Matt's Thread of Racing...

[Badger]

Post all racing stories, thoughts, and dreams here. :o

If it has a motor and goes really fast, then this is the thread.

I :heart: Matt. :yay:

[Fran]

I did donuts the other day in my Sable. Does that count?

[Badger]

Did you time yourself?

[DeaDheaD]

I broke traction in my S-10 like 3 times yesterday. :o

[Matt]

:cmad: *cough cough pseudo-sport cough cough* :cwink:

[Badger]

But it has your Name in it? :up:

BTW if you remove your name, I'm taking you off the Christmas Card list. :cmad:

[Matt]

I'll leave, it cause I'm nice...but know this. You're officially:

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[Badger]

:woot:

In racing news Carl Edwards and Clint Bower are both from Missouri. :up:

Also I hit a deer in my truck last night. :down

It was sort of like racing because the deer wasn't fast enough and/or it lacked god giving skills to miss my truck. :o

[NewYorkSpider]

:woot:

In racing news Carl Edwards and Clint Bower are both from Missouri. :up:


Jimmy "Mr. Excitment" Spencer is from Pennsylvania. Remember, Jimmy never forgets.

[Danger Mouse]

:up:

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[NewYorkSpider]

I want to win the Daytona 500. :csad:

[Badger]

Don't we all, don't we all. :(

[Dodger]

:woot:

In racing news Carl Edwards and Clint Bower are both from Missouri. :up:

Also I hit a deer in my truck last night. :down

It was sort of like racing because the deer wasn't fast enough and/or it lacked god giving skills to miss my truck. :o

How's the truck?

Did you hit a grown deer? A deer is way lighter than a buck right? The buck is the one with horns right? Sorry man I'm from Los Angeles, I dont know **** about deers. :(

[Badger]

How's the truck?

Did you hit a grown deer? A deer is way lighter than a buck right? The buck is the one with horns right? Sorry man I'm from Los Angeles, I dont know **** about deers. :(

LOL

It was a buck, though a smaller one. Bucks are male deer (or as Fran likes to call them 'dear') and does are the females.

The truck's fine, it had few scratches and dents, though I've already got them taken care of.

The deer on the other hand, didn't fair so well.

[Dodger]

LOL

It was a buck, though a smaller one. Bucks are male deer (or as Fran likes to call them 'dear') and does are the females.

The truck's fine, it had few scratches and dents, though I've already got them taken care of.

The deer on the other hand, didn't fair so well.

Thanks for not making fun of a city slicker. :up:

Stupid deer getting in the way of your truck :cmad:

I have a '93 ford 150. Love it. Suck on gas mileage though.

[Darthphere]

Racing is boring.

[Matt]

Racing is boring.

Thats what I said. What exactly is exciting about watching a car go in circles? :huh:

[Darthphere]

Thats what I said. What exactly is exciting about watching a car go in circles? :huh:

For 3-4 hours. I've always wanted to go to an actual race live and see if the excitement goes up, but I'm scared of white people.:csad:

[Matt]

For 3-4 hours. I've always wanted to go to an actual race live and see if the excitement goes up, but I'm scared of white people.:csad:

I don't see how it could make a difference. I mean, it would be much louder (a **** load of cars driving past you with their engines blaring...you'd go deaf) but being as you are stationary and the cars are constantly moving, you'd only really see them drive by every so often and they move so fast it is a blink and you miss it scenario. I just don't get rednecks I guess :huh:

[Badger]

I don't see how it could make a difference. I mean, it would be much louder (a **** load of cars driving past you with their engines blaring...you'd go deaf) but being as you are stationary and the cars are constantly moving, you'd only really see them drive by every so often and they move so fast it is a blink and you miss it scenario. I just don't get rednecks I guess :huh:

So only rednecks can like racing? Way to stereotype... :o

[Immortalfire]

On Food Network, I saw Giada de Laurentiis driving a race car at Las Vegas speedway...hawt :yay:

[NewYorkSpider]

For 3-4 hours. I've always wanted to go to an actual race live and see if the excitement goes up, but I'm scared of white people.:csad:

I've been to four races before. It's a lot better then watching it on TV.

[Alex The Great]

JEFF GORDON! :up:

[NewYorkSpider]

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[Alex The Great]

:cmad::up:


How bout we do a SHH Nascar pool?

[Immortalfire]

How bout we don't?

[Alex The Great]

:csad:k

[Matt]

So only rednecks can like racing? Way to stereotype... :o

Well....isn't that true? :huh: :cwink:

[Alex The Great]

Nascar in a month....woooooooooooo.....

[Badger]

Well....isn't that true? :huh: :cwink:

No. :cmad:

Maybe a majority, but not all.

:yay:

[Addendum]

I'm not into NASCAR or Indy car. But I like the NHRA

[NewYorkSpider]

I don't mind NASCAR or the IRL. IRL is more exciting to watch because of the speeds.

I've been to a NHRA event. IT....IS......LOUD.

[Badger]

All forms of wheeled racing is good in my book.

Plus, I came up with a type of wheeled racing even Matt has to like...


Bar Stool Races!!

(yes, there is such a thing)

[Fran]

I did some donuts today in my Sable :up:

[Badger]

Well I ate donuts in my Tacoma. :o

[Alex The Great]

you guys have no love for racing :down

Jeff Gordon ftw! WIN THAT 5TH CHAMPOINSHIP DAMN IT!!!!!!!! Stop Letting #48 win :cmad: :cmad: :cmad: :cmad: :cmad:


and yes i'm a Jeff Gordon fan lol. NO i'm not a bandwagoner. i've been a fan of him since i first saw a Nascar race. 1999.

[NewYorkSpider]

Gordon and Johnson will have a bit of a slide this year. Hendrick will me more focused on his new boy Dale Jr.

I don't expect Stewart, Hamlin or Ky.Busch to win the championship in their first year in Toyota. Stewart won't win untill July, Hamlin will probably get a victory at Pocono, New Hampshire or Phoenix. Ky. Busch is going to try too damn hard to finish good and will end up wrecking. He'll be 10th at best if he makes the chase.

I think this years champion will be an underdog. Someone like Carl Edwards.

[chesslover]

Matt Kenseth ftw!

[Alex The Great]

God i Hate Dale jr's new car. ugh :down

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/adc/10119706A~Dale-Earnhardt-Jr-Budweiser-Car-on-Track-Posters.jpg
Red and Black ftw

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*Barf* :down:mad:

[Badger]

More over I hate the "Car of Tomorrow" and all it represents.

[Alex The Great]

I like to COT. That big wing at the back though...ehh......Looks to formula one-ish.

I watched the bUdweiser Shoot out on saturday and was happy to see that the cars don't seperate from eachother like they usually do at Daytona. That COT really does help. there all in one big pack.

And god....i love the big one.
Translaiton: THE BIG ONE is a massive crash that involves LOTS of cars. were talking 20-30 cars here. There always amazingly big and it's a mzing how drivers drive out of it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yYikGFwCvs :word::up:

[NewYorkSpider]

The COT has definitely improved the racing at Daytona. The race at Talladega back in the fall was exciting as well. We should get a better feel for the racing during Thursdays Duels.

Those wrecks are nothing compared to what some drivers have done on their own. Take Rusty Wallace for example.

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[Alex The Great]

:wow:


and agreed. COT Fo life :up:

i'm still gonna miss Talledaga's gray, crakced surface. it was cool lookin. now it looks like a clone of daytona. but the racing is better so i'll live :up:

[Badger]

Get back in your League Psycho!! :cmad:

[Alex The Great]

i canned it! :cmad:

lack of interest :down

[SurfDUI]

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LETS GO RACIN KURT!!:hehe:

[Badger]

i canned it! :cmad:

lack of interest :down

No you didn't, you quit. We are still in. I would have kicked your prepubescent ass anyway.

[Alex The Great]

Nice races today. :up:

can't wait for sunday

[NewYorkSpider]

2nd duel race was better than the first. If it comes down to a green-white-checkered on Sunday, I wouldn't want to be leading the race.

Dale Jr. looks really strong and should be the favorite heading into Sunday.

I'm also amazed at how Stanton Barrret was able to keep up with the lead pack. Most of the time he loses the draft. Goes to show you what the COT is doing to the competition. It should make for a great race on Sunday.

[Badger]

Reed Sorenson, that is all.

[Alex The Great]

Reed Sorenson, that is all.
^sleeper pick :up:

Toyotas are doing great so far.

[NewYorkSpider]

My sleeper pick is Dave Blaney.

[Badger]

^sleeper pick :up:

Toyotas are doing great so far.

I'm sorry but I don't talk to quitters. :o

:cmad: Yes, they are.

[Alex The Great]

It's raceday kids!

[Badger]

That it is quitter!! :cmad:

[Immortalfire]

*listens to A Day At The Races*

[NewYorkSpider]

Congrats to Ryan Newman. I was pulling for Jeff Burton there at the end. I love how Kyle Busch says that the drivers at the ends layed back to get a run. He did it some times too.

If it comes down to a green-white-checkered on Sunday, I wouldn't want to be leading the race.


What I tell you.

Reed Sorenson, that is all.

Reed was strong at the end of that race

My sleeper pick is Dave Blaney.

Blaney had a good car but was in that accident.

[Alex The Great]

nice race.
first half was bleh. they really strung out. last half was cool :up:

congratz to newman.

[Badger]

What I tell you.

Yeah, poor Tony, hahaha!!!

[Alex The Great]

i'm so glad tony lost :up:

and jr lost aswell :up:

that'll shut up those arrogant 88 fans :cmad::up:

i can't beleive 24 was out so early. when he's out, it's usually a crash. engine problems aren't really his issue. bad handling cars usually are

[Kelly]

One time I was flying home from Nashville, to Houston.....I was sitting next to this guy that everyone kept asking for his autograph.......I was thinking "who the hell is this guy?" Then the stewardess gets him on the phone with a friend talking to him about selling his Ferrari (sp?) and again I was thinking "who the hell is this guy?"......so finally I asked him......"Who the hell are you......lmao?".......it was Daryl Waltrip..........I still have no idea who that is......


