Jenna Jameson is fantasy gone horribly wrong

[terry78]

http://www.ew.com/ew/inspirations/video/player/0,,20071478,00.html
http://news.softpedia.com/images/news2/Jenna-Jameson-Defends-Her-039-Honor-039-on-MySpace-2.jpg
http://images.askmen.com/galleries/other/Events/2b-free-fall-2007-collection-arrivals/pictures/2b-free-fall-2007-collection-arrivals-picture-1.jpg
http://www.javno.com/slike/slike_3/r1/g2007/m04/x35136327990997730.jpg


She scares me. Honestly. She's like an example of a live action version of a CG mannequin designed by Rob Liefeld and created by Issac Asimov. Doesn't even look remotely humanoid anymore. And I used to be all about the Jenna. That last picture literally looks like one of those women that were the staple of 1990's comics.

[AndThePickles]

She managed to stay drug free for so long....looks like she's relapsed :csad:

[Catman]

She is Pickles' hero so don't talk bad about her! :cmad:

[AndThePickles]

Very funny Catman.

[Catman]

Very funny Catman.

remember to tip your waitress

[Fran]

Catman, you're stupid. :up:

[Telekinetic]

she looks gross:o

[Catman]

Catman, you're stupid. :up:

And you're fat. No one's perfect! :up:

[Omega Red]

She is Pickles' hero so don't talk bad about her! :cmad:


Sorry Tito Ortiz had that. Its tainted now!!!!

[AndThePickles]

Stupid Tito

[keith_v]

She kind of looks like a guy now.

[Fran]

And you're fat. No one's perfect! :up:

No, not really. :huh:

At least I'm not obsessed with Spoons and Pickles. You're like JAL.

[Telekinetic]

She kind of looks like a guy now.

lol yeah she does

and she has a fish face with those lips

[Shuley]

She looks terrible...least she has her oral skills...

[The Shredder]

Well clearly her peak has come and gone. But it had to happen sooner or later. However, her appearance is still very much akin to what you would see with other, but certainly not all, pornstars these days.

[terry78]

Well, the porn industry is built on looking like that, but there are some porno actresses in existence that look pretty...normal. Their ****ing skills are just that good they don't need to enhance anything. Annie Cruz for instance, who could eat a banana without chewing, if you catch my drift.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Annie_Cruz,_2007.JPG/499px-Annie_Cruz,_2007.JPG

[The Shredder]

Well, the porn industry is built on looking like that, but there are some porno actresses in existence that look pretty...normal. Their ****ing skills are just that good they don't need to enhance anything. Annie Cruz for instance, who could eat a banana without chewing, if you catch my drift.

That's exactly why I said that Jenna's present appearance is very much akin to what one would see with alot of other pornstars you see around these days, but certainly not all of them. As far as other performer's simply just being attractive with no need to enhance anything ... you're preaching to the choir. As Christy Canyon will always be absolute fav of all time. :yay:

[SoulManX]

http://www.ew.com/ew/inspirations/video/player/0,,20071478,00.html
http://news.softpedia.com/images/news2/Jenna-Jameson-Defends-Her-039-Honor-039-on-MySpace-2.jpg
http://images.askmen.com/galleries/other/Events/2b-free-fall-2007-collection-arrivals/pictures/2b-free-fall-2007-collection-arrivals-picture-1.jpg
http://www.javno.com/slike/slike_3/r1/g2007/m04/x35136327990997730.jpg


She scares me. Honestly. She's like an example of a live action version of a CG mannequin designed by Rob Liefeld and created by Issac Asimov. Doesn't even look remotely humanoid anymore. And I used to be all about the Jenna. That last picture literally looks like one of those women that were the staple of 1990's comics.

:csad::dry:

[SoulManX]

http://www.tmz.com/2007/07/25/jenna-jameson-sword-swallowing-swordfighter/

[SoulManX]

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/4601/271505389442lvt9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[November Rain]

she looks like a real life ivy from soul calibur

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6491/4mwkrkgpe8.jpg

[Sava]

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/4601/271505389442lvt9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

jesus f**kin christ :eek: :down:

[SoulManX]

jesus f**kin christ :eek: :down:

I know big change:csad:

[Superman_]

Yes there is a huge change in her looks.

[PyroChamber]

Oh God, she's starting to look like Joan Rivers.

[Superman_]

In that picture with her in the yellow dress; her head looks to small for her body.

[Jolie_Desastre]

she used to be pretty and have a cute petite figure .....

why? :(

[Kritish]

http://www.ew.com/ew/inspirations/video/player/0,,20071478,00.html
http://news.softpedia.com/images/news2/Jenna-Jameson-Defends-Her-039-Honor-039-on-MySpace-2.jpg
http://images.askmen.com/galleries/other/Events/2b-free-fall-2007-collection-arrivals/pictures/2b-free-fall-2007-collection-arrivals-picture-1.jpg
http://www.javno.com/slike/slike_3/r1/g2007/m04/x35136327990997730.jpg


She scares me. Honestly. She's like an example of a live action version of a CG mannequin designed by Rob Liefeld and created by Issac Asimov. Doesn't even look remotely humanoid anymore. And I used to be all about the Jenna. That last picture literally looks like one of those women that were the staple of 1990's comics.

I'd still hit it, but I might double bag my groceries. :up:

Well, the porn industry is built on looking like that, but there are some porno actresses in existence that look pretty...normal. Their ****ing skills are just that good they don't need to enhance anything. Annie Cruz for instance, who could eat a banana without chewing, if you catch my drift.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Annie_Cruz,_2007.JPG/499px-Annie_Cruz,_2007.JPG


ditto :up:

[Shuley]

she used to be pretty and have a cute petite figure .....

why? :(

lol been watchin her movies?

[Kritish]

http://www.ew.com/ew/inspirations/video/player/0,,20071478,00.html
She scares me. Honestly. She's like an example of a live action version of a CG mannequin designed by Rob Liefeld and created by Issac Asimov. Doesn't even look remotely humanoid anymore. And I used to be all about the Jenna. That last picture literally looks like one of those women that were the staple of 1990's comics.

Now see, I don't know why that's supposed to be an insult. I've always had a bit of a fantasy about Fembots. I'm sure that most of the people on this sit know what I mean. :o

[jaguarr]

Folks, let this be a lesson to you; this is what happens when you date Tito Ortiz.

jag

[Spidey Lover 10]

Lllllllllllllmmmmmmmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaoo oooooooooooooooooo!!!

[zanos]

How strange that she's done this to herself after she's been out of porn for so long. Most girls do it to stay in porn after a certain age.

[Jolie_Desastre]

lol been watchin her movies?

.....

yes:o

[AndThePickles]

she used to be pretty and have a cute petite figure .....

why? :(

How strange that she's done this to herself after she's been out of porn for so long. Most girls do it to stay in porn after a certain age.

I'm tellin you, it's gotta be drugs. She's had problems with extreme drug use since she was a teenager. She was clean for years but then I guess dating Tito drove her over the edge :csad:

[Jolie_Desastre]

I'm tellin you, it's gotta be drugs. She's had problems with extreme drug use since she was a teenager. She was clean for years but then I guess dating Tito drove her over the edge :csad:

man i hope not, damn tito :mad:

[Shuley]

.....

yes:o
I'm waiting on the Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt Sex tape to come out...lol.

[Jolie_Desastre]

I'm waiting on the Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt Sex tape to come out...lol.


hearing a lot of interviews with angelina about sex...i'm assuming it'd be one hell of a sex tape.

[GoldenAgeHero]

.....

yes:o


....:wow: we should watch together.

[Golgo-13]

I feel bad for her. What makes celebs do this? On all these talks show's i've seen her on in the past, she seems so confident, and always preaches abour self esteem for woman; looks like it was all a roose.

I wonder how Tito Ortiz feels about the change..?

[jaguarr]

I feel bad for her. What makes celebs do this? On all these talks show's i've seen her on in the past, she seems so confident, and always preaches abour self esteem for woman; looks like it was all a roose.

I wonder how Tito Ortiz feels about the change..?

I could swear I read somewhere that Tito's got her working out like seven hours a day and on a very strict nutritional plan, so I'd say he's responsible for this change with her. I don't think it's drugs, I think it's an extreme exercise and nutrition plan addiction that he's gotten her hooked on. People with addictive personalities like her tend to go horribly overboard with many things, and exercise and body sculpting can certainly fall into that category if people aren't careful about it and keeping a balanced perspective.

jag

[Jolie_Desastre]

....:wow: we should watch together.

i must warn u...my taste is quite....interesting....

