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Dark_Lord
10-30-2007, 11:54 AM
LucasArts and BioWare Corp. to Create Ground-Breaking Interactive Entertainment Product
SAN FRANCISCO, CA and EDMONTON, CANADA -- October 30, 2007 -- LucasArts and BioWare Corp. today announced that they have entered into an agreement to create an interactive entertainment product. The product, details of which will be unveiled at a later date, will be developed and published by BioWare and LucasArts, and will push the boundaries of the gaming market by utilizing the strengths of both companies to deliver an innovative, high-quality experience.
"LucasArts has a deep commitment to developing compelling stories and characters for the unique medium of interactive entertainment, and we have been searching for a developer that shares this value. We found this in BioWare," said Jim Ward, president of LucasArts. "Through our previous collaborations, we know that BioWare has an impressive ability to blend gripping stories with technological advancements, and we believe that our upcoming product will deliver an experience that will span the traditional boundaries of video game entertainment."
"BioWare's mission is to deliver the best story and character-driven games in the world, delivering powerful emotional experiences to our fans." said Ray Muzyka, chief executive officer, BioWare Corp. Added Greg Zeschuk, president of BioWare Corp., "The collaboration with LucasArts allows us to combine our passion for creating high quality and innovative experiences with those of a company dedicated to bringing only the finest games to market."
http://www.lucasartsbioware.com/
The Amazing Spider-Man
10-30-2007, 12:14 PM
Well, here's hoping this is the previously talked about Bioware-made Star Wars MMO. *crosses fingers*
GFreeman
10-30-2007, 12:44 PM
I'd rather have KoTOR III than a KoTOR MMO, but I'd take the MMO too.
hippie_hunter
10-30-2007, 12:54 PM
KOTOR III! KOTOR III! KOTOR III dammit!
TheCorpulent1
10-30-2007, 01:05 PM
I'd rather have KoTOR III than a KoTOR MMO, but I'd take the MMO too.
KOTOR III! KOTOR III! KOTOR III dammit!
Yes, if Lucasarts and BioWare are in bed together again, KOTOR III must be their first and top priority. Bring the people what they NEED!! :cmad:
Dark_Lord
10-30-2007, 01:09 PM
I'd rather have KoTOR III than a KoTOR MMO, but I'd take the MMO too.
I agree.
What I'd like even more, though, would be KotOR III that would lead to a KotOR MMO...:woot:
GFreeman
10-30-2007, 01:11 PM
That would be good. It'd be nice to see Star Wars Galaxies - Done Right Edition.
TheCorpulent1
10-30-2007, 01:13 PM
Especially if they called it that. :up:
I hope it's KOTOR 3.
It must be KOTOR 3.
JustABill
10-30-2007, 02:41 PM
I hope it's Howard the Duck.
It must be Howard the Duck.
A plague upon your house! :cmad:
Zenien
10-30-2007, 04:37 PM
Sony Online should just shut down SWG, seriously, what an embarassment.
Fenrir
10-30-2007, 04:39 PM
A next-gen KOTOR would be pretty damn sweet. :up:
WhatsHisFace
10-30-2007, 04:46 PM
Bioware's working on an MMO.
This must be it.
Fenrir
10-30-2007, 05:13 PM
Bioware's working on an MMO.
This must be it.
F**k MMORPGs. :down:
Zenien
10-30-2007, 06:04 PM
Mmo Mmo Mmo!
Addendum
10-30-2007, 07:53 PM
If it's an MMO, I'll pass. Even though I've been a Bioware fan since Baldur's Gate
ProjectPat2280
10-30-2007, 08:00 PM
This is Knights of the Old Republic 3. Its gotta be.
Spider-Vader
10-30-2007, 09:39 PM
I hope it's Howard the Duck.
It must be Howard the Duck.
Now that's what I'm talking 'bout!
I want RC2, yeah I know it wasn't made by Bioware but I still want it.
WhatsHisFace
10-30-2007, 09:41 PM
F**k MMORPGs. :down:
I'm with you on that. I hate More Pigs!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
Addendum
10-30-2007, 09:42 PM
I hope it's Howard the Duck.
It must be Howard the Duck.
The comic books were far, far better than the movie.
GFreeman
10-31-2007, 01:49 AM
Sony Online should just shut down SWG, seriously, what an embarassment.
I'd say they're pretty close to it. I downloaded a 14-day free trial not long ago, and so far, I've seriously seen less than 10 people on this server, and I've been to two planets and that starter station so far. It's deserted :o
Downhere
10-31-2007, 02:32 AM
If they do end up making a KOTOR 3, can they change the fighting system. I couldn't even finish KOTOR because the fighting system was horrible. Didn't even bother playing II.
GFreeman
10-31-2007, 03:24 AM
Considering how successful the first two were, I doubt they'll bother. There's plenty of twitchy action games out there for the Madden crowd.
TheCorpulent1
10-31-2007, 09:24 AM
What was wrong with the fighting system? It worked fine for me. :confused:
Downhere
10-31-2007, 09:26 AM
What was wrong with the fighting system? It worked fine for me. :confused:
That whole putting in the command and waiting for your character to shoot his gun or use his sword/lightsaber was annoying. Before I could get a hit in I'd get killed.
TheCorpulent1
10-31-2007, 09:56 AM
Welcome to turn-based RPGs? There was an auto-pause feature that would allow you to plan your next three moves after every round, too. I didn't see any problem with it.
Downhere
10-31-2007, 10:04 AM
Welcome to turn-based RPGs? There was an auto-pause feature that would allow you to plan your next three moves after every round, too. I didn't see any problem with it.
Yeah I know, it never worked for me but I guess I'm not a fan of turn based RPG's.
TheCorpulent1
10-31-2007, 10:10 AM
Fair enough.
Oerwinde
11-04-2007, 04:19 AM
That whole putting in the command and waiting for your character to shoot his gun or use his sword/lightsaber was annoying. Before I could get a hit in I'd get killed.
It was based on the d20 Star Wars pen and paper RPG rules, and as such couldn't have been implemented in full real-time. I doubt they'll change the whole character/combat system for the 3rd.
I wouldn't mind a good Star Wars action RPG though.
More than anything, I want to see a Star Wars game with pseudo-accurate lightsaber combat. If I hit someone with a lightsaber, they don't get 23 damage... they lose a limb or die... I shouldn't be hacking at someone with a lightsaber and have them hack back. When they do THAT, then we'll be somewhere... KOTORs were on the right track, they had some great blocking animations... but still...
Odd thought: what if... what if KOTOR III IS an MMO?
As much confidence as I have in Bioware, an MMO involves social engineering, not just gameplay and depth, and that makes most of them not fun, either after a minute, after a month or after a year.
TheCorpulent1
11-04-2007, 12:06 PM
You want an action game if you want that kind of lightsaber combat accuracy. One-hit kills from lightsabers would totally unbalance an RPG. Maybe you should look into The Force Unleashed.
KOTOR III would suck as an MMO. I have absolutely zero interest in playing an MMO, so it would be pretty terrible if BioWare decided to force KOTOR fans into playing one of those monstrosities. And yeah, I know they're not forcing me. I'd probably just ignore the game and give up on KOTOR, myself.
Oerwinde
11-04-2007, 04:35 PM
More than anything, I want to see a Star Wars game with pseudo-accurate lightsaber combat. If I hit someone with a lightsaber, they don't get 23 damage... they lose a limb or die... I shouldn't be hacking at someone with a lightsaber and have them hack back. When they do THAT, then we'll be somewhere... KOTORs were on the right track, they had some great blocking animations... but still...
Odd thought: what if... what if KOTOR III IS an MMO?
As much confidence as I have in Bioware, an MMO involves social engineering, not just gameplay and depth, and that makes most of them not fun, either after a minute, after a month or after a year.
If KotOR III is an MMO it won't be KotOR III. KotOR is a single player story based RPG with semi-turn based combat. An MMO is the complete opposite. It would be like calling that Bethesda Abomination Fallout 3.
Zenien
11-04-2007, 04:57 PM
The Pre gimped SWG used the same "Queue your actions" system and it worked really well I thought. I'd have no problem with it returning for a KotoR MMO. Small factoid, talent from the original SWG incarnation went over to Bioware some time ago. Lucas Arts apparently revoked Sony Online Entertainments StarWars lisence in late 2005, and it is a KotoR MMO according to just about everyone. It being a KotoR mmo has all but been confirmed on 1up with them talking about how it being KoToR MMO is soon going to be the worst kept secret in the industry, not to mention they talked about KoToR MMO being in development over a year ago.
But SWG is terrible and only got worse with time, what an embarasment.
GFreeman
11-04-2007, 04:58 PM
It'd be ok if more people logged on, and if it were totally free.
Zenien
11-04-2007, 05:01 PM
Hence terrible. :o
TheCorpulent1
11-05-2007, 07:33 AM
The Pre gimped SWG used the same "Queue your actions" system and it worked really well I thought. I'd have no problem with it returning for a KotoR MMO. Small factoid, talent from the original SWG incarnation went over to Bioware some time ago. Lucas Arts apparently revoked Sony Online Entertainments StarWars lisence in late 2005, and it is a KotoR MMO according to just about everyone. It being a KotoR mmo has all but been confirmed on 1up with them talking about how it being KoToR MMO is soon going to be the worst kept secret in the industry, not to mention they talked about KoToR MMO being in development over a year ago.
