Tron Legacy

[dark_b]

Tron is an imax movie?

[Kane52630]

apparently people saw the trailer in Full IMAX when they show the tron verse

[Kane52630]

CraveOnline just failed EPICALLY. They have a video up that has what they claim to be the official Daft Punk Tron Legacy theme music. Well, I just sent them an email saying that, after much research on youtube, it's a fake. It's just another f-ing remix! I asked them to please either retitle the video properly or take it down as to avoid confusion.

Here's the video in question:

http://www.craveonline.com/entertainment/music/video/daft-punk-tron-legacy-theme-175171

I dont know, it sounds official to me.

[MOVIELORD101]

I dont know, it sounds official to me.

it's not. Here's what it sounded like at SDCC last year:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyUwb6rvBbs&feature=related

It's completely different that the one in CO's video, which is nothing more than a mish-mash of the "Crystal Luv" remix and someone else's remix.

[Sentinel X]

is it possible for a Tron promo to look bad? Is it possible to divide by zero? :cwink:

[Monsieur Xavier]

Is it possible to divide by zero? :cwink:

Yes it is.

PS : I am not saying that it means that a Tron promo can be bad :)

[GREEN =w= DAY]

thought you guys might be intersted in knowing that all around downtown San Diego there are banners hanging from lightposts promoting Comic Con as well as Tron; pretty cool

[Donut]

Question will we be able to play this game using a standard 360 controller ? & does this game have anything to do with the movies or is it its own story ?

[ttotheusher]

Question will we be able to play this game using a standard 360 controller ? & does this game have anything to do with the movies or is it its own story ?

This article states it's a prequel;

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/06/21/preview-tron-evolution-the-video-game/

I might pick it up if it's cheap enough.

[MOVIELORD101]

Just as a heads-up guys, keep an eye on this site. All signs point to a new trailer being revealed at 2:30 PM EST this Thursday!

http://www.flynnlives.com/identityraid/

[TheWiseGuy487]

Just as a heads-up guys, keep an eye on this site. All signs point to a new trailer being revealed at 2:30 PM EST this Thursday!

http://www.flynnlives.com/identityraid/

Really??? :wow:

If that's so, I can't wait!!! :woot:

[dark_b]

i dont think it will be a new trailer. mayb a poster or a game?

[Wolfwood]

Yeah I don't think we'll get a trailer, well maybe...It'll be a new puzzle to solve though, that's for sure.

[MOVIELORD101]

i dont think it will be a new trailer. mayb a poster or a game?

Uhhh, THIS WEBSITE begs to differ:

http://entertainment.ie/cinema/news/Exclusive-Tron-Legacy-Trailer-On-The-Way/46843.htm

[Kane52630]

new pic that was "data leaked" for SD ComicCon according to their FB

http://i30.tinypic.com/ftlwuc.jpg

[MOVIELORD101]

new pic that was "data leaked" for SD ComicCon according to their FB

http://i30.tinypic.com/ftlwuc.jpg

So. Freaking. Awesome. *drools like Homer Simpson*

[Hunter Rider]

That is very cool.

[MOVIELORD101]

That is very cool.

HIGHLY agree!

[Dark Victory]

Cool pic. It looks more like concept art than an actual still from the movie, but I bet it looks good in motion. I really hope this film doesn't go overboard with the shallow focus and lens flare techniques.

[Kane52630]

from what Ive heard is that pic is actually a still from the trailer that might be released at comiccon this thursday

[Dark Victory]

from what Ive heard is that pic is actually a still from the trailer that might be released at comiccon this thursday

Yeah, I guessed that the pic was from the new trailer. Hopefully, it'll be online sometime next week..

[Rocker22]

Just as a heads-up guys, keep an eye on this site. All signs point to a new trailer being revealed at 2:30 PM EST this Thursday!

http://www.flynnlives.com/identityraid/

It counts down to the comic con panel.

[Monsieur Xavier]

Just as a heads-up guys, keep an eye on this site. All signs point to a new trailer being revealed at 2:30 PM EST this Thursday!

http://www.flynnlives.com/identityraid/

Hi,

how / where did you find the link ? I am registered to Flynnlive web site and didn't find any. Was it posted on a social network ( tweeter facebook ) ?

[T'Jai]

that's a pic of the Character played by Anis Cheurfa (http://www.facebook.com/pages/ANIS-CHEURFA-Official-Page/119120011455881?ref=ts) one of the best trickers (fancy martial arts moves) in the world...

[Monsieur Xavier]

new pic that was "data leaked" for SD ComicCon according to their FB

http://i30.tinypic.com/ftlwuc.jpg


He has Tron logo on his chest !

[MOVIELORD101]

He has Tron logo on his chest !

AHA! So it is! How did I not notice that? Then this most likely means that this mysterious program is, in fact

none other than Tron himself. But this begs the question as to why Tron would turn to the dark side like that? Maybe the fact that Yori's not in this film may have something to do with it....:csad: Hopefully, either the prequel graphic novel and/or the Tron: Evolution game can elaborate on this mystery...

Anyway, I'll be here right when the timer on the /identityraid website hits zero and I'll post what we get as soon as it's up! See you guys then!:woot:

[Monsieur Xavier]

AHA! So it is! How did I not notice that? Then this most likely means that this mysterious program is, in fact

none other than Tron himself. But this begs the question as to why Tron would turn to the dark side like that? Maybe the fact that Yori's not in this film may have something to do with it....:csad: Hopefully, either the prequel graphic novel and/or the Tron: Evolution game can elaborate on this mystery...

Anyway, I'll be here right when the timer on the /identityraid website hits zero and I'll post what we get as soon as it's up! See you guys then!:woot:

Let's say our assumption is true and he is fact Tron, maybe he infiltrated the "red" faction for Flynn benefits or it is just a nod to first movie. I am really curious if we will indeed see Tron or not.

[MOVIELORD101]

Let's say our assumption is true and he is fact Tron, maybe he infiltrated the "red" faction for Flynn benefits or it is just a nod to first movie. I am really curious if we will indeed see Tron or not.

Kosinski and Lisberger confirmed months ago that Tron IS in the movie, although how big of a role he'll have remains a mystery as well.

[Monsieur Xavier]

^
Awesome ! I didn't know that thanks.

[Electrofarce]

Here's a little something :awesome:

0MP_G6arpVI

[Brian Braddock]

Judging by this thread I think it's safe to say that, as sequels go, this movie is not just hitting all the right buttons, but actually creating entirely different, new and exciting ones.

[Monsieur Xavier]

Here's a little something :awesome:

0MP_G6arpVI

Nice, their other songs are funny too, totaly geeky !

[Doctor Jones]

This film has the possibility of topping the first. The first is good and the story is good, but I think it's not hard to top it.

[Sentinel X]

Yes it is.

PS : I am not saying that it means that a Tron promo can be bad :) No you can't. Well you "can", you're just going to get undefined.

but hey we agree on one thing :yay:

new pic that was "data leaked" for SD ComicCon according to their FB

http://i30.tinypic.com/ftlwuc.jpg
So cool. The lightcycles are possibly the coolest vehicles ever put on film. It seems like the trailer also got a positive reaction when I saw it with inception.

