Chapter 6: "The Line" Discussion 10/29/07

[gtkilla]

That's...actually pretty funny coming from a guy named gtkilla.

:D

Actually, I just didn't find HRG shooting that guy all that 'badass'. =/ I thought it was pretty dumb, tbh..:o

[Savage]

It looks like Hiro is responsible for starting the evil company due to that betrayal
Llllindermannn. :yay: Someone's theory that this is Kensei's true identity may have some truth to it after all.

[The Chairman]

I thought it was obvious that it was the virus that's the new threat.

[Magneto29]

At first I thought Peter was supposed to be in a dream, but no... just sucky green screen.

I thought that it kinda looked like Suresh in the painting, firing the gun.

[Booznian]

Adam Monroe is:
Kensei. It was explained in a spoiler, and will be revealed in a few episodes.

So...
-Virus breaks out, mass infection.

EEW.

[Matt]

You always talk in absolutes and jump to conclusions based on incredibly small amounts of evidence, ya know that? Maybe you wouldn't be so continually disappointed and pissy if you stopped doing that, ya know?

Or if the show actually started delievering. Really, do we need to see Claire and cheesey-line of the week guy get revenge on a cheer leader? Or Maya get into yet another sticky situation that her powers gets her out of? I mean, seriously. That has to be about the fifth time this season she was captured and her powers got her out of it.

Maybe you are just being apologetic. There is nothing wrong with pointing out a flaw when it is there. It doesn't make me any less of a fan than you because I can see what is wrong.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Resident Evil

Heroes style

[zhulok]

to mechanix:
Oh really cool.

[Golgo-13]

Hmm...wow. Quite the ending and preview.

It clearly seems that Maya's power is what wiped out "93 % of the population". So is that what the big arc of this season is going to be? Sylar gets a new power that can cause mass destruction and they have to stop it? If so, major disappointment.

May powers? Why do say Maya's powers? Because she heading to NY?
I think it has moreso to do with the virus/testing the company and Mohinder are working on....

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I hope Peter comes across Monica in her Super Hero gear :woot:

[LeChuck]

WOOOOT HRG for the win...shoot that sucka, gangsta!!!
But in all seriousness, I hope the next episode is good, but if not people might just see it as a darker version of last year's plot.

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

Next week has awesome written all over it.:up:

[Colossal Spoons]

Peter being in the future will get him no closer to realizing who he is :(

[Mysterio]

Hmm...wow. Quite the ending and preview.

It clearly seems that Maya's power is what wiped out "93 % of the population". or the virus

[Abaddon]

Or if the show actually started delievering. Really, do we need to see Claire and cheesey-line of the week guy get revenge on a cheer leader? Or Maya get into yet another sticky situation that her powers gets her out of? I mean, seriously. That has to be about the fifth time this season she was captured and her powers got her out of it.


And this is the first time she left people to die

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

I kinda want Wes gone.

[Specter313]

Or if the show actually started delievering. Really, do we need to see Claire and cheesey-line of the week guy get revenge on a cheer leader? Or Maya get into yet another sticky situation that her powers gets her out of? I mean, seriously. That has to be about the fifth time this season she was captured and her powers got her out of it.

Maybe you are just being apologetic. There is nothing wrong with pointing out a flaw when it is there. It doesn't make me any less of a fan than you because I can see what is wrong.

You weren't pointing out flaws in that post I quoted. You were jumping to conclusions based on little to no evidence that has nothing to do with what you just talked about. You want to complain about things you don't like on the screen so far, fine, but don't act like you know what's going to happen in future episodes.

[Farren]

HRG rocked it tonight. O man, he better not die. (Though he said that the Mr Nakamura painting was the first and his was the last in the set - I think? - so at least I think he is safe for a while....)

I hate West. I like Monica. I love Sylar - I think he's gotten more evil.

Mohinder is really pissing me off right now. I know he's not a badarse secret agent like HRG, but, seriously, dude, improvise - you can't call HRG every week whining about all your problems.

Right now it is feeling like a repeat of last season with tweaked circumstances and a different power that will cause a major catastrophe.Yeah...this is sorta redundant :csad:

[Mysterio]

It looks like Hiro is responsible for starting the evil company due to that betrayalnah, this is where the legend of kensei and the dragon will be fulfilled.

[zhulok]

Or if the show actually started delievering. Really, do we need to see Claire and cheesey-line of the week guy get revenge on a cheer leader? Or Maya get into yet another sticky situation that her powers gets her out of? I mean, seriously. That has to be about the fifth time this season she was captured and her powers got her out of it.

Maybe you are just being apologetic. There is nothing wrong with pointing out a flaw when it is there. It doesn't make me any less of a fan than you because I can see what is wrong.

I think this is all necessary to show that she is putting all her trust into him and not HRG and then she gets betrayed by flying kid because he works for the company and because of this it may get HRG killed, just my theory.

[Eddie Brock]

WhigiGgf GitkNs Tjsphd Rohtlks?! :wow:

SYSTEM REBOOT - SPEECH FUNCTIONS REPAIRED

WHAT. JUST. HAPPENED?! :wow:

I...Peter...paintings...Noah...NYC...Kensei...

I...I...I can't seem to form sentences. Pardon me. :wow:

[Matt]

Next week has awesome written all over it.:up:

I hope so, other wise I may just wait for the DVDs again. This show is tedious to watch and I am beginning to question why I am. For one or two good storylines a week while sitting through 3 or 4 crappy ones? And I am really sick of hearing "Its building up! be patient!". Episode 6, meaning that we are AT LEAST a quarter of the way through this season (and that is assuming it has a very generous, 24 episodes) and so far nothing. We saw Claire get revenge on a cheer leader and Hiro mope over a girl in feudal Japan. I mean, it gets to the point of do I really want to devote each week to watching the the incredibly slow build up to one or two good episodes per season or just read recaps on Wikipedia and watch the season finale? It seems like it would have the same effect.

[Abaddon]

People get really impatient with the show. Not every character has to be wrapped up in the major arc of the season at this point.

[Mysterio]

so far, this season is in a major sophomore slump. they should put claire's storyline on ice or wrap it up in one episode. boring as hell and redundant. maya and what's his face? boring. HRG? boring. it's just doesn't have the same rhythm as last year.

[Abaddon]

I hope so, other wise I may just wait for the DVDs again. This show is tedious to watch and I am beginning to question why I am. For one or two good storylines a week while sitting through 3 or 4 crappy ones? And I am really sick of hearing "Its building up! be patient!". Episode 6, meaning that we are AT LEAST a quarter of the way through this season (and that is assuming it has a very generous, 24 episodes) and so far nothing. We saw Claire get revenge on a cheer leader. I mean, it gets to the point of do I really want to devote each week to watching the the incredibly slow build up to one or two good episodes per season or just read recaps on Wikipedia and watch the season finale? It seems like it would have the same effect.

But come on, you let one or two boring parts of an episode ruin the show for you?

[LeChuck]

I hope so, other wise I may just wait for the DVDs again. This show is tedious to watch and I am beginning to question why I am. For one or two good storylines a week while sitting through 3 or 4 crappy ones? And I am really sick of hearing "Its building up! be patient!". Episode 6, meaning that we are AT LEAST a quarter of the way through this season (and that is assuming it has a very generous, 24 episodes) and so far nothing. We saw Claire get revenge on a cheer leader and Hiro mope over a girl in feudal Japan. I mean, it gets to the point of do I really want to devote each week to watching the the incredibly slow build up to one or two good episodes per season or just read recaps on Wikipedia and watch the season finale? It seems like it would have the same effect.Haha, you think this show moves slow??? Try watching lost. :woot: :woot: :woot:

[Matt]

I think this is all necessary to show that she is putting all her trust into him and not HRG and then she gets betrayed by flying kid because he works for the company and because of this it may get HRG killed, just my theory.

That could've been done in the one episode where he flew her to the Hollywood sign and got her to lie to HRG. Does it really need to be stretched out over 4 to 5 episodes?

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

Next week also kinda reminded me of Five Years Gone, no?

[Matt]

Haha, you think this show moves slow??? Try watching lost. :woot: :woot: :woot:

Haha, thats why I am waiting for DVDs on that one and just watching it all in a row when the series is done.

