Justice League New Frontier

[Artistsean]

Well here is the spoiler then:

Wonder Woman's island home is attacked by the monsters, I think, and she comes to warn Superman.
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/cooke20nf205202620500.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/cooke20nf205203720350.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/cooke20nf205203820600.jpg
But don't worry, she is OK at the end.

But I don't know how the movie is going to handle it, they may change some things.

If this is too much of a spoiler I'll take it down if asked to.


Also check out these comic pics that were shown in the trailer.
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/cooke20nf206205920600.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/cooke20nf205206220500.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/normal_Kal_and_J_onn_-_Darwyn_Cooke.jpg

[batboy99]

No man you don't understand crap! I said you can put more details ( like the background and keep the same drawing for the character it doesn't mean that it's Japanese. Those pictures were just examples! Everybody can add details. It doesn't hurt! And I have never seen a single episode of dragon ball!!!
im sorry, but i think its you who doesnt get it. they are trying to adapt this comic as much as possible trying to make it a 100% adaptation, why in the hell would they add more details if the comic doesnt have it and its not what they want?

[Ares23]

Thank u a lot Artistsean YOURE MY HERO!!! AND WOW WHAT A SPOILER!!!
THANKKS :D

[Artistsean]

No problem.
Any excuse to post more art from Darwyn Cooke.

[vibeke_T]

cool

[Ghostrider87]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnkKnvomyjU
JL NF trailer

The voice is just excellent. Sweet to see Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) showing off his power ring.

[Superman-Prime]

This is even more exciting to watch this movie soon. Remember... FEBRUARY 26th!

Can't wait to own it and watch it.

[phoenixflight]

The Cover Art...

1-Disc
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/9179/jlfdvdfw1.jpg


2-Disc
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7017/jlfdvd2dw0.jpg
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[DeathRaven]

This looks awesome, I cant wait for this to come out!

[The Man of Steel]

that look's awesome :up: :super: :batty: :ww: :gl:

[Ghostrider87]

The Cover Art...

1-Disc
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/9179/jlfdvdfw1.jpg


2-Disc
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7017/jlfdvd2dw0.jpg
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I am going to go with the first one.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnkKnvomyjU
JL NF trailer

The voice is just excellent. Sweet to see Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) showing off his power ring.

That looked pretty awsome:grin:Cant wait to see it.

[The Rocketeer]

kinda looks like the old max fleicsher superman cartoon, pretty coolis plastic man gonna be in it?

[Ghostrider87]

kinda looks like the old max fleicsher superman cartoon, pretty coolis plastic man gonna be in it?

You mean the ones that were about 7 minutes long?

[The Rocketeer]

You mean the ones that were about 7 minutes long?
the really old ones from the forties or fifties . not the hanna barbara cartoons. was plastic man in the graphic novel

[Ghostrider87]

the really old ones from the forties or fifties . not the hanna barbara cartoons. was plastic man in the graphic novel

Are you talking about these 1940 Superman cartoons?

Here is a picture of him from it

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Fleishersuperman.jpg

[Superman-Prime]

I'm going to get the SPECIAL EDITION, the standard DVD one.

[Sawyer]

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/cooke20nf206205920600.jpg

Is that Two-Face in the bottom panel? If so, the wrong side of his face is scarred.... I feel like such a geek. :(

[The Rocketeer]

Is that Two-Face in the bottom panel? If so, the wrong side of his face is scarred.... I feel like such a geek. :(
yep thats him. its ok to be a geek lol i am. who's the guy in the middle who loooks like the grinch?

[YoungE808]

The Grinch...

But Seriously it's probably Grodd

[Kurosawa]

Good god, it looks incredible.

[Mister J]

That trailer was gorgeous. I'm really looking forward to this. Hope the release doesn't get pushed back again.

[DeathRaven]

Is that Two-Face in the bottom panel? If so, the wrong side of his face is scarred.... I feel like such a geek. :(

lol I didnt notice that until you pointed it out.

[Sawyer]

The Cover Art...

1-Disc
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/9179/jlfdvdfw1.jpg


2-Disc
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7017/jlfdvd2dw0.jpg
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Totally buying that 2-Disc.

[odiin]

New Frontier on Myspace http://www.myspace.com/jlnewfrontier

If you'll notice they have the voice cast up, including some we didn't know until now like... Alan Ritchson as Aquaman. Yes, they actually got the guy who plays the live action Aquaman for this movie. Honestly, he's not great on Smallville, but nonetheless it's a very interesting concept to do something like that.

[Nightwing]

I'm really looking forward to this...The trailer was fantastic, and everything is looking great so far.

[Dr. Fate]

New Frontier on Myspace http://www.myspace.com/jlnewfrontier

If you'll notice they have the voice cast up, including some we didn't know until now like... Alan Ritchson as Aquaman. Yes, they actually got the guy who plays the live action Aquaman for this movie. Honestly, he's not great on Smallville, but nonetheless it's a very interesting concept to do something like that.
I heard rumors that Ritchson would voice Aquaman, but didn't take them seriously. I can work with it though.

[CLARKY]

It's good for me. :up:

[Hush]

The film is getting closer and closer! Its going to be amazing! Anyone as excited as me!

[Artistsean]

I am trying not to think about it or hype myself up too much, that way I might not be expecting more than the film is going to be.

[Dark_Lord]

Here's a review (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35283) posted at aintitcool.com

[Max Doobermin]

I just watched it. I never read the book, but I thought the movie was pretty badass. Definitely worth checking out. A little spoiler here Batman goes through two looks in the movie, because he scares a little kid, which makes him take on a sidekick and change his look a little. But his first look is the old school Kane version, and he looks badass.
I didn't want to reveal any of the plot for those who don't know it, I just wanted to say that little bit. But if anyone has questions about the plot, I'll be happy to address them.

It's definitely a cool flick. :up: :up:

[protocida]

Can you resume the movie events? Here where i live, this DVD will only show up in March.

[Orin]

I just can't wait to see this movie, especially since the Justice League Live Action flick is most unlikely to happen. I always loved the DCAU and, unlike most people, thought that Superman: Doomsday was not only absolutely great but also exactly what i was hoping for when i watched that disappointing Superman Returns Movie. So i'm pretty confident that New Frontier will be up to my expectations, too...

[Orb]

The entrie movie is leaked online in GREAT quality!

[protocida]

Whre can i see it?

[Action Jackson]

My friend posted the link to it here:

http://www.riderpower.net/showthread.php?p=30399#post30399

It was a great movie, awesome ending.

[protocida]

Can you resume It, PLEASE?

[protocida]

Oh, No need for that!

[Binker]

Why do this? Don't watch it online, watch it when it comes out. By watching it online, or dl-ing it online , before it comes out, you ruin and hurt WB and us for future releases.

Please, just wait. Please don't see/dl it online.

[protocida]

Where i live, this DVD may never show up.

[Orin]

Same thing where i live ... but that dosn't mean it's impossible to get the DVD! :cwink:

[echostation]

it's a pretty good film but I can't say I highly recommend it cuz yet again, they make Superman categorically worthless and useless...

Why is it that in every god damn thing the animation department of WB is involved with ie people like Bruce Timm and stuff, do they have to make Superman a complete and total waste, it's starting to get pretty bloody ridiculous.

Green Lantern fans are gonna love this, Superman fans won't... he's good earlier on but categorically useless later on the film and yet again, they make him look pathetic in terms of Combat and action.

Yes, have Superman stand in front of everything that looks potentially dangerous and take a major hit... WHY WHY WHY?? They did this all the damn time in Justice League, and they did this all the damn time in the Superman TAS

LET SUPERMAN KICK SOME ASS FOR A CHANGE!! I'm sick and tired of him being pussified to no end. They let him kick ass for what, less than a minute in the last episode of JLU (and even that was inconsistent given that Darkseid could generally beat him...)... they hardly had him doing anything in terms of action later on. was downright pathetic.

I give the movie a 7/10 for that... the rest of it was good but they really ****ed up on his character yet again, at least for me, i know most will completely disagree but that's just how i reacted when i saw it... it was like Great here goes again.

[odiin]

Err duh. Green Lantern (along with The Martian Manhunter)was the star of this film, not Superman. We've known about that for a long time. Superman has had his own movie serials, 5 feature length movies, 4 separate live-action television shows, two solo animated shows, and and a great deal more where he was a starring character. Why not let Hal shine for once? The coolest thing about this film was the choice to let some of the character who usually stay in the background shine here, and have Batman, Wonder Woman, and Superman play second fiddle for once. I don't understand how anyone could have missed that.

Anyway, the film was awesome. Without saying too much, it was a lot different than the other films Timm and Co. have done in that is just felt HUGE, it sort of felt more like a big hollywood movie than other things they have done. It's filled to the brim with non-stop action, it's like they knew they had to shove this story into a 70 minute time frame and they did an excellent job, but the only real downside is, as a result, they had to move so fast they didn't really have time to stop and focus too much on the individual characters and their stories. They do a good job with the overall story, but in any movie, along with the general plot, each character is going to have their own story to tell, and that's the only thing that might be a disappointment, but at the same time, it's still okay, because this is a JUSTICE LEAGUE story, in my mind at least, it SHOULD focus more on the action and adventure aspects of the story, or the dynamics within the team, unlike a solo film where they would step back somewhat and and focus more on the characters. It's the same thing they did in the DCAU: Batman TAS focused more on character, while JLU focused more on action.

Anyway, one thing that really surprised me was Aquaman's voice. Alan Ritchson was pretty mediocre on Smallville, but his voice for Aquaman here, brief though it may be, was excellent, pretty much perfect. Talk about characters who never get a chance to shine... I'm hoping we'll end up with an Aquaman DTV soon.

[protocida]

I Only tot think where a little bit rushed. It could be mora BAM, you know?

And They could stick with Batman's first design. Better then the second one. I Also liked the ''Renegade Amazon''. It was cool.

[Binker]

....please tell me you guys are going to get the DVD when it comes out.

[protocida]

Well... I Alredy watched the movie...














Just Kidding, man. If i find, i'll buy. Good superhero movies are never too much.

[Memphis Slim]

Err duh. Green Lantern (along with The Martian Manhunter)was the star of this film, not Superman. We've known about that for a long time. Superman has had his own movie serials, 5 feature length movies, 4 separate live-action television shows, two solo animated shows, and and a great deal more where he was a starring character. Why not let Hal shine for once? The coolest thing about this film was the choice to let some of the character who usually stay in the background shine here, and have Batman, Wonder Woman, and Superman play second fiddle for once. I don't understand how anyone could have missed that.

