Name That Reboot: Title Suggestions

[Superman4ever]

So, lets begin!

What should the title be? SR2 or something else like "The Man of Steel"?

[batboy99]

Superman:The man of steel or Superman:brainiac

[The Ones]

Superman: Brains of Doom

[Gamma Ray]

Superman 4: Wait, is it Superman 2?

[Super Kal]

simply The Man of Steel.

[Immortalfire]

Superman Something: Because We Don't Know Where This Film Fits In The Timeline Either.

[Immortalfire]

simply The Man of Steel. Dumb :down

[Super Kal]

well, not simply that, but more like Superman: The Man of Steel, and who are you to tell me it's a dumb idea?...

[TheCalling]

Depends on the story... If the story is about Doomsday or Zod or someone else, the name should be in the title...

SUPERMAN - DOOMSDAY

I also like "Man of Steel" though

:super:

[Super Kal]

I'm not a big fan of long movie titles... for me, it takes away from the title itself. That's why I like it plain and simple...

[Kevin Roegele]

Superman Lives!

[Immortalfire]

well, not simply that, but more like Superman: The Man of Steel, and who are you to tell me it's a dumb idea?... I'm someone who finds the idea of naming a film after the hero's nickname dumb, and showing a severe lack of creativity.

[Super Kal]

I'm someone who finds the idea of naming a film after the hero's nickname dumb, and showing a severe lack of creativity.
then maybe you should tell that to Christopher Nolan and the upcoming Batman movie The Dark Knight...


I think it's a great movie... it could sync up the two characters and get people to think of a World's Finest movie.

[GreenKToo]

Superman:the man of steel.
Superman:the legacy.
Superman:..Doomsday.
Superman:world Fall.

[zman]

I'm someone who finds the idea of naming a film after the hero's nickname dumb, and showing a severe lack of creativity.


Wow so what do you think of The dark knight genius?
When naming the movie, Singer probably considered the title Batman begins: a name and a verb. Its a clear parallel
It would make for a very cool parallel if they named the new Superman flick The man of steal: same structure as The dark knight.

[thedarks0ldier]

then maybe you should tell that to Christopher Nolan and the upcoming Batman movie The Dark Knight... For Singer to do that would seem like he is just biting off Nolan and Donner



I think it's a great movie... it could sync up the two characters and get people to think of a World's Finest movie.How can you say that, we havent even heard of an idea for the movie.

I wouldnt mind it being just called Man of Steel though

[lordofthenerds]

Superman: Man of Steel or Superman: Sh** Before Zod (If Zod's the main villain)

[Venom71]

I like Superman:Man of Steel. :super:

[Seen]

Superman Stays.

[hippie_hunter]

Superman the Movie

Superman II

Batman Begins - Superman Returns

The Dark Knight - The Man of Steel

[CGHulk]

Superman

[Mentok]

simply The Man of Steel.

Fits in with Nolans 'The Dark Knight'. I like it.

[BooJay]

tehSuperman r0x0rz

[The Kid]

Superman Forever

Or

Wrath Of Zod

Or

Jason Returns

[I Am The Knight]

The Man Of Steel Dammitt.

[Smegger56]

I like the idea of just calling it 'The Man of Steel'. It ties it up with 'The Dark Night'.

[The Kid]

I like Superman Forever

It ties it up with Batman Forever

[FanboyX_Returns]

Superman 4: Wait, is it Superman 2?


Funny... That's very funny... :p:up:

[Apellation]

Superman Alienation

[gimmen64]

Superman: The Last Son of Krypton

[Dan33977]

i think it should be called "superman: the Big Blue Bird"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :super::super::super::supes::supes::supes::super:

[WhatsHisFace]

Superman: Last Son of Krypton.



Because his son will DIE!!! :D

[Mr. Socko]

Superman: Thank Singer for Killing it

[Superman4ever]

Superman: Last Son of Krypton.

Because his son will DIE!!! :D

hhhmmmmmm....:yellow:

[nogster]

SUPERMAN 2 RETURNS: the wrath of zod!

[Kal-El 8]

THE MAN OF STEEL !!!! :super:

[Venom71]

Clark Kent: Superman

[That-Guy]

Superman: The Wrath of Kumar

Superman Rehashed

Richard Donner's Superman II

Superman Vs. Jason

[Immortalfire]

Wow so what do you think of The dark knight genius?
When naming the movie, Singer probably considered the title Batman begins: a name and a verb. Its a clear parallel
It would make for a very cool parallel if they named the new Superman flick The man of steal: same structure as The dark knight. If you read my sig genius, you'd know what I think.

[I Am The Knight]

The Man Of Steel Or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love Super-powered Kids.

[Union Jack]

superman II - Apokalips now.
have darkseid the main villain.


tho i do like man of steel.

[That-Guy]

S2: Supermen United

Lex Luthor: The Bald and the Beautiful

Superman and Piano Chucker, the Boy Blunder

Lois and Clark: The Neutered Adventures of Superman

Superman: Honey, I Shrunk the "S"

Superman and The Money Pit of Terror

[Isildur´s Heir]

Superman II: The sequel to the sequel that wasn´t a sequel in the fist place

Superman II: How to bang Lois Lane without she noticing it

Superman II: How to survive having a piece of Kryptonite in your back for half a day

[The Kid]

Well now I just have to join the fun...

Jason Returns

I'm the Piano Man

Superman in, the return of the wigs

Superman 6: Marsden gets the shaft.

Superman Forever

Superman And Superboy

Lex Luthor Strikes back

The Adventures of Superboy: The motion Picture

Passion of the Clark

Superman Returns II: Taking the same Journey...

Attack of the Flying Pianos

You're out, Marsden

Superman 6: How to cook a dog

And lastly...

Wrath of Zod.

[boydston_14]

I actually like Superman Lives the best. I don't know why, though, I guess beacuse it just fits in with SR's title, though Man of Steel would be cool too.

[Batman1939]

The Man Of Steel DAMMIT!

[BobJM]

Man of Steel

Superman: Legacy

Superman

Superman II

[Seen]

Superpussy. Superboring. Supergay. Singersuperdumb. Supergirlish.

Btw, loved SUPERMAN RETURNS. :D

[DavidTyler]

How about

Superman: Watch How Singer Screws It Up This Time

[Masut]

How about

Superman: Watch How Singer Screws It Up This Time

Meh.

The Man of Steel is the best choice by far.

[Venom71]

Meh.

The Man of Steel is the best choice by far.

I agree :super:

[BobJM]

I agree :super:

As do I.

[Superman4ever]

^^ So it's settled. By ruling of the hype courts the sequel will be titled The Man of Steel! :woot:

The fans have spoken. :ninja:

[The Kid]

Nay, I object!

I still like: The attack of the flying pianos

[matrix_ghost]

Nay, I object!

I still like: The attack of the flying pianos

'Best POST EVER :woot:

[Superfreak]

I'd go like this.

SRII: The Last Son Of Krypton, this story would revolve around the death of Jason.

SRIII: The Man of Steel, this story would revolve around Metallo

That way, the titles aren't just titles for titles sake. They make sense, and represent the movies they are. I hate it when they just attach words to a title to make it sound cool and profound, while not really describing the movie they stand for, (example: Batman forever, that movie had nothing to do with eternity, in any way shape or form).

My way, they are cliche titles of Superman stories, but they have some meaning to them, make sense?

[SuperDaniel]

I`d say make "Man of Steel" and its the story of Richard becoming Metallo and also Superman being the hero we all know he is. Also, seeds are planted to show Brainiac in the third movie

[Immortalfire]

Say NO to Man of Steel. Naming a movie after the hero's nickname is....how shall I put this; stupid.

[Superfreak]

Say NO to Man of Steel. Naming a movie after the hero's nickname is....how shall I put this; stupid.

that's why I say, if the title is to be Man Of Steel, there should be a reason for that. If the MOS titled movie had Metallo as the villain, then the title has some sort of significance. My earlier post on this page explains my perspective on super titles.

[That-Guy]

Agreed. I think the title should only be "The Man of Steel" if, at some point during the film, Lex Luthor shoots Superman with a ray gun that actually turns him to steel.

[IronMan_2005]

Superman: The Man of Steel or just "The Man of Steel"

Superman 2: Kryptonians United

Superman 2: Attack of the Clones

S2: Judgement Day

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Fans have already decided they want "Superman: Man of Steel"

That is how it shall be.

