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Orb
07-30-2007, 05:36 PM
Well which one?

Morg
07-30-2007, 07:18 PM
nyxboxnyboy, you have to wait till you get a email confirmation to post, don't use the alert button. That's only to let us know if any problems arise on the board

You can post now

nyxboxnyboy
07-30-2007, 07:22 PM
Morg, I am sorry that I not mean that. Whatever I am first time on message board. so I would like to see supervillains are Titanuim Man and CRIMSON DYNAMO along Mandarin next in Iron Man 2. I want to see more fight action like fly, weapons, bomb, damage build.

nyxboxnyboy
07-30-2007, 07:23 PM
Morg that your avaitar picture was so hot.

Rocker22
07-30-2007, 08:26 PM
Crimson Dynamo would be cool with a little Fin Fang Foom on the side.

Leto
07-30-2007, 10:41 PM
Personally I'd like the Mandarin to be the big bad villain saved for the last movie of the trilogy. His presence and influence should be felt in the first films, but I'd save him for Iron Man's ultimate challenge.

I'd like to see Tony Stark's alcohlism be the real villain of the next movie. I can imagine someone like Madam Masque or Justin Hammer hiring armored supervillains like the Crimson Dynamo, Titanium Man, Ghost, or Spymaster (Or all of them!) to attack Iron Man physically while Stark is thrown over the edge mentally by a hostile takeover of his company.

Tony descends into alcoholism and has to fight to get his company back. Maybe this also triggers him to stop his leaked Iron Man technology from misuse causing an Armor Wars like event.

I'd also like to see War Machine make an appearance.

Rocker22
07-30-2007, 10:56 PM
Personally I'd like the Mandarin to be the big bad villain saved for the last movie of the trilogy. His presence and influence should be felt in the first films, but I'd save him for Iron Man's ultimate challenge.

I'd like to see Tony Stark's alcohlism be the real villain of the next movie. I can imagine someone like Madam Masque or Justin Hammer hiring armored supervillains like the Crimson Dynamo, Titanium Man, Ghost, or Spymaster (Or all of them!) to attack Iron Man physically while Stark is thrown over the edge mentally by a hostile takeover of his company.

Tony descends into alcoholism and has to fight to get his company back. Maybe this also triggers him to stop his leaked Iron Man technology from misuse causing an Armor Wars like event.

I'd also like to see War Machine make an appearance.

I think that is almost guaranteed at this point, Jon has said Howard joined to be War Machine at one point I believe.

Mr. Wooden Alligator
07-31-2007, 12:50 AM
I'd like to see the dragon Fing Fang Foom appear. I wiki'd the name out of curiosity, and it looks like he kinda ties into the Mandarin, who is a rumored character for Part II, I believe.

Forgive me if I've made a suggestion as bad as wanting Venom in Spider-Man 3. :yay:

Rocker22
07-31-2007, 12:22 PM
I'd like to see the dragon Fing Fang Foom appear. I wiki'd the name out of curiosity, and it looks like he kinda ties into the Mandarin, who is a rumored character for Part II, I believe.

Forgive me if I've made a suggestion as bad as wanting Venom in Spider-Man 3. :yay:

Mandarin is going to be in the first movie with the Iron Monger, so we may hear some about Foom in this one or even might get a glimpse of him, but Mandarin is IM main bad guy so he will be back.

Chris B
07-31-2007, 11:47 PM
Mandarin is going to be in the first movie with the Iron Monger, so we may hear some about Foom in this one or even might get a glimpse of him, but Mandarin is IM main bad guy so he will be back.

Actually its been suggested that Stane/Iron Monger will be the main villain in film, with the Mandarin being saved for the sequel.

Rocker22
07-31-2007, 11:54 PM
I think he has said Monger is the main villian but you see the Mandarin some at the end.

KangConquers
08-02-2007, 04:19 AM
Mandarin with Fin Fang Foom....I know you guys hate the idea, but I can't think of anything I'd geek out for more than Mandarin summoning a 15 story tall dragon and old shell head having to battle it.

3dman27
08-04-2007, 11:52 AM
firebrand maybe?

Iron_Stark
08-13-2007, 03:09 PM
Part 2 should be Mandarin hiring Crimson Dynamo and Titanium Man. Tony's in his alcohlism from the middle of the first act through the second, War Machine can't handle CD and TT byhimself, Tony recovers in the third act Iron Man & War Machine vs Crimson Dynamo & Titanium Man.

Part three, War Machince leaves to make his own spinoff movie and it'll be Iron Man vs Mandarin for the final showdown.

iron_spartan
08-15-2007, 01:22 PM
I think Mandarin should be the villain.

Spider–Man
08-26-2007, 06:26 PM
I'd like to see Spymaster as the brains working for the shadowy overlord (revealed to be Mandarin in the 3rd film - surprise!) with CD or TM as his muscle.

Spider–Man
08-26-2007, 06:27 PM
Part 2 should be Mandarin hiring Crimson Dynamo and Titanium Man. Tony's in his alcohlism from the middle of the first act through the second, War Machine can't handle CD and TT byhimself, Tony recovers in the third act Iron Man & War Machine vs Crimson Dynamo & Titanium Man.

Part three, War Machince leaves to make his own spinoff movie and it'll be Iron Man vs Mandarin for the final showdown.

...or that would be cool, too!:woot:

3dman27
08-27-2007, 06:50 AM
firebrand as an arsonist targeting SI blaming it and tony for his fathers death

drillmaster
08-28-2007, 10:38 PM
Captain America

3dman27
08-29-2007, 06:51 AM
Captain America

i think you have it backwards duting CIVIL WAR shellhead was a CAP villian:hyper:

kedrell
08-31-2007, 08:19 PM
Sunset Bain AKA Madame Menace
http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/2/26/SunsetBain442.jpg

Yeah, I'm just a horny old goat.
I gotta say though, she'd be the 1st evil genius hot chick to be in a SH film.

3dman27
09-01-2007, 06:35 AM
Sunset Bain AKA Madame Menace
http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/2/26/SunsetBain442.jpg

Yeah, I'm just a horny old goat.
I gotta say though, she'd be the 1st evil genius hot chick to be in a SH film.

i had forgotten about her maybe thats hillary swanks role in the movie

fu manchu
09-02-2007, 12:44 AM
if not the Mandarin, then I would like to see Crimson Dynamo and/or the Titanium Man as the main villian. Probably with Justin Hammer involved.

Chris B
09-03-2007, 03:28 PM
One weakness that I have always felt the Iron Man comics had was the lack of a strong rogues gallery. So when it comes to any of the sequels the Iron Man movie may get, it is hard to find a villain that could carry his own movie.

Obviously, we are getting Obadiah Stane/Iron Monger in the first film, which works. But because of that, I doubt we'll see Justin Hammer, Titanium Man, and the Crimson Dynamo all in the same franchise because all three would come off as redundant since we already got the corporate and armored villain in the first film. However, I could see one other armored villain being used, but that would be it.

The Mandarin will most likely be the main villain in part 2, which also works. The Crimson Dynamo could be the second armored villain presented as the Mandarin's hired gun. They could take a que from the Ultimates and make him Chinese. Maybe Spymaster or the Ghost could also make an appeareance. The Mandarin having other people do some of the fighting is in character.

After Stane and the Mandarin, Iron Man really doesn't have any other villains that could carry their own movie. Maybe they could use an Avengers villain for part 3? One idea that I've always liked is that perhaps Count Nefaria and Madame Masque could be utilized here, with guys like Blizzard, Whiplash, and Firebrand as henchmen.

Antonello Blueberry
09-03-2007, 03:34 PM
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Halliburton-man

Iron_Stark
09-05-2007, 05:33 PM
One weakness that I have always felt the Iron Man comics had was the lack of a strong rogues gallery. So when it comes to any of the sequels the Iron Man movie may get, it is hard to find a villain that could carry his own movie.

Obviously, we are getting Obadiah Stane/Iron Monger in the first film, which works. But because of that, I doubt we'll see Justin Hammer, Titanium Man, and the Crimson Dynamo all in the same franchise because all three would come off as redundant since we already got the corporate and armored villain in the first film. However, I could see one other armored villain being used, but that would be it.