But SWG is terrible and only got worse with time, what an embarasment.
Well, I guess that's it for the KOTOR series for me. It was nice while it lasted. :o
You want an action game if you want that kind of lightsaber combat accuracy. One-hit kills from lightsabers would totally unbalance an RPG. Maybe you should look into The Force Unleashed.
Hmmm... do I? Action games also have to be balanced (just to a lesser degree), and they also FAIL to use saber-blocks and dodging to balance Lightsabers and insist on falling back on the old hit-points and/or armor system, instead of trying to accurately depict the intensity of high-stakes one-hit-from-either-side-kills combat from the movies. The Force Unleashed, from what I've seen is no different, if anything, it is MORE ridiculous.
I continue to be mystified about why no one has attempted this level of balanceable accuracy.
That said, a KOTOR MMO has... potential... it could be a great GAME, but how can you bring all those people together without it becoming the cesspool of foolishness that most MMOs devolve into? That's the thing I have absolutely no reason to trust Bioware on... they can make a good game, but an MMO isn't just a game, it's a community... a paying community, and that leads to heartache... heartache leads to anger... and anger...
I'm going to wait for an official announcement... I'd put even money on a Non-KOTOR Bioware Star Wars MMO...
TheCorpulent1
11-05-2007, 11:21 AM
So you want a game where one hit from either side can kill the other person? That would lead to a lot of reloading.
GFreeman
11-05-2007, 01:04 PM
The best way to do it is to have every hit do damage, just like normal, but have a blocking animation play until the death blow. But that still wouldn't work on non-melee opponents, which are the vast majority. And I doubt that most people want to play a one hit kill Star Wars game.
Zenien
11-05-2007, 04:14 PM
I wonder which will come out first, this or the StarTrek MMO.
GFreeman
11-05-2007, 04:16 PM
The Star Trek MMO is supposed to go into beta next year I think, and get released early in 2009, so I'd say that, unless Bioware's been developing this game for a really, really long time without saying anything. I may get into the Star Trek MMO, since I'm thinking that there's a possibility of me being able to have my own Defiant that I can fly around the galaxy, which is infinitely cool.
Dark_Lord
11-05-2007, 04:38 PM
The Star Trek MMO is supposed to go into beta next year I think, and get released early in 2009, so I'd say that, unless Bioware's been developing this game for a really, really long time without saying anything. I may get into the Star Trek MMO, since I'm thinking that there's a possibility of me being able to have my own Defiant that I can fly around the galaxy, which is infinitely cool.
A week or so, ago, when the latest rumor of Bioware's MMO being a KotOR MMO started appearing on various websites, Bioware responded saying that these are just rumors and speculation but they did say that their MMO is currently in a playable form.
I'll see if I can find a link to the statement they made.
Zenien
11-05-2007, 05:12 PM
The Star Trek MMO is supposed to go into beta next year I think, and get released early in 2009, so I'd say that, unless Bioware's been developing this game for a really, really long time without saying anything. I may get into the Star Trek MMO, since I'm thinking that there's a possibility of me being able to have my own Defiant that I can fly around the galaxy, which is infinitely cool.
Until I send a Changling to impersonate your second in command and blow up your warp core. Pwn.
WhatsHisFace
11-05-2007, 05:14 PM
Sci Fi is for n00bs.
GFreeman
11-05-2007, 07:33 PM
I wonder if you can get into Section 31 in the game? That'd be awesome. Then I could just infect those changelings with another virus to protect my Defiant.
Purple Prancer
11-05-2007, 07:34 PM
What the **** is a section 31? :(
GFreeman
11-05-2007, 07:35 PM
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Section_31
Zenien
11-05-2007, 07:36 PM
Since when does Gamera hate Jewish people? =\
I hate the fact that I love the crrappy ship[s more than the good ships, it's going to make the game a little hard to play. =/
GFreeman
11-05-2007, 07:39 PM
I think everyone will be stuck in the crappier ships, I don't think players can actually captain their own Galaxy or Sovereign class ship. The largest player-controllable they've shown is an Akira.
And he's always hated the jews. It's all he talks about at GR.
Purple Prancer
11-05-2007, 07:42 PM
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Section_31
Wow...
I've never watched more than 8 minutes of Star Trek in my life :dry:
GFreeman
11-05-2007, 07:44 PM
Your life has never been touched by the inspirational story of the USS Defiant being the most awesome ship in space and blowing **** up? That's tragic :csad:
Purple Prancer
11-05-2007, 07:45 PM
Maybe the sailboat blowing up was "tragic", but me not witnessing it is glorious
Zenien
11-05-2007, 09:28 PM
Apparently it will come out late 08. :O
WhatsHisFace
11-05-2007, 09:29 PM
****ing listen to meeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
GFreeman
11-05-2007, 09:46 PM
I'm not listening to anyone who's such a terrible person that they hate something as awesome as sci-fi :csad:
WhatsHisFace
11-05-2007, 10:00 PM
That "jump" moment in BattleStar... I mean... "LackLusterStar: Fat People" was awful. I can't believe you thought those were good effects and good acting.
GFreeman
11-05-2007, 10:02 PM
Everyone thinks those are good effects and good acting judging from the praise that is heaped upon the show :dry:
WhatsHisFace
11-05-2007, 10:17 PM
It's canceled. :dry:
GFreeman
11-05-2007, 10:19 PM
No, it still has a season left, and the writers just want to the show to have an ending. If they wanted a season 5, they'd get it without any problems.
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
11-05-2007, 10:36 PM
BioWare made awesome games.
Dark_Lord
11-06-2007, 05:59 AM
There's a Q&A with Bioware on the EA buyout, at gamespot. Here's what they said about the MMO:
GS: Now one of the main reasons EA gave for acquiring BioWare/Pandemic was the upcoming massively multiplayer online role-playing game you're developing in Austin. After listening to John's comments in the conference call, one walks away with the impression that said MMORPG is a wholly owned IP of BioWare--and therefore EA. Is that correct?
RM: We haven't revealed any details about the game. It's super secret right now. It's got all the characters and story arc that BioWare is known for, and I wish I could say more. It's the best of breed of MMO, with the magic BioWare's associated with, and our goal is to make sure people can't stop playing it.
GS: Right, but judging by John's enthusiasm, it sounds pretty safe to say the MMO is an all-original IP. Would that be fair to say?
RM: [Long pause] We haven't revealed any details about the game. It's super secret right now. It's--
GS: OK, OK, I get it.
GZ: I can say one thing: It looks awesome! [Laughs.] We can say a second thing, too: It's really fun to play. We're already playing it. We were playing it just last week.
Here's the link to the rest of the Q&A, if anyone's interested: http://www.gamespot.com/news/6180866.html
WhatsHisFace
11-06-2007, 06:26 AM
I wonder how many MMORPGs people can play at one time...
GFreeman
11-06-2007, 08:42 AM
Two
Timstuff
11-07-2007, 10:04 AM
Personally, I hope that KOTOR3 is not an MMO. MMOs are a waste of money IMO and are too big of a time investment. Give me a new offline Star Wars RPG and I'll be happy as a clam.
TheCorpulent1
11-07-2007, 10:32 AM
Not to mention an MMO would totally run counter to what KOTOR as a series has always been about: solid, semi-turn-based RPG action built around an engaging story. Key word there is story. I certainly don't want a KOTOR game that's just a free-form romp through the Old Republic. I want to know more about the continuing story of that era and how Revan and the Exile and all the other familiar characters play into it.
WhatsHisFace
11-07-2007, 10:45 AM
Two
The correct answer is "one."
TheCorpulent1
11-07-2007, 10:46 AM
The correct answer is actually "none." If you're playing an MMO, you're doing something wrong. :o
Timstuff
11-07-2007, 06:42 PM
ROTFLOL, touche. :D
I'm of the opinion that MMOs *can* be done right... they just haven't been done quite right yet... that includes weaving a quality story deeply into the "free roam" and socially engineering a game that prevents people from being heedlessly obnoxious.
As for Turn based, while KOTOR was awesome, I considered that the one frustrating part of KOTOR... perhaps I just didn't see much strategy in it beyond 'how many grenades do we have?'
TheCorpulent1
11-08-2007, 07:53 AM
The turn-based fighting was a bit weird. It worked for me once I figured out how to use it, but I'm sure BioWare could implement a better system, especially with all the new ground they've broken in Jade Empire and Mass Effect.
Hmmm... and from that perspective, a natural progression KOtOR 3 must look incredibly awesome. I guess I just don't think it's very likely... even seeing this title, I knew, deep down, that it simply wasn't going KOtOR 3... if someone had said it was, I wouldn't even consider believing it without official source.
So...
what makes MMORPGs suck? Anyone, go ahead and go for it...
TheCorpulent1
11-09-2007, 08:02 AM
Too much of a time investment for too little a return, in my opinion. I play games for story and gameplay, primarily. MMORPGs are hours and hours of the same junk over and over to build levels, which doesn't promote either story or gameplay. Also, I do still like some nice graphics, and most of the MMOs have terrible graphics because they were released years ago and can't change for fear of alienating their current consumer base.
