The Amazing Spider-Man

[PhotoJones]

I have a dream where the consumers actually control the market. I want to believe. :(

[TheCorpulent1]

Haha, that ain't America, son.

[PhotoJones]

It should be. :(

[moraldeficiency]

I'm going to try and skew the market by standing outside the comic store and beating up anyone that buys ASM after OMD. Can't buy comics when you're bleeding from your eyes.

[PhotoJones]

I'm going to try and skew the market by standing outside the comic store and beating up anyone that buys ASM after OMD. Can't buy comics when you're bleeding from your eyes.

:heart:

[moraldeficiency]

That's the problem with most comic protests, too passive. If we want to do this right we need to get drunk and militant.

[PhotoJones]

That's the problem with most comic protests, too passive. If we want to do this right we need to get drunk and militant.

Drunk and militant is pretty much the best way to get anything done, if you ask me. :up:

[moraldeficiency]

Agreed.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm going to try and skew the market by standing outside the comic store and beating up anyone that buys ASM after OMD. Can't buy comics when you're bleeding from your eyes.
If they've already bought it, isn't it a little bit late to make your point?

[moraldeficiency]

It's more a point for others watching the vicious beating than for the person themselves.

[TheCorpulent1]

You should grab the issue out of their hands on the way to the cash register, roll it around a bat, and beat them into a bloody pulp with it. That way you keep Marvel from getting any money for it, you send a message to the others considering buying it, and you get to beat a guy senseless with a bat. Win/win/win, dude.

[PhotoJones]

Corp's a genius.

[moraldeficiency]

That's a good way to go as well, but I'd feel awful if that guy was just bringing the issue to the front to complain or if it was another of the faithful attempting to use it to beat someone's @ss. I'd rather wait till I'm sure the person is allying with the devil before I do something horrible to them.

[iloveclones]

I'm going to try and skew the market by standing outside the comic store and beating up anyone that buys ASM after OMD. Can't buy comics when you're bleeding from your eyes.


I have a subscription, so good luck with that. :yay:

I think I'll skew it by getting another for my nephew, and maybe one more for my bro. Truth is, I don't have to. OMD is selling like wheatcakes! :oldrazz:

[PhotoJones]

I hate wheatcakes?

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't know, do you?

[PhotoJones]

That's what I'm asking. :dry:

[TheCorpulent1]

Okay, yes, you do hate wheatcakes.

[PhotoJones]

Cool. Thanks. :up:

[TheCorpulent1]

You're welcome.

[PhotoJones]

I hate rice cakes?

[Norman Osborn]

I hate rice cakes?

No...Rice cakes are awesome...you love rice cakes...now pound cake is a different story

[PhotoJones]

Pound cake rules, dude. :o

[Norman Osborn]

Pound cake rules, dude. :o

yeah if you like butter mixed with blahhh!....I'm getting tubby just thinking about it :(

[moraldeficiency]

I have a subscription, so good luck with that. :yay:

I think I'll skew it by getting another for my nephew, and maybe one more for my bro. Truth is, I don't have to. OMD is selling like wheatcakes! :oldrazz:

sub buyers opinions and actions don't count. Didn't you get that memo?

[PhotoJones]

Especially if they subscribe to Wolverine: Origins. :o

[moraldeficiency]

Especially if they subscribe to Wolverine: Origins. :o

They should use that as a reference to screen which people can breed.

[iloveclones]

They should use that as a reference to screen which people can breed.

Oh, I can. I think you're asking whether I should.

[moraldeficiency]

Oh, I can. I think you're asking whether I should.

No, you just voiced your support for the worst thing to happen to pete since gwen the ****. I'm outright saying you SHOULD NOT breed. Unfortunately until I'm elected president on the dual platforms of hemp legalization and using chuck norris to resolve all further national conflicts, I can't force you not to breed. However considering your view on this, you're breeding partners just became extremely limited.

[Docker2.0]

So with OMD retconning the marriage, will he still have his new powers from the Other? And is this little girl Loki or Mephisto? I mean, Loki does owe Spidey for helping his daughter right?

[moraldeficiency]

all good questions none of which are really known except for the fact that's it's going to be crappy.

[Sloth7d]

So with OMD retconning the marriage, will he still have his new powers from the Other? And is this little girl Loki or Mephisto? I mean, Loki does owe Spidey for helping his daughter right?

Well, his powers from the Other were already sorta retconned. He can't use his stingers unless fighting Doctor Arrow(that thing that was produced by Pete being reborn) or whatever her name was, and she's dead now.

[TheCorpulent1]

Probably not Loki, since he's still dead. Unless OMD takes place in some nebulous future time period...

[Anubis]

Or Loki's been alive and on Earth before Thor came back.

[moraldeficiency]

If it's loki I'm especially pissed cause then it's my favorite villian @ucking over my favorite hero, it's just too much for my fragile psyche to handle.