[Smegger56]

Say NO to Man of Steel. Naming a movie after the hero's nickname is....how shall I put this; stupid.

I take it you hate the title 'The Dark Night' then?

What's wrong with doing this. It shows something different to other comic films. I for one, think 'Man Of Steal', if used, would be a very good title, just like 'The Dark Night' is a very good title for Batman.

[Superman4ever]

Fans have already decided they want "Superman: Man of Steel"

That is how it shall be.

We have spoken...:ninja:




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:ninja:

[sag002]

Superman Returns...Again. (Joke. Rest are serious.)
Superman: Solitude
Superman: Man of Tomorrow.
The Death of Superman (Why not?)
Superman: Metalurgy (spelling? Metallo)
Superman: Blood Line
Superman & Batman: World's Finest (again, why not?)
Superman: Man of Tomorrow Never Dies. (nah)
Oh, and of course Superman: Man of Steel

[blake]

Son of Superman :whatever:

No, really... Superman Doomsday

[emblemcomics]

Superman Ascends

Supeman: Man Of Tomorrow

Superman Triumphs

Superman/Doomsday


or just play it safe:

Superman: Dead Man's Chest

[emblemcomics]

Legend of Superman

Superman & Robin (um.. maybe it's not such a good idea...)

[matthooper]

Superman : This One Won't Suck

[ChickenScratch]

I like The Man Of Steel! Also it could be:

Superman - Sorry we screwed up the last one
Superman - We got a better writer this time
Superman - Not acting like a ***** this time

[halfapple]

Superman : Legacy of Steel

...because I don't think the writers will just give up on Jason.

[ChickenScratch]

Superman - The Suit Now Has Nipples

[batlovescatDC]

Superman: Legacy

Superman: A New Dawn

[Morgoth]

Superman Forever

Superman and Robin

Superman once more

Superman again

Superman is back yet again

Superman farts in a tuba

Superman international man of steel

Superman in Kryptonite Member

Superman The Kryptonian who shagged me

Superman part 4 ...kind of

Superman Back in Black

Superman To Metropolis with Love

Superman ONE MORE TIME

Superman: Let's see if Singer can do a little bit better this time, so the fanboys'll shut up!

[darthbakpao]

SUPERMEH : Still Meh

[murdock_matt]

If WB fast tracks this film, I would imagine they will go with "Man of Steel" just to create a connection with Batman. And if so they will probably start working on the crossover film beforer one of the franchises starts to go (more) south.

[Parker]

I'm good with Man of Steel. But if the subtitle absolutely has to be some type of adverb, I'd go with Superman Reborn.

[M.O.Steel]

IF you're going to use Man of Steel, go with Superman: Man of Steel, not just MOS.

[ross2287]

Superman: Escalation.

:-P

[mmx915]

Superman Leaves Again

[Thot]

Superman: The Motion Picture You Should've Gotten Last Time
Superman: Death of Singerman
Superman: The Return of Donner
Superman: CGI Reeve
Superman: Don't Shoot, I'm Only The Piano Pusher!
Superman: SuperTyke's Papa

But Seriously:

Superman: Man of Steel would be perfect. It's generic enough to signal a return to the classic Supes fans want and the general public will recognize. The title doesn't have to be specifically descriptive to get an idea across about the general concept of a movie, character or story.

[Thot]

I'd go like this.

SRII: The Last Son Of Krypton, this story would revolve around the death of Jason.

SRIII: The Man of Steel, this story would revolve around Metallo

That way, the titles aren't just titles for titles sake. They make sense, and represent the movies they are. I hate it when they just attach words to a title to make it sound cool and profound, while not really describing the movie they stand for, (example: Batman forever, that movie had nothing to do with eternity, in any way shape or form).

My way, they are cliche titles of Superman stories, but they have some meaning to them, make sense?

The title Batman Forever was specifically descriptive of Bruce Wayne's internal struggle to accept his destiny as the Dark Knight. This is clearly illustrated near the end when he tells Riddler that he's not the Batman because he has to be, but rather because he chooses to be. Hence, he is choosing to be Batman "Forever".

[ScottishFogg]

Superman: Till Kingdom Come

[dude love]

Superman: Snakes on a Plane.

[Morgoth]

Superman: Where's my peanut butter and jelly sammich?!

Superman and the temple of doomsday

Superman Raiders of the lost footage

Superman : The never ending battle

Superman I'll hump your leg for a dollar.

Superman: Eat me

Superman eatin' ham

Superman and the fast food tie in

[The Don Killuminati]

nothing with Zod in it. hopefully singer doesnt copy the entire reeves franchise, SR is in too many ways like S:the movie, for zod to be in the second one would be even worse. maybe the third one will have richard pryor and the fourth have hydrogen bomb man instead of nuclear man.

Superman: Darkseid (in this movie darkseid dies but turns out to be the one who unleashes doomsday at the end.)

third move

The Death of Superman

end trilogy because singer isnt good enough to make more than 3(much less one)

[Retroman]

THE MAN OF STEEL !!!! :super:
:cool: :up:

[scifiwolf]

Superman Goes Away and Comes Back...Again
Sumperman: The Next-to-Last Son of Krypton

In all seriousness though, I like Man of Steel the best

[scifiwolf]

lol - my first post in forever was a double. feels good to be back

:D

[mehdi5]

Superman: Man of Steel or SVS: Spider-Man VS. Superman lol

[ariellem]

SVS: Spider-Man VS. Superman lol

Or goofier (yes, these are jokes, people :word:):
Superman vs. Wolverine (talk about opposite attitudes...)
Superman Falls for Dark Angel (very mixed metaphors, but it would be fun to see Jessica Alba kicking you-know-what again and also kissing Routh, or he's trying to kiss her and she's trying to beat him up)
Superman vs. Xena (combo of previous two)
Superman vs. Hercules (Kevin Sorbo has wanted to play Superman; hasn't yet gotten the role)
Superman vs. Mighty Mouse (action-animation combo a la Roger Rabbit - I watched Mighty Mouse a ton as a kid and my mom swears I was even more into Mighty Mouse than Superman for a while)
SRII: WW/B (Lois dies; Superman goes for Wonder Woman; WW tries out that idea but ultimately decides she prefers the excitement and unpredictability of the flawed, brooding Dark Knight over sunny Boy Blue; the latter is again heartbroken)
SuperWHO? (Lex finds some way to give ordinary mortals Superman-like powers, and all of Metropolis starts dressing and acting like Superman. Mid-air collisions become a daily occurrence. They cease to notice the true Man of Steel. Ignored, distraught, Superman flies himself into the sun.)

[Slipping_Halo]

They should call it what it is: Singerman.

[WormyT]

They should call it
Superman Begins: P.S. not a Bryan SInger movie.

[Kabuki_Jo]

They should call it
Superman Begins: P.S. not a Bryan SInger movie.

Nice.

[Eggyman]

Depends what the story's about, I suppose.

[Mr. Socko]

Superman: Man of Steel, Only way it can be done :o

[Darkred]

Superman: Man of Steel, Only way it can be done :o



I agree.

Naming it just MAN OF STEEL is really cool but its already being done by THE DARK KNIGHT.

I had an idea of a trilogy going something like:

SUPERMAN RETURNS
SUPERMAN DIES
SUPERMAN LIVES

I m not sure about the second one and whether people would go to see it but something like that. You know, a trilogy connected using the titles of the name. I dont know:huh:

[dark_b]

didnt nolon said that there is a reason why teh title is the dark knight? well i guess they first need to finish the script or at least have a draft to have a title for the sequel.

[The Dude]

Superman IV: The Quest for More Money

[Katsuro]

that's why I say, if the title is to be Man Of Steel, there should be a reason for that. If the MOS titled movie had Metallo as the villain, then the title has some sort of significance. My earlier post on this page explains my perspective on super titles.

That's a terrible idea. Man of Steel is Superman's nickname, not Metallo's. Calling a movie with Metallo in it MoS would serve only to confuse the audience, unless you call it Men of Steel or something.

[Black Goblin]

So, lets begin!

What should the title be? SR2 or something else like "The Man of Steel"?

Superman Returns: Returns

[P.B.&Chocolate]

Superman : The Wrath of New Krypton :o

I'm okay with Man of Steel though .

