Bond Films

[Warhammer]

With a Thanksgiving Bondathon on Spike, and with the James Bond forums being closed, I feel that (like the Star Wars thread) the Bond franchise can get it's own mega thread. With that said, this is a thread to discuss Bond-related films, past and present, except Bond 22, because that has and should have it's own thread.

Discuss!

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[Movies205]

Timothy Dalton was my favorite bond, making my favorite Bond film with Living Daylights! It's interesting my British friend I made here agrees with me but everyone in America I know hates Dalton...

[Symbiotic]

Die Another Day's my favorite of the Brosnan Bonds.:o :word:

[Cousin Itt]

Goldfinger was the best film IMO.

[Warhammer]

Timothy Dalton was my favorite bond, making my favorite Bond film with Living Daylights! It's interesting my British friend I made here agrees with me but everyone in America I know hates Dalton...

I liked Dalton. It's just that in my hierarchy of Bonds, he isn't so high. I thought The Living Daylights was a solid film (especially after A View to a Kill, which was only good because it has my favorite title song, and Walken is in it). Licence to Kill is such a guilty pleasure for me. It's one of my favorite Bond films.

Favorite Bonds:

1. Pierce Brosnan
2. Sean Connery
3. Daniel Craig
4. Timothy Dalton
5. Roger Moore
6. George Lazenby

[Dr Lee]

What happened to the bond area?

[Warhammer]

It got closed down.
It's something you're going to have to ask Mirko and EXCELSIOR about.

[ChickenScratch]

I won't be watching them on TV cuz of the commercial breaks. For me the Bond of film is such a far cry from the Bond of literature that sometimes I don't wanna watch the movies. As for closest to the books, it's gotta be Dalton. If Craig's hair was black he would be perfect.

[Swordmaster]

Besides Casino Royale, On Her Majesty's Secret Service is my personal favorite Bond movie.

[The Englishman]

Besides Casino Royale, On Her Majesty's Secret Service is my personal favorite Bond movie.
The Bond tread above works does'nt it??

[Swordmaster]

...I'm sorry? This is the Bond thread for previous Bond films.

Casino Royale and On Her Majesty's Secret Service are both Bond films from the past.

[Fenrir]

Timothy Dalton was my favorite bond, making my favorite Bond film with Living Daylights! It's interesting my British friend I made here agrees with me but everyone in America I know hates Dalton...

You know, I'm not much into the Bond lore, but just recently I checked a few threads on this site as well as a couple of websites on the recommendation of which I bought Goldfinger and Living Daylights. And surprisingly, after watching both films I liked Living Daylights better especially after hearing consistent praises about Goldfinger being the best Bond film to date.

[Warhammer]

Tomorrow Never Dies is on Spike right now.

[Memphis Slim]

I liked Dalton. It's just that in my hierarchy of Bonds, he isn't so high. I thought The Living Daylights was a solid film (especially after A View to a Kill, which was only good because it has my favorite title song, and Walken is in it). Licence to Kill is such a guilty pleasure for me. It's one of my favorite Bond films.

Favorite Bonds:

1. Pierce Brosnan
2. Sean Connery
3. Daniel Craig
4. Timothy Dalton
5. Roger Moore
6. George Lazenby


Brosnan over Connery??????

1. Connery
2. Daniel Craig
3. Brosnan
4. Roger Moore
5. Lazenby
6. Dalton

[livrule]

Hate to say it but Brosnan is probably my least favourite Bond ...

I don't think its his fault and I really like Goldeneye but the three movies that followed were all over the place. Die Another Day was a shambles.

I grew up with Moore as Bond so he will always be a favouite but like others I think Dalton really nailed the role.

Connery will always be the main man but time has not been kind on his movies and I now find I just tend to laugh my way through most of them.

[Golgo-13]

I grew up in the Moore era, so he'll always be my fav.
Craig is aweosme too.

Favorite Bond flicks:

The Living Daylights.
Live and Let Die
Casino Royale
Octopussy
Goldeneye
The Spy Who Loved Me

Like them all really, except Diamonds are Forever!

Favorite Bond songs:

Live and Let Die
Nobody Does it Better
A View to a Kill
You know my Name.
OHMSS theme.
...sorry, but all of Brosnons Bond themes sucked!:csad:

Favorite Bond Villan:

Jaws
Alec Trevelyan aka '006'
Dr. Kanaga

Favorite Bond Girl:
Hands down...

Major Anya Amasova of 'The Spy Who Loved Me'- played by Barbara Bach

[Warhammer]

Brosnan over Connery??????

1. Connery
2. Daniel Craig
3. Brosnan
4. Roger Moore
5. Lazenby
6. Dalton

Brosnan was the Bond I grew up with. :up:

Favorite Bond flicks:

Goldfinger
From Russia With Love
Goldeneye
Casino Royale
The Spy Who Loved Me
Live or Let Die
Licence to Kill

Favorite Bond songs:

"A View to a Kill"
"Licence to Kill"
"Goldeneye"
"You Know My Name"
"Diamonds are Forever"
"The World is Not Enough"
"Goldfinger"

Favorite Bond Villan:

Alec Trevelyan
Ernst Stavro Blofeld
Mr. Big
Le Chiffre
Xenia Onatopp (or does she count as a Bond girl?)

Favorite Bond Girl:

Pussy Galore
Natalya Simonova
Anya Amasova
Solitaire

[Golgo-13]

Just wanted to add:

Best Bond Opening sequence:

The Living Daylights
The Spy Who Loved Me (Classic) :up:
Casino Royale
Tomorrow Never Dies
Goldeneye
Goldfinger

[Warhammer]

How about Favorite Bond Gun-Barrel Sequence?

[The Chairman]

They're more or less the same.

Goldfinger is my favorite, followed by Goldeneye and Octopussy.

[AhabTheArab]

bond rules and all, but the inconsistency kills the series. that being said i love from russia with love and goldfinger, with the obvious choice of connery as the best bond.

however i might be crazy and the only one, but i liked the pseudo parody films In Like Flint and Our Man Flint a bit better.

[Sebastos]

Goldfinger is in fact the best Bond imo.

[Drizzle]

Die Another Day's my favorite of the Brosnan Bonds.:o :word:

Man, "Goldeneye" is the only good Brosnan Bond film.

[Sebastos]

I actually think Tomorrow Never Dies is good too.

[Golgo-13]

How about Favorite Bond Gun-Barrel Sequence?

Oh, man i love Roger Moore's walk over the 'funky' Bond theme in the 'For Your Eyes Only' gungarrel!

[Movies205]

You know, I'm not much into the Bond lore, but just recently I checked a few threads on this site as well as a couple of websites on the recommendation of which I bought Goldfinger and Living Daylights. And surprisingly, after watching both films I liked Living Daylights better especially after hearing consistent praises about Goldfinger being the best Bond film to date.

It has to do with the fact that Goldfinger invented the formula which every Bond film that came after follows including Living Daylights and Casino Royale. If you watch Dr. No and From Russia with Love there not so rigidly structured as Goldfinger is so in that sense Goldfinger deserves the praise it gets, however not placed in that context I'd have to agree it loses some of its impact.

[Road Warrior]

It was in 1997 when TBS aired its Bond marathon during the Holiday season that I offically became a fan. So...this year is my 10th Anniversary as a Bond fan! :woot:

[A Dark Knight]

IMO CR is the best 007 film easily :up:

Right now they are having a marathon of the Bond films on tv and last night I just happened to watch "On Her Majesty's Secret Service", that was god awful, the actor who played Bond was brutal, I was really shocked at just how bad everything was in that film.

But the good thing is that I have gotten to rewatch all the films with Connery, he was a great Bond.

[Sam Fisher]

I liked Die Another Day:csad:

[Mee]

Favorite Bond- Brosnan. Just ahead of Connery. Need to see more of Craig though he was good.

Favorite movie- Casino Royale or Goldeneye.

Least favorite movie- I dunno, something Roger Moore.

[AhabTheArab]

i thought everyone was joking when they said they liked the other brosnan movies... say it isnt so guys... please..

[ChickenScratch]

I mentioned earlier that I love Dalton and Craig as Bond because their portrayal is closer to the character Fleming wrote. For me the most fun Bond was Moore though. He obviously read the books and fixated on one aspect of his character that was usually kept reigned in (He usually though what Moore says), that being the humor.

As for least favorite it's Brosnan. He looked the part to a T but he didnt play his Bond. He played an amalgam of all the other actors. He didnt bring anything to the role nor move him forward one bit.

[Golgo-13]

I think Brosnon was a great Bond, it's just that besides Goldeneye and TND, the movies weren't really that good.

[Darkfly]

Favorite Bond
1. Daniel Craig
2. Roger Moore
3. Brosnan
4. Dalton
5. Lazenby
6. Connery

Favorite Bond flicks:

Casino Royale
The Spy Who Loved Me
Die Another Day
Goldeneye
A View To A Kill
Live or Let Die

Favorite Bond songs:

"You Know My Name"
"A View to a Kill"
"Goldeneye"
"Licence to Kill"
"Die Another Day"
"The World is Not Enough"
"Diamonds are Forever"

[A Dark Knight]

I liked Die Another Day:csad:

I liked it also :woot:

[jimmylace]

Brosnan is still the king to me and I am one of the few that felt Casino Royale wasn't particularly great. It didn't go far enough for my liking- it should have been a much harder film.