[iloveclones]

No, you just voiced your support for the worst thing to happen to pete since gwen the ****. I'm outright saying you SHOULD NOT breed. Unfortunately until I'm elected president on the dual platforms of hemp legalization and using chuck norris to resolve all further national conflicts, I can't force you not to breed. However considering your view on this, you're breeding partners just became extremely limited.

Aren't you a touchy little 12-yr old?

[moraldeficiency]

Aren't you a touchy little 12-yr old?

I'm 12 and a half god@amnit!!!

[iloveclones]

Sorry...

[TheCorpulent1]

Or Loki's been alive and on Earth before Thor came back.
Kind of a huge spoiler to drop as a random part of a Spider-Man story if that's the case. I know I, as more of a Thor fan than a Spider-Man fan, would be upset about Loki's return not taking place in Thor's comic, just as I thought it was lame for Thor's return to take place in the FF comic when we thought that's what was going on at the time.

[PhotoJones]

JMS is weird that way.

[TheCorpulent1]

Eh, every writer continues stories from comic to comic that they're working on, it seems. Slott took Gauntlet from She-Hulk to the Initiative and still hasn't followed up on the suit of armor that Gauntlet and Southpaw's bits come from. Bendis carried Echo and Luke Cage over from DD to New Avengers, too. I guess I can't really fault JMS for doing the same with other story elements, but I don't like it in Thor's case. Loki is Thor territory and should be dealt with in Thor's comic, now that he's got one again. That's blatant fanboyism on my part, but I don't care; it's ****ing Thor. :cmad:

[PhotoJones]

I agree. When Slott does it, though, it feels more natural, or something. I don't know. When Bendis or JMS do it, I get a sense of ego instead of organic storytelling. That's probably just my bias against the two, though.

[moraldeficiency]

That's a good bias to have. I really don't think it'll be loki though.

[PhotoJones]

I only have good biases. :cool:

[TheCorpulent1]

I agree. When Slott does it, though, it feels more natural, or something. I don't know. When Bendis or JMS do it, I get a sense of ego instead of organic storytelling. That's probably just my bias against the two, though.
I get that feeling from Bendis. Not as much from JMS. I've never thought he had a huge ego, just that he had some really bad ideas that he was allowed to follow up on when he shouldn't have been.

[PhotoJones]

His ego was large enough to overshadow his common sense in realizing some of those ideas were bad. :o

[TheCorpulent1]

Even the meekest man has a bad idea now and then.

[PhotoJones]

Yes, and that meek man realizes his idea is bad and he scraps it before it's published and sold for $3 an issue.

[TheCorpulent1]

Or his editor does. Only editors who actually edit are a foreign concept at Marvel now. :o

[PhotoJones]

The editors are a different story. They have nothing to do with JMS' giant ego.

[moraldeficiency]

I only have good biases. :cool:

except for your gay love of nathan lane.

[PhotoJones]

That's not a bias, that's common sense. You're supposed to respect a talented man.

[moraldeficiency]

I do respect talented men, that's why I don't respect lane.

[PhotoJones]

If you don't think he's talented, no matter how you feel about his talents, you're an idiot. :o

[moraldeficiency]

If you'd just take your "I'm gay for Nathan Lane" colored glasses off for a moment you'd see the very clear absence of talent which he demonstrates.

[PhotoJones]

Idiot. :o

[moraldeficiency]

Ok, name me one movie with nathan lane in which his performance added (in a good way) to the movie. (and if you say birdcage, you invalidate everything you say after that)

[PhotoJones]

Um...The Lion King. Hello? Also, Love's Labour's Lost, The Producers and Nicholas Nickleby.

Oh, and The Birdcage. :o

[Anubis]

I liked him in Mouse Hunt.

[PhotoJones]

I never saw that. Now that I think about it, it seems like the writers of Ratatouille have some 'splainin' to do.

[Anubis]

I don't see how, seeing as Mouse Hunt was about two brothers trying to restore a house which was home to a mouse that musta been like, third cousins with the Gopher from Caddy Shack, and Ratatouille was about a dirty filthy rat cooking french cuisine for a spastic frog who enjoyed rat poop in his hair.

[moraldeficiency]

Um...The Lion King. Hello? Also, Love's Labour's Lost, The Producers and Nicholas Nickleby.

Oh, and The Birdcage. :o

I said that added to the good of the movie. In the lion king he was annoying at best. Loves Labour's Lost I did not see but based on the title it sucked, the producers is better without lane, didn't seeing nickleby. You had to go there with birdcage. When a robin williams acts circles around you and still seems to be a more subtle actor then you've got issues.

[PhotoJones]

Goddamn, you have bad opinions concerning Nathan Lane. What's with the deep hatred? Did he touch you as a child, or something?

I don't see how, seeing as Mouse Hunt was about two brothers trying to restore a house which was home to a mouse that musta been like, third cousins with the Gopher from Caddy Shack, and Ratatouille was about a dirty filthy rat cooking french cuisine for a spastic frog who enjoyed rat poop in his hair.

