The Angelina Jolie "Catwoman" Thread

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

:wow: Angelina Jolie’s twins may arrive sooner than expected!

The world premiere of her new movie, Wanted, has unexpectedly been canceled. It was supposed to take place tomorrow, Thursday, June 12, in London’s Leicester Square.

Yesterday, the Wanted cast (sans Angie) promoted the film in Berlin at a photocall (including James McAvoy).

Insiders tell Star that doctors has advised Ms. Jolie not to travel away from the south of France, where she and partner Brad Pitt have been living with their four children.

Wanted opens everywhere on Friday, June 27.

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

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Angelina Jolie gave a refreshingly candid interview to Entertainment Weekly while checking out a window display of Corum watches at the Grand-Hôtel du Cap-Ferrat in the south of France.

On her partner not being easy to buy things for: “Brad is the hardest person to shop for. ‘He has impeccable design taste. And whenever he sees something he likes, he buys it for himself.”

On Brad’s most recent gift to her (a gun-charm necklace she wore to her EW photo shoot): ”Mad, our 6-year-old, draws lots of war scenarios. He’s all into war and guns. So for Mother’s Day he drew a machine gun, and Brad had it made into a necklace, which is really sweet. It’s really cute. I think it’s really good!”

On some people who can’t reconcile her old persona, where she talked about knives and cutting, with her more recent identity as a mother and activist: “But again, it’s not that different. The reason I talked about going through certain pains or even cutting myself is that I was already out the other side. I knew there were people that do that — and somehow are happy that somebody admitted they did and discussed how they got out of it. I don’t see the point of doing an interview unless you’re going to share the things you learn in life and the mistakes you make. So to admit that I’m extremely human and have done some dark things, I don’t think makes me unusual or unusually dark. I think it actually is the right thing to do and I’d like to think it’s the nice thing to do.”

On anything she’s said that she wishes she hadn’t (like all that business about wearing the vial of Billy Bob Thornton’s blood around your neck when you two were married): “No! It was never a vial anyway. It was like a flower press. It was like from a slight cut on your finger and you press your fingerprint in. It was kind of a sweet gesture. I thought it was kind of romantic! I still love him dearly and think the world of him and I’m proud to have been his wife for a time. I don’t believe in regrets. It’s a dangerous habit to get into — it makes you pause in your life if you start thinking back and questioning yourself.”

On people saying being pregnant is bad for one’s sex life: “No, I think it’s quite the opposite. It’s great for the sex life. It just makes you a lot more creative. So you have fun, and as a woman you’re just so round and full.”

On Brad’s new tattoo: “I drew that. We went to Davos. It’s not that we were bored at the World Economic Forum, but one night we didn’t have anything to do, so I was drawing on his back.”

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The entire interview can be read on EW's site: http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20192175_20192181_20205854,00.html

[Ender Durden]

theres something very "off" about her in those pics

[Two-Face]

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Love it :up:

[jaymes_e06]

theres something very "off" about her in those pics
over airbrushing.

[Shlee]

And lighting.

[Jolie_Desastre]

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[Jolie_Desastre]

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[Jolie_Desastre]

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[jaymes_e06]

^Thats one of my fave pics of her!

This is another
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[Spider-Man Luvr28]

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[Jolie_Desastre]

^Thats one of my fave pics of her!

This is another
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yeah i really loved that photoshoot. it was kind of bizarre but that's dave lachapelle for you.

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

NICE, France - Fabulous views of the shimmering Mediterranean, tufty palm trees, all bathed in a July sun. In short, a royal place for Brangelina's twins to make their much-awaited entrance. Angelina Jolie's obstetrician, Dr. Michel Sussmann, who is watching over the 33-year-old actress at a French Riviera hospital where she is expected to give birth, called a news conference for later Wednesday afternoon.

Would he announce that her twins had been born? That remained a mystery; the hospital wouldn't say.

Jolie's partner, Brad Pitt, was seen leaving the seafront Lenval hospital Wednesday morning with one of their four young children.

The hospital announced Tuesday that Jolie had checked into its Santa Maria maternity clinic to be kept under doctors' watch and rest before she gives birth.

A hospital spokeswoman said the births were "not for right away," but spokeswoman Nadine Bauer said Jolie would almost certainly stay in the clinic until then.

Nice Matin, the local newspaper, reported that Jolie has the best room in the hospital, on the fifth floor, with an "unobstructed view" over the Bay of Angels. It said she arrived by helicopter, landing Sunday afternoon on the hospital's roof. The newspaper said the actress reserved four rooms on the maternity ward, with a bodyguard keeping watch.

The Lenval hospital, a boxy-looking building with a white exterior, mirrored blue windows and set among palm trees, looks out over the sea.

The Brangelina clan has been settling into a new home in the south of France, in Correns, about 60 miles from Nice. The town's mayor confirmed that the couple had moved into the Miraval Estate villa, and a helicopter has been spotted taking off and landing from there.

[Hunter Rider]

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[Jolie_Desastre]

beautiful pictures Hunter :up:

[Two-Face]

I nearly forgot about my woman, shame on me :o :cmad:


She's so beautiful. :heart:

[The Agent]

What's sad is that I doubt we'll ever see her in the film that she was born to star in and that is a Bond film. She's unbelievably gorgeous!

[KenK]

What's sad is that I doubt we'll ever see her in the film that she was born to star in and that is a Bond film. She's unbelievably gorgeous!

Yeah, but she's too famous. A big mistake with Brosnan's Bond films after Goldeneye, they kept getting well-known actresses for Bond Girls. The best Bond Girls have been relative unknowns, with no ego are pretense to weigh the film down.

[terry78]

The only way Jolie could be in a Bond flick is if she played Bond herself.

[Hunter Rider]

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[Spider-Man Luvr28]

Brad Pitt was at Angelina Jolie's side as she gave birth to a son and daughter Saturday at the Fondation Lenval hospital in Nice, France, PEOPLE has confirmed.

"The babies are doing well. The operation went just perfectly," Dr. Michael Sussmann told PEOPLE Sunday. "Angelina is in very good spirits. Brad Pitt was at her side. He was there and all was well."

Sussmann confirmed the Nice Matin newspaper report that Jolie gave birth to a boy, Knox Leon, and a girl, Vivienne Marcheline, by Cesarean section on Saturday night. Knox weighed 5.03 lbs, and Vivienne 5 lbs.

The twins are the fifth and sixth children for Jolie, 33, and partner Brad Pitt, 44, who are already parents to Maddox, 6; Pax, 4; Zahara, 3; and Shiloh, 2. "The mother and father are very, very happy," Sussmann told PEOPLE.

The doctor told the Associated Press that the Cesarean was moved forward "for medical reasons" so that the babies could be born "in the best conditions." He also said Jolie is expected to stay in the hospital for a few days.

On July 1, Jolie checked in to the Fondation Lenval hospital to await the births. The family has been living in the south of France since this spring.

Jolie recently told Entertainment Weekly that she was surprised – but not daunted – when she learned she was having twins. "It did shock us, and we jumped to six [children] quickly," she said. "But we like a challenge."
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That's great.:D Congrats to them!:heart:

[theShape]

Although she was a tad too skinny for my tastes in Wanted, she was still bangin'. She barely had any lines. She just stood there and looked hot.

[Two-Face]

Congrats to Angie :up:

[Anubis Raptor]

Angelina Jolie + Catwoman = Greatness

[Crook]

Vivienne Marcheline? 50 bucks says she'll be the royal beauty out of all the children. :o

[Lex Luthor]

Congrats to Angie and Brad. :up:

[terry78]

Them are gonna be some good looking kids. They got like the best gene pool currently in rotation right now.

[Hunter Rider]

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[Jolie_Desastre]

GREEEaaat Pictures :up:

[Crook]

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It pains me to know that the sexiest "f**k me" face I will ever see....is in the form of a picture. :(

[Two-Face]

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I love her :up: :heart:

[jaymes_e06]

Congrats Angie and Brad~!

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

Angelina Jolie has left the French hospital where she gave birth to twins last week.

The Lenval hospital in the southern French city of Nice said in a statement on its website: “Angelina Jolie left the clinic Santa Maria of Foundation Lenval around 4AM on July 19 with her babies, Knox Leon and Vivienne Marcheline. The mother and her babies are doing very well.”

The Fondation Lenval also thanked the Jolie-Pitts for choosing the hospital. It also thanked the hospital staff “for the attention and care they paid to the family and the journalists around the hospital who did their best to respect their privacy.”

No word on where Brad, Angelina, Maddox, Pax, Zahara, Shiloh, Knox and Vivienne are headed to next…

[MaskedManJRK]

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[Hunter Rider]

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[AllThingsComic]

Just out of curiosity, Has there ever been an interview with Jolie where someone asks her about playing the role of Catwoman?

[Two-Face]

I don't think nobody did.

[Jolie_Desastre]

Saw Wanted again today. Angelina was amazing. :up:

[ComicChick]

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for some reason i like this pic

[jed.exodus.89]

doesn't any1 else think she isnt really that actrative or talented and that she would make an absolutely terrible catwoman???