That's how I see them, anyway.
GFreeman
11-09-2007, 12:59 PM
They're just really poorly made. It's virtually impossible to tell a decent story with them. Most of them consist of you running up to something and hitting the 1-9 keys until the enemy mob is killed, which gets monotonous as soon as you do it, so they're not exactly fun. And almost every quest is the same, across all games. It's a genre thing. Go here, kill X amount of these creatures, then come back. What, you've already killed X amount of these creatures? Well then, go back and kill even more of the same creatures! And they rinse and repeat this formula for 500+ hours of "content". It's pretty damn awful.
Addendum
11-09-2007, 01:21 PM
If someone is going to play an MMORPG, they'd be much better off playing a pen and paper RPG like AD & D, Rifts, or any of the other ones out there.
Zenien
11-14-2007, 12:21 AM
They're just really poorly made. It's virtually impossible to tell a decent story with them. Most of them consist of you running up to something and hitting the 1-9 keys until the enemy mob is killed, which gets monotonous as soon as you do it, so they're not exactly fun. And almost every quest is the same, across all games. It's a genre thing. Go here, kill X amount of these creatures, then come back. What, you've already killed X amount of these creatures? Well then, go back and kill even more of the same creatures! And they rinse and repeat this formula for 500+ hours of "content". It's pretty damn awful.
Good thing Bioware will save us all.
And embarrass the joke that is Sony Online Entertainment in the process... that's really my favorite part of the whole thing.
Granted MMOs have improved in the story telling department. Now you'll get huge, long, and involved quest strings with a progressing story taht usually has a bit more than "go here and kill this". Well it's either "Go here and do this" or "Go here and collect this" but MMOs will never be able to match the very best of single player offline story driven games, but the best stories in MMOs aren't bad.
GFreeman
11-14-2007, 12:22 AM
I doubt it. Everyone seems content to just rinse off the old formula, rip off WoW's interface, and call it a day.
Zenien
11-14-2007, 12:25 AM
Wow has a good interface, and actually manages to have gameplay if you play beyond level 10. But realistically, I mean, how could a company making an MMO really match up to an offline story driven game. Your hands are tied by the very nature of the game.
What is the very nature of the game, exactly? The fact that thousands of people have to tread the same paths, is that the issue?
Zenien
11-14-2007, 03:35 PM
Pretty much.
MMORPGS = crap.
Let's move on.
Dark_Lord
11-17-2007, 06:25 PM
BioWare (http://www.bioware.com/games/) now lists the LucasArts/BioWare Interactive Product, under the in development category on their site while the MMO and the New Next Gen Game are still listed.
I don't know if it means anything but I do believe that this LucasArts/BioWare Interactive Product might not be an MMO afterall. I doubt the MMO team would have time to work on 2 MMOs. That's if, like I said above, the fact that the LucasArts/BioWare Interactive Product is listed as a different product (not the MMO or the New Next Gen Game), means something.
I really hope it's KotOR III. I watched all the trailers from KotOR and I remembered how excited I was back then...it even made me want to play it again...even though I've already finished it 4 times.
WhatsHisFace
11-17-2007, 07:00 PM
Bioware + LucasArts will most likely always = KotOR.
TheCorpulent1
11-18-2007, 09:23 AM
They'd be dumb for it not to. The KOTOR franchise is a cash cow in addition to just being great games.
Hudson
11-19-2007, 03:16 PM
They were looking for writers for this.
Also this doesn't have to be a Star wars game it could.... Willow:O:O
TheCorpulent1
11-19-2007, 03:40 PM
Willow? Like, the fantasy movie starring that midget dude, Willow? Why would anyone make a game out of that?
Hudson
11-19-2007, 07:33 PM
Willow? Like, the fantasy movie starring that midget dude, Willow? Why would anyone make a game out of that?
that's an enjoyable movie!
TheCorpulent1
11-20-2007, 07:41 AM
It was all right when I was like 5. How would a game based on it be functionally any different from the Hobbit levels of the LotR games, though? They kinda got the market cornered on fantasy midgets.
Hudson
11-20-2007, 09:58 AM
It was all right when I was like 5. How would a game based on it be functionally any different from the Hobbit levels of the LotR games, though? They kinda got the market cornered on fantasy midgets.
it could be a Indiana Jones MMORPGS. killing Nazi's over the internet and finding treasure... awesome.
TheCorpulent1
11-20-2007, 09:59 AM
That wouldn't be too bad if it weren't an MMO.
Hudson
11-20-2007, 10:03 AM
well it's that or American Graffitti;)
TheCorpulent1
11-20-2007, 10:11 AM
Lucas has that TH-whatever-then-a-bunch-of-numbers thing, too.
Dark_Lord
07-17-2008, 04:03 PM
"Star Wars The Old Republic"
"Star Wars Sagas"
"Star Wars Legends"
So why list the above titles? Becasue LFL apparently has trademarked all 3 for “Entertainment services provided on-line by means of global and local area networks, namely, providing interactive computer game software, interactive video game software and interactive computer games and interactive video games, all on-line by means of global and local area networks”
Could one of the titles be that of the future online MMO we have been anticipating and reporting rumors on for some time now? The names were officially registered with the United States Patent and Trademark Office on July 3, 2008 so all of a sudden, the rumors and speculation don't seem so far fetched. Click here to visit the source post at Starwars-Universe.com for a screenshot of the trademark. More as we hear it though you can check out the related links to catch up on some of the rumors we have been hearing over the past year or so.
TheForce.net (http://www.theforce.net/videogames/story/LFL_Goes_A_Trademarking_115981.asp)
"N. Evan Van Zelfden in Los Angeles warns, watch out World of Warcraft. In an interview at E3 this week, Electronic Arts chief executive John Riccitiello said that EA is working on the next version of Star Wars game Knights of the Old Republic, and it will most certainly have a massively multiplayer online component to it.
"We've got two of the most compelling MMOs in the industry in development," said Riccitiello. The first title, based on the Warhammer property, will launch soon. "And the one that people are dying for us to talk to them about -- in partnership with Lucas, coming out of BioWare, which is, I think, quite possibly the most anticipated game, full stop, for the industry at the point when we get closer to telling you about it."
Does Riccitiello mean the oft rumored Knights of the Old Republic Online? "Yes," he said."
TheForce.net (http://www.portfolio.com/views/blogs/the-tech-observer/2008/07/17/ea-to-play-in-knights-of-the-old-republic)
RickO'Connell
07-17-2008, 04:20 PM
Knights Of The Old Republic will be the one MMO I will gladly pay a subscription fee for as long as its on a console since my PC sucks
StrainedEyes
07-17-2008, 04:22 PM
I don't like MMOs.
Spidey-Bat
07-17-2008, 04:49 PM
It better be KOTOR III. The first game was awesome. The story was incredible, the characters were great. I never played the 2nd since BioWare didn't make it. Mass Effect looked amazing and I'd love to see KOTOR get that treatment.
I'd like to see you play as Revan again
It better be KOTOR III. The first game was awesome. The story was incredible, the characters were great. I never played the 2nd since BioWare didn't make it. Mass Effect looked amazing and I'd love to see KOTOR get that treatment.
I'd like to see you play as Revan again
You didn't miss much in 2. the game play was better, but the plot lacked because of how rushed development was.
TheCorpulent1
07-18-2008, 07:43 AM
Ugh, good lord, I hope KotOR 3 isn't solely an MMORPG. I have absolutely no interest in playing an MMORPG.
JustABill
07-18-2008, 07:56 AM
I would prefer it to be both actually. A main single player story, then maybe go online and play in an MMORPG. It could be the chance Lucas Art needs to redeem themselves for the terrible Star Wars MMORPG they did a while back.
TheCorpulent1
07-18-2008, 07:58 AM
That'd work. I rarely play the multiplayer component of games anyway, so I could just ignore that bit.
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
07-18-2008, 08:09 AM
Knights Of The Old Republic will be the one MMO I will gladly pay a subscription fee for as long as its on a console since my PC sucks
http://www.gamegrep.com/news/11696-ea_kotor_mmo_coming_from_bioware_pc_exclusive/
That would be odd though, typically, high-fantasy games like Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights have sold better on the pc but games like Mass Effect and Knights Of The Old Republic have sold better on the consoles. The MMO thing hasn't stopped funcom with Age Of Conan making it for console's also or apparently Blizzard with world of Warcraft: The Molten Core
I would prefer it to be both actually. A main single player story, then maybe go online and play in an MMORPG. It could be the chance Lucas Art needs to redeem themselves for the terrible Star Wars MMORPG they did a while back.
I don't think its a good idea. The development team would stretch themselves far too thin. It is one thing to have a few online maps for competitive play...but you're asking they create two different games and put them in one. An MMORPG is a massive endeavor to take up, as is a regular RPG like KOTOR. If a development team tried to do both and make one game, it would inevitably suck, I think. Best case scenario, it would be like Phantasy Star Online where one aspect is really good and the other sucks (in PSO the offline "story mode" blew and the online game was great) or worst case scenario, both would suck.
