The Avengers: News and Speculation

[JP]

Keep Banner's role super small. I just want to see Hulk smash the place. I couldn't give less of a crap about Banner.

[LightningFlash]

Are you suggesting that everytime Hulk turns back, someone should moon at him? :woot: That will turn him back into the Hulk!

Hahaha...I typed that wrong obviously, BUT....

*Hulk transforms back to Bruce Banner*

Iron Man: "What the deuce? You're not who I thought you were..."

Captain American and Thor in unison: "SHUN!!!!!"

*all three turns their backs to Bruce*

Bruce Banner: "NO!!!!!!!! Come back Norton!!!!!"

What I meant was when Hulk goes back to Banner, we only see his back, and MAYBE a snippet of Bruce's face when he gets taken back.

[Evil Twin]

They are definitely two characters yeah. But dramtically, it works for Bruce's journey. Everything ties back to him. How he feels and thinks about it. Hulk is a guy who's always been there for the action. On film, I felt so as well. When he turns, he's a different being, but I loved how the films explored deeper into that. I don't see anything wrong with giving Banner more depth. Hulk doesn't seem to require that much depth as he is only there for the action. It may be different in the comics, but on film, again, the budget also sort of changes the story. I think if they had more money, they would add more to Hulk. BUt it all comes from the story and what is necessary.

I'd argue it doesn't for Bruce either because he keeps tagging out at the climax of these films for a bunch of green tinted pixels.

The fact that Hulk is only there for the action is part of the problem with the previous films.

I'd also argue that they're trying to steer a course that undercuts the drama of the story. The Hulk really isn't an evil monster in the movies. (Not that he is in the comics either.) Yeah, he's destructive, but quite a bit of that is the army's fault. It's not like Bruce is turning into a werewolf and killing people. It's inconvenient to Bruce, of course, but it's not truly tragic.

Bixby's television show recognized that issue too. And they supplied him with a different tragedy, turning into the Hulk ultimately separated Banner from the friends he made and helped out, because McGee would be on his tail. And in the end, Banner was perpetually walking away lonely. Bixby's Banner wasn't cursed to become a monster, he was cursed to be forever alone. The movies have been so intent on action, and Banner's rage issues, they haven't really made Banner's condition tragic. Or at least as tragic as it could be.

So, in the end, you have a one note Hulk and a Banner who's not that tragic and checks out at the heroic spots. Frankly, it's amazing that TIH turned out as relatively well as it did considering the constraints it was working within.

[Dark Raven]

I'd argue it doesn't for Bruce either because he keeps tagging out at the climax of these films for a bunch of green tinted pixels.

The fact that Hulk is only there for the action is part of the problem with the previous films.

I'd also argue that they're trying to steer a course that undercuts the drama of the story. The Hulk really isn't an evil monster in the movies. (Not that he is in the comics either.) Yeah, he's destructive, but quite a bit of that is the army's fault. It's not like Bruce is turning into a werewolf and killing people. It's inconvenient to Bruce, of course, but it's not truly tragic.

Bixby's television show recognized that issue too. And they supplied him with a different tragedy, turning into the Hulk ultimately separated Banner from the friends he made and helped out, because McGee would be on his tail. And in the end, Banner was perpetually walking away lonely. Bixby's Banner wasn't cursed to become a monster, he was cursed to be forever alone. The movies have been so intent on action, and Banner's rage issues, they haven't really made Banner's condition tragic. Or at least as tragic as it could be.

So, in the end, you have a one note Hulk and a Banner who's not that tragic and checks out at the heroic spots. Frankly, it's amazing that TIH turned out as relatively well as it did considering the constraints it was working within.

I agree. In fact, in one of the episodes of the TV series where he was trying to commit suicide, Banner said something to the effect that the real curse isn't the monster inside but the man he has become.

Bixby's banner was still heroic, but it was because he had that sense of decency and chose to be inspite of his situation. It was his heroism (and somewhat self-sacrificial nature) that imbued the Ferrigno Hulk with the same heroism.

[tmiller2]

I don't think it should have a lot of people in it otherwise it may become a mash of characters a-like Spiderman 3 (even though the main problem with the movie was the script, and not the number of characters)

I think the different characters should be spread out through sequels with Tony Stark being in the first one.

[OptimusPrime114]

Three days and everybody still upset.:csad:

[Webhead38]

Norton may be glad he missed out on this project. The cost just for effects will be huge and this film will either benefit or take on the liability of how Thor and Cap do beforehand. Alot of assumptions on those two being blockbusters. There's so much risk involved here since Thor is not your standard mainstream hero and Cap is getting a conceptual makeover. I wouldn't assume anything is in the bag just yet.

[MelbourneGirl]

Kevin Pennington is giving away one day passes to the day when the Marvel presentations will be... through his "boss" (probably Marvel) I guess they are trying to make him popular by the Con.
Maybe he's the new Bruce! LOL

[OptimusPrime114]

Anybody else have the feeling Kevin Pennington will end up playing a pretty important character?
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9697/kevintwitter.jpg
Giving away one day passes to the day when the Marvel presentations will be... through his "boss" (probably Marvel) I guess they are trying to make him popular by the Con.
Maybe he's the new Bruce! LOL
I don't think so! And I know there are others who agree!

[MelbourneGirl]

hehe, I was joking about Banner but maybe he will end up being Iron Fist like the rumor from CBM said (... depending on how reliable they are) What else is on schedule on Sat? This might have nothing to do with Avengers.. lol

[Antonello Blueberry]

I heard he's playing Mister Immortal from the Great Lakes Avengers.

[union_jak]

:whatever: Suuuuuuureeeeeeee.
Excuse me?

[LightningFlash]

Three days and everybody still upset.:csad:

Because, Kevin Fiege's reasons were idiotic as it seemed that the negotiations with Norton were going along nicely, plus the fact that Norton had already met up with the other guys and Whedon and was really enjoying what he heard on the Avengers film. Fiege just wants to be a snob and have a little known actor just so Fiege won't have to deal out a lot of cash, which is ridiculous.

Terrence Howard all over again. It's a shame, really.

[MelbourneGirl]

Phoenix as Edward Norton? No thank you.

I thought he was a rapper now?? LOL

[union_jak]

Bruce Banner will become a joke character if they can't get one actor to maintain some stability with the role. I predict parodies of this.

[MelbourneGirl]

I wish Eric Bana would come back. He's a great actor. Apparantly he's looking for a new franchise, too.

[sha1243]

Because, Kevin Fiege's reasons were idiotic as it seemed that the negotiations with Norton were going along nicely, plus the fact that Norton had already met up with the other guys and Whedon and was really enjoying what he heard on the Avengers film. Fiege just wants to be a snob and have a little known actor just so Fiege won't have to deal out a lot of cash, which is ridiculous.

Terrence Howard all over again. It's a shame, really.
How do you know it was it was fiege who made the decision for all you know he's just the spokesman and he telling us what the higher ups are saying cause they said Norton was getting along with everybody including fiege so it doesn't make sense that he would just go and change his mind for no reason unless somebody else told him not go with Norton. We don't know what happened or the reasons why there not going with but don't blame him for the statement that he made for all we know he probably didn't mean to offend Norton in the statement. So like I said he's probably just a spokesman cause i don't see anybody eles from marvel studios talking about these movies and I know he's not the one who is planing out the future of marvel movies.

[MelbourneGirl]

So is Betty and her dad in this movie? It will be weird if they bring back those actors and they interact with a new Bruce.

I loved the dynamic between Liv and Edward. :(

[MelbourneGirl]

Oh, in the ultimate comics Betty works for SHIELD as a secretary or something. That would be awesome if she's somehow involved in helping track down Bruce.

[union_jak]

Feige is the president of the company.

[MelbourneGirl]

http://www.msj.edu/Blog/image.axd?picture=joaquin_phoenix_beard.jpg

[LightningFlash]

How do you know it was it was fiege who made the decision for all you know he's just the spokesman and he telling us what the higher ups are saying cause they said Norton was getting along with everybody including fiege so it doesn't make sense that he would just go and change his mind for no reason unless somebody else told him not go with Norton. We don't know what happened or the reasons why there not going with but don't blame him for the statement that he made for all we know he probably didn't mean to offend Norton in the statement. So like I said he's probably just a spokesman cause i don't see anybody eles from marvel studios talking about these movies and I know he's not the one who is planing out the future of marvel movies.