The Mandarin will most likely be the main villain in part 2, which also works. The Crimson Dynamo could be the second armored villain presented as the Mandarin's hired gun. They could take a que from the Ultimates and make him Chinese. Maybe Spymaster or the Ghost could also make an appeareance. The Mandarin having other people do some of the fighting is in character.

After Stane and the Mandarin, Iron Man really doesn't have any other villains that could carry their own movie. Maybe they could use an Avengers villain for part 3? One idea that I've always liked is that perhaps Count Nefaria and Madame Masque could be utilized here, with guys like Blizzard, Whiplash, and Firebrand as henchmen.

If Magneto can be a villain throughout the X-Men franchise why can't Mandarin? Mandy's good enough to carry a triology or at least the last two movies. Remeber Favs said something along the lines of Sauran didn't apear in LOTR until the last one.

IMO, if Iron Man vs Iron Monger is a hit with the audiences, I can guarantee Iron Man and War Machine will battle Crimson Dynamo and/or Titanium Man in the sequal (as hired guns by the Mandarin) which would leave IM vs Mandy for the final showdown in part 3.

Chris B
09-06-2007, 04:23 PM
If Magneto can be a villain throughout the X-Men franchise why can't Mandarin? Mandy's good enough to carry a triology or at least the last two movies. Remeber Favs said something along the lines of Sauran didn't apear in LOTR until the last one.

IMO, if Iron Man vs Iron Monger is a hit with the audiences, I can guarantee Iron Man and War Machine will battle Crimson Dynamo and/or Titanium Man in the sequal (as hired guns by the Mandarin) which would leave IM vs Mandy for the final showdown in part 3.

There is a difference between using the same villain and seperate villains that are basicly the same concept. With that said, I wouldn't have a problem if the Mandarin appeared in both parts 2 and 3.

I would hate it if Iron Man 2 simply uses another armored villain. It would be too much like the first film. Besides, the Crimson Dynamo and Titanium Man are more like henchmen. Like I said before, I could see them using another armored villain, but not as the main villain again.

3dman27
09-06-2007, 04:50 PM
madame masque for I.M.2?:ninja:

TheDragonfly
09-08-2007, 09:23 PM
I really wouldn't mind seeing Mandarin throughout the movies

TheWarMachine
09-09-2007, 09:17 AM
Mandaran is the only villain visually interesting enough to handle one film.

KangConquers
09-10-2007, 02:18 PM
Some possibilities.

- Nefaria and Masque would be cool.
- I'd Geek out over MODOK and AIM.
- Crimson Dynamo/ Titanium Man will be redundant after Stane, as will Justin Hammer.
- Whirlwind might be a fun henchman down the line.

GoldGoblin
09-11-2007, 12:11 AM
I'm not familiar with Iron Man villains,but it seems like the Iron Man villains kinda suck,it seems like most of them are just villains that wear a similiar suit that Iron Man wears,like Iron Monger.http://rapsheet.co.uk/RapSheetMain/IronMan.asp

KangConquers
09-13-2007, 11:55 AM
I'm not familiar with Iron Man villains,but it seems like the Iron Man villains kinda suck,it seems like most of them are just villains that wear a similiar suit that Iron Man wears,like Iron Monger.http://rapsheet.co.uk/RapSheetMain/IronMan.asp


Essentially yes...Iron Man's villains are largely 1) rival industrialists 2) rival suits of armor.

How would you guys feel about Radioactive Man being in one of the Iron Man movies?

kedrell
09-13-2007, 01:41 PM
Essentially yes...Iron Man's villains are largely 1) rival industrialists 2) rival suits of armor.

Also...3) espionage based

How would you guys feel about Radioactive Man being in one of the Iron Man movies?

Dunno, kind of iffy on that but he's more plausable than Fing Fang Foom.

ninjaskrzypek
09-13-2007, 05:05 PM
It will ba Mandarin summoning Foom.
Robot suit good guy vs giant dragon epic battle.
Dragons bring kids to movies.
dragons sell toys.
Dragons sell t shirts.
It would make the studio a lot of money.

And Jon will make it cool no matter how hard they try to f it up.

BobJM
09-13-2007, 09:48 PM
My guess is that Mandarin will go through several radical changes to better fit the movieverse.

And I know it may seem redundant, but I think Crimson Dynamo should be in a film. Jon and crew can definitely think up something original for him.

kedrell
09-13-2007, 10:39 PM
Crimson Dynamo, Titanium Man, etc. would work well all together in an Armor Wars story. Toss in any other armored villain you like as well, the Beetle maybe? Ghost, Blizzard? That's about as close as Iron Man get's to something like Spidey's "Sinister Six".

el_chupacabra
09-14-2007, 04:55 AM
I can see the second movie with Stark dealing with alcoholism (see Rhodes come in as Iron Man and War Machine!) as his company is being taken over (could be by The Mandarin if he is pulling Stane's strings in this first film). You also got Nick Fury and SHIELD which could get involved more, possibly stealing Starks technology which could lead to a all out slugfest in the third film with the Armor Wars and dealing with The Madarin!

They have to have the Armor Wars as one of the sequals!! They could make that completely bad ass!!

Captain Clown
10-18-2007, 04:53 AM
I want to see M.O.D.O.K. in a movie, and Fin Fang Foom.

But I think the villain for the next film should be Mandarin.

Iceburgeruk
10-26-2007, 09:53 AM
The point is that a lot of iron man`s villain`s are rip-off iron mans so you can`t have a series of films going:

Iron Man -Iron Monger
Iron Man 2-Titanium Man
Iron Man 3-Crimson Dynamo

People will just get bored very quickly. That is why you have to play off the more unique foes and throw some of them in between so as to spread out the obvious IM rip offs.

So how about villains like the living lazer or ghost? Either could hold their own in a film.

And then for the other villains double up (no more than batman and robin and spidey 3 show how difficult it is to make a superhero movie with 3 or more villains)

so you could have :
spymaster and blizzard
whilwind and whiplash
unicorn and force
etc etc

Also i doubt a war machine movie would sell. He essentially is iron man. He looks like iron man. Does exactly what iron man can do. Has the same foes. Where would the reason be to make a war machine spin off? Its like making a scarlet spider spin off from spiderman movies.

Mr. Wooden Alligator
10-28-2007, 01:30 AM
I'm telling you, Fing Fang Foom would be a great villain or a pawn for the Mandarin.

---Morzan

CorpusBlack
11-01-2007, 11:42 AM
Mandarin in a physical role, Fin Fang Foom, Titanium Man and the Crimson Dynamo. Even though it'd be more suited for an Avengers movie, I'd like to see Iron man square off with Kang. Beetle would be cool too.

Magneto
12-01-2007, 10:40 PM
why isn't there a poll?
well anyway i'd say mandarine

3dman27
12-02-2007, 06:10 PM
mandarin?

Armored Avenger
12-05-2007, 05:20 PM
I heard that Mandarin and Fing Fan Foom would be developed for the sequel.
I love this idea, especially if Fing Fan Foom is a servant of the Mandarin in the film (Keep Mandarin the focus, and dont have him sharing the screen with another villain of equal importance).
I would like the Mandarin to carry on into the third film as well though, and have Iron Man 3 feature an armor wars plot, but instead of Tonys designs being stolen by justin hammer, it could be Mandarin behind it all, and maybe Spymaster could then bebought into the films as well.

Gatchamanjp
12-10-2007, 05:48 PM
I would like to see A.I.M. (Advanced Idea Mechanics) who also created M.O.D.O.K. to be the villains. Unlike the Mandarin, A.I.M. doesn't have to be changed to fit with the present day.

Magneto
12-10-2007, 06:12 PM
mandarin?

What's wrong with Mandarine?

Gatchamanjp
12-10-2007, 09:10 PM
Nothing is wrong with The Mandarin,he is one of my favorite Marvel Villains. But, I like the one with the 10 rings, is a martial arts expert, and also hates his government as well as the USA and especially Iron Man. The Mandarin will probably be changed so much because of political correctness, that I hope he isn't in a Iron Man film.

