Chapter 8: "Four Months Ago" Discussion 11/12/07

[LeChuck]

Alright, I'm done. But only cause Spoons and Chuck asked. Good night.
Awesome, I feel special now. :o :woot:

[Matt]

So just because I'm a landscaper, my opinion is not valid? And I thought you didn't insult people for what they are? Hmm. What a surprise. :whatever:


When did I say your job was something to be ashamed of? You are saying my opinion is not valid because I am not a writer. I was simply responding neither of you.

But seriously, done now...for you Spoons and Chuck :woot:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Awesome, I feel special now. :o :woot:

He'll be back

[Colossal Spoons]

Alright, I'm done. But only cause Spoons and Chuck asked. Good night.

Heh, I've agreed w/ you the past couple of weeks but it's at the point where nothing's getting accomplished. Here's hoping that EVERYBODY is happy with the next 3 episodes :up:

[JustABill]

Yeah. You italicized and in a smart ass way you said ''Says the landscaper." If that doesn't read insult I don't know what does. But whatever I'm 22. I'm not ****ing fighting over a god damn TV show on the gd internet.

[Colossal Spoons]

You guys just get caught up in the main story and that's all you want to see.


Don't you tell me what I get caught up in!

[zhulok]

Unfortanately its alot of people fault tonight not just Matt's but who blames you guys it wasnt one of the greatest episodes and its made all you guys grouchy.:csad: I think you guys all should go to bed so you guys can calm down.

[Matt]

Heh, I've agreed w/ you the past couple of weeks but it's at the point where nothing's getting accomplished. Here's hoping that EVERYBODY is happy with the next 3 episodes :up:

The thing is, certain members seem to be against stating an opinion that is negative of the show, and frankly I can't understand why. You'd think they are Tim Kring in disguise or something.

(not arguing with anyone, simply continuing my discussion with Spoons, I have walked away from the argument)

[JustABill]

Don't you tell me what I get caught up in!
You got caught up in Milo's hot sweaty chest. You big gay bo.

Oh wait...<_< wrong poster.

[LeChuck]

Yeah. You italicized and in a smart ass way you said ''Says the landscaper." If that doesn't read insult I don't know what does. But whatever I'm 22. I'm not ****ing fighting over a god damn TV show on the gd internet.
Ok now calm down...and put the pliers down people. :cmad: :trans: Look what Nicky has done to us...*tear*

[Specter313]

When did I say your job was something to be ashamed of? You are saying my opinion is not valid because I am not a writer. I was simply responding neither of you.

But seriously, done now...for you Spoons and Chuck :woot:

By bringing my job up in a negative manner, yes you did. I never said your opinion is not valid, I said you do not have a right to say that what you interpret from a show is fact, like you tried to say that it was a fact Matt was the father when it was only your belief that he was the father. Get it right or don't say it at all. I've said it numerous times that you can state your opinion, but to do it so it doesn't sound like it is something that everyone should abide by. And if you truly are done, then don't start the same stuff next week.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

You know when Heroes end people will miss these arguments because there will be nothing to argue about :csad:

[Abaddon]

Don't you tell me what I get caught up in!

You wanna go?!:cmad:

[Colossal Spoons]

The thing is, certain members seem to be against stating an opinion that is negative of the show, and frankly I can't understand why. You'd think they are Tim Kring in disguise or something.

(not arguing with anyone, simply continuing my discussion with Spoons, I have walked away from the argument)

I agree, this show does have a mob following. Like Trekkies, but more willing to verbally abuse any dissenters.

[JustABill]

You know when Heroes end people will miss these arguments because there will be nothing to argue about :csad:
There's always something to ***** about.

[LeChuck]

You know when Heroes end people will miss these arguments because there will be nothing to argue about :csad:Then i can look forward to going to the lost thread where people will ***** constantly about there only being 8 episodes. :o

[Colossal Spoons]

You got caught up in Milo's hot sweaty chest. You big gay bo.

Oh wait...<_< wrong poster.

My sister swoons so damn hard when he's on the screen. Sickening.

[Colossal Spoons]

You know when Heroes end people will miss these arguments because there will be nothing to argue about :csad:

We'll continue this when Lost comes on. Be there or be square, turkey!

You wanna go?!:cmad:

Where you takin me!? :cmad:

[JustABill]

My sister swoons so damn hard when he's on the screen. Sickening.
As do I and my closet heterosexual tendencies exploded a little tonight with all the hot flirting between him and Kristen.

Dayummmmn. :D

[JustABill]

We'll continue this when Lost comes on. Be there or be square, turkey!
Or he'll bust your cheeks. :cmad:

[Specter313]

You wanna go?!:cmad:

10 bucks on Spoony. :o

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I agree, this show does have a mob following. Like Trekkies, but more willing to verbally abuse any dissenters.

If that was the case then people here would be arguing with everyone with a negative opinion. But I guess you have not noticed that people are only arguing against some who thinks they are all high & mighty & that everyone must agree with their opinion & that their opinion is fact. Thats the difference here otherwise like I said everyone saying something negative would get *****ed at & here that is not the case. But hey you be happy with what you think.

[Matt]

I agree, this show does have a mob following. Like Trekkies, but more willing to verbally abuse any dissenters.

I dunno..Trekkies can be pretty hardcore.

Wait...since Sylar is playing Spock, will some fans breed and create the ultimate rabid fanboy!?!

I THINK I FIGURED OUT THE 01-18-08 MONSTER! :wow:

[Colossal Spoons]

Or he'll bust your cheeks. :cmad:

All day

[zhulok]

I dunno..Trekkies can be pretty hardcore.

Wait...since Sylar is playing Spock, will some fans breed and create the ultimate rabid fanboy!?!

I THINK I FIGURED OUT THE 01-18-08 MONSTER! :wow:

LOL nice.:word:

[JustABill]

All day
Wow. But what bout Pickles cheeks? :(

[LeChuck]

I dunno..Trekkies can be pretty hardcore.

Wait...since Sylar is playing Spock, will some fans breed and create the ultimate rabid fanboy!?!

I THINK I FIGURED OUT THE 01-18-08 MONSTER! :wow:Actually...imagine it...trekkies...lost fanboys(JJ Abrams and the lost people behind the camera)...and heroes fanboys all together. Yeah, that's gonna be kind of ridiculous. :o

[Colossal Spoons]

I dunno..Trekkies can be pretty hardcore.

Wait...since Sylar is playing Spock, will some fans breed and create the ultimate rabid fanboy!?!

I THINK I FIGURED OUT THE 01-18-08 MONSTER! :wow:

J.J will have you taken away in the middle of the night for ruining his plot :(

[Colossal Spoons]

Wow. But what bout Pickles cheeks? :(

In the evenings? :o

[JustABill]

J.J will have you taken away in the middle of the night for ruining his plot :(
Like in V for Vendetta? Scary. :eek:

[Specter313]

We'll continue this when Lost comes on. Be there or be square, turkey!


Oh, you're waitin til Feb. '09? :o

[JustABill]

In the evenings? :o
I predict you'll be very sore from all this cheek busting. :(

[Matt]

J.J will have you taken away in the middle of the night for ruining his plot :(

Will I atleast be taken to a prison where Kristen Bell pleasures me with electricity? :csad:

[Colossal Spoons]

If that was the case then people here would be arguing with everyone with a negative opinion. But I guess you have not noticed that people are only arguing against some who thinks they are all high & mighty & that everyone must agree with their opinion & that their opinion is fact. Thats the difference here otherwise like I said everyone saying something negative would get *****ed at & here that is not the case. But hey you be happy with what you think.

I said I didn't like Claire a few episodes ago and I never thought I'd make it out of the thread alive.

[Xeno Ghost]

Nedm

[Matt]

Actually...imagine it...trekkies...lost fanboys(JJ Abrams and the lost people behind the camera)...and heroes fanboys all together. Yeah, that's gonna be kind of ridiculous. :o

:ninja: I'm skird

[Abaddon]

Where you takin me!? :cmad:

I'm takin you down!! :cmad:

[Colossal Spoons]

Oh, you're waitin til Feb. '09? :o

Don't remind me. I'm gonna drink a ton of Nyquil and hope I wake up in time for it :(

I predict you'll be very sore from all this cheek busting. :(

I'll rest on Sundays

Will I atleast be taken to a prison where Kristen Bell pleasures me with electricity? :csad:

Send pictures :ninja:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I said I didn't like Claire a few episodes ago and I never thought I'd make it out of the thread alive.