I also felt like I hadn't had enough of brosnan at that point too- it would have been a dream to see a tarantino helmed CR with brosnan..and the way the producers treated the guy when they ditched him and took his idea was pretty sour also.

Of the Brosnans, TWINE is my favourite-despite it's weak moments...it's the one I keep coming back to. DAD- I probably enjoy this more than others do- it was intentionally campy and I can appreciate it for what it is.
Goldeneye is awesome of course and Tomorrow Never Dies could have been a really strong movie with the campness of the villain toned down.

1/ The World Is Not Enough
2/Goldeneye
3/Tomorrow Never Dies
4/Casino Royale (controversial placement- but I still think they didn't go far enough with the intensity of it.)
5/ Die Another Day

Craig...hmmm...doesn't really work for me. I mean, he can sell the role when it comes to action and intensity...but I just couldn't buy him as a ladies man. A View To A Kill was always fun to watch and both of Dalton's movies are really strong. Connery deserves the accolade he gets but I guess that its just generational that I don't really connect with his movies in the same way I do the recent ones....theres something a little too "stiff" about the earlier bonds

1/Brosnan
2/Connery
3/Craig
4/Dalton
5/Lazenby
6/Moore

[Arkady Rossovich]

I would say that Roger Moore is the true James Bond,that British accent always was best.Added to that,he was Bond more than any other actor.

[AhabTheArab]

shame on you people...

[LuiECuomo]

Shame on us for what??

[Episode29]

I find it difficult to rank the Bond's in any order. While Roger Moore is my favourite, I am well aware that Connery is closer in spirit to the character himself. I also loved Brosnan, and enjoyed every one of his films. The Die Another Day hate is ridiculous. Is it great? No. Is it one of the series best? Lord no. But it's no worse that Diamonds Are Forever, Moonraker or View To A Kill. Hell, I'd argue it's superior to those films (Though Moonraker is pretty damn hilarious). Also, I'm gonna wait more than one film before declaring Daniel Craig the greatest Bond of all time. Thus far, he's in George Lazenby country for me; one great Bond movie and the promise of an actual shot at the title.

[ChickenScratch]

I also felt like I hadn't had enough of brosnan at that point too- it would have been a dream to see a tarantino helmed CR with brosnan..and the way the producers treated the guy when they ditched him and took his idea was pretty sour also.


Yeah, a guy in his 50's playing a young Bond just out of the Navy, freshly recruited into the secret service. If you think that after DAD Brosnan could have possibly played a 32 year old bruiser then fine, but I don't. Brosnan, while my least favorite Bond he does play the older, more settled Bond rather well. He's a great actor but way too smooth and urbane to seem like the huge threat that Connery, Dalton, Craig brought across the bruiser/assasin/take no prisoners approach associated with Bond just out of the Navy.

[Satch]

1 - Goldeneye
2 - Tommorow Never Dies
3 - The World is not enough
4 - For your Eyes Only
5 - Casino Royale

[Road Warrior]

I would say that Roger Moore is the true James Bond,that British accent always was best.Added to that,he was Bond more than any other actor.

Roger Moore was a joke. Sean Connery IS James Bond while Pierce Brosnan and Daniel Craig played great Bonds. Moore had potential to be great but he didn't take the role seriously.

[Warhammer]

I mentioned earlier that I love Dalton and Craig as Bond because their portrayal is closer to the character Fleming wrote. For me the most fun Bond was Moore though. He obviously read the books and fixated on one aspect of his character that was usually kept reigned in (He usually though what Moore says), that being the humor.

As for least favorite it's Brosnan. He looked the part to a T but he didnt play his Bond. He played an amalgam of all the other actors. He didnt bring anything to the role nor move him forward one bit.

He had the humor of Moore and the seriousness of Connery. That's another reason why Brosnan was my favorite Bond. I never liked Moore as much because he was the humorous, less serious Bond.

Yeah, a guy in his 50's playing a young Bond just out of the Navy, freshly recruited into the secret service. If you think that after DAD Brosnan could have possibly played a 32 year old bruiser then fine, but I don't. Brosnan, while my least favorite Bond he does play the older, more settled Bond rather well. He's a great actor but way too smooth and urbane to seem like the huge threat that Connery, Dalton, Craig brought across the bruiser/assasin/take no prisoners approach associated with Bond just out of the Navy.

If you thought Brosnan's age was bad, maybe you didn't see Roger Moore's later Bond films (preferably, a View to a Kill). He was old as dirt in that film. He seriously looked out of place.

[Road Warrior]

If you thought Brosnan's age was bad, maybe you didn't see Roger Moore's later Bond films (preferably, a View to a Kill). He was old as dirt in that film. He seriously looked out of place.

lol. Agreed. :up: Moore should have ended the franchise with Octopussy. A View to a Kill is a guilty pleasure of mine, but I agree that Moore was WAY to old. You know whats funny though? In 1973 everyone thought Roger Moore was younger than Connery (which wasn't the case) but by the `80s Moore started to age really bad while Connery somehow started to look better than he did in the `70s. In 1985, Connery, would have been a more convincing Bond than Roger Moore!

[ChickenScratch]

I know that, but Rodger never ever proposed to play Bond in CR. In fact he's the guy who played the literary older Bond (except for LALD and MR), after all, he starred in TMWTGG, the last full Bond story.

My issue is, Brosnan was so keen on playing younger Bond he should have angled for it earlier rather than after he was already long in the tooth. He lack's the cruelty, the bluntness or even the physical build Fleming described Bond as early on.

[Warhammer]

lol. Agreed. :up: Moore should have ended the franchise with Octopussy. A View to a Kill is a guilty pleasure of mine, but I agree that Moore was WAY to old. You know whats funny though? In 1973 everyone thought Roger Moore was younger than Connery (which wasn't the case) but by the `80s Moore started to age really bad while Connery somehow started to look better than he did in the `70s. In 1985, Connery, would have been a more convincing Bond than Roger Moore!

True.

Octopussy is on Spike right now, and I'm watching it thinking "Moore is really pushing it (age-wise) in this." Brosnan was old in DAD, but he still looks like he was in his late-30s. I was watching Never Say Never, and I almost forgot that it came out when A View to a Kill was released.

[jimmylace]

Yeah, a guy in his 50's playing a young Bond just out of the Navy, freshly recruited into the secret service. If you think that after DAD Brosnan could have possibly played a 32 year old bruiser then fine, but I don't. Brosnan, while my least favorite Bond he does play the older, more settled Bond rather well. He's a great actor but way too smooth and urbane to seem like the huge threat that Connery, Dalton, Craig brought across the bruiser/assasin/take no prisoners approach associated with Bond just out of the Navy.

the early idea, when brosnan was on board was to make C-R a sort of sequel I think.

[Warhammer]

My issue is, Brosnan was so keen on playing younger Bond he should have angled for it earlier rather than after he was already long in the tooth. He lack's the cruelty, the bluntness or even the physical build Fleming described Bond as early on.

I think he was in consideration before Dalton to be Bond, but he wanted to finish Remington Steele. Also, when I watched his Biography episode, a few years back, I think I remember him saying something like he felt like he needed to be a bit older before being Bond. He didn't want to be viewed as some young punk Bond, because of his looks.

Not sure if that's all true, though.

[Warhammer]

the early idea, when brosnan was on board was to make C-R a sort of sequel I think.

I would've been interesting to see Tarantino's take on Bond.

[ChickenScratch]

Seems like we are all on the same page with the age thing then. The Remmington Steele thing did put a hurting on Brosnan's not coming in early and if he did enter the picture iin the 80's sure he could have done CR. It would have been great too. Considering when he wanted to do it though, it would not have worked. To be fair though, even at Moore's youngest he still could not have pulled off CR IMO.

[Golgo-13]

I would have loved to have seen Brosnon come aboard when he was sopposed to for The Living Daylights....

[Warhammer]

Seems like we are all on the same page with the age thing then. The Remmington Steele thing did put a hurting on Brosnan's not coming in early and if he did enter the picture iin the 80's sure he could have done CR. It would have been great too. Considering when he wanted to do it though, it would not have worked. To be fair though, even at Moore's youngest he still could not have pulled off CR IMO.

I'm surprised how 37-year old Craig pulled it off. :up:

[ChickenScratch]

Still in his 30's so he could pull off early 30's easy.

[Warhammer]

How old was Bond in the book?
Late-20's?

[Secret_Riddle]

For me it's no question

Casino Royale.

[ChickenScratch]

How old was Bond in the book?
Late-20's?

I can't quote it right now I would have to check. I do remember that he left the service in his later 20's after WW2 and went to work for Universal Exports (MI6) a year or so after. CR picks up after his first case and first 2 kills so I would guess about 30 because of training and in Moonraker it was mentioned that the field agents get at most 2 missions a year.

[Warhammer]

Oh, gotcha.

[Sebastos]

Casino Royale is my favorite Bond film. I liked Goldeneye and Tomorrow NEver Dies but to my, Connery and Craig are the best Bonds.

[Warhammer]

Apparently, the Bondathon is already over, and it isn't even Thanksgiving yet. :confused:

Oh well, UFC is always good. :up:

[Sam Fisher]

Apparently, the Bondathon is already over, and it isn't even Thanksgiving yet. :confused:

Oh well, UFC is always good. :up:
Yeah, odd:confused:

[ChickenScratch]

Ufc!

