Confirmed - Bioshock on PS3!

[Devil May Cry]

http://n4g.com/News-56277.aspx

In a recent interview conducted by Gamepro, Ken Levine, one of the developers working on the game, Gamepro asked him if the game would ever be seen on the PS3, he did not confirm nor did he deny the possibility of the game going on the PS3.However, he replied that “Right now are focused on the X360 version.

GAMEPRO
GP: Also, another comment you might not be too open to talking about, but will we be seeing or hearing anything about Bioshock on the PS3 down the road?

LEVINE: Right now we’re totally focused on making the game for Xbox 360. Microsoft has been a great partner, we love the platform, and we get to make a PC game as well. That’s great because we come from the PC side, but right now we’re focused on getting the game out the door on the platform that we’re on and that we love.


Furthermore, Jeux-france have the game listed as been on the PS3 as well:

Name: Bioshock
Version: PC
Editor: 2K Games
Developer: Irrational Games
Kind: Action/RPG
Exit EUP: 2007
US Exit: 08/2007

And finally, when IGN sat down with former Microsoft Executive Peter Moore in an interview, and asked him about their game portfolio for this year, he replied:

We do a lot of portfolio planning, not only with first part, but also with third party. On top of those this year both BioShock and Splinter Cell 5 are exclusive to our platform. And also having power of a franchise like Grand Theft Auto day-and-date [with the PS3 release] on Xbox 360 helps enormously as well. Yeah, you have to do a bit of portfolio planning, but it’s a high-caliber problem to have.

While nothing has been confirmed yet so except “right now”, we may very well be seeing a confirmation somewhere next year about Bioshock on the PS3.


That came out of nowhere. The wierdest thing I've ever heard of.

[TheBat812]

I hope to high heavens this is true. I want this game.

[Electro UK]

OPM had a preview for Bioshock in their second issue too, I'd love to get it on PS3.

The developers of Mass Effect said they'd bring that to PS3 if enough interest was raised too.

Petion time!

[hippy fascist]

this is seriously stretching things. You're talking about reading between thel ines on three seperate comments all of which are saying it's an Xbox 360 exclusive?????? This is sketchier than the metal gear rumours :o

[GFreeman]

OPM had a preview for Bioshock in their second issue too, I'd love to get it on PS3.

The developers of Mass Effect said they'd bring that to PS3 if enough interest was raised too.

Petion time!

I don't doubt that Bioshock will make it eventually, but Mass Effect is an impossibility. I'm pretty sure Bioware can't put out those games without Microsoft publishing.

[kytrigger]

this is seriously stretching things. You're talking about reading between thel ines on three seperate comments all of which are saying it's an Xbox 360 exclusive?????? This is sketchier than the metal gear rumours :oAgree. The idea that he didn't say it wasn't comign to PS3 means absolutely nothing. It honestly reminds me of the 3 Blind Mice from Fables. "How do we know this is the way to the Farm? Well, nobody told us this ISN'T the way, so it must be the way".

If anything, those articles prove that Bioshock probably wouldn't come to the PS3 for another couple years anyway since they aren't developing for it in any way.


While It would be cool as hell to get Bioshock and Mass Effect for the PS3, I am definately not holding my breathe.

[hippie_hunter]

I can see Bioshock going on the Playstation 3, simply because they're published by Take-Two, but hell will freeze over before Mass Effect appears on the system.

[Devil May Cry]

this is seriously stretching things. You're talking about reading between thel ines on three seperate comments all of which are saying it's an Xbox 360 exclusive?????? This is sketchier than the metal gear rumours :o

It was announced for the PS3 at first, then it became a 360 exclusive. He didn't deny anything. Hideo has denied everything. There is a difference.

[hippy fascist]

amf prey was announced for the gamecube first I believe... :huh:

what difference does that make?

[Devil May Cry]

Oh God. Bioshock has never been a Halo type exclusive. They agreed to make it exclusive for the 360, but they never agreed on whether or not it is timed. It could very well be a timed exclusive and the PS3 could receive the game in a year or so. Moreover, if someone were to ask you...


"Are you making this game for the PS3"

and you were to give a "no comment" answer, would that not sway you towards believing that its exclusivity might not be permanent? Look at Capcom, they said "we have no plans of making a 360 version" which is even more direct than what these guys said. Look at what happened.

[Purple Prancer]

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on cluttering up space :confused:

[XtromaniaK]

But he didn't say "no comment". He said that they're focusing fully on the Xbox 360 version of the game. Which would mean that there is no PS3 version in development at this point in time. Which would also mean it'd be at least a couple years before you even saw the game on the PS3, which by that time, would be a worthless addition.

And I don't remember it being announced for PS3 at any point in time. :huh:

[Devil May Cry]

But he didn't say "no comment". He said that they're focusing fully on the Xbox 360 version of the game. Which would mean that there is no PS3 version in development at this point in time. Which would also mean it'd be at least a couple years before you even saw the game on the PS3, which by that time, would be a worthless addition.

And I don't remember it being announced for PS3 at any point in time. :huh:

The Jeux france site (damn frenchies) had it as being on the PS3. He didn't deny it is what I'm saying. Sure, it might come a lot later (2 years is a stretch. By then, we'll be gearing up for Xbox 540 lol). He didn't deny it, which is something Kojima did. I know there is no PS3 version being developed. I'm agreeing with you. He didn't answer the question. It's a yes or no. Kojima said no. Capcom said no. But he doesnt say no.

[XtromaniaK]

The Jeux france site (damn frenchies) had it as being on the PS3. He didn't deny it is what I'm saying. Sure, it might come a lot later (2 years is a stretch. By then, we'll be gearing up for Xbox 540 lol). He didn't not deny it, which is something Kojima did. I know there is no PS3 version being developed. I'm agreeing with you. He didn't answer the question. It's a yes or no. Kojima said no. Capcom said no. But he doesnt say no.

It's because he's open to the possibility, probably. Irrational isn't a Xbox-centric developer, they're more neutral ground. Which would make sense as to why they would leave the door open for any potential game development deals. But I don't exactly know if it'll actually happen, and I can't see jeux-france having any foresight into this matter.

I mean, cool, it might come. But by the time it actually would hit the PS3, it would really just be irrelevant because most people would've already picked it up for PC and/or 360.

[WhatsHisFace]

I can see Bioshock going to the PS3 after a while of Xbox 360 exclusivity.

[Devil May Cry]

It's because he's open to the possibility, probably. Irrational isn't a Xbox-centric developer, they're more neutral ground. Which would make sense as to why they would leave the door open for any potential game development deals. But I don't exactly know if it'll actually happen, and I can't see jeux-france having any foresight into this matter.

I mean, cool, it might come. But by the time it actually would hit the PS3, it would really just be irrelevant because most people would've already picked it up for PC and/or 360.


Everything you said here is valid. I completely agree. It won't be relevant. But I really like this game and so do a lot of PS3 exclusives owners, so it's good for everyone to get a game that they like. That's why I wasn't pissed about DMC4. That's a great games that everyone needs to play. They should even put it for the Wii (make it look better than DMC3).

[XtromaniaK]

Everything you said here is valid. I completely agree. It won't be relevant. But I really like this game and so do a lot of PS3 exclusives owners, so it's good for everyone to get a game that they like. That's why I wasn't pissed about DMC4. That's a great games that everyone needs to play. They should even put it for the Wii (make it look better than DMC3).

Yeah. That's true. Though, if that happened with every game you'd see Halo and Mass Effect on PS3 and Wii and FFXIII, SSMB, and Super Mario Galaxy on 360, Wii, and PS3.

[WhatsHisFace]

Everything you said here is valid. I completely agree. It won't be relevant. But I really like this game and so do a lot of PS3 exclusives owners, so it's good for everyone to get a game that they like. That's why I wasn't pissed about DMC4. That's a great games that everyone needs to play. They should even put it for the Wii (make it look better than DMC3).
Putting it out on the Wii would be a disaster and and insult to the game Irrational has made. The Wii is incapable of doing what Bioshock needs to do.

[Devil May Cry]

Yeah. That's true. Though, if that happened with every game you'd see Halo and Mass Effect on PS3 and Wii and FFXIII, SSMB, and Super Mario Galaxy on 360, Wii, and PS3.

I don't think Bioshock is the caliber of those others though in terms of potential sales. How much do you see it selling? Halo 3 is too close to it. LOL MS should just release Halo so no other game is affected. Halo is September, right? When is Bioshock?


Edit: WHF. LOL I was referring to DMC4. Calm down.

[XtromaniaK]

Putting it out on the Wii would be a disaster and and insult to the game Irrational has made. The Wii is incapable of doing what Bioshock needs to do.

I think he was talking about DMC4, not BioShock.

:huh:

[XtromaniaK]

I don't think Bioshock is the caliber of those others though in terms of potential sales. How much do you see it selling? Halo 3 is too close to it. LOL MS should just release Halo so no other game is affected. Halo is September, right? When is Bioshock?


Edit: WHF. LOL I was referring to DMC4. Calm down.

I think BioShock is in September as well. Either that, or late august. I can't remember.

:o

[Devil May Cry]

I think BioShock is in September as well. Either that, or late august. I can't remember.

:o

If I'm the typical Xbox 360 owner, I'll look at the $60 bucks in my pocket and decide between the two. Then again, you prolly already ordered Halo 3, so why get Bioshock now and then play Halo 3 later? I'd get halo 3, finish the campaign, then buy Bioshock. Wait a few months to recuperate, then get Mass Effect. When does PGR come out?

[XtromaniaK]

If I'm the typical Xbox 360 owner, I'll look at the $60 bucks in my pocket and decide between the two. Then again, you prolly already ordered Halo 3, so why get Bioshock now and then play Halo 3 later? I'd get halo 3, finish the campaign, then buy Bioshock. Wait a few months to recuperate, then get Mass Effect. When does PGR come out?

Also in September. That seems to be the time that people like to release their games for some reason. :huh:

[Devil May Cry]

Also in September. That seems to be the time that people like to release their games for some reason. :huh:


September is a great date. That and November. December is always great for Nintendo people. For some reason, Sony has done well in the past releasing in Spring, so we'll see if they can follow. But yeah, I'll be back in college, so I won't have time to be playing..like 4 games simultaneously. My roommate has both systems, so I'll probably play Halo 3 online and Ratchet on the weekends. I also really want GT5 Prologue for some reason.

[Zenien]

OPM had a preview for Bioshock in their second issue too, I'd love to get it on PS3.

The developers of Mass Effect said they'd bring that to PS3 if enough interest was raised too.

Petion time!

The developers of Mass Effect actually said that? We do know that they have confirmed that they are working on a PS3 game, everyone just assumed it would be a version of Dragon Age.

The 'Bioshock on PS3' rumors have been around for a while, when Bioshock was still early the developers said 'So far we've only announced it for the 360, but you might hear more around November'. So we never heard anything. It's possible, by peter Moore's wording, that Bioshock is a timed exclusive. Interesting that he would make such a potential slip up and Bioshock and Splinter Cell.

[XtromaniaK]

The developers of Mass Effect actually said that? We do know that they have confirmed that they are working on a PS3 game, everyone just assumed it would be a version of Dragon Age.

Considering that Mass Effect is being published by Microsoft, that's quite impossible/improbable.

[Devil May Cry]

Considering that Mass Effect is being published by Microsoft, that's quite impossible/improbable.

