Oh If Only America Were More Enlightened.... Like Europe!

[Memphis Slim]

HA!! :woot:
Fewer window prostitutes in Amsterdam
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070920/capt.6e3fb72a26a34265b96906f3ea180403.netherlands_ red_light_crackdown_ams110.jpg?x=180&y=121&sig=uGckhJeRsclOXAYvl71CCQ-- (http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070920/481/6e3fb72a26a34265b96906f3ea180403;_ylt=Ap_iJqVdyJT4 5aL4K00S._lbbBAF)

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands - A non-profit corporation has purchased a large number of the buildings where prostitutes pose in windows in Amsterdam's Red Light district, the city said Thursday, in a deal that may lead to a third of the windows being shuttered.
http://view.atdmt.com/DEN/view/yhxxxcsa0040000233den/direct/01/ http://us.bc.yahoo.com/b?P=XF2300WTcuoWJ0wbRgOwsAS0RYi_O0b0RzoABzws&T=18sr0f31j%2fX%3d1190414138%2fE%3d84962395%2fR%3d news%2fK%3d5%2fV%3d2.1%2fW%3dH%2fY%3dYAHOO%2fF%3d2 08752931%2fH%3dY2FjaGVoaW50PSJuZXdzIiBjb250ZW50PSJ ub24tcHJvZml0O2l0O2NyaW1lO21vbmV5O2hvdXNpbmc7cmVhb CBlc3RhdGU7YnVzaW5lc3M7c3RhbmRhcmRzO2RydWc7IiByZWZ 1cmw9IiIgdG9waWNzPSIi%2fQ%3d-1%2fS%3d1%2fJ%3d5A719345&U=13bqnkp8b%2fN%3dDcFUDULEYrM-%2fC%3d615910.11470865.11979858.1442997%2fD%3dLREC %2fB%3d4904286
The move is intended to break a logjam in an multi-year effort by the city to cut back on the windows, which it says are a magnet for crime and money laundering.
Mayor Job Cohen said the move was not intended to get rid of prostitution entirely, since it is part of the area's history and a major tourist draw for the city. :huh: Huh??

"What we do want is to get rid of the underlying criminality," Cohen told local television station AT5.
In Thursday's deal, public housing corporation NV Stadsgoed purchased 18 buildings with 51 windows for $35 million. That is around a third of the windows in the Red Light District, though there are other prostitution zones in the city.
NV Stadsgoed will redevelop some or all of the buildings, and because they are not likely to be worth as much as housing or regular commercial real estate, the city has agreed to reimburse the corporation by up to $21 million.
"We don't know yet what's going to come in their place," Cohen said. "We're very busy making a development plan, and we hope to have that ready by the end of the year."
Amsterdam has been conducting a crackdown on criminality in the city center for nearly five years, using a 2002 law that forces business operators to disclose detailed accounting in order to have their licenses renewed.
The seller in Thursday's deal, "Fat" Charlie Geerts, was ordered by the city last year to close the windows because the city said he failed to meet standards.
But he filed a legal protest and Amsterdam's District Court granted an injunction against closures while he fought the decision.
With its scantily clad prostitutes posing in brothel windows and coffee shops oozing the pungent aroma of cannabis smoke, the Red Light district's seediness has always been part of its attraction.
Prostitution is legal in the Netherlands, and coffee shops are licensed to sell small amounts of marijuana. But the district is a magnet for petty criminals and, authorities believe, human traffickers, drug lords and mobsters — who take advantage of the situation to launder money.
Prostitutes' rights organizations have generally been indifferent to the crackdown, arguing that pimps are the main source of problems, not landlords.

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How Stupid are these people? These are the smart Europeans that a lot of you brag on. They want to get rid of the crime but not the hookers??? :woot: And I want the mice gone but I still want the cheese on my floor!

Seedy activity will attract seedy people. Wanna clean up crime Holland?? Get rid of prostitutes! News Flash!!!!!! Mobsters reeeally like hookers!!! They like drugs too. But Holland doesn't want to give up those things.

Well guess what? The problem will never go away. They want their cake and eat it too.

[taskmaster]

Listen, people are horny and if they can't pay for sex, they're going to take it. I don't want to be raped by some dude who could've had the chance to pay for sex.

Legalize prostitution. (Payed for by the women without fathers foundation.)

[kainedamo]

The argument could be made that if you legalise prostitution, you can chase away the organised criminals and make sure the girls are in safe environments without drugs and aren't being forced into it.

Prostitution is pretty much porno without the cameras.

[The Question]

Legalizing prostitution actually makes a lot of sense. Federal authorities would be able to regulate and monitor it, and set up higher standards of safety. Lower the amount of diseases and women getting hurt by their pimps for sure.

[turtlefocker]

Listen, people are horny and if they can't pay for sex, they're going to take it. I don't want to be raped by some dude who could've had the chance to pay for sex.

Legalize prostitution. (Payed for by the women without fathers foundation.)


Its legal (to an extent) in Canada.... I mean you cant stand on a corner and sell it and you cant actively look for it but its technically legal theres just a lot of red tape so to speak....

[Superhobo]

The argument could be made that if you legalise prostitution, you can chase away the organised criminals and make sure the girls are in safe environments without drugs and aren't being forced into it.

Prostitution is pretty much porno without the cameras.

Yeah. But you forgot to mention that sometimes girls turn to it out of a struggle. I saw a video on e***t about a bunch of girls whoring themselves out for crack. Saddest thing I ever saw. Those girls are so emaciated.

[Memphis Slim]

[quote=kainedamo: The argument could be made that if you legalise prostitution, you can chase away the organised criminals and make sure the girls are in safe environments without drugs and aren't being forced into it.

Prostitution is pretty much porno without the cameras.
[/QUOTE]
It is legal over there!! IT'S NOT WORKING! http://bibleforums.org/forum/images/smilies/lol.gif What's your next idea?

[Argyle of Sock]

Listen, people are horny and if they can't pay for sex, they're going to take it. I don't want to be raped by some dude who could've had the chance to pay for sex.

Legalize prostitution. (Payed for by the women without fathers foundation.)

Seconded.

Sure, no one, female or male, should be forced into prostitution, but that wouldn't be any more of a concern if it were leagalized than it is now. Maybe less.

Legalizing prostitution would make the whole process much safer and less shady.

[Kritish]

Newsflash Celldog, mobsters like hooker when they're not regulated by the government. Remember prohibition? When alcohol was make illegal organized crime sky rocketed.

If we pulled our heads out of our asses we'd legalize it as well.

[Carcharodon]

Prostitutes > Memphis Slim's Posts

:up:

[Addendum]

Prostitutes > Memphis Slim's Posts

:up:

QFT

[Kritish]

Prostitutes > Memphis Slim's Posts

:up:

Ebola > Memphis Slim's Posts

[R0rschach]

How Stupid are these people? These are the smart Europeans that a lot of you brag on. They want to get rid of the crime but not the hookers??? :woot: And I want the mice gone but I still want the cheese on my floor!

Seedy activity will attract seedy people. Wanna clean up crime Holland?? Get rid of prostitutes! News Flash!!!!!! Mobsters reeeally like hookers!!! They like drugs too. But Holland doesn't want to give up those things.

Well guess what? The problem will never go away. They want their cake and eat it too.

1: Getting rid of crime is a naive man's dream.

2: Mice prefer bread over cheese

3: Getting rid of prostitutes will in no way get rid of crime.

4: Mobsters like money and power beyond anything else.

BTW: Holland rocks.

[Joker]

HA!! :woot:
Fewer window prostitutes in Amsterdam
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070920/capt.6e3fb72a26a34265b96906f3ea180403.netherlands_ red_light_crackdown_ams110.jpg?x=180&y=121&sig=uGckhJeRsclOXAYvl71CCQ-- (http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070920/481/6e3fb72a26a34265b96906f3ea180403;_ylt=Ap_iJqVdyJT4 5aL4K00S._lbbBAF)

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands - A non-profit corporation has purchased a large number of the buildings where prostitutes pose in windows in Amsterdam's Red Light district, the city said Thursday, in a deal that may lead to a third of the windows being shuttered.
http://view.atdmt.com/DEN/view/yhxxxcsa0040000233den/direct/01/ http://us.bc.yahoo.com/b?P=XF2300WTcuoWJ0wbRgOwsAS0RYi_O0b0RzoABzws&T=18sr0f31j%2fX%3d1190414138%2fE%3d84962395%2fR%3d news%2fK%3d5%2fV%3d2.1%2fW%3dH%2fY%3dYAHOO%2fF%3d2 08752931%2fH%3dY2FjaGVoaW50PSJuZXdzIiBjb250ZW50PSJ ub24tcHJvZml0O2l0O2NyaW1lO21vbmV5O2hvdXNpbmc7cmVhb CBlc3RhdGU7YnVzaW5lc3M7c3RhbmRhcmRzO2RydWc7IiByZWZ 1cmw9IiIgdG9waWNzPSIi%2fQ%3d-1%2fS%3d1%2fJ%3d5A719345&U=13bqnkp8b%2fN%3dDcFUDULEYrM-%2fC%3d615910.11470865.11979858.1442997%2fD%3dLREC %2fB%3d4904286
The move is intended to break a logjam in an multi-year effort by the city to cut back on the windows, which it says are a magnet for crime and money laundering.
Mayor Job Cohen said the move was not intended to get rid of prostitution entirely, since it is part of the area's history and a major tourist draw for the city. :huh: Huh??

"What we do want is to get rid of the underlying criminality," Cohen told local television station AT5.
In Thursday's deal, public housing corporation NV Stadsgoed purchased 18 buildings with 51 windows for $35 million. That is around a third of the windows in the Red Light District, though there are other prostitution zones in the city.
NV Stadsgoed will redevelop some or all of the buildings, and because they are not likely to be worth as much as housing or regular commercial real estate, the city has agreed to reimburse the corporation by up to $21 million.
"We don't know yet what's going to come in their place," Cohen said. "We're very busy making a development plan, and we hope to have that ready by the end of the year."
Amsterdam has been conducting a crackdown on criminality in the city center for nearly five years, using a 2002 law that forces business operators to disclose detailed accounting in order to have their licenses renewed.
The seller in Thursday's deal, "Fat" Charlie Geerts, was ordered by the city last year to close the windows because the city said he failed to meet standards.
But he filed a legal protest and Amsterdam's District Court granted an injunction against closures while he fought the decision.
With its scantily clad prostitutes posing in brothel windows and coffee shops oozing the pungent aroma of cannabis smoke, the Red Light district's seediness has always been part of its attraction.
Prostitution is legal in the Netherlands, and coffee shops are licensed to sell small amounts of marijuana. But the district is a magnet for petty criminals and, authorities believe, human traffickers, drug lords and mobsters — who take advantage of the situation to launder money.
Prostitutes' rights organizations have generally been indifferent to the crackdown, arguing that pimps are the main source of problems, not landlords.

