View Full Version : Which Mask for Cobra Commander
gkokujin
11-21-2007, 10:34 AM
In light of the new movie news, which do you think they should go with and why?
Darthkush
11-21-2007, 01:04 PM
Going with the Hood. I love the faceplate but I don't think it would be taken as seriously. Now if they can find some non-cheesy way to use both, i'd be all for that though.
ChickenScratch
11-21-2007, 01:15 PM
The Blue Hood would work fine.
Reflective faceplate, with the uniform he would wear if he were wearing the hood.
Superman_
11-21-2007, 02:06 PM
http://library.galciv2.com/mvlib/ss/Fullview_COBRA_COMMANDER.png
nuff said
DarkSuperman
11-21-2007, 02:14 PM
http://library.galciv2.com/mvlib/ss/Fullview_COBRA_COMMANDER.png
nuff said
I concur with my better half, Classics never go out of style. Mua Hahaha!
Hypestyle
11-21-2007, 02:31 PM
use both.. in battle he can wear the face plate.. otherwise, just have the mask.. I think they'll have to go with an unknown or a moderate-known, since any "superstar" is going to want to show their face..
My dream pick: Willem Dafoe
Timstuff
11-21-2007, 02:36 PM
Both. Blue hood in most non-dangerous situations, and reflective helmet during a combat scene.
shapeshifter
11-21-2007, 04:18 PM
I like both. The reflective face is creepy, and makes you wonder just how the hell he can see in that thing, and the hood/shroud is just cool.
I hope they can get someone like Hugo Weaving to play him.
Jochimus
11-21-2007, 08:23 PM
I hope they can get someone like Hugo Weaving to play him.
I dunno, I have a hard time seeing someone as ingrained at playing competent characters as Weaving is portray a relative schmuck like Cobra Commander.
On topic, I vote the hood. They tried doing the 'combined helmet/hood' thing in Sigma 6, and the result looked didn't look that good, IMO. As nice as the helmet/faceplate is, it's too Vaderesque.
shapeshifter
11-21-2007, 08:42 PM
I dunno, I have a hard time seeing someone as ingrained at playing competent characters as Weaving is portray a relative schmuck like Cobra Commander.
On topic, I vote the hood. They tried doing the 'combined helmet/hood' thing in Sigma 6, and the result looked didn't look that good, IMO. As nice as the helmet/faceplate is, it's too Vaderesque.
in the comic he is not a schmuck. He's a competent and ruthless leader. In the show, yeah he is a complete dufus. I'm hoping they base him more on the comic version. He had a better origin that way too.
Arkady Rossovich
11-21-2007, 08:55 PM
The blue hood.
Majik1387
11-21-2007, 09:01 PM
Both, and have Gary Oldman play him.:up:
bullets
11-21-2007, 10:23 PM
i dont think we will be seeing a blue hood but they should go with it .
The Shredder
11-21-2007, 11:08 PM
use both.. in battle he can wear the face plate.. otherwise, just have the mask.. I think they'll have to go with an unknown or a moderate-known, since any "superstar" is going to want to show their face..
My dream pick: Willem Dafoe
Exactly.
mjdiddy1
11-21-2007, 11:27 PM
He needs both. The hood would be fitting for a sinister effect making him a realistic character but a battle send would call for the faceplate. They could spruce the helmet a little but too much to keep to the original charcter
TheVileOne
11-21-2007, 11:32 PM
My favorite is the face plate, my second favorite it he armored mask.
And yes he's used both in the comics. Some issues he'll switch to the hood, some the reflective mask. Even under his face plate helmet he wears another hood or mask.
tamron
11-22-2007, 12:30 AM
I'd hope that they allow him to use both. The battle mask is too cool not to be used, but you've got to have the hood as well, it's classic.
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/2862/cobracommander2zw2.jpg
Whiskey Tango
11-22-2007, 12:38 AM
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f275/blackestofblueskies/cobracommanderreloaded.jpg
TheVileOne
11-22-2007, 01:22 AM
Yes, he could wear the hood through some scenes, and in the action sequences he could put on the face plate helmet/mask. Or when he's commanding the troops.
One thing I have to ask. What are the odds of CC actually being called Cobra Commander in the movie?
These movies have a way of downplaying these types of names. Save for the Transformers, the autobots and decepticons did have their names.
Venom
11-22-2007, 05:47 AM
They could call him "The Commander" during spoken dialogue. Cobra Commander can be his official title.