[sundaycall]

Superman:The Man of Steel would do

The Death of Superman

Superman Lives

Superman: I Don't Drive a Tank but I'm still Relevant?

Superman: Nuclear Man Strikes Back

Superman: He's in this one for more than 30 minutes

Superman Speaks

Superman is Keysor Soze

American Dad : Superman

Superman goes to Summer Camp

[Bad Superman]

Superman Returns: Barely

[saint sinner x]

I'll tell you which titles will sound ignorant "THE MAN OF STEEL" and "SUPERMAN STAYS". I would name the sequel

SUPERMAN:FATE OF DESTINY
SUPERMAN: REIGN OF JUSTICE
SUPERMAN VERACITY

[WormyT]

I quite like the SR theme.

Superman Ruined

[ntbone]

Superman Returns: Returns
hahaha. awesome! :up: how about: "Superman vs Chuck Norris"? i'd pay to see that!

[Anjow1060]

Superman: Man of steel

Source: http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_d4j_ezine&task=read&page=1&category=featured&article=632&Itemid=27

Kinda mirrors TDK........I like it.

[ToddIsDead]

I really like it.

[Aquaman]

against Jo-Rel and his son Ka-Lel.

Heh. Thats sad.


Anyways. Man of Steel sounds good.

[superkong 500]

from ign:November 9, 2006 - With Bryan Singer now confirmed as the director of the next Superman movie, the rumor mill has offered up what may very well be the title for the sequel.

According to IESB.net, the working title for the follow-up to Superman Returns will be Superman: The Man of Steel. The site says Warner Bros. had no comment.

Singer advised fans at this year's Comic-Con (http://movies.ign.com/articles/720/720689p1.html) that the sequel will be the Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan to the first film's Star Trek: The Motion Picture, meaning more action and less talk.

In related news, The Honolulu Advertiser caught up with Bryan Singer and learned that the Superman sequel "will likely begin production mid- to late next year in a location yet to be determined."

X-Men veteran Singer also expressed interest in helming Hugh Jackman's Wolverine (http://movies.ign.com/objects/034/034461.html) spinoff.

[blueboy]

Think they'll keep the Superman in?

Or they'll have it fly solo along the lines of "The Dark Knight"?

[DCW]

I don't know, but I would love either one of those titles!

[Freddy_Krueger]

Hmmm, you gotta wonder how legit it is. It can't exactly have a title without some form of script can it? Although I do quite like The Man of Steel. It mirrors the Dark Knight title nicely.

[Retroman]

I love that title and i hope they use it. Somone suggested it in this forum. Heres the full story....

Superman Sequel Has A Working Title


Written by Robert Sanchez
Thursday, 09 November 2006

A few weeks ago, we broke the story that director Bryan Singer had signed on to direct the sequel to Superman Returns. This week, we can reveal that the new film does in fact have a working title.


While we can’t guarantee that this will be the final title of the film, as of right now the sequel project is being referred to as Superman: The Man of Steel.

What you think?

For me, I like it. Simple, nostalgic…it conjures up thoughts of major action that was lacking a bit in “Returns.” Actually, it’s very similar to Nolan’s The Dark Knight, if they decide to drop the Superman part.

I contacted the reps over at Warner Bros. to ask if they had any comment regarding the working title. The official response earlier today was "no comment."

Update

We just received a quick note from a WB rep who believes that the working title of The Man of Steel may not be accurate. We have double checked our sources and we are being told that even though it is early, that is the name being used for now.

So while it’s too early to tell what to expect in the new film, considering there is no script as of yet, Bryan and his merry band of writers know exactly where they are headed.

Like any good filmmaker, Bryan has laid the groundwork and has confirmed there are many clues in “Returns” that hint to what direction the sequel will take. He has also said that the next film will be very, “Wrath of Khan.”

If I had to take an educated guess, Jason White, his love child with Lois Lane, is going to be a big focus of the sequel. If I had to take another educated guess, Superman will be challenged by his old nemesis, General Zod.

However, Zod will not be alone in his quest of vengeance against Jo-Rel and his son Ka-Lel. I believe that Zod will team up with other villains and maybe, just maybe, his cross hairs will be aimed directly at The Man of Steel’s heir, Jason White.

What’s for certain? Only that The Man of Steel will be back on the big screen mid-2009.
Source: http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_d4j_ezine&task=read&page=1&category=featured&article=632&Itemid=27

[Soap]

Superman: Man of steel

Source: http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_d4j_ezine&task=read&page=1&category=featured&article=632&Itemid=27

Kinda mirrors TDK........I like it.

Yeah, that was brought up back when TDK was confirmed as the title. I wouldn't be surprised either if that ends up being the final title.

[Parker]

I'm down with Man of Steel. That's the smarter choice, anyway.

If they continue with the "Returns, Lives, Begins " material, they'll be doing it that way until the film series is over, and there are only so many catchy singular subtitles that end in "s".

[The Kid]

It's not going to be called, THE CHALLENGE OF THE SUEPRFRIENDS?

I'm dissapointed.

I think in the end it'll be called LUTHOR STRIKES BACK or SUPERMAN VS ANOTHER GREAT BIG CHUNK OF LUTHOR REAL ESTATE or WRATH OF THE WIGS.

[raybia]

If I had to take an educated guess, Jason White, his love child with Lois Lane, is going to be a big focus of the sequel. If I had to take another educated guess, Superman will be challenged by his old nemesis, General Zod.

However, Zod will not be alone in his quest of vengeance against Jo-Rel and his son Ka-Lel. I believe that Zod will team up with other villains and maybe, just maybe, his cross hairs will be aimed directly at The Man of Steel’s heir, Jason White.




Oh yeah I'm really looking forward to this. It has "Wrath of Khan written all over it. :whatever:

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Sounds like a good title, i'd be happy with that.

[Octoberist]

you know what's so sad?

Because Superman Returns wasn't the event movie of the year (sorry if you're a fan, I'm not trying to be cynical), there's pressure on Singer's part to 'deliever' with the sequel.

And from I can tell, Singer is putting his smaller movie (about the gay mayor of San Fran) on hold. Doesn't that suck?

[Super Kal]

If I had to take an educated guess, Jason White, his love child with Lois Lane, is going to be a big focus of the sequel. If I had to take another educated guess, Superman will be challenged by his old nemesis, General Zod.

However, Zod will not be alone in his quest of vengeance against Jo-Rel and his son Ka-Lel. I believe that Zod will team up with other villains and maybe, just maybe, his cross hairs will be aimed directly at The Man of Steel’s heir, Jason White.




Oh yeah I'm really looking forward to this. It has "Wrath of Khan written all over it. :whatever:
lol, more like Wrath of the Ripoff if you ask me...

[Freddy_Krueger]

you know what's so sad?

Because Superman Returns wasn't the event movie of the year (sorry if you're a fan, I'm not trying to be cynical), there's pressure on Singer's part to 'deliever' with the sequel.

And from I can tell, Singer is putting his smaller movie (about the gay mayor of San Fran) on hold. Doesn't that suck?

I wouldn't say that it sucks. It just goes to show how hard he's willing to work to keep the franchise alive and to hopefully appease fans who may have been disappointed with Returns. Say what you will about the man, but he obviously cares.

[Octoberist]

yeah, but i'm saying there's more pressure on Singer's part now. He can't do the smaller indie movie like what Nolan did with The Prestiage.

Think about it: It's been....almost 6-7 years since Singer actually did a non-comic book movie.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

It's not going to be called, THE CHALLENGE OF THE SUEPRFRIENDS?

I'm dissapointed.

I think in the end it'll be called LUTHOR STRIKES BACK or SUPERMAN VS ANOTHER GREAT BIG CHUNK OF LUTHOR REAL ESTATE or WRATH OF THE WIGS.

How about SUPERMAN AND THE RISE OF THE PIANO CHUCKER? Or WRATH OF THE STEINWAY? :woot:

Superman Man of Steel is good. It brings with it great responsibilties though.

[Motown Marvel]

If I had to take an educated guess, Jason White, his love child with Lois Lane, is going to be a big focus of the sequel. If I had to take another educated guess, Superman will be challenged by his old nemesis, General Zod.

