Is anyone still buying wolverine

[wolf1023]

I was just wondering if anyone else was considering nothing has happend for like 4 issues. I pretty much hate the story now but I caint stop looking, you know like a train wreck...I wish some one would die already( in the comic I mean)

[Elijya]

Apparently lots of people given the sales figures. I dropped the book, oh, I dunno, 6 years ago?

[wolf1023]

yea I am not that old I picked it up about 3 years ago then read up on some essentials, the old stuff is much cooler very cloak and daggerish.

[Zoken]

Cancel the Canuk Cuisinart!

[spideyboy_1111]

i still have it, but im about to drop it and wolverine origins... wolverine origins just is trail after trail and its just kinda like the reader is reading it blindedly

[PhotoJones]

Loeb's Wolverine arc has been really enjoyable, in my opinion. It's more of a mind**** and lesson in genetics then it is high octane action. I like where he's going and can't wait for the final payoff.

[shapeshifter]

so is his life still shrouded in mystery? if so reading that book has got to be like watching lost. questions piled upon questions with no satisfactory answers....ever.

[PhotoJones]

so is his life still shrouded in mystery? if so reading that book has got to be like watching lost. questions piled upon questions with no satisfactory answers....ever.

No, we actually have been getting answers, and not just about Wolverine, either. Loeb did a short interview recently about his final issue, and promised everything would be answered.

[shapeshifter]

No, we actually have been getting answers, and not just about Wolverine, either. Loeb did a short interview recently about his final issue, and promised everything would be answered.

thats good anyway.
i liked origin, but it left me with more questions. i'm glad to hear that some of the loose ends will be tied up. being shrouded in mystery is great for a while, but i feel that for a character to really evolve you need to know more about their past. does that make sense?

[PhotoJones]

thats good anyway.
i liked origin, but it left me with more questions. i'm glad to hear that some of the loose ends will be tied up. being shrouded in mystery is great for a while, but i feel that for a character to really evolve you need to know more about their past. does that make sense?

You stopped making sense when you said, "i liked origin".

[shapeshifter]

You stopped making sense when you said, "i liked origin".

may i at least try to explain?
I tend to follow artists. blame the day job. if a book has good artwork i will read it. I really liked the artwork in origin. the story might have been a piece of ****, but its a piece of **** that i have some affection for.

[PhotoJones]

may i at least try to explain?
I tend to follow artists. blame the day job. if a book has good artwork i will read it. I really liked the artwork in origin. the story might have been a piece of ****, but its a piece of **** that i have some affection for.

Then you should say, "Origin was good looking pile of ****," instead of "I liked Origin."

[shapeshifter]

Then you should say, "Origin was good looking pile of ****," instead of "I liked Origin."

fair enough.

[PhotoJones]

Rule #1: Don't buy bad comics.

[Darthphere]

Ok, are we talking about Origin by Jenkins and whichever Kubert brother it was or Wolverine: Origins? Clarification is a right of all sentient beings.

[wolf1023]

I liked origin, I dont think it was a pile of **** we arnt talking about the comic now are we becaus I dont know since there are 2 titles with that name.

[shapeshifter]

Rule #1: Don't buy bad comics.

but what denotes a bad comic? its like trying to get 3 people to agree on one pizza topping. chances are everone likes something different

Ok, are we talking about Origin by Jenkins and whichever Kubert brother it was or Wolverine: Origins? Clarification is a right of all sentient beings.

http://wrak.pl/okladki/origin_tpb.jpg

[PhotoJones]

but what denotes a bad comic? its like trying to get 3 people to agree on one pizza topping. chances are everone likes something different

There are some things that are factually accepted as being bad.

[shapeshifter]

There are some things that are factually accepted as being bad.

example?

[Darthphere]

PJ doesn't like Origin?

[shapeshifter]

guess not.

[wolf1023]

origin by jenkins is not one of them, that was one of the best storys I have read with wolverine as the main charater.

[PhotoJones]

example?