__________________________________________________ ___________
__________________________________________________ ___________

How Stupid are these people? These are the smart Europeans that a lot of you brag on. They want to get rid of the crime but not the hookers??? :woot: And I want the mice gone but I still want the cheese on my floor!

Seedy activity will attract seedy people. Wanna clean up crime Holland?? Get rid of prostitutes! News Flash!!!!!! Mobsters reeeally like hookers!!! They like drugs too. But Holland doesn't want to give up those things.

Well guess what? The problem will never go away. They want their cake and eat it too.

Prostitution and drugs are legalized, therefore the mob has nothing to do with it. Unless by mob, you mean goverment, which are about the same thing in most cases anyway...the other cases it's because they're the exact same thing, ala the Kennedy administrations seedy underbelly.

[Joker]

Ebola > Memphis Slim's Posts

Hookers With Ebola=Memphis Slim's Posts...just cause, much like his posts, you go into them not sure exactly what to expect, and then you end up puking out your own internal organs after being exposed to them.

[Arkady Rossovich]

Amsterdam is considered one of the slums of Europe.

[Enriquespy]

1: Getting rid of crime is a naive man's dream.

2: Mice prefer bread over cheese

3: Getting rid of prostitutes will in no way get rid of crime.

4: Mobsters like money and power beyond anything else.

BTW: Holland rocks.

You are rigth, Memphis Slim is wrong.:cwink:

[The Overlord]

So Slim I guess you like big government, this just big government trying to choke
private enterprise (in this case, hookers). Why do you hate the free market Slim?:cwink:

[Memphis Slim]

Europe Strikes again... :yay:

Glamorous politician wants law to allow 7-year itch
By Madeline Chambers Fri Sep 21, 4:00 AM ET



BERLIN (Reuters) - Bavaria's most glamorous politician -- a flame-haired motorcyclist who helped bring down state premier Edmund Stoiber -- has shocked the Catholic state in Germany by suggesting marriage should last just 7 years. ADVERTISEMENT
http://us.bc.yahoo.com/b?P=Vcy8.kWTcup7PjC.VdmlvQbFCAkV.kbz0m4ACx7C&T=16hee9ca9%2fX%3d1190384238%2fE%3d91526046%2fR%3d news%2fK%3d5%2fV%3d2.1%2fW%3dH%2fY%3dYAHOO%2fF%3d1 976469395%2fH%3dY2FjaGVoaW50PSJuZXdzIiBjb250ZW50PS JpdDtwb2xpdGljczsiIHJlZnVybD0iIiB0b3BpY3M9IiI-%2fQ%3d-1%2fS%3d1%2fJ%3d43719345&U=13b4c8q2l%2fN%3d3MewCULEYrg-%2fC%3d584571.11468832.11978185.1442997%2fD%3dLREC %2fB%3d4818376
Gabriele Pauli, who poses on her web site in motorcycle leathers, is standing for the leadership of Bavaria's Christian Social Union (CSU) -- sister party of Chancellor Angela Merkel's conservative Christian Democrats (CDU) -- in a vote next week.
She told reporters at the launch of her campaign manifesto on Wednesday she wanted marriage to expire after seven years and accused the CSU, which promotes traditional family values, of nurturing ideals of marriage which are wide of the mark.
"The basic approach is wrong ... many marriages last just because people believe they are safe," she told reporters. "My suggestion is that marriages expire after seven years."
After that time, couples should either agree to extend their marriage or it should be automatically dissolved, she said.
Fifty-year-old Pauli, twice divorced, is a maverick intent on shaking up her male-dominated and mainly Catholic party which has dominated Bavarian politics since World War Two.
"This is about bringing ideas into the CSU and starting a discussion," she told German television on Thursday after she had unleashed a wave of criticism from other politicians.
Former foe Stoiber said she did not belong in the CSU and European lawmaker Ingo Freidrich dismissed her views.
"She is diametrically contradicting our Christian, ethical values," Freidrich said.
Peter Ramsauer, head of the CSU in Germany's parliament, compared Pauli's ideas to "the dirt under your fingernails".
Pauli, who attracted attention earlier this year when she posed for a magazine wearing long black latex gloves, was at the centre of a snooping scandal which eventually led to Stoiber, Bavarian premier for 14 years, saying he would stand down early.
She said his office tried to obtain details about lovers and alcohol consumption to use against her.
The CSU will elect Stoiber's successor as party head at a conference next week. He will be replaced as state premier in early October.
Viewed as a party rebel, Pauli stands almost no chance of winning next week's vote. The contest has been fought mainly between Bavarian state economy minister Erwin Huber and German Consumer Minister Horst Seehofer.
The popularity of Seehofer, a 58-year-old married father of three, has suffered from the disclosure that he had been having an affair with a younger woman who recently had his baby.

[Memphis Slim]

Prostitution and drugs are legalized, therefore the mob has nothing to do with it. Unless by mob, you mean goverment, which are about the same thing in most cases anyway...the other cases it's because they're the exact same thing, ala the Kennedy administrations seedy underbelly.


If you think the mob doesn't have it's hands in this, you are more naive than I thought!

Drugs and hookers go hand-in-hand. Most of those girls stay high just to cope with being used as toilets for strange men. The mob is makin' cash and they will hang around.

[Bill]

Europe Strikes again... :yay:

Glamorous politician wants law to allow 7-year itch
By Madeline Chambers Fri Sep 21, 4:00 AM ET



BERLIN (Reuters) - Bavaria's most glamorous politician -- a flame-haired motorcyclist who helped bring down state premier Edmund Stoiber -- has shocked the Catholic state in Germany by suggesting marriage should last just 7 years. ADVERTISEMENT
http://us.bc.yahoo.com/b?P=Vcy8.kWTcup7PjC.VdmlvQbFCAkV.kbz0m4ACx7C&T=16hee9ca9%2fX%3d1190384238%2fE%3d91526046%2fR%3d news%2fK%3d5%2fV%3d2.1%2fW%3dH%2fY%3dYAHOO%2fF%3d1 976469395%2fH%3dY2FjaGVoaW50PSJuZXdzIiBjb250ZW50PS JpdDtwb2xpdGljczsiIHJlZnVybD0iIiB0b3BpY3M9IiI-%2fQ%3d-1%2fS%3d1%2fJ%3d43719345&U=13b4c8q2l%2fN%3d3MewCULEYrg-%2fC%3d584571.11468832.11978185.1442997%2fD%3dLREC %2fB%3d4818376
Gabriele Pauli, who poses on her web site in motorcycle leathers, is standing for the leadership of Bavaria's Christian Social Union (CSU) -- sister party of Chancellor Angela Merkel's conservative Christian Democrats (CDU) -- in a vote next week.
She told reporters at the launch of her campaign manifesto on Wednesday she wanted marriage to expire after seven years and accused the CSU, which promotes traditional family values, of nurturing ideals of marriage which are wide of the mark.
"The basic approach is wrong ... many marriages last just because people believe they are safe," she told reporters. "My suggestion is that marriages expire after seven years."
After that time, couples should either agree to extend their marriage or it should be automatically dissolved, she said.
Fifty-year-old Pauli, twice divorced, is a maverick intent on shaking up her male-dominated and mainly Catholic party which has dominated Bavarian politics since World War Two.
"This is about bringing ideas into the CSU and starting a discussion," she told German television on Thursday after she had unleashed a wave of criticism from other politicians.
Former foe Stoiber said she did not belong in the CSU and European lawmaker Ingo Freidrich dismissed her views.
"She is diametrically contradicting our Christian, ethical values," Freidrich said.
Peter Ramsauer, head of the CSU in Germany's parliament, compared Pauli's ideas to "the dirt under your fingernails".
Pauli, who attracted attention earlier this year when she posed for a magazine wearing long black latex gloves, was at the centre of a snooping scandal which eventually led to Stoiber, Bavarian premier for 14 years, saying he would stand down early.
She said his office tried to obtain details about lovers and alcohol consumption to use against her.
The CSU will elect Stoiber's successor as party head at a conference next week. He will be replaced as state premier in early October.
Viewed as a party rebel, Pauli stands almost no chance of winning next week's vote. The contest has been fought mainly between Bavarian state economy minister Erwin Huber and German Consumer Minister Horst Seehofer.
The popularity of Seehofer, a 58-year-old married father of three, has suffered from the disclosure that he had been having an affair with a younger woman who recently had his baby.


It would certainly cut down on marital problems and divorce rates. Two people enter into a contract for a specific amount of time with terms and conditions already factored in, and at the end they have the option of renewing or letting it expire and go there separate ways with their possessions divided according to the contract or staying together and continuing the contract.

[The Overlord]

If you think the mob doesn't have it's hands in this, you are more naive than I thought!

Drugs and hookers go hand-in-hand. Most of those girls stay high just to cope with being used as toilets for strange men. The mob is makin' cash and they will hang around.

If its making cash that means its part of the free market. You trying kill free market enterprise with over regulation. Its clear you hate the free market, that makes you....A COMMUNIST!!!! :cmad: :cmad: :cmad:

Go back to Russia, commie!

[Joker]

If you think the mob doesn't have it's hands in this, you are more naive than I thought!

Drugs and hookers go hand-in-hand. Most of those girls stay high just to cope with being used as toilets for strange men. The mob is makin' cash and they will hang around.

The phrase mob implies something illegal is being done. There is legal drugs and prostitution in Amsterdam. Therefore, having hookers and keeping them constantly strung out is not illegal. Therefore it is not the mob, it's a legitamate buisness. Therefore, the mob has nothing to do with it. I'm sure there are probably some mobsters who run those places, yeah. But if you look at America, there's instances of the mafia controlling alot of things, like strip clubs, and even waste disposal industries, but you dont see us shutting down the strip bars or banning garbage dumps.

[Joker]

It would certainly cut down on marital problems and divorce rates. Two people enter into a contract for a specific amount of time with terms and conditions already factored in, and at the end they have the option of renewing or letting it expire and go there separate ways with their possessions divided according to the contract or staying together and continuing the contract.

I agree. Germany is genius for thinking of this.

[Dangerous]

Europe rules, we got whores! loads of whores I love it!

[Hunter Rider]

The argument could be made that if you legalise prostitution, you can chase away the organised criminals and make sure the girls are in safe environments without drugs and aren't being forced into it.