[Webhead2006]

cool new photos.

[Nivek]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/Nivekian/_12797632782786.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/Nivekian/_1279762569.jpg

Cinemablend images from Comic Con (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Comic-Con-Photo-Highlights-From-The-Exhibit-Hall-19723.html?tid=3087)

[jacobed]

Jeff Bridges looks bad ass holding onto the disc

[Webhead2006]

very cool

[Doc Ock]

Jeff Bridges looks bad ass holding onto the disc

Jeff Bridges always looks like that. :hehe:

[Electrofarce]

SO when will we see a new trailer? I swear someone said tommorow....

[kickass]

so when will we see a new trailer? I swear someone said tommorow....


who?!

[Figs]

Jeff Bridges looks bad ass holding onto the disc

Reminds me of some kind of Tron Obi-Wan Kenobi. :awesome:

[Kane52630]

SO when will we see a new trailer? I swear someone said tommorow....

who?!

This.

Just as a heads-up guys, keep an eye on this site. All signs point to a new trailer being revealed at 2:30 PM EST this Thursday!

http://www.flynnlives.com/identityraid/

[xstrychnine]

man, I hope they pull out the stops at FanExpo Toronto this year, something a little more close to home.

[Kane52630]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Flynn-Lives/352179445209

Flynn Lives FB profile and it has several pics


some more SD ComicCon pics

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/4923/comicconfloor2010072118.jpg

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/428/comicconfloor2010072120.jpg

[Brian Braddock]

Common sense would suggest that they must've used the same de-aging fx on Bruce Boxleitner as they've used for Bridges.

I wonder if we're gonna get an image at some point of yuo-know-who or if its going to be a surprise for the movie?

[dark_b]

6 hours until hte trailer or 6 hours until a new poster?

you have to admit that if they would realese a trailer it would be out with some big summer movies.

[Electrofarce]

WHy isn't this thread MORE ACTIVE!?!?! WE COULD BE GETTING A TRAILER IN 45 MINS! :woot:

[Kane52630]

WHy isn't this thread MORE ACTIVE!?!?! WE COULD BE GETTING A TRAILER IN 45 MINS! :woot:

I know, but im already at work so I can only see the trailer (if indeed it is a trailer) but cant hear it :(

this was sent 24 hrs ago via twitter

Kevin Flynn has been missing for 21 years, but you never gave up hope. Your commitment will pay off soon enough.

[Spidey220987]

WHy isn't this thread MORE ACTIVE!?!?! WE COULD BE GETTING A TRAILER IN 45 MINS! :woot:

I can't wait, I've got the page loaded up right now!
Another 17 minutes (as of now)

[Aesop Rocks]

Live coverage here: http://www.movieviral.com/2010/07/22/live-blog-tron-legacy-panel/#more-15349

[That-Guy]

Man, I hope we get a new trailer today. I've watched the first one (and the comic con test footage sequence) WAY too many times. I need something new.

[Spidey220987]

The FlynnLives site keeps saying sequence incorrect, access denied :huh:

[Kane52630]

http://www.flynnlives.com/identityraid/

The FlynnLives site keeps saying sequence incorrect, access denied :huh:

but if you click on the sides, it shows up a flicker page and a pic of a program code

http://www.flynnlives.com/identityraid/mailstream/default.htm

http://www.flickr.com/photos/programundefined/4817376892/

[Nivek]

I see grainy pics, but that's it, no trailer...

[Electrofarce]

You have to click and pull on the discs where the time was to get the sequence...haven't gotten it yet

[Kane52630]

here's the grainy pics

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4123/4817377064_5fb443fa6a.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4141/4817376986_abb6c1c907.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4075/4817376868_c6bdfd797a.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4097/4816753939_6d89f785ca.jpg

[Kane52630]

edit

[rashad]

:wow: Olivia! The goddess!

[Kane52630]

yeah its a code to unlock and then you get to see the trailer

[Nivek]

What the hell? How are you supposed to figure out this sequence?

[Electrofarce]

I think if we figure out the sequence w/ the discs we get the trailer....eeeerrrrr:cmad:

[dark_b]

holly s.....
http://i32.tinypic.com/24gvwpc.jpg

[Aesop Rocks]

LIVE COVERAGE FROM THE TRON LEGACY PANEL!!

http://www.movieviral.com/2010/07/22/live-blog-tron-legacy-panel/#more-15349

[Spidey220987]

Yeah, I clicked those squares first of all, and got the pics and that code, but the button in the middle kept saying acces denied lol.

Oh well, I'll bide my time for the meanwhile until someone cracks it...and is kind enough to post the answer for all to see lol

[Kane52630]

What the hell? How are you supposed to figure out this sequence?

I think if we figure out the sequence w/ the discs we get the trailer....eeeerrrrr:cmad:

well, is there anyone who is in Computer Science?

if so, then take a look at this

http://www.flynnlives.com/identityraid/mailstream/default.htm

[dark_b]

someone will find a way. if you dont figure it out then the studio helps the fans .
those games are meant to give you something.

[Electrofarce]

I'm just spinning 'em randomly. God, this is frustrating

[Kane52630]

yeah people on the tron fan site are talking about it
http://www.tron-sector.com/forums/default.aspx?do=top&id=372604&pg=74

it looks like you have to rotate the discs to unlock it

[dark_b]

i would never find out that you have to rotate them.

thank god for the internet fans

[dark_b]

trailer
http://movies.yahoo.com/TRONLegacyRevealed

[Kane52630]

Guess What, didnt crack the code? Well I say F*** IT!!!!

http://movies.yahoo.com/TRONLegacyRevealed

BAM! :woot:

[Orb]

Looks like its been sloved.

[Electrofarce]

trailer
http://movies.yahoo.com/TRONLegacyRevealed

MOTHER OF GOD! THIS CAN"T BE 150 MIL?!?!?

JEFF BRIDGES LOOKS INCREDIBL:E!:wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wo w:

[MOVIELORD101]

I just creamed...

[Nivek]

Awesome!!!!

[Spidey220987]

trailer
http://movies.yahoo.com/TRONLegacyRevealed

Awesome trailer

[Octoberist]

Young Jeff Bridges' face looks really good though weird. You can tell it's been 'enhanced' by CGi.

[rashad]

Amazing!!!

[Kane52630]

Young Jeff Bridges' face looks really good though weird. You can tell it's been 'enhanced' by CGi.

BULLS*** BULLS***

lol

[Octoberist]

i love the Overall CGI. One of the few movies I've seen recently where the CGI looks like there's weight and style to it.

[Octoberist]

BULLS*** BULLS***

lol

I love Young Jeff. I think it's weird at first because we're so used to old Jess these days that it's surreal. It's like if they had a Young Harrison Ford in a movie.

