The Official Choose A Director Thread

[Lighthouse]

Ah, I remember the days when I would get my comic book news from Wizard. Now a days though, they are usually three months behind. By Christmas could just be an estimate for them.

I used to love Wizard, but the quality started to deteriorate pretty quickly, especially with online sources like Newsarama and CCR usually getting stories before them. Anyone still read Wizard?

[MattBearPig]

I read it when I poop.

[Andy C.]

I like Snyder just fine, but I wouldn't want to see him on a Superman film. His visual direction is very gimmicky, something that would wear off extremely fast if he were doing a long movie or a series (see: Wachowski Bros).

More to the point, the films he's done so far all have a very negative atmosphere and outlook, something that just doesn't work for Superman. Dawn of the Dead and Slither were both gratuitous Grindhouse-style splatter movies, 300 was a chest-pounding bloodbath, and Watchmen is all about the deconstruction and social implications around superheroes and vigilantism. None of this lends itself very well to a character who's supposed to be a paragon of justice and human virtue.

If he was doing a stylized adaptation of, say, Kingdom Come or The New Frontier, I'd be all for it. But I don't think Snyder's the guy to carry the Superman franchise.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I still think Joss Whedon or Alex Proyas would be perfect choices.

[NotFadeAway]

Peter Jackson hopefully.....

[That-Guy]

Jackson would be awesome. He's an amazing director, he's got the best special effects team on the planet at his disposal, and the project isn't so similar to LOTR or King Kong that it would feel like a retread for him.

[Puckenstein]

As long as its a modern Superman story, and not a period piece. ;)

[The Sage]

Zemeckis...

[Superfreak]

I'd blow a load if it were Edward Zwick... man hasn't made a bad movie ever... moreover, his films are pretty deep. Legends of the Fall vs. Superman. I'd lose it, it could be so good. Moreover, there are so many hardcore actors that owe their fame to Zwick, he'd be able to draw in innumerable heavy talent actors to the franchise, much like the current Batman franchise.... peops did say the same thing about Singer, but I don't think Singer is anywhere near Zwick's league. And I feel that he trumps PJ for 'depth', while their movies are equally epic.

[Superfreak]

Zwick'd be my first choice... Jackson second.

[OwlBoy]

J.J. Abrams?

[Cain]

At this point I'll believe it when we see it.

[NotFadeAway]

Peter Jackson has always been my choice, with Nicholas Meyer second.

Peter Jackson with his writing team, and Bruce Timm as a creative consultant.

[metr0man]

Matthew Vaughan.

I heard he's not doing Thor anymore. Snap him up WB!!!!

[metr0man]

Matthew Vaughan.

I heard he's not doing Thor anymore. Snap him up WB!!!!

[That-Guy]

Peter Jackson has always been my choice, with Nicholas Meyer second.

Peter Jackson with his writing team, and Bruce Timm as a creative consultant.

I'd definitely be down with that.

[NotFadeAway]

I'd definitely be down with that.

The other awesome thing about Peter Jackson is, well, what actor does not want to work with Peter Jackson. We would have our pick of Hollywood for all the roles.

Thats why Nolan got so many great actors. When picking a Directing/Writing team, keep in mind, what actors would work with who in a comic book film?

[SuperDaniel]

Jackson would be too good to be true...

[FaT_tONle]

Jackson??? You guys are high... you'll be lucky to get a guy on the level of Abrams. I say bring in Letterier... I think he is a good fit with Supes... and he has handled films like this before... he'll get the flexibilty to make the film that he wants without sacrificing character development (which he didn't have with TIH) and he could potentially make a blockbuster... perfect way for DC to shove it in Marvel's face.

[C. W. Saturn]

I hope it's NOT Jackson.

I will probably fall asleep then when watching the movie.

[Showtime]

I honestly can't picture WB bringing a big name such as Jackson at this point, considering what happened with Bryan.

[Hunter Rider]

I'd really like there to be some definitive news by Christmas.

[NotFadeAway]

I honestly can't picture WB bringing a big name such as Jackson at this point, considering what happened with Bryan.

I could see this being a very low key project as well. More Quality than quantity. Which is why I suggested Nicholas Meyer, just put some S:TAS in front of him and let him find his story and work from there.

[Metropolis_Man]

Christmas news would be good for a Superman film. Hopefully something positive though.

[bgshw44]

why dont they just tweak the jj abrahms script and have him direct it

[Lighthouse]

I'm pretty sure Jackson is going to be busy with Tintin for awhile. Thats the whole reason he couldn't do the Hobbit movies.

[kalelkilla]

I would love to see Peter Jackson direct with a JJ Abrahms script...with Jeph Loeb as the 'DC' guy like Goyer was for "Begins."I think that is the best combination possible. Jackson completely consumes himself in everything he does and would not stop production until the movie is absolutely perfect. He has such an astonishing attention to detail. As "LOR" and "TDK" showed us, people are willing to sit through a 3 hour movie as long as it's great. God help us if it's Michael Bay...gulp.

[El Payaso]

I don't think Snyder's the guy to carry the Superman franchise.

From what I remember, he agrees on that himself.

[dark_b]

bryan singer is in nooo way that big director like jackson is.
so there is no way that WB will go from singer to jackson. hey we can talk about it. but very unrealistic. i think there is more chance schumacher making a batman reboot then jackson doing superman.
but hey i am crazy

[Showtime]

I'd really like there to be some definitive news by Christmas.

I think we all would. You'd think Marvel restructuring their slate and getting more press would light a fire under Robinov. However, you don't want to rush this.

I could see this being a very low key project as well. More Quality than quantity. Which is why I suggested Nicholas Meyer, just put some S:TAS in front of him and let him find his story and work from there.

I think somebody like Meyer, but not necessarily him. He is more of a writer now although I think he is directing Don Quioxte.

why dont they just tweak the jj abrahms script and have him direct it

That isn't going to happen. I'm sure they'll pull elements out of it like a poster here mentioned. Singer pulled some out of the Batman vs Superman script.

I would love to see Peter Jackson direct with a JJ Abrahms script...with Jeph Loeb as the 'DC' guy like Goyer was for "Begins."I think that is the best combination possible. Jackson completely consumes himself in everything he does and would not stop production until the movie is absolutely perfect. He has such an astonishing attention to detail. As "LOR" and "TDK" showed us, people are willing to sit through a 3 hour movie as long as it's great. God help us if it's Michael Bay...gulp.

It would be nice but I think WB will steer away from these "star" directors. Who knows though.

I'm pretty sure Jackson is going to be busy with Tintin for awhile. Thats the whole reason he couldn't do the Hobbit movies.

Him and Bay are both very busy at this point.

bryan singer is in nooo way that big director like jackson is.
so there is no way that WB will go from singer to jackson. hey we can talk about it. but very unrealistic. i think there is more chance schumacher making a batman reboot then jackson doing superman.
but hey i am crazy

Ha. I wouldn't go that far.

[I Am The Knight]

I'm pretty sure Jackson is going to be busy with Tintin for awhile. Thats the whole reason he couldn't do the Hobbit movies.

I don't think Jackson wanted to make The Hobbit films... :o

but hey i am crazy

Oh rlyz?? :wow:

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'd bet on them going for a director that they can control a little easier.

[I Am The Knight]

Nice sig.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Nice sig.lol Really?

[I Am The Knight]

lol Really?

Yes, it's simple, and effective :o

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Yes, it's simple, and effective :oAlright. I have actually been meaning to change it but I can't think of anything better.

[I Am The Knight]

Alright. I have actually been meaning to change it but I can't think of anything better.

I see. Well "***** it" is nice. "***** you" would be nicer.

Or you could always put something like "Cavill for Superman" or "I don't trust in Sam Raimi for Spider-Man 4" :hehe:

[Bad Superman]

Peter Jackson FTW

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I see. Well "***** it" is nice. "***** you" would be nicer.

Or you could always put something like "Cavill for Superman" or "I don't trust in Sam Raimi for Spider-Man 4" :hehe: lol I should put "I wanna trust Sam Raimi for Spider-Man 4 but I don't really because Spider-Man 3 sucked so hard." Yours is short and to the point though. Cavill for Superman will probably end up in my sig sooner or later.

[I Am The Knight]

lol I should put "I wanna trust Sam Raimi for Spider-Man 4 but I don't really because Spider-Man 3 sucked so hard." Yours is short and to the point though. Cavill for Superman will probably end up in my sig sooner or later.

Mine isn't so short tough (My sig, I mean :o) Someone told me a few days ago that my sig was true :hehe:

But I like your idea for the Raimi sig :up:

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Mine isn't so short tough (My sig, I mean :o) Someone told me a few days ago that my sig was true :hehe:

But I like your idea for the Raimi sig :up:I was saying that your idea for the Spider-Man sig was short and to the point.

I do like my longer one though, I think I'll use it.

[I Am The Knight]

I was saying that your idea for the Spider-Man sig was short and to the point.

I do like my longer one though, I think I'll use it.

:oldrazz: OK

You should post in the Spidey forums more often...

[Hole Shot]

I don't think Jackson wanted to make The Hobbit films... :o


I think he would have done the movie but there was a falling out with the studio. Now they're just throwing him some bills to put his name on as EP so the movie can keep it's Jackson middle earth credibility.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

:oldrazz: OK

You should post in the Spidey forums more often...I probably should but It's hard because I hate how alot of the people act. Also I really have very little nice to say about the fanchise now after the disaster of 2007.

When the studio releases a press release confirming what we know will most likely happen I might go back. As I've said before my interest in the project depends on if the screenplay is decent and doesn't feature any dancing scenes. The way I see it they are already on the right track by not having Sam or his Brother writting it.:up:

And yes, I know I'm off Topic...sorry Showtime. I'll get back to something not Spider-Man related.



He wont do it but if Jackson was announced as the director I'd build a time machine and go to the future so I could see the movie faster.

[AgentPat]

Has Michael Bay been ruled out? 'Cause when I think of modern day "action director," he's the first one that comes to mind. I know people either love him or hate him, but that's not the point. There's no denying he's effective at holding down production costs and delivering films that bring home the bacon, and isn't that what it's all about (from the studio's perspective)?

[Lighthouse]

I don't think Jackson wanted to make The Hobbit films... :o

He did, but he was too busy with Lovely Bones and the Tintin movies, and he felt the fans deserved the movies sooner than later.

[Showtime]

You better be sorry.

[Lighthouse]

I seriously doubt its Michael Bay.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

You better be sorry.:csad:

[I Am The Knight]

Regarding Jackson: For some reason, I always had the feeling that he didn't really want to go back to Middle Earth, so to speak, even though he obviously loves the material. He created a "perfect" trilogy, he probably wouldn't want to mess with that. But you guys are probably right.