As you can see, I'm not a Racing fan.........unless its horses, and I have money on it....

[Badger]

i'm so glad tony lost :up:

and jr lost aswell :up:

that'll shut up those arrogant 88 fans :cmad::up:

i can't beleive 24 was out so early. when he's out, it's usually a crash. engine problems aren't really his issue. bad handling cars usually are


Wasn't an engine issue, it was a major handling issue.

[Alex The Great]

Wasn't an engine issue, it was a major handling issue.
oh yeah.

like i said. when something goes wrong for him. it's usualy bad handling. and he usually has a bad handling car :down

[Badger]

One time I was flying home from Nashville, to Houston.....I was sitting next to this guy that everyone kept asking for his autograph.......I was thinking "who the hell is this guy?" Then the stewardess gets him on the phone with a friend talking to him about selling his Ferrari (sp?) and again I was thinking "who the hell is this guy?"......so finally I asked him......"Who the hell are you......lmao?".......it was Daryl Waltrip..........I still have no idea who that is......


As you can see, I'm not a Racing fan.........unless its horses, and I have money on it....

Thanks, Kel, for stopping by.

:heart:

:o

[Alex The Great]

One time I was flying home from Nashville, to Houston.....I was sitting next to this guy that everyone kept asking for his autograph.......I was thinking "who the hell is this guy?" Then the stewardess gets him on the phone with a friend talking to him about selling his Ferrari (sp?) and again I was thinking "who the hell is this guy?"......so finally I asked him......"Who the hell are you......lmao?".......it was Daryl Waltrip..........I still have no idea who that is......


As you can see, I'm not a Racing fan.........unless its horses, and I have money on it....
ya met DW :eek:?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

he's like....uber famous :huh:

[Kelly]

Thanks, Kel, for stopping by.

:heart:

:o

No problemo!!!!:cwink:

ya met DW :eek:?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

he's like....uber famous :huh:

Apparently so......but my ignorance got the best of me in that situation.

[Alex The Great]

No problemo!!!!:cwink:



Apparently so......but my ignorance got the best of me in that situation.
stupid :cmad: :whatever: :oldrazz: :o


DW is awseme. BOOGITY BOOGITY BOOGITY FTW! :up:

[Kelly]

*sighs*.....yes, I have to take the title of "stupid" in that situation......



BUT ONLY, that situation...

and don't forget it......


BTW, he was a very nice guy.........and the conversation was pretty funny, since I know absolutely nothing about race cars......

It was pretty much....

Daryl: I'm Daryl........Waltrip
Me: I'm Kelly, nice to meet you....
Daryl: you too, what do you do?
Me: I'm a teacher.....what do you do? (blank look)

[Badger]

That's alright Kel, you're still cute...

and really that's all that matters, right?

[Alex The Great]

Me: I'm a teacher.....what do you do? (blank look)

haha. :up:

DW is a cool dude. funny, smart, nice, and cool. i always laugh at that dance he did when he won the 500 :up:


your still awseme though :csad::up:

[Badger]

Did anyone watch any of the pre-show?

Where they did the whole ask Junior a question part. With the guy who had the Jr's old number 8 tatooed on his forearm and the guy was like, "Hey Jr. what the hell do I do with this!!" And Jr was like, "I have no idea?"

Hahaha!!

[Kelly]

That's alright Kel, you're still cute...

and really that's all that matters, right?

haha. :up:

DW is a cool dude. funny, smart, nice, and cool. i always laugh at that dance he did when he won the 500 :up:


your still awseme though :csad::up:


*sniffs* thanks guys........

[Alex The Great]

no problem :woot:

[NewYorkSpider]

i'm so glad tony lost :up:

and jr lost aswell :up:

that'll shut up those arrogant 88 fans :cmad::up:

i can't beleive 24 was out so early. when he's out, it's usually a crash. engine problems aren't really his issue. bad handling cars usually are


I'm also glad that Dale Jr. didn't win. I have two friends that are fans of him. They constantly say how he his gonna own the competition this season and win like 10 races. I do see him winning some races. Maybe around 5.

[Immortalfire]

One time I was flying home from Nashville, to Houston.....I was sitting next to this guy that everyone kept asking for his autograph.......I was thinking "who the hell is this guy?" Then the stewardess gets him on the phone with a friend talking to him about selling his Ferrari (sp?) and again I was thinking "who the hell is this guy?"......so finally I asked him......"Who the hell are you......lmao?".......it was Daryl Waltrip..........I still have no idea who that is......


As you can see, I'm not a Racing fan.........unless its horses, and I have money on it....

Dangit Kel, DW was my fave of all time :csad: :wow:

[Soundwave]

Who do you like at Fontana this weekend? I think the Roush cars(Kenseth, Edwards, Biffle) will be strong. It also wouldn't surprise me to see one of the Toyotas win. Kyle Busch has been very strong on this track.

[Kelly]

Dangit Kel, DW was my fave of all time :csad: :wow:


I'm soooory.............................I've just never followed racing........I have friends that are huge race fans.....they almost killed me. lol:csad:

[NewYorkSpider]

Who do you like at Fontana this weekend? I think the Roush cars(Kenseth, Edwards, Biffle) will be strong. It also wouldn't surprise me to see one of the Toyotas win. Kyle Busch has been very strong on this track.

There is a lot of unknowns coming into a 2-mile track with the new car. History shows that a Roush or Hendrick driver should win. I like Carl Edwards this weekend.

[Alex The Great]

crap. rain delay. at least it's stopped and there drying it up.

[NewYorkSpider]

I'm glad there's a rain delay. The race will end under the lights now.

[Alex The Great]

at this rate it's gonna end at breakfest. jesus.

[NewYorkSpider]

They're best off running both races tomorrow. Maybe start the Sprint Cup Race at 2:00 EST.

[Alex The Great]

but i'll be at school then :csad:


DAMN YOU WESTERN TTIME ZONE! :cmad::csad:

[NewYorkSpider]

While we wait for the rain to stop, lets talk about something.

How about that Casey Mears?! :up:

[Badger]

Haven't gotten to watch the race, any care to give me a recap?

[NewYorkSpider]

Gordon has led most of the laps in the first quarter of the race.

Due to all the rain this weekend, there are cracks in the surface and the rain has been seeping up through it. Denny Hamlin, Casey Mears, Dale Jr, Sam Hornish Jr and Reed Sorenson were all victims off this. Hamlin crashed in a single car incident while the others were in a 4-car accident. Mears' car got hit from behind and Hornish hit him and turned him over.


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Strongest cars are Gordon, Edwards, Johnson, Ky. Busch and Kasey Kahne.

There's a rain delay right now. Jimmie Johnson leads at the moment. The rain has stopped and they're trying to get the race track dried. At this point, Nascar is trying to get the race to halfway.

[Alex The Great]

OOH! i forgot.

Dear Casey Mears.

I :heart: you. Thank you for taking out junior. God bless you, bless you.

Sincererly, Junior hatah

[Badger]

Gordon has led most of the laps in the first quarter of the race.

Due to all the rain this weekend, there are cracks in the surface and the rain has been seeping up through it. Denny Hamlin, Casey Mears, Dale Jr, Sam Hornish Jr and Reed Sorenson were all victims off this. Hamlin crashed in a single car incident while the others were in a 4-car accident. Mears' car got hit from behind and Hornish hit him and turned him over.


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Strongest cars are Gordon, Edwards, Johnson, Ky. Busch and Kasey Kahne.

There's a rain delay right now. Jimmie Johnson leads at the moment. The rain has stopped and they're trying to get the race track dried. At this point, Nascar is trying to get the race to halfway.


Thanks. :up:

[NewYorkSpider]

OOH! i forgot.

Dear Casey Mears.

I :heart: you. Thank you for taking out junior. God bless you, bless you.

Sincererly, Junior hatah

They shouldn't have allowed the cars to go out there with the water coming through the track. It was completely stupid. :down:

Nascar owes an apology to those teams that wrecked because of it.

Thanks :up:

No problem.

[NewYorkSpider]

Here's that Casey Mears crash.

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I've heard that Nascar officials will make a decison at 11:00EST, 8:00 on the west coast.

[Alex The Great]

so in about oh....15 minutes.

[NewYorkSpider]

Yes. I just looked at the radar for Fontana, Ca and there were no precipitation clouds in the area. It all depends on how fast the track is drying now.

[Alex The Great]

well....they said it was light. so maybe?

p.s. will the race continue on FOX or go to ESPN? :huh:


please god don't. i don't HAVE ESPN.

[NewYorkSpider]

It should stay on Fox. They may even move it to FX. It won't be on ESPN.

[Alex The Great]

oh thank goodness........


and doesn't anyone else HATE espn's coverage of NAscar? they truelly so suck. stick woth Fox, TNT, NBC damn it

[Alex The Great]

Well.....they CAN just keep going and goig. this track can do night races.

[NewYorkSpider]

oh thank goodness........


and doesn't anyone else HATE espn's coverage of NAscar? they truelly so suck. stick woth Fox, TNT, NBC damn it

I don't hate it THAT much. I don't like the announcers. Bill Weber, Wally Dallenbach and Benny Parsons:csad: were much better. Bill Weber is OK, but I prefered Allen Bestwick on TNT and NBC.

Well.....they CAN just keep going and goig. this track can do night races.

It's 8:00 over there right now, so they can go for awhile. I don't know if NASCAR would take the race late on the west coast becasue people would be sleeping on the east coast. I wouldn't be surprised if they shortend the race if they get it in.

[Alex The Great]

there gonna keep at it :up:


and it's stopped raining! :D:D:D:D:D:D

[Alex The Great]

guess were gonna find out in oh.....7 minutes if there gonna do this.

[NewYorkSpider]

Looks like another hour from now. I'm pretty sure they will shorten this race.

Edit: nevermind about the race being shortend. They said they will run the whole distance. :up:

[Alex The Great]

nope, they said there gonna go ALL the way.