[Farren]

so far, this season is in a major sophomore slump. they should put claire's storyline on ice or wrap it up in one episode. boring as hell and redundant. maya and what's his face? boring. HRG? boring. it's just doesn't have the same rhythm as last year.
:wow: His is the best! (imho)

I agree with you on the others though. :cwink:

[Abaddon]

That could've been done in the one episode where he flew her to the Hollywood sign and got her to lie to HRG. Does it really need to be stretched out over 4 to 5 episodes?

It does if they need to delay the payoff.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Now that Claire is a cheerleader again I guess it wouldnt be so bad if we got a break from her & we dont see her again until Peter returns to reality :o

[Frico]

I hope Peter comes across Monica in her Super Hero gear :woot:

:up:

Would be awesome.

Wonder if he's gonna also see himself in the future?

[Matt]

But come on, you let one or two boring parts of an episode ruin the show for you?

No, its not one or two boring parts. It is the whole episode BUT one or two parts that are boring.

[JustABill]

I have no ****ing clue where this season is going.

[The Caped Knight]

Now this is more like it it seems that HEROES is back on track at last .

Great episode .

[Primal Slayer]

Just from the previews its weird seeing Peter use Elles power more then we have seen Elle on screen using her ability. It kind of takes away the specialness of the new charecter.

[Matt]

It does if they need to delay the payoff.

Then drop the character until that time comes instead of wasting screen time showing her play a prank on a high school *****.

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

I'll be back soon. Sylar's story seems interesting, though.

[War Party]

I enjoyed this episode very much. I'm loving what's going on with Sylar and the twins. Monica continues to be awesome. I like how Clare is slowly putting trust into West and at the same time losing trust in her father, which is just setting up for disaster. Peter's storyline is starting to get interesting and I can't wait to see what's this Adam Monroe is all about. And I also can't wait to see the implications of Hiro's actions. There's more, but I can't think of anything else right now. Looking forward to next week.

[Matt]

I'll be back soon. Sylar's story seems interesting, though.

Yeah, but it also seems like a repeat of last year's. Sylar manipulates someone (Last year Suresh, this year the wonder twins) into trusting him and then steals powers and becomes a human weapon of mass destruction. Wackiness ensues.

[The Chairman]

That could've been done in the one episode where he flew her to the Hollywood sign and got her to lie to HRG. Does it really need to be stretched out over 4 to 5 episodes?

Okay, I'm as annoyed by West as much as the next guy, but I'm tolerating it. It's obvious West has something up, and it's completely stupid to reveal it this early in the season.

[LeChuck]

Haha, thats why I am waiting for DVDs on that one and just watching it all in a row when the series is done.
Pfft, in 2010?? Have fun with that, dude. :o

[Farren]

Wonder if he's gonna also see himself in the future?Maybe he'll see Nathan (or some evidence of him) and recognize him from the picture.
I have no ****ing clue where this season is going.Idunno, it looks like it's going the same place as it was last season...:dry:

[The Chairman]

Yeah, but it also seems like a repeat of last year's. Sylar manipulates someone (Last year Suresh, this year the wonder twins) into trusting him and then steals powers and becomes a human weapon of mass destruction. Wackiness ensues.

I don't think Sylar is the threat this time around. Again, I think the virus gets out.

[Golgo-13]

Yeah, but it also seems like a repeat of last year's. Sylar manipulates someone (Last year Suresh, this year the wonder twins) into trusting him and then steals powers and becomes a human weapon of mass destruction. Wackiness ensues.

Patience. The seasons just started. It's all set up..for something.

^I think it's the virus too.

[War Party]

I really don't think Sylar is going to be the huge threat this season. Something else is definitely up. But that's just my guess.

[Abaddon]

Then drop the character until that time comes instead of wasting screen time showing her play a prank on a high school *****.

that wouldn't make any sense. If you want to tell a story, you don't brush a character aside till the big reveal without building things up. Not every character has to be involved in the murder mystery/virus plot/whatever.

[Eddie Brock]

People:

DELAYED GRATIFICATION

Look it up and quit yer b*tchin'. :whatever:

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[Matt]

Okay, I'm as annoyed by West as much as the next guy, but I'm tolerating it. It's obvious West has something up, and it's completely stupid to reveal it this early in the season.

But its been building up for a quarter of the season. EVERY episode so far, for a quarter of a season has been build up. Where is the pay off? Granted, they don't have to give the big season ending pay off this soon, but where is the little, early season story arc pay off? There is absolutely no sense of pacing. There wasn't last season either.

Like I said, either something has to happen with all these "build ups" or otherwise the show will be pointless. Why watch 20 episodes of "build up" episodes for 2 good episodes at the end of the year when I can get the just of it from Wikipedia and watch the last 2 episodes of the season?

[The Caped Knight]

It looks like Hiro is responsible for starting the evil company due to that betrayal

I agree

I'm getting the feeling now more than ever before that Hiro is the real Legendary Kensei , and this other guy is the fake .

[JustABill]

That's all the *****ing in this thread is about. The lack of patience. I think the show is still amazing.

[Eddie Brock]

But its been building up for a quarter of the season. EVERY episode so far, for a quarter of a season has been build up. Where is the pay off? Granted, they don't have to give the big season ending pay off this soon, but where is the little, early season story arc pay off? There is absolutely no sense of pacing. There wasn't last season either.

Like I said, either something has to happen with all these "build ups" or otherwise the show will be pointless. Why watch 20 episodes of "build up" episodes for 2 good episodes at the end of the year when I can get the just of it from Wikipedia and watch the last 2 episodes of the season?
Last Season, we didn't get a "pay-off" until Episode 8: Homecoming.

So you're jumping the gun here.

[Matt]

that wouldn't make any sense. If you want to tell a story, you don't brush a character aside till the big reveal without building things up. Not every character has to be involved in the murder mystery/virus plot/whatever.

Ok, then give her something interesting to do. Either use the character in a way that interests the audience or don't use her at all. They've established the trust with West. Do they really need to spend half an episode showing it in the most juvenile ways possible?

[DarkSuperman]

But come on, you let one or two boring parts of an episode ruin the show for you?

Exactly, some people need to pipe down and be quiet. Far as I'm concerned the show is moving just the same as last year. Only now people use their powers more openly. You have to build to a climax. Its a tv show people. You're supposed to watch continuously. What? You want every episode to be a season finale? Let them tantalize you until they drop the big one on you. Earn the reward and quit being babies.

HRG was Cool, Maya turning to the dark side also cool, Kensei going all Lando Calrissian on Hiro SUPER COOL. I can't wait to see where these decisions take them. Heroes is still the coolest show on the planet despite a couple of you being impatient and hard to please.

[War Party]

The show is definitely awesome. It's better than more than half of the crap on TV right now.

[Xplicit Content]

My personal musings on this episode...

#1 - HELL NAH!! @ Irish b*tch calling Roni a b*tch...Listen b*tch, Elle's gonna fry your ass next and make u even more unfortunate looking.

#2 - Cool @ the iPod Bob gave Monica to augment her power. Dude might actually be cool. I was ready drop kick a bald bastid for taking away one of the coolest powers on the show.

#3 - Hmmm @ this new threat that Bob needs Suresh for. Seems like this Adam cat was friends with Peter before he decided to be a worthless amnesiac...hit your head on the nearest blunt object, Pete...maybe that will jog your memory.:woot:

#4 - Ugh @ borin' ass Japan again...she ain't even that hot, Hiro...get over it. At least it's picking up now that Kensei is starting his career in villainry. Nice going, Cassanova.

#5 - Ha @ the cheerleader ownage. Head cheerleaders everywhere, beware...Claire is bad news. At least this head cheerleader survived.

#6 - Niiiiice @ HRG returning to his career as morally ambiguous.

#7 - Meh @ The apocolyptic future...again. Hopefully it'll be more interesting than the past has been for Hiro.

#8 - Niki is acting way too shady. Hello, Jessica.

#9 - Maya is oh-fically a pawn. Come on, Maya...you're making it difficult for me to like you after we started out so well. So what if it was primarily due to the fact that you're hot.

[The Caped Knight]

I really don't think Sylar is going to be the huge threat this season. Something else is definitely up. But that's just my guess.


It's either Maya's the major threat or The Company's (Cure) drug .

[Matt]

Last Season, we didn't get a "pay-off" until Episode 8: Homecoming.