Thats a little much dont you think. Its one thing to state your opinion but when you act like your all high & mighty & that your opinion = all like some do that is the big problem

[LeChuck]

I said I didn't like Claire a few episodes ago and I never thought I'd make it out of the thread alive.Ha ha, you make it sound like the army of the dead or something. I think we figured out the plot of Romero's new movie, too. :dry: No more room in hell for those heroes fans. :o

[Specter313]

I'm takin you down!! :cmad:

Make that 20 bucks on Spoony. :o

[JustABill]

I'm takin you down!! :cmad:
Downnnntownnn, things will be great when your downtoownnnnnn.

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm takin you down!! :cmad:

I don't wanna go there! Let's go somewhere else. I know this great Italian place.

[Darkdd]

You all do realize that bickering is pointless, right? At the end of the day, everyone is still going to have their opinions. All everyone is doing is making themselves flustered for absolutely no reason. Look at what the discussion has devolved into. We might be strong in our convictions, but, we have to remember that it's just a small discussion about a tv show.

[Abaddon]

who was that again, Blondie?

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Ha ha, you make it sound like the army of the dead or something. I think we figured out the plot of Romero's new movie, too. :dry: No more room in hell for those heroes fans. :o

The Freddy theme turned into the Heroes theme

1, 2 The Fan Boys are coming for you

3, 4 Heroes is awesome

5, 6 You shouldnt be watching

7, 8 If you complain

:woot:

[JustABill]

I don't wanna go there! Let's go somewhere else. I know this great Italian place.
Luigi's Meatballs on fifth? Yeah, that place beats Mario's Spaghetti Noodle anytime of the day. :o

[Abaddon]

I don't wanna go there! Let's go somewhere else. I know this great Italian place.

real Italian, or Olive Garden type ****?

[The Caped Knight]

http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/5383/shahelkristenbellself080719380.th.jpg (http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shahelkristenbellself080719380.jpg)
"Too bad, peter...now I have to give all my crazy psycho love to this little puppy..." :woot:

http://forums.superiorpics.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/149279/an//page//vc/1

^^^

The Whole Set. :woot:


:wow:

[Darkdd]

Oh, so now everyone's having fun, :whatever: :D

[LeChuck]

The Freddy theme turned into the Heroes theme

1, 2 The Fan Boys are coming for you

3, 4 Heroes is awesome

5, 6 You shouldnt be watching

7, 8 If you complain

:woot:
:wow: *hides behind blankets*

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Luigi's Meatballs on fifth? Yeah, that place beats Mario's Spaghetti Noodle anytime of the day. :o

Lets go to Super Pizza

The place where all female workers dress up in Supergirl Outfits :woot:

[Colossal Spoons]

Luigi's Meatballs on fifth? Yeah, that place beats Mario's Spaghetti Noodle anytime of the day. :o

Perfect!

real Italian, or Olive Garden type ****?

OG is the most Italian place I've ever been to :(

[Colossal Spoons]

Oh, so now everyone's having fun, :whatever: :D

Your attempt to deescalate this thread was a little late but still appreciated. Maybe next week? :(

[LeChuck]

Lets go to Super Pizza

The place where all female workers dress up in Supergirl Outfits :woot:
I thought that place only existed in my dreams. The ones that give me capes in the morning.:wow:

[Colossal Spoons]

Wait, that's a real place!?

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I thought that place only existed in my dreams. The ones that give me capes in the morning.:wow:

Do you leave the cape on a fence & just walk away from it :woot:

[LeChuck]

Wait, that's a real place!?
It's real in imigination land.
http://z.about.com/d/animatedtv/1/7/9/T/sp814_Woodland_Critter_Christmas_1.jpg

[Abaddon]

Perfect!



OG is the most Italian place I've ever been to :(

I wanna go to the restaurant run by the cooking lady with the unibrow on PBS.:yay:

Lets go to Super Pizza

The place where all female workers dress up in Supergirl Outfits :woot:
never heard of such a place:ninja:

[Colossal Spoons]

Hahahaha :up:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

It's real in imigination land

I cant wait to buy the Imagination Land DVD :woot:

[Specter313]

I wanna go to the restaurant run by the cooking lady with the unibrow on PBS.:yay:


So you like 'em hairy? This.... isn't much of a surprise. :o

[OobeDoobBenubi]

never heard of such a place:ninja:

You get there through the Imagination Door Way :cwink:

[Darkdd]

Your attempt to deescalate this thread was a little late but still appreciated. Maybe next week? :(

Yeah i'll be here. The time it took for this thread to turn from warzone to candyland was pretty amazing though:hyper:

[Abaddon]

So you like 'em hairy? This.... isn't much of a surprise. :o

don't talk about your mother like that.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

The time it took for this thread to turn from warzone to candyland was pretty amazing though:hyper:

It is a new record

[Matt]

Thats it...enough of you Heroes fan boys.

LeChuck...lets roll...

WE'RE GONNA GO AMERICA, ALL OVER THIS THREAD'S ASS!

http://www.brillandericwatchtv.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/charlieday.jpg

bah...like, ten people watch that show so no one will get the reference :csad:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/Team_America-one-sheet_L.jpg

[LeChuck]

Thats it...enough of you Heroes fan boys.

LeChuck...lets roll...

WE'RE GONNA GO AMERICA, ALL OVER THIS THREAD'S ASS!

http://www.brillandericwatchtv.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/charlieday.jpg

bah...like, ten people watch that show so no one will get the reference :csad:
"Let's get out on the streets!"
"Goddamnit, Jack Bauer. You really are the man."
I love my sunny. :heart: :o

[LeChuck]

Do you leave the cape on a fence & just walk away from it :woot:
You allready know, I superman that ho. :supes:

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah i'll be here. The time it took for this thread to turn from warzone to candyland was pretty amazing though:hyper:

Yeah, I'm magic.

[Matt]

"Let's get out on the streets!"
"Goddamnit, Jack Bauer. You really are the man."
I love my sunny. :heart: :o

Haha :up:

[Matt]

http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/Team_America-one-sheet_L.jpg

Hehe not even close to Charlie.

"DON'T TREAD ON ME!"

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Hehe not even close to Charlie.


http://digilander.libero.it/macs_73/Chuck.jpg

[Matt]

http://digilander.libero.it/macs_73/Chuck.jpg

Charlie still wins.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Charlie still wins.

Neva

[DarkSuperman]

Thats it...enough of you Heroes fan boys.

LeChuck...lets roll...

WE'RE GONNA GO AMERICA, ALL OVER THIS THREAD'S ASS!

http://www.brillandericwatchtv.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/charlieday.jpg

bah...like, ten people watch that show so no one will get the reference :csad:

I watch that show every thursday dammit.

Dayman...Aaaaaaahhhhhhh!! Master of Karate...:woot:

I Kid You Not.

[JustABill]

Yeah, I'm magic.
BLACK Magic.

/Racist. :p

[The Caped Knight]

This episode was good (I like that we got the backstory on what happend to Peter & Nathan after the events of "How to Stop a Exploding Man") (Bell was Smoking hot & Sexy as Elle) (The Meeting between Adam & Peter was very well played First he befriends him , helps heal Nathan . )

The only thing that sucked in this episode was DL's lame Death .

[Colossal Spoons]

BLACK Magic.

/Racist. :p

W/e, have you seen Mary Marvel lately? Black magic FTW!

[Krozee]

stupid triple post

[Krozee]

This episode was so unbelievably bad, I think it may have ruined Heroes for me.

- What happened to Sylar??? Remember in preview Tim Kring??? It said where did sylar go??? Well where the **** DID he go?? I suppose he just climbed down that manhole and wound up in the Amazon. :huh:

- Niki is a ****! She gets DL killed ( the most pathetic way to die I've ever seen in TV or movies). Please just kill her!!!