Yeah, I was just hudging by the movie poster. Reading the summary of it, though, it seems more like Caddyshack.

[Anubis]

Minus Chevy Chase when he was actually funny.

[PhotoJones]

I'll always like Chevy.

[iloveclones]

Nathan Lane is in the same category (to me) as Robin Williams and Jack Black. Kind of amusing the first time you see their routine, but grates on you the next couple thousand times you see them do the exact same thing.

[iloveclones]

I take that back. I never found Jack Black funny even accidentally.

[PhotoJones]

Robin Williams is a genius.

[Norman Osborn]

Robin Williams is a genius.

Agreed....

however Nathan Lane = Onion Rings......gets nauseating quickly!

[PhotoJones]

Philistines. All of you. :o

[Norman Osborn]

Philistines. All of you. :o

<----Nova Scotian

[PhotoJones]

So, you're a Canadian philistine. So what?

[iloveclones]

Robin Williams could be a genius, if he'd stop doing his "vague foreign accent" on coke routine.

[PhotoJones]

What's all this "routine" stuff? Have you ever seen Williams act?

[Norman Osborn]

What's all this "routine" stuff? Have you ever seen Williams act?

Robin Williams on Broadway was awesome.....his golf schtick made me pee/...a little

[PhotoJones]

Yes, his Broadway show was one of his better specials.

[iloveclones]

Yes, and when he drops the "routine", I think he's very good: Good Will Hunting, Dead Again (a very small, but great role), and Insomnia. All great jobs by him. But the rest of the crapola he churns out, just painful to watch.

I am joking a little bit about Williams. He's clearly had some great roles. But if I had to sit across the dinner table from him, I'd probably just kill myself instead.

[PhotoJones]

Yes, and when he drops the "routine", I think he's very good: Good Will Hunting, Dead Again (a very small, but great role), and Insomnia. All great jobs by him. But the rest of the crapola he churns out, just painful to watch.

So...Good Morning Vietnam, Dead Poets Society, Hook, Aladdin, One Hour Photo, The Final Cut and The Night Listener are all crapola?

[Anubis]

Plus, he's not as stingy with the coke like some other addicts in the industry seem to be. :o

[iloveclones]

So...Good Morning Vietnam, Dead Poets Society, Hook, Aladdin, One Hour Photo, The Final Cut and The Night Listener are all crapola?

No, but these are: RV, Man of the Year, Patch Adams, Flubber, Father's Day,Jack, Nine Months, Cadillac Man, Club paradise, The Best of Times, Moscow on the Hudson


Is this what were going to spend the rest of the day at, listing his filmology?

Hook and Aladdin don't count. They're kiddie movies, and frankly I thought Hook suuuuucked. (More for Tinkerbells whining than anything Williams did, but it was still stupid. Dustin Hoffman was the only good thing in that movie.) And I think Good Morning Vietnam is highly over-rated and actually a good example of his "schtick." The others I'll concede along with some I'd forgotten about: Awakenings and Fisher King.

I don't know why you're getting all bent. I've said he's done some good things. Are you seriously saying you liked Jack?

[PhotoJones]

Jack, Man of the Year and Moscow on the Hudson were good movies. And kiddie movies certainly count. Why wouldn't they? Lastly, every actor makes crappy movies. Find me one that doesn't.

[iloveclones]

They don't count because people act like you're beating a baby seal if you criticize them. Watch: Ferngully sucked.

Moscow had him doing one of the worst (and I'm including Red October Sean Connery here) Russian accents EVER. And the movie sucked.

[PhotoJones]

You just have bad taste, is all. I'm done.

[iloveclones]

Believe me, someone who actually admits watching Jack saying that I have bad taste makes my day in all kinds of different ways.

[PhotoJones]

Glad to be of service, philistine. :up:

[KangConquers]

Flubber was definitely a crappy movie.

[iloveclones]

Didn't really intend on picking a fight, pj.

Have a nice weekend. (I hear they're running a sale on Toys at Best Buy. Great Movie. Check it out. ;) )

[Norman Osborn]

Glad to be of service, philistine. :up:

Am I a philistine?

http://reverent.org/true_art_or_fake_art.html

...I got 92% so apparently I am :(

[iloveclones]

I got 75%, but I took it in about 5 seconds. If I would've taken time to think about it, I'm sure it would have been much lower.

[PhotoJones]

Flubber was definitely a crappy movie.

Yes, Flubber was bad.

Am I a philistine?

http://reverent.org/true_art_or_fake_art.html

...I got 92% so apparently I am :(

Haha. I got a 100%. :up:

[Norman Osborn]

I got 75%, but I took it in about 5 seconds. If I would've taken time to think about it, I'm sure it would have been much lower.

wow...you're more philistine than I?...I got the first one wrong...I swear that exact thing is hanging on my refrigerator from my son's grade 1 art fair!!

[Norman Osborn]

Yes, Flubber was bad.



