The Avengers: News and Speculation

[RealIrOnMaN]

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[Whiskey Tango]

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marvel. Our cinematic universe. Our tony stark. His girls!

lol!

[Son of Coul]

Well hell the whole cast is there.
Yeah I've seen RDJ, Chris Hemsworth, Chris Evans, Mark Ruffalo, Jeremy Renner and Scarlett Johansson since it started.

[RealIrOnMaN]

Yeah I've seen RDJ, Chris Hemsworth, Chris Evans, Mark Ruffalo, Jeremy Renner and Scarlett Johansson since it started.
No SLJ, though.

[WildcatNC]

lol!

:woot:

Starks got to much game for Parker.

[Rock Sexton]

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Hemsworth towers of Evans ... my God ....

[Rock Sexton]

Dunno if anyone has seen this .... but Hemsworth openly talks about how Cap, Iron Man, Thor, and The Hulk come together to form a team ... obviously nothing groundbreaking but at least he mentions the Hulk in the team. I couldn't make out the part where he says either they meet each other up or "beat" each other up .....

3maTi0DemG0

[Sebastos]

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Marvel. Our Cinematic Universe. Our Tony Stark. His girls!

:awesome:

[Spidey_62]

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marvel. Our cinematic universe. Our tony stark. His girls!
LOL at that gif.

[Whiskey Tango]

**** it, if RDJ gave me the suggestive double eyebrow I'd prolly go for it myself.

And you would too.

[Bren]

Hemsworth towers of Evans ... my God ....

Bodes well for the Avengers - Can't wait to see them all meeting for the first time. There MUST be a comment from Stark like, "well, mine's an advanced exoskeletal armoured suit, what the hell are YOU wearing?"

Of course, I'd prefer the meeting to be extremely serious, momentous and awe-inspriring. But you just know that RDJ's Tony would make some comment :woot:

[WildcatNC]

Dunno if anyone has seen this .... but Hemsworth openly talks about how Cap, Iron Man, Thor, and The Hulk come together to form a team ... obviously nothing groundbreaking but at least he mentions the Hulk in the team. I couldn't make out the part where he says either they meet each other up or "beat" each other up .....

3maTi0DemG0


He definitely said "beat" each other up.

Wonder if thats a hint at the Hulk/Avenger origin?

Or they could just got at it a lot at first.

[Whiskey Tango]

Or he's comic savvy enough to know what always happens when superheroes meet for the first time. :)

[Brian Braddock]

They normally talk things out over a cup of coffee, dont they?

[Brian Braddock]

EDIT: dp

[Iron_Stark]

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Spidey is gonna be pissed.

[Doctor Jones]

Tony can have any woman he wants. The man can cross over to DC and tap all the chicks there and them come back to Marvel for seconds.

[RealIrOnMaN]

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Robert Downey Jr – told fans have something to look forward to when they assemble for the upcoming “The Avengers.”

“I think we’re going to do something extraordinary,” the actor told when asked about “The Avengers.”

Robert explained that he’s met with his co-stars, Chris Hemsworth (Thor) and Chris Evans (Captain America) — who both presented together on Sunday night — and they plan on making a stellar movie that the fans have been longing to see.

“If we work really hard, I think we’ll have something worth it,” he continued.

* Also Robert said, that he'll buff up for the Avengers & that he'll get back to his Tony Stark hairstyle, once he wraps with Sherlock Holmes 2)

[Brian Braddock]

Love the hot-rod red IM tie.

[Antonello Blueberry]

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[WillardNation]

EDIT: dp

I don't think the DP talk is really appropriate, Brian.

:hehe:

[Crimson King]

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oooooooooooh

(supposed to be in caps. also supposed to be hemsworth singing)

[Brian Braddock]

I don't think the DP talk is really appropriate, Brian.

:hehe:

Oooops - forgot this was a family thread. My apologies. :oldrazz:

[SuperSAINT]

I'm assuming MTV will have some Avenger-centric red carpet interviews up soon...

[Brian Braddock]

''Like OMG - who are you dating right now?!!!!''

[RealIrOnMaN]

I'm assuming MTV will have some Avenger-centric red carpet interviews up soon...
Could be.

[Aztec]

Any word on the start date? Is it in February, March, or April?

[marcvader]

I think April.

[Crimson King]

I can't wait to get our first spy shots of filming. That will finally cement the idea of an Avengers movie becoming a reality, because it still kind of has that pie-in-the-skyness feel for me. I suppose that's since it's never been done before and I've been dreaming of seeing it become real forever.

[Rock Sexton]

Have they mentioned what the expected run time is going to be?

[JAK®]

Have they mentioned what the expected run time is going to be?
You mean the run time of the film that hasn't been filmed yet?

[Crimson King]

You mean the run time of the film that hasn't been filmed yet?

True, but you can estimate based on the script.

[Blackman]

I know what you mean kingmatte, but runtime is usually announced much later. Alot of times after the trailer is released

[Crimson King]

I know what you mean kingmatte, but runtime is usually announced much later. Alot of times after the trailer is released

Agreed, but I think Rock was asking for an estimate. What we get later (closer to release) is an actual runtime. Either way, I think it's probably too early. My guess is that they're still finalizing the script.

[NickNitro]

@ JAK

I dont mean to be rude but everytime I scroll and see a post from you its some half witty pompus remark on someone elses comments/questions. It may just be me but theres enough of that around the Internet as it is.

He was clearly just asking a simple question I dont think we need comments like your "You mean the run time of the film that hasn't been filmed yet?" he obviously knows it isnt filmed yet but was just asking for a general assumption.

Anyway I hope The Avengers pushes the 230 hour mark. I think it has enough beef in it with just the sheer amount of characters their conflicts/overall story conflicts/reintroducing characters etc. that I could see it again being around the 230 hour mark.

[Rock Sexton]

Agreed, but I think Rock was asking for an estimate. What we get later (closer to release) is an actual runtime. Either way, I think it's probably too early. My guess is that they're still finalizing the script.

I just assumed people would understand I was asking for a possible estimate.

[BigThor]

Anyway I hope The Avengers pushes the 230 hour mark. I think it has enough beef in it with just the sheer amount of characters their conflicts/overall story conflicts/reintroducing characters etc. that I could see it again being around the 230 hour mark.

Yeah it should be no less than 2hrs & 30 mins, but at the most it should be 2hrs & 45mins

[Blackman]

Rock I understood what you were staying but even an estimate is too much at this point

[terry78]

@ JAK

I dont mean to be rude but everytime I scroll and see a post from you its some half witty pompus remark on someone elses comments/questions. It may just be me but theres enough of that around the Internet as it is.

He was clearly just asking a simple question I dont think we need comments like your "You mean the run time of the film that hasn't been filmed yet?" he obviously knows it isnt filmed yet but was just asking for a general assumption.

Anyway I hope The Avengers pushes the 230 hour mark. I think it has enough beef in it with just the sheer amount of characters their conflicts/overall story conflicts/reintroducing characters etc. that I could see it again being around the 230 hour mark.

He's british, you get used to it. :awesome:

[Doctor Jones]

Once we see RDJ return to his Stark hairstyle, it's time to get this **** hyped.

My man crush on RDJ seriously went up after the Globes last night. Just when I thought it wasn't any more extreme.

[Chewy]

Anyway I hope The Avengers pushes the 230 hour mark.
That may be a bit much

[Iron_Stark]

Once we see RDJ return to his Stark hairstyle, it's time to get this **** hyped.

My man crush on RDJ seriously went up after the Globes last night. Just when I thought it wasn't any more extreme.

:up: Even though I didn't see the Globes last night, there's no doubt in my mind RDJ was the best part of the show. Well him and Sophia Vergara's Golden Globes. :cwink:

Come April **** will get hyped.

[marcvader]

Hey Rock, I would expect 2 hours minimum 2 1/2 max. There you go.