Addendum
07-18-2008, 10:45 AM
At least I have the first 2 KOTOR games to enjoy.
Dark_Lord
10-11-2008, 12:07 PM
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/9994/0014325yp8.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9861/0014334qi7.jpg
TheForce.net (http://www.theforce.net/videogames/story/Has_A_KOTOR_MMO_Been_Confirmed_116148.asp)
Tigerking
10-11-2008, 06:52 PM
WHY?!?! Whay cant they make a MMORPG and a console system taht continues from KOTOR2?? Why a stupid MMORPG?!?!
They probably think they can make an MMO that's not stupid.
ProjectPat2280
10-12-2008, 03:20 PM
They probably think they can make an MMO that's not stupid.
If anyone can, its Bioware.
If anyone can, its Bioware.
That's what I'm saying. I know that MMOs in practice suck on one level or other, but as a concept, an MMO is an awesome, awesome idea. If a company that is as awesome as these guys, doing what they're awesome at (Star Wars) wants to get into it, I say give them a chance. If they give us another theme park or grind, sure, call it stupid.
But at least listen long enough to see if Bioware will break the mold on the MMO.
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/9994/0014325yp8.jpg
so... why am I still waiting?
ProjectPat2280
10-13-2008, 11:08 AM
Well the wait is over as to whether or not there will be an announcement. Now we just have to wait for the announcement.
SpideyForPrez
10-13-2008, 01:11 PM
What kind of game is this probably gonna be? I haven't really heard or anything. Is it a console or PC game? Does anyone know that much yet? And what's an MMO?
Swordmaster
10-13-2008, 01:16 PM
The game is in the same series as Knights of the Old Republic, and is a Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game (MMO for short).
William_C
10-13-2008, 01:59 PM
I hope the console versions are on point like the first game. I cross my fingers for it to be similar to Diablo II - play the story in single player, or take it online with other characters along with intergalatic traveling to other places for side missions or just random fun and surveying like they did for Mass Effect
SpideyForPrez
10-13-2008, 03:18 PM
Hmmm sounds like it could be intersting. I never played KOTOR but mostly heard good things. I'll have to check in on this come next Tuesday.
Dark_Lord
10-21-2008, 03:02 PM
1UP.com (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3170784) will have a Liveblog of the event.
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
10-21-2008, 03:13 PM
2:00 p.m. PST, what's that in uk time? 10pm?
Dark_Lord
10-21-2008, 03:15 PM
Yes. Less than 1 hour left.
Addendum
10-21-2008, 04:15 PM
And IGN has the story
http://pc.ign.com/articles/922/922115p1.html
Dark_Lord
10-21-2008, 04:16 PM
Star Wars: The Old Republic (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6199726.html?tag=topslot;title;1)
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3746/klaatuscreen012352screejy2.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2504/korriban193screenfb0.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1259/klaatuscreen010785screecz9.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2605/klaatuscreen011146screekm4.jpg
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/7595/klaatuscreen006337screeta2.jpg
JustABill
10-21-2008, 04:20 PM
Pretty much what we expected. The graphics are far different than what I would have expected though.
Addendum
10-21-2008, 04:23 PM
At least it's not a sequel, though set in the same era.
I'm still not into MMO's so I'm passing on it
Raiden
10-21-2008, 04:34 PM
Looks like they are finally making a Star Wars MMO that doesn't suck, like SWG. BioWare is a proven developer and I think this game will be great.
Spidey-Bat
10-21-2008, 04:39 PM
How much is the subscription?
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
10-21-2008, 04:45 PM
2:11
Scooter: Hey everyone, we are still waiting while people are checking in.
2:11
Scooter: Now the doors are opening.
2:12
Scooter: We just been told no photos or videos. USE IMAGination!
2:15
Scooter: THIS CONNECTION IS NOT VERY GOOD.
2:15
Scooter: Reception sucks here. I have no idea how well this will work.
2:18
Scooter: HOLY SMOKES
2:18
Scooter: I finally have internet!
2:18
Scooter: SW themeQ!
2:18
Scooter: Montage of movie clips
2:18
Scooter: DR Ray on screen talking about Star Wars RPG stuff
2:19
Scooter: all KOTOR footage on screen so far. nothing new
2:19
Scooter: So manu talking heads
2:19
Scooter: Now they're talking about KOTOR 2, wihch bioware didnt do, wheeee!
2:20
Scooter: Now they're babbling about the comics
2:20
Scooter: Dr Ray likes the toys, apparently.
2:20
Scooter: Some Lucasarts suit talks abougt "one of the worst kept secrets in the industry"
2:20
Scooter: Lucasrts suit = Gerry Rodriguez
2:21
Scooter: Darrell
2:21
Scooter: I totally got his name wrong.
2:21
Scooter: He finally called it the online KOTOR
2:21
Scooter: He's talkig about how awesome Buoiware is and how they're friends with EA
2:21
Scooter: Star Wars IP plus BioWare storytelling plus EA coolness
2:22
Scooter: Dr Ray and Greg are now here.
2:22
Scooter: Ray is still the Spock of hte gaming industry
2:22
Scooter: Ray is talking about the rumors, such as Howard the Duck the MMO
2:22
Scooter: I totally would play that.
2:22
Scooter: THX-1138 was another joke idea.
2:23
Scooter: MMO in the KOTOR universe, again, verified by Ray.
2:23
Scooter: "A dynamic period full of jedi and sith"
2:23
Scooter: Story-based MMO
2:23
Scooter: I hope it's like age of conan, but better.
2:23
Scooter: Ray wants to make something innovative and storybased
2:24
Scooter: Now he's talking about the KOTOR3 and going into KOTOR6, but decided to go MMO route
2:24
Scooter: listing the four pillars: exploration, customization, combat, and ...
2:24
Scooter: STORY
2:24
Scooter: story gives MEANING
2:25
Scooter: Ray is talking about living the archetypal moments of the SW universe
2:25
Scooter: Greg is talking about state of the game and how it's playable
2:25
Scooter: "We're not going to be playing it today"
2:25
Scooter: Doh
2:25
Scooter: Greg is dropping mad MMO acronyms like RVR PVP etc
2:26
Scooter: But he's talking about a game for KOTOR fans who don't play MMOs
2:26
Scooter: Companion characters are now the topic
2:26
Scooter: COMPANIONS ARE IN. HK-47 PET?!?!?!?
2:26
Scooter: You can't have Han Solo without Chewbacca is the analogy Greg uses.
2:27
Scooter: Companions will have own stories and quests, and you can manipulate them if you're an evil dark side duder
2:27
Scooter: BG2 is COMPLETELY DWARFED by this game (size-wise)
2:27
Scooter: TRAILER TIME
2:28
Scooter: still plying logos
2:28
Scooter: title scroll about imminent war between sith and old republic
2:28
Scooter: olde tyme space shio,and close up of a crystal thingy
2:28
Scooter: there's an assassin droid on screen
2:29
Scooter: some jedi dude is force choking some soldier fool
2:29
Scooter: DOORS ARE OPENING
2:29
Scooter: EPISODE 1 FIGHT MUSIC whike two jedi are dueling
2:29
Scooter: "your saga begins online"
2:29
Scooter: Star Wars: the Old republic = title
2:30
Scooter: Ray is introducing James Ohlen
2:30
Scooter: Lead designer on KOTOR and Baldur's Gate
2:30
Scooter: He's got street cred
2:30
Scooter: He's going to talk about high level design stuff
2:31
Scooter: KOTOR is the coolest game of my career, and SW: Old republic is even MORE exciting! compelling!
2:31
Scooter: "bringing story to the online space"
2:31
Scooter: takes place 3500 years before movies
2:31
Scooter: there's a haggard jedi looking guy plus some random monster art on screen while he talks
2:31
Scooter: 300 years after KOTOR 1 and 2
2:32
Scooter: New Sith Empire is THE MAN
2:32
Scooter: terentatex= ny Star wars nerd know what this is?it was just onscreen
2:32
Scooter: Faction: Galactic Republic or Sith Empire
2:32
Scooter: classes within each faction
2:33
Scooter: he's talking about individual stories of characters like han solo and luke
2:33
Scooter: that's the dynamic he wants; players with own stories who commune with others
2:33
Scooter: players will have to make hard choices
2:33
Scooter: "good, evil, pragmatic, or unpredictable"
2:34
Scooter: reiterates that companion characters are important to both bioware games and SW movies
2:34
Scooter: companions, player choice, unique classes, and players joining together are the key factors of the experience
2:34
Scooter: now here comes the art director
2:35
Scooter: Jeff Dobson, he's worked on other MMOs
2:35
Scooter: quick aside: no in game art has been shown so far
2:35
Scooter: I WILL DESCRIBE THE GAME LOOK WHEN I SEE IT
2:35
Scooter: all art is concept art so far
2:36
Scooter: Dobson is talking about making it Star Wars and recognizable
2:36
Scooter: oh wait, a kinda cool image of a olde tyme trooper just flashed by
2:36
Scooter: looks pretty KOTOR-ish
2:37
Scooter: it's a trooper design i haven't really seen
2:37
Scooter: NOT EVEN ANTHONY knows what the trooper was!