Anyway, the film was awesome. Without saying too much, it was a lot different than the other films Timm and Co. have done in that is just felt HUGE, it sort of felt more like a big hollywood movie than other things they have done. It's filled to the brim with non-stop action, it's like they knew they had to shove this story into a 70 minute time frame and they did an excellent job, but the only real downside is, as a result, they had to move so fast they didn't really have time to stop and focus too much on the individual characters and their stories. They do a good job with the overall story, but in any movie, along with the general plot, each character is going to have their own story to tell, and that's the only thing that might be a disappointment, but at the same time, it's still okay, because this is a JUSTICE LEAGUE story, in my mind at least, it SHOULD focus more on the action and adventure aspects of the story, or the dynamics within the team, unlike a solo film where they would step back somewhat and and focus more on the characters. It's the same thing they did in the DCAU: Batman TAS focused more on character, while JLU focused more on action.

Anyway, one thing that really surprised me was Aquaman's voice. Alan Ritchson was pretty mediocre on Smallville, but his voice for Aquaman here, brief though it may be, was excellent, pretty much perfect. Talk about characters who never get a chance to shine... I'm hoping we'll end up with an Aquaman DTV soon.



I guess the point is that why make Superman "suck" just to make Hal "shine"?? Why can't both shine??

So this DVD is out now??

[protocida]

Err...

The EXACT same thing happens with Superman in the comic book. And i was sad they cut Superman/Wonder-Woman kiss.

[CrimsonMist]

Just finished watching it. I loved it, but it felt really abbreviated. If they gave it another 20 minutes it would have been fine. Because of that though, they made some changes. Some i felt weren't necessary as i felt they took away some of the humor(the whole thing with Adam Strange and Ray Palmer from the book for example), and some took away the drama and emotion. Thought the end was a little anti-climatic, but enjoyed it nonetheless.

But regardless, i loved it. They actually gave Batman more to do than in the book too, so that was cool. Oh and to Memphis Slim, i'm not sure if you read the book or not, but Superman doesn't do a whole lot in there either. Everything you saw in the movie was, with the exception of one bit, in the book. As Odiin said, the main focus of this book and movie was on The Flash and Green Lantern. And the movie pretty much nailed it.

Definitely buying the two-disc DVD.

[odiin]

I guess the point is that why make Superman "suck" just to make Hal "shine"?? Why can't both shine??

So this DVD is out now??

He doesn't suck though. Superman is awesome in this, he's just not in it very much, because he's not one of the main characters.

[odiin]

And They could stick with Batman's first design. Better then the second one. I Also liked the ''Renegade Amazon''. It was cool.

The first design was Batman's design in the 40s, the second was his in the 60s. This movie took place in the 50s and was meant to link the golden age to the silver age. Of course the first design was better, but the second is what he actually looked like in the 60s, so it was clever of them to come up with an in-universe reason for the real world change.

[Hush]

it's a pretty good film but I can't say I highly recommend it cuz yet again, they make Superman categorically worthless and useless...

Why is it that in every god damn thing the animation department of WB is involved with ie people like Bruce Timm and stuff, do they have to make Superman a complete and total waste, it's starting to get pretty bloody ridiculous.

Green Lantern fans are gonna love this, Superman fans won't... he's good earlier on but categorically useless later on the film and yet again, they make him look pathetic in terms of Combat and action.

Yes, have Superman stand in front of everything that looks potentially dangerous and take a major hit... WHY WHY WHY?? They did this all the damn time in Justice League, and they did this all the damn time in the Superman TAS

LET SUPERMAN KICK SOME ASS FOR A CHANGE!! I'm sick and tired of him being pussified to no end. They let him kick ass for what, less than a minute in the last episode of JLU (and even that was inconsistent given that Darkseid could generally beat him...)... they hardly had him doing anything in terms of action later on. was downright pathetic.

I give the movie a 7/10 for that... the rest of it was good but they really ****ed up on his character yet again, at least for me, i know most will completely disagree but that's just how i reacted when i saw it... it was like Great here goes again.



Have you even read the comic? I mean Superman is in the book for like barely 1/2 of a 4th of the book. I hate Hal ALOT but this is a great story about him and J'onn not Superman in ANYWAY what so ever.

[echostation]

No I haven't read the book as there are absolutely no comic book stores nearby where I live. I was interested in reading it but where I am it's pretty much good luck when it comes to receiving deliveries for packages and I don't want to download it either as I hate reading on the computer. The next time I'm in the US or Canada I'll try to pick up a copy.

I didn't realize that Superman barely had a role in this like in the comics, it still is poor that that they have to make him suck to make others shine. Granted the whole climax and end with how Hal kicks ass alongside the Flash and Manhunter were great, but I just get annoyed when I see yet again Superman being laid to complete and total pussified waste like in almost every single thing he's been in (even Superman Returns where he catches Lex's boot... yaaayyyy...) and I still hated that about the film in this regard

my rating still stands...

[Hush]

No I haven't read the book as there are absolutely no comic book stores nearby where I live. I was interested in reading it but where I am it's pretty much good luck when it comes to receiving deliveries for packages and I don't want to download it either as I hate reading on the computer. The next time I'm in the US or Canada I'll try to pick up a copy.

I didn't realize that Superman barely had a role in this like in the comics, it still is poor that that they have to make him suck to make others shine. Granted the whole climax and end with how Hal kicks ass alongside the Flash and Manhunter were great, but I just get annoyed when I see yet again Superman being laid to complete and total pussified waste like in almost every single thing he's been in (even Superman Returns where he catches Lex's boot... yaaayyyy...) and I still hated that about the film in this regard

my rating still stands...


Oh Ok, well thats fine i undertsnad where you are comming from i mean Superman does have what some call a "Glass jaw" when it comes to animation history and the character. I do wonder though have you seen the JLU episode "The Clash"? Or possibly the series finale of JLU where he fights Darkseid? Both of those are pirme examples of superman being up to form and even though Supes dies in it Superman Doomsday is prolly some of the best fighting i have ever seen in animation and on my TV. I would also Recommend the entire JL story arc with the Justice Lords and The Doomsday Sanction for just pure greatness.

[Artistsean]

In the JLA cartoon but Timm they said they wanted to show that the threat was huge, how do they do that? So they thought if they had Superman get shot down in the beginning of the fight it would show the threat was major.
But they didn't realize that it was becoming a joke and making Superman seem weak.

I think if they hadn't done that Superman getting hurt in New Frontier would have gone un noticed. Also it didn't bother me. But I did think that since it was an alternate reality that maybe they had Superman die.

[Artistsean]

Also, when does this DVD come out?

[Binker]

It won't be out til 2-26-08. Please wait, and don't dl it

[Artistsean]

I never down load anything, probably because I don't know how.

Plus I want to support the hard working animators and everyone else who worked on it, and to support traditional animation as a whole.

I'm just glad I didn't miss it, I thought it had already been released.

[allfilms]

wow as i huge fan of the book i was very happy with this film. they stayed pretty true to the source material and didnt mess up the main plot too much. there are a few things missing which makes the story seemed rushed because obviously the reason they cut so much out was to make the movie shorter. but all in all the movie works without the other (i dont want to spoil) stuff missing but whatever. i loved it was amazing and very memorable...8.8/10

[echostation]

Hey Hush, thanks for those recommendations of those JLU episodes... I'll be sure to check them out

That said: The animation on this is some of the best I've seen coming from WB... the drawing of the 50s style clothes and voice over tracks from politicians was a fantastic add and I think the opening titles music is some of the best stuff I've heard... it really adds that threatening mystical superhero 50s xenophobic type of vibe to everything.

[patrickbateman]

http://www.warnervideo.com/jlnewfrontier/

loving the background score

[Binker]

I would also Recommend the entire JL story arc with the Justice Lords and The Doomsday Sanction for just pure greatness.

AKA "The Cadmus Arc" or "The Cadmus Saga". STAS "Legacy" and JL "A Better World" serve as prequels toward the Cadmus storyline.

I never down load anything, probably because I don't know how.

Plus I want to support the hard working animators and everyone else who worked on it, and to support traditional animation as a whole.

That's nice of you. Yeah, but also I feel that if people dl, and in turn not get the DVD, it hurts the sales. And if it hurts the sales, then we won't get more DVDs. You also have to include the fact that if you dl it, WB will track your IP address and they will sue you. Money up to $320,000. People may not buy that warning, but they'd be surprise how wrong they are.

Hey Hush, thanks for those recommendations of those JLU episodes... I'll be sure to check them out

That said: The animation on this is some of the best I've seen coming from WB... the drawing of the 50s style clothes and voice over tracks from politicians was a fantastic add and I think the opening titles music is some of the best stuff I've heard... it really adds that threatening mystical superhero 50s xenophobic type of vibe to everything.

So does that mean you've changed your rating, or is that still the same?

loving the background score

Actually it's just like the Superman: Doomsday website; the music there isn't in the film itself. It's happened before, and I wouldn't doubt they'd do it again.

[echostation]

naa my rating still stands cuz I find that to be weak writing regardless... actually i'll give it a 7.5/10... :)

[Hush]

In the JLA cartoon but Timm they said they wanted to show that the threat was huge, how do they do that? So they thought if they had Superman get shot down in the beginning of the fight it would show the threat was major.
But they didn't realize that it was becoming a joke and making Superman seem weak.

I think if they hadn't done that Superman getting hurt in New Frontier would have gone un noticed. Also it didn't bother me. But I did think that since it was an alternate reality that maybe they had Superman die.

Thing is though Superman got shot down cause that happens in the book. I men its kinda a sign that "Wow even superman can't stop this thing how can any of us average joe's do anything?" that is the symbolism behind supes getting shot down. Not to show he is weak.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

I give it a 9/10

Btw it wasn't supposed to be put online for viewing? :confused:

I caught the link on one of the threads on this site???

[Dr. Fate]

Err...

The EXACT same thing happens with Superman in the comic book. And i was sad they cut Superman/Wonder-Woman kiss.
Blame it on Lois Lane. :cwink:

[Artistsean]

Thing is though Superman got shot down cause that happens in the book. I men its kinda a sign that "Wow even superman can't stop this thing how can any of us average joe's do anything?" that is the symbolism behind supes getting shot down. Not to show he is weak.

No, I know that. What I was saying is that when they started to do that so much on JLA cartoon then it started to make him look weak (even though he wasn't.
I totally agree about the book and it never bothered me.
Plus I think the book probably came out before the JLA cartoons, right?

