Does Anybody Really Care About Steroids In Baseball?

[Ghostvirus]

Honestly. I hear talk of this Mitchum report about the Roids, & I just wonder:

1. Does anyone honestly give a sh**!?

2. Does anyone even care about the skilless game of Baseball anymore anyway?

[Joker]

I dont think anyone has really cared about baseball for years. I dont even think it should be considered the national passtime anymore, as you know, football is about a hundred times more popular.

[X-Punisher]

I dont think anyone has really cared about baseball for years. I dont even think it should be considered the national passtime anymore, as you know, football is about a hundred times more popular.

Also baseball players think too highly of themselves, calling it the "World Series" when only America (and maybe Canada) take part in the league. Also it's the most boring sport alive. All they do is run around bases. The only strategy in the game is batting line-up.

[Gilpesh]

Maris > McGwire or Bonds

[StorminNorman]

No.

[Lighthouse]

Don't care about steriods in baseball, cause I don't really care about baseball anymore. Actually, I don't think I like any professional sport. I'd rather go out and play it with some buddies then sit and watch a bunch of overpaid jocks play it.

[ComicChick]

steroids in any sport is wrong. it's an unfair advantage.

if you ignore the numerous health risks, it's simply cheating. i've always seen it as undermining the people who work hard to be where they are and maintain their performance levels. taking something to get a step ahead is kinda cheating to me. Put in the work and effort everyone else is and do it the right way.

[Ghostvirus]

But the way it is looking in Baseball everybody is doing it. So is it still cheating if everyone is on the same level?

[Jerry!]

Not everyone is doing it. This was put in the wrong forum obviously because of the first few responses, but as a baseball fan I do care about steroids and HGH in baseball, but it will never get to a point where I will stop watching or stop going to the games. Thats what people/sports writers seem to have trouble understanding. They think the average baseball fan doesn't care, but they do, its just that it won't be enough to keep them away from the game they love.

[CyrusDaVirus]

Baseball has been losing it's appeal for a few years now. What made it somewhat interesting are the homerun records being broken, started by McGwire and Sosa a few years back. Not sure if 'roids are good for the sport, but it did bring excitement and attention to the game. Do any of you actually enjoy watching a 'no-hitter'. Been in one, boring as hell.

[66 Face]

I think its kind of funny that baseball players don't play baseball to stay in shape. At least it moves along at a snails pace though. Football stops for what seems like 5 min for every 20 seconds of play. I think that there are 12 mins of actual playing time in a game.

[Sam Fisher]

No, because Hocky's 20x better:mad:

[Jerry!]

Baseball has been losing it's appeal for a few years now. What made it somewhat interesting are the homerun records being broken, started by McGwire and Sosa a few years back. Not sure if 'roids are good for the sport, but it did bring excitement and attention to the game. Do any of you actually enjoy watching a 'no-hitter'. Been in one, boring as hell.


Yeah, it's only one of most exciting and rare things in baseball to happen. Baseball isn't losing appeal, last year it broke records for people attending games. Just because you aren't a fan of it doesn't mean everyone else is losing interest.

[The Apocalypse]

I don't think you can trust a player in baseball anymore. That's really sad.

[Poetic Chaos]

Why would I wanna watch an athlete play at 100% when I could watch him play at 120%?

[Warhammer]

I never cared, and never will. When I watch baseball, I am looking to be entertained. I couldn't care less what they are doing in their personal lives.

[EdRyder]

Honestly. I hear talk of this Mitchum report about the Roids, & I just wonder:

1. Does anyone honestly give a sh**!?

2. Does anyone even care about the skilless game of Baseball anymore anyway?

:huh:
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Not to be confused with the Robert Stack report,..which was also page after page of censored profanity... :csad:

[LegendaryCaleb]

i really hate steroids so it seems to bother me...although i dont really enjoy baseball that much cuz my rangers eat ballz....

[FaT_tONle]

Baseball is still big... in the baseball markets... its the number one sport in New York by FAR... and its the number one sport in Boston (yes even ahead of the Pats but not by much)... its still big in Chicago obviously... and a little bit in the Bay area... we all know L.A doesn't give a **** about any of their teams so I won't call Los Angeles a huge baseball market... but its still big there... and its probably ahead of the NBA right now since the Lakers stink. And its picking up steam in the smaller markets too... so I really don't understand why you people are all saying "Baseball is on the decline"... if the sport doesn't appeal to you you shouldn't be posting in this thread... its clearly the number two/three sport right now, right up there with college football.