The PS3 doesn't need Mass Effect. That would be asking for too much. It is being published by MS, but it is going to the PC IMO so MS does not have the rights to it. They financed it and are delivering it to consumers, but I'm not sure if that means that they have the rights to it. Couldn't they just get another publisher if they wanted it on PC, for instance? Bioware is an independent company that has allied itself with MS...ostensibly at least. With something like Naughty Dog it's different. SOny owns all or at least partially all of their stock. They are the parent company.

Mass Effect will never come to PS3. Bioshock could and I also believe Conviction is a timed exclusive. I have no proof of that though. I...gotta feelin'.

[Zenien]

Well with Peter Moore basically saying that both games are 'Exclusive to our platform this year' it leads you to wonder.

[XtromaniaK]

The PS3 doesn't need Mass Effect. That would be asking for too much. It is being published by MS, but it is going to the PC IMO so MS does not have the rights to it.

You do realize that MS supports the platform that they're releasing it for on PC, right? It's a little OS called Windows. They're doing the same thing with Halo, but that doesn't mean they don't have rights to it. At the very least, MS has a contractual agreement with BioWare that binds them to an exclusive agreement. Hence the reason why MS would publish it themselves.

Here's a hint: The more copies it sells overall, the more money MS makes. Which would explain why it's going to PC. Just like most of the exclusives that MS has. The PC doesn't belong to one company, it belongs to many. Though for every game released on the Windows OS, MS gets more money.

[XtromaniaK]

Well with Peter Moore basically saying that both games are 'Exclusive to our platform this year' it leads you to wonder.

Maybe because they are both exclusives, for the platform, that are coming out this year? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. Sheesh, how one simple turn of phrase can raise such "deep thought" is amazing.

[Devil May Cry]

You do realize that MS supports the platform that they're releasing it for on PC, right? It's a little OS called Windows. They're doing the same thing with Halo, but that doesn't mean they don't have rights to it. At the very least, MS has a contractual agreement with BioWare that binds them to an exclusive agreement. Hence the reason why MS would publish it themselves.

Here's a hint: The more copies it sells overall, the more money MS makes. Which would explain why it's going to PC. Just like most of the exclusives that MS has. The PC doesn't belong to one company, it belongs to many. Though for every game released on the Windows OS, MS gets more money.

I never questioned the fact that they're getting paid from it. They need to, all things considered. You were right about the PC version. For some reason, I keep thinking about FFVII when I think about the PC and publishing and not the fact that...it's Microsoft.

[Devil May Cry]

SPOnG: What happened to the PS3 version?

Ken Levine: If I talk about anything outside of the Xbox 360 version, my corporate overlords will spank me. We love the 360, we love working on it and we’re not talking about any other versions right now.

SPOnG: Was it the case that Microsoft splashed the cash then?

Ken Levine: My friend, I can say nothing more – except that we’ve had great support from Microsoft.

If you want this game and you don't have a 360 or gaming rig PC, you can afford to wait.

http://spong.com/detail/editorial.jsp?eid=10109632&cid=&tid=&pid=&plid=&page=4&cb=229


Uhm......WHAT THE F**K? LOL Microsoft ruling these companies with an iron first. hahah I love it I love it. That has the stench of timed exclusive all over it. And notice that he mentions a "PS3 version" that had existed before hand. We shall see though

*puts on flame suit*

[XtromaniaK]

SPOnG: What happened to the PS3 version?

Ken Levine: If I talk about anything outside of the Xbox 360 version, my corporate overlords will spank me. We love the 360, we love working on it and we’re not talking about any other versions right now.

SPOnG: Was it the case that Microsoft splashed the cash then?

Ken Levine: My friend, I can say nothing more – except that we’ve had great support from Microsoft.

If you want this game and you don't have a 360 or gaming rig PC, you can afford to wait.

http://spong.com/detail/editorial.jsp?eid=10109632&cid=&tid=&pid=&plid=&page=4&cb=229


Uhm......WHAT THE F**K? LOL Microsoft ruling these companies with an iron first. hahah I love it I love it. That has the stench of timed exclusive all over it. And notice that he mentions a "PS3 version" that had existed before hand. We shall see though

*puts on flame suit*

Well, actually he didn't mention it, the interviewer did. :cwink:

[GFreeman]

Actually, I think Mass Effect might be possible. Bioware does own the IP.

[XtromaniaK]

Actually, I think Mass Effect might be possible. Bioware does own the IP.

Though Microsoft is the publisher. I think there's probably some sort of publisher agreement set in place that only allows for the game to appear on certain consoles as the publisher sees fit. And Microsoft isn't going to let go of a game that easily. If they're publishing it, there has to be some sort of contract in place. And BioWare will be ****ed if they break contract with MS.

[Devil May Cry]

Well, actually he didn't mention it, the interviewer did. :cwink:

Aw come on, man. I can't get s**t here, can I? :woot:

It makes no difference. I just want to play Bioshock....badly. Since I'm getting a 360, I'll most likely play it there.

Edit: Yeah I'm sure MS paid for it, so no it won't go to PS3. See, if they just were in charge of its release, they wouldn't have as stringent a contract. So, if I pay you to make something for me, then you turn around and use my money for my archrival, I would kill you! :mad:

[블라스]

BioShock is eventually going to Ps3.
People STILL need to realize that big 3rd party exclusives are over.

[GFreeman]

I know that they're the publisher, so it's not the most likely thing in the world, but it is a possibility I think. I don't know what kind of deal Microsoft has with Bioware, but if it's just the usual publishers contract with no extra strings, then Bioware should be able to shop the game around to other publishers for other platforms after a set amount of time. I'm pretty sure MSG published Jade Empire before Bioware took it to 2k games for the PC version.

[Zenien]

More like we can afford to make you wait. ;)

http://www.quickstartexpert.com/images/money_hat_small.jpg

[XtromaniaK]

I know that they're the publisher, so it's not the most likely thing in the world, but it is a possibility I think. I don't know what kind of deal Microsoft has with Bioware, but if it's just the usual publishers contract with no extra strings, then Bioware should be able to shop the game around to other publishers for other platforms after a set amount of time. I'm pretty sure MSG published Jade Empire before Bioware took it to 2k games for the PC version.

But PC and PS3 are two different things, my friend. I can't see MS ever limiting a games release to the PC through contract. Though, I can easily see them doing everything in their power to keep every game they can out of Sony's hands. This is the multi-billion dollar corporate giant we're talking about. They will shell out outlandish amounts of cash to rain on Sony's parade, it's what they do.

If MGS4 has a 1% chance of going to the 360, then Mass Effect has a .01% chance of going to the PS3.

[WhatsHisFace]

I know that they're the publisher, so it's not the most likely thing in the world, but it is a possibility I think. I don't know what kind of deal Microsoft has with Bioware, but if it's just the usual publishers contract with no extra strings, then Bioware should be able to shop the game around to other publishers for other platforms after a set amount of time. I'm pretty sure MSG published Jade Empire before Bioware took it to 2k games for the PC version.
The developer (Bioware) owns the IP, but the publisher (Microsoft) owns the code. (Sometimes the publisher owns the IP but these days developers hold onto their IP dearly). Anyway, Mass Effect will never be on the PS3, and since Bioware and Microsoft have a three-game deal, Mass Effect 2 and 3 will be Xbox exclusives as well. Mass Effect 4-100 can go where ever Bioware wants, as long as the game publisher complies (i.e. if Microsoft opts to publish Mass Effect 4 and Bioware agrees, it's not going to be on the PlayStation.

Microsoft worked out a deal with 2K games to give them publishing rights, much in the same way they let them handle Dungeon Siege from here out. Bioware can't just take the code to 2K games and say "Mass produce, ship and market this".

[WhatsHisFace]

But PC and PS3 are two different things, my friend. I can't see MS ever limiting a games release to the PC through contract. Though, I can easily see them doing everything in their power to keep every game they can out of Sony's hands. This is the multi-billion dollar corporate giant we're talking about. They will shell out outlandish amounts of cash to rain on Sony's parade, it's what they do.

If MGS4 has a 1% chance of going to the 360, then Mass Effect has a .01% chance of going to the PS3.
As the owner of the code, Microsoft would not work out a deal with a publisher if they were going to port it to the PS3. They would never sign to a contract like that.

[Devil May Cry]

The developer (Bioware) owns the IP, but the publisher (Microsoft) owns the code. (Sometimes the publisher owns the IP but these days developers hold onto their IP dearly). Anyway, Mass Effect will never be on the PS3, and since Bioware and Microsoft have a three-game deal, Mass Effect 2 and 3 will be Xbox exclusives as well. Mass Effect 4-100 can go where ever Bioware wants, as long as the game publisher complies (i.e. if Microsoft opts to publish Mass Effect 4 and Bioware agrees, it's not going to be on the PlayStation.

Microsoft worked out a deal with 2K games to give them publishing rights, much in the same way they let them handle Dungeon Siege from here out. Bioware can't just take the code to 2K games and say "Mass produce, ship and market this".

:up:

[GFreeman]

But PC and PS3 are two different things, my friend. I can't see MS ever limiting a games release to the PC through contract. Though, I can easily see them doing everything in their power to keep every game they can out of Sony's hands. This is the multi-billion dollar corporate giant we're talking about. They will shell out outlandish amounts of cash to rain on Sony's parade, it's what they do.

If MGS4 has a 1% chance of going to the 360, then Mass Effect has a .01% chance of going to the PS3.
I don't think they'll spend money just for the hell of it. After, lets say 2 years, after that amount of time, how many PS3s is Mass Effect really going to move? Not that many, if any, and that would be Microsoft's only stake in it, so I don't think they would bother doing anything to stop it. And regardless, I'm not even sure they could. I don't really know what their deal with Bioware is like. I really don't think it's going to happen, but it's possible I guess.

[GFreeman]

The developer (Bioware) owns the IP, but the publisher (Microsoft) owns the code. (Sometimes the publisher owns the IP but these days developers hold onto their IP dearly). Anyway, Mass Effect will never be on the PS3, and since Bioware and Microsoft have a three-game deal, Mass Effect 2 and 3 will be Xbox exclusives as well. Mass Effect 4-100 can go where ever Bioware wants, as long as the game publisher complies (i.e. if Microsoft opts to publish Mass Effect 4 and Bioware agrees, it's not going to be on the PlayStation.

Microsoft worked out a deal with 2K games to give them publishing rights, much in the same way they let them handle Dungeon Siege from here out. Bioware can't just take the code to 2K games and say "Mass produce, ship and market this".
Mass Effect - PS3 edition is a 100% certainty, and it will probably dominate the 360 version. Accept it :dry:

[XtromaniaK]

As the owner of the code, Microsoft would not work out a deal with a publisher if they were going to port it to the PS3. They would never sign to a contract like that.

Yeah, I know. Microsoft, like I said, will do anything in their power to keep blockbuster games out of Sony's hands. Bill Gates would probably rather give all of his fortune to the starving children of Africa than let one more exclusive fall into Sony's lap. Microsoft is probably the most skillful company when it comes to forcing unbreakable contracts.

[WhatsHisFace]

Mass Effect - PS3 edition is a 100% certainty, and it will probably dominate the 360 version. Accept it :dry:
How could it not? With 4-D graphics running at 120 frames per second and real-time-weapon-change... the 360 is owned.

[The Guardian]

How could it not? With 4-D graphics running at 120 frames per second and real-time-weapon-change... the 360 is owned.