Prostitution is pretty much porno without the cameras.

Or large penises :up:

[Dangerous]

and w/ aids as an added bonus.

[Joker]

and w/ aids as an added bonus.

prostitution in Amsterdam is all government regulated, condoms are required, and the girls are checked at regular intervals for diseases.

[Hunter Rider]

Europe Strikes again... :yay:

Glamorous politician wants law to allow 7-year itch
By Madeline Chambers Fri Sep 21, 4:00 AM ET



BERLIN (Reuters) - Bavaria's most glamorous politician -- a flame-haired motorcyclist who helped bring down state premier Edmund Stoiber -- has shocked the Catholic state in Germany by suggesting marriage should last just 7 years. ADVERTISEMENT
http://us.bc.yahoo.com/b?P=Vcy8.kWTcup7PjC.VdmlvQbFCAkV.kbz0m4ACx7C&T=16hee9ca9%2fX%3d1190384238%2fE%3d91526046%2fR%3d news%2fK%3d5%2fV%3d2.1%2fW%3dH%2fY%3dYAHOO%2fF%3d1 976469395%2fH%3dY2FjaGVoaW50PSJuZXdzIiBjb250ZW50PS JpdDtwb2xpdGljczsiIHJlZnVybD0iIiB0b3BpY3M9IiI-%2fQ%3d-1%2fS%3d1%2fJ%3d43719345&U=13b4c8q2l%2fN%3d3MewCULEYrg-%2fC%3d584571.11468832.11978185.1442997%2fD%3dLREC %2fB%3d4818376
Gabriele Pauli, who poses on her web site in motorcycle leathers, is standing for the leadership of Bavaria's Christian Social Union (CSU) -- sister party of Chancellor Angela Merkel's conservative Christian Democrats (CDU) -- in a vote next week.
She told reporters at the launch of her campaign manifesto on Wednesday she wanted marriage to expire after seven years and accused the CSU, which promotes traditional family values, of nurturing ideals of marriage which are wide of the mark.
"The basic approach is wrong ... many marriages last just because people believe they are safe," she told reporters. "My suggestion is that marriages expire after seven years."
After that time, couples should either agree to extend their marriage or it should be automatically dissolved, she said.
Fifty-year-old Pauli, twice divorced, is a maverick intent on shaking up her male-dominated and mainly Catholic party which has dominated Bavarian politics since World War Two.
"This is about bringing ideas into the CSU and starting a discussion," she told German television on Thursday after she had unleashed a wave of criticism from other politicians.
Former foe Stoiber said she did not belong in the CSU and European lawmaker Ingo Freidrich dismissed her views.
"She is diametrically contradicting our Christian, ethical values," Freidrich said.
Peter Ramsauer, head of the CSU in Germany's parliament, compared Pauli's ideas to "the dirt under your fingernails".
Pauli, who attracted attention earlier this year when she posed for a magazine wearing long black latex gloves, was at the centre of a snooping scandal which eventually led to Stoiber, Bavarian premier for 14 years, saying he would stand down early.
She said his office tried to obtain details about lovers and alcohol consumption to use against her.
The CSU will elect Stoiber's successor as party head at a conference next week. He will be replaced as state premier in early October.
Viewed as a party rebel, Pauli stands almost no chance of winning next week's vote. The contest has been fought mainly between Bavarian state economy minister Erwin Huber and German Consumer Minister Horst Seehofer.
The popularity of Seehofer, a 58-year-old married father of three, has suffered from the disclosure that he had been having an affair with a younger woman who recently had his baby.

So basically normal folks having celeb marriages with a drawn up contract:o

[Dangerous]

prostitution in Amsterdam is all government regulated, condoms are required, and the girls are checked at regular intervals for diseases.

In Amsterdam, in that respect, I guess it is a bit like porno.

Except it is not filmed and sold on dvd.

Tell me Joker- have you been to Amsterdam and experienced the prossys there firsthand?

[Joker]

No, but I've...studied it...from what I understand, it's essentially just like the legalized prostitution in Nevada, but without the "it has to be X distance away from a city limits" rule...and less washed up porn actresses work in Amsterdam.

[blind_fury]

Amsterdam is considered one of the slums of Europe.

lolz.

Probably by the type who hate immigrants and think weed is worse than alcohol simply because it's illegal in most places.

Narrow minded fools need to visit a smart shop and do some perceptual exploration.

[Joker]

Narrow minded fools need to visit a smart shop and do some perceptual exploration.

oh snap, intellectual burn

[blind_fury]

Build more brothels and fewer prisons.

Down with correctional facilities and up with erectional facilities. :up:

[blind_fury]

It is legal over there!! IT'S NOT WORKING! http://bibleforums.org/forum/images/smilies/lol.gif What's your next idea?

Pimping and the extortion of women will increase if they criminalize prostitution and drive it underground.

Allowing consenting adults to do as they please behind close doors works better than treating them like criminals. That approach to reducing crime is back asswards.

[Hunter Rider]

Blind Fury vs Memphis Slim, throw in some hookers and drugs and we got ourselves a main event folks :up:

[blind_fury]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/cave_ninja/thinout.gif

Why would anyone want to cock-block Grandpa Simpson from getting a sex fantasy from a supple breasted Italian hooker with an oral fixation? :csad:

[blind_fury]

Have a baby by me; baby
Be a millionaire
I write the check before the baby comes,
Who the f**k cares?

9vBu94WUUG4

[Superman]

I say make it legal. Hell, It works in Nevada, Why couldn't it work in the rest of the country?

[blind_fury]

Nevada's prostitution is terribly over-priced and the girls aren't even worth it. Most of them should be paying men for sex, not the other way around.

Amsterdam is a whole other story. Exotic dymes (Malaysian, Dutch, Brazilian, Japanese, Italian, etc) who look 5 times better than the trashy Chicken/Bunny Ranch girls in Nevada for 5 times less the money.

*The more you know rainbow*

[blind_fury]

Also England has escorts that put the entire US to shame but most are from Eastern Europe originally.

[knowsbleed]

escort/hooker...what's the difference?

[blind_fury]

Or large penises :up:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a146/Mecha_Fang/smmwzn0.gif

[The Original Bamfer]

Nevada's prostitution is terribly over-priced and the girls aren't even worth it. Most of them should be paying men for sex, not the other way around.

Amsterdam is a whole other story. Exotic dymes (Malaysian, Dutch, Brazilian, Japanese, Italian, etc) who look 5 times better than the trashy Chicken/Bunny Ranch girls in Nevada for 5 times less the money.

*The more you know rainbow*

Also England has escorts that put the entire US to shame but most are from Eastern Europe originally.

Well, this is sad.

[knowsbleed]

Paying for sex = coolio

[Kritish]

It appears that blind_fury has declared war on Celldog. Whoever wins is still an idiot.

[blind_fury]

escort/hooker...what's the difference?

What's the difference between Cabernet Sauvignon and Budweiser Light?

[blind_fury]

It appears that blind_fury has declared war on Celldog. Whoever wins is still an idiot.

You're a moron if you think you're wise be anyone's standard.

[Kritish]

So blind_fury, tell us what the hookers in Darfur are like.

[knowsbleed]

b_f is my hero.

[Kritish]

You're a moron if you think you're wise be anyone's standard.

You're a moron if you can't tell the difference between be and by. Besides, where did I claim that I was wise? I just noted that you're both idiots.

Shut up and get with the cripple fight! :cmad:

http://z.about.com/d/animatedtv/1/0/j/T/timmy_CrippleFight_400.jpg

[The Original Bamfer]

Gosh, betting money on two losers is always a winning situation. :up:

[blind_fury]

Well, this is sad.

Well I think it's sad that non-alpha males who want sex fantasies with countless beautiful women of various races can't because of outdated nanny laws and taboos created by people who are sanctimonious pricks and/or complete hypocrites.

[knowsbleed]

Well I think it's sad that non-alpha males who want sex fantasies with countless beautiful women of various races can't because of outdated nanny laws and taboos created by people who are sanctimonious pricks and/or complete hypocrites.

I agree completely...




that Bamfer is a non-alpha male.

[Kritish]

b_f is my hero.

Save the hooker save the world. :ninja:

[blind_fury]

You're a moron if you can't tell the difference between be and by. Besides, where did I claim that I was wise? I just noted that you're both idiots.

Shut up and get with the cripple fight! :cmad:

http://z.about.com/d/animatedtv/1/0/j/T/timmy_CrippleFight_400.jpg

Your an idiot if you obsess over minor typos.

And your far from a perfect specimen my friend. Chances are if they ever start taking eugenics seriously your sterilization is assured.

[The Original Bamfer]

Well I think it's sad that non-alpha males who want sex fantasies with countless beautiful women of various races can't because of outdated nanny laws and taboos created by people who are sanctimonious pricks and/or complete hypocrites.

I'm not out paying for sex. :huh:

I agree completely...




that Bamfer is a non-alpha male.

Shut up! :cmad: Eventually, possibly, maybe, blind_fury will catch on to your sarcastic mockery! Till then, continue. :up:

[blind_fury]

Save the hooker save the world. :ninja:

WWJD :ninja:

[Kritish]

Your an idiot if you obsess over minor typos.

And your far from a perfect specimen my friend. Chances are if they ever start taking eugenics seriously your sterilization is assured.

Wait, the guy who thinks smoking weed and soliciting hookers is a sound life style thinks he has the right to tell me off? :dry:

[knowsbleed]

Wait, the guy who thinks smoking weed and soliciting hookers is a sound life style thinks he has the right to tell me off? :dry:

ahh...the life of a bachelor. *le sigh*

[blind_fury]

I'm not out paying for sex. :huh:
"and/or" indicates two possible conjunction boy genius.



Shut up! :cmad: Eventually, possibly, maybe, blind_fury will catch on to your sarcastic mockery! Till then, continue. :up:
he's not being sarcastic. It's obvious to most your far from an alpha male.

Your a lemming and a pouser.

[The Original Bamfer]

"and/or" indicates two possible conjunction boy genius.




he's not being sarcastic. It's obvious to most your far from an alpha male.

Your a lemming and a pouser.

b_f is my hero.

You're right.

Oh, and pouser?

[Kritish]

he's not being sarcastic. It's obvious to most your far from an alpha male.

Your a lemming and a pouser.

Look who's talking, what are you exactly an Omega male?

[blind_fury]

Wait, the guy who thinks smoking weed and soliciting hookers is a sound life style thinks he has the right to tell me off? :dry:

Yeah I do.

You might have a reciprocated love and avoid weed just as much as Hitler did. Those trivial details don't put you above being exposed as a forked tongued assclown.