November Rain
11-22-2007, 05:54 AM
he should wear each and every style and not have a single definitive looks
3dman27
11-22-2007, 07:16 AM
http://library.galciv2.com/mvlib/ss/Fullview_COBRA_COMMANDER.png
nuff said
BINGO
November Rain
11-22-2007, 09:12 AM
http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/2609067.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1934A2752006EF5F0ED3B9E361AEF545382 5A5397277B4DC33E
3dman27
11-22-2007, 12:31 PM
no pic november
Chris B
11-22-2007, 03:20 PM
I've always prefered the battle mask, but I wouldn't mind seeing him use both.
Kent Allard
11-22-2007, 05:29 PM
I see no reason not to use both the hood and the helmet. Just like others have already said - use the hood when Cobra Commander is busing scheming in hidden bases and switch out for the helmet with mirrored face plate when on the battlefield.
ANTOINE X
11-22-2007, 06:06 PM
I see no reason not to use both the hood and the helmet. Just like others have already said - use the hood when Cobra Commander is busing scheming in hidden bases and switch out for the helmet with mirrored face plate when on the battlefield.
Agree.
Whiskey Tango
11-22-2007, 08:10 PM
I don't mind the helmet, I just posted the hood pic because I think it looks badass^^
Whatever they do, I hope they don't show us his face. Even if he goes into civvy mode with a baseball cap I'd like his face to stay shadowed.
And now I can't get Gary Oldman out of my head. That would be beyond awesome.
Majik1387
11-22-2007, 08:55 PM
That's because Oldman is best for the role.:o:up::cwink:
shapeshifter
11-23-2007, 04:40 PM
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f275/blackestofblueskies/cobracommanderreloaded.jpg
wow thats badass.
I hope he does not have the CobraLa origin like in the show. It really would detract from the credibility of the film I think. He was so much better in the comics as a megalomaniac
They could call him "The Commander" during spoken dialogue. Cobra Commander can be his official title.
It's not a name perse, but a title. He's 'The Cobra Commander'. As you said, you could refer to him as 'The Commander', or just 'Commander' or his full title.
His name shouldnt be a problem in the least.
The Question
11-25-2007, 12:40 PM
I'd go with the hood. Not saying he should be a white supremacist or anything, but the hood reminds me a lot of the KKK, which helps reinforce his image as an underground political radical.
TheVileOne
11-25-2007, 02:47 PM
If anyone can grab a picture of it, in SIGMA 6, Cobra Commander wore a combination. He wore a helmet over his cloth hood.
Whiskey Tango
11-25-2007, 02:59 PM
Little too much Lord Zoltron, or whatever.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f275/blackestofblueskies/sigma6cc.jpg
Jamie Madrox
11-28-2007, 03:52 PM
I want them to use both. One isn't good enough for me.
ANTOINE X
11-30-2007, 12:16 PM
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f275/blackestofblueskies/cobracommanderreloaded.jpg
Definitely like this outfit! that would be great if he can wear that.
Philly Phanboy
11-30-2007, 02:16 PM
It has to be the faceplate.
The hood only works in the comics but looks really dumb in practice. Case in point this fan made video.
mPP-xYkchD4
ChickenScratch
11-30-2007, 04:41 PM
As much as I would love to see the Sigma 6 type mask/helmet and suit it would serve the movie better to make his suit more reality based. I think he should look like one of those crazies who dress in military or pseudo-military garb.
shapeshifter
12-01-2007, 10:05 AM
It has to be the faceplate.
The hood only works in the comics but looks really dumb in practice. Case in point this fan made video.
mPP-xYkchD4
well i think with a better budget and a decent tailor that outfit could work.
that fan vid was underfunded, and like all fan vids kind of on the silly side.
ANTOINE X
12-01-2007, 01:21 PM
well i think with a better budget and a decent tailor that outfit could work.
that fan vid was underfunded, and like all fan vids kind of on the silly side.
I agree with shapeshifter dont forget that with better artist and designer better light and camera effect and of course better music you can change the movie from silly to serious!
Philly Phanboy
12-01-2007, 10:04 PM
well i think with a better budget and a decent tailor that outfit could work.
that fan vid was underfunded, and like all fan vids kind of on the silly side.
The hood looks bad on a real person and there's not a whole lot a tailor could do to redesign a piece of cloth with two eyeholes. :word:
The hood looks bad on a real person and there's not a whole lot a tailor could do to redesign a piece of cloth with two eyeholes. :word:
I think the hood could work - you just have to go the spider-man route and design the hood to give him the classic comic 'shape' of the face beneath.