- Why didn't you just make DL die from the bullet wound??? It made more sense then having som greasy douchebag come up and shoot him. And what ultimate sacrefice did DL make??? Huh Tim??

- What happened to Matt and his wife and the baby??

- How did Suresh and HRG start planning to take down the company??? And when did they move to California??

- Phffft...WTF twins.

The only thing is episode cleared up is how Nathan healed from his burns. WOW. I wasted 1 hour of my life to see how Nathan healed. Way 2 Go Tim!!!

This show has gotten so bad I actually hope it gets cancelled due to the writer's strike.



And don't bother replying to my rant unless you agree with me.

[GNR]

It amazes me how stupid DL's death was.

I know alot of people would enjoy the adventures of DL Hawkins saving people and pleasing his son instead of having Hiro be annoying in the past or the twins trying to get to the border for 8 eps.

Way to drop the ball.As much as I love David Anders,truly great addition to this show,I'm not getting my hopes up.Chances of him biting it or written off by season's end are pretty high considering the spoilers.

[Fanticon]

Does anybody else feel like this should have been the 1st episode of the season?

[JustABill]

Does anybody else feel like this should have been the 1st episode of the season?
In a way, yes.

In a way, no.

[Abaddon]

It should've been the 3rd or fourth episode.

[Krozee]

Does anybody else feel like this should have been the 1st episode of the season?

i feel like this episode shouldnt exist.

[LeChuck]

i feel like this episode shouldnt exist.
:up:

[Colossal Spoons]

Does anybody else feel like this should have been the 1st episode of the season?

As everybody points out when I suggest this: "It's bad for ratings to explain everything right away."

[Dodger]

One thing that is great about living on the West Coast is that I miss all pointless fights. :D

But this episode was alright.

-I liked the beginning. The effects of peter and Nathan were well done. Any scenes with brothers are my favorite, they always have been, maybe cause I have a brother.

- Elle was so hot. :heart: I never knew Krsten had such a great body. :up:

-More twins? God. there story better go somewhere or sylar better kill them off.

- Back to nikki/jessica? My least favorite part of the show! and to top it off they killed off DL! What the hell! They bring him back, build an episode around him and then kil him just so nikki can feel guilty? :cmad:

But next week looks great :up: Ando and Hiro look like there teaming up again! YES! :D

[Abaddon]

the episode took place 4 months ago, and we already knew he was dead.:huh:

[Colossal Spoons]

Never thought Hiro would attempt to go back in time and save his dad. He's gonna **** something up, watch.

[Abaddon]

Where's the preview?

[Dr. Manhatten]

I really liked the episode and was fine with how DL went. We already knew he was dead and liked that it wasn't from Sylar or some big comic book fight, just pissed off the wrong guy and got shot. It happens

[Colossal Spoons]

It shouldn't "just happen" when your power is to phase though.

[SuperDaniel]

^ But he wasnt expecting it. Thats the irony.

I loved this episode and thought it was the best of the season...

[Katsuro]

This episode was so unbelievably bad, I think it may have ruined Heroes for me.

- What happened to Sylar??? Remember in preview Tim Kring??? It said where did sylar go??? Well where the **** DID he go?? I suppose he just climbed down that manhole and wound up in the Amazon. :huh:

- Niki is a ****! She gets DL killed ( the most pathetic way to die I've ever seen in TV or movies). Please just kill her!!!

- Why didn't you just make DL die from the bullet wound??? It made more sense then having som greasy douchebag come up and shoot him. And what ultimate sacrefice did DL make??? Huh Tim??

- What happened to Matt and his wife and the baby??

- How did Suresh and HRG start planning to take down the company??? And when did they move to California??

- Phffft...WTF twins.

The only thing is episode cleared up is how Nathan healed from his burns. WOW. I wasted 1 hour of my life to see how Nathan healed. Way 2 Go Tim!!!

This show has gotten so bad I actually hope it gets cancelled due to the writer's strike.



And don't bother replying to my rant unless you agree with me.

You're dumb. And dont bother replying to this unless you agree with me.

As for the episode, it wasn't particularly great, but it answered a lot of questions. Could've done without Maya and Alejandro's story, as it was completely pointless, and DL's death sucked, but it was nice finding out what happened to Nathan and Peter. Elle was also really damn hot.

Also, i'm so unbelievably happy they had Peter say that line about not being able to fly because he was trying to control his exploding. I was so sick of people asking why Peter didn't fly himself out of there when the answer was so obvious, now i'm just glad they spelled it out plainly.

[hlbimage]

Here's the commercial for episode 209-"Cautionary Tales" here (http://heroescommercialfreecommercials.blogspot.com)

[chamber-music]

Alejandro and Mya- Well we now know the Wonders twins background and guess what? They are still boring! sooner Sylar hits them in the head with a blunt object the better.

Nathan- He was healed by Adams blood, how anticlimatic. Also where the hell was Matts back story.

Nikki And DL- DL died very lame. Nikki suddently went crazy again. They should of just left it as her being cured from last season. They are dragging this split personality thing out and its been done to death already. If they can't think of anything intresting to do with the character let her leave the show.

Haitian- I thought he went rogue last season. Suddenly he turns up at the company and everyones fine. Did Thompson get killed before he reported it.

Overall weakest episode of the season.

[Mysterio]

This episode was so unbelievably bad, I think it may have ruined Heroes for me.

- What happened to Sylar??? Remember in preview Tim Kring??? It said where did sylar go??? Well where the **** DID he go?? I suppose he just climbed down that manhole and wound up in the Amazon. :huh:

- Niki is a ****! She gets DL killed ( the most pathetic way to die I've ever seen in TV or movies). Please just kill her!!!

- Why didn't you just make DL die from the bullet wound??? It made more sense then having som greasy douchebag come up and shoot him. And what ultimate sacrefice did DL make??? Huh Tim??

- What happened to Matt and his wife and the baby??

- How did Suresh and HRG start planning to take down the company??? And when did they move to California??

- Phffft...WTF twins.

The only thing is episode cleared up is how Nathan healed from his burns. WOW. I wasted 1 hour of my life to see how Nathan healed. Way 2 Go Tim!!!

This show has gotten so bad I actually hope it gets cancelled due to the writer's strike. yep. i agree.

[boydston_14]

Thats it...enough of you Heroes fan boys.

LeChuck...lets roll...

WE'RE GONNA GO AMERICA, ALL OVER THIS THREAD'S ASS!

http://www.brillandericwatchtv.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/charlieday.jpg

bah...like, ten people watch that show so no one will get the reference :csad:

One of my fav shows on TV. :woot:

[RockSP]

Peter's greatest power is the ability to blow up and his clothes just get a little scorched.

lol at everybody dissing DL's "fat" cousin.

[SuBe]

Yes, we know that. I don't know what SupermanBeyond was talking about.
All I meant is that he can be killed. Somehow, I'm sure the show will show that eventually.

[Matt]

As everybody points out when I suggest this: "It's bad for ratings to explain everything right away."

One could argue it is worse for ratings to break up the first bit of momentum you build all season with a useless filler episode.

[kane9321]

nikki..picked the wrong time not to "hulk out"

[Matt]

I asked this in the DL thread:

Why would someone commit murder in public, infront of about 20 witnesses, simply over a girl he was dancing with?

[Archangel]

Maybe he was a racist? (Obviously not the reason, but hey.)

[Golgo-13]

I asked this in the DL thread:

Why would someone commit murder in public, infront of about 20 witnesses, simply over a girl he was dancing with?

Are you living under a rock? Look at the news. In Washington DC, near where i live, ppl are shot all the time right inside of nightclubs with Hundreds of ppl watching.

The guy's Pride and ego made him do what he did. It happens in my area at least twice a month.......

[Spidey Rules 2]

I liked the episode (minus a few flaws), but my biggest question is where did Peter get the "Phasing" power from. I figured he got it from DL, but I don't remember them being on screen together. Can anyone help me out?
:huh:

[kane9321]

I love Elle

[Sawyer]

Thats it...enough of you Heroes fan boys.

LeChuck...lets roll...