[knowsbleed]

Those trivial details don't put you above being exposed as a forked tongued assclown.

I'm so gonna use that.

[Kritish]

Yeah I do.

You might have a reciprocated love and avoid weed just as much as Hitler did. Those trivial details don't put you above being exposed as a forked tongued assclown.

Now you've degraded to calling me an assclown. Could you be more predictable? :huh:

[blind_fury]

You're right.

Oh, and pouser?

Yah I'm a lazy typist. sue me.

Your still a lemming and brown-noser. Correct spelling won't help you.

[Superhobo]

Yeah I do.

You might have a reciprocated love and avoid weed just as much as Hitler did. Those trivial details don't put you above being exposed as a forked tongued assclown.

So...no, wait, what?


:huh:

[knowsbleed]

Now you've degraded to calling me an assclown. Could you be more predictable? :huh:

fork tongued...HYOOJ difference.

[Superhobo]

Yah I'm a lazy typist. sue me.

Your still a lemming and brown-noser. Correct spelling won't help you.

How's he being a "lemming" and a "brown-noser?" Enlighten me.

[Kritish]

Shouldn't you be off somewhere posting C. Lee's private messages?

[The Original Bamfer]

How's he being a "lemming" and a "brown-noser?" Enlighten me.

I disagree with him.

[blind_fury]

Now you've degraded to calling me an assclown. Could you be more predictable? :huh:
oh well.

It still fits you like a glove.

[blind_fury]

Shouldn't you be off somewhere posting C. Lee's private messages?

ziiiiing!

[Addendum]

How's he being a "lemming" and a "brown-noser?" Enlighten me.

Dude, come on.

http://dailydiatribe.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/ugly-baby-a3c.jpg
It's blind fury.

[Superhobo]

oh well.

It still fits you like a glove.

Says the floozy-buying pot-smoking dillweed.


:o

[Superhobo]

Shouldn't you be off somewhere posting C. Lee's private messages?

Eh-- what?

[Kritish]

fork tongued...HYOOJ difference.

I'll admit that I haven't been called a fork tongued and an assclown in the same sentence before but it's still lamer than FDR's legs.

[knowsbleed]

dillweed

fork tongued assclown

i'm writing all these down

[blind_fury]

How's he being a "lemming" and a "brown-noser?" Enlighten me.

Well he's a groupie of various Hype prom queens and jumps on whatever bandwagon they're on.

He's like Smithers but without the efficiency.

[blind_fury]

Dude, come on.

http://dailydiatribe.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/ugly-baby-a3c.jpg
It's blind fury.
To be fair.

That was taken early in the morning. :o

[The Original Bamfer]

Well he's a groupie of various Hype prom queens and jumps on whatever bandwagon they're on.

He's like Smithers but without the efficiency.

Well, according to your logic, the majority of the Hype! must be bandwagon-riding groupies.

[Superhobo]

Well he's a groupie of various Hype prom queens and jumps on whatever bandwagon they're on.

He's like Smithers but without the efficiency.

I think you're just angry 'cause everyone's all gangin' up on your ass.

Hey, tell us again how you're an anarchist who's in the United States Military. That's a great one.

[Kritish]

ziiiiing!

That "zing" was directed towards you sugar tits.

Does anyone besides me remember hooker_fury's latest encounter with the moderators? He posted a warning that C. Lee sent to him via private message (it's against the rules to post a private message for public viewing without consent from the other person).

[blind_fury]

Says the floozy-buying pot-smoking dillweed.


:o

so says the...

spineless-anarchist-for-a-day-then-turns-back-into-cowardly-conformist.

Your like Starscream but without the cool flight abilities.

[knowsbleed]

hooker haters...the lot of you.

[blind_fury]

I think you're just angry 'cause everyone's all gangin' up on your ass.

Hey, tell us again how you're an anarchist who's in the United States Military. That's a great one.

Angry?

lolz don't flatter yourself. This is child's play.

And I'm no longer I'm a non-active veteran not that it's any of your business.

[Kritish]

I think you're just angry 'cause everyone's all gangin' up on your ass.

Hey, tell us again how you're an anarchist who's in the United States Military. That's a great one.

I'm not buying for one second that he's in the military.


We're not desperate enough to recruit someone of his intellect.
Use of an illegal substance is a pretty good way to get yourself a dishonorable discharge.

[The Original Bamfer]

He's like Smithers but without the efficiency.

Your like Starscream but without the cool flight abilities.

Keep going...

[blind_fury]

Well, according to your logic, the majority of the Hype! must be bandwagon-riding groupies.

haha.

Your type accounts for maybe 20%.

Democracy FTW.

[knowsbleed]

Hey, hey, hey...Starscream was all for hookers...I'm sure.

[blind_fury]

Keep going...

Yeah, I'm enjoying those as well. :woot:

[Superhobo]

so says the...

spineless-anarchist-for-a-day-then-turns-back-into-cowardly-conformist.

Your like Starscream but without the cool flight abilities.

Um...I'm pretty sure I'm still a subscriber to the anarchist school of thought, tae very much. I'm not some 'personal anarchist,' or whatever it was you called it, though. And, I'm still pretty sure I'M NOT THE ONE IN THE ARMY.

Oh, and I'm a 'conformist' because I disagree with you?

[The Original Bamfer]

Hey, hey, hey...Starscream was all for hookers...I'm sure.

Arcee's a whore.

[blind_fury]

Hey, hey, hey...Starscream was all for hookers...I'm sure.

No.

Threesomes with swedish supermodels is the right of all sentient beings.

Starscream hates all concepts of freedom and liberty. :trans:

[Superhobo]

Yeah, I'm enjoying those as well. :woot:

You're like Chris Crocker without the possibly intentional funny parts.

:o

[knowsbleed]

Arcee's a whore.

its "hoor"...get it right

get it ripe

get it tight

[Superhobo]

Angry?

lolz don't flatter yourself. This is child's play.

And I'm no longer I'm a non-active veteran not that it's any of your business.

Wow. Way to edit your posts.



Ten minutes later.

[Kritish]

so says the...

spineless-anarchist-for-a-day-then-turns-back-into-cowardly-conformist.

Your like Starscream but without the cool flight abilities.

You at least claim to have been in the military that's the ultimate spineless anarchist.


And I'm no longer I'm a non-active veteran not that it's any of your business.

So you wouldn't mind if Nosebleed and Jack as you some questions you should know?

[The Original Bamfer]

its "hoor"...get it right

get it ripe

get it tight

Stop pushing your lingo on me! I already "have to" say, "dood." :cmad:

[Superhobo]

You at least claim to have been in the military that's the ultimate spineless anarchist.



So you wouldn't mind if Nosebleed and Jack as you some questions you should know?

I love these types of posts. They remind me of airline security.

[knowsbleed]

Stop pushing your lingo on me! I already "have to" say, "dood." :cmad:

I'm not Master Chief.

[The Original Bamfer]

I'm not Master Chief.

Try Jack Rabbit.

[knowsbleed]

chicobeastia approves of hoors...i'm sure

[The Original Bamfer]

Yeah, I'm sure it approves of the long-lasting gifts they leave behind, too.

[Mr Sparkle]

How Stupid are these people? These are the smart Europeans that a lot of you brag on. They want to get rid of the crime but not the hookers??? :woot: And I want the mice gone but I still want the cheese on my floor!

Seedy activity will attract seedy people. Wanna clean up crime Holland?? Get rid of prostitutes! News Flash!!!!!! Mobsters reeeally like hookers!!! They like drugs too. But Holland doesn't want to give up those things.

Well guess what? The problem will never go away. They want their cake and eat it too.

yeah, they should make Illegal, like in the states, also drugs, make those Illegal like in the states.

lord knows that there's no crime there right?


right?

anyone?

* crickets *

[blind_fury]

Um...I'm pretty sure I'm still a subscriber to the anarchist school of thought, tae very much. I'm not some 'personal anarchist,' or whatever it was you called it, though. And, I'm still pretty sure I'M NOT THE ONE IN THE ARMY.

Oh, and I'm a 'conformist' because I disagree with you?
ok, I'm a non-active veteran dude so find another reason to attack my anarchist stance.

Disagreeing with an unpopular poster doesn't make you a conformist but resorting to loud, cheap insults when I've never attacked you previously reeks of lynch mob desperation to be the attacker rather than the attacked.

[Kritish]

I think we should tell blind_fury that a dishonorable discharge out of boot camp doesn't count as being in the military.

[blind_fury]

You're like Chris Crocker without the possibly intentional funny parts.

:o
You're like Fox News but without the high ratings.

[knowsbleed]

yeah, they should make Illegal, like in the states, also drugs, make those Illegal like in the states.

lord knows that there's no crime there right?


right?

anyone?

* crickets *

Don't forget the mobsters...they're listening as we type.

[blind_fury]

I think we should tell blind_fury that dishonorable discharge out of boot camp doesn't count as being in the military.

keep talking out of your ass.

Your breath probably stinks anyway.

[Superhobo]

I think we should tell blind_fury that a dishonorable discharge out of boot camp doesn't count as being in the military.

:up:

That's so yes.

[knowsbleed]

I didn't know b_f was in the military.


there's hoors in the military too.

[Superhobo]

ok, I'm a non-active veteran dude so find another reason to attack my anarchist stance.

Disagreeing with an unpopular poster doesn't make you a conformist but resorting to loud, cheap insults when I've never attacked you previously reeks of lynch mob desperation to be the attacker rather than the attacked.

'kay. Your anarchist stance holds no long-term goals to help anyone else. Its all about "you." That's some kinda stupid. Want another?

I don't think there's such a thing as voice volume on the internet, Ernest.

[The Original Bamfer]

I didn't know b_f was in the military.


there's hoors in the military too.

Exhibit A.

[Kritish]

:up:

That's so yes.

What probably happened is blind_fury burst into tears the first time the drill Sargent yelled at him so the Sargent just said "I'm not dealing with this" and got him booted out.

So now blind_fury tells the prostitutes he's soliciting that he was a vet so he can get the War hero's special. :csad:

[Superhobo]

What probably happened is blind_fury burst into tears the first time the drill Sargent yelled at him so the Sargent just said "I'm not dealing with this" and got him booted out.

So now blind_fury tells the prostitutes he's soliciting that he was a vet. :csad:

Ahaha. Quoted For t3h Truths.

[knowsbleed]

military discount :up:

[blind_fury]

You at least claim to have been in the military that's the ultimate spineless anarchist.
Why?

Not all veterans march at Beauty Queen parades and Bush rallys. Get your head out of your ass.