[Binker]

Plus I think the book probably came out before the JLA cartoons, right?

It came out (the 6 issues) when JL was ending and JLU was beginning (Mar-Nov 2004).

[Artistsean]

Hmmm?
Still I don't connect the two and Superman doesn't seem weak.
It also didn't seem like his part was count down or out of the comic.
He is featured alot in it I thought.

[Hush]

No, I know that. What I was saying is that when they started to do that so much on JLA cartoon then it started to make him look weak (even though he wasn't.
I totally agree about the book and it never bothered me.
Plus I think the book probably came out before the JLA cartoons, right?

Yeah but realistically what the deal is, Superman can solve all the Problems if he was go at them full power so the writers sorta fell in a rutbut i mean i dont care if he is shown that way even though im a fan of the character. I love seeing other characters shine, that animation has been less than favorable too.

[Midnite]

I still don't understand why the DC animated films have to be 75mins. I want at least 2 hrs damnit! :hoboj:

[Dr. Fate]

I still don't understand why the DC animated films have to be 75mins. I want at least 2 hrs damnit! :hoboj:
They seem to underestimate our willingness to sit still for a 2 hour animated feature.

[Midnite]

They seem to underestimate our willingness to sit still for a 2 hour animated feature.

They should really pay attention to the huge anime film market. :woot:

[deathshead2]

This movie is only DTV.
2 hours most likely costs to much.
Oh and I just got done watching it.
Much better than Superman doomsday, but still not up to par with better DTV movies like MOTP or return of the joker.

[Dr. Fate]

This movie is only DTV.
2 hours most likely costs to much.
Oh and I just got done watching it.
Much better than Superman doomsday, but still not up to par with better DTV movies like MOTP or return of the joker.
Seriously, can anything really stand up to/alongside MOTP?

[ToddIsDead]

Well, I think part of it is that MOTP wasn't a DTV. It was a theatrical movie and thus, a little more was put into it. Not that they skimp out on the DTVs.

[Dr. Fate]

Well, I think part of it is that MOTP wasn't a DTV. It was a theatrical movie and thus, a little more was put into it. Not that they skimp out on the DTVs.
True.

[Mikelus]

I agree, Mask of the Phantasm is simply a masterpiece, very hard to match. New Frontier is very good, but it doesn't have that extra emotional energy and intensity of MOTP. Is inevitable when you have so many characters involved and the enemy is kind of impersonal, still is one of the best CB films done so far.

[Artistsean]

Anyone know who is playing Flagg or Ace Morgan?
Or any of the bit parts like Dr. Fate or Wild Cat?

[D.P.]

Anyone know who is playing Flagg or Ace Morgan?
Or any of the bit parts like Dr. Fate or Wild Cat?

I don't know, But I'll check for you right now.

Edit:

Rick Flag - Lex Lang

Ace Morgan - John Heard

I have nothing for Fate and Wild Cat.

[deathshead2]

They're not in the movie.
even though you do see a poster for a wild cat boxing match.

[Green Goblin 1964]

When does this come out?

[ANTOINE X]

What a crap! It s so ironic I was criticizing the art and though the story will be something worth it but actually its the other way around. I got used to the drawing and the story suck like I couldn't imagine. With some patriotism bulls***t. They better not scrap JLA movie like this. Please WB take your time but don't scrap like this!:csad:

[Ghostrider87]

This is going to excellent. I am so glad it's going to be released soon.

[Mikelus]

What a crap! It s so ironic I was criticizing the art and though the story will be something worth it but actually its the other way around. I got used to the drawing and the story suck like I couldn't imagine. With some patriotism bulls***t.

What a bunch of crap is precisely what you wrote! :whatever:

The "patriotism BS" is right for the era the story takes place, the 1950s. The art style is beautiful, based on the award-winning comic book, is different, that's all. Maybe the story wasn't violent enough for you? Maybe cause Superman couldn't beat the monster alone pissed you off? :o
Narrow minds can't comprehend the subtlety of things.

[ANTOINE X]

What a bunch of crap is precisely what you wrote! :whatever:

The "patriotism BS" is right for the era the story takes place, the 1950s. The art style is beautiful, based on the award-winning comic book, is different, that's all. Maybe the story wasn't violent enough for you? Maybe cause Superman couldn't beat the monster alone pissed you off? :o
Narrow minds can't comprehend the subtlety of things.

Look I'm not gonna do a battle of words with you , you re not worth it:whatever:. But lets talk about JLA. First the blood was unnecessary it doesn't fit at all in that movie And it s not because something is old that its good! They tried to give us some kind of nostalgia of the 50 s, maybe it worked for U but not for me. I m not gonna say too much cause some people here want to by the dvd . But let say the villains were a big disappointment.You have your opinion and I have mine which is stay away from that! I fyou like it than good for you and go buy the DVD.

[Nightwing]

When does this come out?
The official website (http://www.warnervideo.com/jlnewfrontier/) lists Feburary 26 for the DVD, and March 18 for the HD DVD.

[Ricky_Tan]

already out on torrent. basically a gl origin film.

[ANTOINE X]

That s what I did and I don't regret it.

[SLYspyder]

What are the best dc animated movies? Are they better than the Marvel ones I have? (Ult. Avengers 1 and 2, I'm probably going go get Iron Man) From what I'm hearing, MOTP was great. Anything else? I really enjoyed Doomsday.

[Orin]

In my opinion, The Batman Superman Movie (part of Superman TAS) and Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker are highly recommendable.

[November Rain]

aw man, i'm ten days too late, booo....

[ToddIsDead]

What are the best dc animated movies? Are they better than the Marvel ones I have? (Ult. Avengers 1 and 2, I'm probably going go get Iron Man) From what I'm hearing, MOTP was great. Anything else? I really enjoyed Doomsday.
Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker is phenomenal, but you need to make sure you get the uncut version.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker is phenomenal, but you need to make sure you get the uncut version.That is correct. The uncut version IMO is better then MOTP.

[Antrax255]

Just Saw The Movie It Was Awesome

[Super_Ludacris]

Appearntly this just leaked out last week. Heard its just like the book (which aint necessairly a good thing especially if we're talking vol. 2)

[GregComicFan]

I've seen all the recent comic book straight-to-DVD movies. The only two I have NOT seen are Doctor Strange and the Hellboy movie.

In my opinion...

Mask of the Phantasm and Return of the Joker remain the best ever produced.... the coolest stories, most emotional impact, excitement, etc.

I also find Batman: Subzero to be very enjoyable and a fine conclusion to Mr. Freeze's character arc. I kinda wish he never appeared again afterwards (his character went NOWHERE during the TNAB time period, where he became a walking head....)

The thing I dont like about the Avengers movies are the lack of a compelling villain. The "alien threat" is completely lame and boring. Aliens as villains have NO PERSONALITIES, NO COMPLEXITY. The Hulk was a more interesting villain than the aliens at the end of Avengers 1. I liked Avengers 2 more than 1. Iron Man was pretty good, but not amazing.

Superman: Brainiac Attacks or whatever it was called sucked.

Superman: Doomsday was....good.... but I'm jaded because, even though I understand the history of the comic it is based upon, I felt like it was a total REPEAT of past Superman storylines. Once again, it was basically "Superman goes bad... Superman's dark-side..." because Superman had to face off against an evil clone of himself, and that took up 2/3 of the movie. Okay, yeah, we saw this with "Legacy" in STAS, "Twlight" in JL Season 2, the Cadmus arc covered this... Batman Beyond's "The Call" had Superman go bad.... ENOUGH WITH SUPERMAN GOING BAD ALREADY!!!!

Justice League: The New Frontier was solid. I would rate it:

Justice League: The New Frontier
Avengers 2
Iron Man
Superman: Doomsday
Avengers 1

New Frontier was basically a GL origin story, but I still felt I didn't really get to know who Hal Jordan was as a person....

While watching the New Frontier, I was also jaded. I felt like the storyline was WAY TOO SIMILAR to the first 3 episodes of Justice League. Obviously New Frontier came out as a comic prior to JL becoming a cartoon show, but still, it felt like a repeat of things I saw before. HOWEVER, New Frontier was SUPERIOR in so many ways to JL's "Secret Origins" 3 parter.

Martian Manhunter was way more interesting and compelling. They NAILED the Flash and had New Frontier been the first 3 parter of the JL cartoon it would of made a lot more sense who the Flash was as a person. Wonder Woman was well-characterized too, I felt. She was a lot more feministic and tough-as-nails and hard-headed, unlike JL's Diana, which was more like a pampered princess...

That's basically how I see it. New Frontier is like a superior version of JL's "Origin" 3 part opener.... except it's Hal Jordan instead of John Stewart, no Hawkgirl, and it's during the 1950s.....


Greg

[Cmill216]

Saw it a couple of weeks ago. It was Mehs-ville. Voices weren't up to par with the JLU efforts, and I just wasn't feeling the story. Though, I did like the animation and the costumes.

6.5/10

[deathshead2]

Appearntly this just leaked out last week. Heard its just like the book (which aint necessairly a good thing especially if we're talking vol. 2)
This thing got leaked like a month ago.

[Super_Ludacris]

Shiet, and its a couple of week's away from DVD release. I'll let DL then

[Ghostrider87]

Well I am glad it's Feb because it's closer to this getting released.

[ANTOINE X]

Saw it a couple of weeks ago. It was Mehs-ville. Voices weren't up to par with the JLU efforts, and I just wasn't feeling the story. Though, I did like the animation and the costumes.

6.5/10

like your avatar :woot::up:

[p4poetic]

Yes I do. Thanks.

This is some pages from the New Frontier Comic, some of the same scenes shown in recent screencaps.


and here are some other pics from the comic, character designs
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/wonderchick.jpg



The shorts WW costume version is pretty good alternative.

[PJBoy]

Just watched it... that's not bad.

[p4poetic]

My friend posted the link to it here:

http://www.riderpower.net/showthread.php?p=30399#post30399

It was a great movie, awesome ending.

Its been removed :(

Why do this? Don't watch it online, watch it when it comes out. By watching it online, or dl-ing it online , before it comes out, you ruin and hurt WB and us for future releases.

Please, just wait. Please don't see/dl it online.

I'm going to download it and buy the DVD :cwink:

[JTStarkiller]

Just watched it. Wasn't the masterpiece I was expecting (nothing is going to match MOTP, or possibly even ROTJ), but it was incredibly good. The last minute is wonderful.

