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\S/JcDc\S/
01-26-2008, 12:54 PM
I am assuming that since Bill served his 2 terms as President he wouldn't be able to be a VP due to that being direct succesion to the presidency. Logically anyways I think that would be right. However, if it were possible do you think he would make a good running mate for Hillary?

The Senator
01-26-2008, 12:58 PM
It isn't possible.

The Constitution forbids a President from serving more than two terms. If he was Vice President, he would be in a position to take over the Presidency.

But IF it could happen, I would be opposed to it. I think Evan Bayh or Bill Nelson would make better VPs than Bill.

\S/JcDc\S/
01-26-2008, 12:59 PM
It isn't possible.

The Constitution forbids a President from serving more than two terms. If he was Vice President, he would be in a position to take over the Presidency.

I said that in the thread did you read? lol

The Senator
01-26-2008, 01:00 PM
I clicked submit before I was ready. Read my edited post.

\S/JcDc\S/
01-26-2008, 01:02 PM
Ah I see, no worries. I'm really curious who the running mates are going to end up being for all the candidates really.

The Senator
01-26-2008, 01:08 PM
Hillary will pick a popular, experienced politician from a swing state.

I think Indiana Senator Evan Bayh, Florida Senator Bill Nelson, Montana Governor Brian Schweitzer, North Carolina Governor Mike Easley, or Tennessee Governor Phil Bredesen are her most likely choices.

There's also a rumor that she's been courting New Jersey Senator Bob Menendez, but that would be a foolish mistake on her part-- one which I doubt she'd be stupid enough to make.

\S/JcDc\S/
01-26-2008, 01:11 PM
Florida Senator Bill Nelson would be an interesting choice :up:

The Senator
01-26-2008, 01:31 PM
I think Brian Schweitzer would be her best option, though he wouldn't bring the amount of electoral votes Bill Nelson or Evan Bayh could bring to the table:

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hippie_hunter
01-26-2008, 03:28 PM
Hillary will pick a popular, experienced politician from a swing state.

I think Indiana Senator Evan Bayh, Florida Senator Bill Nelson, Montana Governor Brian Schweitzer, North Carolina Governor Mike Easley, or Tennessee Governor Phil Bredesen are her most likely choices.

There's also a rumor that she's been courting New Jersey Senator Bob Menendez, but that would be a foolish mistake on her part-- one which I doubt she'd be stupid enough to make.

I think Wesley Clark is going to get whatever post he wants in a Clinton Administration, either vice-president or Secretary of Defense.

The Senator
01-26-2008, 09:32 PM
I don't think he will get the VP job. She will want someone who can guarantee a vital swing state (Bayh, Nelson, Easley) or a specific region (Schweitzer). She wins Arkansas against every candidate (except Huckabee) by 10-20%... so in theory, it would be foolish for her to select someone who won't bring her an extra 10-15 electoral votes.

Clark is probably the best choice for Secretary of Defense. Tom Vilsack will probably be up for Energy Secretary, and either Bill Richardson or Joe Biden will have Secretary of State.

Matt
01-26-2008, 09:56 PM
I don't think he will get the VP job. She will want someone who can guarantee a vital swing state (Bayh, Nelson, Easley) or a specific region (Schweitzer). She wins Arkansas against every candidate (except Huckabee) by 10-20%... so in theory, it would be foolish for her to select someone who won't bring her an extra 10-15 electoral votes.

Clark is probably the best choice for Secretary of Defense. Tom Vilsack will probably be up for Energy Secretary, and either Bill Richardson or Joe Biden will have Secretary of State.

Don't be so sure about Clark not getting the VP. Especially if she is up against McCain as he will be a good running mate since she will be running against the "war hero." Also, I can't help but think John Edwards' staying in the race is not coincidential. Both he and Hillary know that his staying in the race is taking votes away from Obama. I am forced to wonder if Edwards has been promised a position, possibly VP.

As for Richardson, I figured he would have the secretary of state position locked up being as he used to be in Bill's cabinet and was always a friend to the Clintons...but then he gave his Iowa delegates to Obama. So who knows?

rdh007
01-26-2008, 09:59 PM
Don't be so sure about Clark not getting the VP. Especially if she is up against McCain as he will be a good running mate since she will be running against the "war hero." Also, I can't help but think John Edwards' staying in the race is not coincidential. Both he and Hillary know that his staying in the race is taking votes away from Obama. I am forced to wonder if Edwards has been promised a position, possibly VP.

That may just be it. "If I'm up against Romney, Giuliani or Pastor Chuckleberry, you've got it Sparky. But if McCain wins, say hello to the AG spot, 'cause Wes is my man."

Matt
01-26-2008, 10:04 PM
That may just be it. "If I'm up against Romney, Giuliani or Pastor Chuckleberry, you've got it Sparky. But if McCain wins, say hello to the AG spot, 'cause Wes is my man."

I think that may be a likely scenario.

Also, to answer the original question of this thread...

I see no reason that Bill could not be VP. I mean, technically there is nothing in the Constitution that says he could not. However, he could only assume the presidency though, if Hillary died over 2 years into her term. I believe that a VP who becomes President can serve 2 full terms, if they only served 2 years of the previous president's term. So yeah...he would be a rather useless VP, but what VP isn't?

