Breaking Bad

[TLH]

GIVE AaRON PAUL THE EMMY NOW!!!

I agree. He just won the Emmy with that performance IMO.

Another awesome episode and things are really starting to heat up. Cannot wait for next Sunday!

[Asgard]

Walt was a total ******* to Jesse. He didnt even try to bring up the logistics of killing Gus, ala gotta kill him before he gets rid of the both of them. No, he went straight to manipulating him.

Hank was at his most awesome at the end there. That look he gave after his presentation was priceless.

[nogap87]

This show never dissapoints. I can't believe this is the same Walt that had his pants hanging out of a winnebago.

[Asgard]

http://i53.tinypic.com/2czx7aq.jpg
Hmmm...something about this screenshot reminds me of something.

Maybe it reminds you of something too?

[The Demon's Head]

Did anyone else see the tapes in Saul's safe? My bet is that he's recording his conversations with both Walt and Jesse.

[PWN3R]

http://i53.tinypic.com/2czx7aq.jpg
Hmmm...something about this screenshot reminds me of something.

Maybe it reminds you of something too?

:awesome::awesome::awesome::awesome::awesome:

[TLH]

Hmmm...something about this screenshot reminds me of something.

Maybe it reminds you of something too?

What does it remind you of?

[The Demon's Head]

These are the same numbers from Lost. :o

[WalkingDeadMike]

Sunday's episode was probably the best of the series so far.

[The Watchman]

"I'm the guy that knocks!" that line gave me chills.

[Soapy]

Anyone listen to the Breaking Bad podcast? It's pretty cool. Sound quality is **** though.

[PWN3R]

Not really a podcast person, but this and LOST's podcasts are/were so worth it. If you're using itunes, go to 'get info' and raise the file's volume up to the highest. It helps.

Lots of great info, love how they've been using a Canon 7D more often for small, fast shots. It's great to hear Vince and the editors, Dixon is awesome, discuss the process and musical selections.

[The Riddler]

Did anyone else see the tapes in Saul's safe? My bet is that he's recording his conversations with both Walt and Jesse.

doubtful, seeing that as shady as saul is, the one thing he does seem to value is attorney-client privileges.

[TheWiseGuy487]

Man, this episode was brilliant.

We know that when he told Jesse that he saw something in him, he was comparing him to himself. Damn.

Also, it's pretty obvious that Gus was the one who tipped off Hank about the brothers and gave the order to have the other nephew finished off. It was revenge for Tio Salamanca killing Gus' brother.

Is it just me, or does anyone else now sort of like Gus' character, or at least have a better understanding of his motivations, especially after those last 10 minutes?

Also, it seems like Saul has a bit of a heart after all. :woot:

[PWN3R]

I don't think it was his brother. It was heavily implied by Hector's comment, and the words spoken - somethings were lost in translation - especially when he was pleading for Gus' life; he was saying that the Gus was more than just his partner. Which makes his story even more tragic. Never would have thought I'd be sympathizing with Gus, damn, these writers are good.

[TheWiseGuy487]

I don't think it was his brother. It was heavily implied by Hector's comment, and the words spoken - somethings were lost in translation - especially when he was pleading for Gus' life;

Yeah, I didn't mean his literal "brother". I figured it was more of a term of endearment than anything else.

Never would have thought I'd be sympathizing with Gus, damn, these writers are good.

I know. Last week, I was rooting for Hank to catch Gus, and now I kind of sympathize for him a bit. This show definitely isn't biased for any particular character or takes sides. It gives you both sides of the story.

Also, did anyone notice the parallel at the very beginning between Walt putting on the medical gown at the hospital and Walt putting on the equipment at the meth lab? Even the way both of those were shot, with Walt facing the camera right in the middle of the frame, was almost identical. I'm sure that was intentional. :cwink:

[The Riddler]

what an episode...wow.

gotta be a top 5 episode in the series, imo (still think half measures is #1). breaking bad is quickly cementing itself as arguably the best tv show on air today, and possible ever.

as great as the episode was, the plot in the present time wasn't furthered too much; it looks like things will be getting underway next week. i can only imagine how big a bang this season is going to end in.

[Soapy]

Is it just me, or does anyone else now sort of like Gus' character?

I've always loved Gus. Definitely not in a "Man, what a bro. I bet he would be fun to hang out with." kind of way, but more in a Bill the Butcher-ish "That guy is such a ****ing awesome character." kind of way.

Also did anyone notice that Walt is developing the same nervous finger tapping that Gus had in that one scene?

[TLH]

Another amazing episode. This season just keeps getting better.

[Asgard]

I like the choice of Stephen Bauer for Don Eladio.

The scenes with Gus and Hector were powerful. Especially knowing what he did to Gus.

I really want to know who Gus used to be in Chile. He mustve been someone important for Eladio to spare his life.

Did anyone else think that Max bore a resemblance to Gale?

[Keyser Soze]

Another week, another brilliant episode of Breaking Bad. When it seemed like Gus was getting more screentime, and we'd be seeing a vulnerable side, I was a bit worried. Flashes of similar mystique-crushing villain origins like the Star Wars prequels and Hannibal Rising sprang to mind. But the execution of it was brilliant. After being so powerful an off-screen presence for much of this season, Giancarlo Esposito really got to flex his acting muscles in a powerhouse performance this week.

Yes, this encouraged more sympathy for him. But though he's long been a scary character, I don't think he's ever been a downright hateable character. Gus has always come across as someone who is fair and does what's right for business, ruthlessly so. And as such, it was only the impulsive actions of Walt and Jesse that put them on his hitlist, and only our emotional connection to them that really set us against Gus as viewers.

But once again, Walt to me feels like the destructive influence ruining everything for everybody. I'd say Jesse would be better off ditching Walt and pairing with the more stable, even supportive Gus than endure Walt's self-centred belittling, but Gus may very well now be a sinking ship.

How crazy was that whole scene with Hank and Walt bugging the car at Los Pollos Hermanos? I don't think a single week of this season has passed without me shouting "Oh, F**K!" at the screen at least once, but during that sequence I found myself shouting it several times. The kind of agonisingly tense set-piece Breaking Bad has mastered.

I've seen a lot of people grumbling about this season elsewhere, saying it's too slow or boring, but I think they're missing the point. After the adrenaline-rush of the abridged first season, and the meticulous plotting of the second season, Season 3 was to me a transitional season, where you could feel a tangible sense of Vince Gilligan and co expanding the scope and gravitas of the show to make it not just the best show on TV, but a serious challenger to become a contemporary to all-time greats like The Sopranos and The Wire. Thus far, I see Season 4 as the culmination of that potential. Each week, we are being treated to something with the kind of depth and intricacy not quite like anything else we've encountered on television before. I don't think we're going to get the full scope of Gilligan's achievement with Breaking Bad until the whole series has finished. But for now, I'll say Season 4 is quite possibly emerging as the best season yet.

[CrimsonDeath]

Damn, these past few episodes have been excellent, giving me some great moments of shock and awe, and today, empathy for the devil -Gus himself.
:wow: :woot:

I don't think it was his brother. It was heavily implied by Hector's comment, and the words spoken - somethings were lost in translation - especially when he was pleading for Gus' life; he was saying that the Gus was more than just his partner. Which makes his story even more tragic. Never would have thought I'd be sympathizing with Gus, damn, these writers are good.

Hermano Max, desperately realizing that death was imminent and no forgiveness granted, says, "El es mi compañero, yo lo necesito, el es mi compañero, por favor--" BLAM!
Translated, "He is my companion (partner), I need him, he is my companion, please." If it was business partner, I think he would have used the word socio, which means business partner. I took "compañero" to mean sentimental partner in the urgency of his last pleas.

Maximino Arsiniega I believe his name was, for whom the chemistry scholarship was named at UNM, and in this way providing an explanation for how Gus and Gale initially met. I love how they keep expanding the background of these characters. And Tio Salamanca keeps demonstrating what a piece of **** he truly was before bound to that chair. I almost enjoyed watching him cry as Gus kept taunting him. Oh what the hell, I enjoyed it immensely. :twisted: Such a twisted couple of scenes. Sangre por Sangre.

So who is Gus that he was not killed and was able to create his own empire and stake his territory in New Mexico? I cannot wait for next week.


Yeah, I didn't mean his literal "brother". I figured it was more of a term of endearment than anything else.



I know. Last week, I was rooting for Hank to catch Gus, and now I kind of sympathize for him a bit. This show definitely isn't biased for any particular character or takes sides. It gives you both sides of the story.

Also, did anyone notice the parallel at the very beginning between Walt putting on the medical gown at the hospital and Walt putting on the equipment at the meth lab? Even the way both of those were shot, with Walt facing the camera right in the middle of the frame, was almost identical. I'm sure that was intentional. :cwink:

And this is great commentary on those scenes, and why I love reading the comments on the episodes, as they point out stuff I missed the first time around. I guess it's their visual way of conveying the themes expressed by Walt -at the hospital, in his gown, despite what Walt believes, he is not in control of what the result of his tests will be, at the mercy of inevitable death by fate. At "work," Walt is taking charge, taking back the control of his life and flipping off destiny, and death will come as a result of his own actions, it seems.

Favorite scenes:

-Mike pulling up right next to Hank and Walt as Hank goads his brother-in-law to put that GPS underneath the car. And Hank's WTF face when Walt kneels before the car a second time coming out the restaurant.
-Gus and Walt at the register. "I...I...I didn't do it. See? I didn't do it."
"Good. Do it.....DO it."
-Gus did kick the ass of those DEA agents, in his own Gus way.
-Gus taunting Salamanca in those two visits.

I wanna what happens next now.:eek:

[Keyser Soze]

I also wanted to point out the great use of the parallel shot of Walt donning his hospital gown and Walt donning his lab suit. I've already read numerous interpretations of this sequence, but to me, it is to highlight the BS Walt is spouting. He talks about being in control of his own life, about taking control, then him going to work, observed by cameras, under Gus' thumb, shows how little control he really has. Whether it's donning a hospital gown to check for cancer or donning the lab suit to work for Gus, it's a date with the inevitable, his fate taken out of his hands, a hammer waiting to fall on him.

[The Demon's Head]

I'm pretty sure Walt lied about being in remission. I think the cancer is back, and he doesn't have much time left.

[Keyser Soze]

I'm pretty sure Walt lied about being in remission. I think the cancer is back, and he doesn't have much time left.

This is pure speculation, but I think the end of Walt will be the cancer. I think it would be the perfect final cruel twist of fate if, at the end of everything, he's eliminated Gus, neutralised the cartel, got Hank off his trail, done everything he needed to do to get himself into the position he's supposedly wanted all along, the one he's been overthinking himself out of for the past couple of seasons - being able to make a fortune cooking meth like it was a legitimate business, with no violence or unwanted interruptions. After all this time of tumultuous transition and unbearable, life-in-danger uncertainty, he's finally in the place he wants to be - on top of everything, the mighty Heisenberg. And then the cancer suddenly comes back with a vengeance and strikes him dead.