[flickchick85]

:up: Even though I didn't see the Globes last night, there's no doubt in my mind RDJ was the best part of the show.
Did you see his part yet? For anyone who hasn't, it's on YouTube now:

wotFIIVrzAs

[marcvader]

He was awesome as usual.

[SuperSAINT]

Has this been posted?

"Avengers script is mind blowing"

http://**************.com/fansites/GulfCoastAvengers/news/?a=28195

[Crimson King]

I like hearing that it's so epic, he has no idea how they're going to shoot it.

[Iron_Stark]

Did you see his part yet? For anyone who hasn't, it's on YouTube now:

wotFIIVrzAs

haha that was awesome.

thanks for posting it. :cwink:

[BigThor]

Once again, I would love for Kang The Conqueror to be the main villain for The Avengers. He's intelligent, powerful, & he has an entire space fleet at his disposal, which can set up some major action.

The Hulk vs Avengers fight would still be in there with Loki pulling strings, but Kang would be epic as the main villain.

[bored]

While I would cry tears of joy for a month if Kang were the villain, I don't see that as happening. YET. Let that be the plot for a sequel. Kang's really got to be the ultimate "stakes are raised" opponent.

[marcvader]

Do any of you guys think we'll be getting images or footage for SDCC? I surely hope so. We're only 7 months away.

[roach]

If I was doing these:

Avengers 1: Formation of the team and battling invasion but not of the Skrulls...of the Space Phantoms...you know the guys who can impersonate anyone and the reason Hulk quit.
Avengers 2: Masters of Evil
Avengers 3: Ultron or Kang

[roach]

Do any of you guys think we'll be getting images or footage for SDCC? I surely hope so. We're only 7 months away.

I dont think so...when do they start filming

[marcvader]

April I think

[Chewy]

Do any of you guys think we'll be getting images or footage for SDCC? I surely hope so. We're only 7 months away.
I would be shocked if there is no footage. They brought footage for a movie that they had been shooting for 6 days

[BigThor]

While I would cry tears of joy for a month if Kang were the villain, I don't see that as happening. YET. Let that be the plot for a sequel. Kang's really got to be the ultimate "stakes are raised" opponent.

But isn't the ultimate "stakes are raised" opponent what the Avengers movie is all about?

I see what you're saying about Kang, but I just don't think the Skrulls will do. After the Avengers fight through the Skrull's invasion it'll be over, but after fight Kang's they will still have a "climactic" opponent.

[Chewy]

Not if they use someone like Paibok (I think Super-Skrull is owned by Fox)

[bored]

I'm confused. What will be over after the team fights Skrulls (or whoever the threat for the movie ends up as)? The movie? Yes, that is generally what happens in a story after the antagonist is defeated. Maybe there's some denoument, but that's it.

I'm looking at this as if there will be sequels to "The Avengers", and not just in the form of more solo movies for members. An alien invasion strikes me as a great reason to get a be-all-end-all super group together like this. And Kang as a later threat is even bigger. He's a warlord from far in the future with all kinds of advanced weaponry and a galaxy's worth of soldiers at his disposal, and when he needs to regroup, he can literally just jump back into the future (or, if he isn't up for a long commute, outer space). Check out how "Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes" is currently handling him for a good example of what a threat he can be.

[BigThor]

Not if they use someone like Paibok (I think Super-Skrull is owned by Fox)

Nah, Paibok isn't even as powerful as some of the individual members of the Avengers

Hulk > Paibok
Thor > Paibok
Iron Man could possibly tie with Paibok

[Brian Braddock]

Nothing to say that Paibok couldnt be augmented to Super-Skrull level just for the sake of the movie; makes sense considering that he'd only be there by proxy given that, as Chewy says, Super-Skrull is owned by Fox.

For all intents and purposes - he would essentially be Super-Skrull without pissing Fox off.

[NickNitro]

I love Hemsworth saying its awesome and huge. Thats better than I guess a little better than just promoting the film. We all know these actors will always say the new film their in is amazing and spectacular and what have you, but to say you dont know how its going to be filmed is awesome.

Maybe then this does confirm a huge worldy Invasion!? Some epic GALACTIC BATTLE that will make us nerds poop ourselves :D

[Brian Braddock]

Galactic Space Battle - was thinking the same thing.

Imagine seeing Thor and Iron Man laying the smack down to starships in space, with Cap and others in a specially adapted for space travel Quinjet.

[Vartha]

Not if they use someone like Paibok (I think Super-Skrull is owned by Fox)
I'm not sure about that Chewy. I don't remember hearing anything about the Skrulls with the Fox/FF films.

[wobbly]

I'm not sure about that Chewy. I don't remember hearing anything about the Skrulls with the Fox/FF films.

Fox also pretty much did the Super Skrull in the last FF movie anyway :cwink:

[Brian Braddock]

Can't argue with that tbh.

[Crimson King]

I'm not sure about that Chewy. I don't remember hearing anything about the Skrulls with the Fox/FF films.

I'm fairly certain that Fox owns Super Skrull, just not the rest of the Skrulls. Feige said it at SDCC, if I remember correctly.

[Brian Braddock]

Somethings just occurred to me (probably been covered already but if it has been I missed it) - is the Vision going to feature in this movie?

[lixdexia]

Somethings just occurred to me (probably been covered already but if it has been I missed it) - is the Vision going to feature in this movie?
it hasn't been discussed at all, but no. no pym means no ultron, no ultron means no vision

[Rock Sexton]

I was reading an article in which Favreau mentioned that IM3 is a direct sequel to the events of Thor, Cap, and The Avengers. It got me to thinking. How do they go back to establishing these guys in their own films? Obviously Thor will most likely find his way back home, but Captain America will still be around.

How do they explain the fact that none of these other guys will be around when a villain takes on Iron Man?

[Majik1387]

Because he'll probably be busy with villains of his own. Not a hard to accept. :huh:

[LuisTX85]

How do they explain the fact that none of these other guys will be around when a villain takes on Iron Man?

Fury could make a cameo!,Explaining that Thor went home and is expected to be back But it's unsure when and Cap is busy&away doing some missions for S.H.E.I.L.D.with Black Widow&HawkEye.....

That could be great stories for spin-off comic books!,Plus a set-up of sorts for Avengers 2/Cap2/Thor2.

[lixdexia]

indeed, that works well enough in the comics.

[lixdexia]

indeed, that works well enough in the comics.

[herolee10]

If I was doing these:

Avengers 1: Formation of the team and battling invasion but not of the Skrulls...of the Space Phantoms...you know the guys who can impersonate anyone and the reason Hulk quit.
Avengers 2: Masters of Evil
Avengers 3: Ultron or Kang


Speaking of sequels, is anyone else curious as to how the sequels for each of the main avengers will be affected? I mean will the producers and writers have to add parts to the story that are yet again pieces of another larger puzzle (Avengers 2)?

And I wonder how they'll explain as to why when things are getting tough for each of the members in their own stories, that they don't just call for assistance from their teammates?

[BigThor]

Nothing to say that Paibok couldnt be augmented to Super-Skrull level just for the sake of the movie; makes sense considering that he'd only be there by proxy given that, as Chewy says, Super-Skrull is owned by Fox.

For all intents and purposes - he would essentially be Super-Skrull without pissing Fox off.

Once again

Thor > Super Skrull
Hulk > Super Skrull
Iron Man is near Super Skrull level

[steintym]

Speaking of sequels, is anyone else curious as to how the sequels for each of the main avengers will be affected? I mean will the producers and writers have to add parts to the story that are yet again pieces of another larger puzzle (Avengers 2)?

And I wonder how they'll explain as to why when things are getting tough for each of the members in their own stories, that they don't just call for assistance from their teammates?

I don't necessarily think that will be a huge problem. They handle (ignore) that issue all of the time in the individual comics.

To be honest, there's a good chance the individual movies will just ignore the fact that these guys have teammates that they could call upon. Or the old "This is my problem, I'll hanlde it" storyline.