[Shuley]

i must warn u...my taste is quite....interesting....
chicks with guys,chicks with chicks,guys with guys...you love it all huh? :oldrazz:

[Jolie_Desastre]

chicks with guys,chicks with chicks,guys with guys...you love it all huh? :oldrazz:

not all...some fetish pornos scare the crap outta me :dry:

[The Shredder]

not all...some fetish pornos scare the crap outta me :dry:
Yeah, I definately know where you are coming from on that one.

[Jolie_Desastre]

Yeah, I definately know where you are coming from on that one.

sorry u had to see that then..or anyone...

u know except the people that get off on that stuff ..then i guess..good for u guys :huh:

[The Shredder]

sorry u had to see that then..or anyone...

u know except the people that get off on that stuff ..then i guess..good for u guys :huh:
Yes, it's quite amazing to me (and you as well I would imagine) the kind of stuff some people can get off on. But like always, to each their own. :o

[Jolie_Desastre]

Yes, it's quite amazing to me (and you as well I would imagine) the kind of stuff some people can get off on. But like always, to each their own. :o

yeah it's just like wow, i didn't know they could do that...and it be legal, but what i think is pretty nice usually grosses some people out anyway.

the things that are just not...u know...to my likings are animal porn, defocating, golden shower, and stuff with toilet seats.(yes, they have that kind now)

torture porn has also gone a bit over board...too many metal things.....:dry:

[The Shredder]

yeah it's just like wow, i didn't know they could do that...and it be legal, but what i think is pretty nice usually grosses some people out anyway.

the things that are just not...u know...to my likings are animal porn, defocating, golden shower, and stuff with toilet seats.(yes, they have that kind now)

torture porn has also gone a bit over board...too many metal things.....:dry:
Amen, and Amen.

You and me definately see eye to eye on stuff like that. As those kind of "fetishes" do absolutely nothing for me. And to be quite honest, is essentially more of a turn off, than anything else. However there are those with the kind of .. hmmm ... mindset that can enjoy watching stuff like that. And more power to them. But it does make you wonder when/where the next step will be taken.

[Jolie_Desastre]

Amen, and Amen.

You and me definately see eye to eye on stuff like that. As those kind of "fetishes" do absolutely nothing for me. And to be quite honest, is essentially more of a turn off, than anything else. However there are those with the kind of .. hmmm ... mindset that can enjoy watching stuff like that. And more power to them. But it does make you wonder when/where the next step will be taken.

yeah, these days it's gonna get harder and harder to come up with new material, so they will just go the next step with what's out there.

[Docker2.0]

Not into that animal and violent sex but I do like to be dominated......and like my porn with women commanding the man. Dominatrix, leather........yep! Thatd be me. :o Does that make me a bad person? :(

[jaguarr]

Not into that animal and violent sex but I do like to be dominated......and like my porn with women commanding the man. Dominatrix, leather........yep! Thatd be me. :o Does that make me a bad person? :(

Nahhh, just means you've got particular tastes. I'm way into kink myself, so you're certainly not alone, dude. Check out some of this German stuff: anything by Alex D (particularly anything featuring Herrin Silva), EVS Fetish Line, SM Studio Berlin (Herrin Silva again), or Stella Cruella. Nobody does kink like the Germans. :up:

jag

[Jolie_Desastre]

Not into that animal and violent sex but I do like to be dominated......and like my porn with women commanding the man. Dominatrix, leather........yep! Thatd be me. :o Does that make me a bad person? :(

not at all. a vast majority of males love to be dominated and enjoy watching adult films containing such material. i don't find this disturbing at all.

it's when metal clamps get involved and stuff like that they make me cringe....

[jaguarr]

not at all. a vast majority of males love to be dominated and enjoy watching adult films containing such material. i don't find this disturbing at all.

it's when metal clamps get involved and stuff like that they make me cringe....

I don't know that I'd agree with that. While the kink and leather communities are very large and divers and do contain a large number of male submissives, slaves and bottoms I don't know that I'd go as far to say that the vast majority of males love to be dominated. There are a lot of guys out there with some serious control issues who would never allow themselves to be in such a position. And I know A LOT of femsubs as well. In all my years in the leather community I've never seen a particular gender gravitate towards one side of the D/s equation more than another, to be honest. It depends on what events you're attending (gay, straight, mixed, more fetish oriented vs. hardcore S&M'ers) and in what part of the world. You'll see a different mix of types of Tops and bottoms of both genders at various events.

jag

[Kritish]

Nobody does kink like the Germans. :up:

jag

"Dude, Germans are ****ed up!" - Stan

[Docker2.0]

You know Jag, I've seen the Euro porn from EvilAngel, I think it's called Eurodominatrix.......something like that. Is that considered german porn? The best porn where a woman dominates a guy BY FAR IMHO is by Jules Jordan. Anything dude does the guy is getting smothered, facesi......alot of good stuff. :o

[Kritish]

I hate to be a square but I think the mods aren't going to like everyone discussing BD&SM porn on the hype. :ninja:

[jaguarr]

You know Jag, I've seen the Euro porn from EvilAngel, I think it's called Eurodominatrix.......something like that. Is that considered german porn? The best porn where a woman dominates a guy BY FAR IMHO is by Jules Jordan. Anything dude does the guy is getting smothered, facesi......alot of good stuff. :o

Evil Angel is out of the UK. They do some decent stuff. The Germans do it better, though. :hyper:

jag

[Docker2.0]

Are you serious?! :eek: So that chick Naomi.....is british? What companys are out of Germany? I need to check that out. :ninja:

[jaguarr]

Are you serious?! :eek: So that chick Naomi.....is british? What companys are out of Germany? I need to check that out. :ninja:

Check post #52, homeboy. :up:

jag

[Docker2.0]

I think I've heard of Silva. You said you know female subs/mistresses right.........well I might need some "info" for future events. Hook me up! :ninja:

[jaguarr]

I think I've heard of Silva. You said you know female subs/mistresses right.........well I might need some "info" for future events. Hook me up! :ninja:

Hi me up in PM. I might be able to hook you up. I know a lot of people in the scene. Mostly in NYC, SF Bay Area and L.A. Used to know folks in Dallas and Chicago, but they've all moved to one of those three other cities I mentioned first.

jag

[Docker2.0]

Hi me up in PM. I might be able to hook you up. I know a lot of people in the scene. Mostly in NYC, SF Bay Area and L.A. Used to know folks in Dallas and Chicago, but they've all moved to one of those three other cities I mentioned first.

jag
For some reason I can't send you a pm. SHH not letting me. :confused:

[jaguarr]

For some reason I can't send you a pm. SHH not letting me. :confused:

Damn. Well, I guess you'll never know, then. :o

jag

[Golgo-13]

Jenna was hot back in her Prime, but what's the average lifespan of a woman in porn, isn't it like up to 35 or something..?

With the exceptions of a few like Nina Hartley,etc,etc most woman's bodies have been knocked up so many times, they're no good to anyone. The smart ones take it to the next level and invest their money, the dumb ones end up waiting tables at Hooters.

Anyhow, even in her Prime Jenna couldn't compete with my All Time Fav; Carmen Luvana....:heart: :yay: :heart: :yay:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d5/Carmen_Luvana_DSC_0309-1-.jpg/250px-Carmen_Luvana_DSC_0309-1-.jpghttp://delivery.viewimages.com/xv/55391742.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19396908EAF14430D3503131F3EE972599C 54DD0029F84AC285

http://www.clubcarmen.com/images/freestuff/IMG_4854.jpg

[The Lizard]

she looks like a real life ivy from soul calibur

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6491/4mwkrkgpe8.jpg

Hey - that's an insult to the Ivy character! :cmad:


BTW, Ivy looked a lot better in the first Soul Calibur, before the horny game designers decided to add ridiculously ginormous breasts. :down:

[terry78]

^I honestly don't know what possessed them to do that. I would be cringing everytime I decided to play the game at a family gathering and someone chose or had to end up battling Ivy. They'd be like..."Terrence, what kind of game is this?!" We were playing part three earlier at my family reunion and Taki was moving so fast the nipples weren't really noticeable. Ivy's ****...you just need a pair of scissors and it's on.

[Jolie_Desastre]

I don't know that I'd agree with that. While the kink and leather communities are very large and divers and do contain a large number of male submissives, slaves and bottoms I don't know that I'd go as far to say that the vast majority of males love to be dominated. There are a lot of guys out there with some serious control issues who would never allow themselves to be in such a position. And I know A LOT of femsubs as well. In all my years in the leather community I've never seen a particular gender gravitate towards one side of the D/s equation more than another, to be honest. It depends on what events you're attending (gay, straight, mixed, more fetish oriented vs. hardcore S&M'ers) and in what part of the world. You'll see a different mix of types of Tops and bottoms of both genders at various events.

jag


i wasn't saying the vast majority, i said a vast majority. i'm it's not just whips and leather i'm talking about. just that the woman would take control in the bedroom, like tying him up with his tie...or her panties...or her being almost always on top.

stuff like that.


or in some cases, *****slapping the guy with her asking what her name is...but that's not as common i assume...