[THE MR. TERRIFIC]

I actually just finished reading both volumes and was pleasantly surprised. This is for anyone who has seen the movie, will I be disappointed?

[Ghostrider87]

I am going to get this from Best Buy with my best buy gift card. I can't believe there was a person complainning that it had so much time with it on Hal Jordan. Hello if you read the plot and novel it's centered on two leads Martin Manhunter and Hal Jordan.

[Super_Ludacris]

The movie is exactly like the book. Which is either a good or bad thing depending on if you actually liked volume 2 of the story. But its ver much like it.

[pdawg247]

I finally saw Justice League and I have to say I was a little disappointed with the story line. The story seemed to be rushed for my liking. But, hey that's just me.

[Joker]

I'm...aquiring it right now. I'll buy the DVD either way, to add to my collection though. Hell, I own all the seasons of The Batman, and the Catwoman movie. No way it could be worse than those :o

[Hush]

I'm...aquiring it right now. I'll buy the DVD either way, to add to my collection though. Hell, I own all the seasons of The Batman, and the Catwoman movie. No way it could be worse than those :o

Why do you own Catwoman? Are you a completist?

[Joker]

Why do you own Catwoman? Are you a completist?

Yup. I'm a little bit behind on my TV stuff with DC right now though. Still need to get Season 4 of Titans, the last 2 sets of Super Friends they released, and the Swamp Thing live action series...oh, and the newest season of Smallville, but I'm waiting for a price drop on it. Other than that, I have every single other DC thing they've released on DVD, and a few they havent :o

Besides, I got Catwoman used on half off day at the store...so it was only $2.

[The Guard]

Is the kind of thing Target will be carrying?

[Joker]

Yeah, Target will have it. If they had Superman: Doomsday, they'll have this.

[Pimpjuice16]

heres a clip of flash from the movie.

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[sto_vo_kor_2000]

heres a clip of flash from the movie.

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Its showing blank.

[Joker]

I just finished watching it. I dont understand any of the complaints about it, it was fantastic, and even better than Superman: Doomsday. It's one of the best animated movies I've ever seen.

[Nightwing]

Is the kind of thing Target will be carrying?
They'll have it.

[Pimpjuice16]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anIGdDqCOrI heres the clip link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anIGdDqCOrI

[Casius--J]

Saw this a couple of weeks ago, it was ok could've been better. Batmans voice was off to me couldnt get used to it.

Superman doomsday was waay better!

[Hush]

Yup. I'm a little bit behind on my TV stuff with DC right now though. Still need to get Season 4 of Titans, the last 2 sets of Super Friends they released, and the Swamp Thing live action series...oh, and the newest season of Smallville, but I'm waiting for a price drop on it. Other than that, I have every single other DC thing they've released on DVD, and a few they havent :o

Besides, I got Catwoman used on half off day at the store...so it was only $2.

I can understand that I have all of the Justice League series and i need to finish Batman and Superman series but I just don't have a good enough Job to get al the stuff i want so i just pick up new stuff mainly and use Holidays to catch up on older stuff, lol.

[The Guard]

Hush, I'll bet you can get a lot of this from your local library. And if they don't have it, you may be able to request that they acquire it for their collection.

[Joker]

Saw this a couple of weeks ago, it was ok could've been better. Batmans voice was off to me couldnt get used to it.

Superman doomsday was waay better!

I agree with Batmans voice, but he wasnt in it that much.

And I totally disagree with the Superman: Doomsday thing. That was an hour of meaningless action and violence. This had great action, and it actually had a nice message behind it too, as opposed to S:D which was just fluff.

[Artistsean]

Here are some more pics from New Frontier, posted on ComicsContinuum.com.
I'm putting these ones in spoilers just because some people might not want to see any more pics before seeing the actual movie.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/newfrontier1a.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/newfrontier2a.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/newfrontier3a.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/newfrontier4a.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/newfrontier5a.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/newfrontier6a.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/newfrontier7a.jpg

There was also an article but I didn't read it.

Enjoy.

[drphosphorus]

They going to release an HD dvd?

I tried to search for it but I only found weird other videos: http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/74193/

I just got a new TV and I would LOVE to watch it in either blu ray or HD (I have a PS3!!)

[Artistsean]

More images from the show, don't know if they are spoilers but just incase some people would rather not see any more images from the movie until they see it:

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/Hal1.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/Hal2.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/Hal3.jpg

Found them on Comics Continuum again, with another article.

[Dr. Fate]

Thanks for the pics Art.

[Artistsean]

No problem
Heres some more:

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/batman1.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/batman2.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/batman3.jpg
The last one was already posted, but this is a slightly better version.

In spoilers just in case.

[GoldenAgeHero]

pretty good flick...the voice acting was top notch(unlike doomsday,which sucked imo). everything from the comic was adapted panel for panel(except the john henry part) which would've served the film better imo. the one thing that keeps popping in my mind tho is it really worth seeing a panel for panel film of the comic? no not really I stick with the comic..whats the point?


all in all 8/10( i give it an 8 because i always thought the threat was lame)..would've been a 9 if they kept the john henry part with the rhyming scheme.

[BlackLantern]

I got lucky today as the Blockbuster I frequent has New Frontier in their retail section and the girl who checked me out didnt know the movie wasnt released yet

[Gigo]

I got lucky today as the Blockbuster I frequent has New Frontier in their retail section and the girl who checked me out didnt know the movie wasnt released yet

Rumor has it there's a pre-view for the new Dark Knight animated tie-in on there, any truth to that?

[BlackLantern]

Rumor has it there's a pre-view for the new Dark Knight animated tie-in on there, any truth to that?

Dont know...havent watched it yet, but if there is I'll post

[Prison Mike]

isn't the Dark Knight preview the same one that SHH main page posted from youtube?

[BlackLantern]

the new frontier dvd has a behind the scenes feature on Gotham Knight...which is the animated tie in with TDK....

[Artistsean]

So its in stores now?

[BlackLantern]

No, like I posted earlier...the blockbuster I go to had it on the shelf even though it doesnt get released untill the 26th and the girl at the register didnt know any better. most stores usually get the following weeks release a week or two before actual release....rental comes in one chunk and retail in another....Im guessing JL got thrown into a box of already released stuff and was put out unbeknownst to anyone....so i saw it on the shelf, bought it and walked out

[Joker]

Yeah, my guess is most places have already got it in, but are holding it back due to the street date. If you wanted to be a dick, you could probably call the WB and report that store for breaking street date...usually they have some kind of reward for reporting it.

[BlackLantern]

I used to work there and it was probably an honest mistake considering there were only 2 copies for sale and I bought one

[Hush]

I used to work at Blockbuster as well and im thinking that maybe its just lazy employment. She should have scanned it to check the date before she put it out ther Oh well, good for you Black Lantern its kinda cool to have that Blockbutser power again isnt it? lol

[BlackLantern]

well new stock goes out on the shelf wednesdays and I bought it sunday morning...so someone screwed up, but its for my benefit, so ill take it

[Hush]

You mean tuesday's, that is the universal release date for Movies and such.

[BlackLantern]

I know that. all blockbusters usually receive their stock on wednesdays...those shipments usually include releases for the next week or two along with new retail and refill for current stock. considering that New Frontier comes out next Tuesday, what I'm guessing happened was it got packed in the current stock retail shipment and was put out on the shelf this past wednesday.....so when i went in sunday morning, it had already been sitting out there since then.....and the register person didnt know any better....

[union_jak]

You mean tuesday's, that is the universal release date for Movies and such.
By universal you mean American, right? :cwink:

In the UK movies come out on DVD on Mondays and in cinemas on Thursdays :yay:

[Hush]

By universal you mean American, right? :cwink:

In the UK movies come out on DVD on Mondays and in cinemas on Thursdays :yay:

How Arrogant of me, yes by "Universal" I meant American. lol Thatis interesting that you get DVD's on Monday. Movies in theater released on thursdays in no big suprise since they kinda vary over here.

[Visceral]

yeah i thought this was okay 7/10 good

[BlackLantern]

Im a big GL fan so I really liked it....I really enjoyed the setting and the design of the film. Superman and Batmans old costumes.......i give it an 8 out of 10

[explode7]

I just saw JLA NEW FRONTIER. I liked it but not as much as Superman Doomsday. Didn't like the 50's style of the justice league. Seemed really outdated and corny and really really cheesy.

[BlackLantern]

^^^well considering the original graphic novel is set in the 1950's.....thats kind of the point. Darwyn Cooke (who did the story) is a big silver age fan...hence the setting

[Artistsean]

More Pictures:

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/greenlantern1.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/greenlantern3.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/greenlantern2.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/greenlantern4.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/greenlantern5.jpg

[JTStarkiller]

I can't wait to see this movie in high definition.

[Dr. Fate]

Any Aquaman pics? I know his part is small & all but last time I checked he was still slated to appear.

[Hush]

Only 5 days away before we can bask in its greatness.

[Noir]

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=28390350

preveiw clip new one!

[DeathRaven]

this just keeps getting better and better!

[explode7]

Any Aquaman pics? I know his part is small & all but last time I checked he was still slated to appear.

Yeah he appeared at the ending after bringing superman back from the depths of the ocean and only said one line which was basically introducing himself as the king of Atlantis.

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1390/vlcsnap64976xw4.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1390/vlcsnap64976xw4.70ccb94d25.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=509&i=vlcsnap64976xw4.png)


http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/6141/vlcsnap65085eh9.png (http://imageshack.us)

[Primal Slayer]

Saw it a couple days ago, it was a good movie. Enjoyed it more then Doomsday, they did a great job with WW.

[Sawyer]

Holy hell, that one with Hal's fist coming straight toward the frame was amazing.

[DrMylesOBoogie]

its alot better then Superman/Doomsday but still not as good as it should have been. they still dont seem to know how to pace a feature animated imo.

they cut some of the big money shots moments from the comic and the single most powerfull moment for me when the little girl gives up john henry to the KKK.

the main problem is that ive seen many episodes of Justice League that had better animation and were even scored better.

voice acting was pretty hit and miss. i thought superman was cool but jeremy sisto is brilliant as Batman.

[Dr. Fate]

Yeah he appeared at the ending after bringing superman back from the depths of the ocean and only said one line which was basically introducing himself as the king of Atlantis.

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1390/vlcsnap64976xw4.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1390/vlcsnap64976xw4.70ccb94d25.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=509&i=vlcsnap64976xw4.png)


http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/6141/vlcsnap65085eh9.png (http://imageshack.us)


Thanks.