[herolee10]

I don't necessarily think that will be a huge problem. They handle (ignore) that issue all of the time in the individual comics.

To be honest, there's a good chance the individual movies will just ignore the fact that these guys have teammates that they could call upon. Or the old "This is my problem, I'll hanlde it" storyline.


Good points; In any case, Chris's recent interview at the globes I believe somewhat made me feel a little bit hopeful that they may have the Avengers facing off someone else other than Loki and a Controlled Hulk, given that Hulk was mentioned as becoming a member with them.


I honestly wonder though if they'll bring up the connection that the 4 main teammates have with each other.

I mean Tony's dad worked with Steve Rogers (A Super soldier where the means of his creation was one of the reasons that led to the birth of the Hulk in Bruce Banner) who fought against the Red Skull who had desired to use Odin's Cosmic Cube against Humanity

[Brian Braddock]

it hasn't been discussed at all, but no. no pym means no ultron, no ultron means no vision

Once again

Thor > Super Skrull
Hulk > Super Skrull
Iron Man is near Super Skrull level

That's the comics - this is the movies.

Nothing to say they wouldnt augment Super-Skrulls powers to higher levels to make him a viable movie villain and so, if they are used Paibok by proxy because they couldnt use Super-Skrull, they could do the same to him.

[BigThor]

That's the comics - this is the movies.

Nothing to say they wouldnt augment Super-Skrulls powers to higher levels to make him a viable movie villain and so, if they are used Paibok by proxy because they couldnt use Super-Skrull, they could do the same to him.

Your right they could do that but I'd still rather them use Kang since he really is an actual threat that takes all the Avengers to defeat

Why make someone more powerful when you have someone powerful enough already?

[bored]

I know I've mentioned this before, but I don't think they'll use Kang right off the bat. That's the kind of thing you build up for (even more than they have with this budding franchise, which is saying a lot).

[marcvader]

Whoever the villain or villains will be, I hope they leave it open ended. I hate when everything gets neatly tied up at the end or worse, the villain dies.

[Son of Coul]

Just out of curiosity, would anyone else think it'd be super awesome to have Uatu appear in The Avengers 2? I think it'd be too much for the first, since SHIELD is what unites them in there for a specific purpose, but the having it in the second would up the scale and make a great spectacle methinks.

[batnkevlar]

Uatu is pure Fantastic Four material. I wouldnt want him appearing in the Avengers...

[Son of Coul]

Yeah, that's certainly the reason not to. But if by that time it's not looking like FF rights are getting returned and Marvel holds Uatu I definitely wouldn't be opposed since he's helped out other characters over the years.

[Spider-Vader]

I highly doubt Fox is planning to keep the FF rights, if they have we'd hear something about a new movie. Fox seems to be willing to keep the X-Men rights though, as they keep s****ing out movies.

[wobbly]

Hard to say with Fox. I think the deadline to get an FF film in the theatres is 2012 (that's based on what I've read on it but there doesn't seem to be any concrete info on the deal).
Presumably they would want a summer release but they may have the whole year to play with. Even so you look at that and think there's not enough time....But iirc FF1 took less than a year from the beginning of shooting to it's premier, with all the casting done in the last month or so before shooting began. If they followed the same method there's no reason Fox couldn't rush another one out.

Having said that though there's still all the preparation work prior to shooting, like sorting out a director, crews, etc, and not least among that is the script: as we have heard nothing about any development there Fox may (hopefully) be letting the FF go back to Marvel after all. Time will tell one or another (I figure if Fox are going ahead with their reboot plans they will announce something confirming that in the next few months).

[BigThor]

I know I've mentioned this before, but I don't think they'll use Kang right off the bat. That's the kind of thing you build up for (even more than they have with this budding franchise, which is saying a lot).

I'm gonna have to disagree I think they've done enough building up for Kang, it's not like he's Thanos.

[Wolvieboy17]

I'm gonna have to disagree I think they've done enough building up for Kang, it's not like he's Thanos.

What building exactly have they done? Not only is Kang a solely Cosmic character who's origins revolve around time travel or past and future events, but also he's tied strongly to Dr Doom.

I would think that considering Thor is the closest thing to the Marvel Cosmic universe, and we aren't even sure whether they're playing that down or not, not to mention Kangs origins being tied up with other franchises not owned by Marvel at the moment, it would be a little difficult.

With the current settings for all these characters, I think there needs to be a much more significant build up before they are battling cosmic time travelling conquerers...

[lixdexia]

What building exactly have they done? Not only is Kang a solely Cosmic character who's origins revolve around time travel or past and future events, but also he's tied strongly to Dr Doom.

I would think that considering Thor is the closest thing to the Marvel Cosmic universe, and we aren't even sure whether they're playing that down or not, not to mention Kangs origins being tied up with other franchises not owned by Marvel at the moment, it would be a little difficult.

With the current settings for all these characters, I think there needs to be a much more significant build up before they are battling cosmic time travelling conquerers...i don't. look at the avengers cartoon, he can just show up, say "you people are destroying my future:argh:" warp them there to illustrate and BAM, he's all set up.

i don't think they'll use him though because then the team has no reason to already be assembled. shield is putting them together because the need them, which means they know there's a threat. the hulk fits there as does an alien invasion, i don't think kang does. i don't see him warping into the past to say "i'm going to start some **** in a year or so"

[bored]

It's not the ties to other franchises that worries me with Kang. It'd be easy to ignore the FF meeting him as Rama Tut, or his connection to Dr. Doom. But bringing in the time-traveling warlord immediately would be too much, too soon. You need something that it can look like SHIELD has been preparing for in their formation of the Avengers, and if Nick Fury knew Kang was coming well in advance, that'd make for one crappy time-traveling warlord.

[Wolvieboy17]

i don't. look at the avengers cartoon, he can just show up, say "you people are destroying my future:argh:" warp them there to illustrate and BAM, he's all set up.

i don't think they'll use him though because then the team has no reason to already be assembled. shield is putting them together because the need them, which means they know there's a threat. the hulk fits there as does an alien invasion, i don't think kang does. i don't see him warping into the past to say "i'm going to start some **** in a year or so"

You worry me sir. With such a liberal and devil may care application of time travel to a narrative, you threaten and endanger the very fabric of an already fabricated universe!

Seriously though, you do somewhat confuse me because with all your reasoned arguments regarding the Captain America costume and the whole 'realism' debate, this opinion seems somewhat contradictory.

[lixdexia]

You worry me sir. With such a liberal and devil may care application of time travel to a narrative, you threaten and endanger the very fabric of an already fabricated universe!

Seriously though, you do somewhat confuse me because with all your reasoned arguments regarding the Captain America costume and the whole 'realism' debate, this opinion seems somewhat contradictory.
i'm not sure i understand what you find as contradictory? if you'll give examples i'll try to explain my stance more clearly.

[Wolvieboy17]

Well, you thought elements of the classic Cap 616 costume might detract from the realism of the film, yet time travel wouldn't?

[lixdexia]

Well, you thought elements of the classic Cap 616 costume might detract from the realism of the film, yet time travel wouldn't?
no i didn't? i firmly advocated a more traditional cap costume, something similar to the one shown in the video game, i just happen to also like the costume they did end up using so whatevs.

[BigThor]

What building exactly have they done? Not only is Kang a solely Cosmic character who's origins revolve around time travel or past and future events, but also he's tied strongly to Dr Doom.

I would think that considering Thor is the closest thing to the Marvel Cosmic universe, and we aren't even sure whether they're playing that down or not, not to mention Kangs origins being tied up with other franchises not owned by Marvel at the moment, it would be a little difficult.

With the current settings for all these characters, I think there needs to be a much more significant build up before they are battling cosmic time travelling conquerers...

True, you have a very valid point it's just that the Avengers EMH is really handling Kang well and that's what overthrew my better judgement.

If they want to im sure they could include them if they really tried to but like you said it's best that they save him for a sequel.