So you wouldn't mind if Nosebleed and Jack as you some questions you should know?
do they work for you or something?

and why would you be skeptical?

Do you think all veterans march to the beat of the same drum?

[The Original Bamfer]

Why?

Not all veterans march at Beauty Queen parades and Bush rallys. Get your head out of your ass.




do they work for you or something?

and why would you be skeptical?

Do you think all veterans march to the beat of the same drum?

You sure you have a beat?

[Superhobo]

Why?

Not all veterans march at Beauty Queen parades and Bush rallys. Get your head out of your ass.


No, the thing is, its insanely hypocritical to hold an anarchist viewpoint and then join the U.S. military. At all. It really is.



do they work for you or something?

and why would you be skeptical?

Do you think all veterans march to the beat of the same drum?

I can SO see you doing the George Carlin angry mutter at your computer desk right now.

[knowsbleed]

seriously...what does b_f saying he's a veteran have to do with european hookers?

[Kritish]

Do you think all veterans march to the beat of the same drum?

Most military personnel beat to the "sentient life form" drum.

[Superhobo]

seriously...what does b_f saying he's a veteran have to do with european hookers?

"Ah'm A VET-ran, BIOTCH. Now, gedonacorna'!"

[Kritish]

seriously...what does b_f saying he's a veteran have to do with european hookers?

In a couple of minutes he'll tell us how he helped liberate Paris from the Germans.

[The Original Bamfer]

In a couple of minutes he'll tell us how he helped liberate Paris from the Germans.

She was in a gang bang?

[Superhobo]

She was in a gang bang?

*ba-dum tish*

[Kritish]

She was in a gang bang?

:woot:

[blind_fury]

'kay. Your anarchist stance holds no long-term goals to help anyone else. Its all about "you." That's some kinda stupid. Want another?
heh

I've compared anarchy to contemporary abolitionism. I've stated that embracing self-ownership could possibly lead to more self-actualization and self-realization for more people in general improving our democracy in ways. I've stated that anarchy can awaken the senses of people who've given up on life by using surreal theatrics and a well timed rebel yells.

But of course you ignore all of that and equate self-ownership with crude selfishness rather than acknowledge the truth.

[blind_fury]

You sure you have a beat?

I'm certain I have a beating heart that pumps blood.

Not a kool aid pump like yourself.

[The Original Bamfer]

I'm certain I have a beating heart that pumps blood.

Not a kool aid pump like yourself.

http://www.techsewing.com/image/Collab4.gif

[knowsbleed]

she's waay to young to be his hoor.

[The Original Bamfer]

Give her three or four years.

[Superhobo]

heh

I've compared anarchy to contemporary abolitionism. I've stated that embracing self-ownership could possibly lead to more self-actualization and self-realization for more people in general improving our democracy in ways. I've stated that anarchy can awaken the senses of people who've given up on life by using surreal theatrics and a well timed rebel yells.

But of course you ignore all of that and equate self-ownership with crude selfishness rather than acknowledge the truth.

Not really. But, I've gotta tell ya, you seem like you've got your head more in the clouds than most people like you I meet. I mean, here's the thing: the two ( your anarchism and abolitionism) are two completely different things. There's no thematic relation between the two besides the similar spelling, and to compare your version of anarchism (as you described) to abolitionism is something I should smack you for.

It still seems you haven't read up on: Mikhail Bakunin, or his works, or the Spanish Civil War (and how it functioned during), or any of the concepts of anarch-collectivism other than the straw-man you're still holding up.

[blind_fury]

What probably happened is blind_fury burst into tears the first time the drill Sargent yelled at him so the Sargent just said "I'm not dealing with this" and got him booted out.
Kritish thinks he's Navy Seal material.

He'd probably get kicked out for flirting with his "superior".

Remember Kritish. Don't ask, don't tell.


So now blind_fury tells the prostitutes he's soliciting that he was a vet so he can get the War hero's special. :csad:
That hasn't worked since WW2. :o

[knowsbleed]

Not really. But, I've gotta tell ya, you seem like you've got your head more in the clouds than most people like you I meet. I mean, here's the thing: the two ( your anarchism and abolitionism) are two completely different things. There's no thematic relation between the two besides the similar spelling, and to compare your version of anarchism (as you described) to abolitionism is something I should smack you for.

It still seems you haven't read up on: Mikhail Bakunin, or his works, or the Spanish Civil War (and how it functioned during), or any of the concepts of anarch-collectivism other than the straw-man you're still holding up.

you're smart

[Kritish]

she's waay to young to be his hoor.

Are you sure about that? It is blind_fury after all.

[Superhobo]

you're smart

I know. :cwink:

[Superhobo]

Are you sure about that? It is blind_fury after all.


LOLICON FTW

[Kritish]

Kritish thinks he's Navy Seal material.

He'd probably get kicked out for flirting with his "superior".

Remember Kritish. Don't ask, don't tell.


Don't be projecting there now blind_fury. Not everyone tries to peddle their ass for extra rations like you did.

[Kritish]

Kritish thinks he's Navy Seal material.


Oh and where did I say that I was SEAL material? Sure I'm probably tougher than you but most paper sacks are too.

[blind_fury]

LOLICON FTW

yeah.

It was pretty weak joke.

But keep patting each others ass for lazy insults. No one else is going to do it.

[Superhobo]

yeah.

It was pretty weak joke.

But keep patting each others ass for lazy insults. No one else is going to do it.

Will do, spanky.


I, for one, am going to bed.

[blind_fury]

Oh and where did I say that I was SEAL material? Sure I'm probably tougher than you but most paper sacks are too.
You're all talk dude.

Only an insecure prick brags about how tough they are over the internet. lolz.

[The Original Bamfer]

You're all talk dude.

Only an insecure prick brags about how tough they are over the internet. lolz.

You ooze with hypocrisy.

[blind_fury]

Will do, spanky.


I, for one, am going to bed.
have sweet dreams of being the next Hype Prom Queen. :up:

[Kritish]

You're all talk dude.

Only an insecure prick brags about how tough they are over the internet. lolz.

I'm all talk? You're the one who made a thread about going to Darfur, preceded to get all holier than thou when we called bull and then chickened out.

[blind_fury]

You ooze with hypocrisy.

Yeah, well in Rome...

[The Original Bamfer]

Yeah, well in Rome...

"When in Rome," perhaps?

[blind_fury]

I'm all talk? You're the one who made a thread about going to Darfur, preceded to get all holier than thou when we called bull and then chickened out.
You do realize I've made other threads about Darfur that died quickly because they were boring to most. They didn't even reach 2 pages.

That thread was on its way to 15+ pages. So I don't regret even though some you morons think it makes them a moral authority while you have your thumbs up your asses.

[Kritish]

You do realize I've made other threads about Darfur that died quickly because they were boring to most. They didn't even reach 2 pages.

That thread was on its way to 15+ pages. So I don't regret even though some you morons think it makes them a moral authority while you have your thumbs up your asses.

I can't speak for everyone on the hype but I'd at least hope I had the testes to go to Darfur when I said I was going to Darfur.

[blind_fury]

Not really. But, I've gotta tell ya, you seem like you've got your head more in the clouds than most people like you I meet. I mean, here's the thing: the two ( your anarchism and abolitionism) are two completely different things. There's no thematic relation between the two besides the similar spelling, and to compare your version of anarchism (as you described) to abolitionism is something I should smack you for.
Well thematically I believe anarchy and abolitionism have the same intention. To allow people a greater degree of autonomous freedom despite systematic restraints. Just because you don't see a correlation doesn't mean jack s--t. It's your subjective opinion they don't have any thematic similarities. In no way is that opinion indisputable fact.

If you can't comprehend that but think you can comprehend the theoretical arguments of any reputable anarchist then you deserve to be pimp slapped by your masters.

It still seems you haven't read up on: Mikhail Bakunin, or his works, or the Spanish Civil War (and how it functioned during), or any of the concepts of anarch-collectivism other than the straw-man you're still holding up.
Dude you sound like a parrot when it comes to anarchy. You echo wiki pieces about anarch-collectivism as if you coined the phrase. If your ideas regarding anarchy are limited to the Spanish Civil War and wikipedia then you should be a high school history teacher instead of an active anarchist.

Anarchy isn't just about memorization or impressing strangers with wikipedia links.

In fact its purpose and methodology is different for every individual anarchist.

[blind_fury]

I can't speak for everyone on the hype but I'd at least hope I had the testes to go to Darfur when I said I was going to Darfur.

Well if the next day it was announced that 20,000 troops were being called to action to intervene you should be allowed to step back and reassess the situation. Not be taunted by people who never considered going, never donated a dime, and frankly don't care about anything except getting Hype brownie points from brown noses.

[Harlekin]

Man, where are the oldbies? :(

This thread sucks.

[blind_fury]

They left because you depended on them to improve threads instead of contributing something worthwhile yourself.

[blind_fury]

edit

[Harlekin]

They left because you depended on them to improve threads instead of contributing something worthwhile yourself.
Nah. I wanted to comment on the ridiculously stupid assertions about Holland and legalized prostitution, but you and the other wankers had to fill page after page with basic verbal diarrhoea. At least be funny while you're filling up pages.

[turtlefocker]

Fury are you trying to convince us all to travel to Amsterdam's to pay for sex....

...because you convinced me....

[Superhobo]

Well thematically I believe anarchy and abolitionism have the same intention. To allow people a greater degree of autonomous freedom despite systematic restraints. Just because you don't see a correlation doesn't mean jack s--t. It's your subjective opinion they don't have any thematic similarities. In no way is that opinion indisputable fact.

If you can't comprehend that but think you can comprehend the theoretical arguments of any reputable anarchist then you deserve to be pimp slapped by your masters.


Dude you sound like a parrot when it comes to anarchy. You echo wiki pieces about anarch-collectivism as if you coined the phrase. If your ideas regarding anarchy are limited to the Spanish Civil War and wikipedia then you should be a high school history teacher instead of an active anarchist.

Anarchy isn't just about memorization or impressing strangers with wikipedia links.

In fact its purpose and methodology is different for every individual anarchist.

No, see. The thing is, I've actually READ Mikhail Bakunin. I've read his articles, and in fact there's one rather long one up on my blog at:
http://www.anarchyton.blogspot.com

You should go back and take your own advice. Read the works of these people, Bakunin, Proudhon, Goldman, Bookchin. They're where its at.

And again, no. Much like atheism, anarchists do in fact have one main true thing about them. They believe there shouldn't be any government or hierarchal system. I mean, thats the entire basis of anarchism, and to an extent libertarianism. Probably the one exception to this is a fringe group we really don't acknowledge as anarchists, the anarcho-nationalists.