[Rezzo]

HD Theatrical trailer

480p (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sdm=web&pt=rd&sid=111401731)

720p (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sdm=web&pt=rd&sid=111401733)

1080p (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sdm=web&pt=rd&sid=111401738)

[Sawyer]

That trailer was ****ing EPIC!!!

[Electrofarce]

Save link?

[That-Guy]

Wow, that was amazing! I can't wait for this!

[Rezzo]

HD Theatrical trailer

480p (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sdm=web&pt=rd&sid=111401731)

720p (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sdm=web&pt=rd&sid=111401733)

1080p (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sdm=web&pt=rd&sid=111401738)

Save link?

Right click to save, just have the file extension end with .mov

[dark_b]

150?

muhahaha. this is not even 200.

[Kane52630]

surprisingly theres more set pieces than CG in this movie according to Collider

[Sawyer]

Young Jeff Bridges looks like he belongs in Toy Story 3. :up:

That's a compliment btw. It's not like they can go back in time 28 years and kidnap the real young Jeff Bridges, so if it's going to be CGI, at least it looks good.

[tecnowraith]

Some new tidbits I saw in the new trailer: fireworks, anti-gravity/reverse gravity ability or game arena and a new vehicle: a lightjet that Clu digitize into.

[kickass]

The trailer is a bit anti-climatic and choppy, I find.

It just doesn't have that UMPH the first teaser had.
With the first teaser, I literally get goosebumps, and the music was amazing.
But with this one, I kept waiting for something to happen.

Meh.

[That-Guy]

Anyone know what the blonde babe says to Sam? I couldn't understand her.

[Sawyer]

Yeah, there's always got to be one of you. :whatever:

[Dark Victory]

Looks good. Didn't blow me away like the teaser, but it looks solid.

[Solidus]

Good trailer. One to check out for sure.

[louiebling$]

*subscribes*

[rashad]

Anyone know what the blonde babe says to Sam? I couldn't understand her.

Survive.

[Aesop Rocks]

Beautiful trailer.

[dark_b]

surprisingly theres more set pieces than CG in this movie according to Colliderthis is not true. i was already suprised when i read from collider that they have more sets.

the scope couldnt be done without CGI.


the scope is huge. i have tears around my eyes.

[Dark Victory]

The trailer is a bit anti-climatic and choppy, I find.

It just doesn't have that UMPH the first teaser had.
With the first teaser, I literally get goosebumps, and the music was amazing.
But with this one, I kept waiting for something to happen.

Meh.


Agreed. Don't know why, but this trailer pretty much lacked everything the first excelled. I'm lukewarm towards it, but yeah, I'm a bit disappointed.

[Kane52630]

im just hoping its PG-13 and not PG

[Dark Victory]

It's PG, a produced confirmed it awhile back. I don't see why anyone would be mad over it.

[Octoberist]

pg-13

[dark_b]

because the first movie was PG?

the first movie couldnt be PG13 because PG 13 was not created.

this needs to be PG13

[Spidey220987]

Looks good. Didn't blow me away like the teaser, but it looks solid.
This.
Don't get me wrong, it was an awesome trailer, it just didn't have AS MUCH impact like the first one did.

[dark_b]

It's PG, a produced confirmed it awhile back. I don't see why anyone would be mad over it.go watch a f..... disney cartoon if you want PG.

this is a futuristic action movie. PG13 .

[Aesop Rocks]

Loved the trailer.

[Dark Victory]

because the first movie was PG?

the first movie couldnt be PG13 because PG 13 was not created.

this needs to be PG13


They're keeping it within the same tone as the original. Sure, it's definitely not going to be as campy as the first first may feel now, but I don't really see a reason for it to be pushed to PG-13. There's no blood, swearing(at least not explicit), sex, etc.

[dark_b]

thank you Kosinski for not using shaky cam. thank you for holding the f... camera still

[dark_b]

since when is PG13 about swearing, blood and sex?

are you joking or did you mix up R and PG13? :dry::huh:

[Dark Victory]

go watch a f..... disney cartoon if you want PG.

this is a futuristic action movie. PG13 .


:whatever:

Jesus Christ...

[Dark Victory]

since when is PG13 about swearing, blood and sex?

are you joking or did you mix up R and PG13? :dry::huh:


All of those can work within the boundaries of a PG-13 rating.

[Kane52630]

calm down folks

im saying that it needs to be PG-13 so it can show some adult orientated themes but then again there was adult orientated themes in Toy Story 3 so who knows.

[Aesop Rocks]

It'll be PG-13 most likely, at least I hope so.

[CGHulk]

The CG eyes of Clu 2 look way to fake for me. If ILM can do realistic looking eyes for Davey Jones then why can't Digital Domain do it four years later on Clu 2? Even Weta's eyes on the Navi in Avatar are more realistic. These studios farm out their work to smaller visual effects houses to save a buck, but the results are always less convincing. I think I'm the only one who thought Digital Domain's work on The Curious Case of Benjamin Button wasn't that good, I couldn't believe that it won the Oscar for Best Visual Effects that year. That's probably why Disney hired them for Tron because of thier award winning work on Benjamin Button for CG face replacement.

[Dark Victory]

calm down folks

im saying that it needs to be PG-13 so it can show some adult orientated themes but then again there was adult orientated themes in Toy Story 3 so who knows.

It's pretty obvious that the folks behind the MPAA are morally retarded, they only really care about the technical crap. Getting back to violence, your conventional action flick features humans shooting, stabbing, etc. each other. Here, we're given files "deprogramming" one another with 2 by 4's, javelin discs and so forth. I'm sure they'd let it slide. I remember the awful FF sequel featured Dr. Doom blowing a few people apart. Of course,

[Kane52630]

Nice run on.
Thanks! :woot: Im working on my internet speak.

[Octoberist]

I think Clu 2 (Young Jeff) looks good but stiff.

WIth the eyes and facial experession, what's kinda missing are little muscles that we don't notice on our faces. The little jerks & twitches that makes it look organic. They're still in the valley..the UNCANNY valley.

[dark_b]

The CG eyes of Clu 2 look way to fake for me. If ILM can do realistic looking eyes for Davey Jones then why can't Digital Domain do it four years later on Clu 2? Even Weta's eyes on the Navi in Avatar are more realistic. These studios farm out their work to smaller visual effects houses to save a buck, but the results are always less convincing.
1. digital domain is not a small studio. they are as good as ILM and WETA.
2. i didnt notice any problems with the eyes. the problem is that they have been saying for months that hes face will be CGI. davy jones is a sea monster and the navi are blue aliens. this is a human.

[Dark Victory]

Thanks! :woot: Im working on my internet speak.


Haha, kidding of course. I just woke up so I'm a bit hazy myself.:oldrazz:

[dark_b]

I think Clu 2 (Young Jeff) looks good but stiff.

