7.02 - Kara - Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[The Incredible Hulk]

I liked Laura. I thought she did very well. I don't get some of the complaints about her acting though. Not sure what people we're expecting from her performance but I enjoyed her scenes with Tom. The good thing about having Kara on the show is that (hopefully) it will lead to more mythology based episodes and that's always a plus.
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I dont get the critiques either. Its like people are assuming because she's blonde and attractive that she's some talentless bimbo who got pulled off of MTV, but she's been acting for a while up in Canada apparently.

I never listen to acting critiques anyway. Most people dont know the difference between a bad actor and someone getting bad direction. Not that either of those were an issue tonight. That's just like the default criticism when someone doesnt like something and they want to ***** about it...

[SamuraiSon6]

i noticed it was different, but it didnt bother me....^^^i guess like eddie said, i accept it as an accent.....

[Eddie Brock]

You mean the "timing"? Thats true. Timing would be off when one actor is great and the other one is terrible.

Which actor is which? :)
But...Welling and Kreuk didn't have a scene together...?

:huh:

[bootspark]

But...Welling and Kreuk didn't have a scene together...?

:huh:

BURN!!! hahahahah :)

[Eddie Brock]

Anyway...I did notice that Rosenbaum seemed off.

Which is another large part of my reason to give Smallville a deadline...Lex was one of the very few things WORTH watching last Season. If that aspect is gone...then so am I.

As I said, I'll give it time.

[youknowwho_77]

KalKai you always have sweet gifs, what do you use to make them?

[bootspark]

Suprisingly, Welling has become the BEST actor on the show.

[Cmill216]

KalKai you always have sweet gifs, what do you use to make them?

Sweet Gif Maker 2007. :p

Welcome to the Hype, ykw77.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Suprisingly, Welling has become the BEST actor on the show.

Its his show that was bound to happen

[Eddie Brock]

Suprisingly, Welling has become the BEST actor on the show.
That's a tough call...between Welling and Rosenbaum.

Although - from the looks of it - the call might not be so tough this year. :csad:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

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[youknowwho_77]

Thanks cmill216!

[AgentPat]

But...Welling and Kreuk didn't have a scene together...?

:huh:Clark and Kara, not Clark and Lana.

BTW, Kreuk was off tonight too. I mentioned this yesterday in a spoiler tag - the waving of the gun as Lana was talking to Lex was just baaaaad. If she was playing deranged - like Rosenbaum did when Lex was pointing the gun at Lionel in Shattered - it would work, but not serious. Welling committed the same faux pas in Transference. The directors should catch that; it's poor acting technique because the dialog comes off looking and sounding rehearsed.

[BenReilly]

Why cant we get more mythology based episodes WITHOUT Kara being on the show? The show doesnt need Kara for Clark to learn about his past, present, and FUTURE. Thats what Jor-El and the Fortress is for.

We don't need Kara on the show for mythology based episodes but she is here, so they should make the most of it. Having a family member of Clark's, who actually grew up on Krypton and has first hand knowledge and experience of his home world, could make for some interesting stories.

[The Incredible Hulk]

I totally missed the Kandor reference. When was it? Is it in the crystal?

[StorminNorman]

Clark and Kara, not Clark and Lana.

BTW, Kreuk was off tonight too. I mentioned this yesterday in a spoiler tag - the waving of the gun as Lana was talking to Lex was just baaaaad. If she was playing deranged - like Rosenbaum did when Lex was pointing the gun at Lionel in Shattered - it would work, but not serious. Welling committed the same faux pas in Transference. The directors should catch that; it's poor acting technique because the dialog comes off looking and sounding rehearsed.

But...I think that was the point. Lana had basically planned the two meeting each other, wouldn't she know exactly what to say? It wasn't some spontaneous moment.

[Eddie Brock]

Clark and Kara, not Clark and Lana.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand that's the joke. :dry:

I'll take Misinterpreted Sarcasm for $600, Alex. :dry:

[AgentPat]

I totally missed the Kandor reference. When was it? Is it in the crystal?I believe she mentioned it when she was talking to Clark in the living room.

[StorminNorman]

I totally missed the Kandor reference. When was it? Is it in the crystal?

Kara mentioned how she would leave Kandor to visit Lara.

I am slightly (or more so) miffed at the fact that apparently the explosion of Krpyton was not apparent to everyone.

[youknowwho_77]

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What was that all about?

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I believe she mentioned it when she was talking to Clark in the living room.

I think it was something like how she used to pretty much run away from Kandor & go hang with Lara or something like that

[StorminNorman]

Suprisingly, Welling has become the BEST actor on the show.

Welling is not even on the same level with Rosenbaum - not close, but when you take away Anette O'Toole,John Glover's MIA and keep Justin Hartley away, the rest of the cast is hardly impressive. Rosenbaum is the only good actor on the show right now.

[Zing79]

It's rare, but this ep just seemed really off to me. Wasn't feeling a whole heck of a lot of it.

The one thing I did notice, (and that people should watch for): did Welling's acting ever pull you out of a scene? Did Laura's? Watching Laura is like watching season 1 Welling. And it really drives home the point of how far Welling's really come as an actor.

I didn't truly realize it till this very episode.

[ariellem]

Grant Gabriel is annoying the hell out of me already.

Yeah, he's pretty awful - the character, the lines, the actor... Can't stand him.

[Eddie Brock]

That's all for me on this episode. I've said my piece, and I'm praying that it won't come to the extremes that I'm preparing for.

But that's out of my hands.

[AgentPat]

But...I think that was the point. Lana had basically planned the two meeting each other, wouldn't she know exactly what to say? It wasn't some spontaneous moment.I disagree. Waving the prop while delivering dialog is poor technique. Ask any actor. And it was supposed to be a GUN. Hold it on the side gangster style if you want, but don't wave it unless your character is psycho, and Kreuk wasn't playing Lana psycho in that scene.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand that's the joke. :dry:

I'll take Misinterpreted Sarcasm for $600, Alex. :dry:Welling and Kreuk have very good timing and palpable chemistry. Sarcasm is funny when there's some truth to it. :dry:

[Serene]

you just have to ask yourself one thing. What would your reaction be if it was clark in those pics?:cwink: now why is it different because its kara?

I believe you answered your own question. :dry:

I got a big kick out quite a few scenes in this episode. Laura's first outing was a bit shaky - a lot in some parts, and notsobad in others. I did think that her scenes with Clark showed some nice cousinly chemistry though, so I'm giving her a little slack for just starting out. It did give me pangs to see Kara do the classic earth-hover shot before Clark's ever gotten the chance to. Oh, SV...just, why? But I am really grateful that she seems to clearly not be more powerful (or wise) than Clark. In fact, it was quite obvious who the mentor is in this relationship. She may fly, but she's very much a teenager in her emotional development. So, I'm good with it.

Laura is gorgeous, and perfectly cast, IMO.

Even though I'd already seen it, I really liked the Lex and Lana scene. His obsession with Kara has replaced his 'love' for Lana. His grand and sincere apology is triggered only by his misconception that he was somehow saved by this extraordinary being. Tying up the loose Lana end is part of his moving on to the next obession - Kara. I also think that Lex knows Lana well enough to know that she wasn't going to pull that trigger. She probably thought she could go through with it - hate and anger are incredibly strong motivators - bit I'm sincerely glad they didn't go there. Lana may be darker this season, but let's not make her an murderer, kthx.

It seems so obvious that they've just told Tom to completely run with it in terms of being Superman without the suit now. At least that's how it seems to me. His whole demeanor, his look (i.e. BRICKHOUSE), his deliveries... all seem intentionally Superman driven now. I just can't get enough of it. Clark's curiosity about his mother and his reaction to hearing that he was her miracle baby just made me melt.

Lois and Chloe... Holeee shizinit. Everyone put on your seatbelts - especially Lois fans, it's going to be a bumpy ride! The Lois hate is going to be out of control after this episode in *cough* certain SV forums. There wasn't even enough Lana to deflect some of it. ;) I like it. I like that SV is taking that risk and pushing the edges a bit with those two characters. The poor put-upon Chloe factor will be off the hook, but as much as I've griped about SuperChloe, I look forward to seeing her in this new dynamic of not being the know-all, do-all character. I bet Allison is probably enjoying the chance to spread her wings a bit too.

Did you catch Lois' line? "I'll never be Chloe Sullivan." I LMAO. Lois tried to help her cuz out, several times even. Aside from mocking Lois about her story, what did Chloe do to support her cuz? Oh yeah.. nothing. I'm not sure how unfair I think Lois' getting that job really is for Chloe. This is grown-up working land, and while I know very little about the field of newspaper journalism, I would imagine it's an extremely competitive business. Lois has been putting in her time at the Inquisitor, not an impressive bigshot paper perhaps, but it is experience. For one paper to hire a reporter away from another paper sounds pretty routine to me. I understand Chloe's shock, but I also hope that she's at least a little happy for her cousin on some level (really deep down... really).

The new editor guy was effective enough for what he's supposed to be - demanding, goal-driven young upstart. He was a bit on overdrive, but hopefully they'll tone that down a bit as we get to know him better.

I'm sure this episode will be shredded for all the technical incongruities (per usual) but we're 7 seasons in people, if you haven't adjusted your brains to accepting some of this as par for the course by now, then why are you still watching?

The trailer for next week is everything I wanted to see, and yet it's also filling me with dread. I don't want to get pessimistic yet, but it sounds like the secret-keeping isn't over for Clark and Lana - they've just traded roles. *sigh*

I'm still totally pumped for the season. I'm such a fangirl it's ridiculous. :p

[OobeDoobBenubi]

With Smallville prepare for the worst & hope for the best.

[StorminNorman]

This episode shocked me.

I expected to hate it - but I actually enjoyed it.

And I like the new paper editor!?!

And I dont despise Kara!?!

[ariellem]

do a striptease? :woot:

Please, no - not with Clark dancing the way he did in that barn party, anyway. Or did you mean Jimmy doing a striptease (for Chloe, and Kara happens to see it)?

[mellyM]

I think it was something like how she used to pretty much run away from Kandor & go hang with Lara or something like that
Oooh, she mumbled quite a bit, or ate her words?, so I need to go back and rewatch it so I can hear more about Krypton. I liked her more than I thought, and I'm sure she'll grow into her role. Its nice to hear about Krypton and I liked how Clark was with her, and really thats all I care about. Welling was a joy to watch as always, I almost felt like everyone else was half asleep, but that could just be me...i've had a long day, lol

[bootspark]

And it really drives home the point of how far Welling's really come as an actor.

Welling IMPROVES every season. IMO, he is a GREAT actor now.