However, Zod will not be alone in his quest of vengeance against Jo-Rel and his son Ka-Lel. I believe that Zod will team up with other villains and maybe, just maybe, his cross hairs will be aimed directly at The Man of Steel’s heir, Jason White.




Oh yeah I'm really looking forward to this. It has "Wrath of Khan written all over it. :whatever:

lol, more like Wrath of the Ripoff if you ask me...
you guys do realize that this ISNT singer's story and is just random speculation from an internet dork who has absolutely no basis for said speculation, right? so, dont jump the gun and start blaming singer for this guy's lame story.

[Super Kal]

I realize that, but after his little charade in SR, I don't have much faith in this director...

[raybia]

you guys do realize that this ISNT singer's story and is just random speculation from an internet dork who has absolutely no basis for said speculation, right? so, dont jump the gun and start blaming singer for this guy's lame story.


You make a point, but it sounds like a story that Singer either would do OR may have no choice but to do.

Singer messed up bringing this kid into the picture but now that he's here you have to address him in the next movie. No way around it...unless WB starts from scratch which is NOT going to happen.

So even if that is not the actual plot, it will be similar to it.

[Motown Marvel]

You make a point, but it sounds like a story that Singer either would do OR may have no choice but to do.

Singer messed up bringing this kid into the picture but now that he's here you have to address him in the next movie. No way around it...unless WB starts from scratch which is NOT going to happen.

So even if that is not the actual plot, it will be similar to it.

why does that sound like a story singer would do? what in SR would give you the impression this is the story he's gonna be telling? you have no idea what he's gonna do. just because you didnt like SR, dont pick up on some lame half assed fanboy attempt speculating on the story and say thats likely what singer is gonna do.

and of course the kid is something he's gonna have to address, thats why he put him in the film in the first place!! do you really think they put him in there not knowing where they were gonna go with his character?

[Motown Marvel]

I realize that, but after his little charade in SR, I don't have much faith in this director...
its one thing not to have faith in him....its another thing to blame him for some fanboy's lame story idea.

[raybia]

why does that sound like a story singer would do? what in SR would give you the impression this is the story he's gonna be telling? you have no idea what he's gonna do. just because you didnt like SR, dont pick up on some lame half assed fanboy attempt speculating on the story and say thats likely what singer is gonna do.

As I already explained, based on the events of SR, the plot that is given in this article sounds like a logic follow up of what Singer will ultimately deliver. Even if this story is mere speculation, it really doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the heart of this movie will focus of Superman and his son.

and of course the kid is something he's gonna have to address, thats why he put him in the film in the first place!! do you really think they put him in there not knowing where they were gonna go with his character?




And that is why my friend that Superman Returns sucks sour frog azz.

[raybia]

its one thing not to have faith in him....its another thing to blame him for some fanboy's lame story idea.

But its Singer lame story idea in SR that demands a lame continuation of that story. :csad:

[lujho]

It can't exactly have a title without some form of script can it?

Of course it can! Why on earth would not having a script yet preclude the possibility of a title?

[Freddy_Krueger]

Of course it can! Why on earth would not having a script yet preclude the possibility of a title?

Simply because the title tends to allow the audience know what the film is going to be about. I'm not saying that The Man of Steel isn't the working title (I do hope it is), I'm just saying that most movies don't have a title until a script or an outline is hammered out.


Unless it's based on a novel, anyway. :)

[chosen1]

I believe I predicted this.


Man I know batman begins was a good film but when you watch smallville. they are seriously taking themes from BB. Now w/ the title TDK. I predicted this almost six months ago just going off of the batman sequel title.

Superman You cannot Compete.

[lordofthenerds]

I like it. A lot of people here suggested that as a title after we heard about that BB2 would be titled The Dark Knight.

[WormyT]

I read that the official title is Superman fullhouse.

I personally love it. It brings a sence of family and unity to the sequel. It's lighthearted yet shows the difficulty one must face when raising a family. This movies for everyone and this time the there will be plenty of tom foolery in the kent house.
This movie will be fun for the whole family.
I invite ALL of you to join me the experiance that is Superman Fullhouse. In theatres 2009.

[bunk]

I like it. A lot of people here suggested that as a title after we heard about that BB2 would be titled The Dark Knight.


*sigh* I have officially no life.

[lordofthenerds]

*sigh* I have officially no life.
lol...that happens to a lot of people. :cwink:

[The Kid]

How about SUPERMAN AND THE RISE OF THE PIANO CHUCKER? Or WRATH OF THE STEINWAY? :woot:

Superman Man of Steel is good. It brings with it great responsibilties though.

Daddy of Steel seems more appropriate though, Solid.:ninja:

http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/1487/1do1.jpg

[Thot]

The Man of Steel would be a great title. Too bad Singer will probably be directing. I have ZERO faith in him.

[Motown Marvel]

As I already explained, based on the events of SR, the plot that is given in this article sounds like a logic follow up of what Singer will ultimately deliver. Even if this story is mere speculation, it really doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the heart of this movie will focus of Superman and his son.
the problem is, there are hundreds of stories that can be developed from the events of SR, good ones and bad ones. this fanboy came up with a completly conventional bad one....and you blame it on singer...and thats total B.S.

[I Am The Knight]

I hope they do use MOS as the title. Now regarding the story, I don't see what the big problem is with having Zod AND another villain.

[CConn]

Considering Superman's relationship with his son was a subplot in SR, I think it would be logical for it to continue to be a subplot in the sequel.

Of course, that's as much speculation as what the CHUD dude said.

[Freddy_Krueger]

I don't see what the big problem is with having Zod AND another villain.

Neither do I. Preferably a Zod/Brainiac team-up. With, of course, Brainiac screwing Zod over in the end. ;)

[dude love]

Neither do I. Preferably a Zod/Brainiac team-up. With, of course, Zod killing Superman and Braniac and taking over the world in the end. ;)

Fixed that for you.

Yeah, MOS is a great title. I was hoping for The Wrath of Zod, but hopefully Braniac, Darksied or Doomsday are the villains.

[JayKay]

I hope they do use MOS as the title. Now regarding the story, I don't see what the big problem is with having Zod AND another villain.That isn't the plot synopsis. That's speculation from the author of the article.

[Immortalfire]

Down with nickname titles. Come up with a freakin real title.

[bunk]

I wouldn't mind if the sequel started out with Zod seeking out Braniac for help in killing Superman. In the first 10 minutes Zod finds Braniac, frees him or activates him or something and Braniac immediately kills him.

[04nbod]

looks like WB is setting a standard in its sequel names like fox is now a fan of its : titles. Makes me wonder what the flash will be called maybe flash: fastest man alive- lame but you know where i'm going.

[raybia]

the problem is, there are hundreds of stories that can be developed from the events of SR, good ones and bad ones. this fanboy came up with a completly conventional bad one....and you blame it on singer...and thats total B.S.

Dude/Chick, whatever you are, You don't get it do you?

I'm not blaming Singer for the sucky story this fanboy came up with.

I'm blaming Singer for the sucky story that he came up with in Superman Returns.

As a consequence of that sucky story, I'm also blaming Singer for the unavoidable sucky story that will result in the sequel to SR.

Name this turkey "Boy of Steel". I guarantee it will fit the focus of the story.

[JayKay]

Dude/Chick, whatever you are, You don't get it do you?

I'm not blaming Singer for the sucky story this fanboy came up with.

I'm blaming Singer for the sucky story that he came up with in Superman Returns.

As a consequence of that sucky story, I'm also blaming Singer for the unavoidable sucky story that will result in the sequel to SR.

Name this turkey "Boy of Steel". I guarantee it will fit the focus of the story.Why does Singer need to be blamed for telling the story he wanted to tell?

Just because you don't like SR doesn't mean Singer did a bad thing.

[CConn]

Dude/Chick, whatever you are, You don't get it do you?

I'm not blaming Singer for the sucky story this fanboy came up with.

I'm blaming Singer for the sucky story that he came up with in Superman Returns.

As a consequence of that sucky story, I'm also blaming Singer for the unavoidable sucky story that will result in the sequel to SR.

Name this turkey "Boy of Steel". I guarantee it will fit the focus of the story.Ah, so it's preemptive *****ing.

I wonder how all those poor Iraqis would feel about that.

[raybia]

Why does Singer need to be blamed for telling the story he wanted to tell?

Just because you don't like SR doesn't mean Singer did a bad thing.

