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Memphis Slim
07-27-2007, 06:31 PM
Considering all that is going on in his life (aunt May dying) his family on the run.....isn't it irresponsible of Pete to to be trapsing off to Japan with Luke Cage and crew? A man should be with his family in times of crisis. this seems so uncharacteristic of him......

CaptainStacy
07-27-2007, 07:31 PM
Dr. Strange teleported them there, in like two seconds didnt he?.

Also; i like how there is no option for a simple "yes" in your poll. :dry:

ragingdemon155
07-27-2007, 07:38 PM
I don't have a problem with him being on the Avengers. Do I prefer him working alone? Of coarse I do. At his heart Spider-man will always be a loner. Don't get me wrong, I love when he gets the occasional team up via Human Torch or Black Cat. Those are always a blast. But like I said, Spider-man on his own is when he is at his best. The only problem I have with New Avengers regarding Spider-man is that he is generally treated like a B-list Superhero. While Bendis may be my favorite writer, he just can't write 616 Spider-man. There are just certain characters that a writer has no grasp of and for Bendis its the 616 version of Spider-man.

I'm hoping that with this new "Skrull" conspiracy going on right now, Spider-man gets a chance to shine. It's been 30 plus issues now and he's basically done nothing of importance.

Ray-Fu
07-27-2007, 08:07 PM
I like him in the Avengers and seeing him pal around with other heroes, and also getting the respect that he deserves in the hero community...but I agree with RagingDemon. He doesn't seem to be utilized very well on the team. He gets some great one liners in, but other then that...not too much to do :(

Norman Osborn
07-27-2007, 08:16 PM
I've never been a big fan of him on the Avengers...and your poll answers are slightly biased :dry:

Memphis Slim
07-27-2007, 11:06 PM
Hey....it's my first poll....gimme a break. :yay: :whatever:

Memphis Slim
07-27-2007, 11:08 PM
Dr. Strange teleported them there, in like two seconds didnt he?.

Also; i like how there is no option for a simple "yes" in your poll. :dry:


He teleported them to Japan. But they ended up flying back in a Rand Corp jet......which crashed!!! so now he's even later getting back home to his family.

Memphis Slim
07-27-2007, 11:10 PM
Dr. Strange teleported them there, in like two seconds didnt he?.

Also; i like how there is no option for a simple "yes" in your poll. :dry:


Hey...my second answer is a "yes".

Themanofbat
07-27-2007, 11:15 PM
Hey...my second answer is a "yes".

It's a "yes"... but with a "but"...

Which still adds a negative feeling towards saying "yes".

:yay:

Memphis Slim
07-27-2007, 11:17 PM
It's a "yes"... but with a "but"...

Which still adds a negative feeling towards saying "yes".

:yay:



So you'd say "yes" and not go home to his dying aunt and lonely wife? :yay:

SpideyZERO
07-28-2007, 12:37 AM
I enjoy Spidey in the team, but he needs more chance to shine, and more respect

CaptainStacy
07-28-2007, 06:52 AM
So you'd say "yes" and not go home to his dying aunt and lonely wife? :yay:

You know dude...it's a comic book. In REAL life, Peter would probably be sitting at his Aunt's hospital bed 24/7 like any normal person, but that wouldnt sell too many issues now, would it? :dry:

Maybe you should try just try kicking back...relaxing a bit...and enjoying them for what they are?


Just a suggestion. :yay:

Memphis Slim
07-28-2007, 07:17 AM
You know dude...it's a comic book. In REAL life, Peter would probably be sitting at his Aunt's hospital bed 24/7 like any normal person, but that wouldnt sell too many issues now, would it? :dry:

Maybe you should try just try kicking back...relaxing a bit...and enjoying them for what they are?


Just a suggestion. :yay:


Hey...don't get all grumpy on me and play the "it's just a comic book card" on me. we all know that. :csad:

But maybe have his adventures revolve around home base.....like they use to before he joined the team...that's all.

CaptainStacy
07-28-2007, 07:34 AM
Hey...don't get all grumpy on me and play the "it's just a comic book card" on me. we all know that. :csad:

But maybe have his adventures revolve around home base.....like they use to before he joined the team...that's all.

Who's being grumpy? I just think you're searching for stuff to ***** about, but hey; Go for it. what ever floats your boat. :yay:

Im just saying; that type of writing has been going on in comics...since there have been comics for the most part. For example; In any given month you may see Batman fighting The Joker in Gotham in his main comic, fighting Ras Al Ghul in the middle east over in Detective Comics, and then teaming with the JLA to fight Darkseid in outer space in Justice League...