So you're jumping the gun here.

Episode 8 this year is the 4 months ago episode. Hardly sounds like a pay off, more like more explanitory dialogue to me.

[The Chairman]

But its been building up for a quarter of the season. EVERY episode so far, for a quarter of a season has been build up. Where is the pay off? Granted, they don't have to give the big season ending pay off this soon, but where is the little, early season story arc pay off? There is absolutely no sense of pacing. There wasn't last season either.

Like I said, either something has to happen with all these "build ups" or otherwise the show will be pointless. Why watch 20 episodes of "build up" episodes for 2 good episodes at the end of the year when I can get the just of it from Wikipedia and watch the last 2 episodes of the season?

I frankly couldn't care less. Things are going to build up. I'm glad they're not taking their time and rushing things. I think that maybe before the holiday break we'll get a big turning point.

[Colossal Spoons]

The apocalyptic future thing isn't quite so impressive after it was averted the 1st time

[DarkSuperman]

Ok, then give her something interesting to do. Either use the character in a way that interests the audience or don't use her at all. They've established the trust with West. Do they really need to spend half an episode showing it in the most juvenile ways possible?

Why not? They're teenagers...that what they do. :oldrazz:

[Matt]

Tsk, tsk. I can see this thread is simply full of apologists and the show could be an hour of paint drying and they would defend it, so I'm done with this thread. See ya guys next week, here's hoping for something better.

[Eddie Brock]

Episode 8 this year is the 4 months ago episode. Hardly sounds like a pay off, more like more explanitory dialogue to me.
So this year it won't be Episode 8. It's not a rule.

I'm just pointing out that we had to wait 8 episodes for a pay-off last year. It's been 6 episodes and people are already getting annoyingly impatient.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Everyone here has to think the same way as you do Matt :huh:

[Abaddon]

Ok, then give her something interesting to do. Either use the character in a way that interests the audience or don't use her at all. They've established the trust with West. Do they really need to spend half an episode showing it in the most juvenile ways possible?

well it was a little amusing. to me anyway. The point of this episode was the misuse of abilities, and they did that well.

I think they actually meant for Debbie to be a lesbian and something was to come of that, but the actress joined Desperate Housewives.

[LeChuck]

My personal musings on this episode...

#1 - HELL NAH!! @ Irish b*tch calling Roni a b*tch...Listen b*tch, Elle's gonna fry your ass next and make u even more unfortunate looking.

#2 - Cool @ the iPod Bob gave Monica to augment her power. Dude might actually be cool. I was ready drop kick a bald bastid for taking away one of the coolest powers on the show.

#3 - Hmmm @ this new threat that Bob needs Suresh for. Seems like this Adam cat was friends with Peter before he decided to be a worthless amnesiac...hit your head on the nearest blunt object, Pete...maybe that will jog your memory.:woot:

#4 - Ugh @ borin' ass Japan again...she ain't even that hot, Hiro...get over it. At least it's picking up now that Kensei is starting his career in villainry. Nice going, Cassanova.

#5 - Ha @ the cheerleader ownage. Head cheerleaders everywhere, beware...Claire is bad news. At least this head cheerleader survived.

#6 - Niiiiice @ HRG returning to his career as morally ambiguous.

#7 - Meh @ The apocolyptic future...again. Hopefully it'll be more interesting than the past has been for Hiro.

#8 - Niki is acting way too shady. Hello, Jessica.

#9 - Maya is oh-fically a pawn. Come on, Maya...you're making it difficult for me to like you after we started out so well. So what if it was primarily due to the fact that you're hot.
Haha you're awesome. Let's have secks. :o :huh:

[DarkSuperman]

The apocalyptic future thing isn't quite so impressive after it was averted the 1st time

Well last time it was just a city...this time its the whole world! I think that the virus will be manipulated to target only ordinary humans. I think normal people are the 93% that are destroyed by the virus. Leaving all super humans left. I think that's the ultimate goal of the mystery villain this season.

I'm just speculating though. I could be wrong.

Oh, and yes, LeChuck...that "Super Skill Ipod" was sweet!

[Matt]

So this year it won't be Episode 8. It's not a rule.

I'm just pointing out that we had to wait 8 episodes for a pay-off last year. It's been 6 episodes and people are already getting annoyingly impatient.

Its not annoyingly impatient when you go 6 episodes (again, a quarter of a season) with absolutely NO pay off at all.

[Abaddon]

Tsk, tsk. I can see this thread is simply full of apologists and the show could be an hour of paint drying and they would defend it, so I'm done with this thread. See ya guys next week, here's hoping for something better.

:whatever: puh-lease.

[Matt]

Everyone here has to think the same way as you do Matt :huh:

No, I simply do not see the point of us arguing. I am greatly out numbered here, so I'm not going to sit here and respond to every post of nonstop gushing. We just have to agree to disagree.

[LeChuck]

Matt and I are both probably gonna have to stop watching midseason so we have to make excuses okay people!!! Tony Almeida is calling!!! :cmad:

[Eddie Brock]

Its not annoyingly impatient when you go 6 episodes (again, a quarter of a season) with absolutely NO pay off at all.
Go rewatch last year through Episode 6: Better Halves.

Find me your "pay-off."

...

Exactly, there wasn't one until 2 episodes later. So calm the f*** down and just watch the damn show. :whatever:

[Matt]

Matt and I are both probably gonna have to stop watching midseason so we have to make excuses okay people!!! Tony Almeida is calling!!! :cmad:

Hehe thank god for TiVO huh?

[DarkSuperman]

No, I simply do not see the point of us arguing. I am greatly out numbered here, so I'm not going to sit here and respond to every post of nonstop gushing. We just have to agree to disagree.

How very mature of you.

[boydston_14]

The apocalyptic future thing isn't quite so impressive after it was averted the 1st time

Well last time it was just NY, this year it's the world. Pretty big difference if you ask me.

[War Party]

Its not annoyingly impatient when you go 6 episodes (again, a quarter of a season) with absolutely NO pay off at all.

Why does there have to be a pay off now? Is there a rule that nobody is telling me about?

[OobeDoobBenubi]

No, I simply do not see the point of us arguing. I am greatly out numbered here, so I'm not going to sit here and respond to every post of nonstop gushing. We just have to agree to disagree.

It seems like your only arguing because your ticked at the fact that most people liked the episode & you didnt. Grow up

[Eddie Brock]

Well last time it was just NY, this year it's the world. Pretty big difference if you ask me.
Last Year - .07% of the human population.

This Year - 93% of the human population.

That's a big f***ing difference!

[DarkSuperman]

Well last time it was just NY, this year it's the world. Pretty big difference if you ask me.

Thats what I said. :oldrazz:

[Matt]

Go rewatch last year through Episode 6: Better Halves.

Find me your "pay-off."

...

Exactly, there wasn't one until 2 episodes later. So calm the f*** down and just watch the damn show. :whatever:

Different scenario. Last year was the first season. Whole different ball game. Different dynamics, different style of writing required, and it comes with the territory that more build up is needed. Plus there was the mystery driving it. This season has no excuses like that. You have several already established characters who can be used in better ways then sitting in a pub or playing high school pranks.

[Abaddon]

No, I simply do not see the point of us arguing. I am greatly out numbered here, so I'm not going to sit here and respond to every post of nonstop gushing. We just have to agree to disagree.
no one is gushing. yeah, this season hasn't been that exciting thus far. that doesn't mean it'll suck. that doesn't mean we won't see interesting developments. it doesn't mean the boring/annoying characters won't serve a purpose.:huh:

[Mysterio]

one difference is that this volume isnt an entire season long. this season is being split up into multiple volumes. therefore, your "pay-off" should occur sooner.

[Matt]

Why does there have to be a pay off now? Is there a rule that nobody is telling me about?

Because again, why are we watching if not? Why not just read the recaps of the 20 boring episodes on Wikipedia and watch the couple lead ups and the season finale?

[Matt]

How very mature of you.

I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic or not. Smilies. Its why we have them :cmad: :cwink:

[Eddie Brock]

one difference is that this volume isnt an entire season long. this season is being split up into multiple volumes. therefore, your "pay-off" should occur sooner.
Not necessarily.

Who says every Volume has to have a "pay-off?" (Especially since they're going to be shorter.)