[Jolie_Desastre]

Jenna was hot back in her Prime, but what's the average lifespan of a woman in porn, isn't it like up to 35 or something..?

With the exceptions of a few like Nina Hartley,etc,etc most woman's bodies have been knocked up so many times, they're no good to anyone. The smart ones take it to the next level and invest their money, the dumb ones end up waiting tables at Hooters.

Anyhow, even in her Prime Jenna couldn't compete with my All Time Fav; Carmen Luvana....:heart: :yay: :heart: :yay:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d5/Carmen_Luvana_DSC_0309-1-.jpg/250px-Carmen_Luvana_DSC_0309-1-.jpghttp://delivery.viewimages.com/xv/55391742.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19396908EAF14430D3503131F3EE972599C 54DD0029F84AC285

http://www.clubcarmen.com/images/freestuff/IMG_4854.jpg

she was in pirates wasn't she?

[jaguarr]

i wasn't saying the vast majority, i said a vast majority. i'm it's not just whips and leather i'm talking about. just that the woman would take control in the bedroom, like tying him up with his tie...or her panties...or her being almost always on top.

stuff like that.


or in some cases, *****slapping the guy with her asking what her name is...but that's not as common i assume...

I see no semantical difference between saying "a vast majority" or "the vast majority"? :huh: And my point still stands whether you're talking about the more hardcore BDSM scene or little bedroom games playing with very light power exchange and control swapping; it's not relegated to one gender more than the other in my experience.

jag

[Jolie_Desastre]

I see no semantical difference between saying "a vast majority" or "the vast majority"? :huh: And my point still stands whether you're talking about the more hardcore BDSM scene or little bedroom games playing with very light power exchange and control swapping; it's not relegated to one gender more than the other in my experience.

jag

you're right, it goes both ways, i'm just saying that it's common that most men like to be dominated in the bedroom from time to time, while others love to take control.

about the the and the a for vast majority, there is a slight difference. it's like in jaws when they captured that tiger shark and his wife said they caught the shark, the the scientist said, they caught a shark, not the shark.

it's hard to explain. i gotta be careful using movies to describe stuff...but oh well.

[jaguarr]

you're right, it goes both ways, i'm just saying that it's common that most men like to be dominated in the bedroom from time to time, while others love to take control.

about the the and the a for vast majority, there is a slight difference. it's like in jaws when they captured that tiger shark and his wife said they caught the shark, the the scientist said, they caught a shark, not the shark.

it's hard to explain. i gotta be careful using movies to describe stuff...but oh well.

It's also very common that most women like to be dominated in the bedroom from time to time, then, going by your logic. :huh: I think it's probably fairer and more accurate to say that there are many people from all genders that like to be dominated in the bedroom sometimes. ;)

jag

[Golgo-13]

she was in pirates wasn't she?

Yeah.

[Jolie_Desastre]

It's also very common that most women like to be dominated in the bedroom from time to time, then, going by your logic. :huh: I think it's probably fairer and more accurate to say that there are many people from all genders that like to be dominated in the bedroom sometimes. ;)

jag

ok ok fine :csad: gah both work for me but whatever lol :woot::cwink:

[Jolie_Desastre]

Yeah.

thought i recognized her.....

[AndThePickles]

http://www.stinkytuscadero.com/new/glam/glam41.jpg
http://www.oneposter.co.uk/UserData/Poster/Poster_13103.jpg

Where'd you go....I miss you sooo....

[DV8]

It's also very common that most women like to be dominated in the bedroom from time to time, then, going by your logic. :huh: I think it's probably fairer and more accurate to say that there are many people from all genders that like to be dominated in the bedroom sometimes. ;)

jag

Jag, quit Pwning the **** out of Jolie . . . she's so sweet and innocent and you just PWNed that ass!!

you were totally right though . . . :ninja:

[Warhammer]

DAMN,what the f*** happened to Jenna?! :wow:

I guess I won't be getting off on Jenna, anymore. :o

[Warhammer]

Jenna was hot back in her Prime, but what's the average lifespan of a woman in porn, isn't it like up to 35 or something..?

With the exceptions of a few like Nina Hartley,etc,etc most woman's bodies have been knocked up so many times, they're no good to anyone. The smart ones take it to the next level and invest their money, the dumb ones end up waiting tables at Hooters.

Lisa Ann. :heart:

[jaguarr]

Jag, quit Pwning the **** out of Jolie . . . she's so sweet and innocent and you just PWNed that ass!!

you were totally right though . . . :ninja:

Really not trying to "pwn" her. She's a sweetie but she's off base about something I've got quite a bit of experience with so I'm just trying to provide my viewpoint based on that. :)

jag

[Jolie_Desastre]

i blame that one on lack of sleep :(

summer...no sleep...not good :(

:(

[Two-Face]

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/4601/271505389442lvt9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

WTF?? is going on.:wow: :csad:

[jaguarr]

WTF?? is going on.:wow: :csad:

She needs the blood of virgins in order to stay young. Unfortunately, she only knows girls in the porn business so she's dying of thirst. :o

jag

[K.B.]

Yeah she was hot back then but now I wouldn't touch her with Spoons d**k and Jag pushing.

The sad part is I know a TON of girls that think she's much better looking now and the hottest porn star going which obviously isn't true.

[SoulManX]

Yeah she was hot back then but now I wouldn't touch her with Spoons d**k and Jag pushing.

The sad part is I know a TON of girls that think she's much better looking now and the hottest porn star going which obviously isn't true.

:woot:

[Superman4ever]

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/4601/271505389442lvt9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Moses!

[Warhammer]

Damn. :wow: :down

[Drizzle]

And she still does porn looking like that? :eek:

[K.B.]

Ummmm...can we get some older pics up?

[Majik1387]

And she still does porn looking like that? :eek:
Shemale porn.:o







:wow:






:dry:

[Hunter Rider]

Now with added ink

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[jaguarr]

What does the one on her right shoulder, say? "I was born to do Ho's"? :huh:

I don't mind the ink at all. She still looks like a cancer survivor, though.

jag

[Hunter Rider]

What does the one on her right shoulder, say? "I was born to do Ho's"? :huh:

I don't mind the ink at all. She still looks like a cancer survivor, though.

jag

I think it says i was born to do this.

[terry78]

When white actresses get their lips done, it makes them look like creatures from the black lagoon. Honestly.

[xwolverine2]

she looks like a real life ivy from soul calibur

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6491/4mwkrkgpe8.jpg

:wow:

[jaguarr]

I think it says i was born to do this.

That's even more vague. :huh:

jag

[Superman_]

Why does she remind me now of the guy from Beetle juice whose head was to small for his body.

[rdh007]

That's even more vague. :huh:

jag
Doesn't it mean she was born to make the beast with two backs?

[jaguarr]

Doesn't it mean she was born to make the beast with two backs?

I think she only does it with chicks. And Tito. *dryheave*

jag

[Apollo]

What the hell happend to her! she used to be so hot!!

[Prognosticator]

Folks, let this be a lesson to you; this is what happens when you date Tito Ortiz.

jag

Living on a Spike TV budget vs. living on a Vivid budget :o

[Prognosticator]

Those pics are WEIRD! :wow:

She's been hanging out with um, can't think of her name....**Plastic Surgery Addiction**

[Shuley]

she needs to eat and her tan looks horrible.

[rdh007]

Those pics are WEIRD! :wow:

She's been hanging out with um, can't think of her name....**Plastic Surgery Addiction**

[img]http://www.todoso.co.uk/blog/catwoman.gif

[PyroChamber]

Now she kind of looks like that pornstar Houston.

[Mr Sparkle]

Now with added ink



http://i17.tinypic.com/4r8kqrp.jpg




she's just a sweet transvestite, from transsexual Transylvania.

http://www.image-upload.net/files/2119/tim-curry---rocky-horror-picture-sh.jpeg

[AndThePickles]

OH gross, those tattoos are hideous!!! :csad:

[Prognosticator]

That doesn't even look like her anymore.




....And she already didn't look like herself from before.

[Mattchew]

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/4601/271505389442lvt9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

that is scary, but to be fare, part of that is weight loss, part is bad plastic surgery, and i guess the majority is just aging.

[skorponok]

the lips really make her look bad above all else.

[Mattchew]

she's just a sweet transvestite, from transsexual Transylvania.

http://www.image-upload.net/files/2119/tim-curry---rocky-horror-picture-sh.jpeg

wow... that works... sadly.

[Swordmaster]

Well at least she's out of porn for now, until she gets hot again.


I hope that last part is true :csad:

[kane9321]

good gawd:(

[Ghostvirus]

Some of you are using the excuse of age. She is only 33!