[AgentPat]

I seriously doubt its Michael Bay.Why? Is he attached to direct another film(s) during the period Warners wants to get Superman started again? Is he known for demanding final cut? I wouldn't put him in the same box as Singer - at least Bay welcomes test audiences. He appears to be all about entertaining his audience - making things pretty to look at, funny to watch, and bombastic to listen to. It often comes at the expense of the story, but that hasn't stopped his films from raking in denero, which is what the studio wants. Bay lets his cast go off script if it makes for a better (read: funny) scene. I think when he tries to hammer home a more intricate story (see Pearl Harbor and The Island), it falls flat. But do something "simple" like a meteor on a collision course with Earth, or alien robots invading it, the public eats it up. I could see Warners considering him, especially after a "serious" Superman didn't fly (pun intended) to their expectations.

But I ask again, has Bay been ruled out? :huh:

[Showtime]

Well at this point...has anybody really been ruled out Patty? I think the only director that can be 100% ruled out is Bryan Singer. Bay, although a bigger name, is exactly the type of director WB should be looking for. He is a "studio guy", which WB desperately needs. However, I think is schedule is pretty jam packed if I remember correctly.

[Lighthouse]

Why? Is he attached to direct another film(s) during the period Warners wants to get Superman started again? Is he known for demanding final cut? I wouldn't put him in the same box as Singer - at least Bay welcomes test audiences. He appears to be all about entertaining his audience - making things pretty to look at, funny to watch, and bombastic to listen to. It often comes at the expense of the story, but that hasn't stopped his films from raking in denero, which is what the studio wants. Bay lets his cast go off script if it makes for a better (read: funny) scene. I think when he tries to hammer home a more intricate story (see Pearl Harbor and The Island), it falls flat. But do something "simple" like a meteor on a collision course with Earth, or alien robots invading it, the public eats it up. I could see Warners considering him, especially after a "serious" Superman didn't fly (pun intended) to their expectations.

But I ask again, has Bay been ruled out? :huh:

I guess I can't rule him out, but I remember back in the Ratner days where Bay said he didn't really care for comic book films. Bay certainly isn't the director Millar is talking about, since he said the director was huge at WB, and Bay has never done a WB film. I also think he's going to be busy with Transformers for a long time.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Well at this point...has anybody really been ruled out Patty? I think the only director that can be 100% ruled out is Bryan Singer. Bay, although a bigger name, is exactly the type of director WB should be looking for. He is a "studio guy", which WB desperately needs. However, I think is schedule is pretty jam packed if I remember correctly.Agreed.

[AgentPat]

Well at this point...has anybody really been ruled out Patty? I think the only director that can be 100% ruled out is Bryan Singer. Bay, although a bigger name, is exactly the type of director WB should be looking for. He is a "studio guy", which WB desperately needs. However, I think is schedule is pretty jam packed if I remember correctly.If he's just producing, he would have time. If he has another film after TF2 on his sked, it would be difficult. I don't keep up with his projects, so I don't know, which is why I asked.

I guess I can't rule him out, but I remember back in the Ratner days where Bay said he didn't really care for comic book films.Actually, you don't need to go back that far. He said something about not being interested in superheros on the TF commentary track. But money talks, and like Showy said, he is a studio director, and Warners needs that right now.

Bay certainly isn't the director Millar is talking about, since he said the director was huge at WB,Personally, I think Millar is just shooting his mouth off again. Didn't he drop a few thousand dollars in the form of a charity donation for getting the last Superman rumor wrong (Caviezel)? Just sayin'. LOL

and Bay has never done a WB film.Is Millar the one saying that? If so, that doesn't prove anything to me. But just for the record, I believe Warners produced The Island with DreamWorks.

I also think he's going to be busy with Transformers for a long time.This could be true.

[Showtime]

I believe they have talked with Bay already in 2007.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Dear lord I hope they don't talk to him again. As I've said before I don't hate Bay and his movies can be fun but I don't want him.

I wouldn't blame WB if they did though, Transformers did make a not bad 708 million dollars.

[bgshw44]

I love Bays films, just what Superman needs IMO

[Delete]

Peter Jackson hopefully.....

I so don't want a 3 1/2 hour Superman movie.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I thought that we already got one??? Atleast it felt like it.

[Astrodust]

I guess I can't rule him out, but I remember back in the Ratner days where Bay said he didn't really care for comic book films. Bay certainly isn't the director Millar is talking about, since he said the director was huge at WB, and Bay has never done a WB film. I also think he's going to be busy with Transformers for a long time.

Can anyone find me where Millar said that the director has huge at WB. I could be mistaken but my understanding is that the director a huge deal and that WB contacted this director. Also there is no reason why Bay can't do Superman after Transformers 2. Yes there will be a Transformers 3 and yes Bay will probably direct it but there is no timetable yet. Bay doesn't have another movie lined up after TF2, that he's directing anyways. It is totally possible for Bay to do a movie between TF2 and TF3.

[Showtime]

I'm not sure why the next director for Superman has to fall under any definition of Millar's anyway..

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^Exactly. As far as I know Millar has nothing to do with Superman on film.

[NotFadeAway]

A low key, quality origin story about Superman vs. Braniac with quality performances from real actors, along with a few excellent action/fight scenes in the backdrop of a character film establishing Superman in the 21st century is what we need.......Superman Begins!

NOT Bryan Singer's crap vision, OR Michael Bay blowing stuff up for 2 hours.

[Hole Shot]

After Quantum of Solace comes out, Marc Forster (Stranger than Fiction, Monster Ball, Finding Neverland) will be a big action director by Christmas.:woot:

[Hole Shot]

Can anyone find me where Millar said that the director has huge at WB.

He said it in that article a few months back.

And pointed out the only BIG action director that has a long history making movies for WB is... Richard Donner.

Therefore, Millar = b.s.

[Lighthouse]

I hereby make an oath. I haven't changed my avatar in the whole 5 years I've been here(except for adding a painted Joker face). If Michael Bay ends up being the director of Superman, I'll put up any embarrassing avatar you guys choose, and I'll keep it on for 6 months, even if its a BRB one.

[BenReilly]

I don't see why Bay would ever want to direct a Superman movie. Regardless of the fact that he has no interest in the franchise (which should be reason enough alone not to want him), he doesn't need the money. He's already making tons of money with Transformers and he get's to work with Sir Spielberg. Why would he jump ship?

[dark_b]

I don't see why Bay would ever want to direct a Superman movie. Regardless of the fact that he has no interest in the franchise (which should be reason enough alone not to want him), he doesn't need the money. He's already making tons of money with Transformers and he get's to work with Sir Spielberg. Why would he jump ship?because he said it?

i also read somewhere that he was not interested in TF.


after thinking about it i think WB would nto ask him again.

[FilmNerdJamie]

I'm just amazed at how some are ready and willing to take Millar at his word after all the crap he's made up over the years...

:whatever:

[dark_b]

I'm just amazed at how some are ready and willing to take Millar at his word after all the crap he's made up over the years...

:whatever:months ago some guy posted news for JL. and peopel belived him.
this is how things work here. you are here long enough to notice this already.

if mark miller at least would post news in a normal way. you know? like a serious writter. but what he is doing is what fans whant to hear. this was hes plan. because he knows how fans think. he is one of them.
sorry but some people are naive and i know that this is not right to say but this is what i think.

[Sawyer]

I was under the impression that the "director being revealed by Christmas" was just Mark Millar shooting his mouth off about his "Superman movie"...

Honestly, I'm getting really sick of hearing from that guy. He just needs to stick to getting in his scripts on time.

[Astrodust]

A low key, quality origin story about Superman vs. Braniac with quality performances from real actors, along with a few excellent action/fight scenes in the backdrop of a character film establishing Superman in the 21st century is what we need.......Superman Begins!

NOT Bryan Singer's crap vision, OR Michael Bay blowing stuff up for 2 hours.

I disagree. Low key is not what WB is or will aim for. Superman needs to be more like TDK and less like Batman Begins. Obvious some good performances would be ideal but they NEED a blockbuster. They need the audience to be like wow, holy **** that was awesome. Adrenaline, edge of your seat film is what they should settle for. We've had Donner's Superman and Singer's Superman. It's time for 21st century Superman. WB needs only to concern themselves with making Superman a monster hit that people will come back to. And they need to find a director who can guarantee them that.

[Hulkfan2008!]

Peter Jackson hopefully.....

Jackson would be awesome. He's an amazing director, he's got the best special effects team on the planet at his disposal, and the project isn't so similar to LOTR or King Kong that it would feel like a retread for him.

As long as its a modern Superman story, and not a period piece. ;)

The other awesome thing about Peter Jackson is, well, what actor does not want to work with Peter Jackson. We would have our pick of Hollywood for all the roles.

Thats why Nolan got so many great actors. When picking a Directing/Writing team, keep in mind, what actors would work with who in a comic book film?
peter jackson all the way, just has to be a very modern superman.
imagine, superman vr braniac peter jackson style.
man that would be awsome!:word::woot:

[NotFadeAway]

I disagree. Low key is not what WB is or will aim for. Superman needs to be more like TDK and less like Batman Begins. Obvious some good performances would be ideal but they NEED a blockbuster. They need the audience to be like wow, holy **** that was awesome. Adrenaline, edge of your seat film is what they should settle for. We've had Donner's Superman and Singer's Superman. It's time for 21st century Superman. WB needs only to concern themselves with making Superman a monster hit that people will come back to. And they need to find a director who can guarantee them that.

Respectfully, I disagree. I disagree, because Warner's and Singer tried to make SR a grand, epic movie. It just sucked balls, sweaty balls. And Donner's Superman is overrated when you take away Chris Reeve. But then again, I've always believed, and I still believe, that Donner's Superman can be topped, with more ease than some find imaginable.

Now, I was all for jumping in and make a more TDK like Superman movie, before TDK was even being thought about. I WANTED an established Superman story, years ago in the early 2000's, just not the one I recieved from Mr. Singer and his wack pack of fools. I wanted an established Superman movie with some flashbacks of Clark coming to Earth and his childhood. Hell, I had it envisioned. The opening credit scene, following Kal-El's ship through the stars on the journey to Earth, with a Jor-El voiceover. That would take us to the ship crashing in Kansas near the red Kent truck, and as Jor-El's voiceover conculdes, the shot fades out with the Kents holding baby Clark. Boom, shoot to Superman sitting on the clouds, relaxed and listening for those in need. Jump right in as Superman/Clark romances Lois Lane, Lex Luthor is the President which would strike emotion considering today's political climate, Metallo is the muscle, Superman examining his role in todays culture, should Clark just live his life, one of the Kents is stricken with Cancer, something Clark cannot stop, etc etc. There is room for some powerful stuff there.

BUT, because of Bryan Singer and his goof troop, we have to go back and do an origin story, which may not be a bad thing after all. Wasn't my first choice, but lets make do. We can still use my idea's above in the sequel, creating a BB and TDK dynamic. Like I said, a quality, cost effective character flick about Clark coming to Earth and deciding to use his abilities and help people, not because daddy Jor-El told him, but because he wants to. Re-introduce the character to the public, let them know what Superman stands for is still relevant in the 21st century. Superman's mission is not only to help others, but to inspire, and what folks need more inspiring than those of the 21st century. Throw in the Kryptonian version of Braniac, a being that see's humanity as a disease in the universe, that see's us as worthless. Braniac also ties into Krypton being destroyed and the very reason Clark is on Earth. The storyline with Braniac provides instant social commentary, in a way. And Braniac would supply slick, kick ass action scenes. And I personally would have Braniac take on the form of Jor-El (Jim Caviezal or Paul Johansson), to create confusion for Clark by looking like the father that Clark has only seen in recorded messages. And if I may rip off Mr. James Cameron in a deleted Terminator scene, one of the final shots should be the remains of Braniac being loaded into a truck, and when the truck door closes, in fine print, all you see is the word LexCorp, setting up the sequel with Lex and Metallo.