Magneto
12-11-2007, 12:05 AM
Oh, your probably right, then who should be in it then?

3dman27
12-11-2007, 06:28 AM
firebrand or blizzard

Armored Avenger
12-11-2007, 08:12 AM
Spymaster could be really good in a film, if done correctly.
And i dont see why the Mandarin can not be included. He is a great villain, and i have always liked him.
If political correctness and sterotypes are putting off the filmakers, then they can make the Mandarin like his more recent comic apperances, when he is much more of a manipulating skillful business man, with a mystical element to him, rather than the traditional magical supervillain. He has also gotten rid of the green robes in recent issues and is instead wearing a dark green suit.

Gatchamanjp
12-11-2007, 08:15 AM
M.O.D.O.K, A.I.M, Spy Master, or The Crimson Dynamo would be cool. Maybe if there is an Iron Man 2, The Black Widow could be introduced, and then spun off into her own film.

Armored Avenger
12-11-2007, 06:24 PM
The Crimson Dynamo

Although i love the Dynamo, i dont think he should be in the Films - he is too similar to Iron Monger (an Armored enemy similar to Iron Man).

kedrell
12-11-2007, 06:33 PM
Crimson Dynamo, Iron Monger, & Titanium Man are all very similar. The only way TM &CD would work is as part of an Armor Wars story(that way you'd expect Iron Man to be facing lots of armored adversaries). But Spymaster, the Ghost, Mandarin, Madame Masque, Whiplash, *Justin Hammer, etc. work well since they're quite dis-similar from Iron Monger. I'm sure there are more, but those are the ones that stand out in my mind.

*And yes Justin Hammer IS similar to Obadiah Stane somewhat, but he never put on a suit of armor and fought Iron Man directly. I could see both he and Stane as being part of a cabal that includes the Mandarin in a whole illegal arms dealer type scenario.

Magneto
12-11-2007, 06:39 PM
Although i love the Dynamo, i dont think he should be in the Films - he is too similar to Iron Monger (an Armored enemy similar to Iron Man).


I Agree, What about Titanium Man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium_Man), M.O.D.O.K. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MODOK), Controller (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controller_%28Marvel_Comics%29) or Blacklash (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacklash)?

Gatchamanjp
12-12-2007, 11:01 AM
I would have The Crimson Dynamo as the villain in Iron Man 2, after an overzealous KGB official stole Stark Industries tech to impress the Russian President and allow them to design their own Iron Man. The Cold War may be over, but Russia is re-emerging as a world power and thus it would make sense to include Russia as an enemy of American capitalist Tony Stark. The Black Widow would also be included as she could be asked to kill Tony, and during the attempt fall in love with our hero.
My choice is as The Black Widow would be Olga Kurylenko.

Chris B
12-12-2007, 07:01 PM
I could see both he and Stane as being part of a cabal that includes the Mandarin in a whole illegal arms dealer type scenario.

That's not a bad idea. But I still think Hammer would come across as to much of an Obadiah Stane clone, despite the fact that he's never physically fought Iron Man.

dr.strange
12-15-2007, 12:10 AM
the anti-men

3dman27
12-15-2007, 06:24 AM
the anti-mendo you mean the ANI-MEN?:im:

CorpusBlack
12-17-2007, 03:12 PM
That's not a bad idea. But I still think Hammer would come across as to much of an Obadiah Stane clone, despite the fact that he's never physically fought Iron Man.

I agree.

CorpusBlack
12-17-2007, 03:13 PM
I'd really like to see Fin Fang Foom and Mandarin in pt. 2. The thought of Iron Man battling FFF is awesome, if they could pull it off believably. Crimson Dynamo would be cool to see as well.

simonz43
12-20-2007, 10:39 PM
Part 2 should be Mandarin hiring Crimson Dynamo and Titanium Man. Tony's in his alcohlism from the middle of the first act through the second, War Machine can't handle CD and TT byhimself, Tony recovers in the third act Iron Man & War Machine vs Crimson Dynamo & Titanium Man.

Part three, War Machince leaves to make his own spinoff movie and it'll be Iron Man vs Mandarin for the final showdown.

Yes, i really like this idea :D

DoctorJones
12-29-2007, 06:07 AM
If political correctness and sterotypes are putting off the filmakers, then they can make the Mandarin like his more recent comic apperances, when he is much more of a manipulating skillful business man, with a mystical element to him, rather than the traditional magical supervillain. He has also gotten rid of the green robes in recent issues and is instead wearing a dark green suit.

Definitely. Perhaps for the final battle between him and Iron Man, he can put on the robes as symbolism for the final fight between technology and spirituality as it were.

Dirty Harry
12-29-2007, 06:08 PM
I like the idea of holding off on Mandarin until the last film. It would be nice to see a female villain square off against a hero for once, and not give us some lame cop-out ending or contrived battle. Let's see a female as a stone cold cast iron bee-yotch with no morally redeeming qualities whatsoever (like the psychotic James Bond villainess Xenia Onatopp) and actually have Iron Man kick the living crap out of her in the battle.

Speaking of James Bond, the IM series could shift into a cool superhero version of that type of film easily. Bringing in MODOK and A.I.M. would be like a comicbook supercharged version of Blowfeld & SPECTRE. That would make for some cool on-screen visuals and mind-boggling gadgetry that would make even 'Q' wet his pants. Corporate spying isn't that far removed from the Bond kind.

Have to work in the alcoholism at some point in 2 or 3. A must. Not too fond of more armored villains going up against IM. Comic fans know and love 'em all, but to Joe Sixpack audience member, they'll all sort of blend together. Keep each film separate with a unique villain - and style of villain. Maybe Chameleon? He is kind of 1-dimensional, but would work well in the spy/espionage mold.

I just hope the producers don't go overboard in introducing a zillion types of armor in the sequels just for the sake of generating more action figure sales, like the comics did. Ack. The Batman films are one the worst offenders of this detestable practice.

3dman27
12-30-2007, 06:51 AM
you're right the iron man franchise COULD hark back to old school 007 movies with its villians and gadgets

Jick09
01-01-2008, 11:05 PM
I'd really like to see Fin Fang Foom and Mandarin in pt. 2. The thought of Iron Man battling FFF is awesome, if they could pull it off believably. Crimson Dynamo would be cool to see as well.I don't know why but, always when someone ask about the villain of the second movie, the first thing that comes to my mind is a gold Fing Fang Foon.
I'd like to see him in a sequel, but I'd like him to be a machine, instead of a real monster.

GoldGoblin
01-13-2008, 06:39 PM
How come "The Incredible Hulk" and "Iron Man" both have a bunch of crappy villains?They should just use a "Spider-Man" villain for "The Incredible Hulk" and the "Iron Man" sequels.

3dman27
01-14-2008, 06:40 AM
like whom for greenskin and shellhead respectively?

GoldGoblin
01-14-2008, 05:50 PM
like whom for greenskin and shellhead respectively?

^
Like:
-Molten Man
-Apocalypse and his Four Horsemen
-Jack O' Lantern(or Hobgoblin)
-Omega Red
-Mister Sinister
-Carnage

kedrell
01-14-2008, 06:19 PM
Considering that both have been Avengers, I'd borrow some of their villains rather than Spidey's or the X-Men's. The Avengers have plenty to go around.

3dman27
01-15-2008, 06:25 AM
^
Like:
-Molten Man
-Apocalypse and his Four Horsemen
-Jack O' Lantern(or Hobgoblin)
-Omega Red
-these sound like good opponents for shellhead:im:

Mauser9910
01-17-2008, 04:01 PM
I'd love to see the Living Laser and Whiplash.

Mauser9910
01-17-2008, 04:02 PM
Damn, I think I meant Constrictor instead of Whiplash, sowwy ! :o

Chris B
01-28-2008, 05:22 PM
Considering that both have been Avengers, I'd borrow some of their villains rather than Spidey's or the X-Men's. The Avengers have plenty to go around.

That is within the realm of possibility, IMO. Personally, I still think Count Nefaria wouldn't be a bad choice for a future Iron Man film. I would say in part 3 in a storyline involving Madame Masque.