[webhead921]

Bronsan is my favorite Bond. Very smooth and cunning. My favorite Bond movie is Goldeneye. To me, it is the perfect bond movie.

[Road Warrior]

Apparently, the Bondathon is already over, and it isn't even Thanksgiving yet. :confused:

Its NOT according to my Direct TV listings.

Moonraker at 1AM
GoldenEye, Tomorrow Never Dies, and The World Is Not Enough on Friday
You Only Live Twice on Saturday morning

I'll admit that it wasn't much of a Bond marathon, but it ain't over yet.

[Sebastos]

Apparently, the Bondathon is already over, and it isn't even Thanksgiving yet. :confused:

Oh well, UFC is always good. :up:

That is odd. :huh:

[The Chris]

I'm disappointed about the Bond marothon this year. Usually spike tv runs these things in the hole, especially thanksgiving week, this year they're showing their series. Understandable, but dang it!

[Rac]

Timothy Dalton was my favorite bond, making my favorite Bond film with Living Daylights! It's interesting my British friend I made here agrees with me but everyone in America I know hates Dalton...
I like Dalton too. He was badass.

[Road Warrior]

That is odd. :huh:

read the post above yours

[Warhammer]

Yeah, I checked my cable guide, too. They are showing Bond films sporadically. One tonight at 1 AM, films all day until 8 or 9 on Friday, and one on Saturday morning. With that said, this was a terrible Bondathon. They better redeem this with a 007 days of Christmas, or a New Years Bondathon (most cable networks have great New Years movie marathons). AMC should do another one, since they had one two years ago.

:down

[Bat Bond]

Ah, my forte. :D

If I had to rank Bonds, it would go like this:
1. Connery
2. Craig

3. Dalton
4. Lazenby

5. Moore

6. Brosnan

Top 5 films? Eh...
1. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
2. CASINO ROYALE
3. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE
4. GOLDFINGER
5. THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS

In just a few words on the state of the franchise right now, Bond is looking as good as ever. After DIE ANOTHER DAY it was looking as if the Bond films were as stale and unnecessary as ever. Thankfully there was a big creative shakeup and CASINO ROYALE was made, giving a much-needed jolt to a franchise dying in self-parody and comical action. The future looks bright and as long as we have Craig, things will be in good hands.

[Road Warrior]

this was a terrible Bondathon.

I have been watching Bond marathons for the past 10 years and this has been the worst one! Back in the day, TBS had awesome Bond marathons. Spike has had pretty good ones but they messed up this year. AMC had potential for a great Bond marathon but they screwed it up by cutting too many scenes. As for the BEST Bond marathon...that would go to Encore. They aired all Bond movies uncut, uncensored, and commerical free. Who can beat that? However, the TBS marathons will always be special to me because it was during those marathons that I fell in love with this franchise.

[Road Warrior]

Yeah, I checked my cable guide, too.

The cable guide was correct. Moonraker is on right now!

[Bat Bond]

I loved the first couple years of the Spike Bond marathons. Now they suck.

They used to play them virtually all day around the Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays. Not anymore.

[Warhammer]

It sucks that they had to intercut the Bondathon with CSI syndication, and today, Spike is showing "When Animals Attack," "World's Wildest Police Videos," etc.

[Sebastos]

I saw Moonraker last night, one of my favorite Bond films. Who would like to see a video game adaption of the movie?

[Warhammer]

If From Russia With Love can get one, then Moonraker would be a walk in the park.

:up:

[Sebastos]

If From Russia With Love can get one, then Moonraker would be a walk in the park.

:up:

Yes, that's what I was thinking. It'd be awesome if we could actually play the sky chase scene.

[Road Warrior]

I saw Moonraker last night, one of my favorite Bond films. Who would like to see a video game adaption of the movie?

If From Russia With Love can get one, then Moonraker would be a walk in the park.

:up:

Difference is that FRWL is considered one of the best Bond films while Moonraker is considered one of the worst.

[Warhammer]

I always thought that Moonraker was unanimously looked down upon, but I checked my cable guide, and it had 3 1/2 out of 4 stars.

[ChickenScratch]

If Moonraker was anything at all like the book it was based on it would have been brutal. Some of the best Bond getting beat up, burned to a crisp, crawling through broken glass you've ever read. But then most people would not accept a Bond story that takes place all in England (people seem to think the movies are travelogues) or that Bond can't be beat (when he gets pretty torn up in most of the books) or that he alway gets the girl (in MR she was engaged and he didn't get her).

[Sam Fisher]

So out of the four DVD boxsets, which one is the best to get first?

[Warhammer]

All of the box sets have good mixed with bad, but the best of the bunch is Volume 3 (the red one).

[Warhammer]

Anyone watching Goldeneye right now?
It's my favorite Bond film.

[LexCorp]

Mega thread sounds good to me

[LeChuck]

I liked Die Another Day:csad:
I liked the first 30 or so minutes. The rest, I'm sorry to say, was the B&R of the Bond-verse. :csad:

[LexCorp]

Anyone watching Goldeneye right now?
It's my favorite Bond film.

What a great film if anything the villian (Sean Bean) was better to watch than Bond. But that said Pierce really did a great performance of the character.

"For England James?"

"No...... for me"

[Warhammer]

Yep, Alec is my favorite Bond villain, as well, which is another reason why I love Goldeneye. It has the best score, Martin Campbell directed it (he either directs a great film, or a god-awful film, and this was the one of the former), etc.

[LexCorp]

Yep, Alec is my favorite Bond villain, as well, which is another reason why I love Goldeneye. It has the best score, Martin Campbell directed it (he either directs a great film, or a god-awful film, and this was the one of the former), etc.

Yes I always thought a rouge 00 was a good idea for a villian. That film got everything right. It started a rebirth for Bond IMO just as Casino Royale has.

[Warhammer]

Word. :up:

[LexCorp]

Word. :up:

Indeed word my bro hype homie user. I don't do slang. :csad:

[Warhammer]

Ok, "Agreed". :up:

[Mr Jide]

I don't believe what I'm seeing here.

GE is the most overrated Bond movie ever. It was good but it wasn't that great. I don't know who it was but some one placed Connery at the bottom of their list of best Bonds. Was that ment to be a deliberate act of seeking attention or blatant stupidity?

Best Bond
Sean f***ing Connery IS James Bond!!
http://www.sssm.com.ar/frwl-wallp.jpg

Daniel Craig
George Lazenby (shamefully underrated)
Timothy Dalton
Pierce Brosnan + Roger Moore (These two clowns are as bad as each other)

Best Bond movies
GF
FRWL
CR
DR.No
TB
OHMSS
.....Then there's everything else.

I was born in'85 so Dalton would have Been Bond at the time but technically, I grew up with Brosnan and luckilly that hasn't clouded my opinions on what good acting and story telling is all about.

Best Bond themes
FRWL (beautiful instrumental/excellently sang by Matt Munroe at the end)
GF/DAF (Bassey's powerful, melodic vocals to this day is unmatched)
OHMSS (Barry once again delivers an instrumental masterpiece}
TB (Tom Jones delivers a near-perfect song with the right amount of zeal)

Best Bond girl
Ursula Andress (the bastion of bond girls)
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Sophie Marceau
Honour Blackman
Eva Green

I'm glad CR turned out the way it did and I hope we get more of the same. I want to see Bond investigate more and for the movies to keep using early connery-era Bond flicks as a blueprint to maintain the Bond magic.

Best Villain

GF (The best and ultimate villain not just in the Bond movies but one of the best villains ever conceived by the human mind)
http://www.archivo007.com/Images/Goldfinger.jpg

Red Grant
006
Early Blofeld
Rosa Klebb
Onnatop
Oddjob

N/B Jaws is an overrated idiot.

[Warhammer]

Somebody doesn't respect other people's opinions.

[Mr Jide]

I do but Connery at the bottom of the list isn't an opinion, it's just flat out ignorance.:cwink: :oldrazz:

[Sam Fisher]

All of the box sets have good mixed with bad, but the best of the bunch is Volume 3 (the red one).
How about extras compared to the old DVD? Is it true that the DAD DVD is the same as the 2002 release?


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Is the game any good?

[Mr Jide]

The game is alright but not as good as EON.

[AhabTheArab]

I don't believe what I'm seeing here.

GE is the most overrated Bond movie ever. It was good but it wasn't that great. I don't know who it was but some one placed Connery at the bottom of their list of best Bonds. Was that ment to be a deliberate act of seeking attention or blatant stupidity?

Best Bond
Sean f***ing Connery IS James Bond!!
http://www.sssm.com.ar/frwl-wallp.jpg

Daniel Craig
George Lazenby (shamefully underrated)
Timothy Dalton
Pierce Brosnan + Roger Moore (These two clowns are as bad as each other)

Best Bond movies
GF
FRWL
CR
DR.No
TB
OHMSS
.....Then there's everything else.

I was born in'85 so Dalton would have Been Bond at the time but technically, I grew up with Brosnan and luckilly that hasn't clouded my opinions on what good acting and story telling is all about.