Perhaps "Generations" is just a transition into Volume 3 where you WILL get your "pay-off."

[War Party]

Because again, why are we watching if not? Why not just read the recaps of the 20 boring episodes on Wikipedia and watch the couple lead ups and the season finale?

Because I rather watch it than read about it:huh:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Last Year - .07% of the human population.

This Year - 93% of the human population.

That's a big f***ing difference!

Next year Nathan gets his own "I Am Legend" episode & it is all of the population but him

:wow:

[GNR]

See if Matt is a Smallville lover,then I totally understand where he's coming from.

He was probably expecting a big baddy,another by product of kryptonite, to show up and beat everyone up.Then within the last 10 mins,have one of the heroes get rid of the baddy and save the day.Fin.

[Mysterio]

Go rewatch last year through Episode 6: Better Halves.

Find me your "pay-off."

...

Exactly, there wasn't one until 2 episodes later. So calm the f*** down and just watch the damn show. :whatever:you're the one getting bent out of shape that someone has a different opinion than you. perhaps you should be the one to "calm the f*** down"

[DarkSuperman]

no one is gushing. yeah, this season hasn't been that exciting thus far. that doesn't mean it'll suck. that doesn't mean we won't see interesting developments. it doesn't mean the boring/annoying characters won't serve a purpose.:huh:

Speak for yourself Im still excited and entertained by this show every week! Takezo Kensei rocks, HRG Rocks, Maya is my new Wifey, and Hiro is still Da Man.

I'm not so impatient that I need explosions every week or something ridiculous like that to be entertained. Would be nice if they showed more original 12 though, but I can wait. I'm patient.

[Matt]

It seems like your only arguing because your ticked at the fact that most people liked the episode & you didnt. Grow up

No, I'm getting my point acrossed. Am I allowed to do that or only the people who are yelling "OMGZ!! BST EPISOZE EVR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PWNED! LMAOZ!"

[LeChuck]

one difference is that this volume isnt an entire season long. this season is being split up into multiple volumes. therefore, your "pay-off" should occur sooner.
WHA???:huh: Confuzzled?
And yeah Matt, my DVR is my god. :csad:

[LeChuck]

douba post. :csad:

[Abaddon]

When you have any show with teens, you're going to have to deal with angst, romance, rebellions, childish pranks, etc. That's the way it is. If you don't like it, fine. You don't have to. But don't write off everything because things aren't going the way you'd like them to go.

[Matt]

See if Matt is a Smallville lover,then I totally understand where he's coming from.

He was probably expecting a big baddy,another by product of kryptonite, to show up and beat everyone up.Then within the last 10 mins,have one of the heroes get rid of the baddy and save the day.Fin.

I've watched maybe 2 episodes of that garbage in my life. :whatever: Again, I am not asking for explosions every episode. So please, stop putting words in my mouth. I am asking for...and I know this is a lot. Interesting story lines and some kind of pay off for watching over the past 6 episodes.

[Eddie Brock]

you're the one getting bent out of shape that someone has a different opinion than you. perhaps you should be the one to "calm the f*** down"
Umm...no. But thanks for playing. :whatever:

I'm not saying he has to LOVE the show. But he watched last Season. He knows what it's like. There's no excuse to be whiny and impatient.

Either keep watching the show or don't. But don't come in here and babble on about how "slow" this Season is when its pace isn't far behind last year.

[Mysterio]

Not necessarily.

Who says every Volume has to have a "pay-off?" (Especially since they're going to be shorter.)

Perhaps "Generations" is just a transition into Volume 3 where you WILL get your "pay-off."
you're the one making a big deal out of a "pay-off". i just want the show to not be so damned boring.

[Matt]

Umm...no. But thanks for playing. :whatever:

I'm not saying he has to LOVE the show. But he watched last Season. He knows what it's like. There's no excuse to be whiny and impatient.

Either keep watching the show or don't. But don't come in here and babble on about how "slow" this Season is when its pace isn't far behind last year.

And I've already explained to you the inherrently different dynamics between a show in its first season and a show in its second.

[The Chairman]

No, I'm getting my point acrossed. Am I allowed to do that or only the people who are yelling "OMGZ!! BST EPISOZE EVR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PWNED! LMAOZ!"

LOL, far from the best episode ever (Company Man will never be surpassed). But the show is picking up, without a doubt. I like how the writers are testing the patience of the fans and whatnot. Admit, once everything is revealed, you'll be like, "Wow, that was worth the wait!". Personally, if everything was just answered in such a quick manner, I'd probably lose interest, and so would most.

[Asteroid-Man]

Damn Global TV.... they canceled Heroes for a Halloween Movie! :cmad:

[Eddie Brock]

you're the one making a big deal out of a "pay-off". i just want the show to not be so damned boring.
If I was making a big deal about the "pay-off," I wouldn't keep putting it in quotation marks.

The "pay-off" is just the point where people who require instant gratification finally shut up. That's why I like it so much.

[Matt]

LOL, far from the best episode ever (Company Man will never be surpassed). But the show is picking up, without a doubt. I like how the writers are testing the patience of the fans and whatnot. Admit, once everything is revealed, you'll be like, "Wow, that was worth the wait!". Personally, if everything was just answered in such a quick manner, I'd probably lose interest, and so would most.

No, but give something to keep the audience hooked. There's a reason ratings have been dropping so much this season.

Besides, its a pretty gamble, because what if the pay off is not worth it...then what?

[Specter313]

Its not annoyingly impatient when you go 6 episodes (again, a quarter of a season) with absolutely NO pay off at all.

And right here you have the exact reason why studios don't go right along with all fan demands. If Heroes had to have some big shock value every single week, they'd shoot their wad way too soon and run out of ideas lickity split.

And it's also annoying when people lump in everyone as being "apologists" just because they know how to sit back and have some friggin patience and WAIT because we know that not every episode has to have some mind blowing payoff to it.

[LeChuck]

(Company Man will never be surpassed). .
??? You mean the John Locke rip-off episode? You people really like that ****? :huh: :huh: :huh:

[Matt]

If I was making a big deal about the "pay-off," I wouldn't keep putting it in quotation marks.

The "pay-off" is just the point where people who require instant gratification finally shut up. That's why I like it so much.

Why don't you quit putting words in my mouth? When did I once say I wanted "instant gratification"?

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Besides, its a pretty gamble, because what if the pay off is not worth it...then what?

Thats where the difference of opinion comes in. But that doesnt exist on message board it seems

[Mysterio]

Umm...no. But thanks for playing. :whatever:...you're right. you didn't use profanity at all. :whatever: clearly you are very open-minded and receptive to other opinions.

[LeChuck]

Why don't you quit putting words in my mouth? When did I once say I wanted "instant gratification"?When you pulled out a turkey and showed it your jerkey. :ninja:

[Matt]

And right here you have the exact reason why studios don't go right along with all fan demands. If Heroes had to have some big shock value every single week, they'd shoot their wad way too soon and run out of ideas lickity split.

And it's also annoying when people lump in everyone as being "apologists" just because they know how to sit back and have some friggin patience and WAIT because we know that not every episode has to have some mind blowing payoff to it.

Did I ask for every episode? Nope, just a quarter of a season with the slightest, tiniest pay off. I'm sorry that is so unreasonable and impatient. :whatever:

[The Chairman]

No, but give something to keep the audience hooked. There's a reason ratings have been dropping so much this season.

Besides, its a pretty gamble, because what if the pay off is not worth it...then what?

It could go either way, true. I think it will work out in the end. 24 and from what I've heard Lost both got off to sucky second seasons and they both managed to survive.

[Abaddon]

No, but give something to keep the audience hooked. There's a reason ratings have been dropping so much this season.

Besides, its a pretty gamble, because what if the pay off is not worth it...then what?

then you can complain some more.

[Eddie Brock]

Why don't you quit putting words in my mouth? When did I once say I wanted "instant gratification"?
It's not what you say, it's how you say it. :o

Your lack of patience shows that you don't understand the concept of delayed gratification. Specter313 up there described it better than I could. It's called sitting back and just watching the show.

[zhulok]

Because again, why are we watching if not? Why not just read the recaps of the 20 boring episodes on Wikipedia and watch the couple lead ups and the season finale?