WIth the eyes and facial experession, what's kinda missing are little muscles that we don't notice on our faces. The little jerks & twitches that makes it look organic. They're still in the valley..the UNCANNY valley.look i respect your opinion if he doesnt loko real enough.

but please dont insult the guys from DD with '' little muscles''. they have complex rigs that simulate 100% the same muscels like on a real face.

if it doesnt look good enough ok. but fact is that every muscle that is on the real face is on Clu 2. like Benjamin Button and like the na'vi. Digial Domain is using FACS like WETA with Avatar. Facial Action Coding System from Ekman.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_Action_Coding_System

[JP]

Trailer looked cool. Not ZOMG MIND BLOWN, but cool.

I await the day they perfect the de-aging cgi.

[dark_b]

Trailer looked cool. Not ZOMG MIND BLOWN, but cool.

I await the day they perfect the de-aging cgi.i am waiting the day when they will have a CGI face in the movie without spoiling it 6 months before the movie is realesed.

people are saying that CGI baby in Children of Men was good. i wonder what would happen if 6 months before the movie was out they would tell everyone that it will be CGI.

[Octoberist]

look i respect your opinion if he doesnt loko real enough.

but please dont insult the guys from DD with '' little muscles''. they have complex rigs that simulate 100% the same muscels like on a real face.

if it doesnt look good enough ok. but fact is that every muscle that is on the real face is on Clu 2. like Benjamin Button and like the na'vi. Digial Domain is using FACS like WETA with Avatar. Facial Action Coding System from Ekman.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_Action_Coding_System

You're being really aggressive, especially after your 'PG' not 'PG 13' rant.

I said it looks good but STIFF. I think you know me enough that I'm a reasonable person and of course, I'm going to keep an open mind about it. BUT thus far, he looks a little off. But that could be unfinished as far as I know.

[Kane52630]

You're being really aggressive, especially after your 'PG' not 'PG 13' rant.


you shouldve seen him in the James Cameron's Avatar thread :hehe:

nah buts its cool, dark_b does bring up some nice points :up:

[Octoberist]

I agree with dark B and I understand where he's coming from but he needs a breather.

[dark_b]

Octoberist you are OK. my bad. sorry.

[Kane52630]

if only SonofKrypton09 was here...

wait nvm lol

[Killer Clown]

Olivia Wilde and Garrett Hedlund from this morning's Tron Legacy press conference at Comic-Con.
http://i25.tinypic.com/1ih06w.jpg

Olivia Wilde, Garrett Hedlund, and Jeff Bridges at the Comic-Con Tron Legacy panel.
http://i30.tinypic.com/2uqj1qa.jpg

Official Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/Tron#!/Tron?v=wall)

[CGHulk]

1. digital domain is not a small studio. they are as good as ILM and WETA.
2. i didnt notice any problems with the eyes. the problem is that they have been saying for months that hes face will be CGI. davy jones is a sea monster and the navi are blue aliens. this is a human.

1. People who work at ILM and Weta are the best, you have to be the best to get jobs there. I think that they should be the ones hired to to do the digital doubles because they are the best in the industry.

2.When I first saw Davey Jones I thought it was Bill Nighy's real eyes.

I believe that creating the subtle movements on the face, there needs to be the creation of a muscles system under the skin to get a convincing result. It's probably to expensive for the fat cats at Disney to spend on one picture to do that.

[Hunter Rider]

New trailer is pretty good, like JP said not mind blowing but cool.

[Aesop Rocks]

Oh my, Olivia! :atp:

[Crook]

1. People who work at ILM and Weta are the best, you have to be the best to get jobs there. I think that they should be the ones hired to to do the digital doubles because they are the best in the industry.

2.When I first saw Davey Jones I thought it was Bill Nighy's real eyes.

I believe that creating the subtle movements on the face, there needs to be the creation of a muscles system under the skin to get a convincing result. It's probably to expensive for the fat cats at Disney to spend on one picture to do that.
ILM and WETA have little to no experience on lengthy exposure with human faces. Digital Domain is the same team behind Benjamin Button, a film that most people failed to even realize utilized much special effects. It's a testament to their work that that character contained almost total cgi transparency.

I highly doubt any other studio could have done much better than what we have now. It's very impressive work, I must say. And I'm very critical of cgi doubles.

[CGHulk]

ILM and WETA have little to no experience on lengthy exposure with human faces. Digital Domain is the same team behind Benjamin Button, a film that most people failed to even realize utilized much special effects. It's a testament to their work that that character contained almost total cgi transparency.

I highly doubt any other studio could have done much better than what we have now. It's very impressive work, I must say. And I'm very critical of cgi doubles.

I already spoke of Digital Domains work on Benjamin Button in my second to last post.

[Crook]

Heh, yup I just read that. My point still stands however, that DD have much more experience with the technology than either ILM or WETA.

[Octoberist]

Octoberist you are OK. my bad. sorry.

you are a son to me. (dies)

[Kane52630]

Heh, yup I just read that. My point still stands however, that DD have much more experience with the technology than either ILM or WETA.

hmm, but I heard WETA did do human CGI.

Wasnt this all done via WETA? or am I wrong?

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6672/avataravtr4191024x675.jpg

[Electrofarce]

The shot in the beggining of the trailer where young Bridges turns out the light is incredible cgi wise

[Jackasscoley15]

Just saw the trailer, fantastic. The movement on Clu's face could use a little work, though. The rendering on it looks great, it's just when he goes to move his mouth it doesn't look like he's actually saying the words that are being spoken.

[Crook]

hmm, but I heard WETA did do human CGI.

Wasnt this all done via WETA? or am I wrong?
No, you are right. But said shot(s) were mere seconds. DD worked with entire scenes and prolonged shots, which all accumulated to dozens of minutes. Hence they have considerably more experience on the matter.

[Aesop Rocks]

Guys, we still have many months before the movie comes out. I'm sure it's not finished

[Sawyer]

Guys, we still have many months before the movie comes out. I'm sure it's not finished

I'm sure you're right, but even for where its at right now, I think the CG looks pretty damn good.

[Nivek]

hmm, but I heard WETA did do human CGI.

Wasnt this all done via WETA? or am I wrong?

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6672/avataravtr4191024x675.jpg

Yup, you are right.

[CGHulk]

Heh, yup I just read that. My point still stands however, that DD have much more experience with the technology than either ILM or WETA.

You didn't prove your point, you expressed your opinion.

[Crook]

Last I checked, stating facts was not a matter of opinion. Were you to provide counterpoints that disputed my statement, then we can start discussing further.

[Aesop Rocks]

Wait, ILM doesn't have that great of experience in CGI?

LOL WHAT?!

[Crook]

Please read: human CGI.

[Dark Victory]

Wait, ILM doesn't have that great of experience in CGI?

LOL WHAT?!

No one said that.

Digital Domain has much more experience with the particular technology regarding motion capture of the human face than ILM or WETA.

[Aesop Rocks]

Oh~

Well I don't give'a hoot, I think the CGI on Flynn looks amazing.

[Sawyer]

Has there been any news of if Disney will be rereleasing the original on DVD and presumably Blu-ray to coincide with Legacy?