[Wolvieboy17]

no i didn't? i firmly advocated a more traditional cap costume, something similar to the one shown in the video game, i just happen to also like the costume they did end up using so whatevs.

My mistake Lix. I could have sworn you were only recently in a debate with someone on the Cap forums defending the movie costume over having the classic costume. I apologise.

Shame, I thought we were on the same page :(

True, you have a very valid point it's just that the Avengers EMH is really handling Kang well and that's what overthrew my better judgement.

If they want to im sure they could include them if they really tried to but like you said it's best that they save him for a sequel.

Well they may well include him or even Thanos in a sequel. Marvel did mention their interest in tackling the cosmic side of the Marvel universe at some point after the Avengers.

[TikkiEXX]

all this talk about Skrulls and stuff has got me thinking all cosmic. lol. how badass would it be to see The Annihilators on the big screen? theyre basically The Cosmic Avengers. the team consists of Beta Ray Bill,Silver Surfer,Quasar,Ronan The Accuser and GLADIATOR. probably NEVER happen but a man can dream cant he? lol

[WildcatNC]

I highly doubt Fox is planning to keep the FF rights, if they have we'd hear something about a new movie. Fox seems to be willing to keep the X-Men rights though, as they keep s****ing out movies.


Fox will continue crapping out movies ad infinitum to keep the rights to X-Men.

Sony will never relinquish Spider Man unless they go bankrupt for some reason.

I'm thinking all the other properties will find their way back to Marvel soon. Punisher is already back in house. DD and FF will be soon as well IMO. As soon as the new Ghost Rider flops it won't be long either.

[TikkiEXX]

Fox will continue crapping out movies ad infinitum to keep the rights to X-Men.

Sony will never relinquish Spider Man unless they go bankrupt for some reason.

I'm thinking all the other properties will find their way back to Marvel soon. Punisher is already back in house. DD and FF will be soon as well IMO. As soon as the new Ghost Rider flops it won't be long either.
man i love Ghost Rider but theres a part of me that hopes the sequel sucks so Fox drops it and the rights go back to Marvel. unfortunately the movie will probably suck and Fox will keep the rights anyway. lol

[JAK®]

Ghost Rider is Sony, isn't it?

[Blackman]

yeppers

[Dark Raven]

After the slew of X-Men First Class pics, Marvel needs to release a bunch of Avengers movie stills. Yes, I know the movie hasn't even been filmed yet, but why not have the actors at least suit up and stand around and pose in their costumes for some faux stills (really publicity shots)? RDJ, Chris Evans, Chris Hemsworth, Samuel L Jackson and Scarlett Johansson already have their movie costumes, so it wouldn't be that difficult. Any shot with them in costume would look like a movie still to whet our appetite. Heck, even have Downey Jr and Evans pretend they're arguing about something.

[RaZaTrOn]

Why? Because they have two big films coming out pretty soon so they are focusing on getting those out to the general public.

My guess is that by Captain America we will start to see bits and bobs of the Avengers.

[Crimson King]

What Raz said, but also because we might get suit re-designs/touch-ups in the Avengers movie.

[BigThor]

Yeah because they gotta focus on Thor for the most part right now, and a few weeks after Thor's released they're gonna focus on Cpt. America.

After those are taken care of then they're going to start focusing on The Avengers. There's a "balance" they have to maintain, everything shouldn't be a commercial for The Avengers..

[steintym]

Waaay too soon to be worrying about the Avengers. Let the Cap and Thor movies come out and the hype will start picking up. We don't need a bunch of half-***ed pictures coming out, just to get something out there.

[marcvader]

I think Branagh is giving us a solid well conceived movie followed by Johnstons turn which I feel will be a classic. Avengers is going to be the talk of the town with all this groundwork laid out before it.

[marcvader]

I think Branagh is giving us a solid well conceived movie followed by Johnstons turn which I feel will be a classic. Avengers is going to be the talk of the town with all this groundwork laid out before it.

[JP]

After the slew of X-Men First Class pics, Marvel needs to release a bunch of Avengers movie stills. Yes, I know the movie hasn't even been filmed yet, but why not have the actors at least suit up and stand around and pose in their costumes for some faux stills (really publicity shots)? RDJ, Chris Evans, Chris Hemsworth, Samuel L Jackson and Scarlett Johansson already have their movie costumes, so it wouldn't be that difficult. Any shot with them in costume would look like a movie still to whet our appetite. Heck, even have Downey Jr and Evans pretend they're arguing about something.

A slew of pics were released for a film that's coming out in 5 months. :huh:

Keep Avengers away until after Thor and Cap come out. Focus on those films.

[TikkiEXX]

Yeah because they gotta focus on Thor for the most part right now, and a few weeks after Thor's released they're gonna focus on Cpt. America.

After those are taken care of then they're going to start focusing on The Avengers. There's a "balance" they have to maintain, everything shouldn't be a commercial for The Avengers..
i feel ya on that. its way too early to be expecting pics or anything else from The Avengers. maybe a rough script but thats about it. and what do you think about Marvel announcing theyre working on a Black Panther movie?(YESSSSSS!!!!)

[BigThor]

i feel ya on that. its way too early to be expecting pics or anything else from The Avengers. maybe a rough script but thats about it. and what do you think about Marvel announcing theyre working on a Black Panther movie?(YESSSSSS!!!!)

Oh yeah the Black Panther news made me super excited, that's my 3rd favorite Avenger. I can see a late 2013 or early 2014 release day for it, so we can probably expect to see him in the "potential" Avengers sequel.

I wonder when they could release a possible Thor sequel? I guess 2014 would be a good year for a sequel if the first Thor does well that is.

[MoPlaYa]

A slew of pics were released for a film that's coming out in 5 months. :huh:

Keep Avengers away until after Thor and Cap come out. Focus on those films.

My thoughts exactly

[bored]

I agree that they shouldn't rush anything, but I wouldn't mind some concept art for Hawkeye.

[Mercurius]

What Raz said, but also because we might get suit re-designs/touch-ups in the Avengers movie.


One can only hope so, in the case of Captain America.

[BigThor]

One can only hope so, in the case of Captain America.

His uniform looks great to me, they just would have to modernize it for The Avengers (ie. without the brown boots etc.)

The shield looks PERFECT

[Mercurius]

The shield looks PERFECT

We agree on the above.

[BigThor]

We agree on the above.

Yeah and I like how it has an even cooler "metallic" shine to it than it doesn't have in the Avengers cartoon.

[RealIrOnMaN]

Don Cheadle says "War Machine" solo movie has a writer, but Rhodey won't show up in "Avengers (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2011/01/21/war-machine-movie-don-cheadle-avengers/)

[Dr Lee]

a Good news, Bad news situation then...

[RealIrOnMaN]

a Good news, Bad news situation then...
Well, I'm happy, that Tony will get all the "armored" attention) Frankly, I don't understand why does there have to be a War Machine movie. The guy doesn't even have an arch-nemesis, lol)

Anyway, can someone check the latest issue of EW? I've heard there's a big Joss Whedon interview inside.

[Matt Mortem]

A war machine movie? Meh. I'm also glad to hear he won't be in the Avengers. I would feel like having another armored character would come off a little redundant.

[BigThor]

Don Cheadle says "War Machine" solo movie has a writer, but Rhodey won't show up in "Avengers (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2011/01/21/war-machine-movie-don-cheadle-avengers/)

Im glad he won't be in The Avengers, but seriously Marvel is going overboard with giving too characters there own movie.

Including "War Machine" in Iron Man 2 was stretch for me, now his only solo movie? That's worse than making a "Robin" or "Bucky Barnes" movie.

[BigThor]

This only provides more fuel to peope who call the superhero film genre "stale".

[Iceman]

I wanted War Machine to be in about 2 minutes of Avengers with maybe 2 lines, certainly not in his own movie yet! This is the wrong direction...consolidation of the big guns into Avengers is positive for the genre & its overall image while excessive branching off & multiple spin offs of relatively minor characters before you have a confirmed quality product is not. If Avengers does the biggest numbers for a comic book film, then is the time you can start considering projects like this.