[CrimsonDeath]

Another week, another brilliant episode of Breaking Bad. When it seemed like Gus was getting more screentime, and we'd be seeing a vulnerable side, I was a bit worried. Flashes of similar mystique-crushing villain origins like the Star Wars prequels and Hannibal Rising sprang to mind. But the execution of it was brilliant. After being so powerful an off-screen presence for much of this season, Giancarlo Esposito really got to flex his acting muscles in a powerhouse performance this week.

Yes, this encouraged more sympathy for him. But though he's long been a scary character, I don't think he's ever been a downright hateable character. Gus has always come across as someone who is fair and does what's right for business, ruthlessly so. And as such, it was only the impulsive actions of Walt and Jesse that put them on his hitlist, and only our emotional connection to them that really set us against Gus as viewers.

But once again, Walt to me feels like the destructive influence ruining everything for everybody. I'd say Jesse would be better off ditching Walt and pairing with the more stable, even supportive Gus than endure Walt's self-centred belittling, but Gus may very well now be a sinking ship.

How crazy was that whole scene with Hank and Walt bugging the car at Los Pollos Hermanos? I don't think a single week of this season has passed without me shouting "Oh, F**K!" at the screen at least once, but during that sequence I found myself shouting it several times. The kind of agonisingly tense set-piece Breaking Bad has mastered.

I've seen a lot of people grumbling about this season elsewhere, saying it's too slow or boring, but I think they're missing the point. After the adrenaline-rush of the abridged first season, and the meticulous plotting of the second season, Season 3 was to me a transitional season, where you could feel a tangible sense of Vince Gilligan and co expanding the scope and gravitas of the show to make it not just the best show on TV, but a serious challenger to become a contemporary to all-time greats like The Sopranos and The Wire. Thus far, I see Season 4 as the culmination of that potential. Each week, we are being treated to something with the kind of depth and intricacy not quite like anything else we've encountered on television before. I don't think we're going to get the full scope of Gilligan's achievement with Breaking Bad until the whole series has finished. But for now, I'll say Season 4 is quite possibly emerging as the best season yet.

Great analysis and completely agree with everything.

Walt is the cancer that slowly corrupts and destroys everyone around him.
Almost all are worst off for having met him and dealt with him. I think his own family might end up paying the ultimate price eventually in the end game.

As for the people that complain about the pacing, I almost guarantee that most of them just started watching the show recently, and went through all the seasons in a very short amount of time. Had they started watching from the beginning, they would see that the pacing is almost the same, and that the show lays it out in a very deliberate, intricate manner. I see no difference from other seasons, I may be wrong. No wait, there is a difference now, my jaw hits the floor at least once per episode and I am always in the edge of my seat trying to figure out where it's going, engrossed in the intricacy and just flat out enjoying the ride. It's all been set up with depth of character to build to some great pay off. The end of the season is gonna be killer I bet.


I'm pretty sure Walt lied about being in remission. I think the cancer is back, and he doesn't have much time left.

Agreed.

[TLH]

As for the people that complain about the pacing, I almost guarantee that most of them just started watching the show recently, and went through all the seasons in a very short amount of time. Had they started watching from the beginning, they would see that the pacing is almost the same, and that the show lays it out in a very deliberate, intricate manner. I see no difference from other seasons, I may be wrong. No wait, there is a difference now, my jaw hits the floor at least once per episode and I am always in the edge of my seat trying to figure out where it's going, engrossed in the intricacy and just flat out enjoying the ride. It's all been set up with depth of character to build to some great pay off. The end of the season is gonna be killer I bet..

Very true. When you wait every week for an episode, it makes the pace of the show seem slower when, as you say, it's exactly the same. You need a bit of extra time to remember every little connection when you wait week-to-week opposed to a marathon where you watch all 13 episodes in two days.

There is no difference from the other seasons other than that this one so far has been based on psychological warfare and has grounded its tension and situations in its characters more than ever before. However while I expect the last few episodes will blow us away with twists and action, the first eight have been nothing short of amazing.

Hank's investigation could go in three or four different directions. Gus' war against the cartel is another question mark. Then there is Walt's tensions with Gus. Where does Jesse and his semi-divided loyalty fit into all of this? Mike probably has an important role to play in one of these plots.

God this show is amazing. :woot:

[CrimsonDeath]

This is pure speculation, but I think the end of Walt will be the cancer. I think it would be the perfect final cruel twist of fate... After all this time of tumultuous transition and unbearable, life-in-danger uncertainty, he's finally in the place he wants to be - on top of everything, the mighty Heisenberg. And then the cancer suddenly comes back with a vengeance and strikes him dead.

I think Walt himself, or rather the actions he takes in defiance of fate are the cancer....to Jesse, now a murderer, to Hank, almost murdered, to his family. It seems even Gale and Gus would have been fine on their own, without Walt, as far as they could be anyway.

Where would the story go and end?
Would the cancer kill Walt after he is on top of all, the reigning Heisenberg, but at what cost to him? He would be willing to sacrifice Hank, but Jesse? His family? At what point does Walt think that dying is better than living a corrupted life? If Walt's cancer does kill him, it might be after his own evil actions indirectly kill and corrupt those that he loved. Or he might die trying to protect them from his own consequences.

[TLH]

Where would the story go and end?
Would the cancer kill Walt after he is on top of all, the reigning Heisenberg, but at what cost to him? He would be willing to sacrifice Hank, but Jesse? His family? At what point does Walt think that dying is better than living a corrupted life? If Walt's cancer does kill him, it might be after his own evil actions indirectly kill and corrupt those that he loved. Or he might die trying to protect them from his own consequences.

If the series ends with Walt's death I think there has to be some degree of redemption to it. He can't be perceived as purely as the antagonist or else his death won't resonate. His character needs to stay in grey areas as to elicit conflicting emotions.

However Breaking Bad has been known to go against the grain and that's part of the reason I love it so much. The hard road for the writers to take, and the harder pill to swallow for viewers, would be for Walt to die as an undeniable villain beyond redemption. It would be a bitter end and only Jesse's story has the power to balance this bitterness with his own redemption.

[Keyser Soze]

If the series ends with Walt's death I think there has to be some degree of redemption to it. He can't be perceived as purely as the antagonist or else his death won't resonate. His character needs to stay in grey areas as to elicit conflicting emotions.

However Breaking Bad has been known to go against the grain and that's part of the reason I love it so much. The hard road for the writers to take, and the harder pill to swallow for viewers, would be for Walt to die as an undeniable villain beyond redemption. It would be a bitter end and only Jesse's story has the power to balance this bitterness with his own redemption.

I think that's where the writers are going. As my commentaries have shown, this season in particular has been the watermark for me where Walter White has gone from the character whose well-being I fiercely cared about in spite of all his flaws and wrongdoing to being someone I am continually horrified and disgusted by. The balance, for me, is that as Walt has cast us adridt, we've been able to build a stronger emotional tether to the supporting cast. Now it's less about us being aligned with Walt, and hoping these other characters don't kill or expose him, as it is about us being aligned with them, and hoping Walt's self-centred struggle for control doesn't f**k them up too much more than it already has. That ad slogan of "This season, Walt IS the danger" couldn't be more true.

[Keyser Soze]

And thanks for the kind words, CrimsonDeath. Glad you like my analysis, I'm enjoying what you have to say too. It's nice just being able to discuss this show, as for the longest time I watched it in isolation.

[The Demon's Head]

I think it's a fair bet bet that Gus is a goner, but I'm really hoping Mike sticks around for S5.

[Poeman]

This show probably has the best writers on tv...What an episode

[TLH]

This show probably has the best writers on tv...What an episode

Yet they've never been nominated for an Emmy. It's ridiculous the Emmy system allows multiple nominations for the same series in Writing. They nominate 3-4 Mad Men episodes every season for writing which is more than half the slots. If they could only nominate one episode per show, Breaking Bad would certainly have been recognized multiple times already.

[Travesty]

Hermano Max, desperately realizing that death was imminent and no forgiveness granted, says, "El es mi compañero, yo lo necesito, el es mi compañero, por favor--" BLAM!
Translated, "He is my companion (partner), I need him, he is my companion, please." If it was business partner, I think he would have used the word socio, which means business partner. I took "compañero" to mean sentimental partner in the urgency of his last pleas.

So are you saying that they were gay lovers?

[Travesty]

Also, I was on another forum, and someone brought up the fact that since Jesse got that text, that maybe his house was bugged, and is why the text canceled their meeting.

[TLH]

Also, I was on another forum, and someone brought up the fact that since Jesse got that text, that maybe his house was bugged, and is why the text canceled their meeting.

When I saw that scene I definitely thought Jesse's house was bugged. The timing of the text and what it said was too perfect unless someone was listening to the conversation, which makes sense.

[PWN3R]

So are you saying that they were gay lovers?
I mentioned it on another forum, and got bashed for saying it. :huh: All the terrible things Gus has done to the Cartel, his persistence to cut ties with them; it's all much more poignant if Gus and Max were in love.

Listening to the podcast, both Kelly Dixon and Vince Gilligan bring it up too. They say that in the script, they were a couple. However, the way it's presented in the show, it's entirely up to the audience - Gilligan's words. Damn good scene that has multiple interpretations. Either way, I ****ing love Gus now.

And yeah, Jesse's place has to be bugged. We've seen Mike bug houses before, and we know they were monitoring Jesse's hobo party, it's pretty much guaranteed, I think.

[Slick]

This is pure speculation, but I think the end of Walt will be the cancer. I think it would be the perfect final cruel twist of fate if, at the end of everything, he's eliminated Gus, neutralised the cartel, got Hank off his trail, done everything he needed to do to get himself into the position he's supposedly wanted all along, the one he's been overthinking himself out of for the past couple of seasons - being able to make a fortune cooking meth like it was a legitimate business, with no violence or unwanted interruptions. After all this time of tumultuous transition and unbearable, life-in-danger uncertainty, he's finally in the place he wants to be - on top of everything, the mighty Heisenberg. And then the cancer suddenly comes back with a vengeance and strikes him dead.

Dude I would love if the show ended like that.

[Slick]

I mentioned it on another forum, and got bashed for saying it. :huh: All the terrible things Gus has done to the Cartel, his persistence to cut ties with them; it's all much more poignant if Gus and Max were in love.

Listening to the podcast, both Kelly Dixon and Vince Gilligan bring it up too. They say that in the script, they were a couple. However, the way it's presented in the show, it's entirely up to the audience - Gilligan's words. Damn good scene that has multiple interpretations. Either way, I ****ing love Gus now.