Wolverine: Origins, Sins Past, White Tiger, Clone Saga, Blade....

PJ doesn't like Origin?

No, he doesn't.

[Darthphere]

Why not?

[shapeshifter]

Wolverine: Origins, Sins Past, White Tiger, Clone Saga, Blade....


disapointing yes. bad, up to the reader i guess

[PhotoJones]

Why not?

I just...didn't. I don't like the idea of knowing where Logan came from and seeing him as a child just doesn't sit right with me somehow.

[Darthphere]

Nvm

[wolf1023]

I think the resone you dont like it is the same reson I like it.

[Darthphere]

I just...didn't. I don't like the idea of knowing where Logan came from and seeing him as a child just doesn't sit right with me somehow.

Sounds like you need to see someone about that.:csad:

[PhotoJones]

Sounds like you need to see someone about that.:csad:

Not really. And Tamora Pierce wrote the last mini, not Lea Hernandez.

[Darthphere]

Not really. And Tamora Pierce wrote the last mini, not Lea Hernandez.

Ok?:huh:

[Eros]

wolverines a top selling book, even top 10.

[PhotoJones]

Ok?:huh:

Tamora wrote the last White Tiger mini, not Lea. You know, before you changed your post to say "Nvm". :o

[Darthphere]

Tamora wrote the last White Tiger mini, not Lea. You know, before you changed your post to say "Nvm". :o

I don't know what you're talking about crazy man.:o

[PhotoJones]

I don't know what you're talking about crazy man.:o

That's easy to say when you've editted your post to try and save face.

[Darthphere]

That's easy to say when you've editted your post to try and save face.

I edited nothing.:o

[PhotoJones]

I edited nothing.:o

Yeah, ok.

[shapeshifter]

okay boys don't make me turn this car around and go home

[TheCorpulent1]

That's easy to say when you've editted your post to try and save face.
That's why you always quote, PJ. Especially with Phere.

[Darthphere]

That's why you always quote, PJ. Especially with Phere.

Corp nose, Corp nose. Learn from him.:o

[PhotoJones]

That's why you always quote, PJ. Especially with Phere.

True. I don't think I've seen another poster here on the Hype to not stand behind his statements like Darth does.

[Darthphere]

True. I don't think I've seen another poster here on the Hype to not stand behind his statements like Darth does.

It's what makes me special. My mommy told me.:csad:

[PhotoJones]

It's what makes me special. My mommy told me.:csad:

Ruining another's good reputation by sheer association, are we?

[Kitsune]

Okay, back on topic... I picked up Enemy of the State, and stopped after that.

[Darthphere]

Ruining another's good reputation by sheer association, are we?

My mom is dead *******.

Okay, back on topic... I picked up Enemy of the State, and stopped after that.

We are on topic.

[PhotoJones]

My mom is dead *******.

I'd have killed myself, too.

[Darthphere]

Dude, that's ****ed up man. Seriously.

[Kitsune]

My mom is dead *******.



We are on topic.

So how about those Mets?

[PhotoJones]

Dude, that's ****ed up man. Seriously.

Considering I'll never know for certain if your mom is really dead, I don't see how it's ****ed up. If you don't want people talking about your family, dead or otherwise, don't put it out there.

[Darthphere]

So you just want to be a giant ******* then?

[TheCorpulent1]

You're entering into pot and kettle territory there, Phere. ;)
Okay, back on topic... I picked up Enemy of the State, and stopped after that.
Because Enemy of the State sucked or because you thought the team following Millar and Romita would?

[Darthphere]

You're entering into pot and kettle territory there, Phere. ;)

I can smell my own people.

[PhotoJones]

So you just want to be a giant ******* then?

If your mother was really dead, you'd have to be a "special" person to spread the word on a message board for comics. So, in that regard, your mother was right. You are "special".

Now, on the off chance that your mother is in fact dead, then I'm sorry. Death is a ***** of a thing.

[Kitsune]

You're entering into pot and kettle territory there, Phere. ;)

Because Enemy of the State sucked or because you thought the team following Millar and Romita would?