Haha. I got a 100%. :up:

Only the 1st attempt counts!:dry:

[PhotoJones]

Only the 1st attempt counts!:dry:

I only did it once. :confused:

[Norman Osborn]

I only did it once. :confused:

<stewie griffin>whatever helps you sleep at night *****</stewie griffin>

[PhotoJones]

Dude, I was a fine arts/art history major. I recognized all of the "real" pieces except for one. :o

[Norman Osborn]

Dude, I was a fine arts/art history major. I recognized all of the "real" pieces except for one. :o

The first one right?

[Anubis]

I got a 67. With the crap some people put on a canvas and call art, who can tell the difference?

[Norman Osborn]

I got a 67. With the crap some people put on a canvas and call art, who can tell the difference?

PhotoJones2....

[TheCorpulent1]

I got a 67%. I recognized all but one of the true art pieces, but I only minored in art history, so I assumed the ones I didn't recognize were true art, too. :(

[PhotoJones]

The first one right?

Yep. I assumed it was a real piece, I just didn't recognize it.

[TheCorpulent1]

Heh, that's the one I didn't recognize, too. Apparently none of us are big Klee fans. :o

[PhotoJones]

Even knowing that Klee was the artist, it still doesn't ring any bells.

[TheCorpulent1]

Same for me. I think I've seen maybe two Klee pieces in my life.

[PhotoJones]

He's done some stuff that I've liked. Wikipedia tells me the name to one of them is Angelus Novus. :up:

[iloveclones]

Ha, I feel better already. My major in college didn't allow for any Humanities and good stuff like that. So I got my 75% on pure instinct! (Or, as I like to call it, even a blind squirrel finds the nut 75% of the time.)

[TheCorpulent1]

He's done some stuff that I've liked. Wikipedia tells me the name to one of them is Angelus Novus. :up:
I wasn't particularly partial to the few things I've seen of his, but they weren't bad. I think I only learned about him in the context of his teaching at the Bauhaus.

[PhotoJones]

Ha, I feel better already. My major in college didn't allow for any Humanities and good stuff like that. So I got my 75% on pure instinct! (Or, as I like to call it, even a blind squirrel finds the nut 75% of the time.)

What the hell piece of **** college did you go to?

[Norman Osborn]

Ha, I feel better already. My major in college didn't allow for any Humanities and good stuff like that. So I got my 75% on pure instinct! (Or, as I like to call it, even a blind squirrel finds the nut 75% of the time.)

Hey I was a Business Major and got 92% :wow: .....a freaking Art Major beat me by 1!!......and I still say this Klee guy was 8 when he drew those freaking stick figures!!! :whatever:

[iloveclones]

It wasn't the college (Penn State) it was the major, Chem Eng. They loaded you so up with engineering classes, and then gave you crappy choices for electives. I did take a cool history class, and Music Composition, but not much beyond that. I was so sick of my regular classes, I think I was the only person actually enjoying the Phys Ed requirements :O

[TheCorpulent1]

There are colleges with physical education requirements? :confused:

[PhotoJones]

It wasn't the college (Penn State) it was the major, Chem Eng. They loaded you so up with engineering classes, and then gave you crappy choices for electives. I did take a cool history class, and Music Composition, but not much beyond that. I was so sick of my regular classes, I think I was the only person actually enjoying the Phys Ed requirements :O

Ah, so you're smart, basically. I was never interested in science as a profession, but I have seem the programs and majors at my school and the classes are ridiculous. I would've dropped out my first day.

[Norman Osborn]

There are colleges with physical education requirements? :confused:

the freaking high schools in my home town don't even have a PE requirement :whatever:

[iloveclones]

There are colleges with physical education requirements? :confused:

I'm going to regret doing this, but here are the gym classes I took:

Raquetball (the only manly one)
Downhill Skiing
Ballroom Dancing (I and II :O )
Figure Skating ( :O :O :O )

And smart? I never said I aced the classes. Survived would be a better term. Remember in college, when you were getting an early start on the weekend, and, on the way to the bar Thursday Night, you wondered who was that poor sap heading to the library. That would've been me. The only guy selling plasma for comics and not beer...

[PhotoJones]

Figure skating?

[Norman Osborn]

I'm going to regret doing this, but here are the gym classes I took:

Ballroom Dancing (I and II :O )
...

You're a brave man...not for admitting taking ballroom...but admitting you liked it so much you took it again!!:o

[Anubis]

I didn't even finish collage.

[iloveclones]

I kicked ass in that one. (And believe it or not, it translated to my hockey skills absolutely ZILCH )

[Norman Osborn]

Figure skating?

meh...I took figure skating.....my hockey coach required it

[PhotoJones]

Hockey?

[Norman Osborn]

Hockey?

long sticks....rubber projectile...skates...nets??

[PhotoJones]

Oh, I know what it is.

[TheCorpulent1]

I didn't even finish collage.
You should get back to it. An unfinished collage is a terrible thing. :(

[Anubis]

I was hoping somebody would catch that.