Because thats boring and has no "pay off".:dry:

[Matt]

It could go either way, true. I think it will work out in the end. 24 and from what I've heard Lost both got off to sucky second seasons and they both managed to survive.

I haven't watched Lost, so I don't know. As for 24, while the ratings were not stellar until Season 4...it kept a small but loyal fan base the first few seasons. Why? Because it always delievered (except for the mountain lion...that just sucked).

[LeChuck]

This is why Hype Series will never go past one season...bowpow! :o

[The Chairman]

??? You mean the John Locke rip-off episode? You people really like that ****? :huh: :huh: :huh:

You mean the Enlightenment guy who spoke about the virtues of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and greatly influenced the writings of our Founding Fathers?

Just kidding. I've never watched Lost.

[Eddie Brock]

you're right. you didn't use profanity at all. :whatever: clearly you are very open-minded and receptive to other opinions.
Oh my God! You're so right!

Cursing = not open to opinions!

:whatever:

[Matt]

It's not what you say, it's how you say it. :o

Your lack of patience shows that you don't understand the concept of delayed gratification. Specter313 up there described it better than I could. It's called sitting back and just watching the show.

And again, I'm not asking for something collossal every episode. I've already stated that numerous times. Are you really this stupid or are you just ignoring what I am saying because you have no argument?

[War Party]

Did I ask for every episode? Nope, just a quarter of a season with the slightest, tiniest pay off. I'm sorry that is so unreasonable and impatient. :whatever:

Well you'll probably have to wait till episode 10 or 11 from what I been reading on other sites.

[The Chairman]

I haven't watched Lost, so I don't know. As for 24, while the ratings were not stellar until Season 4...it kept a small but loyal fan base the first few seasons. Why? Because it always delievered (except for the mountain lion...that just sucked).

Um, Heroes still has a very devoted fanbase. The ratings will surely pick up.

[Eddie Brock]

And again, I'm not asking for something collossal every episode. I've already stated that numerous times. Are you really this stupid or are you just ignoring what I am saying because you have no argument?
I have no argument?

And you do?

Oh...that's rich. :whatever:

[Mysterio]

If I was making a big deal about the "pay-off," I wouldn't keep putting it in quotation marks.

The "pay-off" is just the point where people who require instant gratification finally shut up. That's why I like it so much.
if you weren't making a big deal about "pay off", you wouldn't keep talking about it in every damn post. so yes, you are making a big deal about it.

[LeChuck]

You mean the Enlightenment guy who spoke about the virtues of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and greatly influenced the writings of our Founding Fathers?

Just kidding. I've never watched Lost.No, I mean that was an okay episode and I'm not knocking your taste, but it was basically a poor man's Walkabout (probably the best episode of anything ever next to Buffy the vampire slayer's Zeppo.):o

[Abaddon]

so what have you liked about this season Matt? Is there nothing that interests you? Not the Nightmare Man, not the serial killer, not Kensei, not Claire, not the twins, not Sylar, not the Company, not Mohinder, not anything? At all?

[Eddie Brock]

if you weren't making a big deal about "pay off", you wouldn't keep talking about it in every damn post. so yes, you are making a big deal about it.
I talk about it because Matt and everyone else talks about it.

Take a coffee break, chief...because you're not accomplishing anything in here. :whatever:

[DarkSuperman]

On a lighter note...

Monica was looking HOT tonight wasn't she? Haha.

[Matt]

I have no argument?

And you do?

Oh...that's rich. :whatever:

Well lets see, I've stated how television shows differ in dynamic between their first and second seasons. I've stated (albeit not indepth) about the ratings, and I have said my complaints many times. All you have said is "Be patient! this show isn't for you if all you want is explosions!"

[Eddie Brock]

On a lighter note...

Monica was looking HOT tonight wasn't she? Haha.
Hopefully Bob put pole-dancing on that iPod. :ninja:

[Matt]

so what have you liked about this season Matt? Is there nothing that interests you? Not the Nightmare Man, not the serial killer, not Kensei, not Claire, not the twins, not Sylar, not the Company, not Mohinder, not anything? At all?

Likd I said, HRG and Suresh's story lines are good. But they are being incredibly limited. the Nightmare Man, also good. Also limited. It seems like they are diverting focus away from their best plots.

[Mysterio]

Oh my God! You're so right!

Cursing = not open to opinions!

:whatever:no, cursing = your needing to be the one to calm down, sluggo.

[Eddie Brock]

Well lets see, I've stated how television shows differ in dynamic between their first and second seasons. I've stated (albeit not indepth) about the ratings, and I have said my complaints many times. All you have said is "Be patient! this show isn't for you if all you want is explosions!"
OMG! You are TEH Argument King! Lolz!

:whatever:

I have pointed out that this is how Heroes operates, and your crap about the "show dynamic" is completely irrelevant because you are basing it off other shows...whose precedents Heroes does NOT follow.

[Golgo-13]

Every week you guys go through the same ***** fits. If you have a problem with the show, don't ****ing watch it. :cmad:

[Matt]

OMG! You are TEH Argument King! Lolz!

:whatever:

I have pointed out that this is how Heroes operates, and your crap about the "show dynamic" is completely irrelevant because you are basing it off other shows...whose precedents Heroes does NOT follow.

:whatever: Grow up man, quit being apologetic. Seriously. Until you can act like an adult, I'm done arguing with you.

[Eddie Brock]

no, cursing = your needing to be the one to calm down, sluggo.
You're the king of right! I'm such an angry person because I express myself with curses!

Try this one: I'll say whatever the f*** I want in whatever goddamned tone I like, and if you don't like it, I couldn't give two s***s.

Mmkay, pumpkin?

[Abaddon]

Well, there is it. The parts you like best are not necessarily going to precedence over the entire show. Some people enjoy the Claire, and twin stuff, believe it or not.

[DarkSuperman]

Hopefully Bob put pole-dancing on that iPod. :ninja:

Hell yeah! Good thinking my man! We're on the same page! :woot:

[Eddie Brock]

Every week you guys go through the same ***** fits. If you have a problem with the show, don't ****ing watch it. :cmad:
:slowclap:

:whatever: Grow up man, quit being apologetic. Seriously. Until you can act like an adult, I'm done arguing with you.
And quit being impatient.

It's a two-way street, buddy. Why don't you look out your window and see what lane you're in. :whatever:

[zhulok]

Likd I said, HRG and Suresh's story lines are good. But they are being incredibly limited. the Nightmare Man, also good. Also limited. It seems like they are diverting focus away from their best plots.

Thats because they have to spread it out and give everybody the proper build up they think the characters need to get to where the shows going.
Its something alot of shows do, and that doesnt make the show boring.

[LeChuck]

Every week you guys go through the same ***** fits. If you have a problem with the show, don't ****ing watch it. :cmad:Haha, I remember when I came down here last year every week talking about how lost or rescue me (which sucks now) was better. That was fun. :woot:

[Abaddon]

And at least the characters are all connected this season. I don't watch the Maya/Alejandro plots and feel like it's the Maya/Alejandro show featuring cameo's by the Heroes cast, like I did last season with Niki/DL/Micah.

[War Party]

Haha, I remember when I came down here last year every week talking about how lost or rescue me (which sucks now) was better. That was fun. :woot:

Lost is still a more entertaining show to me. But you can't really compare the two, because their vastly different. But I love them both.

[Savage]

You're the king of right! I'm such an angry person because I express myself with curses!

Try this one: I'll say whatever the f*** I want in whatever goddamned tone I like, and if you don't like it, I couldn't give two s***s.

Mmkay, pumpkin?
Man, people sure are passionate about this show.

[LeChuck]

Lost is still a more entertaining show to me. But you can't really compare the two, because their vastly different. But I love them both.
Agreed. :o

[OobeDoobBenubi]

This thread should become a Survivor episode & they ***** about Heroes & the ones who make the least sense get voted off :o

[War Party]

Man, people sure are passionate about this show.

Yeah, it starting to get unhealthy for some.

[GNR]

Matt you amuse me.You keep on trying to justify yourself with this pay-off business,if you really want "pay-off" or weak plots,go watch Smallville and terrorize their boards.Or you could keep posting here and making me laugh.

[Abaddon]

AAANNNNNNNNNNNYYYYWAAAAAAYYY


Next week looks interesting. Maybe Monica will finally don a costume.:ninja:

[Mysterio]

You're the king of right! I'm such an angry person because I express myself with curses!