[Sawyer]

Anyway, can someone check the latest issue of EW? I've heard there's a big Joss Whedon interview inside.

I think the interview is mainly regarding Buffy, because the Season Eight comic book came out with its final issue this week. But I'm sure there'll be an Avengers question or two in there.

[BigThor]

I wanted War Machine to be in about 2 minutes of Avengers with maybe 2 lines, certainly not in his own movie yet! This is the wrong direction...consolidation of the big guns into Avengers is positive for the genre & its overall image while excessive branching off & multiple spin offs of relatively minor characters before you have a confirmed quality product is not. If Avengers does the biggest numbers for a comic book film, then is the time you can start considering projects like this.

Which is The Dark Knight, but I can see The Avengers surpassing that.

Still characters like War Machine should be pushed down the line, because we still have to have very possible Thor & Captain America sequels to think about

[Violet Lantern]

Too bad Columbia owns the rights to Spider-Man.

[roach]

Im glad he won't be in The Avengers, but seriously Marvel is going overboard with giving too characters there own movie.

Including "War Machine" in Iron Man 2 was stretch for me, now his only solo movie? That's worse than making a "Robin" or "Bucky Barnes" movie.

you have too look at this from Marvel's side. As a film company they are very limited in what they can make into movies. Actors like Don Cheedle and SLJ are not making a lot of money off these movies like they could be. So they work in deals for solo movies.
As a company Marvel needs to prepare themselves incase Thor or Cap or Avengers isnt a hit...which is why we are hearing about other heroes being prepped for films...like BP and WM.

[marcvader]

I hope Warmachine never gets a spinoff. It would be ridiculous to skip more deserving characters like Black Panther, Namor, Luke Cage, Ironfist, Cloak and Dagger, Captain Marvel, Nova, Moon Knight. should I go on? Warmachine is redundant.

[BigThor]

you have too look at this from Marvel's side. As a film company they are very limited in what they can make into movies. Actors like Don Cheedle and SLJ are not making a lot of money off these movies like they could be. So they work in deals for solo movies.
As a company Marvel needs to prepare themselves incase Thor or Cap or Avengers isnt a hit...which is why we are hearing about other heroes being prepped for films...like BP and WM.

If it's hard for a character as popular as Hulk has a hard time having a successful film, so what makes it such a cool idea to make a movie about Iron Man's sidekick.

[Son of Coul]

Eh, this stuff happens all the time in Hollywood. Unless he appears again in IM3 and is a breakout hit in it, I don't see this actually getting made. I think they just want to keep their options open as always.

[lixdexia]

If it's hard for a character as popular as Hulk has a hard time having a successful film, so what makes it such a cool idea to make a movie about Iron Man's sidekick.
1- hulk's popularity is overestimated. he's popular like superman is popular, everyone knows the iconography and basics of the story but there are only a few devoted fans.
2- a war machine movie makes fiscal sense because it's just another ironman film to the public at large and that has proven to be a bankable franchise

[marcvader]

So make another Iron Man movie. Hellllo

[lixdexia]

So make another Iron Man movie. Hellllo
they're doing that too, but a war machine movie would be much more cost effective

[Spider-Vader]

If we get a War Machine movie I don't think it'll be anytime soon. 2014 at the earliest.

[Sebastos]

Don Cheadle says "War Machine" solo movie has a writer, but Rhodey won't show up in "Avengers (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2011/01/21/war-machine-movie-don-cheadle-avengers/)

Now that's interesting.

[BigThor]

1- hulk's popularity is overestimated. he's popular like superman is popular, everyone knows the iconography and basics of the story but there are only a few devoted fans.
2- a war machine movie makes fiscal sense because it's just another ironman film to the public at large and that has proven to be a bankable franchise

1. Hulk is farrrr more popular than War Machine will ever be.

2. It really doesn't make sense because the public seeing it as another Iron Man film wouldn't be a good thing. They will have a "been there done that" attitude.

3. Iron Man 3 is good enough

[Iron_Stark]

Oh please give War Machine his own movie, maybe that way he won't show up in Iron Man 3.

[BigThor]

Oh please give War Machine his own movie, maybe that way he won't show up in Iron Man 3.

He did take alot of shine away from Iron Man in IM2

[wobbly]

1- hulk's popularity is overestimated. he's popular like superman is popular, everyone knows the iconography and basics of the story but there are only a few devoted fans.
2- a war machine movie makes fiscal sense because it's just another ironman film to the public at large and that has proven to be a bankable franchise

Have to disagree on that.
Regarding the Hulks popularity: The Hulk idea was enough to sustain a live action TV show for 5 years (longer than Spider-Man's attempt), and whose early cancellation in its last season was considered a shock at the time. That same rather repetitive formula saw another few TV movies later on (there would have been more but Bixby's death ended that) and Ang Lee's Hulk boasted the highest ever opening weekend for a June release when that came out, in spite of mixed reviews and a Workprint of the film hitting the internet a few weeks before that release. Clearly the GA have a lot of interest in the big guy.

Now it's arguable how much the GA finding Lee's film was not at all what they wanted or expected affected the TIH, but personally I think Norton's outing would have done a lot better but for the bad taste of the 03 effort left combined with Universals decidedly lack lustre marketing.

As for War Machine...Rhodes is no Tony Stark, and Iron-Man's success and bank-ability was as much to do with RDJ's great performance as Stark as it was the eye candy of his armor in action (more so in fact, considering how much time we see Stark without any armor).
So for me trying to sell a War Machine solo movie would be hard enough to make them stay away from it, simply because he won't be bringing anything to the table that the audience can't get, and get it better, with Iron-Man himself. To the GA Rhodes role in the books won't matter, they will always see him and his armor as a knock off.

[lixdexia]

Have to disagree on that.
Regarding the Hulks popularity: The Hulk idea was enough to sustain a live action TV show for 5 years (longer than Spider-Man's attempt), and whose early cancellation in its last season was considered a shock at the time. That same rather repetitive formula saw another few TV movies later on (there would have been more but Bixby's death ended that) and Ang Lee's Hulk boasted the highest ever opening weekend for a June release when that came out, in spite of mixed reviews and a Workprint of the film hitting the internet a few weeks before that release. Clearly the GA have a lot of interest in the big guy.

Now it's arguable how much the GA finding Lee's film was not at all what they wanted or expected affected the TIH, but personally I think Norton's outing would have done a lot better but for the bad taste of the 03 effort left combined with Universals decidedly lack lustre marketing.

As for War Machine...Rhodes is no Tony Stark, and Iron-Man's success and bank-ability was as much to do with RDJ's great performance as Stark as it was the eye candy of his armor in action (more so in fact, considering how much time we see Stark without any armor).
So for me trying to sell a War Machine solo movie would be hard enough to make them stay away from it, simply because he won't be bringing anything to the table that the audience can't get, and get it better, with Iron-Man himself. To the GA Rhodes role in the books won't matter, they will always see him and his armor as a knock off.
except he does bring something to the table tony stark doesn't: minority status. people want to see a black superhero and he's a pretty prominent one. you also get a more military movie with him as the lead and that will appeal to some people too.obviously if they make it it won't be out for years and they'll want something to be bringing the ironman money in without having to pay a higher salary to rdj and war machine fills that role

[Blackman]

what would a War Machine solo movie be about?

Rhodey going on military missions?

[Sebastos]

Who would be the villain?

[lixdexia]

i figure he'd probably get one of ironman's that didn't make it into his series. he could be on an a.i.m. hunt

[BigThor]

have to disagree on that.
Regarding the hulks popularity: The hulk idea was enough to sustain a live action tv show for 5 years (longer than spider-man's attempt), and whose early cancellation in its last season was considered a shock at the time. That same rather repetitive formula saw another few tv movies later on (there would have been more but bixby's death ended that) and ang lee's hulk boasted the highest ever opening weekend for a june release when that came out, in spite of mixed reviews and a workprint of the film hitting the internet a few weeks before that release. Clearly the ga have a lot of interest in the big guy.

