Ruins

[ShadowBoxing]

Marvel: RUINS. Apparently the most grostesque What If ever written. Can anyone tell me more about it, post scans? I have only read the wiki and I am interested.

Silver Surfer commits suicide.

Captain America and Iron Man are killed for protesting the war..

Hulk is just a mass of tumors and puss...

Mutants and locked up and mutilated....
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/70346689148.1.GIF
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruins_(comics)

[The Question]

Basically, the idea is the Marvel Universe gone wrong. Most of the scientific accidents we saw in the Marvel Silver Age went the more likely rout of disfiguration and death. Others did get super powers, but have little or no control over them. The few Super Heroes there are have been hunted by the government and either arrested, killed, or turned into laughing stocks. The last real hope this version of the MU had was The Avengers, and as you said they were killed by the Government for posing too much of a threat. It's all about Phil Sheldon, the main character from Marvels, reaserching all of this wierd horrible stuff, coming to believe that something happened to the world that caused the good to go bad.

[deathshead2]

Question dude SB wanted stuff not from the wiki. All you did was sum up the wiki.

[The Question]

Sorry. I only really skimmed what he wrote.

[deathshead2]

Man ruins is depressing. I think Eli did a thread on this once.

[ShadowBoxing]

I'm trying to find a torrent for it right now. It's on Demonoid.com...But I can't register. :(

[deathshead2]

Are you sure you want to read it SB? Its going to be all depressing and twisted.

[ShadowBoxing]

Are you sure you want to read it SB? Its going to be all depressing and twisted.Yes, I really, really wanna read it:woot: . I like twisted sometimes.

[PhotoJones]

This looks like a question for the Stupid Marvel Questions thread...

[ShadowBoxing]

Warren Ellis first work for Marvel from what I've read.

[Harlekin]

Meh. Didn't really like it.

[TheCorpulent1]

I thought it was fun. A lot of What Ifs are cool in the same way a lot of Twilight Zone episodes are cool--they offer a glimpse at how one small change could have resulted in haunting, apocalyptic scenarios, thus highlighting the precarious nature of life itself. Ruins was pretty good at presenting arguably the most awful, hopeless potential Marvel universe ever. The art was pretty good, too.

[PhotoJones]

More awlful and hopeless then Bendis written continuity? :dry:

[TheCorpulent1]

I said "arguably," didn't I?

[PhotoJones]

I just saw an opportunity to make a lame Bendis joke and chose not to resist.

[TheCorpulent1]

We all have our moments of weakness.

[ShadowBoxing]

I thought it was fun. A lot of What Ifs are cool in the same way a lot of Twilight Zone episodes are cool--they offer a glimpse at how one small change could have resulted in haunting, apocalyptic scenarios, thus highlighting the precarious nature of life itself. Ruins was pretty good at presenting arguably the most awful, hopeless potential Marvel universe ever. The art was pretty good, too.
Yeah, with alternate Universes you can get away with whatever you want to do. That's in part what makes them fun, it can also make it hard to write a truly interesting one though.

[Harlekin]

What mostly turned me off from the book was the art. It was... gross.

And I've read Miracle Man, for cryin' out loud.

[TheCorpulent1]

Philistine. :o

[PhotoJones]

Quit stealing my line. :cmad:

[TheCorpulent1]

I've been calling people philistines for at least a year. I stole it from The Squid and the Whale, after my friend told me about a scene in it. :o

[PhotoJones]

That movie makes me feel weird about acedemic American society.

[TheCorpulent1]

That movie makes me feel weird about acedemic American society.
As weird as spelling "academic" wrong while talking about academia? :)

[PhotoJones]

As weird as spelling "academic" wrong while talking about academia? :)

Oops. ;)

[ShadowBoxing]

Got issue 1 today.

[TheCorpulent1]

Wow, that was quick.

[Harlekin]

Philistine. :o
Uhm, ok.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, that's right.

