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tecnowraith
01-30-2008, 06:18 PM
Ok I have thread I like start for the movie. With past movies based on comics and cartoon shows name X-men, should the Uniforms for both Joe team and Cobra be done all in leather/synthetic leather or (rubber like Batman in the new Dark Knight) and all be the same or should the be different materials and be unique in style like in comics and cartoon?
Golgo-13
01-30-2008, 07:24 PM
I think the costumes should be as close to the characters' classic cartoon/comic counterparts, as much as they can; so they should use whatever material works on the big screen. The film makers did say that this movie would be like watching a cartoon come to life, so i hope i'll get my wish, i just hope it doesn't come off as being too corny.
mr. peasant
01-30-2008, 08:11 PM
See, but that to me is a sort of contradiction, given how the characters' classic designs are a tad on the corny side (okay, maybe a lot). I think, Sigma 6's idea was good, in that all the characters have a similar base uniform/design (though more realistic than Sigma 6's) but with customized aspects that suit their role/personality, possibly taking some nods to the classic design (e.g. Snake Eye's mask). At least, for the Joes anyway.
As for Cobra, I think they can pretty much keep their designs (at least Cobra Commander, Storm Shadow and the Baroness). I'm not too keen on Zartan's and/or Destro. Those two probably could stand for some slight redesigning (of course, keep Zartan's hood).
Regarding Destro's mask, that can be a slight problem. Unless it's part of his tech, it would look kind of weird for him to always be hiding behind it. Maybe, have him use it in a particular scene (e.g. a masquerade ball) and be done with it. Or, give a reason why he's wearing the mask, beyond simply family tradition.
Pink Ranger
01-30-2008, 08:29 PM
The Joes are soldiers, so they should wear stylized versions of US army uniforms. The Cobras, however, could go for the whole Matrix thing.
DOG LIPS
01-30-2008, 08:33 PM
I do agree with going for an updated Sigma 6 - ish style, with a more uniform look. Destro is a big concern, as I said in the main Joe thread, I really wonder/fear how they will do his helmet. :csad:
Give Zartan the hood and I'm good. Vosloo will get it done. :cwink:
Gatchamanjp
01-31-2008, 11:42 AM
Let the Joes and Cobra Commander's forces wear the costumes from G.I. Joe A Real American Hero. Scarlett should definitely wear her bathing suit and tights look as well.
That-Guy
01-31-2008, 11:50 AM
I'm undecided on this, but I really hope it doesn't end up looking like X-Men 3, where they couldn't figure out how to make realistic costumes for everyone so they just made them look like a bunch of rejects from the nightclub scene in The Matrix Revolutions.
Regarding Destro's mask, that can be a slight problem. Unless it's part of his tech, it would look kind of weird for him to always be hiding behind it. Maybe, have him use it in a particular scene (e.g. a masquerade ball) and be done with it. Or, give a reason why he's wearing the mask, beyond simply family tradition.
Wow......ummm.....you have no idea what your talking about do you?
November Rain
01-31-2008, 12:22 PM
i agree on the customised 'uniform' look rather than a flamboyan cartoony style...
the cartoon style would be good for a cameo recruitment scene.
mr. peasant
01-31-2008, 12:37 PM
Wow......ummm.....you have no idea what your talking about do you?
Please explain what you mean. I'm well aware that Destro where's it for the sake of his family's tradition. That said, it serves little to no practical purpose. Besides, if Latino Review's review is accurate, it appears that Destro won't be constantly wearing the metal mask. So, the question now is when?
Because your asking for a change for no real reason.
Or, give a reason why he's wearing the mask, beyond simply family tradition.
It's something that dosent really need a reason much less a more long drawn out one as your suggesting.
Your logic is exactly like asking for Doom to not wear his mask in FF.
mr. peasant
01-31-2008, 05:04 PM
Because your asking for a change for no real reason.
Fair enough. So, I'll post some of my reasons to clarify my opinion:
1. In my opinion, it has the very serious risk of looking tacky if done wrong. And presently, I can't seem to figure a way of doing it right if it is indeed to be worn for long portions of the film.
2. It limits the actor's tools to interact with the audience. It is a well known fact that the musical 'The Phantom of the Opera' had originally been imagined with a fully masked Phantom but was changed to the famous half-mask due to the restrictions it imposed on the actor's ability to convey expression.
3. With Snake Eyes, Storm Shadow and possibly Cobra Commander (all of whom have more realistic reasons for wearing one), there are already enough masked characters running about on screen.
Balthus Dire
01-31-2008, 05:15 PM
Fair enough. So, I'll post some of my reasons to clarify my opinion:
1. In my opinion, it has the very serious risk of looking tacky if done wrong. And presently, I can't seem to figure a way of doing it right if it is indeed to be worn for long portions of the film.
2. It limits the actor's tools to interact with the audience. It is a well known fact that the musical 'The Phantom of the Opera' had originally been imagined with a fully masked Phantom but was changed to the famous half-mask due to the restrictions it imposed on the actor's ability to convey expression.
3. With Snake Eyes, Storm Shadow and possibly Cobra Commander (all of whom have more realistic reasons for wearing one), there are already enough masked characters running about on screen.
Not to break your balls, but...
1) He's Destro. Anyone who knows GI Joe knows that Destro wears a mask all the time, so it's not really going to be "corny" if he wears it, because everyone is expecting him to wear it.
2) Darth Vader is one of the most recognisable villains of all time.
3) Again, it's Destro. He's supposed to wear a mask. Now, I would understand if they put a mask on Duke or something because he never wore one and it's unecessary. But it's Destro. And I highly doubt you're going to hear anyone say "Man, that movie was cool, but they had way too many people with masks on!"
mr. peasant
01-31-2008, 05:25 PM
Not to break your balls, but...
1) He's Destro. Anyone who knows GI Joe knows that Destro wears a mask all the time, so it's not really going to be "corny" if he wears it, because everyone is expecting him to wear it.
2) Darth Vader is one of the most recognisable villains of all time.
3) Again, it's Destro. He's supposed to wear a mask. Now, I would understand if they put a mask on Duke or something because he never wore one and it's unecessary. But it's Destro. And I highly doubt you're going to hear anyone say "Man, that movie was cool, but they had way too many people with masks on!"
1. I say this in reference to new viewers, who aren't intimately familiar with the G.I. Joe mythos, who would find it tacky. Which was why I initially suggested coming up with a plot-based reason for the mask or failing that, to have him appear in a mask at the very least as a nod to the fans in a single scene.
2. You have a point there. Though, there are some key visual cues in Vader's helmet design that conveyed a degree of 'menacing'-ness that Destro's largely humanoid helmet wouldn't allow, which was why I compared it with the Phantom, whose mask design was also humanoid.
3. Lol! Touche.
1. I say this in reference to new viewers, who aren't intimately familiar with the G.I. Joe mythos, who would find it tacky. Which was why I initially suggested coming up with a plot-based reason for the mask or failing that, to have him appear in a mask at the very least as a nod to the fans in a single scene.
You don't need a whole plot about WHY he wears a mask. I takes one line.."He wears it because of an old family tradition yadda yadda". Hell have Hawk says this as he's giving intell info to the Joes on Cobra even. Point is, it takes one line and the audience "gets "it".
2. It limits the actor's tools to interact with the audience. It is a well known fact that the musical 'The Phantom of the Opera' had originally been imagined with a fully masked Phantom but was changed to the famous half-mask due to the restrictions it imposed on the actor's ability to convey expression.
A good actor can "act through" prostetics/masks etc. If you were to throw Rickman or Oldman behind a mask no one would complain like this and If this guy is half as good as everyone says then why are we having this discussion?
Also the look of Destro (and many of the Joes/Cobras) is just cool. People are drawn to well thoguht out designs and interesting, cool looking characters no matter if they are a fan or not.
Balthus Dire
01-31-2008, 05:39 PM
I don't even think they need to explain why Destro wears the mask. He's a bad guy. He wears a mask. It looks cool.
It really doesn't have to be complicated.
mr. peasant
01-31-2008, 05:46 PM
Prosthetics, yes. Masks, I think not. Again, look at 'The Phantom of the Opera's production history as evidence. Michael Crawford couldn't do it, so my guess is that it's much harder than you think.