[NewYorkSpider]

NASCAR made the right move in delaying this race untill tomorrow. Or I should say today. There's too many people sleeping on the east coast.

[Soundwave]

Carl Edwards wins! I figured it would be a Roush car winnning that race. One of the best victory celebrations in sports is the Carl Edwards back flip! The Nationwide series race is next. Carl can actually win two races in one day.

Vegas is on tap next week.

[NewYorkSpider]

There is a lot of unknowns coming into a 2-mile track with the new car. History shows that a Roush or Hendrick driver should win. I like Carl Edwards this weekend.

:up:

[Immortalfire]

Carl Edwards wins! I figured it would be a Roush car winnning that race. One of the best victory celebrations in sports is the Carl Edwards back flip! The Nationwide series race is next. Carl can actually win two races in one day.

Vegas is on tap next week.

My sister drove a real life race car at a Vegas speedway when they were there, said it was quite fun.

[NewYorkSpider]

Carl Edwards wins! I figured it would be a Roush car winnning that race. One of the best victory celebrations in sports is the Carl Edwards back flip! The Nationwide series race is next. Carl can actually win two races in one day.

Vegas is on tap next week.

Kyle Busch had the chance to do that at Daytona last July, but lost by 0.005 seconds to Jamie McMurray.

Kyle Busch has the chance to become the first driver in NASCAR history to lead all three series point standings.

[Soundwave]

:up:

Good call my friend.

[Soundwave]

Kyle Busch had the chance to do that at Daytona last July, but lost by 0.005 seconds to Jamie McMurray.


Kyle Busch has the chance to become the first driver in NASCAR history to lead all three series point standings.

That would be cool. Even though he can be an immature punk out there sometimes, Kyle is one of my favorite drivers.

[Alex The Great]

I don't see how it could make a difference. I mean, it would be much louder (a **** load of cars driving past you with their engines blaring...you'd go deaf) but being as you are stationary and the cars are constantly moving, you'd only really see them drive by every so often and they move so fast it is a blink and you miss it scenario. I just don't get rednecks I guess :huh:
i have been to 3 nascar races. plus 2 formula one races.

and my hearing is FINE! And it is great going there.

I whent to martinsville a couple years ago with my dad. we parked the RV and started unloading. then this big fat bearded red-kneck comes by and says ''Y'all canadian?'' we nodd ''That spots taken!'' he points to where we are. it was funny.
the atmosphere is great, the crowd, everything.

[NewYorkSpider]

i have been to 3 nascar races. plus 2 formula one races.

and my hearing is FINE! And it is great going there.

I whent to martinsville a couple years ago with my dad. we parked the RV and started unloading. then this big fat bearded red-kneck comes by and says ''Y'all canadian?'' we nodd ''That spots taken!'' he points to where we are. it was funny.
the atmosphere is great, the crowd, everything.

I've been to Martinsville, Bristol and Dover. Hope to go back to Dover this year as well as Watkins Glen.

Has anyone seen this HotPass thing you can get? It gives you the in-car audio of the driver through the race. This is Kevin Harvick's in-car when he won the Daytona 500 a year ago. Pretty neat to watch.

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Also, after watching this again, you can see how fast his line was moving on the last lap when they were on the backstretch. If David Gilliland had moved up, he would of won the race and pulled off one of the greatest underdog wins of all-time.

[Alex The Great]

jesus! Look how close Kyle Busch got to him. almost ran right into him!

[NewYorkSpider]

ESPN does this little eliminator thing on their website. This guy eliminates all the drivers untill he gets to one winner. I thought I'd give it a shot.

No Driver has won from the pole. Kyle Busch eliminated. 1 driver eliminated, 42 remain.

Las Vegas has never produced a first time winner. Mike Skinner, Scott Riggs, Patrick Carpentier, David Reutimann, Sam Hornish Jr, Dave Blaney, Regan Smith, Travis Kvapil, J.J Yeley, David Gilliland, Reed Sorenson, David Ragan, Paul Menard and Dario Franchitti eliminated. 14 drivers eliminated, 28 remain.

No driver has won the race starting 26th or worse. Brian Vickers, Kyle Petty, Bobby Labonte, Kasey Kahne, Jamie McMurray, Jimmie Johnson, Robby Gordon, Juan Montoya, and Denny Hamlin eliminated. 9 drivers eliminated, 19 remain.

Since California moved to the second race of the season, no driver has won back-to-back races. Carl Edwards eliminated. 1 driver eliminated, 18 remain.

The driver that wins at Las Vegas has won the year before. Mark Martin, Dale Earnhardt Jr, Elliott Sadler, Ryan Newman, Dale Jarrett, Ken Schrader, Michael Waltrip and Jeremy Mayfield eliminated. 8 drivers eliminated, 10 remain.

The driver winning at Las Vegas was higher than 16th in points. Clint Bowyer and Casey Mears eliminated. 2 drivers eliminated, 8 remain.

Toyota has yet to win a Nascar race. Tony Stewart eliminated. 1 driver eliminated, 7 remain.

Dodge has only one win on this race track. Ford and Chevrolet have dominated the rest. Kurt Busch eliminated. 1 driver eliminated, 6 remain.

The driver winning at Las Vegas had won 2 or more races the previous season. This has happened all but once. Greg Biffle, Kevin Harvick, Martin Truex Jr and Jeff Burton eliminated. 4 drivers eliminated, 2 remain.

The average starting position for all Las Vegas winners is around 16th. Jeff Gordon starts 4th. So we're gonna eliminate him cause there's one more driver that is closer to that positon. Jeff Gordon eliminated. 1 driver eliminated, 1 remains.

And your winners is....

Matt Kenseth will win his third Vegas race on Sunday.

[NewYorkSpider]

^Well, If Kenseth hadn't wrecked and Edwards wasn't cheating, then my theory probably would have been right.

Nascar should strip away Edwards' win and give it to Junior(im not a fan of Junior) and dock Edwards 100 points. Nascar needs to step up when these teams are cheating.

[NewYorkSpider]

Time for The Eliminator - Atlanta

No driver has won from 40th on back at Atlanta. Kyle Petty, Regan Smith, Travis Kvapil and Dale Jarrett eliminated. 4 drivers eliminated, 39 remain.

The farthest someone has started and won the spring race was 35th. Jeremy Mayfield, J.J Yeley, Matt Kenseth and Casey Mears eliminated. 4 drivers eliminated, 35 remain.

Only one rookie has won the spring race(35 races). Sam Hornish Jr, Dario Franchitti and Patrick Carpentier eliminated. 3 drivers eliminated, 32 remain.

Over the last 20 years, the winner at Atlanta has been in the top 17 in points. Reed Sorenson, David Ragan, Denny Hamlin, Robby Gordon, David Gilliland, Jeff Gordon, Clint Bowyer, Juan Montoya, Paul Menard, Jamie McMurray, Scott Riggs, David Reutiman, Michael Waltrip, Dave Blaney, Mike Skinner and Joe Nemechek eliminated. 16 drivers eliminated, 16 remain.

Since Dodge came back into the sport in 2001, they have only won one race at Atlanta. Bobby Lobonte, Kasey Kahne, Ryan Newman, Elliott Sadler and Kurt Busch eliminated. 5 drivers eliminated, 11 remain.

Toyota has yet to win a cup race. We're gonna keep eliminating them untill they do. Kyle Busch, Tony Stewart and Brian Vickers eliminated. 3 drivers eliminated, 8 remain.

There have been 9 different winners in the last 9 Atlanta spring races. Jimmie Johnson, Carl Edwards, Dale Earnhardt Jr. and Kevin Harvick eliminated. 4 drivers eliminated, 4 remain.

The past three Atlanta winners finished in the top five in the last Atlanta race. Martin Truex Jr., Greg Biffle and Mark Martin eliminated. 3 drivers eliminated, 1 remain.

And your winner is....

Jeff Burton will win his first Atlanta race on Sunday. The numbers don't lie

[Alex The Great]

yes. yes they do :o

[NewYorkSpider]

yes. yes they do :o

The eliminator is just for fun. It's almost never right at picking a winner. Based on the history at Atlanta, Burton was in a positon to win the race.

[NewYorkSpider]

Well.........Saturday the northeast was the victim of some nasty weather. As a result of this nasty weather, are TV went out. I thought to myself " it will be alright tomorrow morning". I woke up at 11AM to find out that the TV still wasn't working. So, I went back to sleep. I woke up at 1:45 in hopes that the TV was working so I could watch the race. I turned it on and to my surprise the TV worked! I turned it over to Fox to find nothing but a black screen. :csad: It was the only station that didn't work. So, I went to the store and bought some Mentos and I came back home to remember that you could watch live sports on the internet. I found the site and NYS was happy. :up:


^True story

[Immortalfire]

I Love NASCAR..parody of Toby Keith's "I Love This Bar"

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[NewYorkSpider]

The Eliminator - Bristol

No driver has won the race starting 39th or worse. David Reutimann, Michael Waltrip, Ken Schrader, Joe Nemecheck and Mike Skinner. 5 drivers eliminated, 38 remain.

There has never been a rookie driver to win at Bristol. Sam Hornish Jr, Regan Smith and Dario Franchitti. 3 drivers eliminated, 35 remain.

The last 4 Bristol winners finished in the top 12 in their previous visit at Bristol. Denny Hamlin, David Ragan, Matt Kenseth, Jeremy Mayfield, Aric Almirola, Dale Jarrett, Dave Blaney, David Gilliland, Elliott Sadler, Jamie McMurray, Paul Menard, Casey Mears, Jimmie Johnson, Robby Gordon, Jeff Gordon, Scott Riggs, Juan Montoya, Kevin Harvick, Reed Sorenson, Kyle Petty and J.J Yeley. 21 drivers eliminated, 14 remain.

Since 1998, no driver with a win earlier in the season has won at the Bristol spring race. Carl Edwards, Kyle Busch and Ryan Newman eliminated. 3 drivers eliminated, 11 remain.