The IronMan
01-29-2008, 06:16 PM
how about a melter, whiplash, blizzard team up? sounds pretty familiar and it would work well on film

Deathbird
02-20-2008, 06:18 PM
I always liked Gladiator and Titanium Man... might not be in the same time-frame but I remember them both fondly from my childhood :yay:

3dman27
02-21-2008, 06:19 AM
gladiator was a daredevil villian unless you mean the shiar impereal guardsman of the same codename

Deathbird
02-22-2008, 07:56 AM
uhhhh, yea, yea, that's the ticket... yea...:O

The Overlord
03-15-2008, 01:31 PM
^
Like:
-Molten Man
-Apocalypse and his Four Horsemen
-Jack O' Lantern(or Hobgoblin)
-Omega Red
-Mister Sinister
-Carnage

How would any of those guys carry an IM or Hulk movie? Why would IM fight carnage a foe he never faced in the comics. How do build a story around two characters who never met in the comics.

Anyway IM has rogues that aren't IM clones or evil business men (Controller, Living Laser, Ghost...etc) but it be hard for them to carry a movie, but they are better choices than Jack O'Lantern.

Heck the iron Man films wouldn't have the rights to those villains, so it wouldn't work anyway.

Knightsaber Priss
03-29-2008, 09:04 AM
I'd love to see Fin Fang Foom if only just to hear the actors say his name. :oldrazz

BobJM
04-07-2008, 03:03 PM
The two that I definitely want to see are Crimson Dynamo and Titanium Man. What I can't decide is whether to introduce the Mandarin with them or Justin Hammer (saving, Mandarin for IM3).

Of course CD and TM would have to have their origins updated. No more Soviet Russia or KGB. Maybe have CD Asian like his Ultimates counterpart (cementing the relationship between him and the Mandarin's group?).

3dman27
04-07-2008, 03:04 PM
that could work

SurfDUI
04-07-2008, 03:06 PM
Madam Masque:hehe:
Madam Masque:hehe:
Madam Masque:hehe:
http://www.republiquelibre.org/cousture/bd/images2/ZIRON9.GIF

kedrell
04-07-2008, 03:36 PM
^I agree SurfDUI. I eventually want to see her at some point as well.

BobJM
04-07-2008, 06:51 PM
Madam Masque is interesting, but I want Bethany Cabe to be Stark's next love interest. She played a key part in Tony's recovery from his alcoholism and I'd really love to see some Demon in a Bottle elements in IM2, which I believe we are getting.

Pink Ranger
04-08-2008, 12:52 PM
I would love to see the Hollywood take on Modok, especially if its really gruesome.

Regardless of who the villain is, I would like to see Iron Man take on one or more giant mechs. Like, building-sized mechs.

Chris B
04-08-2008, 03:45 PM
Madam Masque:hehe:
Madam Masque:hehe:
Madam Masque:hehe:
http://www.republiquelibre.org/cousture/bd/images2/ZIRON9.GIF

I would say use her in the third film along with Count Nefaria.

SurfDUI
04-08-2008, 03:58 PM
Modok, especially if its really gruesome.

Regardless of who the villain is, I would like to see Iron Man take on one or more giant mechs. Like, building-sized mechs.


Back in the Day Iron Man was more of a dark alley kind of crime hero. At times. The technical angle was always there, then he has the arcs of magic and mysticism, recently he's been the national threat kind of guy, which is good. I feel leave the small stuff the the alley swingers, and let the suit fight. Another good turn would be someone to get control of him in the suit.

And I'd like to see the Ghost:grin:

Knightsaber Priss
04-10-2008, 11:40 AM
^I agree SurfDUI. I eventually want to see her at some point as well.

But not played by the wooden Megan Fox. She's the worst actress I've ever seen. A paper bag couldn't act its way out of her.

kedrell
04-10-2008, 01:16 PM
I never suggested Megan Fox. I agree, she can't act. Back in the day I kind of thought Linda Florentino would've made a good Whitney Frost.

SurfDUI
04-10-2008, 03:51 PM
I never suggested Megan Fox. I agree, she can't act. Back in the day I kind of thought Linda Florentino would've made a good Whitney Frost.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/usa_films/where_the_money_is/linda_fiorentino/money.jpg

I can see that, she's got some miles on her by now. She has the deep voice that I'd hope she has. Maybe a Jill Hennesy, Marishtika Harrgety, maybe.

IronHulk
04-11-2008, 01:33 PM
Iron Abomination or wait, The Mandarin Leader, oh wait, those are my villains! What about Mandarin?

terry78
04-12-2008, 11:19 AM
There can be a couple small time villains he deals with, but I want Mandarin to be behind the scenes, until possibly movie three, when he faces Stark mano a mano. Maybe have someone create an Ultron-like giant robot for him to take out.

3dman27
04-12-2008, 11:50 AM
There can be a couple small time villains he deals with, but I want Mandarin to be behind the scenes, until possibly movie three, when he faces Stark mano a mano. Maybe have someone create an Ultron-like giant robot for him to take out.

would ULTIMO fillthe bill?

BobJM
04-12-2008, 01:14 PM
I want to be introduced to Mandarin in the 2nd film and have him actually meet Stark during a gala or something but have him be saved as a villain until the 3rd. Tony will have a casual conversation with him, completely oblivious to his true nature.

Have Iron Man and War Machine deal with Crimson Dynamo and Titanium Man (maybe from the US government instead of the KGB?) and maybe even throw in a business rivalry with Hammer.

Chris B
04-13-2008, 12:23 AM
I was thinking about this, but it sorta make more sense for Madame Masque to have a role in IM2 considering that Tony's alcoholism may be a major plot point. It would make sense for her to be involved in causing it.

Maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea to save the Mandarin for IM3, instead using Masque and Count Nefaria in Part 2.

S.A.A.D
04-13-2008, 12:53 AM
I think it would be cool if something happened to Mandarin making him become half a cyborg with him wearing all 10 rings as well,it can be his own doing,hmmm. His obsession with wanting to destroy Stark can be the driving force to making himself become a half bad ass cyborg.

Lebeau
04-13-2008, 01:40 AM
There can be a couple small time villains he deals with, but I want Mandarin to be behind the scenes, until possibly movie three, when he faces Stark mano a mano. Maybe have someone create an Ultron-like giant robot for him to take out.

Jesus christ...I can't believe it took 10 months for someone to get to this...and the first suggestion wasn't even it...but man oh man, ULTIMO!

I don't know whether he should be saved for an Avengers film, but I reckon Ultimo would be awesome. Crimson Dynamo would be cool, but the Soviet angle is outdated...so the only way you can move away from a political angle and keep it current without messing around with men in suits is to have Iron Man fight a robot.

With Ultimo you can see the contrast between Stark (who's rapidly advancing technology is slowly leading to the suits AI taking over) and Ultimo, who is the ultimate 'creation gone wrong scenario.' Have Ultimo attempt to supplant international government and leave Iron Man and War Machine to fight him...all the while Iron Man can be battling his alcoholism forcing War Machine to come into action. I mentioned it in the alcoholism thread, but I'd love to see Stark at a point where he's too drunk to get into the Iron Man suit whilst someone's off destroying something...Ultimo would be perfect for this. Introduce War Machine while Stark is too ****ed to battle...and then have them join together to defeat Ultimo.

Mandarin can be worked into the plot as well as the mysterious guy behind the scenes leading into a confrontation in the third film.

My only concern is the fact that Ultimo may be a bit too powerful...he's an Avengers villian for a reason, cos he's such a huge threat that you need all of the world's mightiest heroes to defeat him. But a decent idea nonetheless..

GoldGoblin
04-14-2008, 11:58 PM
-Blizzard
-Mandarin

terry78
04-15-2008, 12:05 AM
wPVXP2uNr9M

This seems pretty feasible for a final movie. :o

athena
04-24-2008, 03:12 PM
Mandarin + FIN FANG FOOM!!

I dont know why people think this would be silly. FFF isnt a dragon really, just a giant reptiloid alien that looks like one. The Chinese saw these aliens and thought they were dragons. How is that any sillier than Stargate, where the ancient Egyptian gods are aliens? :huh:

And the mandarin's rings are not magic -- they are alien technology. (I think maybe thats what they're doing with teh "Crystal Skulls" in the new Indy movie, ie technology that looks like magic.)