[protocida]

''I'm Arthur of Atlantis! This one has been calling for a Woman named Lois!''.

I Liked his apperance, but i think they sould keep his participation in the battle, mentally coordenating the animals to help the heroes while medicating Superman.

[The Guard]

Is this worthing buying, or is it an initial rental?

[JTStarkiller]

Buying.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

its alot better then Superman/Doomsday but still not as good as it should have been. they still dont seem to know how to pace a feature animated imo.

they cut some of the big money shots moments from the comic and the single most powerfull moment for me when the little girl gives up john henry to the KKK.

the main problem is that ive seen many episodes of Justice League that had better animation and were even scored better.

voice acting was pretty hit and miss. i thought superman was cool but jeremy sisto is brilliant as Batman.

I don't know that I would say it is A LOT better than SD

SD my biggest gripe wasn't the story itself but the animation.

[GoldenAgeHero]

i can't believe people liked doomsday,that was a crappy film on all levels. mediocre story telling, bad voice acting, and horrid animation( well it wasn't that bad,but it still sucked).

Frontier IS alot better. quality animation,solid storytelling(although lame threat),and great voice acting.

[dnno1]

I don't know that I would say it is A LOT better than SD

SD my biggest gripe wasn't the story itself but the animation.

Said like a comic book fan. Always critical of something (even the artwork).

[Hush]

Said like a comic book fan. Always critical of something (even the artwork).

Dude you can't expect the film to get no critiquing. It was made for the fans and as fans we voice what we did not like and what we did like.

[Retroman]

I haven't seen anything about a region 2 dvd release of the New Frontier film.:( :down

[Antonello Blueberry]

I haven't seen anything about a region 2 dvd release of the New Frontier film.:( :down
Yes. I'm saying it now and I'm not ashamed, I'm going to download the movie while they wait to release the movie here in the old continent.

[Orin]

Well, if you have a DVD-Player that only plays R2 DVDs you can still make it codefree so that it plays every DVD, no matter which regioncode it has. Just google that name of your DVD-Player and the word "codefree" and you should find a guide...

[The Guard]

Is this really going to be On Demand?

[TheBlueMcCoy82]

Just got through watching it and loved it. A heck of a lot better than Superman/Doomsday. It took me a while to get used to Batman's voice but it grew on me. Its just hard hearing someone else besides Kevin Conroy.

I give it a 7/10. Animation was top notch.

[Superman]

Just saw it on PPV. I liked it, It was alot of fun. :up::woot:

[Superman]

Is this really going to be On Demand?Yup, That's where I saw it.:woot:

[Prison Mike]

I ordered the DVD. Should be here tomorrow and then I can see it! Can't wait to watch it. It looks really good.

[Dodger]

Just watched online. outstanding. I loved how they didn't hold back and showed some violence and swearing. Batman, I loved. Sisto did a good job.

My only problem with the movie was the pacing. I feel the final battle went a bit too quickly but hey, that's OK. The movie still rocked. :up: :up:

[CaptainCanada]

I was never a huge fan of the original story; I quite liked the idea of the story, but how it was actually told just didn’t click for me, because of the art (which I found unsuited to the subject; it’s hard to take seriously a story where all the women are cherubs) and the crowded, unfocussed story. However, I am a huge fan of the DCAU animation crew, so having them adapting it was a huge plus, and I figured that the need to cut for a 75 minute movie would actually work to the story’s benefit. And, indeed, that’s the case here.


There’s been a lot of characters and scenes excised, but what there is almost qualifies as a photographic/word-by-word reproduction of the book. Cooke was involved in the DCAU (Batman Beyond especially), so his work translates very well to the Timm animated world. On the stuff that was cut, principally:

1. The Challengers, apart from Ace Morgan.
2. Minor cameos in the book are cut down to visual cameos here, including Green Arrow and Adam Strange.
3. In particular, the really dumb scene with all the mystical heroes deciding not to help stop the destruction of the world because this is ‘a new age’ isn’t here, which is a huge plus.
4. The only really notable scene from any of the kept plots that isn’t here is Superman’s visit to Themyscira and his conversation with Diana about leadership; instead, there’s a scene with Lois that addresses basically the same theme.
5. The ‘John Henry’ plot, which is confined to a news report here.
6. The Losers.

The story itself is still basically focussed on Hal and J’onn (it feels even more Hal-centric here than the book, maybe because they cut all the thought monologues, which affects J’onn a lot more than Hal). One of the things that I do credit the book for is writing one of the few versions of J’onn I’ve ever found interesting; conversely, the book-Hal is saddled with some truly horrid dialogue, which is absent here, so that’s another plus for the film.

My one real complaint: incredibly, despite the fact that her part is minor, the DCAU crew finds room to screw up Wonder Woman’s mythos. In the book, the scene where the Centre overwhelms Themyscira is preceded by a snippet of Diana and some other Amazon cheerfully fencing; in the film, the other Amazon is angry with her, says that many of them want "new leadership", and then attacks her. For ****’s sake, people, the DCAU’s botching of the Amazons was already one of the few black marks on the whole enterprise, and you still haven’t found time to actually read any of her comics? Ugh, that does not fill me with hope for the WW animated movie in the works.

[C. Lee]

I just finished watching it....absolutely fantastic, I loved it.

[Sub-Zero]

should i read the graphic novel before i see the movie?

[explode7]

^How about neither?

[PeteVenkman]

I bought it as an early birthday present to myself. It was amazing. It's so weird to watch something with characters that i grew up with in present day (the last twenty years) and see them in the context of 50 years ago. The animation was great, almost reminded me of Johnny Quest, if Johnny quest had a top notch budget. It's probably one of, if not, the best "cartoon" movie I've ever seen.

[Dr. Fate]

That sucks that they cut Superman visiting Wonder Woman at Themyscira & replaced it with him hanging with Lois, but I guess they did it because they thought it looked "too romantic" between Supes & Di.

[C. Lee]

should i read the graphic novel before i see the movie?

I haven't read the GN yet...but thoroughly enjoyed the movie. So I would say that you don't have to read it first.

[Noir]

I loved this movie.. This is how a Justice League movie should be done.. The JFK speak at the ending gave me chills :up:

9/10 for not having Doctor Fate.

[LostSon88]

My Target only had the single disc...am I missing much when compared to the two-disc?

I don't really listen to commentaries and from what I can tell, the single disc is only missing the "The Legion of Doom" doc.

[Joker]

there's a couple other documentaries, and some bonus JLU episodes on the 2-disc.

[The Caped Knight]

The movie was Incredible just like the comic book version.

[CLARKY]

WOW, only & just WOW!!! The movie rocks !!! I found it better than S : Doomsday. Nevertheless, I found that the movie did cut too many things from the comic book. It go straight to the goal : defeating the Centre.
The actors were good, effects and animation too. Sometimes it had a feeling of old cartoon, I regret there were not more things like this.
To be honest I'm not entirely satisfied with the movie, but it is still truely excellent. :up:

[Ghostrider87]

I am getting it today from Best Buy. It should excellent and there will be a lot of screen time from Hal Jordan.

[Sub-Zero]

just saw it. pretty good. aside from wonder woman's cheesy one liners at the end. much, much better than superman:doomsday(and that's coming from a superman fan). can't wait for gotham knight.

[The Guard]

Watched it On Demand last night, and I'm really glad I didn't purchase it. Given the potential of the source material, there's just not much there to cheer about in the final product. It was a bit more mature (or at least it tried to be) than the average animated product, and that was interesting to see.

I've never been a huge fan of the storyline for The New Frontier (I think it's very simplistic and very random), so I may be a bit biased, but The Centre was just cheesy and poorly developed, and having Keith David give it a human voice didn't help.

The voice acting, with the exception of Jeremy Sisto's Batman and the voice actor for Superman, was mediocre at best. Lucy Lawless was ridiculously over the top as Wonder Woman, and almost every single other voice actor was off the mark, pretty much soundling like they were reading their lines or simply not giving a damn about their roles. Absolutely hated David Boreanaz's nigh emotionless, very one note Hal Jordan in most of his scenes.

The animation ranged from fantastic to terrible. The power usages were pretty inconsistent, the flights looked just terrible, and the capes looked even worse. Someone needs to explain to some of these animators that people do not always close their eyes and smile like anime characters when they cheer or applaud.

The action sequences were nothing impressive after what we've seen from previous Justice League animated projects. I was left feeling like someone dropped the ball at some point.

There were some moments I enjoyed, mostly the throwback character designs and nods to things like the JSA, and moments with Batman, Superman, Hal Jordan finding Abin Sur and Green Lantern VS The Centre, but overall, the project just felt...scattered. At least SUPERMAN: DOOMSDAY had some decent emotion and animation/action to it.

[explode7]

^Well if you think that is bad you should go watch the avengers.

[The Guard]

I have. ULTIMATE AVENGERS was easily a better all around effort. Better animation, better acting, more interesting dialogue, you name it.

[Dread]

After months of eager anticipation after some good trailers, JUSTICE LEAGUE: THE NEW FRONTIER hit store shelves yesterday (as a normal release and a 2-disc special addition that's maybe $5 more) and if I can gauge my ancedotal account, this will sell very well. I went to a BEST BUY store in the heart of Manhattan in the early afternoon (before 3:30 p.m.) and the 2-disc special edition was already sold out, and by the time I finished plucking a DVD off the shelf, 2-3 other guys had already done likewise. I haven't seen a comic based DTV selling this well since the original ULTIMATE AVENGERS. Naturally, with Bruce Timm & Co. behind the production and with Darwyn Cooke himself involved in the production, we expected an instant classic.

My first gut reaction after seeing it? This was a good film that was utterly cheated out of timeless greatness by a low running time. As it is, it is A-/B+ quality. Had it been allowed more time, it could have easily been an A+ translation.

I actually read the comic book version of the story, which is titled DC: THE NEW FRONTIER, last year in anticipation of this tale. That title is accurate because while it does focus on various characters like Hal Jordon, J'onn, and so on, it really encompasses a wide range of the DCU of the Silver Age. It was a story where more of the enjoyment for me was in the details and the style than in the actual plot. Cooke's attention to detail and handling both comic book and real life elements from the 50's era was incredible. Working in themes of racism and McCarthyism alongside the costumes and aliens and dinosaurs really made it click, along with the strong character focus on Hal, Barry, and J'onn. Cooke's immediate reaction to hearing about this animated project was, according to a teaser blurb, "there is NO WAY they could tell this story in so short a time frame", or words to that effect.