And yeah, Jesse's place has to be bugged. We've seen Mike bug houses before, and we know they were monitoring Jesse's hobo party, it's pretty much guaranteed, I think. I always thought Gus was gay also and now it makes sense why he hates the Cartel so much because he and Max were a couple.

[Soapy]

The possibility of Gus being gay didn't even cross my mind until the last episode. I assumed as much after that flashback scene, but I also thought I could have just been reading too much into it.

[Asgard]

With the way Max was pleading for Gus' life and Gus' reaction to his murder they either had to be as close as brothers or lovers.

When I watched that scene I had a feeling they mightve been lovers and to have Vince confirm thats how the two were written in the script justifies my belief.

[CrimsonDeath]

If the series ends with Walt's death I think there has to be some degree of redemption to it. He can't be perceived as purely as the antagonist or else his death won't resonate. His character needs to stay in grey areas as to elicit conflicting emotions.


I see it going one of two ways for now... Walt loses those he loved like Gus by the actions of his enemies, and has no other option but to go out with a bang and thus regains a half measure of redemption himself by saving those that are left or avenging the ones who fall...or Walt excises himself from his own family, sends them away, and tries to take out his enemies by aligning himself with Hank. Where and how the pieces will fall, who knows yet?

But definitely there has to be a certain sense of redemption and a realization of what Walt's actions have cost him...his soul, but "there is nothing but chemistry here."


.....Walter White has gone from the character whose well-being I fiercely cared about in spite of all his flaws and wrongdoing to being someone I am continually horrified and disgusted by.... we've been able to build a stronger emotional tether to the supporting cast. Now it's less about us being aligned with Walt, and hoping these other characters don't kill or expose him, as it is about us being aligned with them, and hoping Walt's self-centred struggle for control doesn't f**k them up too much more than it already has. That ad slogan of "This season, Walt IS the danger" couldn't be more true.

Especially for Jesse, who although sooner or later would have overdosed along with Jane had Walt saved her, the cost of living for him is being a murderer of "problem dogs" and having to deal with the guilt of his own actions. And what an amazing scene that was by Aaron, a nuanced, tortured delivery, he sure deserved his Emmy right then and there.


And thanks for the kind words, CrimsonDeath. Glad you like my analysis, I'm enjoying what you have to say too. It's nice just being able to discuss this show, as for the longest time I watched it in isolation.

:up:

It's great to able to discuss, read and mingle with others here who enjoy and see in the show what I love so much about it. Their insights and comments help me expand and challenge my own views of the characters and stories and I truly enjoy that.


So are you saying that they were gay lovers?

For me it was this side of ambivalent, that yes they were, and that Salamanca's crude taunt that they "enjoy what they see" when he defiles that pool was more than just mockery of Max and Gus.

However, I then weigh in the fact that episode is called Hermanos, and they very well might have considered each other just family or the best of friends. But if the writers wanted to convey that, perhaps Max would have pleaded with the word "hermano" instead of "compañero." I think that they wanted to leave it ambiguous enough for us to discuss it. Either way, this turns Gus' criminality and empire into a deliberately crafted revenge strategy, with the idea of eventually driving out the Mexican cartel out of the meth trade. Walter facilitated this, getting involved with Tuco and eventually the Cousins and was thus both a "godsend" and a very likely eventual ruin for Gus.

[TLH]

I see it going one of two ways for now... Walt loses those he loved like Gus by the actions of his enemies, and has no other option but to go out with a bang and thus regains a half measure of redemption himself by saving those that are left or avenging the ones who fall...or Walt excises himself from his own family, sends them away, and tries to take out his enemies by aligning himself with Hank. Where and how the pieces will fall, who knows yet?

But definitely there has to be a certain sense of redemption and a realization of what Walt's actions have cost him...his soul, but "there is nothing but chemistry here."

See, this is the brilliance of the show. Walt's story arc can go in three or four different directions and each one will be equally believable and awesome.

I especially like your allusion to S1E3 with the "There is nothing but chemistry here" quote. That would be an interesting parallel to bring up if Walt discovers the loss of his soul.

[Travesty]

http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa353/Travesty70077/pics/a_560x819.jpg

[PWN3R]

99.1% pure refreshment! Now that is absolutely glorious.

[Soapy]

I... I could really go for some of that right now.

Also, I wonder if Gus has ever considered adding a little somethin' somethin' to his chicken recipe to see if drives up repeat business.

[Eklypze]

Meth-laced fried chicken........ I'm at a loss for words

[squeekness]

This was an outstanding episode. I know I like this season so much better than last season -- Skylar just seemed so whiny to me. The pacing has never bothered me at all the entire time I've watched any of the seasons. :) I have a new found appreciation for Gus that I didn't have before. :D

[TLH]

This was an outstanding episode. I know I like this season so much better than last season -- Skylar just seemed so whiny to me. The pacing has never bothered me at all the entire time I've watched any of the seasons. :) I have a new found appreciation for Gus that I didn't have before. :D

This season is great but I don't find it "so much better than last season" ... I'd say it's just as good but for different reasons.

I love the psychological warfare and chess game that Season 4 has going for it, mixed in with the intensity of it all, especially Hank's rogue investigation of Gus.

Season 3 was insane, full of crazy tension and a whole lot of awesomeness.

I'd say every season is pretty much perfect, and they all excel for different reasons, and under the strength of different themes.

[The Riddler]

wasn't walt's meth purer than 99.1%?

[TLH]

I thought it was 99.7% pure. Could be wrong.

[Call Me Darkman]

As for the people that complain about the pacing, I almost guarantee that most of them just started watching the show recently, and went through all the seasons in a very short amount of time. Had they started watching from the beginning, they would see that the pacing is almost the same, and that the show lays it out in a very deliberate, intricate manner. I see no difference from other seasons

PLUS... the show always gets more exciting towards the end. People will stop complaining once we get to the last few episodes.

Also, I was on another forum, and someone brought up the fact that since Jesse got that text, that maybe his house was bugged, and is why the text canceled their meeting.

When I saw that scene I definitely thought Jesse's house was bugged. The timing of the text and what it said was too perfect unless someone was listening to the conversation, which makes sense.

yeah, Jesse's place has to be bugged. We've seen Mike bug houses before, and we know they were monitoring Jesse's hobo party, it's pretty much guaranteed, I think.

This comes to show how careless Walt has become. He knows for a fact that his own home was bugged once. So, why isn't he suspecting Jesse's to be bugged as well.

Then again... this is another reminder that Walt and Gus have a lot in common. When Gus was first introduced to the show, I got the feeling that 20 years earlier he was just like Walt. And the flashback is a clear indicator of that. Gus made his big share of mistakes and miscalculations as well.

Having one episode showing Walt screwing up and a flashback of Gus screwing up was definitely done for a reason. I suspect this show will end with Walt taking over the business -- but at a cost.

[TLH]

Another insanely great episode.

That scene with the sniper came out of nowhere and then that wicked moment when Gus walked in the line of fire. Bad ass! Also loved the tense ending. Kind of expected Walt and Jesse to finally have it out with one another.

Did anyone else actually enjoy Skyler during her scene with the investigator? Finally she does something bad ass. She's breaking bad even more now.

Walt still has his war with gus, but now he can't rely on Jesse anymore. Jesse's got huge problems now having to advise cartel cooks; Gus has got Hank closing in, the cartel problems, and Walt to worry about. Ted can't pay what he owes and that will screw Skyler and Walt over, taking everybody down essentially. Everything is starting to come together.

[PWN3R]

So many pulse pounding moments, not to mention Gus's, "I don't give a ****" sniper walk, and that whole ending confrontation, goodness.

Skylar's ditsy act was very cool, too. Having Jesse in Mexico is something I didn't see coming, so, yeah, this show could still go anywhere.

[Soapy]

Gus' "Terminator" moment was incredibly badass. Skylar helping out Ted was great as well. But my god, that last scene. It was great seeing Jesse beat the crap out of Walt after treating him like **** for so long. But has Walt made himself another enemy?

I'm probably going to butcher this quote, but did anyone notice in the preview for the next episode Walt says to his son something to the effect of, "I want you to forget what you saw last night, that's not how I want you to remember me." I wonder if Walt finds out his cancer has returned?

[Shifty]

Everything is starting to come together.

They've got 20 more episodes to wrap everything up.

Gus' "Terminator" moment was incredibly badass. Skylar helping out Ted was great as well. But my god, that last scene. It was great seeing Jesse beat the crap out of Walt after treating him like **** for so long. But has Walt made himself another enemy?

I'm probably going to butcher this quote, but did anyone notice in the preview for the next episode Walt says to his son something to the effect of, "I want you to forget what you saw last night, that's not how I want you to remember me." I wonder if Walt finds out his cancer has returned?

There have been a few hints since the test about the cancer returning, him smoking for instance.

[The Riddler]

i don't understand why everyone thinks walt treats jesse like sht for no reason?

i mean the best to save their lives is to kill gus...it's arguably the only way to get out of it all clean. jesse has had ample opportunity to do it and he hasn't. this is life and death here; walt know it's only a matter of time before he's killed. it makes sense why he'd be pissed that jesse has been meeting with the enemy and lying about it/not poisoning him.

it's unexpected that jesse is going to mexico; breaking bad really is one of the shows that can be validly deemed unpredictable.

[Poeman]

WOW...what an episode...The "fight" was epic, something unexpected and probably was due a long time.

Also, what an awesome moment with Gus.

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COME AT ME, BRO

[Slick]

LOL. Gus going Michael Jackson on that punk.

Yeah but great episode and yes that fight was a longtime coming also I don't think Gus would give up too the Cartel that easy. He has a plan in motion.

[The Riddler]

LOL. Gus going Michael Jackson on that punk.

Yeah but great episode and yes that fight was a longtime coming also I don't think Gus would give up too the Cartel that easy. He has a plan in motion.

yeah, i agree. in the promo, mike is heard saying something like "we all go home or none of us do." i believe gus has a plan.

[Soapy]

i don't understand why everyone thinks walt treats jesse like sht for no reason?

i mean the best to save their lives is to kill gus...it's arguably the only way to get out of it all clean. jesse has had ample opportunity to do it and he hasn't. this is life and death here; walt know it's only a matter of time before he's killed. it makes sense why he'd be pissed that jesse has been meeting with the enemy and lying about it/not poisoning him.

it's unexpected that jesse is going to mexico; breaking bad really is one of the shows that can be validly deemed unpredictable.

He doesn't do it for no reason I guess. But Walt has been treating Jesse like he's totally and completely incompetent throughout the entire series. And several times he's been wrong to do so. Yes it's life and death, and Walt being harshly critical of Jesse is one thing, but here lately he's gotten very nasty and condescending about it. Even disrespectful. After everything Walt and Jesse have been through together, and now Walt is going to start being mistrustful of him? As I see it, spying on Jesse was a pretty big betrayal. Yes, I'll reiterate that he has his reasons, life and death, serious business, etc., but he also has more than enough reasons to trust him.