[dan1]

:whatever: :whatever: :whatever: :whatever: :whatever: :whatever: :whatever:

[TheCorpulent1]

Nice. :up:

[PhotoJones]

What's sad is that it's far from being just "one more". :(

[Darthphere]

http://www.newsarama.com/general/JunotDIaz/SpiderMansWorldAboutToChange.jpg

[SouLeSS]

Hahah, Daredevil. Yeah right.

[uchiha_itachi]

whos the blonde girl?

[Anubis]

Valkyrie and Gwen Stacy's kid.

[PhotoJones]

Where'd that come from?

[SouLeSS]

More like "One More Delay!"

[Upset Spideyfan]

Where'd that come from?

The same place they pulled that Hulk's hit list a while back from.

[PhotoJones]

I just want this whole crappy story to be over so Pete and MJ can live happily ever after.

[Upset Spideyfan]

Joe Q hates you.

[TheCorpulent1]

Maybe they delayed it so that the thrice-monthly ASM run could start in January. It'd be stupid, but it wouldn't surprise me.

[PhotoJones]

What would that accomplish? It's probably delayed because Joe's still drawing it. Cebulski said as much last Friday.

[TheCorpulent1]

It would accomplish making the 3x ASM thing all 2008ish? I said it would be stupid.

[PhotoJones]

That's retarded. It's being delayed because it's not finished.

[Doc Destruction]

It's delayed???

SHOCKING!!!

[Doc Destruction]

Oh, and btw...there's Loki, just like many of us had guessed.

[TheCorpulent1]

That's retarded. It's being delayed because it's not finished.
That's so boring, though.

Ooh, hey, what if it was delayed to coincide with Thor? The only person on that picture who could do the magic necessary and who would demand a price like love is Loki, so maybe JMS planned for the two comics to kinda sorta crossover by having Loki reappear in ASM? Also lame, but maybe a bit more plausible.

[Red]

Doesn't Loki owe Spidey a favor or something.

[Upset Spideyfan]

I wouldn't invest too much into this. Like I said, remember the Hulk hit list cover for Frontline?

[PhotoJones]

That's so boring, though.

Ooh, hey, what if it was delayed to coincide with Thor? The only person on that picture who could do the magic necessary and who would demand a price like love is Loki, so maybe JMS planned for the two comics to kinda sorta crossover by having Loki reappear in ASM? Also lame, but maybe a bit more plausible.

Or, it's the real reason: Joe's not finished with it. :dry:

[BrianWilly]

...Valkyrie? What?

[Kitsune]

Where'd that come from?

A really bad storyline called sins past.

[Kitsune]

Doesn't Loki owe Spidey a favor or something.

Yes he does, and I think he's going to be the one to help Peter.

[Doc Destruction]

...Valkyrie? What?

Well, she is involved with Death, so maybe Loki makes her help Spidey to repay him?

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm still not down with Loki and Valkyrie just magically being alive and in their godly forms again in ASM before they're ever mentioned in Thor. Plus, if Loki and Valkyrie are involved, I'll probably wind up buying OMD, which I didn't want to do.

[PhotoJones]

I'm still not down with Loki and Valkyrie just magically being alive and in their godly forms again in ASM before they're ever mentioned in Thor. Plus, if Loki and Valkyrie are involved, I'll probably wind up buying OMD, which I didn't want to do.

Couple things. One, be strong. You don't have to buy OMD. Don't do it. Second, I'm starting to think that maybe you're right about Thor/OMD being delayed to tie into each other. Maybe not a tie-in per se, but if JMS wants to use Loki in OMD, he's going to have to bring him back in Thor.

[Doc Destruction]

Corp and I have been saying Loki for months now. It's the only thing that makes sense.

[TheCorpulent1]

Couple things. One, be strong. You don't have to buy OMD. Don't do it. Second, I'm starting to think that maybe you're right about Thor/OMD being delayed to tie into each other. Maybe not a tie-in per se, but if JMS wants to use Loki in OMD, he's going to have to bring him back in Thor.
I don't know, man. If it's Loki... it's Loki. I gotta see him because the 2-year loss of Thor and now all the constant delays have got me fiending like a crack whore. :(

[PhotoJones]

I don't know, man. If it's Loki... it's Loki. I gotta see him because the 2-year loss of Thor and now all the constant delays have got me fiending like a crack whore. :(

It didn't take long to start making excuses, did it? :down

[Darthphere]

You guys are stupid, it's going to be Daredevil of course.

[Norman Osborn]

You guys are stupid, it's going to be Daredevil of course.

Just a thought....anyone consider that perhaps the Gwen pic is actually a pic of Sarah? (yeah I know the art style screams Gwen) and Pete attempts to use her Goblin serum laced blood to save Aunt May??...(Yes I know her blood has the effect of accelerated aging but that's a continuity issue and Marvel doesn't care about continuity)

[Darthphere]

I think you need to put down the crackpipe.

[Norman Osborn]

I think you need to put down the crackpipe.