Essentially, he is correct.

At 75 minutes, the story basically grinds through a CLIFF'S NOTES version of the story, scaling down many scenes to the bare bones and eliminating a lot of the spare elements meant for mood, or details about lessor characters (The Losers sequence that opens the comic is completely eliminated for instance, with only Faraday's death scene homaging it, and other bits pop up in title sequences). More than some stories, NEW FRONTIER was a tale where the devil really IS in the details and without them, you have a good, fun adventure story, but it isn't quite the same. Because, boiled down, the plot is fairly generic; various heroes and government people team up against all odds to destroy an alien menace before it kills the planet. NEW FRONTIER was about more than that simple plot, but without a second to spare for that sort of thing, the animated movie is forced to be more blunt and concise and while I enjoyed it, it just didn't have that OOMPH I got from some of the comic. I am also curious how those who hadn't read the comic would react to this bare bones treatment; I could imagine some 13 year old kid who hasn't read it going, "ULTIMATE AVENGERS had more action" and dismissing it.

The fact that the running time is so short is one of those areas where the execs at WB that approve these things simply do not get it. 75 minutes is naturally the "golden time" for a DTV so it can be re-aired on some network and only require a 90 minute block (15 minutes worth of commercials). However, these DTV's are intended for an older audience and the language alone will prevent it from airing on CN unless they really bend some standards. If these are meant to be standalone movies to appeal to older fans, then they need to be MOVIES and not snippets barely longer than 3 episodes of a TV show. Disney & Pixar have gotten movie audiences used to longer animated movies. THE INCREDIBLES, CARS, and RATATOUILLE all bordered close to the two hour mark. Even Marvel LG's DTV's, which are hardly as classic as some of the Timm material, started getting it right with their later releases, inching closer to the 90 minute marker and even surpassing it (if the box to DOCTOR STRANGE is to be believed). At 75 minutes, JL:NF is packed to the gills and hardly any scene or character has room to breathe. The fact that despite all this the movie is still enjoyable says something about the devotion of the production team and actors chosen.

Despite the low running time, there were some notable changes to the core storyline, basically to allow Batman and Superman at least one extra scene than they had in the comic version, if not several. This I am sure was done for corporate reasons, as Batman & Superman are the biggest stars DC has. Batman especially, as his movie/TV franchise is the healthiest of any DC character right now. Since the film had to rely more on the actual plot, more effort was made to connect The Centre to the other superheroes via having him "posess" the various villains they are fighting, such as Captain Cold for Flash or that cult-leader for Batman & J'onn in Gotham. It was awkward at first but it helped connect things together since this was the basic plot so I felt it worked out. Some scenes were negated or altered; the scene with Hal as a kid is completely gone and I think that was a bad call, but again, with only 75 minutes, what can you do? Rather than meeting Batman with Gordon via the Batsignal to give him the data on The Centre before trying to rocket home, J'onn managed to invade the Batcave. J'onn in particular relies more on shapechanging and his density/invisibility powers than strength, much as he did in JL/U, as Timm naturally seeks to separate him from Superman, and I always am down for that. The biggest addition was including Batman in the final battle and having him come up with some of the plans; in the comic Batman is absent from the main story after his meeting with Superman (with Robin in tow). Again, as the WB approved this story more than likely because it had Justice League characters in it, it was probably estimated quickly to include "The big three" in the final battle, even if Superman seemingly takes a powder rather quickly. Naturally Ray Palmer, Green Arrow, and Adam Strange take part in the final battle but much like everything else, even their cameos are chopped down (Green Arrow has no lines of dialogue, for instance, and the scene of Hal training as GL in the desert is omitted, another bad call for me). Faraday also isn't present in Central City for the trap to arrest Flash, which eliminated the need for a "meeting" between the pair later. Damn that run-time. One could go on and on about what was cut and altered, and I bet Cooke may have done so on his commentary track.

Naturally, the narration from the characters is gone, which in a way made it odd to watch compared to the comic. SIN CITY was perhaps the best example of translating comic narration into a media adaption and doing it well. Of course, hey, that movie was long enough to do the job, wasn't it? Another HUGE omission, beyond the Wildcat fight, was the John Henry subplot. In fact, this film cut out the racial tension bit almost altogether. They kept the focus on the Cold War era paranoia but eliminated the race issue, which I felt was a huge mistake. All Henry gets is a footnote mention. Again, every issue you point to, and it all comes back to, "they didn't have the time."

The animation models do a great job of trying to capture Cooke's style, although they do have more angular elements, which seems to be Timm's thing. More straight lines and points and whatnot than Cooke did. But the core elements of his style are present in every design, and it is even clearer that Wonder Woman is slightly taller than Superman in NF, which is a detail I always liked (as well as her nickname for him, "spaceman"). The animation quality is better than many episodes of JLU and that's fine for a DTV. Some of the Flash running bits looked a little awkward but aside for that everything looked peachy. Flash's eyebrows did get somewhat distracting but aside for that, everything looked good, especially Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, J'onn, and Green Lantern himself.

The casting is top notch for over 95% of it; casting Keith David as The Centre was a mark of genius by Andrea Romano, and he totally nailed that role. Naturally, animation voiceover regulars like Lex Lang, Corey Burton, and Townsend Coleman all get roles to play, but the rest of the cast has done more sparse voice acting roles but they by and large do the job quite well. I will say that I didn't care for Jeremy Sisto's Batman; yes, I know after nearly 15 years of Kevin Conroy it is hard for anyone to step into the cowl, but Rino Romano and Ron Perlman have voiced the character since in various areas and I haven't minded them. Sisto acted well, I just thought he was a bit miscast, TOO gravelly. David Boreanaz is perfect as Hal Jordon naturally and Neil Patrick Harris does great as The Flash, which I figured he would having done Spider-Man a few years ago (The MTV series). Much ado was made of Lucy Lawless voicing Wonder Woman considering she often comes into the running for live action versions and by and large her performance was good; she said some lines with more gusto than was needed but that's just niggling really. Kyle MacLachlan's Superman sounded great too, perfect for the 50's era and perhaps a little beyond (I am unsure whether I preferred him to Adam Baldwin, who voiced Superman in SUPERMAN: DOOMSDAY or not). From Brooke Shields to Kyra Sedgwick (who last worked with Timm on MYSTERY OF THE BATWOMAN, the last Batman animated material for the "Timmverse" that was made), the cast is stellar. Miguel Ferrer's J'onn naturally is worth mentioning. As always, Andrea Romano knows how to cast a...uh, cast. The little bump with Sisto isn't a major thing with me.

I bought the basic DVD so the only extras were a JUSTICE LEAGUE featurette that was about twice as long as any of the ones on Marvel LG features, a sneak peak at BATMAN: GOTHAM KNIGHTS (which I call "The Batiatrix" as it basically has the same format as THE ANIMATRIX a few years ago), and two commentary tracks. Even for a non-special edition, that's more extras than Marvel's DTV's offer, and is almost on par with the HELLBOY ANIMATED DTV's (which are ALWAYS loaded with great stuff). Naturally the 2-disc special edition has more stuff as well as 3 episodes of JLU on it, which is more than worth the few extra bucks if you feel like nabbing it. The WB used to charge $19.99 for 3-4 episodes of JLU alone, if one recalls.

Finally, when I watched SUPERMAN: DOOMSDAY, it became very clear to me that Timm & Co. didn't care for the original DEATH OF SUPERMAN storyline and thus didn't feel obligated to translate it terribly faithfully, doing about 70% of their own thing with it, even if that meant rehashing some Bizarro episodes of S:TAS. JUSTICE LEAGUE: NEW FRONTIER on the other hand shows a passionate love for the source material, with as many scenes and lines from the comic translated as humanly possible. That is why it pains me so much that the low run time ripped a lot of the soul out of Cooke's work here. Had Timm & Co. BEEN given an extra 15-30 minutes, I am sure it would have been legendary, or at least better. It is about time the WB was willing to put the time and money into making these things as long as an actual movie and not barely longer than an infomercial. Every animated DTV has been creeping towards and past the 90 minute mark and it is time that WB does so as well. I mean, could anyone imagine KINGDOM COME in 75 minutes? Because I sure as hell wouldn't want to.

Still, this is easily better than BATMAN: SUBZERO, or BRAINIAC ATTACKS, or some other of the DC DTV's. Parts of SUPERMAN: DOOMSDAY jazzed me more but only because of the violence and the "WTF crazy stuff is coming next?" factor, as this was more predictable; overall this is a better product than S: D even if it is very different.

Had this bordered on 2 hours like CARS, I am sure this would be in the pantheon of DTV's or Western animation to begin with. As is, it is a satisfying plain hamburger instead of one with all the proper fixin's. It is very good but kept from greatness by the low run time. In a perfect world I'd love for another edition, a "director's cut" to emerge with another half hour, more scenes and whatnot, but I doubt that. For 75 minutes, this is the best NEW FRONTIER could have been. The opening and endings were particularly memorable with stellar use of music. Can't go wrong with that.

[explode7]

I have. ULTIMATE AVENGERS was easily a better all around effort. Better animation, better acting, more interesting dialogue, you name it.

Well thats your opinion. I think the avengers sucked a whole heap of donkey balls especially Avengers 2. And dont even get me started on that crap fest The Invincible Iron Man.

[The Guard]

I will agree with one thing said here. The running time had a huge effect on the film. Those "little moments" were missed.

[Prison Mike]

I just saw it and thought it was great. I haven't read the graphic novel so I came into this movie knowing virtually nothing about the plot. I was pleasantly surprised with the story and I loved that they showed some violence and blood and also swearing. The only thing I wasn't sure about was Batman. His voice seems off, like it wasn't organic like the rest of the characters. Also, everytime Hal spoke, I just kept thinking about Angel (David Boreanaz). So I guess the familiarity of his voice took me away from the character. The rest of the cast was great. The voice for Superman was perfect and I liked how the big three already knew each other and worked with each other (so we don't waste time with their introductions). The final battle scene was a bit short for my liking and Superman wasn't in it enough at the end. Overall, the movie was great and I enjoyed it more than Superman Doomsday. I would give this movie a B+.

[IzzyJG99]

It could've been a lot better. When adapting a book like New Frontier you can't expect to make it 75 minutes and it actually be well liked or received. It was good and all, but seriously they could have done so much better. If WB had a brain in their head they'd have put some money into this and actually made this into some sort of feature length legitmate JLA movie.