I thought it was okay, I liked the plot idea... I'm not really into Wolverine by himself. I prefer him interacting with a team. I was interested in the whole Agent of Shield thing. I like Nick Fury.

[TheCorpulent1]

I quit Enemy of the State after a few issues because it became apparent to me that it was basically Millar's "What If Wolverine Turned Bad and Was, Like, Totally Awesome and Kicked Everyone's Ass zomg lolz!!!!111"

[PhotoJones]

I quit Enemy of the State after a few issues because it became apparent to me that it was basically Millar's "What If Wolverine Turned Bad and Was, Like, Totally Awesome and Kicked Everyone's Ass zomg lolz!!!!111"

Ha! I don't think there's any "basically" to it. I think that's exactly what Millar was trying to do.

[TheCorpulent1]

With all those exclamation points and ones just like that, too.

[PhotoJones]

With all those exclamation points and ones just like that, too.

Exactly. I saw his original pitch to Marvel, and it began with began with "OMG guys, ur not gonna beleev this 1!!!1!!".

[shapeshifter]

watching a friendly debate between you guys is great. nothing is off limits or to ****ed up to post.

[Darthphere]

Did Bendis say Roflcopter?

[deemar325]

Fellas,


I haven't been reading Wolverine, so what's the big deal with Loeb's run?

[Eros]

Fellas,


I haven't been reading Wolverine, so what's the big deal with Loeb's run?


Its a good run.

[deemar325]

Details.

All I know is Logan is supposed to be a 'dog/wolf' but for real or whatever.

[PhotoJones]

Fellas,


I haven't been reading Wolverine, so what's the big deal with Loeb's run?

T'Challa and Storm call Wolverine to Wakanda upon the discovery of some new fossils. It turns out that some people may have evolved from canines as opposed to primates. The implication is that Logan, along with Wild Child, Sabretooth, Thornn and the rest of the wolf-like mutants could be evidence of this. Logan's also having dreams about wolf-men and ancient Rome that he's not been able to decipher yet. Also, we learn that Sabretooth was present at the time of Logan's Weapon X experiments and that a third person was there by the name of Romulus. Romulus, if you didn't know was one half of the twin duo who built Rome after being raised by a mother wolf.

[Blaktin America]

And they killed off the elephant people. Damn shame.

[shapeshifter]

T'Challa and Storm call Wolverine to Wakanda upon the discovery of some new fossils. It turns out that some people may have evolved from canines as opposed to primates. The implication is that Logan, along with Wild Child, Sabretooth, Thornn and the rest of the wolf-like mutants could be evidence of this. Logan's also having dreams about wolf-men and ancient Rome that he's not been able to decipher yet. Also, we learn that Sabretooth was present at the time of Logan's Weapon X experiments and that a third person was there by the name of Romulus. Romulus, if you didn't know was one half of the twin duo who built Rome after being raised by a mother wolf.

is this all considered cannon? where does his mutation fit in, or are we expected to believe that all canine decendents have abilites that mirror mutations?

[PhotoJones]

is this all considered cannon? where does his mutation fit in, or are we expected to believe that all canine decendents have abilites that mirror mutations?

Yes, it's all cannon. And as far as we know, canine-sapiens are capable of having the mutant gene just like homosapiens.

[deemar325]

T'Challa and Storm call Wolverine to Wakanda upon the discovery of some new fossils. It turns out that some people may have evolved from canines as opposed to primates. The implication is that Logan, along with Wild Child, Sabretooth, Thornn and the rest of the wolf-like mutants could be evidence of this. Logan's also having dreams about wolf-men and ancient Rome that he's not been able to decipher yet. Also, we learn that Sabretooth was present at the time of Logan's Weapon X experiments and that a third person was there by the name of Romulus. Romulus, if you didn't know was one half of the twin duo who built Rome after being raised by a mother wolf.