The last 3 Bristol winners all started in the Nationwide Race and finished 11th or better. Tony Stewart, Kurt Busch, Brian Vickers, Travis Kvapil, Bobby Lobonte, Dale Earnhardt Jr., Jeff Burton, Greg Biffle and Martin Truex Jr. 9 drivers eliminated, 2 remain.

All four winners this season have won the race from 9th or above. Kasey Kahne. 1 driver eliminated, 1 remains.

And your winner is......

Clint Bowyer will win the Food City 500 @ Bristol.

[NewYorkSpider]

Bristol puts on another good show for the fans. Congrats to Burton. RCR 1-2-3 for the first time ever. I think if Junior had came in got tires he would have won or finished at least second.

:lmao: to Kyle Busch, Stewart and Hamlin. They all dominated this race and they all have problems towards the end.

Also, this was Dale Jarett's last points race. Thanks for the memories Dale.

[Alex The Great]

Alright. me fave race of the year. Bring on the BIG ONE!

[NewYorkSpider]

There is 4 races out of the year that I love watching. Daytona and Talladega.

[Alex The Great]

There is 4 races out of the year that I love watching. Daytona and Talladega.
Damn right. Dega is the bestest.


oh and...


Dear kyle Busch.....i love you so much

[Badger]

I'm kicking your asses in Yahoo! :o

[NewYorkSpider]

I kept forgetting to set my drivers for a couple weeks. I finally remembered to pick them this weekend. Guess who I picked to win the race? That's right, Clint Bowyer.

My friends and I have a little race pool. We pick a driver each week and what ever that driver gets for points, we get for points. If you have more points than the 12th place driver at the end of 26 races, you make the chase. At the end we reset the points at how many wins you have. I have 3 wins right now. I've picked....

Edwards - California
Johnson - Phoenix
Bowyer - Richmond

[Alex The Great]

and again....i love you so much kyle busch :heart::up:

[Soundwave]

Darlington should be interesting this week. I heard the new pavement was causing these cars to drive at record speeds in the test sessions. I like Edwards to win because he has been dominant on the intermediate tracks this year. The Gibbs cars should do well also because of the Toyota horsepower.

[Omega Wizard]

I love nascar, anyone watching the Winston tonight?

And I love to collect the cars.
Met Toney Stewart. :up: and I have a Kevin Harvick memorial above my bed.

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[Omega Wizard]

I was at the Coke 600, some dumbass started a fight in my section.

[Soundwave]

Kyle Busch is absolutely on fire this year!

[NewYorkSpider]

Gordon and Johnson will have a bit of a slide this year. Hendrick will me more focused on his new boy Dale Jr.

I don't expect Stewart, Hamlin or Ky.Busch to win the championship in their first year in Toyota. Stewart won't win untill July, Hamlin will probably get a victory at Pocono, New Hampshire or Phoenix. Ky. Busch is going to try too damn hard to finish good and will end up wrecking. He'll be 10th at best if he makes the chase.

I think this years champion will be an underdog. Someone like Carl Edwards.

^^This is what I said at the beggining of the year.

1. Gordon and Johnson only have 1 victory between the two of them.

2. I still don't think Toyota will win the Championship. Chevorlet will make a strong surge in the second half. Stewart still hasn't won.(He will in July) Hamlin won at Martinsville. He loves the flat tracks. Pocono, New Hampshire and Phoenix are just like Martinsville in terms of banking. The only thing I was wrong about was Kyle Busch. He's absolutley dominating the sport this year.

3. I still think Carl Edwards will win the Championship.

[Soundwave]

Road racing from Sonoma this week. That means it's time for the ringers to get involved. Look for strong efforts from the usual suspects(Said, Fellows, Pruett, Simo) but I think the winner will come from this grouping, (J. Gordon, Robby Gordon, J.P. Montoya, Stewart). For surprises, look out for Jaime McMurray and Dale Earnhardt Jr, who both have shown significant improvement on road courses. Don't forget Kevin Harvick either. He has won a road race recently and is pretty strong on these tracks also.

[Omega Wizard]

Kyle Busch is like the 2007 New England Paitiots right now....
Does that mean he'll fail in the chase? :o

[NewYorkSpider]

Does that mean he'll fail in the chase? :o

He's gonna have at least a 40 point lead or more on second place when the chase starts. Unless Carl Edwards, Kasey Kahne or a driver with one win starts winning the next 7 races, he'll have a huge margin and could just run consistent through the 10 races in the chase.

[Pluto]

Jeff Gordon Will Win the Championship this year. You'll see. He'll be like Terry Labonte when he only won 1 race but won the championship.
NASCAR already cheated Jeff out of two championships. It's time he got one back.

[Alex The Great]

Jeff Gordon Will Win the Championship this year. You'll see. He'll be like Terry Labonte when he only won 1 race but won the championship.
NASCAR already cheated Jeff out of two championships. It's time he got one back.
Though I wish this would Happen, It won't. He just isn't good this year. he did crappy at the geln! the glen! and he's great at Road Courses. Maybe Next Year.

Kyle Bush is Unstoppable :csad:

[NewYorkSpider]

Though I wish this would Happen, It won't. He just isn't good this year. he did crappy at the geln! the glen! and he's great at Road Courses. Maybe Next Year.

Kyle Bush is Unstoppable :csad:

Gordon had a communication problem at the Glen though. He would have been running in the top 10 if that didn't happen. Dale Jr also would have been running near the front if he would have pitted when everyone else did. If Gordon wins in the next 4 races it will serve as a momentum boost for the Chase. Look at Clint Bowyer last season. Barely made it in the chase, started 12th in points(with no wins) and won the following week. He then finished 3rd in the points. As far as i'm concerned, Kyle Busch hasn't won anything yet. He could fall out of the race at New Hampshire and run mediocre the rest of the way. I still think the championship is going to Carl Edwards.

[Milkman95]

Pics from my seats at the 3M 400 from Michigan International Speedway:

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[NewYorkSpider]

Pretty good seats. I've been to Bristol, Martinsville and Dover. I seen Paul Menard in Applebee's last weekend when they were at Watkins Glen.

The Race to the Chase is gearing up to be a wild one. It's pretty tight from 8th to 14th.

[Milkman95]

^Yup - I'd like to see Michigan put lights in and do a Saturday night race - that would bring in a ton more business.

Should be a tight one to the finish.

[Alex The Great]

Bristol is awseme. I want to go to the Night race one day.

[NewYorkSpider]

Kyle Busch is such sore loser. I mean, the guy has every right to be upset since he led three quarters of the race and lost, but to be upset for the way Carl raced him is unbelievable. How many times have you seen him bump someone out of the way? Edwards brought up the Richmond Nationwide race. I was starting to gain respect for the kid the past couple of months. But know i'm starting to lose it.

[Alex The Great]

That was a fun race :up:

[NewYorkSpider]

I thought it was a boring race. There were only 3 people who led. That's unusual for Bristol.

California this weekend. I like Greg Biffle to take the checkered flag.

[Alex The Great]

I thought it was a boring race. There were only 3 people who led. That's unusual for Bristol.


I think it's because of that COT......i'm stareting to not like that car.....It's making the cars in the restrictor plate races spread out...whic is a big no no. and plus the short teack races have less crashes and less bumping and suck....sure there's plenty but meh....

[NewYorkSpider]

I think it's because of that COT......i'm stareting to not like that car.....It's making the cars in the restrictor plate races spread out...whic is a big no no. and plus the short teack races have less crashes and less bumping and suck....sure there's plenty but meh....

I don't think it was the COT. The reason Kyle Busch and Carl Edwards led so much was because they had nothing to lose. They can drive as hard as they want. Gordon led like one lap. The rest was Busch and Edwards. The rest of the field had something to drive for. You had guys driving for the top 12 and top 35. The drivers who are like 16-30 in points just didn't have a good car.

The racing at Daytona and Talladega has improved since the COT and has been much safer. We haven't really seen "the big one" in quite some time. I think the COT is doing fine for it's first full season.

[Alex The Great]

Remember the Daytona 500? good lord, it sucked. i feel asleep after 50 laps....they just...spread out so fast....it's plate race...that shouldn't happen...

[NewYorkSpider]

Remember the Daytona 500? good lord, it sucked. i feel asleep after 50 laps....they just...spread out so fast....it's plate race...that shouldn't happen...

They spread out for two reason. One, they don't want to use their car up racing like that. Two, they don't want to be caught up in a big wreck. It's the Daytona 500. All the drivers are going to take it easy untill the end.

[Alex The Great]

true, but they went through 2 straight green flagg pit stops....very uncommon for a plate race....oh well.....
the thing is, these cars don'tt wreck enough. they spread out so much it kinda gets boring....

[NewYorkSpider]

true, but they went through 2 straight green flagg pit stops....very uncommon for a plate race....oh well.....
the thing is, these cars don'tt wreck enough. they spread out so much it kinda gets boring....


That's the way NASCAR wants it. The cars used to have 22 gallon fuel cells, then NASCAR went with 12 gallon fuel cells so they make more pit stops. This way when the drivers make their pit stops, they spread out so a big wreck doesn't happen. It's all apart of the saftey inovations that NASCAR has been tweaking with the past 8 years. It might be boring, but it's much safer.

[Alex The Great]

But the fans love wrecks...especially the Big one at Daytona and 'Dega.

[NewYorkSpider]

The fans love it, the drivers don't. NASCAR is going to listen to it's drivers first.

[Alex The Great]

Well the drivers should learn to get some skill and avoid em instead of relying on the car.

[NewYorkSpider]

Well the drivers should learn to get some skill and avoid em instead of relying on the car.

How are you going to avoid this?

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One reason NASCAR made this COT is so drivers can avoid wrecking and get a better grip on the race car. Because of Ryan Newman's mistake in the above wreck, chase contenders were knocked out. I bet if that was the COT car, you would have seen a lot less cars involved.

Since the COT has been introduced to plate racing, have you seen a big wreck with 20+ cars? I haven't. I have seen much safer racing and better finishes.