Why have even more villains that are just guys in costumes? That's been done already in Spiderman & Batman, over & over. Borriiing. But alien technology that controls alien reptiles, that would be cool and different. Enter the Dragon!!! :word:

Lebeau
04-25-2008, 05:43 AM
Haha, I'm not so sure about alien technology being more original than a dude in a costume. Mandarin's a very different character too...he's a great villian, and one that will come across brilliantly on film. I like the idea of Fing Fang Foom as well...but I'll still be waving the flag for Ultimo til death.

Ceb-Man
05-04-2008, 02:58 PM
Mandarin in Iron-man 2.
MODOK in Iron-Man 3

Comic_maniac
05-04-2008, 04:03 PM
i think an iron man vs whiplash battle could be pretty intense

terry78
05-04-2008, 05:04 PM
I doubt they'll go the alien route with these movies, but use more sci-fi type stuff. Mandarin's actual rings will more than likely be weapons that he creates himself, and if they did incorporate Fin Fang Foom, it would be some type of bio-experimental creature.

ThatDamnNinja
05-04-2008, 09:05 PM
I think it's important that we avoid retreads of Obadiah Stane/Iron Monger, which is why I'm wary of Justin Hammer, Titanium Man, Crimson Dynamo. However, there also has to be a real, physical, palpable threat to Iron Man for the movie to work. Mandarin and Fin Fang Foom should be saved for the final film, so Iron Man 2 is stuck in kind of a jam.

The thing to do, I suppose, is make the whole movie less formulaic and abandon the idea of one singular villain with whom Iron Man will have a final battle with at the end. I think an effective and interesting film can be made of Iron Man's inner battles, the use of some combination of Madame Masque, Beetle, Spymaster, and/or Ghost, and tension that leads to a battle with War Machine, who, though an Iron Man clone, would be more interesting than Titanium Man or Crimson Dynamo due to the personal relationship between Stark and Rhodes, and the fact that Rhodes isn't evil.

Chris B
05-04-2008, 11:26 PM
I think it's important that we avoid retreads of Obadiah Stane/Iron Monger, which is why I'm wary of Justin Hammer, Titanium Man, Crimson Dynamo. However, there also has to be a real, physical, palpable threat to Iron Man for the movie to work. Mandarin and Fin Fang Foom should be saved for the final film, so Iron Man 2 is stuck in kind of a jam.

I agree. Though I think they could get away with using one more armored villain. I think they could take a que from the Ultimates and make the Crimson Dynamo Chinese and present him as being the Mandarin's personal enforcer.

Those two would pretty much be my choices for villains in IM2. Then with IM3, bring in Madame Masque and Count Nefaria.

DraXXXen
05-05-2008, 01:25 AM
I kinda would like to see villains who, while not as powerful as Iron Man, cause problems other ways: Mainly Ghost and Spy-master, sabatoge stark technology leading to factory destruction, and the armor mis-firing and killing an innocent in public view (contracted by Mandarin, once again working as puppet master in the shadows, only casually mentioned).

SurfDUI
05-05-2008, 11:33 AM
Listen to all the thinkers here:cwink:-
Good thing about Stark is that the similarites between he and Bruce is that they both own large corporations and functions as vigilantes. That makes a dual threat to both enties a good story. Bruce is limited to rooftops though, but IM can travel anywhere, to any of Stark's interests or threats. I agree, Spymaster was always one of my fav's. I don't think Taskmaster has been mentioned, that leads to another organizational threat., Madame masque will make me most giddy, but she can't take down IM, although she can wield a weapon against Tony, and get close enough to use it. Corporate takeovers and inside trading aren't so interesting unless they have an armored hired gun. If he battles nothing but the bottle, that could be explored too. As long as they don't go the SP3/B&R route and introduce half a dozen characters in the next one, it'll be excellent.

anrrd_2
05-05-2008, 11:33 AM
well...i think it is possible that obadiah lived..ulness i missed something proving otherwise. perhaps some of the other armoured villians, possibly working for "the ten rings"....titantium-man and the crymson dynamo would be the best in my opinion.

terry78
05-05-2008, 11:47 AM
More than likely any other enemies he encounters will all be under Mandarin's thumb in some way or another. Basically leading up to, "all this **** that's been going on in the world, he's been behind it."

SurfDUI
05-05-2008, 11:48 AM
I say go for the throat-
Bring in DOOM:cmad::hehe:, they'd have to anyway by the time IM makes it to #4

terry78
05-05-2008, 12:00 PM
I hope to one day just see one big Marvel heroes vs. villains crossover movie, done in an LOTR style. Just have most of the big names go at it in a giant battle, taking on their respsective villains. The budget would be in the billions, but whatever. :o

anrrd_2
05-05-2008, 12:02 PM
^that would be pretty cool....2.5 billion dollar pricetag with less than 1 billion in revenue. LETS DO IT!

ShadowBoxing
05-05-2008, 12:55 PM
Radioactive Man

Armored Avenger
05-05-2008, 01:11 PM
Hasn't it basically been confirmed by Downey Jr and Favreau that The Mandarin will be the villain of the sequel? In every interview when they mention Iron Man 2, they always say they would like to include The Mandarin.

Knightsaber Priss
05-05-2008, 01:30 PM
MODOK in Iron-Man 3

No no no. For the third movie I'd go with a huge battle royal pitting Ironman and War Machine against most or all of Ironman's battle armored foes, introducing Ezekiel Stane as the new Iron Monger. That would be much more palatable to non comic readers like yours truly. Was this what was called the Armor Wars in the comics?

SurfDUI
05-05-2008, 01:37 PM
Was this what was called the Armor Wars in the comics?

No, Armor Wars he went after his stolen tech from a host of armored super villians, the army and Captian America dressed up as U.S. Agent.

athena
05-05-2008, 05:57 PM
I doubt they'll go the alien route with these movies, but use more sci-fi type stuff. Mandarin's actual rings will more than likely be weapons that he creates himself, and if they did incorporate Fin Fang Foom, it would be some type of bio-experimental creature.

That could be pretty cool if the Mandarin created a lifeform to look like a Chinese dragon. Like the villain in SKY CAPTAIN who made his own mutant monsters.

Fletch F Fletch
05-05-2008, 06:35 PM
http://www.calscustoms.com/ccv3/gallery/01CrimsonDynamo.jpg

or

http://www.leaderslair.com/ironman/ironmanv3-017.jpg

or

http://andy.gamerscircle.org/images/mandarin.jpg

3dman27
05-06-2008, 06:13 AM
http://www.calscustoms.com/ccv3/gallery/01CrimsonDynamo.jpg

or

http://www.leaderslair.com/ironman/ironmanv3-017.jpg

or

http://andy.gamerscircle.org/images/mandarin.jpg

the middle one's a red x

The Overlord
05-06-2008, 09:59 AM
No, Armor Wars he went after his stolen tech from a host of armored super villians, the army and Captian America dressed up as U.S. Agent.

That seems like too many villains, people were unhappy with 3 villains in Spidey 3, how can you sell that many villains in one movie?

FaT_tONle
05-06-2008, 01:19 PM
I like AIM/MODOK... I get that Titanium Man and Dynamo are retreads along with Hammer but those are still A-list villains. If they just make Mandarin the main guy that's fine as well. But there should definitely be more armor wars.

Fletch F Fletch
05-06-2008, 10:19 PM
the middle one's a red xit was Foom.

Mr. Wooden Alligator
05-06-2008, 10:35 PM
Yeah, I'd like to see old Foom. To build on Terry's idea of the Mandarin bioengineering Foom, I could totally see it. He's of Chinese descent, right? Maybe he could take a que from a tablet on some ancient temple and decide to create a dragon to serve as his minion. Due to their legendary status, controlling such a creature would automatically instill fear and respect in the people of his homeland. Yeah, Mandarin and Foom for Part 3. :up:

RonStoppablefan
05-07-2008, 12:36 AM
Hmm two villains for the second film? I suggested the third if we have one, but for the second. I mean we don't want to many plots going on where people will be like What?? But I guess they could do it right. I was thinking have one villain here/storyline/character development than set up at the end of the second film for the next villain. But out of any villain I'd really want the Mandarin for this one, I just think his storyline is freakin awesome. I like all of his villains really but this guy's my fav.