Now it's arguable how much the ga finding lee's film was not at all what they wanted or expected affected the tih, but personally i think norton's outing would have done a lot better but for the bad taste of the 03 effort left combined with universals decidedly lack lustre marketing.

As for war machine...rhodes is no tony stark, and iron-man's success and bank-ability was as much to do with rdj's great performance as stark as it was the eye candy of his armor in action (more so in fact, considering how much time we see stark without any armor).
So for me trying to sell a war machine solo movie would be hard enough to make them stay away from it, simply because he won't be bringing anything to the table that the audience can't get, and get it better, with iron-man himself. To the ga rhodes role in the books won't matter, they will always see him and his armor as a knock off.

Exactly!!!

[CaptainStacy]

Have to disagree on that.
Regarding the Hulks popularity: The Hulk idea was enough to sustain a live action TV show for 5 years (longer than Spider-Man's attempt), and whose early cancellation in its last season was considered a shock at the time. That same rather repetitive formula saw another few TV movies later on (there would have been more but Bixby's death ended that) and Ang Lee's Hulk boasted the highest ever opening weekend for a June release when that came out, in spite of mixed reviews and a Workprint of the film hitting the internet a few weeks before that release. Clearly the GA have a lot of interest in the big guy.

Now it's arguable how much the GA finding Lee's film was not at all what they wanted or expected affected the TIH, but personally I think Norton's outing would have done a lot better but for the bad taste of the 03 effort left combined with Universals decidedly lack lustre marketing.

As for War Machine...Rhodes is no Tony Stark, and Iron-Man's success and bank-ability was as much to do with RDJ's great performance as Stark as it was the eye candy of his armor in action (more so in fact, considering how much time we see Stark without any armor).
So for me trying to sell a War Machine solo movie would be hard enough to make them stay away from it, simply because he won't be bringing anything to the table that the audience can't get, and get it better, with Iron-Man himself. To the GA Rhodes role in the books won't matter, they will always see him and his armor as a knock off.

Agree with all of this. :up:

[Jake Cassidy]

except he does bring something to the table tony stark doesn't: minority status. people want to see a black superhero and he's a pretty prominent one.

Black Panther

[BigThor]

Black Panther

Yep, and he's much more unique and prominent than War Machine

[BizarroAids]

I hope Warmachine never gets a spinoff. It would be ridiculous to skip more deserving characters like Black Panther, Namor, Luke Cage, Ironfist, Cloak and Dagger, Captain Marvel, Nova, Moon Knight. should I go on? Warmachine is redundant.

I agree with you on this. There should be no doubt that Black Panther get a movie before War Machine. I don't see a War Machine movie being as interesting if he's not with Iron Man. He's more of a scene stealer; help Stark type. He doesn't have that much of a draw, I mean he's a pretty cut and dry military guy. He's got more of the guns, than the cool tech that Tony has, or could come up with.

[WildcatNC]

Studios hire writers and float scripts all the time. They are just covering the bases.

[Doctor Jones]

Good. I don't want War Machine in The Avengers. He doesn't need to be in it at all.

[Dark Raven]

I see a War Machine movie as being like Predator 2 without Arnie. Don Cheadle isn't exactly a big draw in himself, and his portrayal of Rhodes is rather too serious. It's RDJ who is the driving force in Iron Man with the GA. Having a War Machine movie might dilute the Iron Man franchise and have a negative effect on it, as it could make the GA grow weary of both characters. Maybe if War Machine/ Rhodes had been played by someone more charismatic (and I don't mean Terrence "whiney voice" Howard), then it might work, but I don't see Don Cheadle and his version of Rhodes as being all that interesting on screen.

[Iron_Stark]

He did take alot of shine away from Iron Man in IM2

Not really, but he did take away from the villains big time.


But now that I think about it, screw a WM movie if they intend for him to fight an IM villain. I wouldn't want to see someone like Titanium Man, Crimson Dynamo or even AIM introduced in his movies. It's bad enough IM's rouges gallery is relatively weak and severely outdated, there's no need for WM to take from IM's villains again.

And if they're that desperate to do a minority character, then do Black Panther, Luke Cage, White Tiger, Shang Chi, Nick Fury and SHIELD. There's no need to milk the IM franchise.

[terry78]

Not really, but he did take away from the villains big time.


But now that I think about it, screw a WM movie if they intend for him to fight an IM villain. I wouldn't want to see someone like Titanium Man, Crimson Dynamo or even AIM introduced in his movies. It's bad enough IM's rouges gallery is relatively weak and severely outdated, there's no need for WM to take from IM's villains again.

And if they're that desperate to do a minority character, then do Black Panther, Luke Cage, White Tiger, Shang Chi, Nick Fury and SHIELD. There's no need to milk the IM franchise.

I'm sure you didn't mean that as condescending as it sounded, but in essence I do agree with Rhodes not really needing his own flick.

[marcvader]

Hell, id rather see Blade again in theaters before WM.

[BizarroAids]

Good. I don't want War Machine in The Avengers. He doesn't need to be in it at all.



Only if it's called Secret Avengers. :oldrazz:

[Blackman]

Hell, id rather see Blade again in theaters before WM.

Definitely

[Rock Sexton]

I see a War Machine movie as being like Predator 2 without Arnie. Don Cheadle isn't exactly a big draw in himself, and his portrayal of Rhodes is rather too serious. It's RDJ who is the driving force in Iron Man with the GA. Having a War Machine movie might dilute the Iron Man franchise and have a negative effect on it, as it could make the GA grow weary of both characters. Maybe if War Machine/ Rhodes had been played by someone more charismatic (and I don't mean Terrence "whiney voice" Howard), then it might work, but I don't see Don Cheadle and his version of Rhodes as being all that interesting on screen.

I just posted about this over in the Marvel thread. I just don't see how a War Machine standalone film is viable. It's basically infringing on Iron Man. I know that stuff with super heroes sharing the same powers works in the comics, but it's just a whole different medium with film. They already have a man in a technologically advanced suit. To try and run with another one would have a dilutive effect IMO.

[OB12]

I don't really see what the big deal. A War Machine movie could potentially be pretty good. I would be open minded to it, Cheadle is a great actor and I am sure there are facets of the character that he would like to explore. Why not give him that chance? I would also like to see him have a cameo in the Avengers if there is some massive worldwide threat. Just a quick cutaway to War Machine and some SHIELD agents trying to repel the invading forces somewhere in the world.

[marcvader]

Because Warmachine is not an interesting enough character to spend money on making when there are a bunch more in the stable waiting to be made.

[BigThor]

Because Warmachine is not an interesting enough character to spend money on making when there are a bunch more in the stable waiting to be made.

I agree, there's far better heroes in the stable as well

[TikkiEXX]

if they wanna do a War Machine movie more power to em. the more the merrier as far as im concerned. and the War Machine comic from a whie back was pretty sweet, even tho Rhodey was a cyborg the whole time but the concept was cool. basically War Machine going around the world killing terrorists and other bad guys that deserved it but were untouchable for one reason or another. were getting Black Panther so im not complaining. and its not like these are gonna be major big time block busters. id imagine it would be one of the lower budget movies they mentioned a while ago. so probably low risk high reward for disney and marvel

[Hurm...]

I can see a War Machine movie set in Afghanistan, where he is working with soldiers and completing missions. Something that looks like Hurt Locker but has War Machine in it.

[Rock Sexton]

I can see a War Machine movie set in Afghanistan, where he is working with soldiers and completing missions. Something that looks like Hurt Locker but has War Machine in it.

..... But who's going to be the film's antagonist? Another armored villain? We've seen that - it was called Iron Man and Iron Man 2.