Ultimately, this debate seems rather pointless in light of the recent spoiler posted on Latino Review, that shows the mask's history and significance. Though, it should be pointed out that he first appears without the mask, indicating he might not be wearing it throughout the film.
DOG LIPS
01-31-2008, 05:49 PM
Doesn't this movie take place 10 years in the future! ?
I doubt they'll have a hard time explaining weird things, people will just think; "It's the future!" :oldrazz:
tecnowraith
02-24-2008, 04:14 PM
So the update info besides the pics for the costumes is now from IESB.net saying it fallow the designs from Valor vs Venom toyline and CGI movie.
http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4334&Itemid=99
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/848/vlcsnap132482nl9.png
http://www.yojoe.com/catalogs/04/wave1/cover.jpg
nieman
02-24-2008, 04:53 PM
What's wrong with their classic comic/cartoon uniforms? They were minimalistic, distinguishable, easily recognized and works for any translation. But once again, there is no need to change anything, after all, they wear stylized army uniforms. The only one that would be weak from that look is Dr. Mindbender. If anything, Sigma 6 & Valor vs Venom are weak because they are overdone....too accessorized.
copywrite
02-24-2008, 05:12 PM
Their original costumes worked for that time. If they went with those now, Duke would look more like Indiana Jones. The Valor vs Venom costumes are more like a modernized version of the originals, so I don't see the problem. Just be glad the didn't go with styling them after Sigma 6. D:
Rick Roll'd
02-24-2008, 06:02 PM
who the **** is that with cornrows this is gi joe not GI Hoodhop
copywrite
02-24-2008, 06:12 PM
You guys would find anything to ***** about. That's not even from the movie, it's from the CGI movie. He was just posting a pic so you can see what they're basing it off of.
Rick Roll'd
02-24-2008, 07:45 PM
It was a joke but seriously I hope scarlett doesn't wear that leatard.
SHADOWBAT69
02-24-2008, 08:14 PM
I would prefer updated versions of the classic costumes. They are supposed to be an elite team outside standard military operations, so I dont see the need to keep them instandard military garb. Let their characters shine thru! :D
TheVileOne
02-24-2008, 08:27 PM
For Destro, El Mayimbe in his script review talked about a Man In The Iron Mask type origin for Destro's family going back to the 1600's where one of Destro's ancestors had an iron mask branded onto his face.
copywrite
02-24-2008, 09:39 PM
Which would be an awesome scene to witness.
The Avatar
02-24-2008, 10:00 PM
For Destro, El Mayimbe in his script review talked about a Man In The Iron Mask type origin for Destro's family going back to the 1600's where one of Destro's ancestors had an iron mask branded onto his face.
that's the origin of his mask in canon continuity
Jamie Madrox
02-25-2008, 10:08 AM
I would love to see the original costumes, slightly updated.
Cobra Commander's costume could actually resemble a Cop's uniform. You got the shirt, the pants, just add black gloves and a hood. Make it dark blue. Simple and realistic. I don't want CC to wear black instead of blue.
I think Destro's helmet might be something along the lines of Dr. Doom's mask from F4, but with an open mouth piece to talk through and holes in the eyes.
The Joe's, like Duke, Ripcord, Hawk, Breaker and Heavy Duty are fairly easy to make look realistic. They wear uniforms you see on soldiers now. Just add vests, holsters etc. Snake Eyes might wear a Navy Seal type uniform with some body armor and a full head mask. It's not that hard.
Believe me, there are ways to make all the costumes look like they could exist in the real world, it's just a matter of finding the right people that could make that happen.
nieman
02-25-2008, 04:55 PM
I think they should go with their Devils Due looks. Those are the traditional uniforms, but slightly updated. Everyone is still easily recognizable
terry78
02-25-2008, 09:18 PM
http://www.absoluteanime.com/gi_joe_sigma_6/baroness.gif
http://www.absoluteanime.com/gi_joe_sigma_6/index.jpg
http://www.absoluteanime.com/gi_joe_sigma_6/destro.gif
http://www.absoluteanime.com/gi_joe_sigma_6/cobra_commander.gif
nieman
02-26-2008, 01:33 AM
The Sigma 6 uniforms are trash. They look like drunken drawn, dollar store-reject anime, and way too cartoony. Its like the animators said "lets make them as close to Power Ranger looking as we can cause the kids will like that". Whats with all of the armor anyway?
At least the 80s Joes' uniforms looked realistic. Alot of accessories doesn't not make them look any better
Endless Flight
02-26-2008, 10:50 AM
I assume that they'll do a cross between early 80s uniforms and the America's Elite updated garb.
MagicPrime
02-26-2008, 11:12 AM
http://www.absoluteanime.com/gi_joe_sigma_6/baroness.gif
http://www.absoluteanime.com/gi_joe_sigma_6/index.jpg
http://www.absoluteanime.com/gi_joe_sigma_6/destro.gif
http://www.absoluteanime.com/gi_joe_sigma_6/cobra_commander.gif
Post more pictures of the Baroness!!!
Radford
02-27-2008, 05:41 AM
Sigma 6 looks awful. i hope they completely ignore that.
the original cartoon designs could work, if adapted right. Spider-Man's costume was made to look realistically feasible in his movies, same for Sandman's who was a pretty much complete literal translation.
so any costume can translate well to a movie. it all depends on the costume designer.
i think some designers just try to hard and think leather is the only way to go (X-men, Daredevil.. looking at you). but in reality, leather is not very pliable. it doesnt move well, so why the hell would someone whos going to be moving around alot doing all this action wear leather? its just silly, it boggles the mind why anyone would use leather for an action oriented character. :woot:
GI Joe is an elite team, so you dont really need uniformity. Duke could have a standard brown dress military shirt, and some BDU pants, with boots. simple. Snake Eyes could easily be done, the only real 'custom' aspect is the mask. the only issue i see is Destro's mask.
lespaul59
02-29-2008, 12:52 AM
http://www.absoluteanime.com/gi_joe_sigma_6/baroness.gif
http://www.absoluteanime.com/gi_joe_sigma_6/index.jpg
http://www.absoluteanime.com/gi_joe_sigma_6/destro.gif
http://www.absoluteanime.com/gi_joe_sigma_6/cobra_commander.gif
Out of the Sigma 6 costumes pictured I like the Baroness, Snake Eyes, Scarlett and Cobra Commander would work as a battle uniform or something along those lines. But I don't see where there would be a problem putting Duke in ACUs or some other form of BDU, just watch the Military channel and you'll see almost all of the troops wear BDU pants and a brown or OD t-shirt while not wearing the full uniform. I'm not sure how the OD BDU pants and tan or whatever color BDU shirt he wears would work. I think Snake Eyes is who I'm most worried about because hollywood loves unmasking people who wear masks.
Mal'Akai
02-29-2008, 08:06 AM
So the update info besides the pics for the costumes is now from IESB.net saying it fallow the designs from Valor vs Venom toyline and CGI movie.
http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4334&Itemid=99
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/848/vlcsnap132482nl9.png
When the hell did Robin Hood join G.I. Joe?
Doright
02-29-2008, 10:06 PM
When I think of the origional the only one that I think presents a problem is scarlette. I don't think spandex would be the way to go there for her if we want the movie to be on the realistic side.
Everyone else had some kind of variation on standard military or special ops equipment. Even Snake eyes seemed to be in black colored BDU's for most of his outfits. I know they kind of went more ninja on him after a bit but that's ok too.
Well they have already said the costumes will look like the sigma 6 stuff and now that someones posted pictures of it I hope it proves to everyone how s****Y the costumes will look.
knowsbleed
03-02-2008, 12:40 AM
The sigma 6 stuff does look pretty retarded. I was hoping for a more tactical realistic look...but oh well.
Wolverine75
03-02-2008, 12:52 AM
It's a real shame they could'nt have designed better costumes and have chosen to go with the Sigma 6 look which in my opinion was pretty crappy
TheVileOne
03-02-2008, 01:05 AM
The sigma 6 stuff does look pretty retarded. I was hoping for a more tactical realistic look...but oh well.
This movie isn't exactly going for military tactical realism.
mr. peasant
03-02-2008, 07:34 AM
This movie isn't exactly going for military tactical realism.
Agreed. From what little info we've got (nanotech, the chase scene), it sounds like the Joe film will have a more sci-fi slant in its setting. Though, I suspect we should expect something along the lines of Command & Conquer as opposed to Halo.
knowsbleed
03-02-2008, 07:52 AM
This movie isn't exactly going for military tactical realism.