WE'RE GONNA GO AMERICA, ALL OVER THIS THREAD'S ASS!

http://www.brillandericwatchtv.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/charlieday.jpg

bah...like, ten people watch that show so no one will get the reference :csad:

Love that f***ing show.
Last night was great. Good to know what happened in the last four months. However, no Sylar?! Lame.

[Golgo-13]

I liked the episode (minus a few flaws), but my biggest question is where did Peter get the "Phasing" power from. I figured he got it from DL, but I don't remember them being on screen together. Can anyone help me out?
:huh:

Weren't they in the final ep of last season together, in NY...?

[SuBe]

I liked the episode (minus a few flaws), but my biggest question is where did Peter get the "Phasing" power from. I figured he got it from DL, but I don't remember them being on screen together. Can anyone help me out?

Season Finally First Season, they were not Arm in Arm but they were pretty close, and we don't know how close you have to be for Peter to gain your ability.

[Golgo-13]

So i take it the Haitan got the virus after he sent Peter away? How did he end up in Africa, or where ever it was Mohinder found him...?

[Mysterio]

How did he end up in Africa, or where ever it was Mohinder found him...?

He's Haitian. hint hint.

[RockSP]

He's Haitian. hint hint.

heh.

It's about time for a name, too.

[Spider-Fan83]

I liked the episode (minus a few flaws), but my biggest question is where did Peter get the "Phasing" power from. I figured he got it from DL, but I don't remember them being on screen together. Can anyone help me out?
:huh:

didn't any one else notice him using that power to get out of the handcuffs in "Four Months Later... " i just assumed that he got close enough at the fight in NY in the season final, which also means he probably has, Micah's, and Molly's power too

[Golgo-13]

heh.

It's about time for a name, too.

'The Haitan' sounds badass.

[DarkSuperman]

I asked this in the DL thread:

Why would someone commit murder in public, infront of about 20 witnesses, simply over a girl he was dancing with?

You know what sucks about DL's death? I just watched the episode again online and I see now that he wasn't shot in the back like I thought, the dude walked right up to him! He saw the dude coming! I mean, how long does it take to go all casper anyway? :cmad:

Plus, like someone else said...no Sylar. I'm so mad I feel like flicking peanuts at somebody with super speed.

[Colossal Spoons]

One could argue it is worse for ratings to break up the first bit of momentum you build all season with a useless filler episode.

I agree; but apparently that excited some people and makes them hungrier for the next episode. :huh:

[squeekness]

I didn't think this ep was all that bad. It explained why Nathan keeps seeing the burned guy, why DL died, how Adam escaped. It did make me hate Elle, I think she's a stinker. Nope, not liking her at all. :down

[Cito]

I can't believe they played the NEDM song when DL got shot. I totally started freakin out. Whoever added that in there is a prophet.

So awesome. http://nedmbitesback.ytmnd.com/

[Downhere]

It did make me hate Elle, I think she's a stinker. Nope, not liking her at all. :down

How can you hate Elle? She's a great character, she brings some humor along with her craziness...which is kind of refreshing and a good alternative to Sylar.

[squeekness]

How can you hate Elle? She's a great character, she brings some humor along with her craziness...which is kind of refreshing and a good alternative to Sylar.She's so sickly sweet and cruel. I was shivering the whole time she was touching Peter. Blech. :down

[Downhere]

She's so sickly sweet and cruel. I was shivering the whole time she was touching Peter. Blech. :down

Exactly, she truly is psychotic. lol. I can't wait to see some more development for her character, there's more than meets the eye with that one. Too bad there are only 3 more episodes left...:csad:...stupid strike!

[The Apocalypse]

Weren't we supposed to find out what happened to Sylar?

Anyway, it was another good ep. Elle is just great.

[squeekness]

Exactly, she truly is psychotic. lol. I can't wait to see some more development for her character, there's more than meets the eye with that one. Too bad there are only 3 more episodes left...:csad:...stupid strike!Yeah, I'm not going to be happy when this ends. :(

[Matt]

I didn't think this ep was all that bad. It explained why Nathan keeps seeing the burned guy, why DL died, how Adam escaped. It did make me hate Elle, I think she's a stinker. Nope, not liking her at all. :down

It already explained why Nathan kept seeing the burnt guy when the Nightmare Man trapped him in his mind. DL could've just as easily died at Kirby Plaza, especially with the way they killed him and Adam's escape could've been done in five minutes of flashbacks as opposed to an hour long episode. The only good part about this episode was Elle's development.

[Matt]

You know what sucks about DL's death? I just watched the episode again online and I see now that he wasn't shot in the back like I thought, the dude walked right up to him! He saw the dude coming! I mean, how long does it take to go all casper anyway? :cmad:

Plus, like someone else said...no Sylar. I'm so mad I feel like flicking peanuts at somebody with super speed.

Especially considering he phased in a split second mere minutes before when the guy tried to punch him.

[squeekness]

Especially considering he phased in a split second mere minutes before when the guy tried to punch him.I suppose they were trying to say he was so engrossed in his reunion, that he never saw the other guy coming. :(

[Matt]

I suppose they were trying to say he was so engrossed in his reunion, that he never saw the other guy coming. :(

I'd buy that if the guy stepped around the corner and pulled the trigger but instead he walked up to him slowly, DL had time to tell him to lay off, and then he shot. It would've made far more sense if he aimed at Nikki and DL stepped infront of her.

[squeekness]

I'd buy that if the guy stepped around the corner and pulled the trigger but instead he walked up to him slowly, DL had time to tell him to lay off, and then he shot. It would've made far more sense if he aimed at Nikki and DL stepped infront of her.True. :)

[DarkSuperman]

I'd buy that if the guy stepped around the corner and pulled the trigger but instead he walked up to him slowly, DL had time to tell him to lay off, and then he shot. It would've made far more sense if he aimed at Nikki and DL stepped infront of her.

I don't know if I would have bought that either. DL has already demonstrated that he can phase others too. I would think that a dude holding gun would cause him to subconsciously turn on his powers before he pulled the trigger. Kinda like Sue Storm putting her hands up and automatically making a shield when threatened.

DL didn't have the most powerful ability, but it was damn sure well suited to prevent him from getting harmed. He really shouldn't have gone out in such a Mundane way. Perhaps if he was high on opium and couldn't control it I could accept it, but dude was fully alert and well practiced with phasing! I mean after getting shot by Linderman you'd think he'd be on his guard! I know I would have been! :cmad:

I can tell you one thing...this never would have happened to Kitty Pryde.

[Pink Ranger]

So i guess it's safe to say that Elle is Bob's daughter.

It would be interesting if Elle and Claire are products of the same program ie giving an "orphaned" special baby to a company man to raise as his own. Maybe there are a near-army of others out there.

[NateGray]

Well I thought it was a great episode even if it did have the lame twins and didn't explain everything we wanted.

[Matt]

It would be interesting if Elle and Claire are products of the same program ie giving an "orphaned" special baby to a company man to raise as his own. Maybe there are a near-army of others out there.

Good theory :up:

[Golgo-13]

As much as i like Ramirez, i'm statring to hate the twins storyline too. They either need to get their asses to NY, or Sylar needs to kill Alejandro, and/or Kill both of them and take Maya's powers.

[Matt]

I like the idea someone had a few weeks back. Sylar takes Aljeandro's power but cannot take Maya's for some reason. Therefore she is entirely dependant on him and vice-versa as he needs her for whatever he has planned.

[The Ones]

As much as i like Ramirez, i'm statring to hate the twins storyline too. They either need to get their asses to NY, or Sylar needs to kill Alejandro, and/or Kill both of them and take Maya's powers.

Then there will be a 3 episode arc of them trying to find the right building Suresh is in.

[Matt]

Then there will be a 3 episode arc of them trying to find the right building Suresh is in.

Each building they try Maya will be detained/beat up/nearly raped, etc and use her powers to escape only to have them shut off by Aljeandro and her cry in a ridiculously melodramatic manner. Sylar will say something semi-threatening/ominous every other building :cwink:

[Abaddon]

I fear that Maya/Alejandro might be the Sanders family of this season. Dragged out storyline, repetitive, weak connection to the others until the last minute, and an unsatisfying payoff in the end.