Ive said it many times. Welling is the only actor to me that can play Superman. He has the presence, the acting ability, the look, the emotion.

EVERYTHING.

[StorminNorman]

I disagree. Waving the prop while delivering dialog is poor technique. Ask any actor. And it was supposed to be a GUN. Hold it on the side gangster style if you want, but don't wave it unless your character is psycho, and Kreuk wasn't playing Lana psycho in that scene.


Lana wasn't in her right mind though. She was actually considering killing someone - that is a bit out of character right there.

Trust me, if I thought there was something annoyingly bad with the show - I would be the first to bash it. For example, Kara's speech about not know Krypton was exploding is a stupid, lazy, slap in the face to Superman comics.

Lana waving a gun wasn't.

[The Caped Knight]

Hey Kai can you break out with some awesome gifs of Kara from this episode ?

[bootspark]

It seems so obvious that they've just told Tom to completely run with it in terms of being Superman without the suit now. At least that's how it seems to me. His whole demeanor, his look (i.e. BRICKHOUSE), his deliveries... all seem intentionally Superman driven now.

You think that has to do with the rumors of the JLA movie? ummmm :)

[The Incredible Hulk]

I really didnt think Laura was all that bad. You have to take into account she's playing an actual Kryptonian, so she's going to be a bit "cold" in her delivery at first. Once she realized who Clark was, she played it much more personable...

[Serene]

BTW, Kreuk was off tonight too. I mentioned this yesterday in a spoiler tag - the waving of the gun as Lana was talking to Lex was just baaaaad.

The gun waving was once, I would be surprised that it even made an impact on you, but I also remember Clark making that same type of move.

But I disagree that it was bad. Although I know she's handled guns before, she's not exactly an expert at it. Waving it around while you talk is something I'd expect anyone who was inexperienced might do. I could see me doing that if I held a gun. I'd end up shooting some innocent bystander. Oops! :D

[AgentPat]

did Welling's acting ever pull you out of a scene?Once! And it was HORRIBLE! Ironically, it was in a really good episode too: Duplicity. At the end, Clark, Pete, Jonathan and Martha are in the storm cellar talking about how Clark tried to save Dr. Hamilton, even though he knew that Hamilton could expose Clark. Clark responds (paraphrasing) that he couldn't let him or anybody die, no matter who they are. That line. OMG. It was just.... really bad. Totally pulled me out of the scene.

Did Laura's?Yeah, a few times, but for some reason, it didn't bug me that much. I'm not feeling her character yet, so watching her is like watching an actor perform their lines with no personal impact to me one way or another.

Watching Laura is like watching season 1 Welling.Maybe. I got emotionally attached to Clark's story right from the Pilot though. It helps.

And it really drives home the point of how far Welling's really come as an actor.I've noticed that he's been developing little gestures and quirks for Clark that give his interpretation a unique characterization. Watch Clark give Chloe the hairy eyeball when Lois turns her back after describing the spaceship. Totally Welling there. Very funny. Very natural. :heart:

[Serene]

You think that has to do with the rumors of the JLA movie? ummmm :)

I honestly don't know. It's nice to think so though,, right?

But I'll tell you this, even if Tom doesn't get the JL role, having SV's Clark Kent be in this Superman mode for an entire season definitely will help to make up for it. Consider all that we would have missed out on if he'd gotten cast in SR way back when. Talk about avoiding a trainwreck. :ninja:

(But I still want him to get the role. :D)

[Prison Mike]

I didn't even notice the wave of the gun. I was trying to listen to the conversation.

[AgentPat]

Lana wasn't in her right mind though. She was actually considering killing someone - that is a bit out of character right there.

Trust me, if I thought there was something annoyingly bad with the show - I would be the first to bash it. For example, Kara's speech about not know Krypton was exploding is a stupid, lazy, slap in the face to Superman comics.

Lana waving a gun wasn't.Story is one thing, acting is another.

Look folks, it's okay if it didn't bug you. Honestly, it didn't really "bug" me either. But it's poor acting technique. That's all I was saying. It was just an example; not an episode breaking faux pas. People are quick to say so in so is such a bad actor, that so in so wipes the floors with such and such, but rarely do people actually give a technical reason for their opinion. Y'know, like what they teach you NOT to do in acting classes? That kind of stuff. You can still feel the character and be affected in a positive way by their performance - or not - but technique is technique.

[ariellem]

Hey, nice catch. :up: Too bad they didn't go with the full shield though. :(

Hopefully they'll start with 'S' and widen it until midseason it's a big wide ~S~; then the second half they can start drawing lines around it until we get \S/ at the end of the season.

[Syncos]

The gun waving was once, I would be surprised that it even made an impact on you, but I also remember Clark making that same type of move.

But I disagree that it was bad. Although I know she's handled guns before, she's not exactly an expert at it. Waving it around while you talk is something I'd expect anyone who was inexperienced might do. I could see me doing that if I held a gun. I'd end up shooting some innocent bystander. Oops! :D

I don't get the problem with the gun waving. It wasn't a huge gesture, and it's perfectly logical for someone who's in a position of power (for example holding a gun against an unarmed foe,) to be a little aloof. She held all the cards. No need to be rigid. *shrug* to each their own, I suppose.

As for Laura, I rather liked her in this episode. She had some really strong scenes. Others weren't so great, but everyone misses a beat or two. It happens.

Overall I loved the episode. Pretty strong overall. I hope they don't loose any steam.

[Cmill216]

I didn't even notice the gun waving. I was too busy staring at Kristin's face. :dry:

[ariellem]

anyway.....i loved the moment where clark taught kara how to use superhearing.....very superman, and it was great to see him teaching her, instead of it the other way around!

I really liked the way they did that, too - he was calm, confident, and reassuring, and they had really cool lighting/spinning effects.


She was absolutely stunning. ...especially the red tank top she wore in the barn that really showed off her...

...you know...


...her "Houses of EL"

LOL! Not Karavage, but houses. Love it! Lana's a ranch; Chloe's a split-foyer or split-level - or one of those 1-1/2 Cape Cods that's been bumped up (upper level finished); Lois is a Pleasantville/Imagination Colonial (5, 4, and a door); Kara's a Georgian; Martha's an estate...

[Prison Mike]

LOL! Not Karavage, but houses. Love it! Lana's a ranch; Chloe's a split-foyer or split-level - or one of those 1-1/2 Cape Cods that's been bumped up (upper level finished); Lois is a Pleasantville/Imagination Colonial (5, 4, and a door); Kara's a Georgian; Martha's an estate...

:yay: :woot:

[Showtime]

Really great episode tonight.

*Kara flying above earth and hovering was a great visual, and as she burst back through the atmosphere the sonic boom was a nice touch.
*The rooftop scene where Clark was teaching Kara how to harness the power of superhearing was a nicely done scene.
*Interaction between Lois and the new head honcho at the Daily Planet was done well.

[RakuMon]

Wow. I didn't expect so much complaining. I thought this was a terrific episode and a great follow-up to the premiere.

Is it just me or is this episode moving very very fast

Good. A fast pace means every moment is important.

Two episodes into the season and I can already tell the directing/editing is crisper than ever before. I'm liking what I see so far! :up:

Once! And it was HORRIBLE! Ironically, it was in a really good episode too: Duplicity. At the end, Clark, Pete, Jonathan and Martha are in the storm cellar talking about how Clark tried to save Dr. Hamilton, even though he knew that Hamilton could expose Clark. Clark responds (paraphrasing) that he couldn't let him or anybody die, no matter who they are. That line. OMG. It was just.... really bad. Totally pulled me out of the scene.


The one line Welling's ever given that made me cringe happens to be in my favorite Smallville episode of all time: Rosetta. The final scene, in the cellar after Clark's learned of his Kryptonian heritage. That whole scene between Clark and Jonathan was spectacular, but the line "is this the person I will become?" makes me cringe every time. Fortunately, Jonathan's speech and embrace of his son soon after makes up for it.

I didn't mind Laura's acting. She was dodgy in spots, but nothing too distracting. I wasn't really feeling the new editor, and I too am not really liking the direction they're putting Lex in. I thought Lex felt he had a religious experience and saw an angel. So why's he "looking" for her? :huh:

[SuperDaniel]

Did anybody catch the Superman painting at the Daily Planet? This episode was awesome!

[AgentPat]

Hopefully they'll start with 'S' and widen it until midseason it's a big wide ~S~; then the second half they can start drawing lines around it until we get \S/ at the end of the season.Hah! That would be funny. :up:

I don't get the problem with the gun waving.Okay, I'll explain it again. Please though, this is a very MINOR thing. It's not earth shattering stuff.

One of the things they teach you in acting school is how to handle props realistically. Novice actors tend to read lines with a cadence, and if they're holding something, they'll emphasize points with a downstroke of the hand holding the business, kind of like you would pump your fist in the air to a music beat. Know what I mean? Coaches tell you NOT to do that. It wasn't the "waving" of the gun that caught my eye, it was Kreuk's unconscious gesture to emphasize her lines by "noting" them physically, like she was reading a list of points. It was extremely brief, but an acting coach would have called her on it. Wicked minor stuff, but she did it - and I noticed it. Welling has done the same thing. I'm not picking on Kreuk, honest. Just noting a performance oopsies, that's all.

There are two people that I know who have acting experience and peruse this forum: Thunder Emperor and JcDc. I won't see the latter's posts, but if either would like to comment on the above scene from a technical POV, it would be appreciated. Thanks. :)

[cheungcheung]

grant looks like lois' younger bro...

damn. kristin is still number 3 in the credits. :cmad:

[AgentPat]

damn. kristin is still number 3 in the credits. :cmad:I'm guessing that won't change. That's the credit sequence for S7.

[Cmill216]

You know what this episode needed?

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3194/250pxtinagreercm5.jpg

[AgentPat]

You know what this episode needed?More cowbell!!

:D

[KBX]

I really enjoyed this episode. I think I liked it better than Bizarro...

Got 1 question, the guy who is running the "Secretary of Defense" is he gonna be a guest star throughout the season? Cause it seemed that way....

[Prison Mike]

I really liked this episode so I think it's a tie for me between "Kara" and "Bizarro".

[Prison Mike]

grant looks like lois' younger bro...

damn. kristin is still number 3 in the credits. :cmad:

I was worried that he would look really young next to her, but I was pleasantly surprised that he didn't very much. He had the suspenders thing on so he looked kind of older and they put some makeup on him so he wasn't as pale as usual (compared to other shows like the OC or Hidden Palms).

[Blacklight]

Is Kara going to be in the show next week?

[Cmill216]

Is Kara going to be in the show next week?