Well, I was hoping for that too...but oh well on that as well.
protocida
03-02-2008, 10:23 AM
http://www.absoluteanime.com/gi_joe_sigma_6/baroness.gif
Perfect. :applaud
http://www.absoluteanime.com/gi_joe_sigma_6/index.jpg
Snake Eyes and Heavy Duty could work.
http://www.absoluteanime.com/gi_joe_sigma_6/destro.gif
I Think they only need to change the coat. This naked chest is so Gay...
http://www.absoluteanime.com/gi_joe_sigma_6/cobra_commander.gif
Too much ''Darth Vader''. Specially the cape.
tecnowraith
03-21-2008, 09:42 AM
Well The first official look at the costumes have posted on the main page and they use than other than Snake Eyes.
tecnowraith
03-21-2008, 09:47 AM
Here is a comparison from cartoon to live-action:
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x198/agentofdeath3/snake_eyes.gif http://superherohype.com/nextraimages/snakeeyes1.jpg http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i38/isitkool/SnakeEyes.jpg
Wow This is a direct translation from art to live!! Look a the arm, exactly the same.
Voyeur
03-21-2008, 11:49 AM
Well, I'm hoping to see Ch...(gasp)...Channing Tatum in the traditional look as Duke (from the 80's...witch the khaki shirt, green band around the shoulder, etc). Something that will give me some hope for his character.
amazingfantasy15
03-21-2008, 11:54 AM
Ok I have thread I like start for the movie. With past movies based on comics and cartoon shows name X-men, should the Uniforms for both Joe team and Cobra be done all in leather/synthetic leather or (rubber like Batman in the new Dark Knight) and all be the same or should the be different materials and be unique in style like in comics and cartoon?
Why would they use leather for the GI Joe costumes, doesn't fit the characters at all, they're a military force. Use material that the military would use customized for each character. Snake Eyes looks fantastic!
Not to break your balls, but...
1) He's Destro. Anyone who knows GI Joe knows that Destro wears a mask all the time, so it's not really going to be "corny" if he wears it, because everyone is expecting him to wear it.
2) Darth Vader is one of the most recognisable villains of all time.
3) Again, it's Destro. He's supposed to wear a mask. Now, I would understand if they put a mask on Duke or something because he never wore one and it's unecessary. But it's Destro. And I highly doubt you're going to hear anyone say "Man, that movie was cool, but they had way too many people with masks on!"
The difference being: People expect to see Destro with a metal face, not necessarily an actual Doctor Doom style plate. Obviously he can't realistically have a functioning metal face. People are used to seeing him talk and express emotions like everyone else. In the movie, he'll have to find another way to do all that...so yes, it is an issue.
http://www.turboawesome.com/uploaded_images/destro-776708.jpg
If the collar and the pleather shirt look gets toned down I could see everything aside from the mask working.
The issue of how he talks and breathes arises so instead an open version around the mouth, ears, and nose would be a good idea.
Like a metal luchador mask or something.
Aethea
03-21-2008, 02:04 PM
WOW, Snake Eye's Top Body Suit Looks Awesome. Now that should have been Batman's torso!
CrashNburn
03-21-2008, 02:28 PM
after seeing the new pics of snake eyes, i'm dying to see how well the other costumes will look!
http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/images/snake-eyes.jpg
:heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:
mrsparkle
03-21-2008, 03:42 PM
The way I'd do Destro is have sectioned metal plates fused with his face.
Gatchamanjp
03-21-2008, 04:03 PM
I am glad that Snake-Eyes uniform from the comics wasn't changed for the new film. Hopefully, the other characters uniforms will be faithful as well.
Radford
03-24-2008, 04:27 AM
i think they should CGI Destro's mask. think about it. with a practical prop mask, youre never going to get it to move with his facial expressions like it did in the cartoon.
but with CGI they can map the actors face, and put a mask over it that will mimic every facial muscle perfectly.
this allows the actor no hinderance when speaking either. :woot:
chris moore
03-24-2008, 06:41 PM
I reckon the first set of America's Eliet costume would work fine on screen. They've clearly shown that Snake eyes translates brilliantly. Some of the 80's comics and cartoon uniforms are a bit too dated to work (Duke's for example). But the Sigma six ones are way too cheesy and fantastical.
http://smalljoes.com/images_comics/ae01_l.jpg. Flint however (shame he isnt in it) would do better in his original one - it dates well and looks more badass
terry78
03-24-2008, 07:55 PM
My theory is that they will all be in military garb and similar uniform, but each of them will have their own little personal touch to it, just to differentiate. Since they're somewhat "above" the regular grunts in the military.
Wolverine75
03-24-2008, 09:48 PM
they defenitley got Snake Eyes' uni spot on, let's hope they can do with the rest of the cast as well
iLLy_DNA
03-25-2008, 05:26 AM
i think they should CGI Destro's mask. think about it. with a practical prop mask, youre never going to get it to move with his facial expressions like it did in the cartoon.
but with CGI they can map the actors face, and put a mask over it that will mimic every facial muscle perfectly.
this allows the actor no hinderance when speaking either. :woot:
I was thinking they could do a thin flexible prosthetic face/head piece, just thick it enough to give it the Destro metal head look. Make it green and jazz it up to look like real metal with CG.
I don't know. Maybe they dont need the prosthetic. I don't care how they do it, as long as they full advantage of Destro's iconic look. I don't want them to go the Steel route and give him a mouth hole and I don't want him to have a static Dr. Doom mouth. The supposed nanatech aspect is reassuring.
Mal'Akai
03-25-2008, 08:19 AM
I was thinking they could do a thin flexible prosthetic face/head piece, just thick it enough to give it the Destro metal head look. Make it green and jazz it up to look like real metal with CG.
I don't know. Maybe they dont need the prosthetic. I don't care how they do it, as long as they full advantage of Destro's iconic look. I don't want them to go the Steel route and give him a mouth hole and I don't want him to have a static Dr. Doom mouth. The supposed nanatech aspect is reassuring.
That's the problem, a metel mask can only move in cartoon and comic books. What we will get, is probably something like Colossus in X3.
thegameq
03-28-2008, 12:42 PM
i think they should CGI Destro's mask. think about it. with a practical prop mask, youre never going to get it to move with his facial expressions like it did in the cartoon.
but with CGI they can map the actors face, and put a mask over it that will mimic every facial muscle perfectly.
this allows the actor no hinderance when speaking either. :woot:
Yup! I think that's the perfect scenario for the same technique used for POTC2.
Balthus Dire
03-28-2008, 02:20 PM
I don't give a crap how they pull it off just as long as Destro is wearing the mask.
andurilelessar
03-29-2008, 06:32 PM
At first when I heard they were doing a GI Joe movie, I was thinking too my self oh great this is going too suck, but after seeing the pictures of snake eyes, I actually want too see more.:word:
Timstuff
03-29-2008, 11:18 PM
That's the problem, a metel mask can only move in cartoon and comic books. What we will get, is probably something like Colossus in X3.
CG is probably the route they're going. Sommers loves to work with CG, and it's the only logical way that they could go for the mask unless they wanted either this:
http://media.movieweb.com/galleries/983/1876/lo/doom.jpg
or this:
http://www.virginmedia.com/microsites/movies/slideshow/top-ten-movie-robots/img_5.jpg
nieman
03-30-2008, 12:45 AM
I think its important though that Destro's mask actually looks like a mask and not just a painted face.
terry78
03-30-2008, 12:54 AM
CG is probably the route they're going. Sommers loves to work with CG, and it's the only logical way that they could go for the mask unless they wanted either this:
http://media.movieweb.com/galleries/983/1876/lo/doom.jpg
or this:
http://www.virginmedia.com/microsites/movies/slideshow/top-ten-movie-robots/img_5.jpg
It says something when the Tin Man looks scarier than Doctor Doom.
I rather like the black Cobra Commander outfit.
As for Destro...go with the suit his son Alexander wore when he took his father's place. That was a kickass looking suit.
Destro should be done like Dr.Doom. It is a mask he wears not just a silver face and it should LOOK like a mask.
terry78
04-06-2008, 01:29 PM
Destro should be done like Dr.Doom. It is a mask he wears not just a silver face and it should LOOK like a mask.