Best Bond themes
FRWL (beautiful instrumental/excellently sang by Matt Munroe at the end)
GF/DAF (Bassey's powerful, melodic vocals to this day is unmatched)
OHMSS (Barry once again delivers an instrumental masterpiece}
TB (Tom Jones delivers a near-perfect song with the right amount of zeal)

Best Bond girl
Ursula Andress (the bastion of bond girls)
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Sophie Marceau
Honour Blackman
Eva Green

I'm glad CR turned out the way it did and I hope we get more of the same. I want to see Bond investigate more and for the movies to keep using early connery-era Bond flicks as a blueprint to maintain the Bond magic.

Best Villain

GF (The best and ultimate villain not just in the Bond movies but one of the best villains ever conceived by the human mind)
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Red Grant
006
Early Blofeld
Rosa Klebb
Onnatop
Oddjob

N/B Jaws is an overrated idiot.

finally someone gets it right.

[Sebastos]

I always thought that Moonraker was unanimously looked down upon, but I checked my cable guide, and it had 3 1/2 out of 4 stars.

I did the same and it was listed with 3 1/2 aswell. :up:

[Warhammer]

I do but Connery at the bottom of the list isn't an opinion, it's just flat out ignorance.:cwink: :oldrazz:

Hmm...well, I agree that Connery shouldn't be on the bottom. :)

I did the same and it was listed with 3 1/2 aswell. :up:

I guess it was one of those films got the two extremes of critical reception. Half of the critics loved it and thought it was phenomenal, while the other half straight hated the damn thing. Another reason why Rotten Tomatoes is a horrible review site.

:oldrazz:

[The Chairman]

Connery is the best Bond. Period. If I had to rank them:

1) Connery
2) Moore
3) Brosnan
4) Craig
5) Dalton
6) Lazenby

[LexCorp]

Hmm...well, I agree that Connery shouldn't be on the bottom. :)



I guess it was one of those films got the two extremes of critical reception. Half of the critics loved it and thought it was phenomenal, while the other half straight hated the damn thing. Another reason why Rotten Tomatoes is a horrible review site.

:oldrazz:

RT is a pathetic review site indeed. Just like aint it cool.

Connery is the best Bond. Period. If I had to rank them:

1) Connery
2) Moore
3) Brosnan
4) Craig
5) Dalton
6) Lazenby

I would change that around IMO

1) Connery
2) Craig
3) Brosnan
4) Dalton
5) Lazenby
6) Moore

[Fanticon]

can we really rank craig that high after one movie? By default i would have to say connery, brosnan, moore and than craig...rate the 3 who've done the most...when craig finishes his 4 picture deal we'll see if he can move up in the ranks. even dalton looks good next to craig with only two movies. He just happened to be at the wrong end of the decade.

[LexCorp]

can we really rank craig that high after one movie? By default i would have to say connery, brosnan, moore and than craig...rate the 3 who've done the most...when craig finishes his 4 picture deal we'll see if he can move up in the ranks. even dalton looks good next to craig with only two movies. He just happened to be at the wrong end of the decade.

IMO Brosnan only made 1 good bond film too. GE. Which is why I put him under...quality not quantity. Moores did loads but he was a victim of his decade.

[Catman]

Moores did loads but he was a victim of his decade.

Moore did one great Bond movie (The Spy Who Loved Me), one entertaining movie (Octopussy), one debatable installment (For Your Eyes Only), a guilty pleasure (A View to a Kill), and three crappy movies (Live & Let Die, Golden Gun, and Moonraker).

[LexCorp]

Moore did one great Bond movie (The Spy Who Loved Me), one entertaining movie (Octopussy), one debatable installment (For Your Eyes Only), a guilty pleasure (A View to a Kill), and three crappy movies (Live & Let Die, Golden Gun, and Moonraker).

Moore for me just has the least class out of every Bond.

[Catman]

Moore for me just has the least class out of every Bond.

I'm not too crazy about his era either, but TSWLM is a top 5 Bond in my book. So...I give the man credit for that.

[LexCorp]

I'm not too crazy about his era either, but TSWLM is a top 5 Bond in my book. So...I give the man credit for that.

Indeed give credit where it is due. But I Connery IMO never failed once.

[Catman]

Connery IMO never failed once.

Agreed. I even like Diamonds Are Forever. :o :o :o :o :o

[LexCorp]

Agreed. I even like Diamonds Are Forever. :o :o :o :o :o

lol

Even with the gay dudes....

[buddha182]

Moore for me just has the least class out of every Bond.
You guys are all ridiculous... Being a Bond fan from birth I still don't like Connery and still think Moore is the best Bond. He's done so so many great Bonds. There's not a single Bond movie I don't like (yea, I'm that kind of fan), but if I had to choose one, I'd say Diamonds Are Forever... All of the Connery ones really aren't too memorable, but everything with Moore is what I watched growing up and what I regard as the best Bond films of all time...

Either way, this is an endless debate - it's always personal choice :woot:

[chamber-music]

My list goes
1.Connery (The Man)
2.Brosnan (was a mixture of his predessors, you can't really hate)
3.Craig (may go higher depending on the sequals)
4.Dalton (underrated Bond IMO)
5.Moore (played Bond like a Parody although he got some of the better book adaptations)
6.Lazenby (Lazenby was ok, he got one of the most intresting storyline in Bond History)

On Her Majesty's Secret Service also has one of the greatest underrated Bond songs "We Have All the Time in the World" by Louis Armstrong.

[chamber-music]

Sean Connery: I'll Nevah Do Anawtha Film!
Scottish actor SIR SEAN CONNERY has vowed his retirement from the movie industry is for good this time - but his wife's not convinced.

The James Bond legend, 77, has snubbed the previous five $40 million (£20 million) projects offered to him, including the latest Indiana Jones film directed by Steven Spielberg - and he's adamant his door will remain closed to all future propositions.

He vehemently says, "It's over. I will never do another film." However, Connery's wife of 30 years, Micheline Roquebrune, has little faith in her husband: "He's said that twice before!"

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http://www.pr-inside.com/connery-i-ll-never-make-another-movie-r314947.htm (http://www.pr-inside.com/connery-i-ll-never-make-another-movie-r314947.htm)


Sad news :csad:
Seriously Sean do one more film. Please don't let your last movie be LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN!

[Mr Jide]

You guys are all ridiculous... Being a Bond fan from birth I still don't like Connery

The irony just makes you sound mad.:o :oldrazz:

and still think Moore is the best Bond. He's done so so many great Bonds.

He's done many but most of them were garbage. Comparing him to Connery makes Moore look like a bufoon.

There's not a single Bond movie I don't like (yea, I'm that kind of fan), but if I had to choose one, I'd say Diamonds Are Forever...

DAF was kind of bad and Connery's heart wasn't even in it. He just did it to finance a project he was starting up in scotland.

All of the Connery ones really aren't too memorable,

You are on hard drugs:o

but everything with Moore is what I watched growing up and what I regard as the best Bond films of all time...

Why do people use this as an excuse to justify which is the best Bond? I was born in '85 but grew up with Brosnan as Bond. I however, went back and watched all Bond movies and based on the aesthetics of pure skill and class, Connery owns them all. Period.

Either way, this is an endless debate - it's always personal choice :woot:

There's no such thing as personal choice when discussing Bond. It's either Connery or you're mad!:o :cwink: :oldrazz:

[Mr Jide]

Sad news :csad:
Seriously Sean do one more film. Please don't let your last movie be LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN!

I would be pleasently surprised if he came out of retirement to star as Big Boss in a live action MGS movie.

[chamber-music]

He's done many but most of them were garbage. Comparing him to Connery makes Moore look like a bufoon.

Why do people use this as an excuse to justify which is the best Bond? I was born in '85 but grew up with Brosnan as Bond. I however, went back and watched all Bond movies and based on the aesthetics of pure skill and class, Connery owns them all. Period.

There's no such thing as personal choice when discussing Bond. It's either Connery or you're mad!:o :cwink: :oldrazz:

I agree with everything you just said :up:

Moore played Bond like a parody. Flemmings Bond was a cold hearted SOB in the books.

[Mr.E.Nygma]

Sad news :csad:
Seriously Sean do one more film. Please don't let your last movie be LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN!He already let the official Bond franchise with Diamonds Are Forever, and let's not talk about NSNA.
LXG > DAF

[Sam Fisher]

LXG wasn't that bad....

[John Zatara]

1) Craig
2) Dalton
3) Connery
4) Brosnan
5) Moore
6) Lazenby

IMO

[Catman]

He already let the official Bond franchise with Diamonds Are Forever, and let's not talk about NSNA.
LXG > DAF

DAF was meant to be a silly Bond film. It was good for what it was. Never Say Never Again had its moments but yea not really good movie.

[Warhammer]

For some reason, I love DAF's pre-title sequence. "Welcome to hell, Blofeld."

[Vile]

Moonraker was the greatest Bond film EVER.

EVER.

=)

[Catman]

For some reason, I love DAF's pre-title sequence. "Welcome to hell, Blofeld."

It was a great pre-title sequence.

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[Mr Jide]

DAF....the blofeld character was shamelessly raped up the bum, the mouse trap gadget makes me laugh every time and Conner's voice is still very silky, although I wish this film would have been handled in a more serious manner. Bassey's theme is excellent.

[Catman]

After the seriousness of OHMSS they wanted to take the franchise into a light hearted direction. I think they pulled it off with DAF. Too bad they couldn't pull it off with most of Roger Moore's movies. :csad:

[Kevin Roegele]

Moonraker was the greatest Bond film EVER.