2:37
Scooter: he's a huge SW nerd
2:38
Scooter: he's talking about how they gotta get the character art right, since that's ALL YOU SEE IN AN MMO
2:38
Scooter: why is he talking about broad shoulders and square jaws if you're going to wear space armor? that's a mystery to me.
2:39
Scooter: AHA, he just talks about how the art is designed to run across ALL range of PCs
2:39
Scooter: he's talking about a video that's coming up
2:40
Scooter: pre-production footage marker just flashed by
2:40
Scooter: unoptimized framerate!
2:40
Scooter: just location shots so far
2:40
Scooter: now jedi and droids and combat sequences
2:40
Scooter: no UI, so i cant tell you how it's actually playing out.
2:41
Scooter: anythony said it reminded him of age of conan with a bit of WoW
2:41
Scooter: combat-aninmation wise
2:41
Scooter: choppy jedi swings
2:41
Scooter: back to the title card
2:42
Scooter: ray is talking about general overview stuff
2:42
Scooter: there will be PvP, raids, etc.
2:42
Scooter: still no specifics about classes or anything
2:43
Scooter: it's still early, and now they're done talking
2:43
Scooter: So really, all that's been said and shown is some choppy combat and talks about story stuff without specifics
2:43
Scooter: we'll have breakout sessions, and will try to get more info from them
2:43
Scooter: Q&A time!
2:44
Scooter: is the footage pre-alpha?
2:44
Scooter: YES
2:44
Scooter: howlong have you been working on this game?
2:44
Scooter: NO DETAILS ON SCHEDULE
2:44
Scooter: just that it's a typical bioware game
2:44
Scooter: CONSOLE PLATFORMS?
2:45
Scooter: goeff keighley asked that
2:45
Scooter: "we'r eonly talking about PC... TODAY"
2:45
Scooter: hmmmmmm
2:45
Scooter: someone just asked if there's a subscription
2:45
Scooter: "no details on business model just yet"
2:45
Scooter: someone just asked for release date
2:46
Scooter: "some point IN THE FUTURE"
2:46
Scooter: "why go faction and then side instead of organic 'make a new dude and just go'" begining
2:46
Scooter: there is a design reason for that
2:46
Scooter: "what about the future of SWG?"
2:46
Scooter: "today we're talking about old republic"
2:47
Scooter: open beta?
2:47
Scooter: "AT SOME POINT"
2:47
Scooter: anything about classes or races?
There's more in that link Dark_Lord posted.
ProjectPat2280
10-21-2008, 06:06 PM
Not feeling the player models at all. The lightsabers are WAY out of proportion and just looks off. Hopefully its just an early player model.
Spidey-Bat
10-21-2008, 06:18 PM
They look like they are using the lightsaber toys.
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
10-21-2008, 06:43 PM
http://uk.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/starwarstheoldrepublic/video/6199708
Danalys
10-21-2008, 06:49 PM
i'm not a fan of MMOs and not even the brilliance of KOTOR could make me play one. why couldn't it just be KOTOR 3 :(
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
10-21-2008, 07:16 PM
why couldn't it just be KOTOR 3 :(
Video link explains.
This should probably be in the pc section imo, it's doesn't seem to be a multiplatform game.
ProjectPat2280
10-21-2008, 11:36 PM
Video link explains.
This should probably be in the pc section imo, it's doesn't seem to be a multiplatform game.
Its not.... yet.
I wouldnt doubt if this came to a console tho.
JustABill
10-22-2008, 02:54 PM
If it comes to a console it'll probably be 360.
Most likely only going to be 360/PC. And this is coming from a proud PS3 owner.
Spider-Jay
10-22-2008, 10:28 PM
Sounds good, but like others have said, I`m not an MMO player.
I really wished it was KOTOR 3.:csad:
ProjectPat2280
10-22-2008, 11:22 PM
If it comes to a console it'll probably be 360.
Most likely only going to be 360/PC. And this is coming from a proud PS3 owner.
Eh maybe, but with the growing community of the PSN and the fact that they would be able to make even more money by going to all the systems, i wouldn't put it past them. Plus EA own Bioware and when EA sees an opportunity to milk the market and make a buck, they usually do it.
I do believe this makes it to consoles tho.
hippie_hunter
10-23-2008, 07:40 PM
Electronic Arts exec Frank Gibeau has confirmed that console versions of Star Wars: The Old Republic and Warhammer Online are "under consideration".
Speaking to Eurogamer at the press event announcing SWTOR for PC, he said, "We're definitely looking at the opportunity to bring the MMO experience to console, without question.
"We've got this product, and we've got Warhammer at play," he continued, "So we're trying to look at the primary research required to understand how would you deploy it, what the client size looks like, how big is the back-end, what the play experience looks like... Once we've got some of those questions answered, we'll be able to decide which is the right play to go after."
When asked if he was specifically referring to SWTOR and Warhammer Online, Gibeau replied, "They're both under consideration." However, he added, "We're not really in a place to commit or announce anything specific with regards to those."
Gibeau is president of the EA Games label, which published Warhammer Online for PC in September. LucasArts is publishing SWTOR, but the game is being developed by BioWare - which is owned by EA. So what's in it for them?
"There is a set of business terms that have been worked out in terms of how the companies are going to relate, and so it's a typical, standard relationship from that standpoint," Gibeau stated. "This is a BioWare-Lucas-built product, and EA is a partner in that because we own BioWare."
The EA exec declined to discuss the financial terms of the deal or whether EA will have a profit share in SWTOR, simply stating, "I'm not going to go into that."
A release date for Star Wars: The Old Republic has yet to be announced.
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=264601
hippie_hunter
10-23-2008, 07:41 PM
LucasArts online head Tom Nichols has told VG247 that upcoming BioWare MMO Star Wars: The Old Republic is a PC-only game, ostensibly conflicting a report that the title is in consideration for console release.
“It is PC-only,” said Nichols when asked if KOTOR’s Xbox tradition would be upheld.
When pushed on whether or not the game would come to consoles in the future, Nichols there was only one version currently in the works.
“We’re just focussed on the PC platform at this time,” he added.
Nichols was speaking at the San Francisco launch of The Old Republic, on the same day EA Games president Frank Gibeau told Eurogamer there was a possibility the title could move to consoles.
“They’re both under consideration,” he said, speaking of TOR and Mythic’s Warhammer Online, but added, “We’re not really in a place to commit or announce anything specific with regards to those.”
Upshot: don’t expect The Old Republic on your 360 any time soon.
http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/23/star-wars-the-old-republic-is-pc-only-says-lucasarts-boss/
Dark_Lord
11-08-2008, 02:09 PM
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/6138/screenshot207221fr3.jpg
Preview (CVG.com) (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=201265)
Dark_Lord
11-28-2008, 01:37 AM
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/503/ss20081128forcelightingum9.jpg
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/862/ss20081128keldorfullfm9.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6876/ss20081128tythonenclavexn3.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6387/ss20081128sithacademyfudv7.jpg
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7171/ss20081128jedinexufullql6.jpg
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1900/ss20081128ancientruinsfbv4.jpg
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2160/ss20081128darklightfullfd0.jpg
The Squirrel
11-28-2008, 12:07 PM
I would so pay for this.
ProjectPat2280
11-28-2008, 12:57 PM
Yea, that last picture is really cool. It looks as if theyve fixed the "big gulp" size lightsaber hilts.
Philly Phanboy
11-28-2008, 03:54 PM
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2160/ss20081128darklightfullfd0.jpg
Love this one. The lighting from the lightsabers is wicked. :up:
Dark_Lord
12-12-2008, 03:28 PM
Video Documentary (First In-Game Footage) (http://www.swtor.com/media/vidcasts/viddoc001)
TheCorpulent1
12-12-2008, 03:43 PM
Not interested. I'm sure it'll be great and all, but I want KOTOR 3 and the continuation of Revan's story, not a loosely-connected MMO. I've stayed MMO-free and plan to continue doing so for the rest of my life, if possible.
Nightwatcher11
12-12-2008, 04:57 PM
It looks as if George Lucas came and shat on this... There's creatures from his movies and character look-a-likes, that makes the game look less serious to me. It reminds me of the Clone Wars tv show style. I don't like the huge lightsabers either. I don't understand why they abandonned their old style from the original KOTOR. It's one of the reasons why I loved it so much... :( It didn't look like anyother game. W/e.
I'm still very dissappointed and not impressed. Will I give it a chance? Of-course. I love KOTOR to death and would hate to just discard the latest installment because of a few thoughts after seeing screenshots and 2 mins of gameplay. I will say however this game looks like it needs ALOT of work and is far from being done. Thus there's still hope...
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
12-12-2008, 05:08 PM
I don't understand why they abandonned their old style from the original KOTOR. It's one of the reasons why I loved it so much... :( It didn't look like anyother game. W/e.
It tells you in the video Dark Lord posted.
They are right in there stylized thinking, it isn't a game people play from 8 hours then never pick up again, people will be playing it for years...