So the facial expressions and lips moving that are done in the cartoon and comics is just for added effect and don't really move, you're saying.
Yeah I am....similer to how Batman, Spider-man etc all their masks move.
It is already well established in the mythology that he is wearing a MASK and that wearing that mask is family tradition. Why and how would a mask move to suit someones facial expressions? In realtiy it dosen't make any sense to do so while in 2d art it is done to help the reader/viewer decode the story.
lixdexia
04-06-2008, 04:32 PM
Yeah I am....similer to how Batman, Spider-man etc all their masks move.
It is already well established in the mythology that he is wearing a MASK and that wearing that mask is family tradition. Why and how would a mask move to suit someones facial expressions? In realtiy it dosen't make any sense to do so while in 2d art it is done to help the reader/viewer decode the story.doesn't mean they all wore the same mask though. it could be that the mask has evolved from generation to generation. i think someone here said the new mask was made out of nanites or something which allows it to conform to his facial expressions
Mal'Akai
04-06-2008, 05:07 PM
Yeah I am....similer to how Batman, Spider-man etc all their masks move.
It is already well established in the mythology that he is wearing a MASK and that wearing that mask is family tradition. Why and how would a mask move to suit someones facial expressions? In realtiy it dosen't make any sense to do so while in 2d art it is done to help the reader/viewer decode the story.
So, just for the record, you're OK with not getting a mask like this one? I know I'm fine with that, but just checking with the rest of you. Also, would like to say, I do not want Destro looking like Dr. Doom.
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n237/mkrolfe/comic40_l.jpg
nieman
04-07-2008, 01:37 AM
Dr. Doom mask wasn't that bad. It just wasn't that great.They tried to have too much going on with it. I agree with K.B. in that Destro's mask should look like a mask....NOT nanites. Isn't Destro the type that would honor family tradition and wear the same exact mask that everyone before him bore......especially since it is tradition that the head of the family each generation wears it. As long as they don't make it too bulky it will work.
andurilelessar
04-07-2008, 07:52 PM
It says something when the Tin Man looks scarier than Doctor Doom.
Yeah he kind of has that child molester look in his eye
The Question
04-07-2008, 11:02 PM
I think Destro's mask should be an old metal celtic mask, maybe one looking vaguely druidic, that was made to resemble a human face but is still completely imobile.
Timstuff
04-08-2008, 12:20 AM
Here's a Cobra Commander costume for you.
mlw6-KuljmM
QueerMike
04-08-2008, 09:49 PM
Yeah he kind of has that child molester look in his eye
How do you know the look in a child molestor's eye?:huh:
Joker4Halloween
04-10-2008, 06:10 PM
I think it'd be cool for the cast to look like they did as the cartoon. They always change costumes for movies, but if this one time they didn't. Maybe it'd be cool.
Kanon
04-15-2008, 04:35 PM
From http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4718&Itemid=99
Scarlett and Duke's battle suits:
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/3579/rachelscarlettmedwx6.jpg
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/5551/joeandscarletsuitsmeduh7.jpg
Octoberist
04-15-2008, 05:13 PM
God, she's so cute.
tamron
04-15-2008, 08:57 PM
Sigma 6 look. No surprise there. Not really enough there to make a judgement call yet, though.
nieman
04-15-2008, 09:23 PM
Not much there to judge it, but Scarlett looks like it would be good.Especially if thats her uni, Duke's on the other hand...(muscle padding?) I'm not sold on
tecnowraith
04-15-2008, 09:50 PM
So Paramount asked them to take the pics down. Hmmm the plot thickens :).
The Avatar
04-15-2008, 10:06 PM
I'm not feeling it.
Gotham
04-15-2008, 10:32 PM
So Paramount asked them to take the pics down. Hmmm the plot thickens :).
I don't think there's a doubt that they aren't real. Even so, Paramount would still take them down. Regardless.
Anyway--there isn't much to judge. I like them, I guess.
Advocate05
04-16-2008, 03:58 PM
New pic from joblo.com
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=34063&stc=1&d=1208375399
not fake. Nice arse. yum.
CorpusBlack
04-16-2008, 04:04 PM
The suit looks really cool. I just wish they'd keep it close to the original version.
...That suppose to be the Baroness?
terry78
04-16-2008, 05:10 PM
So they're going the X-Men route, and making them black. I hope not, really. If anyone doesn't have a problem with colorful ****, it's Stephen Sommers.
nieman
04-16-2008, 06:12 PM
It looks good, BUT I really hope they don't "ninja" everyone. Scarlett could've had the same uniform, but the top should've been grey with the padding being gold. It would look perfect like that. If I see Duke, Ripcord & Storm Shadow in all black, then we gonna really have a problem.
chris moore
04-17-2008, 03:57 AM
It definitely works. I can see that of all the JOES, Scarlett is most likely to also be black clad as she's the other major martial artist and has the relationship with Snake Eyes - so the both of them in black fits. Only problem is that unless the Baronesses suit is a one piece without armoured bits and actually has the chest logo, both her and scarlett are gonna look a bit too alike (cept for hair up and hair down of course).
There was this convention model in a Baroness costume, and she was supposed to be set up like a giant action figure (in that they had a massive packaging box behind her). I can't remember where I saw the pic, but the outfit was pretty good for adaptation to the movie.
Might've been this girl, but I'm not sure:
http://www.comic-images.com/data/media/24/baroness2.jpghttp://www.usagichan.com/SDCC2002/images/SDCC2k2Sat-110.JPG
Hope we get some colour variation with the others though. Darkish, sure. But tonal rather than blacks
zerohour films
04-17-2008, 03:10 PM
I have to agree, Scarlett looks very good--:wow:
Though I do wish they'd kept the original colors or a close variation.
Really can't wait to see how Baroness turns out now, hopefully she will look different enough to this as to not look strange.
BTW---who is that? She just conjurs all kinds of bad geeky thoughts...:woot:
http://www.comic-images.com/data/media/24/baroness2.jpghttp://www.usagichan.com/SDCC2002/images/SDCC2k2Sat-110.JPG
CorpusBlack
04-17-2008, 03:18 PM
I have to agree, Scarlett looks very good--:wow:
Though I do wish they'd kept the original colors or a close variation.
Agreed.
Really can't wait to see how Baroness turns out now, hopefully she will look different enough to this as to not look strange.
I can't wait to see Sienna in Baroness gear. :up:
BTW---who is that? She just conjurs all kinds of bad geeky thoughts...:woot:
Yes she does.
It looks like they are going the X-Men route with the suits.
Mr. Wiener
04-17-2008, 05:27 PM
It looks like they are going the X-Men route with the suits.
They want to make them more sexy
shadowdog
04-17-2008, 05:55 PM
I think Scarlett looks great, but the only question I have is, if everyone (or at least more than a few) are all in black, won't it make Baroness and Snakeyes, who wear all black as their signature looks, seem not as cool?
Baroness in a sexy black catsuit is such an iconic sort of supervillainess look...but now that's what Scarlett looks like!
It sort of ruins the effect.
chris moore
04-18-2008, 03:59 AM
Sooner or later, someone will take the Scarlett image and alter the colurs slightly to give her at least sandy coloured armour and dulled red shoulder pads. Be interesting to see
And a particularly notabl thing about the Baroness woman up there is that she has managed to get her lyra/spandex suit to actually conform to her boob line, rather than it squash them in or taper down like, for instance, a wetsuit does.
Mal'Akai
04-18-2008, 09:12 AM
Sooner or later, someone will take the Scarlett image and alter the colurs slightly to give her at least sandy coloured armour and dulled red shoulder pads. Be interesting to see
And a particularly notabl thing about the Baroness woman up there is that she has managed to get her lyra/spandex suit to actually conform to her boob line, rather than it squash them in or taper down like, for instance, a wetsuit does.
They already have.
http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=14577934&postcount=121
Timstuff
04-18-2008, 12:46 PM
I think it's at least possible that Duke's armor is going to go over a set of regular pants. I mean, if Snake Eyes is wearing normal pants and not something skintight, why the heck would Duke not wear normal pants? There's still a possibility that they're not going to go all black. If they did go all black, then I could live with it, but I'd be somewhat disappointed after being so excited with how accurate Snake Eyes' suit looked to the original. Also, as has been said, all those black suits would undoubtedly steal some of Snake Eyes' thunder.
espgeetar
04-18-2008, 12:51 PM
Can anyone pm me the pics I would appreciate it much much. I might even hold your hand.