EVER.

=)

It does have a superb pre-title sequence (until the slapstick with Jaws at the end).

[Mr.E.Nygma]

1) Craig
2) Dalton
3) Connery
4) Brosnan
5) Moore
6) Lazenby

IMOI like your ranking! Perhaps would switch Dalton with Craig, other than that. But the two last deserve their ranking... a lot...

[Catman]

It does have a superb pre-title sequence (until the slapstick with Jaws at the end).

Thats whats wrong with Moonraker. Everytime its starting to get good they find a way to screw it up.

[Kevin Roegele]

Thats whats wrong with Moonraker. Everytime its starting to get good they find a way to screw it up.

True, but there are films like Diamonds are Forever and Die Another Day which never start to get good in the first place.

[Catman]

True, but there are films like Diamonds are Forever

:wow: :csad:

and Die Another Day which never start to get good in the first place.

:yay:

[Kevin Roegele]

:wow: :csad:



:yay:

Please explain to me the good parts of Diamonds are Forever. I mean, none of the Moore films go as far as having Blofeld dressed as a woman.

[Furious Styles]

I still feel that the pre-title sequence of Die Another Day was of one the most extraordinary sequences in Bond history. The action was superb, intense and thrilling. Bond getting captured wasn't tacky. It seemed like it would serve as an anchor the entire film.

In the end, it didn't, but it was still a good beginning.

[Mr.E.Nygma]

Exactly! Heck, Brosnan got some of the finest Bond opening sequences in the whole franchise, they were all awesome at different levels!

[Sebastos]

The high tech crap in DAD was really lame imo.

[Warhammer]

Lee Tamahori was the wrong choice to direct Die Another Day. However, without him, EON wouldn't have fixed themselves, and decided to bring quality to the franchise again. They are now hiring directors that are something, rather than bad directors and nobodies.

[Golgo-13]

Exactly! Heck, Brosnan got some of the finest Bond opening sequences in the whole franchise, they were all awesome at different levels!

I agree with that. Even DAD opening kicked ass.

[Catman]

Please explain to me the good parts of Diamonds are Forever.

The movie was entertaining and had funny scenes. They wanted to make a light hearted movie and managed to pull it off.

[LexCorp]

I still feel that the pre-title sequence of Die Another Day was of one the most extraordinary sequences in Bond history. The action was superb, intense and thrilling. Bond getting captured wasn't tacky. It seemed like it would serve as an anchor the entire film.

In the end, it didn't, but it was still a good beginning.

I think that was a very bad opening title sequence. The sound track alone was low grade mess. Brosnans worst film IMO.

[Mr Jide]

What was the pre title sequence in tomorrow never dies...I cant remember. Brosnan had some good pts but they were more spectacle-styled sequences. They lacked a lot of charm and class. GF's PTS beats all of Brosnan's imo. It had action, charm and class.

[Catman]

What was the pre title sequence in tomorrow never dies...I cant remember.

The Top Gun-esque one. :huh:

[Warhammer]

TND had a bad pre-title sequence. TWINE had a good one, though. I like the pre-title sequence for DAD, too.

[Warhammer]

What was your favorite Bond theme?

(Try to only name up to five)

[Catman]

What was your favorite Bond theme?

(Try to only name up to five)

theme song or score?

[Warhammer]

Theme song.

[Catman]

Theme song.

1. YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE - NANCY SINATRA
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2. GOLDFINGER - SHIRLEY BASSEY
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3. LIVE AND LET DIE - PAUL McCARTNEY
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4. NOBODY DOES IT BETTER - CARLY SIMON
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5. WE HAVE ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD - LOUIS ARMSTRONG
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[Bat Bond]

1. LIVE AND LET DIE by Paul McCartney
2. NOBODY DOES IT BETTER by Carly Simon
3. WE HAVE ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD by Louis Armstrong
4. GOLDFINGER by Shirley Bassey
5. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE by John Barry

[Warhammer]

1. Duran Duran - A VIEW TO A KILL

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2. Paul McCartney & Wings - LIVE AND LET DIE

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3. Chris Cornell - YOU'LL KNOW MY NAME

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4. Nancy Sinatra - YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE

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5. Sheryl Crow - TOMORROW NEVER DIES

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[Catman]

5. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE by John Barry

Thats not a song. Its a score.

1. Duran Duran - A VIEW TO A KILL

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The best Bond tune from the `80s. :up:

[Warhammer]

^:up:

[Catman]

^:up:

It's really the only great song from the `80s. The other ones were just good. I think the `60s was the best decade for the Bond songs AND score. The `70s and `80s were alright. The `90s were decent. And the 2000s, SO FAR, has been disappointing. :csad:

[Warhammer]

Madonna's song for DAD is meh. I love Chris Cornell's song for CR, though. I was a big Audioslave and Soundgarden fan. Chris Cornell was my favorite lead singer when he was with Audioslave.

[BobJM]

Tina Turner - GoldenEye

Love it.

[Sebastos]

I agree with Warhammer, I liked Cornell's them for Casino Royale.

[Mr Jide]

GF- Shirly Bassey
DAF-Shirly Bassey
FRWL-Matt Munroe
TB-Tom Jones

[Catman]

GF- Shirly Bassey
DAF-Shirly Bassey
FRWL-Matt Munroe
TB-Tom Jones

Good choices :up:

[chamber-music]

Thats not a song. Its a score.



The best Bond tune from the `80s. :up:

I prefer Living Daylights by A-Ha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rNQTi1Zumk

[Brian Braddock]

True, but there are films like Diamonds are Forever and Die Another Day which never start to get good in the first place.

Have to disagree with you slightly there Kev. Only slightly though.

There's about a minute of DAF that I enjoyed - the reintroduction of Connery as Bond by way of a shakedown of various bad-guys and low-lifes in pursuit of Blofeld (possibly in continuity with the killing of Tracey in OHMSS?), culminating in Bond choking a woman with her own bikini top while quiping, "Speak up darling, I can't hear you................." in Connery's own inimitable style.

Bond at his most sadistic, uncaring and driven.

I love the 'nastiness' of it - it's a shame that the rest of the film didnt keep the same tone. It went downhill from there.

100 % agreed on DAD though.

[Warhammer]

It's really the only great song from the `80s. The other ones were just good. I think the `60s was the best decade for the Bond songs AND score. The `70s and `80s were alright. The `90s were decent. And the 2000s, SO FAR, has been disappointing. :csad:

Oh yeah. I forgot to agree with you on that. Altogether, the 60's had the best Bond theme songs.

[LexCorp]

Oh yeah. I forgot to agree with you on that. Altogether, the 60's had the best Bond theme songs.

Indeed although I really like the one for Casino Royale. It hit the spot.

[ChickenScratch]

All I gotta say is Dance Into The Fire.

[Road Warrior]

All I gotta say is Dance Into The Fire.

LOL. Only in the `80s you got lyrics like that.

[LexCorp]

All I gotta say is Dance Into The Fire.

Yes great tune...

All I have to say is "You know my name!"

[Drizzle]

The best Bond theme songs?

1. A View To A Kill-Duran Duran
2. You Know My Name-Chris Cornell
3. Live and Let Die-Paul McCartney and Wings
4. Nobody Does It Better-Carly Simon
5. Tomorrow Never Dies-Sheryl Crow

Now, what do you guys think are the WORST Bond songs?

Here are my choices...

1. Die Another Day-Madonna (I don't need to explain this)
2. All Time High-Rita Coolidge (when I first saw "Octopussy", I was so hoping that the song would share the same name as the title)
3. Moonraker-Shirley Bassey (terrible lyrics)
4. License to Kill-Gladys Knight (sounds like elevator music)
5. From Russia With Love-Matt Monroe (just a boring song)

[LexCorp]

Only one song takes the crown for worst ever!

1. Die Another Day-Madonna (I don't need to explain this)

What the frack was this pile of ear pain! I hate it :cmad:

[Mr Jide]

5. From Russia With Love-Matt Monroe (just a boring song)

Die Die Die!!!!:cmad: :cmad: :cmad:

[Mr Jide]

Oh yeah. I forgot to agree with you on that. Altogether, the 60's had the best Bond theme songs.

You cot damn right!:up: :up:

[Mr Jide]

Good choices :up:

Merci :woot:

[Carmine Falcone]

Best Bond song? No contest -- Goldfinger.

[Warhammer]

Now, what do you guys think are the WORST Bond songs?

Here are my choices...

1. Die Another Day-Madonna (I don't need to explain this)
2. All Time High-Rita Coolidge (when I first saw "Octopussy", I was so hoping that the song would share the same name as the title)
3. Moonraker-Shirley Bassey (terrible lyrics)
4. License to Kill-Gladys Knight (sounds like elevator music)
5. From Russia With Love-Matt Monroe (just a boring song)

DAD was pretty bad. You'd think that an icon like Madonna finally doing a Bond song would make for a spectacular song, but we all know how that went. I can't stand "All Time High" from Octopussy. Also, I didn't like TLD's theme song, either. I like Licence To Kill, though. Hey, it's Gladys Knight.

:o

Btw, I am glad that Duran Duran is getting some love. Too bad they aren't doing so well, currently. I love their newest song "Falling Down," though. Even collaborating with Timbo isn't helping them sell.