[Jolie_Desastre]

some might. but not in this thread.

[Lex Luthor]

for some reason i like this pic
Yeah, I do as well.

[jaguarr]

Just out of curiosity, Has there ever been an interview with Jolie where someone asks her about playing the role of Catwoman?

Moviehole.net has a story up today about exactly that, actually. Their link is broken and won't let me read the whole story, though.

jag

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

Just out of curiosity, Has there ever been an interview with Jolie where someone asks her about playing the role of Catwoman?
I submitted this story to the Batman section buuuuut they haven't put it up yet it seems. Anyhoo..I read this last night:

The original television Catwoman, Julie Newmar, has found a chosen successor, and that woman is none other than Angelina Jolie. Speaking to The New York Daily News, Newmar said that she thought Jolie would be the perfect fit for the role if director Chis Nolan were to bring Catwoman back for the sequel to The Dark Knight.

"Angelina would own the part," said Newmar. "My industry friends tell me [she] has made inquiries about the role. I can understand how it would pique her interest. Catwoman is Batman's one true love. She's tremendously popular with women because she's both a heroine and a villainess," the 72-year-old actress noted.

With the current box-office take for The Dark Knight over $300 million, it seems likely that Warner Brothers and DC Comics would both be putting pressure on Nolan to do a third film. And speculation is running high about which of Batman's classic foes would be the right one to have appear in a third movie. With the stakes for Gotham raised so high in The Dark Knight, perhaps a villain who connects with Batman on a more personal level - such as Catwoman - would be the best possible choice.

That said, Jonathan Nolan and David Goyer have both said that at the present they aren't inclined to bring Catwoman back to the screen. Catwoman has been played by more actors than any of the Dark Knight's other enemies, with Julie Newmar, Eartha Kitt and Lee Meriwether on playing the part in the Batman television series, Michelle Pfeiffer taking up the catsuit in Batman Returns and Halle Berry playing her in 2004's Catwoman.

[Two-Face]

I would love to see Angelina Jolie taking the role and making her own. Christian Bale & Jolie in a movie hell yes!

[AllThingsComic]

I submitted this story to the Batman section buuuuut they haven't put it up yet it seems. Anyhoo..I read this last night:

The original television Catwoman, Julie Newmar, has found a chosen successor, and that woman is none other than Angelina Jolie. Speaking to The New York Daily News, Newmar said that she thought Jolie would be the perfect fit for the role if director Chis Nolan were to bring Catwoman back for the sequel to The Dark Knight.

"Angelina would own the part," said Newmar. "My industry friends tell me [she] has made inquiries about the role. I can understand how it would pique her interest. Catwoman is Batman's one true love. She's tremendously popular with women because she's both a heroine and a villainess," the 72-year-old actress noted.

With the current box-office take for The Dark Knight over $300 million, it seems likely that Warner Brothers and DC Comics would both be putting pressure on Nolan to do a third film. And speculation is running high about which of Batman's classic foes would be the right one to have appear in a third movie. With the stakes for Gotham raised so high in The Dark Knight, perhaps a villain who connects with Batman on a more personal level - such as Catwoman - would be the best possible choice.

That said, Jonathan Nolan and David Goyer have both said that at the present they aren't inclined to bring Catwoman back to the screen. Catwoman has been played by more actors than any of the Dark Knight's other enemies, with Julie Newmar, Eartha Kitt and Lee Meriwether on playing the part in the Batman television series, Michelle Pfeiffer taking up the catsuit in Batman Returns and Halle Berry playing her in 2004's Catwoman.

Thanks to all who responded. I did read that article in the Daily News the other day and laughed to myself like, someone heard me. I think with Nolans directing, and the road that this Batman franchise has taken, Angelina would kill in this role, as if almost the role has been waiting for her and her for it!

Also, sad news in the same article, Julie has a debilitating disease that is taking away her walking abilities. I hope she is doing well. That 22 inwaist and costume sure got my young curious mind flowing!!

[jaguarr]

I wouldn't get your hopes up. I don't think Nolan is very big on the Catwoman character. At all. Especially after Halle Berry and Pitof EFF'd the character name up so badly. There's probably more of a chance of the Catwoman property getting it's own reboot with Jolie in the lead than there is of her appearing in a Batman film as the character.

jag

[jaguarr]

Double post. Damn lag.

jag

[jaguarr]

LAAAAAAAAG! :cmad:

jag

[AllThingsComic]

Maybe an introduction 3/4 of the way into the next Batman then? Look at what Tommy Lee Jones and Scumacher did with 2-face, Nolan still re-did the character, and re-did it with a vengence. I don't know, I think I just want to see her with some meat on her in that cat-suit.

[AllThingsComic]

Maybe an introduction 3/4 of the way into the next Batman then? Look at what Tommy Lee Jones and Scumacher did with 2-face, Nolan still re-did the character, and re-did it with a vengence. I don't know, I think I just want to see her with some meat on her in that cat-suit.

[Two-Face]

I wouldn't get your hopes up. I don't think Nolan is very big on the Catwoman character. At all. Especially after Halle Berry and Pitof EFF'd the character name up so badly. There's probably more of a chance of the Catwoman property getting it's own reboot with Jolie in the lead than there is of her appearing in a Batman film as the character.

jag

Since Rachel died in TDK I could see them introduce just Selina Kyle in third movie.

[Hunter Rider]

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[jed.exodus.89]

jolie would b terrible. can ever1 on these boards plz stop suggesting she would b a gd choice, im beggin u, plllllllllllllllllz

[DorkyFresh]

she's the obvious choice and i used to be a strong advocate for her. if she can get her body back then i'd love for her to play Catwoman.

[Jolie_Desastre]

jolie would b terrible. can ever1 on these boards plz stop suggesting she would b a gd choice, im beggin u, plllllllllllllllllz

just about everyone in this thread supports that choice so I mean it isn't really going to change. sorry. but it'll help if you check out the catwoman threads and see other choices and make your own as well.

[Two-Face]

jolie would b terrible. can ever1 on these boards plz stop suggesting she would b a gd choice, im beggin u, plllllllllllllllllz

Everyone has their choices, you have yours and I have mine.


If you have read first page I said This is isn't about playing Catwoman, I simply put in the title cos it's her nickname


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[elgato]

Angie was born to play Catwoman, tho she's not my number one choice right now

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

They are just 3 weeks old, but twins Knox Léon and Vivienne Marcheline are about to take the world by storm.

In an exclusive interview and photos, Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie offer PEOPLE an intimate look at their growing family.

"It is chaos, but we are managing it and having a wonderful time," Jolie tells PEOPLE of daily life at the Château Miraval in Provence, France, where the couple's four older children – Maddox, 6, Pax, 4, Zahara, 3, and Shiloh, 2 – have been enjoying a summer of outdoor play (hide-and-seek is a favorite) on the château's sprawling grounds.

Adds Pitt: "[It's] still a cuckoo's nest."

Fortunately, they already have some household helpers. "[Shiloh] and Z pick out [the twins'] clothes and help change and hold them," says Jolie. "It's sweet – they are little mommies."

Good dad Brad, meanwhile, confides: “Viv is proving to resemble Ange in spirit, attitude and physicality… And Knox, he’s a bit of me.”

For the complete story, including 19 pages of intimate family photos and the full interview with Brad and Angelina, pick up this week's issue of PEOPLE, on newsstands Monday.

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Adorable! :D:heart:


Another pic:

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[Jolie_Desastre]

Omg!!! :D^^^

[cptjack]

Angelina would make a great Wonder Woman!

[jaymes_e06]

No she must play Selina Kyle/Catwoman. And congrats Angie and Brad for having two healthy children.

[Hunter Rider]

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[SapphirePrima]

Pax needs a haircut. :(


But yeah, I wish they waited a few more months, a few week old babies all look the same.

But the whole family looks great except Pax with that hair.

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

It took me a sec to realize it was Pax in the pic. I thought it was some random person.:o

Anyhoo, the rest of the pics look great. Another baby with Jolie lips.:D:up: Shiloh holding the baby melted my heart. She's a doll. :heart:
Thanks for posting the pics.

[Jolie_Desastre]

Those pictures are too precious :O

[Two-Face]

Nice pictures :up:

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[Spider-Man Luvr28]

Brad & Ange didn't just share photos (worth a reported $14 million) with Hello! magazine, the superstar couple also opened up about babies and raising their ever-expanding brood.

- On how the family is adjusting to the twins' arrival:
"Shiloh calls them her babies," says Jolie. "She and Z pick out their clothes and help change and hold them."

"It's sweet–they are little mommies," Pitt adds, "This is Mad's fourth/fifth time becoming an older bro. He's asking us when we can have more."

- How Brangelina reacted when they found out they were expecting twins:
"We were in shock and could not stop laughing," says Angie.

- Brangelina on the birth:
When he first saw Knox, and Vivienne a minute later, Pitt felt "An awe words fail to describe."

"I knew they would be premature, so when I saw they were big and screaming with healthy lungs, I was at peace," Jolie says.