CorpusBlack
04-18-2008, 12:54 PM
I'm not liking the costumes one bit. The more I see the more I'm reminded that Sommers is directing and that this film will most likely disappoint. Inner monologue: I must remain positive.
Rick Roll'd
04-18-2008, 01:31 PM
Wow you know.......... Those new picks reaffirms me that Sienna Miller is a ****ty Baroness
millennium movies
04-18-2008, 01:33 PM
Is it the one from the tyler sites?
Rick Roll'd
04-18-2008, 01:44 PM
Yup
millennium movies
04-18-2008, 01:45 PM
Ah alright, so what's the verdict around here?
gimmen64
04-18-2008, 01:50 PM
Since I got to see the pics before they were pulled.....I think they rock and are very realistic. The Baroness is mega-hawt even though she didn't have the glasses, she looks better that way. I'm really excited about this film, you can bet that I'm going to be there opening day. I have a feeling that this movie is going to be action packed and going to keep us guessing.
CorpusBlack
04-18-2008, 01:51 PM
Wow you know.......... Those new picks reaffirms me that Sienna Miller is a ****ty Baroness
I'm most dissapointed w/ Storm Shadow.
The real test is going to be Destro, Cobra Commander and Zartan IMO.
CorpusBlack
04-18-2008, 01:52 PM
The Baroness is mega-hawt even though she didn't have the glasses, she looks better that way.
I'd prefer the glasses.
Rick Roll'd
04-18-2008, 01:56 PM
In my opinion
I like
Scarlett
Snake Eyes
Storm Shadow
Ripcord
Don't like
Duke(goatee really throws off the whole thing)
Baroness(no glasses or logo)
Captain Hawk
If i wasn't a fan I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the cobra and GI joe with everyone wearing black leather suits
Rick Roll'd
04-18-2008, 01:58 PM
The real test is going to be Destro, Cobra Commander and Zartan IMO.
Yes I can't wait to see how that works out
Heretic
04-18-2008, 01:59 PM
Seeing as to how they are botching the ones that ARENT real tests, Im afraid of seeing Destro and CC.
Yurka
04-18-2008, 03:45 PM
Can someone PM m the pics please?
CorpusBlack
04-18-2008, 03:50 PM
Can someone PM m the pics please?
I would but I didn't save them. I got frustrated because the site they were on was bogged down w/ traffic and they were all loading ridiculously slow.
Mike_D202
04-18-2008, 04:10 PM
I almost thought I was looking at the Cobra costumes when I looked at the pics. They are terrible! They look like a ninja swat team rather than soldiers.
Tyrinus
04-18-2008, 04:29 PM
Why does Snake Eyes have a visible mouth? Why!?
gimmen64
04-18-2008, 04:41 PM
Why does Snake Eyes have a visible mouth? Why!?
It gives him a more face since he is silent. I bet we don't see a whole bunch of Snake Eyes in the movie.
Tyrinus
04-18-2008, 04:53 PM
You don't make it look like someone is wearing a complete mask and then put a mouth on it like that one....looks retarded.
batboy99
04-18-2008, 04:59 PM
well, maybe they will removei t with CGI or something...
DorkyFresh
04-18-2008, 05:06 PM
well, maybe they will removei t with CGI or something...
um....no. they don't put stuff there only to remove with CG.
i really could care less about the mouth. i actually think it looks kinda cool. the part about Snake Eye's suit that i don't like is that there is sculpted muscles. i don't understand why they're willing to do give Snake Eyes something as corny as sculpted muscles, but they don't want to give the G.I. battle gear any color. it's inconsistent if you ask me.
DJ Kornphlake
04-18-2008, 05:08 PM
well, maybe they will removei t with CGI or something...
So why put it on in the first place?
the_ultimate_evil
04-18-2008, 05:16 PM
damn missed the pics :(
I imagine most of the movie the Joe's wear uniforms akin to what Hawk and Covergirl have on. Toward the end is when we see them in the black suits. It would be flat out comical if they're walking around up to the neck in battle gear the entire movie. Doubt that.
Sub-Zero
04-18-2008, 05:44 PM
the suits don't look that bad, but i kinda expected unique armor for each joe. duke and ripcord are wearing the same armor. its odd how different snake eyes looks from the rest of the team. out of all of them storm shadow is the biggest let down. no mask? c'mon!
RickO'Connell
04-18-2008, 06:01 PM
I imagine most of the movie the Joe's wear uniforms akin to what Hawk and Covergirl have on. Toward the end is when we see them in the black suits. It would be flat out comical if they're walking around up to the neck in battle gear the entire movie. Doubt that.
I have no doubt that we will see something like this
http://www.tvguide.com/images/pgimg/smallville56.jpg
But G.I. Joe style during the final battle
the_ultimate_evil
04-18-2008, 06:13 PM
after seeing the baroness, i must say that underworld wants there look back
If Baroness just had the red Cobra symbol it would be a hundred times better.
The Avatar
04-18-2008, 06:23 PM
it's a real pity if most people didn't manage to see the suits
Dirt Like Me
04-18-2008, 06:30 PM
damn missed the pics :(
Using Goolge I just found a website with 33 hi-res leaked pics of the cast. (The Barroness wears shades in a couple, too). They're not hard to find.
And I'm unimpressed overall.
echostation
04-18-2008, 06:45 PM
they look so incredibly unoriginal and stupid
echostation
04-18-2008, 06:46 PM
they look so incredibly unoriginal and stupid
The Avatar
04-18-2008, 06:58 PM
they look so incredibly unoriginal and stupid
they're so bad it needs to be said twice.
but srsly, how hard is it to get storm shadow wrong? he's wearing k-swiss sneakers and a pleather overcoat for goodness sake
and baroness just looks silly with those shades
batboy99
04-18-2008, 07:17 PM
So why put it on in the first place?
maybe to blend in more so they would only have to take out a little section, but i wasnt being serious about it...
gkokujin
04-18-2008, 08:11 PM
Storm shadow = http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/garo/images/in_cast_kouga.jpg
a straight swipe from GARO.
this is BAD Baroness looks like ****.
so does cover girl...
oh GAWD why does Marlon look like hte best thing in this movie?!
WTF IS GOING ON
gkokujin
04-18-2008, 08:15 PM
If Baroness just had the red Cobra symbol it would be a hundred times better.
baroness needs Scarletts costume.
PhantomDave
04-18-2008, 08:44 PM
Storm Shadow.....is that a friggin pistol holstered on his belt?! Wonderful. They turned Storm Shadow into a gun toting emo who looks like he just walked off of a My Chemical Romance video. WTF.... I'm so not watching this anymore. No matter how bad ass Ray Park will be as Snake Eyes.
batboy99
04-18-2008, 08:58 PM
the suits arent HORRIBLE, but they arent great either. Good suitsbut the designs are mediocre at best
Rick Roll'd
04-18-2008, 09:10 PM
IF you haven't seen the suits look at Xmen
another find example of hollywood S&M fetish in movies I hope the vehicles aren't made out of leather
Kanon
04-18-2008, 09:23 PM
Baroness' glasses are too big for her head...
DJ Kornphlake
04-18-2008, 09:31 PM
Baroness' glasses are too big for her head...
Yeah, I found that amusing.
Mal'Akai
04-18-2008, 09:41 PM
It's weird how they got Snake Eyes so right, and the others so wrong. Very weird.
Actually, just noticed that in the lighter versions of Snake Eyes, his mouth is visible.
Kanon
04-18-2008, 09:45 PM
I don't they were THAT bad... at least Wayans was trying to put a badass face :hehe:
My biggest problem was with Storm Shadow, and the mouth on Snake Eyes (that was ****ing weird)
Mr. Wiener
04-18-2008, 09:59 PM
I don't they were THAT bad... at least Wayans was trying to put a badass face :hehe:
My biggest problem was with Storm Shadow, and the mouth on Snake Eyes (that was ****ing weird)
yeah they all reminded me of xmen kinda :csad:
what was wrong with snake eyes mouth? i thought it was cool :yay: those pure black costumes turn my gf on :O i showed her the picture and she said "get on the floor!!"