[BobJM]

I didn't mind Madonna's as much as a lot of you here, but I don't think it was the best.

[Warhammer]

DAD's opening titles were really cool, though. Flashes of Bond getting tortured, with the ice and fire woman. Cool stuff.

[Agentsands77]

DAD's opening titles were really cool, though. Flashes of Bond getting tortured, with the ice and fire woman. Cool stuff.
The visuals were very fascinating indeed. It's really a shame that Madonna's song was so wretched... that same title sequence with a good song would have worked wonders.

The best title song, IMO? "You Only Live Twice." Gorgeous, sweeping melody, lovely orchestrations, and some really wonderful lyrics.

[Drizzle]

Die Die Die!!!!:cmad: :cmad: :cmad:

Sorry, but it was either that or "The Man with the Golden Gun", so I sided with the song I liked least out of the two, even though FRWL is one of the better Bond films.

[Golgo-13]

Best Bond song? No contest -- Goldfinger.

Live and Let Die.



Now, what do you guys think are the WORST Bond songs?

Here are my choices...

1. Die Another Day-Madonna (I don't need to explain this)
2. All Time High-Rita Coolidge (when I first saw "Octopussy", I was so hoping that the song would share the same name as the title)
3. Moonraker-Shirley Bassey (terrible lyrics)
4. License to Kill-Gladys Knight (sounds like elevator music)
5. From Russia With Love-Matt Monroe (just a boring song)

Thee Worst Bond songs?

'The Living Daylights' tops them all imo, followed by 'The Man with the Golden Gun'. In fact all of Connery Bond songs except 'Goldfinger' and 'DAF' sucked.

[Sebastos]

Anyone when Casino Royale will show in Cinemax or HBO?

[Golgo-13]

I've seen it like a billion times on dvd already!

[Warhammer]

I was watching it yesterday as a matter of fact. When you don't one for a while, the Bond films feel almost like the first time you watched them.

[Sebastos]

I've seen it like a billion times on dvd already!

That's awesome. :up:

But I need to find out when it'll be on Cinemax or HBO.

I was watching it yesterday as a matter of fact. When you don't one for a while, the Bond films feel almost like the first time you watched them.

On DVD or Cinemax?

[Warhammer]

DVD. I am 90% sure that it will probably show on HBO/Cinemax, as opposed to Starz/Encore. I am surprised that it isn't on there yet, since the film came a little over one year ago. That's usually when HBO/Cinemax gets their films, a year later. Perhaps, CR will show in January.

Btw, HBO and Cinemax alternate, so whatever comes on one first will be on the second one a month later, then continue to alternate every month or so. I think they are owned by the same company, or are at least affiliated.

[Kahran Ramsus]

Top 5 Bond Songs

1. Nobody Does It Better
2. Live and Let Die
3. Goldfinger
4. Thunderball
5. For Your Eyes Only


Top 5 Worst Songs

1. Die Another Day
2. Moonraker
3. The Living Daylights
4. The Man with the Golden Gun
5. Tomorrow Never Dies (the original song played over the closing credits is much better)

[Sebastos]

DVD. I am 90% sure that it will probably show on HBO/Cinemax, as opposed to Starz/Encore. I am surprised that it isn't on there yet, since the film came a little over one year ago. That's usually when HBO/Cinemax gets their films, a year later. Perhaps, CR will show in January.

Btw, HBO and Cinemax alternate, so whatever comes on one first will be on the second one a month later, then continue to alternate every month or so. I think they are owned by the same company, or are at least affiliated.

That was exactly what I was telling myself. :up:

I know they alternate, I just wanted to know the date it would be shown.

[Catman]

Now, what do you guys think are the WORST Bond songs?

Die Another Day and the Casino Royale one.

The best title song, IMO? "You Only Live Twice." Gorgeous, sweeping melody, lovely orchestrations, and some really wonderful lyrics.

We agree on something! :eek:

[LexCorp]

DAD was the worst Bond film IMO.

[Catman]

DAD was the worst Bond film IMO.

Live and Let Die, The Man With The Golden Gun, Moonraker, and Living Daylights were just as bad.

[LexCorp]

Live and Let Die, The Man With The Golden Gun, Moonraker, and Living Daylights were just as bad.

TMWTGG just as bad no way. Moonraker....maybe.

Nothing was worse than Bond escaping form the ice palace by using a make shift ski board and a parachute...which was all done with crappy effects.

[Catman]

Nothing was worse than Bond escaping form the ice palace by using a make shift ski board and a parachute

Nothing worse than a villain attacking Bond with toys.

[LexCorp]

Nothing worse than a villain attacking Bond with toys.

Nothing worse than Halle Berry....:( as a bond girl.

Monster Ball was her only good film...

[Drizzle]

Live and Let Die, The Man With The Golden Gun, Moonraker, and Living Daylights were just as bad.

All of those were better than "Die Another Day" except for "Moonraker".

[LexCorp]

All of those were better than "Die Another Day" except for "Moonraker".

Moonraker was better due to the fact that it had Jaws.....

[Catman]

Nothing worse than Halle Berry....:( as a bond girl.

Not really. 90 % of the "actresses" that were cast as Bond Girls only got the role because they were hot. Usually talent isn't important when casting Bond girls. Heck...speaking english isn't important. Go back to the `60s, man. Honor Blackman (Pussy Galore) and Diana Rigg (Tracy) were the only Bond Girls who spoke english. All the others were foreign models who had to be dubbed by Nikki Van der Zyl.

All of those were better than "Die Another Day" except for "Moonraker".

Moonraker was better due to the fact that it had Jaws.....

Jaws was one of the few things that worked in Moonraker.

[LexCorp]

Not really. 90 % of the "actresses" that were cast as Bond Girls only got the role because they were hot. Usually talent isn't important when casting Bond girls. Heck...speaking english isn't important. Go back to the `60s, man. Honor Blackman (Pussy Galore) and Diana Rigg (Tracy) were the only Bond Girls who spoke english. All the others were foreign models who had to be dubbed by Nikki Van der Zyl.





Jaws was one of the few things that worked in Moonraker.

Fair point about the girls....I just never forgave her for being a **** first, oscar winner later.

Yes Jaws was fun. Was he a cyborg?

[Warhammer]

DAD was pretty bad, but worst? Hell naw.

[Drizzle]

Jaws was one of the few things that worked in Moonraker.

Jaws worked up until he got that girlfriend. He was awesome in "The Spy Who Loved Me" and the opening scene of "Moonraker", but everything he did on the space station was incredibly cheesy.

I was just watching "For Your Eyes Only" the other night. Bond throwing Blofeld's wheelchair-bound ass down a chimney never gets old. :woot:

[Golgo-13]

I was just watching "For Your Eyes Only" the other night. Bond throwing Blofeld's wheelchair-bound ass down a chimney never gets old. :woot:

"Oh, you wanna get off?" :up:

[chamber-music]

Jaws worked up until he got that girlfriend. He was awesome in "The Spy Who Loved Me" and the opening scene of "Moonraker", but everything he did on the space station was incredibly cheesy.

I was just watching "For Your Eyes Only" the other night. Bond throwing Blofeld's wheelchair-bound ass down a chimney never gets old. :woot:

when he got a girlfriend was lame. I liked when he helped out Happy Gilmore :woot:

[Gold Samurai]

Nothing worse than a villain attacking Bond with toys.

Honestly i've seen all the james bond films but this detail eludes me.

[Catman]

Honestly i've seen all the james bond films but this detail eludes me.

This is how Living Daylights ended.

[Drizzle]

when he got a girlfriend was lame. I liked when he helped out Happy Gilmore :woot:

"And you can count on me waiting for you in the parking lot!"

[LexCorp]

"And you can count on me waiting for you in the parking lot!"

Best line ever!

Shooter McGavern lol

[Gold Samurai]

This is how Living Daylights ended.

oh thats why I didn't get it. I thought of toys like little helicopters etc not the war room with all of whitikers guns and the battle of gettysberg renactment

[The Chairman]

The Living Daylights is one of the best as far as I'm concerned. To put it on level with DAD is an insult. It has a great plot, a good debut by Dalton and some solid action sequences. It's easily leagues ahead of License To Kill (which could've starred Stallone or Ah-nuld and have been the exact same movie).

Moonraker gets too much **** thrown at it as well. It's not among the best, but it's no cornier or OTT than most other Bond movies. It's a very fun and entertaining movie with some great scenes. Also, Drax is among the most vicious of the Bond villians.

[Brian Braddock]

I'm with you on one thing - some Bond films may not be the best but for some folk on here to put them in the same bracket as DADin terms of sickiness is just plain wrong.

That film hit levels of crapdom like to other.

[LexCorp]

The Living Daylights is one of the best as far as I'm concerned. To put it on level with DAD is an insult. It has a great plot, a good debut by Dalton and some solid action sequences. It's easily leagues ahead of License To Kill (which could've starred Stallone or Ah-nuld and have been the exact same movie).

Moonraker gets too much **** thrown at it as well. It's not among the best, but it's no cornier or OTT than most other Bond movies. It's a very fun and entertaining movie with some great scenes. Also, Drax is among the most vicious of the Bond villians.

Nice avy!!

[Golgo-13]

You know everytime i visit this thread, it saddens me. The logic that SHH used to close the Bond forums, was absolutely ridiculous.