[teseract]

How Stupid are these people? These are the smart Europeans that a lot of you brag on. They want to get rid of the crime but not the hookers??? :woot: And I want the mice gone but I still want the cheese on my floor!

Seedy activity will attract seedy people. Wanna clean up crime Holland?? Get rid of prostitutes! News Flash!!!!!! Mobsters reeeally like hookers!!! They like drugs too. But Holland doesn't want to give up those things.

Well guess what? The problem will never go away. They want their cake and eat it too.

They don't want to get rid of the Hookers and Drugs cause it's the only thing that draws tourists to Amsterdam. if they would get rid of it they would experience a steep decline in tourism and people would have to close business. Ergo, get rid of the crime, but keep the thing that draws in the crowd. Even you can't be that dense to not get it.

[teseract]

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Gabriele Pauli, who poses on her web site in motorcycle leathers, is standing for the leadership of Bavaria's Christian Social Union (CSU) -- sister party of Chancellor Angela Merkel's conservative Christian Democrats (CDU) -- in a vote next week.


You read the conservative there? You also read the christian there? It's a conservative Christian who is demanding this. In your country this would be a Republican, you nincompoop!

I'm just glad I voted our Liberal Party the last election. The CDU/CSU is killing this country. Christian Conservatism once again destroys a country. What else is new!:whatever:

[blind_fury]

Nah. I wanted to comment on the ridiculously stupid assertions about Holland and legalized prostitution, but you and the other wankers had to fill page after page with basic verbal diarrhoea. At least be funny while you're filling up pages.
aaaall righty then. :whatever:

It's just a random thread on a fanboy website dude.

as long as I'm reasonably entertained I'll post what I please.

If you're not amused then thats too bad. Nobody cares.

[blind_fury]

Fury are you trying to convince us all to travel to Amsterdam's to pay for sex....

...because you convinced me....
Don't get me wrong.

Amsterdam also has beautiful women everywhere who don't offer sex fantasies to anyone with money.

If you're into that kind of thing. :o

[Hunter Rider]

Don't get me wrong.

Amsterdam also has beautiful women everywhere who don't offer sex fantasies to anyone with money.

If you're into that kind of thing. :o

Into what kind of thing ? getting a girl without a C note ?:huh:

[vibeke_T]

Listen, people are horny and if they can't pay for sex, they're going to take it. I don't want to be raped by some dude who could've had the chance to pay for sex.

Legalize prostitution. (Payed for by the women without fathers foundation.)


prostitution is legal in holland. silly.

[blind_fury]

No, see. The thing is, I've actually READ Mikhail Bakunin. I've read his articles, and in fact there's one rather long one up on my blog at:
http://www.anarchyton.blogspot.com

You should go back and take your own advice. Read the works of these people, Bakunin, Proudhon, Goldman, Bookchin. They're where its at.

And again, no. Much like atheism, anarchists do in fact have one main true thing about them. They believe there shouldn't be any government or hierarchal system. I mean, thats the entire basis of anarchism, and to an extent libertarianism. Probably the one exception to this is a fringe group we really don't acknowledge as anarchists, the anarcho-nationalists.

Anarchist may have long-term goals or short-term goals. They may be sociologically ambitious or content with just the personal revelations that come with individualist anarchy.

I don't think every anarchist believes there should be no form of government any time soon. That is far from realistic and a terribly impractical goal. Some just want to use anarchy as a catalyst for progressive change. This is a practical application for everyday anarchy IMO. Screw the snobby theoretical debates unless your prepared to apply and test those theories outside your home.

[blind_fury]

Into what kind of thing ? getting a girl without a C note ?:huh:

Turning down sex fantasy offers from beautiful women because they asked for a financial incentive.

It's not really a big deal.

Sally has big breast and a pretty smile.

Mike likes Sally and approaches her.

Sally doesn't really want to be tied down but has skilled hands.

Sally offers a hand and tit job to Mike for 80 bucks because she figures "why not".

Mike can either decline the offer due to outdated taboos/insufficient funds or get a happy ending with big breasted Sally with teh skilled hands whenever he feels like it.

^^^^What a terrible thing! Shame on Mike and Sally for even considering this. :whatever:

Nanny Laws both suck and blow but not in a good way. :down

[Kritish]

That was a good story there blind_fury. Have you considered getting into the children's literature field?

[Harlekin]

aaaall righty then. :whatever:

It's just a random thread on a fanboy website dude.

as long as I'm reasonably entertained I'll post what I please.

If you're not amused then thats too bad. Nobody cares.
Then I guess you shouldn't ***** about anyone else not "contributing something worthwhile".

[Memphis Slim]

They don't want to get rid of the Hookers and Drugs cause it's the only thing that draws tourists to Amsterdam. if they would get rid of it they would experience a steep decline in tourism and people would have to close business. Ergo, get rid of the crime, but keep the thing that draws in the crowd. Even you can't be that dense to not get it.



Thatyou don't see the sad fact that "hookers and drugs" are the only things drawing people there is a problem in itself.

What a great way to get the best out of your citizens. :dry: Make them drug addicts and hookers. And keep them that way so that we can make money. Don't even consider other more legit and decent ways to attract commerce. Technology? Science? Manufacturing??? Naaaah.....we'll keep the human toilet thingie.


And I'm dense????http://bibleforums.org/forum/images/smilies/lol.gif

[Hunter Rider]

Turning down sex fantasy offers from beautiful women because they asked for a financial incentive.

It's not really a big deal.

Sally has big breast and a pretty smile.

Mike likes Sally and approaches her.

Sally doesn't really want to be tied down but has skilled hands.

Sally offers a hand and tit job to Mike for 80 bucks because she figures "why not".

Mike can either decline the offer due to outdated taboos/insufficient funds or get a happy ending with big breasted Sally with teh skilled hands whenever he feels like it.

^^^^What a terrible thing! Shame on Mike and Sally for even considering this. :whatever:

Nanny Laws both suck and blow but not in a good way. :down

So Mike's a chump ? Gotcha :up:

[Hole Shot]

The argument could be made that if you legalise prostitution, you can chase away the organised criminals and make sure the girls are in safe environments without drugs and aren't being forced into it.

Prostitution is pretty much porno without the cameras.


So make it legal like it is in Nevada where there is absolutely zero organized crime.

[blind_fury]

Build more brothels and fewer prisons.

C11ftLeMjlw

[The Original Bamfer]

Jesus, have you ever not payed for sex?

[Hunter Rider]

Jesus, have you ever not payed for sex?

Oh Bamfer, you act like he's not RP'ing here:huh::csad:

[The Original Bamfer]

It's fun to play along. :ninja:

[Kritish]

Thatyou don't see the sad fact that "hookers and drugs" are the only things drawing people there is a problem in itself.

What a great way to get the best out of your citizens. :dry: Make them drug addicts and hookers. And keep them that way so that we can make money. Don't even consider other more legit and decent ways to attract commerce. Technology? Science? Manufauring??? Naaaah.....we'll keep the human toilet thingie.
And I'm dense????http://bibleforums.org/forum/images/smilies/lol.gif

Marijuana is the only drug that's legal in the Netherlands. You can just as busted for coke there as you can here and despite what Fox Noise told you you're not going to get addicted to Marijuana.

As for those "sad faced hookers", those women completely volunteer for that work. There's no pimps or organized crime forcing them into that life style since it's well regulated by the government.

Besides, it's none of your business. Last time I checked you don't live in Amsterdam.

[blind_fury]

So Mike's a chump ? Gotcha :up:

How is he chump?

Sally wasn't interested in a relationship and neither was he. A chump misses an opportunity to enjoy Sally because he's scared what people will think even though we drives away secretly wishing he could've felt her soft hands on his shaft.

So he gave her 80 in cash instead of expensive drinks or jewelry that makes him a chump.

He's a grown up.

He can separate his sexual urges from his desire for a relationship and doesn't care what the puritans say.

Mike can still go after a girl he wants to marry, court her, get her daddies approval, and live happily after. Doesn't mean Sally shouldn't be an option because of outdated social taboos.

[Superhobo]

Anarchist may have long-term goals or short-term goals. They may be sociologically ambitious or content with just the personal revelations that come with individualist anarchy.

I don't think every anarchist believes there should be no form of government any time soon. That is far from realistic and a terribly impractical goal. Some just want to use anarchy as a catalyst for progressive change. This is a practical application for everyday anarchy IMO. Screw the snobby theoretical debates unless your prepared to apply and test those theories outside your home.

Yeah...you lost all credibility there.

[blind_fury]

shrooms are legal in Amsterdam too.

And they still have one of the highest GDP's in the Industrialized world.

wtf? :huh:

[Hunter Rider]

How is he chump?

Sally wasn't interested in a relationship and neither was he. A chump misses an opportunity to enjoy Sally because he's scared what people will think even though we drives away secretly wishing he could've felt her soft hands on his shaft.

So he gave her 80 in cash instead of expensive drinks or jewelry that makes him a chump.

He's a grown up.

He can separate his sexual urges from his desire for a relationship and doesn't care what the puritans say.

Mike can still go after a girl he wants to marry, court her, get her daddies approval, and live happily after. Doesn't mean Sally shouldn't be an option because of outdated social taboos.

He's a chump b/c he's paying for that ass, It's not the same as buying her a meal and a drink on a date b/c she has no obligation to sleep with you.

She's only giving it to him b/c of the doe not b/c she wants to, a gift not given willingly aint worth having dude.

[blind_fury]

Yeah...you lost all credibility there.

way to cut off the end of my sentance. :whatever:

"any time soon" was critical.

try again.

[The Original Bamfer]

way to cut off the end of my sentance. :whatever:

"any time soon" was critical.

try again.

Sentence.

[Superhobo]

way to cut off the end of my sentance. :whatever:

"any time soon" was critical.

try again.

I stopped reading after that. You don't seem to understand that lack of a hierarchal form of gov't is one of the main foundations of anarchism.

You = t3h idiotz.

[blind_fury]

He's a chump b/c he's paying for that ass, It's not the same as buying her a meal and a drink on a date b/c she has no obligation to sleep with you.

She's only giving it to him b/c of the doe not b/c she wants to, a gift not given willingly aint worth having dude.

What part of she wasn't interested in a relationship but he still wanted to titty bang her do you not understand.

Why do you care if he titty bangs her or not? Because he gave her cash instead of a nice gift?

ok whatever.

[blind_fury]

I stopped reading after that. You don't seem to understand that lack of a hierarchal form of gov't is one of the main foundations of anarchism.