Kanon
04-18-2008, 10:02 PM
I don't know... it seemed weird to have a mouth in the costume... If it was his mouth uncovered, that's a different deal...
lixdexia
04-18-2008, 10:27 PM
these look sooooo terrible :(
DJ Kornphlake
04-18-2008, 11:46 PM
what was wrong with snake eyes mouth?
It seems kinda odd to have a character that doesn't even speak and wears a full mask to have lips on said mask.
Timstuff
04-19-2008, 12:11 AM
I can't say I'm not at least a little disappointed with Snake Eyes' mask. The early shots looked pretty friggin' spot-on, but that's because it was in the shadows. The mouth and nose have got to go IMO, and that visor should be a few shades darker. In case you haven't seen the photos, here's my professional artist's rendering of how the mask currently looks, since we're not allowed to post the official pics.
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/8042/snakeeyes1wu2.jpg
PyroChamber
04-19-2008, 12:28 AM
Is it too late to ask for a PM of the pics?
DorkyFresh
04-19-2008, 12:29 AM
i didn't click on all of Snake Eyes's pix, but i don't think his mouth was open. he just had lips. i could be wrong, but i'm pretty sure his lips were shut....if that makes any difference.
PyroChamber
04-19-2008, 12:34 AM
Nevermind, I found them. One things for sure, in the pics you can certainly tell Miller's wearing a wig. And I wonder if she'll wear the eyeglasses at sometime, or just the shades?
Also...Who's the blonde suppose to be?
Timstuff
04-19-2008, 12:38 AM
i didn't click on all of Snake Eyes's pix, but i don't think his mouth was open. he just had lips. i could be wrong, but i'm pretty sure his lips were shut....if that makes any difference.
His mouth was indeed open. I looked at multiple pics to confirm this when I drew that sketch.
Seriously though, why the heck does he need a freakin' mouth if he's mute? Does he have a Starbucks addiction or something? One of the coolest things about Snake Eyes' classic mask is that it made him completely unreadable. I can't say the same when I see that rubber yapper on his face though, or that see-through plastic visor.
DorkyFresh
04-19-2008, 12:40 AM
His mouth was indeed open. I looked at multiple pics to confirm this when I drew that sketch.
well in that case...that's pretty dumb. another reason why i don't see why they couldn't have put more color on the other costumes. is there a link anyone could possibly PM me? i'd like to see the stupidity for myself...hehe
DOG LIPS
04-19-2008, 12:42 AM
Maybe in the end he talks. ... Like Bumblebee.
NoirMan82
04-19-2008, 12:50 AM
His mouth was indeed open. I looked at multiple pics to confirm this when I drew that sketch.
Seriously though, why the heck does he need a freakin' mouth if he's mute? Does he have a Starbucks addiction or something? One of the coolest things about Snake Eyes' classic mask is that it made him completely unreadable. I can't say the same when I see that rubber yapper on his face though, or that see-through plastic visor.
From what I saw Snake-Eyes mouth was closed, but the lighting and shadow made them look open. I hated Baroness' hair, it was so obvious a wig. It also seems like they are going for 2 looks with the JOES, fatigues and battle armor.
Balthus Dire
04-19-2008, 12:51 AM
Storm Shadow looks like an emo pop singer.
DorkyFresh
04-19-2008, 12:52 AM
Maybe in the end he talks. ... Like Bumblebee.
LOL!
Storm Shadow looks like an emo pop singer.
emo and pop? is that even possible?
Balthus Dire
04-19-2008, 12:54 AM
emo and pop? is that even possible?
Steven Sommers just proved it!
Timstuff
04-19-2008, 12:57 AM
emo and pop? is that even possible?
In Japan, yes.
PyroChamber
04-19-2008, 12:59 AM
In the sculpting picture, was that Destro's mask in the back?
Balthus Dire
04-19-2008, 01:08 AM
In the sculpting picture, was that Destro's mask in the back?
I had the same thought, and I certainly hope it isn't. But I don't know how many have seen that photo.
DOG LIPS
04-19-2008, 01:08 AM
What picture is that?
Balthus Dire
04-19-2008, 01:09 AM
A leaked one. :o
DOG LIPS
04-19-2008, 01:10 AM
:cmad:
Timstuff
04-19-2008, 01:27 AM
I'm guessing we won't get any pics of Destro anytime soon, since he'll probably be a CG'd-over post-production miracle like Colossus from X-men.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/news/x-men-3/1xmen121205.jpg
SuGarRush
04-19-2008, 01:50 AM
nevermind, found the photos.
Someone in Hollywood hates us. This movie might be the most awful thing to be produced in the last 5 years. And that is saying something...
These costumes make me want to weep for my abused childhood...
fixer79
04-19-2008, 07:01 AM
I can't believe they actually put the G.I. Joe movie logo all over the camouflage pattern CoverGirl and Hawk are wearing...
VERY military looking...:whatever:
nightwing06
04-19-2008, 08:04 AM
Nevermind, I found them. One things for sure, in the pics you can certainly tell Miller's wearing a wig. And I wonder if she'll wear the eyeglasses at sometime, or just the shades?
Also...Who's the blonde suppose to be?
Covergirl
nightwing06
04-19-2008, 08:06 AM
I guess they decided to go the route of the X-men flicks everyone wears black except for 2 characters,unless these suits are for some"stealth ops scene " in the movie.
chris moore
04-19-2008, 11:08 AM
Well, I've had a good look through em all. And although Duke no longer seems impressive as a soldier (thats casting, not costume at fault there), it did occur to me that maybe these suits are for a stealth mission. Or maybe they are the combat suits and they do intel gathering and on-base stuff and trainig stuff in uniforms more reminiscent of what we know, or at least more individual.
I have excuse for the Manga X-Box game themed Storm Shadow though - that's just embarassing... Villains arent likely to have multiple outfits (with exception of Cobra Commander), so I bet thats all we get for him
And shame the baroness doesnt have insanely straight aristocratic hair, or as yet have the red cobra symbol on her chest.
But we have to remember - the worst stuff always gets leaked first. If Favreau wasnt as a smart a bugger as he clearly is, then half of us would have been thinking the mark 1 armour shot released is the main one, or that the giant one seen in the trailer is a final scene mega armour for Tony rather than the Ironmonger armour.
Studios need to release official things slowly nowadays - they just cant beat cheaters, disloyal employees and the internet anymore. Proper release of some good big stuff with some minor non-spoilerish stuff would keep us all happy and reduce the fan desperation to obtain any and everything to release when its first draft or sketchbook
The Avatar
04-19-2008, 11:21 AM
I have excuse for the Manga X-Box game themed Storm Shadow though - that's just embarassing... Villains arent likely to have multiple outfits (with exception of Cobra Commander), so I bet thats all we get for him
Storm Shadow was wearing his "ninja" kit in one pic, and a white suit in another, so it seems like he'll have more than one outfit.
I SEE SPIDEY
04-19-2008, 11:47 AM
I knew the movie was going to suck because the director made Van Helsing and GI Joe would have been a tricky thing to adapt no matter who the director was, but those costumes just take the cake. The movie is going to be full flege s**t.
Timstuff
04-19-2008, 12:03 PM
Does anyone else think that it's kind of odd that the two photos of Snake Eyes that Paramount actually allowed to be released are the ones where you cannot see his mouth, nose, or eyes? It's like Paramount knew that fans were going to whine about them, so they specifically avoided letting us see them. It really makes you wonder-- if Paramount knows that the fans would have a negative reaction towards the mask, why did they make it that way in the first place? It's as if studios LOOK for stuff to stir up controversy amongst fanboys, like it's some kind of stupid PR stunt or something.
Brian Braddock
04-19-2008, 01:08 PM
UK tabloid 'The Daily Mirror' ran this article today:-
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/scan0001-1.jpg
Timstuff
04-19-2008, 01:11 PM
You know what they say... One man's Eurotrash is another man's treasure. :grin:
The Game
04-19-2008, 01:58 PM
I knew the movie was going to suck because the director made Van Helsing and GI Joe would have been a tricky thing to adapt no matter who the director was, but those costumes just take the cake. The movie is going to be full flege s**t.
I agree, those costumes do nothing for me, they look like powerless X Men
Rogles
04-19-2008, 02:01 PM
I had the same thought, and I certainly hope it isn't. But I don't know how many have seen that photo.
It's Cobra Commander. It's the exact description the guy who posted on imdb about a month ago (who said he was involved in the preproduction) gave for CC's mask. He said it was a skullish Jason-like mask.