In short, we need our Begins before our TDK can happen. The key is quality actors, quality writers, and a quality Director. QUALITY QUALITY QUALITY......we had bad quantity with Returns. This is our last shot for some time, lets make it work.

[az824]

I so don't want a 3 1/2 hour Superman movie.
i agree, i LOVED lord of the rings, but their main problem was they were too long and KK was horribly long. i dont want the same problem with superman

[I Am The Knight]

i agree, i LOVED lord of the rings, but their main problem was they were too long and KK was horribly long. i dont want the same problem with superman

LOTR had to be long, to cover most of the books. Kong didn't need to be that long, but I'm glad it was.

[az824]

maybe, but there were parts that were too slow and could have gone faster.

[solidsnake86]

So apparently now, rumours are going around with Batman that a sequel might indeed come out in 2010 (just a rumour, nothing more). If this does happen I think it would be to superman's benefit and ours. It would give them the proper amount of time to find a great script and director and would only be 3 years away. I think supermans future on screen will be dependent on batman once again because if they can't get something together for 2010, i really dont see them releasing superman in 2011 with batman.

[Lighthouse]

So apparently now, rumours are going around with Batman that a sequel might indeed come out in 2010 (just a rumour, nothing more). If this does happen I think it would be to superman's benefit and ours. It would give them the proper amount of time to find a great script and director and would only be 3 years away. I think supermans future on screen will be dependent on batman once again because if they can't get something together for 2010, i really dont see them releasing superman in 2011 with batman.

Where are these rumors coming from? Do you have any links?

[matrix_ghost]

Where are these rumors coming from? Do you have any links?

BOF has two reports from insiders ( well technically they're carpenters :huh:) who are saying that pre-production is going to start in feb. 2009 for a summer 2009 shoot.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'll believe it when I see it. As of right now I firmly believe that another Superman movie won't be coming out in 2010. Thats too soon to get everything together for an all new version of Superman.

[FilmNerdJamie]

I was under the impression that the "director being revealed by Christmas" was just Mark Millar shooting his mouth off about his "Superman movie"...

Correctamundo.

BOF has two reports from insiders ( well technically they're carpenters :huh:) who are saying that pre-production is going to start in feb. 2009 for a summer 2009 shoot.

To be fair, Jett has said he doesn't buy this.

[Dark Knight]

If they go with a big time director it should be Ridley Scott....he has big ties with WB's.

[Showtime]

I feel like I'm playing Clue.

Bay at WB with The Action.

[solidsnake86]

I'll believe it when I see it. As of right now I firmly believe that another Superman movie won't be coming out in 2010. Thats too soon to get everything together for an all new version of Superman.

We were refering to the rumours of a Batman sequel beginning production in february.

[DavidTyler]

I feel like I'm playing Clue.

Bay at WB with The Action.

Maybe we should make a game out of this.

We could start with everyone guessing who the director will be.

Next would be casting.

People would get points for getting it right.

[solidsnake86]

I really thought that with WB choosing this route that they had heard a pitch that they really liked and had people in mind. The way it seems is like there going no where except they know they want to reboot. Who knows, come next summer is McG's terminator does well I wouldnt be surprised if that guy was back on. Wasn't he an airplane ride away from making it the first time.

[matrix_ghost]

I really thought that with WB choosing this route that they had heard a pitch that they really liked and had people in mind. The way it seems is like there going no where except they know they want to reboot. Who knows, come next summer is McG's terminator does well I wouldnt be surprised if that guy was back on. Wasn't he an airplane ride away from making it the first time.


Yup. If i remember correctly McG is afraid of flying in planes. WB wanted to shoot the superman in australia and that's why McG declined / was fired.
Oh well. If he manges to make a good Terminator movie , i'll support him. Still dunno if he'd go to australia.

Does WB still want to shoot many of their blockbusters in australia because of the fiscal advantages :huh:

[matrix_ghost]

I feel like I'm playing Clue.

Bay at WB with The Action.

Bay at the helm

PROS :
The guy is great when it comes to making entertaining movies. He's can shoot action very very well. Hell i'd definately want to see certain Bay shots with superman.

CONS :
He sucks at the story. Not a big problem IMO for the first superman movie. But yeah even i would rather have superman movies with depth AND action as opposed just action.

MTV editing :o


So yeah it's 50/50 for me

[FilmNerdJamie]

Don't hold your breath anticipating McG's involvement with the revival film. And there was obviously more to his leaving the project back in 2003 than just "he was afraid to get on a plane!"

[Sam]

BOF has two reports from insiders ( well technically they're carpenters :huh:) who are saying that pre-production is going to start in feb. 2009 for a summer 2009 shoot.

I think thats very hard to belive. For that, Warner should have made a choice about who is screenwriter and director, what doesnt seem to be the case so far.

Only if they choose Millar and his misterious director and are waiting to make an annoucement :P

[solidsnake86]

Sam, were talking about batman starting next year, not superman.

[Sam]

Sam, were talking about batman starting next year, not superman.

oh, sorry! My mistake! heh

;)

[I SEE SPIDEY]

We were refering to the rumours of a Batman sequel beginning production in february.Oh, alright. Well I don't believe that rumor. Nolan isn't the type of director that rushes out his films.

[hippie_hunter]

why dont they just tweak the jj abrahms script and have him direct it
Because the J.J. Abrams script was downright awful that's why. After the script review AICN did, WB knew they had a stinker of Batman & Robin proportions therefore screwing up the Superman reboot they wanted.

And if they went with the Abrams script this time around when they want to do a reboot yet again, it will kill the Superman film franchise.

Krypton still around. King Jor-El. Suit in a can. Superman returns to Krypton in the end. Kryptonian CIA agent Lex Luthor.

[hippie_hunter]

Does WB still want to shoot many of their blockbusters in australia because of the fiscal advantages :huh:
No because Australia just got rid of those fiscal advantages a few months ago. It helped kill the Justice League Mortal project.

[Maze]

And finally, the Superman sequel Man of Steel. The WB insider recognizes there has been a lot of buzz on the internet following the success of Iron Man and The Dark Knight, for a Superman sequel, but they really just don't know what's going on at this time. I asked him if Bryan Singer was still attached. He said he didn't know where it stands right now at the studio level since Singer has been busy on Valkyrie.

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5563&Itemid=99

[matrix_ghost]

No because Australia just got rid of those fiscal advantages a few months ago. It helped kill the Justice League Mortal project.

Did they completely get rid of the tax rebate ? I thought that george Miller wanted a higher tax rebate ( 30 %) as opposed to the usual one that is given by the australian goverment ( 10 %'ish)

Oh well. WHo knows maybe they'll decide to shoot the movie in Germany , at the babelsberg studios. V for Vendetta , Speed Racer , Ninja Assasin and Valkyrie have been shot there and the german goverment is also encouring other studios to to the same by making it cheaper ( tax rebates).

[Ultimate_Superman]

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5563&Itemid=99So they are now saying there is a chance for a sequel. This is just crazy.

[Ultimate_Superman]

The WB needs to make up their mind with what they want to do with Superman if the IESB rumor is true. I mean if they are going to give Singer a chance to finish up his saga then do it. But if they are going to just go a head with a reboot then get on the ball and start moving forward with this quit going round and round with this project.

[dark_b]

Because the J.J. Abrams script was downright awful that's why. After the script review AICN did, WB knew they had a stinker of Batman & Robin proportions therefore screwing up the Superman reboot they wanted.

And if they went with the Abrams script this time around when they want to do a reboot yet again, it will kill the Superman film franchise.

Krypton still around. King Jor-El. Suit in a can. Superman returns to Krypton in the end. Kryptonian CIA agent Lex Luthor.this was the first draft.

[GreenKToo]

W.B. is notorious for being tight lipped about their film projects. As for me, i'm losing interest with all this waiting.

[Ultimate_Superman]

To be honest if the WB gives Singer a chance for a sequel I am going to be pissed. Because don't get me wrong I did love Superman Returns and thought it was a good movie but just the wrong type of movie for a reboot. I think if the WB is thinking about doing a reboot this much then just go ahead and do it already. If they are waiting for Singer to finish up with this movie before moving forward then they should have just kept their mouth shut about Superman and then say something after talking with him. I am a die-hard Superman fan but even I am losing interest in this project with how they just keep on going round and round.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm going to stick to believing Robinov and not a silly little rumor.

[dark_b]

I'm going to stick to believing Robinov and not a silly little rumor.yeah he had to realyl think a lot of time before going public with this.
i dont think they will change their mind.

[Dark Knight]

W.B. is notorious for being tight lipped about their film projects. As for me, i'm losing interest with all this waiting.



Yep!

[Sawyer]

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5563&Itemid=99

I call BS. This "insider" wouldnt even let their name be revealed.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

if WB were going to allow a sequel to be made Robinov wouldn't have come out and, in hollywood faux polite speak, trashed Superman Returns in public. WB is IMHO being incredibly smart. They have a great movie that just made over 500mil that almost everyone loves that was built off of the back of a reboot that although not a huge hit was widely accepted. I'm not going off of the nerd boards when I say this: Superman Returns was not as well recieved as BB, Spider-Man 1 or Iron Man or the first Superman movie or Batman89.

The WB knew they had a bad foundation for a sequel so they chucked it and want to start over now. Spider-Man 3's gross in 2007 and Iron Man and TDK's gross in 2008 show that comicbook movies are hugely popular. Superman was not in the same position as BB, it should have made far more than 200mil. I believe that the next Superman movie will be a atleast 275mil smash if they actually make it exciting.

All of these reports are from fans of Superman Returns I bet. The writing is on the wall fellas...sorry.

[NotFadeAway]

if WB were going to allow a sequel to be made Robinov wouldn't have come out and, in hollywood faux polite speak, trashed Superman Returns in public. WB is IMHO being incredibly smart. They have a great movie that just made over 500mil that almost everyone loves that was built off of the back of a reboot that although not a huge hit was widely accepted. I'm not going off of the nerd boards when I say this: Superman Returns was not as well recieved as BB, Spider-Man 1 or Iron Man or the first Superman movie or Batman89.

The WB knew they had a bad foundation for a sequel so they chucked it and want to start over now. Spider-Man 3's gross in 2007 and Iron Man and TDK's gross in 2008 show that comicbook movies are hugely popular. Superman was not in the same position as BB, it should have made far more than 200mil. I believe that the next Superman movie will be a atleast 275mil smash if they actually make it exciting.

All of these reports are from fans of Superman Returns I bet. The writing is on the wall fellas...sorry.

Your dead on.....we will be getting our Superman Begins soon enough. They just need to find Superman's version of Nolan.