...that could solve some of my problems....in theory!

[PhotoJones]

Edit: Nm.

[Kraven]

Just a thought....anyone consider that perhaps the Gwen pic is actually a pic of Sarah? (yeah I know the art style screams Gwen) and Pete attempts to use her Goblin serum laced blood to save Aunt May??...(Yes I know her blood has the effect of accelerated aging but that's a continuity issue and Marvel doesn't care about continuity)

I'm pretty sure it's Gwen. That picture of her was taken straight out of the SSM annual, I think.

EDIT: Never mind, a second look at the artwork has me thinking I'm wrong.

[PhotoJones]

Marvel released "The Top Secret Amazing Spider-Man 2008 Bible." Now decode it, you *****es.

Peter’s ******* ******* *********** *** ************ unmasked during the Civil War, ****************************** *****************. They know he unmasked – ********* ****************************** * **** ****New Avengers, ***** ******* NO. ONE.

“MJ has ******************** ****** ******* ************** Peter and Mary Jane ***** ****** married. For as-of-yet******* reasons, ********** ***** ************ MJ ****** ****************************** ****************************** ********

“Aunt May is*********** ****** **** ******* ********** **** ***** ******************** ******************************
*********

“****** Osborn ******* **** ************************** ******************** ******* psychotic killer ********* ********** super villain can be.

The shipping list for Brand New Day was also released:

Month #1 (#546-#548)
[new shipping dates - 01/9, 01/16, 01/23]
Script by Dan Slott
Pencils by Steve McNiven
Inks by Dexter Vines
Color by Morry Hollowell

Month #2 (#549-#551)
[new shipping dates - 02/6, 02/13, 02/20]
Script by Marc Guggenheim
Pencils & Inks by Salvador Larocca
Color by Jason Keith

Month #3 (#552-#554)
Script by Bob Gale
Pencils by Phil Jimenez
Inks by Andy Lanning
Color by Jeromy Cox

Month #4 (#555-#557)
Script by Zeb Wells
Pencils by Chris Bachalo
Inks by Tim Townsend
Color by Antonio Fabela

And finally, following the link, there's information as to who the new supporting cast will be.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=135696

[Kraven]

Not sure if this is just guesswork on my part or what, but I think that the third part of OMD has been delayed again. It's not listed at marvel.com for this week, or at Midtown comics, but the Diamond List does have it listed. I don't have any source or anything, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was.

[jaydawg]

Corp and I have been saying Loki for months now. It's the only thing that makes sense.

EVERYONE has been saying Loki since the initial unmasking. :o

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

Well, the BIG SECRET is that the "Gwen" that had sex with Norman was really a shape-changed Howard the Duck, who, thinking that Gwen and Norman dated, just went along so as not to arouse suspicion...

The REAL reason for the accelerated growth is because they're half mallard and they aren't around right now due to migration.

And THAT is a better ret-con than you will EVER get from Marvel. ;)

[Blader5489]

Not sure if this is just guesswork on my part or what, but I think that the third part of OMD has been delayed again. It's not listed at marvel.com for this week, or at Midtown comics, but the Diamond List does have it listed. I don't have any source or anything, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was.

It's not delayed. It's on both the diamond list and the Marvel.com catalog.

[farmernudie]

Maybe the retcon will be that Gwen will still be alive and will save Aunt May, and that the Gwen we thought who died was really the a goblin-aged daughter that time travelled to the past to protect the "gwen in hiding" only to get killed by her father in that classic, thinking it was her....

And maybe the real Gwen never really slept with Norman...Maybe that too was a quickly aged gwen daughter who time travelled to the past to keep her mom from ever sleeping with Norman and slept with him in her place. That way, her mom would be herself and Gwen was never a tramp, or dead?

:oldrazz:

Uh...yeh...i guess i don't see how Gwen could save everyone afterall. Nice of them to throw her pic in for the fun of it...:whatever: ...bringing Gwen back somehow would be NOT COOL.

[TheCorpulent1]

No, it wouldn't. Of more consequence, however, is the fact that it would run counter to Marvel's own goals with OMD, which are to end Peter and MJ's marriage and to return Peter to bachelor status so he can get back that holy grail of juggling hos, which Joe Q, Tom Brevoort, Mark Waid, and various other Marvel people have somehow come to believe is the secret to Spider-Man's reinvigoration.

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

Yeah... God forbid "write good stories" be the secret!

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, they do seem to be doing that, too. They've got a pretty awe-inspiring array of talent lined up for the post-OMD comics. I unfortunately won't be reading their work until Peter and MJ are back together. :up:

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

I'm gonna try Slott.
Going this long (since SP) without buying Spidey... I just feel like I'm missing something...

[TheCorpulent1]

Eh, I'm sure it'll sell well no matter what we do. My boycott is more a personal thing because I wouldn't feel right about buying ASM when they've basically discarded MJ and her history with Pete like so much dirty laundry.