TheVileOne
05-07-2008, 03:28 AM
You guys seem to be ignoring something important.

Iron Man takes place in the same universe as all the new upcoming Marvel Studios films. Including what? THOR.

They said Iron Man 2 will help introducing Thor in the movies.

So what's that mean? It means that you can't keep MAGIC or mystical elements out of the Iron Man movie sorry. It has to be addressed eventually. How can you guys be so close-minded about Mandarin having mystical rings of magic power, then have Iron Man team up with Thor in an Avengers movie? That does not make sense.

So that means yes, they can and SHOULD use Mandarin and yes EVEN FIN FANG FOOM.

Guys know what Favreau said at SDCC last year? He talked about in the Marvel panel with the VIVA ROCK VEGAS announcement that Fin Fang Foom is in the story because he's a villain they would've wanted to use in the first movie, but couldn't because it would've been a little too crazy. However, from his verbage he didn't totally rule out the possibility of this character ever appearing in an Iron Man movie. Simply it would've been a bad idea to try and introduce Fin Fang Foom in the first one.

Yes the X-men, Spider-man, and Nolan Batman films are all great for their grounded realism.

But if Marvel Studios is SERIOUS about their direction, this means that they simply have to push these limits a little more. And that means fanboys have to let go of some of their own preconcieved notions that some of these characters could never work or be executed onscreen.

FaT_tONle
05-07-2008, 08:34 AM
Aw hell no... Fin Fang Foom??? There is no freaking way we see a villain like that... Mandarin with the ten alien rings is mystical enough. And for a third installment, MODOK could be the perfect spin off villain after an Avengers movie for IM3... along the lines of The Leader in Hulk... assuming they use HYDRA or AIM for Avengers ofcourse.

CaptainStacy
05-07-2008, 12:45 PM
Triple F for the win! :up: :cwink:

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/CaptainStacy/untitled-2.jpg

The Guard
05-07-2008, 03:12 PM
The Mandarin. He should be pulling the strings, perhaps with Justin Hammer in league with him. Crimson Dynamo would make sense in a sort of supporting/henchman role, as others try to emulate Stark's weapons. And of course Stark himself should be his own worst enemy.

athena
05-07-2008, 08:13 PM
Yeah, I'd like to see old Foom. To build on Terry's idea of the Mandarin bioengineering Foom, I could totally see it. He's of Chinese descent, right? Maybe he could take a que from a tablet on some ancient temple and decide to create a dragon to serve as his minion. Due to their legendary status, controlling such a creature would automatically instill fear and respect in the people of his homeland. Yeah, Mandarin and Foom for Part 3.

That. Would. Be. Wicked. COOL!

Yeah, I wanna see Foom. Whether he's a dragon or an alien or a bioengineering experiment. Think of the awesome special effects! We've already had the guys in armored suits fighting, the producers need to up the ante for the visuals now.

CaptainStacy, love your pic.

AragornKing1
05-07-2008, 08:25 PM
That seems like too many villains, people were unhappy with 3 villains in Spidey 3, how can you sell that many villains in one movie?

Yeah, but Sandman, Green Goblin 2, and Venom had no connection to each other. More than one villain in Iron Man 2 can work if one or two of them are henchman.

CaptainStacy
05-07-2008, 09:10 PM
That. Would. Be. Wicked. COOL!

Yeah, I wanna see Foom. Whether he's a dragon or an alien or a bioengineering experiment. Think of the awesome special effects! We've already had the guys in armored suits fighting, the producers need to up the ante for the visuals now.

CaptainStacy, love your pic.


Thanks!

The Guard
05-07-2008, 09:58 PM
Why would someone bioengineer a dragon?

terry78
05-07-2008, 10:15 PM
Why would someone bioengineer a dragon?

Because they're crazy?

Bren
05-07-2008, 10:44 PM
I'd like to see Mandarin in IM2, because the 3rd movie starring Iron Man is going to be Avengers and they probably won't use Mandarin in that film...

athena
05-07-2008, 10:44 PM
Why would someone bioengineer a dragon?

Because it would be totally awesome?

Bren
05-07-2008, 10:45 PM
Because it would be totally awesome?

Indeed :woot:

terry78
05-07-2008, 10:46 PM
Honestly, if you want it a little more "reality based", just have Mandarin create Ultimo. That would be more than enough specatcle for a sequel. Or have him and War Machine tag team it.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/ultimoim1.jpg

Bren
05-07-2008, 10:55 PM
I just don't understand the need for this realism. Iron Man is 'realistic' because he's a scientist. I'd love to see him battle with a foe that he is completely baffled by. Like he keeps trying to find a technical answer to how the enemy is doing what he's doing, but can't. Because it isn't tech.

Eventually he accepts it and accepts he has to think way out the box to be victorious. The age old saying know thy enemy.

terry78
05-07-2008, 10:57 PM
That's how fanboys are. When you get into the realm of mysticism, they're like, "that's too corny and goofy for my favorite comic characters!"

athena
05-07-2008, 11:10 PM
Yeah, the advantage of the Mandarin is that with his story you could have multiple "henchmen" villains -- Foom, Ultimo etc, all created by him -- in the same movie!

FaT_tONle
05-07-2008, 11:28 PM
Mandarin with Foom could work if done right... it would have to be robotic though... I don't think we have time with guys like Hammer and Dynamo and Titanium Man... a tag team with IM/WM against two other armors is a waste of time. Ultimo might actually work a lot better than Foom though.

Bren
05-07-2008, 11:40 PM
Mandarin with Foom could work if done right... it would have to be robotic though...


For God's sakes, why would it need to be????????
Realism? Realism be DAMNED!

Make David Banner a guy who has a radioactive skin desease from his exposure, and have it so that whenever he scratches the eternal itch it releases this radioactivity into the atmosphere and kills millions. When he gets nervous/scared, the itch gets irresistable.

See, that's more realistic than a pissed off green behemoth.

The Senator
05-08-2008, 01:22 AM
I would be most interested in seeing Mandarin on the big screen. But if they want to go the "realistic" route, I could see Crimson Dynamo, Titanium Man or Justin Hammer as viable alternatives.

The Guard
05-08-2008, 01:08 PM
In all seriousness. Why would someone bioengineer a dragon when he could develop much more dangerous weapons? The cool factor isn't enough. We've seen dragons before.

AragornKing1
05-08-2008, 03:21 PM
Guys, there are some characters that are more out there and fantastical than others. They all can exist in the same world and are going to. Why can't you all just accept that.

FaT_tONle
05-08-2008, 03:34 PM
Doesn't matter... there are better villains for the world that was established... Ultimo would be no different than Foom other than the fact that its more grounded to the movie world. I don't mind if they go with Foom as long as they have a decent explanation for it. Long as we get Mandarin we are set.

AragornKing1
05-08-2008, 05:01 PM
Doesn't matter... there are better villains for the world that was established... Ultimo would be no different than Foom other than the fact that its more grounded to the movie world. I don't mind if they go with Foom as long as they have a decent explanation for it. Long as we get Mandarin we are set.


That's what I'm talking about. All you fanboys think that because the villain in the first movie is a little bit down to earth, to a certain extent, you all think that a villain like Fin Fang Foom or MODOK would be going too far. Nothing is established. There are no rules. I'm tired of all this "established" and "realistic" ********. Just knock it off.:whatever:

AragornKing1
05-08-2008, 05:02 PM
Doesn't matter... there are better villains for the world that was established... Ultimo would be no different than Foom other than the fact that its more grounded to the movie world. I don't mind if they go with Foom as long as they have a decent explanation for it. Long as we get Mandarin we are set.

There are no rules in the movie world dude, especially the superhero movie world. They should be fantastical events happening to fantastical characters in our world. That's what makes them much more exciting, seeing them come to life.