Besides the point, it's not THAT diffrent.
http://forums.filefront.com/attachments/kotor-general-discussion/57130d1186949936-kotor-pictures-lightsaber.png
http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/922/922115/bioware-mmo-project-untitled-20081021113734269.jpg
http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/63.jpg
http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/922/922115/bioware-mmo-project-untitled-20081021113627678.jpg
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2160/ss20081128darklightfullfd0.jpg
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/previews/xbox/star_wars_knights_old_republic/star_wars_knights_old_republic_3.jpg
TheCorpulent1
12-12-2008, 05:43 PM
I rather like the new style, myself. It's much more vibrant and colorful than the KOTOR games. Much as I love those games, they could be pretty drab in a lot of areas.
Dark_Lord
12-27-2008, 02:09 AM
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/6816/ss20081226droidswe1.jpg
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/9781/ss20081226droidfiringak9.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/3191/ss20081226korribansandsme1.jpg
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/1609/ss20081226jeditempleup3.jpg
Dark_Lord
12-27-2008, 02:10 AM
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/9576/ss20081226tythonvillagekn5.jpg
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/331/ss20081226meetingroomvh9.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6760/ss20081226sithacademyze8.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/4475/ss20081226attackplanssa3.jpg
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
12-27-2008, 03:27 AM
If they do decide to make the game free with micro-transactions optional rather than monthly subscription fee's I think it would increase there chances of significally dented world of warcraft's 11.5 user base. EA seems to be toying with the idea with a few games in it's catague like Fifa Online and Battlefield Hereos.
The only worrying thing is if X user buys a micro-transaction Item, he or she has a significant advantage of user Y with a non-payed for item. Essentially letting people physically buy enhancements than earn them within the game. It could also render the whole point of raiding/dungeons kinda pointless if you can just buy a more powerful item with a few real world penny's.
TheCorpulent1
12-27-2008, 11:27 PM
I probably still wouldn't play it, but I can think of nothing better to topple WoW off its throne than a KOTOR-based MMO.
I rather like the new style, myself. It's much more vibrant and colorful than the KOTOR games. Much as I love those games, they could be pretty drab in a lot of areas.
I agree, but it seems like the new style is trying too hard to be Clone Wars. It forces me to ask, is Lucas trying to kidiffy this game as well?
Spidey-Bat
12-28-2008, 12:23 AM
Not interested. I'm sure it'll be great and all, but I want KOTOR 3 and the continuation of Revan's story, not a loosely-connected MMO. I've stayed MMO-free and plan to continue doing so for the rest of my life, if possible.
Second that. KOTOR had the best story in a game I've ever played.
I don't like MMOs either. I want to pay for my games once.
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
12-28-2008, 03:26 AM
I agree, but it seems like the new style is trying too hard to be Clone Wars. It forces me to ask, is Lucas trying to kidiffy this game as well?
Nope.
Longativity.
Rainbow 6 looked amazing at the time, it was very realistic.
http://i42.tinypic.com/264h01f.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/2wcpvv5.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/21bqa90.jpg
Team Fortress 2 doesn't aim for anatomical photorealism.
http://i41.tinypic.com/289itr6.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/huoqw3.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/nebwo8.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/i6zcex.jpg
When the next generation of games trying to ascertain realism come out it will have much less of a detrimental effect on Team Fortress 2 than it will for games like Crysis, Alan Wake, Dead Space and what-not. A heavily stylized game can have more of a life-span visually than a game aiming for realism that looks inept when the next big game aiming for realism come out. People will be playing Knight's Of The Old republic for years as opposed to 8 hours then never pick it up again It's a good "future proof" design decision on Bioware's part imo. I don't think it automatically equates to kiddy fodder by default.
I'm not even going to bother reading your post as you keep posting obnoxiously large pictures without the common courteousy to tag them making it impossible to read your post without scrolling over and back, over and back, over and back.
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
12-28-2008, 05:00 AM
I'm not even going to bother
You didn't bother reading the thread either as it was explained one page back.
Dark_Lord
01-30-2009, 07:09 PM
The Making of Tython (http://www.swtor.com/media/vidcasts/devdispatch001)
Dark_Lord
02-13-2009, 03:05 PM
We’re thrilled to announce the next playable planet in Star Wars™: The Old Republic™, the Hutt homeworld known in The Old Republic timeframe as Hutta. Nowhere in Star Wars™ lore has Hutta been so richly realized, and players will be able to explore the first true interactive realization of the “Glorious Jewel”.
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1396/ss200902130011600x900qv3.jpg
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SWTOR.com (http://www.swtor.com/news/article/20090213_001)
Dark_Lord
02-27-2009, 07:43 AM
The first issue of the web comic "Threat of Peace" is available at the official site (http://www.swtor.com/media/webcomic/), for anyone interested.
Some info about the comic:
Star Wars™: The Old Republic™, Threat of Peace is being developed as a joint venture between BioWare, LucasArts, and Dark Horse comics. Written in conjunction with the BioWare writing team working on Star Wars™: The Old Republic™ and produced by the comic experts at Dark Horse, the comic will offer readers a dramatic introduction to the Old Republic time period and many of the characters who appear in the game. Stay tuned and follow the storyline to its dramatic conclusion setting the stage for the players’ entrance into the game. Issues of the comic will be released twice a month.
The Squirrel
02-27-2009, 11:06 AM
When is this game coming out?
Philly Phanboy
02-28-2009, 10:49 AM
Still no timetable for a release date. It still hasn't gone through beta testing yet either.
dusk20
03-02-2009, 03:57 AM
I would love to be able to see the character creation and being able to play around with that feature before the games release.
TheCorpulent1
03-02-2009, 08:09 AM
The first issue of the web comic "Threat of Peace" is available at the official site (http://www.swtor.com/media/webcomic/), for anyone interested.
Some info about the comic:
Hahahahahahaha, they got Alex Sanchez to draw that s***? Oh man, those of you who are actually interested enough in this game to read the comic have my eternal pity.
Humphrey Bogart
03-04-2009, 12:49 PM
Even with the amazing games we have under the title, I have yet to play a Star Wars game that did justice to lightsaber duels. There was an old arcade game (first-person I believe) that was really good, but nothing I've played on console has had that "duel" feel to it. I loved the Jed Knight series, but I always felt like it never quite got it. Hopefully this one breaks form.
Spidey-Bat
03-04-2009, 12:53 PM
Has there been any information about whether or not you will need to own a subscription like WoW?
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
03-04-2009, 12:57 PM
Even with the amazing games we have under the title, I have yet to play a Star Wars game that did justice to lightsaber duels..
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Humphrey Bogart
03-04-2009, 01:00 PM
^^
Can't see it. What game?
TheCorpulent1
03-04-2009, 01:23 PM
Jedi Knight 2. While it was great for its time, it was still sort of cumbersome and awkward. I think they could do much better now.
Spidey-Bat
03-04-2009, 01:44 PM
I've always hated how in games when you hit someone with a lightsaber, their limbs wouldn't fall off. I know they don't do that since the game wouldn't be very challenging but I still don't like it.
Humphrey Bogart
03-04-2009, 01:48 PM
I don't see why it would be a problem. Part of the grandeur of wielding a lightsaber lies in the skill. It be can't too difficult to develop a gaming engine around this. Or maybe it is since it hasn't been done...
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
03-04-2009, 01:49 PM
Jedi Knight 2. While it was great for its time, it was still sort of cumbersome and awkward. I think they could do much better now.
Yea. Or they could go backwards.
http://www.8bitreview.com/images/StarWarsForceUnleashed.jpg
TheCorpulent1
03-04-2009, 01:50 PM
Still haven't played that.
I've always hated how in games when you hit someone with a lightsaber, their limbs wouldn't fall off. I know they don't do that since the game wouldn't be very challenging but I still don't like it.
I just fanwank the explanation that my character is so skilled with a lightsaber that even though it looks like I'm savagely tearing through their whole body when I swing it, I'm actually just executing elegant little nicks and pokes to wear them down. Granted, that leaves me wondering why my character is so stupid that he doesn't just drop everyone in one hit by actually tearing through their whole body with the lightsaber, but that's the trade-off I have to deal with. :csad:
Humphrey Bogart
03-04-2009, 01:56 PM
Yea. Or they could go backwards.
http://www.8bitreview.com/images/StarWarsForceUnleashed.jpg
Really fun game, the closest to what I had in mind, but still felt arcadish overall.
Soapy
03-04-2009, 02:13 PM
I don't see why it would be a problem. Part of the grandeur of wielding a lightsaber lies in the skill. It be can't too difficult to develop a gaming engine around this. Or maybe it is since it hasn't been done...
What's the matter? Never played Masters of Teräs Käsi? :o:woot:
Dark_Lord
03-04-2009, 02:37 PM
Yea. Or they could go backwards.
http://www.8bitreview.com/images/StarWarsForceUnleashed.jpg
IMO, way better at lightsaber combat than the JK games. Sure, the JK games were better in some aspects, but I liked TFU a lot more. Especially the lightsaber combat. In the JK games you would just swing the lightsaber around, hoping you'd hit someone. It felt very...clumsy and random, imo. TFU made me actually feel like I Jedi. But maybe that's just me.