[TikkiEXX]

pick some war mongering type of villain. if theyre gonna do War Machine maybe focus on more militiristic types of bad guys. either that or turn him loose on a branch of Hydra or A.I.M. they always make good canon fodder. lol. i admit that was pretty half assed but im sure Marvel can come up with something or they wouldnt bother. probably be quite a while before we hear anything really solid about this so im putting it on the backburner until i know more. still hyped off the Black Panther news so honestly i really dont care about War Machine at the moment. i just think if done right it could be a cool little action flick, i dont expect it to be Iron Man and it shouldnt be. or else its just a waste of everyones time

[OB12]

Who knows what the writers could come up with for War Machine. I'm willing to give it a shot if Marvel thinks they can produce a good story. The thing is it is not like exploring a War Machine movie is preventing them from moving forward with Ant-Man, Black Panther, Dr. Strange or other characters. I am sure they are fully aware of the fact that there are some pretty good characters that have yet to be developed and working hard to bring them to the big screen.

[TikkiEXX]

Who knows what the writers could come up with for War Machine. I'm willing to give it a shot if Marvel thinks they can produce a good story. The thing is it is not like exploring a War Machine movie is preventing them from moving forward with Ant-Man, Black Panther, Dr. Strange or other characters. I am sure they are fully aware of the fact that there are some pretty good characters that have yet to be developed and working hard to bring them to the big screen.
yeah i dont see how this is a bad thing. if anything it gives me some hope that some of the more obscure characters will get some screen time eventually. cant wait for the first Cosmic character to get a movie, and with Iron Fist getting a movie i can see a Heroes for Hire movie eventually. basically its all good for the moment. they havent turned into Fox yet. lol

[BigThor]

yeah i dont see how this is a bad thing. if anything it gives me some hope that some of the more obscure characters will get some screen time eventually. cant wait for the first Cosmic character to get a movie, and with Iron Fist getting a movie i can see a Heroes for Hire movie eventually. basically its all good for the moment. they havent turned into Fox yet. lol

I wish Fox didn't have the rights to Silver Surfer, because he's the most popular Cosmic character in the Marvel Universe. He's also one of the more interesting ones as well.

[Bren]

The thing is it is not like exploring a War Machine movie is preventing them from moving forward with Ant-Man, Black Panther, Dr. Strange or other characters.

I'd be guessing that yes it could prevent other characters getting a chance. I mean, it costs money right? I'd guess they only have so much, so they have to budget on which films they spend it on.

Nothing against a WM film, but I think the ONLY benefit it has is it's a known quantity and they've done all the homework for armour/cgi already. There's no other advantage over a character like Black Panther.

[RealIrOnMaN]

Chris Hemsworth talks about the Avengers (http://www.mtv.com/videos/movies/615845/chris-hemsworth-looking-forward-to-the-avengers.jhtml#name=movies&id=1656410)

[ttotheusher]

I swear that guy is the only who actually talks about The Avengers!

It's non-viewable in the UK, doe's he say anthing interesting or is it the same old story?

[RealIrOnMaN]

I swear that guy is the only who actually talks about The Avengers!

It's non-viewable in the UK, doe's he say anthing interesting or is it the same old story?
He says, that:

* After that last meeting back in SDCC'10, he met only RDJ & Chris Evans at Golden Globes.
* He read the early draft of the movie & spoke to Joss Whedon about it.
* The draft contains a lot of classic stuff from the comics. Chris mentioned Hulk vs. Thor brawl.

* He neither confirmed or denied Hawkeye's cameo in Thor
* He didn't had the chance to see the rough cut of Thor.

[Crimson King]

Chris Hemsworth talks about the Avengers (http://www.mtv.com/videos/movies/615845/chris-hemsworth-looking-forward-to-the-avengers.jhtml#name=movies&id=1656410)

I think this guy's our new Michael Caine when it comes to leaking information. Hulk vs. Thor! I can't wait to see some of these scenes.

[Whiskey Tango]

Chris mentioned Hulk vs. Thor brawl.

:awesome::awesome::awesome:

[Venom'sDad]

Fantastic, I always wondered if we would get a taste of that classic brawl between Hulk and Thor. Fantastic indeed.

[Doctor Jones]

Did he say there will be a brawl? He said in the comics there's that... so in a way, I guess he mentioned it.

But honestly, you can't go without an Hulk and Thor brawl in an Avengers film.

[RealIrOnMaN]

But honestly, you can't go without an Hulk and Thor brawl in an Avengers film.
So much win in that! :awesome:

[The Guard]

There's been talk of a WAR MACHINE movie before. It's like anything else, if it's well executed, it could be good.

Does War Machine have any arch-enemies?

I posted this elsewhere, but has anyone considered that they may be positioning Rhoades to take over as Iron Man, as he did briefly in the comics?

[HighFivingMF]

There's been talk of a WAR MACHINE movie before. It's like anything else, if it's well executed, it could be good.

Does War Machine have any arch-enemies?

I posted this elsewhere, but has anyone considered that they may be positioning Rhoades to take over as Iron Man, as he did briefly in the comics?
The closest thing I could find to an arch-nemesis in my search was The Advisor.

[dpm07]

But honestly, you can't go without an Hulk and Thor brawl in an Avengers film.

I completely agree with you! My greatest fear though, is that they will make Thor job to The Hulk in an effort to show The Hulk's strength, when in actuality, Thor can hang with him himself. I've just got that dreadful vision of The Ultimates and Hulk vs. Thor animated features in my head, and want to see Thor given the respect he deserves.

[Iceman]

If Hulk ends up being the only physical villain in Avengers (:csad:), then they will have to make it obvious that Hulk could take this move version of Thor by himself. Otherwise there's not going to be a whole lot of suspense when Cap, Iron Man & co add their weight to Thor's team.

[roach]

If Hulk ends up being the only physical villain in Avengers (:csad:), then they will have to make it obvious that Hulk could take this move version of Thor by himself. Otherwise there's not going to be a whole lot of suspense when Cap, Iron Man & co add their weight to Thor's team.

kinda have to agree with this yet there was nothing I saw in the Thor trailer that clue'd me into him having great strength...power yes...strength no

[Venom'sDad]

I don't have a proper feel for this film yet to say; but I hope that Thor does hold his own...eventually, he should lose. Should show the need to enlist the help of the team.

[roach]

I just need to see Thor being super strong and fly

[BizarroAids]

Did he say there will be a brawl? He said in the comics there's that... so in a way, I guess he mentioned it.

But honestly, you can't go without an Hulk and Thor brawl in an Avengers film.

Something like what was seen in "Hulk vs. Thor." Or, if all the members are around, something close to "Ultimate Avengers" that fight was great, and a live action version would be pure eye candy.

Definitely want to see Hulk try to pick up Mjolnir.

[Rock Sexton]

He says, that:

* After that last meeting back in SDCC'10, he met only RDJ & Chris Evans at Golden Globes.
* He read the early draft of the movie & spoke to Joss Whedon about it.
* The draft contains a lot of classic stuff from the comics. Chris mentioned Hulk vs. Thor brawl.

* He neither confirmed or denied Hawkeye's cameo in Thor
* He didn't had the chance to see the rough cut of Thor.

To add to that he also noted that there'll be friction among the team because you have all these big egos in one space.

Sounds to me like Joss is really going to play on that story arc. I think that's a great thing because it would be far to easy to just trot them out there and they seamlessly come together to take down a big threat. One of the real "threats" is that if they don't overcome their differences, even they will be defeated.

[The Guard]

The closest thing I could find to an arch-nemesis in my search was The Advisor.

That sounds every bit as cool as The Calculator.

Maybe he can fight Fin Fang Foom or something.

[SuperSAINT]

Whilst the plot was somewhat up in the air... Thor vs Hulk was ALWAYS going to happen in my book :)

[Crimson King]

I just got finished reading Whedon's Astonishing X-Men run (I know, I'm late to the party). Doing so has made me pretty **** excited to see the Avengers. He handled a big storyline really well and even managed to make me care about characters I couldn't have given two doo-doos for previously (like Cyclops). Really well done.