AragornKing1
05-08-2008, 05:04 PM
Doesn't matter... there are better villains for the world that was established... Ultimo would be no different than Foom other than the fact that its more grounded to the movie world. I don't mind if they go with Foom as long as they have a decent explanation for it. Long as we get Mandarin we are set.

And how is Ultimo grounded more in the "movie" world? Because he's a giant robot? That's just as fantastical as a giant alien dragon.

Comic_maniac
05-08-2008, 07:18 PM
i think it'll be risky to put some magical elements and villains in these movies. people are just so used to superhero movies trying to establish a realistic style. but they are gonna have to, once they introduce Thor, so i dont see a problem with any villain really...as long as he's bad a$$!

and i think it'll be pretty exciting and different. we'll see though

athena
05-08-2008, 08:23 PM
In all seriousness. Why would someone bioengineer a dragon when he could develop much more dangerous weapons? The cool factor isn't enough. We've seen dragons before.


Well, the first movie already dealt with the dangers of weapons technology, so it would need to be something new for #2. People nowadays are also scared of biological weapons and genetic modification, so this could be the theme for the new movie. The Mandarin's an evil genius. In addition to bio-weapons like new viruses he could have the power to engineer new lifeforms. Think of Foom as being like Godzilla, only instead of being a genetic mutation caused by radioactivity he could be an artificial lifeform from a lab.

Add to this the role that dragons have in Chinese mythology -- they are almost like gods -- and Mandarin would have a weapon that would have a powerful effect on the Chinese people.

That's just one possibility, mind you. They could also go with Foom as an alien being, which to me would be cool because most aliens look too humanoid to me.

Anyway, does it really matter so much? Indiana Jones is a realistic hero in a realistic world, and they use all kinds of mystical stuff in those movies. Doesn't seem to bother anyone.

FaT_tONle
05-08-2008, 08:34 PM
I am not saying Foom can't work... if he is used him selectively, along the lines of the Kraken in POTC: DMC... they don't HAVE to use Ultimo... but obviously Mandarin will need some help... guys like Crimson Dynamo and Titanium Man... even if they are updated versions... are too similar to Iron Monger.

For an opening sequence... assuming Raza somehow survived from the first film... Mandarin could feed him to Foom... something like that works.

Superhero 101
05-08-2008, 09:24 PM
Justin Hammer And Mandarin would make a good duo.

FaT_tONle
05-08-2008, 10:12 PM
Justin Hammer And Mandarin would make a good duo.

So who is the power villain then?

3dman27
05-09-2008, 06:29 AM
So who is the power villain then?

the arsonist FIREBRAND

CaptainStacy
05-09-2008, 08:24 AM
Are you guys familiar with The Mandarin? He alone would be a match for Iron Man, and probably War Machine as well. At the same time.

Guy's a bad ass. :word:

Iron_Stark
05-09-2008, 08:42 AM
^^^ Yup, Mandarin should be the main villain for the sequel.

athena
05-09-2008, 11:21 AM
Box office gross now stands at over $120 million after just ONE week -- by the end of this weekend IM will probably have surpassed the complete gross of last summer's F4: Rise of the Silver Surfer. This is HUGE, folks. We are looking at the next Batman/Spiderman type franchise. Should be plenty of sequels to come, with lots of roles for everyone's favorite bad guys.

But I'd still like to see the Mandarin in the next one. I hope they don't put him off for too long...

The Guard
05-09-2008, 02:11 PM
Well, the first movie already dealt with the dangers of weapons technology, so it would need to be something new for #2.

But going from the jericho missle and armor to...a dragon?

Anyway, does it really matter so much? Indiana Jones is a realistic hero in a realistic world, and they use all kinds of mystical stuff in those movies. Doesn't seem to bother anyone.

The Indiana Jones movies set a precent for the mysticism right off the bat. And I've gotta be honest, Fin Fang Foom is a FAR cry from the kinds of things you see in the Indiana Jones movies.

I mean, if they use a dragon, they use a dragon. But it just smacks of "Hey, let's put a dragon into the movie because it's cool".

Raiden
05-09-2008, 02:16 PM
I think Mandarin is fine, but his name isn't very PC (I can imagine that it might offend some Chinese audience oversea), and his powers (the rings) imo don't really work against an armored hero like IM on the big screen. I think IM's villains should be mostly tech-based, like Iron Monger, and Mandarin can work behind the scene and only show up during the big climax. Crimson Dynamo can be reworked to fit the current political climate in Russia, and I think he'd be a good villain for IM2.

AragornKing1
05-09-2008, 02:38 PM
I think Mandarin is fine, but his name isn't very PC (I can imagine that it might offend some Chinese audience oversea), and his powers (the rings) imo don't really work against an armored hero like IM on the big screen. I think IM's villains should be mostly tech-based, like Iron Monger, and Mandarin can work behind the scene and only show up during the big climax. Crimson Dynamo can be reworked to fit the current political climate in Russia, and I think he'd be a good villain for IM2.

They are not going to be offended dude. I'm sure the people in China read the Iron Man comic books and know of the Mandarin. No white people were offended by Obadiah Stane being white. You fanboys really need to knock it off.

Bren
05-09-2008, 02:47 PM
I mean, if they use a dragon, they use a dragon. But it just smacks of "Hey, let's put a dragon into the movie because it's cool".

Well no, it's more like "hey let's put fff in because.... well because we're making a comic movie about Iron Man and fff just so happens to be an Iron Man foe. And because it'll be cool"

athena
05-09-2008, 04:22 PM
But going from the jericho missle and armor to...a dragon?

Well, more like going from the Jericho missile (which taps into the public's fears of WMDs) to a mutant monster (which taps into their fears of genetically modified viruses, crops, and other DNA experiments). It's a timely issue and should resonate with audiences.

FaT_tONle
05-09-2008, 04:30 PM
I am all for having a different type of threat... mech warriors going at it ala Tranformers gets lame after a while... though Fin Fang Foom may be too overthetop. Not my first choice to say the least. Plus its not like we haven't seen enough dragons in Hollywood.

AragornKing1
05-09-2008, 04:41 PM
Well no, it's more like "hey let's put fff in because.... well because we're making a comic movie about Iron Man and fff just so happens to be an Iron Man foe. And because it'll be cool"

Who cares what the reason for putting Fin Fang Foom in the sequel is. It's a superhero movie, they can do anything as long as it's cool and not cheesy.

The Guard
05-09-2008, 08:38 PM
Well, more like going from the Jericho missile (which taps into the public's fears of WMDs) to a mutant monster (which taps into their fears of genetically modified viruses, crops, and other DNA experiments). It's a timely issue and should resonate with audiences.

I have never in my life met someone who feared genetic mutation, or genetically mutated dragons. Ever.

Why don't you just say "The Mandarin can be about weapons but still have a dragon"?

anrrd_2
05-09-2008, 08:48 PM
I have never in my life met someone who feared genetic mutation, or genetically mutated dragons. Ever.

Why don't you just say "The Mandarin can be about weapons but still have a dragon"?

not a day goes by when i dont cower at the thought of a genetically mutated dragon destoying everything i know..not one single day!


and when it comes to me in my dreams...it usually looks something like this!
http://trilliumcg.com/mattsworld/Images/trogdor.jpg

The Guard
05-09-2008, 09:48 PM
Hnnh. I figured it would look like Cybil Shepard.

anrrd_2
05-09-2008, 09:50 PM
nothing compares to trogdoar and all his majesty!

i take it your not familiar with strongbad and his email answer videos.....enjoy!
http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail58.html

athena
05-10-2008, 09:49 AM
I have never in my life met someone who feared genetic mutation, or genetically mutated dragons. Ever.


Well no, but having Iron Man fight a crop of genetically modified wheat would be kinda lame.:woot:

Seriously though, there is something creepy about DNA modification, like crossing spiders with goats (don't laugh, it's been done) and it makes some people uneasy. That's why for the Spiderman movie they changed the radioactive spider that bites Peter Parker to a genetically modified spider. They wanted to tap into modern-day fears.