You = t3h idiotz.

a closed minded anarchist = oxymoron

you = just a moron

and if you think you're going to end government anywhere anytime soon you need heavy medication. Being a catalyst for progressive change is the only practical application for anarchy IMO. If you disagree fine but don't state your opinion like fact then resort to name calling when it doesn't hold.

[blind_fury]

She's only giving it to him b/c of the doe not b/c she wants to, a gift not given willingly aint worth having dude.
who cares.

he just wanted to feel dem big ole *******.

you shouldn't have to court a women just cuz you like her juggs.

[The Original Bamfer]

who cares.

he just wanted to feel dem big ole *******.

you shouldn't have to court a women just cuz you like her juggs.

You must not like challenges, huh?

Although, it's evident. Some challenges are just impossible.

[Badger]

You crazy kids make me smile. :)

[Superhobo]

a closed minded anarchist = oxymoron

you = just a moron

and if you think you're going to end government anywhere anytime soon you need heavy medication. Being a catalyst for progressive change is the only practical application for anarchy IMO. If you disagree fine but don't state your opinion like fact then resort to name calling when it doesn't hold.

blind_fury = hypocrite

[blind_fury]

blind_fury = hypocrite

I defend myself in the same manner attacked.

That's different from initiating the attack.

I always try to reason first but when I'm slandered by conceited morons I throw it back in your face.

[blind_fury]

You must not like challenges, huh?

Although, it's evident. Some challenges are just impossible.

Time and energy > 80 bucks

not caring about outadated taboos because of childish peer pressure = priceless

[Kritish]

Why don't you show Superhobo how to be a kick ass ex-military pro-government anarchist like yourself. :up:

[Superhobo]

Why don't you show Superhobo how to be a kick ass ex-military pro-government anarchist like yourself. :up:

I LOLed.


:woot:

[teseract]

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Thatyou don't see the sad fact that "hookers and drugs" are the only things drawing people there is a problem in itself.

What a great way to get the best out of your citizens. :dry: Make them drug addicts and hookers. And keep them that way so that we can make money. Don't even consider other more legit and decent ways to attract commerce. Technology? Science? Manufacturing??? Naaaah.....we'll keep the human toilet thingie.


And I'm dense????http://bibleforums.org/forum/images/smilies/lol.gif

Marijuana doesn't make one an addict. The people working as prostitues do it cause the want to, no one is forced to go into the field in Holland and their government make a **** load of money out of it, additionally to all the nice things like Technology, Science and Manufacturing. Sounds like a win/ win situation. Prostitution is legal here in my country too and guess what, we don't have much of a problem with it. We even built little **** cabins for the Soccer WM so all the soccer fans can get some and we like it that way. If you want to remain in your puritan mindset 'till your dick is all shriveled and got a dust cover and the vaginas of your women got spider-webs that's your business. Meanwhile, we in Europe enjoy our sex lives, thank you.

[blind_fury]

Why don't you show Superhobo how to be a kick ass ex-military pro-government anarchist like yourself. :up:
pro-government?

so I guess all veterans have to think alike.

this ain't North Korea dude.

Veterans can dissent in any way they deem necessary. Whether it's being a radical peace activist, a libertarian who protest the patriot act and even a self-described anarchist who embraces the concept of self-ownership.

It's called freedom of association and liberty in general.

[Superhobo]

I defend myself in the same manner attacked.

That's different from initiating the attack.

I always try to reason first but when I'm slandered by conceited morons I throw it back in your face.

Not really. You're just an idiot.

[blind_fury]

Then I guess you shouldn't ***** about anyone else not "contributing something worthwhile".

That was your complaint.

I simply pointed out the irony.

[Superhobo]

pro-government?

so I guess all veterans have to think alike.

this ain't North Korea dude.

Veterans can dissent in any way they deem necessary. Whether it's being a radical peace activist, a libertarian who protest the patriot act and even a self-described anarchist who embraces the concept of self-ownership.

It's called freedom of association and liberty in general.

"I love the laws that allow me to be an anarchist!"

[blind_fury]

Not really. You're just an idiot.

yeah well you're a poo poo face.

Go back to linking anarchist from wikipedia who were capable of original thought.

[blind_fury]

Jesus, have you ever not payed for sex?

as if that changes what a person is capable of. Your the same person the creator made you whether you pay or not.

When I need someones approval to assess my self-worth I'll let you know.

Don't hold your breath though. :o

[Memphis Slim]

Marijuana doesn't make one an addict. The people working as prostitues do it cause the want to, no one is forced to go into the field in Holland and their government make a **** load of money out of it, additionally to all the nice things like Technology, Science and Manufacturing. Sounds like a win/ win situation. Prostitution is legal here in my country too and guess what, we don't have much of a problem with it. We even built little **** cabins for the Soccer WM so all the soccer fans can get some and we like it that way. If you want to remain in your puritan mindset 'till your dick is all shriveled and got a dust cover and the vaginas of your women got spider-webs that's your business. Meanwhile, we in Europe enjoy our sex lives, thank you.


Europe is in moral decay and you know it. No good thing can come out of this. And it matters not if they are forced into it, they are doing it. And legal doesn't always mean "good".

And beacuse they make a lot of money from it, makes it right?? Bad things usually make tons of money. That's nothing new. But the flip side is that the chickens always.....ALWAYS come home to roost. :dry:

[teseract]

Europe is in moral decay and you know it. No good thing can come out of this. And it matters not if they are forced into it, they are doing it. And legal doesn't always mean "good".

And beacuse they make a lot of money from it, makes it right?? Bad things usually make tons of money. That's nothing new. But the flip side is that the chickens always.....ALWAYS come home to roost. :dry:
What utter nonsense, Europe is doing quite fine! I love what you call "moral decay", or as we call it, "not being stuck up and adhering to a fake double standard concerning sexuality", wouldn't trade it for anything in the world+. Every ****ing nation on that planet has prostitution, even goddamn Iran. The difference between Europe and other places is, that we don't call it a sin upfront and the go on doing it anyways. Moral decay my ass! It's been around since the begining of humankind, not even the most religious societies managed to get rid of it, so why still do the stupid condemnation schtick? It achieved and achieves nothing! We don't need the idiotic lip service of ages past!

[zanos]

HA!! :woot:
Fewer window prostitutes in Amsterdam
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070920/capt.6e3fb72a26a34265b96906f3ea180403.netherlands_ red_light_crackdown_ams110.jpg?x=180&y=121&sig=uGckhJeRsclOXAYvl71CCQ-- (http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070920/481/6e3fb72a26a34265b96906f3ea180403;_ylt=Ap_iJqVdyJT4 5aL4K00S._lbbBAF)

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands - A non-profit corporation has purchased a large number of the buildings where prostitutes pose in windows in Amsterdam's Red Light district, the city said Thursday, in a deal that may lead to a third of the windows being shuttered.
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The move is intended to break a logjam in an multi-year effort by the city to cut back on the windows, which it says are a magnet for crime and money laundering.
Mayor Job Cohen said the move was not intended to get rid of prostitution entirely, since it is part of the area's history and a major tourist draw for the city. :huh: Huh??

"What we do want is to get rid of the underlying criminality," Cohen told local television station AT5.
In Thursday's deal, public housing corporation NV Stadsgoed purchased 18 buildings with 51 windows for $35 million. That is around a third of the windows in the Red Light District, though there are other prostitution zones in the city.
NV Stadsgoed will redevelop some or all of the buildings, and because they are not likely to be worth as much as housing or regular commercial real estate, the city has agreed to reimburse the corporation by up to $21 million.
"We don't know yet what's going to come in their place," Cohen said. "We're very busy making a development plan, and we hope to have that ready by the end of the year."
Amsterdam has been conducting a crackdown on criminality in the city center for nearly five years, using a 2002 law that forces business operators to disclose detailed accounting in order to have their licenses renewed.
The seller in Thursday's deal, "Fat" Charlie Geerts, was ordered by the city last year to close the windows because the city said he failed to meet standards.
But he filed a legal protest and Amsterdam's District Court granted an injunction against closures while he fought the decision.
With its scantily clad prostitutes posing in brothel windows and coffee shops oozing the pungent aroma of cannabis smoke, the Red Light district's seediness has always been part of its attraction.
Prostitution is legal in the Netherlands, and coffee shops are licensed to sell small amounts of marijuana. But the district is a magnet for petty criminals and, authorities believe, human traffickers, drug lords and mobsters — who take advantage of the situation to launder money.
Prostitutes' rights organizations have generally been indifferent to the crackdown, arguing that pimps are the main source of problems, not landlords.

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How Stupid are these people? These are the smart Europeans that a lot of you brag on. They want to get rid of the crime but not the hookers??? :woot: And I want the mice gone but I still want the cheese on my floor!

Seedy activity will attract seedy people. Wanna clean up crime Holland?? Get rid of prostitutes! News Flash!!!!!! Mobsters reeeally like hookers!!! They like drugs too. But Holland doesn't want to give up those things.

Well guess what? The problem will never go away. They want their cake and eat it too.

Brilliant! Why don't we make alcohol illegal to get rid of drunk driving in America! While you're busy criticizing Holland's crime rate dozens of ppl have been the victim of some violent crime in the US. Don't forget about our successful war on drugs. LOL!

[Hunter Rider]

What part of she wasn't interested in a relationship but he still wanted to titty bang her do you not understand.

Why do you care if he titty bangs her or not? Because he gave her cash instead of a nice gift?

ok whatever.

In this flaccid attempt to be some sort of pseudo board rebel you miss the point, i don't care, legalizing prostitution is a good idea as i already said and who said anything about relationships ? You can just pull a woman on the basis that the 2 of you click for some consensual adult relations, it's not either relationships or whores as you seem to think and I'm not talking about this from some taboo or moral high ground you so wish i was, I'm saying, buying ass is for losers.

[knowsbleed]

I'm saying, buying ass is for losers.

<~~playing devil's advocate.

I can see where someone can see the appeal of prostitution. Some guys just don't want the emotional baggage that a one night stand comes with. If a man (or woman for that matter) just wants a no strings attached way to satisfy their sexual urges then legalized prostitution could appeal to that person. They wouldn't have to worry about waking up to a person that they have to figure out how to get rid of or run away from, phone calls asking them to call back, possible stalking...it could get ugly, overcomplicated and just plain bothersome. Whereas going to see a prostitute is just another service that people pay for.

[Badger]

Plus if you can't buy ass, how would one eat bacon? :huh:

[Kritish]

Europe is in moral decay and you know it. No good thing can come out of this. And it matters not if they are forced into it, they are doing it. And legal doesn't always mean "good".