*points down*

Feige is the president of the company.

Bingo.

[Son of Coul]

Stop jumping to conclusions about **** none of us know about.

[MelbourneGirl]

Avengers to film in Manhattan next year?

Here are the least controversial bits and pieces of Avengers news in quite some time.
According to one of our very well placed sources (think: USA, west coast, sunny, lots of big buildings that look like warehouses, people zipping about in electric carts) Joss Whedon’s movie version of The Avengers will be shooting in Manhattan next year. What exactly will go before the cameras isn’t yet known – or, if we’re being honest, hasn’t even been completely decided – but the plan at the moment definitely involves the SHIELD Helicarrier.

Design teams have been working on the movie for some time, even before the appointment of Joss Whedon as director, and have developed some ideas of how much of the film will look. As regards some key items – including the Helicarrier – the concept artists shared their preliminary designs with the producers of the Marvel 4D exhibit at London’s Madame Tussauds in order to create some consistency. There’s a trailer for that toon (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2010/05/31/video-madame-tussauds-4d-marvel-trailer/) here on Bleeding Cool, but it doesn’t feature the Helicarrier at all so, if you’re really that curious, you’ll have to make a trip to London yourself.

There’s apparently going to be great need for Avengers extras on the streets of Manhattan next year. Stay tuned (for several months, I expect) and we’ll tell you how and where to reply. In return, you keep us in the loop on everything you see go down.
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2010/07/13/the-avengers-to-film-in-manhattan-in-2011/

[LightningFlash]

http://www.msj.edu/Blog/image.axd?picture=joaquin_phoenix_beard.jpg

Kimbo Slice's white step-brother?

[MelbourneGirl]

Some hellicarrier ripoff images of what the SHIELD hellicarrier could look like (from Sky Captain)
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1849/skycaptain1690.jpg

[MelbourneGirl]

One more:
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/4308/valiant.png

[union_jak]

Stop jumping to conclusions about **** none of us know about.
Some people know more than others.

Just sayin'

[MelbourneGirl]

Kimbo Slice's white step-brother?

LOL, i think i picked a great pic. He already looks like he could be turning into the Hulk. :hehe:

[JeetKuneDo]

Because, Kevin Fiege's reasons were idiotic as it seemed that the negotiations with Norton were going along nicely, plus the fact that Norton had already met up with the other guys and Whedon and was really enjoying what he heard on the Avengers film. Fiege just wants to be a snob and have a little known actor just so Fiege won't have to deal out a lot of cash, which is ridiculous.

Terrence Howard all over again. It's a shame, really.

So everything was going great...and then suddenly Fiege did an abrupt u-turn and got rid of Norton for no reason whatsoever. (You can't use the cash thing because that would imply that Norton was asking for too much...and we can't put any blame on him.)

That's what we are believing here?

[the gael]

http://www.msj.edu/Blog/image.axd?picture=joaquin_phoenix_beard.jpg

Hello, Charles Manson... sorry, Bruce Banner !

[LightningFlash]

Stop jumping to conclusions about **** none of us know about.

I'm sorry you don't know about anything? Lol.

[LightningFlash]

So everything was going great...and then suddenly Fiege did an abrupt u-turn and got rid of Norton for no reason whatsoever. (You can't use the cash thing because that would imply that Norton was asking for too much...and we can't put any blame on him.)

That's what we are believing here?

Pretty much what we've heard so far.

For Terrence Howard, he didn't want a pay-cut.

But for Norton, he was going to be getting as promised, and even was planning on going to Comic-Con with the other guys(RDJ, Evans, Hemsworth), but Fiege pulls this up from his ass and now Norton's out. I bet Whedon didn't like him, lol.

[the gael]

Bruce Banner will become a joke character if they can't get one actor to maintain some stability with the role. I predict parodies of this.

Haven't you understood, Bruce Banner is the new Doctor Who. Every time he turn from Hulk to Banner, he regenerates...

[MelbourneGirl]

^ Evans will be there? I thought he was filming in London... maybe via telecast?

[LightningFlash]

The main cast was planning something special for Comic-Con.

Although, this might changed or just written off if they can't find a replacement quickly enough.

[MelbourneGirl]

I hope Scarlett is there... :D

[JeetKuneDo]

Pretty much what we've heard so far.

For Terrence Howard, he didn't want a pay-cut.

But for Norton, he was going to be getting as promised, and even was planning on going to Comic-Con with the other guys(RDJ, Evans, Hemsworth), but Fiege pulls this up from his ass and now Norton's out. I bet Whedon didn't like him, lol.

Something had to have happened. I don't buy "Fiege pulls it out of his a**". That makes no sense.

Norton would have have to give them a reason to can him. We all know his past. I'm sure he would love it if everyone believed all his problems on various movies in the past were always someone else's fault....but come on.

I know Whedon has a rep for being easy to get along with. If Norton and Whedon couldn't co-exist I know where my finger is pointing.

[LightningFlash]

And you can point your finger to Norton, but being a hard-head isn't a bad thing, imo. Norton's films are amazing, and so him getting things his way isn't a terrible thing just because he's a brilliant actor. Whedon, I'm not even a fan of, lol.

[sha1243]

Only thing im saying is just because Fiege is the president doesn't mean that he makes all of these decisions by himself they have to work as a team if one person wants somebody to be in but everybody eles doesn't or feel that actor would be to expensive or maybe wouldn't work well with others. So it a team decision on what to do and then he makes the announcements about those decisions. Now im not trying to defend him for the statement he made cause he was wrong until he gives a better explanation on why they suddenly change that minds about Norton. Other factors had to be in play for him not to put Norton in the movie especially sense he really wanted him the movie and everything else was working out find. So unless you know some info about this that Idk about I don't think fiege should be blame for everything.

[LightningFlash]

Nah....I'm going to blame Fiege.

[MelbourneGirl]

Well Feige shouldn't have made such snide comments, so he can be blamed and looked upon as unprofessional for those reasons. I think i've heard somewhere he's like a child and when things don't go his way, he gets pissy like a kid not getting the toy he wants in a toy store.

[Son of Coul]

Gotta say I've never heard nothing but good things about both Kevin Feige and Edward Norton. Part of what's so surprising to me.

[Nightwing]

^ Evans will be there? I thought he was filming in London... maybe via telecast?
Yeah, in the Cap news thread there's a report sayings Johnston, Evans and Weaving will talk via telecast. I know..cause I posted it. :awesome:

[sha1243]

Yes that i agree with melbournegirl there was no point to the comment that he made about Norton especially since he wanted him back in the first place.

[MelbourneGirl]

Yeah, in the Cap news thread there's a report sayings Johnston, Evans and Weaving will talk via telecast. I know..cause I posted it. :awesome:


Really? That would be awesome.

[Nightwing]

Really? That would be awesome.
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=300167&page=156

[Kirmit]

I fear losing Norton is going to affect the type of Hulk we get, in TIH, Norton wanted alot more depth to the character, as seen by the deleted scenes on the DVD. I have the feeling without Norton we're going to get a mindless Hulk who is only going to be used for the smashing. Come to think of it, maybe that was the reason for them dropping Norton, that he wanted more depth and Feige just wanted Hulk/Banner for the action.

[SpiderByte]

The only person I can think of that could replace Norton and not confuse the audience would be Sharto Copley.


http://www.a-team247.co.uk/sharlto-copley.jpg

Quick haircut and some more beard, and boom. That way it won't be obvious, like Two-Toned Rhodey.

[TomPiltoff]

The only person I can think of that could replace Norton and not confuse the audience would be Sharto Copley.

That way it won't be obvious, like Two-Toned Rhodey.

Racist.

[Son of Coul]

Cheadle's dark chocolate, Howard's definitely more mocha.

[MelbourneGirl]

Howard is caramel candy.

