Michael Jordan

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Yeah it's hard to see him at 45 and overweight but hey... He can still shoot :p

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Also remember the good ole' days in his prime.

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[CalebYourMaster]

Greatest Ever.

[Fran]

The best basketball player to ever play the game.

No questions asked.

[Ghostvirus]

Jesus I hate this prick. He is so overrated. Can't people just get over him already.:o




Seriously though. The man is the closest thing to god I have ever seen.

[Spiderine]

Greatest of all time.

[Jerry!]

Crappy quality, but this is one of my favorite Jordan moments. Out of nowhere he just flies into the screen.

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[SoulManX]

[quote=Ghostvirus;13919277]Jesus I hate this prick. He is so overrated. Can't people just get over him already.:o




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[Dedpool]

Greatest Ever.

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The best basketball player to ever play the game.

No questions asked.

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Greatest of all time.

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[Cmill216]

G.O.A.T :heart:

[Ghostvirus]

Crappy quality, but this is one of my favorite Jordan moments. Out of nowhere he just flies into the screen.

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The is one of my faves. It is like he just teleported to the basketball. Simply magical.:up:

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Even though I was joking. It was still hard for me to type.

[steintym]

The greatest player ever, no question about it. :up:

[SoulManX]

I must be the one guy on the planet that thinks he was way over rated...in the freakin 90's.

[Super_Ludacris]

He dont look overweight to me. Seems in decent shape for a retired 45 year old who is 6 years removed from the league

[steintym]

I must be the one guy on the planet that thinks he was way over rated...in the freakin 90's.

Explain how he was overrated - Championships, scoring titles, all defense, MVPs, All Stars, etc, etc, etc.

If you don't like the guy, that's one thing, but overrated? :whatever:

[E. Nygma]

Magic Johnson was a better player. Not only could he play virtually any position, but he was a winner, he was just as classy as Jordan, he made his team mates better, and had his career not been shortened i think he'd have had another title to match Jordan's six (granted MJ retired twice in his prime), and would have hit probably 25-30,000 points.

Jordan was a great player, no question about it. He IS the conversation when it comes to greatest of all-time. But people forget Magic was one of the most fundamentally sound players to ever play, Jordan gets a lot of credit from his flash and flare.

[steintym]

First of all, let me just say that Magic was absolutely one of the greatest of all time...

But even if his career wasn't cut short (he did play 13 seasons, so he was probably near the end anyway) what year would have one another title? The Bulls beat the Lakers for their first title and only got better the next two years.

[E. Nygma]

First of all, let me just say that Magic was absolutely one of the greatest of all time...

But even if his career wasn't cut short (he did play 13 seasons, so he was probably near the end anyway) what year would have one another title? The Bulls beat the Lakers for their first title and only got better the next two years.

Well the Lakers had some fairly solid teams when Michael retired the first time. In fact the Rockets were like a 7 seed when they won the title the first year i believe. The Lakers even had a better record. Put Magic on that team and he'd only be in his mid 30's.

[steintym]

Well the Lakers had some fairly solid teams when Michael retired the first time. In fact the Rockets were like a 7 seed when they won the title the first year i believe. The Lakers even had a better record. Put Magic on that team and he'd only be in his mid 30's.

You have a point, I guess. I was thinking titles while Michael was around, not the year and half of retirement.

I'll give you that as a possibility :cwink:

[E. Nygma]

Now if i say Magic is the best all around player of all time.

Michael is certainly number two.

[Ghostvirus]

Well the Lakers had some fairly solid teams when Michael retired the first time. In fact the Rockets were like a 7 seed when they won the title the first year i believe. The Lakers even had a better record. Put Magic on that team and he'd only be in his mid 30's.

Um, Mid-30's is like retire, or get injured at any moment age. & that is for a Center. For an athletic man like Magic he more than likely would have already been retired by that time. If not his game would have not been anywhere what it was in the 80's.

Remember when Jordan came back the first time, & there were skeptics because he was 32? Maginc playing in his mid-thirty's would be like when Jordan played in Washington. He still would have been great, but not great enough.