There's sssssooooo much in the Bond-verse to discuss. There's about 40 years worth of trivia to discuss;there's no way we can cover what needs to be talked about in one or two threads..it's ridiculous. Of all the Heroes on the Hype that have their own forums, Bond is one of the few, with the exceptions of Batman and a few others, that have been around for a very long time, and is internationally known, yet his forum was killed.

I know this is like beating a dead horse, but still.............. :csad:

[LexCorp]

You know everytime i visit this thread, it saddens me. The logic that SHH used to close the Bond forums, was absolutely ridiculous.

There's sssssooooo much in the Bond-verse to discuss. There's about 40 years worth of trivia to discuss;there's no way we can cover what needs to be talked about in one or two threads..it's ridiculous. Of all the Heroes on the Hype that have their own forums, Bond is one of the few, with the exceptions of Batman and a few others, that have been around for a very long time, and is internationally known, yet his forum was killed.

I know this is like beating a dead horse, but still.............. :csad:

I agree 100% dude. I remember the Bonf Forum.....it's silly.

You know it should still be there. You beat that horse...I'll hold it down. :cwink:

[Golgo-13]

I wonder if there's anyway to petition against the decision...?

[LexCorp]

I wonder if there's anyway to petition against the decision...?

I mean there is still a Sin City forum...untill the movie a few years ago that was not that popular.

As you say...Bond has been around for 40+ years. :csad:

Maybe if we asked very nicely

[The Chairman]

Nice avy!!

Thank you. :woot:

[LexCorp]

Thank you. :woot:

Hey Chairman, would you want the Bond forum back?

[Kevin Roegele]

This is how Living Daylights ended.

The Living Daylights doesn't end with Bond being attacked with toys. LOL.

It ends with Bond and Whitaker in a gun fight amidst Whitaker's war memorobilia. Whitaker does activate some kind of weird toy that fires a real cannon ball at 007, but that's the only instance.

[Warhammer]

I always thought The Living Daylights ended with the truck coming out of the back of the plane. I guess I need to watch it again.

:confused:

[Catman]

The Living Daylights is one of the best as far as I'm concerned. To put it on level with DAD is an insult. It has a great plot, a good debut by Dalton and some solid action sequences.

I never liked Dalton as Bond. He took the role too seriously. And the Bond Girl in that movie was horrible. Jon Don Baker wasn't a memorable villain. The New Moneypenny was even less memorable. The plot and action scenes were okay. I'll give you that.

It's easily leagues ahead of License To Kill (which could've starred Stallone or Ah-nuld and have been the exact same movie).

License to Kill is a good MOVIE, but it's a terrible BOND MOVIE. I'll give you that as well.

Drax is among the most vicious of the Bond villians.

Drax is Stromberg was dark hair and a beard. :dry:

The Living Daylights doesn't end with Bond being attacked with toys. LOL.

It ends with Bond and Whitaker in a gun fight amidst Whitaker's war memorobilia. Whitaker does activate some kind of weird toy that fires a real cannon ball at 007, but that's the only instance.

Either way...I wasn't impressed with the ending.

[Kevin Roegele]

I always thought The Living Daylights ended with the truck coming out of the back of the plane. I guess I need to watch it again.

:confused:

You do. First of all, there is a huge battle on a Russian air base against the Mujahideen. Then the penultimate action scene is Bond and the henchman fighting on a cargo net which is hanging from an aeroplane, while a bomb aboard is ticking down to zero, and Kara is about to fly the plane into a mountain. They escape by ejecting a jeep from the plane just before it explodes. After that Bond infiltrates Whitaker's base, and they have a shoot-out. Bond's PPK is no match for Whitaker's star-of-the-art weapons, but 007 eventually ouwits him.

That's the climax, not Bond fighting some toys. ;)

[Kevin Roegele]

I think of Dalton as the Christopher Nolan Bond. That is, the version you could most believe actually existing.

http://blog.joins.com/usr/f/i/fivecard/7/timothy-dalton.jpg

[Golgo-13]

I think of Dalton as the Christopher Nolan Bond. That is, the version you could most believe actually existing.

http://blog.joins.com/usr/f/i/fivecard/7/timothy-dalton.jpg

I think Craig is moreso from the Nolan-verse than Dalton.

I actually buy Craig being more of what a British spy would look like. real-ex spies/operatives say the biggest asset of any spy is to blend in. To look ordinary. If you see him/her walking down the street, you wouldn't give them a second glance because he looks so average/below average. I know Bond is sopposed to be the hunky guy,and that's part of the mytho but in the real world good looks attract attention, and that could get them killed/compromise. Craig is the least prettiest/handsome of all the Bonds, which is why i say i buy him as a real rough-rugged, ex-military spy, moreso than Dalton. :up:

[Mr Jide]

Good point, although it only highlights just how great early connery was. Sure he was good looking, impeccably dressed (tailored at saville row in London's west end...very upmarket) but you'd look at him and assume he was a banker or something, hence the whole universal exports sharade. However, I love that line in TB where he tells that lady he's somewhat of a licensed trouble shooter....haha...I love it.

[Drizzle]

So I've been setting my sights on buying this:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41%2BbFYu9qDL._SS500_.jpg

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/98/f4/7323e893e7a01a33b0716110.L.jpg

I want it so badly, and I've been looking for which store has the best price on it.

[ChickenScratch]

People's opinions of Dalton always point out one thing to me. If you love his portrayal of Bond (like I do) then you've read the books and know that he's the closest there ever came to who Fleming's man really is. Then there are those who hate him and think he's too serious, angry, cold ... exactly what he is meant to be.

[Bat Bond]

That box set is a joke. If you don't already have the four Ultimate Edition sets (and/or CASINO ROYALE), it's a decent purchase. But look how lazy it is? All they did was take the four original sets and the original CASINO ROYALE DVD and throw it into a box.

I saw somewhere that a major electronics store (Best Buy, maybe?) was selling the Ultimate Edition sets for something like $18 on Black Friday. That's a helluva deal.

[Agentsands77]

If you love his portrayal of Bond (like I do) then you've read the books and know that he's the closest there ever came to who Fleming's man really is.
In some respects, he's the closest to Fleming. Not in all of them.

He's always a bit too tense for Fleming's Bond, I feel, who would get intense when the moment required it, but also had a relaxed sense of charm about him. And in his interactions with women, Dalton's Bond was often way off the mark.

[Drizzle]

That box set is a joke. If you don't already have the four Ultimate Edition sets (and/or CASINO ROYALE), it's a decent purchase.

That's the thing. I don't own any of the Bond films (except for a DVD of Goldeneye that I got a few years ago), so it'd be a good purchase for me.

[ChickenScratch]

In some respects, he's the closest to Fleming. Not in all of them.

He's always a bit too tense for Fleming's Bond, I feel, who would get intense when the moment required it, but also had a relaxed sense of charm about him. And in his interactions with women, Dalton's Bond was often way off the mark.


Too tense? What are you talking about? There's one relaxed bit in both his movies, at M16 and he's pretty relaxed hanging out on Moneypenny's desk having a smoke. His two movies were marked with pretty much a chase from start to finish in TLD and getting revenge for Felix in LTK.

He was not tense, he treated the situations with the right amount of gravity.

[Catman]

Craig is the least prettiest/handsome of all the Bonds, which is why i say i buy him as a real rough-rugged, ex-military spy, moreso than Dalton. :up:

Dalton wasn't really that good looking either. ESPECIALLY if you compare him to Connery and Brosnan. Heck...even Roger Moore was a decent looking guy.

If you love his portrayal of Bond (like I do) then you've read the books and know that he's the closest there ever came to who Fleming's man really is. Then there are those who hate him and think he's too serious, angry, cold ... exactly what he is meant to be.

Only if you take the books too seriously. Bond has always been male fantasy. If you play Bond you have to accept that and have fun with it. Thats what made Connery so great. He took the role seriously (atleast in the first three) but had fun with it. And Fleming was still alive when Dr. No and From Russia With Love was released. He LOVED Connery's performance. He loved it so much that he made Bond half-Scottish. So if Fleming loved what Connery did then he was spot on.

And in his interactions with women, Dalton's Bond was often way off the mark.

lol. so true...

[Bat Bond]

In some respects, he's the closest to Fleming. Not in all of them.

He's always a bit too tense for Fleming's Bond, I feel, who would get intense when the moment required it, but also had a relaxed sense of charm about him. And in his interactions with women, Dalton's Bond was often way off the mark.
I have to imagine this is harmsway posting. Who else would be plugging SWEENEY TODD in their sig? :cwink:

As for Dalton, it hurts me to see the amount of depreciation that he receives from the masses (not necessarily the fans).

Personally I loved his Bond films. Dalton's two outings are among my favorites. However, had he been able to feature in more Bonds that were tone-wise somewhere between THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS and LICENSE TO KILL I think he would've caught on much more with the public and ultimately produced some high-quality (not saying two weren't high quality, of course), more generally accepted films.

That's the thing. I don't own any of the Bond films (except for a DVD of Goldeneye that I got a few years ago), so it'd be a good purchase for me.
Go for it then. I'm sure the price is better than buying the four sets plus CASINO ROYALE separately.

[Catman]

had he been able to feature in more Bonds that were tone-wise somewhere between THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS and LICENSE TO KILL I think he would've caught on much more with the public and ultimately produced some high-quality (not saying two weren't high quality, of course), more generally accepted films.