[SpiderByte]

It wasn't meant to be racist. They look totally different.

http://media.comicmix.com/media/2008/10/30/terrence-howard-300a011807.jpg

http://blogs.bet.com/entertainment/whattheflick/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/don_cheadle-1.jpg

[LightningFlash]

Yeah, in the Cap news thread there's a report sayings Johnston, Evans and Weaving will talk via telecast. I know..cause I posted it. :awesome:

Hrm...I wonder if RDJ will pop by then. Hemsworth is a given due to a Thor panel being there, but seeing as how the guy who'll be playing as Banner got the boot, I wonder if the plan is still a-go to have RDJ at the Con.

Cheadle's dark chocolate, Howard's definitely more mocha.

:hehe:

It wasn't meant to be racist. They look totally different.

http://media.comicmix.com/media/2008/10/30/terrence-howard-300a011807.jpg

http://blogs.bet.com/entertainment/whattheflick/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/don_cheadle-1.jpg

Howard looks bigger too, and that's probably what Fav wanted in the beginning, for someone to play War Machine who is bulkier.

[marvel_freshman]

Just in case you haven't seen it already....
The Avengers To Film in Manhattan with a SHIELD Helicarrier?
http://**************.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=20006

[marvel_freshman]

And Btw though this guy might be a horrible choice....Alan Ruck (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fanswers.yahoo.com%2Fquestion%2Fin dex%3Fqid%3D20091119124258AAUBqJm&ei=lgI9TMjkOJD69ATAp_j8DA&usg=AFQjCNGwxe6nE82cS83KtW8Fd7bdtxcsIA) looks just like Norton don't you think? He was the guy in SPEED.
http://colunistas.ig.com.br/ricardocalil/files/2009/08/alan.jpg

[LightningFlash]

He looks like an older Edward Norton.

Sure, if we ever get a film involving the Avenger's kids, ala that one stupid animated film, then I would vote for this guy to play the old Bruce Banner.

He was great in Spin City though, haha.

[Droogoonie789]

And Btw though this guy might be a horrible choice....Alan Ruck (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fanswers.yahoo.com%2Fquestion%2Fin dex%3Fqid%3D20091119124258AAUBqJm&ei=lgI9TMjkOJD69ATAp_j8DA&usg=AFQjCNGwxe6nE82cS83KtW8Fd7bdtxcsIA) looks just like Norton don't you think? He was the guy in SPEED.
http://colunistas.ig.com.br/ricardocalil/files/2009/08/alan.jpg

No, we're not taking the Ferrari, Ferris!!! I SAID WE'RE NOT TAKING THE FERAWR.... :bh:

[Brian Braddock]

They might look vaguely similiar, but they're poles apart as actors go.

[Dark Raven]

Couldn't Alan Ruck try to portray Ed Norton in the Avengers, then that way he could indirectly be playing Bruce Banner? He just has to watch loads of Ed Norton movies, since he already has the look. He could avoid the most disruption to the movie on a visual level.

[Gamma Goliath]

Too old.

[Majik1387]

Honestly, considering that Hulk is most likely just gonna be Hulk during the movie, I'd say don't bother recasting him unless they're really planning on using Banner in a movie anytime soon.

[Dark Raven]

They could de-age Ruck digitally and using make up, and just have him in a few scenes, since Banner wouldn't feature very much as the Hulk would be the main character. It's a cheaper way to keep a similar-looking actor and not have things look visually jarring than hiring a known name for what would be an extended cameo.

[Majik1387]

If they were to recast, I'd hope they'd find a better actor who's the right age, than them casting Ruck.

[SpiderByte]

Alan Ruck could be his identical twin, if he dyed his hair. The similarity is shocking.

[misjuevos]

glad to hear the helicarrier will be in it. here is the one from the 1998 david hasselhof moviehttp://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx239/thekraxen/helicarrierf.jpg

[Majik1387]

So has anyone heard of the Adrien Brody as Ant-Man rumors?
http://www.fusedfilm.com/2010/07/adrien-brody-could-be-ant-man-for-marvel-studios/

[marvelrobbins]

Without Edward Norotnas banner and the possabilty of Eva Longoria as Wasp I was looking forward to nathan Fillion as Henrey Pym/Ant-Man so I don't like it.Personally as fan of Joss whedon's works i am begining to wonder why he Is doing this.Marvel seems as Intrested In his Ideas and Input as Warner Brothers did with Wonder Woman.

[Rock Sexton]

So has anyone heard of the Adrien Brody as Ant-Man rumors?
http://www.fusedfilm.com/2010/07/adrien-brody-could-be-ant-man-for-marvel-studios/

So we are definitely getting the Loki control Hulk going crazy in NY and the Avengers have to take him down.

[Doctor Jones]

Gah, I want Brody as Banner.

If that plot is correct, than great.

[Gamma Goliath]

I hope the hulk isn't the films overall threat from Loki. I want to see hulk fight alongside the avengers.

[marvel_freshman]

I really don't want another solo Hulk movie now, unless they can keep Liv Tyler, William Hurt, Tim Blake Nelson, and of course Tim Roth. That cast was just to perfect.

I STILL CAN'T ****ING BELIEVE NORTON WON'T BE BACK!....IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT!

[Parker Wayne]

Me neither. I don't want another Hulk film for while. Another one so quickly is going to turn the series into a joke.

[Aesop Rocks]

Norton could be the Skrull version of The Hulk. :dry:

[Iceman]

I could see Brody as Ant man.

[Aesop Rocks]

I can't.

[Son of Coul]

I could definitely peg Brody as a scientist more than I could Nathan Fillion. Good actor, but that's just another fancast I really don't understand. I thought Will Smith looked out of place conducting experiments in a lab coat in I Am Legend, Fillion would be just as unnatural.

[Chewy]

Will Smith for Hank Pym?

[Doctor Jones]

I don't want Fillion in this. If he does, fanboys will win. I just get a kick out of people casting him in every single male role and it never happening.

[misjuevos]

i'd rather have alan tudyk

[Superhero 101]

I know this is a random question but since every hero has like a little tag line like how
Iron Man is the Armored Avenger
Thor is the Mighty Avenger
Captain America is the First Avenger
What is the Hulk?

[Dark Raven]

I know this is a random question but since every hero has like a little tag line like how
Iron Man is the Armored Avenger
Thor is the Mighty Avenger
Captain America is the First Avenger
What is the Hulk?

The Deserting Avenger.

[Cth]

Forgotten Avenger

[Chris B]

I'd be cool with Brody as Pym.

[Nirvana]

I like Adrian Brody, I can get down with that.

[Rocker22]

Joss Whedon just confirmed he is directing.

[JP]

:eek:
Talk about LEFT FEILD.

[Evil Twin]

Whedon also said he's still working on the outline.

Yeah, they still have about half a year, but they certainly are going to cut it close with the script and preproduction.

[Dark Raven]

Joss Whedon just confirmed he is directing.

Where did he do that? At SDCC?

[SpiderByte]

Really?

The fifteen earlier confirmations before made me think that he wouldn't.

[SpiderByte]

Will Smith for Hank Pym?


I got something worse.

Will Smith for Black Panther.

Or Chris Rock.

[Rocker22]

Really?

The fifteen earlier confirmations before made me think that he wouldn't.

Had Marvel confirmed it? Had he?

If so none other really matter.

[RealIrOnMaN]

* Whedon says the Avengers directing job is not an official thing from Marvel but he's making it official RIGHT NOW.

Whedon says this is a huge deal for him. His dad was the head writer for the Electric Company and came home with Spider-Man comics when he was nine. That's where his obsession started. He loved the Avengers annual with the Death of Warlock was one his favorites.

* Jensen is trying to get Avengers details from Whedon but he says he's still writing an outline. He thinks it's completely counterintuitive to have all those people in the same room but that's the definition of family.

* Whedon says making Avengers is really cool but he's watching a lot of stuff right now and had shear panic on occasion because he loves Abrams Star Trek so much.

[SpiderByte]

Had Marvel confirmed it? Had he?

If so none other really matter.

Hemsworth said he met with Whedon.

So yeah, it does matter.

[Rocker22]

Hemsworth said he met with Whedon.