Your such a helpful pal. :word:

Ok so now Wolverine is officially or soon to be a damn canine? What the hell is wrong with Marvel? It's bad enough this character is a quagmire of b.s. back history and origins now he's Lassie, great.:dry:

[PhotoJones]

Your such a helpful pal. :word:

Ok so now Wolverine is officially or soon to be a damn canine? What the hell is wrong with Marvel? It's bad enough this character is a quagmire of b.s. back history and origins now he's Lassie, great.:dry:

Yeah, a lot people are not liking this run.

[Blaktin America]

The bionic dog

[Darthphere]

Does Wolverine bring the newspaper in?

[shapeshifter]

Does Wolverine bring the newspaper in?

yup.
then he spreads it out on the floor and relives himself

[deemar325]

"I'm the best theres is at what I do, and what I do is sniff asses."

[shapeshifter]

so from now on when he does something bad will cyclops roll up a newspaper and swat him on the butt?

[deemar325]

lol.

[TheCorpulent1]

T'Challa and Storm call Wolverine to Wakanda upon the discovery of some new fossils. It turns out that some people may have evolved from canines as opposed to primates. The implication is that Logan, along with Wild Child, Sabretooth, Thornn and the rest of the wolf-like mutants could be evidence of this. Logan's also having dreams about wolf-men and ancient Rome that he's not been able to decipher yet. Also, we learn that Sabretooth was present at the time of Logan's Weapon X experiments and that a third person was there by the name of Romulus. Romulus, if you didn't know was one half of the twin duo who built Rome after being raised by a mother wolf.
That is... astoundingly retarded. Half of those guys are patterned on big cats, for Christ's sake. :confused:

[PhotoJones]

That is... astoundingly retarded. Half of those guys are patterned on big cats, for Christ's sake. :confused:

I swear to you, it's actually an entertaining read. I think Loeb's penchant for characterization takes over for the wacky story.

[deemar325]

That is... astoundingly retarded. Half of those guys are patterned on big cats, for Christ's sake. :confused:


Agree, I think Loeb is scrapping the bottom of the barrel with this story.

I mean whats left to write about Wolverine? He's been a miner, sailor, bouncer, CIA/FBI/Department H agent, he's been in WWII,Vietnam, most likely Korea and was active during the coldwar, he was a samuri, a bar owner, a husband, a father, has/had amnesia, been to space, screwed half the females of the Marvel U, been a horseman of Apocalypse, been physically injured in every single was the f--ker been vaporized and regenerated from a drop of blood!

Really what's left? I know he's really a evolved wolf!! :whatever:

[Snikt 6]

Heck yes. As overused as Logan may be, he is still a great character. I am much more satisfied with what has been happening in Wolverine (hey, at least it is entertaining) than with Origins (bad writing + bad art = bad comic).

[deemar325]

Maybe Loeb's been watching to much Van Helsing.

[Zoken]

*Tackle-hugs Deemar* DUDE! You've been gone.

[deemar325]

Wassup Z!

Just been outta the loop man.

[Zoken]

Well, I'll let you in on a secret... Wolverine is still vastly over rated.

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Yes, I still read Wolverine. No, I'm not thrilled with anythin' of his that's come out in the last two years. Very few writers that can do him right, an' none of 'em have been on the books.

[deemar325]

Dub25th I feel bad for ya pal.

Maybe that skrull stuff will go in your favor?

[deemar325]

Well, I'll let you in on a secret... Wolverine is still vastly over rated.


So not much changed.

[Snikt 6]

Well, I'll let you in on a secret... Wolverine is still vastly over rated.

Nah, just overused.....

[JewishHobbit]

I'm currently passing on both Wolverine books. I liked Origins at first, but it started getting old around 6 or 7 issues in. I keep trying to go back, but I just get bored. And the horrible chronological issues with it against the rest of the marvel universe is just a major turn off for me. Oh, and the art sucks in my opinion. I don't like artists who make people look like their eyes are about to pop out of their skulls.