Agreed. Dalton appeared in two movies of a series that features 21 and counting. He didn't really do anything to make himself stand out. Atleast George Lazenby ended his movie crying with his dead wife in his arms. Dalton is just the guy who battled drug dealers in Colombia.

[LexCorp]

Was there a scene with Dalton escaping on a musical case down an ice slope.

[Catman]

Was there a scene with Dalton escaping on a musical case down an ice slope.

Yes.

[LexCorp]

Yes.

Right....that was what I thought. Didn't like that.

[ChickenScratch]

Agreed. Dalton appeared in two movies of a series that features 21 and counting. He didn't really do anything to make himself stand out. Atleast George Lazenby ended his movie crying with his dead wife in his arms. Dalton is just the guy who battled drug dealers in Colombia.

You're complaning that Lazenby cried at the end of his movie? Dude, his wife just got shot and he did cry at that moment in the book. But then you just said the books were not serious, just male fantasy. It was actual very realistic in it's emotional tone and what the character goes through.

[Gold Samurai]

You're complaning that Lazenby cried at the end of his movie? Dude, his wife just got shot and he did cry at that moment in the book. But then you just said the books were not serious, just male fantasy. It was actual very realistic in it's emotional tone and what the character goes through.

seriously what did some expect bond to say?

"the ***** is dead" ?

[LexCorp]

You're complaning that Lazenby cried at the end of his movie? Dude, his wife just got shot and he did cry at that moment in the book. But then you just said the books were not serious, just male fantasy. It was actual very realistic in it's emotional tone and what the character goes through.

I liked that movie.....

[StrainedEyes]

You're complaning that Lazenby cried at the end of his movie? Dude, his wife just got shot and he did cry at that moment in the book. But then you just said the books were not serious, just male fantasy. It was actual very realistic in it's emotional tone and what the character goes through.

No... He specifically said that Lazenby's Bond stands out because of the emotional ending.

[ChickenScratch]

Well, for a movie yes it did have an emotional ending. Frankly, many of the books endings are tragic, Vesper's suicide in Casino Royal, loosing the girl to her fiance in Moonraker, Tracy's Death, Felix being eaten in LALD (which didn't show up in the movies till LTK), Bond being killed at the end of FRWL (ending changed to him surviving the poisoning after Fleming was talking into continuing the series) etc. Fact is, Bond is a way more tragic character than the movies portray him as. In fact, the go to great lengths to remove most of those scenes. Why change Vesper's suicide to her drowning in an elevator, why does he always get the girl when in many cases she dies or he looses her. He's a way more tragic character than the movies lead you to believe, I understand it's a downer to have the hero treated badly, still I think Dalton brought across the character with all his tragedies and losses up to that point.

[LexCorp]

I had no idea they ever though of killing bond. :wow:

[ChickenScratch]

Thought of killing him? Casino Royal was written as a one shot, LALD was written with a completely new character and when CR was successful Fleming went back and changed the character's name to Bond. In FRWL Bond shows up half way thru the book, it's more about the bad guys, at the end he's shot with a poisoned dart and dies because Fleming had had enough of the series. He's Brought back by M16 doctors and the next book opens when he's in recovery. TSWLM is about a girl who lives in Canada, Bond shows up because he saves her life towards the middle, it's written from her perspective and Bond's barely there.

[Kevin Roegele]

Thought of killing him? Casino Royal was written as a one shot, LALD was written with a completely new character and when CR was successful Fleming went back and changed the character's name to Bond. In FRWL Bond shows up half way thru the book, it's more about the bad guys, at the end he's shot with a poisoned dart and dies because Fleming had had enough of the series. He's Brought back by M16 doctors and the next book opens when he's in recovery. TSWLM is about a girl who lives in Canada, Bond shows up because he saves her life towards the middle, it's written from her perspective and Bond's barely there.

Same happened with Sherlock Holmes. Conan Doyle grew weary of the character and killed him, but public demand bought him back.

[Catman]

You're complaning that Lazenby cried at the end of his movie?

um. . . :huh:

No... He specifically said that Lazenby's Bond stands out because of the emotional ending.

Exactly :yay:

TSWLM is about a girl who lives in Canada, Bond shows up because he saves her life towards the middle, it's written from her perspective and Bond's barely there.

Fleming later regretted writing that book. Hence why he ONLY gave the rights to the title. lol.

[Mr.E.Nygma]

You're complaning that Lazenby cried at the end of his movie? Dude, his wife just got shot and he did cry at that moment in the book. But then you just said the books were not serious, just male fantasy. It was actual very realistic in it's emotional tone and what the character goes through.I don't know why he complained for this, it was actually the best part. Lazenby's best moment in the film to say. Other than that, I'm glad Lazenby didn't come back...

[Mr.E.Nygma]

Fleming later regretted writing that book. Hence why he ONLY gave the rights to the title. lol.This clarifies a lot of things...do you think Fleming would do the reversal with Moonraker (regretting giving rights to the title and all for that film to be so campy)? LOL!!!

[ChickenScratch]

FRWL was a good book, just different though the story would never have worked for a movie. For Moonraker, damn I wish they made the movie based on the book! Not only does Bond get pretty busted up in it, but he doesn't get the girl and we get to see a side of the character that they never show in the movies, Bond's drug use ... anything to stay sharp on the mission. Though the drug use comes up in a couple places in other books, MR is the first and best example since he asks for it, has it sent to him and then does it at the club before he plays cards with Drax.

[LexCorp]

Same happened with Sherlock Holmes. Conan Doyle grew weary of the character and killed him, but public demand bought him back.

Sounds like every modern TV drama. Main characters "die" only to be brought back in some way beacuse of the demand for the character.

[Mr Jide]

*cough* Dirty Den Watts *coughs*

[LexCorp]

*cough* Dirty Den Watts *coughs*

Was that the Eastenders character? Oh how that was a waste of time.

[st barbara]

You know everytime i visit this thread, it saddens me. The logic that SHH used to close the Bond forums, was absolutely ridiculous.

There's sssssooooo much in the Bond-verse to discuss. There's about 40 years worth of trivia to discuss;there's no way we can cover what needs to be talked about in one or two threads..it's ridiculous. Of all the Heroes on the Hype that have their own forums, Bond is one of the few, with the exceptions of Batman and a few others, that have been around for a very long time, and is internationally known, yet his forum was killed.

I know this is like beating a dead horse, but still.............. :csad: I haven't visited these fora for a while but I DID notice that the Bond forum had disappeared.. Darn ! I just recently got two books on Bond ("James Bond : The Authorised Biography" by John Pearson and "James Bond In The 21st Century" Edited by Glenn Yeffeth) that I wanted to talk about !

[LexCorp]

I haven't visited these fora for a while but I DID notice that the Bond forum had disappeared.. Darn ! I just recently got two books on Bond ("James Bond : The Authorised Biography" by John Pearson and "James Bond In The 21st Century" Edited by Glenn Yeffeth) that I wanted to talk about !

James Bond in the 21st century.....interesting

[ChickenScratch]

I don't miss it much, I post over at Commander Bond. They have discussions of all the books, authors, movies, actors, etc. Plus best of all, it's a Bond community so most have read the books and are not just movie fans who don't understand the depth of the character. Like those people who consider themselves Batman fans because they've seen the movies. Besides, there are less nerd on nerd discussion of unimportant minutia. http://debrief.commanderbond.net/

[ChickenScratch]

I haven't visited these fora for a while but I DID notice that the Bond forum had disappeared.. Darn ! I just recently got two books on Bond ("James Bond : The Authorised Biography" by John Pearson and "James Bond In The 21st Century" Edited by Glenn Yeffeth) that I wanted to talk about !

OOO! The Pearson book is so cool. Another book I'm digging is John Griswold's "Ian Fleming's James Bond: Annotations and Chronologies for Ian Fleming's Bond Stories." It acts as a companion to the Fleming novels, getting into detail of what's going on, where and when. My favorite part is a stroke by stroke breakdown of the Goldfinger golf game complete with scores, diagrams of the cource and where the ball lands, etc. Also, a hand by hand breakdown of the CR and MR cardgames and how much money who won and when on what hand. It's so in detail it's crazy.

[LexCorp]

I don't miss it much, I post over at Commander Bond. They have discussions of all the books, authors, movies, actors, etc. Plus best of all, it's a Bond community so most have read the books and are not just movie fans who don't understand the depth of the character. Like those people who consider themselves Batman fans because they've seen the movies. Besides, there are less nerd on nerd discussion of unimportant minutia. http://debrief.commanderbond.net/

May have to take a look

[ChickenScratch]

Say hello if you do, I post as "Omar B" over there. Also, beware, there's a crtain level of snobbery that exists since over there we've all read all the books, by Fleming, Amis, Gardner, Benson, Higson, Westbrook and in about a year Faulks.

[LexCorp]

Say hello if you do, I post as "Omar B" over there. Also, beware, there's a crtain level of snobbery that exists since over there we've all read all the books, by Fleming, Amis, Gardner, Benson, Higson, Westbrook and in about a year Faulks.

You see that is where the Hype will miss points as we need a Bond forum back. :(

We have a celeb one but not a Bond one.

[Mr Jide]

Was that the Eastenders character? Oh how that was a waste of time.

Indeed.