[Hush]

I bought my copy at Best Buy and got a box set thingy with a Green Lantern Figurine, and the 2 disc set. FOR 20 BUCKS! talk about a steal! I thought the movie was great for what it was and some of the classic lines from the book were kept in such as Batman threatening Jo'nn, I wish though that The Challengers and The Losers would have made the cut. I also wanted the Wildcat fight, see my sig. I mean we all will complain about something we all wanted and we won't get them simple as that. I for one am happy we atleast got a NF movie i mean yeah was it missing some of the BEST comic bok panels ever created,yes, but we also got one of the most beloved comic book stories faithfully adapted. I agree with Dread 100% on his full review. Maybe this is the one story that deserved that 2 hour run time. Im a huge fan of the book and i could go on all day complainig about the inaccuracies and the cuts but i mean in the end its all good we got the NF and thats what we wanted. Kingdom COme I hope is next after Judas Contract, Gotham Night and Wonder Woman. IM not at all excited for Wonder Woman and Gotham Night has slightly peaked my interest. After Kingdom Come I hope for Hush hopefully or maybe Superman/Batman:Public Enemies. I give this 8/10 cause it blows S/D out of the water.

[IzzyJG99]

I bought my copy at Best Buy and got a box set thingy with a Green Lantern Figurine, and the 2 disc set. FOR 20 BUCKS! talk about a steal! I thought the movie was great for what it was and some of the classic lines from the book were kept in such as Batman threatening Jo'nn, I wish though that The Challengers and The Losers would have made the cut. I also wanted the Wildcat fight, see my sig. I mean we all will complain about something we all wanted and we won't get them simple as that. I for one am happy we atleast got a NF movie i mean yeah was it missing some of the BEST comic bok panels ever created,yes, but we also got one of the most beloved comic book stories faithfully adapted. I agree with Dread 100% on his full review. Maybe this is the one story that deserved that 2 hour run time. Im a huge fan of the book and i could go on all day complainig about the inaccuracies and the cuts but i mean in the end its all good we got the NF and thats what we wanted. Kingdom COme I hope is next after Judas Contract, Gotham Night and Wonder Woman. IM not at all excited for Wonder Woman and Gotham Night has slightly peaked my interest. After Kingdom Come I hope for Hush hopefully or maybe Superman/Batman:Public Enemies. I give this 8/10 cause it blows S/D out of the water.

Judas Contract is no doubt being cancelled. They'll do well with Gotham Knight, that prequel anime anthology. They'll do terrible with the Wonder Woman movie. Paul Dini said on MySpace Comics that he's seen the story boarding and says it's gonna be a "Glorified Barbie Ad."

I'd ask for a HUSH feature length animated, but I know they'd just cut it down to crap.

[modelnut]

Been a long time since I lurked or posted. I just wanted to see if anybody saw the same DVD I did.

Very disappointing. They gutted the book for the sake of time.

And having Batman running around in the daytime just doesn't work. He added nothing to the showdown with the Center and lost a perfectly good plane.

It is hard to believe that the same people involved in the excellent "Justice League" series also produced this blank-blank-blank.

BTW I thought the DC: Final Frontier graphic novel was one of the best since the original Dark Knight Returns. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of course but that is mine.

-Leelan

[union_jak]

I'm in the UK and I got my copy through PlayUSA today so I'll be watching it tonight :D

[Noir]

I think NPH should play the Flash in the Justice League movie :csad:

[BobJM]

Really really great movie. Upset though at the lack of Wonder Woman in the final battle.

And to whoever said it was cheesy, I loved when Wonder Woman said "Fight on, to the last breath!"

Great voice cast and great animation. I like how the characters and story were the bigger focus, rather than mindless fighting. I never read the GN, so i didn't know what I was getting into. Really happy I bought it.

[Hush]

Judas Contract is no doubt being cancelled. They'll do well with Gotham Knight, that prequel anime anthology. They'll do terrible with the Wonder Woman movie. Paul Dini said on MySpace Comics that he's seen the story boarding and says it's gonna be a "Glorified Barbie Ad."

I'd ask for a HUSH feature length animated, but I know they'd just cut it down to crap.

Now see I can actually see HUSH being adapted VERY well cause its a bit mor simple that NF, you knowo what i mean? Personally i think that Teen Titans movie will be made even though the front page says it wont. I have hope. I also have no intention on buying the Wonder Woman DVD.

[LostSon88]

I wouldn't mind if they cancelled Teen Titans AND Wonder Woman.

Not really a fan of either...

[Joker]

Been a long time since I lurked or posted. I just wanted to see if anybody saw the same DVD I did.

Very disappointing. They gutted the book for the sake of time.

And having Batman running around in the daytime just doesn't work. He added nothing to the showdown with the Center and lost a perfectly good plane.

It is hard to believe that the same people involved in the excellent "Justice League" series also produced this blank-blank-blank.

BTW I thought the DC: Final Frontier graphic novel was one of the best since the original Dark Knight Returns. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of course but that is mine.

-Leelan

So it's all good enough for Darwyn Cooke who wrote the graphic novel, but it's not good enough for you? I really think you fanboys need to just settle down on all of this. You have the guy who did the book saying "yeah, this movie is great, and I approve wholeheartedly of it!" and you're still going "noooo!!! I want The Losers scene in it, even though it adds nothing to the narrative!!!!! 4 hour New Frontier or nothing!!!!" like a bunch of whiney babies. If you want to see the scenes that were cut out, read the graphic novel. If you want a quick, more accesible New Frontier, watch the movie. Neither affects the other.

[Crook]

Hmm. Considering a lot of these complaints deal with what they left OUT of the original story, what would you guys recommend for someone who hasn't read or seen any of JL:NF?

I've already ordered the book, it should be here soon, and I have the movie. The only decision to make is which one to go with first.

[Noir]

Watch the movie, its good :up:

[Crook]

Yeah I'm gonna watch it, but I just wanna know which order would be suitable to get the most out of the story.

[Noir]

They're both basicly the same story, except the GN has more in it.. The movie I think conveys better just because well, all the imagining is done for you.

[Dread]

I watched the film again and naturally sometimes a re-watch is essential and can allow you to enjoy the film more now that you know what to expect, know what isn't there and can enjoy the rest. This was still a great, A- effort. But the fact remains that the only thing keeping this from being an A+ and being the top of the DTV animated heap for years to come was an extra 15-25 minutes (at least), and that is irritating. A film like this needs time to breathe, and this flick had none.

Still, in comparison to other DTV's, it is incredibly good with a slick score, good adult writing and as faithful an adaptation as one can probably expect from a show that is shorter than some DRAGON BALL Z movies.

[javi1024]

i wasnt impressed. i didnt read the graphic novel, but i could tell they took out alot cuz it felt really choppy. i bet if they split it between 2 movies (like marvel did with Ultimate Avengers) it wouldve been much better. i rate it the lowest of all the DCAU movies, but still above Mystery of the Batwoman (that blew).

[Hush]

I watched the film again and naturally sometimes a re-watch is essential and can allow you to enjoy the film more now that you know what to expect, know what isn't there and can enjoy the rest. This was still a great, A- effort. But the fact remains that the only thing keeping this from being an A+ and being the top of the DTV animated heap for years to come was an extra 15-25 minutes (at least), and that is irritating. A film like this needs time to breathe, and this flick had none.

Still, in comparison to other DTV's, it is incredibly good with a slick score, good adult writing and as faithful an adaptation as one can probably expect from a show that is shorter than some DRAGON BALL Z movies.

You know I think this is the 1st post of yours Dread that i can actually quote! lol. I want to whole heartedly agree with you on what you have said, more time is all it needed. Other than that this movie is perfect and we should be glad we got THIS! I remember there was a time when Timm wanted to go to Marvel and he stayed for US, the fans! He was sick of Justice League, Batman and Superman but no he knew we wanted more and he was told he could make his movie's and he is doing his very best with a very controling executive over his head. The WB wants to churn out 2-3 of these things a year and they know he is the guy to do it, but they also know they cost money and they want to make money so we are going to deal with this time issue for a very long time until one of us gets in those offices. Personally I would say that the two DTV's that we have gotten from The WB have FAR surpassed anything from Marvel. Sorry Dread i know where your allegiances lie but if thos movies fail to entertain the 11 year old brother in my house and this and SUPERMAN: DOOMSDAY does I think we are going to keep these DTV's commin for a while. Not sure if any of that makes sense but i felt like ranting im sure you will get it Dread you seem very intelligent. By the way check out the Documentary I think it clocked in at about the 45-50 minute mark that is almost 3/4 the movies runtime.

[Dr. Fate]

Mine finally came in the mail, my thoughts in a nutshell after watching it last night -

1) Not bad, better than other DTVs I've seen, the basic story is still there, but really should have been longer. They need to stop acting/thinking that we're incapable of sitting still for a lengthy period of time to enjoy a good story. Still, I enjoyed what was there.

2) Voice acting is good, though I worry sometimes about Bruce Timm's apparent obsession with getting "celebrity voice talent" (we all know we could have gotten performances just as good if not better from regular voice actors who are VA's by trade - people like Cam Clarke, Gary Chalk, Venus Terzo, Scott McNeill,). Kyle MacLachlan was a great Superman. Jeremy Sisto gave a good effort as Batman, though he might have been better suited to the Frank Miller Batman we saw in stuff like THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS, and there were times where I thought he sounded like Brad Garrett. Miguel Ferrer was a good Martian Manhunter, though I kept expecting to hear Carl Lumbly's voice when the character was on screen (much as everyone else kept expecting to hear Kevin Conroy's voice with Batman). Kyra Sedgewick (spelling?) was a good Lois Lane (for the few times that she actually spoke). Nothing but good vibes for the rest of the cast; you can never go wrong with having Keith David around.

3) What was up with Green Arrow having no dialogue? Were they unable to secure a celebrity voice actor for the part? We all know he spoke in the book.

4) I actually liked Lois Lane having her character design altered from the original story, since in the original she looked exactly like Carol Ferris.

5) Action sequences are well done.

6) I'm glad they kept Superman's "thunderclap" with the red-eye-wrath-of-god bit. Nice moment where he gets to pawn everyone before giving his speech.

Overall, I'd probably rate this a 7.5/8 on the DTV scale of 1 to 10.

For the record, I actually liked Ultimate Avengers 1, I thought it was a well done introduction to the characters and what not, but UA2 annoyed me more than anything else.

[Obi-Ron]

Nice moment where he gets to pawn everyone before giving his speech.


Ummmm...what?