Pretty much every week.

[Blacklight]

Pretty much every week.
I hope so. Can't wait to see her in that Zatanna-esque costume.

[NewYorkSpider]

Just finished watching this episode. Is it just me or is the acting really starting to die. I mean I wasn't really into this episode as much as the premiere. Clones? Why? If this keeps up I will wait untill the DVD comes out to watch it.

[SamuraiSon6]

More cowbell!!

:D


my thoughts exactly:woot:

[The Joker_1000]

This episode was great & was just as good as the season premiere, if not better. Laura Vandervoort did an amazing job & Clark is acting even more Superman-ish.

[Mike_D202]

More cowbell!!

:D

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u263/vavajava/cowbell.gif

[RKromwell]

Awesome...loved it from start to finish. That being said, someone should give Lex his balls back. He so should have taken the gun from her, turned around and killed her on the spot. She is already dead so...he can't be charged with it.

[Hush]

That was a flat out amazing epsidoe! Loved every minute of it.

[Damien Rage]

Lana wasn't in her right mind though. She was actually considering killing someone - that is a bit out of character right there.

...out of curiousity...how is it out of character? Her actually "thinking" about it? (considering it) As opposed to self defense?

...because she's killed like what...5 times already the entire series?

[Havok83]

Great episode. I loved it. How old was Clark when he landed in Smallville? I thought he was a baby but he told Kara that she was in suspended animation for 18 years. Speaking of which, its funny how her clothes managed to grow with her

[MJZ]

Here here, great episode for sure. Kara's cool, I am in love already.

Wasn't sure how this new DP editor would be but must say I'm very impressed, looks to be a great addition to the show.

[mellyM]

Great episode. I loved it. How old was Clark when he landed in Smallville? I thought he was a baby but he told Kara that she was in suspended animation for 18 years. Speaking of which, its funny how her clothes managed to grow with her

She was a teenager when she left, so she didn't really grow anymore:) And Clark was about 3 when he landed

[RakuMon]

I don't get all the complaining about the clone. It isn't like the concept of cloning is unheard of in the Smallville-verse. (Emily Dinsmore, anyone?) And it isn't like Lex in the comics doesn't have a fascination with cloning (Bizarro, Conner). So what's the big deal?

In fact, I think it's pretty twisted that Lex would make a clone of the woman he 'loved.' Like Lana said, it's a result of his psychosis, and very much in-character for him to use his Super Soldier program as a cover for cloning his wife. I was hoping that's where the whole fake pregnancy arc was heading and thought the whole Project Ares subplot was out of left field. Now it all makes perfect sense.

[Whiteflag]

Did anyone else think the actor playing the new editor did a very poor job? I found his acting really weak, even plainly bad. He sounded like he was trying too hard and seemed to be yelling all the time. :huh: I don't usually like to comment on the acting because I know all actors have better and worse days, but this time I found his acting really distracting. I couldn't concentrate on what he was saying. I hope he improves. :)

[Showtime]

Here here, great episode for sure. Kara's cool, I am in love already.

Wasn't sure how this new DP editor would be but must say I'm very impressed, looks to be a great addition to the show.

I believe the actor was in OC previously.

[NateGray]

I believe you answered your own question. :dry:

I got a big kick out quite a few scenes in this episode. Laura's first outing was a bit shaky - a lot in some parts, and notsobad in others. I did think that her scenes with Clark showed some nice cousinly chemistry though, so I'm giving her a little slack for just starting out. It did give me pangs to see Kara do the classic earth-hover shot before Clark's ever gotten the chance to. Oh, SV...just, why? But I am really grateful that she seems to clearly not be more powerful (or wise) than Clark. In fact, it was quite obvious who the mentor is in this relationship. She may fly, but she's very much a teenager in her emotional development. So, I'm good with it.

Laura is gorgeous, and perfectly cast, IMO.

Even though I'd already seen it, I really liked the Lex and Lana scene. His obsession with Kara has replaced his 'love' for Lana. His grand and sincere apology is triggered only by his misconception that he was somehow saved by this extraordinary being. Tying up the loose Lana end is part of his moving on to the next obession - Kara. I also think that Lex knows Lana well enough to know that she wasn't going to pull that trigger. She probably thought she could go through with it - hate and anger are incredibly strong motivators - bit I'm sincerely glad they didn't go there. Lana may be darker this season, but let's not make her an murderer, kthx.

It seems so obvious that they've just told Tom to completely run with it in terms of being Superman without the suit now. At least that's how it seems to me. His whole demeanor, his look (i.e. BRICKHOUSE), his deliveries... all seem intentionally Superman driven now. I just can't get enough of it. Clark's curiosity about his mother and his reaction to hearing that he was her miracle baby just made me melt.

Lois and Chloe... Holeee shizinit. Everyone put on your seatbelts - especially Lois fans, it's going to be a bumpy ride! The Lois hate is going to be out of control after this episode in *cough* certain SV forums. There wasn't even enough Lana to deflect some of it. ;) I like it. I like that SV is taking that risk and pushing the edges a bit with those two characters. The poor put-upon Chloe factor will be off the hook, but as much as I've griped about SuperChloe, I look forward to seeing her in this new dynamic of not being the know-all, do-all character. I bet Allison is probably enjoying the chance to spread her wings a bit too.

Did you catch Lois' line? "I'll never be Chloe Sullivan." I LMAO. Lois tried to help her cuz out, several times even. Aside from mocking Lois about her story, what did Chloe do to support her cuz? Oh yeah.. nothing. I'm not sure how unfair I think Lois' getting that job really is for Chloe. This is grown-up working land, and while I know very little about the field of newspaper journalism, I would imagine it's an extremely competitive business. Lois has been putting in her time at the Inquisitor, not an impressive bigshot paper perhaps, but it is experience. For one paper to hire a reporter away from another paper sounds pretty routine to me. I understand Chloe's shock, but I also hope that she's at least a little happy for her cousin on some level (really deep down... really).

The new editor guy was effective enough for what he's supposed to be - demanding, goal-driven young upstart. He was a bit on overdrive, but hopefully they'll tone that down a bit as we get to know him better.

I'm sure this episode will be shredded for all the technical incongruities (per usual) but we're 7 seasons in people, if you haven't adjusted your brains to accepting some of this as par for the course by now, then why are you still watching?

The trailer for next week is everything I wanted to see, and yet it's also filling me with dread. I don't want to get pessimistic yet, but it sounds like the secret-keeping isn't over for Clark and Lana - they've just traded roles. *sigh*

I'm still totally pumped for the season. I'm such a fangirl it's ridiculous. :p

Great post and I am as anxious for this season as you are everything looks great for this season IMO.

[rumpuso]

"Bizarro" and "Kara" have really reinvigorated my appreciation for this show. I really like what I'm seeing so far with Clark and with the new cast additions. Clark just exudes authority in last night's episode and in "Bizarro" too. Tom is doing a fabulous job showing Clark's growth in all his subtle facial expressions and actions. Also, I honestly loved Kara, and thought LV did a fantastic job at making her character someone I care about immediately. I agree with Carol above in that I noticed the over-the-top behavior of the new editor; but I actually liked it and thought it fit in very nicely with his position. He reminded me of a younger, over-the-top, movie version of Perry White. And I like that he called Chloe out on her laziness and immediately recognized the talent behind Lois' writing. The scene between Lex and Lana was suspenseful, imo. When Lex was replaying Lana's voice tape over and over on the airplane, I realized that this guy is far from "saved". He's one crazy looney bin and I was afraid for Lana. All in all, I'm entertained once again by Smallville. I missed this feeling last season.

One question ... someone a couple pages back mentioned that one of the good points of last night's episode was the mention of Ben Hubbard. I'm not a comic book reader and don't know who that is. Would someone fill me in on who Ben Hubbard is?

[DvilDog]

spectacular episode as upset as I was about the hover scene with Kara I got over it. It honestly seems to me that they are getting a really good budget this year. Hopefully that wont change. Someone help me out. have they ever used a cgi clark like they did last night when Kara threw him through the forest?

[Serene]

I believe the actor was in OC previously.

I don't know about the OC, but he was in Hidden Palms.

[DvilDog]

"Bizarro" and "Kara" have really reinvigorated my appreciation for this show. I really like what I'm seeing so far with Clark and with the new cast additions. Clark just exudes authority in last night's episode and in "Bizarro" too. Tom is doing a fabulous job showing Clark's growth in all his subtle facial expressions and actions. Also, I honestly loved Kara, and thought LV did a fantastic job at making her character someone I care about immediately. I agree with Carol above in that I noticed the over-the-top behavior of the new editor; but I actually liked it and thought it fit in very nicely with his position. He reminded me of a younger, over-the-top, movie version of Perry White. And I like that he called Chloe out on her laziness and immediately recognized the talent behind Lois' writing. The scene between Lex and Lana was suspenseful, imo. When Lex was replaying Lana's voice tape over and over on the airplane, I realized that this guy is far from "saved". He's one crazy looney bin and I was afraid for Lana. All in all, I'm entertained once again by Smallville. I missed this feeling last season.

One question ... someone a couple pages back mentioned that one of the good points of last night's episode was the mention of Ben Hubbard. I'm not a comic book reader and don't know who that is. Would someone fill me in on who Ben Hubbard is?

Ben Hubbard is a good friend of the kents. Also their next door neighbor. I am not sure if he has been in the comics (maybe someone can help me on that one) but he has been in or mentioned in one or 2 of the reeves superman movies and was mentioned in Superman Returns, even though they actually casted a guy to play him and he had a few scenes before the were cut to make the movie shorter

[kane9321]

what, kara evil..no way. Why does jor-el think this?

lana clone..eh whatever:whatever:

I love the "training" on the roof

Lois..if an alien spaceship is glowing....dont touch it!

[04nbod]

spectacular episode as upset as I was about the hover scene with Kara I got over it.

Why were you upset?

what, kara evil..no way. Why does jor-el think this?


family secrets, rivalries, mistrust.

[kane9321]

oh yeah one more thing....why cant clark fly again?:)

[OobeDoobBenubi]

oh yeah one more thing....why cant clark fly again?:)

Flying looks good on a female :oldrazz:

[DvilDog]

Why were you upset?




would rather it have been clark because a shot like that is so iconic. but it was cool so thats why i got over it

[04nbod]

would rather it have been clark because a shot like that is so iconic. but it was cool so thats why i got over it

clark had one in space in crusade so it kind of evens out.

[DvilDog]

clark had one in space in crusade so it kind of evens out.

true

[OobeDoobBenubi]

clark had one in space in crusade so it kind of evens out.