[dark_b]

let us hope that the superman begins movie will be good.
and dont even try to say '' belive me WB will make a badass movie''

[Ultimate_Superman]

if WB were going to allow a sequel to be made Robinov wouldn't have come out and, in hollywood faux polite speak, trashed Superman Returns in public. WB is IMHO being incredibly smart. They have a great movie that just made over 500mil that almost everyone loves that was built off of the back of a reboot that although not a huge hit was widely accepted. I'm not going off of the nerd boards when I say this: Superman Returns was not as well recieved as BB, Spider-Man 1 or Iron Man or the first Superman movie or Batman89.

The WB knew they had a bad foundation for a sequel so they chucked it and want to start over now. Spider-Man 3's gross in 2007 and Iron Man and TDK's gross in 2008 show that comicbook movies are hugely popular. Superman was not in the same position as BB, it should have made far more than 200mil. I believe that the next Superman movie will be a atleast 275mil smash if they actually make it exciting.

All of these reports are from fans of Superman Returns I bet. The writing is on the wall fellas...sorry.
I hope your right because I for one am looking forward to this reboot. As I said before I liked Superman Returns and as sequel to the first two movies I thought it was well done but I also think it was a bad movie for a "reboot" as they so often called it. For a sequel it is great and I think that you could build upon it but you can only do so much before backing yourself in a corner with Jason and how he was introduced (meaning making him out to be Richards son first then turns out he was Superman's it is hard putting not only Superman with Lois but Clark with Lois with that type of setup). So I think a reboot is the best way to go now especially with all the time that has passed.

[Ultimate_Superman]

let us hope that the superman begins movie will be good.
and dont even try to say '' belive me WB will make a badass movie''Correct because the WB is taking a huge chance with this reboot. I mean with all its fault Superman Returns did make 200 million dollars and does have just as many people asking for a reboot asking for a sequel. So IMO the WB does have to work very hard on this reboot because they will only get one shot at this and if they fail you'll always here people asking the what if about Singer like how we do with Donner. As I said before Superman Returns was not a bad movie if you look at it as a sequel but it was a bad reboot if you look at it like that and I think we could have a Hulk on our hands if this movie isn't done right.

[solidsnake86]

I liked superman returns and never thought they would do a reboot, especially with them signing singer for the ridiculous contract, and for that fact that doing a reboot requires them to wait at least a good five years as was shown with the hulk. Now with all this talk of a reboot I'm really looking forward to a retelling of the origin and for that first interaction between lois and clark because that is some of the best stuff about superman. I guess I am looking more forward to a superman begins at this point than if they did a sequel because if they did do a sequel there is too much time in between.

[FilmNerdJamie]

I call BS. This "insider" wouldnt even let their name be revealed.

Ugh. Even though I don't believe this either - what insider would ever let their name be revealed out loud. God knows mine won't! No offense, but that's one stupid criticism. :whatever:

One other thing, you folks do realize there already was a "Superman Begins" - it came out during Christmas 1978 and was called Superman The Movie. You guys also don't seem to notice that Batman Begins takes alot from Donner and Nolan has admitted to being heavily influenced by it while making his film.

[dark_b]

I liked superman returns and never thought they would do a reboot, especially with them signing singer for the ridiculous contract, and for that fact that doing a reboot requires them to wait at least a good five years as was shown with the hulk. Now with all this talk of a reboot I'm really looking forward to a retelling of the origin and for that first interaction between lois and clark because that is some of the best stuff about superman. I guess I am looking more forward to a superman begins at this point than if they did a sequel because if they did do a sequel there is too much time in between.WBs history shows that they never know wha tthey are doing.

you know what...they are like dogs chasing a car. when they catch it they dont know what to do with it. :cool:
bottom line WB has no idea what they will do tomorrow.

they just............do things :hoboj:

[solidsnake86]

Of course everyone realizes that, doesn't mean everyone likes that movie. Yes, begins took a lot from it, but everyone makes it sound like, had STM not come out, no one would have figured out this format for themselves. Also no one said you have to start with him in smallville, but I at least think Clark going to the daily planet for the first time is a must. If they don't do that they shouldve done a sequel to SR.

[Sawyer]

Ugh. Even though I don't believe this either - what insider would ever let their name be revealed out loud. God knows mine won't! No offense, but that's one stupid criticism. :whatever:

Okay... that wasnt the entire basis of my saying that it was bulls***, but whatever. :whatever:

[FilmNerdJamie]

Okay... that wasnt the entire basis of my saying that it was bulls***, but whatever. :whatever:

I call BS. This "insider" wouldnt even let their name be revealed.

Your exact words - not mine. Sounds like it to me.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

My problem with Superman Returns is that it was a non-orgin orgin story. If Singer was going to do a Returns story then take advantage of the fact that it wasn't an orgin and give us a freakin Supervillain from the comicbooks and even if you keep the Lex is an underground criminal thing, don't give him a ditsy female sidekick and make him completely serious. If they wanted to use Kryptonite so badly, use Mettallo, he is the best of both worlds. Also the movie should have actually delved into the Returns theme, it was just shotty writting not to. Have him tell Lois he is going to go investigate after Lex tricks him into thinking that his home planet somehow survived. Have something go wrong and delay his return for five years. You can even have that freakin kid, provided that Lois knows that Supes and Clark are the same person and that they are in a relationship. The idea for the Returns story is interesting and it could have made for a different good and exciting movie if plot points like the ones I outlined had happened. That all being said I still would have perfered a new orgin story.

It doesn't matter that Donner's Superman movie created the Superhero orgin story format as early as it did, it would have been done by somebody else if not him. And I still don't care for Superman The Movie and no one is going to convince me to think differently about it.

I'm going to stop talking about this because I'm getting what I want, there is no need to argue about it anymore.:yay:

Peace out.

[Sawyer]

Your exact words - not mine. Sounds like it to me.

My saying that the insider wouldnt even reveal their name was an additional statement to this "insider" being full of s***.

[I Am The Knight]

An insider would have to be an idiot to out himself to an Internet medium.

[Sawyer]

I get that. But the fact is, we need to take this stuff with a grain of salt. This "insider" could be one of the higher ups in Warner Bros., but I bet its more like Jeff Robinov's mailmans sisters boyfriend.

It didnt come from someone willing to reveal their name, so I'm just gonna go ahead and ignore it.

[solidsnake86]

It doesn't matter that Donner's Superman movie created the Superhero orgin story format as early as it did, it would have been done by somebody else if not him. And I still don't care for Superman The Movie and no one is going to convince me to think differently about it.

I'm glad someone agrees with me on this one. Donner's sacred format that people constantly bring up would have been done by someone else eventually. And guess what, whoever does origin movies will now be looking at batman, spider-man, and iron man. Plus 1978 is 30 years ago, people put to much stock in a movie that was mediocre at best except the few fans that liked the film.

[FilmNerdJamie]

People only moan and whine about "proving" inside information (i.e. identity of said informant, etc.) when they don't like what the info in question is...

[I Am The Knight]

I'm glad someone agrees with me on this one. Donner's sacred format that people constantly bring up would have been done by someone else eventually. And guess what, whoever does origin movies will now be looking at batman, spider-man, and iron man. Plus 1978 is 30 years ago, people put to much stock in a movie that was mediocre at best except the few fans that liked the film.

Whaaaa... :dry: Mediocre at best..."Few" fans... :huh:

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm glad someone agrees with me on this one. Donner's sacred format that people constantly bring up would have been done by someone else eventually. And guess what, whoever does origin movies will now be looking at batman, spider-man, and iron man. Plus 1978 is 30 years ago, people put to much stock in a movie that was mediocre at best except the few fans that liked the film.We need to talk more because we are in 100% agreement on this subject. As far as orgin stories go those are the movies that I liked the most and look to.

People only moan and whine about "proving" inside information (i.e. identity of said informant, etc.) when they don't like what the info in question is...I agree. I'm questioning/doubting the insider info because Robinov came out and said the next movie was going to be a reintroduction.

[Sawyer]

People only moan and whine about "proving" inside information (i.e. identity of said informant, etc.) when they don't like what the info in question is...

Not really. I could get great info from an unnamed insider, and I'd be questioning it, too. Wouldnt want to get my hopes up about something that may never come to pass (which, unfortunately, has happened quite a few times in the past. I've learned my lesson.)

So, please, back off.

[Sam]

Plus 1978 is 30 years ago, people put to much stock in a movie that was mediocre at best except the few fans that liked the film.

What a mediocre statment.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^No he just happens to not like the same things you do...scary I know!

[Sam]

^No he just happens to not like the same things you do...scary I know!

No, he can have any opinion he wants, i would never criticize him or anyone else because of different opinon.

That was not the case.

So.. "say whatever u want, and but be prepared to listen whatever u dont want".

[FilmNerdJamie]

I can vouch that people come up with the.most.retarded "arguments" when the information is against what they want (i.e. my article from last week!)

[solidsnake86]

It might have been a mediocre statement, doesn't mean its not true, lol... Honestly I never liked that movie, maybe because I didnt watch it when I was 2 years old and didn't get caught up in the "omg he's flying factor". Kids nowadays are used to that stuff so more people will think its nothing big. Luthor was horrible in that film. I hated how weak clark was portrayed, its annoying. Kidder was meh, nothing spectacular in terms of acting and for me, nothing great to look at either. I am the Knight, I was semi-kidding about the few fans, I think fanboys like to exaggerate that movies appeal. I remember a few years ago I couldnt even say I didnt like that film without being attacked.

Lastly, I think that movie is a curse for the superman franchise as a whole. It's the one character that has had a half decent movie and people can never move on to something better. Here's a shocker, IMO Chris Reeve was okay in that film but I think any actor could have done that job, mostly because, IMO of course, superman isnt that hard of a character to portray.

[Sam]

It might have been a mediocre statement, doesn't mean its not true, lol... Honestly I never liked that movie, maybe because I didnt watch it when I was 2 years old and didn't get caught up in the "omg he's flying factor". Kids nowadays are used to that stuff so more people will think its nothing big. Luthor was horrible in that film. I hated how weak clark was portrayed, its annoying. Kidder was meh, nothing spectacular in terms of acting and for me, nothing great to look at either. I am the Knight, I was semi-kidding about the few fans, I think fanboys like to exaggerate that movies appeal. I remember a few years ago I couldnt even say I didnt like that film without being attacked.

Lastly, I think that movie is a curse for the superman franchise as a whole. It's the one character that has had a half decent movie and people can never move on to something better. Here's a shocker, IMO Chris Reeve was okay in that film but I think any actor could have done that job, mostly because, IMO of course, superman isnt that hard of a character to portray.

Much better post. THIS is an opinion post, and i would never answer that way for a post like this, because its just a matter of opinion.

Not like the "mediocre" (to repeat the word u used before) previous one, where u banish something just for pleasure to banish.

[solidsnake86]

Thanks posting police, frankly I couldnt care less about your comment so don't think you hurt my feelings. I think if someone objectively looked at STM and said it was a great film you'd be wrong. I know, it hurts a lot of peoples feelings when people actually bash STM but I think it should be fair game. Had that movie come out today it would be blasted. Same as everyother movie that has come out, so why does STM get a free pass.