As for the main Wolverine Title, I stopped reading it shortly before his original series ended. I came back for the Return of the Native story through Enemy of the State, but stuff after that kinda got me bored. I read the Civil War tie ins hit and miss, but Ramos' art killed me and I couldn't enjoy it. I liked the art on Loeb's first issue but the story wasn't strong enough to keep me, and though I keep trying to buy it, other comics come first. I was annoyed at seeing Feral and Thornn again, since they were depowered. Has that flaw been addressed yet?

Overall, I think Wolverine's overexposure over the past 5 to 10 years (give or take) has really turned me off on the character. I don't mind him in a team book, but I don't care enough about him anymore to buy one of his own for subpar storylines, let alone 2.

[wolf1023]

eh so far in his current title, its not so much the evolution of a wolfman thing that bothers me its that every issue promises answers and they are never answered and I get left with bigger and bigger clif hangers which piss me off...I dont care much about his overexposure for the past few years. He wouldnt be overexposed if he wasent liked.

[TheCorpulent1]

So Wolverine has turned into Lost?

[shapeshifter]

So Wolverine has turned into Lost?

without evangeline lilly to sex the place up.
http://www.mathies.com/blog/evangeline_lilly1.jpg
i put her in here because she makes anything better

[JewishHobbit]

That doesn't look a thing like her. I don't like it when hot chicks get all glammored up or whatever and they don't even look like themselves anymore. Blah!

[TheCorpulent1]

Doesn't really matter who she looks like there. That ass makes that pic totally justified.

[ImrtlLimpWrist]

'Wolverine: Origins' just plain sucks. 'Wolverine' I keep buying even though the current storyline does suck as well. 'Enemy Of The State' and 'Agent of Shield' were the best in recent years.

I love the character and keep hoping things get better.

[kguillou]

I have a strange feeling that we're not even gonna get an answer to the meaning behind wolverine's dreams in the next issue. I think its just gonna focus on Sabertooth's death, which btw i am VERY curious to see given the fact that he heals just like wolverine...?

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Loeb's stories always give answers in their final parts. How good those will be, though, hard to say.

[shapeshifter]

That doesn't look a thing like her. I don't like it when hot chicks get all glammored up or whatever and they don't even look like themselves anymore. Blah!

http://www.buddytv.com/articles/lost/images/evangeline_lilly.jpg
there, better?

[wolf1023]

:woot: I like both

[shapeshifter]

:woot: I like both

me too. she could probably wear a hefty bag and still manage to look hot

[wolf1023]

or just look like she is into a little SNM

[deemar325]

without evangeline lilly to sex the place up.
http://www.mathies.com/blog/evangeline_lilly1.jpg
i put her in here because she makes anything better

She looks damn good in this pic!


Lucky effin' Hobbit! :cmad:

[PhotoJones]

I still read Wolverine. ;)

And with the news of Jason Aaron and Ron Garney coming onto the title, I'll keep reading. :up:

http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/Aaron/wolverine61page6.jpg

[TheCorpulent1]

Goddamnit, Garney's going to Wolverine? What a waste. :(

[PhotoJones]

Are you kidding me? Aaron is probably the best writer in comics, right now.

[TheCorpulent1]

Wolverine is still not appealing to me, though. Maybe if I still weren't reading X-Men, I'd consider it. But given how good the X-Men comics are looking and the sheer Wolverine overload that I get from reading about him in more than two or three comics at a time, I can't buy his series.

[PhotoJones]

That's understandable. Still, Aaron and Garney doing any book is something I'll buy. :up:

[TheCorpulent1]

I'll probably look longingly at each issue in the shop for a while.

[PhotoJones]

I'm in the same boat with Ghost Rider. According to his interview with Newsamara, he's the new ongoing writer. I couldn't care less about GR, but I'm tempted. :(

[TheCorpulent1]

Unless GR makes some mention of Dan Ketch and what the **** happened to him, I'm staying away from it.

[PhotoJones]

I doubt that's coming anytime soon. Marvel's hellbent on Blaze. He's alright, but the GR I grew up with is Ketch.

[TheCorpulent1]

Same here.