OFCOURSE IT IS!!!:o (LOOKS AT WHF HOLDING THE HEAVENLY SWORD) WHAT??? WAIT, NO, NO STOP, IT WAS A JOKE, IT WAS A JOKE, NO NOT THOSE I NEED THOSE, AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!:eek::eek::eek::oldrazz::D:up:

[hippie_hunter]

If MGS4 has a 1% chance of going to the 360, then Mass Effect has a .01% chance of going to the PS3.

If MGS4 has a 99% chance of going to the 360, Mass Effect would still have a 0% chance of going on the PS3. It's not even a third party game for crying out loud!

Why the hell are we even talking about a PS3 version of Mass Effect anyways!

[XtromaniaK]

If MGS4 has a 99% chance of going to the 360, Mass Effect would still have a 0% chance of going on the PS3. It's not even a third party game for crying out loud!

Why the hell are we even talking about a PS3 version of Mass Effect anyways!

Because some people are hopelessly idealistic and are living in a dream world where, in time, even Halo could go to the PS3. Oh, they are also lacking in reading comprehension, as well.

[Zenien]

As the owner of the code, Microsoft would not work out a deal with a publisher if they were going to port it to the PS3. They would never sign to a contract like that.

If Microsoft only owned the code there'd be nothing stopping them from simply porting the game from scratch without using the existing codebase. ;)

I understand what you're saying, it seems absurd that Bioware would say they'd port it if enough interest was generated (any source on that, did we get one?). As an IP holder they could still create a Mass Effect game, seperate from the core trilogy but it hardly seems worth the effort. (granted for a while now Bioware has been elusive on re-confirming an actually trilogy)

Still if they said what they we're hearing they did there's a chance we don't know the full scope of the details behind the agreement with MS. I mean everyone was always like "There's no chance of any Bioware game coming to the PS3 because of the agreement they have with Microsoft, yet Bioware has said they are working on a project for the PS3. I'm not saying it's Mass Effect, it's most likely the "Totally not going to be KoToR, really!" MMO, or a version of Dragon Age.

On the topic of Bioshock, it's obvious something is up, the biggest evidence of that is the interview with SPONG (I have a feelling were the interview fake something would have happened by now), which adds fuel to the Bioshock fire, but also the Splinter Cell fire given the comments that Peter Moore made.

Find this sort of speculation annoying? My advice would be to deal with it, this is nothing compared to the constant, annoying, desperate, and repetitive MGS4 on the 360 meme that has been going on for like ever since MGS4 was first shown.

[GFreeman]

I don't think Dragon Age is going to be ported, it'll probably be Jade 2.

[Zenien]

God I hope not. :dry:

[GFreeman]

The PS3 would be damn lucky to have a game like Jade Empire 2 :dry:

[Zenien]

Only to make people appreciate the good games that much more. :dry:

[GFreeman]

Yeah, they'd say "look, with the arrival of Jade Empire 2, we finally have one". Ha! :cmad:

[XtromaniaK]

Find this sort of speculation annoying? My advice would be to deal with it, this is nothing compared to the constant, annoying, desperate, and repetitive MGS4 on the 360 meme that has been going on for like ever since MGS4 was first shown.

You're right, this is even more retarded than the 'MGS4 on the 360' speculation. I don't see why people aren't just willing to accept the fact that Mass Effect is never going to the PS3. It might go to the PC, for sure, but the PS3 will never happen. MS wouldn't allow it.

BioShock? That's a little more tricky. The developers have clearly stated that there's no PS3 version in development as they are "fully focused" on the 360 version of the game. Which would mean that BioShock PS3 would be more of an afterthought than a block-buster game for the PS3. I can't see it selling anywhere near the amount of copies that the 360 or PC versions will by the time it was released on the PS3.

/shrug :huh:

[Purple Prancer]

...





what the **** is a meme?
*checks pants*
:o

[Zenien]

A meme (IPA: /mi:m/) is defined within memetic theory as a unit of cultural information, cultural evolution or diffusion that propagates from one mind to another analogously to the way in which a gene propagates from one organism to another as a unit of genetic information and of biological evolution. Multiple memes may propagate as cooperative groups called memeplexes (meme complexes).



http://www.wikipedia.com

[Purple Prancer]

I'm so glad now :dry:

[Devil May Cry]

Snake calls his first generation nanomachines that, doesn't he? Hopefully, they don't kill him at the end. Is it the nanomachines that Naomi puts in him or his Big Boss, Les Enfantes Terribles "genes?"

I wonder if Naomi can control when they kill you. It would make sense with Liquid. Plus, I never understood why Solidus was experiencing rapid cell degeneration. He should look like the others.

Ah, the memories.

And I agree with Xtro, Mass Effect going to the PS3 is absurd. If you don't gotta Xbox, it hurts...until Final Fantasy XIII comes in. I think I will like both equally.

[블라스]

How the HELL can someone hate the GREATNESS that is Jade Empire???? :cmad: :mad: :down

[XtromaniaK]

How the HELL can someone hate the GREATNESS that is Jade Empire???? :cmad: :mad: :down

I know, it's a crime. :csad:

[Devil May Cry]

It was ok for Bioware. They've done better work. It was too easy (there were some points in KOTOR that were rather difficult, like defeating Malak as a light side Jedi with no dark side powers to destroy those tanks) and the story wasn't quite as interesting.

[Zenien]

It's TERRIBLE. Horrible cambat system, horrible story, horrible dialogue system, horrible ending, horrible loading times. Horribly horrible horrible.

Snake calls his first generation nanomachines that, doesn't he? Hopefully, they don't kill him at the end. Is it the nanomachines that Naomi puts in him or his Big Boss, Les Enfantes Terribles "genes?"

Les Enfant Terrible isn't related to the Nano Machines. The Nano machines inside Snakes body are the ones Naomi put in him slightly before MGS1 started.

I wonder if Naomi can control when they kill you. It would make sense with Liquid. Plus, I never understood why Solidus was experiencing rapid cell degeneration. He should look like the others.

Naomi has no control over them, anymore. She was the one who programed them before injecting them into Snake right before the custcene in MGS1. She set foxdie witha random time value to activate. It was the best punbishment she could think of, to have him live the rest of his life in fear.

[Devil May Cry]

It's TERRIBLE. Horrible cambat system, horrible story, horrible dialogue system, horrible ending, horrible loading times. Horribly horrible horrible.



Les Enfant Terrible isn't related to the Nano Machines. The Nano machines inside Snakes body are the ones Naomi put in him slightly before MGS1 started.



Naomi has no control over them, anymore. She was the one who programed them before injecting them into Snake right before the custcene in MGS1. She set foxdie witha random time value to activate. It was the best punbishment she could think of, to have him live the rest of his life in fear.

I see. Wow that b**ch. I liked Mei Ling though. :up:

[XtromaniaK]

It's TERRIBLE. Horrible cambat system, horrible story, horrible dialogue system, horrible ending, horrible loading times. Horribly horrible horrible.


You'd probably prefer Killzone over it, wouldn't you? :o

[블라스]

Jade Empire is better than you = Fact.

http://fotos.trucoteca.com/wallpapers2/7069-4.jpg

http://fotos.trucoteca.com/wallpapers2/7069-1.jpg

http://blogs.elcorreodigital.com/media/JadeEmpire.jpg

[hippie_hunter]

Find this sort of speculation annoying? My advice would be to deal with it, this is nothing compared to the constant, annoying, desperate, and repetitive MGS4 on the 360 meme that has been going on for like ever since MGS4 was first shown.

The Metal Gear Solid 4 on the Xbox 360 rumors are annoying simply because they don't stop and have been proven false over and over again. Sony, Kojima Productions, and Konami have confirmed that it is a Playstation 3 exclusive yet they keep comming. Most Xbots simply want it to go multiplatform because it's one of the Playstation 3's most wanted games, not because they actually want to play it themselves. And simply most of these rumors are dicking us around instead of giving us actual speculation and facts.

The reason why this Mass Effect specualation is downright retarded is because Mass Effect is a second party title, not a third party one like Metal Gear Solid 4. Hell will freeze over before a first or second party title goes multiplatform.

So in conclusion, this is nothing at all like the Metal Gear Solid 4 rumors. Because even though it's an exclusive Metal Gear Solid 4 still has some chance of going on the Xbox 360. Mass Effect has no chance on going on the Playstation 3.

[Zenien]

I wasn't talking about the chances of each happening. MGS4 is worse because it has been going on for 2+ years. There's no where near the consistency with Mass Effect.

Yet again can we get a source on that quote where they alledgedly said they'd port it to the PS3 if there's enough interest?

[XtromaniaK]

I wasn't talking about the chances of each happening. MGS4 is worse because it has been going on for 2+ years. There's no where near the consistency with Mass Effect.

Yet again can we get a source on that quote where they alledgedly said they'd port it to the PS3 if there's enough interest?

No you can't, because it doesn't exist. :o

[Zenien]

Someone said it did, I demand they be held accountable. :dry:

[hippie_hunter]

I wasn't talking about the chances of each happening. MGS4 is worse because it has been going on for 2+ years. There's no where near the consistency with Mass Effect.

No the Mass Effect is worse because there is absolutely no chance of it happening unlike Metal Gear Solid 4 and talking about a Playstation 3 version is just downright stupid.

[Zenien]

You're free to your opinion but I'm right and you're wrong so there. :dry:

[XtromaniaK]

Actually, I agree with him. So therefore, it is 2 v. 1 and so he wins. Ah, the advantages of statistical superiority.

[Zenien]

The difference is the Mass Effect stuff can be refuted easilly, the MGS4 stuff is just 2 years of endless "It's going to 360 because I think it is!" "No it isn't because Kojima said X" "But X employee of Konami said X! It's still going to the 360 anyway because I think it is, so there!" Not to mention you can't get through a thread without the topic coming up or without jackasses making jackassery remarks. ANd half the time those people don't even really want to actually play MGS4 in the first place.

Picture that for 2 bloody years. A little easilly refuted rumor that barely pops up about Mass Effect coming to the PS3 isn't anything, toughen up old chap. :dry:

[KALEL114]

I agree with her. 2 v 2.

Ha!

[XtromaniaK]

I agree with her. 2 v 2.

Ha!

Well, my split personality disagrees with ALL of you!

2 v 2 v .5

Bwahaha. :huh:

[KALEL114]

Lol.

[hippie_hunter]

Plus I have to deal with all the MGS4 on the 360 bulls**t on GR. So I get like an extra point or something.

3 v 2 v .5

[블라스]

So MGS4 is going to the 360? Awesome!

[Avalanche]

But then they're losing Halo 3 exclusivity to the PS3, so it evens out.

[Devil May Cry]

I know about 4 or 5 dudes who would commit seppuku if that were to occur.

[KALEL114]

So MGS4 is going to the 360? Awesome!

Not confirmed. All speculation.

[hippie_hunter]

Not confirmed. All speculation.

He's joking around. That's how everyone acts in GR.

[블라스]

He's joking around.

Or is he....? :huh: :dry:


:ninja:

[블라스]

But then they're losing Halo 3 exclusivity to the PS3, so it evens out.

Hey, Halo 3 can be a Ps3 exclusive for all I care :up:

[KALEL114]

Or is he....? :huh: :dry:


:ninja:

Or was I.....?:wow:

:csad:

[블라스]

Or was I.....?:wow:

:csad:

Touche... :(

Wait :huh:

[KALEL114]

Double :huh:

[hame4479]

OPM had a preview for Bioshock in their second issue too, I'd love to get it on PS3.

The developers of Mass Effect said they'd bring that to PS3 if enough interest was raised too.

Petion time!


impossible microsoft is publishing that game.