Still, I think Bill wants to be our delegate to the UN or NATO and is counting on that position if Hillary wins. Afterall, he tried kissing Bush's ass with all that "bi-partisan" fund raising with Ol' Man Bush, in order to get one of those spots...but nothin' was going.

rdh007
01-26-2008, 10:28 PM
I see no reason that Bill could not be VP. I mean, technically there is nothing in the Constitution that says he could not. However, he could only assume the presidency though, if Hillary died over 2 years into her term. I believe that a VP who becomes President can serve 2 full terms, if they only served 2 years of the previous president's term. So yeah...he would be a rather useless VP, but what VP isn't?

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Lobo
01-26-2008, 11:53 PM
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\S/JcDc\S/
01-27-2008, 12:02 AM
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Not exactly a new comparison but yeah love Conan anyways ;)

Damiean Dark
01-27-2008, 01:59 AM
When/if Obama realises he cant beat hilary she should try to get him as VP i still think obama is too green for president but 4/8 years in the white house would set him up perfectly for 2012/2016.

The Senator
01-27-2008, 11:53 AM
When/if Obama realises he cant beat hilary she should try to get him as VP i still think obama is too green for president but 4/8 years in the white house would set him up perfectly for 2012/2016.

There have been rumblings from both campaigns that this is a possibility. I wouldn't rule it out, especially since the two have apparently divided the party over the past few months. If Obama loses, one of the best things Clinton could do is offer him a spot as VP.

A lot of people will rule this out, but, it's common practice to award the second-place spot to the second-place finisher. Not only that, but what does she have to lose? If she's as "unelectable" as some people feel, then why not put everything on the line?

Matt
01-27-2008, 12:42 PM
There have been rumblings from both campaigns that this is a possibility. I wouldn't rule it out, especially since the two have apparently divided the party over the past few months. If Obama loses, one of the best things Clinton could do is offer him a spot as VP.

A lot of people will rule this out, but, it's common practice to award the second-place spot to the second-place finisher. Not only that, but what does she have to lose? If she's as "unelectable" as some people feel, then why not put everything on the line?

I believe that giving Obama the VP nomination would essentially lead to the same thing that happened with KErry. Kerry tried to win the election using Howard Dean's 13 state strategy (capture 13 key states, win the election). It failed. The Democrats will need to get a few crucial southern and middle states to win. Hillary and Obama will be the ultimate yankee ticket. It will have little to no appeal to middle America.

Not to mention, it got way too dirty. All election season you will hear sound bites of Hillary Clinton's running mate insulting her and vice versa played by Republican pundits. It will be handing the election to the Republicans. If Hillary wants any shot at winning, her running mate has to be a southern, white, male with pull in the south (i.e. Not John Edwards who many southerners dislike). Someone like Mike Easely. Wesley Clark would be acceptable only if she is up against McCain as she needs someone to counter his "War hero" appeal.

Chris B
01-27-2008, 03:07 PM
I think a Hillary Administration would look something like this:

Vice President- Evan Bayh
Secretary of State- Joe Biden, Bill Richardson, or Richard Holbrook
Secretary of Defense- Wesley Clark
Attorney General- John Edwards
Secretary of Education or Agriculture- Tom Vilsack
Secretary of Homeland Security- Joe Lieberman

terry78
01-27-2008, 03:09 PM
I would love for Bill to be veep.

"Soulja, while Hillary is at that Annapolis conference, we gon' get it crunk up in this mutha****a, son!"

hippie_hunter
01-27-2008, 03:35 PM
I think a Hillary Administration would look something like this:

Vice President- Evan Bayh
Secretary of State- Joe Biden, Bill Richardson, or Richard Holbrook
Secretary of Defense- Wesley Clark
Attorney General- John Edwards
Secretary of Education or Agriculture- Tom Vilsack
Secretary of Homeland Security- Joe Lieberman

I don't think it'll end up like that. If McCain gets the nomination Clark will most likely get the VP position. I don't think she'll give Biden or Richardson the Secretary of State positions because of their support for Barack Obama in Iowa. And Joe Lieberman supports her most likely opponent John McCain.

The Senator
01-27-2008, 03:46 PM
Even if Biden's supporters went to Obama, chances are, Hillary would still pick him for Secretary of State. The man's been in line for the job since 2000, having been first the ranking member and then chairman of the Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs. Biden would be an ideal choice for the position, especially for her, not only because of his stance on certain issues such as Iran, but because he knows foreign policy.

Plus, cabinet positions don't work like the VP selection does. Just because you run against someone doesn't mean a deal won't be made. Biden may have given his supporters to Obama, but Biden wasn't a threat to her at all in the race, so that gives him a huge shot at going somewhere down the road. And if I remember correctly, he made very few shots at Clinton's record, nor did he outright attack her.

Also, Biden and Richardson's support for Obama in Iowa was assumed support. Neither one of them came out and said "throw your support for me behind Obama." If either one of them explicitly endorsed Obama for President, then I could see her forgoing both of them for the position.

But like I said, Biden is the man when it comes to foreign affairs. He's been running for Secretary of State longer than he has been running for President.

Matt
01-27-2008, 03:53 PM
I don't think Biden would accept the nomination to Secretary of State. I think he is happy where he is, as one of the most powerful members of the Senate if he can't have the presidency.

QueerMike
01-27-2008, 05:47 PM
It isn't possible.

The Constitution forbids a President from serving more than two terms. If he was Vice President, he would be in a position to take over the Presidency.

But IF it could happen, I would be opposed to it. I think Evan Bayh or Bill Nelson would make better VPs than Bill.

Nah, Bill is going to enjoy his time as First Lady.