[BigThor]

I completely agree with you! My greatest fear though, is that they will make Thor job to The Hulk in an effort to show The Hulk's strength, when in actuality, Thor can hang with him himself. I've just got that dreadful vision of The Ultimates and Hulk vs. Thor animated features in my head, and want to see Thor given the respect he deserves.

Trust me, The Ultimate Avengers version of Thor vs Hulk was MUCHHHHHHH better than the Hulk Vs. Thor animated movie.

Atleast Thor was winning for most of the fight in the Ultimate Avengers movie, where as in Hulk Vs. he was Hulk's punching bag. He even almost died after Hulk BEAT HIM DOWN for 95% of the fight.

I wish I could email the writers of that movie and say "ARE YOU F***ING SERIOUS"!!!

[BigThor]

Fantastic, I always wondered if we would get a taste of that classic brawl between Hulk and Thor. Fantastic indeed.

As long as Hulk and Thor are on the same playing field, then yes that would be very fantastic.

These are the two different ways I expect to see the fight played out.

1. Hulk and Thor fight evenly for most of the fight then Hulk gets the upperhand and the rest of the Avengers come to help out.

2. The Avengers are getting beaten by Hulk, then Thor comes and defeats Hulk after they've worn Hulk down a bit.

But the route that I would LOVE to see would be for Thor steps up to fight Hulk but the fight eventually starts causing to much destruction so the rest of the Avengers would have to try to stop them both.

[Sebastos]

The draft contains a lot of classic stuff from the comics. Chris mentioned Hulk vs. Thor brawl.

Awesome. :up:

[BigThor]

Awesome. :up:

If done right it can be ;)

[WildcatNC]

He didn't really say it was in the movie but I think its a safe bet.

[BigThor]

He didn't really say it was in the movie but I think its a safe bet.

Yeah he didn't really say he saw it in the script, but if it's done right (not making Thor come off as weak) I would love to see it ;)

[Bren]

But the route that I would LOVE to see would be for Thor to come in to fight Hulk but their fight starts causing to much destruction so the rest of the Avengers would have to try to stop them both.

That's my hope as well.

[Aesop Rocks]

Come on, I hate all these "their egos are conflicting and it'll be exciting to see them in a room together" talks in regards to The Avengers. The only egotistical one would most likely be Iron Man. Captain America is too mature to give a **** about his superhero status, Thor is literally a God, and The Hulk is MiZzUnderrSt00dd. That's it. That's literally it.

[Sawyer]

Hulk's a punk ass *****. :o

[Aesop Rocks]

No way.

[Sawyer]

YA WAY!!! :awesome:

[Aesop Rocks]

The Hulk is a Frakkin' Skinjob.

[BigThor]

Come on, I hate all these "their egos are conflicting and it'll be exciting to see them in a room together" talks in regards to The Avengers. The only egotistical one would most likely be Iron Man. Captain America is too mature to give a **** about his superhero status, Thor is literally a God, and The Hulk is MiZzUnderrSt00dd. That's it. That's literally it.

Iron Man & Cap could have tension over who should be the leader, while Thor & Hulk could have tensions over who's the strongest.

[BigThor]

That's my hope as well.

Yeah I'm getting tired of the old "We all have to fight Hulk together since none of us are as powerful as him" routine (since in actuality Thor himself is on Hulk's level).

They used that same premise at the end of the Ultimate Avengers movie, as well as episode 8 of Avengers EMH - "Some Assembly Required". (Though neither was as bad as Hulk Vs.)

I think it would be much more epic if Thor get's so wrapped up in his fight with Hulk that he doesn't notice how much damage they're causing. Then it would be up to the rest of the Avengers to stop them from causing more destruction.

P.S. - I doubt they will go with an idea like that since Marvel has a track record of toning down Thor against Hulk, but I felt like stating would I think would be cool.

[Mercurius]

Iron Man & Cap could have tension over who should be the leader, while Thor & Hulk could have tensions over who's the strongest.

Given the present situation of Captain America, it would be a bit unreal if Iron Man wasn't the leader. Captain could keep him on the line, but Evans is not a commanding type, and Downey Junior acts IM in pure leader energy.


About Thor vs. Hulk, I agree: Marvel is always toning Thor down. Hulk is massive, but Thor is a god. He would simply wipe the floor with the green giant.

He is no threat for the Avengers as a group. It has worked in the comics but even there the real threat was Loki, who would be beaten by Thor alone if he wasn't such a mischievious and ingenious villain.

[JAK®]

Given the present situation of Captain America, it would be a bit unreal if Iron Man wasn't the leader. Captain could keep him on the line, but Evans is not a commanding type, and Downey Junior acts IM in pure leader energy.

You've already made your mind up about Captain America, haven't you?

[Whiskey Tango]

His mind has been made up about Cap since they cast Chris Evans, if not before.

[Brian Braddock]

And even if Evans manages eventually to win him around, somehow I doubt he'll come on here and say as much.

Just a hunch.

[Bren]

How could someone be thinking that Stark would be the leader of the team, when up to this point Shield don't even WANT Stark on the team?

I have complete faith in Evans being able to act firstly a subdued man out of time character, and then step up to the plate.

Adding to the personality clashes; why does noone think that Thor himself not challenge for leadership? I mean, he's been leading (under Odin of course) in Asgard for millenia, and we're assuming he won't demand/request/expect the reins now? On a team of mortals?

Besides the team participating in a titanic struggle to save humanity (or whatever), I'm going to the movie FOR the personality clashes I'm hoping there'll be.

[roach]

I think Fury will be the leader. I dont see anyone else doing that.

[JAK®]

Fury is the leader in the same way that Splinter is the leader of the Ninja Turtles.

[roach]

I just dont see them making Cap leader...."hey we just thawed you out lead this team"
not immediately anyhow

[bored]

I imagine either Fury will try to lead, or one of the SHIELD agent-Avengers (BW and Hawkeye) will be placed as the leader, only for Cap to step up through the course of the film and establish himself at the end, hopefully in a pants-crappingly awesome ensemble shot wherein he shouts "Avengers Assemble" at the top of his lungs.

[bored]

Come on, I hate all these "their egos are conflicting and it'll be exciting to see them in a room together" talks in regards to The Avengers. The only egotistical one would most likely be Iron Man. Captain America is too mature to give a **** about his superhero status, Thor is literally a God, and The Hulk is MiZzUnderrSt00dd. That's it. That's literally it.


That's pretty much how the Avengers were in the old days, though. Hulk didn't really like anyone else in his very brief tenure (and quit because he thought they didn't trust him), Thor wasn't used to not being granted deference for being the Odinson, Iron Man threw money at everything. When Hawkeye joined, all he did was ***** about how much he thought he should lead instead of Cap. Come to think of it, so did Quicksilver. And when Hercules joined, he made no attempt to hide the fact that he was enjoying himself while stuck with all the mortals. And so on and so forth.

[Crimson King]

I imagine either Fury will try to lead, or one of the SHIELD agent-Avengers (BW and Hawkeye) will be placed as the leader, only for Cap to step up through the course of the film and establish himself at the end, hopefully in a pants-crappingly awesome ensemble shot wherein he shouts "Avengers Assemble" at the top of his lungs.

That would be an awesome shot, but I'm wondering if they'll go the Avengers:EMH route and have Cap play second fiddle to Tony, at least for a little while.

[ttotheusher]

I quite like the idea of Cap being appointed leader, and Tony being highly upset and trying to muscle his way in to the group. Could be really funny.

[Sawyer]

The Hulk is a Frakkin' Skinjob.

:wow:

[Spidey-Quad]

Did you see The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen?

Sawyer was a wussy

Ever see lost?

They all were wussies

Ever watch a DC movie?

Well .....

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