Try this one: I'll say whatever the f*** I want in whatever goddamned tone I like, and if you don't like it, I couldn't give two s***s.

Mmkay, pumpkin?doesn't bug me in the slightest. if that makes you feel tough, more power to you. however, in the future when you choose to speak that way to someone who isn't resorting to such unintelligent language and tell them to calm down...well, it makes you look like an even bigger fool (at best) than normal.

christ, i just realized i'm talking to a 16-year old.

[Morg]

You're the king of right! I'm such an angry person because I express myself with curses!

Try this one: I'll say whatever the f*** I want in whatever goddamned tone I like, and if you don't like it, I couldn't give two s***s.

Mmkay, pumpkin?

No you won't

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I wonder who hit the warn button

[Morg]

I wonder who hit the warn button

actually was reading this thread

[The Caped Knight]

Can I get some good scene caps of the paintings Please .

[War Party]

Can I get some good scene caps of the paintings Please .

I would also like to see the paintings again. I think I saw one that would confirm a spoiler I read.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

actually was reading this thread

Didnt take any mods for a Heroes fan since no mod ever comes in here unless that button is pressed

[zhulok]

one painting looked like peter but with one eye white like they are when he uses Isaacs power.

[War Party]

And the Kensei vs. Hiro was one too I believe.

[Morg]

Didnt take any mods for a Heroes fan since no mod ever comes in here unless that button is pressed

boy are you wrong, I post and read in just about every thread in here

[DarkSuperman]

AAANNNNNNNNNNNYYYYWAAAAAAYYY


Next week looks interesting. Maybe Monica will finally don a costume.:ninja:

Maybe she'll open up a plumbing biz and finally move her family to the east side and get a piece of the pie? :woot:

[Morg]

And the Kensei vs. Hiro was one too I believe.

Yep, I noticed that one. Looks like Hiro falling in love going cause some big trouble down the time line

[DarkSuperman]

And the Kensei vs. Hiro was one too I believe.

I can't wait for that to manifest!

"Join me, Carp and together we can rule Japan as Father and son!" :woot:

[Nigh7creeper]

watch him end up being his own great great great grandpa or something

[Mysterio]

one painting looked like peter but with one eye white like they are when he uses Isaacs power.
hmm. i think i missed that one. there was the one of the hand holding a test tube; a woman screaming and pounding at a window; guy with a taped-up broken nose with a gun; supposedly HRG (but perhaps Mr. Petrelli) shot in the eye; hiro and kensei fighting...

[The Caped Knight]

I'd like a closer look at analyzing Isaac's paintings .

[zhulok]

hmm. i think i missed that one. there was the one of the hand holding a test tube; a woman screaming and pounding at a window; guy with a taped-up broken nose with a gun; supposedly HRG (but perhaps Mr. Petrelli) shot in the eye; hiro and kensei fighting...
Yah the the one i saw we only got to see for like two seconds then for the rest of the time the haitan is standing in front of it.

[LeChuck]

watch him end up being his own great great great grandpa or something
Haha, gross. :woot:

[Golgo-13]

And the Kensei vs. Hiro was one too I believe.

..somebody post some screencaps.....

[Abaddon]

Maybe she'll open up a plumbing biz and finally move her family to the east side and get a piece of the pie? :woot:

George ran a laundromat service.:o

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I'd like a closer look at analyzing Isaac's paintings .

If you mention the paintings one more time I am going to go Jackie Chan on you

[The Apocalypse]

I thought the guy with the gun looked like Sylar.

[The Caped Knight]

And the Kensei vs. Hiro was one too I believe.


It was very (Episode III) Anakin Skywalker/Lord Vader vs. Obi-Wan Kenobi like .

[Salemdog]

Just a quick one. At the end when Peter and Caitlin are standing in New York in the background one of the billboards has a figure on it which looked like the cover of the comic Micha showed Monica. The St. something or other. Can anyone confirm if or otherwise?

[DarkSuperman]

George ran a laundromat service.:o

Haha, true, but can she really learn that from an Ipod? LOL

[Nigh7creeper]

maybe if she had charlies power as well

[War Party]

It was very (Episode III) Anakin Skywalker/Lord Vader vs. Obi-Wan Kenobi like .

Yeah, it definitely looked like that. Can't wait to see it happen.

[Morg]

I wonder if Kensei is the reason others get powers down the time line

[The Caped Knight]

Yeah, it definitely looked like that. Can't wait to see it happen.


I think just like Obi-Wan kicked Anakin's whiny ass badly in Episode III . Hiro's going to kick This guy's ass as well .

[War Party]

I wonder if Kensei is the reason others get powers down the time line

Kensei is everyone's daddy.

[Nigh7creeper]

I wonder if Kensei is the reason others get powers down the time line
thats what my dad thinks. also thinks Hiro has to stop people from being born with powers by killing him too thus stopping the virus that kills everyone.

[DarkSuperman]

Kensei is everyone's daddy.

Even mine? Sweet!

[Morg]

Kensei is everyone's daddy.

Time well tell who he really is and his connection to the other heroes

[RockSP]

And at least the characters are all connected this season. I don't watch the Maya/Alejandro plots and feel like it's the Maya/Alejandro show featuring cameo's by the Heroes cast, like I did last season with Niki/DL/Micah.

:huh: Maya & Alejandro haven't interacted with anyone except Sylar. What's the difference?

[DarkSuperman]

also thinks Hiro has to stop people from being born with powers by killing him too thus stopping the virus that kills everyone.

I think thats a little much. :o

[Abaddon]

:huh: Maya & Alejandro haven't interacted with anyone except Sylar. What's the difference?

Sylar is the difference.:huh:

[The Caped Knight]

I wonder if Kensei is the reason others get powers down the time line

It's possible, However I've got this feeling (It's some How releated to the solar Eclipse that first appeared in Japan )

[War Party]

Even mine? Sweet!

Especially you.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

The paintings are on the way

[The Caped Knight]

Kensei is everyone's daddy.


The Real Legendary Kensei is really Hiro (Now more than ever , I'm sure of it .)

[Nigh7creeper]

I think thats a little much. :o
well he originally thought before this virus came to be that he had to kill that t-rex in isaacs paintings cuz that was the first thing with the hero gene or some crap

[RockSP]

Sylar is the difference.:huh:

:huh:
Nikki/Mya/D.L. interacted with Linderman, Petrelli, Parkman and Hiro and maybe others that I just don't remember right now.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/256190/1024/Pictures/vlcsnap147420.png

http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/256191/1024/Pictures/vlcsnap147501.png

http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/256192/1024/Pictures/vlcsnap147591.png

http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/256189/1024/Pictures/vlcsnap147303.png

http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/256188/1024/Pictures/vlcsnap147249.png

[War Party]

The Real Legendary Kensei is really Hiro (Now more than ever , I'm sure of it .)

You're probably right

[OobeDoobBenubi]

http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/256187/1024/Pictures/vlcsnap147116.png

http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/256186/1024/Pictures/vlcsnap147071.png

[DarkSuperman]

Especially you.

Kick Ass! I wonder what my power is? Overwhelming sex appeal? Check. Spontaneous wit and cleverness...check. Ability to date super model caliber women I shouldn't be able to get? Check.

I think my powers may be the best of all. :woot:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I think that is all they showed

[Nigh7creeper]

doesnt that one on the left look like when claire got dropped on the steps?

[Abaddon]

:huh:
Nikki/Mya/D.L. interacted with Linderman, Petrelli, Parkman and Hiro and maybe others that I just don't remember right now.

yeah, towards the end of the season.

[DarkSuperman]

definately suresh in that painting...check his panted stubble! LOL

[Morg]

http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/256190/1024/Pictures/vlcsnap147420.png

that one going be a cool fight I think

[zhulok]

oh okay his eye wasnt white it was just a gleam, but he does look surprised like maybe someone just died in front of him or he just got shot or something idk.

[amazingfantasy15]

:huh: Maya & Alejandro haven't interacted with anyone except Sylar. What's the difference?

They've also got Claire's car. Don't forget about that.

[Abaddon]

wonder who mohinder shoots.

[Morg]

oh okay his eye wasnt white it was just a gleam, but he does look surprised like maybe someone just died in front of him or he just got shot or something idk.

or he saw something in a future/painting

[Morg]

wonder who mohinder shoots.