Haitian- I thought he went rogue last season. Suddenly he turns up at the company and everyones fine. Did Thompson get killed before he reported it.
.

The Haitian was working with Angela. Angela was working with Linderman. Ergo, The Haitian wasn't on bad terms with the Company.
I asked this in the DL thread:

Why would someone commit murder in public, infront of about 20 witnesses, simply over a girl he was dancing with?

it's really not that rare an occurrence.

[Matt]

it's really not that rare an occurrence.

But over such a stupid reason? Serial killers aside, how many murders do you really imagine happen with absolutely no motive?

[RockSP]

It already explained why Nathan kept seeing the burnt guy when the Nightmare Man trapped him in his mind. DL could've just as easily died at Kirby Plaza, especially with the way they killed him and Adam's escape could've been done in five minutes of flashbacks as opposed to an hour long episode. The only good part about this episode was Elle's development.

Pretty much. There wasn't that much development though.

[Eddie Brock]

So basically - from Adam coaching Peter - we now know that Peter, Adam, and Claire are all immune to the Haitian's mindwipe.

Like Adam said, the brain just has to repair itself.

[KALEL114]

So Elle started the fire that Claire lived through. Has that already been brought up? This thread has exploded with pages.

[Eddie Brock]

So Elle started the fire that Claire lived through. Has that already been brought up? This thread has exploded with pages.
The math (apparently) doesn't add up.

Elle = 24. She started the fire when she was 6. 24 - 6 = 18. The fire was 18 years ago.

Claire = 16 last year. So this year, she's still only 17 at the oldest.

[Katsuro]

So Elle started the fire that Claire lived through. Has that already been brought up? This thread has exploded with pages.

No, it was probably Meredith that started the fire, what with her powers being to start fires and all.

[Mysterio]

The math (apparently) doesn't add up.

Elle = 24. She started the fire when she was 6. 24 - 6 = 18. The fire was 18 years ago.

Claire = 16 last year. So this year, she's still only 17 at the oldest.Claire is 16, not 18. if the fire happened 18 years ago, then it happened before Claire was born.

[Eddie Brock]

Claire is 16, not 18. if the fire happened 18 years ago, then it happened before Claire was born.
Which is...my point? :huh:

[KALEL114]

Hold on now. They both (Meredith and Elle) fell apart after believing they started that fire. With all the deceptions and manipulation that goes on, you never know. There is also that rumor floating around that Claire an Elle are related.

[Mysterio]

i didn't really see that you had a point, especially when you said "She started the fire when she was 6."

[KALEL114]

The math (apparently) doesn't add up.

Elle = 24. She started the fire when she was 6. 24 - 6 = 18. The fire was 18 years ago.

Claire = 16 last year. So this year, she's still only 17 at the oldest.
Assuming that are their real ages.....

[Eddie Brock]

The math (apparently) doesn't add up.

Elle = 24. She started the fire when she was 6. 24 - 6 = 18. The fire was 18 years ago.

Claire = 16 last year. So this year, she's still only 17 at the oldest.
Mysterio, you're making no sense. I said exactly what you said. This fire happened 2 years before Claire was even born.

And Elle is the one who said, "I set fire to my grandmother's house when I was 6."

:huh:

[Mysterio]

so you are assuming it's the same house? :whatever:

[Eddie Brock]

so you are assuming it's the same house? :whatever:
When did I ever infer that?

Now you're just forming opinions based on things I've never said.

[Darkdd]

^I think the whole thing is just a theory he has.

[Eddie Brock]

^I think the whole thing is just a theory he has.
I never once said that both fires were one and the same. In fact, I was arguing that the math implies that they weren't.

:huh:

[Sawyer]

She's so sickly sweet and cruel. I was shivering the whole time she was touching Peter. Blech. :down

Hell, I was wishing I was Peter. I'd take a little electricity to get to make out with Elle.

[Eddie Brock]

Hell, I was wishing I was Peter. I'd take a little electricity to get to make out with Elle.
Yeah...and that shock at the end of the kiss probably gets you really going. :cwink:

Milo Ventimiglia is one lucky SOB. As if it wasn't enough that Kristen was all over him ALL EPISODE, he also gets to kiss her.

Me = Jealous. :o

[SuBe]

Yeah...and that shock at the end of the kiss probably gets you really going. :cwink:

Milo Ventimiglia is one lucky SOB. As if it wasn't enough that Kristen was all over him ALL EPISODE, he also gets to kiss her.

Me = Jealous. :o
I'm jealous of Hayden's hands on your avi. Man, I wish I was a hand on her. grr....

[Sawyer]

I want a sandwich with me as the filling and Hayden and Kristen as bread.

[Matt]

I'm jealous of Hayden's hands on your avi. Man, I wish I was a hand on her. grr....

What is that from anyway?

[Eddie Brock]

What is that from anyway?
Bring It On: All or Nothing

[Krozee]

You're dumb. And dont bother replying to this unless you agree with me.

As for the episode, it wasn't particularly great, but it answered a lot of questions. Could've done without Maya and Alejandro's story, as it was completely pointless, and DL's death sucked, but it was nice finding out what happened to Nathan and Peter. Elle was also really damn hot.

Also, i'm so unbelievably happy they had Peter say that line about not being able to fly because he was trying to control his exploding. I was so sick of people asking why Peter didn't fly himself out of there when the answer was so obvious, now i'm just glad they spelled it out plainly.

first off, why are you calling me dumb?? you pretty much agreed with me on all the things except you like this episode a little more.

second, way to act like a ****ing 5 year old and throwing what i said "dont reply unless you agree" in my face. you pretty much DID agree with me you dumbass.

[Katsuro]

first off, why are you calling me dumb?? you pretty much agreed with me on all the things except you like this episode a little more.


I said you're dumb to point out the stupidity of coming to a messageboard, posting a controversial opinion, then asking that only people who agree reply. Why bother with a messageboard at all, why not just have a nice little conversation with yourself.

KROZEE: That episode sucked

KROZEE: Yes, I agree. It was very boring.

KROZEE: Excellent analysis Krozee, it was boring!

[Raiden]

Hell, I was wishing I was Peter. I'd take a little electricity to get to make out with Elle.

Same here. Elle has easily become one of the best characters on Heroes. She is sweet, charming, and yet deadly and very lethal. Kristen Bell played her dual aspects to a tee and although she is dangerous, you just want to be around her. I know I do. :heart:

[Darkdd]

I never once said that both fires were one and the same. In fact, I was arguing that the math implies that they weren't.

:huh:

I meant to say that the whole thing was just a general theory. I had just woken up:p

[Raiden]

Aside from Elle, I have mixed feelings about "4 Months Later". I thought the way the writers offed DL is quite lame, esp. since it's a death that is preventable (DL can phase, you know). However, Adam intrigues me since he came off as a good guy (to Peter), but we all know that he must be harboring a deep resentment ever since Hiro "betrayed" him 400 years ago. Also, the Company felt that he's a threat, that's what they locked him up. What exactly does he mean by "Saving the world", anyway?

I did feel cheated that they took the scenes from the next episode as this episode's teaser, like Hiro & Ando at the funeral, and flashes of Claire/HRG/Matt. It sucks that there're only 3 more eps to go; I don't think we will see enough of Kristen Bell before Dec. 3rd, but probably more scenes of Wonderless Twins (ugh).

[Sawyer]

Aside from Elle, I have mixed feelings around "4 Months Later". I thought the way the writers offed DL is quite lame, esp. since it's a death that is preventable (DL can phase, you know). However, Adam intrigues me since he came off as a good guy (to Peter), but we all know that he must be harboring a deep resentment ever since Hiro "betrayed" him 400 years ago. Also, the Company felt that he's a threat, that's what they locked him up. What exactly does he mean by "Saving the world", anyway?

I did feel cheated that they took the scenes from the next episode as this episode's teaser, like Hiro & Ando at the funeral, and flashes of Claire/HRG/Matt. It sucks that there're only 3 more eps to go; I don't think we will see enough of Kristen Bell before Dec. 3rd, but probably more scenes of Wonderless Twins (ugh).