ProjectPat2280
03-04-2009, 03:06 PM
IMO, way better at lightsaber combat than the JK games. Sure, the JK games were better in some aspects, but I liked TFU a lot more. Especially the lightsaber combat. In the JK games you would just swing the lightsaber around, hoping you'd hit someone. It felt very...clumsy and random, imo. TFU made me actually feel like I Jedi. But maybe that's just me.
Yea i agree with you. The lightsaber combat in the Jedi Knight series was horrid. I mean those games are my favorite Star Wars games but the overall feel of wielding a lightsaber was terrible, altho i do love how you could turn ur saber on and off at will. Saber vs saber battles looked ugly and like you said were just really clumsy. I did enjoy the combat for TFU, but i did miss the saber acting like lightsaber.
Humphrey Bogart
03-04-2009, 03:15 PM
What's the matter? Never played Masters of Teräs Käsi? :o:woot:
Lol...
Knights of the Old Republic is on the right track, with 'choreographed' attacks and blocks, so that failed lightsaber attacks are blocked instead of striking the person and mysteriously not killing/maiming them instantly...
From what I've seen thought its very rough, and generally uninspired. It has a lot of potential to be limiting if everything is 1:1.
Dark_Lord
03-14-2009, 04:11 AM
Video Documentary 2 (http://www.swtor.com/media/trailers/video-documentary-2)
The second issue of the "Threat of Peace" (http://www.swtor.com/media/webcomic/) webcomic has been released.
Dark_Lord
03-20-2009, 12:45 PM
Bounty Hunter Class Revealed (http://www.swtor.com/info/classes/bounty-hunter)
Dark_Lord
04-10-2009, 02:48 PM
Ord Mantell (http://www.swtor.com/news/article/20090410_001)
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TheCorpulent1
04-10-2009, 03:21 PM
I may try this out if there's a trial after all. My friends got me into Guild Wars, which is actually pretty fun because it's not constant grinding, so it makes me think there may be hope for MMOs after all. Since BioWare claim the focus of The Old Republic will be story-based, I could see it being pretty fun. It's still no KotOR 3, but it could be good as its own thing.
Dark_Lord
05-08-2009, 11:02 AM
Developer Dispatch: Diverse Worlds (http://www.swtor.com/media/vidcasts/devdispatch002)
Trooper Class Revealed (http://www.swtor.com/info/classes/trooper)
Trooper Class Q&A (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/starwarstheoldrepublic/news.html?sid=6209373&tag=topslot;img;2)
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DeGenerate10
05-08-2009, 11:14 AM
God that's amazing. I may buy a 360 just for that
TheCorpulent1
05-08-2009, 11:26 AM
It's nice that they're throwing fans of the Clonetroopers/Stormtroopers a bone, but did they have to make them look so similar to those other versions? What, is there some kind of genetic memory in the Star Wars universe where everyone automatically thinks "white armor with an obvious breathing apparatus and painted-on colors for rank insignia" when they want soldiers?
Upset Spideyfan
05-09-2009, 10:59 PM
Yeah something I loved about the first KoTOR was that the Republic and Sith troopers were obvious ancestors but they still looked different enough to fit in that period.
These guys look like something out of the Clone Wars.
Great1
05-09-2009, 11:37 PM
In the new Trooper interview they mentioned that there will be a demo at E3.
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
05-10-2009, 12:12 AM
Be interesting to see the UI.
Soapy
05-10-2009, 12:18 AM
Be interesting to see the UI.
Indeed. Although I bet it won't be as crazy as most MMOs. I'm pretty sure they're going to want to port this to consoles if it does well enough.
Spider-Vader
05-10-2009, 12:29 AM
What systems will this be on besides PC? I thought it was a PC exclusive, but I guess not.
Soapy
05-10-2009, 12:32 AM
It is for now. Just a prediction on my part.
Spider-Vader
05-10-2009, 01:55 AM
Hmmm... Okay. I hope it's for other consoles.
Dark_Lord
05-29-2009, 01:19 PM
Developer Dispatch: The Republic Trooper (http://www.swtor.com/media/vidcasts/devdispatch003)
Tron Bonne
05-29-2009, 01:39 PM
What systems will this be on besides PC? I thought it was a PC exclusive, but I guess not.
No, it is a PC exclusive. I believe Bioware has also stated that there was no plans for console versions of this game if I'm not mistaken
Dark_Lord
06-01-2009, 05:28 PM
Jedi VS Sith Trailer (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-star-wars/49936)
ProjectPat2280
06-01-2009, 05:30 PM
God this game needs to be on the PS3/360.
The Squirrel
06-01-2009, 05:34 PM
God this game needs to be on the PS3/360.
Not really.
Hurrah for PC Gaming!
FCEEVIPER
06-01-2009, 05:41 PM
Jedi VS Sith Trailer (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-star-wars/49936)
:wow::wow::wow:
Upset Spideyfan
06-01-2009, 05:42 PM
The trailer was VERY good. For a moment I thought Revan was with them until I realized that they are all wearing that armor. I have to remind myself that this really isn't going to be a story driven rpg. :(
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
06-01-2009, 05:44 PM
I have to remind myself that this really isn't going to be a story driven rpg. :(
It will have story.
Bioware have specifically said that in nearly every preview and interview.
Every character will have voice acting.
Upset Spideyfan
06-01-2009, 05:46 PM
I'm skeptical as to how in-depth that's going to be.
If Bioware proves me wrong I'll gladly admit it, but I just don't see how they can create a story as rich as the first KoTOR and still have it be a mmo.
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
06-01-2009, 05:47 PM
I'm skeptical as to how in-depth that's going to be.
If Bioware proves me wrong I'll gladly admit it, but I just don't see how they can create a story as rich as the first KoTOR and still have it be a mmo.
Have you ever played Guild Wars?
Rubbish story telling compared to Bioware but it shows story can be done in an MMO.
Upset Spideyfan
06-01-2009, 05:52 PM
No I haven't so I'll have to take your word for it.
I guess my deal is how are they going to be able to create a larger cohesive story while working within the constraints of the mmo genre?
Will the villain EVER be toppled? Some kind of event? Won't some people invariably miss out on it?
How can we affect the fate of worlds if other people are doing so?
I've no problem with a Bioware doing a mmo but I was hoping to finish what I started with The Sith Lords and I feel like I've been handed something else and I've left that "story" incomplete.
Again, I'm more than ready for Bioware to prove me wrong somehow but I don't see how it can be done.
Capt Throbberson
06-01-2009, 06:55 PM
Has there been any information about whether or not you will need to own a subscription like WoW?
It's an MMO, so there's a 99% chance that's the case
TheCorpulent1
06-02-2009, 08:32 AM
No I haven't so I'll have to take your word for it.
I guess my deal is how are they going to be able to create a larger cohesive story while working within the constraints of the mmo genre?
Will the villain EVER be toppled? Some kind of event? Won't some people invariably miss out on it?
How can we affect the fate of worlds if other people are doing so?
I've no problem with a Bioware doing a mmo but I was hoping to finish what I started with The Sith Lords and I feel like I've been handed something else and I've left that "story" incomplete.
Again, I'm more than ready for Bioware to prove me wrong somehow but I don't see how it can be done.
The way Guild Wars gets around that problem is by generating separate versions of the same missions for each party. So you and your party could be playing the same mission as another party, but your games won't overlap, allowing each party to complete the story at its own pace. Basically, the only time Guild Wars is truly a massively multiplayer game is in the towns, where everyone can meet and form their parties.
Philly Phanboy
06-02-2009, 10:11 AM
Jedi VS Sith Trailer (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-star-wars/49936)
Great trailer. :wow:
Oh and George Lucas should have let the guys at Bioware write the Star Wars prequel episodes for him. :oldrazz:
Upset Spideyfan
06-02-2009, 10:16 AM
The way Guild Wars gets around that problem is by generating separate versions of the same missions for each party. So you and your party could be playing the same mission as another party, but your games won't overlap, allowing each party to complete the story at its own pace. Basically, the only time Guild Wars is truly a massively multiplayer game is in the towns, where everyone can meet and form their parties.
I see, well that's pretty sensible but I'd be surprised if they go that route with Old Republic.
TheCorpulent1
06-02-2009, 10:19 AM
I bet BioWare will come up with another method of progressing the story, too. Maybe they'll just have the boss fights load as separate things, so you can do the rest of the mission with as many people as you want.
I see, well that's pretty sensible but I'd be surprised if they go that route with Old Republic.
But... what other way can they go with it? Either they're lying, or they've figured something out to make the story take center stage.
dark_knight08
06-02-2009, 02:00 PM
Jedi VS Sith Trailer (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-star-wars/49936)
Awesome Jedi vs Sith cinematic for Star Wars: The Old Republic.
Upset Spideyfan
06-02-2009, 02:10 PM
But... what other way can they go with it?
I dunno. :huh:
Ask me after its out.
Crook
06-02-2009, 02:57 PM
That trailer was one of the best cinematics I've seen in a very long time. Everything from the art direction, to the rendering quality, to the directing....all perfect. Makes me yearn for SW to come back to film, without Lucas' interference.
Only bad thing, is since the game's an MMO, it will be nothing like that trailer. But it is Bioware, so maybe they'll manage to inject a bit more adrenaline in this genre. I can't help but feel jipped they're working on ME2 instead of a proper KOTOR sequel, though.