[Alex The Great]

I think there was a wreck at Darlington and Jeff Gordon whent right through the smoke and didn't even get touched.....
I don't think it was recent...but definatley in this century?

[NewYorkSpider]

I'm talking about wrecks at Daytona and Talladega. :o

[Alex The Great]

I'm talking about wrecks at Daytona and Talladega. :o
Hey, it's possible....These guys are supposed to be the bst of the best. They ned to grow some balls. slam on the brakes, grab the wheel and avoid those things. stop going all ''NO CRASHES!!!!''

My fav race, the Aarons 499 (they never ghave the bigone in the 2nd Dega Race due to the chase)

[NewYorkSpider]

Hey, it's possible....These guys are supposed to be the bst of the best. They ned to grow some balls. slam on the brakes, grab the wheel and avoid those things. stop going all ''NO CRASHES!!!!''

My fav race, the Aarons 499 (they never ghave the bigone in the 2nd Dega Race due to the chase)

They do slam on the brakes to avoid these things. :huh: But going 190 MPH with cars sliding 20 FT in front of you blocking the race track is hard to avoid. Even if they swerve to avoid one car, there's another car crashing on the other side.

Look at this wreck here. Bobby Lobonte just about made it through and had slowed all the way down and was still a victim of the big one. About 24 cars were involved in this wreck. 24 decent cars that had a chance to finish in the top 10. I want to see 43 cars at the end of the race where everyone has a chance to win, not a huge wreck where a driver could get injured or even killed.

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[Alex The Great]

Ok, got me there. but it's always cool to see those cars get destroyed :o




I wish they never re paved 'Dega....It looks too...Dyatona-ish. The old 'Dega looked old and dangerous....very second in the pack was a risk...with all the cracks and bumps. now that it's smooth now. it takes a little but less skill to drive through the race. yes, i know, it takes MOMENTEOUS amount of talent and balls to drive inches away from 43 OTHER CARS AT 190 mph...but still....:o

Yes, i'm just bitter becasue Jeff Gordon can't figure out that you have to win more than finish in the top 10.....the young drivers are taken OVAH! :eek:

[Alex The Great]

Jimmie Johnson Beat. That. Ass last night. props to him.

[NewYorkSpider]

I thought it was a boring race. There were only 3 people who led. That's unusual for Bristol.

California this weekend. I like Greg Biffle to take the checkered flag.

Well, I was close. Biffle finished second. Richmond is up next for the Chevy Rock & Roll 400. I think Jimmie will take 2 in a row.

[NewYorkSpider]

Well, I was close. Biffle finished second. Richmond is up next for the Chevy Rock & Roll 400. I think Jimmie will take 2 in a row.

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[NewYorkSpider]

Denny Hamlin will win this weekend.

[BlackLantern]

What's the general racing fans feeling towards Lagano? He is from Connecticut so I feel like I should support the guy

[NewYorkSpider]

Lagano has impressed me since he's made his way up through the ranks. For him to win a race in NASCAR's lower series at the age of 18 is truely impressive. He's going to be running some races in the Sprint Cup series(NASCAR's highest series) over the next 10 weeks. Next year he's going to be with a team that has won two championships in 4 years. I think he's going to be a very good driver.

The only concern I have with him is coming in at a lower age. Usually drivers come up between the ages of 22-25. He's still only 18.

[Immortalfire]

Here we go again...Daytona!

I wonder who Matt is pulling for.

[NewYorkSpider]

My favorite driver is Carl Edwards, but I'd love to see Mark Martin win it.


My prediction though is Tony Stewart.

[Immortalfire]

Kenseth wins. I wonder how much Matt lost on that one.

[Marx]

I don't get to watch a whole lot of NASCAR, but I always love watching the Daytona 500!

[NewYorkSpider]

Damn mother nature! :cmad: Had to ruin a good race. Congrats to Kenseth.

[Alex The Great]

They should have done the rest of the race today...would have been a good finish :csad:

[Marx]

Damn mother nature! :cmad: Had to ruin a good race. Congrats to Kenseth.

I was hoping they would have postponed the race...instead of calling it with less the 50 laps to go. :csad:

[Alex The Great]

haha, Billy Ray Cyrus just screwed up the Anthem a bit for the truck race....
Bad Mic. :hehe:

[Alex The Great]

Alright, Short tracks. I love the crashe and stuff there. Bristol is amazing. I went to Martinsville 2 years ago for a race, Great atmosphere. acing EVERYWHERE. It's like an endless line ofcars going by. Me and my dad are hoping to get cikets to a Bristol Race, maybe the night one.

[NewYorkSpider]

Boring race today. I had Harvick for my race pool and he didn't do ****. :down

[NewYorkSpider]

Cool to see Mark Martin back in victory lane. 3rd oldest driver to win a Sprint Cup race.

[NewYorkSpider]

Matt Kenseth just had a scary crash at Talladega.

[NewYorkSpider]

I thought Kenseth's crash was scary yesterday. Edwards car went up in the catchfence. Thank god he and the fans are ok. :csad:

[El_Citrus]

That crash was damn scary, but Brad did nothing wrong. Good thing Carl's okay, a few years earlier and he would have been in the hospital. Wow.

[Hobodeluxe]

Very good race and cool finish

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[NewYorkSpider]

That crash was damn scary, but Brad did nothing wrong. Good thing Carl's okay, a few years earlier and he would have been in the hospital. Wow.

Your absolutely right. Brad did nothing wrong in this situation. I think Nascar needs to look at the "below the yellow line" rule. If Brad was allowed to pass him under the line on the final lap, that incident wouldn't have happened. It's pretty ironic that NASCAR want to make races safer. Look what happened.


Eight fans injured during that wreck.

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This is how the race should've ended.

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Regan Smith went under the yellow line to not cause an accident. Instead, NASCAR stripped him of the win and gave it Stewart. If Regan had done the same thing as Kesalowski(sp?), Stewart would've been in the catchfence or caused a huge wreck.

[El_Citrus]

Your absolutely right. Brad did nothing wrong in this situation. I think Nascar needs to look at the "below the yellow line" rule. If Brad was allowed to pass him under the line on the final lap, that incident wouldn't have happened. It's pretty ironic that NASCAR want to make races safer. Look what happened.


Eight fans injured during that wreck.

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This is how the race should've ended.

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Regan Smith went under the yellow line to not cause an accident. Instead, NASCAR stripped him of the win and gave it Stewart. If Regan had done the same thing as Kesalowski(sp?), Stewart would've been in the catchfence or caused a huge wreck.


I think that it could get looked at due to people actualy being hurt by this rule. I get that they don't want people passing outside of the designated track since that could cause problems as well.

I would say that if your entire car goes below the yellow line, meaning that the cameras can see the yellow line from the right side of your car, and you make a pass, then it should be considered a penalty unless you're forced down there, that way, Kesolowski could have gone below the line with most of his car, made the pass safely and won the race.

If they had thought about it ahead of time, they could have made Talladega really unique if they put the grandstand on the inside of the tri oval, blocked off by the fence with the infield grass as a barrier as well, while moving pit road to the backstretch. The people in the tri oval would be much safer since the incline there is how crashes like Edward's happens (It would take a freakish fluke for a car to elevate like that into the fence on the flat back stretch, much much less likely than the front stretch). I may be just rambling, but I think a complete overhaul in how tracks are designed as far as fan placement would greatly improve things and provide a bit of variety and individuality to each track. [/ramble]

[NewYorkSpider]

I think that it could get looked at due to people actualy being hurt by this rule. I get that they don't want people passing outside of the designated track since that could cause problems as well.

There's no reason why NASCAR can't let them pass below the yellow line on the final lap. I think it would've saved an accident, as well as fans getting injured. I was a pretty big Dale Earnhardt fan. After his death in 01', I stopped rooting for just one driver, and watched NASCAR just for the fun of it. I then became a pretty big Edwards fan. I thought it was happening all over again.




I would say that if your entire car goes below the yellow line, meaning that the cameras can see the yellow line from the right side of your car, and you make a pass, then it should be considered a penalty unless you're forced down there, that way, Kesolowski could have gone below the line with most of his car, made the pass safely and won the race.



I like this rule. It should just be for the final lap, though. Drivers shouldn't be that aggresive untill 20 to go.

If they had thought about it ahead of time, they could have made Talladega really unique if they put the grandstand on the inside of the tri oval, blocked off by the fence with the infield grass as a barrier as well, while moving pit road to the backstretch. The people in the tri oval would be much safer since the incline there is how crashes like Edward's happens (It would take a freakish fluke for a car to elevate like that into the fence on the flat back stretch, much much less likely than the front stretch). I may be just rambling, but I think a complete overhaul in how tracks are designed as far as fan placement would greatly improve things and provide a bit of variety and individuality to each track. [/ramble]


Edwards wouldn't have gone in the catchfence if it wasn't for Ryan Newman. Newman launced Edwards in the air more. If Newman wasn't there, then Edwards would've simply done this.

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[El_Citrus]

There's no reason why NASCAR can't let them pass below the yellow line on the final lap. I think it would've saved an accident, as well as fans getting injured. I was a pretty big Dale Earnhardt fan. After his death in 01', I stopped rooting for just one driver, and watched NASCAR just for the fun of it. I then became a pretty big Edwards fan. I thought it was happening all over again.

I am the same way! I didn't latch onto Jr., and tend to lean towards Stewart more nowadays but am not an outright fan of any particular driver except maybe Mark Martin.




I like this rule. It should just be for the final lap, though. Drivers shouldn't be that aggresive untill 20 to go.

They shouldn't be, but they will be for most of the race. A big wreck like that can happen at anytime, not just the last lap. The rule should apply to the entire race.


Edwards wouldn't have gone in the catchfence if it wasn't for Ryan Newman. Newman launced Edwards in the air more. If Newman wasn't there, then Edwards would've simply done this.

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True, it's a rare set of circumstances that will most likely be solved with a tougher fence, but I'm just trying to think outsideof the box to keep fans safe and happy.