[Darthphere]

***** on a stick.

[PhotoJones]

I can't stop looking at Corp's avatar. I keep watching to see if it continues, but it always loops back around. :(

[Darthphere]

You're waiting for a penis?

[PhotoJones]

:confused:

[Darthphere]

Just agree that Tony's stache is awesome.

[TheCorpulent1]

Just agree that Tony's stache is awesome.
You can't see it in my avatar, but the second season of his cartoon also brought him to full-blown mullethood. And it. Is. Spectacular.

[Darthphere]

You can't see it in my avatar, but the second season of his cartoon also brought him to full-blown mullethood. And it. Is. Spectacular.

As all mullets are. Superman and Nightwing's power levels went up +75.

[PhotoJones]

You can't see it in my avatar, but the second season of his cartoon also brought him to full-blown mullethood. And it. Is. Spectacular.

Oh, the mullet is alive and well in that avatar. :up:

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, but you can really only see a tiny silhouette of it. You've gotta see it writ large to fully experience it. Not see it, mind; experience.

[ShadowBoxing]

Downloaded the first and second one. Now I've read both. It was interesting, but a little eratic.

[PhotoJones]

I loved the armor from that show. It look especially good in the Capcom games. :up:

[TheCorpulent1]

I loved the armor from that show. It look especially good in the Capcom games. :up:
Yeah, it was cool. I never figured out whether the modular armor in the comics was based on the cartoon's armor or the cartoon's armor was based on the modular armor.

[PhotoJones]

Yeah, it was cool. I never figured out whether the modular armor in the comics was based on the cartoon's armor or the cartoon's armor was based on the modular armor.

I think the cartoon based it off the comics. Right? Damn it.

[TheCorpulent1]

Probably. I think I remember the War Machine armor coming into play before the cartoon, and Rhodey wore the same War Machine armor as the comics' version throughout the cartoon.

[PhotoJones]

Is Rhodey still using the alien armor or using parts of it, or did he scrap it completely?

[TheCorpulent1]

He got rid of it completely since before The Crew, I believe. He also sold off everything but the gauntlets to his original War Machine armor in that same series.

[ShadowBoxing]

Iron Man is in Ruins.

[Harlekin]

Yeah, that's right.
:o. Our love is ended.

[TheCorpulent1]

Your loss, baby.

[The Geek Vault]

Did this comic come out recently? Defintily seems interesting. I'm a bit confused from reading about it on wiki does Jonny Blaze kill himself in the cell or is it a flash back?

[PhotoJones]

Nah, this is from a long time back.

[Cyrusbales]

Can't find it anywhere myself, gave up looking for it:(

[TheCorpulent1]

eBay is your savior. (http://cgi.ebay.com/Warren-Ellis-RUINS-1-2-Complete-Marvel-Marvels-Sequel_W0QQitemZ270163174504QQihZ017QQcategoryZ395 3QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

[Cyrusbales]

e-bay doesn't like me/doesn't let me buy from them, long story.

[TheCorpulent1]

You got banned from eBay? :confused:

[PhotoJones]

This morning, I snagged Punisher MAX #1-45 for $52.00. I hope it's good.

[TheCorpulent1]

I fell behind a while ago and just stopped reading it altogether, but before that it was good.

[Cyrusbales]

You got banned from eBay? :confused:

Not exactly, maxed out my paypal, then they wouldn't let me confirm(my bank is crappy), most places don't except cheques etc.

[Harlekin]

Your loss, baby.
Okay, our love is back on.

[PhotoJones]

I've been hearing about an arc called "Slavers" that's supposed to be the second coming or something.

[TheCorpulent1]

I think I might've dropped it before that...

[PhotoJones]

I've also heard there's another arc called "Kitchen Irish" that's pretty abismal.

[ShadowBoxing]

Can't find it anywhere myself, gave up looking for it:(
...and now I am writing a bio for it for Marvel Comics Appendix.