As far as the subject... no one cares cares... I mean yeah they are probably annoyed to have believed all this ***** was clean when it obviously wasn't. I think its just amusement for the fans that despised the players that ended up being the heavy juicers (ala Bonds/Clemens) but fans don't really care THAT much that they won't watch the game anymore or reject all the records... everyone now believes this was rampant throughout the league and this era will be just separated from the other eras and people will leave it at that.

[Jerry!]

Yeah this was put in the wrong forum originally, thats why there was those responses earlier on about it being on decline. I agree, its basically how I said, it won't be enough to make everyone stop watching or going to the games. They care about the integrity of the game, but they won't let the players who cheated stop their love and passion for the game.

[Batman1939]

There are no steroids in baseball on players on the players Chuck Norris has breathed on

[Excel]

no i dont. if all the players take steroids theres no advantage

[Jerry!]

...Except not all the players take steroids. Awards get given to the wrong people, the integrity of the game is compromised, all that great crap.

[Dodger]

we all know L.A doesn't give a **** about any of their teams so I won't call Los Angeles a huge baseball market... but its still big there....

Ummm yeah, that's wrong.
Dodger baseball isn't just big here, it's everything, it's HUGE.

[FaT_tONle]

Ummm yeah, that's wrong.
Dodger baseball isn't just big here, it's everything, it's HUGE.

I'll take your word for it... I'm an East coast guy... but people who think Baseball is on the decline just aren't paying attention... or they live in Alabama/Georgia/Florida/Carolina's (Both of them) or Idaho or Oregon or something and worship their college football idols.

[Dodger]

I'll take your word for it... I'm an East coast guy... but people who think Baseball is on the decline just aren't paying attention... or they live in Alabama/Georgia/Florida/Carolina's (Both of them) or Idaho or Oregon or something and worship their college football idols.

Yeah, I agree with you on that.

[Sun_Down]

Honestly. I hear talk of this Mitchum report about the Roids, & I just wonder:

1. Does anyone honestly give a sh**!?

2. Does anyone even care about the skilless game of Baseball anymore anyway?

Baseball is still HUGE. And have you ever tried to hit an 85 mph curveball? It's about as far from "skilless" as you can get.

[Spidey-Bat]

I dont think anyone has really cared about baseball for years. I dont even think it should be considered the national passtime anymore, as you know, football is about a hundred times more popular.

You can't change a past time.

Also baseball players think too highly of themselves, calling it the "World Series" when only America (and maybe Canada) take part in the league. Also it's the most boring sport alive. All they do is run around bases. The only strategy in the game is batting line-up.

Baseball players don't call it the World Series, Major League baseball does and has for over 100 years. And considering that MLB is the highest level for baseball on Earth, it's fair to call a team that has won it World Champions. Even though all but 1 teams are in the US, the players aren't. There are players from Japan, Dominican Republic, Venezuela, Cuba, Mexico, and some other Latin American countries.

It's the most boring sport alive; golf is. You obviously have no clue as to what you're talking about if you think it it's just running bases and the only strategy is creating a line-up. I don't care for football at all but I'm not dumb enough to say "it's the most boring sport alive. All they do is throw the ball and run. There's no strategy".

Baseball is still HUGE. And have you ever tried to hit an 85 mph curveball? It's about as far from "skilless" as you can get.

So true. Baseball requires so much skill. Pitching is easily one of the most difficult things to do on the planet. Hitting is damn hard too. There are fat, lazy players who play. But few, if any, have had long term success.

[SuperFerret]

You can't change a past time.

Apparently you can. Overall I'd say football is the American pasttime as they have one game, the SuperBowl, which draws more attention than all potential seven games of the World Series.


It's the most boring sport alive; golf is.

Wrong. On two facets.

1) Golf is not, nor was it ever, alive.

2) Golf is a game, not a sport.

[Spidey-Bat]

Apparently you can. Overall I'd say football is the American pasttime as they have one game, the SuperBowl, which draws more attention than all potential seven games of the World Series.

You can't change a past time. Baseball has been and forever will be the past time. The past time is not what is currently the most popular sport in the country.


Wrong. On two facets.

1) Golf is not, nor was it ever, alive.

2) Golf is a game, not a sport.

I agree, but most people foolishly group golf into the category of sports. I would consider soccer very boring. It's basically hockey but without the fights.

[Jerry!]

And ice...skates...hockey sticks..rink...puck..and of course being one of the fastest played sportsl. Yeah other than all that, soccer and hockey are practically the same thing.

[Dodger]

2. Does anyone even care about the skilless game of Baseball anymore anyway?

Really? If it's so skill-less then how come your not on the field making A-rod type money?

Have you ever stepped into a batter box and try hitting a 90mph fastball or how about being on the pitchers mound and try throwing that ball at 90 mph with pin point accuracy? No? Thought so.