Hopefully the strike ends soon, so we get more Elle. I needs more Kristen Bell.

[Syncos]

You know what sucks about DL's death? I just watched the episode again online and I see now that he wasn't shot in the back like I thought, the dude walked right up to him! He saw the dude coming! I mean, how long does it take to go all casper anyway? :cmad:

Plus, like someone else said...no Sylar. I'm so mad I feel like flicking peanuts at somebody with super speed.

He saw the guy coming, and told him to let it go or something. He didn't, however see the gun, and considering the dude raised his arm, and blasted him, I'm guessing he wasn't ready.

A fist is a lot easier to dodge than a point blank bullet.

Though his death was ridiculous. I would have been absolutely fine with him going out heroically at kirby plaza. Instead he goes out like a b***h in a night club. o.O

I liked the Peter/Nathan/Adam parts of this episode. But it just seems like so much of those 4 months is still missing. They completely ignored Parkman, Mohinder, Kaito and Ando, and Sylar. :huh:

Am I the only one who thinks that Heroes hasn't been able to live up to the bar they set for themselves with "Five Years Gone"?

[Sawyer]

I'm just pissed that Niki didnt even have it in her to tear the guy in half.

[Raiden]

Am I the only one who thinks that Heroes hasn't been able to live up to the bar they set for themselves with "Five Years Gone"?

You are not the only one. I think "4 Months Later" is actually better than many of the episodes in S2, but that just goes to show that this season is rather average compared to S1, and most of the new characters (except for Elle) are ho-hum. I hope when Heroes return from the strike, they will correct themselves and improve the writings by alot. Otherwise, this sophomore slump might snowballed into something worse.

[Raiden]

I'm just pissed that Niki didnt even have it in her to tear the guy in half.

I'm very unhappy re: Nikki's development. I thought S1's season finale had Nikki finally become courageous, but she just saw her husband murdered and could not muster any will to retaliate, instead slump to the ground, defeated and spiritless. DL told Nikki that she's the stronger one; I think he was mistaken.

[Sawyer]

Kring knows what he's done wrong, even though I dont think this season has been bad. He'll bring things back on track.

[SuBe]

Kring knows what he's done wrong, even though I dont think this season has been bad. He'll bring things back on track.
Wow, that's faith. I'm really digging the season too, but there's so much I wish was different. Like DL and Nikki thing. C'mon! I really liked Hiro's Journey, I lilke Adam, I can't stand the wondertwins and wes (I won't even capitalize his name). I love where the Petrelli's have been and where they are going. But, there's something missing. I want to say it's the pacing but, I dont know. Maybe we are just hoping to learn everything, and we are being impatient.

[Sawyer]

Wow, that's faith. I'm really digging the season too, but there's so much I wish was different. Like DL and Nikki thing. C'mon! I really liked Hiro's Journey, I lilke Adam, I can't stand the wondertwins and wes (I won't even capitalize his name). I love where the Petrelli's have been and where they are going. But, there's something missing. I want to say it's the pacing but, I dont know. Maybe we are just hoping to learn everything, and we are being impatient.

Pretty much the same. I freaking HATE West.

[neemer5]

The math (apparently) doesn't add up.

Elle = 24. She started the fire when she was 6. 24 - 6 = 18. The fire was 18 years ago.

Claire = 16 last year. So this year, she's still only 17 at the oldest.

If she was an older 6, and is now a really young 24, and Claire is a late 17, it COULD work.

But I'm not gonna venture to guess either way.

[neemer5]

I don't know if I would have bought that either. DL has already demonstrated that he can phase others too. I would think that a dude holding gun would cause him to subconsciously turn on his powers before he pulled the trigger. Kinda like Sue Storm putting her hands up and automatically making a shield when threatened.

DL didn't have the most powerful ability, but it was damn sure well suited to prevent him from getting harmed. He really shouldn't have gone out in such a Mundane way. Perhaps if he was high on opium and couldn't control it I could accept it, but dude was fully alert and well practiced with phasing! I mean after getting shot by Linderman you'd think he'd be on his guard! I know I would have been! :cmad:

I can tell you one thing...this never would have happened to Kitty Pryde.

Since by the time you hear a gunshot, even from 100 feet away, the bullet has already hit whatever it was gonna hit, I can understand that he couldn't react quickly enough. I think it would have been more believable if he was shot in the back, or stabbed in the back, or the gun was concealed. Plus you'd think that after seeing your hand go through a guy, you'd be a little freaked.

I suspect it was the writers' way of being poetic. He dodged a bullet, so to speak, and Nikki's condition put him in the same position again.

But yeah, it totally did not work for me at all.

[neemer5]

So basically - from Adam coaching Peter - we now know that Peter, Adam, and Claire are all immune to the Haitian's mindwipe.

Like Adam said, the brain just has to repair itself.

Which is supported by the fact that Adam said they would have killed him if they knew how. My guess is that his healing abilities are also intact with the Haitian.

Makes me wonder about his regeneration. If he's cut exactly down the middle, would he double? Plus where is the extra mass coming from?

[Krozee]

I said you're dumb to point out the stupidity of coming to a messageboard, posting a controversial opinion, then asking that only people who agree reply. Why bother with a messageboard at all, why not just have a nice little conversation with yourself.

KROZEE: That episode sucked

KROZEE: Yes, I agree. It was very boring.

KROZEE: Excellent analysis Krozee, it was boring!

actually, you just said im dumb. nice job on make that clear the first time.:whatever:

and i was in the heat of the moment of writing my opinion because this episode infuriated me.

so just to make little katsuro happy about his stupid little victory over a ****ing messageboard i'll say to everyone: GO AHEAD AND GIVE ME YOUR OPINION AND GO AHEAD AND REPLY TO MINE IN ANYWAY YOU FEEL.

happy now? yay! katsuro: 1. me: 0. now you can go celebrate your hard-earned battle by yourself! god knows you dont have any friends to join you.

[Sebastos]

Last night's episode was disappointing, felt rushed and still we didn't get somethings answered. Like what happened to Sylar after he was stabbed with the sword? D.L.'s death was cheap. I mean come one a gun shot? He couldn't phase through it? In the description for this episode, it said "D.L. makes the ultimate sacrifice." Obviously not true. Adam is immortal and can heal people with his own blood? My god that's awesome. I really also liked Elle in this episode. She's a great character and Bell does a great job with portraying her. There's just three episodes left, I look forward to them but I hope they're better and not bad as this episode.

I love Elle's reaction to shocking people.

I thought it was great too.

I'm enjoying this season. I'm interested to see where the Adam (very subtle, btw) and Hiro thing goes. Especially with Adam controlling the most powerful Hero.

I can't wait for them to meet again but in the present time. Should be great.

Never thought Hiro would attempt to go back in time and save his dad. He's gonna **** something up, watch.

Yeah, I think he might do that. And then maybe we'll see who is under the hood.

All I meant is that he can be killed. Somehow, I'm sure the show will show that eventually.

We'll have to wait and see then.

[Sebastos]

Pretty much the same. I freaking HATE West.

Same here. He's the only character I dislike this season.

[Raiden]

Same here. He's the only character I dislike this season.

You like the twins?

[Sebastos]

You like the twins?

Yes, they have potential. We haven't seen much on them but I think they're cool.

[Neptune]

I expected more from this episode but is was still pretty cool. I'm really starting to like Adam. I just wished he'd do more than heal Nathan.

I didn't like the Niki thing. It makes sense that that's how she ends up with the company but why did Jessica dissapear only to have another personality emerge when Niki wasn't even in danger or anything? And D.L. gets shot again? :huh:

So can we all agree that Mama Petrelli's ability is persuasion? I guess it isn't as strong as Eden's but she definitely used some kind of persuasion power on Heidi.

Uhm....How did Matt survive?

What exactly happened to Sylar?

The Hation just keeps on getting cooler and cooler. I like that he's a double spy.

And Elle is so my kind of girl. I would definitely like to experiment with those volts she gave Peter:o I think she's my new fav.