[Monsieur Xavier]

Hi,

Nice trailer, not as exciting as the first one but we see more details on the vehicles.
The lightcycles are particulary good, the internal engine in motion, all the moving parts, great. It might be the best ride ever created next to Akira bike.
About the CGI I found them fine save for Clu face animation and rendering and Quorra face when she is in the lightcycle.

PS : I am wild or Olivia.

[Kane52630]

Has there been any news of if Disney will be rereleasing the original on DVD and presumably Blu-ray to coincide with Legacy?

yeah there will be a rerelease of Tron but only for Bluray.

http://www.amazon.com/Tron-Blu-ray/dp/B001AQT15I

[Sawyer]

yeah there will be a rerelease of Tron but only for Bluray.

http://www.amazon.com/Tron-Blu-ray/dp/B001AQT15I

Hope they still do DVD. Blu-ray is the devil. :o

[L.A.]

This is the only movie im looking forward too the rest of the year :(

[Blackman]

I thought the original was okay, but this looks awesome.
I liked the other trailer better and this one supposed to be the theatrical trailer? Didn't feel like it, but at least they didnt give everything away like some trailer.

Can't wait :up:

[TheComicbookKid]

Don't like this trailer all that much. It's okay. Kind of turns into randomness once the Flynn opening is done.

[xwolverine2]

this is seriously one of the coolest trailers ive seen in a long time

[xwolverine2]

this is seriously one of the coolest trailers ive seen in a long time

[Doctor Jones]

Flynn looks strange with the CG. It doesn't look right. Xavier and Eric looked better in X3. But other than that cool trailer.

[Kane52630]

Flynn looks strange with the CG. It doesn't look right. Xavier and Eric looked better in X3. But other than that cool trailer.

:dry:

[Sawyer]

:dry:

Well, he's kinda right, but I feel like they had to do less for X3. That was less of a de-aging as it was a de-wrinkling. This is pretty much recreating a whole person as they were 25+ years ago. Overall, I think Tron has the harder job to do and more kinks to work through. Though I do think the younger Flynn CG looks great at this stage.

[xmangambit]

Hey, is all the trailer music being done by Daft Punk as well? I was wondering where the original music came from in the original teaser and will that be in the movie because that was probably the best I've heard so far.

If you don't know which music it's here:

It starts at 2:00 minutes or if anyone knows where it's from could you send the name and artist of it please:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AwvuirSEAA

Thanks.

[kickass]

I think Flynn looks fantastic and if I was living under a rock and had no idea who jeff Bridges was, I would have been completely fooled into thinking this was really a 35 year old man.

Thumbs way up :)

[lime]

Look at that :D

http://store.picbg.net/pubpic/68/F6/5e17bfe6b66168f6.jpg

[Sentinel X]

Honestly...the trailer was a bit disappointing, which is a first (since everything released prior to the trailer looked spectacularly cool...even the merchandise)

I hope the movie itself is more like the comic con trailer. That was simply amazing.

[DorkyFresh]

new trailer kicks ass, but as a Tron trailer it's just 'okay'. CG Jeff Bridges is pretty awesome, BUT they've still got a lot of work to do. his eyes aren't quite convincing and his lips/expressions don't match the audio very well. i hope they can nail everything down by December though. i also hope they're working with some of the guys who worked on Avatar. i understand the argument that the Na'vi aren't human, but there is a life in their eyes that is missing from Bridges in these shots.

that being said, i'm STILL stoked about this movie...even more so after see this trailer!

[Webhead2006]

wicked cool new trailer. The younger flynn looks great in motion/talking in cgi. They did excellent work there. Also the visuals were great. Cant wait for dec to come.

[Project862006]

Honestly...the trailer was a bit disappointing, which is a first (since everything released prior to the trailer looked spectacularly cool...even the merchandise)

I hope the movie itself is more like the comic con trailer. That was simply amazing.

comic con trailer was test footage buddy

[Nivek]

Bridges did motion capture, and they just de-aged him like Benjamin Button, right?

[DorkyFresh]

i think it's a safe bet that Bridges did some motion capture for his face while recording the dialogue, but at the same time that can only do but so much. the shot of him saying "C'MON!" was probably the weakest shot and if they only used the data they got from his face then they should go back and tweak it. he had next to NO expression as he was saying that. it wasn't exciting, it was just...odd. his face simply didn't match his voice in that shot. he looked great when his helmet retracted and while he was smiling as he walked up to Sam, but as he was delivering his lines "I'm not your father" (anti-Vader much?) his face went emotionless and even as he said he's very happy to see Sam, his eyes looked 'dead' even though he was smirking. the little head bob as he turns doesn't help either as it looks unnatural.

so while i'm sure Bridges contributed as much as he can in turns of mocap, it's really up to the animators to bring these characters to life.

[Doc Ock]

This movie is only looking better and better! :D

[Donut]

The Tron Trailer Music by Daft Punk is on the Official Site

http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track1.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track2.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track3.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track4.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track5.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track6.mp3

Track 5 is the newest trailer music

[terry78]

I think most of the mainstream who see this trailer in theatres are going to be wowed by the CG Flynn, because they aren't able to view it frame by frame and what not. The thing looks extremely good for a CG character, but of course it ain't gonna be perfect.

[lime]

Fot those who knows me, I like to post some HQ shots from the trailers, so here we go:

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/2505/tronlegacycon17.th.jpg (http://img693.imageshack.us/i/tronlegacycon17.jpg/)
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/194/tronlegacycon1.th.jpg (http://img843.imageshack.us/i/tronlegacycon1.jpg/)
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/3151/tronlegacycon2.th.jpg (http://img707.imageshack.us/i/tronlegacycon2.jpg/)
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/6171/tronlegacycon3.th.jpg (http://img121.imageshack.us/i/tronlegacycon3.jpg/)
http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/2808/tronlegacycon4.th.jpg (http://img571.imageshack.us/i/tronlegacycon4.jpg/)
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/3919/tronlegacycon5.th.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/i/tronlegacycon5.jpg/)
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8256/tronlegacycon6.th.jpg (http://img269.imageshack.us/i/tronlegacycon6.jpg/)
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/6281/tronlegacycon7.th.jpg (http://img408.imageshack.us/i/tronlegacycon7.jpg/)

[lime]

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/4140/tronlegacycon8.th.jpg (http://img535.imageshack.us/i/tronlegacycon8.jpg/)
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/9871/tronlegacycon9.th.jpg (http://img46.imageshack.us/i/tronlegacycon9.jpg/)
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6787/tronlegacycon10.th.jpg (http://img237.imageshack.us/i/tronlegacycon10.jpg/)
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9903/tronlegacycon11.th.jpg (http://img257.imageshack.us/i/tronlegacycon11.jpg/)
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/9636/tronlegacycon12.th.jpg (http://img836.imageshack.us/i/tronlegacycon12.jpg/)
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/5830/tronlegacycon13.th.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/i/tronlegacycon13.jpg/)
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/9970/tronlegacycon14.th.jpg (http://img834.imageshack.us/i/tronlegacycon14.jpg/)
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/7207/tronlegacycon15.th.jpg (http://img22.imageshack.us/i/tronlegacycon15.jpg/)
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/5533/tronlegacycon16.th.jpg (http://img35.imageshack.us/i/tronlegacycon16.jpg/)

[Donut]

Damn Yahoo for Watermarking

[jacobed]

I was thinking that cgi bridges looks kinda wierd in the eyes and mouth on purpose since its like the computer and not real Jeff

[Wolfwood]

Damn, a light-jet. That's hot to death.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

1. People who work at ILM and Weta are the best, you have to be the best to get jobs there. I think that they should be the ones hired to to do the digital doubles because they are the best in the industry.