That was Kal-El & not Clark & that rocket scene in space does not count because he was not actually flying

[Kaboom]

this was one of the best episodes of smallville i have seen in a while, especially for an episode thats not a season premiere or season finale.

and yes kara=evil....sort of.

the current condition of supergirl in the comics was the daughter of zor-el sent to earth to kill kal-el. obv she gets over that eventially.

[04nbod]

That was Kal-El & not Clark & that rocket scene in space does not count because he was not actually flying

i said 'kind of' :oldrazz:

[amazingfantasy15]

I liked most of the episode, the Lex and Lana stuff I could've done without, oh how I wished Lex shot Lana in the head. I want her out of the series so much, she brings every episode down and clones really, that's how creatively bankrupt the producers are? Would much rather see the family relationship between Kara and Clark explored more, since I know it will take a back seat to the on again, off again relationship between Lana and Clark.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

When all is said & done with Smallville & its cancelled you have to admit the Seasons when edited right & all of the unncessary stuff is taken out & select deleted scenes are put back in this show would make amazing 2 to 3 hour movies.

Season 1:Give it its own movie name

Season 2:Give it its own movie name

Season 3:Give it its own movie name

Season 4:Give it its own movie name

Season 5:Give it its own movie name

Season 6:Give it its own movie name

Season 7:Give it its own movie name

[04nbod]

good
- i liked the editor. i thought the actor acted well. I guess because i have no love for chloe it didn't bother me she was insulted
- lois gets a desk!
- kara although the actress wasn't great i can live with it and hope she gets better.
- visual effects- WOW. Kara in space :eek:
- clark and kara physically fighting- its tradition. Right now its 1-1 but i suspect there will be more punches later in the season
- the humour- kara randomly picking up children :D
- Tom! continues to act everyone out of the park!
- reference to zod!
- quote 'this yellow sun has fried your brain cells!' :D
- fortress :up:

bad
-chloe's cheesy dialogue
- lex without his balls. I just wish lexana was over- its destroying lex
-lack of house of el hugs- i thought she needed one
-lana. don't make kristen do serious, it doesn't work

[OobeDoobBenubi]

After all of the back & fourth with Lex I honestly have a very hard time believing that Smallvilles Lex will one day be known as the worlds best criminal master mind :whatever: Just thinking about what Smallvilles Lex is supposed to become is laugh out loud hilarious I just cant see it. I dont see how any Smallville fan can honestly take Smallvilles Lex seriously as a bad guy. Its getting silly with what they are doing to him. Ah hell it got silly a few seasons ago. But now this ices the cake.

[Tron5000]

Man, am I pissed.

I just got a new 60-inch TV and an HP tower with Windows Media Center so I can record off the cable box straight onto my hard drive. I set it to record "Kara" last night, but when I got home from work and tried to watch it, I realized I had set it to record on the HD channel (which I don't have until next week)! Therefore, I had only a blank screen to watch.

"Kara" was about the only thing that kept me from killing someone during my 14-hour workday yesterday. Imagine my frustration when my recording didn't work. Won't make that mistake again, but I wish I had made it first on a show I didn't really care about.

Oh, well. Hopefully I'll be able to find a mirror somewhere. Crap!

[rumpuso]

Ben Hubbard is a good friend of the kents. Also their next door neighbor. I am not sure if he has been in the comics (maybe someone can help me on that one) but he has been in or mentioned in one or 2 of the reeves superman movies and was mentioned in Superman Returns, even though they actually casted a guy to play him and he had a few scenes before the were cut to make the movie shorter

Thanks for the answer.

[DvilDog]

your welcome

[Prison Mike]

I don't know about the OC, but he was in Hidden Palms.

yeah he was in both OC and Hidden Palms.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

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[amazingfantasy15]

Man, am I pissed.

I just got a new 60-inch TV and an HP tower with Windows Media Center so I can record off the cable box straight onto my hard drive. I set it to record "Kara" last night, but when I got home from work and tried to watch it, I realized I had set it to record on the HD channel (which I don't have until next week)! Therefore, I had only a blank screen to watch.

"Kara" was about the only thing that kept me from killing someone during my 14-hour workday yesterday. Imagine my frustration when my recording didn't work. Won't make that mistake again, but I wish I had made it first on a show I didn't really care about.

Oh, well. Hopefully I'll be able to find a mirror somewhere. Crap!

You might want to try iTunes, the season premiere of Supernatural is on it, maybe CW put Smallville up too.

[TheComicbookKid]

Man, I'm living in Bizarro world. That newspaper editor was horrible. I had to fast forward past all his scenes. The Clark and Kara thing on the rooftop was cool. Not sure about this new "Lex" character. It was better than Bizarro, but still hasn't quite it that great stride yet.

[Tron5000]

You might want to try iTunes, the season premiere of Supernatural is on it, maybe CW put Smallville up too.

Found it. Didn't try iTunes (don't you have to pay for downloads?), but I found it. Thanks for the suggestion.

[cronosred]

Man, I'm living in Bizarro world. That newspaper editor was horrible. I had to fast forward past all his scenes. The Clark and Kara thing on the rooftop was cool. Not sure about this new "Lex" character. It was better than Bizarro, but still hasn't quite it that great stride yet.

I have to admit I thought the guy who played the editor did a bad job as well.

[Ahura Mazda]

Is kara more powerful then Clark in the show?

I have not seen the episode and most likely will not until the season 7 DVD comes out.

[COMPO]

it isn't on tv-links and took bizarro off.

[The Caped Knight]

Is kara more powerful then Clark in the show?



It's emplied that she is .

[TWistim]

Found it. Didn't try iTunes (don't you have to pay for downloads?), but I found it. Thanks for the suggestion.

Where did you find it? I would like to see it again.

[Tron5000]

Where did you find it? I would like to see it again.

alloftv.net They usually get things up pretty quickly. Not always the highest quality, but they have a lot of stuff.

[TWistim]

alloftv.net They usually get things up pretty quickly. Not always the highest quality, but they have a lot of stuff.

Thanks. :yay:

[Tron5000]

Just finished watching it. I really enjoyed this episode. I like that Kara will teach Clark about his heritage, and Clark will teach Kara about human civilization. It's going to bring out the best of both of their human and alien sides.

I like Jor-El mentioning that Clark had finally decided to begin his training.

A lot of people are upset that with the direction that Lex's character has taken. Personally, I think it will only last a couple episodes (and I feel it's all fake anyway), and Lex will finally flip his lid and go totally psycho. Cloning Lana? That's just damn crazy. Hopefully he becomes just ruthless and maniacal.

I'm glad MR has been moved up to #2. He's always been the second-most important on the show.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

i still cant believe Michael wants his final season of Smallville with Lex being a pussy fessed weeney boy. After for the most part an awesome evil Lex we are back to square one with Michaels last season :whatever: After the awesome evil Lex we had in the Justice episode we are back to square one.

[bootspark]

Ratings for KARA

4.56 million viewers

[OobeDoobBenubi]

It looks like Laura will be getting that spin off if things go good with ratings :oldrazz:

[Tron5000]

i still cant believe Michael wants his final season of Smallville with Lex being a pussy fessed weeney boy. After for the most part an awesome evil Lex we are back to square one with Michaels last season :whatever: After the awesome evil Lex we had in the Justice episode we are back to square one.


I don't think we're back to square 1. This will last a couple weeks, and then Lex will be in full-blown evil mode.

Do you think he is willing to use whatever resources necessary to locate Kara so he can thank her for saving him? No; he wants to use her.

When he finds out his father was in on the plan with Lana, some stuff's gonna go down. By ep. 4 or 5, Lex is going to be more evil than ever.

[AgentPat]

Is kara more powerful then Clark in the show?Clark tells Chloe that Kara is as strong as he and that she can fly. Kara threw Clark through a bunch of trees and Clark threw Kara to the ground like a sack of potatoes when she was trying to fly away. Clark had to teach Kara how to use her superhearing, and it's been teased that Kara will teach him how to fly in a future episode. Other than individual abilities, they're pretty equal in power.

[Syncos]

Clark tells Chloe that Kara is as strong as he and that she can fly. Kara threw Clark through a bunch of trees and Clark threw Kara to the ground like a sack of potatoes when she was trying to fly away. Clark had to teach Kara how to use her superhearing, and it's been teased that Kara will teach him how to fly in a future episode. Other than individual abilities, they're pretty equal in power.

I don't think Kara actually threw Clark through those trees. If I remember correctly, they charged at each other, and when they collided they both went flying in opposite directions. We just didn't see what happened when Kara stopped moving, and since she can fly, i'm guessing that's how she got to Clark as fast as she did.

[AgentPat]

I don't think Kara actually threw Clark through those trees. If I remember correctly, they charged at each other, and when they collided they both went flying in opposite directions. We just didn't see what happened when Kara stopped moving, and since she can fly, i'm guessing that's how she got to Clark as fast as she did.Good point. The impact could have had them "fly" back in opposite directions. We didn't get to see what happened to Kara.

I think it is interesting to note however that Kara did hit him with that kind of force. She tells him later that she's never killed anybody. Well, what did she think would happen to a "normal" human after an impact like that? Her first question to Clark when she flies over to him should have been, "why are you still alive?" LOL Just sayin'. :p

[Gmanofsteel]

Saw it last night and enjoyed it for the most part.

- "I'm leaving Smallville" - I loved Clark's response when Lois asked where he would go . . . "Up north" yes, I was geeked :D

- Kara V.S. Clark -Loved the throw downs between Clark and Kara, HILARIOUS :D

- SG's Flying - I'm not sure how much more supergirl flying I can take. No not the fact that she's flying, but rather the cgi they are using. I'm getting tired of the streaks :(

- Go Lois go! - Being the reporter she's supposed to be, but how she gets hired is well, odd and feels slightly forced.

- Chloe bashing - . . . . As much as I am annoyed by Chloe to no end, I have to admit after the second scene of Chloe bashing by the Editor I was quite shocked. A lot of his comments were VERY harsh. I get where he's coming from. When Chloe printed stories at the torch, her passion about the stories was the meteor freaks was unequalled, but she stopped even trying to print stories like that when she went to the Daily Planet, so he's not too impressed by her now. (Although, in her defense, Someone should tell him that his predecessor turned down Chloe's vampire story and basically told her if she wanted to make it to the top she's have to cut the metor crap out.)

- invasion of the crystal snatchers! - I'm curious who (or what) would have had enough info to actually know about the crystal . . . hmmmm (for some reason I have a feeling that Brainiac? might be responsible some how.

- "Krypton went boom Kara" - I was suprised when Kara didn't know that krypton had exploded, it was a sad scene, but a good one :up:

- clone lana - Interesting idea of how lana framed lex, although, if this next episode is any indication of what we will get out of this little clone saga, ugh.