[Super_Ludacris]

Damn she fell off...

[Penismightier]

Yeah, it's not age. It's a bad tan, way too much plastic surgery, and crazy dieting for some reason. She was considered hot by most of the free world, how the hell could she have a terrible body image? Every female porn star wanted to "work" with her. Now it just looks like someone skinned her and replaced her skin with old leather.

[Super_Ludacris]

I'm a little suprised this happened so quickly. Last pics I saw of her were for some FHM or Maxim shoot in 2005 and she was ****ing perfect, the brunette look was good too.
How the hell did this happened so fast. I didnt know about this, until I saw this thread.

[Mattchew]

http://www.todoso.co.uk/blog/catwoman.gif

its hilarious the the AFTER is less distorted. yikes.

[hippy fascist]

http://thesuperficial.com/2007/04/jenna-jameson-t-mobile-sidekick-00.jpg

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW :(

[jaguarr]

Some of you are using the excuse of age. She is only 33!

Really? God, I was thinking she was in her mid-forties going by those pics. That's pathetic. I'll repeat it, this is what happens to you when you date Tito Ortiz.

jag

[Mattchew]

http://thesuperficial.com/2007/04/jenna-jameson-t-mobile-sidekick-00.jpg


'excuse me... i need to puke in my hand'

[Mike059jig]

ah man....my friend said she has some king of cancer that making her look like this, but she looks horrible!!!

[Mattchew]

well if that is the case, that's tragic.

[Memphis Slim]

Really? God, I was thinking she was in her mid-forties going by those pics. That's pathetic. I'll repeat it, this is what happens to you when you date Tito Ortiz.

jag


She lives a hard and destructive life. Doesn't matter about the money. :dry: It all catches up to you in the end.

[hippy fascist]

let the rabbits wear glasses!

[jaguarr]

let the rabbits wear glasses!

Yeah! :cmad:

Wait...what? :huh:

jag

[Mattchew]

Yeah! :cmad:

Wait...what? :huh:

jag

^ a transcript of my thoughts after reading that post.

[bullets]

i thought this was a jenna jameson thread why are people posting pictures of calista flockheart

[Hunter Rider]

http://i3.tinypic.com/66ouryt.jpg

:csad:

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

They showed some new pics of her somewhere on this website. Looked totally gross cuz it was like a side profile kinda & she was smiling..Didn't look pretty.:o

[hippy fascist]

http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2007/01/jennajpure.jpg

[Dark Donnie]

She was so hot like 2 years ago....yuck

[Mister J]

I don't know if it was even that long ago. She fell off quick ...and hard.

[terry78]

Her lips are like in a permanent scowl.

[KenK]

This is sad. Mind you, I haven't really seen enough of her movies to really call myself a fan, but I always thought she was a nice lookin' chick. Now, I don't know what to make of her. Ugh.

All that's left for me now is Tera Patrick.

http://i3.tinypic.com/66ouryt.jpg

I mean, for the love of Christ, she looks like a man with a woman's face stretched over her head!

[The Chris]

what the hell happened!

[Mister J]

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/1880/2870jj10iu0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:dry:

[SWAT]

So the aliens have been here all along? They have just been hiding inside pornstars!?

[KenK]

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/1880/2870jj10iu0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:dry:

I don't know what looks worse, her or that god-awful outfit. . . . . .



























































































. . . . Of course it's her!

[K.B.]

You know who is hot?


Missy Monroe

:)

[hippy fascist]

Yeah! :cmad:

Wait...what? :huh:

jag

The Reverand Maynard :huh:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WcUxHOF6D8g

[Two-Face]

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/1880/2870jj10iu0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:dry:



Oh dear god, what the hell she done to her self...:csad: :dry: :cmad:

[Sugarculted]

So the aliens have been here all along? They have just been hiding inside pornstars!?

First they take Michael Jackson, now Jenna Jameson?

Who else, you cruel aliens? WHO ELSE?! :cmad:






Then again, I have no interest in Jenna Jameson whatsoever.

[terry78]

All you women that like to pout whenever you pose for the camera...keep doing it and your face will stick like hers. Forever.

[C.F. Kane]

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/1880/2870jj10iu0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:dry:

http://img5.allocine.fr/acmedia/medias/nmedia/00/02/36/52/et7.jpg

[Two-Face]

"ET... home..." or in her case "JJ...gone..." ?

[jaguarr]

The Reverand Maynard :huh:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WcUxHOF6D8g


Ahhh. I've not been to that Church for quite awhile, so your reference was lost on me. :o

jag

[bullets]

yuck

[Prognosticator]

http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2007/01/jennajpure.jpg

This could be Tabitha Stevens?? :huh:

[Prognosticator]

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/1880/2870jj10iu0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:dry:

You've got to be sh^ting me with these pics!?! :down :down

[Milkman95]

She's withering away to nothing. What a shame, she used be on fire.

[jaguarr]

She's withering away to nothing. What a shame, she used be on fire.

Now she's just kindling. :joker:

Thank you! I'll be here all week!

jag

[Mr Jide]

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/1880/2870jj10iu0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:dry:

*Throws up all over laptop*.

[Yurka]

jesus

[terry78]

I like how she thinks she's still the ****.

[KenK]

I like how she thinks she's still the ****.

Yeah, not only has she become a raisin, but she's also delusional.

[Jolie_Desastre]

these are recent. she looks 10x better with longer hair imo.

http://www.stinkytuscadero.com/aug07/uso/2.jpg
http://www.stinkytuscadero.com/aug07/uso/13.jpg
http://www.stinkytuscadero.com/aug07/uso/15.jpg

[Mister J]

At least she looks human there, but could still use a steady stream of sammiches.

[Hunter Rider]

At least she looks human there, but could still use a steady stream of sammiches.

problem is she's stopped swallowing:csad:

[Mister J]

Oooooh, so many jokes to be on that remark. :o

But it'd only remind me of how hot she used to be. :(

[KenK]

problem is she's stopped swallowing:csad:

HAHAHAHAHAAA!!! Yeah, she's missing out on a good source of protein! :woot:

[Dangerous]

She's lookin even worse now that she has taken her silicons out.

Damn her face lift experiments really were a bad idea, she looks terrible.

[lou2099]

Sad sad sad. She's blaming the weight loss on the stress of her divorce, you know. But I'm not buying it, it's a ridiculous claim.

[Golgo-13]

I like how she thinks she's still the ****.

Most woman do. That's why you see fat girls (where i live anyway) walking around with clothes that are 2-3 sizes too small for them, and they think they look sexy with their belly fat, massive love handles and buns hanging out for all to see.

I kinda feel sorry for Jenna. It's seems that once she started hanging around Tito Ortiz, he problem (whatever it may be) started. Has she spoken out about why she looks the way she does? Or is she dillusional and can't see that she's drastically changed...?

[lou2099]

She has spoken out, like I just said. She's blaming the weight loss on the stress of her divorce. But it is likely to be drugs.

[Milkman95]

She has spoken out, like I just said. She's blaming the weight loss on the stress of her divorce. But it is likely to be drugs.

It's probably a combination of drugs and what Hunter said - she's missing out on that gallon of Gentlemen's Relish she used to take down on a daily basis.

[BlackLantern]

Maybe its the stress of dating Tito Ortiz, the walking toolbox, who acts like a HS jock ***hole..."She's my GF and she isn't doing films anymore and she loves me".....

[terry78]

Can you honestly start dating a porn star and not become a jerk?

[BlackLantern]

Can you honestly start dating a porn star and not become a jerk?

He was a jerk before dating her....its just more pronounced now...

[lou2099]

- she's missing out on that gallon of Gentlemen's Relish she used to take down on a daily basis.hahahaha.
Ortiz thinks he's hot sh_t now that he's getting her, but is too stupid to realize that she's long past her prime and it's not a big deal anymore.

[bullets]

http://www.end-of-radio.com/images/sirius/jennajameson.jpg


good times

[Hunter Rider]

http://i20.tinypic.com/s5y81g.jpg

http://i23.tinypic.com/143nvvl.jpg

http://i23.tinypic.com/xeoj6r.jpg

http://i20.tinypic.com/2ex9hef.jpg

http://i22.tinypic.com/21k0bap.jpg

http://i22.tinypic.com/20ua5hj.jpg

http://i24.tinypic.com/zu1t0h.jpg

[Mister J]

^ She doesn't look bad there, at least in comparison to some of the more skeletal pictues ...like these I just came across. :o

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4308/jennajamesonheatherettevm9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/341/jennajamesonheatheretteue1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1700/jennajamesonheatherettega4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I'm particularly fond of the caption 'Jenna Jameson: Undead Plastic Zombie Lady' :up:

[Golgo-13]

Which ones are more recent?

I'm sure with her line of work, ppl are assuming she has AIDS or something.

