View Full Version : I think I have decided
Malice
01-25-2008, 08:41 AM
I have been looking at all the options....
McCain, althought I like him....he is a little on the old side and he is a little to liberal on many of his views for me...he is out.
Huckabee, not that I am anti-religion, I am personally not religious, and being a preacher, is a part of him. Someone separating that from his decision is a concern. Plus, I dont think he has any real foreign policy....he is out
Guiliani, he is way to soft on immigration and having been married 47 times doesnt honestly show any sort of longterm devotion....he is out
Romney, I honestly dont have a problem with his religion, doesnt bother me, unless he was a Satanist....he is goot with finance, he is by far the most intelligent when it comes to the numbers, and we really just might need that in the upcoming year. The rest he is ok
...so Romney it is
StorminNorman
01-25-2008, 12:11 PM
:up:
Malice, I believe that Romney is a good choice. I would vote for him definately if he were the the Nom. I on the other hand still plan on voting for Huckabee in the Primary next week, mostly because of his Tax Plan. But, I wholeheartedly would support Romney for President, even though I don't like he has stated he hasn't "Had Time" to review the Fairtax.
I don't like any of the Democrat candidates outside of Edwards (who has zero chance of winning). McCain comes off as too much of a lap dog for me...and I am nervous that he is bound to pick an extremist conservative, Bush-esque running mate, to balance his ticket...and I honestly don't think he will make it past his first term. He ain't getting younger. Huckabee seems nice on the surface, but some of the comments I've read from him scare me.
That leaves me with Romney. He is definitely the smartest of the bunch. And while he comes off as a smug prick, I don't think he will **** things up too badly. I only see any of these candidates being one term presidents. I feel like Romney is the best suited. I'll vote for him if he gets the nomination. Unless Bloomberg runs third party.
Malice
01-25-2008, 12:23 PM
One thing I hate about Romney is his damn plastic hair!
cookiva
01-25-2008, 01:07 PM
Pretty sure Im voting 3rd party as soon as more info comes out about the candidates.
wiegeabo
01-25-2008, 01:11 PM
I have yet to vote for anyone but third party.
StorminNorman
01-25-2008, 01:23 PM
One thing I hate about Romney is his damn plastic hair!
Its thick, like mutton.
Genesis 1.0
01-25-2008, 02:48 PM
Since I don't see Huck getting the Nom., I'm fine with voting for Romney as well. If McCain were a little younger and more flexible, he'd have my vote.
Since I don't see Huck getting the Nom., I'm fine with voting for Romney as well. If McCain were a little younger and more flexible, he'd have my vote.
I have one question for you.
Does Huckabee represent more of your political leanings, or are you just wanting to vote for the winner?
I plan on voting for Huckabee, even though it is more than likely going to go to McCain or Romney (Florida that is) but, if Huckabee the most part represents for my ideals, that is the person that is going to be getting my vote, because if I was going to just for a winner, then it doesn't matter who I vote for. Because at least the person that best represents me gets that extra nod, and hopefully the Media and the rest of the Republican Party can see that in the end, it was a vote for a set of beliefs.
The only wasted vote is the one not cast.
wiegeabo
01-25-2008, 03:46 PM
The only wasted vote is the one not cast.
:up:
cookiva
01-25-2008, 03:48 PM
The only wasted vote is the vote for Duncan Hunter.
The remarkable thing about this Republican race is, there is no such thing as a wasted vote. For the Democrats, any vote thats not for Obama or Clinton are essentially wasted. But with this Republican race...it looks like it could be a 3 way race (Romney, McCain, Huckabee) past Super Tuesday, all the way until the end. Maybe even coming down to the convention itself. Hell, if Rudy manages to pull the upset in Florida, it could be a 4 way race. It is actually really exciting to watch.
Malice
01-25-2008, 04:01 PM
Yeah its actually quite exciting.
The remarkable thing about this Republican race is, there is no such thing as a wasted vote. For the Democrats, any vote thats not for Obama or Clinton are essentially wasted. But with this Republican race...it looks like it could be a 3 way race (Romney, McCain, Huckabee) past Super Tuesday, all the way until the end. Maybe even coming down to the convention itself. Hell, if Rudy manages to pull the upset in Florida, it could be a 4 way race. It is actually really exciting to watch.
Actually, in the Dems case, you can't quite say that either. If more people didn't just Support Obama or Clinton just because it was the thing to do, and actually put their votes in a candidate like Richardson, the race would be comepletely different.
If someone appeals to what you like in a represtative, vote for them, no matter who.
cookiva
01-25-2008, 04:12 PM
Actually, in the Dems case, you can't quite say that either. If more people didn't just Support Obama or Clinton just because it was the thing to do, and actually put their votes in a candidate like Richardson, the race would be comepletely different.
If someone appeals to what you like in a represtative, vote for them, no matter who.
In Iowa/NH, yes, but now, its a wasted vote. Edwards is a lost cause, which is why he is hugging Clinton all the time, and who else is there? Gravel?
rdh007
01-25-2008, 04:22 PM
I've said it before, but this thread seems worthy to say it in again. As opposite my views are to Romney's (whose dad was twice the man he'll ever be on the issues to begin with, which seems to be a prevalent theme); he seems like the least whacked out Repuglican.
bell110
01-25-2008, 05:24 PM
The remarkable thing about this Republican race is, there is no such thing as a wasted vote. For the Democrats, any vote thats not for Obama or Clinton are essentially wasted. But with this Republican race...it looks like it could be a 3 way race (Romney, McCain, Huckabee) past Super Tuesday, all the way until the end. Maybe even coming down to the convention itself. Hell, if Rudy manages to pull the upset in Florida, it could be a 4 way race. It is actually really exciting to watch.