Singer is responsible for telling a bad story: A story that is so many ways fails and has many faults. But to Singer's defense, WB is to blame to, because once he told them his plans that should have passed. The greenlighted this subpar story so ultimately they are to blame.

To remind you what was broken with SR, here is a story about how to fix it (and believe me, it needs fixing)

Here we go again. After the disappointing "Superman Returns" hit theaters this summer and took months to eke its way across the $200-million mark in box-office receipts, Warner Bros. has cautiously announced that a second Bryan Singer-directed installment of the series is being developed for a 2009 release. In part because of its large budget (a debatable figure, but even the studio admits it was significantly more than $200 million), Warner expected bigger bucks and fans expected more bang. Still, Warner Bros. is showing loyalty to Singer by bringing him back to direct. Because Singer has been given another chance, the yet-to-be determined screenwriters should consider these helpful suggestions:

Ditch the Kid
Talk about backing yourself into a corner. Introducing the offspring of Lois and Clark forces the franchise to go in a direction that may be a little too "Sky High" let alone "Smallville: The Elementary Years." Send him off to private school or make his human blood diminish his Kryptonian powers until puberty, but do something. A series of movies about Superman as a dad can be summed up in two words: beyond boring.

Action! Action! Action!
Duh. Fans have fond memories of "Superman II" because of those flying battles with General Zod and his crew. It wasn't the Niagara Falls honeymoon sequence that they adored. Screenwriting in the 21st century has to be more creative than having Superman save a space shuttle from crashing, right?

Less Glamour, More Reality for Lois
Fans had concerns about Kate Bosworth being cast as Lois Lane, and although she wasn't awful, the chemistry between her and Brandon Routh was almost nonexistent. More importantly, her character had previously been given a well-rounded edge by Margot Kidder more than 25 years ago. Bosworth's picture-perfect ensembles never made you believe she was a beat reporter, let alone a Pulitzer Prize winner.

More Real Americans Please
From the Daily Planet newsroom to Metropolis street scenes, if one thing was glaringly missing from the latest "Superman," it was a sense that America was a multiracial society. And no, Kal Penn as one of Luthor's henchmen doesn't count ... especially because he didn't have one real line in the movie.

Allow Funny Actors to Be Funny
If Kevin Spacey's Lex Luthor had to be so evil to differentiate himself from Gene Hackman's charming portrayal, it's one thing, but to waste Parker Posey's comic talents by providing her only one funny line is a crime. Even Hugh Jackman's Wolverine got more laughs in Singer's "X-Men" movies.

Better Villains Are Key
Luthor is clearly Superman's arch nemesis, but repeating the land-grabbing premise from "Superman: The Movie" was beyond lame. Somehow, Singer needs to bring in more dangerous foes such as Brainiac and Doomsday to up the ante.

What would you like to see in the next "Superman" movie? Send your thoughts and comments to buzz@microsoft.com

[raybia]

Ah, so it's preemptive *****ing.

I wonder how all those poor Iraqis would feel about that.

Once they see SR I'm sure they would understanding, but considering their present situation I'm sure they don't give a rat's azz.

[zer00]

Once they see SR I'm sure they would understanding, but considering their present situation I'm sure they don't give a rat's azz.
oh you're going to make me BLOW UP with anger!

[raybia]

You mean you didn't already blow up after viewing SR? I know I did.

[CConn]

You mean you didn't already blow up after viewing SR? I know I did.Must you always be so ugly?

[zer00]

You mean you didn't already blow up after viewing SR? I know I did.
If a butterfly flew by your computer screen will it distract you?

[JayKay]

Singer is responsible for telling a bad story: A story that is so many ways fails and has many faults. But to Singer's defense, WB is to blame to, because once he told them his plans that should have passed. The greenlighted this subpar story so ultimately they are to blame.

To remind you what was broken with SR, here is a story about how to fix it (and believe me, it needs fixing)
You act like what you are saying is undeniable fact.

[raybia]

Must you always be so ugly?

I just call it the way I see it,

[raybia]

You act like what you are saying is undeniable fact.

Doesn't matter what I say about it or how I feel. This movie was what it was.

The movie was universally panned by movie reviewers and barely made its money back.

Don't hate me for it, I'm just a messenger.

[ToddIsDead]

Doesn't matter what I say about it or how I feel. This movie was what it was.

The movie was universally panned by movie reviewers and barely made its money back.

Don't hate me for it, I'm just a messenger.
So, not a single soul liked the movie? News to me.

[Maze]

The movie was universally panned by movie reviewers

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/superman_returns/

Learn your facts messenger.;)

[raybia]

So, not a single soul liked the movie? News to me.


I never said that, but more reviewers rated it avg. or worse than those who rated it above avg.,

[ToddIsDead]

I never said that, but more reviewers rated it avg. or worse than those who rated it above avg.
That's a LOT different than being universally panned.

[zer00]

I just call it the way I see it,No, you whine endlessly.

[CConn]

I never said that, but more reviewers rated it avg. or worse than those who rated it above avg.That's entirely untrue.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/superman_returns/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0348150/
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=237842

If what you say is true, than SR's ratings at those sites would be 5/10 or lower. Obviously, that's not the case at all. Even at the Hype itself, it got quite favorable ratings.

I have no problem with anyone disliking the movie, I just wish they could wrap their heads around the fact that, as shocking as it may be, most people did like Superman Returns. I mean, jeez, I think Revenge of the Sith is crap on a stick, but I can still admit most people liked it.

[raybia]

No, you whine endlessly.


I do? Please explain your justification for that remark.

[raybia]

That's entirely untrue.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/superman_returns/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0348150/
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=237842

If what you say is true, than SR's ratings at those sites would be 5/10 or lower. Obviously, that's not the case at all. Even at the Hype itself, it got quite favorable ratings.

I have no problem with anyone disliking the movie, I just wish they could wrap their heads around the fact that, as shocking as it may be, most people did like Superman Returns. I mean, jeez, I think Revenge of the Sith is crap on a stick, but I can still admit most people liked it.

Based on those sites, you are right. Unfortunately, my expectations for this movie both financially and critically was higher. SR shouldn't have been a movie that once it was released, received little positive fanfare.

[CConn]

Based on those sites, you are right. Unfortunately, my expectations for this movie both financially and critically was higher. SR shouldn't have been a movie that once it was released, received little positive fanfare.Ironically, I said just that right after I made my last post...
I think the problem with Superman fans is, they think average is 9 out of 10 stars.And that's just what happened, wasn't it? Well, IMO, that sounds like a problem with your expectations rather than the movie itself.

[zer00]

I do? Please explain your justification for that remark.
I'd link to your posts since the start of time. But that would take effort. And quite frankly

**** it

[raybia]

I'd link to your posts since the start of time. But that would take effort. And quite frankly

**** it


Maybe its best to not make such statements. No good comes from them.

[Corben_Rulz]

May I contribute to this thread?

I know people who liked it, I know people who walked out of it. Here's my take, IMHO:

PEOPLE WHO LIKED IT SAY:

1. It had heart
2. It was beautifully filmed
3. There was a character-driven story
4. He was the classic Superman - completely selfless

PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T LIKE IT SAY:

1. Stalking Lois
2. Not enough action
3. Superman wasn't likeable as a "person" - he came across as robotic and lacked charm.
4. Lex's plot was ridiculous
5. No Supervillian


I personally think the movie had some extremely big fundamental flaws, aside from the story. Superman was all wrong. Chris Reeve's Superman was uber-charming. You want to hug him when he smiles. Routh's Superman was someone you want to say "thanks" to and move on. There was simply no chemistry between Lois and Supes - Bosworth was awful. The movie never kicked into overdrive. It was edited extremely poorly, paced poorly, and, as a musician for 20 years, I thought Ottman's music was horrendous - not just bad, horrendous. It took away from the film.

Watch the shirt rip scene again. Oh, what a disaster that is. It should have been built up so much that you almost wet yourself watching it. Instead it was like a fleeting afterthought that you'd miss if you blinked.

Bad movie, IMO. Very, very bad.

[raybia]

I totally agree with your assessment. This movie was basically a sequel to SII and that is where Singer and WB went wrong. There was absolutely no reason to go in that direction.

The BB route was the logically way to go. Now its over.