[I Am The Knight]

Thanks posting police, frankly I couldnt care less about your comment so don't think you hurt my feelings. I think if someone objectively looked at STM and said it was a great film you'd be wrong. I know, it hurts a lot of peoples feelings when people actually bash STM but I think it should be fair game. Had that movie come out today it would be blasted. Same as everyother movie that has come out, so why does STM get a free pass.

Obviously you look at the movies in the context of the time in which they came out, and what they did for the genre :whatever:

[Sawyer]

Snyder wouldnt do it. He thrives off darker material, and he has even said before that he wouldnt do a mainstream superhero film. Sorry.

That said, I think that, if he wanted to do it, he would do a great job.

PS: Andy C., Snyder had nothing to do with Slither.

[echostation]

just tipped off about a name that's come up as the tiniest blip on the radar as it was just suggested by some... nothing particularly big as this European action/disaster film director's name has pretty much been always thrown around in discussions as a potential candidate for the director's chair of nearly every Superhero film from Batman to Spider-Man to even non-comic related Superhero flicks. One main reason is his ability to keep budgets in check and give massive visual spectacle and bang for the buck and most of his films have been quite profitable if not massive successes.

Most of you know whom i'm referring to, many of you guys absolutely hate him but he was thought of as he can provide quite entertaining films with massive action scenes on reasonable budgets and not let budgets go spiraling out of control..

[Sawyer]

IMO, Superman: The Movie is so beloved for the fact that it is a classic. It was the first film to take a serious approach to comic material, and that is why so many love it.

Now, to me, its pretty good. Not incredible, just pretty good. The origin was fantastic, as are the scenes in Smallville. Once it gets to Metropolis, all the scenes, aside from Supermans in-costume introduction, are just okay. Personally, I dont care for Hackman's Luthor. He was just too jokey.

[I Am The Knight]

just tipped off about a name that's come up as the tiniest blip on the radar as it was just suggested by some... nothing particularly big as this European action/disaster film director's name has pretty much been always thrown around in discussions as a potential candidate for the director's chair of nearly every Superhero film from Batman to Spider-Man to even non-comic related Superhero flicks. One main reason is his ability to keep budgets in check and give massive visual spectacle and bang for the buck and most of his films have been quite profitable if not massive successes.

Most of you know whom i'm referring to, many of you guys absolutely hate him but he was thought of as he can provide quite entertaining films with massive action scenes on reasonable budgets and not let budgets go spiraling out of control..

Brett Ratner. It's Brett Ratner, right??

Oh, but you say he's European :huh: I didn't get that part.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Roland Emmerich.

Like I've said before, the studio will ultimately get a lesser-known but insanely talented filmmaker whom they can control - like when Peter Jackson got The Lord of the Rings trilogy, Sam Raimi with Spider-Man, etc.

[Lighthouse]

Roland Emmerich.

Suddenly, Michael Bay doesn't seem like such a bad idea.

[solidsnake86]

Just a question to throw out there, is WB going after certain directors they have on a short list, or are they waiting for directors to come to them with an idea.

[Sawyer]

just tipped off about a name that's come up as the tiniest blip on the radar as it was just suggested by some... nothing particularly big as this European action/disaster film director's name has pretty much been always thrown around in discussions as a potential candidate for the director's chair of nearly every Superhero film from Batman to Spider-Man to even non-comic related Superhero flicks. One main reason is his ability to keep budgets in check and give massive visual spectacle and bang for the buck and most of his films have been quite profitable if not massive successes.

Most of you know whom i'm referring to, many of you guys absolutely hate him but he was thought of as he can provide quite entertaining films with massive action scenes on reasonable budgets and not let budgets go spiraling out of control..

Source?

[I Am The Knight]

I don't think Emmerich's too offensive...But I just can't picture his name on the credits of a Superman movie :huh: :hehe:

[echostation]

this is from a source (my only source that I have) who now works at WB but does get the random odd scoop here and there depending upon... it's very rare she/he hears anything in general but has provided some genuine scoops in the past like Stan Winston's involvement with Iron Man well before anyone else, Snyder being considered before Ratner for director of X-3 after Vaughn left and the starting up of a camp in WB that argued for a reboot for the franchise. so again, the info comes in sparsely and she/he has been wrong in the past but they're pretty sure of this one..

[dark_b]

i thought now what if Rolland Emmerich is the big action director from MM. he did a lot of big action movies on scale.
but after looking at IMDB he did only one movie for WB 10.000
the guy made a lot of big scale movies

[dark_b]

Roland Emmerich.

Like I've said before, the studio will ultimately get a lesser-known but insanely talented filmmaker whom they can control - like when Peter Jackson got The Lord of the Rings trilogy, Sam Raimi with Spider-Man, etc.how will WB knwo if this lesser known director is talented for a big budget superman movie?

lets face it.....if they want this kind of director they will have to risk a lot.

[dark_b]

what i find funny is that noone of my friends knows who the director of POTC movies is. i dont even remember when the promotion was in full swing if they even mention him once. yet the movies made milions of money.
funny isnt it?

[FilmNerdJamie]

how will WB knwo if this lesser known director is talented for a big budget superman movie?

lets face it.....if they want this kind of director they will have to risk a lot.

Obviously because said director will come in and throw out ideas of what he would do with the character, series, etc. - something like Jackson and Raimi did...

[dark_b]

Obviously because said director will come in and throw out ideas of what he would do with the character, series, etc. - something like Jackson and Raimi did...i dont understand this process very much. so i need to ask this. are ideas enough?
you or i maybe have the best idea for a superman movie. maybe the perfect ideas. so what?
many months of filming with milions of money. after that months of post production. sound,music,CGI,....
a lesser known director will be a guy who didnt do a big budget movie right? can he handle it? i think if they want this to work they need a GOOD producer and GOOD people around the director.

[FilmNerdJamie]

i dont understand this process very much. so i need to ask this. are ideas enough?
you or i maybe have the best idea for a superman movie. maybe the perfect ideas. so what?
many months of filming with milions of money. after that months of post production. sound,music,CGI,....
a lesser known director will be a guy who didnt do a big budget movie right? can he handle it? i think if they want this to work they need a GOOD producer and GOOD people around the director.

There is no definitive "How to..." with these blockbuster tentpoles.

The questions you asked will certainly be discussed amongst the executives and what not. Bottom line, the studio will always go with the guy who they believe can make them the most $$$.

In the case of Raimi, he'd never helmed a big-budget film in his career and was only known as a "cult filmmaker" whose last two films were low-budget and critically acclaimed. He basically just came in and talked about his love of Spider-Man since his childhood and what he'd want to do with the film series.

He got the gig over people like David Fincher who'd certainly handled their fair share of pricey films...

[Dark Knight]

just tipped off about a name that's come up as the tiniest blip on the radar as it was just suggested by some... nothing particularly big as this European action/disaster film director's name has pretty much been always thrown around in discussions as a potential candidate for the director's chair of nearly every Superhero film from Batman to Spider-Man to even non-comic related Superhero flicks. One main reason is his ability to keep budgets in check and give massive visual spectacle and bang for the buck and most of his films have been quite profitable if not massive successes.

Most of you know whom i'm referring to, many of you guys absolutely hate him but he was thought of as he can provide quite entertaining films with massive action scenes on reasonable budgets and not let budgets go spiraling out of control..



Roland Emmerich huh?

Ahhh.....NO! :down

[Showtime]

Why would WB even consider this guy after the debacle that was 10,000 BC?

[GreenKToo]

I'm sure we'll hear just about every director's name in Hollywood mentioned for Supes at one point or another.
Still, i'd love to see their wish list.

[matrix_ghost]

Why would WB even consider this guy after the debacle that was 10,000 BC?

Maybe because his other movies were (financial) hits .
Technically we could've asked the same thing when michael bay was announced to make Transformers. He made The Island before TF and that movie did flop.

Edit :

Having said that i was wondering if this is WB just considering offerring him the next superman movie or that Emmerich himself has expressed interest.
In both cases i find it a bit odd if there are some negotiations one the superman project since EMmerich is busy with his next movie ( 2012).
Don't directors usually begin to discuss certain film project when they're done with a movie ?

[dark_b]

Why would WB even consider this guy after the debacle that was 10,000 BC?he was the writter so i guess he was the one who came to them.
WB greenlighted this movie. so its again their fault.10.000 BC has disaster written all over it. already on paper. how dumb do you have to be to make this kind of movie?

[Showtime]

Maybe because his other movies were (financial) hits .Technically we could've asked the same thing when michael bay was announced to make Transformers. He made The Island before TF and that movie did flop.

His other movies were financial hits? Not so much. He is hit or miss. Over the last 10 years he has made 4 movies, Godzilla and 10,000 BC failed, The Patriot was lukewarm only making 3 million more domestic then its budget. The hit thrown in there was Day After Tomorrow.


Having said that i was wondering if this is WB just considering offerring him the next superman movie or that Emmerich himself has expressed interest. In both cases i find it a bit odd if there are some negotiations one the superman project since EMmerich is busy with his next movie ( 2012). Don't directors usually begin to discuss certain film project when they're done with a movie ?

It varies on a case to case basis. He could be interested, WB could, or there could be no truth to this rumor whatsoever.

[I Am The Knight]

he was the writter so i guess he was the one who came to them.
WB greenlighted this movie. so its again their fault.10.000 BC has disaster written all over it. already on paper. how dumb do you have to be to make this kind of movie?

Presumably sold in the room as "Camilla Belle in a loincloth"

...

[Antonello Blueberry]

he was the writter so i guess he was the one who came to them.
WB greenlighted this movie. so its again their fault.10.000 BC has disaster written all over it. already on paper. how dumb do you have to be to make this kind of movie?
Disaster? The movie made 269 million $ just in theaters worldwide. And probably double that sum in TV sales.

[GreenKToo]

His other movies were financial hits? Not so much. He is hit or miss. Over the last 10 years he has made 4 movies, Godzilla and 10,000 BC failed, The Patriot was lukewarm only making 3 million more domestic then its budget. The hit thrown in there was Day After Tomorrow.




It varies on a case to case basis. He could be interested, WB could, or there could be no truth to this rumor whatsoever.
It's a little longer than 10 yrs ago but didn't he have a hand in Independence Day as well?

[kalelkilla]

Roland would be the absolute WORST choice they could possibly get. I loved Independence Day but other than that his movies have been trash. Jackson I think is the best possible choice...what we will get is probably someone in the middle...like a Michael Bay...gulp...

[kalelkilla]

Peter Jackson

[Showtime]

Disaster? The movie made 269 million $ just in theaters worldwide. And probably double that sum in TV sales.

It made 94 Million plus domestic against a 105 Million budget. It failed domestically. Like it or leave it, studios measure success domestically. Sure, the movie made a profit eventually, but it wasn't a success.

[Antonello Blueberry]

It made 94 Million plus domestic against a 105 Million budget. It failed domestically. Like it or leave it, studios measure success domestically. Sure, the movie made a profit eventually, but it wasn't a success.
I strongly disagree. That's a myopic statement.