Balthus Dire
04-19-2008, 02:20 PM
Hmm. That's pretty lame. It looks like a cross between Jason X and Dr. Doom. So much for the hood, I guess.
Rogles
04-19-2008, 02:31 PM
The only thing you could possibly hope for is that they put a hood over that mask and essentially use it for creating contours for the hood. Though, if that's what they were planning on doing, there would be no need for the extra "jaw" detail as it probably wouldn't show up. Also, the guy on imdb said there wasn't a hood so unless they decide to add it later...
CaptainAmerica
04-19-2008, 02:45 PM
I don't really like the costumes. There's too much black.
phoenixflight
04-19-2008, 02:58 PM
Can someone PM me those pics...would love to see what they have done so far.
...They all look 17 years old!
Except for Storm Shadow....he looks 14. And his mother dressed him.
phoenixflight
04-19-2008, 03:24 PM
Where is everyone seeing these pics?? Please PM me or direct me to the site location...many thanks.
Google...is a helluva drug!
=)
copywrite
04-19-2008, 04:01 PM
Does anyone else think that it's kind of odd that the two photos of Snake Eyes that Paramount actually allowed to be released are the ones where you cannot see his mouth, nose, or eyes? It's like Paramount knew that fans were going to whine about them, so they specifically avoided letting us see them. It really makes you wonder-- if Paramount knows that the fans would have a negative reaction towards the mask, why did they make it that way in the first place? It's as if studios LOOK for stuff to stir up controversy amongst fanboys, like it's some kind of stupid PR stunt or something.
Because the ones they released they touch up to make look 'cool.' Which is what they'll probably do during post production as well. This batch we just got wasn't supposed to be released to the public, which is why they look different.
Kokoryu1
04-19-2008, 05:13 PM
It's Cobra Commander. It's the exact description the guy who posted on imdb about a month ago (who said he was involved in the preproduction) gave for CC's mask. He said it was a skullish Jason-like mask.
News floating around the net is Destros mask is made of Nanites after an accident that left him burned! AWEESOME!!!! They really (S)hit the nail on the head with this one!
JMalone61
04-19-2008, 05:19 PM
I think they look bad ass.
Mr. Credible
04-19-2008, 05:38 PM
i didn't see cobra commander... did i miss something?
Kokoryu1
04-19-2008, 05:38 PM
http://www.joebattlelines.com/images/interviews/sigma6wallpaper.jpg
Do these costumes look vaguely familiar to anyone else?
Majik1387
04-19-2008, 05:46 PM
Where is everyone seeing these pics?? Please PM me or direct me to the site location...many thanks.
Ditto
Google...is a helluva drug!
=)
Drugs hate me. Especially Google.:o
Balthus Dire
04-19-2008, 10:20 PM
i didn't see cobra commander... did i miss something?
No, that pic is completely different than the ones that were leaked out here. It came from a different group of leaked photos.
Majik1387
04-19-2008, 10:33 PM
Thank you to the people who sent the pics via pm. The pictures make me sad.
What the hell were the designers thinking?:huh:
Did they really think they look good? At all?
The only one that looks decent is Snake Eyes.
Timstuff
04-19-2008, 10:40 PM
Can someone PM me the supposed Cobra Commander mask pics?
deasnuts
04-19-2008, 11:08 PM
Can someone PM me the supposed Cobra Commander mask pics?
ditto...
DarthRekal
04-19-2008, 11:42 PM
can i get a PM.. of the pics too???:huh:
The Avatar
04-19-2008, 11:45 PM
can i get a PM.. of the pics too???:huh:
I also would like a PM of the cobra commander pic(s) please.
DarthRekal
04-19-2008, 11:46 PM
yes please:woot:
if i get em i will forward them to ya avatar :up:
The Avatar
04-19-2008, 11:48 PM
yes please:woot:
if i get em i will forward them to ya avatar :up:
thanks :cwink:
DarthRekal
04-19-2008, 11:50 PM
sent... thanks koko :up:
The Avatar
04-19-2008, 11:52 PM
I just saw it, and I'm rather disappointed :csad:
The only way I can accept that "mask" is if Rogles is right, which I'm really hoping he is...
The only thing you could possibly hope for is that they put a hood over that mask and essentially use it for creating contours for the hood.
DOG LIPS
04-19-2008, 11:53 PM
I also would like a PM of the cobra commander pic(s) please.
Can I get them sent my way as well, please?
No, I won't ban anyone. :cmad:
Can I get the cobra commander pic as well please?
Kokoryu1
04-19-2008, 11:59 PM
I doubt it's for contour. The mask is too detailed for that. Countour could easily be accomplished through inserts in the hood itself, prosthetics on the actors face Cgi or a combination of all. Remember those clapping Monkey with the cymbols and/or the little robot dog that did back flips when you were a kid. I took the skin off of those (yes I was a demented little bastard!) and underneath was basic plastic skeleton that did little to give those contour.
Mal'Akai
04-20-2008, 12:00 AM
No, that pic is completely different than the ones that were leaked out here. It came from a different group of leaked photos.
Nothing on google.com about Cobra Commander.
DarthRekal
04-20-2008, 12:01 AM
am i the only one who isnt freaked out..??? i mean it looks rather robotic and not what im used to.. but it still seems everything is gonna be alright.. i was rather disappointed with storn shadows outfit.. but i think they can still pul off the cc mask with that... i hope :csad:
Mal'Akai
04-20-2008, 12:05 AM
Are we sure it's Cobra Commander, and not Destro?
DarthRekal
04-20-2008, 12:07 AM
Are we sure it's Cobra Commander, and not Destro?
you saw them???
it could be destro... but i think it looks more CCish
DOG LIPS
04-20-2008, 12:08 AM
Yeah, it doesn't really seem to fit with Destro. It looks like an unfinished CC concept.
This CC design makes sense when you think about it......
All the other costumes sucked so why would his be any different?
Chris B
04-20-2008, 12:15 AM
My thoughts on Duke and Ripcord are pretty much the same as they were when we saw the first pics of Scarlett: not horrible but could have some individualistic ques to them.
I don't really have a problem with the Baroness, Hawk, and Cover Girl
I'm surprised that Storm Shadow doesn't look more like the original considering how faithful the Snake-Eyes suit is. Though on that front, I'm confused why they gave the mask a mouth.
I would also be interested in seeing the Cobra Commander pics if someone is able to PM them.
Kokoryu1
04-20-2008, 12:20 AM
My thoughts on Duke and Ripcord are pretty much the same as they were when we saw the first pics of Scarlett: not horrible but could have some individualistic ques to them.
I don't really have a problem with the Baroness, Hawk, and Cover Girl
I'm surprised that Storm Shadow doesn't look more like the original considering how faithful the Snake-Eyes suit is. Though on that front, I'm confused why they gave the mask a mouth.
I would also be interested in seeing the Cobra Commander pics if someone is able to PM them.
I bet it has to do with the fact that Snake eyes has taken an oath of Silence instead of the whole saving scarlett from the chopper crash angle. Will we see Snake say something witty?
Chris B
04-20-2008, 12:23 AM
Thumbs up to both Koko and DarthRekal for sending me the pic. :up:
As for the helmet, I pretty much agree with those who have said that a hood would make it look better. Still, if they wanted to go for a helmet of some sort, I don't understand why they didn't just use the traditional battle mask.
Kokoryu1
04-20-2008, 12:23 AM
http://www.headblade.com/content/gallery/gerald/gerald.JPG
MEET THE HARD MASTER. Gerald Okamura.
Kokoryu1
04-20-2008, 12:29 AM
I know this is completly off topic but HOW DO I GET A FRAKKIN AVATAR?!
CorpusBlack
04-20-2008, 12:29 AM
Could someone PM me those pics as well.
CorpusBlack
04-20-2008, 12:30 AM
I know this is completly off topic but HOW DO I GET A FRAKKIN AVATAR?!
Try reading the FAQ section.
I bet it has to do with the fact that Snake eyes has taken an oath of Silence instead of the whole saving scarlett from the chopper crash angle. Will we see Snake say something witty?
Silent Bob > Snake Eyes
Venom
04-20-2008, 01:09 AM
Can someone PM me the CC pics please?
CaptainAmerica
04-20-2008, 01:31 AM
Can I get the picture, too?