[NewYorkSpider]

I am the same way! I didn't latch onto Jr., and tend to lean towards Stewart more nowadays but am not an outright fan of any particular driver except maybe Mark Martin.

I like Dale Jr., but he's extremely overrated. JR fans can't blame the equipment he's in now. He won a race last season at Michigan, but it was on fuel milege. I always root for the underdogs at races or drivers that haven't won in a long time. The last few weeks have been pretty exciting for me. I'm happy Brad got the win today.




They shouldn't be, but they will be for most of the race. A big wreck like that can happen at anytime, not just the last lap. The rule should apply to the entire race.

Some drivers are aggresive the first 10 laps of the race. Just look what happend 7 laps into this race. If you make the rule for the entire race, you'll see far more accidents IMO. I honestly don't know why they're aggresive that early. The race is 188 laps, not 7.





True, it's a rare set of circumstances that will most likely be solved with a tougher fence, but I'm just trying to think outsideof the box to keep fans safe and happy.

There have been 2 other accidents like Edwards.(Bobby Allison and Geoff Bodine) The fences have done their job. I really don't see them changing anything in the future as far as where the grandstand's are. Newman said in his post-race interview on NASCAR.com that they need to figure out how to keep the cars on the ground. It's gonna take a lot to keep at 3500lb stock car on the ground going 190MPH. The restrictor plates and roof flaps are as close as they're going to get.

[El_Citrus]

Some drivers are aggresive the first 10 laps of the race. Just look what happend 7 laps into this race. If you make the rule for the entire race, you'll see far more accidents IMO. I honestly don't know why they're aggresive that early. The race is 188 laps, not 7.

Aggressive driving is what caused Edwards' wreck in the first palce. I understand that guys will be using the yellow line more often, but you can't just draw the line at the final lap for this rule since big wrecks are caused during the final ten and twenty laps as well. The rule should be spread across the entire race that if there is indisputable evidence that your entire car is below the yellow line without provocation and you make a pass, you will be penalized.




There have been 2 other accidents like Edwards.(Bobby Allison and Geoff Bodine) The fences have done their job. I really don't see them changing anything in the future as far as where the grandstand's are. Newman said in his post-race interview on NASCAR.com that they need to figure out how to keep the cars on the ground. It's gonna take a lot to keep at 3500lb stock car on the ground going 190MPH. The restrictor plates and roof flaps are as close as they're going to get.

Very true. Just me being imaginative again. They do need to work on breaking up the big packs though. Something like a smaller engine or something that reduces the horsepower while still allowing the acceleration that the restrictor plate takes away and keeps these guys bunched up.

[NewYorkSpider]

Aggressive driving is what caused Edwards' wreck in the first palce. I understand that guys will be using the yellow line more often, but you can't just draw the line at the final lap for this rule since big wrecks are caused during the final ten and twenty laps as well. The rule should be spread across the entire race that if there is indisputable evidence that your entire car is below the yellow line without provocation and you make a pass, you will be penalized.


Edwards wasn't being that aggressive. He was simply trying to get back down in front of Keselowski. He stated in his interview that he didn't think he was there yet. Brad wasn't being aggressive either. He pushed Edwards and then went down low. I still disagree with you about having it for the whole race. They'd be having wrecks just like the Dale Jr./Vickers incident at the Daytona 500 this year. Most drivers would've tried to pass Carl up high. Others simply would've stayed in line and took second. Brad, in this instance, had nothing to lose. He's a rookie and will do anything to win.


This is the view from the stands in Edwards' wreck. This would freak me out. Make sure your volume is down. It's a little loud

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[Alex The Great]

Talladega is my faveiorate track. Man, I got to see a race there, but note to self. Don't get front row seats! 1 of the fans actually got a broken jaw!

Now it's time for some me love.

1. Hats off to the folks at 'Dega for building a strong fence. I thought that fence was going to buckle and kill people. Wow.

2. Kudos to Nascar, If this crasha had happened a few years ago, people, would have been killed. The old car was a missle when in the air....

3. To Brad, he raced well. He wasn't agressive at all. Carl went down to block but Brads fender was there. It was an accident.

4. To Carl. I'm glad he didn't go storming off to chat with Brad. He showed Class

[Immortalfire]

I saw the replay of the crash this morning..a total miracle that the car didn't break through the fence :eek:

[Marx]

Very good race and cool finish

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I'm still trying to figure out how that car didn't go THROUGH the fence! Yikes...

[NewYorkSpider]

I saw the replay of the crash this morning..a total miracle that the car didn't break through the fence :eek:

I'm still trying to figure out how that car didn't go THROUGH the fence! Yikes...

It wouldn't have gone through. The fences NASCAR has built have been pretty safe. That accident is nothing compared to Geoff Bodine's crash at Daytona.

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[El_Citrus]

See below....Damn double post.

[El_Citrus]

Edwards wasn't being that aggressive. He was simply trying to get back down in front of Keselowski. He stated in his interview that he didn't think he was there yet. Brad wasn't being aggressive either. He pushed Edwards and then went down low. I still disagree with you about having it for the whole race. They'd be having wrecks just like the Dale Jr./Vickers incident at the Daytona 500 this year. Most drivers would've tried to pass Carl up high. Others simply would've stayed in line and took second. Brad, in this instance, had nothing to lose. He's a rookie and will do anything to win.

The Jr/Vickers wreck was more about Jr being frustrated and getting pissed at being blocked like that than a yellow line issue. He wasn't trying to pass, he was blocked down there and did what Regan Smith did at Dega and what Kesolowski would have done if a modified rule was in place. Drivers are always going to block during the race, it jsut increases during the waning laps, so the rule should apply to the whole race. Maybe tweak it to not penalize a driver if he's forced down.

The bigger issue, to me, should be slowing these cars down in some way that also seperates pack. Nascar will likely only introduce a bigger restrictor plate which is a temporary solution but not the right one. I still think a smaller engine should be looked into, where it can only crank enough horsepower to get the cars up to about 200 mph max while allowing the freedom of not losing your momentum from losing the draft.

[NewYorkSpider]

Watch the Vickers/Dale Jr. incident again. JR was clearly trying to pass. He then came back over and timed it wrong.

They can't go with a bigger restrictor plate. That would make them go faster. Dale Jarret said they're more than likely gonna go with a smaller restrictor plate. As for the fans, they should move them back much farther than where they're at.

Also, if you watch the Edwards wreck again, Newman would have won the race if he wasn't hi. He had A LOT of momentum.

[El_Citrus]

Watch the Vickers/Dale Jr. incident again. JR was clearly trying to pass. He then came back over and timed it wrong.

Exactly. He got blocked down below the line when he went to pass and got frustrated and made it back onto the track too early. He wasn't trying to intentionally go below the yellow line to pass, which is why I think the block rule should be changed, where if you are forced down below the yellow line and make a pass during the race, you won't be penalized, and the blocker could get a warning or worse for aggressive driving. It would be a case by case basis, but it would have still allowed Kesolowski to make the pass and Edwards to not destroy the fence.

They can't go with a bigger restrictor plate. That would make them go faster. Dale Jarret said they're more than likely gonna go with a smaller restrictor plate. As for the fans, they should move them back much farther than where they're at.

I meant larger in terms of mass of the plate, same thing as Jarret saying smaller referring to the size of the holes. Slowing the cars down further isn't going to solve this, but it's all that Nascar can do this year. I'd like to see them heavily consider something more drastic like a smaller engine in order to get rid of the restrictor plate and break up the pack. I love watching ten rows three wide and seeing a guy work through the pack, but it's just not good for the drivers who get caught up in the big one.

The fans do need moved back from the track and increase the mesh in the fence. I'm not really sure what else they could do for safety.

Also, if you watch the Edwards wreck again, Newman would have won the race if he wasn't hi. He had A LOT of momentum.

He might have beat out Kesolowski, but the momentum I'm talking about is if you let off the gas or lose the draft because of the restrictor plate. Finding a way to eliminate the plate while keeping the speeds down would allow the drivers more freedom around the track and prevent big packs and huge wrecks.

[NewYorkSpider]

Exactly. He got blocked down below the line when he went to pass and got frustrated and made it back onto the track too early. He wasn't trying to intentionally go below the yellow line to pass, which is why I think the block rule should be changed, where if you are forced down below the yellow line and make a pass during the race, you won't be penalized, and the blocker could get a warning or worse for aggressive driving. It would be a case by case basis, but it would have still allowed Kesolowski to make the pass and Edwards to not destroy the fence.

I agree. They need harsher penalties. But it's not gonna save a huge accident from happening IMO. In this case, Vickers should have been penalizied for aggresive driving. The penalty wouldn't have taken affect since he was out of the race. I think docking points for something like this needs to be looked at.

Chad Knaus wants for Talladega and Daytona to adopt a rule where you can only fill your car up with gas during the green flag. He said this would seperate the pack. I honestly don't think it will help much.





I meant larger in terms of mass of the plate, same thing as Jarret saying smaller referring to the size of the holes. Slowing the cars down further isn't going to solve this, but it's all that Nascar can do this year. I'd like to see them heavily consider something more drastic like a smaller engine in order to get rid of the restrictor plate and break up the pack. I love watching ten rows three wide and seeing a guy work through the pack, but it's just not good for the drivers who get caught up in the big one.


I misunderstood what you meant with the smaller ristrictor plate. Michael Waltrip said it best on Nascar Victory Lane. "Nobody said we had sign up for this. We're gonna wreck anywhere we go. If Edwards and Keselowski had done the same thing at Richmond, the same result would've happened, only Edwards wasn't gonna get airborn and into the fence."

He has a point here. The only concern I have right now is the fans and their saftey. The drivers are a safe as they'll ever be for awhile.


The fans do need moved back from the track and increase the mesh in the fence. I'm not really sure what else they could do for safety.


We agree. I think they could put up a plexiglass in front of them. They would still be able to see the race with no problems. I'm not sure how that would work out.