2.When I first saw Davey Jones I thought it was Bill Nighy's real eyes.

I believe that creating the subtle movements on the face, there needs to be the creation of a muscles system under the skin to get a convincing result. It's probably to expensive for the fat cats at Disney to spend on one picture to do that.

They were Bill Nighy's real eyes, everything else was CGI except eyes and mouth movements.

[Donut]

In case anyone missed this post

The Tron Trailer Music by Daft Punk is on the Official Site

http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track1.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track2.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track3.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track4.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track5.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track6.mp3

Track 5 is the newest trailer music

[Crockett]

Hot damn what a frakkin a trailer. Every footage I seen from the movie seems to be getting better and better.

EDIT:In case anyone missed this post

The Tron Trailer Music by Daft Punk is on the Official Site

http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track1.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track2.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track3.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track4.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track5.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track6.mp3

Track 5 is the newest trailer music

Awesomesauce.

[Bunker]

That trailer sucked. The movie itself looks good, though.

[Donut]

Am I the only one that thinks this has to be the first sequel where the son of the main character from the previous movie is not annoying ? Pretty impressive

[Kane52630]

The Tron Trailer Music by Daft Punk is on the Official Site

http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track1.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track2.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track3.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track4.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track5.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track6.mp3

Track 5 is the newest trailer music
awesome, Ill check these out when I get home
which track is from the previous trailer?

[Crockett]

awesome, Ill check these out when I get home
which track is from the previous trailer?

Number #1 and a little bit of track #2.

[Kane52630]

Number #1 and a little bit of track #2.

awesome bean sauce

just in case the links dont work, can anyone saved them and reupload them to megaupload.com

[hobo123]

i really dont have any interest in the movie but Jeff Bridges's transformation just looks mind-blowing :eek:

http://i27.tinypic.com/2lnin49.jpg

[Bunker]

Of course the stills are going to look amazing, but in when in motion, it's stuck in the uncanny valley. It doesn't look convincing.

[mastermindjcg]

Holy f***!! I'm reverting back to my 9 year old self after seeing the new trailer for this. In spite of my hatred toward Disney, I so much have to see this film. As for the "unfinished" looking Clu FX, just remember that the movie is still five months away. Think back to when they first previewed Iron Man during the Super Bowl in 08' and the CG looked all PlayStation-ish, but when the finished film was released, it looked perfect. To those of you who weren't born when the original Tron came out, just......relax.......and........be.........patien t. Some of us have waited 28 years for this sequel. If we can make it, so can the rest of you.

-so sayeth the mastermind-

[DorkyFresh]

they've got Jeff's eyes wrong. it's close, but it looks like he has sleepy eye syndrome. his upper eyelids are too slanted. Jeff naturally has small eyes, but they're not slanted like that especially when he was younger...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/SHH%20stuff/2003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/SHH%20stuff/bridges.jpg



They were Bill Nighy's real eyes, everything else was CGI except eyes and mouth movements.
not to be a d***, but Davy Jones was 100% CGI, including his eyes. they did away with using his real eyes once they realized they could pull off the same visual with less effort.

I was thinking that cgi bridges looks kinda wierd in the eyes and mouth on purpose since its like the computer and not real Jeff
nah...it's like that because they haven't quite mastered CG humans yet. if they meant for Bridges to look like that, then for consistency sake they should've made ALL the characters in the world of TRON look like that.

[The Squirrel]

The CGI Jeff is a bit off putting, but the film doesn't come out till December so I'm sure it will improve. That being said, this movie looks FANTASTIC!

[Whiskey Tango]

This is going to be great. The best part is that it's a direct sequel with actual actors from the first movie and not some lame-o pseudo sequel.

CGI Jeff looks a little bit like his brother Beau to me.

[kickass]

In case anyone missed this post

The Tron Trailer Music by Daft Punk is on the Official Site

http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track1.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track2.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track3.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track4.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track5.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track6.mp3

Track 5 is the newest trailer music


amazing!!

[Kane52630]

How do I save these to my computer? It says I'm unable to unless I Buy Quicktime..............I want these in MP3 :csad:

use VLC player

its free and plays everything.

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

[Doc Ock]

I think the CGI looks good on Jeff, isn't he supposed to be a emotionless program anyways...

[Figs]

Can someone explain why they have Bridges old and young in this? I haven't seen the original in roughly 20 years.

[MAN O STEEL]

Can someone explain why they have Bridges old and young in this?


The old Bridges is Flynn. The real guy who in the first movie got sucked into the world of Tron. He has been there for 20 something years so he's now old as ****. The younger Bridges is Clue a computer program in his image from when he first got sucked into the world as a young man, hence why he looks young. I'm not a big Tron fan, so I maye have gotten a few specifics wrong but that's the gist of it.



Steve

[Figs]

The old Bridges is Flynn. The real guy who in the first movie got sucked into the world of Tron. He has been there for 20 something years so he's now old as ****. The younger Bridges is Clue a computer program in his image from when he first got sucked into the world as a young man, hence why he looks young. I'm not a big Tron fan, so I maye have gotten a few specifics wrong but that's the gist of it.

Thanks! Makes sense now.

Move looks pretty cool, I need to watch the original again though. Can barely remember a damn thing about it.

[Poeman]

In case anyone missed this post

The Tron Trailer Music by Daft Punk is on the Official Site

http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track1.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track2.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track3.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track4.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track5.mp3
http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/tron/_audio/musicPlayer/DaftPunk_track6.mp3

Track 5 is the newest trailer music

fanfuking tastic music!

[dark_b]

I think most of the mainstream who see this trailer in theatres are going to be wowed by the CG Flynn, because they aren't able to view it frame by frame and what not. The thing looks extremely good for a CG character, but of course it ain't gonna be perfect.they will nto know that it is CGI. the general public doesnt notice those things.

[Kane52630]

some gifs I made, ill make some more later

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/2407/81760411.gif

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/723/85399235.gif

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/6845/25847388.gif

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/7512/69455077.gif

http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/4763/83788287.gif

[dark_b]

i have a question about Bridges CGI head.

i agree that it doesnt look perfect and 100% real. but do you agree THAT IT LOOKS GOOD ENOUGH for the general public? lets not forget that we are internet geeks. we look at every detail.

i think the CGI face is good enough for the general public and for the finished movie. could they do better? yes with more time and more money.

[Kane52630]

they can do better but so far ive shown this to some people I know who arent into all of this and They didnt believe that was CG until I told them, they were shocked.