FYI - Even Magic admits Jordan is the greatest.

[Kal-El 8]

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Their will never be another, MJ is and always will be the greatest NBA player whoever lived .

[NewYorkSpider]

The greatest basketball player of all-time.

[Anti-Moderator]

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[Jerry!]

I'll give Magic the second spot behind Jordan as greatest of all time. Jordan just did things you never saw before and haven't seen since. I think he is the only guard to ever win both Defensive player of the year and MVP in the same season. I'm not sure if another guard had ever won D-Player of the year before him. I think Gary Payton won it once in the 90s. And even when he came back for those 2 years with the Wizards, he was still averaging 20 something points.'


Edit: That video is awesome. Doesn't just show his "flash and flare", but his entire game. He was a 9 time NBA First team Defense for a reason. One season he averaged 32 points, which is nothing new for MJ and not even his career high. But he also averaged nearly 3 steals, 8 rebounds and 8 assists a game that season.

[Immortalfire]

Michael was great, but David Robinson was my man

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[E. Nygma]

Um, Mid-30's is like retire, or get injured at any moment age. & that is for a Center. For an athletic man like Magic he more than likely would have already been retired by that time. If not his game would have not been anywhere what it was in the 80's.

Remember when Jordan came back the first time, & there were skeptics because he was 32? Maginc playing in his mid-thirty's would be like when Jordan played in Washington. He still would have been great, but not great enough.

FYI - Even Magic admits Jordan is the greatest.

Magic was an all-star his final season until the mini 30 game comeback he had.

He was like 32 then.

It's hard for me to believe he'd have that much of a drop off the second he hits 33 or 34.

And he'd certainly be able to boost those Laker teams.

[Jerry!]

Boost? Yes. Be as dominant as ever? Not likely. That's what Jordan did.

[steintym]

Now if i say Magic is the best all around player of all time.

Michael is certainly number two.

Jordan was a better all around player. Magic wasn't close to Jordan when it came to the defensive end or scoring.

[Ghostvirus]

Magic was an all-star his final season until the mini 30 game comeback he had.

He was like 32 then.

It's hard for me to believe he'd have that much of a drop off the second he hits 33 or 34.

And he'd certainly be able to boost those Laker teams.

We could debate this all day, but I am not going to becaus Magic was just as good. I can understand for love of him just as much as I love Jordan, so lets just call a spade a spade.

Both those guys were simply incredible to watch (as well was Bird), & it hasn't been duplicated since for me. I remember when Jordan first came back, & he was playing the Hawks. He hit a Buzzer beater. I am pretty sure that was my first orgasm.

[Soundwave]

Jordan and Wilt Chamberlain are the two greatest players of all-time.

[knowsbleed]

Jordan vs Dominique...awesomesauce.

[Ultimate_Superman]

We (the Wizards) were fools to let him go the way we did. :( But then again if he stayed we never would have gotten Gilbert.

[LastSunrise1981]

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[steintym]

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Greatest Jordan game I've ever watched - That's the one

Jazz fans still have nightmares with Jordan in them. :yay:

[Ultimate_Superman]

Greatest Jordan game I've ever watched - That's the one

Jazz fans still have nightmares with Jordan in them. :yay:Many teams still do. I know the Knicks fans do. :D My Uncle is a Knicks fan and when ever your talk about Jordan he just shakes his head about the subject. Me I wasn't a Bulls fan I was a Jordan fan and a Bullets/Wizards fan at the time so when Jordan came to the Wizards it was like a dream come true then we fired him foolishly. :cmad::cmad::cmad:

[Super_Ludacris]

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Their will never be another, MJ is and always will be the greatest NBA player whoever lived .

Obviously, Money Mike was that dude.

But you probably never even watched the game so fall back with the cliched statement.

[Super_Ludacris]

We (the Wizards) were fools to let him go the way we did. :( But then again if he stayed we never would have gotten Gilbert.