[Superman1314]

I think there is a good possibility that Bioshock will hit the PS3 (I'm getting it for the 360 here in a couple weeks..YAY). I also read that Mass Effect was going to port over to PS3...time will tell.

I still think the days of exclusives are coming to an end.

Even Square-Enix stated that it's a dying business practice. It just makes more sense to make your games available to a broader audience.

[Superman1314]

Plus I have to deal with all the MGS4 on the 360 bulls**t on GR. So I get like an extra point or something.

3 v 2 v .5


Why are you so obsessed with the PS3 vs. X360? Does it bother you when one system or the other gets good games? Are you jelouse or something? Seriously...you really like to bash.

[Superman1314]

The difference is the Mass Effect stuff can be refuted easilly, the MGS4 stuff is just 2 years of endless "It's going to 360 because I think it is!" "No it isn't because Kojima said X" "But X employee of Konami said X! It's still going to the 360 anyway because I think it is, so there!" Not to mention you can't get through a thread without the topic coming up or without jackasses making jackassery remarks. ANd half the time those people don't even really want to actually play MGS4 in the first place.

Picture that for 2 bloody years. A little easilly refuted rumor that barely pops up about Mass Effect coming to the PS3 isn't anything, toughen up old chap. :dry:

It's times like this that I lean back, look at both my PS3 and 360, sigh and shake my head at all this silly nonsense. Games will come out for systems. It doesn't matter what system..it's a game, and it will be played. Why do you all care so much about what comes out for what?

[hippie_hunter]

Why are you so obsessed with the PS3 vs. X360? Does it bother you when one system or the other gets good games? Are you jelouse or something? Seriously...you really like to bash.

It's not about the console wars.

It's about God of War 3 going on the Xbox 360. It's about Mass Effect going on the Playstation 3. It's about people saying a Nintendo character ending up on the Playstation 3 version of Metal Gear Solid 4 just because Snake is in Super Smash Bros. Brawl.

And the comment about GR is because I'm a huge Metal Gear fan. And there is one thing almost all of us have in common: We are so freaking sick of the rumors that are not being fully confirmed or denied about a 360 verison of Metal Gear Solid 4. Most of them are ending up to be bulls**t and we feel like we, as Metal Gear fanboys, are getting dicked around. In Metal Gear Solid .org, posting a rumor about the 360 version on their forums will get you banned simply because the moderators are sick of the rumors and the flaming that's created by it. The Metal Gear regulars on the IGN Boards are sick of it too. WE JUST WANT THE RUMORS TO END!!!

[블라스]

I read HMV apologized for the "Xbox on 360" mistake.
I think Konami people contacted them and told them "Shhh! It's not the time to say it yet!" :( :confused:

[Devil May Cry]

I read HMV apologized for the "Xbox on 360" mistake.
I think Konami people contacted them and told them "Shhh! It's not the time to say it yet!" :( :confused:

Or b***h slapped them and told them to correct a few things if you're gonna lie about it.

It should have said


Number of discs: 8

not

Number of discs: 1

[블라스]

Are you one of those "fanboy" people? :(

[Devil May Cry]

Are you one of those "fanboy" people? :(

I was pretty much kidding but yeah absolutely 100%. I wish all 360 owners bodily harm and will avenge the poor sales of the ps3 by taking the first born of every family in America.

[블라스]

That's pretty goddamn mean :cmad: :down

[Devil May Cry]

I must have had a fanboy relapse when I actually preordered Halo3 or when I decided to save up for a 360 (I'm a college student. I'm poor) or when I played Gears of War that one time at gamespot and began cheesing like a little b**ch. MUST....RECONFIGURE...BODY....FANBOY..CELLS...ARE. ..MUTATING!!!!!!!

[블라스]

You pre-ordered Halo 3?
:down

[Devil May Cry]

I meant gamestop lol. Well yeah, I already bought the damn thing off Amazon. I did that for each iteration in the series. Gotta 360 in my dorm room (just not mine) so I'll play it there starting a little after September 25th (when it ships) then I'll play it on my own system when I have one.

[WhatsHisFace]

If Microsoft only owned the code there'd be nothing stopping them from simply porting the game from scratch without using the existing codebase. ;)
That's a cute idea but in the courts it would go down as plagiarism.

Now for a few "Wisdom of WHF" bits...

1. Bioshock will be ported to the PS3.

2. Jade Empire sucked, Jade Empire 2 will hopefully never be made, Dragon Age will probably just be KotOR all over again (as JE was) and Mass Effect obviously won't be on anything other than the 360 and PC.

3. MGS4 will be on the Xbox360 eventually. Definitely not day 1 but when the game goes gold, it's totally out of Kojima's hands and into the "BUSINESS" hands of Konami, who will give it to a small dev-house to port with zero assistance from Kojima Productions.

4. If "The Last Remnant" does well on the Xbox360 I promise FFXIII gets ported.

5. Superman1314 is a fanboy but doesn't have anything interesting to say.

[블라스]

You should be pre-ordering CoD4, Mass Effect and Bioshock...NOT HALO 3! :(

[블라스]

2. Jade Empire sucked, Jade Empire 2 will hopefully never be made.

:cmad: :cmad: :cmad: :cmad: :cmad: :cmad: :cmad:

[Devil May Cry]

You should be pre-ordering CoD4, Mass Effect and Bioshock...NOT HALO 3! :(

I would destroy life in order to play Mass Effect. PLEASE LET ME PLAY IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW, MICROSOFT!!!!!!!! Sadly, naw, I don't have it bought and paid for. Aint that a b***h?

[블라스]

That IS a huge b***h, actually :(

[Zenien]

That's a cute idea but in the courts it would go down as plagiarism.

A very cute and inpractical idea, but since Microsoft doesn't own the IP, would they really be able to sue for Plaguerism? Granted Bioware would pretty much be copying the code they already made except building it for the PS3 architecture. I'm still demanding we get a source on that btw.

Now for a few "Wisdom of WHF" bits...

1. Bioshock will be ported to the PS3.

2. Jade Empire sucked, Jade Empire 2 will hopefully never be made, Dragon Age will probably just be KotOR all over again (as JE was) and Mass Effect obviously won't be on anything other than the 360 and PC.

Agree, agree. No clue what Dragon Age is going to be, are they developing it simultaniously or is it in pre-production until Mass Effect is done.

3. MGS4 will be on the Xbox360 eventually. Definitely not day 1 but when the game goes gold, it's totally out of Kojima's hands and into the "BUSINESS" hands of Konami, who will give it to a small dev-house to port with zero assistance from Kojima Productions.

I'd say it stands a good chance of going multiplatform, but Kojima could always put MGO multiplatform to appease Konami corporate. Granted once you've done that the leg work for porting MGS4 would be pretty much done. Eitherway it won't be on the 360 anytime soon following the release on the PS3, if it does go. Don't forget taht Konami Corporate would be very reluctant to port the game without Kojima's approval, considering his stature within the company and how he was vice president of the company before deciding to step down to run Kojima Productions.

4. If "The Last Remnant" does well on the Xbox360 I promise FFXIII gets ported.

I don't think Sony would let that happen, period. They'd move mountains to stop that. Nomura seems more interested in keeping FF 1 platform at a time, the core series anyway, and he basically is SE these days as far as the Square side is concerned. The only way I can see them porting it is if FFXII doesn't sell well, which I can't see happening. But they're going to be pissed if it sells below 1.7 million in Japan.

[Havok83]

I really dont see a MGS4 port. Like Zen said, I wouldnt rule out MGO especailly since the 360 is more geared toward an online community

[Timstuff]

Hideo Kojima has fought tooth and nail to keep MGS4 PS3 only, and Sony has been too. It's not gonna be on Xbox 360. FFXIII won't be on 360 either since it'll take up way too much space. It'd be like porting Final Fantasy VII to N64.

[Devil May Cry]

Hideo Kojima has fought tooth and nail to keep MGS4 PS3 only, and Sony has been too. It's not gonna be on Xbox 360. FFXIII won't be on 360 either since it'll take up way too much space. It'd be like porting Final Fantasy VII to N64.

FFXIII going to the 360 is as likely as Mass Effect going to the Ps3

[Zenien]

The only way FFXIII proper would go to the 360 is if it undersold on the PS3, there could be a FFXIII spinoff that reaches the 360, but you wouldn't see FFXIII proper.

[hippie_hunter]

FFXIII going to the 360 is as likely as Mass Effect going to the Ps3

ARRRRGH!!!!

FINAL FANTASY XIII IS A THIRD PARTY TITLE. MASS EFFECT IS A SECOND PARTY TITLE. THIRD PARTIES CAN GO MULTIPLATFORM, SECOND PARTIES CAN'T GOD DAMMIT!!!! :cmad:

Christ, no wonder why I'm so freaking bitter now :cmad:

[Zenien]

You seem to be getting especially worked up over such a small annoyance. :huh: (I don't think he was saying Mass Effect would go to the PS3, just that the chances of either going is about the same, not necessarilly for the same reasons between them though).

[hippie_hunter]

That said, it's very unlikely that Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots and Final Fantasy XIII will go multiplatform.

Konami executives want it to go multiplatform, but many people ignore the fact that Kojima does hold a lot of power in Konami. Also, it will sell better than Metal Gear Solid 3 did. Better hype. Better reputation. And the majority of Playstation 3 owners will get this game so Konami really should have no fear of this game underselling (which is what Kituae said is what might cause Metal Gear Solid 4 to go multiplatform). I can't see this game selling less than 5 million.

And based on the development of the game it is optimized for Playstation 3 hardware and from what Kojima has said, the game is too big for DVD9

Also it's pretty damn obvious that Sony is paying Konami the co-marketing dollars it wants with promoting the game in E3 2006 and E3 2007 and with the presence they've had at the Metal Gear Solid 20th Anniversary party they've probably took up some of the bill to hold it. Also they're probably paying Konami for exclusitivity.

[hippie_hunter]

You seem to be getting especially worked up over such a small annoyance. :huh: (I don't think he was saying Mass Effect would go to the PS3, just that the chances of either going is about the same, not necessarilly for the same reasons between them though).

It's people constantly confusing third parties with first and second ones again and again and again that is annoying me :cmad:

[Zenien]

Oh.

Well carry on. :cmad:

[hippie_hunter]

Oh.

Well carry on. :cmad:

You're damn right I will :cmad:

[Devil May Cry]

No one is confusing s**t. Calm down. There's much more at play here than generic, party affiliations. Square ALWAYS does one SKU, one game. They make a game FOR one system then move on to the next project. Yoichi Wada said FF is a PS3 series on several occasions. The Mass Effect series could TECNHICALLY go multiplatform. They're like Factor 5. They're not owned by anyone but they make games for the systems that they like and get paid under the table to make the game as good as possible. But it's their series. To say FFXIII will go to 360 just does not seem fathomable just like Mass Effect 1 going to PS3. They are only 10% done with the ps3 version as is. Want to wait 2 more years AFTER the PS3 release for a 360 version? And for what? The PS3 will have more than enough of an install base to meet the demands of FFXIII.

Edit: Oh I forgot. FF XIII will be built on the company's proprietary White Engine, which is tooled to render animated sequences specifically using the PS3's Cell processor, right? That basically rules out the idea of a simultaneous release. If they developed for the 360, they'd need to not only use a different engine but they'd have to start after it is released for the PS3 for sure. It's not fathomable to me.