So yeah, it does matter.

Wow big deal what if he met with another director.

[RealIrOnMaN]

* He (Joss Whedon) loves and reads comics so part of how he writes comes from that. He wants to be very respectful of the tone already established in the Avengers.

[SpiderByte]

Wow big deal what if he met with another director.

Erm....what?

He met with Whedon, so he didn't meet with another director...since he was meeting with WHEDON.

[Rocker22]

Let's say Hemsworth met with Faverau does that mean he directing?

[SpiderByte]

That's hypothetical, seeing as he met with Whedon, who was heavily rumored to be directing, and not Favreau.

Since he met with Whedon, who was the top candidate, listed by several people, it obviously means that Whedon was director. If he had met with anyone else, it would be debatable, but Whedon has been listed by several sources to be directing, hell, even before ComiCon. Why the hell would he show up?

It's been known for months.

[Figs]

I still have a bit of excitement for the Avengers film but now that it is in fact 100% official Whedon is directing, I hope the movie doesn't look or feel like a glorified TV movie/show.

[Spider-Vader]

Smith would make a good Luke Cage.... But he's too skinny.

[SpiderByte]

Smith could have done Prowler when he was a kid.

Although he only got the role in Karate Kid because of his dad, Jaden Smith seems to show a lot of potential for acting. In about 3 years, I can see him at a real celebrity status.

[R_Hythlodeus]

why are we talking about smith? lets talk about actors!

[Doctor Jones]

* Whedon says the Avengers directing job is not an official thing from Marvel but he's making it official RIGHT NOW.

Whedon says this is a huge deal for him. His dad was the head writer for the Electric Company and came home with Spider-Man comics when he was nine. That's where his obsession started. He loved the Avengers annual with the Death of Warlock was one his favorites.

* Jensen is trying to get Avengers details from Whedon but he says he's still writing an outline. He thinks it's completely counterintuitive to have all those people in the same room but that's the definition of family.

* Whedon says making Avengers is really cool but he's watching a lot of stuff right now and had shear panic on occasion because he loves Abrams Star Trek so much.

Dude, does that mean since he loves Abrams ST he's looking at that for inspiration? If so that's ****ing awesome. Spock and Kirk's relationship in that film should be like Stark and Rogers relationship. Man, I hope that's what he meant.

But great to hear Whedon is directing.

[Parker Wayne]

Dude, does that mean since he loves Abrams ST he's looking at that for inspiration? If so that's ****ing awesome. Spock and Kirk's relationship in that film should be like Stark and Rogers relationship. Man, I hope that's what he meant.

But great to hear Whedon is directing.

I love that he's looking to Star Trek too and considering that Whedon is a comic book fan and already can handle ensembles to near perfection, I'd say Whedon right now is a perfect choice.

He's gonna be fully concentrating on The Avengers, and will interact with all the other directors of other films, which makes me wish Norton was involved because he would've been much help to Whedon with Hulk and handling continuity from that film.

[Doctor Jones]

Norton gone = me very, very sad

[Son of Coul]

The thing that I love about [The Avengers story], the thing that made me excited to do it, is that it is so counterintuitive it is. It makes no sense. These people shouldn't even be in the same room let alone on the same team. And that to me, is the very definition of family.
This excites me. The part I'm most looking forward to in The Avengers is the Steve/Stark dynamic. They couldn't be more different and them butting heads will be amazing.

[Dog Brother #1]

Glad to see Whedon on this. Just hope that he doesn't drag Fillion into this and that Eva isn't the Wasp. I don't like either of them for the suggested roles. And at this point I'm over the Norton firing. Bring in Ruffalo and lets keep this train a-rollin'.

[SpiderByte]

Norton gone = me very, very sad
Don't worry. Knowing Leterrier, he isn't going to let Norton slip by. He helped out with script writing on TIH...so maybe he'll be able to get him for that.

If only. :csad:

[Gamma Goliath]

Everything is set, we just need banner. Preferably not Ruffalo though. I'd rather have Colin hanks.

[Figs]

So this movie should start shooting early next year right?

[Gamma Goliath]

I think It was planned for February.

[OptimusPrime114]

RUMOR: Edward Norton may still be the Hulk!

From **************.com:

Do not take this as definite, and this very well may be too good to be true. A close source that is part of helping with making Comic-Con 2010 has told me a rumor he has heard around the convention.

The source said: "There have been numerous talkings around here that Ed Norton may be appearing for The Avengers panel. Contrary to Kevin Feige's "confirmation" of Norton being out of the film, it looks like it was all to create buzz and controversy. I have heard some reasons why this is very likely true, 1) Marvel Studios did not put out a press release about Norton leaving The Avengers, and that no movie studio would openly e-mail some website confirming anything for a movie. Especially when that website reporting the news says it without Marvel Studios permission. 2) Marvel.com would have at least had something up about it, but no, nothing. 3) Even though it was reported that Mark Ruffalo would take over the role, and even his agent came out saying he was in some talks, likely we would have heard something since if talks were going anywhere."

The source went on to say that Marvel Studios would NOT recast one of the main actors. Marvel wanted to make use of all the rumors surrounding Norton/Marvel having issues and use it to stir up some buzz by "firing" Norton. It is an attempt to create some more interest in a possible "Incredible Hulk 2."

Could this be true? Hard to say, but we should know on the 24th (?) if Norton is in fact in the film and his being let go was all a hoax. Assuming this is true, Norton should be joining actors Robert Downey Jr., Chris Hemsworth, Scarlett Johansson, Samuel L. Jackson, and Chris Evans on stage to discuss The Avengers.

Also, I am very sorry for my lack of being able to post sources.

[marvelrobbins]

Oh Please.Let this be true.This would put my anticaptian up for The Avengers again.Joss
completly writing a new script(his comments suggest he Is completly throwing out Zach Penn's draft) and directing along with this news of Edward Norton returning would be great to hear.it Is strange when you think about It Kevin Feige would not confirm Joss as
Director but would respond to website who reported Norton would be replaced.We may all have been punked on Norton.

[Doctor Jones]

I'm not getting my hopes up. Although I will admit, my heart was given a sudden jolt when I read that.

I don't know. I ain't convinced yet until tomorrow. These chances are slim. And this is from **************. They aren't that reliable.

[Dark Raven]

Or maybe Marvel and Feige did fire Norton, but they came to some compromise behind the scenes, and now they're trying to retcon what happened and say it was all a hoax to generate publicity. Some of the comments were pretty damning of Norton by Feige, and damning of Feige by Norton's agent. Would they really allow themselves to jeopardize their reputations for a publicity stunt?

[Doctor Jones]

Yeah, see that's a good point. But maybe if it is a hoax, people will forget abuot what they said, it was all apart of an act.

I don't know, this still sounds like wishful thinking to me. I'm not convinced.

[marvelrobbins]

It's ************** so of course a grain fo salt needs to be taken.We will find out at the Marvel Panel tomorrow.We should cross our finders but not get hopes up too high.If not a hoax Feige comes off pretty badly,and Marvel Studios will lose some of the good will they have gained from both Iron Man Films and The Incredible Hulk.

[Son of Coul]

In the very back of my mind I do like to think it is all a hoax, but they'd have to really go the extra mile to have sources leak that they were in talks with Ruffalo and eyeing Phoenix.

[david icke]

Someone has been uploading the Whedon/Abrams Comic con panel onto youtube:

part one:

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part two:

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part three:

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the person said they have not uploaded the last three parts yet due to hotel wi-fi weirdness, third part only went up a couple of hours ago

[Brian Braddock]

Some people did joke about it all being a hoax at the time but Lord, please let it be true.

But then again, it most likely isnt. Like Doctor Jones, I'm not getting my hopes up.

[Doctor Jones]

And besides, the whole press release thing of Norton. Marvel didn't release a press release of Whedon directing the Avengers and we all know he in in fact directing. He said himself they could't afford it. Strike one against it.

[Dark Raven]

It's ************** so of course a grain fo salt needs to be taken.We will find out at the Marvel Panel tomorrow.We should cross our finders but not get hopes up too high.If not a hoax Feige comes off pretty badly,and Marvel Studios will lose some of the good will they have gained from both Iron Man Films and The Incredible Hulk.

