California Democrat Debate Coverage thread

[ShadowBoxing]

Thoughts? responses? observations? This thread is devoted to not just this debate, but how you feel about the debates overall as we listened to the last two candidates: Obama and Clinton.

[EdRyder]

It was nice to see civility between these two.But as for brownie points,I think Obama won the night.
I think it finally dawned on me that, if we are ever going to have Universal health coverage it'l be through the baby steps that were went over ad nauseum tonight.I find Hillary's proposal just a little disturbing.The idea that- we need to work through or with these Insurance companies under her "mandatory" coverage plan doesn't sit well with me.Thats not how you dig your way out of a relationship,..by sleeping with her one last time...

Barack inadvertently put his foot in his mouth in what was probably the funniest moment of the night.Dont know if you caught it but he was talking about taxing folks who make over $75 thousand,..And what he ended up saying in the end was (paraphrasing)..when these inner city teachers do have to come out of their own pocket for supply's they could afford to do so...Hillarious
I know it wasn't what he meant to say but it was still funny

[Matt]

I'm suprised it didn't get much more dirty.

[Malice]

They probably had an agreement before hand not to go there, because of the negative press they have both been getting for it.

[Venom'sDad]

I don't think they had any form of agreement, first of all, Obama wouldn't trust hillary not to break it. Besides that, I just think hiilary simply chose not to go there. Twice she has gone ugly and it back-fired against her. With "Super Tuesday" at stake, it behoove her to put on a front of civilityand likeability.

Obama has not purposely ran a negative campaign... he's been more re-actionary for the most part and tried to stay above such things; although, the pundits have tried to encourage him to be more aggressive.

So I'm not surprised at all.... not one bit.

[Golgo-13]

Did guys see the footage of Bill Clinton putting that heckler in his place? LOL!

[Rated-X]

Stop the presses! The very latest polling data from California indicates a sharp trend for Obama and against Hillary. Preliminary indications in other states are that the trend is very widespread and not just concentrated on the west coast.

Pollster Scott Rasmussen's survey (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/california/election_2008_california_democratic_presidential_p rimary), conducted January 29, shows Hillary with a bare and dwindling 3 point lead over Obama in California. He has Hillary at 43%, Obama at 40%, and Edwards (the survey was conducted before he dropped out) at 9%. This data compares with a 20 point plus Hillary margin in most polls in California just a few weeks ago.

Other polls have Obama winning Georgia (O-52 H-36) and Alabama (O-40 H--35) with their sizable minority populations, but also very close in Massachusetts, trailing there by only H-43 O-37 and in Montana by only H-40 O-33. National polls also indicate a sharp closing of the race. Gallup has Hillary just six ahead and Rasmussen's national data is even closer.
Edwards' withdrawal will help Obama in all likelihood and, with these poll numbers, he is more likely to endorse Obama.

Of course, a lot will hinge on how well each candidate does in tonight's Democratic debate. But there could be a wrinkle. In most states, the most of the delegates are awarded by Congressional District where the two slates compete and the one with the most votes wins all the delegates from that district. Even if Obama were to carry California by, say 53-47, he might win the black districts by 80-20 and lose most or all of the white districts, giving Hillary the vast bulk of the delegates. Obama would have to get his margin of victory up to 8-10 points to be sure of sweeping the delegates in a given state.

Yet, when all is said and done, the trend lines for Obama are unbelievably positive just a few days before Super Tuesday.

McCain looks like a done deal. He is beating Romney in all five states with recent polls, winning California by 32-28, Illinois by 34-26, Georgia by 35-24, and Tennessee by 33-25. Huckabee is in second place in Tennessee with Romney running last.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/political_commentary/commentary_by_dick_morris/hillary_crashing_in_california

Things are getting interesting. :oldrazz:

[Matt]

Did guys see the footage of Bill Clinton putting that heckler in his place? LOL!

Bill: How would you like it if I came to where you work and had sex with your wife.....I mean boo'ed you?