CaptainStacy
05-10-2008, 10:24 AM
I think Mandarin is fine, but his name isn't very PC (I can imagine that it might offend some Chinese audience oversea), and his powers (the rings) imo don't really work against an armored hero like IM on the big screen. I think IM's villains should be mostly tech-based, like Iron Monger, and Mandarin can work behind the scene and only show up during the big climax. Crimson Dynamo can be reworked to fit the current political climate in Russia, and I think he'd be a good villain for IM2.

There was already an "armored man vs armored man" fight in the first one. They need to come up with something a little different for the sequel. Mandy's rings can do considerable damage, and could look really cool in use on the big screen.

3dman27
05-11-2008, 06:20 AM
blizzard maybe?

Iron Burger
05-12-2008, 08:07 PM
I'd like to see a team of weaker villains messing with Iron Man by being clever and not fighting him and War Machine directly until they are forced to. I'd also like a Thor cameo to set up the bigger plot going on in the background where Iron Man faces things beyond his understanding ie magic and alien technology. These combined threats make Iron Man convinced that the Avenger Initiative is an important step in his mission as the world's weapon inspector, now expanded into a larger universe. This would set up the Avenger film as ultimately being Iron Man's third in a trilogy as the skeleton of it was set-up in the first two films.

Arkady Rossovich
05-15-2008, 09:09 PM
Are you guys familiar with The Mandarin? He alone would be a match for Iron Man, and probably War Machine as well. At the same time.

Guy's a bad ass. :word:

Many do not know about him,including myself. But I heard he was the main foe of Iron Man,so that's the logical choice.

Iron_Stark
05-16-2008, 08:17 AM
After seeing the new Mummy trailer, does anyone think we'd get Fin Fang Foom and Mandarin's Terracotta Army?

Sentinel X
05-18-2008, 11:51 AM
I want the Extremis storyline. I know its one of the newer storylines but its just soooo freakin cool. I have the comics and I love them!! Plus it can make the sequel darker!
Check it out here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkHItRwZf-M

AkHItRwZf-M

GoldGoblin
05-19-2008, 11:01 PM
They could just make Mandarin's rings technolgy made instead of them being magic rings.

3dman27
05-20-2008, 05:38 AM
or they could have mandarin THINK the rings are magic when they are actually extraterrestrial spy gadgets

Leto
05-20-2008, 09:59 AM
Or they could be alien technology like they are in the comics.

And the Mandarin would know this, like he does in the comics.

GoldGoblin
05-20-2008, 12:53 PM
Alien technology will be way better than magic.

anrrd_2
05-20-2008, 01:20 PM
with the introduction of thor, nothing is off limits. anything that once seemed way too outlandish to most people will now be more feesible than ever. magic? thor covers it. alien technology? sure why not.

Chris B
05-20-2008, 04:11 PM
On a related note, how should some of Iron Man's other rogues, besides the Mandarin, be adapted? I think having most of them be apart of the Ten Rings in some capicity would be the best approach. For the Crimson Dynamo, I would say take a que from the Ultimates and make him Chinese. While Boris Bulski should remain the Titanium Man, but instead have him be a rogue Russian general who leads the Russian arm of the Ten Rings. Guys like Whiplash, Blizzard, etc. can be mercaneries bankrolled by Justin Hammer or the Mandarin.

The Guard
05-21-2008, 12:10 PM
Worldwide armor wars. Just do it all in one fell swoop.

kedrell
05-21-2008, 03:00 PM
On a related note, how should some of Iron Man's other rogues, besides the Mandarin, be adapted? I think having most of them be apart of the Ten Rings in some capicity would be the best approach. For the Crimson Dynamo, I would say take a que from the Ultimates and make him Chinese. While Boris Bulski should remain the Titanium Man, but instead have him be a rogue Russian general who leads the Russian arm of the Ten Rings. Guys like Whiplash, Blizzard, etc. can be mercaneries bankrolled by Justin Hammer or the Mandarin.

Hmm, interesting. I wonder how Madame Masque would fit in there. Maybe play up her position in organized crime and have that organization linked in some way to the 10 Rings.

Chris B
05-21-2008, 03:28 PM
Hmm, interesting. I wonder how Madame Masque would fit in there. Maybe play up her position in organized crime and have that organization linked in some way to the 10 Rings.

I think something along those lines could work.

Roaring_Hulk!
05-21-2008, 05:13 PM
I'd like to see a mechanical Fing Fang Foom.

Jick09
05-22-2008, 11:16 PM
I'd like to see a mechanical Fing Fang Foom.
oh me too!
I think I've suggested this before.
I'd also like to see Titanium Man.
his armor and powers were pretty good in the PS2 game. he would differ from Iron Monger.

Chris B
05-27-2008, 05:52 PM
Here's a question, if we were going to get one more armored villain, who would you pick: Titanium Man or Crimson Dynamo?

I've always liked the Titanium Man more.

3dman27
05-28-2008, 06:16 AM
Here's a question, if we were going to get one more armored villain, who would you pick: Titanium Man or Crimson Dynamo?

I've always liked the Titanium Man more.

i'd say the dynamo

louiebling$
05-28-2008, 04:49 PM
M.O.D.O.K(jack black) * RUNS*

The Question
05-29-2008, 10:09 PM
They could just make Mandarin's rings technolgy made instead of them being magic rings.

His rings are technological. Always have been. The thing with the Mandarin is that, like Doctor Doom, he blends science and military tactics with mysticism and spiritual rituals. That, combined with his taste for antiques and anachronistic clothing, gives the impression that he's solely a dark sorcery type. But he is a highly skilled scientist and engineer, just one with a personal philosophy that, when you get right down to it, the only difference between science and magic is point of view.

The Question
05-29-2008, 10:21 PM
Also, I anctually kind of like the bio-engineering idea for Fin Fang Foom. But, here's a thought to make it slightly more sensible and true to the comics: Instead of The Mandarin fiddling with random DNA to get something that looks like a dragon, why not simply have him find a fossil that, through it;s own unique properties, has highly preserved DNA samples in it, and clones Fin Fang Foom from it. Leave it up to the viewer whether or not the creature is an alien, an as of yet unknown species of dragon, a Cthullu like elder god, or simply a god damned dragon. It's a bit less coincidental that The Mandarin stumbling upon a cave with a sleeping FFF, and is both truer to the comics and less random then him messing with DNA for ****s and giggles.

xMaNiAx
05-29-2008, 11:22 PM
didn't john want Fing Fang Foom at one point? lol the name it self is too funny to say out loud..

Anubis Raptor
06-03-2008, 03:01 AM
Top 3 villains:

1.Mandarin
2.Titanium man
3. MODOK

*Also I would like to see Iron Man battle The Incredible Hulk!




I am Iron Man!!!!!

louiebling$
06-03-2008, 12:26 PM
I would like him to take out the hulk as well lets see the hulkbuster

Ironfan72
06-03-2008, 02:13 PM
My top villians for Iron Man 2,

1) Mandarin
2) Spymaster
3) Crimson Dynamo

louiebling$
06-03-2008, 02:21 PM
Crimson dynamo would also be awesome... but we've seen iron monger already lets see a new type of villain

Ironman24
06-03-2008, 02:26 PM
If you want to get away from Armored villians, then Mandarin is the top choice, however, Iron Man has some pretty good non-armored villians like Spymaster, Ghost, Blacklash, Madam Masque and Blizzard.

louiebling$
06-03-2008, 02:47 PM
I think mandarin shouldn't be till the third but in the second he is establishd and is the man behind the strings..... more like an entity in the second film have fing fang foom be introduced show his minions in th second film then have him come in the third

Chris B
06-03-2008, 03:41 PM
I'm thinking that we'll get the Mandarin and Fin Fang Foom, with maybe the Crimson Dynamo thrown in as well.

Armored Avenger
06-04-2008, 03:26 PM
The Mandarin and Fin Fang Foom are what I think we will see in Iron Man 2, and they are the villains that I want to see, especially The Mandarin. It will be great to finally see him in a movie. I wonder if he will use magic to battle directly against Iron Man, or if he will be a behind the scenes style character who uses others, such as Fin Fang Foom, to battle for him, like he did in the first film with the Terrorist organisation and Iron Monger.