Even if a hoax, Feige still comes off badly. Even for the sake of a hoax, he could've still be more professional and not bad mouthed Norton. It might be all purely make believe, but one wonders how he might act if such a thing were true (which it might very well be). Hoax or not, when you're in the public eye, you should conduct yourself in a professional way.

[Chewy]

Told by Joss Whedon that my bet for Mark Ruffalo as The Hulk shouldn't be changed! It's semi-official!http://twitter.com/slugfilmcritic/status/19318734605

[Doctor Jones]

Well, there you go.

[SpiderByte]

So, Nortons almost totally gone......:(

There is now a .000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance Feige is screwing with our heads.

[Nirvana]

I got a little excited, too.

[marvelrobbins]

All I have to say this Is a big let down from going to a 2 time Oscar nominee with Edward
Norton as Banner to mark Ruffalo who as banner.Not a good thing.And If Joss Whedon was casting one of his actors as banner I would say the same thing.I for one will totally Ignore comic book Move from now on Is this happens.

[Symbiotic]

I won't be one bit surprised if Feige and Marvel get hit with a crapload of booing over the Norton situation tomorrow at their panel.

[Doctor Jones]

They won't. They wouldn't dare. If they did than that would mean they're ungrateful brats. Out of all this, the fact we are actually getting an Avengers film is awesome. The most it would be is talk, but it would never happen.

[marvelrobbins]

Few people support Marvel on this.Plus It hurts the good will Marvel Studios have built with Comic Book fans.Plus by all reports Joss Whedon wanted Edward Norton as Banner
and Norton wanted to come back especilly after meeting with Whedon.This Is all bad PR
on Feige and Marvel.And few people are going to defend Feige after his comments about
Norton.

[Doctor Jones]

People will get over Norton by the time this film comes out. There will be so much excitement, the whole thing with Norton will be as little as just a disapointing memory. Hopefully Ruffalo does good. If he doesn't, Norton will be much more than a disapointing memory.

[Gamma Goliath]

Please no Ruffalo

[louiebling$]

RThe Avengers is Bigger than Norton... there won't be lot of Boo's prolly some but not the Entire Crowd... come on... its the ****ING Avengers

[Tony Stark]

I hope we aren't going to trash Ruffalo if this is true. Like I say outside of the late Bill Bixby, no one owns the Banner roll. Even Norton said the Hulk was bigger than any one person, so I welcome Ruffalo's interpretation.

[Majik1387]

I won't trash him, but it will be a huge downgrade if it turns out to be true.

[Chewy]

Negotiations continued fast and hard between agents for Mark Ruffalo and executives at Marvel, with the expectation on both sides that the actor would be confirmed to play "The Hulk" in upcoming Marvel movies, replacing Ed Norton, TheWrap has learned.

The aim, according to one knowledgeable individual, was to wrap up negotiations on Friday so Ruffalo could fly in from the east coast to join the cast of "The Avengers," the star-studded superhero ensemble movie that will be one of the crowning crowd-pleaser events at Comic-Con in San Diego.

Ruffalo has been rumored to be in the running for the role, which Norton fell out of recently (http://www.thewrap.com/node/19124) in a spat with Marvel that went public. Norton had been the choice of David Meisel, the CEO who left the company in December after it sold to Disney in 2009.

Ruffalo was instead the favored choice of Marvel production chief Kevin Feige and is also the favorite of director Joss Whedon, who confirmed to a crowd of Comic-Con fans on Thursday that he would be directing the blockbuster.

Ruffalo, a dark, unmuscular and sensitive actor currently on screens in the indie comedy "The Kids are Alright," could hardly be more different than the angular, intellectual Norton. Word was that Ruffalo would be expected to bulk up for the part of the rage-ridden Hulk.

"The Avengers" is a much-awaited action movie that wields a stunning collection of superheroes. Cast already are "Iron Man" Robert Downey Jr., Scarlett Johannssen, Samuel L. Jackson and Chris Evans. Those actors were expected in San Diego for the big announcement on Saturday night.

The sticking point in negotiations is related to payment and the number of films to which Ruffalo would commit. According to the knowledgeable individual, Marvel wants Ruffalo to sign on for between four and six Marvel movies. And Marvel is famous for squeezing talent on salaries, despite the huge success of "Iron Man."

Ruffalo's agent, Tracey Jacobs, did not return a call seeking comment. A Marvel representative did not immediately return calls or emails.

Feige and Norton got into a public spat over the actor falling out of a Hulk sequel. In an unusual move, Feige issued a statement saying that relations with Norton were the source of the dispute, rather than money.

Norton's agent responded that Norton had already indicated his interest in being part of Joss Whedon's ensemble cast, but abruptly learned that he was being cut out even as "good faith" salary negotiations were under way.

Norton has strong opinions as an actor and director, and a history of being a force in the cutting room, even on movies where he is not the director.
Feige said that the studio was seeking "an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members."
SOURCE (http://www.thewrap.com/movies/column-post/exclusive-ruffalo-hulk-deal-expected-tomorrow-comic-con-launch-19504)

[OptimusPrime114]

Oh, well!

Mark Ruffalo has my support.:yay:

[Son of Coul]

Damn, oh well. He'll probably do fine.

But "bulk up"? He's playing Banner, he's got to slim down if anything.

[Tony Stark]

OK this is what ticks me off, why does Ruffalo need to "bulk up" for the hulk? The beauty of the TV show in the 70's and really in the comics, is that Bruce Banner is a weakling, and the Hulk is his antithesis. Maybe Ruffalo could lose some weight, creating kind of a sickly weakling look, but one of the things that bothered me with Bana, was he looked all buff and athletic. Norton while in great physical shape is not buff by any stretch, but wiry and thin.

Anyway there's my 2 cents.

[marvelrobbins]

Well One good sign is Joss Whedonw ants him since he can't have Edward Norton.Still this Is a big stepdown.This also suggests marvel has palns for another Hulk film after the Avengers If they want Ruffalo for 4 to 6 films.I hope someone from the Incredible Hulk appears.Otherwise what has been the point of building up to The Avengers.Since Whedon Is working on outline this means we should disregard anything mentioned before except for knowing Cap,Iron Man,Thor,Hulk,Black Widow,and Fury will be appearing.I have more faith In Joss Whedon right now than I do In Feige.

[Tony Stark]

Damn, oh well. He'll probably do fine.

But "bulk up"? He's playing Banner, he's got to slim down if anything.

beat me to the punch ;), but hey great minds think alike.

[Majik1387]

Yea beat to the punch as well. My first thought was literally "Why would he bulk up for a cgi-Hulk?"

[louiebling$]

Is Ruffalo Italian?

[Hush]

Ruffalo=BLAH!

[Doctor Jones]

I know right? Ruffalo is already a big guy. Not bulky, but he fills out more than Norton.

If Ruffalo is cast he has my support. But I won't be as excited. I can't just wait until I see all those guys on the same stage tomorrow. It's still sad Norton won't be up there with them.

[DarthDaveBanner]

Meh. Bixby is still THE Banner to me.

[JP]

Meh. So much meh.

[Dark Raven]

Ruffalo needs to bulk up to play that Rough Fellow named the Hulk :woot:

[SpiderByte]

Your right. Time for soemthing to distract us from the meh.

Like...the epicness of Thor's helmet.


http://**************.com/images/users/uploads/10616/1279912242.jpg

[DarthDaveBanner]

Haha after all that worry about the helmet we get something that is absolutely perfect.

Well done, Branagh.

[Majik1387]

I'm loving all these quality pics of it though, I was getting a bit sad at the thought of all these Thor manips without a helmet.

[Doctor Jones]

Majik now you can rework Thor in your avvy with the real helmet.

[Son of Coul]

The quote about Whedon still outlining the movie makes me laugh, it sounds like he just threw Zak Penn's first draft out. :hehe:

[Pac-Master]

Thors helmet looks cool, and Ruffalo needs to do the exact OPPOSITE of bulking up.

Still ticked about Norton leaving.