I feel bad for her. She never came off as being a diva or whatnot. The interviews i saw of her, she always came off as being down to earth, so i don't think she deserves whats happening to her.

[LexCorp]

Meh....moving on now.

[terry78]

She is what Lohan, Hilton, Spears, and the entire female makeup of Disney Channel shows will be at age 40.

[Dangerous]

Hhaahha, jenna amuses me.

She used to be hot, now she is turning into a decrepit plastic abomination.

I pity the fool!

[Prognosticator]

So has she gained back some weight or what???

I thought there'd be new skeletor pics! :down

[Darknightnomis]

She always looked like one of the characters from ELFQUEST to me. :dry:

[Golgo-13]

Everyones favorite porn queen is on E! right now. They're airing her True Hollywood Story.

[Mr Jide]

Its all about the likes of shyla stylez and Gianna Michaels.

[Golgo-13]

Nothing about her recent weight loss, etc....?

[Memphis Slim]

Which ones are more recent?

I'm sure with her line of work, ppl are assuming she has AIDS or something.

I feel bad for her. She never came off as being a diva or whatnot. The interviews i saw of her, she always came off as being down to earth, so i don't think she deserves whats happening to her.



That's what I was thinking.

She's ingested gallons of semen over the years thru her nasty and risky career. Money isn't everything. This kind of lifestyle never ends well. She could very well be sick.

[KenK]

That's what I was thinking.

She's ingested gallons of semen over the years thru her nasty and risky career. Money isn't everything.

Yeah, but the porn industry's heath guidelines are pretty strict, though. They've been very thorough in their testing practices over the years, and major STD/HIV cases have been rare.

This kind of lifestyle never ends well.

Kind of a broad generalization, don't you think?

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

In her autobiography, Massoli writes that in October 1990, while the family was living on a cattle ranch in Fromberg, Montana, she was beaten with rocks and gang raped by four boys after a football game. She says she was raped a second time, while still sixteen, by her boyfriend Jack's biker uncle, Preacher.[12] (Preacher has denied this.)[14] Rather than tell her father, she left home and moved in with Jack in her first serious relationship.

Interesting.

[Memphis Slim]

Yeah, but the porn industry's heath guidelines are pretty strict, though. They've been very thorough in their testing practices over the years, and major STD/HIV cases have been rare.



Kind of a broad generalization, don't you think?


No...not at all. And if money is involved, you better believe there is a lot of "looking the other way" type of stuff going down. Health guidlines??? HA! :woot: That's a joke. Puhleeez..... You think those studio exac really care about those porn stars??

And don't forget...she got in this biz before the guidelines went into effect and who knows what may have slipped thru the cracks. That crap can lay dormant for years and catch up with you later.

That is a sleezy and unscrupulous industry.

[KenK]

No...not at all. And if money is involved, you better believe there is a lot of "looking the other way" type of stuff going down. Health guidlines??? HA! :woot: That's a joke. Puhleeez..... You think those studio exac really care about those porn stars??

If they want to keep making money of their more popular stars! You think the major porn studios would risk STD outbreaks for short gains? That doesn't really make any sense.

And don't forget...she got in this biz before the guidelines went into effect and who knows what may have slipped thru the cracks. That crap can lay dormant for years and catch up with you later.

You're kind of showing your ignorance if your assumption is that a person pursuing a career in porn only gets tested once, and is never tested again.

That is a sleezy and unscrupulous industry.

It's not like Porn is still controlled by the mafia, like back in the 70s. You just seem to be really going out of your way to justify your opinion. Your welcome to that opinion, but you're demonizing it without really providing anything concrete to back it up.

[jaguarr]

CellSlim's just being overly righteous. He clearly doesn't know much about how the porn industry is run in this day and age. Since the 80's it's a very self-regulated industry for the most part, though there are small-timers in the mix that don't always play by the industry rules but those are the exception rather than the rule.

jag

[Yurka]

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4308/jennajamesonheatherettevm9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
[/URL]
[URL="http://imageshack.us"] (http://imageshack.us)



Disgusting :down

[Memphis Slim]

CellSlim's just being overly righteous. He clearly doesn't know much about how the porn industry is run in this day and age. Since the 80's it's a very self-regulated industry for the most part, though there are small-timers in the mix that don't always play by the industry rules but those are the exception rather than the rule.

jag


Can't believe you are defending and industry like this. Call me self-righteous if you want. You ought to try it some times!

Women and men are basically human garbage recepticals for money! And yes ....to make money, some of these sleeze bags will look the other way just to get another movie out of even their biggest star. Why?? Because the next sex pot is just around the corner......a dime a dozen. One day, some will be asking "Jenna who?" If you are hot and love the camera, how much talent does that take??

This is like the old school NFL that put their best plays back on the field with broken limbs!! They only cared about the bottom line and not the people.

[JackRembrandt]

Can't believe you are defending and industry like this. Call me self-righteous if you want. You ought to try it some times!

Women and men are basically human garbage recepticals for money! And yes ....to make money, some of these sleeze bags will look the other way just to get another movie out of even their biggest star. Why?? Because the next sex pot is just around the corner......a dime a dozen. One day, some will be asking "Jenna who?" If you are hot and love the camera, how much talent does that take??

This is like the old school NFL that put their best plays back on the field with broken limbs!! They only cared about the bottom line and not the people.

Those are your opinions and you're entitled to them, but I think he was referring to the safety of the industry.

[jaguarr]

Can't believe you are defending and industry like this. Call me self-righteous if you want. You ought to try it some times!

Women and men are basically human garbage recepticals for money! And yes ....to make money, some of these sleeze bags will look the other way just to get another movie out of even their biggest star. Why?? Because the next sex pot is just around the corner......a dime a dozen. One day, some will be asking "Jenna who?" If you are hot and love the camera, how much talent does that take??

This is like the old school NFL that put their best plays back on the field with broken limbs!! They only cared about the bottom line and not the people.

I have friends who work in the industry you seem to despise so much, actually. And what we are talking about are consenting adults doing what they want to do with their own bodies, so get off your moral high-horse. Don't like it, don't watch it. Pretty damn simple. All that aside, you were spouting untruths in your previous post and I believe I was pretty clear that was the primary thing I was taking issue with, all your personal beliefs and moral agenda aside.

jag

[Memphis Slim]

I have friends who work in the industry you seem to despise so much, actually. And what we are talking about are consenting adults doing what they want to do with their own bodies, so get off your moral high-horse. Don't like it, don't watch it. Pretty damn simple. All that aside, you were spouting untruths in your previous post and I believe I was pretty clear that was the primary thing I was taking issue with, all your personal beliefs and moral agenda aside.

jag

I don't care who you know in that industry! Got that?
It's a disgusting way to live your life. Period. And tragic! Just look at Jenna.......she's been the brunt of humiliating commentary this whole thread AND NOT BY ME.

And if you really cared for them, if they are really your friends, you'd encourage them to get out.

And I don't watch it. But I know what's up.

Oh ...and news flash....."EVEN YOUR OPINION, ON THIS MATTER, IS BASED ON YOUR PERSONAL BELIEFS."

[Golgo-13]

I love it how anytime two ppl are arguing a point around here, they always claim to know someone pertaining to the situation to validate their point.

LOL!

[Docker2.0]

I have friends who work in the industry you seem to despise so much, actually. And what we are talking about are consenting adults doing what they want to do with their own bodies, so get off your moral high-horse. Don't like it, don't watch it. Pretty damn simple. All that aside, you were spouting untruths in your previous post and I believe I was pretty clear that was the primary thing I was taking issue with, all your personal beliefs and moral agenda aside.

jag

Is it a she? Hook me up man!! :hyper:

[jaguarr]

I don't care who you know in that industry! Got that?
It's a disgusting way to live your life. Period. And tragic! Just look at Jenna.......she's been the brunt of humiliating commentary this whole thread AND NOT BY ME.

And if you really cared for them, if they are really your friends, you'd encourage them to get out.

And I don't watch it. But I know what's up.

Oh ...and news flash....."EVEN YOUR OPINION, ON THIS MATTER, IS BASED ON YOUR PERSONAL BELIEFS."

Jenna's issues stem from past drug abuse and an obsessive-compulsive eating and exercise disorder. It's got nothing to do with her being a part of that industry. Especially since she's mostly involved in the production side of things rather than in front of the camera.