[cerealkiller182]

The story was ok, but i was hoping for more interaction among the heroes.

Plus, there was no Matamorpho even though I saw him in some promos, which musthave been pics from the GN which I havent read

[union_jak]

I had the books beside me as I watched. Much, if not all, of the dialogue was identical to the books as were most of the scenes. Yeah, the John Henry plot is removed (but still mentioned on the tv report), and there's no Dinah-Selina-Bruce etc at the bar, but otherwise it was extremely faithful.

I couldn't get used to Jeremy Sisto as Batman, it just didn't work for me, and they should have made it at least 10 minutes longer, but it was still a great addition to the DCAU catalogue of movies.

[LostSon88]

Watched it last night.

Having never read the GN I must say that I was somewhat disappointed. I don't know, the movie itself just never really connected with me.

+
-Voice Acting
-GLs Origin
-MM Origin
-The Character Designs/Animation

-
-Not enough Action
-Not enough of the BIG 3 or even the team aspect of the Justice League
-Final Battle was lame
-Lame villian

Overall, I give it a 7/10...I found Superman: Doomsday to be much more interesting.

:cwink:

[Joker]

2) Voice acting is good, though I worry sometimes about Bruce Timm's apparent obsession with getting "celebrity voice talent" (we all know we could have gotten performances just as good if not better from regular voice actors who are VA's by trade - people like Cam Clarke, Gary Chalk, Venus Terzo, Scott McNeill,).
3) What was up with Green Arrow having no dialogue? Were they unable to secure a celebrity voice actor for the part? We all know he spoke in the book.

Just for the record, they address the issue of 2 in the commentary. It wasnt Timm. The studio wanted "big name, stunt casting" for it. So they had to do it. Not Timms idea.

And Green Arrows role was taken down to a cameo, another of the cuts they made. Thats also probably why the only thing any of the Black Hawks say is "Hawk-Ahhh!"

[Dr. Fate]

Just for the record, they address the issue of 2 in the commentary. It wasnt Timm. The studio wanted "big name, stunt casting" for it. So they had to do it. Not Timms idea.

I haven't listened to the commentary yet, but will keep that in mind from here on out.

[Joker]

Watched it last night.

-Not enough Action
-Not enough of the BIG 3 or even the team aspect of the Justice League
-Final Battle was lame
-Lame villian

Overall, I give it a 7/10...I found Superman: Doomsday to be much more interesting.

:cwink:

The problem with calling it Justice League: New Frontier is that it's not a JL story. They arent the JL till the afterword. And there was alot of action. And this movie wasnt about the big 3. It wasnt Superman/Batman/Wonder Woman: New Frontier. It's about the Green Lantern and Martian Manhunter, really. So that's not a valid complaint. That's like going to a Batman movie and complaining cause it doesnt focus enough on Alfred :confused:

[LostSon88]

The problem with calling it Justice League: New Frontier is that it's not a JL story. They arent the JL till the afterword. And there was alot of action. And this movie wasnt about the big 3. It wasnt Superman/Batman/Wonder Woman: New Frontier. It's about the Green Lantern and Martian Manhunter, really. So that's not a valid complaint. That's like going to a Batman movie and complaining cause it doesnt focus enough on Alfred :confused:

Point taken.

But at the same time, ever since JL and JLU, i've since become used to the idea of the BIG 3 anchoring any story involving the Justice League...so yeah it not so much a complaint if you look at it that way.

[phoenixflight]

I really enjoyed this movie adaptation. Watched it twice so far and I will be seeing it again with friends this weekend. Although I love the 'BIG 3', it was refreshing to see them take a 'backseat' to the main story plot.

JL:NF should not be compared to JLU, they are completely different. JLU was series television, where characters had an opportunity to be showcased and shine with character driven episodes and season long story arcs. This was a 75 minute one-shot. It did its job very well. If there needs to be a comparison to JLU, it should only be compared next to JL 'Origins' (the 3-part premiere) and not the entire series vs this single movie.

Bring it on DC Universe!! Can't wait to see what the Wonder Woman animated movie will be like.

8/10!!!

[PWN3R]

Finally got a chance to watch my copy last night, it was great. The original comic is one of my favorite stories ever, if you don't own the Absolute version, do yourself a favor and fork over the money for it.

Overall I give it an 8/10. Although it could have used maybe twenty more minutes, and I wish the Losers were actually shown, instead of a quick newspaper glimpse.

Good stuff overall.:up:

[Hush]

I have the Absolute and that is one very wonderful piece of art. I would recomend to everyone to watch this film with commentary as they exp;lain a great deal of the production process.

[Retroman]

Yes. I'm saying it now and I'm not ashamed, I'm going to download the movie while they wait to release the movie here in the old continent.
If you're planning on buying it there's no shame in doing that.:cwink:
Well, if you have a DVD-Player that only plays R2 DVDs you can still make it codefree so that it plays every DVD, no matter which regioncode it has. Just google that name of your DVD-Player and the word "codefree" and you should find a guide...
My dvd player is codefree. The problem is that my computer is not and if for example i wanted to loan the film to someone chances are he or she wouldn't be able to play it. So i'd much rather buy R2 dvd sets.

BTW Superman Doomsday isn't available here yet either.:huh::down

[deathshead2]

I can't believe it, but the NF dvd is competely sold out at the wal-mart I go to and they only had one Blu-ray left. Looks like WB is doing pretty good in the dtv market.

[Spade]

The animation was solid and surprisingly bloody (a bit too much, I thought). Still, the story could have focused more on the League rather than Hal Jordan. Maybe this would be better to someone who really loves the Silver Age, but I thought it was a little hokey. Overall, I'm disappointed.

[The Guard]

So it's all good enough for Darwyn Cooke who wrote the graphic novel, but it's not good enough for you? I really think you fanboys need to just settle down on all of this. You have the guy who did the book saying "yeah, this movie is great, and I approve wholeheartedly of it!" and you're still going "noooo!!! I want The Losers scene in it, even though it adds nothing to the narrative!!!!! 4 hour New Frontier or nothing!!!!" like a bunch of whiney babies. If you want to see the scenes that were cut out, read the graphic novel. If you want a quick, more accesible New Frontier, watch the movie. Neither affects the other.

What's he going to do? Badmouth it in public? He's probably just thrilled that something he wrote got made into a feature.

I was really disappointed. Particularly with the flights and the capes.

[cerealkiller182]

What's he going to do? Badmouth it in public? He's probably just thrilled that something he wrote got made into a feature.

I was really disappointed. Particularly with the flights and the capes.

No reason not to badmouth it in public, unless it actually liked it

[Dr. Fate]

The animation was solid and surprisingly bloody (a bit too much, I thought). Still, the story could have focused more on the League rather than Hal Jordan. Maybe this would be better to someone who really loves the Silver Age, but I thought it was a little hokey. Overall, I'm disappointed.
Except that the original story really wasn't about the League (which hadn't even come into existence until after the conflict).

[Spade]

I'm aware that the original story focused more on Jordan as well. I never said I had read the comic, though, and if it's a flaw in this film I figure it's a gripe I'd have with the comic as well. I feel that Timm's approach to the cartoon origin was far superior; focusing on one individual member for so long just makes things boring.

[The Guard]

No reason not to badmouth it in public, unless it actually liked it

Other than what DC would do to him in terms of fines, firing, never hiring him again? Yeah, there are reasons to avoid badmouthing it.

[cerealkiller182]

Other than what DC would do to him in terms of fines, firing, never hiring him again? Yeah, there are reasons to avoid badmouthing it.


Fine? Fire? maybe. Never hire him again? BS! New Frontier made money and to DC the all mighty buck will be more important.

Alan Moore speaks about his movies all the time.

[The Rocketeer]

On the cover of the 2 disc edition who is the guy in the bottom right corner. Is it ace morgan?:huh:

[Noir]

I can't believe Dr. Fate wasn't in it :csad:

[The Rocketeer]

could someone plz tell me who it is on the bottom of right hand side of the two disc edition

[Joker]

Other than what DC would do to him in terms of fines, firing, never hiring him again? Yeah, there are reasons to avoid badmouthing it.

Yeah, they would fire one of there most popular artists and writers, who surely, out of spite, wouldnt go directly to Marvel and start making them a bunch of money or anything.

[Joker]

could someone plz tell me who it is on the bottom of right hand side of the two disc edition

That would be Captain Cold.

[Hush]

I dont know what all the fuss is about with Darwyn Cooke if you watch the feature on disc 2 he clearly talks about how he is upset that they didnt make some of the scenes he wanted. He was also very wary of them even adapting it and he says so in pretty much all the features.

[Joker]

He also says he's happy with the final product though.

[Hush]

Well this i know but thing is i think people were just making assumptions that he did'nt like all of it. When there is actual fact saying that he did'nt but that he also undertstands that Timm had an exec. over his head.

[Joker]

Let's just put it this way...Would Cooke have probably wanted a word for word, scene for scene adaptation? Yes. Would WE have all wanted that too? Yes, most likely.

But, does the general public want, or even care about, that? No. In fact, I think if you put down a person who's only real knowledge of the DCU is through the movies, and told them "watch this Justice League movie!" and it started out with 20 minutes of The Losers fighting a T-Rex, they would be bored, confused, and possibly pissed off.

General Audience: The who? Losers? That's a stupid name! LOLOLOLOL!

[Compi716]

I just got the Blu-Ray disc version of this (AMAZING quality).

Overall, I really enjoyed it a lot. I'm a huge fan of the book, and I thought the movie was a great adaptation. That being said, I do think the movie could have used an extra 20 minutes or so. I was a tad disappointed that some of my favorite scenes didn't make it into the film (most of which involved the Challengers of the Unknown), but I still enjoyed it.

[The Rocketeer]

That would be Captain Cold.
your tellin me this is captain cold http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/7028/ccwg0.png..................i dont think so . Gotta be ace morgan or one of the other challengers of the unknown.

[The Guard]

Yeah, they would fire one of there most popular artists and writers, who surely, out of spite, wouldnt go directly to Marvel and start making them a bunch of money or anything.

Stranger things have happened.

I wonder if Cooke would have preferred the voice actors to ACT. Someone ask him.

[Joker]

your tellin me this is captain cold http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/7028/ccwg0.png..................i dont think so . Gotta be ace morgan or one of the other challengers of the unknown.

Look at his scene in the movie...he has that same shirt, and that same gun. It's Cap'n Cold.

[Hush]

Dude that is a challenger. Prolly Ace. Ive read the book like 10 times.