It's funny how many times Walt has chastised Jesse for being sloppy or for not doing things "right" or whatever, but the tables have turned with this whole Gus angle. Walt wants Jesse to kill him, (essentially repeating an act that clearly and obviously haunts him) but Jesse isn't doing it fast enough for him so Walt's getting antsy. He wants Jesse to rush a job that needs to be done delicately at precisely the right moment.

Plus it was just nice to see Walt get the slightest bit of comeuppance for his despicable behavior lately.

[The Demon's Head]

Fantastic episode. The fight was definietly one of the show's best scenes.

[CrimsonDeath]

http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa353/Travesty70077/pics/a_560x819.jpg
Quoted for the new page. Also because I wanna try that new Blue Magic Slushee. Awesome.
wasn't walt's meth purer than 99.1%?
Just rewatched "Boxcutter," and poor departed Gale, unknowingly and inevitably steering toward his own death-controlling his own fate like Walt believes we all do- elicits curiosity and pride in Gus. Gale can guarantee Gus a proud and hard earned 96% purity, but claims Walt's meth is 99% pure, a 3% wide chasm closer to perfection, and maybe just a touch beyond that. And had Gus spared no expense for the best? Poor Gale beams excitedly at the possibility of meeting the genius chemist Walt, who eventually and without remorse would mete out death as a consequence of Gale's actions in that scene.


Another insanely great episode.

That scene with the sniper came out of nowhere and then that wicked moment when Gus walked in the line of fire. Bad ass! Also loved the tense ending. Kind of expected Walt and Jesse to finally have it out with one another.

Did anyone else actually enjoy Skyler during her scene with the investigator? Finally she does something bad ass. She's breaking bad even more now.

Walt still has his war with gus, but now he can't rely on Jesse anymore. Jesse's got huge problems now having to advise cartel cooks; Gus has got Hank closing in, the cartel problems, and Walt to worry about. Ted can't pay what he owes and that will screw Skyler and Walt over, taking everybody down essentially. Everything is starting to come together.

Every single one can fall at any time now. The question is, who will kill who?

That "Terminator crap, walking right into the bullets," to put it almost like Jesse did, has to be one of my favorite Breaking Bad moments now. Again, my jaw dropped in this episode without fail.

The tension is so extreme in every direction, and Hank has really made such a strong come back that I hope some measure of happiness has found those who were unsatisfied with his depression at the beginning of the season. Gus and company pretty much crawling into hiding because of Hank leaves me :woot:. Of course though, Walt was the catalyst.

And my favorite line was Skyler going, "Don't you guys use Quicken here, because it is THE best, it's like having a calculator on your computer!" :funny: That whole scene was gold, and she really showed her brains by playing stupid there. "Right, Teddy?"

The other best line for me, "Can you walk? Then get the **** out of here and never come back." Damn.....


So many pulse pounding moments, not to mention Gus's, "I don't give a ****" sniper walk, and that whole ending confrontation, goodness.


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[TLH]

They've got 20 more episodes to wrap everything up

Huh? What does this have to do with what I said? :dry:

When I said "everything is coming together" it means the major events/conflicts of this season are starting to play out towards their climaxes, starting with the Walt/Jesse fight. Don't suppose you read the rest of my post? :o

[PWN3R]

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:awesome::awesome:

[Christopher Nolan]

another great episode. but i dont understand all the hype about the sniper walk of gus. he knew they wont kill him. they need him at the moment and that's his big advantage. that's why i think he choose jesse for this mission and started to keep an eye on him. he knew that walt wont play with him....so he started to get to jesse..

[Asgard]

Walt is such a selfish prick now. Its not like Jesse's conspiring with Gus. I mean the guy goes to bat for him and pretty much says that Gus'll have to kill him too if they decide to kill Walt.

I dont think Ive ever been as pissed at Walt as I was in that last scene. Jesse is panicking afraid for his life and pretty much begging Walt to help him out and Walt goes off on him. Im glad Jesse kicked his ass. Best part was tripping him onto that glass table.

Skylar was freaking priceless. Did not see her doing the clueless ditz act to save both their asses. That was good. I dont know about her using the drug money to help Ted though. Seems like itll lead to trouble.

Gus was pretty badass. I wonder if hes finally submitted to the cartel or if hes buying time to make his move to take them out.
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[TLH]

^Is it just me or does that never get old?

[Poeman]

Walt is such a selfish prick now. Its not like Jesse's conspiring with Gus. I mean the guy goes to bat for him and pretty much says that Gus'll have to kill him too if they decide to kill Walt.

I dont think Ive ever been as pissed at Walt as I was in that last scene. Jesse is panicking afraid for his life and pretty much begging Walt to help him out and Walt goes off on him. Im glad Jesse kicked his ass. Best part was tripping him onto that glass table.

Skylar was freaking priceless. Did not see her doing the clueless ditz act to save both their asses. That was good. I dont know about her using the drug money to help Ted though. Seems like itll lead to trouble.

Gus was pretty badass. I wonder if hes finally submitted to the cartel or if hes buying time to make his move to take them out.
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someone please make this into a avatar size for me!!! must poach :awesome:

[Asgard]

^Is it just me or does that never get old?

Nope, that gif is awesome.

[Dark Carnage]

So... Sky gives money to Ted. Ted wants more. Skylar says no. Ted threatens to tell. Walt makes Ted dead.

?

[squeekness]

Gus' "Terminator" moment was incredibly badass. Skylar helping out Ted was great as well. But my god, that last scene. It was great seeing Jesse beat the crap out of Walt after treating him like **** for so long. But has Walt made himself another enemy?

I'm probably going to butcher this quote, but did anyone notice in the preview for the next episode Walt says to his son something to the effect of, "I want you to forget what you saw last night, that's not how I want you to remember me." I wonder if Walt finds out his cancer has returned?It's my guess that Walt jr sees daddy all beat up from Jessie. I do think his scans came back positive for cancer, too.



There have been a few hints since the test about the cancer returning, him smoking for instance.

Exactly. :)

[CrimsonDeath]

^Is it just me or does that never get old?

Nevah!

Here's the other gif I loooove.....

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There have been a few hints since the test about the cancer returning, him smoking for instance.

Especially when Walt says, "Well, what does it matter? We're both dead men anyway."

So when he gets angry at Jesse for "signing a death warrant," Walt is angry at a falsely perceived betrayal. He should have seen how Jesse stood up for him against Gus at dinner and Walt should have remembered how Gale met his end. Yet after all of it I think they will keep protecting each other. Walt is becoming more reckless, more petulant, for if he succeeds in killing Gus, there is nothing to stop the Mexican Cartel coming for Heisenberg. Unless Gus somehow takes care of them first for good.

[squeekness]

Nevah!

Here's the other gif I loooove.....

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Yeah, it doesn't get old either. :)

[TLH]

In the universe of this show, the Walt/Jesse fight probably stands as one of the biggest events so far.

[The Riddler]

He doesn't do it for no reason I guess. But Walt has been treating Jesse like he's totally and completely incompetent throughout the entire series. And several times he's been wrong to do so. Yes it's life and death, and Walt being harshly critical of Jesse is one thing, but here lately he's gotten very nasty and condescending about it. Even disrespectful. After everything Walt and Jesse have been through together, and now Walt is going to start being mistrustful of him? As I see it, spying on Jesse was a pretty big betrayal. Yes, I'll reiterate that he has his reasons, life and death, serious business, etc., but he also has more than enough reasons to trust him.

walt has always been condescending to jesse, often with good reason. jesse, until recently, has always been a fairly weak-willed guy. he's not the sharpest tool. however, while he's recently been shown to much more capable than originally thought, you have to understand walt is perfectly warranted to be so mistrusting of jesse. he hasn't seen what the viewer has; he has no idea what is going on. he's been basically out of the loop the entire season. from his point of view, jesse is turning on him, and now he has proof that jesse has been seeing gus.

overall, walt has been careless, and he's been dominated throughout the entire season despite a few baseless claims that he's in control of his life and he's "the one who knocks". skyler controls his money. gus controls the meth business and arguably how long he lives. jesse is no longer by his side. he's been beaten up and put in his place by mike at least twice this season. walt has been shown to have no power at all.

because of this, it'll be so much sweeter when heisenberg reveals himself by the end of the season to be more dangerous than any of the other characters could have imagined. this show wouldn't have had a bogdan speech about being the boss and an outburst about being "the danger" for nothing.

[Dr. Manhatten]

Another clue to the cancer returning: Think back to the first season and how in the storyline, it took a full month for Walt to tell his family about the cancer. It's been a few episodes since the check up so history may be repeating itself

[squeekness]

I knew it as soon as they showed Walt talking to that other guy getting the scan. I mean why bring it up?

[TLH]

I knew it as soon as they showed Walt talking to that other guy getting the scan. I mean why bring it up?

Do you mean why did the writers bring the cancer up unless it's returned? Because if so there are definitely many layers to that scene when Walt talks to the other patient. It obviously develops his character with his spiel on taking control and there's that moment where he cuts the guy off for his phone call -- something pre-cancer, pre-Heisenberg Walt would probably never do. And yeah, I do agree that the cancer has come back.

[squeekness]

It does show how much Walt has changed, yes. He does things he would never have considered before, like being so angry that Jessie hasn't killed Gus yet. He's being so insensitive about it, I mean he seemed so oblivious to the fact that Jessie didn't take killing that other guy so well... It's not murder is this easy thing.

[CrimsonDeath]

Hmm, funny thing I noticed looking up random stuff about Breaking Bad.

Remember Krazy-8, the DEA informant drug dealer killed by Walt in the basement after days of hesitation in the first season? The actor who played him is named Maximino Arciniega. What is the name of Gus' hermano murdered by Salamanca? Maximino Arciniega. Nice easter egg.

[squeekness]

I never would have caught that, lol. :p

[Asgard]

Lol. Thats pretty cool.

[kguillou]

GREAT episode, this season is really coming together. That fight was a long time coming.Walt and Jesse have always been at each other's throats the entire series and now they finally unleash all the rage each feel for each other. On the one hand, Jesse feels underappreciated by Walt, he's done alot for him, even killed because he asked him to. Yet from Walt's perspective, if you think about it, he would've been a lot better off if he didnt have Jesse. Walt had a great relationship with Gus until Jesse threatened and coaxed Walt into letting him join Gus' operation and Walt had to force Jesse down Gus' throat. Which is kind of why they're in this mess now. Thats whats great about this show, nobody's innocent.