- On the twins:
"Viv is proving to resemble Ange in spirit, attitude and physicality," says Pitt. "And Knox, a bit of me."

- Why they chose Vivienne Marcheline and Knox Leon:
"The name Vivienne came to us early, as if she named herself — she has always been Viv. And Marcheline is to honor Angie's mother," says Brad. "Knox came soon after. It is a family name, my grandfather's. Léon is a classic French name."

- On Angie's late mother, Marcheline:
"My mom loved being a mom and made sure her children knew every day how much joy we brought to her. I hope to give that to my kids."

[Hunter Rider]

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[Two-Face]

I love that from Mr & Mrs Smith movie :heart:

[KenK]

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BIONIC, BIONIC SIX!!!

You know I couldn't help it! :woot:

[Two-Face]

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[The Major]

Maybe an introduction 3/4 of the way into the next Batman then? Look at what Tommy Lee Jones and Scumacher did with 2-face, Nolan still re-did the character, and re-did it with a vengence. I don't know, I think I just want to see her with some meat on her in that cat-suit.

If Angelina really wants to treat the role seriously she shouldn't be going to porn stars for advice on the character she should be talking to Michelle Phiefer, watch Batman:TAS and read the Brubaker/Phieffer Catwoman comics.

[Hunter Rider]

If Angelina really wants to treat the role seriously she shouldn't be going to porn stars for advice on the character she should be talking to Michelle Phiefer, watch Batman:TAS and read the Brubaker/Phieffer Catwoman comics.

Where did you get this from ? :huh:

[Dark Victory]

Where did you get this from ? :huh:


It was on Yahoo.

[Hunter Rider]

It was on Yahoo.Link ?

[Two-Face]

It was on imdb also.


It's BS,

[Hunter Rider]

Who was she supposed to have talked to ?

[Two-Face]

http://www.entertainmentwise.com/news/44308/angelina-jolie-asks-porn-star-for-catwoman-advice

[Hunter Rider]

:lmao: Amazing that this is the first we have heard of Angie and Tera Patrick being buddies, geez the tabloids are getting slow these days. :hehe:

[Two-Face]

Exactly, it's media BS.

[jaguarr]

Yeah, some obscure entertainment gossip website sure got the scoop on the rest of the entertainment media. :rolleyes: I have a feeling Jolie's going to have her hands full with the Edwina Salt franchise, anyway.

jag

[Crook]

It's a franchise? I thought it was just one film? She's really playing into the action mold again...

[Two-Face]

Is Changeling good? this movie is not released until 2nd January 2009 :cmad;

[jaguarr]

It's a franchise? I thought it was just one film? She's really playing into the action mold again...

Moviehole was saying that Sony is eyeing it as a potential franchise.

jag

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, some obscure entertainment gossip website sure got the scoop on the rest of the entertainment media. :rolleyes: I have a feeling Jolie's going to have her hands full with the Edwina Salt franchise, anyway.

jag

Well given how long it will probably take Nolan to get onto the next Batman movie that may not effect it.

It's a franchise? I thought it was just one film? She's really playing into the action mold again...

Rumour today from one site was that it could become a franchise, of course she has The Changeling later this year and Atlas Shrugged to break up her action projects.

[Hunter Rider]

Is Changeling good? this movie is not released until 2nd January 2009 :cmad;

It got great reviews at Cannes, it's out in October in the US.

[jaguarr]

Well given how long it will probably take Nolan to get onto the next Batman movie that may not effect it.


Maybe. If Salt gets underway soon and a sequel is greenlit it could conceivably create conflicts with another Bat flick. I don't know if Nolan will bother with Catwoman, though. He's said to hate the character.

jag

[Two-Face]

It's not out in UK until January, I'm hoping it would be good as The Good Shepherd or A Mighty Heart.

[Two-Face]

Maybe. If Salt gets underway soon and a sequel is greenlit it could conceivably create conflicts with another Bat flick. I don't know if Nolan will bother with Catwoman, though. He's said to hate the character.

jag



He didn't say in that order.

[jaguarr]

He didn't say in that order.

I seem to remember reading he really didn't like the character but have no idea where I saw it, of course. I know they haven't started on a script, but it will be interesting to see where they take the series. I know he's big on personal growth and challenge for Bruce Wayne, as is Bale. There has to be a growth arc of some kind in there. They've set the stage for Batman to be very much at odds with law enforcement with the second one and they've killed off Rachel, leaving ripe territory to explore with a female interloper like Catwoman who tests Bruce's inner resolve, tempting him to turn to his darker side, as well as play a love interest for him further complicating his inner conflicts. Could play well if done right, but there would need to be another antagonist to provide some sort of dire, outside pressure that ultimately brings him back to defending the innocent. I'm having trouble thinking of any other Bats villains that are compelling enough for that. Riddler isn't. Clayface isn't. Ra's Al Ghul has already been done. And with Ledger gone, it makes exploring the Joker character further a bit difficult. I'm looking forward to seeing what they cook up because they've set a huge, heavy bar to surpass with this last film and I think they know it. Whatever they do is going to have to be compelling as hell, and I'm not certain the Catwoman character can bring enough to the story or not.

jag

[Hunter Rider]

Maybe. If Salt gets underway soon and a sequel is greenlit it could conceivably create conflicts with another Bat flick. I don't know if Nolan will bother with Catwoman, though. He's said to hate the character.

jag

The start date for Salt is Feb 2009so combine filming and trhen promoting it, that would leave her ready for a 2010 start on Batman.

I seem to remember reading he really didn't like the character but have no idea where I saw it, of course. I know they haven't started on a script, but it will be interesting to see where they take the series. I know he's big on personal growth and challenge for Bruce Wayne, as is Bale. There has to be a growth arc of some kind in there. They've set the stage for Batman to be very much at odds with law enforcement with the second one and they've killed off Rachel, leaving ripe territory to explore with a female interloper like Catwoman who tests Bruce's inner resolve, tempting him to turn to his darker side, as well as play a love interest for him further complicating his inner conflicts. Could play well if done right, but there would need to be another antagonist to provide some sort of dire, outside pressure that ultimately brings him back to defending the innocent. I'm having trouble thinking of any other Bats villains that are compelling enough for that. Riddler isn't. Clayface isn't. Ra's Al Ghul has already been done. And with Ledger gone, it makes exploring the Joker character further a bit difficult. I'm looking forward to seeing what they cook up because they've set a huge, heavy bar to surpass with this last film and I think they know it. Whatever they do is going to have to be compelling as hell, and I'm not certain the Catwoman character can bring enough to the story or not.

jag

Except for The Joker i think Catwoman has the most complex and interesting rivalry/relationship with Batman in his entire mythos. The idea she could be a female version of him but uses her skills for self gain on occasions makes for interesting conflict, the fact he loves her and yet has to take her down adds another layer, more so in the third Batman movie b/c she'd be his first emotional attachment since the death of Rachel. I also think if done as a serial killer The Riddler would work fine as the lead villain.

[Crook]

I seem to remember reading he really didn't like the character but have no idea where I saw it, of course. I know they haven't started on a script, but it will be interesting to see where they take the series. I know he's big on personal growth and challenge for Bruce Wayne, as is Bale. There has to be a growth arc of some kind in there. They've set the stage for Batman to be very much at odds with law enforcement with the second one and they've killed off Rachel, leaving ripe territory to explore with a female interloper like Catwoman who tests Bruce's inner resolve, tempting him to turn to his darker side, as well as play a love interest for him further complicating his inner conflicts. Could play well if done right, but there would need to be another antagonist to provide some sort of dire, outside pressure that ultimately brings him back to defending the innocent. I'm having trouble thinking of any other Bats villains that are compelling enough for that. Riddler isn't. Clayface isn't. Ra's Al Ghul has already been done. And with Ledger gone, it makes exploring the Joker character further a bit difficult. I'm looking forward to seeing what they cook up because they've set a huge, heavy bar to surpass with this last film and I think they know it. Whatever they do is going to have to be compelling as hell, and I'm not certain the Catwoman character can bring enough to the story or not.

jag
You'd be hard-pressed to find any female counterpart that can provide more to the story of Batman, than Catwoman. Besides, she was never an antagonist. Just a very important supporting character along the lines of Gordon and Alfred.


Rumour today from one site was that it could become a franchise, of course she has The Changeling later this year and Atlas Shrugged to break up her action projects.
Yeah I'm looking forward to those, but inevitably her action films will garner more attention. I hope she gets some recognition for 'Changeling' btw, I'm really tired of seeing "Jolie can't act" comments all over these forums. :o

[jaguarr]

The start date for Salt is Feb 2009so combine filming and trhen promoting it, that would leave her ready for a 2010 start on Batman.

Only if Nolan's ready to go with the next Batman at that point. There's the rub.


Except for The Joker i think Catwoman has the most complex and interesting rivalry/relationship with Batman in his entire mythos. The idea she could be a female version of him but uses her skills for self gain on occasions makes for interesting conflict, the fact he loves her and yet has to take her down adds another layer, more so in the third Batman movie b/c she'd be his first emotional attachment since the death of Rachel. I also think if done as a serial killer The Riddler would work fine as the lead villain.