As to which mask - as many have already said - stick to the comics and their explanation: When he's just hanging around the Cobra base it's the hood. When he's personally overseeing a battle, the helmet/faceplate.
Nighthawk_Fan
12-02-2007, 10:16 AM
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f275/blackestofblueskies/cobracommanderreloaded.jpg
Man, I hope he looks something like this. I say the hood.
eXperiment
12-02-2007, 01:20 PM
Blue hood!!!! :D
Radford
12-03-2007, 07:42 AM
both.
hes always been, in my eyes, somewhat vanity-concerned.
there have been some great movie villains with mask collections (though im totally drawing a blank on names), CC could totally have more than 1 outfit in the movie.
Nivek
12-05-2007, 10:53 PM
The hood, but both. Use the Hemet as a true battle Helmet.
CorpusBlack
12-07-2007, 03:49 PM
I say use both. The hood for the most part and the face plate for battles.
nocomics
12-07-2007, 06:58 PM
I'd say both,but not sure how these would look on the big screen. I would almost find these a little on the dorky side,but it would depend on how they tinker with it. Thats right I'd say tinker with it,make some adjustments to it, make it work on big screen(darker colors,right type of materials etc..). Its all hit or miss,but /shrug.
Oerwinde
12-07-2007, 07:38 PM
http://www.energonreactor.com/Pictures/GIJoeCRpg24.jpg
This could work in a movie.
mr. peasant
12-07-2007, 08:03 PM
Only problem with that is too many balaclavas. As you can see in your example, this makes Cobra Commander almost indistinguishable from Firefly aside from the obvious color difference.
Oerwinde
12-07-2007, 08:20 PM
True, and then if they have Beach-head its balaclava overload. They could make the cloth hood work, but it wouldn't be just a cloth hood. They would have to do a Daredevil style molded upper face, with the hood hanging below. Which if it looks right, I wouldn't mind.
I say use both. The hood for the most part and the face plate for battles.
I think that's exactly how it is going to be.
LastSunrise1981
12-08-2007, 02:20 AM
I just hope they don't get all sci-fi/alienish with Cobra Commander like they did with the animated film.
Artistsean
12-08-2007, 04:42 AM
I say go with the Baron Zemo hood.
Its the easiest, most transferable to the real world, and it makes him look like a terrorist.
I'd like to see the classic Zemoesque mask in live action.
mr. peasant
12-08-2007, 04:57 AM
True, and then if they have Beach-head its balaclava overload. They could make the cloth hood work, but it wouldn't be just a cloth hood. They would have to do a Daredevil style molded upper face, with the hood hanging below. Which if it looks right, I wouldn't mind.
Alternatively, they can use the half-mask as a mold and stitch the cloth hood directly over it so that the top part follows the person's head more closely before tapering down below the nose.
Ironfan72
12-08-2007, 02:41 PM
Was never really a fan of the blue hood, give me the battle Helmet any day,
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g122/ironfan72/photo-out-r40-s1-4915387_60327_1174.gif
Oerwinde
12-09-2007, 12:57 AM
Alternatively, they can use the half-mask as a mold and stitch the cloth hood directly over it so that the top part follows the person's head more closely before tapering down below the nose.
Thats what I was thinking, but it didn't come across right.
Timstuff
12-09-2007, 11:33 AM
It has to be the faceplate.
The hood only works in the comics but looks really dumb in practice. Case in point this fan made video.
mPP-xYkchD4
How come all the Baroness parts of that video seemed like they were from a porno?
shapeshifter
12-09-2007, 11:55 AM
I still wonder how he can see through the battle hood.
Timstuff
12-09-2007, 12:32 PM
Holes.
Bubonic
12-09-2007, 04:47 PM
If they saved us from a Spiderman that looked like this;
http://strangeink.files.wordpress.com/2006/06/japanspiderman2.jpg
Then we can rest assured that they could make the hood look just as fantastic and menacing as they did in the comics.
You can't possibly predict what it could look like from a very low budget fan short. It will be the difference between 1970's T.V. Spidey and the Spidey we have today.
I'd also like them to include the battle helmet as well, and everyone will be happy. :woot:
I still wonder how he can see through the battle hood.
A two-way mirror kinda thing, I would think.
Though I remember in one of the comics they showed him taking it off and the inside was lined with all sorts of circuitry and stuff so who knows, really.
xisaacx
12-10-2007, 12:02 AM
hood
I say give him Fetts helmet!