[JackRembrandt]

I'm wondering if this isn't a direction change at all and instead is just a storyline in which Peter and MJ's love is strong enough to find a way through whatever magical mumbo jumbo will try to erase it. I wouldn't be surprised if they're still married this time next year.

[TheCorpulent1]

If that's the case, I look forward to reading ASM with the new teams in a year. I might even grab the back-issues and see what led up to their "remarriage." But that'll be after they're back together.

[JackRembrandt]

I didn't necessarily mean remarriage in the sense that they would find each other and fall in love "for the first time". I meant being able to will themselves past they mindwipe, or just find a way to reverse it's effects.

[TheCorpulent1]

I meant however they get back together. Doesn't matter how, although having their memories back would be preferable.

[JackRembrandt]

It matters to me. I'm not interested in rereading the developing love between Peter and MJ. It was done perfectly the first time. They're already in love. Marvel can take a break from it with this story if they'd like, as long as it returns fully intact the way it was (if not more) before.

[farmernudie]

Yeh, after all of the years and JQ tirades against the marriage....any storyline does NOT feel like a STORY if it involves breaking up the marriage in any way.

It feels like an AGENDA...and he is sucking the fun outta the comics that way.

JQ with his strong overly spoken anti-marriage stance has almost made spidey comics political in a sense and not very amusing to read.

[TheCorpulent1]

I agree 100%. It's not just JQ's agenda, but it's definitely an agenda rather than an actual worthwhile story. Most retcons are, especially on this scale.

[PhotoJones]

But he's doing it out of love for the characters. :o

[roach]

much in the same way an abusive husband loves his wife...that doesnt stop him from doing the wrong thing

[TheCorpulent1]

But if he doesn't beat her, how will she know when she's doing something that makes him not love her? :confused:

[PhotoJones]

The answer, Corp, is that there is no other way to show her that she's doing something wrong.

[Darthphere]

I love you guys.

[Doc Destruction]

Corp and I have been saying Loki for months now. It's the only thing that makes sense.

So I was wrong, which only proves that Corp and I would make better writers than JMS. But we knew that.

[iloveclones]

I was thinking Loki, too. Now, I'm thinking they're leaving Loki as a back-door out of this.

[TheCorpulent1]

Maybe Loki shapeshifted into Mephisto's form after dying in Ragnarok. Who's heard anything out of Mephisto for the past 3 or 4 years anyway?

[PhotoJones]

If Mephisto turns out to actually be Loki, I don't know if that would make the story or worse.

[TheCorpulent1]

Worse for me. The story's still got the retcon at its core, which is the part that sucks, and now Thor's main nemesis returns outside of Thor's comic. That's double-****ed.

[PhotoJones]

Yeah, but I thought you were all for any sort of Thor-related appearance, no matter how or where it happens.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'd prefer it in Thor's comic. Beyond that, I'd prefer it in just about any other comic besides OMD, since I might actually be tempted to buy OMD if Loki were in it. Real tempted. And then I'd hate myself more than usual.

[PhotoJones]

You weak bastard.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'd try not to give in.

[PhotoJones]

You know you would, though.

[TheCorpulent1]

Possibly. But we'll never know unless Mephisto suddenly turns into a prancing god in green and yellow, now will we?

[PhotoJones]

Make it so, Marvel.

[roach]

It'll be retconned in that Mephisto was secretly behind all the big marriage break ups in the Marvel Universe....Scott and Jean, Alex and Lorna almost getting married, Logan and Mariko, Hank and Janet

[Xofenroht]

Was he behind giving Spidey stingers too?

[TheCorpulent1]

Probably. And MJ's smoking and grinding on random men just before the Clone Saga, too.

[PhotoJones]

Quesada? He didn't have anything to do with anything before the Clone Saga. :confused:

[TheCorpulent1]

Mephisto, dude.

[PhotoJones]

How was he behind The Other garbage? Or pre-Clone Saga garbage? :confused:

[Anubis]

Magic Time travel.

[PhotoJones]

In other words: Retardation.

[Darthphere]

Someone stop Hitch from unnecessary shading.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=138875

[PhotoJones]

Is that not the exact same pose he drew for the ASM Iron Spidey cover? :confused:

[Darthphere]

I don't know, but the shading, the shading!

[PhotoJones]

Hitch needs to stop shading like Finch needs to stop crosshatching.

[Darthphere]

What if Finch started shading and Hitch started crosshatching?

[yenaled]

Spidey has Ricketts again.

[PhotoJones]

What if Finch started shading and Hitch started crosshatching?

The world would end?

[Darthphere]

Jim Lee would probably kill them both.

[PhotoJones]

Jim Lee is a killer.

[Darthphere]

Yeah he killed the X-Men franchise when he left. :( :huh:

[PhotoJones]

Bump and set. :up:

[LouFerignoDemon]

But Dodge, I thought we all agreed shading under a direct light source was pure awesome. :o

[TheCorpulent1]

Is that not the exact same pose he drew for the ASM Iron Spidey cover? :confused:
Looks the same to me, only zoomed out a bit more.