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
06-03-2009, 07:34 PM
Kotaku played the unfinished version.
http://kotaku.com/5277689/star-wars-the-old-republic-preview-bam-here-it-is
DeGenerate10
06-03-2009, 07:38 PM
Will this game be on the 360? Or is it just for PC? I've heard rumors it'll just be PC.
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
06-03-2009, 08:48 PM
http://kotaku.com/5278008/the-old-republic-wordier-than-entire-run-of-the-sopranos
Still-in-development massively multiplayer online title Star Wars The Old Republic (http://kotaku.com/tag/star-wars-the-old-republic/) comes packed with voice acting, lots of voice acting.
Just how much? Not even the BioWare team are sure.
Every scene, every dialog tree, every branch of conversation is voice acted, and that's a mammoth amount of work. Principal lead writer Daniel Erickson said that meant the team had to do a massive casting call to fill all of the roles of the game. They also tried to make sure not to land any big names for the main roles, because those people will likely be around, providing voice work for the game for quite awhile.
The cast will include a few voices familiar to fans of science fiction. Some of the actors from Battlestar Galactica, for instance, did work for the game.
When I asked Erickson how many hours of audio they had already recorded he said he didn't know. But, he added, when the audio team was about a third of the way through the voice work they told him that they had just passed all of the audio found in the full six seasons, 86 episodes of The Sorpranos.
ProjectPat2280
06-03-2009, 09:01 PM
Will this game be on the 360? Or is it just for PC? I've heard rumors it'll just be PC.
No its PC only. No console versions are planned at this stage.
ProjectPat2280
06-03-2009, 09:06 PM
That trailer was one of the best cinematics I've seen in a very long time. Everything from the art direction, to the rendering quality, to the directing....all perfect. Makes me yearn for SW to come back to film, without Lucas' interference.
Only bad thing, is since the game's an MMO, it will be nothing like that trailer. But it is Bioware, so maybe they'll manage to inject a bit more adrenaline in this genre. I can't help but feel jipped they're working on ME2 instead of a proper KOTOR sequel, though.
Yea, there is no way the game will be as cool as that trailer. That trailer was sick. Like you that really makes me want some more Star Wars films and other media , altho i dont mind if Lucas, the man who created the very thing we are talking about, "interferes".
DeGenerate10
06-03-2009, 09:14 PM
No its PC only. No console versions are planned at this stage.
That sucks I would've bought a 360 for this game
ProjectPat2280
06-03-2009, 09:16 PM
That sucks I would've bought a 360 for this game
Yea, it does suck. The Knights of the Old Republic games were made popular on the Xbox system, its odd to see them not going that route again. Altho, maybe that means we will get a true sequel to Knights of the Old Republic 1 and 2, at some point?
Soapy
06-03-2009, 09:23 PM
Hopefully. Who would you guys like to see handle such a game? Obsidian is busy with Alpha Protocol, that Aliens RPG, and Fallout: New Vegas. Bioware is busy with Dragon Age, Mass Effect 2 and 3, and The Old Republic. The only other prominent western RPG developer I can think of is Bethesda, but their style isn't really suitable for a KOTOR sequel. Of course, some people said (and continue to say) the same about Fallout.
Upset Spideyfan
06-03-2009, 09:24 PM
Yea, there is no way the game will be as cool as that trailer. That trailer was sick. Like you that really makes me want some more Star Wars films and other media , altho i dont mind if Lucas, the man who created the very thing we are talking about, "interferes".
Lucas is long past the point of delivering good cinematic work. The more he interferes the worse it'll be. Let Bioware take the reigns.
GoldGoblin
06-03-2009, 09:25 PM
Y can't Lucas make a movie as awesome as that trailer.
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
06-03-2009, 09:53 PM
That sucks I would've bought a 360 for this game
Well, it's good for me as it's probably not being designed with a control pad in mind.
ProjectPat2280
06-03-2009, 09:59 PM
Lucas is long past the point of delivering good cinematic work. The more he interferes the worse it'll be. Let Bioware take the reigns.
Eh, to each his own but i dont buy that for a second.
PWN3R
06-03-2009, 10:52 PM
That trailer was more exciting and kinetic then all the prequels combined. That's the best interpretation of a Sith/Jedi fight I've ever seen.
So ****ing cool!
ProjectPat2280
06-03-2009, 10:57 PM
Yea i really, really loved that trailer. I was blown away. Just a fantastic cinematic.
Spidey-Bat
06-03-2009, 11:02 PM
When the hell is Battlefront 3 coming out? Online has only gotten better since the 2nd one.
ProjectPat2280
06-03-2009, 11:05 PM
I dont think we'll see Battlefront 3 for awhile. There is a new PSP Battlefront coming out tho
Soapy
06-03-2009, 11:12 PM
Whenever we do get a Battlefront 3 I doubt it will be as awesome as what Free Radical was working on. :(
DeGenerate10
06-03-2009, 11:14 PM
When the hell is Battlefront 3 coming out? Online has only gotten better since the 2nd one.
It'll be a while if it comes out at all. One company was making it then they quit. Some other company picked it up not to long ago. Your guess is as good as mine when it comes out
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
06-04-2009, 10:38 AM
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-star-wars/50795
Etienne
06-05-2009, 03:14 PM
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-star-wars/50795
Completely forgot about this game being developed. Looks great. :up:
Meh i'm trying to get over MMOs especially MMOs with level + class system, but the cinematic just got me hyped gaaaah! :(
TheCorpulent1
06-05-2009, 03:49 PM
I still don't understand the purpose of cutscene trailers. What, I'm supposed to get excited by watching something that I'll be able to watch again somewhere in the game (or maybe not, if it's just a press trailer)? Meh. MEH! Gameplay, damn it! :cmad:
Soapy
06-05-2009, 04:01 PM
I highly doubt Star Wars MMO gameplay would be anywhere near as exciting or sell the game as well as that cinematic does.
TheCorpulent1
06-05-2009, 04:05 PM
Gameplay's pretty much the only thing that sells games for me, but I suppose there are people out there who'll buy something because the devs can pre-render cool-looking stuff...
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
06-05-2009, 04:06 PM
Never heard of a cover system in an MMO.
TheCorpulent1
06-05-2009, 04:12 PM
Nor in an RPG. I guess maybe they're placing more of an emphasis on action in this like they did in Mass Effect?
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
06-05-2009, 04:28 PM
Well, they said something like the bounty hunter was about stealth and surprise.
They also mentioned hot-key's for pulling off moves.
TheCorpulent1
06-05-2009, 04:31 PM
I hope it's not something silly like ducking behind cover increases your defense stat. Generally, the point of cover is to keep from getting hit at all.
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
06-05-2009, 04:44 PM
I prefer dice rolling personally.
It would be nice to see the IU, there was back stage demo's but the actual gameplay footage wasn't seen.
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
06-05-2009, 04:44 PM
D-post.
Dark_Lord
06-07-2009, 02:48 AM
Preview (StarWarsMMO.net) (http://www.starwarsmmo.net/news/star-wars-the-old-republic-e3-demo-preview/)
ProjectPat2280
06-07-2009, 12:42 PM
Any word on the saber combat in this? If its turn based im gonna feel a whole hell of a lot better knowing ill miss out on this. If its real time, im gonna be upset.
Spidey-Bat
06-07-2009, 12:46 PM
Probably turn based like in KOTOR since it's also an RPG.
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
06-07-2009, 01:04 PM
Preview (StarWarsMMO.net) (http://www.starwarsmmo.net/news/star-wars-the-old-republic-e3-demo-preview/)
Interesting.
""SWTOR is the first RPG to allow co-op/multi-player conversations."
Crook
06-07-2009, 01:35 PM
Any word on the saber combat in this? If its turn based im gonna feel a whole hell of a lot better knowing ill miss out on this. If its real time, im gonna be upset.
I'm 90% sure I read a hands-on impression yesterday noting that the combat was indeed real-time, similar to Mass Effect.
ProjectPat2280
06-07-2009, 03:05 PM
I'm 90% sure I read a hands-on impression yesterday noting that the combat was indeed real-time, similar to Mass Effect.
Damn. If thats true, then im really, really gonna want this game.
The Squirrel
06-07-2009, 04:52 PM
This is gonna be the first MMO that I will be willing to pay monthly for.
Real time, but choreographed. That means that while it will be realtime, ala mass effect, there will be a limit to how fast you can execute moves, since your first animation has to complete before your second move starts. This is true of all games, action or rpg, however, from what I've seen in comparison with KoToRs of the past, the animation is going to be a couple seconds.
""SWTOR is the first RPG to allow co-op/multi-player conversations."
Worth the price of admission, if you ask me.
Whats that co-op/multi-player conversations suppose to mean? That it has a ingame ventrilo/teamspeak or what? Or like a RPG conversation? :O
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
06-08-2009, 07:46 AM
RPG conversation with NPC's.
Whats that co-op/multi-player conversations suppose to mean? That it has a ingame ventrilo/teamspeak or what? Or like a RPG conversation? :O
Just like conversations in other Bioware RPGs (KoToR, Mass Effect) except now multiple people can chime in.
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