[DarthDaveBanner]

The quote about Whedon still outlining the movie makes me laugh, it sounds like he just threw Zak Penn's first draft out. :hehe:

Pffft who wouldn't?

[sabetoonth]

Thors helmet looks cool, and Ruffalo needs to do the exact OPPOSITE of bulking up.

Still ticked about Norton leaving.
im more then ticked, and if Ruffalo doenst put forth a great performance, Feige will hear from me

[Doctor Jones]

I hope Ruffalo doesn't phone it in.

[Eddie Dean]

Ruffalo was one the best parts of Shutter Island and Zodiac, I'm really looking foward to him.

[Majik1387]

Majik now you can rework Thor in your avvy with the real helmet.
You know it.:yay:
Ruffalo was one the best parts of Shutter Island and Zodiac, I'm really looking foward to him.
That's not saying much

[Nightwing]

SOURCE (http://www.thewrap.com/movies/column-post/exclusive-ruffalo-hulk-deal-expected-tomorrow-comic-con-launch-19504)
**** youuuu FEEEEIIIIIIGE!!1 :cmad:

...I'd be willing to support Ruffalo.

[SpiderByte]

Decaprio was the best part of Shutter Island.

[Chewy]

Joss Whedon just said he wants Nathan Fillion for Ant-Man @ his panel

[JAK®]

The quote about Whedon still outlining the movie makes me laugh, it sounds like he just threw Zak Penn's first draft out. :hehe:It's a good thing, I'd take slightly annoying Buffy-speak over uninspired, boring screenplays any day.

[OptimusPrime114]

Good News! Nathan Fillion CONFIRMED as Ant-Man!

From BleedingCool.com:
Joss Whedon Names Nathan Fillion As Ant Man In The Avengers

So Joss Whedon has just named Nathan Fillion (Firefly, Buffy, Dr Horrible) as Ant Man in the Avengers movie.

I just sneaked into the Joss Whedon panel at Ballroom 20 at San Diego Comic Con 2010. I didn’t bring any vuvuzelas with me though. Unlike about twenty people here. Seriously.

Anyway, Joss Whedon has written a Serenity graphic novel, The Shepherd’s Book with his brother Zack Whedon coming out from Dark Horse later this year. It will concentrate on the character Shepherd Book, played by Ron Glass in the Firefly TV show and Serenity movie.

As for Cabin In The Woods? Yeah, still waiting on MGM to get sorted out for that. Joss joked as “never” – it’s still waiting. “Luckily it is timeless and brilliant and will never become irrelevant.”

And he’s still pursuing his Wastelanders webseries project with Warren Ellis…

[Tony Stark]

Joss Whedon just said he wants Nathan Fillion for Ant-Man @ his panel

Nice! And I'm hoping for Adam Baldwin for Wonder Man!

[Doctor Jones]

Joss Whedon just said he wants Nathan Fillion for Ant-Man @ his panel

****. I don't mind if he is a scientist, I still don't want to see Ant Man.

[Tony Stark]

I was thinking how Firefly like Avengers is when Wheadon made his comment about "there's no reason these guys should be on the same team, which makes for the perfect family."

I know we're all bummed about Norton, but I'm really excited that Wheadon is working on this. He got screwed with the Wonder Woman thing, but I think he's perfect for this. Having mostly worked in TV Wheadon is very familiar with working an ensemble which is exactly what this film needs.

As I said on Firefly/Serenity none of those characters would have anything to do with one another if they weren't forced to be together. That's very much how I see Avengers working.

[marvelrobbins]

Well that makes up for the trade of Norton to Ruffalo.Although truth be told I think Nathan Fillion would be better for hawkeye but If rumors are true Jeremy Renner Is playing him.And I think by Joss' comments we should expect to see Ant-Man and not just Henry Pym.Well Joss was meeting with edgar Wright for a reason.

[Chewy]

Maybe not. I'm looking for the direct quote and HitFix has it as this: (http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/2008-12-6-the-fien-print/posts/comic-con-live-blog-the-joss-whedon-experience)

"This is Ant-Man, because A) Nobody else can play the part and B) He doesn't appear in my film." He adds the kicker, "Want to talk about a consummate actor? It's actually Sean Maher."


If so, :dry: @ BleedingCool's "reporting"

[marvelrobbins]

Damn.Got excited for nothing.

[Tony Stark]

Maybe not. I'm looking for the direct quote and HitFix has it as this: (http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/2008-12-6-the-fien-print/posts/comic-con-live-blog-the-joss-whedon-experience)

"This is Ant-Man, because A) Nobody else can play the part and B) He doesn't appear in my film." He adds the kicker, "Want to talk about a consummate actor? It's actually Sean Maher."


If so, :dry: @ BleedingCool's "reporting"

Agree about BleedingCool, however, I think there's probably some legitimacy. There is a vested stake to have Ant Man/Giant Man in the movie. Marvel/Disney are trying to increase the value of their franchises, adding to the current Marvel movie stable it makes sense to try to get as many of these characters exposed, with possible movie tie-ins.

[Majik1387]

So wait, did Whedon say he 'wants' Fillion as Ant-Man, or that he has already cast Fillion as Ant-Man

[Mister Sinister]

Well he began the introduction with 'This is Ant-Man'

[Majik1387]

Yeah, I got that part, but from what he said before hand, he was asked if he had any favorite actors, and he said "Nathan Fillion" and continued on, mentioning Sean Maher as well.
http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=18577549&postcount=3420

[Son of Coul]

Maybe not. I'm looking for the direct quote and HitFix has it as this: (http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/2008-12-6-the-fien-print/posts/comic-con-live-blog-the-joss-whedon-experience)

"This is Ant-Man, because A) Nobody else can play the part and B) He doesn't appear in my film." He adds the kicker, "Want to talk about a consummate actor? It's actually Sean Maher."


If so, :dry: @ BleedingCool's "reporting"
Bwahaha, a few sites are reporting it now!

[TheDarkKnight08]

Thors helmet looks cool, and Ruffalo needs to do the exact OPPOSITE of bulking up.

Still ticked about Norton leaving.

He shouldn't bulk up, but he should at least get into a thinner frame. It's already bad enough they picked an actor who looks absolutely nothing like Bruce Banner, they could at least try to dress him up as so.

[Dr Lee]

i'm hearing from people i know who are attending SDCC that Fillion was confirmed as Ant Man....

[TheDarkKnight08]

i'm hearing from people i know who are attending SDCC that Fillion was confirmed as Ant Man....

Yeah, there are multiple sources who are saying the same thing. This is actually pretty exciting, seeing it all come together. :awesome:

[Dr Lee]

So it is definitely confirmed? looking back a couple of pages in here i just see confusion....

[Son of Coul]

Sounded like a gag to me.

[Majik1387]

I don't know if it was a gag, but from reading it sounds more like he's pushing for Fillion so that Marvel Studios will officially cast him.

[Chewy]

Back on July 14th, I scooped that Mark Ruffalo Is In Late-Stage Talks To Be Marvel's New Hulk in 'The Avengers' (http://www.deadline.com/2010/07/mark-ruffalo-in-late-stage-talks-to-be-marvels-new-hulk-in-the-avengers/). Now I've just learned the ink is drying on the deal reached by Brillstein Entertainment Partners with Marvel. (There's no official confirmation yet from Marvel whose reps aren't available for their usual "No comment".) So it looks like Marvel movie mastermind Kevin Feige may pull this off and bring Ruffalo along with other of The Avengers superheroes and director Joss Whedon to tomorrow night's panel at Comic-Con.SOURCE (http://www.deadline.com/2010/07/toldja-marvel-ruffalo-reach-hulk-deal/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

[Aesop Rocks]

yay, the Avengers is starting to look ******! :)

[Son of Coul]

There seems to be some confusion that Joss Whedon announced Nathan Fillion will be Ant-Man in The Avengers at a Comic-Con panel today.

While we couldn't attend, Marvel has confirmed to us that he was joking.