Believe it or not, there are people who work in EVERY industry that have a multitude of addictions, personal issues and more. I know so many functional alcoholics working in Corporate America, having affairs, getting divorced, hurting their kids, and all sorts of other tragic evils. It has nothing to do with their career choices, it has everything to do with how they handle life in general and the stresses that come with it. Where my personal beliefs on the matter and your differ is that I'm willing to allow people to make their own choices in life and do what they want to do with their own bodies and sexuality. I know five people in the porn industry. Three of them do extremely well in it, are very well adjusted and live relatively normal, well-adjusted lives. Two of them are performers and the other is a producer. They enjoy their work and consider it a job and nothing more. One has no business being in it at all and our other friends that work in the industry have encouraged and pushed him to get out because he's clearly in it for the wrong reasons and can't deal with it on a psychological or emotional basis. Yes...other people in the industry are trying to push someone out that they care about because the work is damaging to them and clearly not where they should be. The other has always worked on the technical side as a film editor and he's not very involved in the production side other than cutting the films for release. He's married with three kids and has a great home life. I accept them for who they are and as long as they aren't getting damaged then no one has any business telling them they should be living their lives any differently.

There are people from all walks of life in every industry. Some handle what they do well, some don't. The porn industry is no different. The porn industry does not automatically destroy lives, contrary to what you seem to be espousing. Just because you wouldn't choose to live your life that way doesn't make it wrong or give you the right to condemn or even pity those that do.

jag

[jaguarr]

I love it how anytime two ppl are arguing a point around here, they always claim to know someone pertaining to the situation to validate their point.

LOL!

Can't help who I know and who I don't know. I don't typically argue and then throw out examples about people I DON'T know. ;)

jag

[jaguarr]

Is it a she? Hook me up man!! :hyper:

You're an "outsider". They wouldn't touch you with a hazmat suit on.

jag

[KenK]

Can't believe you are defending and industry like this. Call me self-righteous if you want. You ought to try it some times!

Women and men are basically human garbage recepticals for money!

Could you be anymore dramatic? Because if you're referring to pornstars swallowing spunk, you're just being silly. Your issue has now become "how" semen enters a women's body. Because by its very nature, it's "supposed" to enter a woman's body! As long as the man has no type of STDs, there's no real harm in swallowing, not comparable to eating actual garbage, that's for sure.

And yes ....to make money, some of these sleeze bags will look the other way just to get another movie out of even their biggest star. Why?? Because the next sex pot is just around the corner......a dime a dozen.

Yes, not every studio is as reputable or as responsible as a Vivid or an Adam & Eve or Wicked Pictures (the studio Jenna made her career with). But even some of those smaller studios will still take the bare minimum of precautions.

One day, some will be asking "Jenna who?" If you are hot and love the camera, how much talent does that take??

You also underestimate the number of women who manage to transition into more authoritative roles within the porn industry, after their best days in front of the camera are behind them. At least those who achieve the level of popularity close to Jenna Jameson.

Bottom line, your beef seems more about morality than actual health issues. Yours is a MORAL stance against pornography, it has nothing to do with the health of the performers.

[Docker2.0]

You're an "outsider". They wouldn't touch you with a hazmat suit on.

jag

Geez man! Way to make me feel loved. :csad:

[jaguarr]

Double Post

jag

[jaguarr]

Yes, not every studio is as reputable or as responsible as a Vivid or an Adam & Eve or Wicked Pictures (the studio Jenna made her career with). But even some of those smaller studios will still take the bare minimum of precautions.


The porn industry certainly hasn't cornered the market on "disposable starlets and sexpots" by any means. The mainstream film industry chews people up and spits them out just as ruthlessly if not worse, and they do it to a hell of a lot more people.

jag

[jaguarr]

Geez man! Way to make me feel loved. :csad:

That's their culture, man. They are UBER selective about who they'll have sex with in real life because they can't afford to risk an STD. Period. It's a strange little sub-culture they have. Some of them live like damn monks when they're off camera.

jag

[Memphis Slim]

Could you be anymore dramatic? Because if you're referring to pornstars swallowing spunk, you're just being silly. Your issue has now become "how" semen enters a women's body. Because by its very nature, it's "supposed" to enter a woman's body! As long as the man has no type of STDs, there's no real harm in swallowing, not comparable to eating actual garbage, that's for sure.



Yes, not every studio is as reputable or as responsible as a Vivid or an Adam & Eve or Wicked Pictures (the studio Jenna made her career with). But even some of those smaller studios will still take the bare minimum of precautions.



You also underestimate the number of women who manage to transition into more authoritative roles within the porn industry, after their best days in front of the camera are behind them. At least those who achieve the level of popularity close to Jenna Jameson.

Bottom line, her beef seems more about morality than actual health issues. Yours is a MORAL stance against pornography, it has nothing to do with the health of the performers.


You give me all of this fancy, word-salad rationalization...
Is this a life that you'd want your mother, daugter or sister to have?? Would you encourage this?

You'll probably say "yes". Just to win your argument. But you know that you would never accept this for your loved one.

[jaguarr]

You give me all of this fancy, word-salad rationalization...
Is this a life that you'd want your mother, daugter or sister to have?? Would you encourage this?

You'll probably say "yes". Just to win your argument. But you know that you would never accept this for your loved one.

I'm not Ken, but you know what? As long as they were smart about what they were doing, handled their business properly, didn't get into drugs or partying, and treated it like a serious career then I wouldn't stand in their way. I'd make damn sure they knew what they were really getting themselves into and I would rather they became an engineer or a doctor, but if they are an informed, consenting adult that is comfortable with their sexuality and protected themselves, then I wouldn't try to stop them or quit loving and supporting them as a human being. We can't make people live the lives we want them to. They have to do that for themselves.

jag

[KenK]

That's their culture, man. They are UBER selective about who they'll have sex with in real life because they can't afford to risk an STD. Period. It's a strange little sub-culture they have. Some of them live like damn monks when they're off camera.

jag

Exactly, porn stars don't know where you've been! :woot:

But seriously, it brings up a valid point; people who are judgment about about porn stars ignore the sexual activity of everyday people. Whereas porn stars are working in an industry where they (rightly) have to be tested for STDs and HIV, those of us who are just everyday folk are under no professional obligation. Not to advocate NOT testings regularly if you know you're sexually active with multiple partners, but the reality of the world is that a lot of people just don't do it. A lot of us like to think we can just know a person, and that will be enough.

[Memphis Slim]

I'm not Ken, but you know what? As long as they were smart about what they were doing, handled their business properly, didn't get into drugs or partying, and treated it like a serious career then I wouldn't stand in their way. I'd make damn sure they knew what they were really getting themselves into and I would rather they became an engineer or a doctor, but if they are an informed, consenting adult that is comfortable with their sexuality and protected themselves, then I wouldn't try to stop them or quit loving and supporting them as a human being. We can't make people live the lives we want them to. They have to do that for themselves.

jag


Dude......"SMART" stops at the front door!!

And real love does not involve endorsing and affirming every decision a friend makes. That just stupid!! Real love warns and admonishes as well! I am not supporting my friend if they are in risky behavior!

And you say you wouldn't stand in their way. Nice dodge. That's not what I asked! :dry: I said.....would you encourage it???? Would you even give your money to help your daughter get into the business??? Good Lord...how could you even think to mention porn queen in the same sentence with being a doctor or engineer?? Have we just lost our minds today??

It doesn't mean I'm trying make them live the life I want them to. I just want to live. And having sex with strange men and women for money is not living. Being a human trash can is not living.

What is wrong with you, Jag!!???

[Mr Sparkle]

he said

"I would rather they became an engineer or a doctor"
anyone that can rub two brain cells together knows that he would prefer it.
in fact, he never mentions "porn queen" in any of the sentences.
do you just like highlight random words and hope that you get the gist of the argument. ( heh, I said "gist" in a porn-related thread a-hyuk)

[Memphis Slim]

he said

"I would rather they became an engineer or a doctor"
anyone that can rub two brain cells together knows that he would prefer it.
in fact, he never mentions "porn queen" in any of the sentences.
do you just like highlight random words and hope that you get the gist of the argument. ( heh, I said "gist" in a porn-related thread a-hyuk)
http://forums.superherohype.com/image.php?u=24951&dateline=1144424906 (http://forums.superherohype.com/member.php?u=24951)

Thanks Homer.:dry:

[Mr Sparkle]

hahahaha, what a sad old man you are.

[jaguarr]

Dude......"SMART" stops at the front door!!

WTF does that even mean? :huh:


And real love does not involve endorsing and affirming every decision a friend makes. That just stupid!! Real love warns and admonishes as well! I am not supporting my friend if they are in risky behavior!

At what point did you miss any of the other parts I wrote about them being safe and smart about their decisions and protecting themselves as important to me, or that I'd prefer that they'd pursue a more vanilla career? My guess is before you started to read what I wrote.


And you say you wouldn't stand in their way. Nice dodge. That's not what I asked! :dry: I said.....would you encourage it???? Would you even give your money to help your daughter get into the business??? Good Lord...how could you even think to mention porn queen in the same sentence with being a doctor or engineer?? Have we just lost our minds today??