I disagree. There is no such thing as a "wasted vote". Actually, if you wanted to vote for Edward, but voted for Obama or Clinton instead, because they are the front runners, THAT would be a wasted vote.
With that said, Paul all the way. :up: :yay:
hippie_hunter
01-25-2008, 07:36 PM
One thing I hate about Romney is his damn plastic hair!
That's the only thing I praise Romney. His hair is just so perfect :csad:
Arkady Rossovich
01-25-2008, 09:26 PM
I don't know why anyone would vote for Republicans,seeing as how they made America what it is now.
StorminNorman
01-25-2008, 09:54 PM
I don't know why anyone would vote for Republicans,seeing as how they made America what it is now.
Because some people ARE rational.
wiegeabo
01-25-2008, 09:58 PM
Because some people ARE rational.
But that doesn't answer the question. :p
But that doesn't answer the question. :p
Just because a small group of Republicans who were/are in power are bad, doesn't mean they all are. There are many corrupt Democrats too.
hippie_hunter
01-25-2008, 10:42 PM
I don't know why anyone would vote for Republicans,seeing as how they made America what it is now.
Not all Republicans are corrupt asshats. Corruption and incompetence is something that plagues all political parties around the world. And it's not just the Republicans fault either, the Democrats too have to share the blame because a lot of Democrats approved of George Bush's war in Iraq, reauthorized the PATRIOT Act, allowed the fiscal irreponsibility to continue, and pretty much just played the blame game instead of actually doing something to actually counter the Republicans.
wiegeabo
01-25-2008, 11:08 PM
Just because a small group of Republicans who were/are in power are bad, doesn't mean they all are. There are many corrupt Democrats too.
Oh, I agree. That's why I usually vote third party. At least they haven't proven they're corrupt yet. Mostly.
It's why, unlike most people who seem to blindly throw in with their party, I vote on issues and what people say. With the exception of President, I've voted for a number of parties, including the big two. I'm willing to vote for a Republican (I tend to side with them economically) or a Democrat (I tend to side with them on social issues). As well as Libertarian, Green, Reform, Independent, and I think I even voted for a Natural Law once. I just hate blanket statements that say one party or the other is corrupt, or that one party or the other is the only party that does things right.
Well, in all fairness, the only reason third party officials do not appear corrupt is because they do not have the power to be. Major campaign donors have no desire to give them money as they have no chance of winning, and they don't win 9/10 times so they have no power. Its not the party or even the person that creates corruption. The system does, in my opinion.
hippie_hunter
01-25-2008, 11:23 PM
I don't think the system creates corruption. If a politician allows the system to get into their head as if they're above it, it's still their weakness.
I think the problem is, special interest lobbies have become a part of the system as opposed to those trying to manipulate the system (its a subtle difference). And once they weaseled their way into the system, it became inherrently corrupt. Granted, some of it is weakness on the part of the politican...but now-a-days, because of what I said above, unless you are willing to play by their rules...you will be a one term-er and then gotten rid of. So you say "I'll play ball, just to be able to make a difference." but you inevitably get sucked in.
hippie_hunter
01-25-2008, 11:37 PM
I have a question for Malice, just what makes McCain too liberal in your eyes?
The Senator
01-25-2008, 11:38 PM
I think Matt makes a good point. But I think politicians inevitably become corrupted by the system. That doesn't necessarily make them corrupt.
Also, just because a politician caters to certain special interests, that doesn't mean their constituents oppose that. Having worked in a couple Congressional offices, I've fielded calls from many who want so-and-so to support such-and-such an agency, and they do threaten to pull their support if that politician doesn't support them. That's just how it is.
I think the problem is, special interest lobbies have become a part of the system as opposed to those trying to manipulate the system (its a subtle difference). And once they weaseled their way into the system, it became inherrently corrupt. Granted, some of it is weakness on the part of the politican...but now-a-days, because of what I said above, unless you are willing to play by their rules...you will be a one term-er and then gotten rid of. So you say "I'll play ball, just to be able to make a difference." but you inevitably get sucked in.
I agree with that 100%. Now only if we can come up with a system that would get rid of the lobbyists :whatever:
FairTax
The Senator
01-25-2008, 11:48 PM
^^They'll still exist even with the FairTax
Lobbyists will never go away. Even after a nuclear holocaust, they'll still exist, lobbying the cockroaches.
Here is an honest to God, 100 % true fact.
Fairtax
kicked both Chuck Norris and Jack Bauer's asses...at the same time. :wow:
hippie_hunter
01-26-2008, 01:53 AM
What about Christian Bale's?
Addendum
01-26-2008, 02:23 AM
Huckabee will never get my vote because of this quote of his
"I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution, But I believe it's a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living god. And that's what we need to do -- to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards so it lines up with some contemporary view."
I will never vote for a candidate that wants a theocracy
rdh007
01-26-2008, 09:32 AM
Here is an honest to God, 100 % true fact.
Fairtax
kicked both Chuck Norris and Jack Bauer's asses...at the same time. :wow:
Then, Bob Sanders came to the party and pwned
FairTax
...without pads.
rdh007
01-26-2008, 09:32 AM
Huckabee will never get my vote because of this quote of his
I will never vote for a candidate that wants a theocracy
This is exactly why Pastor Chuckleberry is my least favorite Rapeublican. That quote.
^^They'll still exist even with the FairTax
Lobbyists will never go away. Even after a nuclear holocaust, they'll still exist, lobbying the cockroaches.
If we had a Fairtax, the TAX lobbyists would have no reason to be in Washington. Now, you would still have the other kind of lobbyists, but not Corporate Tax Lobbyists. Everything would be Taxed equally, no exemptions, no body to fight for their Corporation's benifits.
Yeah FAIRTAX!
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