[Kal-El 8]

Superman: Man of steel

Source: http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_d4j_ezine&task=read&page=1&category=featured&article=632&Itemid=27

Kinda mirrors TDK........I like it.

I'm not surprised it's the most logical title to go with . Rather than take the easy way out and say SUPERMAN 7 .

[FanboyX_Returns]

That's entirely untrue.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/superman_returns/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0348150/
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=237842

If what you say is true, than SR's ratings at those sites would be 5/10 or lower. Obviously, that's not the case at all. Even at the Hype itself, it got quite favorable ratings.

I have no problem with anyone disliking the movie, I just wish they could wrap their heads around the fact that, as shocking as it may be, most people did like Superman Returns. I mean, jeez, I think Revenge of the Sith is crap on a stick, but I can still admit most people liked it.

I can give you countless of bad reviews to back up the claim that it was universally panned.

Most important in hollywood would be Ebert & Roper... Both panned the movie... Facts are more people hated the movie then liked it, and those who gave it glowing reviews pre the movie's release were close friends to

Bryan Singer, and or studio plants to help create a buzz.
Hollywood does it all the time for really bad movies when they know they have a dud on their hands.

Same kind of hype was built for BATMAN & ROBIN, and CATWOMAN...

[Superman4ever]

Yes!!

I called it when I started the first thread on the SR sequel board: http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10045418&postcount=1

And if anyone say's other wise...I will finish them! :ninja:

:heart:

[Motown Marvel]

Dude/Chick, whatever you are, You don't get it do you?

I'm not blaming Singer for the sucky story this fanboy came up with.

I'm blaming Singer for the sucky story that he came up with in Superman Returns.

As a consequence of that sucky story, I'm also blaming Singer for the unavoidable sucky story that will result in the sequel to SR.

Name this turkey "Boy of Steel". I guarantee it will fit the focus of the story.
dude, you were totally b!tc#ing about the fanboys story speculation as if it were singers direct intentions to tell that story. otherwise, i never would have started any s#!t about it.

also, if you think that its unavoidable for a better non-sucky story to be told in the sequel, then you are clearly a closed minded pinhead.

also, as someone pointed out already....SR was generally well recieved by critics and audiences....deal with it, and quit trying to say otherwise.

[Motown Marvel]

I can give you countless of bad reviews to back up the claim that it was universally panned.

and i can give you three times as many reviews that are positive.

Most important in hollywood would be Ebert & Roper... Both panned the movie... Facts are more people hated the movie then liked it, and those who gave it glowing reviews pre the movie's release were close friends to

Bryan Singer, and or studio plants to help create a buzz.
Hollywood does it all the time for really bad movies when they know they have a dud on their hands.

Same kind of hype was built for BATMAN & ROBIN, and CATWOMAN...

this is the most ignorant thing i've ever heard in this forum. seriously? are you really so offended that the majority of people and critics enjoyed the film that you have to come up with contrived B.S. like this? its really quite sad. i mean, i can just as easily say that all the negative reviews came from opposing movie studio plants who were trying to drag down SR. people and critics liked the movie.....f**king deal with it and quit being a damn baby.

[Corben_Rulz]

I looked at some older reviews and it seems like many critics liked it. I picked some reviews that I thought were well known.

POSITIVE REVIEWS:


Variety (before release)
Rolling Stone (before release)
Efilmcritic (II) (after release)
Premiere Magazine (before release)
Philadelphia Weekly
New York Daily News (day before release)
New York Post
NEGATIVE REVIEWS:


LA Times (day before release)
Ebert (day before release)
Chicago Tribune
Efilmcritic (I) (day before before release)
Las Vegas Weekly
Reel.com
TV Guide
San Francisco Chronicle
MTV
NY Times
About.com

[JayKay]

I can give you countless of bad reviews to back up the claim that it was universally panned.

Most important in hollywood would be Ebert & Roper... Both panned the movie... Facts are more people hated the movie then liked it, and those who gave it glowing reviews pre the movie's release were close friends to

Bryan Singer, and or studio plants to help create a buzz.
Hollywood does it all the time for really bad movies when they know they have a dud on their hands.

Same kind of hype was built for BATMAN & ROBIN, and CATWOMAN...I'm not even going to give proof. You're just wrong.

[raybia]

dude, you were totally b!tc#ing about the fanboys story speculation as if it were singers direct intentions to tell that story. otherwise, i never would have started any s#!t about it.

also, if you think that its unavoidable for a better non-sucky story to be told in the sequel, then you are clearly a closed minded pinhead.

also, as someone pointed out already....SR was generally well recieved by critics and audiences....deal with it, and quit trying to say otherwise.

Well well, I think I struck a nerve. I find it very humorist how fans like me who didn't like SR and aren't afraid to say so and give reasons why we didn't like it are attacked and called names.

Did I personally attack Singer? NO. Did I personally attack anyone who enjoyed this movie? NO Did I personally attack you? NO. So who is the one who is truly b!tc#ing here?

Did I critique Singer's movie and his idea for this movie? YES And guess what? We all do it. Everything is critiqued/criticized.

I think that if my little ol' comments about my feeling on SR and speculation about Singer's sequel makes you hostile and take it as a personal attack then you really need to grow up and stop reacting like a child and get a life.

I would also take a break from Internet message boards for a while too because most of the people on them are not going to agree with you on many things and you'll find yourself calling every person a "closed-minded pinhead."

Seriously, you come across as a control freak, so stop with the "deal with it" and "quit trying to" comments, like that is really going to stop me from speaking my mind about SR, its sequel or anything else that I have "the freedom of speech" to express.

You may get away with that in your world but it makes you appear very foolish trying to do it on the internet.

[Maze]

I can give you countless of bad reviews to back up the claim that it was universally panned.

Most important in hollywood would be Ebert & Roper... Both panned the movie... Facts are more people hated the movie then liked it, and those who gave it glowing reviews pre the movie's release were close friends to

Bryan Singer, and or studio plants to help create a buzz.
Hollywood does it all the time for really bad movies when they know they have a dud on their hands.

Same kind of hype was built for BATMAN & ROBIN, and CATWOMAN...
Yup?

So, take a look at ratings on Catwoman (and B@r) then take a look at Superman Returns ,on rotten tomatoes , imdb (viewers are friends of Bryan Singer too? ) look on rotten tomatoes (ditto ), look on google , on Yahoo, look on Amazon etc etc

You didn't like it , half of the people here didn't like it .

And no ,Bryan Singer is not friends with the majority of critics stop pulling theories out of nowhere :The movie was well recieved (and about Ebert : he is known since some years to like movie that are often panned by the critics..like X3 for example .. ) like somebody said in another post we could say also that the bad critics come from rival studios..please..

Seriously ,so what? Even if the movie was not liked , is that so important to you that your opinion would be "the one"?if that reassure yourself recall yourself that it didn't make pirates number,it underperformed. Feeling better?But at the same time don't forget that after a month after the not so so brillant opening at the box office that it had legs ..even better than Batman Begins at the same period actually.(yep before arguing check man ;) )

Personnally ,there are a lot of movies that i don't like , which have been recieved either by the critics /and/or the general public .. why would i try to change the facts? I respect and even often understand that those movies have been well recieved .. i'm not a big fan for example of Kitano , Gus Van Sant movies, or the Lord of the Ring for example , but i understand why the critics, and the public like them , i see the art behind them , i can have some objectivity..It doesn't bother me that some like what i don't ..why would i gain in trying to pass my subjectivity as THE truth?

i hope that some people here are going to stop telling some of that non sense just to enforce their opinion of the movie (which again are often subjective imo ..i can find flaws in SR , but Batman and Robin , Catwoman level quality...please..even Forever quality would be laughable ..;) ).. Then the debates with some of you will be maybe more interesting.(Guys like mego Joe for example, are interesting even if we disagree a lot ..at least he doesn't try to invent a reality which doesn't exist )

ps: Does some people wan't to get back in topic or do they prefer to continue to go off topic with their twilight zone theories?

[RakuMon]

Hmmm... Superman: The Man of Steel would have been a cool title for a franchise starter. (Which also proves a "Return" movie makes no sense as an establishing film.)

But I thought Singer and co. should just continue harping Batman subtitles and called the next two: Superman Forever and Superman & Robin.

Who else thinks nipples on the Supersuit isn't that far behind?