Brian Braddock
12-12-2007, 10:27 AM
I voted for the faceplate but, hell, I still I remember a time when Cobra Commander used to go by the name of Baron Ironblood and wore a bucket on his head.
Raiden
12-21-2007, 12:40 AM
Both.
Kanon
12-21-2007, 08:15 AM
I don't think they will use both looks... It may confuse some people...
Rogles
12-21-2007, 04:10 PM
Did people get confused when Kroenen went through 3 different masks in the movie Hellboy? As long as you show him switching his helmet/mask (from behind or something), it should be easy to follow. If people still can't follow that, then screw 'em I say. No need to cater to idiots.
DOG LIPS
12-22-2007, 10:35 AM
I agree that he could use them all in the course of the movie. Sitting in his chair, wearing the hood, fighting in the faceplate, etc etc etc.
But I think the hood in a thin blue or black leather with the red Cobra sign would be cool. But I'm partial to reflective faceplate.
Speedball
12-22-2007, 02:11 PM
Go with the hood first, then the faceplate later on.
Heretic
12-22-2007, 02:58 PM
I'm all about the hood. Im hoping that Cobra Commander himself doesnt actually involve himself with any battles...to me a terrorist leader commands from afar and is not in any real danger himself. You dont see Osama strapping on a suicide bomb.
DOG LIPS
12-22-2007, 03:07 PM
I'm all about the hood. Im hoping that Cobra Commander himself doesnt actually involve himself with any battles...to me a terrorist leader commands from afar and is not in any real danger himself. You dont see Osama strapping on a suicide bomb.
Not necessarily to battle, but he could wear the hood when sitting in his chair/private throne, then wear the mask if he walks around the base in "public".
Heretic
12-22-2007, 03:14 PM
Not necessarily to battle, but he could wear the hood when sitting in his chair/private throne, then wear the mask if he walks around the base in "public".
I dont know, I guess I can see your point.
You know how Marines have their dress outfits, and then their battle fatigues or whatever (Im clearly no military genius)? It could be something like that...but I dont know. The hood just screams "leader" to me. Like, if he had rants on videotape (like Osama) then I definitely see the hood being what a person would use. In fact, its much more...geez...antichrist-like...if that makes any sense. I think the hood would scare the populace more, and then when you go into battle you wear the helmet (to be more precise, CC is paranoid, and would almost always wear the battle helmet UNDER the cloth...maybe...Im just thinking while typing)
The Techno Bat
01-09-2008, 01:38 PM
http://library.galciv2.com/mvlib/ss/Fullview_COBRA_COMMANDER.png
nuff said
Ditto!
Golgo-13
01-30-2008, 07:19 PM
I love the blue hood, but i doubt it'll translate to the big screen very well.
The faceplate.
SuGarRush
01-31-2008, 02:41 PM
We've already got Destro wearing a shiny metal mask, two of the villains doing it would just confuse the masses.
Gotta go with the Hood.
Raiden
01-31-2008, 03:03 PM
I think CC should be in the hood most of the time, but I also want to see him with the reflective mask because it's so badass-looking. I want to see both in the movie.
That-Guy
01-31-2008, 04:22 PM
I like both the hood and the faceplate, and I'd like to see them alternate between the two, but if I had to pick just one then I'd go with the hood. It just looks more intimidating.
Golgo-13
01-31-2008, 06:51 PM
I love the hood too guys, but i think in live action it will just look ridiculous....
DarthRekal
02-02-2008, 02:17 PM
http://library.galciv2.com/mvlib/ss/Fullview_COBRA_COMMANDER.png
nuff said
zakly:woot:
deathshead2
02-02-2008, 02:22 PM
I always liked the skymask he wore in reloaded.
Octoberist
02-03-2008, 12:30 PM
I've always loved the reflective faceplate the most.
It would be great if he had that and the cloak, depending on the scene.
Mal'Akai
02-03-2008, 01:29 PM
What? No love for this version???
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n237/mkrolfe/cobracommander3.jpg
:oldrazz:
You need to slightly modify CC's look so that it would translate well on screen.
They need to lose the bright royal blue and replace it with either a dark navy blue, Or black.