Too similar to the Joker in a lot of movie-goers eyes, unfortunately. If they found a way to really make the character distinguished enough from the Joker, it might be able to work. People STILL have a bad taste from Jim Carrey's rendition of that character too, though. :(



You'd be hard-pressed to find any female counterpart that can provide more to the story of Batman, than Catwoman. Besides, she was never an antagonist. Just a very important supporting character along the lines of Gordon and Alfred.

That's...why I said you'd need another...antagonist. :huh:
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jag

[Two_Face]

I definitely think we need to see the Riddler because while Carrey was funny, he was a horrible Ridder. If not the Riddler and Catwoman, maybe the Riddler, Killer Croc, and Two-Face.

[jaguarr]

In order for the relevance of "The Dark Knight" to remain intact (remember Harvey's line about "Either you die the hero or you live long enough to become the villain"?), Two-Face has to remain dead. If they bring him back, it completely destroys the philosophical underpinnings of the second film.

jag

[Two_Face]

Eh, the point was that he became corrupted. No where in his speech did he say you become the villain and die. It'd make more than enough sense if he returned and continued to do what he thought was fair/right.

[jaguarr]

Eh, the point was that he became corrupted. No where in his speech did he say you become the villain and die. It'd make more than enough sense if he returned and continued to do what he thought was fair/right.

Apparently you and I did not watch the same film.

jag

[Two_Face]

Apparently, we did, but you didn't comprehend it well.

[Crook]

The symbolism of "you either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain" plays out whether Harvey lives or not. It's his fall from grace that's important, so as long as his new persona arises from it.

[jaguarr]

Apparently, we did, but you didn't comprehend it well.

The entire crux of the film hangs on the idea of society needing a true hero. One that is incorruptible and genuine. The character of Harvey Dent and his idealism and unwavering fight for justice no matter the cost represent that. Bruce Wayne sees in Dent the potential for him to cease being the Batman because of the toll it takes on him, constantly having to play the part of the hero and facing his inner demons night in and night out. Harvey is the legitimate and legal manifestation of everything Bruce wants for society. Harvey's line about "You either die the hero or live long enough to become the villain" underscores the duality of the role of upholding justice and is something that also makes Bruce reconsider the role he has been playing even more, seeing that a true hero for Gotham has come in the form of Harvey Dent; a man able to legally stop crime and make the city safe from corruption. When Dent is burned and Rachel is killed, it fractures his mind into two personalities altogether, continuing the theme of duality that runs through the film. He in effect becomes the villain rather than the hero, just as he had always feared. When Dent dies, Bruce realizes that it is better for Dent to remain the hero where the people of Gotham are concerned because of what he represented to them; a single beacon of hope that there are people who will stand up for what is right far brighter than Batman could ever hope to shine. So, Bruce demands that Gordon put the deaths of those people on Batman's hands so that Dent dies a hero instead of a villain, thereby keeping his heroic legacy intact for the people of Gotham to hold in high regard; that one bit of hope they found in what Dent was and what he represented. Now Batman becomes the villain where he was the hero before, just as Harvey's line indicated. Gordon understands this and orders the batsignal destroyed and Batman to be hunted for those killings. To bring Two-Face back to life undoes all of that.

Now what was your interpretation? :)

jag

[Two_Face]

*yawn* As I said, there's much more that could be done to the character. The whole point of him being in TDK was to show that even a decent man could fall if pushed to the edge. That does not mean in any way he has to die or that if he's brought back it makes the end of TDK pointless. Truthfully, bringing him back would be virtually the only way to get Gotham to trust Batman and to show that he really didn't break his one rule.

[The Major]

I seem to remember reading he really didn't like the character but have no idea where I saw it, of course. I know they haven't started on a script, but it will be interesting to see where they take the series. I know he's big on personal growth and challenge for Bruce Wayne, as is Bale. There has to be a growth arc of some kind in there. They've set the stage for Batman to be very much at odds with law enforcement with the second one and they've killed off Rachel, leaving ripe territory to explore with a female interloper like Catwoman who tests Bruce's inner resolve, tempting him to turn to his darker side, as well as play a love interest for him further complicating his inner conflicts. Could play well if done right, but there would need to be another antagonist to provide some sort of dire, outside pressure that ultimately brings him back to defending the innocent. I'm having trouble thinking of any other Bats villains that are compelling enough for that. Riddler isn't. Clayface isn't. Ra's Al Ghul has already been done. And with Ledger gone, it makes exploring the Joker character further a bit difficult. I'm looking forward to seeing what they cook up because they've set a huge, heavy bar to surpass with this last film and I think they know it. Whatever they do is going to have to be compelling as hell, and I'm not certain the Catwoman character can bring enough to the story or not.

jag

They could bring in Talia. Jolie would fit her better then Selina Kyle.

They've already set her up with Batman Begins.

[AllThingsComic]

They could bring in Talia. Jolie would fit her better then Selina Kyle.

They've already set her up with Batman Begins.

I was thinking the same thing.

[Hunter Rider]

Only if Nolan's ready to go with the next Batman at that point. There's the rub.

Well it fits the 3 year window between the first 2 films, but of course that could change.


Too similar to the Joker in a lot of movie-goers eyes, unfortunately. If they found a way to really make the character distinguished enough from the Joker, it might be able to work. People STILL have a bad taste from Jim Carrey's rendition of that character too, though. :(


It would be a challenge no doubt, but i think the Riddle aspect could provide a different kind of cat and mouse game if the Nolan's can work their magic again, especially if they take out the mob element, of course leaving the mob element in would allow the Penguin into the mix but how much Nolan would be able to differentiate him from the other mob bosses would hinge on how far he would be willing to eschew "realism".
Heh, Having that Carrey performance as the only representation of the Riddler on a movie screen is half the reason Nolan needs to use him. :woot:

The entire crux of the film hangs on the idea of society needing a true hero. One that is incorruptible and genuine. The character of Harvey Dent and his idealism and unwavering fight for justice no matter the cost represent that. Bruce Wayne sees in Dent the potential for him to cease being the Batman because of the toll it takes on him, constantly having to play the part of the hero and facing his inner demons night in and night out. Harvey is the legitimate and legal manifestation of everything Bruce wants for society. Harvey's line about "You either die the hero or live long enough to become the villain" underscores the duality of the role of upholding justice and is something that also makes Bruce reconsider the role he has been playing even more, seeing that a true hero for Gotham has come in the form of Harvey Dent; a man able to legally stop crime and make the city safe from corruption. When Dent is burned and Rachel is killed, it fractures his mind into two personalities altogether, continuing the theme of duality that runs through the film. He in effect becomes the villain rather than the hero, just as he had always feared. When Dent dies, Bruce realizes that it is better for Dent to remain the hero where the people of Gotham are concerned because of what he represented to them; a single beacon of hope that there are people who will stand up for what is right far brighter than Batman could ever hope to shine. So, Bruce demands that Gordon put the deaths of those people on Batman's hands so that Dent dies a hero instead of a villain, thereby keeping his heroic legacy intact for the people of Gotham to hold in high regard; that one bit of hope they found in what Dent was and what he represented. Now Batman becomes the villain where he was the hero before, just as Harvey's line indicated. Gordon understands this and orders the batsignal destroyed and Batman to be hunted for those killings. To bring Two-Face back to life undoes all of that.

Now what was your interpretation? :)

jag

Very well put Jag, he died a hero b/c Batman covered up the fact that he lived long enough to become the villain, of course he could be stashed away in arkham to maintain that front but all the reports say he is dead.

[Two_Face]

Until Nolan says whether or not he'll return, I'm just going to leave it at the fact he could be brought back easily or could just be dead.

[Two-Face]

Well it fits the 3 year window between the first 2 films, but of course that could change.




It would be a challenge no doubt, but i think the Riddle aspect could provide a different kind of cat and mouse game if the Nolan's can work their magic again, especially if they take out the mob element, of course leaving the mob element in would allow the Penguin into the mix but how much Nolan would be able to differentiate him from the other mob bosses would hinge on how far he would be willing to eschew "realism".
Heh, Having that Carrey performance as the only representation of the Riddler on a movie screen is half the reason Nolan needs to use him. :woot:



Very well put Jag, he died a hero b/c Batman covered up the fact that he lived long enough to become the villain, of course he could be stashed away in arkham to maintain that front but all the reports say he is dead.

How Gordon would keep this secret from the public, if Two-Face escapes from Arkham and will the public trust the new commissioner?

[Two_Face]

Well, who's to say they'd even find out all of the details? He escapes, becomes a vigilante of sorts by killing off criminals like he's done in some comics, the public finds out, Batman's name is cleared, slap in another villain to work with Two-Face and it could work, I'm sure of it.

[jaguarr]

*yawn* As I said, there's much more that could be done to the character. The whole point of him being in TDK was to show that even a decent man could fall if pushed to the edge. That does not mean in any way he has to die or that if he's brought back it makes the end of TDK pointless. Truthfully, bringing him back would be virtually the only way to get Gotham to trust Batman and to show that he really didn't break his one rule.