[TNC9852002]

I think it looks fine. Keep in mind, this movie still has like 4 months of post production left...

[dark_b]

''a little to corny and to cheesy''
:facepalm:

http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/07/22/comic-con-tron-legacy-footage-descriptionvideo-blog/



it was to good to be true.

[Octoberist]

a little TOO corny and TOO cheesy?

well, we'll see. I like Peter's and Adam's opinions so hmmm.

[dark_b]

opinions? i belive what they wrotte. i am scared that it will be corny and cheesy.

[Octoberist]

actually all three guys (peter, Adam, Dan) said it ...cheesy. Even Dan said it was cheesy but in a good way but it's hard to read him sometimes. If you listen to the slash film podcast, when Dan's a guest, he's usually very optimistic BUT to the point where it somewhat blinds his views. SO if a guy like him says it's cheesy, I might have to go "HMMMM".

[dark_b]

like you said Dan is always 100 % optimistic. and this is what also scares me. he had a ''meh'' face. and this is comic con. i can not belive what Dan says on the podcast. but at comics con after the Tron pannel he looked like it was meh.

maybe hes girlfriend broke up with him 20 seconds before he was on the video? ehehehhe ;)


about cheesy in a good way. i think that they lowered their expectation for the story and since its a tron movie they maybe think it fits with the old movie. i disagree here. this is a modern hollywood movie. it needs to feel comfortable. if it desnt feel comfortable then this movie could be an underperformer.

[Octoberist]

I just feel that, if the movie fails on any level with the acting, keep it mind that this is the director's first film. Ever.

Now this is a big IF.

[Nivek]

Wow, because one person said it looks cheesy, now people are going to get worried? That's pretty damn lame all in itself.

[nightwing06]

Ok the Jeff Bridges CGI ,De-Aged head is a bit odd,but that wont stop me from seeing this in the theatre!!

[Octoberist]

Wow, because one person said it looks cheesy, now people are going to get worried? That's pretty damn lame all in itself.

Correction, three (two I trust). I'm not bashing anything. Speaking for myself, my reaction was a mysterious "hmmmm". But I'm keeping an open mind.

[BlackLantern]

the original film is cheesy as hell, nostalgia has softened that a bit for people

[Monsieur Xavier]

they will nto know that it is CGI. the general public doesnt notice those things.

I tend to think that the general public is not actors illiterate, Bridges is an "old" man, people ( who doesn't live in a cave ) know him ( he isn't a new comer in the field ) so they will know that the young version of himself is a special effect ( CGI or whatever ).

[Monsieur Xavier]

the original film is cheesy as hell, nostalgia has softened that a bit for people

I didn't find the first one cheesy but maybe I don't fully grasp the meaning of the word. For me a cheesy movie is like Flash Gordon ( the 80' version ).

[Electrofarce]

i have a question about Bridges CGI head.

i agree that it doesnt look perfect and 100% real. but do you agree THAT IT LOOKS GOOD ENOUGH for the general public? lets not forget that we are internet geeks. we look at every detail.

i think the CGI face is good enough for the general public and for the finished movie. could they do better? yes with more time and more money.

I showed some of my friends. None of them had any idea he was CG. I think the only people who really notice he's CG are us and people who look at the trailer very closely. Seriously though, so far, this looks to be one of the best CG characters I've ever seen.

[Nivek]

the original film is cheesy as hell, nostalgia has softened that a bit for people

Nostalgia is like acid flashbacks for anyone 25-45 apparently, because everyone remembers it being better than it probably is/was. After 10 years of reading comments from people posting online, I have to say it's pretty bad. Rose Colored glasses and 20/20 hindsight, mixed with childhood expectation, gotta love it.

[BlackLantern]

yea...I recently watched the first one and, it hasn't aged well...its still a good movie but it isn't the life changer that a lot of people make it out to be

[BlackLantern]

Nostalgia is like acid flashbacks for anyone 25-45 apparently, because everyone remembers it being better than it probably is/was. After 10 years of reading comments from people posting online, I have to say it's pretty bad. Rose Colored glasses and 20/20 hindsight, mixed with childhood expectation, gotta love it.

I may sig this or save the quote if you don't mind

[Nivek]

It's just silly, that after two great trailers for a sequel to a cheesy 1980's early CG Disney film, people are saying it looks cheese and any open minded fan suddenly being concerned. But hey, nature of the internet...

Knock yourself out, BL

[Monsieur Xavier]

yea...I recently watched the first one and, it hasn't aged well...its still a good movie but it isn't the life changer that a lot of people make it out to be

Agree on the first part of your sentence, I disagree about the second part. It was "life changer" at the time, computers were new and this movie was already using an advanced concept à la Matrix.

Maybe it is me but I still like old special effects in movies when done well such as Tron or even stop motion in Jason and the Argonauts. For me it is like old paintings, the pieces by DaVinci, Rambrant and the like are still masterpieces, I feel the same way with old SFX.

[Nivek]

Tron was also one of the first notable movies about Video Games that I remember, next to The Last Starfighter. Both films helped pioneer CG in motion pictures. But it was far from a game changer. Honestly till recently, it was considered a joke and a disappointment. Most people my age talk highly of it, till they watch it again. That is why this sequel looks so good and cool to me, because it is such an overall improvement, compared to the original.

[That-Guy]

I don't know... to be honest, I think people get a little too hung up on dialogue in movies. Granted, there are movies with AWFUL dialogue, but sometimes I seriously wonder what fans expect characters in movies to say. Screenwriters have a tough enough job as it is, trying to make characters' speech feel natural while not making it boring. I think the Internet as a whole has blown up the concept of "bad dialogue" to epic proportions.

It's like with James Cameron's movies. Now, I'm not the biggest Cameron fan, but people who hate him and trash his films (usually before they even watch them), say all the dialogue in his movies is "crap." I don't know... yeah, there are some bad lines here and there, but you can find that in any movie. You can find bad lines in The Dark Knight. You can find bad lines in Casablanca. In Gone With the Wind.

So maybe their comments about the film's dialogue are spot on, but I'll wait and see. Until I hear Clu or Sam say "Mesa day startin pretty okee-day with a brisky morning munchy," I'm not going to panic.

[BlackLantern]

people want to come from sort of intellectual high ground....just saying you don't like a movie isn't enough, you have to come up with some sort of highbrow reason for it to make yourself feel smart

[Monsieur Xavier]

Tron was also one of the first notable movies about Video Games that I remember, next to The Last Starfighter. Both films helped pioneer CG in motion pictures. But it was far from a game changer. Honestly till recently, it was considered a joke and a disappointment. Most people my age talk highly of it, till they watch it again. That is why this sequel looks so good and cool to me, because it is such an overall improvement, compared to the original.

I don't know your age but I'm 35 and it is one of my favorit movie of all time which I watch every year or two.
Anyway, let's say it was game changer for the "geek" community :)
I share the same feeling that you about the sequel ( the good and cool part :p )

[Nivek]

I'm around your age, but I stand by what I said, Tron wasn't placed in high regard by a lot of general fans till the last 5-10 years.