[FilmNerdJamie]

It made 94 Million plus domestic against a 105 Million budget. It failed domestically. Like it or leave it, studios measure success domestically. Sure, the movie made a profit eventually, but it wasn't a success.

I strongly disagree. That's a myopic statement.

http://pro.corbis.com/images/42-16509414.jpg?size=572&uid=%7BFB4AB892-8B8F-4CAA-8BD8-E20A2B7E9AB6%7D

[Showtime]

I strongly disagree. That's a myopic statement.

Fine it was a success. WB should make a sequel. :csad:

10,001 BC

[matrix_ghost]

His other movies were financial hits? Not so much. He is hit or miss. Over the last 10 years he has made 4 movies, Godzilla and 10,000 BC failed, The Patriot was lukewarm only making 3 million more domestic then its budget. The hit thrown in there was Day After Tomorrow.

Yeah but your just looking at the last 10 years.
He had a hand in Independance Day ( 306 million in the US alone) . Godzilla a flop ? Critical flop yes. Commercially no ( budget of 130 million , domestic BO 136 million , foreign 242 million).
And your looking at the domestic BO alone when let's face it , studios do look at foreign numbers too :cwink:
The patriot made 3 million more then it's budget but another 100 million from foreign markets. Even 10.000 BC could be qualified as a "hit"

He may not be a critically loved director but one can't deny that he is sought after in Hollywood. How else could anyone explain why studios were caught up in a bidding war over his 2012 script.







It varies on a case to case basis. He could be interested, WB could, or there could be no truth to this rumor whatsoever.
Yeah i think this is really just a BS rumor.
Still speculation is fun :oldrazz:

I doubt if he would ever take on a superman movie but iif he did i'd be very interested how he would make it. At least you know there will be descruction :woot:

[FilmNerdJamie]

Someone's re-writing history about Godzilla. :whatever:

It was the most anticipated film going into 1998. Sony was so confident in it they released the first teaser a year and half before it opened!

The fact that it mustered up $136 million considering everyone was projecting domestic numbers ranging as low as $285 million to as high as $350 million made it a massive disappoint and many wrote it off as a flop...

[solidsnake86]

So let me get this straight, 10, 000 BC can be considered successful but SR failed. Strange how things are viewed. In the end you can't really judge a director completely on there past movies because lets face it, they have to make a living. Are they going to turn down everything because they think it sucks, or are they gonna cash in on directing it.

[I Am The Knight]

I strongly disagree. That's a myopic statement.

Agreed. (Although I never saw the film and have only heard that it is awful, so it probably deserved to outright bomb.)

[aka Kal el]

I'm pretty sure Jackson is going to be busy with Tintin for awhile. Thats the whole reason he couldn't do the Hobbit movies.

It doesn't look like Tintin is going to happen! Could it be Spielberg?

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Someone's re-writing history about Godzilla. :whatever:

It was the most anticipated film going into 1998. Sony was so confident in it they released the first teaser a year and half before it opened!

The fact that it mustered up $136 million considering everyone was projecting domestic numbers ranging as low as $285 million to as high as $350 million made it a massive disappoint and many wrote it off as a flop...Godzilla was the Superman Returns of 98.

[matrix_ghost]

It doesn't look like Tintin is going to happen! Could it be Spielberg?

Tin Tin is going to happen. Paramount is behind the project and will provide the budget for all 3 flicks. Spielberg is also on baord

[Octoberist]

Speilberg is actually directing it right now as we speak

[Showtime]

Yeah but your just looking at the last 10 years. He had a hand in Independance Day ( 306 million in the US alone) . Godzilla a flop ? Critical flop yes. Commercially no ( budget of 130 million , domestic BO 136 million , foreign 242 million).And your looking at the domestic BO alone when let's face it , studios do look at foreign numbers too :cwink: The patriot made 3 million more then it's budget but another 100 million from foreign markets. Even 10.000 BC could be qualified as a "hit"

They look at it, but it doesn't hold as much importance as domestic to studios. In regards to the WW BO, by that token Superman Returns was a mega hit and we should be seeing a sequel any day now.

He may not be a critically loved director but one can't deny that he is sought after in Hollywood. How else could anyone explain why studios were caught up in a bidding war over his 2012 script.

He's really not all that "sought after" if you ask me.


Yeah i think this is really just a BS rumor. Still speculation is fun I doubt if he would ever take on a superman movie but iif he did i'd be very interested how he would make it. At least you know there will be descruction :woot:

It reminds me of when George Miller was announced as Justice League director and some posters were acting as if he was the second coming of Spielberg.

[dark_b]

Disaster? The movie made 269 million $ just in theaters worldwide. And probably double that sum in TV sales.its a disaster story for christ sake. everything is just NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Showtime]

It only made $30,198,067 on DVD Sales...

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It wasn't a hit. Period.

[I Am The Knight]

It only made $30,198,067 on DVD Sales...

I wonder why...

[Showtime]

I thought you agreed with Antonello?

[I Am The Knight]

About it not being a failure BO wise, yes. But I do believe it was probably an awful movie. Obviously bad WOM killed any potential it had when it comes to DVD sales. Hence the sarcasm in my previous post.

[dark_b]

who would buy a DVD where english speaking ape humans with rasta hair run with mamuts in the desert.

[FilmNerdJamie]

1. Take the box-office argument to the Superman Returns forum(s).

2. I wouldn't compare Superman Returns to Godzilla because Returns was profitable. True, neither film met up to their studio's own internal box-office projections. That said, WB expected $500 million outta Returns and wound up with $400 million. While Sony expected $800-$900 million outta Godzilla and wound up with $400 million.

[dark_b]

but those were waaay to hight expectations from sony. 800 milions was unrealistic. this was one year after titanic right?

i did like godzilla

[I SEE SPIDEY]

1. Take the box-office argument to the Superman Returns forum(s).

2. I wouldn't compare Superman Returns to Godzilla because Returns was profitable. True, neither film met up to their studio's own internal box-office projections. That said, WB expected $500 million outta Returns and wound up with $400 million. While Sony expected $800-$900 million outta Godzilla and wound up with $400 million.If you really believe that WB only expected 500mil from a movie that they probably spent over 300mil to make market and pay for prints. Personally I think that they are lying but yeah I don't have any proof.

[BMM]

but those were waaay to hight expectations from sony. 800 milions was unrealistic. this was one year after titanic right?

i did like godzilla

5 months. In fact, Godzilla and Titanic were in theaters at the same time with Titanic beating some of Godzilla's weekend numbers.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I've got to be honest, I dont think Emmerich is THAT bad of a director, I thought the Day After Tomorrow was actually quite good. But would I want this guy directing a Superman movie? HELL NO, keep him away please. FAR away.

[Antonello Blueberry]

It only made $30,198,067 on DVD Sales...
Most of the TV rights sales are made usually before the movie gets released, based on the budget, the presumed expenses for advertisement and sometimes proportioned to the theater gross.
It could have done 2 cents on the DVD market and still be profitable.
As 99% of the studio movies.

[C. W. Saturn]

I SO hope it's Michael Mann.

[I Am The Knight]

i did like godzilla

Have you seen it recently?

[Showtime]

Most of the TV rights sales are made usually before the movie gets released, based on the budget, the presumed expenses for advertisement and sometimes proportioned to the theater gross.

Yes...I know.

It could have done 2 cents on the DVD market and still be profitable. As 99% of the studio movies.

Almost every single film ends up being profitable due to DVD and TV Sales, that doesn't mean the movie isn't a "failure" during the theater run? By your defintion almost every film, no matter the domestic take would not be a failure because it will turn a profit later. Why is Superman Returns not getting a sequel? It certainly turned a profit?

[matrix_ghost]

They look at it, but it doesn't hold as much importance as domestic to studios. In regards to the WW BO, by that token Superman Returns was a mega hit and we should be seeing a sequel any day now.


Yes and no. Speculation on my part but i think that if you're talking about small budget numbers ( say in the area of 10-90 million) then yes , the studio don't look at foreign numbers. Often the movie can make make enough money based on the domestic sales alone ( theatrical prints /dvd /rental).


Becomes a different thing when your talking about massive budgets. 150 million and higher . The studios are definately looking at the foreign numbers because those are important for the studio to break even/make a pofit. If that weren't the case , i doubt we'd be seeing budgets of 256 million for spider-man 3 and 300 million for POTC 3.

However i will agree with you that the domestic numbers do play a important part when studios decide if they want to continue with a franchise or not. Look at Golden Compass. The movie bombed in the US but was a hit in foreign markets. Ultimately the movie made back ít's budget. WIll the studio consider making a sequel. Doubtful.

[Antonello Blueberry]

Almost every single film ends up being profitable due to DVD and TV Sales, that doesn't mean the movie isn't a "failure" during the theater run? By your defintion almost every film, no matter the domestic take would not be a failure because it will turn a profit later. Why is Superman Returns not getting a sequel? It certainly turned a profit?
Superman Returns was supposed to get a sequel up to a couple of months ago, when Robinov saw the numbers from "The Dark Knight" and thought that a Superman movie should make those same numbers.
Someone should explain to him that not all the superhero movies could reach those peaks and that the movie was not that successful simply because it was dark.
Anyway SR surely turned a profit that WB had to share with Legendary and Singer. For the next movie, I'm sure they'll try to make a different kind of deal with the new director.
I have the strong suspicion that they're making things difficult for Singer because they don't want to pay his share as a director in a new movie.

[KaptainKrypton]

I've got to be honest, I dont think Emmerich is THAT bad of a director, I thought the Day After Tomorrow was actually quite good. But would I want this guy directing a Superman movie? HELL NO, keep him away please. FAR away.
I agree with you. He's a VERY capable director on the technical side of things. As long as he deals with a script that I'd find palatable, I think he'd do a bang-up job on nearly any event movie. Even Superman. I loved The Patriot and I even have a special place in my heart for Universal Soldier (although I don't tell my friends very much about that one). As long as Warner has a solid writing staff to keep the characters where they need to be, Emmerich will take care of the rest.

[KaptainKrypton]

Almost every single film ends up being profitable due to DVD and TV Sales, that doesn't mean the movie isn't a "failure" during the theater run? By your defintion almost every film, no matter the domestic take would not be a failure because it will turn a profit later. Why is Superman Returns not getting a sequel? It certainly turned a profit?
I think I read somewhere that theatrical gross only accounts for about 20% of a film's profit nowadays and that DVD is where they make the cleanup anyway (especially with the different special editions and double-dipping).

[Antonello Blueberry]

I think I read somewhere that theatrical gross only accounts for about 20% of a film's profit nowadays and that DVD is where they make the cleanup anyway (especially with the different special editions and double-dipping).
TV rights sales are a big chunk of the pie.
if you don't believe me, here's waht Mark Millar wrote on his forum:
http://forums.millarworld.tv/index.php?showtopic=8390 (http://forums.millarworld.tv/index.php?showtopic=83901)

WANTED JUST CROSSED 300 MILLION ON SATURDAY, HUZZAH!

Not bad for a little R rated movie.