[hippie_hunter]

No one is confusing s**t. Calm down. There's much more at play here than generic, party affiliations. Square ALWAYS does one SKU, one game. They make a game FOR one system then move on to the next project. Yoichi Wada said FF is a PS3 series on several occasions. The Mass Effect series could TECNHICALLY go multiplatform. They're like Factor 5. They're not owned by anyone but they make games for the systems that they like and get paid under the table to make the game as good as possible. But it's their series. To say FFXIII will go to 360 just does not seem fathomable just like Mass Effect 1 going to PS3. They are only 10% done with the ps3 version as is. Want to wait 2 more years AFTER the PS3 release for a 360 version? And for what? The PS3 will have more than enough of an install base to meet the demands of FFXIII.

Edit: Oh I forgot. FF XIII will be built on the company's proprietary White Engine, which is tooled to render animated sequences specifically using the PS3's Cell processor, right? That basically rules out the idea of a simultaneous release. If they developed for the 360, they'd need to not only use a different engine but they'd have to start after it is released for the PS3 for sure. It's not fathomable to me.

Final Fantasy XIII has more of a chance of going multiplatform because it's a THIRD PARTY!!! Mass Effect is a SECOND PARTY!!! It's being published by Microsoft for crying out loud!!!

People need to stop comparing third party titles with first and second party titles :cmad:

[Purple Prancer]

Final Fantasy XIII has more of a chance of going multiplatform because it's a THIRD PARTY!!! Mass Effect is a SECOND PARTY!!! It's being published by Microsoft for crying out loud!!!

People need to stop comparing third party titles with first and second party titles :cmad:

Do you think maybe Mario will make a cameo in Mass Effect? Rare put Diddy Kong Racing on the DS, so maybe Nintendo can return the favor to Microsoft. :wow::wow::wow::wow::wow:

[hippie_hunter]

Do you think maybe Mario will make a cameo in Mass Effect? Rare put Diddy Kong Racing on the DS, so maybe Nintendo can return the favor to Microsoft. :wow::wow::wow::wow::wow:

:cmad::cmad:

[Timstuff]

Diddy Kong Racing was Nintendo-published, because Nintendo owns Diddy Kong.

[Devil May Cry]

Final Fantasy XIII has more of a chance of going multiplatform because it's a THIRD PARTY!!! Mass Effect is a SECOND PARTY!!! It's being published by Microsoft for crying out loud!!!

People need to stop comparing third party titles with first and second party titles :cmad:


I give up. Technically, NCSoft is third party but there is no way in hell they are developing for the 360. So, the chance of their games and Mass Effect switching platforms is the same...zilch. Hmmm I guess they should be considered first party now but no money switched hands, so it's just like a Rockstar type of thing. "I'll make game A...I promise it will be exclusive."

[Purple Prancer]

Diddy Kong Racing was Nintendo-published, because Nintendo owns Diddy Kong.
Thanks for the update. :dry:

[Devil May Cry]

LOL.


Hmmm isn't Atlus/Nippon Ichi also third party? LOL I don't see Disgaea 3 on the 360. That angered a lot of people because the graphics could be done on the Wii and the 360. But it won't happen by their admission. What I'm trying to say is there are many factors at play that can sometimes make third party developers make it so that their games don't appear on any other console, which coincides with the strategy of first and second party developers (like Bioware. Well, technically Bioware is independent. Mass Effect 1 is 2nd party but the series can go any which way in the future. It won't but it could..technically). Hmmm on second thought, I'm sure Bioware signed a deal to make all 3 for the 360. They are being paid well, so it doesn't make sense to make deals on a piecemeal basis. Whatever happened to the conversation on Bioshock? Did we all agree that it's likely to go multiplat or what?

[KALEL114]

Rumor Control: Bioshock For PS3 (Spring 2008?)


The Tengu Restaurant was the site of lively conversation tonight, and like any lively conversation, there are some bits that are worth repeating

PSU learned while talking to developers at the dinner that Bioshock, the game that won the 2007 Game Critics Award for Best Action game, will be coming to the PS3 sometime in the near future.

BioShock is a title from 2K that fuses a scary atmosphere illustrated with horrific scenes, a deep storyline with an open-ended freedom to interact with anything and anyone, and a gameplay facet which incorporates actual thinking instead of raw gun power and a Hell Mary. Originally announced for all next generation consoles, BioShock appeared to be shaping up into an amazing multiplatform adventure. Soon after on September 26th, 2006, Microsoft announced that BioShock would be “released exclusively to the X-Box 360 and PC platforms this spring” at their X06 event. Soon after, Take Two Interactive released a press statement detailing BioShock's exclusivity: “2K is excited to release BioShock exclusively on Xbox 360 and under the Games for Windows brand on the PC.”

There was positive discussion almost to the point of confirmation that this title would hit for the PlayStation 3 next spring. While there have been various sources since X06 that claimed a PS3 version was in development, it would seem not a question of whether it's true at this point, but when it will happen. Despite our confidence in the integrity of our information however, we must emphasize that this is still a rumor, and Take Two has not officially confirmed this with us yet.

http://www.n4g.com/ClickOut.aspx?ObjID=57945

[Mr. Credible]

so it's a timed exclusive?

i can live with that.

[hippy fascist]

watching ps3 fans scrambling for the crumbs from microsoft's table makes me chuckle :o

[블라스]

People should get it through their heads....this WILL end up on the Ps3.

[hippie_hunter]

watching ps3 fans scrambling for the crumbs from microsoft's table makes me chuckle :o

Wait a minute. Xbox 360 fans do the same damn thing with Metal Gear Solid 4 and Final Fantasy XIII. What's the difference?

[hippy fascist]

no ,the xbox fans want those games (mainly to **** over sony) ps3 fans on the other hand are so short of good games they wait with baited breath for a game that will be available on 360 at least 6 months before it hits the ps3. It speaks volumes about the state of the ps3's software at the moment

[WhatsHisFace]

I give up. Technically, NCSoft is third party but there is no way in hell they are developing for the 360. So, the chance of their games and Mass Effect switching platforms is the same...zilch. Hmmm I guess they should be considered first party now but no money switched hands, so it's just like a Rockstar type of thing. "I'll make game A...I promise it will be exclusive."

Believe me, money is always involved. Companies don't give away exclusives for free. GTA3 was apparently shown on Xbox before Sony purchased a long-term exclusivity deal that pushed back the Xbox version YEARS.

[Zenien]

There are plenty enough of good to great PS3 games coming out, and all the titles that were essentially defacto 360 exclusives from third parties are now starting to hit PS3 as well with the third parties catching up on the PS3. People just would like Bioshock because it's going to be a great game.

[hippie_hunter]

no ,the xbox fans want those games (mainly to **** over sony) ps3 fans on the other hand are so short of good games they wait with baited breath for a game that will be available on 360 at least 6 months before it hits the ps3. It speaks volumes about the state of the ps3's software at the moment

No offense, but that statement is rather stupid :o

Both Xbox and Playstation fans act this way. They act like it with Bioshock, Mass Effect, Metal Gear Solid 4, Final Fantasy XIII, etc.

[Mugen]

I'm an Xbox fan (current Xbox owner and future 360 owner) and I want Metal Gear and FF because they are awesome games. Who gives a damn about screwing over Sony?

[hippie_hunter]

I'm an Xbox fan (current Xbox owner and future 360 owner) and I want Metal Gear and FF because they are awesome games. Who gives a damn about screwing over Sony?

Thank you for proving my point.

[Zenien]

BioShock Trailer Premiers Sunday On Spike TV
While it seems to me there have been no end of BioShock trailers like this one or this one or this one, 2K Games has one last trailer for their spooky underwater adventure in store for us. The catch? We have to tune in to Spike TV on the night of Sunday the 12th to see it. All I can say is this had better be a damn fine piece of video game commercial film for me to want to take time out of my busy Sunday schedule of sitting around on my ass to flip the channel to Spike at 9PM Eastern to watch for 60 seconds. They'd need something like a surprise announcement from Game Head's Geoff Keighley for that to happen.

In addition, the trailer debut will close with a surprise announcement by Game Head's Geoff Keighley. You won't want to miss this!

http://kotaku.com/gaming/special-surprise-inside%21/bioshock-trailer-premiers-sunday-on-spiketv-287949.php

[KALEL114]

Alas, no PS3 anouncement. For those with a 360, the demo is up.

[Superman1314]

watching ps3 fans scrambling for the crumbs from microsoft's table makes me chuckle :o



Which is why I have both systems. I'm not a scrambeler. I'll take what I want and leave what I want.

Honestly, I think having both a PS3 and a X360 is a good combo to have.

I recomend it to anyone. Get both. Be happy.

[Electro UK]

Which is why I have both systems. I'm not a scrambeler. I'll take what I want and leave what I want.

Honestly, I think having both a PS3 and a X360 is a good combo to have.

I recomend it to anyone. Get both. Be happy.

Exunctly. I really don't understand the console wars, and how people will argue till their fingers bleed over which console is better.

End of the day, both 360 and PS3 are good systems, with the 360 being better at this point in time, and yet wars are waged over them, when at the end of the day, they're just something you can go out and buy in the shop. If your worried the PS3 might fail, its not like you live in Germany and you've just lost WW2, just go buy a 360 and be happy.

[Timstuff]

Wait a minute. Xbox 360 fans do the same damn thing with Metal Gear Solid 4 and Final Fantasy XIII. What's the difference?

I'm not even interested in Bioshock, but the PS3 version is the worst kept secret in the industry since the Xbox 360 elite. There was a full preview of the PS3 version of Bioshock in a European game magazine a few months ago, but that was before Microsoft had finalized the deal to make Bioshock time-exclusive, and so they had to print a retraction in the next issue, and now the producers have gone mum about the PS3 version all together. But recently, the producer was asked about it and said (paraphrased) "If I talk about that right now, my bosses will spank me."

I think everyone knows it's coming to PS3. Personally, I am not interested in the game anyway, but it's still an interesting story to follow none-the-less.

[Addendum]

No offense, but that statement is rather stupid :o

Both Xbox and Playstation fans act this way. They act like it with Bioshock, Mass Effect, Metal Gear Solid 4, Final Fantasy XIII, etc.

Actually from what I've seen, when a Playstation exclusive goes to the Xbox, the Playstation are like WTFARRRRGH!!:cmad: and the Xbox fans' reaction is dependent on if it's a game they like. If it's not that good, it's :dry: . If it's good then it's :woot:

Then, if an Xbox exclusive goes to the Playstation, the Playstation fans are all :wow: :woot: And the Xbox fans are :dry:

[블라스]

Excellent use of smilies there :up:
I award you 100,000 WHF points.

[hippie_hunter]

Actually from what I've seen, when a Playstation exclusive goes to the Xbox, the Playstation are like WTFARRRRGH!!:cmad: and the Xbox fans' reaction is dependent on if it's a game they like. If it's not that good, it's :dry: . If it's good then it's :woot:

Then, if an Xbox exclusive goes to the Playstation, the Playstation fans are all :wow: :woot: And the Xbox fans are :dry:

Yeah, your right on the way the fanboys act when a game loses exclusitivity.

But I'm talking about how Playstation 3 owners want games like Bioshock and Mass Effect and how Xbox 360 owners want games like Metal Gear Solid 4 and Final Fantasy XIII. Therefore, hippy fascists statement of Playstation 3 owners scrambling for the Xbox 360's crumbs is just downright stupid. Both fans act that way.