He might have beat out Kesolowski, but the momentum I'm talking about is if you let off the gas or lose the draft because of the restrictor plate. Finding a way to eliminate the plate while keeping the speeds down would allow the drivers more freedom around the track and prevent big packs and huge wrecks.

I wasn't arguing about the restrictor plates here. It was just simply a "what if" scenerio.

[El_Citrus]

I agree. They need harsher penalties. But it's not gonna save a huge accident from happening IMO. In this case, Vickers should have been penalizied for aggresive driving. The penalty wouldn't have taken affect since he was out of the race. I think docking points for something like this needs to be looked at.

Chad Knaus wants for Talladega and Daytona to adopt a rule where you can only fill your car up with gas during the green flag. He said this would seperate the pack. I honestly don't think it will help much.

That might help, but in the end, they'll all pit mostly together to stay keep a pack of cars together for the draft, but as we saw, you really only need two.




I misunderstood what you meant with the smaller ristrictor plate. Michael Waltrip said it best on Nascar Victory Lane. "Nobody said we had sign up for this. We're gonna wreck anywhere we go. If Edwards and Keselowski had done the same thing at Richmond, the same result would've happened, only Edwards wasn't gonna get airborn and into the fence."

He has a point here. The only concern I have right now is the fans and their saftey. The drivers are a safe as they'll ever be for awhile.

While that's true, nowhere else do more cars get torn up in one fell swoop (or three in this case) than at Talladega and Daytona. You practically have a 50/50 chance of makin git through the wrecks and it should be that way to have so many cars get taken out with one wreck. Yeah, there are tons of wrecks at other tracks, but none that cause the devastation that a simple restrictor plate does. Nascar isn't going to change it because it's the only safe method at the moment.



We agree. I think they could put up a plexiglass in front of them. They would still be able to see the race with no problems. I'm not sure how that would work out.

I've thought of this as well. I've tried wrapping my head around some kind of plexiglass ceiling that could cover the race track somehow in case of rain but nothing could really work. I think a plexiglass wall behind the mesh would work. Move the fans back and give the fence some room between it and the plexiglass.



I wasn't arguing about the restrictor plates here. It was just simply a "what if" scenerio.

Yeah, well too bad.........:oldrazz: (I was on a roll.)

[NewYorkSpider]

That might help, but in the end, they'll all pit mostly together to stay keep a pack of cars together for the draft, but as we saw, you really only need two.


There's really no way to fix aggressive driving. I think the only way to tone it down is to dock points or park the car for the rest of the race.



While that's true, nowhere else do more cars get torn up in one fell swoop (or three in this case) than at Talladega and Daytona. You practically have a 50/50 chance of makin git through the wrecks and it should be that way to have so many cars get taken out with one wreck. Yeah, there are tons of wrecks at other tracks, but none that cause the devastation that a simple restrictor plate does. Nascar isn't going to change it because it's the only safe method at the moment.


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While it doesn't happen that often, it has happened at other race tracks. Plate racing is fine IMO. These drivers have the ability to race without getting into the big one. They've done it before. (2001 Spring Race Talladega). That's probably one of the craziest finishes I've ever seen. They were 5-6 wide. :eek:


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The more I think about it, the sadder I feel for Edwards. He stayed in the back the entire race and got wrecked on the final lap. :csad:

[El_Citrus]

There's really no way to fix aggressive driving. I think the only way to tone it down is to dock points or park the car for the rest of the race.

I agree.




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While it doesn't happen that often, it has happened at other race tracks. Plate racing is fine IMO. These drivers have the ability to race without getting into the big one. They've done it before. (2001 Spring Race Talladega). That's probably one of the craziest finishes I've ever seen. They were 5-6 wide. :eek:


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The more I think about it, the sadder I feel for Edwards. He stayed in the back the entire race and got wrecked on the final lap. :csad:


I'm not saying that it doesn't happen at other tracks, but wit hplate racing, the smallest mistake is magnified immensely. There are times where the drivers are lucky and make it through without a big one which makes for damn exciting racing, but that doesn't change the odds that huge wrecks are much more likely to happen at Dega and Daytona. There's probably nothing they can really do to seperate the packs AND keep the speeds low at the same time, but I wish they would look into any alternatives.

[NewYorkSpider]

This is great article by Duane Cross.

Talladega (http://www.nascar.com/2009/news/opinion/04/28/cross.words.talladega/index.html)


And Jimmie Johnson is a ****ing sissy. If he honestly thinks they're going fast, he needs to watch the Indy 500. :whatever:


Terry Blount and I agree on the Yellow Line Rule

Terry_Blount (http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/nascar/cup/columns/story?columnist=blount_terry&id=4106993)

[El_Citrus]

This is great article by Duane Cross.

Talladega (http://www.nascar.com/2009/news/opinion/04/28/cross.words.talladega/index.html)


And Jimmie Johnson is a ****ing sissy. If he honestly thinks they're going fast, he needs to watch the Indy 500. :whatever:


Terry Blount and I agree on the Yellow Line Rule

Terry_Blount (http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/nascar/cup/columns/story?columnist=blount_terry&id=4106993)



Really good articles. I see the other side of the yellow line arguement, but if it was modified so that dipping below to avoid causing a wreck due to a block would not be penalized, it would still do its job and allow Kesolowski to move below the line to prevent a wreck. It would only take Nascar a couple minutes to review the footage to see he would have gone down to avoid the block and would still be awarded the win and Edwards most likely would have finished second.

[NewYorkSpider]

I'm gald there's someone on here to debate racing with me. :up:


What's your thoughts on the points system? I don't like the fact that a guy who's 12th in points could have 4 wins, the guy in first could have 1 win and they're be separated by 400 points.

The guy in 12th would be ahead of the guy who's first at the start of the chase. To me that's wrong. The guy who's first in points should start at the top. I like what they did in 2004-2006. Started the guy in 1st with 5045 points, the next guy 5040 points and so on. It's much better that way IMO.

[El_Citrus]

I'm gald there's someone on here to debate racing with me. :up:


What's your thoughts on the points system? I don't like the fact that a guy who's 12th in points could have 4 wins, the guy in first could have 1 win and they're be separated by 400 points.

The guy in 12th would be ahead of the guy who's first at the start of the chase. To me that's wrong. The guy who's first in points should start at the top. I like what they did in 2004-2006. Started the guy in 1st with 5045 points, the next guy 5040 points and so on. It's much better that way IMO.

Yeah, they wanted to add drama by having drivers go for wins instead of points racing into the Chase. I would keep the Chase at 10 cars, and every driver starts with 5000 points, with the leader at the end of the regular season earning say 50 extra points, while everyone earns ten bonus points for every win. I'm way too tired to think completely straight at the moment, but that's basically how I would have it.

[NewYorkSpider]

Richmond this weekend.

Pick to win - Kyle Busch
Darkhorse - David Reutimann

[El_Citrus]

Pick to win - Tony Stewart

Darkhorse - Dale Jr

[BlackLantern]

I'm not completely into racing, but I keep up with anything big going on....

[NewYorkSpider]

Richmond this weekend.

Pick to win - Kyle Busch
Darkhorse - David Reutimann

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[El_Citrus]

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You're lucky there was no caution during the last 20 laps (WTF) or MY pick would have one. :cmad::whatever:















:oldrazz: Nice job dude.

[NewYorkSpider]

You're lucky there was no caution during the last 20 laps (WTF) or MY pick would have one. :cmad::whatever:
:oldrazz: Nice job dude.

I should be a NASCAR analyst. Just look at these picks.


There is a lot of unknowns coming into a 2-mile track with the new car. History shows that a Roush or Hendrick driver should win. I like Carl Edwards this weekend.

Won the race at California.

I thought it was a boring race. There were only 3 people who led. That's unusual for Bristol.

California this weekend. I like Greg Biffle to take the checkered flag.

Finished 2nd

Well, I was close. Biffle finished second. Richmond is up next for the Chevy Rock & Roll 400. I think Jimmie will take 2 in a row.

Won at Richmond

Denny Hamlin will win this weekend.

Finished 8th.

My favorite driver is Carl Edwards, but I'd love to see Mark Martin win it.


My prediction though is Tony Stewart.

Finshed 8th

Richmond this weekend.

Pick to win - Kyle Busch
Darkhorse - David Reutimann

Won at Richmond.

[Alex The Great]

Jeff Gordon really needed a Top 10 finish after the last 2 races. Good on him :up:

[El_Citrus]

Gordon, Kurt Busch, Ryan Newman and Tony Stewart are having amazing years this year, considering Gordon and Busch's last season and all of the variables surrounding Stewart and Newman last year, who also had a bad year last year.

If Dale Jr. were in the NFL Draft, I'd have called him a massive bust by now. Even with Hendrick power, he still can't get a win (Throwing out the lucky win at Michigan).

[NewYorkSpider]

David Reutimann and Marcus Ambrose have really impressed me this year. I wouldn't be surprised to see either of them get in victory lane. Ambrose I'm leaning more towards winning on a road course.

[El_Citrus]

David Reutimann and Marcus Ambrose have really impressed me this year. I wouldn't be surprised to see either of them get in victory lane. Ambrose I'm leaning more towards winning on a road course.

I forgot to mention these two. Michael Waltrip may need to step aside from racing to assume an owner role, but he's got two GREAT drivers who are developing far better than I expected. Ambrose will win a road course this year and Reutimann should get a win this year. Who would have thought these two would excel while Logano has struggled?

[NewYorkSpider]

Darlington

Pick to win - Carl Edwards
Darkhorse - Martin Truex Jr.

[El_Citrus]

Winner - Kyle Busch
Darkhorse - Greg Biffle

[NewYorkSpider]

I don't consider Greg Biffle a darkhorse. He finished third in the points last season and he's in the top 12th in points this season.

Carl Edwards' crew chief Bob Osbourne should be kicked in the ass. :whatever: They keep going with a four tire stop and end up back in 16th/17th spot. If he takes two tires, he gains the track position that he needs. It's CLEARLY working for everyone else.