As for the shading, maybe the colorist ****ed up the sky. Maybe it was supposed to be dark blue and that was supposed to be a night scene. As it is, it's broad daylight with a yellow sky, inexplicable shadows all over Spider-Man, and all of the lights in the scene glowing away indiscriminately. Somebody ****ed something up there.

[PhotoJones]

Blame Hitch. :o

[Darthphere]

The CW cover has the arms reversed.

[TheCorpulent1]

Dang, Hitch is rocking the creativity. :up:

[LouFerignoDemon]

Sounds like a call for a keggar celebration.

[PhotoJones]

Why is Hitch getting worse with time?

[Darthphere]

Why is Hitch getting worse with time?

Honestly. I suspect he really doesn't care anymore.

[PhotoJones]

That may be it. Maybe this is his "experimental" phase?

[Anubis]

Screw the shading, he needs to go back and fix that leg.

[TheCorpulent1]

Maybe he's rushing so he doesn't take thirty years to finish his next project. :o

[PhotoJones]

Am I the only one who doesn't have a problem with the legs?

[LouFerignoDemon]

You might once you get past the shading.

[TheCorpulent1]

Am I the only one who doesn't have a problem with the legs?
They seem all right to me. The foreshortening on the one to our left could be a little off, but it's not hugely noticeable to me or anything.

[PhotoJones]

The more I look at it, the more it looks to me like the colorist ****ed up.

[Darthphere]

In the Brand New Day era, the sky is green.

[TheCorpulent1]

The more I look at it, the more it looks to me like the colorist ****ed up.
The sky just needs to be dark, right? The whole picture would make sense if the sky weren't bright yellow.

[PhotoJones]

The sky just needs to be dark, right? The whole picture would make sense if the sky weren't bright yellow.

The sky needs to be dark, and the entire background needs to be darker, I think.

[Anubis]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/Marvel%20II/ASM546.jpg

Seriously, the leg looks gnarled or something. Like this chick with a club foot I used to mess with.

[TheCorpulent1]

The sky needs to be dark, and the entire background needs to be darker, I think.
Give Hitch a pen for another ten seconds and the latter problem would be solved, I suspect.

[PhotoJones]

The reflections off the wet streets and all the neon signs suggest a night shot. The colorist is retarded.

[Upset Spideyfan]

Looks to me like he just reused a cover he did for Spider-Man's Civil War tie-in, bad leg and all.

[TheCorpulent1]

Another annoying nit-pick: Why is Peter's left (our right) hand in the webshooting pose? He's letting go of an existing webline with that hand, not shooting a new one. I hate when artists just put both of his hands in that pose for no logical reason.

[PhotoJones]

Looks to me like he just reused a cover he did for Spider-Man's Civil War tie-in, bad leg and all.

Oh, no doubt. But, the colorist ****ed up.

[Upset Spideyfan]

It was a group effort.

[PhotoJones]

Another annoying nit-pick: Why is Peter's left (our right) hand in the webshooting pose? He's letting go of an existing webline with that hand, not shooting a new one. I hate when artists just put both of his hands in that pose for no logical reason.

I don't about the left hand, but why is the right hand about to shoot some webs into the ground?

[Upset Spideyfan]

This is seriously one of the worst covers in a long time. There's anatomical mistakes, there's coloring mistakes, and to top it off its pretty much a cut and paste.

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't about the left hand, but why is the right hand about to shoot some webs into the ground?
Because Peter's a fan of falling on his ass.

[PhotoJones]

A've noticed a lot of Hitch's recent covers suck. His Giant-Size Avengers cover is disgusting.

[Upset Spideyfan]

A've noticed a lot of Hitch's recent covers suck. His Giant-Size Avengers cover is disgusting.

That was pretty terrible, I didn't even recognize it as Hitch as first.

Maybe all the flack he took for delaying the Ultimates half a dozen months or so has ruined his confidence and by extension his art. :csad: Poor Hitch.

[TheCorpulent1]

A've noticed a lot of Hitch's recent covers suck. His Giant-Size Avengers cover is disgusting.
That one went in the opposite direction on shading. It looked like he got bored and quit halfway through, rather than overloading his figures with smudges everywhere.

[PhotoJones]

That was pretty terrible, I didn't even recognize it as Hitch as first.

Maybe all the flack he took for delaying the Ultimates half a dozen months or so has ruined his confidence and by extension his art. Poor Hitch.

Hitch has more money then me, and therefore, I'm not capable of feeling bad for him. :o

[Upset Spideyfan]

That one went in the opposite direction on shading. It looked like he got bored and quit halfway through, rather than overloading his figures with smudges everywhere.

The Hitch creative process.

http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/49/54/23475449.jpg

[TheCorpulent1]

... times 3 months.

[PhotoJones]

I don't get it. He's drunk? :confused:

[Upset Spideyfan]

He's sleeping on the job.