[XtromaniaK]

I'm not even interested in Bioshock, but the PS3 version is the worst kept secret in the industry since the Xbox 360 elite. There was a full preview of the PS3 version of Bioshock in a European game magazine a few months ago, but that was before Microsoft had finalized the deal to make Bioshock time-exclusive, and so they had to print a retraction in the next issue, and now the producers have gone mum about the PS3 version all together. But recently, the producer was asked about it and said (paraphrased) "If I talk about that right now, my bosses will spank me."

I think everyone knows it's coming to PS3. Personally, I am not interested in the game anyway, but it's still an interesting story to follow none-the-less.

You do realize that "preview" was in a Playstation magazine? Exactly how credible do you think that is when it was still just a rumor at that point? At this point in time, as the developers have said, all resources are focused on the Xbox 360 version and there's no PS3 version in development. And there might not be depending on if they feel it is profitable or not to release the game on the PS platform long after it has already launched on the 360 and PC.

[Timstuff]

They are contractually required to deny the PS3 version's existance. This is a tactic that MS has employed in the past with games like Splinter Cell.

[XtromaniaK]

They are contractually required to deny the PS3 version's existance. This is a tactic that MS has employed in the past with games like Splinter Cell.

How do you know? It might very well be as they say it is, which is that at this time there is no PS3 version in existence. I'll believe the words from the developer's mouth before I believe a rumor in a Playstation mag.

[Jerry!]

Exunctly. I really don't understand the console wars, and how people will argue till their fingers bleed over which console is better.

End of the day, both 360 and PS3 are good systems, with the 360 being better at this point in time, and yet wars are waged over them, when at the end of the day, they're just something you can go out and buy in the shop. If your worried the PS3 might fail, its not like you live in Germany and you've just lost WW2, just go buy a 360 and be happy.

Because not everyone can afford that. Thats the minority of people who can go out and blow over $700 on the systems alone, then you figure in the games, accessories, thats about $1000 or more. Not a lot of people are willing to or can afford to shell out that money, so they have to make a choice. And these "system wars" are people defending that choice. Its stupid to say that everyone should just go out and buy both because if everyone could, everyone probably would. But thats in a perfect world.

[Timstuff]

How do you know? It might very well be as they say it is, which is that at this time there is no PS3 version in existence. I'll believe the words from the developer's mouth before I believe a rumor in a Playstation mag.

Because the staff had openly disclosed the PS3 version's existance early on in that preview for the European PS magazine, but had to recall the information after they found out they were violating their contract with Microsoft. Basically, we know it exists because the developers said it does, before they knew they weren't allowed to talk about it.

[L.A.]

Early reviews are starting to showup and they look promsing to say the least :D. I'll try and keep this updated as they trickle in.

PC Gamer UK: 9.5 (http://s77.photobucket.com/albums/j50/chiahippo/Bio/)
OXM UK: 100 (Cover (http://img155.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=96456_cover_122_1150lo.jpg) , 1 (http://img189.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=96462_p89_122_539lo.jpg) , 2 (http://img186.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=96470_p90_122_259lo.jpg) , 3 (http://img188.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=96477_p91_122_338lo.jpg) , 4 (http://img46.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=96484_p92_122_793lo.jpg) , 5 (http://img45.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=96488_p93_122_793lo.jpg) , 6 (http://img40.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=96496_p94_122_629lo.jpg) , 7 (http://img130.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=96503_p95_122_344lo.jpg) )
Game Informer: 10 (http://gameinformer.com/Games/Review/200709/R07.0814.1203.13551.htm)
Alternative Press: 10 (http://gamers-creed.com/?p=217)
Xbox World: 9.4 (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=169286&site=xbw)
Gamers: 9.8 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=882811)
PC Zone: 96 (1 (http://xs318.xs.to/xs318/07320/bioshockpage1.jpg) , 2 (http://xs318.xs.to/xs318/07320/bioshockpage2.jpg) , 3 (http://xs318.xs.to/xs318/07320/bioshockpage3.jpg) , 4 (http://xs218.xs.to/xs218/07320/bioshockpage4.jpg) , 5 (http://xs218.xs.to/xs218/07320/bioshockpage5.jpg) , 6 (http://xs218.xs.to/xs218/07320/bioshockpage6.jpg) )
Eurogamer: 10 (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=81479&page=1)
Games Radar: 10 (http://www.gamesradar.com/us/pc/game/reviews/article.jsp?articleId=2007081595653768046&sectionId=1000&releaseId=20060426172718471012)
Game Arena: 10 (http://www.gamearena.com.au/xbox360/games/title/bioshock/reviews.php/bioshock?sssdmh=dm16.274206)
Computer & Video Games (PC Gamer US): 9.5 (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=169983)
Gamespy: 5/5 (http://xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/bioshock/813243p1.html) *new
1up: 10 (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3162017) *new
Console Gameworld: 99 (http://consoles.gwn.com/reviews/gamereview.php/id/1350/title/BioShock.html) *new
IGN: 9.7 (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/813/813214p1.html) *new
Team XBOX: 9.5 (http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1368/BioShock/p1/) *new
GamePro: 5/5 (http://www.gamepro.com/microsoft/xbox360/games/reviews/129608.shtml) *new

Rumored:
OXM: 10
Play: 10
GameSpot: 9.5
GameSpy: 10

[Electro UK]

How this game doesn't get Game of the year will be beyond me.

[Electro UK]

Early reviews are starting to showup and they look promsing to say the least :D. I'll try and keep this updated as they trickle in.

PC Gamer UK: 9.5 (http://s77.photobucket.com/albums/j50/chiahippo/Bio/)
OXM UK: 100 (Cover (http://img155.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=96456_cover_122_1150lo.jpg) , 1 (http://img189.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=96462_p89_122_539lo.jpg) , 2 (http://img186.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=96470_p90_122_259lo.jpg) , 3 (http://img188.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=96477_p91_122_338lo.jpg) , 4 (http://img46.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=96484_p92_122_793lo.jpg) , 5 (http://img45.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=96488_p93_122_793lo.jpg) , 6 (http://img40.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=96496_p94_122_629lo.jpg) , 7 (http://img130.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=96503_p95_122_344lo.jpg) )
Game Informer: 10 (http://gameinformer.com/Games/Review/200709/R07.0814.1203.13551.htm)
Alternative Press: 10 (http://gamers-creed.com/?p=217)
Xbox World: 9.4 (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=169286&site=xbw)
Gamers: 9.8 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=882811)
PC Zone: 96 (1 (http://xs318.xs.to/xs318/07320/bioshockpage1.jpg) , 2 (http://xs318.xs.to/xs318/07320/bioshockpage2.jpg) , 3 (http://xs318.xs.to/xs318/07320/bioshockpage3.jpg) , 4 (http://xs218.xs.to/xs218/07320/bioshockpage4.jpg) , 5 (http://xs218.xs.to/xs218/07320/bioshockpage5.jpg) , 6 (http://xs218.xs.to/xs218/07320/bioshockpage6.jpg) )
Eurogamer: 10 (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=81479&page=1)
Games Radar: 10 (http://www.gamesradar.com/us/pc/game/reviews/article.jsp?articleId=2007081595653768046&sectionId=1000&releaseId=20060426172718471012)
Game Arena: 10 (http://www.gamearena.com.au/xbox360/games/title/bioshock/reviews.php/bioshock?sssdmh=dm16.274206)
Computer & Video Games (PC Gamer US): 9.5 (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=169983)
Gamespy: 5/5 (http://xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/bioshock/813243p1.html) *new
1up: 10 (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3162017) *new
Console Gameworld: 99 (http://consoles.gwn.com/reviews/gamereview.php/id/1350/title/BioShock.html) *new
IGN: 9.7 (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/813/813214p1.html) *new
Team XBOX: 9.5 (http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1368/BioShock/p1/) *new
GamePro: 5/5 (http://www.gamepro.com/microsoft/xbox360/games/reviews/129608.shtml) *new

Rumored:
OXM: 10
Play: 10
GameSpot: 9.5
GameSpy: 10

That's probably the best set of reviews a games gotten since Orcarina of Time, maybe God of War.

[Jerry!]

I think the only game that has a chance, and a pretty slim chance seeing these reviews, is Mass Effect. Halo 3 will probably get great reviews, but compared to Bioshock, it won't stand a chance even if it delivers perfectly on everything it can.

[L.A.]

Damn the Big Daddy's are alot tougher to kill than I imagine!!! You need at least 5 health kits to kill one of them:o

[THE LIZARD#1]

this will probable not surprise any of you but bioshock is coming to PS3. according to users who have Bioshock on PC if you go into the codex instructions and read through the code there are notes on how they will react diffrently on the consoles both 360 and PS3 are listed. check it out on www.ps3today.com

[KALEL114]

Look what some one found In the configuration file of the PC Demo of Bioshock: there are some notes for the interested about the game engine configurations options and there's a little topic about consoles.
[Console]
;; Console (XBox360, PS3) specific settings

;; StreamingDynamicFloatingLimit:
;; If this is a positive number, then instead of using the fixed per-level
;; limits, the StreamingDynamic resource will use as much memory as is
;; available as long as the total memory allocated by the game is less than
;; the specified number. In other words, StreamingDynamic will grow and
;; shrink to fit to the available memory instead of being locked to a fixed
;; budget
StreamingDynamicFloatingLimit=500

You'll find this under Program Files/2k Game/Bioshock demo/Content/config.ini , just open the file with notepad or wordpad . Good news for ps3 fans although most already assumed the game was coming."

Please check for yourselves...

[Zenien]

It could be old code they never bothered to amend! :oldrazz:

[THE LIZARD#1]

lol thanks zenien.

[Purple Prancer]

Oh My Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwd

[Spidey17]

Uber sweetness. Now the only games I'll have to lice without will be Condemned, Fable 3, and Gears of War(as well as all the sequels). Maybe Mass Effect, but Bioware never really clicked for me.

[Timstuff]

The game runs on Unreal Engine 3, which is designed to work with PS3. Case solved.

Still, that doesn't mean it's NOT coming to PS3. Oblivion was thought to be "Only for Windows and Xbox 360," and look where that ended up. 6 months down the line I'll probably be playing Bioshock with a Sixaxis.

[Fran]

But it won't sell nearly as many copies.

[Electro UK]

Why does that matter? Its still the game game. Great games that don't see are still great games.

[Timstuff]

But it won't sell nearly as many copies.

Oh no! You've taken away my only reason for wanting to play it! :csad:

[Benstamania]

Bioshock will show up on the PS3 when MGS4 hits the 360.

Which is never.

[hippy fascist]

6 months down the line I'll probably be playing Bioshock with a Sixaxis.

wishing you were playing it on a proper controller rather than just a pale imitation :(

[BatMatt]

wishing you were playing it on a proper controller rather than just a pale imitation :(

The Sony design came first:huh:

[Electro UK]

I think he's talking about lack of rumble (even though that'll be fixed by Bioshock's arrivial), and motion sensing that's yet to be justified.

[hippy fascist]

I think he's talking about lack of rumble (even though that'll be fixed by Bioshock's arrivial), and motion sensing that's yet to be justified.

Sixaxis :rolleyes:

most people I've tlaked to just turn the function off and use it like a ps2 controller.

How much did sony spend in terms of R&D on that pathetic atempt to latch onto the wii's hype? :o

[BatMatt]

Sixaxis can be very useful when incorporated right and not just tacked on, like in Rainbow Six. Yeah it was cool to use it for the snake cam but it didn't add much to the game. Warhawk however uses the controller awesomely and really really made it a better experience.