[Ghostvirus]

Really? If it's so skill-less then how come your not on the field making A-rod type money?

Have you ever stepped into a batter box and try hitting a 90mph fastball or how about being on the pitchers mound and try throwing that ball at 90 mph with pin point accuracy? No? Thought so.

I will answer all this with one simple statement. I don't play baseball, because I am afraid of needles.:o

[Spidey-Bat]

And ice...skates...hockey sticks..rink...puck..and of course being one of the fastest played sportsl. Yeah other than all that, soccer and hockey are practically the same thing.

Touche. I'm ashamed at doing something I've condemned.

[SuperFerret]

I agree, but most people foolishly group golf into the category of sports. I would consider soccer very boring. It's basically hockey but without the fights.

Have you seen a soccer game? There's more fighting there then there ever was in hockey, and hockey actually doesn't have as many fights anymore.

[NewYorkSpider]

Here's my opinion on this topic. Nobody cared about baseball after the strike in '94. Then 4 years later two guys put on one of the biggest and most exciting performances in MLB history(Sosa and McGwire) and brought the excitment back in baseball. People starting watching it again. If we were to assume steroids were the cause of this then can we say "steroids saved baseball"? It seems to me that performance-enhancing drugs has had an up-side and down-side. It saved the sport and now it has ruined it. At this point I could care less about it. I think you need to address the matter on who's guilty and take away the individual achievments that people have won and then label '95-'07 as the steroid era in baseball.

[MaskedManJRK]

I think Peter Boyle said it best on Mind of Mencia before he died:

"I'm sick of hearing about baseball players taking steroids. If they want to take them and lessen the size of their testicles, I say let them--I'll be able to watch some good sports, and I'll be able to keep my huge balls!"

[Jerry!]

Here's my opinion on this topic. Nobody cared about baseball after the strike in '94. Then 4 years later two guys put on one of the biggest and most exciting performances in MLB history(Sosa and McGwire) and brought the excitment back in baseball. People starting watching it again. If we were to assume steroids were the cause of this then can we say "steroids saved baseball"? It seems to me that performance-enhancing drugs has had an up-side and down-side. It saved the sport and now it has ruined it. At this point I could care less about it. I think you need to address the matter on who's guilty and take away the individual achievments that people have won and then label '95-'07 as the steroid era in baseball.

You really believe that the fans wouldn't have come back after the strike? You honestly believe that they needed that Sosa-McGuire circus? I think you underestimate the fans. The only fans that were affected long term by the strike were White Sox fans, because that year the White Sox had a chance to win the World Series, they had a great team and they had a real shot at finally winning it all. And then their owner, Jerry Reinsdorf, plays probably one of the biggest parts in making the strike happen and BAM its over. After that it was never the same again. Things changed forever. Attendance was never the same, it wasn't a Cubs dominated city before the strike, it was REAL bad after the strike. In the last few years it has gotten better with them finally winning in 05' but it still won't ever get to what it was before, not now. Its too late. A lot of fans will never forgive Reinsdorf.

[Ironfan72]

I love baseball, I'm a huge Reds and Bluejays fan, it does bother me thay steroids are such a big part of baseball. I don't believe you become a better hitter, the ball may go farthur, but it will not help with timing, now, it might help with pitching, getting more velocity.
Will this report change anything, no I doubt it, becuase the players were un-cooperative in the investigation, much of the evidence was hearsay and wouldn't stand up in a court of law, but the names didn't really surprises me.
I guess time will tell if this will make any difference.

[Jerry!]

It does make you a better player. Think about it, they already have the skills necessary to play in the Majors, now they are adding on to that. It speeds up recovery time, and like you said "the ball may go further" well that equals more home runs, more hits on your stats, which people go by to see how good of a hitter you are. And Gary Matthews Jr is not that good. Not half as good as his contract says he is.

[Kurosawa]

The reason people are bothered by steroids in baseball is because, unlike other sports, baseball is still pretty much the same game now as it was 100 years ago. The field is the same, the rules are more or less the same, and baseball itself has always been sold as a sport of history and tradition. Who won the NFL Championship in 1927, or for that matter in 1997? No one knows, no once cares. Football isn't about history, it's about the present and the future. But almost any baseball fan will say that the 1927 "Murderer's Row" Yankees were possibly the greatest team of all time. And that's why the steroid scandal exists in baseball; because even though Barry Bonds doesn't play the exact same game that Babe Ruth, or more accurately, that Henry Aaron played, baseball has forever sold the illusion that he does.

History and records are the backbone of baseball. In other sports, they don't matter as much, if at all.