Yeah, you didn't understand the philosophical underpinnings of the film. Maybe you should watch it again.
jag

[jaguarr]

They could bring in Talia. Jolie would fit her better then Selina Kyle.

They've already set her up with Batman Begins.

Now that could work.

jag

[The Major]

How Gordon would keep this secret from the public, if Two-Face escapes from Arkham and will the public trust the new commissioner?

They could make a great film just from that premise.

I hope they do bring Two-Face back.

[jaguarr]

Well it fits the 3 year window between the first 2 films, but of course that could change.

Just knowing how things work in Tinseltown, plus the possible SAG strike, I'm thinking it could cause some potential overlap that would create some scheduling problems is all.


It would be a challenge no doubt, but i think the Riddle aspect could provide a different kind of cat and mouse game if the Nolan's can work their magic again, especially if they take out the mob element, of course leaving the mob element in would allow the Penguin into the mix but how much Nolan would be able to differentiate him from the other mob bosses would hinge on how far he would be willing to eschew "realism".
Heh, Having that Carrey performance as the only representation of the Riddler on a movie screen is half the reason Nolan needs to use him. :woot:

I really hope they avoid the Penguin character. I have never liked that character as a villain in any capacity. The Riddler would have to have a very fresh take on the character to make it work. If done well enough and realistically enough (I like your serial killer twist), he could serve as a good antagonist to pull Bruce back from the edge while he's questioning his own integrity and commitment to justice thanks to the introduction of Talia or Selina into the equation (because really, either one of those characters could serve that purpose in that kind of a story arc). Then the third film becomes about reassessing one's inner demons, accepting them and harnessing them to do what is right rather than wrong and reaffirming commitment to that after dancing on the edge of going the wrong way, and finally redemption through stopping another great evil in the world. They've set the stage for Bruce to be on the run from the law in the third film. Bringing Talia or Selina into the mix as sort of a temptation and bad influence that makes him question his resolve (the public hatred of Batman following the events in the second film could also be played up to be causing him trouble in continuing to do what he does as Batman) would challenge all that he's stood for and tempt him to cross lines he drew a long time ago. The Riddler shows up and suddenly he's got to make a choice and go one way or the other; either let the Riddler continue his madness or help stop him after Gordon reaches out to him for help in stopping someone who's too clever to be caught and frustrating the police with all these taunts and riddles. In the end, both Bruce and Batman find inner resolution and redemption by stopping the Riddler, which causes the public to reach an unsteady truce of sorts with Batman. Not forgiveness, but an understanding that he's a necessary evil. He also learns to break away from temptation and Talia or Selina gets away in the end, of course, leaving the bittersweet sting of love had and lost but sacrificed for the greater good.

Very well put Jag, he died a hero b/c Batman covered up the fact that he lived long enough to become the villain, of course he could be stashed away in arkham to maintain that front but all the reports say he is dead.

Exactly. And, Batman DOES live long enough to become the villain so to speak so that Harvey can die the hero. The spirit of Harvey's "White Knight", even when Harvey is dead after snapping and doing these horrible things, is more important than Batman being a hero even though he's still alive. I think killing Two-Face so that can never be undone was the Nolan's intention as it puts a much finer point on the philosophical underpinning of the film (and sets the stage for the third one).

How Gordon would keep this secret from the public, if Two-Face escapes from Arkham and will the public trust the new commissioner?

That's a good point and I don't know that Nolan would want to explore a public lacking in trust of their new Commisioner, who is supposed to be one of the few uncorruptable cops in the city, cleaning up the force and restoring order. It could make for an interesting dynamic but it would be a footnote to the larger story and maybe not worth pursuing because of the impact it would make to the second film's philosophical crux.

jag

[The Major]

Jag:

They could save Two-Face's return for the forth movie. If Nolan leaves after 3 I hope they hire a worthy replacement to continue his universe.

[jaguarr]

Jag:

They could save Two-Face's return for the forth movie. If Nolan leaves after 3 I hope they hire a worthy replacement to continue his universe.

Well, it's certainly not an impossibility to bring him back (he just got hurt in the fall rather than killed and was put in Arkham to hide him away from the public and keep him from doing more wrong). I just really feel that doing so would destroy the entire message of the second film, which was beautifully crafted and set up. It's really pristine on it's own and I'd hate to see it tainted by a follow-on.

jag

[Crook]

There are actually several pages of discussion in the Batman forums discussing that very topic, jag. Now, it's more or less discussing which is the better route to take that symbolism set up by the film, rather than which one works.

[jaguarr]

I avoid the Bat Forums. ;)

jag

[Crook]

Ah. Didn't realize jaguars had chiroptophobia. ;)

[jaguarr]

Ah. Didn't realize jaguars had chiroptophobia. ;)

Haha! No, we generally just have an aversion to stupidity. :D

jag

[Two-Face]

I can't wait for this movie, least she's not doing a action movie.

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And Eastwood is badass.

[Dave McFly]

I can't wait for this movie, least she's not doing a action movie.

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And Eastwood is badass.

uh the get smart movie?
:huh:

[Dark Victory]

I can't wait for this movie, least she's not doing a action movie.

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And Eastwood is badass.

:huh:

I think you put in the wrong trailer.

[Hunter Rider]

Just knowing how things work in Tinseltown, plus the possible SAG strike, I'm thinking it could cause some potential overlap that would create some scheduling problems is all.

Well now it appears Jolie is not doing Salt at all.



I really hope they avoid the Penguin character. I have never liked that character as a villain in any capacity. The Riddler would have to have a very fresh take on the character to make it work. If done well enough and realistically enough (I like your serial killer twist), he could serve as a good antagonist to pull Bruce back from the edge while he's questioning his own integrity and commitment to justice thanks to the introduction of Talia or Selina into the equation (because really, either one of those characters could serve that purpose in that kind of a story arc). Then the third film becomes about reassessing one's inner demons, accepting them and harnessing them to do what is right rather than wrong and reaffirming commitment to that after dancing on the edge of going the wrong way, and finally redemption through stopping another great evil in the world. They've set the stage for Bruce to be on the run from the law in the third film. Bringing Talia or Selina into the mix as sort of a temptation and bad influence that makes him question his resolve (the public hatred of Batman following the events in the second film could also be played up to be causing him trouble in continuing to do what he does as Batman) would challenge all that he's stood for and tempt him to cross lines he drew a long time ago. The Riddler shows up and suddenly he's got to make a choice and go one way or the other; either let the Riddler continue his madness or help stop him after Gordon reaches out to him for help in stopping someone who's too clever to be caught and frustrating the police with all these taunts and riddles. In the end, both Bruce and Batman find inner resolution and redemption by stopping the Riddler, which causes the public to reach an unsteady truce of sorts with Batman. Not forgiveness, but an understanding that he's a necessary evil. He also learns to break away from temptation and Talia or Selina gets away in the end, of course, leaving the bittersweet sting of love had and lost but sacrificed for the greater good.

:up: That pretty much covers the way you can simultaneously use Catwoman and The Riddler to great effect and keep the central journey of the movie Bruce's. As for The Penguin, have you not liked him in any of the more recent books ?


Exactly. And, Batman DOES live long enough to become the villain so to speak so that Harvey can die the hero. The spirit of Harvey's "White Knight", even when Harvey is dead after snapping and doing these horrible things, is more important than Batman being a hero even though he's still alive. I think killing Two-Face so that can never be undone was the Nolan's intention as it puts a much finer point on the philosophical underpinning of the film (and sets the stage for the third one).


I agree, while i wouldn't rule out the idea he's stashed away in Arkham, I am leaning more towards him being dead the more i think about it.

[jaguarr]

Well now it appears Jolie is not doing Salt at all.

Haven't seen any rumors on that. Where'd you hear it?



:up: That pretty much covers the way you can simultaneously use Catwoman and The Riddler to great effect and keep the central journey of the movie Bruce's. As for The Penguin, have you not liked him in any of the more recent books ?

I haven't read the recent books, but I have ALWAYS hated the Penguin. He's just such a lame-ass character to me.


I agree, while i wouldn't rule out the idea he's stashed away in Arkham, I am leaning more towards him being dead the more i think about it.

Yeah, Harvey being dead makes the second film much more poignant and poetic, IMHO.

jag

[Two_Face]

I still say let Two-Face return, and maybe introduce the Riddler and Catwoman as well.

[Two-Face]

:huh:

I think you put in the wrong trailer.

uh the get smart movie?
:huh:


I'm sorry about that, This is what I wanted show

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[Spider-Man Luvr28]

Roseanne has taken to her website (which is down right now - probably due to her publicist!) to spout off about Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie and how dumb she thinks they are!