At what point has ANYONE been talking about encouraging and helping people get into pornography as a career in this thread? I sure haven't. Maybe you should try learning to ask your questions a little clearer and more precisely if you're unable to lead people to give the answers you want to hear them give to you. And, whether you like it or not, porn star is a career for some people just as being a doctor or a lawyer is a career to others.


It doesn't mean I'm trying make them live the life I want them to. I just want to live. And having sex with strange men and women for money is not living. Being a human trash can is not living.

What is wrong with you, Jag!!???

What's wrong with me? What's wrong with you? Why do you feel the need to project your morality onto people and demand that they should live the live that YOU feel is appropriate for them? Who the f**K do you think you are to tell other people how to live their lives? :huh:

jag

[Memphis Slim]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis Slim http://forums.superherohype.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=13294295#post13294295)
Dude......"SMART" stops at the front door!!

Jag:
WTF does that even mean? :huh:



It means that if these people were really "SMART" they wouldn't be doing this.

[guitarsingerguy]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis Slim http://forums.superherohype.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=13294295#post13294295)
Dude......"SMART" stops at the front door!!



It means that if these people were really "SMART" they wouldn't be doing this.

We mere mortals must look mighty small on that big tall soapbox. :o

[Memphis Slim]

Quote:
And real love does not involve endorsing and affirming every decision a friend makes. That just stupid!! Real love warns and admonishes as well! I am not supporting my friend if they are in risky behavior!
Jag:
At what point did you miss any of the other parts I wrote about them being safe and smart about their decisions and protecting themselves as important to me, or that I'd prefer that they'd pursue a more vanilla career? My guess is before you started to read what I wrote.


Swallowing semen from strange men is not smart or safe on any level!! The women are not wearing condoms in their mouths. And most of that sex is unprotected!!

Smart stopped at the door. :dry:

[jaguarr]

Quote:
And real love does not involve endorsing and affirming every decision a friend makes. That just stupid!! Real love warns and admonishes as well! I am not supporting my friend if they are in risky behavior!


Swallowing semen from strange men is not smart or safe on any level!! The women are not wearing condoms in their mouths. And most of that sex is unprotected!!

Smart stopped at the door. :dry:


You really don't know how the porn industry works. Bloody apparent when you write things like what you did above. Thanks for stopping by to be all judgmental and push your morals on everyone. :up:

jag

[Memphis Slim]

We mere mortals must look mighty small on that big tall soapbox. :o


Soap boxes are good to stand on some times.

[Memphis Slim]

You really don't know how the porn industry works. Bloody apparent when you write things like what you did above. Thanks for stopping by to be all judgmental and push your morals on everyone. :up:

jag


You're welcome.

And I know enough.

[Mr Sparkle]

And I know enough.

no, you obviously don't.

[guitarsingerguy]

Soap boxes are good to stand on some times.

Soap boxes are great for people to act like pompous asses on and that's about it. :dry:

[Reaper]

hahahaha, what a sad old man you are.

Hmm, I was thinking the same thing about you as I was reading through this.

My apologies for the interjection....everyone, please continue.

[K.B.]

Jag, KenK, Memphis Slim and everyone else ...I think we are missing one of the most important parts of the porn industy here. Some of the homes these girls come from and the type of parents they have.....

........... Slim your daughter will get into porn and it is going to rock :woot:

[Memphis Slim]

Jag, KenK, Memphis Slim and everyone else ...I think we are missing one of the most important parts of the porn industy here. Some of the homes these girls come from and the type of parents they have.....

No ...I haven't lost sight of that. A lot of these women come from abuse. then they gravitate to an industry that just uses them even more.It's sad, really.


........... Slim your daughter will get into porn and it is going to rock :woot:


Tell you what.....if she does, it won't be because Mom and Dad didn't do everything we could to turn her around. And if she does, she's on her own. Sometimes you have to love enough to let go.

[Sawyer]

http://www.ew.com/ew/inspirations/video/player/0,,20071478,00.html
http://news.softpedia.com/images/news2/Jenna-Jameson-Defends-Her-039-Honor-039-on-MySpace-2.jpg
http://images.askmen.com/galleries/other/Events/2b-free-fall-2007-collection-arrivals/pictures/2b-free-fall-2007-collection-arrivals-picture-1.jpg
http://www.javno.com/slike/slike_3/r1/g2007/m04/x35136327990997730.jpg

I think she's hot. Hotter than Paris Hilton.

[Memphis Slim]

Hmm, I was thinking the same thing about you as I was reading through this.

My apologies for the interjection....everyone, please continue.


LOL

[JackRembrandt]

Tell you what.....if she does, it won't be because Mom and Dad didn't do everything we could to turn her around. And if she does, she's on her own. Sometimes you have to love enough to let go.

You'd turn your back on your own child if she chooses something that doesn't fit into your world view?

[K.B.]

You'd turn your back on your own child if she chooses something that doesn't fit into your world view?

Isn't that what being an overbearing, biblethumping, douch is all about?

[Memphis Slim]

You'd turn your back on your own child if she chooses something that doesn't fit into your world view?


Yep. We'll be there if she wants to change. But we will not be involved in her hurting herself. If she is adult enuff to make the choice, she is adult enuff to face the consequences.

Most of you probably don't have kids or still live with your parents putting them thru hell. So I don't expect you to understand this concept called "tough Love". It's truly the best kind. :yay: :dry:

[Memphis Slim]

As any good parent will do. I will encourage and support honorable endeavors of my kids. Sports, Science, Politics, Clergy, Social Work, vocational.......

But not :
Porn
Drug Dealing
Prostitution
Theft
And other garbage

[jaguarr]

........... Slim your daughter will get into porn and it is going to rock :woot:

That was sort of uncalled for, dude. I may disagree with Slim on damn near everything but good soul and R&B music, sometimes to the point that we'll call eachother raving douchebag morons with our own thumbs planted firmly up our own asses, but taking it to a personal level like that isn't necessary.

jag

[Mr Sparkle]

Hmm, I was thinking the same thing about you as I was reading through this.

My apologies for the interjection....everyone, please continue.

you're still bitter about all those times I've made you look like a fool.
( easy enough work) and now this is all you have to offer to the conversation?
it was more of an "interruption" than an interjection as your little statement makes no sense :cwink:

good try though, keep reaching for the stars.

[Mr Sparkle]

LOL

:huh: you realize that you're older than me right?
( and , actually sad) why in heaven's name are you laughing?
also, how you can equate acting in Porno films to stealing or drug dealing is beyond me.
you do understand that Theft and drug dealing have "victims" right?
the porn industry is filled with runaways and emotionally scarred individuals, but so's the legitimate entertainment industry for that matter.
pornography only demeans those that WANT to be demeaned ( for the most part, let's not get into the whole "in third world countries people are forced to..." bull****, because they also get forced to make sweatshirts and I see not moral outrage at the GAP) and of course takes a toll on people.
wow, you mean the real world isn't all roses and teddy bears?
to be truthful, I would wish my children be happy with the choices they make, if it's between the porn industry and retirement at 40 to settle into their own business or a lifetime of serving coffee for minimum wage, hey, both are the same to me ( as I have made my choice in life and it encompasses neither) but I'm guessing a single mother might be forced to make the choice that will out the most food on the table, or hell, even someone not in a difficult position that happens to enjoy sex might choose to go into pornography.
I don't get these people that have hangups about sex but don't give a **** about killing people, not only is war hell Celldog, real life happens to be hell and you have to make some tough choices sometimes.
you don't like porn and don't like looking at women?
don't.
but also, you get to not give a crap when I do watch porn and look at women.
see, the difference is that I'm not forcing you to live by my skewed moral standards.:cwink:

[Memphis Slim]

That was sort of uncalled for, dude. I may disagree with Slim on damn near everything but good soul and R&B music, sometimes to the point that we'll call eachother raving douchebag morons with our own thumbs planted firmly up our own asses, but taking it to a personal level like that isn't necessary.

jag



I've never called you a douchbag moron no matter how badly we've disagreed. But I understand your sentiment.
Thank you sir.

[Memphis Slim]

Mr. Speckle:
:huh: you realize that you're older than me right?
( and , actually sad) why in heaven's name are you laughing?



Because his comment about you was funny??? :yay:

[SoulManX]

Slim one question...

If you daughter decide to be a video vixen or hollywood actress that does nude scene would you group that as porn?

I mean there are nude women that get paid to be drawn nude.

I feel a woman's body is her own and no men should tell her how she should use it.

And speaking of "tough love"... read this.

Saudi Court Sentences Rape Victim

AP
Posted: 2007-11-16 09:40:30
Filed Under: World News (http://news.aol.com/world)
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (Nov. 15) - A Saudi court sentenced a woman who had been gang raped to six months in jail and 200 lashes - more than doubling her initial penalty for being in the car of a man who was not a relative, a newspaper reported Thursday.