[hippy fascist]

warhawk...

what exactly did PSM and IGN say about the gameplay in warhawk? :)

[Purple Prancer]

It controlled like a dream? :confused:





Oh wait, no :o

[Jerry!]

Oh no! You've taken away my only reason for wanting to play it! :csad:

Yeah its lame to use Bioshock as some kind of arguing point over sales or rub the "other guy's" face over which system got the game first. Its just a game that EVERYONE who likes video games at all should experience, whether that be on the PS3 or 360.

Bioshock will show up on the PS3 when MGS4 hits the 360.

Which is never.

Both of those will probably happen, with Bioshock pretty much for sure.

[Fran]

Oh no! You've taken away my only reason for wanting to play it! :csad:

Oh, was that supposed to make me feel bad/owned? Nice try.

[Fran]

warhawk...

what exactly did PSM and IGN say about the gameplay in warhawk? :)

Talk about OVERRATED.

[Jerry!]

Oh, was that supposed to make me feel bad/owned? Nice try.

I think you missed my point.


Its lame to use Bioshock as some kind of arguing point over sales or rub the "other guy's" face over which system got the game first. Its just a game that EVERYONE who likes video games at all should experience, whether that be on the PS3 or 360. For a game like this, sales don't really matter, its just a game that no one should really miss out on.

[Fran]

I wasn't trying to "rub it in his face", I was just making an observation/statement, and he catches feelings over it.

[Jerry!]

Well then it was a dumb statement. It did sound like you were trying to make some sort of debate out of it, when it shouldn't matter one way or the other what system it sells more on.

[Fran]

I have my own opinions, you have your own.

[Jerry!]

When a game as good and different and unique as Bioshock comes along, it really shouldn't matter what console it sells better on, just that everyone has a chance to experience this game. The system wars don't really matter with this game, it becomes secondary with Bioshock. That game is just that good.

[Electro UK]

warhawk...

what exactly did PSM and IGN say about the gameplay in warhawk? :)

What did IGN say about it? I thought it was Lair they were talking about.

[Electro UK]

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=130348

That pretty much confirms it.

[BatMatt]

warhawk...

what exactly did PSM and IGN say about the gameplay in warhawk? :)

don't care, I participated in the beta and loved it, the control scheme was my favorite part

[Devil May Cry]

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=130348

That pretty much confirms it.


Even gametrailers put it up as news. Hmmmm....

[Zenien]

That's about as close to a confirmation as we can get without seeing videos of them playing the game using a playstation controller. :p

There's one game right now I want on the 360 and that's Mass Effect, but unlike Bioshock the chances of that people ported are pretty much nill.

[KALEL114]

don't care, I participated in the beta and loved it, the control scheme was my favorite part
That's why I am getting it. Everyone from the beta said the same thing. I trust you guys more than a magazines review.

[BatMatt]

That's why I am getting it. Everyone from the beta said the same thing. I trust you guys more than a magazines review.

thanks :up:
dude you'll love it, as soon as you turn on the thrusters and absolutely take off you're in for a real treat. I would never fly any other way than with the sixaxis. It works for the ground vehicles as well (tanks and jeeps) but it so much more rewarding up in the air. I wasn't very good yet when the beta expired but I couldn't care less

[Devil May Cry]

OMG. WARHAWK GETS A FRICKING 4....












....out of 5!

Coded by Incognito Inc – the genius developers of the stunning God of War – Warzone is the very first PlayStation 3 game that’s based entirely online, offering eight virtual battlezones that can accommodate up to 32 players simultaneously.


The action itself should be very familiar indeed to those who’ve played any of Electronic Arts’ Battlefield series on PC or Xbox 360. Gamers login and join one of two teams – engaging in a range of military campaigns from simple deathmatches through to territory grabs and the ubiquitous capture-the-flag. From there on in, it’s a case of running about and blasting opponents, or jumping into tanks and jeeps and zooming around the landscape, or else taking to the skies in the eponymous Warhawks, where the air-to-air dogfighting is so cool it could’ve been a standalone game in its own right.


Key to this game’s enjoyment is its arcade-style approach. Extra weapons, ammo and bonus equipment take the form of large icons, making them easy to spot from afar – so no squinting into the distance for a glint of that sniper rifle you want. Warhawk is also exceptionally lenient when it comes to flying into objects at speed and falling from great heights; the emphasis here is on multiplayer combat, and the only sudden death situations you’ll come across involve being heavily outgunned by an online opponent.
It feels good, it feels right. It’s as close to a massively multiplayer virtual warzone as we’ve ever seen on console and you can’t help but be impressed by the scale of what’s going on around you. You may be engaged in an urban shootout on foot, with team members manning the anti-aircraft guns by your side, Warhawks duelling in the skies, while other comrades jump into jeeps to speed off into the distance, taking the fight to the enemy base.


In terms of audio-visuals, Warhawk is one of the better-looking PS3 offerings. The futuristic, pseudo-alien setting has allowed Incognito to create some memorable battlezones – from a blasted city in the sky to a stunning island area where the land masses tower into the heavens. Everything moves smoothly and the amount of detail – especially when viewed from on high – is incredible. Audio is excellent too, with Warhawk being the first PS3 game we’ve encountered that features full, uncompressed 7.1 surround sound (HDMI only).


Also impressive is the way that Warhawk’s arenas can be changed to accommodate the number of players in the game. Server operators can scale down the map so the action takes place in specially selected areas – great for when there’s only four to eight gamers in a current session.

It’s difficult to be at all negative about this game, because Warhawk is just so much fun and hugely playable. The only criticism that can be levelled at it is that there is absolutely no single-player option whatsoever so, obviously, leave this well alone if you have no broadband connection.
Otherwise this is highly recommended whether you go for the game with bonus extras on Blu-ray disc, or else download the cheaper version from the PlayStation Store

4 out of 5


http://uk.videogames.games.yahoo.com...wk-90921e.html

lol he forgot the name at first. Warzone?

[Electro UK]

Ugh, I crigned at the 4, until it turned out to be out of 5! Take that other magazine!

[THE LIZARD#1]

i think i might buy warhawk for 40 on the PS store rather than 60 on the retail. i didnt get to do beta. =(

[KALEL114]

i think i might buy warhawk for 40 on the PS store rather than 60 on the retail. i didnt get to do beta. =(
Thats the way I'm going as well. I need to save as much money as possible for the rest of the games coming out this year. Plus, I already have a bluetooth.

[Zenien]

Eitherway you buy it seems too expensive, which might be contributing to some reviews. I mean 59.99 for Warhawk + Headset or 39.99 for online both seem a little too much imo. 49.99/29.99 or 39.99/19.99 would be a much better price for an online only game.

[cookiva]

lol he forgot the name at first. Warzone?

Hahaha, not sure if thats good. Im really looking forward to this. My PC isnt good enough for heavy multiplayer games, so i was looking forward to the beta, and loved it.

[KALEL114]

Levine confirms no PS3 BioShock

Joystiq just got off the phone with Ken Levine, lead designer for BioShock, who says the BioShock PC issues are overblown because they're under a microscope right now due to the game's profile and he fully admits they "screwed up," patches are most definitely in the works and there is no PS3 version of BioShock in development or planned.

Levine admits there were "real screw-ups" and he "understands why people are pissed off" about the online copy protection verification for the game and it comes down to a classic victim of their own success story. They couldn't have planned the game would be such an insta-hit and they weren't prepared, so when all those people tried to verify their PC versions online during installation the server crashed. He also reiterated patches are in the works for the FOV issues and that the copy protection limit locked in for PCs will be raised. He also assured us that the servers used to authenticate the game for the PC to allow installation will be there for decades in case someone wants to install the game years from now. He says there is nothing "insidious" in their copy-protection, it's the same as any other game that uses the same protection program.

Then there is the lingering question of the rumored PS3 version of BioShock found in the PC code. Levine responds quite clearly, "I promise you, there is no secret plan about the PS3 that we're keeping from people. There's no PS3 development going on that we're hiding. There's lots of stuff that gets into game code, plans change over time and we got an exclusive deal with Microsoft ... that's not a Rosetta Stone discovery."

We'll have the full Ken Levine interview up as soon as the lovely and joyful transcription process finishes. :(

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/24/levine-confirms-no-ps3-bioshock-and-does-mea-culpa-on-pc-issues/

[BatMatt]

damn

[블라스]

Hahaha I guess I was wrong.

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/2882/owned9wz.jpg

[WhatsHisFace]

Hmmm... I was sure they were going to put Bioshock on the PS3. Maybe 2K figures it's not worth the dev cost.

[Jerry!]

Well....that came out of left field. Still I can't imagine Sony not doing something to get his game on the PS3 eventually. But if they don't, its a pretty damaging blow.

[L.A.]

Did games like SCDA, Rainbow Six Vegas, and Oblivion sell well for the PS3??? if it didnt that could be the reason why 2k not porting Bioshock.

[BatMatt]

I believe Rainbow Six Vegas did sell well, it's been in the top software charts for PS3 since it's release, I think

[Phaser]

I believe Rainbow Six Vegas did sell well, it's been in the top software charts for PS3 since it's release, I think

Yeah, that tends to happen when there aren't a good deal of great games to begin with. To it's credit though, Rainbow Six Vegas did exceptionally well on the 360 in spite of Gears of War hogging all the spotlight last holiday season.

[cookiva]

Well, its because its a better game

[GFreeman]

I still think Bioshock will end up on the PS3. It might be next year/two years from now, but I'm sure it'll happen.

[Jerry!]

Yeah me too. I can't possibly see Sony just shrugging this off and letting it go. They are fools if they do.

[Phaser]

Levine confirms no PS3 BioShock

Joystiq just got off the phone with Ken Levine, lead designer for BioShock, who says the BioShock PC issues are overblown because they're under a microscope right now due to the game's profile and he fully admits they "screwed up," patches are most definitely in the works and there is no PS3 version of BioShock in development or planned.

Levine admits there were "real screw-ups" and he "understands why people are pissed off" about the online copy protection verification for the game and it comes down to a classic victim of their own success story. They couldn't have planned the game would be such an insta-hit and they weren't prepared, so when all those people tried to verify their PC versions online during installation the server crashed. He also reiterated patches are in the works for the FOV issues and that the copy protection limit locked in for PCs will be raised. He also assured us that the servers used to authenticate the game for the PC to allow installation will be there for decades in case someone wants to install the game years from now. He says there is nothing "insidious" in their copy-protection, it's the same as any other game that uses the same protection program.

Then there is the lingering question of the rumored PS3 version of BioShock found in the PC code. Levine responds quite clearly, "I promise you, there is no secret plan about the PS3 that we're keeping from people. There's no PS3 development going on that we're hiding. There's lots of stuff that gets into game code, plans change over time and we got an exclusive deal with Microsoft ... that's not a Rosetta Stone discovery."

We'll have the full Ken Levine interview up as soon as the lovely and joyful transcription process finishes. :(

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/24/levine-confirms-no-ps3-bioshock-and-does-mea-culpa-on-pc-issues/

That's what I thought when I saw that line of code from the PC demo. It could very well had been from before MS offered them the exclusivity deal when the PS3 version was actually in development and they didn't bother to change it later on. But then again, better to be objective and open to the possibility than show the pigheadedness of the Sony crowd betting their life on MGS4 not going to the 360, despite the fact that publisher comments and the burden of circumstances pointing that it could very well end up being a multiplatform title (and really, after DMC4 and VF5, you think they'd have learned something by now). I mean, why be so stubborn and risk yourself to complete embarrassment and ridicule later on? That's just juvenile.