[BlackLantern]

Steroids can cause a ripple effect regardless of the sport.....guys get bigger in the pros, therefore the college athletes think they have to get bigger.....and it
trickles down.....I dont know about you guys but I dont want to walk into my 13 yo room and see him "cycling" just to get size for jayvee football....I'm not a parent, but I wouldnt want that for my kid

[GoldenAgeHero]

i don't really care and i don't see the big deal anyways.

to me people who use them still use thier skills, its not like any guy who hasn't played baseball before can take steroids and bat 700 homeruns or whatever the record is.

[Jerry!]

I guarantee you Bonds would have never gotten to Aaron's record without steroids/HGH.

[ROOR]

I guarantee you Bonds would have never gotten to Aaron's record without steroids/HGH.

Exactly, watch some of Bonds hitting from last year he hit SOO many pop-ups that went to like the warning track. Enhancers gave him the extra power to get it over the wall. I'm not saying he couldn't hit naturally, I'm just saying he couldn't hit for power naturally, not to the extent that he has.

[Jerry!]

Oh yeah, he was always one of the best hitters in the game, like his persona or not, he is one of the greatest hitters of all time. But what he has done in what should have been the twilight of his career is just synthetic. Nobody can put up those kind of numbers. He basically stole MVP awards along the way as well, just like Giambi.

[Kurosawa]

I guarantee you Bonds would have never gotten to Aaron's record without steroids/HGH.

Yeah, I agree. The same goes for Roger Clemens. He was shot when he left Boston.

[bored]

Honestly. I hear talk of this Mitchum report about the Roids, & I just wonder:

1. Does anyone honestly give a sh**!?

2. Does anyone even care about the skilless game of Baseball anymore anyway?

If you think baseball is skill-less, you've never watched it.

And I didn't care too much until I saw Wally Joyner on the list of players in the report. Ow, my childhood :(.

[Dodger]

I guarantee you Bonds would have never gotten to Aaron's record without steroids/HGH.

Yup. I know I'm probably wrong on this but at age 30 didn't Barry Bonds only have about 300 hundred homeruns? Then he goes on a tear in his late 30's? Yeah right. He would of gone down as a great player, home run recored or not. He's just selfish.

[Spidey-Bat]

He had 311 after his age 31 season.

[Johnny Blaze]

I'm not a big fan of baseball anyway, so I don't really care a whole lot about it either way.
Still, it's not allowed in the sport, so those caught using should definitely get suspended, fined, etc.

No, because Hocky's 20x better:mad:

:up:

[Jerry!]

At least spell it right if you believe that.

[Johnny Blaze]

At least spell it right if you believe that.

Hey, so he forgot the "E". At least his heart is in the right place. :cmad: :o

[Jerry!]

Not really. But to each his own I guess. Hey, he might be Canadian for all I know.

[Johnny Blaze]

Now, now...Canadians aren't that bad...unless their dirty French Canadians. :o

[Jerry!]

That's not what I meant. I could understand his statement if he were from Canada because that basically is their national pastime.

[Johnny Blaze]

I figured you didn't mean anything by it. I'm just bored and screwing around is all. :o

[Dodger]

He had 311 after his age 31 season.

Thanks man.

[Fran]

Nah, we shouldn't care about steroids.

Shouldn't really care that the modern-age athlete is juicing themselves full of testosterone and other drugs that make them play better.

Shouldn't really care to acknowledge the effects the drugs have, or the fact that HIGH SCHOOL athletes are getting ahold of them.

[BlackLantern]

and it will be awesome when my child is cycling at 13 to get size for jayvee sports.....

[Fran]

When my wife has a baby, I'm shooting some HGH into the little Fran as soon as he comes out of the womb :heart:

[BlackLantern]

When my wife has a baby, I'm shooting some HGH into the little Fran as soon as he comes out of the womb :heart:

you can just inject the wife while shes pregnant.....why wait???

[Fran]

I don't want my wife to grow testicles :huh:

[BlackLantern]

I don't want my wife to grow testicles :huh:

what if you have a daughter??? will you at least wait till her 1st birthday before weight training and cycles??

[Fran]

Maybe. Maybe 1.5, not sure.

[Scar Predator]

Everyone should care about steroid use in MLB and all sports. It compromises the integrity of the game. Moreover, it fosters a culture of drug abuse, which will cost lives, if it's not met with swift action. Don't juice, period.

[Arkady Rossovich]

Yes,people care.They do not want anything tainted by steroids,i've heard stories that baseball collectables are not worth as much as they used to be..because people wonder if the players did it fairly or with help.The whole idea of the game is being comprimised.