What's he done latley

'Twain and Caron>>>>> Hibiatchi (no typo)

[Ultimate_Superman]

What's he done latley

'Twain and Caron>>>>> Hibiatchi (no typo)Well I think it will be a different story once Agent 0 comes back after the All-Star Break.

[Super_Ludacris]

Well I think it will be a different story once Agent 0 comes back after the All-Star Break.

Wizards dont even need him really, they can win without him and he's probably ghost after this season.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Wizards dont even need him really, they can win without him and he's probably ghost after this season.
Blasphemy!!!!:cmad::cmad::cmad::cmad:


Although I do sometimes regret that we didn't make the trade for him and Kobe when we had the chance. I mean the Lakers were going to give us Kobe and all we had to do was give them Gil. I mean think about it Butler, Jameson and Kobe. We would have been the powerhouse of the east.:( But I am happy with the team we have and think Gilbert is very much needed on this team. I mean when Jordan was gone from the Bulls they still won but they were not the same team. Thats how I look at it with Gilbert.

[Super_Ludacris]

Overall he's been lousy since February 2007 injuries withstanding...

[Ultimate_Superman]

The man's been playing hurt since Feb 07

[Super_Ludacris]

He's been injured since late March, no ankle or knee can account for the dumb a$$ 3-13 shooting nights he had before that (when he was gonna gaurntee victory and 50)

Gil is not on a Kobe, Lebron, D-Wade level despite what people say. Dude's just a streaky shooting Point Gaurd.

[Ultimate_Superman]

He's been injured since late March, no ankle or knee can account for the dumb a$$ 3-13 shooting nights he had before that (when he was gonna gaurntee victory and 50)

Gil is not on a Kobe, Lebron, D-Wade level despite what people say. Dude's just a streaky shooting Point Gaurd.Blasphemy!!!!:cmad::cmad::cmad::cmad:

[Super_Ludacris]

And his teams alternate road unis suck. I hate that there even playing in my city, I want to send em back to Baltimore...

[Silver Knight]

Mj = Goat.

[Ultimate_Superman]

And his teams alternate road unis suck. I hate that there even playing in my city, I want to send em back to Baltimore...You son of *****:cmad::cmad::cmad:

[Ultimate_Superman]

The Wizards are the best team in the NBA today and any man who disagrees I will have words with. :cmad:

[Super_Ludacris]

You son of *****:cmad::cmad::cmad:

Oh you just mad cause Im stylin on you

[Ultimate_Superman]

Oh you just mad cause Im stylin on you Stylin on who. Pulled out my bankroll on Super Luda like WHOA!

[Super_Ludacris]

Stylin on who. Pulled out my bankroll on Super Luda like WHOA!

What Bankroll? The crumbled $10 bill that payed for the Wizards Black and Gold "uniforms" and Gil's Rehab treatment?

[M.O.Steel]

Yeah it's hard to see him at 45 and overweight but hey... He can still shoot :p


Also remember the good ole' days in his prime.

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I don't see it. I think it's just the loose shirt. He doens't look overweight to me.

[steintym]

I don't see it. I think it's just the loose shirt. He doens't look overweight to me.

Definitely not at his playing weight, but I agree, he doesn't look that overweight to me.

I wish I was that "overweight" :woot:

[Malice]

I am all about the rockets...they rule!

[Jerry!]

Wrong thread.

[Super_Ludacris]

I am all about the rockets...they rule!

not really but I got love for T-mac and Hakeem from back in the day.

[E. Nygma]

not really but I got love for T-mac and Hakeem from back in the day.

T-Mac still plays for the Rockets

and Hakeem and he never played on the same team?

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I don't see it. I think it's just the loose shirt. He doens't look overweight to me.

I don't know if I see it THAT much in the video. There was commentary from ESPN that he had gained a considerable amount... Of course that includes input from Skip so, hmm. ;)

Regardless, it's scary... The man could literally play in the league at 50 if he wanted.