[XtromaniaK]

Levine confirms no PS3 BioShock

Joystiq just got off the phone with Ken Levine, lead designer for BioShock, who says the BioShock PC issues are overblown because they're under a microscope right now due to the game's profile and he fully admits they "screwed up," patches are most definitely in the works and there is no PS3 version of BioShock in development or planned.

Levine admits there were "real screw-ups" and he "understands why people are pissed off" about the online copy protection verification for the game and it comes down to a classic victim of their own success story. They couldn't have planned the game would be such an insta-hit and they weren't prepared, so when all those people tried to verify their PC versions online during installation the server crashed. He also reiterated patches are in the works for the FOV issues and that the copy protection limit locked in for PCs will be raised. He also assured us that the servers used to authenticate the game for the PC to allow installation will be there for decades in case someone wants to install the game years from now. He says there is nothing "insidious" in their copy-protection, it's the same as any other game that uses the same protection program.

Then there is the lingering question of the rumored PS3 version of BioShock found in the PC code. Levine responds quite clearly, "I promise you, there is no secret plan about the PS3 that we're keeping from people. There's no PS3 development going on that we're hiding. There's lots of stuff that gets into game code, plans change over time and we got an exclusive deal with Microsoft ... that's not a Rosetta Stone discovery."

We'll have the full Ken Levine interview up as soon as the lovely and joyful transcription process finishes. :(

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/24/levine-confirms-no-ps3-bioshock-and-does-mea-culpa-on-pc-issues/

I lol'd.

Seems I was right. :o :whatever:

[Jerry!]

Sony can't possibly be that dumb to let this game go. I'm sure they will do something.

[GFreeman]

Doesn't sound like there's anything they can do.

[WhatsHisFace]

Sony can't possibly be that dumb to let this game go. I'm sure they will do something.
Kind of hard to violate a contract when you're not even a party involved in the contract.

Still, I bet Sony will combat this exclusive by getting "Running With Scissors" to develop a "Bioshock clone" for the PS3.

[Zenien]

"This month, an old rumor resurfaces in a new form, as BioShock is apparently back on for PlayStation 3. Previously, it'd been speculated that Microsoft tied up 2K Games' aquatic adventure as an exclusive, but there's a change in the tide, as the world rapture may be Cell-enabled in 2008, after all."

- Latest EGM Rumors section - Quarterman

[GFreeman]

Have you played it yet?

[WhatsHisFace]

Even after all this time the PS3 is hurting for good games.

[Zenien]

PS3 isn't hurting for good games. :huh:

No not yet, I was going to play it when I borrowed the 360, but I'd rather save the experience for when I could experience it at my own pace.

[블라스]

I have this game and haven't played it :(

Oh, this is going to happen btw.

[sandwraith]

Gamera has spoken. Close thread.

[Fenrir]

Gamera has also spoken on numerous occasions that MGS4 is coming to the 360. Move the MGS4 thread to Misc. Games forum. :up:

[Electro UK]

Even after all this time the PS3 is hurting for good games.

LOL, okay WHF. I've actually had to hold back on buying games recently to hold out for some upcoming ones so...

[Fenrir]

LOL, okay WHF. I've actually had to hold back on buying games recently to hold out for some upcoming ones so...

That's because you buy crappy games. :o :oldrazz:

[Havok83]

I have this game and haven't played it :(

Oh, this is going to happen btw.
I have it to and only played like the first 2 levels and havent gone back to it. Maybe when I have time someday which isnt going to be anytime soon

[Spidey17]

That's because you buy crappy games. :o :oldrazz:

Do you ever get tired of just spamming and not actually contributing to the Sony threads? The only time you've made a post this month that wasn't worthless was in the Uncharted forum, where you asked about whether or not there was a collectors version? Am I incorrect in assuming you sold you PS3 cuz of the lack of games months ago?

[Fenrir]

Do you ever get tired of just spamming and not actually contributing to the Sony threads? The only time you've made a post this month that wasn't worthless was in the Uncharted forum, where you asked about whether or not there was a collectors version? Am I incorrect in assuming you sold you PS3 cuz of the lack of games months ago?

I did. But my roommate bought a new one a month ago. Besides, I'm just playing around with Electro and he knows it. Why is that bothering you so much?

Oh and I spam EVERYWHERE. Not just the Sony forum. :o

[XtromaniaK]

Do you ever get tired of just spamming and not actually contributing to the Sony threads? The only time you've made a post this month that wasn't worthless was in the Uncharted forum, where you asked about whether or not there was a collectors version? Am I incorrect in assuming you sold you PS3 cuz of the lack of games months ago?

You need to pull your g-string out of your crack, my good sir. It seems to be stuck up your ass and impeding upon your ability to take things lightly.

[Electro UK]

That's because you buy crappy games. :o :oldrazz:

Oh you did NOT just call CoD4 crap. :cmad:

[Purple Prancer]

Do you ever get tired of just spamming and not actually contributing to the Sony threads? The only time you've made a post this month that wasn't worthless was in the Uncharted forum, where you asked about whether or not there was a collectors version? Am I incorrect in assuming you sold you PS3 cuz of the lack of games months ago?
Do you ever get tired of being a whiny *****? :huh:

[Fenrir]

Oh you did NOT just call CoD4 crap. :cmad:

Pfft. So you got lucky once or twice. Bite me. :o

[Electro UK]

Pfft. So you got lucky once or twice. Bite me. :o

Consider you bitten.

[Spidey17]

Do you ever get tired of being a whiny *****? :huh:

I get tired of you two acting like you're joined at the hip.

[The Guardian]

BWAHAHAHAHAHA, YOU KIDS CRACK ME UP, I NEED A BEER, WHERE'S MY STASH???:oldrazz::D

[Purple Prancer]

I get tired of you two acting like you're joined at the hip.

Really? From that? Maybe you should exercise more :up:

[Spidey17]

And I'm assuming you're in peak physical condition, since you're telling people they need to go work out?:huh:

[Purple Prancer]

:heart::heart::heart: Just for you ;) :heart: :heart: :heart:

[Spidey17]

Awww... I'm touched.:woot:

[Fran]

2K Mod: There will be no Bioshock for PS3. (http://www.n4g.com/News-82921.aspx)

Responding to the new round of rumors last week that BioShock is coming to PS3 in 2008, a 2K Games forum moderator has this to say:
There will be no PS3 version of BioShock.

It has been explained time, and time again.
Updates:
Note: 2K forum moderators work for 2K Games.

[Timstuff]

Oh no, a forum mod is denying the existance of a game that they are probably contractually obligated not to reveal the existance of. :o

M$ really needs Bioshock to help pad up their holiday release lineup, so I doubt they'd be exactly thrilled if 2K went out and told people "Save your money, it's coming to PS3 next year." That's why they almost definitely would have written something about it into the paperwork.

In all likeliness, the forum mod knows nothing more than what his bosses tell him, and for security reasons, he's probably been told the PS3 version of Bioshock doesn't exist.

[WhatsHisFace]

Forum mods actually know a bit more than you'd think.

[GFreeman]

"Note: 2K forum moderators work for 2K Games."

It's not like some dude that spends way too much time on the forums said it. It's 2K games saying it.

[Fran]

Oh no, a forum mod is denying the existance of a game that they are probably contractually obligated not to reveal the existance of. :o

M$ really needs Bioshock to help pad up their holiday release lineup, so I doubt they'd be exactly thrilled if 2K went out and told people "Save your money, it's coming to PS3 next year." That's why they almost definitely would have written something about it into the paperwork.

In all likeliness, the forum mod knows nothing more than what his bosses tell him, and for security reasons, he's probably been told the PS3 version of Bioshock doesn't exist.

You made yourself sound really dumb there. 2K mods know more than you think, they don't just run the forums. :whatever:

Bioshock is just a piece of the padding. Guitar Hero 3, Rock Band, Mass Effect, Scene It? (I know, not that big, but it's good for families), Call of Duty 4.

[Timstuff]

Guitar Hero 3 and Rock Band are handily on PS3 as well. Scene it is not gonna move hardware. Bioshock is an important part of MS's exclusive '07 lineup, so don't downplay it. I thought Microsoft apologists were always saying it's a great game?

And if the mod knows something, then he obviously knows the ramifications he'd face for saying anything other than "to play Bioshock, you'll need an Xbox 360 or a PC with a Microsoft Windows(TM) operating system." Remember the mods who used to try to shut people up about the 360 version of Assassin's Creed a few years back?

[GFreeman]

Microsoft isn't the one with apologists - that requires things like widespread persecution, like say the kind that would emerge from a really high price, or a slew of uninspired software.

I just think it's funny that when a 2K employee says something about the exclusivity of their game, it comes under fire and Microsoft "paid them for it" or some such other nonsense. But if an employee of a company making a ps3 exclusive, like say MGS4 for instance, says the same things, it's gospel.

[Zenien]

You made yourself sound really dumb there. 2K mods know more than you think, they don't just run the forums. :whatever:

Bioshock is just a piece of the padding. Guitar Hero 3, Rock Band, Mass Effect, Scene It? (I know, not that big, but it's good for families), Call of Duty 4.

Scene it is just a clone of the PS2 title Buzz! that has been out, and much more popular, in Europe, for some time now. :o

[GFreeman]

I don't know why anyone here is talking about Scene It :csad:

[Timstuff]

Seriously, how is the Xbox version somehow supposed to be any better than the board game? It's the same friggin' thing but with different equipment. :o

[Fran]

I know, weak, but they are pushing it.

And GFreeman - AMEN. You nailed it (the post about MGS4)

[hippy fascist]

Oh no, a forum mod is denying the existance of a game that they are probably contractually obligated not to reveal the existance of. :o

M$ really needs Bioshock to help pad up their holiday release lineup, so I doubt they'd be exactly thrilled if 2K went out and told people "Save your money, it's coming to PS3 next year." That's why they almost definitely would have written something about it into the paperwork.

In all likeliness, the forum mod knows nothing more than what his bosses tell him, and for security reasons, he's probably been told the PS3 version of Bioshock doesn't exist.

Wait a second...microsoft needs a game to pad their holiday lineup?

Where exactly is the slew of awesome games for the ps3 that this comment would suggest are coming? :huh:

Oh that's right, they all got pushed back to quarter 2 2008 :rolleyes:

[cookiva]

And if the mod knows something, then he obviously knows the ramifications he'd face for saying anything other than "to play Bioshock, you'll need an Xbox 360 or a PC with a Microsoft Windows(TM) operating system." Remember the mods who used to try to shut people up about the 360 version of Assassin's Creed a few years back?

That was before we found out that MS would be willing to pay $50million for a little DLC for GTA4

[WhatsHisFace]

Seriously, how is the Xbox version somehow supposed to be any better than the board game? It's the same friggin' thing but with different equipment. :o

And Uno on XBLA broke a million sold.

[Fenrir]

Wait a second...microsoft needs a game to pad their holiday lineup?

Where exactly is the slew of awesome games for the ps3 that this comment would suggest are coming? :huh:

Oh that's right, they all got pushed back to quarter 2 2008 :rolleyes:

Microsoft has a sh**ty exclusive holiday lineup with "mediocre" games like Bioshock, Halo 3 and Mass Effect, two of which have already bombed and the third one looks to do the same.

PS3? Uncharted man! Uncharted!!

:dry:

[DorkyFresh]

more rumors...

http://talkplaystation.com/bioshock-will-most-likely-come-to-ps3/