2 tires for Edwards. :wow::applaud


Congrats to Greg Biffle. :up: What a great team mate

[El_Citrus]

I consider anyone as a possible darkhorse other than who I think will win but I won't split hairs there.

Great win for Mark Martin. He is the feel good story of this season and I'm rooting for him all the way.

As if Jr. sounded depressed enough before this race, he finishes 27th and continues to flounder.

[NewYorkSpider]

A darkhorse pick, IMO, is someone who you don't expect to win that weekend, someone who hasn't won in quite some time or someone who's never won a race. It wouldn't have surprised me if Biffle won at Darlington since he's won there twice.

Great win for Mark Martin. He's going to win more races this season.

Hendrick needs to fix something in the JR. camp. They need to change crew chiefs. It worked over in the RCR camp with Harvick and Mears.

[El_Citrus]

A darkhorse pick, IMO, is someone who you don't expect to win that weekend, someone who hasn't won in quite some time or someone who's never won a race. It wouldn't have surprised me if Biffle won at Darlington since he's won there twice.

Great win for Mark Martin. He's going to win more races this season.

Hendrick needs to fix something in the JR. camp. They need to change crew chiefs. It worked over in the RCR camp with Harvick and Mears.

True, but in that case, there's only a handful of drivers to choose from but again, I won't split hairs on it.

I hope he can pry Johnson's fourth straight championship away. What a story it would be for Mark to finally win himself a championship.

I just think it's a mix of bad luck and something wrong in Jr's head. I think he's feeling the pressure of the media, the fans, his team, and it's effecting how he races.

[NewYorkSpider]

I'd like to see Mark win the championship and follow it up with the 2010 Daytona 500 win. Martin is probably the greatest driver without a championship.

I would've thought the pressure would be over with. He was third in points entering the chase last season. I still think a crew chief change should happen, despite the relationship between him Tony Eury Jr.

[El_Citrus]

I'd like to see Mark win the championship and follow it up with the 2010 Daytona 500 win. Martin is probably the greatest driver without a championship.

I would've thought the pressure would be over with. He was third in points entering the chase last season. I still think a crew chief change should happen, despite the relationship between him Tony Eury Jr.

That would be a fairytale ending, but it's possible neither could happen. I'm so rooting for a championship from him this year though.

He only won one race last year though, and everyone is expecting far more than that from him, especially with the best equipment in Nascar. A crew chief change didn't work when he was teamed with Michael Waltrip, and Hendrick isn't going to split up Martin, Johnson, and Gordon from their crew chiefs while they're all doing well. It would have to be a completely new chief for Jr.

[NewYorkSpider]

Hendrick has Lance McGrew on the #25 team the Brad Keselowski ran tonight in the cup race if i'm not mistaken. McGrew worked with Brian Vickers in the Nationwide series and they won a championship together. I think he would be a great replacement. He also got Vickers to his first win at Talladega.

[El_Citrus]

I think it will come to that eventually because that's the only thing Hendrick can do to try and right this ship. Martin was about in the same position a few races into the season and now he's in the top 12, there should be no excuse for Jr. to be struggling like this. He's had some of the worst bad luck this season mixed with frustration and just mediocre performance so something will eventually be done to try and right his ship.


All-Star Race next week. I'm looking forward to that and the pre-race burnout contests.

[NewYorkSpider]

I love the All-Star race, but it should be held after the season. Then they should add a race into it's spot. Kentucky has been ready for a NASCAR date.

[El_Citrus]

That's actually a great idea. I even wouldn't mind if the schedule went down to 35 races to end the season a bit earlier and give teams a couple weeks before the All-Star race, which they can take to different tracks while Lowe's gets the most over the course of so many years.

I'd love to see a Sprint race at Kentucky or even Nashville. I'd say take one of the two races at places like Las Vegas or Atlanta and add in more short tracks.

[NewYorkSpider]

I think the drivers need a week off after the Daytona 500. The winner has to travel to New York City and do all sorts of interviews. Although, my arguement here might not hold up since Matt Kenseth won the first two races.

[NewYorkSpider]

Congrats to Stewart. What an exciting All-Star race. Bringing back the 10 lap segment at the end was brilliant. I told my friends that Ryan Newman would win this race. He came pretty darn close. He's my pick for the Coca-Cola 600.

[El_Citrus]

Agreed. That was an incredible All-Star race, from Kyle going three wide to Gordon wrecking to Stewart taking the lead. Great stuff.

[Soundwave]

Count me among the fools that thought Stewart would struggle this year with the new team but that guy is simply way too talented to bet against.

[NewYorkSpider]

Count me among the fools that thought Stewart would struggle this year with the new team but that guy is simply way too talented to bet against.

I don't know why people thought he would struggle. He went to an organazation who's basically powered by Hendrick.



Congrats to Stewart. What an exciting All-Star race. Bringing back the 10 lap segment at the end was brilliant. I told my friends that Ryan Newman would win this race. He came pretty darn close. He's my pick for the Coca-Cola 600.


He's starting on pole. I think he has a nice chance to win.


Pick to win - Ryan Newman
Darkhorse - Juan Pablo Montoya

[NewYorkSpider]

Damn! I wanted Tony Kanan to win the Indianapolis 500. :csad: Glad he's alright after that accident.

[El_Citrus]

Damn! I wanted Tony Kanan to win the Indianapolis 500. Glad he's alright after that accident.

That was a rough hit into the wall. I'd drive a Nascar before I ever race in an Indy Car because I don't think I could stand how vulnerable you seem to be when you wreck. The two drivers that got together near the end of the race was sick too.

The 600 might get in with about a 50% chance of showers.

Winner- Tony Stewart
Darkhorse - Bobby Labonte

[Marx]

Damn! I wanted Tony Kanan to win the Indianapolis 500. :csad: Glad he's alright after that accident.

I was hoping Danica Patrick would get the win.

Kanan's accident was a bad one. I was glad to see he's ok too.

[NewYorkSpider]

David Reutimann and Marcus Ambrose have really impressed me this year. I wouldn't be surprised to see either of them get in victory lane. Ambrose I'm leaning more towards winning on a road course.

Not how I imagined it, but congrats to David Reuitmann and MWR. Really exciting to see a first time winner.

Hendrick seems to want to pull the plug on Tony Eury Jr. I hope he does. SOMETHING needs to change over there.

[El_Citrus]

I agree that it wasn't just luck, but a brilliant call by Reutimann's crew chief to leave him out and eventually get him the win. Hopefully this propels Ambrose further as well, who I see claiming one of the road courses.

[El_Citrus]

Tony Eury Jr. is OUT as Earnhardt Jr's crew chief. Lance McGrew will be taking over at Pocono on June 7th. Get ready for ESPN's NASCAR coverage to be about nothing but...Chief-gate(?) all the way through Dover and Pocono.

[NewYorkSpider]

Hendrick has Lance McGrew on the #25 team the Brad Keselowski ran tonight in the cup race if i'm not mistaken. McGrew worked with Brian Vickers in the Nationwide series and they won a championship together. I think he would be a great replacement. He also got Vickers to his first win at Talladega.

Tony Eury Jr. is OUT as Earnhardt Jr's crew chief. Lance McGrew will be taking over at Pocono on June 7th. Get ready for ESPN's NASCAR coverage to be about nothing but...Chief-gate(?) all the way through Dover and Pocono.

Dale Jr. will be running a lot better IMO. This was a great move. They can't wait any longer or he'll be out of the chase.

[El_Citrus]

Can you throw some lottery numbers out there? Just for the hell of it???

[NewYorkSpider]

Powerball? 3, 8, 13, 18, 33 (9) :up:

Dover:

Pick to win - Carl Edwards
Darkhorse - Jamie McMurray

[NewYorkSpider]

Congrats to Jimmie Johnson. Had a great car all day long.

[El_Citrus]

I agree. I thought he wouldn't make it, but that was a superb piece of driving to get back to the front. The summer stretch really picks up now with Nascar switching to TNT/NBC and Daytona around the corner.

[BlackLantern]

NBC got NASCAR back this year??

[Alex The Great]

NBC got NASCAR back this year??
I don't think so.

I hate ESPN's coverage :down

[BlackLantern]

NASCAR needs to do something with their TV coverage.....some races on ESPN, some on Fox, some on TNT....its stupid

[El_Citrus]

NASCAR needs to do something with their TV coverage.....some races on ESPN, some on Fox, some on TNT....its stupid

FOX does their coverage from Daytona til usually the week before the second Daytona race, then TNT/NBC take over for the summer, with ESPN getting the Chase to the Championship and a few other summer races. I agree that they need to find one network that can cover most or all of the season.

[BlackLantern]

NASCAR is big enough at this point where they can say that their tv coverage goes to the highest bidder....one network for all the races

[NewYorkSpider]

NBC doesn't have NASCAR coverage anymore. All the races are on TNT untill the Allstate 400 at the Brickyard. Then ESPN takes over untill the Richmond race. Then the races will all be on ABC. If Fox replaced Darrell Waltrip with Kyle Petty, it would be a whole lot better. I really can't stand D.W that much.


NASCAR is about to get more exciting.

http://www.nascar.com/2009/news/headlines/cup/06/04/double.file.restarts/index.html


I'm interested to see how this turns out. It worked great in the All-Star Race.

[El_Citrus]

Damn, NASCAR finally makes a good change to their race format. I'm very intrigued to see where this goes, especially lapped cars staying out under caution to get a lap back.

[NewYorkSpider]

Kyle Busch just broke his trophy that he won at Nashville on purpose. (He won a guitar.). I kinda find that disrespectful to the people who made that and the people who present it to him. If he didn't want it, he could have sold it on EBay and gave the money to charity. What an ass.

[El_Citrus]

Yeah, I think he was going for a more "Rockstar" celebration, but I can already see the backlash from doing that only adding to his "Bad Boy" image. I figure if there's enough of an uproar, then I figure he'll sign it and sell it on Ebay. I thought it was disrespectful and a bit immature, especially considering those guitars probably cost quite a bit to make.