Personally, I think CC would look cool in black with the red Cobra insignia.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/ba/Cobra_commander.jpg
TheLongestDay
02-03-2008, 06:21 PM
its probably already been brought up but in the recent comics it was revealed that cobra commander wears the two way mirror/reflective helmet so that when he speaks to people they see themselves staring back
its a psychological/headgames type thing.
another thing to note,with these "REX" rumours and Joseph gordon levitt possibly being cast it seems they are going with the recent comic version where he is a young good looking man who uses his charisma and intelligence to dominate people and play them off against each other (in a very emperor palpatine way)
terry78
02-04-2008, 09:42 PM
First and foremost, how goofy it looks isn't a concern. Cobra Commander is a nutball despot. Guys like that in real life would be eccentric enough to wear some weird clothing.
Lazlo Panaflex
02-04-2008, 10:19 PM
Both are fine, the hood for when you can see the Commander's piercing blue eyes and the face plate for when who can see the reflection of Duke's piercing blue eyes.
Đeadpool
02-23-2008, 01:32 PM
the reflective face plate
The Avatar
02-23-2008, 02:22 PM
This poster for the upcoming movie 'Brave New World: Ravaged Planet' reminded me a lot of CC's blue hood.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y53/Bathrat/l_0295d0ffac0a1744e89a764a1ca020a5.jpg
Doctor Doom
01-27-2009, 04:08 PM
I vote for the faceplate.
I love chrome.
terry78
01-27-2009, 05:55 PM
I always wondered how the **** he saw out of that thing.
Doctor Doom
01-27-2009, 06:04 PM
Somethings just require belief.
Someone could say the same thing about movie Spider-man's eyes, but he saw out of them.
ANTOINE X
01-27-2009, 06:05 PM
I want Both.
This version is cool to.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/news/captain-america/GI%20Joe%20-%20Cobra%20Commander.jpg
ANTOINE X
01-27-2009, 06:08 PM
What? No love for this version???
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n237/mkrolfe/cobracommander3.jpg
:oldrazz:
I think it s nice. One thing that was cool in Gijoe is the costumes.
This one you wont see it before GIJOE2 or 3
The Avatar
01-27-2009, 06:14 PM
I want Both.
This version is cool to.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/news/captain-america/GI%20Joe%20-%20Cobra%20Commander.jpg that is my favorite version of Cobra Commander. This is the best possible way that the movie can translate the character imo.
Jamie Madrox
01-28-2009, 08:27 PM
Yeah, that is cool. The problem is, the studios/filmmakers have to ask, would someone in real life actually wear something like that? Terrorists these days wear rags over their heads, and long robes.
Personally, I'd go with a silver-ish Military, biohazard gas mask type helmet or something. I don't know.
Octoberist
01-28-2009, 08:48 PM
These are a super fantasy group vs super villains, so I don't think Paramount is thinking about the Taliban or whomever.
terry78
01-28-2009, 09:49 PM
These are a super fantasy group vs super villains, so I don't think Paramount is thinking about the Taliban or whomever.
This movie will have to be in the same world those movies where people accept dudes dressed as bats, in iron suits, and tight-ass lycra spider motif.
I said just chalk up Cobra Commander's costume to him being a lunatic. If someone who was a terrorist in real life wore that, we'd immediately think he was nuts but no less dangerous.
ANTOINE X
01-29-2009, 12:57 AM
I`d say they do it in the future and not exactly in our day. They modify the battle ground a bit like Gotham city. This way it wont look awkward or something.
DOG LIPS
01-29-2009, 12:59 AM
I'm actually thinking CC will look like a Range Viper for some reason.
I hope they hand out the blue hood with tickets so after the film I can use it to erotic asphyxiat myself. :csad:
Peyton Westlake
03-16-2009, 11:27 PM
The hood. If its done right, with piercing eyes from behind it.......it gives you chills, almost like a horror movie killer in the scenes he will be in.
Doctor Doom
03-16-2009, 11:33 PM
People with bags on their head aren't very scary to me. Most of the time it seems more silly than threatening, but that's just me being in a clean cut environment.
Peyton Westlake
03-17-2009, 12:02 AM
I disagree. Its partly because I have the image of Jason from Friday the 13th Part 2 stuck in my head of him wearing the potato sack and 1 blue eye showing........really friggin' freaky for me.
Doctor Doom
03-17-2009, 12:07 AM
I was thinking the same thing, actually. :oldrazz:
Peyton Westlake
03-17-2009, 01:06 PM
Guess i still have nightmares from my youth.
THIS is what Cobra Commander SHOULD have looked like
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1520/2698420738c8b47102feo.jpg
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1364/sideshowcobracommander.jpg
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9135/cobracommander1.jpg
Doctor Doom
03-17-2009, 02:27 PM
If he had a hood the stuck to his face, and didn't movie around a lot, a la movie magic, and he has scary eyes, I would not be disappointed at all, despite my biased toward the mirror plate.
Croc-kett
03-17-2009, 06:45 PM
THIS is what Cobra Commander SHOULD have looked like
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9135/cobracommander1.jpg
Totally man, the costume have these realistic terrorist vibe to it, and it does that without looking silly, *cough* *cough* looking at the movie version costume *cough*.
Yet what they use, they claim is "realistic".....ugh.
Peyton Westlake
03-18-2009, 10:35 PM
THIS is what Cobra Commander SHOULD have looked like
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1520/2698420738c8b47102feo.jpg
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1364/sideshowcobracommander.jpg
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9135/cobracommander1.jpg
The close up of those eyes under the hood is frightening.
tamron
03-19-2009, 12:55 AM
That figure really shows why the design works. Simple, maybe, but effective.
The close up of those eyes under the hood is frightening.
I know, eh? I think it makes him look a thousand times more evil then a fishbowl or big blue monocle..That look I posted is exactly like how I would have done it. Shame...CC could have been one of the best onscreen villains..:csad:
That figure really shows why the design works. Simple, maybe, but effective.
Speaking of which, everyone in this film is wearing friggin' black! This leaves the general public (and myself, an actual Joe FAN) to scratch heads and ask..."Who are the bad guys?"
HHHDan
03-19-2009, 05:35 PM
My personal preference would be for the face plate as it hides everything and creates a mystery as to who or what hides behind it (Man? Robot? Alien? Mutant? Disfigured individual? Etc.). Whenever you leave something open to any interpretation on the part of the audience, they tend to superimpose their own greatest fears upon the character and mold it to what they would like it to be; which I find to be an extremely effective tool to use.
Unfortunately, there seems to be, at least in Hollywood, an unwritten law that says that you must not hide the faces of your actors, other the emotions do not come through (Which I think is hogwash! A great actor can work with any handicap; even not having facial cues to send to the audience); so I fully expect the Blue Hood to be mostly used (Though I will keep hope that the face plate will make a couple of appearances)
Doctor Doom
03-19-2009, 05:47 PM
My personal preference would be for the face plate as it hides everything and creates a mystery as to who or what hides behind it (Man? Robot? Alien? Mutant? Disfigured individual? Etc.). Whenever you leave something open to any interpretation on the part of the audience, they tend to superimpose their own greatest fears upon the character and mold it to what they would like it to be; which I find to be an extremely effective tool to use.
Unfortunately, there seems to be, at least in Hollywood, an unwritten law that says that you must not hide the faces of your actors, other the emotions do not come through (Which I think is hogwash! A great actor can work with any handicap; even not having facial cues to send to the audience); so I fully expect the Blue Hood to be mostly used (Though I will keep hope that the face plate will make a couple of appearances)
Worked for Darth Vader, I don't see why it wouldn't work again.
Peyton Westlake
03-20-2009, 12:30 AM
I admit, I am not schooled in G.I. Joe history, but isnt CC a human?
Doctor Doom
03-20-2009, 12:37 AM
I admit, I am not schooled in G.I. Joe history, but isnt CC a human?
Depends on which project you are referring to; cartoon or comic.
He wasn't human in the cartoon, he was a human-snake/reptile hybrid.
cartoon=Snake man
Comics= a disenfranchised american who started his own terrorist faction.
(Friggin' AWESOME origin)
cronosred
03-20-2009, 02:12 AM
It's sad to look at those photos and know we won't see anything that cool in the movie because some fool convinced himself that it somehow resembled a KKK outfit. :csad:
Peyton Westlake
03-20-2009, 11:19 AM
cartoon=Snake man
Comics= a disenfranchised american who started his own terrorist faction.
(Friggin' AWESOME origin)
Which origin came 1st, the comic or cartoon? And,according to Joe fans, is there 1 that they subscribe to more then the other?
Doctor Doom
03-20-2009, 07:35 PM
Which origin came 1st, the comic or cartoon? And,according to Joe fans, is there 1 that they subscribe to more then the other?
The comics came first in 1982, and I believe came out with their Cobra Commander origin first. The tv show deputed in 1985.
Peyton Westlake
03-21-2009, 01:01 AM
The comics came first in 1982, and I believe came out with their Cobra Commander origin first. The tv show deputed in 1985.
Ok, so putting you on the spot.....which origin should the movie adhere to?
gkokujin
03-21-2009, 01:16 AM
Speaking of which, everyone in this film is wearing friggin' black! This leaves the general public (and myself, an actual Joe FAN) to scratch heads and ask..."Who are the bad guys?"
Blame the Matrix and Bryan Singers XMen
gkokujin
03-21-2009, 01:20 AM
I always wondered how the **** he saw out of that thing.
when you got six eyes im sure you can find away.
remember in GI Joe the movie, they showed the inside of his faceplate.
Originally Posted by Peyton Westlake http://forums.superherohype.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=16627562#post16627562)
Which origin came 1st, the comic or cartoon?
Like Doctor Doom said the comics (and toy line) came first in 82 then the animated series.
Originally Posted by Peyton Westlake http://forums.superherohype.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=16627562#post16627562)
And,according to Joe fans, is there 1 that they subscribe to more then the other?
Joe fans adhere to the comics origin. The cartoon one came at the very end of the series with an animated Joe film that most fans found to "comic booky" (an odd attitude I find, especially given the stuff we had in Season 2, which fans love)
Ok, so putting you on the spot.....which origin should the movie adhere to?
The film should follow the idea of a disenfranchised american starting his own terrorist cell. It is a very original idea and theme and unfortunatly in todays climate no one has the balls t oput this into a film because "americans can't be terrorists".
Peyton Westlake
03-21-2009, 10:50 AM
The film should follow the idea of a disenfranchised american starting his own terrorist cell. It is a very original idea and theme and unfortunatly in todays climate no one has the balls t oput this into a film because "americans can't be terrorists".
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Well, if i had to choose, I see we think alike. The hybrid human reptile thing is to unbelievable so the comic origin works better. It would be a nice twist having CC be American also,although I see them tweaking it by having his origin from another country.
HHHDan
03-22-2009, 04:37 AM
While I'll admit the whole Cobra-La origine story (From the '80s cartoon) is way too out there to be put into the movie (Probably even within a series of movies), if I would have had the final say, I would have done exactly what the cartoon did which is not to reveal the back ground story and leave it a mystery as long as possible (After all: It took 2 years and the G.I. Joe movie before we had any hint as to who -or what- Cobra Commander was). That way, everybody can choose the origine story they want (... Heck: There could even then, after 3 or 4 G.I. Joe movies, have been a "G.I. Joe Origine: Cobra Commander" movie! -Wow, just for that possibility: I actually like my idea of not revealing the origine of CC in this first movie even better now then when I started writing this!!)
... But then, I'll admit to being 100% biased to the cartoon story of Cobra Commander because it is the only one I ever new (Never got to read the other one)... But then again: CC being this cast away scientist who hides his face behind a mask because he is both non-human and disfigured with multiple eyes is pretty damn cool nontheless!
Doctor Doom
03-22-2009, 11:35 AM
While I'll admit the whole Cobra-La origine story (From the '80s cartoon) is way too out there to be put into the movie (Probably even within a series of movies), if I would have had the final say, I would have done exactly what the cartoon did which is not to reveal the back ground story and leave it a mystery as long as possible (After all: It took 2 years and the G.I. Joe movie before we had any hint as to who -or what- Cobra Commander was). That way, everybody can choose the origine story they want (... Heck: There could even then, after 3 or 4 G.I. Joe movies, have been a "G.I. Joe Origine: Cobra Commander" movie! -Wow, just for that possibility: I actually like my idea of not revealing the origine of CC in this first movie even better now then when I started writing this!!)
... But then, I'll admit to being 100% biased to the cartoon story of Cobra Commander because it is the only one I ever new (Never got to read the other one)... But then again: CC being this cast away scientist who hides his face behind a mask because he is both non-human and disfigured with multiple eyes is pretty damn cool nontheless!
I would be happy if they kept CC's origin a secret.
Weadazoid
03-22-2009, 12:14 PM
While I'll admit the whole Cobra-La origine story (From the '80s cartoon) is way too out there to be put into the movie (Probably even within a series of movies), if I would have had the final say, I would have done exactly what the cartoon did which is not to reveal the back ground story and leave it a mystery as long as possible (After all: It took 2 years and the G.I. Joe movie before we had any hint as to who -or what- Cobra Commander was). That way, everybody can choose the origine story they want (... Heck: There could even then, after 3 or 4 G.I. Joe movies, have been a "G.I. Joe Origine: Cobra Commander" movie! -Wow, just for that possibility: I actually like my idea of not revealing the origine of CC in this first movie even better now then when I started writing this!!)
... But then, I'll admit to being 100% biased to the cartoon story of Cobra Commander because it is the only one I ever new (Never got to read the other one)... But then again: CC being this cast away scientist who hides his face behind a mask because he is both non-human and disfigured with multiple eyes is pretty damn cool nontheless!
If you are refering to the whole Serpentor creation, it was one of my all time favorite cartoon runs and reveals as to everything behind the Comander.
HHHDan
03-22-2009, 02:58 PM
If you are refering to the whole Serpentor creation, it was one of my all time favorite cartoon runs and reveals as to everything behind the Comander.
No, actually: Serpentor's creation was a whole separate story (During the original 2 year series) from the Cobra-La (From the movie; here a link to see the movie on you tube, in case you're interested http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZdgIA7E1xU).
Serpentos origin was the mini series to start up season 2 (Arise Serpentor Arise)
I wouldnt mind if there was no CC origin in the film. Why would it be so bad to just have the movie start and Cobra and Joe are already established?
Raiden
03-23-2009, 01:26 PM
Serpentos origin was the mini series to start up season 2 (Arise Serpentor Arise)
I wouldnt mind if there was no CC origin in the film. Why would it be so bad to just have the movie start and Cobra and Joe are already established?
That's the way that I think they should've done, instead of this "Rise of Cobra" origin BS. Do we really need to know how Cobra Commander created Cobra? The less we know about Cobra, the most mysterious they become and better villain they will be.
Doctor Doom
03-23-2009, 11:32 PM
That's the way that I think they should've done, instead of this "Rise of Cobra" origin BS. Do we really need to know how Cobra Commander created Cobra? The less we know about Cobra, the most mysterious they become and better villain they will be.
I agree, the less we know, the better.
And (not) knowing is half the battle ;)
Doctor Doom
03-24-2009, 10:24 AM
Hahaha
Peyton Westlake
03-24-2009, 10:49 AM
That's the way that I think they should've done, instead of this "Rise of Cobra" origin BS. Do we really need to know how Cobra Commander created Cobra? The less we know about Cobra, the most mysterious they become and better villain they will be.
I agree, never was a fan of every comic theme movie, always having to show the origin of EVERYTHING, lets us just watch.
That-Guy
03-24-2009, 12:27 PM
Blame the Matrix and Bryan Singers XMen
And don't forget the costumes of Brett Ratner's MatriX-Men: The Last Stand.
Peyton Westlake
03-24-2009, 04:27 PM
Too many origins to fit in 1 movie I am thinking, there is CC, Destro, Snake Eyes.......I just hope it was all handled well.
MarvelCrazy
03-25-2009, 01:21 PM
Major Spoiler! Here is the official Movie Cobra Commander!
http://www.hisstank.com/gi-joe-news/gi-joe-movie-2/gi-joe-movie-exclusive-cobra-commander-images-8138/
Looks very............new................no mask no hood
terry78
03-25-2009, 01:35 PM
Major Spoiler! Here is the official Movie Cobra Commander!
http://www.hisstank.com/gi-joe-news/gi-joe-movie-2/gi-joe-movie-exclusive-cobra-commander-images-8138/
Looks very............new................no mask no hood
That is gonna scare the **** out of people.
Doctor Doom
03-25-2009, 05:07 PM
I like it. Not that I don't approve of his other looks, but it could've been a lot worse.
DOG LIPS
03-25-2009, 05:30 PM
What does his bio on the back say? It won't let me enlarge the picture at their site without signing up.
montreal_clown
03-25-2009, 09:06 PM
What does his bio on the back say? It won't let me enlarge the picture at their site without signing up.
The bio says:
The deviously brilliant leader of COBRA demands complete allegiance from his followers as he works toward his ultimate goal of controlling the world.
He hides a deadly secret few others know, just as his mask covers disfiguring damage from a fiery accident.
Preferred Weapon:
M.A.R.S. Industries radical exponential nan-injector system
DOG LIPS
03-25-2009, 09:53 PM
The bio says:
The deviously brilliant leader of COBRA demands complete allegiance from his followers as he works toward his ultimate goal of controlling the world.
He hides a deadly secret few others know, just as his mask covers disfiguring damage from a fiery accident.
Preferred Weapon:
M.A.R.S. Industries radical exponential nan-injector system
Nice. Thanks. :up:
Peyton Westlake
03-27-2009, 12:10 AM
Not what I expected, but not bad either.
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