[Sebastos]

I expected more from this episode but is was still pretty cool. I'm really starting to like Adam. I just wished he'd do more than heal Nathan.

I didn't like the Niki thing. It makes sense that that's how she ends up with the company but why did Jessica dissapear only to have another personality emerge when Niki wasn't even in danger or anything? And D.L. gets shot again? :huh:

So can we all agree that Mama Petrelli's ability is persuasion? I guess it isn't as strong as Eden's but she definitely used some kind of persuasion power on Heidi.

Uhm....How did Matt survive?

What exactly happened to Sylar?

The Hation just keeps on getting cooler and cooler. I like that he's a double spy.

And Elle is so my kind of girl. I would definitely like to experiment with those volts she gave Peter:o I think she's my new fav.

I think we'll see him do more. As for Mama Petrelli's power, from what I remember it was rumored that she could get from one place to another faster than some of the heroes or something like that.

[rdh007]

If Mama Petrelli can talk people into anything as long as she's touching them, then perhaps her husband's suicide wasn't so much a suicide.

[Eddie Brock]

Does anyone make Heroes gif's? I would love an Elle avvy right about now. :yay:

[Raiden]

I think this episode should've at least address what happened to Matt that night, and how he survived 4 bullet wounds on his body, and how he found out about the paternity of the baby (hence the reason he divorced his wife, right?). I don't think they really needed to explain the twin's origin; we already knew that they were on the run after they discovered their powers and killed many people. They didn't need 2 prolong scenes to explain all that.

[Eddie Brock]

I think this episode should've at least address what happened to Matt that night, and how he survived 4 bullet wounds on his body, and how he found out about the paternity of the baby (hence the reason he divorced his wife, right?). I don't think they really needed to explain the twin's origin; we already knew that they were on the run after they discovered their powers and killed many people. They didn't need 2 prolong scenes to explain all that.
Matt survived because gunshots =/= death...no matter the number. Plus, Sylar was throwing them with TK, which means they probably weren't going at maximum velocity.

[Magneto29]

I wonder if they will ever explain why Nathan doesn't end up in Congress, as he did win the election ?

[Krozee]

I wonder if they will ever explain why Nathan doesn't end up in Congress, as he did win the election ?

maybe because of his injuries from peter. even though he was healed, maybe mama petrelli wanted to make everyone think he wasnt able to be in congress.

[Abaddon]

But over such a stupid reason? Serial killers aside, how many murders do you really imagine happen with absolutely no motive?

lots when you consider drunk people at clubs.

[Krozee]

But over such a stupid reason? Serial killers aside, how many murders do you really imagine happen with absolutely no motive?

theres always a motive for killing someone, just some are for stupid reasons.

[SuBe]

I wonder if they will ever explain why Nathan doesn't end up in Congress, as he did win the election ?
I've read this, I think VotePetrelli.com, But not sure, that he declined the position after the accident/divorce, I don't remember. The 2nd runner up got the position.

[Fanticon]

a final note on this episode...for months I had always wondered what happened when Peter and Nathan went up, up and away...the way they showed it was exactly how I had pictured and hoped they would do it...it was intense, quick, suspenseful and emotional...one of the most breathtaking scenes in the entire series imo.

[The Caped Knight]

a final note on this episode...for months I had always wondered what happened when Peter and Nathan went up, up and away...the way they showed it was exactly how I had pictured and hoped they would do it...it was intense, quick, suspenseful and emotional...one of the most breathtaking scenes in the entire series imo.


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[Sawyer]

Nathan sure grew that beard fast. I mean, he was clean shaven when Adam healed him. Right after Peter and Adam left the hospital, Peter ended up in the crate going to Ireland. So, Nathan would've had to have grown that beard in a matter of hours. Not to mention developing that drinking problem.

[Abaddon]

the healing blood sped up his hair growth.:o

[Sawyer]

the healing blood sped up his hair growth.:o

Really? Gotta get me some of that Adam blood. Need a nice Leonidas beard. Not claire blood, though. She's a girl, I dont want to end up sprouting breasts.

[Abaddon]

they'd go perky whenever there's an eclipse.

[Mysterio]

I think we'll see him do more. As for Mama Petrelli's power, from what I remember it was rumored that she could get from one place to another faster than some of the heroes or something like that.that isn't quite how it was presented. it was said she can get from Point A to Point B faster. that doesn't necessarily mean it's related to travel, and it doesn't necessarily mean it's physical. as vague as the description was, she could have superfast reading (point A being the beginning of the book, Point B being the end).

[Sebastos]

Yes, I stand corrected. I forgot how it was mentioned.

[Tyrinus]

I don't know if this came up yet, but it had me thinking.

When Peter was trying to escape his room he pressed his hands against the wall, and he phased through. He wasn't aware he could phase that I'm aware of. I assume he was trying to use his strength to push on and break the wall. Anyone else have any thoughts on it?

[Abaddon]

I'm just gonna accept that it was a continuity error.

[Matt]

I concur. Peter did not try to be exerting strength at all.

[imdaly]

So with Adam's blood in Nathan now....does that give Nathan the power to heal himself?

Nope. Just AIDS.

The self pwn is always the most intense

Isn't that a Sheryl Crow song?

I don't know if this came up yet, but it had me thinking.

When Peter was trying to escape his room he pressed his hands against the wall, and he phased through. He wasn't aware he could phase that I'm aware of. I assume he was trying to use his strength to push on and break the wall. Anyone else have any thoughts on it?

I thought the same thing when I watched it. In my mind, I was assuming he'd phase through the wall, but when I saw him against it, I thought "oh yeah, forgot he had super strength, but phasing would be quieter, no?" Or why not just teleport?

Also, if I were Peter, I would've at LEAST enjoyed my stay with Elle one last time before I left. :D

[Tyrinus]

Did Peter even know he could teleport? He knew Hiro had time related powers, but he may not realize that translates to teleporting.

At some point, I want to see Peter use Molly's power to find someone and then immediately teleport to that location.

[Abaddon]

and then make someone do something with eden's power. And then melt stuff.:hq:

[Damiean Dark]

Is it me or does Kristen Bell have a really cold look sometimes?

[The_Beav]

I don't know if I would have bought that either. DL has already demonstrated that he can phase others too. I would think that a dude holding gun would cause him to subconsciously turn on his powers before he pulled the trigger. Kinda like Sue Storm putting her hands up and automatically making a shield when threatened.

DL didn't have the most powerful ability, but it was damn sure well suited to prevent him from getting harmed. He really shouldn't have gone out in such a Mundane way. Perhaps if he was high on opium and couldn't control it I could accept it, but dude was fully alert and well practiced with phasing! I mean after getting shot by Linderman you'd think he'd be on his guard! I know I would have been!

You realize this is the 3rd time DL has been shot. It only goes to show that his ability to avoid bullets is not his best. Although I think he did phased one that Nikki/Jessica shot at him. That makes him, what, 1 for 4.

[Damiean Dark]

Ep 8 was a great one over last weeks poor one we need to see some more of Monica though and her great powers.

[Mysterio]

When Peter was trying to escape his room he pressed his hands against the wall, and he phased through. He wasn't aware he could phase that I'm aware of. I assume he was trying to use his strength to push on and break the wall. Anyone else have any thoughts on it?He phased out of his handcuffs back in Ireland. he was obviously aware of the ability afterwards.

[The Ones]

He phased out of his handcuffs back in Ireland. he was obviously aware of the ability afterwards.

Isnt that after the "escape from Blondie biatch"?

[Eddie Brock]

Someone I know brought this up today:

Adam's powers manifested when he was in his 30's (approximately). That's why, 400 years later, he still looks like he's in his 30's. Does that mean that Claire will look like she's 16/17 forever? If not, at what point does she stop 'aging?'

[Mysterio]

Isnt that after the "escape from Blondie biatch"?ooohhh...right. but it was before the Haitian mindwipe.

[Xplicit Content]

Someone I know brought this up today:

Adam's powers manifested when he was in his 30's (approximately). That's why, 400 years later, he still looks like he's in his 30's. Does that mean that Claire will look like she's 16/17 forever? If not, at what point does she stop 'aging?'
I can't remember, but wasn't it implied Claire survived the fire as baby because of her power? If that's the case, she manifested back then.