[dark_b]

the dialoge talk started after i saw the video blog from the slashfilm site.

not because of the two guys from Slashfilm but because Dan. he is optimistic and doesnt have high expectations when it comes to those movies. i dont think that it is ''good'' cheesy.


i just think there was no reason to have this kind of dialoge in the movie. doesnt matter how Tron 20 year ago was. the movie is for everyone and not for 10 fans.

[BlackLantern]

slashfilm?? never even heard of it till I started hanging out on the Hype

[Monsieur Xavier]

I don't know... to be honest, I think people get a little too hung up on dialogue in movies. Granted, there are movies with AWFUL dialogue, but sometimes I seriously wonder what fans expect characters in movies to say. Screenwriters have a tough enough job as it is, trying to make characters' speech feel natural while not making it boring. I think the Internet as a whole has blown up the concept of "bad dialogue" to epic proportions.

It's like with James Cameron's movies. Now, I'm not the biggest Cameron fan, but people who hate him and trash his films (usually before they even watch them), say all the dialogue in his movies is "crap." I don't know... yeah, there are some bad lines here and there, but you can find that in any movie. You can find bad lines in The Dark Knight. You can find bad lines in Casablanca. In Gone With the Wind.

So maybe their comments about the film's dialogue are spot on, but I'll wait and see. Until I hear Clu or Sam say "Mesa day startin pretty okee-day with a brisky morning munchy," I'm not going to panic.

I fully agree.

[That-Guy]

Good to know. I just wonder sometimes if any these brilliant dialogue critics that populate the Web have ever even ATTEMPTED to write a screenplay in their lives. It's hard to do... a lot harder than most fanboys understand. Sometimes I'm left scratching my head when I hear that a studio has hired a screenwriter (whose previous work isn't all that impressive or who has never worked in the particular genre before) to rework a script by someone, but I try to keep in mind that professional screenwriters have a better sense of what works in a film than first timers or novelists and comic book writers.

[Nivek]

I don't know... to be honest, I think people get a little too hung up on dialogue in movies. Granted, there are movies with AWFUL dialogue, but sometimes I seriously wonder what fans expect characters in movies to say. Screenwriters have a tough enough job as it is, trying to make characters' speech feel natural while not making it boring. I think the Internet as a whole has blown up the concept of "bad dialogue" to epic proportions.


Considering what we refer to as great films (Star Wars, Raiders, LOTR, Star Trek, TDK, Blade Runner), genre fans are the last people who should complain about bad dialogue and delivery IMO. This is a Genre that wallows in material that isn't realistic and often fantastic, why should the delivery sound like something you hear every day?

[Doctor Jones]

Screenwriting is neither easy nor difficult I would say. And I think dialogue is easier to write than people think. It's harder because you are trying too hard, which happens to me. It's difficult to write out a script with the whole thing in your head and know where everything goes.

I don't have an exact preference of how dialogue should be written. There's alot of dialogue in films that are just for films and people would never say in the real world. It's fine in films, and depending on where the film takes place or what it's all about. But dialogue like Kevin Smith or Quinten Tarantino is welcome because it feels real, yet they are still able to accomplish good dialogue.

[Monsieur Xavier]

I googled "definition of cheesy" for a better understanding of people feeling and it says : Informal. Of poor quality; shoddy.

It that really what people means by cheesy when talking about movies ?

[Nivek]

Smith and Tarantino's dialogue is far removed from being realistic.

[Monsieur Xavier]

Considering what we refer to as great films (Star Wars, Raiders, LOTR, Star Trek, TDK, Blade Runner), genre fans are the last people who should complain about bad dialogue and delivery IMO. This is a Genre that wallows in material that isn't realistic and often fantastic, why should the delivery sound like something you hear every day?

True, genre fan complains more about hair color ( Conan ) or body size ( Wolverin ) or if Thor will wear a helmet or not :)

[Brian Braddock]

Loved the new trailer.

One thing that struck me, after reading all the stuff about Clu looking like Bridges from Starman - I actually think they've modelled him on Bridges from The Fabulous Baker Boys; the hair anyways:-

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/zxzxzxzxzxzxzx.jpg

[dark_b]

you think this is real hair or CGI hair? because this is the best CGI hair that i ever saw.

[That-Guy]

Smith and Tarantino's dialogue is far removed from being realistic.

Yeah, they tend to insert random conversations about things that essentially don't concern the plot, which is realistic in the sense that real people have multiple things on their mind and therefore, everything we say isn't going to concern the "main plot" of our lives.

However, they take it to the extreme and make sure that the dialogue is also funny and often over the top, which is of course, only something you'd see in a movie. So with them, it kind of goes both ways.

[Monsieur Xavier]

^
I thought the exact same thing save for the best I ever saw, the Na'vi hairs were great too.

[dark_b]

to me SMith and Tarantino have artistic dialoge. you know like its art.

[Aesop Rocks]

I'm watching the Tron: Legacy panel, Michael Sheen is so funny!

[Brian Braddock]

you think this is real hair or CGI hair? because this is the best CGI hair that i ever saw.

That's just what I thought when I saw it; the weight, definition, colour, lighting.

Top notch.

[Figs]

I googled "definition of cheesy" for a better understanding of people feeling and it says : Informal. Of poor quality; shoddy.

It that really what people means by cheesy when talking about movies ?

Yes. I never bothered to look up the definition but have always used it when I was basically trying to say a movie looks cheap and silly or goofy. I didn't necessarily find anything cheesy in that trailer but I did find that Gozer/David Bowie wannabe in the teaser to be incredibly stupid, the one playing air guitar or something. I hope that fool dies.

[dark_b]

I'm watching the Tron: Legacy panel, Michael Sheen is so funny!can oyu be so good and give us the links :yay:

[Monsieur Xavier]

Yes. I never bothered to look up the definition but have always used it when I was basically trying to say a movie looks cheap and silly or goofy. I didn't necessarily find anything cheesy in that trailer but I did find that Gozer/David Bowie wannabe in the teaser to be incredibly stupid, the one playing air guitar or something. I hope that fool dies.

lol at the Gozer/David Bowie comment :)
The character is a night club manager and a fixer ( provider of stuff ).

Anyway, if those saying Tron ( the first ) is cheesy as the definition describe it, I disagree at 300%.

[Nivek]

I googled "definition of cheesy" for a better understanding of people feeling and it says : Informal. Of poor quality; shoddy.

It that really what people means by cheesy when talking about movies ?


Yeah, pretty much, but personally I don't find "cheesy" as that negative as a term. Many movies I love I would define as "cheesy". Usually, it imply that it's not that serious (tongue in cheek).

[Monsieur Xavier]

^
that was also how I understood the word before looking up the definition.

[Aesop Rocks]

can oyu be so good and give us the links :yay:

http://www.movieviral.com/2010/07/23/tron-legacy-at-comic-con-viral-update-and-video-of-panel-press-conference-and-flynns-arcade/