- Kara's discription of Krypton - I like that she mentioned Kandor and had a close relationship with Lara :)

over all a good ep, with at least 2 WTF moments lol

8/10

[Kii]

Michael Cassidy did a very poor job as Grant, I was pretty close to muting the TV during his scenes.

[Hypestyle]

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Re: the new DP editor- is he from the comics? At least Lois is now on staff at the Planet-- uh, has she graduated from college yet?


Re: Lana- I thought they'd draw out her death/disappearance a lot longer, at least until november sweeps.. ah well..
and apparently, a CLONE is how she was able to fake her death? egads, the Clone Saga-virus is unstoppable!
But wait-- let's say there is another Lana clone, and its DNA was mixed with that of several insects-- Boom! Instant Insect Queen! (oldschool superboy heads know what time it is)

I'm still waiting to see what J'onn J'onzz' take is on Kara..

[AndThePickles]

Blah, last night's episode was too cheesy for my tastes. Lex has gone soft, I don't like Kara, Lana was discovered much too early!

[The Caped Knight]

- SG's Flying - I'm not sure how much more supergirl flying I can take. No not the fact that she's flying, but rather the cgi they are using. I'm getting tired of the streaks :(

The Streaks are a homage to Helen Slater's Supergirl as well as the comics, when she flew their was a Red,Yellow & blue streak .

Besides it's no different than when Clark Super Speeds, Their always a red or blue Streak .

- Go Lois go! - Being the reporter she's supposed to be, but how she gets hired is well, odd and feels slightly forced.

I liked how they wrote Lois getting into The Daily Planet , (1) It wasn't based on her looks (2) It wasn't as lame as How Chloe got it in "Thirst" (3) It was a true interatation of Lois Lane Characteristics .

As for Grant, some of you may not agree with this but. He acts like a young Perry White who's Arrogant attitude towards his works will Help bring out the best in them . That he knows they can be .



- Chloe bashing - . . . . As much as I am annoyed by Chloe to no end, I have to admit after the second scene of Chloe bashing by the Editor I was quite shocked. A lot of his comments were VERY harsh. I get where he's coming from. When Chloe printed stories at the torch, her passion about the stories was the meteor freaks was unequalled, but she stopped even trying to print stories like that when she went to the Daily Planet, so he's not too impressed by her now. (Although, in her defense, Someone should tell him that his predecessor turned down Chloe's vampire story and basically told her if she wanted to make it to the top she's have to cut the metor crap out.)

Again I may get bashed upon for my opinion (but just like Lois Lane, I don't give a damn, It's my opinion if you don't like it tough .) Chloe for the pass 6 season as been praised for her supposed Journalism skills. Which I think is a load of Bull,(I'm not saying she doesn't have the skills, she does to a certain degree) However without her blasted Computure skills @ (Hacking, Researching) , she nothing . She is nothing like What Lois Lane will become .

What has she done since arrving at The Daily Planet ? (Without The Help of Lois & Clark ) Has she gone out and looked for Stories on her own that would help her get out of the damn basement ? Has she written a huge front page Story on The Daily Planet that had a huge impact on her carrer ?

I'm Glad someone had the balls to tell her off . She deserve it . It's time for her to realize that's she in The Major Leagues . Time for her to step up to the plate or find herself another job .





- invasion of the crystal snatchers! - I'm curious who (or what) would have had enough info to actually know about the crystal . . . hmmmm (for some reason I have a feeling that Brainiac? might be responsible some how.

I'm betting that guy is Brainiac or at the very least is connected with him .

[TWistim]

I have to admit I liked "Kara" better the second time around. Here's some of what I found to be interesting:

Chloe said, "Here's everything I know, Lex. You need some serious psychiatry."I couldn't agree more. I don't trust for one minute that he's changed.
Lex said, "This woman (not an angel) saved me." He's just moved from one obsession to another. As Lana said in "Phantom" he doesn't know how to love.


House of El family - what has been revealed so far:Kara said Jor-El and Zor-El never talked and there were alot of family secrets.

Zor-El told Kara that Krypton's salvation was on earth and that she and Clark were the key.

Jor-El told Clark, "Kara can't be trusted . . . she poses a greater threat than you believe."

Kara would slip away to visit Lara, who she said was sweet to her. I'm wondering if that bracelet she wears was a gift from Lara.


Oh and if I haven't already said it, I thought Tom was brilliant! :heart: :heart: :heart:

[Red]

Not sure if I liked "Kara". It was filled with some very cringe worthy moments.

[Red]

I'm betting that guy is Brainiac or at the very least is connected with him .

I thought the same.

[Tron5000]

I have to admit I liked "Kara" better the second time around. Here's some of what I found to be interesting:

Chloe said, "Here's everything I know, Lex. You need some serious psychiatry."I couldn't agree more. I don't trust for one minute that he's changed.
Lex said, "This woman (not an angel) saved me." He's just moved from one obsession to another. As Lana said in "Phantom" he doesn't know how to love.


House of El family - what has been revealed so far:Kara said Jor-El and Zor-El never talked and there were alot of family secrets.

Zor-El told Kara that Krypton's salvation was on earth and that she and Clark were the key.

Jor-El told Clark, "Kara can't be trusted . . . she poses a greater threat than you believe."

Kara would slip away to visit Lara, who she said was sweet to her. I'm wondering if that bracelet she wears was a gift from Lara.


Oh and if I haven't already said it, I thought Tom was brilliant! :heart: :heart: :heart:

Yeah, I wonder what "Krypton's salvation" on Earth is. I mean, is he referring to the salvation of their race? And if so, for their race to continue, wouldn't 2 Kryptonians have to, umm, "facilitate" that? And aren't Clark and Kara the only 2 "good" Kryptonians? Eewwww....

But he could've meant another kind of "salvation." They obviously can't save the planet of Krypton, since it's gone. This quote has me puzzled.

[The Caped Knight]

House of El family - what has been revealed so far:

Their so following The Loeb version ,

Jor-EL & Zor-EL never really got a long well.

Kara & Lara had a special relationship

Lara never agreed with Jor-EL on his opinion of his Brother Zor-EL, The same was with Allura with how she never agreed with Zor-EL's opinion of his Jor-EL .

Lara & Allura got along very well

Zor-EL was always jealous of his brother's fame on Krypton , When he was just as smart as his brother, and at times was even smarter .

Jor-EL always saw his brother Zor-EL as a helpess child that couldn't do anything for himself, blaming others for his mistakes .

[IzzyJG99]

They already said Brainiac is coming back. I'm not surprised at all. That guy copies himself so much he is impossible to kill.

[Eddie Brock]

the current condition of supergirl in the comics was the daughter of zor-el sent to earth to kill kal-el. obv she gets over that eventially.
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We're sorry, but that is incorrect. Thanks again for playing. :yay:

The "Kill Kal-El" thing was just an elaborate test to see if Kara is the REAL Supergirl, or just an anomaly left over from the Crisis. As it so happens, Kara passed the test. Smoke and mirrors, my friend...smoke and mirrors. :cwink:

[The Caped Knight]

*buzzer*

We're sorry, but that is incorrect. Thanks again for playing. :yay:

The "Kill Kal-El" thing was just an elaborate test to see if Kara is the REAL Supergirl, or just an anomaly left over from the Crisis. As it so happens, Kara passed the test. Smoke and mirrors, my friend...smoke and mirrors. :cwink:


^ Bingo

Also it was partly due to a twisted "test" designed by Dark Angel, (similar to How Brainiac had manipulated Clark on "Smallville" in the episode "Splinter" with Sliver Kryptonite .)

[TWistim]

Their so following The Loeb version ,

Jor-EL & Zor-EL never really got a long well.

Kara & Lara had a special relationship

Lara never agreed with Jor-EL on his opinion of his Brother Zor-EL, The same was with Allura with how she never agreed with Zor-EL's opinion of his Jor-EL .

Lara & Allura got along very well

Zor-EL was always jealous of his brother's fame on Krypton , When he was just as smart as his brother, and at times was even smarter .

Jor-EL always saw his brother Zor-EL as a helpess child that couldn't do anything for himself, blaming others for his mistakes .

Was this Jor-El anything like the SV version? I have never trusted him the way he's been portrayed on SV.

[Gmanofsteel]

Clark teaching Kara how to refine her powers (even though she's technically more powerful than he is at this point)

that was awesome :up:

[The Caped Knight]

Was this Jor-El anything like the SV version? I have never trusted him the way he's been portrayed on SV.

Their were alot of similarities (to The Stamp version of Jor-EL on "smallville"), But then their was also more of (The Loving Brando version as well from the superman movies.) Than is shown on "smallville" At this point in time .

Lara's Character as remained the same ( the Loving , kind, understand woman .)

[TWistim]

Their were alot of similarities (to The Stamp version of Jor-EL on "smallville"), But then their was also more of The Loving Brando version as well from the superman movies.(than is shown on "smallville". At this point)

Lara's always been the Loving ,kind understand woman .

I much prefer the Brando version. A lot of what they have done with Jor-El on SV just hasn't made sense to me. And then there's the question of whether he is a benevolent person or not? For much of it he has been portrayed as cold, heartless and tyrannical. Then in "Fallout" Raya paints him as sacrificial and caring. What gives? :huh:

[LadyVader]

I liked this episode. I like the new characters (Supergirl and editor guy), how the Lex-Lana issue was resolved although i was looking forward for Lex being put on trial, and I also liked how Clark behaved throughout the episode. At first he was concerned for other people's safety and then for Kara's and at the end he was like: "Screw you dad, I'm keepin' her!". Way to go clarky.

I like the new editor guy because for once somebody tells Lois to get off her very fine ass and stop underachieving. He's very different from other people she's been with in the series so far, and although at first I thought they are completely mismatched, now i realised that Lois herself has said at one point she's into nerdy guys. :)

One thing that bothers me is what the hell is up with these kryptonian spaceships they keep disappearing on us!

[Tron5000]

It's a soap opera. Characters are always changing. Next thing you know, Brainiac will be Clark's real father and Jor-El was sent here to protect Clark. Who knows?

[Mike_D202]

I'm not sure if I like the editor/cheif guy. Hes a bit annoying.

Other than that, I really enjoyed the episode. Cant wait to see super-battles :D

I wonder if we'll see something like this as a mid-season episode or finale:

http://www.supermantv.net/superman/comicbooks/new/supergirl-death.jpg

[LadyVader]

He is a little over the top:
"Gotta sell them papers"
All he needed were dollar signs for pupils, but then again he had to make his big entrance as a character. I'm sure he's not going to be like that all the time.

[COMPO]

i liked this episode, i liked how the editor dissed Chloe because if you look at what Chloe's done at the Planet. She hasn't really done much. Kara, i loved her, Lauara portrayed the pain of loosing everything she knew and the rebellious bits of Kara perfectly. I didn't like Chloe in this ep i felt she wasn't really needed.

I liked the Lex and Lana confrontation and i liked the twist with the clone and thought it was a good idea. I liked how Tom sort of took up the Jonathon role of helping Kara with the super-hearing and sort of being the one who helps the hero at the end of the episode with their emotional problems.

[The Caped Knight]

I much prefer the Brando version. A lot of what they have done with Jor-El on SV just hasn't made sense to me. And then there's the question of whether he is a benevolent person or not? For much of it he has been portrayed as cold, heartless and tyrannical. Then in "Fallout" Raya paints him as sacrificial and caring. What gives? :huh:


The Best vesion of Jor-EL

1. Marlon Brando - Superman The movies

2. Christopher McDonald - Superman : The animated Series ("The Last Son Of Krypton") - his version of Jor-EL was 100% Brando's version , just younger in age .

3. David Warner - Lois & Clark : The New Adventures of Superman ("The Foundling") I still think it was a very big mistake in replacing him in "Big Girls Don't Fly."


4.The Comics - Pre & Post

5. Terence Stamp (smallville) - Even though Jor-EL been shown as evil man I sort of see what the writters were trying to do . In order for Kal-EL to grow up into the man He's Destined to become. Jor-EL need to show his son the tough love Father figure . That would challenge him and would help shape Kal-EL into The Superman he'll become .


Jonathan Kent took the loving Father role in Rasing his son Clark Kent, with strong Moral Values & to use his powers to help people not for presonal gain or for evil .

Both Father's have the same goal for their son,(Just very different methods for teaching .)

[COMPO]

wow, you really know ur stuff.

[Tron5000]

i liked this episode, i liked how the editor dissed Chloe because if you look at what Chloe's done at the Planet. She hasn't really done much. Kara, i loved her, Lauara portrayed the pain of loosing everything she knew and the rebellious bits of Kara perfectly. I didn't like Chloe in this ep i felt she wasn't really needed.

I liked the Lex and Lana confrontation and i liked the twist with the clone and thought it was a good idea. I liked how Tom sort of took up the Jonathon role of helping Kara with the super-hearing and sort of being the one who helps the hero at the end of the episode with their emotional problems.

Yeah, how he was telling her to focus, and listen to everything, but block out all the unnecessary stuff...It reminded me very much of Jonathan helping Clark learn how to control his hearing.

[COMPO]

the son becomes the father and the father the son.

[Gmanofsteel]

Yeah, how he was telling her to focus, and listen to everything, but block out all the unnecessary stuff...It reminded me very much of Jonathan helping Clark learn how to control his hearing.

That reminded of me of that as well. Him helping her and guiding her was very Supermanly. In the comics Jonathan guided Clark and protected him, then later when he becomes Superman he guided and protected Kara. I look forward to seeing more of this on the show :up:

[COMPO]

i miss jonathon now.

[Captivated]

STILL don't like the addition of "Super-Barbie." But she was slightly more tolerable when dialoging with Clark about Krypton...

Still HATE the fact that she FLYs before Clark!! That's just WRONG.

Another lame wha-huh... So she learned English in the ship, but her immediate grasp of popular culture and vernacular... as stupid as the Mexican boy with the California accent from "Subterranean." :whatever:

But if they are going to go down this cheesy path at least they should make the effects up to the usual standards. The scenes with her powers and flight looked sub par. Goofy. Stupid.

Lois and Chloe at the Planet... interesting.

The Lex and Lana confrontation seemed a little rushed... anti-climatic.

I understand that Lana was rightly afraid and also trying to protect Clark... but it bothers me (as in, it makes no sense and seems out of character) that the writers would have Lana being so insensitive to how much PAIN her false death would cause Clark and Chloe. I don't believe that she would not trust them with the truth.

The preview for next week is VERY alarming. What the hell do they mean by "the Lana that left is not the Lana that returns"?! It BETTER be a figure of speech.

They write out Martha... have Super-Bimbo flying around... AND make Lana a clone... we're getting close to a deal-killer here.

Of course... the reality is... I'll watch ANY episode that features TW as Clark. I could watch him load hay into the truck for an hour and call it a good show. :cwink:

[Captivated]

Im loving everything about this episode so far.

Lois at the Planet
Clark
Lex

But Im hating the "skirt". Pat I understand how your feeling.
Y'all aren't alone...

[Captivated]

PLEASE. No characters who turn out to be clones!!!! ESPECIALLY Lana!

I swear... if Lana turns out to be a clone... I will have a CONNIPTION FIT! It could get really ugly. :mad:

[AgentPat]

Clark teaching Kara how to refine her powers (even though she's technically more powerful than he is at this point)Technically, this isn't true. They both have the same abilities under the yellow sun. Kara didn't know she even *had* superhearing, neverless know how to use it, and Clark *can* fly - he just doesn't know how to do it at will. They'll teach each other these things, which I suppose is pretty fair. In terms of strength, they both seem to be equally powerful.

[AgentPat]

Y'all aren't alone...:D

I'm back in the minority again, but that's okay, I like the company here. ;)

[The Caped Knight]

http://galerie.smallville-town.com/albums/Captures/Saison_7/702-Kara/bscap766.jpg
I'm Betting The Blue Crystal taken from Kara's ship is .....

The Blue Kryptonian Sunstone Crystal
http://supermanthrutheages.com/tales4/sunstone/1.jpg

[TWistim]

Even though Jor-EL been shown as evil man I sort of see what the writters were trying to do . In order for Kal-EL to grow up into the man He's Destined to become. Jor-EL need to show his son the tough love Father figure . That would challenge him and would help shape Kal-EL into The Superman he'll become .


Jonathan Kent took the loving Father role in Rasing his son Clark Kent, with strong Moral Values & to use his powers to help people not for presonal gain or for evil .

Both Father's have the same goal for their son,(Just very different methods for teaching .)

Granted. But Jor-El's version of fatherhood seems staight out of the Lionel Luthor playbook for parenting as you describe it. I think it goes a little beyond "tough love." He scarred him physically, deceived and tried to manipulate him into training with fake Kara, drew him into a cave wall and brainwashed him, took his powers and then returned them with his life at the expense of the life of someone that Clark loved, need I go on. I don't see how any of this has been the best for Clark. Tough love is doing what's best for your child. Causing your child to resent and fear you only scars them emotionally. I'll take being motivated out of love any day over Jor-El's (Stamp version) way. If the writers's were going for the tough love aspect they missed it, or rather completely overshot it! JMHO :ninja:

[The Caped Knight]

Granted. But Jor-El's version of fatherhood seems staight out of the Lionel Luthor playbook for parenting as you describe it. I think it goes a little beyond "tough love." He scarred him physically, deceived and tried to manipulate him into training with fake Kara, drew him into a cave wall and brainwashed him, took his powers and then returned them with his life at the expense of the life of someone that Clark loved, need I go on. I don't see how any of this has been the best for Clark. Tough love is doing what's best for your child. Causing your child to resent and fear you only scars them emotionally. I'll take being motivated out of love any day over Jor-El's (Stamp version) way. If the writers's were going for the tough love aspect they missed it, or rather completely overshot it! JMHO :ninja:

I know (Kinda makes you wonder if jor-EL choose Lionel to be his vessel on Purpose.)

Likewise

[TWistim]

I know (Kinda makes you wonder if jor-EL choose Lionel to be his vessel on Purpose.)

Likewise

Yeah, always wondered about that choice! :woot:

Thanks for filling in the background mythos for me.

[SuperDaniel]

Did anybody catch the Superman inspired silver painting behind Lois and Chole at the Daily Planet? That was a nice nod.

This episode went so fast and that is a good sign. Everything in it was amazing except Lana. She`s destroying this show for me.

[Eddie Brock]

Did anybody catch the Superman inspired silver painting behind Lois and Chole at the Daily Planet? That was a nice nod.

This episode went so fast and that is a good sign. Everything in it was amazing except Lana. She`s destroying this show for me.
I like you.

:yay:

[SuperDaniel]

If they make her a clone...oh my god...i might seriously consider stopping watching this show like i did on season 4 or 5...I can take crap to an extent, you know?

[Eddie Brock]

If they make her a clone...oh my god...i might seriously consider stopping watching this show like i did on season 4 or 5...I can take crap to an extent, you know?
You sound like me 21 hours ago. :woot:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Look at it this way no Superman show is complete without a clone saga. There is a clone saga in every Superman story.

[SuperDaniel]

When is actually done good, i have no problem with it whatsoever. But taking a character that is already hated because they write her so bad, imagine if we actually discover Lana is a clone. This is not a GOOD thing... At least i dont watch the episodes on TV cause i live in Canada so i download them. I can fast foward everytime she`s on screen.

[Eddie Brock]

When is actually done good, i have no problem with it whatsoever. But taking a character that is already hated because they write her so bad, imagine if we actually discover Lana is a clone. This is not a GOOD thing... At least i dont watch the episodes on TV cause i live in Canada so i download them. I can fast foward everytime she`s on screen.
I had it on my TiVo, so I re-watched it today...

But I just fast-forwarded to scenes with Kara. :oldrazz:

[SuperDaniel]

But anyways...2 episodes...2 good episodes...thats a good thing...but with Smallville, u can except the crap soon. If the Dean Cain episode sucks, i`ll be pissed `cause i was/am a huge fan of Lois & Clark...

[SuperDaniel]

I had it on my TiVo, so I re-watched it today...

But I just fast-forwarded to scenes with Kara. :oldrazz:

Well...lets say that in the final scene in the barn, i couldnt take my eyes of the place they are going to put an "S" in the future...:oldrazz: :cwink:

[TWistim]

Well...lets say that in the final scene in the barn, i couldnt take my eyes of the place they are going to put an "S" in the future...:oldrazz: :cwink:

Yeah, I know what you mean. Tom's chest is awesome!!! :cwink:

[Mike_D202]

I read in an interview with the actress that this is indeed based on the recent supergirl incarnation in the comics.

[SuperDaniel]

Yeah, I know what you mean. Tom's chest is awesome!!! :cwink:


LMFAO...i meant...hers....:oldrazz:

[SuperDaniel]

And she was so cute when she smiled and said...Clark...

[TWistim]

LMFAO...i meant...hers....:oldrazz:

I know. :yay:

[The Caped Knight]

Well...lets say that in the final scene in the barn, i couldnt take my eyes of the place they are going to put an "S" in the future...:oldrazz: :cwink:

http://www.smallvillededication.com/gallery/albums/7x02kara/kara622.jpg

Join The club . (I'm still on cloud 9) :super: :D

[Havok83]

Ratings for KARA

4.56 million viewers
is that good? I dont follow Smallville ratings. Kara is defiently the reason why Im watching this show this season. Im hooked and havent touched it aside from a few episodes the first eyar

[Eddie Brock]

And she was so cute when she smiled and said...Clark...
She was beyond cute.

She makes cute look like Joan Rivers.

:woot:

[LadyVader]

I hated the first words she uttered:
"That's what happens when people touch my stuff"

Sheesh, what are you? 12?

[Serene]

When is actually done good, i have no problem with it whatsoever. But taking a character that is already hated because they write her so bad, imagine if we actually discover Lana is a clone. This is not a GOOD thing... At least i dont watch the episodes on TV cause i live in Canada so i download them. I can fast foward everytime she`s on screen.

:confused: I can't fathom anyone doing such a thing. It truly blows my mind. But, different strokes and all...

[BatJeff7786]

Ratings for KARA

4.56 million viewers

Did you make that up?
According to this site, the CW had 2.9 million viewers for Smallville.
http://www.zap2it.com/search/dispatcher.front

[cheungcheung]

when clark arrived, he looked like this:

http://hq55.com/cap/sv_pilot/pilot30.jpg

how come kara's picture was of a bald chubby baby?

http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/197/karaaboveearth3by5.jpg

[The Caped Knight]

when clark arrived, he looked like this:

http://hq55.com/cap/sv_pilot/pilot30.jpg

how come kara's picture was of a bald chubby baby?

http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/197/karaaboveearth3by5.jpg


Boy are you stupid . :whatever: j/k lol :woot:

As I said early in this thread The image from Kara's House Of EL crystal is that of Baby Kal-EL from Krypton (They used the image from Season 3 episode 19 "Memoria") When he arrived on Earth because of the Yellow Sun radititon Kal-EL arrived as a small boy instead of a baby like he was on Krypton .

Baby Kal-EL on Krypton
http://www.smallvillededication.com/gallery/albums/3x19memoria/memoria494.jpg
http://www.smallvillededication.com/gallery/albums/3x19memoria/memoria496.jpg

Young Kal-EL arrival on Earth
http://galerie.smallville-town.com/albums/Captures/Saison%201/Pilot/cap027.jpg

[cheungcheung]

interesting....

how come the yellow sun didn't age kara?

[AgentPat]

Did you make that up?
According to this site, the CW had 2.9 million viewers for Smallville.
http://www.zap2it.com/search/dispatcher.frontNo, he didn't make it up. Maybe you don't understand how ratings figures work?

zap2it (the site you linked) did not list overall viewership, just ratings' shares (there's a difference.)

According to the fast nationals as reported by MediaWeek however, "Kara" was seen by 4.56 million viewers. The figure will probably increase slightly when all viewer logs are reported by next week. Check the Ratings thread in this forum for updates.

[The Caped Knight]

interesting....

how come the yellow sun didn't age kara?


She was traped in suspended animation for the last 18 years . (So she hasn't age a day old from since the time she left Krypton ) I'm also betting since she arrived in the meteor Shower with Kal-EL . Her Ship somehow got incased in A large Kryptonite meteor that crashed landed inside Reeves Dam.


It also appears smallville is going with STAS version In Which Kara has a much stronger resistant to Green Kryptonite than Kal-EL does .

[TheComicbookKid]

Why did she say she can't get near the ship when they had a confrontation right in front of the ship. She was closer to it than Clark. And how did she move the ship and bury it in the forest if all that Kryptonite was around in the first place.

[PJBoy]

Three scenes about the episode...

Lois and Clark finds Kara: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALHe_b_-ahA
Kara looking for Kal-El: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKR21gWUeHk
Lex and Lana scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIFnqe36-fI

[The Caped Knight]

^ Do you think you can get more Kara & Kal-EL scene ?

Also Lois & Clark

And finally Lois Lane's getting the job @ THE DAILY PLANET .

[ariellem]

Did anybody catch the Superman inspired silver painting behind Lois and Chole at the Daily Planet? That was a nice nod.

Missed it :csad: and I've already deleted the episode. Anyone have a screen cap of it? TIA!

[COMPO]

to be honest i liked that line that Clark said, "keeping you out of trouble has become a bad habit of mine" loved it. Sort of foreshadowing what he's going to have to do later in life.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

A couple things I don't understand.

Clark has to teach her how to use super hearing but yet she comes to earth able to fly right away and Clark can't??? :confused:

Also, didn't Lex think he was saved by an angel? Why would he draw a picture for someone to find her?

[\S/JcDc\S/]

to be honest i liked that line that Clark said, "keeping you out of trouble has become a bad habit of mine" loved it. Sort of foreshadowing what he's going to have to do later in life.

WOW you caught that? What a great mind you must have ;)




LOL, just teasing you. Yeah I'd say people figured that one out :)

[The Caped Knight]

to be honest i liked that line that Clark said, "keeping you out of trouble has become a bad habit of mine" loved it. Sort of foreshadowing what he's going to have to do later in life.

I believe the word is "Love to Do" , let's face it SUPERMAN enjoys coming in the nick of time to fly Lois Lane out of danger .

[ariellem]

Maybe he gets off - well, high, anyway - on near misses? Ex: catching Chloe in Noir at the bottom of the staircase; catching Lana below the skylight in that S6 ep where Lex's security guy was her stalker... Trespass?

[COMPO]

WOW you caught that? What a great mind you must have ;)




LOL, just teasing you. Yeah I'd say people figured that one out :)

smart ass:woot:

I believe the word is "Love to Do" , let's face it SUPERMAN enjoys coming in the nick of time to fly Lois Lane out of danger .

anyone would.

Maybe he gets off - well, high, anyway - on near misses? Ex: catching Chloe in Noir at the bottom of the staircase; catching Lana below the skylight in that S6 ep where Lex's security guy was her stalker... Trespass?

he sits on rooftops watching going, "now let's see if i can break my record."

[Prison Mike]

Here's the full episode if anyone is interested...

7juponvYJW8

[The Joker_1000]

I have it recorded. I just hate that I have the first episode recorded on my TV & not a VHS tape so I should be getting all of season seven except for the first episode. Ah well.

[KALEL114]

Does anyone think that the agent that has the crystal either is or works for Milton Fine/Brainiac?

[The Caped Knight]

Does anyone think that the agent that has the crystal either is or works for Milton Fine/Brainiac?

I think it's Brainiac himself disguised as the agent .

[KALEL114]

Me to. I thought it was wierd that he knew to start evacuating when they opened the ship. The crystal lighting up, could of been just for dramatic effect, but that was odd also.

[Prison Mike]

I just think he's an actual agent. Brainiac isn't back yet, IMO. The crystal, however, could be tied to the brainiac storyline.

[Asteroid-Man]

Here's the full episode if anyone is interested...

7juponvYJW8
Notice the "C" curl at 5:01?

[The Caped Knight]

Notice the "C" curl at 5:01?

Clark's new look is slowly coming full circle towards The Famous S curl . :woot:

[SuperDaniel]

Theres the Superman painting at 8 mins behind Lois and Chloe....You can see it better when u see it larger...

[COMPO]

Does anyone think that the agent that has the crystal either is or works for Milton Fine/Brainiac?

I think it's Brainiac himself disguised as the agent .

Me to. I thought it was wierd that he knew to start evacuating when they opened the ship. The crystal lighting up, could of been just for dramatic effect, but that was odd also.

I just think he's an actual agent. Brainiac isn't back yet, IMO. The crystal, however, could be tied to the brainiac storyline.

that would be good. what if Brainiac is comunicating through the computer system seeing as part of him went through all of Earth's technology in Vessel.

[Riva]

The whole Govt angle to the storyline is really intriguing. It'll be very cool if Brainiac is somehow involved too.

I loved this episode. Great followup to the premiere. Clark was so amazing. Really is the ideal mentor for someone like Kara. I really liked their scenes together. Especially the one where he teaches her to hone in on superhearing. Clark had such a proud look on his face once she'd learnt. Aww!

I'm so happy that Lois is at the Daily planet. I have really loved her progression towards journalism all through season 6, and now in season 7 too. And she was so awesome in the epispde, with the ship, and her determination about it.

Not sure about the editor yet. And where I'm at right now, the less said about Chloe, the better too. So I wont go into anything.

The Lexana scene was really well done. Great job by Kristin and Michael. The dysfunction is still clearly there. You could see the hate on Lana's face yet she couldn't pull the trigger. And Lex's motivations seem totally dubious right now.

So that's it to the clone storyline, I'm assuming? Or rather, hoping. Lol.

[COMPO]

I liked the bit where Clark asked what the boy Kara's looking for is called. I was just sat there thinking, "it's you! it's kal-el" taht scene gave me chills.

[Riva]

That was a great scene! I liked all of Clark and Kara's scenes in this episode. If this is any indication of the kind of interplay their characters will share, I like it. :)

[Prison Mike]

The interaction between Clark and Kara in Fierce looks good too!

[COMPO]

i can't wait for more. thank god she's in Fierce. i can't wait to see her kick her in the head.

[The Joker_1000]

Who kicks who in the head?

[COMPO]

in the trailer Kara kicks someone in the head.

[Prison Mike]

maybe it's someone from the pagent (sp?)

[The Joker_1000]

Possibly. I thought you all said she kicked Clark in the head.

[COMPO]

she tried, but got owned.

[Prison Mike]

yeah Clark slammed her down! It was cool to see him irritated.

[The Joker_1000]

Her knockers moved too. :D

I have the episode recorded so I can watch it anytime.

[COMPO]

youtube.

[The Joker_1000]

Screw Youtube, I have VHS tapes I can record the episodes on.

[PJBoy]

in the trailer Kara kicks someone in the head.
I remember, this one:

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/223/16rh9.jpg

This scene came from "Fierce" I guess.

[The Joker_1000]

Looks like it's a woman that Kara kicks in the head.

[Spider-Gamer]

Looks like it's a woman that Kara kicks in the head.

Maybe its Bionic Woman. :cwink:

[PJBoy]

Maybe its Bionic Woman. :cwink:
LMAO

[Zorex]

I've seen Kara about 3 times now...yay for DVR and friends that haven't seen it. But I'm continually amazed at how...RIGHT Lois looks at the end when she gets offered the job at the Planet. Something about the hair and the costuming...it's weird, considering how less definitive of a look Lois has as compared to, say, Superman. But Durance was very much looking the part, appropriately at a time important to the journey of her character. Thought I'd share that :p

Was kinda disappointed that only a portion of the clips in the preview for Kara were actually scenes FROM Kara, but, ah well, bring on Fierce.

And I am SO excited at how close we're getting to Lara. I cannot begin to tell you.

[The Joker_1000]

I particularly like the scene where Kara is at the playground trying to see if one of the kids there is Kal-El.

[Eddie Brock]

I particularly like the scene where Kara is at the playground trying to see if one of the kids there is Kal-El.
Before then, she seems like the cold, calculating type like Non and Ursa were.

But then she flashes that smile and says, "I'm not going to hurt you."

[zanos]

Smallville never disappoints. The episode titled "Kara" is just as repetitive and badly written as any other Smallville episode filled with awful dialogue, plot and acting. The character of Kara is just another cheap gimmick in a long line of cheap gimmicks in this show.

[MJZ]

Smallville never disappoints. The episode titled "Kara" is just as repetitive and badly written as any other Smallville episode filled with awful dialogue, plot and acting. The character of Kara is just another cheap gimmick in a long line of cheap gimmicks in this show.

I love you random drive-by posters who show up once a year.

[COMPO]

don't we all

[Olea]

Hallo,

Newbie here.... I have been lurking these boards for a while but never got around to actually getting registered. Not too huge at posting, at least not any more, but I like reading peoples thoughts and whenever I have the time posting my own.

I probably know a lot of you - and you know me - from other Smallville boards I post, so looking forward to chating with you all.

Since most people have already expressed their views on the episode, I thought I should do the same by posting my review here too. I should probably also mention that I am one of those fans who got really, really, really disappointed last year with Smallville and I find myself very dificult to please this year....


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Tom Welling, as sexy as ever, did a very good job of welcoming newcomer Kara and showing her all is not lost because Krypton is dead. Home is where your family is and Clark is family. I liked him better in this episode than in "Bizarro". He was more human and lot closer to what we expect him to be. He seems to be ready to take up on his destiny - which having seen next week's trailer we know won't last but alas.

Admittedly I have mixed feeling about this episode. In my opinion it was way bellow average and worst than last week but on the other hand it had some very good points too. Likes and dislike?

Me likes:

- A lot less Clark brooding over Lana than we experienced last season. She is supposed to be dead and he is coping just fine. He doesn't need to go on a rampage to deal with her loss.
- The Clark & Kara dynamic. She is the outsider and he is the only one who can understand her and can help her adjust to the new reality. She is going to be a handful, that much is clear but it's a responcibility that will allow him to mature and see his path through diffrent eyes.
- The Clark & Lois dynamic is getting interesting too. He seems to be already developing bad habits of keeping her out of trouble. Let's hope that he will finally start developing some more bad habits along the way, like say start writing again!!!!
- Chloe trying to understand what is happening to her and maybe even start doing some investigating again.
- Clark at the Fortress. He is ready to move on with his training but also trusting Jor-El with the information he has and for once listening to what he has to say.
- A Goverment agency getting involved. Could this be a possible Cadmus storyline? Or the baby steps of Amanda Waller's secret goverment agency? Intrigued, yes, yes!!!


Me dislikes:

- The get hit over the head fetish thing the writer have. The number of times Lana & Lois have been hit over the head, they should be in a vegetate state, or suffer serious brain damage. Can't the writer be a bit more creative?
- Lois getting a job at the Planet or rather the way it was done. It was the same recipe all over again. Chloe/Lois writes a brilliant but unpublishable article about vampires/spaceships and she gets the job because it's obvious she has passion. Duh?
- The Daily Planet new Editor. I like passion but this was lunacy. We want someone who will inspire and mentor Lois into becoming the star reporter she is supposed to be. Challenge is good but it should be more than just her ego replying "Yes, I can", every time he says "No, you can't". And making him a love interest doesn't count for mentoring.
- The very, very bad Chloe treatment. Yes, I agree that last season she did next to nothing in terms of writing but to me the way she was brushed off as burnt out, it looked more like undermining her character in order to elevate Lois. I find this unfair to both characters because Chloe has already proven her writing skills multiple times but also because Lois rose above everyone else due to her instincts when it came to a story and her ability to write the very best expose's than any other reporter. Not because there was no-one else around to compete.
- Lana Lang. I still try to understand why the writers keep her around or what purpose last year's-continued-this-year storyline served. I guess I have to keep on wondering....

And last but not least Lex Luthor again. It's official the writers have castrated him. How else can you explain his behaviour? He goes into all this trouble locating Lana - only God knows how - and he apologises to her? Give me a break. He should be holding the gun and she should be running for her life. The real Lex Luthor is not forgiving. He knows how to hold a grudge. This could only serve as a device to allow Lana to return to Smallville and continue strutting her stuff as if nothing happened and there should be no accountability for her actions.

My only hope is that he is easing her back to Smallville where he can devise the ultimate revenge on her proving once and for all that he is EVIL and not driven to said actions due to the circumstances.


Feeling generous, I would give this episode a 3.5/5

[AgentPat]

Oh boy, now THAT's a first post! :wow:



Welcome to The Hype, Olea. :D :up:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I dont remember Clark asking about the fake Kara at the fortress like spoilers said he would did he ? I guess thats a deleted scene or knowing G & M they could not come up with a reasonable explinatio for Jor-El to tell Clark so they did not bother.

[KalKai]

You have a short memory..

Clark: Kryptonian girl showed up on my door step, her name is Kara. Last time that happened you were behind it.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

You have a short memory..

Clark: Kryptonian girl showed up on my door step, her name is Kara. Last time that happened you were behind it.

You got me there but he never explanined the fake Kara he just said "I know nothing of her arrival". Spoilers said he would explain it. Ah well

[KalKai]

I'm not sure if the spoilers said Jor-El would explain the fake Kara, maybe you're confusing it with this?

AL GOUGH: There was another Kara at the end of season 3, which we find out is a ruse of Jor-el's. The Kara that we are introducing in the Season 7 premiere is indeed Kara Zor-el aka Supergirl. There is no connection between the two, but Clark does raise this point to Jor-el in the Fortress.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

& he dodges it like a bastard :o

[dark_b]

You have a short memory..

Clark: Kryptonian girl showed up on my door step, her name is Kara. Last time that happened you were behind it.i really dont want to nitpick and maybe i even forgot something from this episode.

but why did clark belive who she was? what about the fake kara?

just asking. i dont want any trouble. please dont hurt me :csad:

[KalKai]

lol I'm not sure if I understood your question well.

For starters, him & Lois found her ship with Kryptonian symbols on it, I think that's enough to believe she's coming from outer space/Krypton isn't it? lol.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

For starters, him & Lois found her ship with Kryptonian symbols on it

& that silver thing on her hand had the S logo

[KalKai]

She seemed genuine from the start, I don't think Clark ever doubted her, although now he may thanks to Jor-El, and the friction between her & MM.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Hallo,

Newbie here.... I have been lurking these boards for a while but never got around to actually getting registered. Not too huge at posting, at least not any more, but I like reading peoples thoughts and whenever I have the time posting my own.

I probably know a lot of you - and you know me - from other Smallville boards I post, so looking forward to chating with you all.



wait a second....


there are OTHER Smallville boards??? :wow::wow:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

She seemed genuine from the start, I don't think Clark ever doubted her, although now he may thanks to Jor-El, and the friction between her & MM.

When does she meet MM anyway. Well in this case see MM for the first time. They will already know each other.

[AgentPat]

wait a second....

there are OTHER Smallville boards??? :wow::wow:ROFL!! Yeah, and they all have their own personality. I often wonder how other SV boards perceive the opinions here, because it seems to be less polarized on certain topics at the Hype than say TWOP or K-Site.

[COMPO]

i cant wait for that

[Prison Mike]

how do you guys know that MM and Kara will have friction? Just asking.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

how do you guys know that MM and Kara will have friction? Just asking.

We are using the force :woot:

[COMPO]

it guides and bindes us. lol

[AgentPat]

how do you guys know that MM and Kara will have friction? Just asking.We are using the force :woot:LOL!

It was discussed in some of the spoilers, k18. I think Gough even mentioned it, but I don't remember which interview. There's so many of them right now.

[Serene]

wait a second....


there are OTHER Smallville boards??? :wow::wow:

Not really. ;)

ROFL!! Yeah, and they all have their own personality. I often wonder how other SV boards perceive the opinions here, because it seems to be less polarized on certain topics at the Hype than say TWOP or K-Site.

I think (and this is ridiculously obvious I know...) people are going to gravitate towards the boards that have the same consensus of opinion that they do. I like the balance here the most in terms of forum style discussions. LJ is great for in-depth analysis of shows, and K-Site rocks for the news and spoilers sections. I occasionally dip into shipper waters too, but you have to be prepared for totally one-sided opinions in those cases. I avoid the "We Just Like to Complain" boards. :dry:

[cheungcheung]

I avoid the "We Just Like to Complain" boards. :dry:

which essentially is every other board than than SHH... :cwink:

[AgentPat]

...I avoid the "We Just Like to Complain" boards. :dry:Bwaahaa!! :D

Honestly though, I've never seen that anywhere in the SV realm. I have seen extremely opinionated consensus on individual characters or story arcs, but the show as a whole has supporters wherever you go - even on boards where they doth protest too much. ;)

[Serene]

which essentially is every other board than than SHH... :cwink:

LOL... I think we DO complain here too, but it's doesn't seem to be the ENTIRE focus of the forums existence. There's a lot more love and appreciation of the show and the characters here, IMO. Most of us are here because we *like* the show, not because we need to air our outraged grievances about how much its raping the Superman legend. Although, we have our share of those opinions too, which is okay, as long as they don't dominate the general thinking. I'll be outta here if that ever happens.

[The Joker_1000]

I feel it's okay to critique something as long as you don't go overboard. I hate when someone compliments something & then someone else feels that they have to insult that same thing after a compliment is made.

[Prison Mike]

LOL!

It was discussed in some of the spoilers, k18. I think Gough even mentioned it, but I don't remember which interview. There's so many of them right now.

Thanks! I must have missed that in the spoilers.

[The Joker_1000]

I was just thinking, since she didn't know about super-hearing, does that also mean she has no knowledge of heat vision or super-breath?

[Prison Mike]

probably not. I think the only ones she was aware of were flight and super strength.

[The Joker_1000]

It'll be cool to see Clark teaching her how to use those powers. Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing her teach Clark how to fly.

[DeGenerate10]

Kara is a Superfox