[TLH]

I honestly thought that Walt was going to confess the truth about Jane in a moment of rage to hurt Jesse after that fight. Would have made the ending that much more epic, but then again, with that reveal still available to the writers, they can use it down the line at an even more monumental moment.

[Asgard]

Jesse wouldve killed Walt had he confessed.

[The Demon's Head]

I'm pretty sure Mike knows the truth about Jane. I think he'll tell Jesse, and Jesse will become Walt's nemesis in S5.

[Eklypze]

Now that I think of it, I really want Jesse to find out about that. I think he would still be conflicted about what to do though considering Jesse watched Walt mercilessly kill those 2 mexicans in his defense. I dunno though, I know I wouldn't be able to forgive somebody for some **** like that. Walt really has become truly reprehensible. It's actually quite a beautiful thing to see somebody fall into total darkness the way he has

[PWN3R]

Skylar is a special type of dumb and Gus is a god.

Damn.

[Master Chief]

I thought it was really ironic that the emmys were on at the same time as this episode, coz I'm pretty sure Cranston's performance tonight would have won him another one hahah damn, that cliffhanger was so good.

[kguillou]

Hot damn, yet another amazing BB epsiode! The season started a little slow and abstract but these last 4 episodes or so have been firing on all cylinders. You do not f*** with Gus!

[dru-zod2501]

*arrives very late to the party*

I'm just starting season 2 and this show is consistently phenomenal! Though it amazes me how blind Hank and the cops are. Put any other tv cops, like Goren & Eames, hell even Castle & Beckett they would've taken Walt down long before season 3, but those are just my musings. I look forward to seeing just how far Walt will fall. Season 4 is on now, right? Is he even doing it for his family anymore? Or is it mainly for love of power?

[kguillou]

You have to keep in mind though, Walt is Hank's brother in law. In Hank's mind, he's not even remotely considering the possibility that Walt would be involved with stuff like this. I think its completely believable that Hank hasn't pieced it together.

[SuperSoldier985]

Damn, it seems likely now that they'll need Walt's help somehow to save Gus.

[Soapy]

You do not f*** with Gus!

Haha. This pretty much sums up the episode.

I've always liked Gustavo so it's been really nice getting some Gus-centric episodes.

[Eklypze]

Wow. Just wow. Oh and as if the NA meeting wasn't enough but Jesse Pinkman is my ****ing hero!!! Ya know, cept for the whole meth addiction thing lol I loved how he totally schooled that mexican chemist

[CrimsonDeath]

Skylar is a special type of dumb and Gus is a god.

Damn.


Skylar showed the same type of arrogance and hubris Walt did at that drunken dinner when he steered Hank right back into the investigation of Heisenberg's identity. He should have left it alone. Maybe not the same kind of pride Walt shows, she was doing it so that Ted would pay the IRS to get them off their tracks so they don't eventually discover just how dirty it gets at the car wash. Now though, she needs to pay for her stupidity. Ted's ingratitude pushed her into a whole new can of worms....I hope he gets thrown into a barrel.

"At least last night you were real." And that's the real Walt who admits his mistakes at his most vulnerable, and thus shows that despite being willing to commit horrible deeds, Walt still holds within a measure of remorse for what he has provoked. Not only will his actions affect those he loves, but he will pay for it as well, in his psyche, in his soul. The cancer of Walt's moral degradation has turned Jesse against him for now, his "real" son, who killed for him, who knows the real ungrateful Walt. The "real" son he has in mind more than the real one who just had a birthday and is forgotten. That's what provokes his guilt and remorse now, Jesse against him, what will happen when Hank, Skyler and Junior all find out the extent of Walt's actions? The cost to them will determine if Walt breaking bad was worth it. Only then will Walt Junior truly understand why Walt does not want his son to remember him that way. Bryan Cranston truly deserves yet another Emmy for those scenes. Walt crying from the heart shows he can still elicit sympathy.

I thought Mike was done for minute there. He still has a lot of ass to kick. And that chain and pendant he took off Don Eliado was probably to show it to old man Salamanca.
Gus dying worried me for a second too. And to think that I wanted to see Walt blast him away as soon as possible in the beginning of this season. I hope he sticks around a lot longer.
And just how deep has Jesse been immersed in Gus' confidence now? Will all this eventually come down to Jesse vs Walt, to the death of one or the other?

[The Demon's Head]

Another amazing episode. I think this might just be the show's best season.

[TLH]

AMAZING EPISODE! Season 4 is shaping up to do the impossible: top Season 3. GUS is a total bad ass and based on the way the characters are developing him, honestly I don't want him to die. Which will probably make Walt's killing him all the more powerful, as it will truly make him the antagonist.

Jesse was bad ass with the Cartel chemists and despite having limited screentime, Cranston likely wins the Emmy with his performance. Amazing as usual is Breaking Bad.

[Lord Blackbolt]

AMAZING EPISODE! Season 4 is shaping up to do the impossible: top Season 3. GUS is a total bad ass and based on the way the characters are developing him, honestly I don't want him to die. Which will probably make Walt's killing him all the more powerful, as it will truly make him the antagonist.

Jesse was bad ass with the Cartel chemists and despite having limited screentime, Cranston likely wins the Emmy with his performance. Amazing as usual is Breaking Bad.

I'm still puzzled he didn't win for last season's work. I can't go through a episode of Madman without getting sleepy. This show is aces above that.

[TLH]

I'm still puzzled he didn't win for last season's work. I can't go through a episode of Madman without getting sleepy. This show is aces above that.

Unless you are referring to Breaking Bad vs. Mad Men for Drama Series -- and I definitely agree BrBa tops Mad Men in every sense -- Cranston did win for Season 3. He has never lost the Emmy for Breaking Bad, has won all 3 years it has been on the air.

[Asgard]

Did anyone notice the smile on Gus' face when Jesse got in that cartel chemist's ass?

He was on that "He's finally become a man" ****.

Gus bows to no man. You threaten him or push him into a corner and hell kill you and everyone associated with you.

It was tough seeing Walt so broken in front of Walt Jr.

[kguillou]

I'm still puzzled he didn't win for last season's work. I can't go through a episode of Madman without getting sleepy. This show is aces above that.

I'm glad i'm not the only one who thinks that. Mad Men's not a bad show by any means but holy hell is it slow.

[The Riddler]

Did anyone notice the smile on Gus' face when Jesse got in that cartel chemist's ass?

He was on that "He's finally become a man" ****.

Gus bows to no man. You threaten him or push him into a corner and hell kill you and everyone associated with you.

It was tough seeing Walt so broken in front of Walt Jr.

yeah, gus is back on top and walt is at the lowest he's been in a long time (maybe ever?).

walt needs to put that heisenberg hat back on and get his balls back.

[The Riddler]

I'm glad i'm not the only one who thinks that. Mad Men's not a bad show by any means but holy hell is it slow.

the show is basically as good as breaking bad is...without any of the huge payoff moments. so while it's good, it isn't "holy sht!" good.

[Soapy]

Mad Men and Breaking Bad are both incredible, but Mad Men is almost entirely character driven. The drama in Mad Men is fully derived the interpersonal relationships, and not so much the plot. Plus I guess it doesn't help that there are no gun fights or other assorted badassery. It's understandable, though unfortunate, that not everyone has the attention span for something like that.

[Marvin]

finally this seasons got it's legs
and it only took 9 eps this time.

[Eklypze]

Aaron Paul was at the Charlie Sheen Roast. That's ****ing random as hell lol

[Poeman]

I dont know, but this is one of the best shows I have ever seen.

Gus, what a brilliant character. You love him, you hate him, but you always respect him.

damn, what an ending...Going to rewatch "Salud" again for just the pure awesomeness of the lines in this episode

[SpideyForPrez]

Aaron Paul was at the Charlie Sheen Roast. That's ****ing random as hell lol

I thought the same thing! Really weird seeing him at an event like that. And the way he was dressed and laughing I thought he was there in character as Jesse, lol.

[CrypticOne]

Salud was awesome. Man, I can't wait for the rest of this show to air. So dope.

Jesse is becoming a straight up bada**!

[L.A.]

Just started watching this when it finally hit Netflix! Currently my fav show until The Walking Dead starts again!

[TheBat812]

Salud was awesome. Man, I can't wait for the rest of this show to air. So dope.

Jesse is becoming a straight up bada**!
Took the words out of my mouth. This season is kicking all kinds of ass.

[TLH]

Cannot wait for tonight! Only 3 more to go...

[lime]

Probably the best episode of the entire series.

PS: And that might very will be Bryan Cranston's Emmy submission episode. It had emotional crying scene and a long storytelling scene. This might be he's Emmy episode right here.

[Poeman]

THIS IS HANDS DOWN THE BEST SHOW IN THE HISTORY OF TELEVISION

what a climax that was

[Master Chief]

THIS IS HANDS DOWN THE BEST SHOW IN THE HISTORY OF TELEVISION

what a climax that was

You took the words right out of my mouth.

[galmorzu]

Mind.

Blown.


That climax was absolutely...sickening? Gut wrenching? Mind blowing? Exhausting? As a viewer, you really felt that everything was just falling down around you, that order itself was finally crashing down.

Wow.

[DIRECTOR]

I think that was the best ending to an episode of any series that i ever witnessed

[Slick]

WOW JUST WOW!!! What an ending Walt was on some Joker **** at the end.

[TLH]

My jaw is literally on the floor. F**king amazing.

[boydston_14]

Did they kill off Ted? That's what it looked like to me.

Also, the last few minutes tonight were too intense for words. The last two episodes this season are going to be mind-blowing.

[Poeman]

You took the words right out of my mouth.

im gonna watch the ending again


By the way, I hope Vince Gilligan writes some films when he completes this show

[Poeman]

**** it...I cannot wait to buy the dvds for this show when it completely done. It just is too magnificent.

[kguillou]

GOOD.SWEET.LORD. DAMN this show is AMAZING. What an ending that was! I mean, HOLY COW everything is on a collision course. How's this season gonna end?!?

[Poeman]

WOW JUST WOW!!! What an ending Walt was on some Joker **** at the end.

SgWf_vETKMQ

[Master Chief]

Did they kill off Ted? That's what it looked like to me.

Also, the last few minutes tonight were too intense for words. The last two episodes this season are going to be mind-blowing.

Yeah, they did. :D I wanted to see him get shot but that was like, a million times better. I was laughing for a good five minutes. Plus if there was still a question after Saul pretty much confirms it.

im gonna watch the ending again


By the way, I hope Vince Gilligan writes some films when he completes this show

yeah I'm watching the encore. Such a great episode, it had a little bit of everything that makes Breaking Bad so great.

[PWN3R]

"I will kill your infant daughter." Ok, so I'm just going to say it: Best episode of the entire series, so far.

Holy ****. You hear that sound? That's not laughter, it's Cranston winning another Emmy.