According to Us Weekly, she titled the post "Jon Voight" and went on to skewer the actor's daughter by saying:

"Your evil spawn Angelina Jolie and her vacuous hubby Brad Pitt make about $40 million a year in violent, psychopathic movies and give away three of it to starving children, trying to look as if they give a crap about humanity as they spit out more dunces that will consume more than their fair share and wreck the earth even more."
She goes on to attack Jolie for telling the media she's undecided on a presidential candidate:
"Miss Jolie says she likes [John] McCain too and hasn't decided who to endorse....huh?" Roseanne writes. "Aren't you supposed to be somewhat enlightened, or do you not know that the African daughter you hold in every picture had parents who suffered and died because of the Republican party's worldwide economic assault on Africa over the last few decades since Reagan? ... It might be good for your Asian and African children's self-esteem to know you support [Barack Obama] for the leader of the free world."

And to wrap it up ...

"Now go back to making your movies about women who love to handle big guns that shoot hundreds of people to death."

[jaguarr]

Roseanne hasn't been relevant in twenty years and even then it was marginal. Tom Arnold probably knows just how lucky he was to get away from her.

jag

[Jolie_Desastre]

And how much money do you donate to starving children around the world Roseanne? That's right, STFD.

At least she found a way to make herself known again, diss the most famous couple in hollywood. Good job.

[Two-Face]

Roseanne who? :whatever:

[Hunter Rider]

Roseanne always struck me as hygienically challenged,

[Two-Face]

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[Spider-Man Luvr28]

After Roseanne Barr blasted Angelina Jolie and her father Jon Voight, the Midnight Cowboy actor responded to Barr via Extra. Jon’s response is below:

“Answer to Roseanne Barr’s Rant:

We can never be surprised at what vile evil comes from the mouth of a confessed victim of child abuse at the hands of her own parents.

Her parents responded to the accusation by going on the air and slating she is a psychopathic liar and her sister agreed.

Her defaming of our National Anthem in 1990 gave us insight into who she is and what she is capable of saying and doing.

My allegiance to Senator McCain becomes stronger with any assault that tries to deter my loyalty to him.

I can only pray that good people see her for what she is (sick of mind).

-Jon Voight”

[Hobgoblin]

He handled it with class. :up:

[Pluto]

I'm just not a fan of hers....

[Ziggyman]

Angie!:woot:

[Two-Face]

I'm just not a fan of hers....

Oh I'm a BIG fan.:grin:

[michephantom]

VERY off topic, but Clint Eastwood is a composer?? (from what was said in the video)

[MaskedManJRK]

After Roseanne Barr blasted Angelina Jolie and her father Jon Voight, the Midnight Cowboy actor responded to Barr via Extra. Jon’s response is below:

“Answer to Roseanne Barr’s Rant:

We can never be surprised at what vile evil comes from the mouth of a confessed victim of child abuse at the hands of her own parents.

Her parents responded to the accusation by going on the air and slating she is a psychopathic liar and her sister agreed.

Her defaming of our National Anthem in 1990 gave us insight into who she is and what she is capable of saying and doing.

My allegiance to Senator McCain becomes stronger with any assault that tries to deter my loyalty to him.

I can only pray that good people see her for what she is (sick of mind).

-Jon Voight”

Youch--bringing up her family sounds a bit much. Two reasons:

1. It's just not even remotely classy, which is what you really need to do when you have idiots like Barr attack you--going to her level will just make it more drawn out then before.

2. Because of using her parents, Barr can retaliate by going on his parenting record.

[Hunter Rider]

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[Hunter Rider]

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http://i36.tinypic.com/11ub96p.jpg

[jaymes_e06]

^Good God woman you are hot!

[Crook]

Cot dayum one of her hottest photo shoots ever. Jolie please come back to that. :(

[Ziggyman]

Oh Lordy!

[Hunter Rider]

http://i36.tinypic.com/2m2jk8j.jpg

[elgato]

Saw Wanted Yesterday!!! Omg Omg Omg!!!!! She's Flaaaaaaming Hottt

[jaymes_e06]

Is that a new pic HR?

[Hunter Rider]

Is that a new pic HR?

From last year i think.

[Hunter Rider]

http://i34.tinypic.com/ri87md.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/9baw4m.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/2wnpgmw.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/2utje53.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/jakzg1.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/2cxtc44.jpg

[jaymes_e06]

http://i33.tinypic.com/jakzg1.jpg



That is one of the hottest pictures I've seen of her. :bh:

[Hunter Rider]

http://i36.tinypic.com/281e8gh.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/ab35hl.jpg

[jaguarr]

Remember that big debate we had in here awhile back about whether Two-Face was dead or not? :)

http://www.superherohype.com/news/featuresnews.php?id=7641

Aaron Eckhart on Two-Face
Source:Heather Newgen
September 4, 2008


SPOILER ALERT!: The following article spoils certain aspects of The Dark Knight. If you have not seen the movie, turn back now!

Yes, it's true. Aaron Eckhart says goodbye to Batman. At the press day for his upcoming indie film Towelhead, ComingSoon.net/Superhero Hype! talked to the actor who portrayed Harvey Dent/Two-Face in The Dark Knight. He told us he's definitely not signed on for another film and confirmed his character is dead.

Eckhart laughed about how he tried to ask if there was a chance he was coming back and was good-humored about the deadly fate of Dent.

CS/SHH!: Is Harvey Dent alive?
Aaron Eckhart: No. He is dead as a door nail.

CS/SHH!: So he's not coming back?
Eckhart: He ain't coming back baby!

CS/SHH!: I was hoping he would.
Eckhart: No. I asked Chris [Nolan] that question and he goes, "You're dead" before I could even get the question out of my mouth. "Hey Chris, am I?" "You're dead!" Alright, cool.

CS/SHH!: That's not a problem in comic book movies. You could still come back.
Eckhart: I think in contract negotiations it's a problem.

CS/SHH!: So you were never signed on for another film?
Eckhart: No, I'm not coming back. I think unfortunately, Heath [Ledger] was supposed to go on and that didn't work out. I'm nobody. I'm a cog. I have no say over this sort of stuff. I'm sure that there's so many other characters that they could whip together. I heard Angelina Jolie was going to be Catwoman or something like that. I thought that was a great idea. I'd like to be in that one.

CS/SHH!: It must be gratifying that so many people responded to your character.
Eckhart: Yeah, I dig it. Write your Congressman. I like that for the first time in my career I'm getting fan mail from kids and 8-year-olds. "My name is Bill. I really liked the film." I've never had that before. I think that's fun. I think someone told me they're going to be Harvey Two-Face for Halloween which is cool. I said to two kids the other day, "Did you see Batman yet?" Then I come to find out like two seconds later they've seen it four times. People are really going back to see it. My parents saw it I think 12 [times] so far. They're sick that it's going out of the theaters.

CS/SHH!: Do they normally see your movies 12 times?
Eckhart: I don't know about 12, but they like to go see the movies. They like to go see the audience. They like to tell people that I'm in the movie like popcorn people.

jag

[Dark Victory]

http://i38.tinypic.com/ab35hl.jpg


:wow:

[sexybabe]

wow i really like this lady!! she's awesome.. she's the best hollywood actress for me. she's very flexible on every role she portrait!

[Two-Face]

wow i really like this lady!! she's awesome.. she's the best hollywood actress for me. she's very flexible on every role she portrait!


I agree.:hehe: :up:

[ComicChick]

anyone catch that thing on VH1 this week about stars and some of the "before they were stars" stuff they did, like cheesy roles, commercials, etc?

i didn't know she was in one of Voight's films as a kid. she was sooo cute, and blonde :wow:

also, i saw her on Inside the Actors Studio a while back (a rerun but still), she'd be a fun person to have a conversation with :up:

[jaymes_e06]

Bisexual relationships aren't out ot the question for her and really funny and outgoing personality. Damn right she would be a nice conversation.

[[A]]

[http://i38.tinypic.com/2wnpgmw.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/2utje53.jpg
Absolutely my two favourite pics of her (and I'm not a big fan of Jolie..)

[Hunter Rider]

http://i35.tinypic.com/29gl8ug.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/14kxsn6.jpg

[Two-Face]

Cool pics :heart: HR.

[terry78]

I like how every other picture of her looks like she's on the verge of having an orgasm.

[Hunter Rider]

http://i36.tinypic.com/wqvtb4.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/4vhax2.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/2m796pi.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/k50ccg.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/30j634w.jpg

[Hunter Rider]

http://i34.tinypic.com/1zv75vk.jpg

[Eggyman]

Oh the things I would do to that :o

[Two-Face]

Oh the things I would do to that :o

You can't.:cmad:

[Eggyman]

You can't.:cmad:

Settle down, faces. You'd still be able to fap over her :)

[Two-Face]

http://i36.tinypic.com/wqvtb4.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/4vhax2.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/2m796pi.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/k50ccg.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/30j634w.jpg



She's beautiful....:wow: :heart:

Takes my breath away...

[jaymes_e06]

OMG~! Thoughs new or older? Either way she is gorgeous!

[Two-Face]

I think it's a new picture.

[Poetic Chaos]

Super Realistic Angelina Doll :wow:
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k102/JackJob/AngelinaDoll2.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k102/JackJob/AngelinaDoll1.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1053243/The-2-000-Angelina-Jolie-doll-thats-lifelike-creepy.html

[Jolie_Desastre]

holy crap! :wow:

[Two-Face]

If anyone is wondering who was private bidder was, it's certainly not me.