And beacuse they make a lot of money from it, makes it right?? Bad things usually make tons of money. That's nothing new. But the flip side is that the chickens always.....ALWAYS come home to roost. :dry:

Your perception of morals maybe. But then again no one asked you. Quit being a cultural imperialist.

[knowsbleed]

Plus if you can't buy ass, how would one eat bacon? :huh:

trying to get celldog to get started on the Muslim thing again eh? prreeettty slick.

[Hunter Rider]

<~~playing devil's advocate.

I can see where someone can see the appeal of prostitution. Some guys just don't want the emotional baggage that a one night stand comes with. If a man (or woman for that matter) just wants a no strings attached way to satisfy their sexual urges then legalized prostitution could appeal to that person. They wouldn't have to worry about waking up to a person that they have to figure out how to get rid of or run away from, phone calls asking them to call back, possible stalking...it could get ugly, overcomplicated and just plain bothersome. Whereas going to see a prostitute is just another service that people pay for.

The thing i'm getting at is there isn't the satisfaction in getting it when it's not freely given, it's business and thus loses the erotic side of sex IMO, If someone was paranoid about the things you mentioned why not pull a girl and take her to a hotel for the night if you didn't want the awkwardness of leaving/asking her to leave.

[knowsbleed]

The thing i'm getting at is there isn't the satisfaction in getting it when it's not freely given, it's business and thus loses the erotic side of sex IMO, If someone was paranoid about the things you mentioned why not pull a girl and take her to a hotel for the night if you didn't want the awkwardness of leaving/asking her to leave.

ease of access...some people are more easily satisfied (emotionally and/or physically) than others.

[Hunter Rider]

[quote=PapaKeelo;12820004]ease of access...some people are more easily satisfied (emotionally and/or physically) than others.
I just can't see how a man can be satisfied screwing a girl who is only doing it for money and may well be thinking he's a sad ass john while he's humping her.

[Kritish]

In this flaccid attempt to be some sort of pseudo board rebel you miss the point, i don't care, legalizing prostitution is a good idea as i already said and who said anything about relationships ? You can just pull a woman on the basis that the 2 of you click for some consensual adult relations, it's not either relationships or whores as you seem to think and I'm not talking about this from some taboo or moral high ground you so wish i was, I'm saying, buying ass is for losers.

Oh I agree with you one hundred percent. But I still think prostitution should be make legal. It's not the role of the government to be the moral police.

[Venom'sDad]

It's not the role of the government to sanction immoral acts either. :whatever:

[knowsbleed]

I just can't see how a man can be satisfied screwing a girl who is only doing it for money and may well be thinking he's a sad ass john while he's humping her.

Well, I'm sure you don't do a lot of things that are there just because they are legal.

People don't drink...but that doesn't mean other people don't enjoy it.

Same for smoking.

Same for gambling.

Same for pornography

Same for prostitution (in Nevada)

My point is is that there are people who do find these things appealing on different levels. I don't necessarily think that makes them losers.

[Hunter Rider]

Oh I agree with you one hundred percent. But I still think prostitution should be make legal. It's not the role of the government to be the moral police.

Yup, like i said, legalize it and maybe it will help some ppl out, especially some of the girls involved, i have nothing morally against it, I'm just saying for me, get a girl the old school way...With a club over the head:ninja::woot::cwink:

[Spider-Bite]

It is legal over there!! IT'S NOT WORKING! http://bibleforums.org/forum/images/smilies/lol.gif What's your next idea?

Oh it works just fine for all parties involved. Try some viagra, maybe that's why it's not working for you.

Good luck :yay:

[Badger]

I just can't see how a man can be satisfied screwing a girl who is only doing it for money and may well be thinking he's a sad ass john while he's humping her.

My guess on this is; since you are well adjusted emotionally (I assume :ninja:) it holds no appeal. For those not adjusted to emotions and what not; they might see some appeal in buying sex, since it holds no value other than physical release.

[Hunter Rider]

Well, I'm sure you don't do a lot of things that are there just because they are legal.

People don't drink...but that doesn't mean other people don't enjoy it.

Same for smoking.

Same for gambling.

Same for pornography

Same for prostitution (in Nevada)

My point is is that there are people who do find these things appealing on different levels. I don't necessarily think that makes them losers.

How dare you throw Porn in there with those other disgusting pastimes:cmad::oldrazz:

Seriously, Those things are games or recreation but sex man, i dunno, it's part of the getting it that makes it, just buying it loses the ingredient, a beer doesn't taste better when it's free y'know, but sex without passion or lust is like a hand job with a wet fish on your mit IMO:csad:

[Mr Sparkle]

[/b]What a great way to get the best out of your citizens. :dry: Make them drug addicts and hookers. And keep them that way so that we can make money. Don't even consider other more legit and decent ways to attract commerce. Technology? Science? Manufacturing??? Naaaah.....we'll keep the human toilet thingie.
And I'm dense????http://bibleforums.org/forum/images/smilies/lol.gif

LOL, you tell him Celldog.
ever since prostitution is illegal in the states nobody pays for sex anymore! take that Europe!!!
and since Ronald Reagan won the war on drugs in the 80's no drugs have been used by anyone ever!!!!!

stick that in your snooty pipes and then smoke it!
instead of your legal pot!!! which you usually stick in your pipes and then....uh..smoke!!!

yeah!!!!

[teseract]

It is legal over there!! IT'S NOT WORKING! http://bibleforums.org/forum/images/smilies/lol.gif What's your next idea?

Oh it works just fine for all parties involved. Try some viagra, maybe that's why it's not working for you.

Good luck :yay:[/quote]

Exactly, Celldog's argument is akin to "Teh Mafia is using Pizza restaurants as places for money laundry and organized crime, let's Ban Pizza!" :woot:

[Mr Sparkle]

But the flip side is that the chickens always.....ALWAYS come home to roost. :dry:


wow, remember when someone said that about 9-11.
I bet you were enraged about that were you not?

[Badger]

Exactly, Celldog's argument is akin to "Teh Mafia is using Pizza restaurants as places for money laundry and organized crime, let's Ban Pizza!"

I swear to GOD if they ban pizza, I will kill someone.

[Hunter Rider]

My guess on this is; since you are well adjusted emotionally (I assume :ninja:) it holds no appeal. For those not adjusted to emotions and what not; they might see some appeal in buying sex, since it holds no value other than physical release.

Wow, when even lust has lost it's value then times are hard:csad:

[Hole Shot]

Seriously, Those things are games or recreation but sex man, i dunno, it's part of the getting it that makes it, just buying it loses the ingredient, a beer doesn't taste better when it's free y'know, but sex without passion or lust is like a hand job with a wet fish on your mit

I've been following your points regarding buying ass, and have to agree with you for the most part. Prostitution is ok, if it's in the context of adultery. That way it's not cheating because no emotional investment was made to get them in the sack.

[teseract]

It's not the role of the government to sanction immoral acts either. :whatever:
Yep, government sanctions criminal acts, not immoral acts, there is a difference ya know. :dry:

[teseract]

What really makes me laugh thought is that celldog is talking about "Moral Decay" as if what's happening here in Europe is something new. Since the earliest day of western civilization prostitution existed and was used in abundance. The only difference today is that we don't play pretend anymore, as in "I pretend to be a pious, church going member of society who condems the wicked debauchery and then goes into the seedy habor district to get some from a nasty street whore.".

I remember this nice tale about a neighboring city who held a vatican concil, sometime around 1400 A.C., at the height of middle age church power, it was. What I especially remember was the story about the masses of prostitues, being brought into the city to entertain the higher catholic clergy and nobelmen. Seems like Europe always was like that, we just don't put up false face anymore today, instead we stand behind what we do. Heck, they even build a large statute of one of those Prostitutes right in the city. All in honor to the events of the Concil. Take that Lady Liberty. ;) *g*

[chamber-music]

Whats with the anti-europe posts. I don't recall anyone claiming european countries as the perfect place on earth. Its just like America or any other country. Every where has its problems. If there was a perfect counry everyone would want to live there.

[teseract]

Whats with the anti-europe posts. I don't recall anyone claiming european countries as the perfect place on earth. Its just like America or any other country. Every where has its problems. If there was a perfect counry everyone would want to live there.
Ya, what is especially funny is following fact. The more religious a country is the more people want to leave it. ^^

[zanos]

In this flaccid attempt to be some sort of pseudo board rebel you miss the point, i don't care, legalizing prostitution is a good idea as i already said and who said anything about relationships ? You can just pull a woman on the basis that the 2 of you click for some consensual adult relations, it's not either relationships or whores as you seem to think and I'm not talking about this from some taboo or moral high ground you so wish i was, I'm saying, buying ass is for losers.

The only real losers are those who judge what other ppl do with their lives.

[Hunter Rider]

The only real losers are those who judge what other ppl do with their lives.

Yes lets all not have any thoughts about anything and just pass all things as fine:dry:

[zanos]

That's assuming there was something wrong to begin with. What's it to you if someone wants to pay for sex? That type of thinking is just narrow and closed minded.

[Hunter Rider]

Where did i say it was anything to me ? read back, i don't care if someone can only get it by paying, it's just sad IMO

[teseract]

Where did i say it was anything to me ? read back, i don't care if someone can only get it by paying, it's just sad IMO

But aren't we all getting it by paying in the end? Fancy dinner, cinema, concert or theater, going ice skating, presents and so on and so on. Women always used sex to get what they want from men.

[Hunter Rider]

But aren't we all getting it by paying in the end? Fancy dinner, cinema, concert or theater, going ice skating, presents and so on and so on. Women always used sex to get what they want from men.

Lots of women like to go halves these days so they can stay independent due to some guys thinking flowers and dinner gives them guaranteed sex, plus if you are dating girls also buy guys presents, in the end of the day if the woman does have sex with you it's b/c she wants to whether it be in a relationship or a one night stand where you bought her a drink, i don't think it's the same as paying $10 for a blowjob.

[zanos]

Where did i say it was anything to me ? read back, i don't care if someone can only get it by paying, it's just sad IMO

You're saying just paying it for in general are for losers therefore you're placing judgement on other ppl and consequently implying you're better than them.

[Hunter Rider]

You're saying just paying it for in general are for losers therefore you're placing judgement on other ppl and consequently implying you're better than them.

It is for losers and the irony of this coming from you is sweet.

[zanos]

It is for losers and the irony of this coming from you is sweet.

The only irony here is the fact that you are the only loser here for the reasons I stated previously.

[Hunter Rider]

The only irony here is the fact that you are the only loser here for the reasons I stated previously.

Oh no:wow: I'm a loser for the reasons YOU...the hypocrite... stated previously!! hang on while I shed a tear:dry: