Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen news,info, etc thread

[Golgo-13]

Source Variety magazine:

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117975064.html?categoryId=13&cs=1

Not on the pre-strike list is "Transformers 2," a sequel that is still being written. Labor talks will determine whether the visual effects-heavy film makes its projected June 26, 2009, release date.

:csad:

[A Dark Knight]

Source Variety magazine:

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117975064.html?categoryId=13&cs=1



:csad:

Yeah it sucks, I don't think the script was close to being done, if the strike goes on for a while we won't see TF2 until 2010.

[Bumblebee1983]

Source Variety magazine:

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117975064.html?categoryId=13&cs=1



:csad:


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Okay, peeps, now is the time to try to break into Hollywood by submitting scripts.

I won't demand that much...honest!!!! Just GET A DAMN SCRIPT APPROVED TO BEGIN FILMING!!!!! I NEED A SEQUEL DAMNIT!!!

Pardon my language...but I'm sad over this. :csad:

[Dr Lee]

F**k.... This strike is really starting to p*ss me off.

[Jake Cassidy]

Those selfish ****ing bastards. :woot: :oldrazz:

[Bumblebee1983]

F**k.... This strike is really starting to p*ss me off.

Yup...me too.

Those selfish ****ing bastards. :woot: :oldrazz:

Yup again.....I would not demand that much! Just allow me and a team to write the script and get it bought. :woot:

[Golgo-13]

I could have swore just a few weeks ago Speilburg said the script was done. Maybe he meant the first draft.

[Bumblebee1983]

I could have swore just a few weeks ago Speilburg said the script was done. Maybe he meant the first draft.

It seems that I read Spieberg was speeding up the script process to get it approved before the strike.

[spidergrant]

well considering this is the only place ive heard im hoping this isnt true

[Chris B]

I could have swore just a few weeks ago Speilburg said the script was done. Maybe he meant the first draft.

I think he said that the story would be set in stone.

[Abaddon]

Good.:o

[spidergrant]

i will be mad if we have to wait tell 2010 for transformers 2. i remember when we had to wait 3 years for spiderman 3 and then it was a huge let down. and if by any slight chance that tf 2 will suck (which is almost imposible) i dont want to wait 3 years for crap

[CorpusBlack]

Can't the filmmakers say "screw these a**holes" and just hire young hungry writers trying to break into the biz? Or does everything have to go thru the Writer's Guild?

[spidergrant]

well do you guys really want to wait 2 years and find out they got a writer that made a sucky transformers

[Venom160]

damn Speilberg and Bay needs to just hire some of us, we'll give em a kickass movie.....for a small fee that is. :D

[Golgo-13]

TOne the cover of the latest WIZARD mag, there's already talk of TF2! I haven't got or read the issue yet, but if anyone has plz post what you learn.....

http://wizarduniverse.com/_images_/006499/195b.cvr.jpg

[Avangarde]

Geez, what possible info would they have on it that we don't already know? Cheers for the post Golgo

[IamProdigy]

Well...they have a picture of Bumblebee, lol.

[Golgo-13]

Geez, what possible info would they have on it that we don't already know? Cheers for the post Golgo

I don't know..i don't have the issue yet.

[DJ Kornphlake]

This topic is kind of pointless if you haven't even read the article.

[Golgo-13]

...that's why i said in my initial post could someone post what was in the article.

[tzarinna]

*waits*

[millennium movies]

People are too busy looking at the Joker articles :(

[Mal'Akai]

I don't know..i don't have the issue yet.
I even asked a comic shop about that issue, and they had no clue. Figured they would have know about it from the net, but they were clueless.

[*Dead*End*]

BUMMER!!!:dry:

[Jake Cassidy]

Wizard is crap, anyway.

[Nighthawk_Fan]

People are too busy looking at the Joker articles :(

Yeah, pretty much. It might just be a couple of lines about TF2, anyways.

[Avangarde]

http://www.seibertron.com/news/view.php?id=12070

:(

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^That is worrying, i dont mind waiting an extra year for the movie, but if other stuff effect it, it could be damaging.

[millennium movies]

"BTW, Bay just indicated to me that Transformers is still on schedule," he writes. "The movie is still in heavy prep and 'will be released JUNE 24th 2009.'"

http://tformers.com/transformers-bay-says-transformers/8715/news.html

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

http://tformers.com/transformers-bay-says-transformers/8715/news.html

Awesome, when is this from may i ask? Awesome news though.

[millennium movies]

Yesterday, Dec. 6th!

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Brilliant! Great news thanks for the source.

[TheVileOne]

They don't have to wait for a script because the first movie didn't have one :p .

[Theweepeople]

I could understand the writers going on strike if they were doing such a great job creating scripts for movies and scenarios for tv shows but, that is clearly not what has happened. I haven't seen a good sitcom in a long time. The only shows I've enjoyed watching since 2001 are the csi shows. 90% of the hollywood films made since 2000 are unoriginal crap. The vast majority of these writers don't deserve more money.

[Destructicus]

Awrrg. I cant wait.

[Roaring_Hulk!]

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/006599261.cfm

[WarBlade]

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/006599261.cfm

So, in other words Wizard don't have a scoop. They just picked some fan rantings up from message boards and threw in a couple of old quotes from the likes of Bay and DeSanto to try and establish some credibility.

Gotta love the "word on the street" entry for Blitzwing (which about sums up the whole 'scoop'). :hehe:

[HboyBowen]

Oh yea I read it christmas weekend at borders bookstore it tells all action and superhero, fantasy, everything ur gonna wonna see until 2010. It was so many I can only name a few it took up 6 pages to read about all the future films. The top of my list i remember is the avengers, Punisher: warzone,Thor, Antman,JLA, Green Lantern, Titans(based off Teen Titians), Avatar(directed by M. Knight Shamaliyian based on the Nickelodeon cartoon), Monkey King( Jet Li vs. Jackie Chan finally),DragonBall Z(cant believe it but its to late like 4 years to late),Mummy 3, Wonder Woman,The Hobbit(pending legal agreement),Halo,Wanted,IronMan, Transformers 2,Voltron,Speed Racer(kid movie saw trailer very dissappointing),Xmen Origins:Magneto,Xmen Origins: Wolfverine,Heman and the masters of the universe, AstroBoy, it was a lot more I jus cant remember them all,oh yea and a possible spiderman 4 pending tobey's return,and Man of Steel(superman):brucebat: :bh:

[HboyBowen]

it said arcee, devestor and like 8 others but they stuck the most to me.

[rsonbie456]

that's why i have time to make up stories for people to see :woot: (Next week on Youtube: 0 views
Oh yea I read it christmas weekend at borders bookstore it tells all action and superhero, fantasy, everything ur gonna wonna see until 2010. It was so many I can only name a few it took up 6 pages to read about all the future films. The top of my list i remember is the avengers, Punisher: warzone,Thor, Antman,JLA, Green Lantern, Titans(based off Teen Titians), Avatar(directed by M. Knight Shamaliyian based on the Nickelodeon cartoon), Monkey King( Jet Li vs. Jackie Chan finally),DragonBall Z(cant believe it but its to late like 4 years to late),Mummy 3, Wonder Woman,The Hobbit(pending legal agreement),Halo,Wanted,IronMan, Transformers 2,Voltron,Speed Racer(kid movie saw trailer very dissappointing),Xmen Origins:Magneto,Xmen Origins: Wolfverine,Heman and the masters of the universe, AstroBoy, it was a lot more I jus cant remember them all,oh yea and a possible spiderman 4 pending tobey's return,and Man of Steel(superman):brucebat: :bh:

[fabman]

Another problem, next to the writers' strike, is the fact that Steven Spielberg is likely to sell DreamWorks to Universal Pictures, which may delay the production of Transformers 2.

[Golgo-13]

Mo money, mo problems. :csad:

[Chris B]

The news on the front page helps affirm my suspicion that TF2 will be pushed back at least a year.

[That'ssuper!]

I kind of hope this film is pressed back even more, as much as possibe IMO. I thought this was one of the top superhero films I'd ever seen.

[Golgo-13]

From the front page:

Michael Bay Promises Unique and More Robots
Source: MichaelBay.com January 3, 2008

In a Happy New Year's message to fans on his official website, Transformers director Michael Bay wrote:

For the millions of viewers that logged on this year I want to thank you for the support. Transformers 2 will be coming soon. The new robots are really really unique and there are a lot of them this time.

Paramount/DreamWorks is planning a June 26, 2009 release for Transformers 2. Transformers was the third-biggest film of 2007 domestically with $319.2 million and fifth-biggest worldwide in 2007 with $706.5 million.

[Nighthawk_Fan]

I jsut wish this movie would focus on the Autobots, and let the humans be the secondary characters. Like the G1 cartoon.

[Golgo-13]

I hope when Bay says 'more and unique', he's not talking about getting crazy with the designs. Plus i hope this means we'll see more G1 chaarcters , as opposed to Hasbro trying to cash in by making more NEW characters to sell more toys...

[Dr Lee]

From the sounds of that, they've got everything sorted out Storywise but a final script...

makes me hate this (Curses and naughty words) strike even more. Wonder who exactly the new bots are?

[Golgo-13]

Good to hear TF might be getting an F/X Oscar nod....

[lars573]

I hope when Bay says 'more and unique', he's not talking about getting crazy with the designs. Plus i hope this means we'll see more G1 chaarcters , as opposed to Hasbro trying to cash in by making more NEW characters to sell more toys...
There wasn't a single "new" character in the movie. :o

[Avangarde]

Considering how good the first movies FX were, they can only get better in TF2, I'm looking forward to seeing just how much they improve on.

[Golgo-13]

From the front page:

Lorenzo di Bonaventura on G.I. Joe, Transformers 2
Source: IESB January 8, 2008

IESB has posted a great interview with G.I. Joe and Transformers 2 producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura in which he provides updates on both projects.

About G.I. Joe, he says that shooting starts in five weeks, that you can expect more casting announcements in the next few weeks, and he talks about the cast members so far and storyline. Here are just a few clips:

It's a tricky balance. One, you want to keep the story elements secret. I can say this very convincingly, if you're a Joe vs. Cobra fan, then you will be feel incredibly happy about the movie... I would say a Batman Begins. Well, I would say this, it would be more like the original Batman in the sense that you know, it's really taking a comic book, have you seen the original cartoon movie? The Joe movie?... If you would you say the original GI Joe movie was like the original Batman movie with Jack Nicholson then I would say this is like Batman Begins.

He added that they are targeting a June 2 start for Transformers 2, but that date is up in the air because of the writers strike:

We're nowhere because of the strike, we won't know until we come back. We have a very fine outline and we know exactly where we want go with the movie but until this writers strike comes back, we'll find out exactly where we are. Michael is completely on top of every detail. He's designed a lot of great stuff already. He's got a lot of great sequences imagined but you know, he needs some writers to work with before he's ready to go, so I would say June 2nd is an unofficial start, it's the target date we'd like to go for but, you know, we've got to get some writers to help us.

[Super Kal]

here's to getting things settled with the strike :up:

[Avangarde]

June 2nd hey, well it will be nice to see TF2 in pre production, we may even get the TF2 forum setup right by then.

[Golgo-13]

^:up:

[Golgo-13]

From the SHH front page:

Bay on Prepping Transformers 2 During Strike
Source: Variety January 18, 2008

Director Michael Bay told Variety that he has been preparing to get the Transformers sequel into production, strike or no strike.

"We knew from early on that the writers strike could get ugly, and this has got to bring a little sanity to the situation," Bay said. "I can't do the movie without my writers, but I have been prepping. I'm not in the guild, but I've been writing every day. This strike (is) insane, and a director's responsibility is to the 50 crew members who depend on you for their livelihoods. We've got battle plans ready for the possibility of an actors strike. Somehow, you've got to keep the ball rolling."

Hopefully the Directors Guild of America's tentative agreement with the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers will lead to agreements with the Writers Guild of America and Screen Actors Guild as well.

[Dr Lee]

So Bay could write the sequel.....

Has he written anything before?

How far through the prepping were they when the strike hit?

[Golgo-13]

I think he's probably written a rough outline of what he wants to happen and the action sequences. As far as dialogue; i think that's what he wants the writers to tackle.

[Dr Lee]

Well with the DGA... or whatever the directors group is called... agreeig a deal i can't see the writers holding out much longer, Especially if the actors follow with their own deal soon.

[Avangarde]

There is also a good chance Bay has caught up with Hasbro again to deal with new bots to join the cast. He's probably doing as much as he can to get this movie going without the help of the writers. If he wasn't I wouldn't expect to see TF2 out for quite some time.

[Lighthouse]

Anyone else think its funny that the movie seems to be already to go except for the script? Like its the least important aspect of making the movie?

[Avangarde]

Not really, we all knew full well that the writers strike would have an impact on the development of TF2, Bay is just trying to do as much as he can without them. He has the movie set to be released in roughly 18 months from now, if he was to wait for the writers before doing anything then I couldn't see them making the release date. I just hope they don't rush its production due to the effects of the writers (and maybe a potential actors) strike.

[dark_b]

i think he is writting at home ideas on papers. so that when the writters are back he will have tons of ideas for the story and action scenes.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Not really, we all knew full well that the writers strike would have an impact on the development of TF2, Bay is just trying to do as much as he can without them. He has the movie set to be released in roughly 18 months from now, if he was to wait for the writers before doing anything then I couldn't see them making the release date. I just hope they don't rush its production due to the effects of the writers (and maybe a potential actors) strike.

Thats my biggest worry with TF2, history has shown us that a rushed movie often ends up being no better than average, X3 is a prime example of an extremely poor movie resulting from a rushed production.

[Hush]

Well i wouldnt worry about a Rushed production here I mean i know he gets alot of hate but the guy has ALOT of pull in this bussiness and if he feels like he is pacing incorrectly he will say so. the mman is extremely blunt form what i have gathered and I think we will get a very good sequel, just look at Bad Boys 2 i mean it wasnt amazing but he did what you are supposed to do with a sequel he made it bigger and better not to metion i think he has a true passion for this property now ecspecially if he is now writing all kinds of stuff down for his "ideas" that is dedication.

[Grievous]

There wasn't a single "new" character in the movie. :o
however Hasbro did try after the movie to make some extra money With there toys. I saw the same Transformers, same shape and everything. But with a different paint job and a different name.

[gfleming21]

honestly id rather them wait and do a good job out of it rather than screw it up and rush to make the relase date and making it suck. i think all the special effects alone would take months so if it has to wait till 2010 let it be.

[Lord Blackbolt]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gGQsthDNGW0&feature=related

Anyone seen this.

[Avangarde]

Sure have.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Well i wouldnt worry about a Rushed production here I mean i know he gets alot of hate but the guy has ALOT of pull in this bussiness and if he feels like he is pacing incorrectly he will say so. the mman is extremely blunt form what i have gathered and I think we will get a very good sequel, just look at Bad Boys 2 i mean it wasnt amazing but he did what you are supposed to do with a sequel he made it bigger and better not to metion i think he has a true passion for this property now ecspecially if he is now writing all kinds of stuff down for his "ideas" that is dedication.

All of this is true, but if the studio wants the movie out in June '09, Bay may have no choice.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gGQsthDNGW0&feature=related

Anyone seen this.

That is unbelievably ****ing funny!

[Figs]

Front page says Bay finished his script/treatment and they have all the transformer designs down.

Michael Bay Has Written Transformers 2
Source: Rotten Tomatoes, IESB February 12, 2008


Transformers 2 director Michael Bay told Rotten Tomatoes at the Visual Effects Society awards that he's already written the sequel and will pass on his script to the screenwriters, who are coming off of the strike:

"I've been writing Transformers 2," said Bay. "We've got our characters all designed. I always write all my scripts, my movies anyway so at least I've got something to give the writers. It's like a template. We have a really good outline so I worked on that." It might be a tad unorthodox, but Bay has high pressure demands. "We had to because I want to make my date. I'm not going to let the strike take me down."

Bay also spoke to IESB, who he assured that we won't be seeing Dinobots in the follow-up. ILM's Scott Farrar also told the site that there will be a lot more robots this time and that the animatics look amazing so far.

[matthooper]

Front page says Bay finished his script/treatment and they have all the transformer designs down.

Michael Bay Has Written Transformers 2
Source: Rotten Tomatoes, IESB February 12, 2008


Transformers 2 director Michael Bay told Rotten Tomatoes at the Visual Effects Society awards that he's already written the sequel and will pass on his script to the screenwriters, who are coming off of the strike:

"I've been writing Transformers 2," said Bay. "We've got our characters all designed. I always write all my scripts, my movies anyway so at least I've got something to give the writers. It's like a template. We have a really good outline so I worked on that." It might be a tad unorthodox, but Bay has high pressure demands. "We had to because I want to make my date. I'm not going to let the strike take me down."

Bay also spoke to IESB, who he assured that we won't be seeing Dinobots in the follow-up. ILM's Scott Farrar also told the site that there will be a lot more robots this time and that the animatics look amazing so far.

Here's the script he turned in:

Fade In:

Robots do stuff.

(Insert bad plot)

More mindless action with even more robots than the first one.

Fade Out

[Jake Cassidy]

That was hilarious. :whatever:

[Yūgi's BM]

Come now children, the movie's primary purpose is to sell toys. The more robots the more toys and the more toys the happier HASBRO is.

[IamProdigy]

Here's the script he turned in:

Fade In:

Robots do stuff.

(Insert bad plot)

More mindless action with even more robots than the first one.

Fade Out


Sounds WAY better than Spider-Man 3.

:grin:

[The Freak]

Sounds WAY better than Spider-Man 3.

:grin:Transformers didn't do as good as spider amn 3 at the box office, nor in video game sales or even in toys.

[Thirteen Shadows]

Transformers didn't do as good as spider amn 3 at the box office, nor in video game sales or even in toys.

Because the movie that makes the most money is the better film.:whatever:

*cough*Meetthespartans*cough*

[Avangarde]

I'm not surprised Bay didn't include the Dinobots, it's the sort of concept he would consider stupid :dry:

[ihateusernames]

Transformers didn't do as good as spider amn 3 at the box office, nor in video game sales or even in toys.
Your telling me spider-man toys sold more than transformers?

Don't get me wrong, I love both... but, I want some proof.

[skorponok]

Transformers didn't do as good as spider amn 3 at the box office, nor in video game sales or even in toys.

Spider-man 3 also cost around TWICE as much to make as Transformers...so you lose ;)

[Avangarde]

:up:

[millennium movies]

He already failed at his statement when he put the part that says that this is the third in the franchise aka 3...

[Jake Cassidy]

Transformers didn't do as good as spider amn 3 at the box office, nor in video game sales or even in toys.

TF is kickin' ass in DVD sales, though. Spider-Man 3 was rubbish, anyway. :grin:

[DACrowe]

Wow, this movie is gonna' be worse than the first one. At least the writers were on this before Bay and so was Speilberg's input. The Bay ego is going overboard on this one. Say what you will about Raimi, but despite the problems he may have with pacing, he understands character development. The first one had very little and was in development before Bay saw the script. This is a bad sign methinks.

[The Chibi Kiriyama]

This has "bad move" written all over. Orci and Kurtzman's original script was pretty mediocre, even when keeping an open mind. The SFX and touchups were what made the film good. Now Bay's doing a knockoff of that by himself? Here's hoping it's either a) one of the best things he's ever made or b) is fixed by a proficient writer.

[IamProdigy]

Transformers didn't do as good as spider amn 3 at the box office, nor in video game sales or even in toys.

I guess no one agreed with your statement, huh? Lol.

Spider-Man 3 was had twice the budget that Transformers did, but yet, had much, much better effects(besides the Sandman transformation scene, I must admit, it was an actual great scene even for that movie, SFX and emotional, and that should deserve major props), but in the outcome Spider-Man 3 was a downfall of a desperate move because it did not go pass all the hype; the video game, okay, I'll give you that one, the TF game wasn't the best, it could've been better, but being Optimus Prime was sweet, lol; and the toys, well, I have no freaking clue.

[The Chibi Kiriyama]

Even in the toy category, Hasbro voiced disappointment that the SM3 toys didn't sell more than they already did in light of the amount they expected to sell. I haven't heard such a comment made in regards to the TF film's toyline.

[DACrowe]

What does it matter? Why is it war between fanboys? I simply think there is more heart and depth to SM3, but TF has better action and a more balanced (if extremely formulaic and self-serious full of pretentions) pacing. But I could care less which made more money. I know which I like better and that is all that matters.

Anyway, people who are defending Bay and the studio for going deep into pre-production without a screenplay because it is the only way of meeting the release date for next year are missing the point. Reaching that said release date should not be the priority. One would think taking an extra year to make a better movie would equate to better returns and longevity of the franchise and the novelty would not run out in the meantime with no other giant robot franchise out there (albeit I'd love to see a Gundam trilogy). It is a move to make a quick buck by the studio, which is why many show disdain for the move because there is nothing creative or artistic driving the decision as they are essentially opting to make an inferior movie so as to make money faster. Movies are a business, but it is nice when the director and "auteur" of the movie is thinking beyond the bottom line. That is the critique they are (minorly) facing.

[Decoy Lad]

What does it matter? Why is it war between fanboys? I simply think there is more heart and depth to SM3, but TF has better action and a more balanced (if extremely formulaic and self-serious full of pretentions) pacing. But I could care less which made more money. I know which I like better and that is all that matters.


Well said DACrowe, it doesn't matter which movie made more at the boxoffice or peddled more merchandise, it's the quality of the movies themselves that counts, Oh we're talking about Spider-Man 3 and Transformers.... uhmm nevermind.:csad:

As for Micheal Bay Writing :funny::funny::funny:, he probably just reworked his script for Pearl harbor 2: Reloaded.

[dark_b]

whait a minute. does this mean that TF2 is coming out in 2009 ?
because why did he say that he has a date if he would mean 2010?

[Avangarde]

This has "bad move" written all over. Orci and Kurtzman's original script was pretty mediocre, even when keeping an open mind. The SFX and touchups were what made the film good. Now Bay's doing a knockoff of that by himself? Here's hoping it's either a) one of the best things he's ever made or b) is fixed by a proficient writer.

I think he just wrote the outline of the script, Orci and Kurtzman will rewrite it once the strike is over, with a bit of luck they will add there own input into it rather then rely on Bay's limited knowledge of TF's.

[Avangarde]

whait a minute. does this mean that TF2 is coming out in 2009 ?
because why did he say that he has a date if he would mean 2010?

look at my sig.

[millennium movies]

Man you guys can't read can you? Well some of you anyway...he has written a more detailed version of the outline that the real writers did before the strike started. It's what he would like to see happen in direction based on what they first wrote as an outline. Nothing to get dramatic over...

Writers outline>Bay's update expansion>Writers script

[dark_b]

thats true.

and i hope that spielberg is still the producer. i dont think that spielberg wants hes name to be on a dumb and idiotic movie.

[Jake Cassidy]

Ehren Kruger is involved with the writing too. That's a real good sign that it will be better than the first one. He's done some really great stuff.

[Kal-El 8]

Michael Bay Has Written Transformers 2
Source: Rotten Tomatoes, IESB
February 12, 2008


Transformers 2 director Michael Bay told Rotten Tomatoes at the Visual Effects Society awards that he's already written the sequel and will pass on his script to the screenwriters, who are coming off of the strike:

"I've been writing Transformers 2," said Bay. "We've got our characters all designed. I always write all my scripts, my movies anyway so at least I've got something to give the writers. It's like a template. We have a really good outline so I worked on that." It might be a tad unorthodox, but Bay has high pressure demands. "We had to because I want to make my date. I'm not going to let the strike take me down."

Bay also spoke to IESB, who he assured that we won't be seeing Dinobots in the follow-up. ILM's Scott Farrar also told the site that there will be a lot more robots this time and that the animatics look amazing so far.

Transformers 2 is scheduled for a June 26, 2009 release.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=6785

Ah Rats :sad:

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Hhhmm, not sure what to think about this move, but if he just wrote an outline based on the writers' first outline, and then this will be touched up by Orci and Kurtzman, it may work out ok, we'll see.

[The Chibi Kiriyama]

I'm aware that it's just an outline. I'm just wondering how fleshed out an outline can become before it's an unofficial script.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Bay has been prepping the robots, etc as well, so i doubt its a big outline/full script, it will just be things the writers can expand on probably.

[Avangarde]

People also seem to be forgetting that Bay has constantly been meeting with Hasbro about the new bots to feature in the next movie. Just like the first movie Hasbro educated Bay on the bots and there characteristics, I'm sure they would have dont the same for TF2, and it is in Hasbro's best interest to make sure Bay doesn't screw around with there bots so we can atleast take that into account.

Just on another topic but is that retard Don Murphy involved with TF2?

[MagicPrime]

Who knows, maybe the writers will be happier this time around and we could get an even better movie.

[millennium movies]

Of course they will be they just got a great deal out of this strike plus a good bonus for doing the sequel. It's all about money for these bastards...

[Avangarde]

Orci and Kurtzman were already excited about TF2, they were getting into it when the first movie came out and Paramount green lighted TF2, I can remember them telling telling people that they have all these great ideas and all. I don't think the strike will have a huge impact on their writing ability, sure it will be some incentive.

[millennium movies]

Maybe im alone but the fact they kept posting on forums that they "dont have time" or that they wont return for the sequel, showing lack of interest, gave me this impression that they dont care and were only lured back by the paycheck.

[Jick09]

This has "bad move" written all over. Orci and Kurtzman's original script was pretty mediocre, even when keeping an open mind. The SFX and touchups were what made the film good. Now Bay's doing a knockoff of that by himself? Here's hoping it's either a) one of the best things he's ever made or b) is fixed by a proficient writer.well...he said he gave his script to the writers.
so...let's hope they make it better.


............and yeah...it's better than SM3, imo.

[Avangarde]

Maybe im alone but the fact they kept posting on forums that they "dont have time" or that they wont return for the sequel, showing lack of interest, gave me this impression that they dont care and were only lured back by the paycheck.

Really? Well that is odd, I can remember them talking about having a heap of great ideas, hmmm.

[millennium movies]

Well hey i hope im wrong and they do care about the project! On a sidenote it seems people still don't understand this "Bay wrote TF2" issue...

[Avangarde]

They will get it eventually.

[millennium movies]

My good old friend Avangarde, do you know where i can buy the poster with "flaming prime"?

[Figs]

For the people who think Bay is full-on writing the movie...HE'S NOT!

He states that for his movies he likes to write out the basic story outline/chain of events.

It does not mean he is writing the dialogue let alone every single individual scene in the film.

So don't worry, hang in there till we get more news.

[millennium movies]

Don't bother Fig, they are determined to hate on Bay for any chance they get. I tried explaining it to them before but haters, what can you do...

[Figs]

Can't do much but ignore them I guess.

By the way, haven't seen you around here in awhile. How is the movie making process coming along?

[Golgo-13]

Glad the strikes over............bring on TF2!

[millennium movies]

Can't do much but ignore them I guess.

By the way, haven't seen you around here in awhile. How is the movie making process coming along?

Sadly it's not coming at all...i guess work does kill my creativity! The most work i get done is in the graphics department.

[Figs]

So do you mean your day job is getting in the way?

[millennium movies]

Yeah exactly! I have two jobs on top of that so it's a hassle sometimes. I'm probably gonna sound stupid saying this, but what have i told you before about projects or such?

[Figs]

I just remember back on these boards before Transformers was finished and released you had mentioned a few times you were trying to get some movies/projects started.

[millennium movies]

Yeah with no success sadly. The problem is not time or anything, it's the scripts, im the only one that's in a position to write the scripts. I'm horrible at coming up with dialogue and im not one bit motivated to write scripts or such. One of our scripts i started last year is only at 6/7 pages and i haven't been able to continue. It's like a block :(


yeah i know...excuses lol

[MagicPrime]

I just hope they make TF2 a stand-alone film, rather than following the path of PotC or The Matrix where they make the sequels interconnected to a trilogy and release them in fast succession.

There is a difference between leaving a film open for a sequel and leaving a film open for a sequel.

[Figs]

Yeah with no success sadly. The problem is not time or anything, it's the scripts, im the only one that's in a position to write the scripts. I'm horrible at coming up with dialogue and im not one bit motivated to write scripts or such. One of our scripts i started last year is only at 6/7 pages and i haven't been able to continue. It's like a block :(


yeah i know...excuses lol

At least you have 6/7 pages lol. That's one of the things I would love to do is write. A lot of my friends for motivation tell me to just START writing.

For me it's not that easy, not just because im hard on myself and what I do but I just can't seem to come up with any great ideas.

The other problem is I've read so many books, watched so many movies and played so many video games most of my ideas I hate because I can always think of something that already did it first.

[millennium movies]

I have the same problem, specially the last part you mentioned i really want to be original. To be honest my biggest influence is Michael Mann, love the way that guy works and thinks about films.

[Figs]

Yeah, I'm trying to think of somethign original that hasn't been done and it just gets me frustrated. Then my friends tell me to just take something that already exists but put a different twist or take on it.

That's also easier said than done lol.


Michael Mann does some good movies. The only one I haven't gotten around to seeing is Miami Vice. Add that to my rental que soon.

[millennium movies]

It's either love it or hate it with Miami Vice it seems. I find it pure excellency!

[millennium movies]

It was tough for Bay to go back, he admitted after the show, as he's already deep into pre-production on Transformers 2, which is set to start filming on June 2. Bay didn't let the strike stop him. "The strike was a drag," he said. "But I like to write myself. So I wrote 60 pages. I showed the writers something to look at. We'll get back to the torture chamber on Monday." Transformers 2 will deepen the different robot characters as well as the humor, he said. "There's a geriatric robot. If there's an actors strike we'll just stop and start again. We'll make our date." (The movie is scheduled to open June 26, 2009.)

http://weblogs.variety.com/thompsononhollywood/2008/02/oscar-watch-bay.html#more

[Figs]

Crossing my fingers they can keep that start date. Would love to know the second live action Transformers film is being made while I watch a number of other films I've been waiting for this summer.

[millennium movies]

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[millennium movies]

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VIDEO of the cars here: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/MediaNavVideoThumbnails#0
STORY: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=121424#2

[ScarletVenom25]

The aformentioned "geriatric" bot could (or would) probably be Kup, but they could change Ultra Magnus into an older bot. And then there's always Alpha Trion. Other than that and the stated fact that Jazz is dead, there hasn't really been any news about who exactly could be in the sequel. The character models are already finished, so they already know who's gonna be in it.

But now is where the real spectulation comes into play, especially if (for whatever reason) they release the number of new bots officially. It's time to throw out the possibilites and start thinking completely realisticly. In example, I hate to say it, but due to Barricade's role in the first (and possibly this) movie, Prowl has slim chances to make it into the film. I know it's tough, but it's time to face the cold hard facts.

[Jake Cassidy]

^ I think the only new bot we can bet on is Soundwave.

[The Freak]

^ I think the only new bot we can bet on is Soundwave. If they couldn't make him work before what says they'll be able to now? I mean come on a transformer tape recorder may seem hard to make into a character for the movie but most people could easily settle on something like a army vehicle with a satellite dish on top.

[Jake Cassidy]

If they couldn't make him work before what says they'll be able to now? I mean come on a transformer tape recorder may seem hard to make into a character for the movie but most people could easily settle on something like a army vehicle with a satellite dish on top.

Blackout was supposed to be Soundwave, but they wanted to wait to do him right. I do agree that an army vehicle with a satellite dish is the best mode for him.

[Chris B]

I don't really mind the Dinobots not being included in TF2. I like them, but they weren't really high on my must see list. However, I would still like to see Grimlock and co. make an appearance down the line.

I also don't have a problem with Bay writing TF2 to some extent. It seems that it was only an outline that the writers will hammer out.

As long as TF2 has Frank Welker as the voice of Soundwave and Prowl, Wheeljack, and Mirage as new Autobots then I'm all set.

[Chris B]

In example, I hate to say it, but due to Barricade's role in the first (and possibly this) movie, Prowl has slim chances to make it into the film. I know it's tough, but it's time to face the cold hard facts.

I disagree. It wouldn't be that hard to visually distinguish the two. He'd be a different model and they could give him a different color scheme. Or Bay could go with another idea suggested and make Prowl a police SUV. The whole good cop vs. bad cop analogies that would surely come could be pretty interesting too.

Besides, the name "Prowl" is one of the most recycled names in the TF franchise, so I think it is easy seeing the character making an appearance.

[The Freak]

Blackout was supposed to be Soundwave, but they wanted to wait to do him right. I do agree that an army vehicle with a satellite dish is the best mode for him.I know but if bay wanted him to be a helicopter i can only imagine what he make him next. I know i would be super pissed if they make soundwave a tank which i could see bay actually doing.

[Chris B]

Blackout was supposed to be Soundwave

Which should've been kept, IMO.

[WarBlade]

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/features/general/transformers.cars.and.trucks/brawl.garage.500.jpg


Anyone know how old this image is? Seeing it I'm wondering about the possibility of there being a Decepticon or Autobot boat in the mix for the sequel...

Or it could be that someone in the production just needed to park their boat somewhere or maybe Bay is playing around with misinformative hints like he promised he would. :woot:

[The Freak]

Anyone know how old this image is? Seeing it I'm wondering about the possibility of there being a Decepticon or Autobot boat in the mix for the sequel...

Or it could be that someone in the production just needed to park their boat somewhere or maybe Bay is playing around with misinformative hints like he promised he would. :woot:that was from 2006/2007 when we first started getting pictures from the set and seeing vehicles

[Jake Cassidy]

I don't really mind the Dinobots not being included in TF2. I like them, but they weren't really high on my must see list. However, I would still like to see Grimlock and co. make an appearance down the line.

I also don't have a problem with Bay writing TF2 to some extent. It seems that it was only an outline that the writers will hammer out.

As long as TF2 has Frank Welker as the voice of Soundwave and Prowl, Wheeljack, and Mirage as new Autobots then I'm all set.

I'd love to see Prowl and Mirage, but I could live without Wheeljack. I just never really liked him that much.

[millennium movies]

Anyone know how old this image is? Seeing it I'm wondering about the possibility of there being a Decepticon or Autobot boat in the mix for the sequel...

Or it could be that someone in the production just needed to park their boat somewhere or maybe Bay is playing around with misinformative hints like he promised he would. :woot:

That's just a warehouse in California where they store movie cars and such.

[Avangarde]

My good old friend Avangarde, do you know where i can buy the poster with "flaming prime"?

Which one are you referring to mate?

[millennium movies]

This one:

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:-93L0HNuoNzivM:http://www.firstshowing.net/img/transformers-poster-big.jpg

[dark_b]

in the first movie they showed us that the robots can change their look.

so for the sequel i wouldnt be suprised if some robots change their look. that way you have a fresh new look and you can sell new toys.

[Jake Cassidy]

in the first movie they showed us that the robots can change their look.

so for the sequel i wouldnt be suprised if some robots change their look. that way you have a fresh new look and you can sell new toys.

I hope not. I love how they look. :yay:

[Jake Cassidy]

That's just a warehouse in California where they store movie cars and such.

Tell me exactly where it is. I wanna steal Jazz. :woot:

[millennium movies]

If i knew i'd beat you to it, probably would take either Ratchet or Optimus.

[Jake Cassidy]

If i knew i'd beat you to it, probably would take either Ratchet or Optimus.

Yes, but they won't be needing Jazz for the sequel. He won't be missed. :grin:

I'd get Ironhide too, but that thing wouldn't fit in my garage. It's bloody huge.

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=42020

LaBeouf on Transformers 2... "Massive"

Source: Empire Online (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=22008)
February 14, 2008


Empire (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=22008) magazine talked to Transformers 2 (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=37679) star Shia LaBeouf, who says he has seen a lot for the sequel already and knows that there will be new robots on both sides of the battle. Here's a clip:

"I know of a few things I have to work on for the next one," said LaBeouf. "I've seen pre-vizes of the action scenes and I just saw Michael yesterday. It's going to be bad-ass. We're not making another one unless it is, and Mike is definitely not resting on his laurels — he's doing insane ***** again. And the pre-vizes that I've seen… it's just massive.

You can read the full interview here (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=22008)! DreamWorks/Paramount is planning a June 26, 2009 release date.

[Figs]

Can't wait! I'm just curious as to which new Transformers they picked and if Megatron will be returning or not.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^I cant see Meg's not returning, he has always been the main antagonist of the series.

[Avangarde]

This one:

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:-93L0HNuoNzivM:http://www.firstshowing.net/img/transformers-poster-big.jpg

Ebay if anything, there is a chance that one of your local cinema could have one floating around, sorry man.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=42020

LaBeouf on Transformers 2... "Massive"

Source: Empire Online (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=22008)
February 14, 2008


Empire (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=22008) magazine talked to Transformers 2 (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=37679) star Shia LaBeouf, who says he has seen a lot for the sequel already and knows that there will be new robots on both sides of the battle. Here's a clip:

"I know of a few things I have to work on for the next one," said LaBeouf. "I've seen pre-vizes of the action scenes and I just saw Michael yesterday. It's going to be bad-ass. We're not making another one unless it is, and Mike is definitely not resting on his laurels — he's doing insane ***** again. And the pre-vizes that I've seen… it's just massive.

You can read the full interview here (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=22008)! DreamWorks/Paramount is planning a June 26, 2009 release date.
It's only natural that it would be bigger then the first movie, but I like how Shia is excited about it.

PS. Hunter, are you going to continue to be our mod for TF2, and when do you think we will get a TF2 Spoilers/Non-Spoilers forum?

[Avangarde]

http://www.seibertron.com/news/view.php?id=12415
"Transformers Movie director Michael was present, alongside other creators who worked on the film, during a VFX Technology presentation on the Sony Movie lot. Michael Bay spoke about the upcoming Transformers Movie sequel, and how the film was prepared in case of a prolonged writers strike (which will now no longer be a cause of delay for the film, as the strike ended last night).
Of note is Bay making mention of the writers returning, and a story that will see deeper robot characters as well as a "geriatric robot" - the article also goes into great detail about the VFX work in the first film."

A geriatric robot? Kup anyone, lol :dry:

[Hunter Rider]

It's only natural that it would be bigger then the first movie, but I like how Shia is excited about it.

PS. Hunter, are you going to continue to be our mod for TF2, and when do you think we will get a TF2 Spoilers/Non-Spoilers forum?

That's one of things i like about Shia, he has an enthusiasm about what he does.

Yes I'll still be the mod for TF2 and now the strike is over and things are back on track with the film I'll talk to Mirko about rearranging this section.

[Avangarde]

That's one of things i like about Shia, he has an enthusiasm about what he does.

Yes I'll still be the mod for TF2 and now the strike is over and things are back on track with the film I'll talk to Mirko about rearranging this section.

Cheers dude, you're a champ :up:

[dark_b]

Ebay if anything, there is a chance that one of your local cinema could have one floating around, sorry man.


It's only natural that it would be bigger then the first movie, but I like how Shia is excited about it.

PS. Hunter, are you going to continue to be our mod for TF2, and when do you think we will get a TF2 Spoilers/Non-Spoilers forum?go watch an interveiw with him. please do it. you will see something funny.
he is always like that.

[Avangarde]

Yes I have seen a few of him, he is a very excitable person.

[dark_b]

which means that this news means nothing. a trailer will have to be realesed to see how this movie looks.

shia means nothing.

[ScarletVenom25]

I disagree. It wouldn't be that hard to visually distinguish the two. He'd be a different model and they could give him a different color scheme. Or Bay could go with another idea suggested and make Prowl a police SUV. The whole good cop vs. bad cop analogies that would surely come could be pretty interesting too.

Besides, the name "Prowl" is one of the most recycled names in the TF franchise, so I think it is easy seeing the character making an appearance.

I should've been more specific, what I meant was that Prowl wouldn't appearing as we know him best-as a police car. I should also point out that I support the idea of Prowl being a Police S.U.V., especially if he looks like that picture of a Chevy Tahoe that was floating around last year. Hell, I could even accept Prowl as S.W.A.T. vehicle.

While I'm at it, I think Soundwave should definately be a military vehicle, like most of the 'Cons seem to be. Lazerbeak could be a sattilite dish, and Ravage could be a spare tire (I'm basing this off another concept pic someone made of Soundwave).

Mirage could be a Formula 1 car, definately. I can see Wheeljack as...well, I can't really think of a good alt. form for him. I can see Hot Rod as a nice, souped up Caddilac (or a really nice Pontiac Firebird), and if he is the geriatric 'bot, Kup as an old Chevy pick-up. And scratch the idea of Prowl as a S.W.A.T. vehicle, I could see Ultra Magnus as that (if he doesn't happen to be a car carrier or tow-truck, like some have suggested).

One more 'Con that I would love to see on screen would be Blitzwing. He can stay as a triple-changer, and he should be the only triple-changer they bring in for the 'Cons. I know there are probably a ton of Astrotrain fans out there, but BW's alt. modes would be more common to see in a battlezone than a train and a space shuttle.

[Avangarde]

Some chatter from Orci about TF2 on the Don Murphy boards.

http://www.donmurphy.net/board/showthread.php?t=24357&page=4

[dark_b]

I hope not. I love how they look. :yay:well it would also make sense. they use those modes to hide right?

so a lot of people now saw them. using something different would again hidde them because knowone would know that its them.

[Compi716]

Why has a Transformers 2 forum not been created yet?

[millennium movies]

Because mods have forgotten those features, they are to busy using the ban/delete button lately...

[Yūgi's BM]

Modding is a difficult job and when posters are not conducive to their job things can get ugly.

[Avangarde]

Why has a Transformers 2 forum not been created yet?

I asked Hunter that, he said it'll come, just got to wait for now.

[Mal'Akai]

I should've been more specific, what I meant was that Prowl wouldn't appearing as we know him best-as a police car. I should also point out that I support the idea of Prowl being a Police S.U.V., especially if he looks like that picture of a Chevy Tahoe that was floating around last year. Hell, I could even accept Prowl as S.W.A.T. vehicle.

Your welcome.

[Avangarde]

Question: Will Starscream have more than 3 English lines in the sequel ?

Answer: Yes.

Question: If TF1 was Bumblebee and Primes movie (as far as robot stars go), who's movie would you say TF2 is going to be?

Answer: Too early to tell. Obviously, Prime will always be central, but our structure allows the freedom to have others step up. Will know more later.

Question: Will the Decepticons have any scenes to themselves like the Autobots had in the first one?

Answer: Yes.

Question: Also, Roberto, can you provide any hints as to the tone of TF2? Even with a short ouline, I'm sure there is much work to be done. I'm not horribly concerned that Mike went all Bat****-crazy during your hiatus. As egomaniacial as he seems, he also seems to know his place. Perhaps I'm wrong on that.

Answer: The tone will be similar to TF1, although I think the stakes will be higher. There will still be much humor, but I think many of the Transformers themselves will be more in line with fan expectation. More serious to some degree. Again, we're early in the process.

Bay's statements should be taken merely as confirmation of his enthusiasm and desire to make his date. He does not want anyone to lose confidence in the project.

Question: Bob, are you looking to strike the exact same tone as film 1 or will the sequel be more serious and thought-provoking? Will it be a smarter film, more science-fictionny?

Answer: More "science-fictionny." Yes.

Question: Any possibility of a TF arrivel scene similar to the first but with decepticons this time ?

And i take it there will be a mix of new and existing G1 characters for the next ?

Answer: New mix. Yes. No comment on Decepticon arrivals!

Question: Also Bob i would like to add, are we gonna see more of Cybertron in this one ?

Just in flashbacks or will it take place in present time ?

Anwer: No comment on Cybertron.

Question: My major problem with "Transformers" were the humans. Most of them acted like they were on a mix of speed, ecstacy and too much coffee. Their behaviour was IMO way over the top, almost like highly exaggerated comic-book caricatures. I think it wasn't so much due to the writing, but more due to the direction they were given by Michael Bay.

Was it your intention to write the human characters (Sam, Sam's parents, Simmons, the cop guy in the police station) in such an exaggerated, over-the-top way or did that evolve during filming and are there any plans to tone the humans down a little for the sequel to make them appear more ... normal and not so over-caffeinated?

Answer: We'll have to take some of the blame for that. We pitched Sam as "Marty McFly on crack." And Simmon's is pretty much the way he read on the page. But I agree that it went even further than it should've, and editing could've helped that a bit. As I've said before, tone on TF1 was the absolutely hardest thing to crack. Hopefully, we'll be better at modulating this time.

Question: Roberto could you tell us about the cooperation sofar? You know, you had a way to write with alex, how did it change with Ethan? Or was it he, who conformed himself to you?

Answer: We'd worked with Ehren before, so we knew his personality would be a good fit for "the band." We agreed to split up scenes and then pass them around to each other to make our own tweaks without anyone's feelings getting hurt -- one big jam session after which we'll hopefully have an album called TF2.

Question: Roberto, cheers for answering my first question. Predictably, I have another. Does Bumblebee talk all the time now, or does he still have issues with his voice box?

Answer: Minds not made up yet.

Question: Also about the humor and jokes in the next one, any chance of making them alittle "smarter" ?

Some of the jokes in the first is okay in a American Pie type movie but not in Transformers in my honest opinion.

Answer: Don't know how the humor will turn out yet. We have to find it. But we know it has to come from whatever situation Sam finds himself in. Any similarities to American Pie were the result of our character being in a similar situation (age, high school, etc.).

Question: Any idea what they're doing with those old S7 sites? They could be used in another viral game for TF2, or (more preferably) they could be taken offline.

Answer: No idea.

Question: Hey Roberto, Hasbro said at Toy Fair that they've been working with Paramount on designs for TF2 for weeks now, and Bay has indicated several times that they're well on their way with the robot designs. I'm just curious if you're getting kept in that loop, and if you get to comment along the way, or if they're keeping all of that amongst themselves. It doesn' so much matter for new characters, but for those based on past incarnations it'd be great if there were parties involved to assure they get "the Prime treatment", so to speak. Maybe Hasbro's more hands-on this go-around? Thanks!

Answer: As a result of the strike, we were not able to comment on anything that was going on within the production. As a result, Hasbro has been MUCH MORE involved. However, we had a ton of character and development conversations with them before the strike (going all the way back to before the movie's release). So we've had our input and Hasbro in general knew where we were going with the story. During the strike, some dates had to be met in order to assure all the designs would be ready for multiple purposes, and it now seems that is where Bay and Hasbro spent most of their efforts. Doesn't mean we can't lose or add characters, but it probably means our core group is somewhat locked.

Luckily, the folks at Hasbro are truly great people and their collaboration with Bay has probably kept this movie on track.

Question: Bay was quoted as saying that there would be some new/different "species" of Transformers. What do you think he meant by that?

Answer: No comment! But they're in the outline, so don't worry.

You can also probably guess what he means in his non-fan way.

Question: So when you guys are working on the outline...do you work on it from beginning to end? Or do the three of you figure out big spots that you want to have and go back and fill in the holes? What I mean by that are huge set peices, stunts or moments that you want to accent on screen. Im sure Bay has plenty of spots that he'd like to do and that would only add to the collaboration. How is that process completed?

Answer: Well, normally we don't hand over outlines. Normally we do those for ourselves and then hand in a script. Thanks to the strike, we felt it was only fair to give them a snap shot of where we were going so they could plan from a treatment. So naturally, a treatment is not a script, and there are many things that need to be filled in at script. Knowing where we were going, and what we intended the major set pieces to be, Bay could start to plan how he would attack some of the action.

Question: Is it safe to assume there are a bunch of new robots designed for the transformers movie, but have no name as of yet, or are subject to change?

Answer: Safe indeed.

Question: Roberto without going into details, how many parallel storylines do you think you might have running in this movie?

Answer: Story lines in this movie should be more organically interconnected in that TF1 had the structure of 3 story lines coming together at Hoover. TF2 will have a different structure.

Question: Roberto, I just wanted to know what comes first: The design of the Transformers then the names, or names first, then their design.

Answer: No hard and fast rules, and almost impossible to remember as it's a case by case basis.

Question: Will there be more emphasis on new transformer/s? Or will characters such as Bumblebee still be the main focus?

Answer: Just started playing around, but the short answer is both.

Question: So Roberto, what would the time estimate for the final script be? A couple weeks? A month? A couple months?

Answer: THE FINAL? The day before shooting.

A first draft? who knows -- everyone needed it last month, but we're contractually accorded 10-12 weeks or so for the first draft.

Question: can changes be made DURING shooting if Bay or someone else demands

Answer: Yes. We're usually the ones demanding it.

http://www.seibertron.com/news/view.php?id=12448

Some promising new info there from Orci :up:

[Golgo-13]

Wow, sounds pretty good. Lets hope that the actors don't decided to strike, as rumored.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

That's one of things i like about Shia, he has an enthusiasm about what he does.
Yes I'll still be the mod for TF2 and now the strike is over and things are back on track with the film I'll talk to Mirko about rearranging this section.

I've gotta be honest, before TF, i found him funny, but didnt think he could act, in TF he completely proved me wrong, and in TF2 i hope he proves me wrong even more.

http://www.seibertron.com/news/view.php?id=12448

Some promising new info there from Orci :up:

Some great info, without anything being spoiled also, sounds like there will be a TON of new robots, wonder what the budget will be?

I still have concerns over some things being rushed though.

[Dr Lee]

would anyone mind if the did indeed push back the release date?

[Golgo-13]

I don't think there's any need too. The strike, as long as it felt, only lasted a few months.

[Yūgi's BM]

Coming soon in TF2: Sam teaches the Autobots rock, paper, scissors![/joking]

[Avangarde]

ehh I could think of worse.

[Ratcrawler]

Question: My major problem with "Transformers" were the humans. Most of them acted like they were on a mix of speed, ecstacy and too much coffee. Their behaviour was IMO way over the top, almost like highly exaggerated comic-book caricatures. I think it wasn't so much due to the writing, but more due to the direction they were given by Michael Bay.

Was it your intention to write the human characters (Sam, Sam's parents, Simmons, the cop guy in the police station) in such an exaggerated, over-the-top way or did that evolve during filming and are there any plans to tone the humans down a little for the sequel to make them appear more ... normal and not so over-caffeinated?

I cannot really agree with that. I enjoyed the delightful quirks. They were the complete antithesis of the incredibly boring humans in Burton's Planet of the Apes. It reminded me of Invader Zim where 99.9% of humans were idiots. Plus, in the eyes of giant robots, that's probably how we would come off. Marty McFly on crack.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

would anyone mind if the did indeed push back the release date?

If it meant for a better movie, i wouldnt mind it all, but as Goglo said, it might not be necessary. We'll see.

I cannot really agree with that. I enjoyed the delightful quirks. They were the complete antithesis of the incredibly boring humans in Burton's Planet of the Apes. It reminded me of Invader Zim where 99.9% of humans were idiots. Plus, in the eyes of giant robots, that's probably how we would come off. Marty McFly on crack.

I dont think Bannercheck, Mikaela, Keller, Lennox or Epps seemed eccentric, at least not until they saw the robots up close and who wouldnt freak out a bit at that.

[Avangarde]

News!

Rachel Taylor will not be in Transformers 2.

http://www.seibertron.com/news/view.php?id=12490

[Lunar_Wolf]

News!

Rachel Taylor will not be in Transformers 2.

http://www.seibertron.com/news/view.php?id=12490
AH good news, one less female character to get in the way.

[Jake Cassidy]

AH good news, one less female character to get in the way.

You don't like females, do you? :oldrazz:

[Avangarde]

AH good news, one less female character to get in the way.

More like one less human to get in the way :whatever:

[Lunar_Wolf]

More like one less human to get in the way :whatever:

You don't like females, do you? :oldrazz:
All I wanna see is Fox:bow:

Taylors character bored me. If I want to stare at her I would look at pictures of her on the net:cwink:

[Golgo-13]

From the SHH front page:

Transformers 2 and Justice League Filming Updates
February 28, 2008

Variety has published an in-depth article talking about how a posssible Screen Actors Guild (SAG) strike could affect movie productions starting soon. The trade says Hollywood studios are refusing to schedule new start dates on films that can't complete shooting by June 30.

Transformers 2 director Michael Bay said the labor cloud has made the process harder, but not impossible as he tries to keep the film on track for an early June start in order to make its scheduled June 26, 2009 release date.

"If there is a strike, we shut down, but shutting down isn't that big a deal," Bay told the trade. "You make accommodations, you make a deal with vending houses on equipment and on the stages where you are shooting. You hope for the best, but you can't be incapacitated by the possibility that there will be a strike. We've got to get this town back to work. I can't imagine anyone wants another strike, we're all tired. Hopefully clearer heads will prevail."

Bay said that the sequel is still recovering from the writers strike, and that he's playing catch-up after getting back his trio of writers, Ehren Kruger, Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci.

"They did a detailed outline before the writer's strike, and now they are in Michael Bay jail, holed up in a hotel and working feverishly," Bay said. "We're paying for a beautiful suite and they are getting a lot of work done. Hiring three writers was unusual, but it has been a godsend in getting us to where we need to be. Somehow you find a way to get it done."

If it's not one ****ing thing, it's the other. :cmad:

[Golgo-13]

I am thinking Mikaela will bond with her own robot. Maybe even a Decepticon like Jetfire or Thundercracker, who are unsure of their allegiances.

Also, Rachel Taylor indicated she won't come back:

http://www.seibertron.com/news/view.php?id=12490

Won't or is not wanted back?

[Raiden]

From the SHH front page:



If it's not one ****ing thing, it's the other. :cmad:

I'm cautiously optimistic about the SAG strike. I think Hollywood will try to avert another lengthy strike, and since SAG has said they wanted what WAG got I think the major studios may just give them that. I doubt after having a 3month strike, Hollywood would want to start another.

[Raiden]

Won't or is not wanted back?

Rachel's character has ran its course, evident by the fact that after her character cracked the code in TF, she then had nothing better to do except barricading herself and others from Frenzy. And less human the better it is (plus we have Fox for the eye candy; we don't need another).

[RonStoppablefan]

Gosh I hope we don't go down the freakin actors strike, the Hollywood people can't be that stupid could they? They lost tons of freakin money in the last one, why would they risk it agian?

[The Chibi Kiriyama]

That's Hollywood for you; what's obvious to the rest of the world isn't obvious to them.

[Golgo-13]

From the SHH front page.

Transformers 2 to Film in Philadelphia?
Source: Main Line Today March 4, 2008

Main Line Today posted the following in February about projects that may film in Philadelphia:

"The film industry is [an] increasingly lucrative [thing] for government to em-brace," says Pinkenson. "We already have a reputation as the most cooperative and film-friendly city in the business. Having these tax incentives adds to our attraction. Right now, we’re looking at applications for six to eight films to begin in June, and more to follow."

The not-so-top-secret list includes Remorse, Three Sistas, Shyamalan’s Avatar series, a film based on Marley and Me and possibly Transformers 2. The GPFO website (film.org) is a good gauge of its commitment to making filmmaking a collective experience while enhancing Philly’s reputation as a movie-friendly city with manageable amounts of red tape. "How to" services are offered free of charge and cover everything from hiring a police officer to getting a street closed. There are numerous resources, including screenwriting contests, a job hotline and profiles spotlighting the city’s filmmakers.

Interesting, stay tuned. Transformers 2 is scheduled for a June 26, 2009 release.

[Avangarde]

It was also reported that Washington DC is on the locations list for TF2.

[Golgo-13]

DC? Wow, maybe I can be an extra! :up:

[Jake Cassidy]

DC? Wow, maybe I can be an extra! :up:

Maybe you could be the guy stood on by Megatron. How cool would that be?

[Golgo-13]

Maybe you could be the guy stood on by Megatron. How cool would that be?

:whatever:
:cmad:

[Jake Cassidy]

:whatever:
:cmad:

Why are you angry? If it was me, I'd think it'd be hilarious.

[Avangarde]

"Lord Megatron, it would be an honor if you stepped on me."

[Avangarde]

http://www.seibertron.com/news/view.php?id=12563

Bay is in Egypt now scouting locations for TF2, I'd like to think that Scorpinok could be in this area.

[Dr Lee]

thats interesting.....It's good that they've apparently not forgotten that one is still wandering around

[Avangarde]

Well I can't be sure that it would even involve Scorpy, hell it's not even confirmed that he will use Egypt as a location, however I figured that because Scorpinok was last seen in the Middle East he could have made his way over to Egypt. If Bay was smart he would use Scorps in a plot to discover oil fields which the Decepticons could refine into a new energy source, therefore leading a new invasion of Earth.

[WarBlade]

Egypt... If it was Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates etc. I'd be thinking about oil resources, but Egypt? I immediately start thinking about tangled plot ideas involving a stasis locked transformer entombed under a pyramid after being treated as one of the god kings thousands of years ago.

As much as any desert arid area can be dressed to look like a number of places with oil connections I can't see that taking on all the trouble of filming in Egypt would be for oil resource reasons.

[Avangarde]

Actually I didn't refer the Oil Field idea to Egypt but rather just an idea of where the plot could go.

[Avangarde]

Some more news just in.

Comics2film.com has reported that Michigan has now also been scouted as a possible location for Transformers 2. According to the site, the Michigan Film Advisory Commission said that six new scripts, including Transformers 2, have been submitted to them in the last four weeks, with budgets ranging from $1.5 million to $40 million. Parts of the first movie was also shot in Detroit. Detroit is also the location where the main office of the General Motors Corporation is located.

http://www.seibertron.com/news/view.php?id=12578

Also-

Transformers Movie director Michael Bay's official website has been updated with a countdown clock, similar to the one once gracing the front page of Seibertron.com, counting down the days, hours, minutes and seconds until the next instalment in the live-action Transformers Movie franchise.

It seems that the countdown clock is not visible on Internet Explorer 7 - but can be seen using other web browser such as Firefox.

As of this post, there remains 469 days 5 hours and 32 minutes until the release of the Transformers Movie sequel, scheduled for a June 26th 2009 release.

http://www.seibertron.com/news/view.php?id=12579

[dark_b]

you think this movie will be rushed?or will they have enough time?

[Avangarde]

Plenty of time still, just remember Bay has been preparing this movie for a while now and it still wont be out for another 15 months so I think they are safe.

[RonStoppablefan]

Cool to know the gang will be traveling around in different places. I can't wait for the second film.

[Golgo-13]

http://www.seibertron.com/news/view.php?id=12563

Bay is in Egypt now scouting locations for TF2, I'd like to think that Scorpinok could be in this area.

Like i posted in another thread, G1 'Mirage' has an Egyptian like face, so this could be where he lands, and scans his earth features/mode....

[dark_b]

where will they fight at the end?
if they will again fight in the city it will look to similar.
but a desert is to empty.

[Chris B]

Like i posted in another thread, G1 'Mirage' has an Egyptian like face, so this could be where he lands, and scans his earth features/mode....

I think if those reports are accurate, it may go a bit deeper than that.

[RonStoppablefan]

I like the idea of them fighting in the desert. Course I'd love it if they fought in Paris maybe. I could see Prime and Megatron fighting on the tower LOL.

[Avangarde]

Ugh, city has been done, dessert is to boring, perhaps some smaller town with plenty of trees and a body of water in the surrounding area would suffice. Give the bots some nature to rip up and mack a mess of things.

[Avangarde]

Anyone read this yet? It's from IMDB so it should be taken with a grain of salt, but I'd like to know what their source was.

"The battle for Earth has ended but the battle for the universe has just begun. After returning to Cybertron, Starscream assumes command of the Decepticons, and has decided to return to Earth with force. The Autobots believing that peace was possible finds out that Megatron's dead body has been stolen from the US Military by Scorponok and revives him using his own spark. Now Megatron is back seeking revenge and with Starscream and more Decepticon reinforcements on the way, the Autobots with reinforcements of their own, may have more to deal with then meets the eye."

[Golgo-13]

Read that a while back.

[brimstone_halo]

but don't they show megatrons body being dumped at sea, how would scorponok steal his body from the military

[Dr Lee]

thats what ruins that idea for me. you saw the mutilated remains being dumped, so unless skorpy can get that far under then that synopsis is a load of.....

[Avangarde]

They wouldn't be stupid enough to screw something like that up, maybe the government fished his body out to do secret research on it, Scorponok gets wind of it and tracks down Megatrons body (this is me clutching at straws here btw).

[RonStoppablefan]

Some one on the IMB forums said Bay would be leaking out fake info so yes I wouldn't trust that stuff just yet. Ask for how they'd get past the military, well I could think of one way. Maybe there's a hidden minor of Megatron and was spying on it, that's all I could come up with here. Don't mind me if it didn't make sense, I was just throwing things in the air LOL.

[Avangarde]

Yes I am well aware of that, but if that was an attempt at misleading people on Bay's behalf then that was seriously pathetic.

[Golgo-13]

Shia's been in the news alot later. A few days ago, i saw that there was a warrant for his arrest. :csad: Sad, how fame tends to make ppl act-out.

[Dr Lee]

what??????????

When was that? what was that about?

[Golgo-13]

what??????????

When was that? what was that about?

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/celebrity/Shia+LaBeouf-20150.html

[Lunar_Wolf]

The dude was only smoking in a public place, not like he was sniffing cocaine of hookers asses.

[Jake Cassidy]

The dude was only smoking in a public place, not like he was sniffing cocaine of hookers asses.

It'd make him a lot cooler if he did. :woot:

[omid17]

Shia is going to be a rich kid, he's signed for 2 more Transformer films and he's in indiana jones 4 all those movies are going to make a gang load of money

[Golgo-13]

That doesn't mean he'll make alot of money. Colin Farrell, for example, is broke right now;just a few years back he was the 'it boy' of Hollywood. Only if Shia and his ppl negotiated good deals, then he'll be rich.

[knowsbleed]

Shia seems like a lot more level headed kid than Colin Farrell though. He's making some very good moves in the industry right now. I picture him widening his acting to drama in the future.

[Mal'Akai]

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/celebrity/Shia+LaBeouf-20150.html
When young actors start smoking, I always wonder if it was one of their older co-stars that got them started. Like maybe Shia bummed his first smoke off Keanu or something.

[WarBlade]

I've been on quite a few film sets and I can safely say that there are no shortage of cigarettes among film crews.

[Mal'Akai]

I've been on quite a few film sets and I can safely say that there are no shortage of cigarettes among film crews.
I take it a lot more actors and actresses smoke then we know about, huh?

[Compi716]

Oh, yeah. EVERYBODY (at least the young people) smokes on the set. It's a bit sickening, to be honest. What did all those anti-smoking classes since second grade teach them?

[Kargo Warrior]

Barricade pictures!

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/transformers-2-filming-underway-barricade-spotted.php

[Avangarde]

Wow filming so soon, thats great. I guess this could be considered the first confirmed transformer for TF2, Barricade :up:

[The Chibi Kiriyama]

Hmm...this feels rushed. I hope the script is solid enough that it warrants the impatience to get it filmed.

[Avangarde]

lolz at your sig

[Golgo-13]

Transformers 2 Barricade(s) Spotted
Source: Derek March 28, 2008

Film School Rejects was sent a few photos of three Saleens with the Barricade decals being towed around in Culver City. Is Michael Bay getting ready to start shooting the Transformers sequel already? You can view more pics by clicking the photo below.


http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s42/indirav1/transformersmustang3.jpg

Barricade spotted!

[Arcturus]

Barricade returns?!

Awesome!

:trans:

[Alex The Great]

Filming already? sweet.
god i hoipe the robos are as good as they were in TF1

[millennium movies]

More spotted! :eek:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2289/2361841606_1030af31ed_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3122/2361010203_545709a339_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3150/2361010175_c0811df92e_o.jpg

Uploaded on March 25th by the user
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mindseyemirror/2361010175/

[Dr Lee]

Either they are starting the prep for filming or Bay and Co are really trying to mess with our heads this time round.

If it's the former then we now know that at least Ironhide and Ratchet have the same forms as the first movie

[millennium movies]

I just loveeee Ratchet, i hope he gets a lot more screentime this time around, and for the love of god, please keep the alive at least for the trilogy! I hope Bay lied and Jazz is back.

[Dr Lee]

where'd u get the pics from MM?

[millennium movies]

Oh...i just noticed i missed the link! Edit in the original post^

[DorkyFresh]

cool i guess, though i don't think this means anything. probably just transporting the vehicles in prep for whenever they DO need them.

[millennium movies]

I'm really hoping this means they are prepping stunts and probably getting the cars back in top shape for the action shots that will be called upon them. I really hoped we had a shot in the first movie where all the Autobots drove through the desert all aligned, one next to the other and we see the shot from far with them shinning in the distance above the horizon. There's a shot like that on one of the comic book covers i think.

[Dr Lee]

It'll be interesting to see if any new vehicles appear on one of these low loader trucks.

Might be an indication of new characters. *Starts looking for a pink bike on a truck*

[millennium movies]

Exactly although im worried now that they might put some covers over the cars, specially the new ones since people are onto them.

[Dr Lee]

Don't think that'll work though. Someone, somewhere will just trawl the web looking for any shillouets... damn my spelling..... that match up to the tarped cars. Also only covering the new cars would attrat more attention to them than no covering them, imho

[knowsbleed]

MM always has good scoops. Kudos to him for providing so much info on the last movie.

[millennium movies]

Thanks knowsbleed! I'm digging around the web to try and find more pictures/info/proof of activity. So far i noticed that BB Camaro was at the NY auto show this year. I saw some pictures dating around the 20th of march. Now i assume if something is truly going on we might spot the Camaro in or around LA sometimes soon. Unless there's an airport close to the location the are sending the cars at and they dont need to transport it by truck. Should be interesting to say the least. So far no pink motorcycle or grey Pontiac Solstice.

[The Freak]

Hopefully we'll start seeing some new vehicles with some older ones. I'm guesssing however that if we do see new vehicles that are not tarped then I'd say its safe to assume that that car is being used to throw us off.

[DorkyFresh]

MM always has good scoops. Kudos to him for providing so much info on the last movie.
here here. a true testament for his love of all things TF.

[omid17]

great pics, thanks

[millennium movies]

So far no luck in finding more pictures...yet.