[Hunter Rider]

http://i37.tinypic.com/2ljgh1f.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/16k2vbr.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/2vshm38.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/f5d7km.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/w7gdna.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/33erdjt.jpg

[Jolie_Desastre]

She looks so beautiful in those pictures. Loving the dark hair.

[Two-Face]

http://i37.tinypic.com/2ljgh1f.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/16k2vbr.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/2vshm38.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/f5d7km.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/w7gdna.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/33erdjt.jpg


Is this new?

She's so beautiful.:wow:

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

Is this new?

She's so beautiful.:wow:

Yep. From Saturday night going to Nobu Uptown in NYC.

Here's some pics of Angie at the premiere of Changeling.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a364/ImHungry_/brad-pitt-whisperer-angelina-jol-2.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a364/ImHungry_/brad-pitt-whisperer-angelina-jol-1.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a364/ImHungry_/brad-pitt-whisperer-angelina-jolie-.jpg

[Hunter Rider]

http://i35.tinypic.com/jrf8k1.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/wjj5vk.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/11he8tw.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/2w3rf50.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/2n6b52x.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/atg2d.jpg

[Two-Face]

I love her :heart:

[ComicChick]

nice to see her looking healthy again

[Chris Wallace]

I'm a little tired of her myself. "Wanted" was horrible, & I can't remember the last movie she did that really wowed me.

[[A]]

posted these in the hottest women thread--and thought I could post them here too. From the The Changelling premiere in New York City

http://i36.tinypic.com/2ufzp10.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/dm7603.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/j5vvao.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/30coava.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/b8u82h.jpg

Hope you Jolie fans like these!

[Two-Face]

Like it? I love it :heart:

[Hunter Rider]

http://i33.tinypic.com/ioevs1.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/mhssbm.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/2rpb69g.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/1221cwh.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/2qk45ub.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/206d6di.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/jigmjb.jpg

[[A]]

Like it? I love it :heart:
:woot::up: I'd post more but tinypic isn't very.........practical

[Two-Face]

http://i33.tinypic.com/ioevs1.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/mhssbm.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/2rpb69g.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/1221cwh.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/2qk45ub.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/206d6di.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/jigmjb.jpg



She's gorgeous.


Saved.

[Two-Face]

From Mr & Mrs Smith days:

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z304/Two-Face24/mr_mrs_smith_set1.jpg

[Hunter Rider]

http://i34.tinypic.com/jg6zjq.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/24pytyp.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/91jaeg.jpg

[BLACKVULCAN]

From Mr & Mrs Smith days:

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z304/Two-Face24/mr_mrs_smith_set1.jpg
Man! that babe is the perfect specimen of female womanitude! Holy what i give to be with that batman!

[Two-Face]

http://i34.tinypic.com/jg6zjq.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/24pytyp.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/91jaeg.jpg



Very nice HR.

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a364/ImHungry_/angelina-jolie-brad-pitt-better-wom.jpg


Angelina Jolie reveals in the new issue of W Magazine that she had only planned on adopting children but after falling in love with Brad Pitt, he changed her mind.

Here are some quotes from the mag via People:

On Brad changing her mind about giving birth to her own children: “I think one of the life changing things that he did, one of many, is that I was absolutely never going to get pregnant. I never felt that it was the right thing to do… I suppose I just looked at him and loved him and just felt open to (getting pregnant). I suddenly wanted to. It’s one of those things you can’t explain.”

On Brad seeing adopted children Maddox and Zahara: “I knew that he would never see them as different, and that gave me a certain peace.”

On having three children with Brad: “I wouldn’t trade that experience for the world. It taught me a lot about life, just the process of it, and now we have three other beautiful children that wouldn’t otherwise be here.”

On baring her body for the intimate W pics taken by Brad just weeks after the twins’ birth: “I’m with a man who’s evolved enough to look at my body and see it as more beautiful, because of the journey it has taken and what it has created. He genuinely sees it that way. So I genuinely feel even sexier.”

On Brad being perfect for her: “[I have] a lot of respect [for Brad. He helps me] to be better and fight hard for the things that I love. I do think that I’m in a good partnership now. I think it just needed to be the right man.”

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

WMagazine.com has 8 pics of Angie plus the interview that was done. I like the pics.:up:

http://www.wmagazine.com/celebrities

[Two-Face]

I want that burger of hers... :woot:


Nice pics.

[jaymes_e06]

http://i35.tinypic.com/mhssbm.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/2rpb69g.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/1221cwh.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/2qk45ub.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/206d6di.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/jigmjb.jpg
Agelina "Catwoman" Jolie indeed. rawr:cwink:

[Two-Face]

Yeah Angie looks beautiful. :heart:

[batboy99]

Now THAT is what I call Catwoman! Jeez, she looks AMAZING!

[SuperZer0]

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/9996/649430831122gx5.jpg

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

There's a new interview up about her about her new movie from the Today show she did this morning. She said she's going to adopt again. :up:

[Crook]

Christ, again?! You know I'm beginning to put a little more stock into what my pscyh professor said about Jolie suffering from bi-polar. She had this entire stat sheet spanning Jolie's entire life and "evidence" that she might have it.

The need for constant companionship and adopting was one of the bullet points. Back then, it was only like 2 children, so I didn't put much thought in it. But what is it now, like 7? :huh:

[Crook]

Christ, again?! You know I'm beginning to put a little more stock into what my pscyh professor said about Jolie suffering from bi-polar. She had this entire stat sheet spanning Jolie's entire life and "evidence" that she might have it.

The need for constant companionship and adopting was one of the bullet points. Back then, it was only like 2 children, so I didn't put much thought in it. But what is it now, like 7? :huh:

[Two-Face]

It doesn't bother me, she can adopt 10 or give birth two more since I'm not the one is gonna look after them all. Plus she has the finance to do that.

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

It doesn't bother me, she can adopt 10 or give birth two more since I'm not the one is gonna look after them all. Plus she has the finance to do that.

Yep.:up: I :heart: her. I can't wait to see Changeling.

[jaymes_e06]

I don't see the big prob once you have more than five kids it's pretty much like have a class with an new student joining it just isn't a big deal.

[Crook]

I don't recall anyone saying it was a problem. :huh:

[Two-Face]

Yep.:up: I :heart: her. I can't wait to see Changeling.

Yeah me too I'm looking forward to new Jolie movie, Trailer makes me want to see it.

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

Angelina is admitting that she and Brad fell in love while he was still married to Jennifer Aniston. She says the romance began on the set of Mr. and Mrs. Smith. Production of the film began a full year before Pitt and Aniston announced their separation in January of 2005.

"Not a lot of people get to see a movie where their parents fell in love," Jolie tells The New York Times. Brad had previously claimed that he had already split from Jen when he Angelina began their relationship.

She also says that while they may be two of the most famous people on the planet, to their six children, they are anything but cool.

"What's going to be funny is when they think Mom and Dad are a little bit cool, because right now, we're not cool Mom and Dad," she says. "Even video games, you know, it's: 'Mom, you can't play this. You don't know how.'"

"Oh, they all think I can't do anything, that I'm just there to snuggle with. But the other day, Madd said, 'Can you do a cartwheel?' and I said, 'Yeah I can.' And he was like, 'Wow, Mom,'" she says.

"And I thought 'Oh, yeah. I can do some things. You wait. You'll find out. I'm capable," Jolie says.

[jaymes_e06]

It's not the first time married co-workers fell in love and wont be the last quite frankly. I personally still don't see what she see's in him other than physical attractivness and love of children but I don't understand why they are always trying to tie their (Angie and Brads) lives back to Jennifer Aniston. She has moved one and has had three boyfriend since her and Pitt's split.

[Crook]

Let's be real here, Aniston's time is running out. She had the "perfect" relationship with Brad, and that fell apart at the most inopportune time, when she's at her "peak".

Last I heard, Mayer broke her heart and without much reason too. She may have accepted separating ways with Brad, but I still think she regrets having a fall-out.

[jaymes_e06]

Yeah no one really cares about her anymore which is sad because she is one of the few actresses who actually have a reason for being famous. Angelina is arguably more beautiful but I always thoughy Brad and Jen look better together IMO.

[ComicChick]

her adopting doesn't really shock me like it does some people i know.

how many kids did will rogers and dale evans adopt. i know it was a lot cuz she said once that she knew everytime he performed at an orphanage there'd always be that one kid he just had to bring home

[Hunter Rider]

Angelina Jolie and Clint Eastwood pair up for 'Changeling' (http://www.usatoday.com/life/l081016_jolie_changeling/flash.htm?gid=734&aid=3528)

Some nice pics and a great quote from Clint. :D

[dark_b]

Angelina Jolie and Clint Eastwood pair up for 'Changeling' (http://www.usatoday.com/life/l081016_jolie_changeling/flash.htm?gid=734&aid=3528)

Some nice pics and a great quote from Clint. :D
pic 12. left arm. this is not normal :o

clint is a badass. :hehe:

[Jolie_Desastre]

aw those pictures of her and clint are so cute! :D

[Two-Face]

pic 12. left arm. this is not normal :o

Angie filmed that movie when she wasn't eating properly.