The Avatar
04-20-2008, 01:32 AM
maybe, just maybe the mask belongs to neither CC or Destro, but instead is for some Cobra Trooper unit, like Range Vipers.
Kokoryu1
04-20-2008, 01:35 AM
Possible. I hope thats the case, but with the way this travesty has come together doubt (like the darkside) clouds my judgement.
CaptainAmerica
04-20-2008, 01:37 AM
I really hope Cobra Commander doesn't wear that. I'm losing more and more hope for this movie every day.
I SEE SPIDEY
04-20-2008, 01:46 AM
Dennis Quaid looks sad in those pictures.:( I'm sure he loves the paycheck though.
Jamie Madrox
04-20-2008, 01:55 AM
Is it at all possible for someone to send me the pics as well? I missed all the good stuff.
keith_v
04-20-2008, 02:02 AM
rant.start
I have to say that I'm pretty disgusted with all of the costumes I've seen so far. They all pretty much look like bad Mass Effect Halloween costumes. There is no reason that the outfits have to not only look silly and cheap, but almost all look identical.
In less than a day, I would have been able to sketch out costumes that retained the original look, modernized it, made it look functional and useable, and look better on camera. Sommers has absolutely no excuse for this. I'm just hoping that these were test shots and the costumes, especially the lower half of Snake Eyes, gets revamped.
These are lazy designs that looked like they were churned out of Concepts 'R' Us.
rant.end
And if anyone has the CC pic, it would be much appreciated if you could PM it to me.
Kokomo29
04-20-2008, 03:02 AM
Can someone please PM me the Cobra Commander pic, too?
Radford
04-20-2008, 03:24 AM
i d love the Cobra Commander too, if someone could PM it. to complete my 'collection'. :hehe:
echostation
04-20-2008, 04:43 AM
count me in... please CC me cobra commander mask pic
Neto Magnus
04-20-2008, 05:07 AM
What's all this about Cobra Commander pics? The only ones were Duke, Hawk, Scarlett, Ripcord, Cover Girl, Snake Eyes, Storm Shadow and Baroness. Totaling 35 pics. Am I right?
DiMiT
04-20-2008, 05:53 AM
could I possibly get the pm as well please
“In effect, this is all about the rise of Cobra Commander"
lemme seeeeee!
(please)
Mal'Akai
04-20-2008, 07:56 AM
Looking at joereloaded.com, the Baroness and Storm Shadow look a lot more spot on.
mr. peasant
04-20-2008, 08:52 AM
Actually, I don't really see what everyone is complaining regarding the costumes. Granted, it would benefit with a slight dash of colors to give the individual characters more personality. However, regarding the actual designs, they seem to fit with the 'near future' setting. If you take a look at this article (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/technology/technology.html?in_article_id=447631&in_page_id=1965), you'll see what the military is hoping to equip soldiers with in the near future. And looking at the design they're going with, what we're seeing in the movie isn't too far off.
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/04_01/robocop0904_639x800.jpg
DarthRekal
04-20-2008, 11:47 AM
anyone who hasnt seen the CC mask
pm me
DoctorJones
04-20-2008, 11:50 AM
Actually, I don't really see what everyone is complaining regarding the costumes. Granted, it would benefit with a slight dash of colors to give the individual characters more personality. However, regarding the actual designs, they seem to fit with the 'near future' setting. If you take a look at this article (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/technology/technology.html?in_article_id=447631&in_page_id=1965), you'll see what the military is hoping to equip soldiers with in the near future. And looking at the design they're going with, what we're seeing in the movie isn't too far off.
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/04_01/robocop0904_639x800.jpg
Interesting, this makes sense because the film is set in 2019, and Bonaventura indicated the military would advise the film (though not to the extent of Transformers, due to the futuristic nature of this toy line).
CorpusBlack
04-20-2008, 12:33 PM
I think it's Destro's mask.
Fettdave
04-20-2008, 01:09 PM
Two thoughts I just had:
1. If Snake's mouth is not molded into the mask and just painted black, how weird will it look if he opens his mouth and his teeth show?
2. I hope Hawk or Cover Girl are never captured. It would be hard to deny you're a member of a special missions force with "G.I. Joe" printed all over your clothes.:oldrazz:
Kokoryu1
04-20-2008, 01:15 PM
Makes sense, to an extent. But I just can't shake the words of the actors themselves. Didn't Tatum say something to the effect of it being really cartoony? Wasn't it Levitt who said it had nothing to do with reality? It is understood that some license had to be taken, maybe due to budget constraints or otherwise. But how difficult would it have been to give the Joes some semblence of individuality?. I'm not talking Bazookas' football jersey or Scarlett in her green and yellow ninja outfit but something to make the character stand out to the viewer on screen. I can't speak for anyone else here but that to me is the missing factor when it came down to the outfits. No individuality, no character and no imagination. Cookie cutter.
CorpusBlack
04-20-2008, 01:19 PM
Makes sense, to an extent. But I just can't shake the words of the actors themselves. Didn't Tatum say something to the effect of it being really cartoony? Wasn't it Levitt who said it had nothing to do with reality? It is understood that some license had to be taken, maybe due to budget constraints or otherwise. But how difficult would it have been to give the Joes some semblence of individuality?. I'm not talking Bazookas' football jersey or Scarlett in her green and yellow ninja outfit but something to make the character stand out to the viewer on screen. I can't speak for anyone else here but that to me is the missing factor when it came down to the outfits. No individuality, no character and no imagination. Cookie cutter.
Agree 100%
Balthus Dire
04-20-2008, 03:06 PM
Even if the CC mask was Destro's, it would still suck.
However, like someone else said, the CC mask we've seen now matches exactly the description that the guy who apparently works on the set described Cobra Commander's mask as looking like. So it's probably CC's.
keith_v
04-20-2008, 03:14 PM
I actually really like the CC mask. Even more than the Jason X mask, I think it looks like Scorpian from the Mortal Kombat cartoon. It has the skull-like ridges and everything.
Balthus Dire
04-20-2008, 03:30 PM
Too bad it looks absolutely nothing like the source material.
keith_v
04-20-2008, 03:35 PM
Too bad it looks absolutely nothing like the source material.
Too true. But think of it this way; they made Batman Begins and The Incredible Hulk, so at least Hollywood is willing to give big franchises a second chance. Maybe after a few years, someone else will make a serious, GI Joe film with visual similar to the source material. (And yes, I am jumping to conclusions and predicting that this film will be garbage. I am hoping that I'm completely wrong and the film will blow us all away, but based on pass precedents, Sommers is bad news.)
3 Dev Adam
04-20-2008, 03:59 PM
Too lazy to check a gazillion posts back, are those real?
http://forums.superherohype.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5215&stc=1&d=1208721546
http://forums.superherohype.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5216&stc=1&d=1208721554
Rick Roll'd
04-20-2008, 04:03 PM
It looks like destro's mask the collar has the studs on it
Gotham
04-20-2008, 04:25 PM
Color me unimpressed with Destro's/Cobra Commander's mask. :csad: I really held hope for this film.
3 Dev Adam
04-20-2008, 04:27 PM
Can someone PM this?
Jamie Madrox
04-20-2008, 05:22 PM
After seeing the mask, I'm guessing that it's gotta be Destro's. 'Rick Roll'd' noticed the colar around the neck which made me suggest it might be Destro's.
Then again, it could just be some sort of Cobra Viper.
You would think they wouldn't reveal Cobra Commander's mask until around the time the movie hits theatres anyway.
BobJM
04-20-2008, 06:12 PM
Could I get a PM as well? I've checked a bunch of sites, but haven't seen it yet?
Thanks.
Balthus Dire
04-20-2008, 06:17 PM
After seeing the mask, I'm guessing that it's gotta be Destro's. 'Rick Roll'd' noticed the colar around the neck which made me suggest it might be Destro's.
Then again, it could just be some sort of Cobra Viper.
You would think they wouldn't reveal Cobra Commander's mask until around the time the movie hits theatres anyway.
Yeah, but it's a leaked photo...it's not like they intended on everyone to see it.
Maybe he'll wear the hood over the mask, so when Duke goes to unmask him he's wearing ANOTHER mask! Then Duke pulls that mask off and he's wearing ANOTHER mask underneath!!! And it keeps going and going until they decide to open up a Halloween Shop and live happily ever after.
Yo Joe!
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