His boss I hope.

[The Caped Knight]

http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/256190/1024/Pictures/vlcsnap147420.png

Battle of HEROES

http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/256191/1024/Pictures/vlcsnap147501.png

This looks like Mohinder


http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/256192/1024/Pictures/vlcsnap147591.png

West & Claire, HRG Dead NOOOOOOOooooooooooooo !!!!!!!

http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/256189/1024/Pictures/vlcsnap147303.png

Niki or Jessica

http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/256188/1024/Pictures/vlcsnap147249.png

The Company's (Cure) drug or Virus .

[zhulok]

http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/256187/1024/Pictures/vlcsnap147116.png

http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/256186/1024/Pictures/vlcsnap147071.png

Yah in that first picture on the painting to the far left definately looks like claire when west dropped her for the prank.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Yah in that first picture on the painting to the far left definately looks like claire when west dropped for the prank.

I think the first picture on the right is

Nikki in the burning building to save Monica

[amazingfantasy15]

http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/256190/1024/Pictures/vlcsnap147420.png

that one going be a cool fight I think

I learned last season to never expect much from a Heroes fight, action is definitely the weakest part of this show.

[The Caped Knight]

http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/256186/1024/Pictures/vlcsnap147071.png


I'm guessing that's Adam beside Peter

[Eddie Brock]

No you won't
I beg to differ.

As long as I'm not:
A. Name-calling
B. Telling people to "f*** themselves"
C. Purposefully overriding the censor

...I'm not in violation of any rules. Diplomatic immunity FTW! :ninja:


Anyway, I'm curious as to why Mohinder is going to shoot HRG. They've had their quarrels, sure, but what would make Mohinder kill? :huh:

[Abaddon]

^the Jessica Dl fight was the only half decent one.:(

[DarkSuperman]

I beg to differ.

...I'm not in violation of any rules. Diplomatic immunity FTW! :ninja:


Like Doctor Doom? :woot:

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

I missed so much stuff while I was gone.:O

[Morg]

Like Doctor Doom? :woot:

That won't work, even Doom gets busted by Dew :ninja:

[zhulok]

I just noticed but at 0:18 seconds on the promo for next weeks episode is definately the scene of peter that is from the painting where hes looking surprised up above, check it out i think hes surprised because he is seeing a bunch of body bags probably from whatever incident is going to happened.
Also who is it standing next to him i dont recognize the guy.
You can see the promo on the tread started for it.

[carrrnuttt]

Yeah, but it also seems like a repeat of last year's. Sylar manipulates someone (Last year Suresh, this year the wonder twins) into trusting him and then steals powers and becomes a human weapon of mass destruction. Wackiness ensues.

Dude. You're a last minute bandwagoner who jumped in with the DVD's, and saw the whole story all at once, instead of living the season patiently, and discussing the various aspects in here, or with any other Heroes fan in-between episodes.

Just because you can't do the same this season, doesn't give you the right to whine about not being able to do the same. It might seem slow, but each and every character is a part of a larger story, and the larger story will not flesh out without the smaller arcs coming together. Besides, half the fun is in speculating what will happen - ask the "Lost" fans - why then should we accomodate you and give you the whole damned story all at once?

Go wait for the DVD's and stay out of here. :o

[Krozee]

http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/256191/1024/Pictures/vlcsnap147501.png







suresh looks like a friggin beast. pretty badass.

i wanna see nikki vs. monica

[hulkamania85]

I learned last season to never expect much from a Heroes fight, action is definitely the weakest part of this show.

Never say never!

Anyway, due to Debbie planning to do that hazing where she points out the girls supposedly being fat, I have a far out there theory. What if in an ironic twist she ends up with the Blob's powers to be really fat? :oldrazz:

[stillanerd]

Okay, my reactions to the various storylines:

Clarie/West: And in today's "After School Special," we learn that revenge can be fun, especially against alcoholic teenage cheerleaders.:oldrazz:

Suresh/Monica/Bob: Come on, did anyone think Suresh was really going to inject Monica with that virus, especially when she is the best new character of the show? Also, nice to see that Bob has at least some moral character to him. Plus, it looks like Adam Monroe is the real big bad of the season. And come on, Niki is so in her Jessica persona now, especially since she was quasi-seducing Suresh.:woot:

HRG: Best storyline of the night by far. Once again, Noah solidifies his "badass" cred by making good on his threats to poor 'ol "Mr. Ditkovitch" from Spidey 2. Course that was obvious once he started speaking Russian. After all, considering how he thinks he's a dead man anyway, he really has nothing to lose. Plus we get more cryptic paintings (Perhaps Mohindir really is the one who shoots HRG as rumored). P.S. Wonder what the liquid man looked like?

Sylar/Maya/Alejandro: Call it a guilty pleasure, but I am soooo looking forward to Sylar, eventually, kicking Alejandro's ass...if only to get this story moving. At least they're over the boarder now and at least Maya didn't act like a complete wimp (although she sure didn't improve her IQ points any). And Sylar's explaining his entire plan to Alejandro in a take off of the 'ol "supervillain monologuing" knowing full well he couldn't understand a word of it...my hand's were rubbing to together like Mr. Burns.

Hiro/Kensei: Okay, I kind of figured that Kensei might have been working for "White Beard" all this time. But for some reason, I don't completely buy the idea that Hiro changed his mind in becoming a hero, and that because he saw Hiro and Yakeo, he goes back to his mercenary ways. Maybe it's because I never got the feeling that Kensei really loved Yakeo in the first place. Or maybe because I actually did root for Hiro when he not only showed Yakeo he had powers but that he told her he loved her as well. Or maybe it's because I just want Hiro back in the present. And yeah, guess we are seeing the origin of Adam Monroe here. BTW, I thought Issac could only paint the future, so how come we see a fight between Hiro and Kensei that could only have happened in the past from the looks of their garb?

Peter/Caitlin: Wow, after the drag-out of the amnesiac Peter stuck in Ireland, we get a very short storyline that bookends the episode. And it looks like we're going to get another "Days of Future Past" scenario out of the deal. Not only that, but it looks as though Peter was working with Adam Monroe (or is that the Peter from the future, and that's why he was able to find the note at that particular shop). Certainly his story has now gotten much more interesting.

[MaskedManJRK]

Question: Am I a moron because I JUST realized it was Sylar with the Wonder Twins? :huh:

[Katsuro]

Question: Am I a moron because I JUST realized it was Sylar with the Wonder Twins? :huh:

If you're saying that you watched the last couple episodes wondering who this new "Gabriel" character was, and just realized it was Sylar, then i'm afraid you kinda are.

[Golgo-13]

Kristen Bell's character ends up in a crate ala Peter in ep 1..?

http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/256189/1024/Pictures/vlcsnap147303.png

[chamber-music]

Good Episode

HRG Being Badass once again and really being the Heros version of Batman. I guess that makes the Hatian Robin :huh:


Claire/West storyline is still boring. I think that West kid is a agent for the company or something. He likes using his powers and the only people who like using their powers on heroes are usually the villians.

I can't wait for Sylar to kill the wonder twins. Their whining about killing people is boring. Not even Maya's hotness can save them from being annoying.

It was obvious Kensei/Adam would want Peter on his side. Petes the most powerful guy in the heroes universe. His motives for wanting to spread the virus though is gonna have to be explained well. With him being immortal I doubt the virus could kill him.

[Nivek]

Dude. You're a last minute bandwagoner who jumped in with the DVD's, and saw the whole story all at once, instead of living the season patiently, and discussing the various aspects in here, or with any other Heroes fan in-between episodes.

Just because you can't do the same this season, doesn't give you the right to whine about not being able to do the same. It might seem slow, but each and every character is a part of a larger story, and the larger story will not flesh out without the smaller arcs coming together. Besides, half the fun is in speculating what will happen - ask the "Lost" fans - why then should we accommodate you and give you the whole damned story all at once?

Go wait for the DVD's and stay out of here. :o

LOL! Thats damn funny to call him out like that. Can't say he didn't have it coming.

[Nivek]

watch him end up being his own great great great grandpa or something


Like Fry of Futurama...

Yeah, I think Hiro is the real Kensei. At least Legend wise.