[steintym]

He was always quoted in interviews as saying that when he retired he wanted to kick back a little and get a gut. Mission accomplished, I guess. :woot:

[POWdER-man]

There are a lot of great players out there but there is only one MJ.......
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Man these games bring back a lot memories......Ehlo, Wilkins, Lambeer, Divac, Miller....Pistons, Knicks, Cavaliers, Pacers, Lakers, Suns, Rockets, Trail Blazers, Jazz fans will always remember #23.....

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He was always quoted in interviews as saying that when he retired he wanted to kick back a little and get a gut. Mission accomplished, I guess. :woot:


I told my Dad the same thing the other day how Jordan always said he wanted to not worry about being in shape when he gets out of the game and have a gut. :)

[Captain Planet!]

Yeah it's hard to see him at 45 and overweight but hey... He can still shoot :p

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Also remember the good ole' days in his prime.

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Thats Michael Jordan? Man... He got fat.

[Super_Ludacris]

T-Mac still plays for the Rockets

and Hakeem and he never played on the same team?

I mean that I like Houston cause of Mac now and because of Hakeem from back in the day

You think I dont know that? lol flickin heck...

[Nightmare]

Thats Michael Jordan? Man... He got fat.

Stop hating!!!

MJ = GOAT

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He did gain some weight but hey it's always been part of his plan after retiring.

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I think he said one time he'd eat a steak dinner before every game. Now he's probably eating a steak dinner before every meal :p

[E. Nygma]

I mean that I like Houston cause of Mac now and because of Hakeem from back in the day

You think I dont know that? lol flickin heck...

oh i'm sorry, it was the way you worded it that confused me. I am a big Hakeem fan thats why, i liked the Rockets growing up in the 90's when they won their titles and then traded for Charles Barkley. They traded Sam Cassell who was at the time and still remains one of my favorite players. When Steve Francis was traded to Houston i immediately became a big fan of his also.

[Jerry!]

The best team intro ever. Too bad Ray Clay isn't their PA announcer anymore, he was one of the best.

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[E. Nygma]

The best team intro ever. Too bad Ray Clay isn't their PA announcer anymore, he was one of the best.

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aaaaaaaaaaand now! YOUR CHICAGO BULLS!

I love this too and i'm not even a Bulls fan.

It was very cool seeing those computerized Bulls run through the city in NBA title series's as Michael Jordan got set to destroy the Jazz and cost my boy John Stockton an NBA title :(

[Jerry!]

I never got the chance to see a game in the old Chicago Stadium, but a few people I know who have said the last thing you hear during the intros was right before Jordan was introduced, it would be like a wall of sound, you didn't even hear his name being announced over the loud speakers.

[FaT_tONle]

I was a Bulls nut back when the NBA mattered as well... I cried when they lost to Seattle in the finals in like game 3/4 or w/e it was... good thing they pulled it out... and those Jazz games was probably the best quality of basketball I will have ever seen in my life.

[E. Nygma]

Fu Byron Russell!

[steintym]

I never got the chance to see a game in the old Chicago Stadium, but a few people I know who have said the last thing you hear during the intros was right before Jordan was introduced, it would be like a wall of sound, you didn't even hear his name being announced over the loud speakers.

I went to several games at the old Stadium and that description is very accurate. You'd hear "from North Carolina" and that would be about it. I'd get chills, it was very exciting.

[Ghostvirus]

The best team intro ever. Too bad Ray Clay isn't their PA announcer anymore, he was one of the best.

jBeRmJuXShw

& this is why I support cloning.:up:

Lets make some copies at them out on the court!:cmad:

[Nightmare]

That video was amazing. NBA would just cut that part off nowdays for a commercial.

[Jerry!]

I don't know if it was always that way with the Finals before, but Chicago broadcasts the intros still today for all the home games. It's kinda weird. They kept the song but added sort of a drum beat to it. And of course Ray Clay isn't doing the announcing any more.

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[Alex The Great]

MJ is da bombz.

HE CAN STRETCH HIS ARMS AND DEFEAT MONSTERS! :woot::up::hehe:

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He should come back at 50 :D