"Nathan Fillion is Ant-Man," he said, adding, "unfortunately Ant-Man isn’t really in the movie"

there ya go

[marvelrobbins]

Technically he will be Bruce Banner not the Hulk.Right now I am more Intrested In hearing about any other heroes,who the Villian or Villianess are and any other supporting characters from iron Man,Thor,The Incredible Hulk,and Captain America making appearance.I don't like Edward Norton being replaced.And rather Ruffalo Is good choice or not will depend on how he looks as banner In previews and final film.

[Whiskey Tango]

Gah! Ruffalo, how underwhelming. :dry:

[MoonKnight]

The thing I'm worried about, and meant to ask Kevin Fiege at SDCC '09, is the fact that since this movie is going to contain so many big personalities, how do they plan to balance the movie in such a way that no particular fan of one hero over another will feel cheated when their hero doesn't get the role in the story they deserve. (Heard script rumblings that the Hulk is kept in the background for most of the movie and when they use him, it's not to his fullest extent.)

[Chewy]

Unfortunately for Hulk fans, I'd say that's a good thing for the movie. This is the first Avengers movie, it needs to focus on THE Avengers. This should be a big three movie with all other characters in supporting roles of varying importance.

[SpiderByte]

http://**************.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=20497

JEREMY RENNER CONFIRMED AS HAWKEYE!!

:awesome:

[Whiskey Tango]

Dude was hardcore awesome in Hurt Locker, and I don't think that movie would have been anywhere near as well received without him.

Man, this is going to be great!

[Tony Stark]

Keep in mind guys if Pym/Hawkeye really are in the movie, they will be background characters, ala Happy Hogan.

[Blackman]

says who?

[Son of Coul]

With the acclaim and attention Renner's received, I doubt he'd have as little screentime as Happy Hogan (at least in the first Iron Man).

[Parker Wayne]

http://**************.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=20497

JEREMY RENNER CONFIRMED AS HAWKEYE!!

:awesome:

Yes! :yay:

[SpiderByte]

RUFFALO OFFICIALLY CAST AS BRUCE BANNER!

http://**************.com/fansites/StuartGreen/news/?a=20498

:) / :(

[Jake Cassidy]

Renner and Ruffalo are fantastic. The cast is ****in' awesome.

[Chewy]

Indeed it is. Hopefully they can all make it tomorrow. Imagine Joss Whedon, Robert Downey Jr, Chris Hemsworth, Chris Evans, Samuel L. Jackson, Scarlett Johansson, Jeremy Renner, and Mark Ruffalo all taking stage together :awesome:

[Majik1387]

Other than the Ruffalo casting, everything sounds amazing. Now let's hope for no Longoria

[Jake Cassidy]

Indeed it is. Hopefully they can all make it tomorrow. Imagine Joss Whedon, Robert Downey Jr, Chris Hemsworth, Chris Evans, Samuel L. Jackson, Scarlett Johansson, Jeremy Renner, and Mark Ruffalo all taking stage together :awesome:

That would be cool, but since i'm not going to be there, I don't really care. :woot:

[Docker2.0]

I'd rather they hire the chick from V. She looks mighty delicious.

[Chewy]

That would be cool, but since i'm not going to be there, I don't really care. :woot:
But you'll get to see it on YouTube :cwink:

[Aesop Rocks]

I'd rather they hire the chick from V. She looks mighty delicious.

lol no.

[Jake Cassidy]

But you'll get to see it on YouTube :cwink:

Oh yay. :csad:

As great as the cast is I think I can safely say that RDJ is going to own the whole bloody movie. :woot:

[Jake Cassidy]

I'd rather they hire the chick from V. She looks mighty delicious.

Morena Baccarin?

I wouldn't mind at all.

[Gamma Goliath]

I want an official confirmation from whedon about Ruffalo. Not one from cmb.

[Docker2.0]

Morena Baccarin?

I wouldn't mind at all.
Yeah that's her! There's not one part of her body I wouldn't eat! :oldrazz:
lol no.

Get the hell out of this thread! :argh:

[Chewy]

I want an official confirmation from whedon about Ruffalo. Not one from cmb.
It's from Nikki Finke, not **************

[Aesop Rocks]

get the hell out of this thread! :argh:

bro u maaaaaaad

[Majik1387]

I'm with Aesop

[hobo123]

RUMOR: Edward Norton Still In 'The Avengers', Mark Ruffalo Also Still In?

It has been a crazy couple of days for me, a couple days ago I received word from a source at Comic-Con 2010 that the Edward Norton/Marvel issues are all just a hoax for publicity reasons. Then today I find out on the internet Mark Ruffalohttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/#) is cast as Bruce Banner. So I pretty much decided that the 'source' from Comic-Con was BS. But, the same source has contacted me and said this.

"Do not beleive the Ruffalo rumors, it is spreading around some of us here at the Con that Edward Norton will still in fact be Bruce Banner and will appear tomorrow alongside the cast, while Mark Ruffalo is also in the film as a completely different character. Marvel has been doing there best to fake Ruffalo's character as Banner so it seems Norton has no chance as Banner. What role does Ruffalo have in the film? I cant say...".

This is really all insane, I am almost getting a massiven headache from all the twists and turns concerning Norton and Marvel. Could it be that both Mark Ruffalo and Edward Norton are joining the Joss Whedon directed "Avengers" film also starring Chris Evanshttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/#), Samuel L. Jackson, Robert Downey Jr., Jeremy Renner, Chris Hemsworth and Scarlett Johanssonhttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/#)? We will know tomorrow.

http://www.**************.com/fansites/Kaboom/news/?a=20501

[Blackman]

lol seems like someone is grasping at nothing

[Rock Sexton]

RUMOR: Edward Norton may still be the Hulk!

From **************.com:

OK this was me before I read that .....

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..... and me after .....

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[hobo123]

lol

[Rock Sexton]

http://twitter.com/slugfilmcritic/status/19318734605

OK nevermind .... back to .........

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[Aesop Rocks]

He's not back, you big sillys!

Having Edward Norton play Bruce Banner in The Avengers is just too good to be true. Like Jeremy Renner playing Hawkeye!

Oh, wait. :o

[Chewy]

RUMOR: Edward Norton Still In 'The Avengers', Mark Ruffalo Also Still In?

It has been a crazy couple of days for me, a couple days ago I received word from a source at Comic-Con 2010 that the Edward Norton/Marvel issues are all just a hoax for publicity reasons. Then today I find out on the internet Mark Ruffalohttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/#) is cast as Bruce Banner. So I pretty much decided that the 'source' from Comic-Con was BS. But, the same source has contacted me and said this.

"Do not beleive the Ruffalo rumors, it is spreading around some of us here at the Con that Edward Norton will still in fact be Bruce Banner and will appear tomorrow alongside the cast, while Mark Ruffalo is also in the film as a completely different character. Marvel has been doing there best to fake Ruffalo's character as Banner so it seems Norton has no chance as Banner. What role does Ruffalo have in the film? I cant say...".

This is really all insane, I am almost getting a massiven headache from all the twists and turns concerning Norton and Marvel. Could it be that both Mark Ruffalo and Edward Norton are joining the Joss Whedon directed "Avengers" film also starring Chris Evanshttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/#), Samuel L. Jackson, Robert Downey Jr., Jeremy Renner, Chris Hemsworth and Scarlett Johanssonhttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/#)? We will know tomorrow.

http://www.**************.com/fansites/Kaboom/news/?a=20501
Norton's playing Banner and Ruffalo's playing the Hulk. That's why The Wrap said Ruffalo needed to bulk up for the role

A great twist by Marvel

[Docker2.0]

Part of me REALLY thinks this is Marvel playing a game with fans and that Norton will be the Hulk. For them to announce Ruffalo or whatever the f his name is a day before the CC makes no sense. No saying it's true but I'm 90% sure Norton will be back as Bruce. If I'm wrong, then Jake Cassidy will be banned from SHH for 4 months. :up:

[Aesop Rocks]

Ruffalo is a decent actor, no lie. But he's literally just not Banner.