[RockSP]

yeah, towards the end of the season.

The whole Linderman/Nathan/Nikki thing was in the beginning.

[Matt]

Dude. You're a last minute bandwagoner who jumped in with the DVD's, and saw the whole story all at once, instead of living the season patiently, and discussing the various aspects in here, or with any other Heroes fan in-between episodes.

Just because you can't do the same this season, doesn't give you the right to whine about not being able to do the same. It might seem slow, but each and every character is a part of a larger story, and the larger story will not flesh out without the smaller arcs coming together. Besides, half the fun is in speculating what will happen - ask the "Lost" fans - why then should we accomodate you and give you the whole damned story all at once?

Go wait for the DVD's and stay out of here. :o

In a word, no. If you can't handle other people's opinions, don't go to a public forum.

[Mysterio]

I'm guessing that's Adam beside Peterhmm. I thought it might be Sylar. definitely a biohazard symbol to Peter's right.

[ravana]

Just a quick one. At the end when Peter and Caitlin are standing in New York in the background one of the billboards has a figure on it which looked like the cover of the comic Micha showed Monica. The St. something or other. Can anyone confirm if or otherwise?


Sure was... St. Joan. Possible Monica is about to become a public figure perhaps...

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/4068/vlcsnap88571wa4.th.png (http://img454.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vlcsnap88571wa4.png)

[NateGray]

Hmm...wow. Quite the ending and preview.

It clearly seems that Maya's power is what wiped out "93 % of the population". So is that what the big arc of this season is going to be? Sylar gets a new power that can cause mass destruction and they have to stop it? If so, major disappointment.

Nada if anything what wipes out 93% of the population will be related to the Shanti virus that has mutated.
Now they may tie Maya to that but its the virus not Maya that is the root cause especially since Maya's power is a small filed around her hardly world encompassing.
Heck they dropped hints towards it with Mohinder talking to Bob.

[Nightwing.]

hmm. I thought it might be Sylar. definitely a biohazard symbol to Peter's right.

yeah the biohazard could be a result of the 'cure' that was in the painting. that might go out of control and infect not just the gifted but the normal too.

I also think if Suresh is the one to shoot HRG then itll be something to do with either the nightmare man placing him in a hallucination or HRG was responsible for the death of Suresh's sister.

i think Kensei will have a change of heart. I think he will come back and save them all and win the love of the Blacksmiths daughter. He just doesnt seem evil enough to me.

I also cant see Sylar getting the powers of Maja and Alejandro's purely because their story has gone on too long now and he couldve killed them ages ago like he did the shape shifter. Once his powers come back he will get the shapeshifting one however i think Maja maybe responsible for him being brought down...but then again she might be responsible for the evacuation of the city...

so many routes they can go in...i love this show

[GL1]

Best ep of the season, imho... we got positive progress on a half-dozen storyline... more progress than we've had in the past 5 eps for most of them, and then, if that weren't enough, we have a return to the 'holy crap endings' as one forum poster put it...

Both Hiro and Kensei have performed the deeds of Legendary Kensei, meaning they are BOTH the Kensei of legend... get it? Good.

(Thanks for the pic... I still don't see how Isaac's comic book would end up big in Times Square... but ah well...)

[NateGray]

nah, this is where the legend of kensei and the dragon will be fulfilled.


You think ? I mean it seems like Hiro fubar history and changed Kenesi but I am anxious to see how it plays out in the ned but as of now I think Hiro screwed up big time.

[NateGray]

That's all the *****ing in this thread is about. The lack of patience. I think the show is still amazing.

QFMFT and I loved every episode so far this season and last guess I am just a fan and while I see minor flaws every now and then its hardly worth complaining about.

People have to remember they have a 5 year plan and mainly its a drama based show.

[RockSP]

(Thanks for the pic... I still don't see how Isaac's comic book would end up big in Times Square... but ah well...)

Maybe Peter takes over for him. He just so happens to draw/paint just like him lol

[Mysterio]

You think ? I mean it seems like Hiro fubar history and changed Kenesi but I am anxious to see how it plays out in the ned but as of now I think Hiro screwed up big time.
yes, i do. i think Hiro thinks he's screwed up the past and future, but it'll work out to the same predetermined end.

"The story begins with Takezo wanting to unite Japan. He sought out the dragon of Kiso Mountain[/URL] and asked the dragon to teach him the secrets of the sword. The dragon did accordingly, and taught the swordsman to become "the Kensei, the Sword Saint". Kensei fought his enemies and won, thus saving his people. But then, the dragon came to Kensei's palace, demanding the life of the princess. Instead, the warrior drew his sword and plunged it (http://heroeswiki.com/Dragon_of_Kiso_Mountain) into his own heart. Kensei then handed the heart to the dragon and said, "My love is in here. Take it." And then he died." "Some believe that the Dragon brought Kensei back to life."

[url]http://heroeswiki.com/Kensei_and_the_Dragon (http://heroeswiki.com/Heart)

http://heroeswiki.com/images/8/8a/Kensei_and_the_dragon_-_sword_saint.jpg

http://heroeswiki.com/images/a/a0/Fire-breathing_dragon.jpg
"Some believe that the Dragon brought Kensei back to life."

http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/256190/1024/Pictures/vlcsnap147420.png

[Sawyer]

HRG owned the whole episode. The ending was great and next week looks insane.

[NateGray]

The Real Legendary Kensei is really Hiro (Now more than ever , I'm sure of it .)

See I am mixed about this as Kensei has done several of the legendary things himself at this point.
So really its a combination oh Hiro and Kensei who are the real Kensei and I think Hiro has fubared and needs to correct this history he has wrecked.

[NateGray]

Sure was... St. Joan. Possible Monica is about to become a public figure perhaps...

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/4068/vlcsnap88571wa4.th.png (http://img454.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vlcsnap88571wa4.png)

Thats awesome thanks for the screen cap.
God I just love the way this show ties stuff together.

[NateGray]

yes, i do. i think Hiro thinks he's screwed up the past and future, but it'll work out to the same predetermined end.

"The story begins with Takezo wanting to unite Japan. He sought out the dragon of Kiso Mountain and asked the dragon to teach him the secrets of the sword. The dragon did accordingly, and taught the swordsman to become "the Kensei, the Sword Saint". Kensei fought his enemies and won, thus saving his people. But then, the dragon came to Kensei's palace, demanding the life of the princess. Instead, the warrior drew his sword and plunged it into his own heart. Kensei then handed the heart to the dragon and said, "My love is in here. Take it." And then he died." "Some believe that the Dragon brought Kensei back to life."

http://heroeswiki.com/Kensei_and_the_Dragon

http://heroeswiki.com/images/8/8a/Kensei_and_the_dragon_-_sword_saint.jpg

http://heroeswiki.com/images/a/a0/Fire-breathing_dragon.jpg
"Some believe that the Dragon brought Kensei back to life."

http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/256190/1024/Pictures/vlcsnap147420.png
I can kinda see where you are coming from, will just have to wait and see how it plays out and as much anticipation as I have I can wait :)

[web-head5]

i've been w/ Heroes since the very beginning, and i gotta say this episode sealed the deal: HRG is now my favorite character. hands down. he so freakin bad-a s s in this ep, i almost got chills.

[He-Man]

Great Ep.

HRG kick @ss

Sylar telling Alejandro He's going to kill him.
Cue Evil Laugh...Muhaaaaaa....:oldrazz:

[SuperBatman]

Kristen Bell's character ends up in a crate ala Peter in ep 1..?

http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/256189/1024/Pictures/vlcsnap147303.png

I was thinking that was Nikki.

[Matt]

I was thinking that was Nikki.

But look at the yellow light surrounding her though.

[Mysterio]

i don't think that's nikki

[The Sage]

So H.R.G. and Claude were partners. Interesting.

I'm gonna go ahead and guess you didn't see last season's "Company Man" episode...

[Mysterio]

not that it'll make any difference, but here it is lightened up a bit:

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4843/84331237es7.jpg

[Matt]

It looks as if some sort of yellow light (the electricity perhaps) is coming out of her.

[The Sage]

Sort of an average episode in my eyes. Half of it was good. Half of it was bad. The HRG and Suresh stories were good. The wonder twins and Claire stories sucked.

Wonder Twin story was great because of Sylar. Loved his manipulation of Maya.