Does it really, REALLY bother you that much?

farmernudie
07-28-2007, 07:42 AM
I dunno about this....i can go either way on it.


The real question is....should JACKPOT join the Avengers!!???

:whatever:

Sloth7d
07-28-2007, 09:37 AM
Bendis can't write Spider-man, so I kinda wish he wasn't on the Avengers right now. Eitherway, I prefer him as a loner.

Memphis Slim
07-28-2007, 10:19 AM
Who's being grumpy? I just think you're searching for stuff to ***** about, but hey; Go for it. what ever floats your boat. :yay:

Im just saying; that type of writing has been going on in comics...since there have been comics for the most part. For example; In any given month you may see Batman fighting The Joker in Gotham in his main comic, fighting Ras Al Ghul in the middle east over in Detective Comics, and then teaming with the JLA to fight Darkseid in outer space in Justice League...

Does it really, REALLY bother you that much?


No. But seems to be bothering you at this point. Batman? He's a whole different kind of character than Spiderman. I can see him doing whatever it takes or sacrificing friends for his cause. But Pete?? I just seems way out of character for him to be going off on adventures while ,his household is going to pot.

I think the writing should reflect it.

freemadison
07-28-2007, 11:02 AM
No. But seems to be bothering you at this point. Batman? He's a whole different kind of character than Spiderman. I can see him doing whatever it takes or sacrificing friends for his cause. But Pete?? I just seems way out of character for him to be going off on adventures while ,his household is going to pot.

I think the writing should reflect it.

Remember when he had Baby Many? He gave up crimefighting so that he wouldn't put his family at risk. Look how well that turned out....

By the way, forget Batman. What about Wolverine? That guy's in more places at once than Jamie Madrox.

Memphis Slim
07-28-2007, 01:20 PM
Remember when he had Baby Many? He gave up crimefighting so that he wouldn't put his family at risk. Look how well that turned out....

By the way, forget Batman. What about Wolverine? That guy's in more places at once than Jamie Madrox.


Wolvie is the definition of "over-exposed".

Spec Spider-Man
08-01-2007, 01:29 PM
No, he should of never joined.

moraldeficiency
08-01-2007, 02:22 PM
At first I liked the idea. But bendis cannot write pete other than as comic relief. Every team member with the exception of Wolverine (almost absent in the book so far) Iron Fist and Strange (brand new) have got a stand alone issue of some type. Pete wasn't even mentioned except for two sentences in the whole Civil War tie-ins. Bendis has got a big hard-on for Spider-woman for some reason and she gets way too much pen. Pete's only good moments in the Avengers came during his NA arc in amazing where he fought hydra (a very good incarnation of hydra I might mention, much better than the hydra "oh please Mrs. Drew won't you lead us?" whining incompetants currently seen in NA). Basically I'm doubting Bendis' ability to write a team drama without glossing over some characters for others (Spider-woman, Sentry) that he feels need boosts.

He loves Luke too, but since I like him, I'm not gonna harp on that.

shinlyle
08-01-2007, 02:56 PM
(yes, the poll is slightly biased)

Still, I don't think he ever should have joined. Seriusly, aside from the Hydra arc, I haven't read one New Avengers story that benefitted from Spider-man's involvement, nor have I read a Spider-man story that benefitted from the Avengers' involvement.

Spider-Man acts like an imbecile in every issue of the Avengers title, and the Avengers act like a bunch of college kids in the Spider-Man books...hanging around, doing nothing. Hell, where were they in "The Other" when Morlun was pounding him to a pulp?! Yeah...some team mates. Also love how they left him up in the hospital room with Mary Jane and no protection. Awesome work. :whatever:

On top of that, I think having an "All Superhero" supporting cast just severely weakens the book and takes away from the "everyman" quality that used to make Spider-Man so appealling.

3dman27
08-01-2007, 03:18 PM
maybe he should go back to being independent of super teams the only good team for him was the SPIDER-FRIENDS

Sloth7d
08-01-2007, 03:46 PM
(yes, the poll is slightly biased)

Still, I don't think he ever should have joined. Seriusly, aside from the Hydra arc, I haven't read one New Avengers story that benefitted from Spider-man's involvement, nor have I read a Spider-man story that benefitted from the Avengers' involvement.

Spider-Man acts like an imbecile in every issue of the Avengers title, and the Avengers act like a bunch of college kids in the Spider-Man books...hanging around, doing nothing. Hell, where were they in "The Other" when Morlun was pounding him to a pulp?! Yeah...some team mates. Also love how they left him up in the hospital room with Mary Jane and no protection. Awesome work. :whatever:

On top of that, I think having an "All Superhero" supporting cast just severely weakens the book and takes away from the "everyman" quality that used to make Spider-Man so appealling.