[Motown Marvel]

Well well, I think I struck a nerve. I find it very humorist how fans like me who didn't like SR and aren't afraid to say so and give reasons why we didn't like it are attacked and called names.
oh quit trying to paint yourself as a helpless victim. i could care less if you didnt liked SR. you didnt like it, fine thats cool with me, your entitled to your opinion. i do believe i have made myself clear that that is NOT why i had a problem with what you were saying.

Did I personally attack Singer? NO. Did I personally attack anyone who enjoyed this movie? NO Did I personally attack you? NO. So who is the one who is truly b!tc#ing here?
no, you did none of these things, and i never accused you of such. instead you attempted to lay blame on singer for a fanboys lame idea, saying this is the logical progression of singers lame story and certainly what he'll likely deliver....which is complete BS speculation.

Did I critique Singer's movie and his idea for this movie? YES And guess what? We all do it. Everything is critiqued/criticized.

i have no problem with critiquing and criticising. have at it. just dont be placing blame where it dont belong.

I think that if my little ol' comments about my feeling on SR and speculation about Singer's sequel makes you hostile and take it as a personal attack then you really need to grow up and stop reacting like a child and get a life.

hostile? personal attack? your delusion, kid. aint nothing personal about this, and it aint hostile either. all im doing is calling someone out for not being fair. if you wanna criticise SR and such, again thats cool...at least try to be fair about it.

I would also take a break from Internet message boards for a while too because most of the people on them are not going to agree with you on many things and you'll find yourself calling every person a "closed-minded pinhead."

im not here to have everyone agree with me. im here to say what i have to say, and people can react to it however they want. and i only call someone closed minded when they deserve it. and someone who feels its absolutely impossibe to have a good quality sequel to SR, severely lacks imagination and is a closed minded pinhead.

Seriously, you come across as a control freak, so stop with the "deal with it" and "quit trying to" comments, like that is really going to stop me from speaking my mind about SR, its sequel or anything else that I have "the freedom of speech" to express.

control freak? im not trying to control anything. im just trying to keep things fair. and when you blatantly lie about something (like how critics and audiences reacted to SR), im gonna call you on it. and the truth is, the majority of people and critics reacted favoribly to SR. and instead of closing your eyes and covering your eyes trying to convince yourself otherwise and lying to other people about it....the fact of the matter is, people liked it....and that IS something your gonna have to deal with.

You may get away with that in your world but it makes you appear very foolish trying to do it on the internet.

you done now?

[raybia]

oh quit trying to paint yourself as a helpless victim. i could care less if you didnt liked SR. you didnt like it, fine thats cool with me, your entitled to your opinion. i do believe i have made myself clear that that is NOT why i had a problem with what you were saying.

Victim? Says you.

no, you did none of these things, and i never accused you of such. instead you attempted to lay blame on singer for a fanboys lame idea, saying this is the logical progression of singers lame story and certainly what he'll likely deliver....which is complete BS speculation.

Your opinion.


i have no problem with critiquing and criticising. have at it. just dont be placing blame where it dont belong.

Or what?


hostile? personal attack? your delusion, kid. aint nothing personal about this, and it aint hostile either. all im doing is calling someone out for not being fair. if you wanna criticise SR and such, again thats cool...at least try to be fair about it.

I feel I was and will continue to excerise my judgment of that...not yours.


im not here to have everyone agree with me. im here to say what i have to say, and people can react to it however they want. and i only call someone closed minded when they deserve it. and someone who feels its absolutely impossibe to have a good quality sequel to SR, severely lacks imagination and is a closed minded pinhead.

And of course we submit to your authority of who deserves to be named called. Wonder what the mods thing about this authority of yours?

By the way, it humorist that your accuse me of severely lacking imagination. Go watch SR again without the bias.



control freak? im not trying to control anything. im just trying to keep things fair. and when you blatantly lie about something (like how critics and audiences reacted to SR), im gonna call you on it. and the truth is, the majority of people and critics reacted favoribly to SR. and instead of closing your eyes and covering your eyes trying to convince yourself otherwise and lying to other people about it....the fact of the matter is, people liked it....and that IS something your gonna have to deal with.

No I don't have to deal with people who like SR. I haven't been trolling the threads attacking people who like it, you are the one who attacked me for disliking it. Very hypocritical of you,

you done now?


Wow, just wow. Yeah I'm done...talking to you.

To each their own. :huh:

[JayKay]

Hmmm... Superman: The Man of Steel would have been a cool title for a franchise starter. (Which also proves a "Return" movie makes no sense as an establishing film.)
How does that prove anything? :huh:

[RakuMon]

How does that prove anything? :huh:
Because, in order for "Superman Returns" to be considered a franchise-establishing film, it shouldn't have been a sequel. That's the thing so many people forget when defending the plodding story of SR. They say it was slow because he was establishing these characters for a new generation. Even Singer's said publicly that he was using that film to set up things for future films. And now "with all the exposition" out of the way, he can make a balls to the wall action flick for a sequel. The only problem is that SR didn't set up anything. It was, more or less, a nice little bow to wrap up the Reeve films.

And wasn't that the point against an origin film in the first place? Wasn't the reasoning, STM was a perfect origin so there's no need to retread? Unfortunately, the whole of SR actually was a retread of STM and SII. The only thing set up was the Jason storyline they painted themselves in a corner with. And most agree that's a franchise killer if there ever was one.

My original point was that Superman: The Man of Steel should be the franchise's Batman Begins or Casino Royale. Something that starts the franchise anew and fresh. What Superman Returns should have been.

[aroundthefur33]

i still like Superman:Deadbeat Dad

[The Punisher]

Found this over at BT and IESB.

Working Title - Man of Steel?
Posted by Justin on 11/09/06

IESB (http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_d4j_ezine&task=read&page=1&category=featured&article=632&Itemid=27) is on a roll again, this time reporting that the official working title of the Superman Returns sequel is Superman: The Man of Steel. There's still no confirmation from WB about the title, but IESB's sources are sticking to their story. For my money, that title should stick all the way through production and release.

And here.


A few weeks ago, we broke the story that director Bryan Singer had signed on to direct the sequel to Superman Returns. This week, we can reveal that the new film does in fact have a working title.


While we can’t guarantee that this will be the final title of the film, as of right now the sequel project is being referred to as Superman: The Man of Steel.

What you think?
For me, I like it. Simple, nostalgic…it conjures up thoughts of major action that was lacking a bit in “Returns.” Actually, it’s very similar to Nolan’s The Dark Knight, if they decide to drop the Superman part.
I contacted the reps over at Warner Bros. to ask if they had any comment regarding the working title. The official response earlier today was "no comment."
Update
We just received a quick note from a WB rep who believes that the working title of The Man of Steel may not be accurate. We have double checked our sources and we are being told that even though it is early, that is the name being used for now.
So while it’s too early to tell what to expect in the new film, considering there is no script as of yet, Bryan and his merry band of writers know exactly where they are headed.


Like any good filmmaker, Bryan has laid the groundwork and has confirmed there are many clues in “Returns” that hint to what direction the sequel will take. He has also said that the next film will be very, “Wrath of Khan.”

If I had to take an educated guess, Jason White, his love child with Lois Lane, is going to be a big focus of the sequel. If I had to take another educated guess, Superman will be challenged by his old nemesis, General Zod.
However, Zod will not be alone in his quest of vengeance against Jo-Rel and his son Ka-Lel. I believe that Zod will team up with other villains and maybe, just maybe, his cross hairs will be aimed directly at The Man of Steel’s heir, Jason White.
What’s for certain? Only that The Man of Steel will be back on the big screen mid-2009.

Sounds good.

[Tojo]

I think it should be call 'The Man of Steel'. Put that underneath the \S/ shield on a poster and people will pee their panties.

[matthooper]

Superman: We Promise this one won't suck!

[The Punisher]

I think it should be call 'The Man of Steel'. Put that underneath the \S/ shield on a poster and people will pee their panties.

Superman: The Man of Steel or The Man of Steel would be awesome.

[Super_Child]

I want Superman: Man of Steel

Drop the THE

[The Punisher]

That could work to.

[Heretic]

Why not Action Comics Weekly?

[Superfreak]

It has got to be about Metallo then, it would be so illogical for it not to be

[JBElliott]

Rock On!