The decision by the Qatif General Court came in a case that had sparked rare debate about the kingdom's justice system when it surfaced more than a year ago.

In its decision Wednesday, the court also roughly doubled prison sentences for the seven men convicted of raping the 19-year-old woman, the Arab News reported on its English-language Web site.

According to Arab News, the court said the woman's punishment was increased because of "her attempt to aggravate and influence the judiciary through the media."

She had initially been sentenced to 90 lashes after being convicting her of violating Saudi's rigid laws on segregation of the sexes.

Under Saudi Arabia's interpretation of Islamic Sharia law, women are not allowed in public in the company of men other than their male relatives.

The initial sentences for the men convicted of the gang rape ranged from 10 months to five years in prison. Their new sentences range from two to nine years, the paper said.

The attack took place in 2006. The woman has said that it occurred as she tried to retrieve her picture from a male high school student she used to know. While in the car with the student, two men got into the vehicle and drove them to a secluded area. She said she was raped there by seven men, three of whom also attacked her friend.

Reports of the story triggered debate about Saudi Arabia's legal system, in which judges have wide discretion in punishing a criminal, rules of evidence are shaky and sometimes no defense lawyers are present. The result, critics say, are sentences left to the whim of judges.

The woman was identified in the media only as the Girl from Qatif. The case was referred back to the General Court by an appeals court last summer, after the woman's attorney argued the verdict was too lenient for the rapists and unjust for the victim.

[Memphis Slim]

Slim one question...

If you daughter decide to be a video vixen or hollywood actress that does nude scene would you group that as porn?

I mean there are nude women that get paid to be drawn nude.

I feel a woman's body is her own and no men should tell her how she should use it.

And speaking of "tough love"... read this.

Saudi Court Sentences Rape Victim

AP
Posted: 2007-11-16 09:40:30
Filed Under: World News (http://news.aol.com/world)
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (Nov. 15) - A Saudi court sentenced a woman who had been gang raped to six months in jail and 200 lashes - more than doubling her initial penalty for being in the car of a man who was not a relative, a newspaper reported Thursday.

The decision by the Qatif General Court came in a case that had sparked rare debate about the kingdom's justice system when it surfaced more than a year ago.

In its decision Wednesday, the court also roughly doubled prison sentences for the seven men convicted of raping the 19-year-old woman, the Arab News reported on its English-language Web site.

According to Arab News, the court said the woman's punishment was increased because of "her attempt to aggravate and influence the judiciary through the media."

She had initially been sentenced to 90 lashes after being convicting her of violating Saudi's rigid laws on segregation of the sexes.

Under Saudi Arabia's interpretation of Islamic Sharia law, women are not allowed in public in the company of men other than their male relatives.

The initial sentences for the men convicted of the gang rape ranged from 10 months to five years in prison. Their new sentences range from two to nine years, the paper said.

The attack took place in 2006. The woman has said that it occurred as she tried to retrieve her picture from a male high school student she used to know. While in the car with the student, two men got into the vehicle and drove them to a secluded area. She said she was raped there by seven men, three of whom also attacked her friend.

Reports of the story triggered debate about Saudi Arabia's legal system, in which judges have wide discretion in punishing a criminal, rules of evidence are shaky and sometimes no defense lawyers are present. The result, critics say, are sentences left to the whim of judges.

The woman was identified in the media only as the Girl from Qatif. The case was referred back to the General Court by an appeals court last summer, after the woman's attorney argued the verdict was too lenient for the rapists and unjust for the victim.


Come on "SoulBrotha'.....:dry:

I know you're not trying to equate parents "not supporting bad choices" of their children to that article ...are you?? Please tell me that's not the case.

By the way...if I had posted that article, I'd be accused of Muslim bashing. :yay: How are you getting away with it? What's 'yer secret? :yay:

[SoulManX]

Come on "SoulBrotha'.....:dry:

I know you're not trying to equate parents "not supporting bad choices" of their children to that article ...are you?? Please tell me that's not the case.

By the way...if I had posted that article, I'd be accused of Muslim bashing. :yay: How are you getting away with it? What's 'yer secret? :yay:


I really don't care about what other people believe so I don't bash them. I believe in what I believe...people have just one life to live if J.J. is a superstar in porn and it makes her happy so be it.

As for the article she broke a so called law her father has not come to her defense I guess that is "tough love".

Look if and when I have children no matter what they do I will always love them and support. Tough love in the end ends up hurting you than them.

[Memphis Slim]

I really don't care about what other people believe so I don't bash them. I believe in what I believe...people have just one life to live if J.J. is a superstar in porn and it makes her happy so be it.

But would you encourage your own daughter to get into that business? Would you be like, "Gee that's swell, Amy! I am so happy for you! Just remember not to swallow and make sure that strange man uses a condom when he bangs you senseless! Oh and don't worry about our family. This what we've always wanted for you. Make us proud!" :dry:

As for the article she broke a so called law her father has not come to her defense I guess that is "tough love".

90 lashes is not tough love. It's not even humane. And for you to use this as some measuring rod to win and argumaent is ridiculous and sad. :dry: People had less tolerance for what Vick did to dogs. Was that "tough love" too??


Look if and when I have children no matter what they do I will always love them and support. Tough love in the end ends up hurting you than them.



Since you don't have any children of your own, how whould you know that? When you finally do craddle that little one in your arms, you'll think differently. Believe me.

[Memphis Slim]

Most of you enjoy the porn. That's why you don't want them to stop.

[SoulManX]

Since you don't have any children of your own, how whould you know that? When you finally do craddle that little one in your arms, you'll think differently. Believe me.

You would be surprise:cwink:

[Memphis Slim]

You would be surprise:cwink:


No. You're in for the surprise. :yay:

[guitarsingerguy]

Since you don't have any children of your own, how whould you know that? When you finally do craddle that little one in your arms, you'll think differently. Believe me.

Now you're making blind assumptions about people. Just because you are a parent doesn't validate your statements. Keanu Reeves had a great line in Parenthood (Yes...the world is fiixing to end...I'm quoting a Keanu Reeves movie as insight :() "You know, Mrs. Buckman, you need a license to buy a dog, to drive a car - hell, you even need a license to catch a fish. But they'll let any butt-reaming ******* be a father." I'm not calling your parenting into question. That's not fair to anyone and I hate assumptions, but just because you are a parent doesn't mean you're a good one.

[Hunter Rider]

Now you're making blind assumptions about people. Just because you are a parent doesn't validate your statements. Keanu Reeves had a great line in Parenthood (Yes...the world is fiixing to end...I'm quoting a Keanu Reeves movie as insight :() "You know, Mrs. Buckman, you need a license to buy a dog, to drive a car - hell, you even need a license to catch a fish. But they'll let any butt-reaming ******* be a father." I'm not calling your parenting into question. That's not fair to anyone and I hate assumptions, but just because you are a parent doesn't mean you're a good one.

To add to that, Laurence Fishburne in Body 'N' the Hood - " Any fool with a dick can make a baby, but it takes a real man to be a father "

[jaguarr]

To add to that, Laurence Fishburne in Body 'N' the Hood - " Any fool with a dick can make a baby, but it takes a real man to be a father "

Is that a porno? :huh:

:p

jag

[KenK]

Most of you enjoy the porn. That's why you don't want them to stop.

And you take issue with those of us who do enjoy porn because. . . .?

[jaguarr]

And you take issue with those of us who do enjoy porn because. . . .?

Because he objects to it morally and wants everyone else to live by his set of morals. Pretty simple.

jag

[Golgo-13]

To add to that, Laurence Fishburne in Body 'N' the Hood - " Any fool with a dick can make a baby, but it takes a real man to be a father "

Boyz n Da Hood, Hunt.

[SoulManX]

Now you're making blind assumptions about people. Just because you are a parent doesn't validate your statements. Keanu Reeves had a great line in Parenthood (Yes...the world is fiixing to end...I'm quoting a Keanu Reeves movie as insight :() "You know, Mrs. Buckman, you need a license to buy a dog, to drive a car - hell, you even need a license to catch a fish. But they'll let any butt-reaming ******* be a father." I'm not calling your parenting into question. That's not fair to anyone and I hate assumptions, but just because you are a parent doesn't mean you're a good one.

He's got you there Slimy:o

And from Ted Theodore Logan:wow:

[KenK]

Because he objects to it morally and wants everyone else to live by his set of morals. Pretty simple.

jag

Oh. Just checkin'!

[guitarsingerguy]

He's got you there Slimy:o

And from Ted Theodore Logan:wow:


Do I get some kind of award for that? I think I should. :D

[guitarsingerguy]

Boyz n Da Hood, Hunt.

It must have been a Freudian slip. :o