One thing that peeves me is they could have went into more detail on how the New Avengers faught off the Tracer in the Other. Nope. Instead, we have issues of Pete going to the moon, using time machines that are inconsistant with other stories, MJ seriously owning an armed gunman, and an issue exploring his new powers that are mostly useless or stupid. I really hated that arc. It was the definition of bad.

3dman27
08-02-2007, 05:39 AM
One thing that peeves me is they could have went into more detail on how the New Avengers faught off the Tracer in the Other. Nope. Instead, we have issues of Pete going to the moon, using time machines that are inconsistant with other stories, MJ seriously owning an armed gunman, and an issue exploring his new powers that are mostly useless or stupid. I really hated that arc. It was the definition of bad.
whats wrong with mj defending herself just because SHE isn't a super-hero doesn't ATUOMATICALLY make her a punching bag besides after all shes been through why wouldn't she upgrade her self defense methods?:ninja:

shinlyle
08-02-2007, 07:52 AM
One thing that peeves me is they could have went into more detail on how the New Avengers faught off the Tracer in the Other. Nope. Instead, we have issues of Pete going to the moon, using time machines that are inconsistant with other stories, MJ seriously owning an armed gunman, and an issue exploring his new powers that are mostly useless or stupid. I really hated that arc. It was the definition of bad.

The Other is THE bad arc. FAR worse than Sins Past.

I'm just pointing out how the Avengers were there the whole time, but didn't help out one bit. They fought off Tracer, a C-lister (at best) who can control machines. Wow. I'm sure Tony Stark has never invented a counter-measure for that one....:whatever:

As for the time machine and the MJ/Bruce Lee part, yeah, they were kind of dumb. I could see Mj owning an armed gunman, simply because she's been held hostage by FAR more terrifying and powerful people. Also, logic dictates she would have learned a thing or two. Still, here turning into Kilik from SoulCaliber was totally unneccesary.

kguillou
08-05-2007, 10:44 AM
I think Spidey should stay with the avengers just so long as he stays solo in his own books. The only problem i have is Bendis' interpretation of him in New Avengers. He writes Spidey like the ultimate version, he acts like the Flash in Justice League Unlimited. There's nothing wrong with Spidey being the jokester of the group but sometimes he acts just plain silly and doesnt act like the adult he is. The spidey in new avengers and the spidey in Amazing are two very different people.

Themanofbat
08-05-2007, 09:02 PM
No. But seems to be bothering you at this point. Batman? He's a whole different kind of character than Spiderman. I can see him doing whatever it takes or sacrificing friends for his cause. But Pete?? I just seems way out of character for him to be going off on adventures while ,his household is going to pot.

I think the writing should reflect it.

He's off with the New Avengers because he feels needed as a super-hero and it's his responsibiltiy to act upon it. Besides, he can't be by his Aunt's bedside because he's a wanted fugitive from the federal government.

And anybody who spells "Spider-Man" without the hyphen should stick to reading "Superman" books...

:whatever: :whatever: :whatever:

:yay:

Themanofbat
08-05-2007, 09:08 PM
So you'd say "yes" and not go home to his dying aunt and lonely wife? :yay:

He can still be on a team, and still make sure that his Aunt's needs are met, as is his wife's.

But MJ will always be on the short end of that stick because his responsinility to be a good guy will always oversome his wife's "all lonely" needs because that's who Peter is. Christ... it's not like he's hanging out with the Avengers like it's Club Med...:whatever: :whatever: :whatever: He's part of the New Aengers because he feels that being on that team, Cap's team (whom he feels terrible for getting killed), is the RESPONSIBLE thing to do.

He's neither neglecting his Aunt nor MJ, and if he should be neglecting MJ because she's "lomely", then she needs to understand that Peter's responsibility to be a super-hero will ALWAYS overcome her horny desires to snuggle.

:yay:

Sloth7d
08-08-2007, 03:25 AM
I'm just pointing out how the Avengers were there the whole time, but didn't help out one bit. They fought off Tracer, a C-lister (at best) who can control machines. Wow. I'm sure Tony Stark has never invented a counter-measure for that one....:whatever:



I wouldn't call Tracer a C-lister, after re-reading those issues. If he wanted to, he could pretty much do what Ultrons doing in MA and NA right now. But, he's just one of those villains who's potential wasn't realized.