[CConn]

It has got to be about Metallo then, it would be so illogical for it not to beWhy would it be illogical? Superman is the Man of Steel, not Metallo.

[Superfreak]

Why would it be illogical? Superman is the Man of Steel, not Metallo.

because the double meaning is such a good tool. Call it the man of steel, and have the villain be metallo, it makes so much sense. And way more sense that calling a movie 'the man of steel' and then using metallo in a potential sequel that follows, and not have it named the man of steel

[lordofthenerds]

Superman: We Promise this one won't suck!
:dry:

[tzarinna]

I'm aboard. :up:

[The Kid]

Why don't they call it...

Superman: More Blatant Christ Symbolism.

[Sawyer]

Just call it Man of Steel, so it can go with The Dark Knight.

[Hunter Rider]

Why don't they call it...

Superman: More Blatant Christ Symbolism.

You're slipping:csad: i figured you would go for..JASON the MIGHTY WONDER KID!!!......oh and his pops that super guy


Title seems fine to me a bit like the new Batman title but i hope the guy is off with his projected focus of the movie

[The Kid]

You're slipping:csad: i figured you would go for..JASON the MIGHTY WONDER KID!!!......oh and his pops that super guy


Title seems fine to me a bit like the new Batman title but i hope the guy is off with his projected focus of the movie


Oh come on, MORE BLATANT CHRIST SYMBOLISM is the perfect title... admit deep down that it is and I'll forgive you.

And Bah, jason's old news.

[Jimmy, GL]

And Bah, jason's old news.

And this coming from the kid-lover him(her)-self? Crazy talk! What has come to this world?

[Hunter Rider]

Oh come on, MORE BLATANT CHRIST SYMBOLISM is the perfect title... admit deep down that it is and I'll forgive you.

And Bah, jason's old news.

You fickle follower of anti fashion:csad:

[The Kid]

And this coming from the kid-lover him(her)-self? Crazy talk! What has come to this world?

:word: I know... It's just not safe to play a piano anymore...

:meow: :heart:

[The Kid]

You fickle follower of anti fashion:csad:

ok...:huh:

[CConn]

because the double meaning is such a good tool. Call it the man of steel, and have the villain be metallo, it makes so much sense. And way more sense that calling a movie 'the man of steel' and then using metallo in a potential sequel that follows, and not have it named the man of steelWho says Metallo would be in the sequel that follows?

Yeah, it would be one of those "Heh. Cute." kinda thing if they did use Metallo as the villain in a movie titled The Man of Steel, but I'd hardly say it's anything important.

[Lead Cenobite]

Superman: We Promise this one won't suck!

Everyone has a right to their opiinion, but not every topic is the place for bashing you know.

[Superfreak]

Who says Metallo would be in the sequel that follows?

Yeah, it would be one of those "Heh. Cute." kinda thing if they did use Metallo as the villain in a movie titled The Man of Steel, but I'd hardly say it's anything important.

see, I've always been a strong supporter of the idea that movie titles actually have something to do with the movie they represent. Calling the movie Superman:ManofSteel I'm totally behind, but... the title must be significant to the movie itself in someway.

Simply calling the sequel Man of Steel, because that is one of Superman tagline names is not enough. Having Metallo as the villain would add weight to the title, because he is literally a man of steel.



It would be like calling a sequel: the last son of Krypton. Well, there would have to be a reason for such a title. In Superman TAS, it was the opening episode, where Kal is literally the last son. If they were to use that title in this franchise, I would say that the plot line of that movie would revolve around the death of Jason, leaving Kal'el again as the true last son of krypton.


Basically, I hate pointless titles. Titles like 'Batman forever' are pointless and stupid. There was nothing in that movie that made batman literally 'forever' etc.

[dark_b]

this movie has a title man of steel. SR had red sun.

[ultimatefan]

I´d be fine with Superman The Man Of Steel if it turns out to be the actual title. Very classic.

["V"]

Superman: Soccer Dad.

[Greenshirt]

I kinda like The Man of Steel

[Katsuro]

Basically, I hate pointless titles. Titles like 'Batman forever' are pointless and stupid. There was nothing in that movie that made batman literally 'forever' etc.

While the scene blatantly explaining that title was cut, the basic theme of it is still there. There was supposed to be a scene where Batman realizes he'll be Batman forever, going so far as to say "I'm Batman forever."

[The_Flash]

I'd say Superman: The Man of Steel

[Kal-El 8]

Superman: The Man of Steel

[Catman]

If BB2 is called The Dark Knight then SR2 should be called Man of Steel.

[Kebab gud]

Superman: The Darkseid


:D

[The Punisher]

The Man of Steel.

[04nbod]

brainiac attack lol -that had me giggling

[Saint]

Superman: The Man of Steel is redundant and stupid, just like Batman: The Dark Knight. It should be called "The Man of Steel" with no "Superman" at all.

[Penguin]

I Think it should be called Superman: The Man of Steel.

[November Rain]

man of steel

[The Kid]

Son of steel

[lordofthenerds]

I think they should stick with the working title, Superman: The Man of Steel.

[R_Hythlodeus]

Superman: Red Sun

[halfapple]

Superman: Legacy of Steel

*and Jason has a "TWIN" brother that Lois has hidden away from society because the kid is evil :)

Superman finds out at the end of this second movie that he has TWO sons not just one.

/kidding......only kidding (haha)

[That-Guy]

Superman: Dead Son (hey, it's what we're all hoping for)

The Adventures of Superman and Piano Pitcher

Superman: Jason Takes Manhattan

Lex Luthor Returns

Superman: The Man of The Day After Tomorrow Never Dies

Superman 2: Zodless

[Denny67]

Well we had Superman Returns and since Brian Singer can’t have an original thought in his head and has to changed everything based on others ideas, I say we go with Superman Revisited or Superman Reloaded or Superman Reheated or Superman Rehashed or Superman Reran or Superman ReZodded or Superman ReDonnered or Superman Rehacked.

It won’t matter; he won’t give the fans what we want because he in incapable. One of the biggest movie budgets ever and we got “Superbaby” and “Sensitiveman.”

[DvilDog]

The movie has been out for 6 months now and i'm still surprised at some of the stuff i still hear. Thanks for the laughs.

[Cosmic]

Superman's Ex-Girlfriend, Lois Lane

or

Superman Baby Mama

[hk_spyke]

Superman: Jason Takes Manhattan


LOL

["V"]

Superman: Packing Jason's Lunch.

[I Am The Knight]

All jokes aside, it should be called: Superman: The Man Of Steel, or simply, The Man Of Steel.

[SentinelMind]

Superman: The Man of Squeal

[Two-Face]

Superman: The Man of Steel is much better adding "Superman"

[That-Guy]

Superman: The Man of Sequel

Superman, Episode II: Attack of the Brainiac

Superman: Tales from the Krypton

S2: Supermen United

Superman 2: Bryan Singer's Richard Donner Cut

Superman Versus MechaGodzilla

[Canadian Rider]

Superman -- Character with unlimited strength, speed etc. who always gets his ass handed to him by a guy with no super powers whatsoever ...:whatever:

[AssMan]

Superman Returns to piss off the fan base that just cant let go & find something else to whine about

[Canadian Rider]

Superman Revived.

Superman Resurrected.

Superman: Batman's Biyatch

Superman: Son of Cry-pton.

Superman: Beaten Again

Superman: Lex Luthor's Anal intrusion

[That-Guy]

The Krypto Knight

Superman: He Actually Has Lines This Time

Superman: A Man So Indestrucible That He Can Fall to the Earth From Space and Not Have a Mark On Him and Yet Can Still Get Beaten To a Pulp By a Middle Aged Bald Guy

[Canadian Rider]

Superman: Hair Club for Men ...

Superman: Hair today, Gone Tomorrow

Superman: He can fly in space, but gets owned by crazy white dudes.

Superman: Man of Steel*

*except in the following circumstances - when confronted by kryptonite, angry mobs of fellow kryptonians that he released from prison by accident (whoops), small fuzzy bunnies, beaten by large "hulk-like" characters, stored out of direct sunlight for extended periods.

[Hades]

Superman 2fast 2furious

[y2jversion1]

Superman Returns For Real This Time.

[That-Guy]

Superman: The Return of the King

Superman Meets Frankenstein's Daughter

Plan Zod from Outer Space

Superman: How Bizarro