[Master Chief]

I really wanna know about Gus' past after the doc made a joke about him needing protection. I can't believe there are still 2 more episodes lol

[boydston_14]

Yeah, they did. :D I wanted to see him get shot but that was like, a million times better. I was laughing for a good five minutes. Plus if there was still a question after Saul pretty much confirms it.



yeah I'm watching the encore. Such a great episode, it had a little bit of everything that makes Breaking Bad so great.

Okay. I knew it was pretty much implied, but wasn't %100 sure about that.

Also watching the encore. So much happened tonight. Wondering just how these last two episodes are going to go, not to mention the entire last season will probably be completely intense if this is anything to go on.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

AHHHHHHHH! OH MY GOD, THIS IS THE BEST SHOW, EVER! It keeps finding new places to go.

[Poeman]

Bryan Cranston...come get your 4th emmy.

[Slick]

I love Gus but after that scene in the desert I want Walt to win. We all know he will but how is anyone's guess.

[PWN3R]

Vince Gilligan, you beautiful son of a *****. How, how does this show continue to get better and better? It was already brilliant in season one, and the level of quality it's producing now, sweet god.

I'm still in awe of that ending. Awe.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

The bowl of oranges was in the background when Ted first tripped. Sly mofos.

[kguillou]

Whats great about this show is that all of its characters are so complicated, its hard to fully root anyone. After learning more about Gus' past, I actually sympathized with him and started to root for him but when he told Walt that I will kill your wife, your son and your infant daughter. I was like DAMN thats cold. But in this business, i guess you have to be to survive.

Also I was really surprised Jesse was still defending Walt to Gus after their falling out a few weeks ago, you'd think he could care less if Walt dies or not.

[TLH]

Honestly there are no words to describe that episode other than it was f**king awesome. How do the writers keep topping themselves?

The last two episodes are going to be crazy.

I also found Ted's death/fall absolutely hilarious and perfect. Love the foreshadow they had with him and the rug earlier in the episode.

[boydston_14]

By the way, fairly certain that Walt's coughing fits mean that the cancer has come back. I know people have been theorizing about it for a while, but this episode outright confirmed it for me.

[RetroNaz]

I really have no words. None at all.

This show has now crossed a new barrier that only the Shield has ever been able to do for me in terms of "can it get any worse".

This show, the actors, and creative deserve every single award imaginable.

[hellblazer103]

that ending was seriously mindblowing.

it looks like walt's finally snapped.

that cancer isn't just killing him physically, it's killing away every aspect of him that once made him a good, decent man inside. and it's spreading badly.

i love this show.

i also loved that foreshadowing shot of walt on the ground at the end .it looked like he's trapped inside of a box or in a coffin or something.

[Soapy]

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Christ. That last ten minutes or so is the most intense **** I've ever seen! From the time whatshisname showed up with the cattle prod until the very last shot, my heart was beating a mile a minute. Only when it was finally over did I realize that one of my hands was trembling while the other was gripping the remote so tightly I could hear it creaking. The end, when Skylar was talking to Walt and then answering Marie's call with Walt cackling in the background was just horrifying on several different levels. And we still have two more episodes!

Best episode. Best series. Nothing comes close.

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[hellblazer103]

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Christ. That last ten minutes or so is the most intense **** I've ever seen! From the time whatshisname showed up with the cattle prod until the very last shot, my heart was beating a mile a minute. Only when it was finally over did I realize that one of my hands was trembling while the other was gripping the remote so tightly I could hear it creaking. The end, when Skylar was talking to Walt and then answering Marie's call with Walt cackling in the background was just horrifying on several different levels. And we still have two more episodes!

Best episode. Best series. Nothing comes close.

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^ what he said.

[The Riddler]

i'm so glad i'm not the only one who felt like that during the last minutes of the episode.

that meeting with gus, the end game with saul, the panic and acceptance of his situation. death threats for hank. my heart was pounding, i was speechless.

this is it. it felt sad, angry, excited...this episode is likely in the top 3 episodes for the series, maybe the best...i'm waiting until the last two episodes to decide.

walt is a broken man. i never disliked him, but i could see where people were starting to. i just felt so bad for him by the end of this episode. to say he's got his back to a wall is an understatement. just when i started to like gus, i remembered who i was rooting for again; his threat to walt only makes me want to see him fall.

looks heisenberg is finally coming out to play.

oh yeah. i'm waiting for after this series to be over to say it, but i might as well say what a lot of us may be thinking: best series...ever?

[The Riddler]

just watched some of the episode again, and i agree with everyone. cranston has next year's emmy. just give it to him now so we don't have to see the other poor saps have to pretend they think they have a shot.

[Soapy]

oh yeah. i'm waiting for after this series to be over to say it, but i might as well say what a lot of us may be thinking: best series...ever?

"Ever" is a long time, but unless they do something incredibly stupid in the next 18 episodes, Breaking Bad certainly deserves it's place among the pantheon of great television shows.

WOW JUST WOW!!! What an ending Walt was on some Joker **** at the end.

Haha, I thought the same thing. I was legit freaked out by Walt's maniacal laughter at the end.

[Soapy]

just watched some of the episode again, and i agree with everyone. cranston has next year's emmy. just give it to him now so we don't have to see the other poor saps have to pretend they think they have a shot.

Heh. "Okay actors, we normally don't do this, but Cranston's kind of got this one in the bag, so if you guys want to slack off this year, that would be fine with us."

[theMan-Bat]

Mind.

Blown.


That climax was absolutely...sickening? Gut wrenching? Mind blowing? Exhausting? As a viewer, you really felt that everything was just falling down around you, that order itself was finally crashing down.

Wow.

Exactly. Intense. Disturbing. Adrenaline rushing. Gripping. Damn!

[Heisenberg]

Vince Gilligan, you beautiful son of a *****. How, how does this show continue to get better and better? It was already brilliant in season one, and the level of quality it's producing now, sweet god.

I'm still in awe of that ending. Awe.
Pretty much my sentiments exactly. The run this show has been on for the past four weeks, the quality has been at the very highest level consistently, providing some of the best moments of the show. The final 15 minutes of this episode was perfect, hoping to see that hat appear in the near future :woot:

[The Demon's Head]

I think S4 just topped S3. :o

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Bryan Cranston said in an interview once not to expect redemption. 'Breaking Bad''s saga will follow exactly what the title implies; A character who completely transitions from a (moderately) decent person in the beginning to a terrible person by series' end.

[CrimsonDeath]

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo25/DarthCrimsonDeath/6SlaD.gif


:funny: So many, many uses for that....

[Dark Carnage]

This show has now crossed a new barrier that only the Shield has ever been able to do for me in terms of "can it get any worse".
:up:

I was thinking at the end, with the coughing he had done in the episode, the laughing was going to turn into him coughing up a little blood. Which he'll wipe away before Skylar sees.

[Poeman]

CrimsonDeath...That is a awesome gif, but you need to put it in spoilers because alot of people probably did not see the episode yet

[Dr. Manhatten]

One day later and I still get chills thinking about that ending

[Marvin]

Wow, these past couple of eps have really turned me around on this season. I wonder if next season they'll wait till the very last ep to turn it around as per the trend.

Great ep. I think like gus these big drug player/protagonists start off quint and by the end turn ruthless. Walt will be the next gus before all is said and done. Especially now that that cartel business has been handled.

I especially loved what Jessie said about when he came for help. These characters always make brash emotion based decisions when asked for something and then regret it later. In jessie's case, as right as he was he's going to be coming back for Walts help pretty soon and it's going to be right back to square one. I'm happy he at least has the decency to keep gus back.

I also loved the Skylar situation immensely. She's turning into Walt and she's "doing it for her family."

Lastly all the attention hanks getting for going after gus is going to push him even closer.

[Soapy]

Does anyone else think it's possible that Hank has already put two and two together and knows about Walt, or at least suspects he's involved with Gus? And maybe these little excursions the two have been going on is Hank poking Walt to see how he reacts? Just something I've been thinking about.

[Soapy]

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo25/DarthCrimsonDeath/6SlaD.gif


:funny: So many, many uses for that....

The official description of the episode: Walt takes drastic action to protect his secret and Gus; Skyler's efforts to solve Ted's financial problems hit a wall.

:funny:

[TheBat812]

Pretty amazing that in just a few years time, Walt's mid-life crisis has ruined every extension of his family's life. This show is amazing.

[Marvin]

Does anyone else think it's possible that Hank has already put two and two together and knows about Walt, or at least suspects he's involved with Gus? And maybe these little excursions the two have been going on is Hank poking Walt to see how he reacts? Just something I've been thinking about.

I doubt it, but the thing about hank is that he's realllllly good at his job.

[Call Me Darkman]

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That's great and all, but the Emmy's need to stop ridin' Mad Men and give Breaking Bad the award for Outstanding Drama, Writing, and Direction. After last night's episode, this show deserves to sweep the drama category.

[Poeman]

http://i.imgur.com/PgwMB.gif

The Horror, the horror!!

[Christopher Nolan]

1. the wire
2. the sopranos
3. breaking bad

[Poeman]

1. the wire
2. the sopranos
3. breaking bad

1) Breaking Bad (On pace to surpass both of the medicore last seasons of each of those other shows)

It's the truth.

I love The Wire, but that 5th season was weak and certain episodes did drag

[Christopher Nolan]

the wire is probably the best show ever but breaking bad is so damn good it's almost too good to be true..never thought a tv show could blow me away like the wire did..

[The Demon's Head]

1) Breaking Bad

2) Boardwalk Empire

3) Justified

[Marvin]

3rd season of BB was weak
and the 4th just found it's legs(this was actually somewhat brought up during the "slash film cast" with tasha robinson.

[Travesty]

It was cool to see Bill Burr have another roll in the series.

[Poeman]

3rd season of BB was weak
and the 4th just found it's legs(this was actually somewhat brought up during the "slash film cast" with tasha robinson.

Yeah the 3rd season which had Bryan Cranston and the dude who plays Jesse Pinkman win Best actors at the emmys is a weak season.

Are you sure you are watching the same show we are?

Intro to Gus/Gail/Mike...This is a weak season? :doh:

[kguillou]

Yeah the 3rd season which had Bryan Cranston and the dude who plays Jesse Pinkman win Best actors at the emmys is a weak season.

Are you sure you are watching the same show we are?

Intro to Gus/Gail/Mike...This is a weak season? :doh:

Yeah uh...maybe in relativity to tje rest of the show s3 was a "weak"season. But it was damn good season of tv in general. That episode where hank fought off those two mexican gangsters was INTENSE. I was sure he was done for.

[Poeman]

I think Hector will have a say in all this by the end of the series.

[The Demon's Head]

S3 and S4 are the show's best seasons.

[PWN3R]

http://i.imgur.com/PgwMB.gif

The Horror, the horror!!

Skylar sees the Thread Manager approaching!

[DBryan]

I love Gus but after that scene in the desert I want Walt to win. We all know he will but how is anyone's guess.

That's what I'm wondering too.

Walt has no power, at this point.

It's strange how in this season we've seen Walt go from "I AM the danger!", to being just completely checkmated by circumstances outside of his control. HOW can he possibly come back from it?

This episode was amazing, by the way.

Best television I've ever seen.

[hellblazer103]

That's what I'm wondering too.

Walt has no power, at this point.

It's strange how in this season we've seen Walt go from "I AM the danger!", to being just completely checkmated by circumstances outside of his control. HOW can he possibly come back from it?

This episode was amazing, by the way.

Best television I've ever seen.
walt's been in denial about the situation he's really in this entire season.

he goes on and says how much hes " in control " but really he's been pushed around and even beaten the **** out of by everyone around him. skylar , mike , tyrus , jesse, gus, etc.

but obviously all of this is pushing walt over the edge and by the end of this season he'll just explode and go after EVERYONE.


http://content.ytmnd.com/content/3/9/b/39bbd3489dba737e23fa80fcb6d5f1ce.gif

and it wont be pretty.

cant wait to see it :woot:

[DBryan]

What's cool is there's a certain inevitability about where this is heading ultimately, and yet at the same time every episode is unpredictable.

Is there any doubt that by the end, Walt will totally embrace the 'Heisenburg' aspect of his personality, and will be in Gus' position of power?

[Soapy]

I don't know, I kind of figure that by bullet or by cancer Walt will be dead by the end.

[Call Me Darkman]

all of this is pushing walt over the edge and by the end of this season he'll just explode and go after EVERYONE.

Walt is a genius. We've seen him blow up Tuco's "office." We've seen him create that untraceable poison. In addition to other stuff. Walt will win by using SCIENCE.

[Asgard]

Walt finally snapped. That last scene where he sobs in utter despair and transitions to hysterical laughter while Skylar watches in horror was was uncomfortable tosee. That was such an amazing scene.

I couldnt believe how smug Walt was in the desert. This guy basically had his life spared and he responds by insulting Gus. Crazy.

I cant wait for next week.


I

[Call Me Darkman]

I find it amusing that Walt got into this mess because of Jesse... and yet, it's Jesse who can sleep at night.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

I'm sure Walt will either die or become the new Gus.

[The Riddler]

I'm sure Walt will either die or become the new Gus.

walt WILL die. just so obviously not yet.

walt is about to go berserk. i think being this cornered is going to allow him a sense of clarity. we've seen that when walt is in trouble, it's also when he's most dangerous. tuco and gale can attest to this. we've seen from the preview for next week that he's making some kind of bomb/explosion. as i said earlier, you don't have promos and dialogue stating walt is "the danger" without some major comeuppance for all the sht he's endured this season.

[kguillou]

I find it amusing that Walt got into this mess because of Jesse... and yet, it's Jesse who can sleep at night.

Thats VERY true dude. Walt and Gus had a great relationship until Jesse came along. Jesse threatened Walt to include him in Gus' operation and Gus did NOT want him involved in his affairs. Now ironically, Gus and Jesse are tight and him and Walt are bitter enemies.

[hellblazer103]

Walt is a genius. We've seen him blow up Tuco's "office." We've seen him create that untraceable poison. In addition to other stuff. Walt will win by using SCIENCE.but also,
everytime walt was placed in a risky situation, where he HAD to respond with violence , that's when " heisenberg " comes out to take care of business. once with the incident with tuco that you mentioned, then again with jesse and those dealers that killed the child . when heisenberg comes out this season, hell is gonna break lose. i guarantee you that. and im sure once he's out he'll be here to stay this time.

[Dark Carnage]

It was cool to see Bill Burr have another roll in the series.
:up:

Going to see him perform in London on October 16th. I actually bought the BS he was talking in his podcast about being on Glee, when he revealed it was Breaking Bad...
I was like :eek:
but then I was like :awesome:

If he leaves room for audience Q&A, I might congratulate him on Breaking Bad.


I couldnt believe how smug Walt was in the desert. This guy basically had his life spared and he responds by insulting Gus. Crazy.
I keep forgeting how smart Walt is. When he said "...or you'll do what?" I wondered what the hell he thought he was doing. And Gus' reaction made me really concerned. But then Walt just casually explains he's figured out the situation and they aren't going to kill him. Pretty ballsy. Although, that didn't last long.

Right now, all I'm thinking is...

Heisenberg. :word:

[kguillou]

Man with the way this season is going...what the hell is season 5 going to be about? It already seems like the end is near.

[Travesty]

:up:

Going to see him perform in London on October 16th. I actually bought the BS he was talking in his podcast about being on Glee, when he revealed it was Breaking Bad...
I was like :eek:
but then I was like :awesome:

If he leaves room for audience Q&A, I might congratulate him on Breaking Bad.
He is soooo good live. I've seen him about 4 times now, and I can't wait for him to come back. You'll have a lot of fun, I'm sure. He's definitely my top 3 favorite comedians right now.

[Soapy]

Man with the way this season is going...what the hell is season 5 going to be about? It already seems like the end is near.

I've been wondering this as well. If Gus is gone, and the cartel in tatters... what's left? Hank and DEA? That doesn't seem likely. I've got nothing.

[Call Me Darkman]

Man with the way this season is going...what the hell is season 5 going to be about? It already seems like the end is near.

I've been wondering this as well. If Gus is gone, and the cartel in tatters... what's left? Hank and DEA? That doesn't seem likely. I've got nothing.

Let's not underestimate Hank and the DEA. Walt has been using them as suckers, so once the cat is out of the bag, that will get interesting.

[Soapy]

I don't know... I really can't see Hank and Walt turning on each other unless something major happens like one of them ends up being responsible for the death one of the other's family members, like if Walt somehow gets Marie killed or something. As far as the DEA goes, if you're the head of a criminal organization you don't go to war with the government, you hide from them, and I'm not sure that would make very compelling television. However, at this point, I wouldn't put anything past Vince Gilligan and co.

But that's all total speculation.

Something else, in the description of the season finale, it says that Walt gets help from a surprising ally or something like that. I wonder who that might be?

[Marvin]

Yeah the 3rd season which had Bryan Cranston and the dude who plays Jesse Pinkman win Best actors at the emmys is a weak season.

Are you sure you are watching the same show we are?

Intro to Gus/Gail/Mike...This is a weak season? :doh:

Never said anything about the acting:whatever:
And I doubt you speak for the board, just like I never claimed too. That was my opinion. I found the second season to be a very well thought out work with a lot of fine direction (including Cranston). All that pool side atmosphere and the ending explosion, Skylar the twins and the vengence themes. I just found it more engaging from the jump whereas the third had pacing issues, only to start moving at the end.

I may be wrong but I thought Gus and Mike appeared before the third season.

I can't imagine anyone finding the second season the worst, and the first is out of the question so....

[Soapy]

First season is easily the weakest.

[TheWiseGuy487]

First season is easily the weakest.

But it's still damn good. :woot:

[Soapy]

I agree! I almost said "worst", but I changed it because I didn't want to imply that I thought it was bad.

[TheBat812]

The first season feels the weakest because they haven't built up the stakes in the background of each scene yet like we feel in the newer seasons. I think they're all pretty evenly amazing.

I hadn't really thought of it before you guys brought it up, but you're right. It's Heisenberg time. I do wonder what that means for Walt's family though.

[The Riddler]

I don't know... I really can't see Hank and Walt turning on each other unless something major happens like one of them ends up being responsible for the death one of the other's family members, like if Walt somehow gets Marie killed or something. As far as the DEA goes, if you're the head of a criminal organization you don't go to war with the government, you hide from them, and I'm not sure that would make very compelling television. However, at this point, I wouldn't put anything past Vince Gilligan and co.

But that's all total speculation.

Something else, in the description of the season finale, it says that Walt gets help from a surprising ally or something like that. I wonder who that might be?

my guess is mike.

[Eklypze]

I was watching The Adventure of Buckaroo Banzai the other day and noticed that Mike was in it. He was barely recognizable at all

[SuperSoldier985]

I was on pins and needles at the scene of Walt and Hank driving to the laundry...That was pretty intense.

[squeekness]

but also,
everytime walt was placed in a risky situation, where he HAD to respond with violence , that's when " heisenberg " comes out to take care of business. once with the incident with tuco that you mentioned, then again with jesse and those dealers that killed the child . when heisenberg comes out this season, hell is gonna break lose. i guarantee you that. and im sure once he's out he'll be here to stay this time.I totally see this as well. I can't wait to see what Walt is going to do. Either that or he will implode and go on some sort of killing spree.

First season is easily the weakest.For me it was the third, mainly because Skylar just seemed so whiney. :(

[Call Me Darkman]

Skylar has always been a pretty annoying character.

[SuperSoldier985]

Well, life is filled with annoying people... :p

[Soapy]

http://i.imgur.com/KAiTE.jpg

[Poeman]

^^ hilarious

[TLH]

Still reeling from that last episode...Sunday cannot come soon enough!!!

[Shifty]

The first season feels the weakest because they haven't built up the stakes in the background of each scene yet like we feel in the newer seasons. I think they're all pretty evenly amazing.


I wouldn't say weak, it just had less episodes and was introducing everyone.

Walt killing that man in his basement is still one of my favourite moments along with the bathtub scene.

[hellblazer103]

I wouldn't say weak, it just had less episodes and was introducing everyone.

Walt killing that man in his basement is still one of my favourite moments along with the bathtub scene.
lets not forget the tuco encounter.

" this.... is not meth. " (BOOOOOOOM)

classic :woot:

[kguillou]

Whats everyone talking about? Season 1 was GREAT. In fact, it was way more action packed than seasons 2-4. Granted it had less episodes so it had no room to tread water, but the momentum in season 1 was pretty brisk. Seasons 2-4 seemed to take their time with things and become more abstract before things came to a head. Not that there's anything wrong with that as evidenced with last episode, slow burning can be a great great thing.

[TLH]

It's hard to rank the seasons of Breaking Bad as the continuity in the show is staggering. It's really just one long season when you think about it, one large story.

[kguillou]

Speaking of season 1, whatever happened to Gretchen (Walt's old gf) and her husband? It felt like they were going somewhere with that storyline but then decided to suddenly drop it.

[Marvin]

The tuco exploits were really something.

[Dark Carnage]

As soon as this season is over, I'm starting all over again. I feel like so many important details have drifted from my memory.

Plus, I want to see Walt's transition all over again.

Heisenberg right ahead!

[TLH]

Speaking of season 1, whatever happened to Gretchen (Walt's old gf) and her husband? It felt like they were going somewhere with that storyline but then decided to suddenly drop it.

They drop nothing in Breaking Bad. That storyline is resolved. They served as Walt's cover-up story for where the cancer treatment money was coming from; his lie was eventually revealed at the end of Season 2. We also see Walt express his bitterness over Elliot/Gretchen making millions off his research, and pretty much cuts them off with a bitter f**k you at the end.

[Boom]

Any chance the ending is on YouTube?

[hellblazer103]

Any chance the ending is on YouTube?
it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWfK5JyD2bA

[Boom]

Yep. People are going to die.

It'd be unbelievably awesome if Walt pulls a "Heisenberg" and kills Gus using one of his little chemistry tricks.

Perhaps concentrated Potassium in the mouth :awesome:?

[TheBat812]

ha, I'm glad we're all on the same page. This show's pretty amazing in the believability of its world and its consistency at surprising us still.

[Golgo-13]

Man, this show has been nail biting the last few eps. Cranston was awesome in that last scene, laughing un-controllably!

Gus has got to be one of the most intelligent, coolest played bad guys ever. Has the actor that plays him won an award for this?

Plus, Ted's death was lol!

[theMan-Bat]

Next episode: "End Times" - Hank pushes Gomez to pursue one last lead, while Walt struggles to protect his family. Jesse gets alarming news and rushes to meet with Mr. White.
http://www.amctv.com/shows/breaking-bad/episodes/season-4/end-times
Pl_en8dhbC0
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Last episode of the 4th season: "Face Off" - Walt and Jesse team up on Gus. Walt finds an unexpected ally with Saul's help.
http://movies.amctv.com/schedule-mobile/?day=39&resize=l&tz=MT

[CrypticOne]

Next episode: "End Times" - Hank pushes Gomez to pursue one last lead, while Walt struggles to protect his family. Jesse gets alarming news and rushes to meet with Mr. White.
http://www.amctv.com/shows/breaking-bad/episodes/season-4/end-times
Pl_en8dhbC0
zUN_Cp-6hvU

Last episode of the 4th season: "Face Off" - Walt and Jesse team up on Gus. Walt finds an unexpected ally with Saul's help.
http://movies.amctv.com/schedule-mobile/?day=39&resize=l&tz=MT


Man, I can't wait! Thanks for posting this info.

[L.A.]

Damn stayed late at night to finish the last 3 episodes of season 2!!! Its sooo good!

[RetroNaz]

I wonder if Walt will seek help from Wheelchair Bell? Surely he would be a good "unlikely" ally now that Gus has killed off every single one of his family members.

Then again, Gus and WB probably aren't on the best of terms either, but that's why it would be "unlikely".

[DBryan]

The wheelchair bell guy seems to be still 'open' as a piece on the board but I don't see how he can be of use to anybody, the power he had was in his connections and now that's gone.

[squeekness]

lets not forget the tuco encounter.

" this.... is not meth. " (BOOOOOOOM)

classic :woot:Still my favorite scene! :D

[Asgard]

It seemed like Walt was building some sort of device in the preview for next Sunday's ep. Maybe something for a bomb?

[TLH]

It seemed like Walt was building some sort of device in the preview for next Sunday's ep. Maybe something for a bomb?

Yeah I was trying to figure that out too. Would love to see him use science to solve a problem like he did in earlier seasons.

[squeekness]

Same here, seems like they have gotten away from that when it was one of the best things about the show. :)

[PWN3R]

It seemed like Walt was building some sort of device in the preview for next Sunday's ep. Maybe something for a bomb?

Yeah I was trying to figure that out too. Would love to see him use science to solve a problem like he did in earlier seasons.

I think we're most definitely getting another, "This is not meth" moment. I'm so ready to see that sexy black porkpie hat again.

[Soapy]

Why isn't it Sunday yet?! :cmad:

[The Riddler]

Same here, seems like they have gotten away from that when it was one of the best things about the show. :)

i think the writers were smart to do so. too many scenes like that, and they lose their luster.

i like that they've broken walt down, and i hope it's finally time for some heisenberg bad assery.

[TLH]

Am I the only one still thinking about how "Crawl Space" ended? Amazing, amazing, amazing.

[Soapy]

Nah. It really stuck with me as well.

[Asgard]

No way. That scene will be remembered forever.

That scream of helplessness, the sobbing that turns into insane cackling and Skylar's look of horror.

[TLH]

Dammit, this Cranston interview has got me ready to EXPLODE. He's talking about the S4 finale...

“I can tell you, in the opening there is a shocking reveal. But at the very end of the season, there are a couple things that happen that are really surprises. One is the big surprise. Then, ‘Woooow!’ A big wow moment,” Cranston said in an interview with The Desert Sun. “Then you calm down and there’s a bit of a tag to resolve a couple issues, and then, just before it goes black and has Vince Gilligan’s name, there’s one more little thing. No words, just a visual that the audience will see and it will have the reaction, ‘Nooo! Oh, my God!!! No!’ It will rock you. Then it goes black and that’s the end of the season. And here I am, four years into it playing the lead character and I didn’t see it coming. It caught me as much by surprise as anyone else. It’s so cool."

[Boom]

Dammit, this Cranston interview has got me ready to EXPLODE. He's talking about the S4 finale...

“I can tell you, in the opening there is a shocking reveal. But at the very end of the season, there are a couple things that happen that are really surprises. One is the big surprise. Then, ‘Woooow!’ A big wow moment,” Cranston said in an interview with The Desert Sun. “Then you calm down and there’s a bit of a tag to resolve a couple issues, and then, just before it goes black and has Vince Gilligan’s name, there’s one more little thing. No words, just a visual that the audience will see and it will have the reaction, ‘Nooo! Oh, my God!!! No!’ It will rock you. Then it goes black and that’s the end of the season. And here I am, four years into it playing the lead character and I didn’t see it coming. It caught me as much by surprise as anyone else. It’s so cool."
http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lolh2z0WCr1qaq6seo1_500.gif

[Asgard]

This guy from another forum I frequent watched the last two eps of the season. If what he says is true and I dont have any reason not to believe it since the guy isnt a liar/douche, then HOLY ****! Brian is right when he says this will be rock you. No one will see it coming. It wont be foreshadowed in this Sunday's ep or during the finale. Its going to be the most WTF NO! moment in the history of this show and maybe recent television at least in my opinion. I mean just reading the spoiler pissed me off. I dont know just how angry Ill get watching the actual scene. God damn. Congrats Vince Gilligan. You officially have the biggest balls of anyone on television.
http://i55.tinypic.com/9fr2hk.jpg

[The Riddler]

This guy from another forum I frequent watched the last two eps of the season. If what he says is true and I dont have any reason not to believe it since the guy isnt a liar/douche, then HOLY ****! Brian is right when he says this will be rock you. No one will see it coming. It wont be foreshadowed in this Sunday's ep or during the finale. Its going to be the most WTF NO! moment in the history of this show and maybe recent television at least in my opinion. I mean just reading the spoiler pissed me off. I dont know just how angry Ill get watching the actual scene. God damn. Congrats Vince Gilligan. You officially have the biggest balls of anyone on television.
http://i55.tinypic.com/9fr2hk.jpg
is that spoiler really spoilerish?

you don't know how hard i'm struggling with myself to not spoil the ending...

[Shifty]

This guy from another forum I frequent watched the last two eps of the season. If what he says is true and I dont have any reason not to believe it since the guy isnt a liar/douche, then HOLY ****! Brian is right when he says this will be rock you. No one will see it coming. It wont be foreshadowed in this Sunday's ep or during the finale. Its going to be the most WTF NO! moment in the history of this show and maybe recent television at least in my opinion. I mean just reading the spoiler pissed me off. I dont know just how angry Ill get watching the actual scene. God damn. Congrats Vince Gilligan. You officially have the biggest balls of anyone on television.
http://i55.tinypic.com/9fr2hk.jpg

I couldn't resist.

Love it!

[Asgard]

is that spoiler really spoilerish?

you don't know how hard i'm struggling with myself to not spoil the ending...
Ill say this, if you read the spoiler you wont be disappointed. I doubt itll screw with your viewing experience of the finale. It is a hell of a shocker.

[Soapy]

This guy from another forum I frequent watched the last two eps of the season. If what he says is true and I dont have any reason not to believe it since the guy isnt a liar/douche, then HOLY ****! Brian is right when he says this will be rock you. No one will see it coming. It wont be foreshadowed in this Sunday's ep or during the finale. Its going to be the most WTF NO! moment in the history of this show and maybe recent television at least in my opinion. I mean just reading the spoiler pissed me off. I dont know just how angry Ill get watching the actual scene. God damn. Congrats Vince Gilligan. You officially have the biggest balls of anyone on television.
http://i55.tinypic.com/9fr2hk.jpg

http://cdn.hotstockmarket.com/5/53/532dd66d_mind-blown.jpeg

[The Riddler]

Ill say this, if you read the spoiler you wont be disappointed. I doubt itll screw with your viewing experience of the finale. It is a hell of a shocker.

so glad i gave in.

wow, it's going to be a crazy finale! :wow:

[Eklypze]

Where is the spoiler? All I see is Jon Hamm covered in jizz

[TLH]

This guy from another forum I frequent watched the last two eps of the season. If what he says is true and I dont have any reason not to believe it since the guy isnt a liar/douche, then HOLY ****! Brian is right when he says this will be rock you. No one will see it coming. It wont be foreshadowed in this Sunday's ep or during the finale. Its going to be the most WTF NO! moment in the history of this show and maybe recent television at least in my opinion. I mean just reading the spoiler pissed me off. I dont know just how angry Ill get watching the actual scene. God damn. Congrats Vince Gilligan. You officially have the biggest balls of anyone on television.

Is this all a joke given that your spoiler was a joke, or do I really have to look forward to what you say above???

[PWN3R]

Will the internet and sarcasm ever become friends?

[Shawn Wayne]

My theory is that Jesse is Walt's son....somehow

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

This isn't Batman Beyond.

[RetroNaz]

Jesse is Walt's son? Very unlikely!

[TLH]

My theory is that Jesse is Walt's son....somehow

That would be wrong for so many reasons: (1) it's pointless; (2) is makes no sense; (3) it'd be jumping the shark; (4) I don't need a fourth reason.:word:

[Call Me Darkman]

Another kid dies because of Gus. Jesse mad now.

[TLH]

Wow, extremely intense episode despite not a ton happening. Looks like all the final dominoes will fall next Sunday. CAN'T WAIT.

That scene with Jesse and Walt at gunpoint, AMAZING acting.

Anyone think Walt actually DID poison the kid? Then convinced Jesse it was Gus. That would be Walt getting ahead of Gus.

[RetroNaz]

Can anyone post a recap of the episode once it's aired for me please? (spoiler tags of course)