Work already deeply underway on the sequel of course, but just keeping you up to date. Box Office Mojo as a few weeks behind on overseas opening (they still have us at 292 mill), but now we've opened in Japan, etc, and done unbelievably well. They estimate we'll do at least another 200 million on DVD too and expecting totals of over half a billion once the TV rights and so on get sold too.

Very cool for a 100 million investment.

More as it happens, but back to work for now.

[KaptainKrypton]

TV rights sales are a big chunk of the pie.
if you don't believe me, here's waht Mark Millar wrote on his forum:
http://forums.millarworld.tv/index.php?showtopic=8390 (http://forums.millarworld.tv/index.php?showtopic=83901)
Those ancillary revenue streams have become the backbone of the industry in the last decade. I knew something was up when they started making EVERY home release affordable. I still remember the days when a VHS rental copy would cost upwards of $100 and everyone I knew (myself included) just rented movies because buying them wasn't feasible given the cost ratio. Finding sales figures for the other stuff is difficult because box office take is all that's readily available (then again, I'm not that good at "internetting" so go figger). I'd really like to get a gander at the cumulative sales figures for films like SR, BB, and the POTC flicks to see what was really spent and what was really made.

[NeoRanger]

Superman Returns was supposed to get a sequel up to a couple of months ago, when Robinov saw the numbers from "The Dark Knight" and thought that a Superman movie should make those same numbers.


If SR was supposed to get a sequel recently, it would already be in production and ready to premiere next summer. Fact is, after Returns, WB didn't know what to do with Superman. They were not confident he could turn in the profit they wanted, so they stalled and stalled and in the meantime kept desperately pushing projects like Justice League and whatnot.

TDK had an effect on Superman, but only in the sense that it helped them finally make the decision. It didn't suddenly change their minds.

[Andy C.]

That wasn't him? Damn. I know he did the remake of Dawn of the Dead, and thought Slither was from the same crew. My bad.

[Showtime]

Yes and no. Speculation on my part but i think that if you're talking about small budget numbers ( say in the area of 10-90 million) then yes , the studio don't look at foreign numbers. Often the movie can make make enough money based on the domestic sales alone ( theatrical prints /dvd /rental).

Becomes a different thing when your talking about massive budgets. 150 million and higher . The studios are definately looking at the foreign numbers because those are important for the studio to break even/make a pofit. If that weren't the case , i doubt we'd be seeing budgets of 256 million for spider-man 3 and 300 million for POTC 3.

However i will agree with you that the domestic numbers do play a important part when studios decide if they want to continue with a franchise or not. Look at Golden Compass. The movie bombed in the US but was a hit in foreign markets. Ultimately the movie made back ít's budget. WIll the studio consider making a sequel. Doubtful.

It also depends on the film or franchise. A franchise like Bond is expected to play well overseas because the character is more of a WW character rather then just an American character. I'm not saying that studios don't appreciate, want, or need a movie to perform well overseas. Of course they make money off it, and DVD Sales & Rentals are more important then ever. Not to mention TV Sales/Rights as Antonello pointed to, and merchandising. It is more of an appearance factor. If a movie isn't even making it's budget back domestically, it is going to be tough for a studio to justify greenlighting a sequel or calling it a complete success.

Superman Returns was supposed to get a sequel up to a couple of months ago, when Robinov saw the numbers from "The Dark Knight" and thought that a Superman movie should make those same numbers.Someone should explain to him that not all the superhero movies could reach those peaks and that the movie was not that successful simply because it was dark.Anyway SR surely turned a profit that WB had to share with Legendary and Singer. For the next movie, I'm sure they'll try to make a different kind of deal with the new director.I have the strong suspicion that they're making things difficult for Singer because they don't want to pay his share as a director in a new movie.

Actually, I can't argue with what you are saying here. You're not far off from what happened and not far off from what is going to happen.

[Project862006]

what about Peter Berg he has made :

The Kingdom
Hancock
Friday Night Lights
The Rundown

or Doug Liman who has done:

Bourne Identity
Mr. and Ms. Smith
Jumper

[dark_b]

Have you seen it recently?2 years ago. it was not the perfect movie but it was an americna summer popcorn mvoie with a huge monster. the effects were amazing.
i watch a lot of movies and i know when what to expect.

[Sam]

Maybe the "Big Action Director" Millar said are Wachowski Brothers?

First, they are big action directors, period.
Second, they have a huge reputation at Warner.
Third, they are big comics fans.
Fourth, if Millar say "directors" would be very easy to find out who they are.

Maybe a possibility?

Considering, of course, that everything Millar said are actually happening.

[Zephyr Alexian]

edit:^You have a very good point. They could do a fantastic job.

*fingers crossed for James Cameron*:)

:o Hell have finished Avatar and doesn't have any other pressing commitments. It's a long shot, but here's to hoping. I think he would also enjoy the challenge of creating another great film courtesy of one of the most universal characters: Superman.

[bgshw44]

its amazing that if SR performed, we would be getting a trailer to MOS soon insted of talking about this!

[matrix_ghost]

edit:^You have a very good point. They could do a fantastic job.

*fingers crossed for James Cameron*:)

:o Hell have finished Avatar and doesn't have any other pressing commitments. It's a long shot, but here's to hoping. I think he would also enjoy the challenge of creating another great film courtesy of one of the most universal characters: Superman.

You can forget Cameron directing the next superman movie. Not saying that he wouldn't direct A superman movie (maybe in the future who knows) but definately not the next superman movie(s).

Cameron has said that once he finishes Avatar , he'll begin work on Battle Angel. Everyone ( including Cameron) is hoping that both movies do well because they are part of a trilogy. Meaning that Cameron will finish the avatar and Battle Angel trilogies and only after that can we start thinking of him maybe directing a superman movie. James Cameron for a superman movie ? Not for another 10-15 years

[matrix_ghost]

what about Peter Berg he has made :

The Kingdom
Hancock
Friday Night Lights
The Rundown

or Doug Liman who has done:

Bourne Identity
Mr. and Ms. Smith
Jumper


Peter BErg is a capable director. As long as he holds the camera still and doesn't use it for MTV editing :o.
Also doesn't Doug Liaman have a reputation of being a difficult director to work with :huh:

[matrix_ghost]

Maybe the "Big Action Director" Millar said are Wachowski Brothers?

First, they are big action directors, period.
Second, they have a huge reputation at Warner.
Third, they are big comics fans.
Fourth, if Millar say "directors" would be very easy to find out who they are.

Maybe a possibility?

Considering, of course, that everything Millar said are actually happening.

:woot:
My dream directors

Edit :
Exactly when did he say directors ?
I've been googling but haven't found anything

[Antonello Blueberry]

Peter BErg is a capable director. As long as he holds the camera still and doesn't use it for MTV editing :o.
Also doesn't Doug Liaman have a reputation of being a difficult director to work with :huh:
Yes, Liman has a bad reputation because of his "indie" approach to the big budget movies. Lots of improvisation on set, which sometimes causes delays.

[dark_b]

You can forget Cameron directing the next superman movie. Not saying that he wouldn't direct A superman movie (maybe in the future who knows) but definately not the next superman movie(s).

Cameron has said that once he finishes Avatar , he'll begin work on Battle Angel. Everyone ( including Cameron) is hoping that both movies do well because they are part of a trilogy. Meaning that Cameron will finish the avatar and Battle Angel trilogies and only after that can we start thinking of him maybe directing a superman movie. James Cameron for a superman movie ? Not for another 10-15 yearshe would have demands for a superman movie. he would not take a script from WB and make a movie. he would want to use hes own ideas.

but if he would do it we would get groundbreakign effects with 200% photosorealistic superman with groudnbreaking action.
just groundbreaking. but if he would look like superman and act like him.....thats the question.

[matrix_ghost]

he would have demands for a superman movie. he would not take a script from WB and make a movie. he would want to use hes own ideas.
True. As far as i know James Cameron has written the scripts for all of his movies. For True Lies there were two other guys who came up with the story . It was James who took those ideas and wrote the screenplay.

It would be the case of Chris and Jonah Nolan working with Daid Goyer. Goyer comes up with the story and Chris and Jonah write the script and adding-removing their own ideas.
Someone could come up with the story and Cameron would continue to write the script.



but if he would do it we would get groundbreakign effects with 200% photosorealistic superman with groudnbreaking action.
just groundbreaking. but if he would look like superman and act like him.....thats the question.
Heh .
I doubt if we can see anything that´s more groundbreaking that a truly photorealistic CG human. As much as i want to see Avatar , i´m more interested in Batte Angel. If he can make the CG character truly photorealistic with a workable budget , then i´d definately want to see his version of superman.
At least we know he´ll be a truly masculine guy and not metrosexual hero :oldrazz:

[matrix_ghost]

Yes, Liman has a bad reputation because of his "indie" approach to the big budget movies. Lots of improvisation on set, which sometimes causes delays.


Dunno if the studio would want delays for a 200 million blockbusters :cwink:

[Sam]

:woot:
My dream directors

Edit :
Exactly when did he say directors ?
I've been googling but haven't found anything

Never. He said director (singular). My point was, if Millar says directors (plural), would be very wasy to find out who they are.

[dark_b]

True. As far as i know James Cameron has written the scripts for all of his movies. For True Lies there were two other guys who came up with the story . It was James who took those ideas and wrote the screenplay.

It would be the case of Chris and Jonah Nolan working with Daid Goyer. Goyer comes up with the story and Chris and Jonah write the script and adding-removing their own ideas.
Someone could come up with the story and Cameron would continue to write the script.



Heh .
I doubt if we can see anything that´s more groundbreaking that a truly photorealistic CG human. As much as i want to see Avatar , i´m more interested in Batte Angel. If he can make the CG character truly photorealistic with a workable budget , then i´d definately want to see his version of superman.
At least we know he´ll be a truly masculine guy and not metrosexual hero :oldrazz:well 100% realistic humans are already in the box. the new lightstage from debevec uses cameras to make a 3D face. then he makes big normal maps from 100% detailed texture.
its there. with a combination of the new face tracking tecniques you can do a lot with 150 milions. of course the paycheck for adirector like him would be godzilla.

[Dark Knight]

Didn't Berg direct Master and Commander as well?

[dark_b]

Didn't Berg direct Master and Commander as well?3 seconds. this is the time to find out if it is true or not. just copy/pasted the title in google. enter. IMDB. it was very fast.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Didn't Berg direct Master and Commander as well?

Nope. The correct answer is Peter Weir.

[Dark Knight]

Nope. The correct answer is Peter Weir.



Yeah I found it on IMDB....

WB's needs to go for Ridley Scott to direct the reboot Superman film. He is the right director for the job.

[FilmNerdJamie]

WB's needs to go for Ridley Scott to direct the reboot Superman film. He is the right director for the job.

Just because he's helmed some great films over the years doesn't automatically mean Scott is the "right" guy for Superman. :whatever:

[Dark Knight]

Just because he's helmed some great films over the years doesn't automatically mean Scott is the "right" guy for Superman. :whatever:



Give the man a solid script and story with epic action involved....and I will GUARANTEE he would deliver! : P

[FilmNerdJamie]

Give the man a solid script and story with epic action involved....and I will GUARANTEE he would deliver! : P

Actually, you can't. :whatever:

It boils down the right director gelling with the material/approach. The most recent example would be...you guessed it...Jon Favreau on Iron Man.

[Dark Knight]

Actually, you can't. :whatever:

It boils down the right director gelling with the material/approach. The most recent example would be...you guessed it...Jon Favreau on Iron Man.



Exactly....just like you can't say that Ridley wouldn't do a good job.

It's all subjective....WB's needs to aim high for a Superman director and work there way down from there IMO.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Exactly....just like you can't say that Ridley wouldn't do a good job.

I'm not the one who said Scott was the "right director" for it to begin with.

Your logic is basically "Well...he's done big epic films before. Thus he's perfect for Superman because it's big and epic!" That's the same as saying "Well...I love to eat out. Thus I should own a restaurant!" :whatever:

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm not the one who said Scott was the "right director" for it to begin with.

Your logic is basically "Well...he's done big epic films before. Thus he's perfect for Superman because it's big and epic!" That's the same as saying "Well...I love to eat out. Thus I should own a restaurant!" :whatever::hehe:

[matrix_ghost]

well 100% realistic humans are already in the box. the new lightstage from debevec uses cameras to make a 3D face. then he makes big normal maps from 100% detailed texture.
its there. with a combination of the new face tracking tecniques you can do a lot with 150 milions. of course the paycheck for adirector like him would be godzilla.

I know a photorealistic human can be created. Heck i saw it with Matrix 2 and 3 ( i''m biased:oldrazz:) , Superman and Spiderman. That is until you see the characters starting to move.
I have yet to see a CG human actually doing all these superhuman feats but still be able to look human. That's the tricky thing IMO.
And even then there are some odd shots when the characters just give away that they are CG.

That's why i wanna see Battle Angel. The fact that Cameron is creating a CG human for the character just shows where he wants to go. IF he can pull it off , i'd be very interested to see how his superman would look like. Hell i'd wouldn't be surprised if more studios would use his technology to create these CG humans.

[matrix_ghost]

Give the man a solid script and story with epic action involved....and I will GUARANTEE he would deliver! : P

Really ? :huh:
Explain .

I have to agree with FilmnerdJamie on this. JUst how do we know that Ridley Scott is the right man ? Or Peter Jackson ? Or Spielberg ? Based on their movies ? Sure , if you're talking about spectacle in their previous movies . But who can say that these guys are passionate about the source material ? For all we know they just aren't interested in making a superhero movie. To them it would just be them sitting there , making a (good) movie just for a nice paycheck.
Where would that leave us with our casting choices ?
Then again look at some of the directors like Chris NOlan , Jon Favreau and Sam Raimi. They all made very respectable comic book movies ( well maybe not Sam Raimi :oldrazz:). These guys were passionate about their respective movies but at the same time their movies never showed that they met the fanboy-criteria everybody is using when sayin that guys like spielberg anf cameron should direct a comic book movie.

I'll agree with you that Ridley Scott is a very visionary director. But he himself has admitted that one of his problems is that he spends more time with the art-direction then the directing of actors. He believes that an actor must understand a role , which is why he's appearing in his movie. HOwever even actors need guidance , especially young untested newbies.Harrison Ford complained that Ridley Scott didn't direct him in Blade Runner. Which probably explains why Ridley Scott often uses big name actors for his movies. So who can guarantee me that ridley Scott won't have problems directing the unkown actor playing superman ?

Maybe we could get a big name actor for the role of superman like say Leo Di Caprio . Again the question that rises is this
Just who are we watching ? Leo as Superman or Superman as Leo.
Especially with known comic book characters , i feel that you should watch a movie and this "wow superman is up there " and not some actor.

[Zephyr Alexian]

Over at AICN, Moriarty thinks that the Cohen Brothers should get a shot at directing this film. That's an interesting choice.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It's a bad choice IMHO.

[Zephyr Alexian]

I'm not sure; I'd love to see a Superman film with the level of intensity that they bring to their projects, but they may steer too far away from the character roots.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^Which is way they are a bad choice. They would never just add there style and voice to a Superman movie, they would make a Coen Bro's Superman movie.

I'm probably going to get killed for this but I don't love the Coens as much as other people do. Millars Crossing was the bomb and No Country was very good but I didn't "get" Fargo. My sister recomended Fargo so I guess she loved it but I haven't exactly told her my feelings on it because I don't want to get into with her lol.

[Dark Knight]

Over at AICN, Moriarty thinks that the Cohen Brothers should get a shot at directing this film. That's an interesting choice.



Yes, we have already discussed this and Moriarty is just reaching IMO, with him going that route.

[Dark Knight]

I'm not the one who said Scott was the "right director" for it to begin with.

Your logic is basically "Well...he's done big epic films before. Thus he's perfect for Superman because it's big and epic!" That's the same as saying "Well...I love to eat out. Thus I should own a restaurant!" :whatever:



Like I said before....give Ridley Scott a 170 million dollar budget with story elements from Birthright, Superman for All Seasons, Geoff Johns Action Comics Braniac arc with some elements of Abrams Flyby.....and the man WILL deliver. He would attract a solid cast and the film would turn a nice profit and have definite re watch value. It would have its' fun moments with riveting instensity and epic action. Ridley Scott is also a studio type of director and I'm sure he has a great working relationship with WB's. He is a far better choice than Bay that is for certain.

Thats the man for the job IMO.

Which director do you have confidence in to deliver an overall GREAT Superman film?

[Dark Knight]

Just because he's helmed some great films over the years doesn't automatically mean Scott is the "right" guy for Superman. :whatever:



Yeah well, WB's would never know unless they try....

[kalelkilla]

Can you imagine if Peter Jackson got his hands on Brainiac or Darkseid? The creations that would come from that man would be awesome to see...as far as alien technology and other creatures. He loves creating creepy creatures in his films with their own back story. Just watch any of the DVDs of his movies. The man is nearly insane. I think the detail and the passion that needs to be instilled in a Superman can come from Peter Jackson alone...Superman is a comic, e, but it is also a sci-fi/fantasy film...and there is no one better than PJ.

[Thespiralgoeson]

Like I said before....give Ridley Scott a 170 million dollar budget with story elements from Birthright, Superman for All Seasons, Geoff Johns Action Comics Braniac arc with some elements of Abrams Flyby.....and the man WILL deliver. He would attract a solid cast and the film would turn a nice profit and have definite re watch value. It would have its' fun moments with riveting instensity and epic action. Ridley Scott is also a studio type of director and I'm sure he has a great working relationship with WB's. He is a far better choice than Bay that is for certain.

Thats the man for the job IMO.

Which director do you have confidence in to deliver an overall GREAT Superman film?

Sir Ridley is one of my favorite filmmakers, but I'm not sure he would be a good fit for superman. Scott hand-picks all of his projects and is usually the creative force behind them from start to finish. I seriously doubt he would be interested in helming a big franchise in which he would have to conceid a great deal of creative control to the studio. Considering that he is 70 years old and in the twighlight of his film career, I can't imagine he would have any desire to take on such a massive project. I also doubt that he would have any interest in directing a Superman movie regardless just based on the material. At this point in his career, I think he probably only wants projects that he has total control over and material that is at least somewhat personal to him.

My first choice for Superman has always been Spielberg although I know it will never happen (has he ever even worked with WB, or is he exclusive to Universal/Dreamworks?) Cameron is my second choice. He's a longshot too, albeit not so much as Spielberg.

[dark_b]

well those big directors dont want to make a franchise. maybe this is who singer thinks he is. maybe he wanted to go slow with superman.
maybe a small director like IM is really the way to go.

[Maze]

Is Roland Emmerich being considered as director of the next Superman movie?

http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/2008/10/is-roland-emmerich-being-consi.html

[Showtime]

Heh Heh.

[NotFadeAway]

Can you imagine if Peter Jackson got his hands on Brainiac or Darkseid? The creations that would come from that man would be awesome to see...as far as alien technology and other creatures. He loves creating creepy creatures in his films with their own back story. Just watch any of the DVDs of his movies. The man is nearly insane. I think the detail and the passion that needs to be instilled in a Superman can come from Peter Jackson alone...Superman is a comic, e, but it is also a sci-fi/fantasy film...and there is no one better than PJ.

Jackson is perfect in every way for Superman.

[daywalker2007]

if they really want to make superman into a great franchise,

they need to make this new story into a sci fi epic with serious characters and stories.

the best bits of the Donner movie's are the Krypton scenes, very serious stuff, with top notch acting.

Something similar along those lines, with a decent cast, and no campiness.

To be honest, the next superman movie should take a look at how the original Blade movie makes a superhero work in the sort of realistic world.

That movie has no camp in it whatsoever. Superman needs to like that.
No Camp, just straight up serious story telling and great action.

And some great music wouldn't be too bad either.

[Antonello Blueberry]

Heh Heh.
What rumor are we going to start now?
Paul Dano as Jimmy Olsen?
Steve Carrell as Lex Luthor as part of his new contract with WB?

[GreenKToo]

I know. Jack Black as Superman, Drew Carey as Lex, and George Lucas Directing....heh.

[Showtime]

What rumor are we going to start now? Paul Dano as Jimmy Olsen? Steve Carrell as Lex Luthor as part of his new contract with WB?

Heh Heh.

X-Maniac runs that blog, and does a great job with it. I am always reading his postings. However, with all due respect to Echostation who brought forth the rumor, this seems pretty outrageous. Have stranger things happened? Sure.

I'm surpised X-Maniac ran with it, but that is what he does, he runs with both news and rumors, but he does the right thing and lets the reader knows they are in fact rumors.

[Thespiralgoeson]

well those big directors dont want to make a franchise.

Hence them being longshots.

[Thespiralgoeson]

Ugh, Emmerich would be worse than Bay. No thanks.

[BULLITT]

Thats it!

Zack Snyder for Superman!

NOW!
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a310/BRIANBORU/smgay.gif

[kalelkilla]

Peter Jackson. There is no better choice. He has proven time and time again that he can make epic sci/fi fantasy movies with huge budgets...just let him do whatever the hell he wants...

[Sam]

hm.. Peter Jackson will never be part of this movie.

[hippie_hunter]

Exactly....just like you can't say that Ridley wouldn't do a good job.

It's all subjective....WB's needs to aim high for a Superman director and work there way down from there IMO.

WB doesn't need to aim high for a Superman director. It just needs the right director.

Not someone like Zack Snyder and Ridley Scott just because their big names but someone like Christopher Nolan (Momento, Insomnia) was for Batman, Sam Raimi (Evil Dead, Darkman, the Gift) was for Spider-Man, and Jon Favreau (Elf, Zathura) was for Iron Man.

Not only that but Zack Snyder is completely wrong for a film like Superman. The statements he made on why he turned down the directoral role shows that not only is he the wrong man for the job, but he knows that he is. And frankly something about Ridley Scott just doesn't seem right for the job. Plus he is way too busy to take on Superman with Nottingham, Tripoli, Brave New World, Factor X, and the Forever War.