[Hunter Rider]

http://i34.tinypic.com/2emhoj4.jpg

[jaymes_e06]

aw those pictures of her and clint are so cute! :D
I think she lost all that wieght for this movie to look more meek and less like "ANGELINA JOLIE" and more like a character. But I could be wrong.:o

[Crook]

She had the same physique for when she played a trained assassin with fighting prowess. So yeah, probably.

Anyone else think it's a shame we finally get a movie where we get a good look at her ass....and she looks like a damn stick figure? :down

Testament to her ass though, because ish still looked damn good. :cool:

[Jolie_Desastre]

Well it was after her mother died so I would say that was the major reason for her sudden weight loss. Something like that takes a ****load out of you.

[Two-Face]

http://i34.tinypic.com/2emhoj4.jpg



Beautiful :heart:

PS. Can I this as a avatar HR?

[Hunter Rider]

Here ya go. ;)

http://i38.tinypic.com/11vr7kp.gif

[Two-Face]

Here ya go. ;)

http://i38.tinypic.com/11vr7kp.gif



That was quick, you're like Bond.:wow:

[Crook]

Or akin to a one-minute man. :o

[Two-Face]

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z304/Two-Face24/angelina_jolie_051.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z304/Two-Face24/angelina-jolie-wallpapers2.jpg

[Doctor Jones]

http://i34.tinypic.com/2emhoj4.jpg

That really is a great picture. I think maybe one of my favorites now. And is it just me, or does black and white phots bring out the beauty in women even more?

[Two-Face]

One of my favourite as well, I have it as a avvy.

[Doctor Jones]

I see. Very nice! Man, that b/w photo really strikes me for some reason.

[jaymes_e06]

Yeah that photo was taken when she made Taking Lives and I think she was at her softest and most beautiful (although now she is smokin) I've always thought she looked her best during that movies filming.

[[A]]

Jolie goodies.. for the fans

Italian VANITY FAIR

http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l397/Aeghast/hype/angelina01_et78_123_461lo.jpg

http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l397/Aeghast/hype/angelina02_et78_123_1072lo.jpg

http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l397/Aeghast/hype/angelina03_et78_123_1048lo.jpg

http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l397/Aeghast/hype/angelina04_et78_123_842lo.jpg

http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l397/Aeghast/hype/angelina06_et78_123_492lo.jpg

http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l397/Aeghast/hype/Angeline_Jolie_Vanity_Fair_Italy-5_.jpg

[[A]]

http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l397/Aeghast/hype/AJ01_122_915lo.jpg

http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l397/Aeghast/hype/AJ02_122_575lo.jpg

http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l397/Aeghast/hype/AJ03_122_1122lo.jpg

http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l397/Aeghast/hype/AJ04_122_200lo.jpg

http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l397/Aeghast/hype/AJ06_122_393lo.jpg

http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l397/Aeghast/hype/AJ07_122_447lo.jpg

[[A]]

http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l397/Aeghast/hype/AJ08_122_759lo.jpg

http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l397/Aeghast/hype/AJ09_122_627lo.jpg

http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l397/Aeghast/hype/AJ10_122_1056lo.jpg

http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l397/Aeghast/hype/AJ11_122_906lo.jpg

http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l397/Aeghast/hype/AJ12_122_710lo.jpg

[Doctor Jones]

Brad Pitt = the person that every man wants to be.

[Jolie_Desastre]

http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l397/Aeghast/hype/AJ01_122_915lo.jpg



http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l397/Aeghast/hype/AJ03_122_1122lo.jpg








:heart: her

[Two-Face]

Brad Pitt = the person that every man wants to be.

Yeah me.

[Hunter Rider]

http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l397/Aeghast/hype/AJ12_122_710lo.jpg

I love this pic. :up:

[Hunter Rider]

http://i33.tinypic.com/2196yjk.jpg

[Two-Face]

http://i33.tinypic.com/2196yjk.jpg




I :heart: her

[Dave McFly]

Jolie goodies.. for the fans

Italian VANITY FAIR

http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l397/Aeghast/hype/angelina03_et78_123_1048lo.jpg

http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l397/Aeghast/hype/angelina04_et78_123_842lo.jpg



I LOVE those 2 pics well mainly the 1st :hehe:

[jaymes_e06]

http://i33.tinypic.com/2196yjk.jpg
That new Hunter? She looks is so hot@!

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

KABUL, Afghanistan, October 24 (UNHCR) – The UN refugee agency's Goodwill Ambassador Angelina Jolie has concluded her first visit to Afghanistan, where she saw both the successes and the difficulties of return and reintegration. She saw first hand the country's difficult humanitarian circumstances and called for more international support to meet critical needs during the coming winter.

Jolie's two-day trip comes ahead of an international conference on return and reintegration to be held in Kabul next month. Co-hosted by Afghanistan's Ministry of Foreign Affairs and UNHCR, the event will bring government ministries and donors together to see how the country's absorption capacity can best be strengthened to support further repatriation.

The award-winning American actress is familiar with UNHCR's Afghan operation, having twice visited Pakistan in recent years to see Afghan refugees there. But the visit on Wednesday and Thursday was her first to Afghanistan to see the reintegration challenges inside the country.

"The courage, resilience and quiet dignity of returnee families rebuilding their lives against the kind of adversity few of us can imagine shows the human spirit at its best," Jolie said after visiting a number of sites.

On Wednesday, Jolie travelled to Nangarhar province in eastern Afghanistan where almost 850,000, or 20 percent, of all returnees to Afghanistan have repatriated since 2002. Such numbers have placed huge pressures on the limited land availability in one of Afghanistan's most densely populated provinces.

The Goodwill Ambassador visited the Lower Sheikh Mesri settlement site, where some 1,400 returnee families have been living in makeshift shelters and tattered tents. The site's residents outlined the difficulties of finding employment and the limited access to basic social services such as health and education.

Jolie also witnessed the problems encountered by returnees following the summer closure of Jalozai refugee village in Pakistan's North West Frontier Province. More than 750 families originating from the adjacent Afghan province of Kunar are living on barren land in northern Nangarhar. They have been unable to return to their homes due to insecurity, land disputes and lack of economic opportunities.

"In some ways we were better off in Pakistan. Life is very difficult here. But it means everything to me today to live among my people in my home country despite these problems," said an elderly returnee, Hashim Khan.

On Thursday, Jolie saw similar issues of landlessness and poverty among returnees and internally displaced people (IDP) living in poor housing conditions in Kabul. The Afghan capital's population has increased threefold since 2001 to an estimated 4.5 million. Refugees and IDPs account for approximately 30 percent of this increase. They compete for jobs with other city inhabitants and the many rural migrants who have come to Kabul in search of economic opportunities.

On her Kabul field trip, the actress visited a site of 18 returnee families who have been squatting in public buildings for several years, unable to return and settle in their province of origin because of poverty.

More than 5 million Afghans have returned home since the fall of the Taliban regime in late 2001, over 4.2 million of them with UNHCR's assistance. But the growing incidence of homelessness is a clear sign that the return of the remaining 3 million registered Afghans still in exile in Pakistan and Iran will be a sharper challenge.

Whilst returnees have contributed significantly to the economy with capital and skills acquired abroad, the huge numbers have stretched the capacities of the Afghan authorities. "Afghanistan has been struggling to absorb these massive returns. It's understandable. It's one of the largest population movements in recent history," said Jolie, as she wrapped up her visit on Thursday.

Noting that the long-term commitment of the international community will be critical to the country's recovery and the prospects for future repatriation, the actress also stressed the need for an increase in humanitarian assistance to the population ahead of the coming winter.

The November conference in Kabul aims to build agreement on how return and reintegration can be sustained by increased bilateral, regional, and international cooperation. Traditionally, refugees are assisted by humanitarian aid budgets. But these have limited impact on sustainable reintegration. So an important objective will be to advance the incorporation of return and reintegration issues more systematically into the planning and budgeting of national development programmes in key areas and sectors.

[batboy99]

If anyone is interested, heres a preview for a catwoman manip I did of jolie( im only showing a preview because the final piece is gonna have 4 different catwoman, not just jolie)
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f111/batboy99/PREVIEW-1.jpg

[Jolie_Desastre]

I like it! :D

[batboy99]

Thank you

[Two-Face]

Just seen this, I like it as well.

[jaymes_e06]

Nice work BB. I usually like goggles on CW but to cover up those eyes would be the worst type of crime. ;)

[batboy99]

Goggles would be more practical, but i prefer catwoman without em. Plus this is going on a t shirt and will have 3 other catwomen, so i want to show more of the actresses face.

[Hunter Rider]

http://i37.tinypic.com/5e92e9.jpg

[Jolie_Desastre]

Stunning

[[A]]

Fantabulous cover :up:

[Two-Face]

Beautiful :heart:

[Sentinel X]

http://i33.tinypic.com/2196yjk.jpg
She looks like a hot victoria secret model even in CANDID shots :wow:...I think shes one of the prettiest actresses in hollywood