[Majik1387]

Norton's playing Banner and Ruffalo's playing the Hulk. That's why The Wrap said Ruffalo needed to bulk up for the role

A great twist by Marvel
I seriously thought if true, would it be split personalities Hulk? :oldrazz:

[Rock Sexton]

Norton's playing Banner and Ruffalo's playing the Hulk. That's why The Wrap said Ruffalo needed to bulk up for the role

A great twist by Marvel

Well with the stupidity of the original news of not bringing Norton back, I wouldn't put it past them to conjure up something so utterly ridiculous. :whatever:

[Rock Sexton]

Part of me REALLY thinks this is Marvel playing a game with fans and that Norton will be the Hulk. For them to announce Ruffalo or whatever the f his name is a day before the CC makes no sense. No saying it's true but I'm 90% sure Norton will be back as Bruce. If I'm wrong, then Jake Cassidy will be banned from SHH for 4 months. :up:

I watched TIH last night for like 1,000th time and I'm dying to see him continue on from that scene at the end where he's clearly got some devious in store.

[Son of Coul]

RUMOR: Edward Norton Still In 'The Avengers', Mark Ruffalo Also Still In?

It has been a crazy couple of days for me, a couple days ago I received word from a source at Comic-Con 2010 that the Edward Norton/Marvel issues are all just a hoax for publicity reasons. Then today I find out on the internet Mark Ruffalohttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/#) is cast as Bruce Banner. So I pretty much decided that the 'source' from Comic-Con was BS. But, the same source has contacted me and said this.

"Do not beleive the Ruffalo rumors, it is spreading around some of us here at the Con that Edward Norton will still in fact be Bruce Banner and will appear tomorrow alongside the cast, while Mark Ruffalo is also in the film as a completely different character. Marvel has been doing there best to fake Ruffalo's character as Banner so it seems Norton has no chance as Banner. What role does Ruffalo have in the film? I cant say...".

This is really all insane, I am almost getting a massiven headache from all the twists and turns concerning Norton and Marvel. Could it be that both Mark Ruffalo and Edward Norton are joining the Joss Whedon directed "Avengers" film also starring Chris Evanshttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/#), Samuel L. Jackson, Robert Downey Jr., Jeremy Renner, Chris Hemsworth and Scarlett Johanssonhttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/#)? We will know tomorrow.

http://www.**************.com/fansites/Kaboom/news/?a=20501
Sounds like someone's just having a fun time ****ing with the guy :hehe:

I pray that it's the case but I won't get my hopes up at all.

[al35077]

I really hope it's true. i really hate it when actors get changed and you're supposed to pretend its the same person

[Rock Sexton]

I really hope it's true. i really hate it when actors get changed and you're supposed to pretend its the same person

It renders the TIH film nearly worthless. For a lead character like that, you swap him out it's like replacing your g/f or your wife with some ugly stand-in. There's no ignoring the "sore thumb" factor.

[Figs]

I'll believe it if it actually happens at SDCC. Is the Marvel/Avengers stuff Saturday?

[Aesop Rocks]

Tomorrow, yep. :)

[Whiskey Tango]

Norton's playing Banner and Ruffalo's playing the Hulk. That's why The Wrap said Ruffalo needed to bulk up for the role

A great twist by Marvel

What a twist!
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[Cartoonics]

I'm assuming that Norton is officially out until I hear an official announcement to the contrary from Marvel. And they could do a hell of a lot worse than Ruffalo for a replacement.

But maybe . . . just maybe . . . Norton is still in and Ruffalo is Ant Man? If Norton leaving was a stunt, then maybe Whedon's "Ant Man isn't in the movie" is also misdirection?

I could see Ruffalo as Pym. And it would point to (IMHO) the perfect team roster--the original (Avengers #1) team plus Cap, Hawkeye, and Black Widow, with bonus Nick Fury.

[Parker Wayne]

Norton's playing Banner and Ruffalo's playing the Hulk. That's why The Wrap said Ruffalo needed to bulk up for the role

A great twist by Marvel

This is gonna be some hell of a saturday.

[IBRAH08]

Wait, they aren't gunna, like, CGI the Hulk? How bulky do they think he can get?

[Aesop Rocks]

If they don't CGI the hulk, it'll ruin the movie.

[Gamma Goliath]

Don't think Ruffalo will literally play hulk, just banner. I'm gonna just accept the fact that Norton is gone and has been replaced by Ruffalo. :/

[Aesop Rocks]

I refuse!

[Gamma Goliath]

nortons gone, although I hate to admit it. :'(

[the gael]

yes, and it's not good :(

[Jake Cassidy]

Part of me REALLY thinks this is Marvel playing a game with fans and that Norton will be the Hulk. For them to announce Ruffalo or whatever the f his name is a day before the CC makes no sense. No saying it's true but I'm 90% sure Norton will be back as Bruce. If I'm wrong, then Jake Cassidy will be banned from SHH for 4 months. :up:

What the ****? :huh:

[sabetoonth]

i assume its jsut a joke dude


this news sadlt gets my hopes despite the reality of the situation

[Nirvana]

I'm happy that Renner was confirmed. If the Norton thing is a publicity, that would be amazing. If not and Ruffalo gets it, although I'd be disappointed with Norton not returning, Ruffalo is definitely a solid choice. I guess we'll find out tomorrow?

[Jake Cassidy]

i assume its jsut a joke dude




I know. What I don't know is why he's targeting me.

He must be jealous. That's the only thing that'd make sense. :woot:

[Doctor Jones]

Today hopefully, should prove that this will be one of the most memorable days for comic book fans. Man, I really hope all the cast memebers from the Avengers turns out to be there. If there's a group photo of them, it's gonna be my desktop background.

And aren't the DC Entertainment announcement today as well? If so, then Jesus. If today proves to be as memorable as we hope, the hype will probably crash.

[Son of Coul]

Haha @ people reading way too much into Whedon's remarks at comic-con on other sites.

"Since he said ANT-MAN is not in it, he obviously means PYM or GIANT-MAN is the one being played by Fillion!"

"No way am I believing that Renner is Hawkeye, he was kidding about Fillion, he's probably kidding about Renner too!"

"Maybe he just said he was kidding about Fillion to throw us off the scent for when they bring him on stage tomorrow!"

"NO NO, he said Ant-Man's not in HIS movie, so they cast Fillion in Ant-Man, but not The Avengers!"

As for today, I really am excited for Marvel's panel in general, but not as much for all the Avengers on stage. It'll be cool, but I'm really still not over Norton leaving yet. Their awesome initial plan to bring him back through it tainted it a little for me.

[Brian Braddock]

You know, the more I think about it, if it turns out that it was a hoax to garner interest in Hulk 2 and the Avengers, I'll obviously be overjoyed that Norton's reprising the role and becoming part of such a stellar cast and all but I cant shake the viewpoint that it's a really cheap trick on Marvel's behalf.

[Son of Coul]

I think it'd be funny as hell, playing up the press about TIH like that. Especially after all the Feige-bashing, it'd turn out he was actually a genius.

[Brian Braddock]

I watched TIH last night for like 1,000th time and I'm dying to see him continue on from that scene at the end where he's clearly got some devious in store.

Amen brother. Norton - Banner = perfect fit.

:up:

[Whiskey Tango]

Incredible Hulk is criminally underrated imo. I love Iron Man but I think it gets an unfair share of the praise when you consider both movies.

[Doctor Jones]

Amen brother. Norton - Banner = perfect fit.

:up:

Norton - Banner? Don't you mean Norton + Banner? :woot:

If this is all a hoax (I very much doubt it at this point, I mean Ruffalo is pretty much confirmed from reliable sources, I doubt Marvel would do all of this for a hoax) than can you imagine the audience? The roof will blow off.

If you saw The Walking dead panel, when the announced the composer, you could hear one guy go, "WHAT!!!!" It will be that amplified times a thousand.

[Doctor Jones]

Incredible Hulk is criminally underrated imo. I love Iron Man but I think it gets an unfair share of the praise when you consider both movies.

Both Hulk films are great for what they initially wanted to accomplish.

[SpiderByte]

http://**************.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=20508

JOSS WHEDON DENIES ANT-MAN IN AVENGERS!

Although he does say the Nathan Fillion rumor would have been awesome if it were true.

[SpiderByte]

Wow, I get three scoops in a row. :)

Must be my natural luck kicking in.