I imagine the anti-aging is a conscious effort by Adam. Certain life threatening emergeances might boot the power up automatically, but certain more subtle things (like aging) might take a more refined manipulation. I think this is the aspect of the power that requires practice and effort.

It also falls into line with Peter using his healing to restore his memory. There's no reason why Peter shouldn't have just healed automatically as soon as the Haitian wiped him clean. Adam had to tell Peter to concentrate on healing it. So while certain things like being stabbed, shot, or crushed, might fire up the healing power as the body's survival reflex, Claire and Adam probably have to work on maintaining youth by manipulating their bodies.

Of course, watch Kring shoot holes through my theory next episode when he chooses to reveal Adam doesn't want to be young forever. But if he does that, he brings up some inconsistences in the show.

[Eddie Brock]

I can't remember, but wasn't it implied Claire survived the fire as baby because of her power? If that's the case, she manifested back then.

I imagine the anti-aging is a conscious effort by Adam. Certain life threatening emergeances might boot the power up automatically, but certain more subtle things (like aging) might take a more refined manipulation. I think this is the aspect of the power that requires practice and effort.

It also falls into line with Peter using his healing to restore his memory. There's no reason why Peter shouldn't have just healed automatically as soon as the Haitian wiped him clean. Adam had to tell Peter to concentrate on healing it. So while certain things like being stabbed, shot, or crushed, might fire up the healing power as the body's survival reflex, Claire and Adam probably have to work on maintaining youth by manipulating their bodies.

Of course, watch Kring shoot holes through my theory next episode when he chooses to reveal Adam doesn't want to be young forever. But if he does that, he brings up some inconsistences in the show.
That's what Claire assumes, but it was never said that was true. Meredith simply assumed that Claire was dead and got out of there.

I highly doubt it's a conscious effort. That means that Adam must always focus on staying young, and if he gets knocked out/goes to sleep, he'll revert back to his 'old' form. I strongly believe it's just a side-effect of the abilities. The body can't begin to fall apart because it heals itself...hence no wrinkles, gray hair, etc.

[Xplicit Content]

Not really. Aging happens as a result of damaged cells, no? All Adam really needs to do is wake up in the morning, and for about a minute, focus on "maintaining" the cells in his body. If he just stays on top of keeping them in good shape, he doesn't always need to concentrate on it. It's just like waking up in the morning and feeding the fish. He wakes up and "feeds" his body with his power to keep it youthful...almost taking sips from the fountain of youth.

And the cells obviously won't revert to dust the second he stops thinking about it...they've been in a constant state of being "rebooted"...they won't just immediately jump into being centuries old. I imagine when Adam decides he wants to grow old, all he'll have to do is stop healing his cells and just start growing old gradually like everyone else.

And I don't really remember the episode, but it seems unlikely Claire will be able to survive a house that was completely burned without a scratch. Wasn't she found in the house after it was already burned down? The smoke inhalation alone would've killed her.

[SuBe]

That's what Claire assumes, but it was never said that was true. Meredith simply assumed that Claire was dead and got out of there.

I highly doubt it's a conscious effort. That means that Adam must always focus on staying young, and if he gets knocked out/goes to sleep, he'll revert back to his 'old' form. I strongly believe it's just a side-effect of the abilities. The body can't begin to fall apart because it heals itself...hence no wrinkles, gray hair, etc.
I don't think that it would work as a "conscious effort" type thing. His healing would regenerate it cells automatically and there for not age. I do believe that Claire and Adam have the exact same ability. I believe they are going to be polar opposites, like Peter and Sylar.

http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/images/photos/hayden-panettiere-bikini-beach-brown.jpgBeautiful huh?

[Mysterio]

I can't remember, but wasn't it implied Claire survived the fire as baby because of her power? If that's the case, she manifested back then.Then why would she suddenly be discovering this ability at age 16? It would have been present throughout her entire childhood, and HRG would certainly have been aware of it.

[Eddie Brock]

Then why would she suddenly be discovering this ability at age 16? It would have been present throughout her entire childhood, and HRG would certainly have been aware of it.
By the same token, in the movie Unbreakable, the main character (played by Bruce Willis) didn't even realize that he was invincible until it was suggested to him by Samuel L. Jackson's character. People are always taking their health for granted.

That said, I still agree that her powers didn't manifest until Six Months Ago.

(I can't believe I referenced an M. Night Shymalan movie...and not even a really good one at that!)

[Xplicit Content]

Then why would she suddenly be discovering this ability at age 16? It would have been present throughout her entire childhood, and HRG would certainly have been aware of it.
It's a valid point, as I doubt Claire went through childhood without falling down and scraping her knee and whatnot...and I admit I never considered that. But who knows, that can probably be explained through the trauma of being burned alive. I wish my memory of Company Man wasn't so fuzzy and I could remember how Claire was found. Her mom always assumed she died in the fire, which led me to believe the Company either went in there and saved her during the fire, or Claire was literally in the house when the fire happened and wasn't found until after the fire was put out...and it's hard to believe someone can manage to stay inside a burned down house.

It's just a theory on my part. We'll have to see how it all plays out. But think about it, once Adam closes a wound, he doesn't need to always concentrate on keeping it closed. Once the wound is healed, it's healed. Same could be said for the aging. Once he heals the "time damage" done to his cells from the previous day, he doesn't need to always concetrate on keeping the cells healed...he's already healed them, same as he doesn't need to maintain his already healed wounds. Plus, there's the Peter situation...Peter always had Claire and Adam's healing...he shouldn't have needed to concentrate on healing his memory if the cell regeneration was completely automatic.

[Katsuro]

And I don't really remember the episode, but it seems unlikely Claire will be able to survive a house that was completely burned without a scratch. Wasn't she found in the house after it was already burned down? The smoke inhalation alone would've killed her.

I believe the webcomic showed that Claude and HRG saved her. They went in to grab the mom, the fire started, and they found the baby and took her out of there.

[Eddie Brock]

I believe the webcomic showed that Claude and HRG saved her. They went in to grab the mom, the fire started, and they found the baby and took her out of there.
And that is correct! Tell him what he's won!

He's won the pride and satisfaction of being correct!

Hmm...our prizes seem to be slipping in quality this year...

[SuBe]

I believe the webcomic showed that Claude and HRG saved her. They went in to grab the mom, the fire started, and they found the baby and took her out of there.
Huh. I forgot about that one.

[KALEL114]

I think her secondary ability will be the stopping of her ageing process. When that will happen (secondary ability activating)seems to differ from person to person.

[Neptune]

I hope they'll show us more interaction between Adam and "the 9". I thought that this episode would clear up a few things but it didn't. What exactly went down 30 years ago? If Adam is so dangerous why did they put him in a cell next to peter (probably the most powerful of them all) without any guards to keep an eye on him?

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

They did not put him there. Adam IS the company. He was placed beside Peter as you describe in order to gain Pete's trust, escape and "change history." Gee, I wonder which of Pete's powers Adam is most interested in?

[Eddie Brock]

Adam is NOT the Company.

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

We'll see in 2 weeks.

And you never answered me about who was in your last avatar...

[Eddie Brock]

We'll see in 2 weeks.

And you never answered me about who was in your last avatar...
It was none other than Miss Indestructible herself: Hayden Panettiere.

[Mysterio]

Adam IS the company.I don't think so.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Cant wait for another round of complaining & whining & arguing tonight :o Fun times :dry:

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

It was none other than Miss Indestructible herself: Hayden Panettiere.
Fascinating... I asked because it looked like Julie Benz, but I couldn't place what it was from.

Oh yeah... and you can tell by looking at him that Bob is somebody's *itch... I just think he's Adam's. Whose do you think? Angela?

[Abaddon]

Julie Benz is in her 30s, and is a much lighter blond.:huh:

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

Julie Benz is in her 30s, and is a much lighter blond.:huh:
It was backlit in red and I couldn't clearly distinguish features, hence my asking.
Don't worry, it'll be OK.

[Abaddon]

good, I was worried.:csad: