2008 NFL Thread

[FaT_tONle]

http://mediaoutrage.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/kim-kardashian-grinding-reggie-bush_1_1.jpg


Go Reggie!

Bush is a great looking guy... no suprise he gets that kind of action on a daily basis. If he only was as good on the football field.

[Dark Donnie]

Eagles aren't making that move... it didn't work with T.O... plus they won't give up the 1st rounder like they'd need to... and I think Dan Synder has learned enough with parting away draft picks. Denver is a possibility since they need a big time receiver. Plus Shanahan is probably on the hot seat. Tampa Bay won't make a deal since they don't even have their QB situation settled. Giants wouldn't do it since Reece isn't known for those kinds of moves and neither are the Giants. Plus 31st is probably too low. Any other suiters I am missing? An interesting fit might be Minnesota but I don't think the coach there likes those types of players. Chicago would be a good fit too. I think a second rounder and a player is more than enough. Or maybe a 1st round pick next year. That is if the Bengals decide to take the cap hit.

Eagles, Cowboys, Raiders, and Tampa are interested in trading for Chad according to John Clayton.


Chad Johnson-WR- Bengals Apr. 17 - 10:19 pm et


In addition to the Cowboys and Eagles, the Raiders are reportedly among "several teams" that have expressed interest in Chad Johnson.

The Redskins are almost certainly also in the mix. ESPN's John Clayton says the Bengals still don't want to trade Johnson, but it will be hard to pass on an offer if they're blown away.
Source: ESPN Insider
Related: Cowboys, Raiders, Eagles, Redskins


Brian Urlacher-LB- Bears Apr. 18 - 1:28 am et


While his agents have asked for a trade Brian Urlacher (neck, back) has reportedly suggested that he may consider retirement if the Bears don't follow through on upgrading his contract.

Looks like he's learned meaningless bluster from Lance Briggs. If he proves injured, Urlacher could keep the $13 million in bonuses he got upon signing his six-year extension in 2003. But that will never happen. He's skipping all the Bears' voluntary workouts, which already cost him $50,000, and threatening to sit out mandatory work as well. To make matters worse, Lance Briggs is also sitting out.
Source: Chicago Sun Times
Related: Lance Briggs


Matt Ryan-QB- Player Apr. 17 - 10:15 pm et


There is "no way" the Ravens will pass on Boston College QB Matt Ryan if he falls to No. 8 in the draft, according to ESPN's John Clayton.

Steve McNair's retirement has cost Baltimore even the possibility of smokescreening. If Ryan becomes a Raven, the team will likely look hard at cornerbacks at the start of the second round. With an aging roster, Clayton says the Ravens are "unlikely" to trade up in the first round.
Source: ESPN Insider
Related: Ravens

[Dark Donnie]

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DeSean Jackson-WR- Player Apr. 17 - 8:38 pm et


Citing league sources, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports Rams coach Scott Linehan "likes (DeSean) Jackson a lot."

There are rumblings that St. Louis might trade back into the latter half of the first round to take him. At 5'9/169, Jackson fits the profile of speedy light bodied receivers that new offensive coordinator Al Saunders is fond of.
Source: St. Louis Post Dispatch
Related: Rams





Darren McFadden-RB- Player Apr. 17 - 7:42 pm et


NFL Network's Adam Schefter does not believe the Raiders will take Arkansas RB Darren McFadden if he's available with the No. 4 pick.

Schefter says he's "looking for Vernon Gholston" to be Oakland's choice. Schefter usually has the inside scoop on anything Raiders-related, from reporting Art Shell's firing several weeks in advance to revealing Lane Kiffin and Al Davis' back-and-forth. It'd be hard not to trust him on this.
Related: Jets, Raiders


Jake Long-T- Player Apr. 17 - 7:40 pm et


NFL Network's Adam Schefter believes the Dolphins "would be thrilled" to make Jake Long the No. 1 overall pick and sign him to a contract worth about 3% less than what JaMarcus Russell got last year.

Long continues to be the only player Miami is seriously negotiating with, making him the favorite to go first. However, the Dolphins are thought to have given Long a deadline for a deal to be done. That timeframe is uncertain.
Related: Dolphins


Jared Allen-DL- Chiefs Apr. 17 - 7:21 pm et


NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports the Chiefs are asking for first- and second-round picks in exchange for franchise player Jared Allen.

Allen will command a Dwight Freeney-esque deal (six years, $72 million), so it will be an enormous commitment for a team acquiring him. Schefter says the Vikings' 2008 first- and third-rounders are on the table. He adds that the Jaguars made recent inquiries, but have bowed out for now. If the Chiefs deal Allen, they may target Chris Long or Vernon Gholston at No. 5 overall.
Related: Jaguars, Vikings

[Dark Donnie]

Top 50 Busts of All-Time:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/news/story?id=3325687

[Excel]

That would be wise on Oaklands art in not taking mcfadden, but gholston?? Theyd be better off with ellis or dorsey.

The Oakland after johnson gets more press...my bet is cinci tries to get Davis to give up the #4 pick for him...wouldnt shock if he took it.

[Orson_Randall]

Broncos should make a Run At Jared Allen, just getting out off the Cheifs is a plus though

[kane9321]

Check the jealous white girl in the backround :hehe:

thats kim's lil sis...who i'd bang and bang hard:yay:

[Silver Knight]

That would be wise on Oaklands art in not taking mcfadden, but gholston?? Theyd be better off with ellis or dorsey.

The Oakland after johnson gets more press...my bet is cinci tries to get Davis to give up the #4 pick for him...wouldnt shock if he took it.
Are you serious D-Mac and J-Russ are the future of the Raiders!

[SurfDUI]

thats kim's lil sis...who i'd bang and bang hard:yay:

:hehe:Quicker than Kim

[Orson_Randall]

Top 50 Busts of All-Time:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/news/story?id=3325687
lol@ my Dececed friends father being on the list Bo Matthews...

[Orson_Randall]

Are you serious D-Mac and J-Russ are the future of the Raiders!
The Raiders have no future, untill Al Davis is in the past

[Cmill216]

The Raiders have no future, untill Al Davis is in the past

That was poetic.

*single tear*

[SurfDUI]

The Raiders have no future, untill Al Davis is in the past

He's the NFL's only owner of a a JV squad and he's comming up on birthday #150 let him be.

[Immortalfire]

The Raiders have no future, untill Al Davis is in the past

Then I guess the future is never. I saw a statement from Al saying he won't retire until he wins two more Super Bowls.

:csad:

[Cmill216]

He'll die before that happens. Literally.

[SurfDUI]

He'll die before that happens. Literally.

Well he got to one recently...If you call that a SuperBowl OHHHH-

[Cmill216]

Super Beatdown.

[Immortalfire]

Super Beatdown.

By YOUR Super Bowl 37 universe champion Tampa Bay Buccaneers!!!

[Excel]

Pi gives notice; reggies a lot bigger than people think he is.

Are you serious D-Mac and J-Russ are the future of the Raiders!

Mike Bush n Fargas could combine for 1500 yards easy. J Russ now got Javon; the offense could be legit as is. If they could add a nasty d-lineman the team could be legit as well.

[Orson_Randall]

Then I guess the future is never. I saw a statement from Al saying he won't retire until he wins two more Super Bowls.

:csad:
I don't see him living to see any team winning two superbowls, yet if there is a lord in heaven Al will live another 20 years in a hell on earth never seeing the raiders win more then 10 games in a season, before he is sent to eternal damnation.

[Orson_Randall]

Pi gives notice; reggies a lot bigger than people think he is.



Mike Bush n Fargas could combine for 1500 yards easy. J Russ now got Javon; the offense could be legit as is. If they could add a nasty d-lineman the team could be legit as well.
Javon is not an asset

[Excel]

Yes he is.

[omid17]

Bush is a great looking guy... no suprise he gets that kind of action on a daily basis. If he only was as good on the football field.true

[Orson_Randall]

Yes he is.
trust me, he is a problem not a solution....dude is a idiot on top of injury pron.

[Excel]

Walker wil be money if hes the main man.

[Orson_Randall]

Walker wil be money if hes the main man.
no wonder the raiders suck, they have fans that just drink the Grape kool-aid by the gallon...

Javon is a bum....

[Dark Donnie]

Mister J.

Report: Deal between Dolphins, OT Long close

NBCSports.com's Tom Curran reports the Dolphins are nearing a contract agreement with Michigan OT Jake Long.

The deal would make Long the No. 1 overall pick. The Dolphins began talks with Long's agent, Tom Condon, two weeks ago and never engaged in serious deliberations with any other player. Curran writes that with Long off the board, St. Louis is "a lock" to use the No. 2 pick on a defensive player. UVA DE Chris Long is reportedly "very confident" he'll be the Rams' choice. Apr. 21 - 11:49 am et
Source: NBCSports.com

[cyborg ninja 14]

Is there a point to having any surprises over the #1 pick if we already know who the Dolphins are negociating with?

[Mister J]

I'm fine with either Long, but prefer Jake. We've got holes everywhere, but that O-Line was awful last year.

[Orson_Randall]

I'm fine with either Long, but prefer Jake. We've got holes everywhere, but that O-Line was awful last year.
Glenn Dorsey is the top talent in the Draft...he should be the #1 pick

[Mister J]

:lmao:

[Orson_Randall]

:lmao:
you dissagree?

[Alex The Great]

Mister J laughs at your statement. which means we ALL laugh


hey, monkey see, monkey do! Evva heard that? :cmad:

[FaT_tONle]

It's gonna be Long... Long... Ryan... Dorsey/Gholston... Clady/Dorsey... D.Mac... Pats will take the corner probably.

[omid17]

It's gonna be Long... Long... Ryan... Dorsey/Gholston... Clady/Dorsey... D.Mac... Pats will take the corner probably. im just glad they got the 7th pick, i hope they go undefeated next season, even though they lost one of their best player Samuel :csad:

[Alex The Great]

right now i think the pats'll go.....13-3/12-4. 14-2 at best. the team just feels.....weaker.

[omid17]

right now i think the pats'll go.....13-3/12-4. 14-2 at best. the team just feels.....weaker.they lost Stallworth, Samuel, K. Brady, and im sure JR Seau is done, but the Pats are good making their new players a lot better, so it might take time but i still believe that they can try to go for a perfect season

[Alex The Great]

i just don't see it :csad:.

[omid17]

i just don't see it :csad:.did anyone think that the Pats would almost have a perfect season last year :cwink:

[Alex The Great]

well......alot of people did. actually. but Excel don't count cuz he's a doof :o

[omid17]

well......alot of people did. actually. but Excel don't count cuz he's a doof :othe only tuff teams they're facing this year are the cowboys and the colts and thats it i think

[Alex The Great]

don't they face the seahawks?

[NewYorkSpider]

Patriots aren't going undefeated this year. The Jets have improved greatly and almost beat the Patriots at FoxBoro last season. They also have to travel to San Deigo and Indianapolis. Tom Brady always has trouble against Denver. Are they winnable games? Absoultly. I just don't see it happening though.

[omid17]

don't they face the seahawks?them too but imo their QB is overrated, but i still think the Pats will beat them, i aint worried about Seattle

[Alex The Great]

what he said

[FaT_tONle]

Pats have to play Pitt, @SD, @Indy, @Seattle, Arizona, Jets 2X... that's 3 losses right there. Then they'll probably slip up twice against suprise teams or some bull**** teams that manage to steal a game along the way... I'd say 13-3 at best and 10-6 at worst.

[NewYorkSpider]

Where are you getting Jacksonville and Tennessee from? :huh:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/teams/schedule?team=nwe&year=2008

[FaT_tONle]

I thought they were playing the South... chill...

[Alex The Great]

it's ok NYS. he's just to fat to get the correct schedule. Lazy BUM! :cmad::oldrazz:

[NewYorkSpider]

I thought they were playing the South... chill...

But I didn't raise my voice while asking you the question.

[omid17]

But I didn't raise my voice while asking you the question.lol iknow don't worry NYS your always chill man

[FaT_tONle]

it's ok NYS. he's just to fat to get the correct schedule. Lazy BUM! :cmad::oldrazz:

I should have figured... NFL fanatics these days... gotto have the schedule of every damn team memorized if you consider yourself a real fan. I'm usually spot on with this stuff though... give me a year... any year from 02 on and I'll name that teams opponents within five minutes without googling if you trust me.

[The Game]

well......alot of people did. actually. but Excel don't count cuz he's a doof :o

LIES, everyone thought they would be a tough team to beat, but nobody at the start of the season had them 16-0, that only started up after the Colts match.

[Showtime]

Pats have to play Pitt, @SD, @Indy, @Seattle, Arizona, Jets 2X... that's 3 losses right there. Then they'll probably slip up twice against suprise teams or some bull**** teams that manage to steal a game along the way... I'd say 13-3 at best and 10-6 at worst.

Jets? :hehe:

[Erzengel]

Actually, I think the Jets hit rock bottom last year and between the trades made in the off season and the draft, I think in a year or 2 between them and the Dolphins, the AFC East will finally be competitive again.

Edit: Not to mention the Bills I thought got some good pick ups as well. :huh:

[kane9321]

cmon 49ers....Quentin Groves

[Showtime]

Actually, I think the Jets hit rock bottom last year and between the trades made in the off season and the draft, I think in a year or 2 between them and the Dolphins, the AFC East will finally be competitive again.

Edit: Not to mention the Bills I thought got some good pick ups as well. :huh:

None of the teams in the AFC East seem to be that much of a threat to the Patriots this coming season. That being said, we know that nothing is set in stone. :csad:

[Dark Donnie]

None of the teams in the AFC East seem to be that much of a threat to the Patriots this coming season. That being said, we know that nothing is set in stone. :csad:

quit being modest.........the Pats will win the East by at least 4-6 games:o

[Mister J]

None of the teams in the AFC East seem to be that much of a threat to the Patriots this coming season. That being said, we know that nothing is set in stone. :csad:
Damn straight it ain't! :cmad:

Seriously, I'd be ecstatic with just 5 wins. :csad:

[Showtime]

quit being modest.........the Pats will win the East by at least 4-6 games:o

Football is a crazy sport, I will never resort to being "one of those fans". :csad:

Damn straight it ain't! :cmad:

Seriously, I'd be ecstatic with just 5 wins. :csad:

Been there as a fan.

[Orson_Randall]

Pat's are not going to go undefeated! never have, never will!

The Broncos are goint to go 13-3, mark my words...(unless we lose 5 games by a FG since we let Elam go :( )

[Dark Donnie]

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David Pollack-LB-Bengals Apr. 22 - 12:13 pm et

Bengals DE/SLB David Pollack has decided to retire.

Coach Marvin Lewis confirmed that Pollack is "headed to retirement." A 2005 first-round pick, Pollack fractured his C6 vertebrae two years ago. The Georgia alum wound up playing in 17 games with 29 tackles and four sacks.
Source: Cincinnati Enquirer

[Immortalfire]

...

Probably the best move. Here's to ya David :up:

[Raiden]

quit being modest.........the Pats will win the East by at least 4-6 games:o

Unfortunately, even with all those FA signings, I don't think Jets will come close to challenge Pats for AFC East. Not when they don't even have a reliable QB yet...

[Dark Donnie]

Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com reports that the Dolphins and Jake Long have agreed to a five-year deal.

If true, Long will be the first offensive lineman drafted in the top spot since Orlando Pace in 1997. Long, a 6-7, 315-pound tackle from Michigan, will immediately step in on Miami's left side.

Best pick they could have made

[Orson_Randall]

Best pick they could have made

will you still say that 20 years from now as Dorsey is being placed in the HOF?

[Excel]

The left tackles the 2nd most important position in the NFL. This will greatly help out any qb they get, therefore helping out any recievers. Itll great help out Ronnie Brown...its a big impact position.

[SurfDUI]

None of the teams in the AFC East seem to be that much of a threat to the Patriots this coming season. That being said, we know that nothing is set in stone. :csad:


Well I think the 3 of them will do a might better than last season. They got the WTF award from the rest of the league for there division play. MIA plays the Pats tough- I hope the J.E.T.S.'s offseason moves will get them a couple more wins....Screw a Pat:hehe:

Pat's are not going to go undefeated! never have, never will!

The Broncos are goint to go 13-3, mark my words...(unless we lose 5 games by a FG since we let Elam go :( )

Bronco's- please:woot:. There ain't a team in the AFC South that can't beat the Bronco's-and Texans would barley pull one out.

[Raiden]

Best pick they could have made

I hope he will work out better than Ferguson has in NY.

[Orson_Randall]

The left tackles the 2nd most important position in the NFL. This will greatly help out any qb they get, therefore helping out any recievers. Itll great help out Ronnie Brown...its a big impact position.
true, and MIA has a decent D already...don't see there offense doing much in the near future...but this will help for sure..

[Dark Donnie]

will you still say that 20 years from now as Dorsey is being placed in the HOF?

Yeah, Jake Long is a monster, but he could be a bust just as easy as Dorsey could be though. Dorsey had a pretty down year last season, probably would have been the first pick if it wasn't for last season and his injury history.

Like Excel said the Left Tackle is one of the most important positions on the field, your protecting your QB's blindside.

[Showtime]

Best pick they could have made

Agree 100%. Smartest move to make.

[StorminNorman]

will you still say that 20 years from now as Dorsey is being placed in the HOF?

:lmao:

[FaT_tONle]

Jets? :hehe:

Obviously people have no respect for the Jets and rightly so... but other than the occassional 4-12 teams... they are a fiesty team that can be a playoff contender more often than not.

[StorminNorman]

The left tackles the 2nd most important position in the NFL. This will greatly help out any qb they get, therefore helping out any recievers. Itll great help out Ronnie Brown...its a big impact position.

I would argue that a good LT is even more important than a QB. A decent QB can win a team a Superbowl (Big Ben, Trent Dilfer, etc.) - a decent QB is going to do nothing, however, without a LT.

[StorminNorman]

NFL Draft Countdowns Sleeper Team:

Quarterback: Nick Hill, Southern Illinois
Running Back: Tony Temple, Missouri
Fullback: Mike Cox, Georgia Tech
Wide Receiver: Lance Leggett, Miami (FL)
Wide Receiver: Edward Williams, Lane
Tight End: Mike Peterson, NW Missouri St.
Offensive Tackle: Shannon Boatman, Florida St.
Offensive Tackle: Chester Adams, Georgia
Offensive Guard: Kerry Brown, Appalachian St.
Offensive Guard: Mackenzy Bernadeau, Bentley
Center: Fernando Velasco, Georgia
Kicker: Steven Hauschka, North Carolina St.
Defensive End: Brian Johnston, Gardner-Webb
Defensive End: Eric Foster, Rutgers
Defensive Tackle: Jason Shirley, Fresno St.
Defensive Tackle: Maurice Murray, New Mexico St.
Outside Linebacker: Lamar Myles, Louisville
Outside Linebacker: Marcus Richardson, Troy
Inside Linebacker: Rodrick Johnson, Oklahoma St.
Cornerback: Jerrid Gaines, Miami (OH)
Cornerback: Trey Brown, UCLA
Safety: Nate Lyles, Virginia
Safety: Pig Brown, Missouri
Punter: Brett Kern, Toledo
Return Specialist: Darrell Blackman, North Carolina St.
Return Specialist: Brian Witherspoon, Stillman
Long-Snapper: Garrison Sanborn, Florida St.

[Memphis Slim]

WORST NUMBER DRAFT PICKS IN NFL HISTORY......

http://nfldraft.rivals.com/photofeature.asp?SID=1164&fid=22666

I don't agree with everyone on this list.....what do you think?

[SurfDUI]

WORST NUMBER DRAFT PICKS IN NFL HISTORY......

http://nfldraft.rivals.com/photofeature.asp?SID=1164&fid=22666

I don't agree with everyone on this list.....what do you think?

MCELLYSLIM ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBA...:csad: nfl draft- we don't pick until late second round:cmad:.

Man damn, yall can leave M.Vick alone, damn, we are in a war, the brotha is in the pen, he should not have been #10, Akillil Smith anyone. And David Carr had one of the worst offensive lines in the leage, he lead the NFL for two years in sacks didn't he. He tried. All that ass plantin would make anybody gunshy at the beginning of there career no less.

[cyborg ninja 14]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3356558
Can someone explain to me the appeal of nightclubs that causes so many athletes to make irrational and clearly misinformed judgements? This happens way to much.

[Orson_Randall]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3356558
Can someone explain to me the appeal of nightclubs that causes so many athletes to make irrational and clearly misinformed judgements? This happens way to much.

ever heard of Groupies, and heterosexual males in there 20's?+

[Erzengel]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3356558
Can someone explain to me the appeal of nightclubs that causes so many athletes to make irrational and clearly misinformed judgements? This happens way to much.
They like the nightlife. They like to boogie. :huh:

[cyborg ninja 14]

ever heard of Groupies, and heterosexual males in there 20's?+

They like the nightlife. They like to boogie. :huh:

Obviously, but that doesn't constitute going bat**** crazy and getting arrested.

[SurfDUI]

Can someone explain to me the appeal of nightclubs that causes so many athletes to make irrational and clearly misinformed judgements? This happens way to much.


It's a cultural thing. In the same vein I'd ask why so many still get busted for violating the leagues substance abuse policies.

When your a young guy, you hang out, you wan't to hear your kind of music and you WAN'T TO BE SEEN by the ho's, Cloud 9 is one of the psudo upscale joints in Indianapolis, such the backward statement as it is. You made it and now you want people to know you made it.

The down side is that some of these fools start to bigtyme- "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM", which lends to obviously not if you have to go to that statement. When you circulate w/ other crews, bad ish is bound to happen, it's a slight catch 22, but then too, not lettin Keith get a pass, for the Jamal Tinsley D-bag award, but he's a young guy. You don't hear about 'Real' stars, like Marvin or Reggie get in the B.S., cause w/ age comes some wisdom...

I blame Regan.:hehe:

[Immortalfire]

They like to boogie.

Who doesn't?

[KALEL114]

Seahawks cut ties with all-time leading rusher Alexander.

Two seasons after being the NFL's MVP, Shaun Alexander is looking for work. The Seattle Seahawks released the franchise's all-time leading rusher on Tuesday, reports NFL Network's Adam Schefter.

There has been talk of the Seahawks cutting ties with Alexander since the team signed running backs Julius Jones and T.J. Duckett in free agency last month.

After Alexander set a then-NFL record with 28 touchdowns and a franchise record of 1,880 yards rushing, he signed a $62 million, eight-year contract before the 2006 season.

Alexander, 30, was scheduled to earn $4,475,000 in 2008.

Alexander has had two injury-filled and ineffective seasons since signing his deal, including last season in which he ran for just 716 yards in 13 games. That was his lowest total since he replaced Ricky Watters as Seattle's lead back in 2001.

Jones signed a four-year deal worth up ot $16 million, while Duckett got a five-year deal. The team also has Maurice Morris, who rushed for 628 yards last year, back.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d807e8d82&template=with-video&confirm=true

[FaT_tONle]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d807eb389&template=with-video&confirm=true

1st bomb shell of the week? Too bad Long is off the boards... Chiefs could have landed him if they wanted too. This doesn't change much. I don't see why you trade a player like that though... makes no sense. Once you find out what the Vikings gave up it is a little clearer. Giving up half your draft is certainly a gamble.

[NewYorkSpider]

Actually, I think the Jets hit rock bottom last year and between the trades made in the off season and the draft, I think in a year or 2 between them and the Dolphins, the AFC East will finally be competitive again.

Edit: Not to mention the Bills I thought got some good pick ups as well. :huh:

Bills will challenge for a wild card spot. They don't have to bad of a schedule when you look at it. I see them at 9-7.

[Excel]

Buffalo could be dirty depending on the reciever they take. If they go with Malcolm Kelly for a big possession reciever opposite Lee Evans, theyll have an effective offense. Lynch is a stud.

Yeah, Jake Long is a monster, but he could be a bust just as easy as Dorsey could be though. Dorsey had a pretty down year last season, probably would have been the first pick if it wasn't for last season and his injury history.

LT have the advantage of no stats. They dont have to throw, run, or catch touchdowns. Long might struggle against the fastest defenders, but overall should be fine. he is HUGE.

will you still say that 20 years from now as Dorsey is being placed in the HOF?

The defenive player justifiable at taking #1 was Chris Long.

[Dark Donnie]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d807eb389&template=with-video&confirm=true

1st bomb shell of the week? Too bad Long is off the boards... Chiefs could have landed him if they wanted too. This doesn't change much. I don't see why you trade a player like that though... makes no sense. Once you find out what the Vikings gave up it is a little clearer. Giving up half your draft is certainly a gamble.

Allen stated he wasn't resigning with The Chiefs. Good move for them I think. Allen is a DUI away from a year suspension.

[SurfDUI]

Ahhh jus some news we all already knew:hehe:

http://www.thestarpress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080423/NEWS06/80423005/1002/NEWS01

http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/mag/franchiseRanks?sport=nfl&year=2008

[SurfDUI]

http://www.dimensionsmagazine.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41033&stc=1&d=1208830974

You Go ELLEY, Congratulations

[Showtime]

Unfortunately that only translated into one Superbowl over the past decade.

For some reason the Patriots are going to announced the signing of Marcus Pollard?

They are also on the verge of signing Ty Law.

[SurfDUI]

Unfortunately that only translated into one Superbowl over the past decade.

Awww...Think of the talk if that hadn't happend.
It's not enough they are annual 'Kings of the South'

For some reason the Patriots are going to announced the signing of Marcus Pollard?

They are also on the verge of signing Ty Law.

Pollard, he was on his last leg w/ us.
Bellicheat's reachin-

[Excel]

They are also on the verge of signing Ty Law.

http://www.myfoxboston.com/myfox/pages/Sports/Detail?contentId=6370549&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=6.1.1

worddd

[Alex The Great]

Ahhh jus some news we all already knew:hehe:

http://www.thestarpress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080423/NEWS06/80423005/1002/NEWS01

http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/mag/franchiseRanks?sport=nfl&year=2008
what the?! Who let you in this thread? :cmad:

[Alex The Great]

Unfortunately that only translated into one Superbowl over the past decade.

For some reason the Patriots are going to announced the signing of Marcus Pollard?

They are also on the verge of signing Ty Law.
Law to the Pats. say this is true Mister Sanders!

[FaT_tONle]

How do you guys want a guy like that back? Its laughable... doing exactly the same thing the Yankees started doing in 2003... you'd have to be an idiot if you think washed up veterans are going to just come back and get the job done. Its always a disaster. Well suit yourselves... I can't wait for the December and January meltdowns to happen...

[Alex The Great]

Randy Moss was a smashed up Vet before 07. and look wat happened. badda bing badda boom :cmad::yay:

[NewYorkSpider]

Randy Moss was a smashed up Vet before 07. and look wat happened. badda bing badda boom :cmad::yay:

No. He just played on the worst team in the league and didn't give a ****.

[Cmill216]

WORST NUMBER DRAFT PICKS IN NFL HISTORY......

http://nfldraft.rivals.com/photofeature.asp?SID=1164&fid=22666

I don't agree with everyone on this list.....what do you think?

I don't get Vick being on there. I mean, granted, he put the franchise in a bad position now, but for five years he made them a perennial playoff contender, pulled off a historical win in Lambeau, and took them to the NFC Championship game.

[FaT_tONle]

Randy Moss was a smashed up Vet before 07. and look wat happened. badda bing badda boom :cmad::yay:

Yeah playing in Oakland is a good barometer for a Hall of Famer (before last year I might add) that was still 30/31... please... have fun with these guys.... bring back Troy Brown while you are at it... Bledsoe to back up Brady again. I am gonna love seeing those guys fall flat on their faces, again, again... and again... :cwink:

[Cmill216]

have fun with these guys.... bring back Troy Brown while you are at it... Bledsoe to back up Brady again. I am gonna love seeing those guys fall flat on their faces, again, again... and again... :cwink:

I can't wait for the December and January meltdowns to happen...

Damn. You lose the Super Bowl on a lucky ass catch, and now you're suddenly the laughing stock of the league.

Woe is New England. :dry:

[FaT_tONle]

Damn. You lose the Super Bowl on a lucky ass catch, and now you're suddenly the laughing stock of the league.

Woe is New England. :dry:

When did I say laughing stock? Bottom line is... when you have had the sucess they have had... 10-6 isn't going to be good enough anymore. Who cares if they go 11-5 in that crap ass division? Is anyone going back to those Yankee division titles in 2001-2007? Do I think they are still a 12-4 team? Yes. Do I think they can get bounced in the divisional round? Yes. A resounding yes for that matter.

[DarthRekal]

Pacman a Cowboy???

[Alex The Great]

hey Darth, if this is true, we need to go give a hug to Mee. poor fellow will die of sadness. :csad::o

[Erzengel]

Damn. You lose the Super Bowl on a lucky ass catch, and now you're suddenly the laughing stock of the league.

Woe is New England. :dry:
Like I said once before, it made people forget them losing an 18 point lead in the AFC Championship last year. :huh:

[FaT_tONle]

Pacman a Cowboy???

See this in another case in example... Jerry thinks his team has Superbowl potential... so let me go back to stacking my team up with thugs that have nothing left to contribute whom will be suspended half the time whom will also break up the chemistry in the locker room... on top of that... let me deal a fourth round draft pick for a guy who is going to be in jail two years down the line... and another five years down the line again. This is why Jerry probably won't win another one either unless Romo bails him out one of these years. Can't wait till this guy muffs a punt week 17... nice move Jerry... nice freaking move...

[Alex The Great]

thanks for the reminder :down:csad:

[Cmill216]

Like I said once before, it made people forget them losing an 18 point lead in the AFC Championship last year. :huh:

Woe is New England.

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8616/085391110026je9.jpg

[FaT_tONle]

Pat fans can keep living in the past when they look back at the championships years... considering its going to be a long time before they'll be seeing any of those things again.

[Erzengel]

Eh Pats fans are just like any fans whose teams starts to falter after a series of wins. Just some fans have trouble coping after getting use to a few wins.

[Cmill216]

Pat fans can keep living in the past considering its going to be a long time before they'll be seeing any of those things again.

Not a Pats fan. Just an observer.

So they lost their last two big games. *single tear*

History will still show they were the team of their respective decade, and they'll still compete for another title this year. It's not like all of a sudden they're the Buffalo Bills.

[KALEL114]

Here's the jest of it.

Maybe Big D can handle Pacman Jones.

The Dallas Cowboys and Tennessee Titans agreed in principle on a trade on Wednesday for the suspended cornerback.

The agreement, which was first reported by ESPN's Ed Werder, was confirmed to The Associated Press by both teams. No terms had been filed with the NFL office, which already had closed for the day.


Sources tell Werder that Dallas will send its fourth-round pick (the 126th overall) in Saturday's draft to the Titans for Jones.


There are also conditions attached to the trade related to Jones being reinstated by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and how much he plays for the Cowboys. If he plays a significant amount of time in 2008, the Titans will get an additional pick from the Cowboys in 2009.

If he doesn't get reinstated by the NFL, the Titans will send an undisclosed 2009 draft pick back to the Cowboys.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3364138

[KALEL114]

See this in another case in example... Jerry thinks his team has Superbowl potential... so let me go back to stacking my team up with thugs that have nothing left to contribute whom will be suspended half the time whom will also break up the chemistry in the locker room... on top of that... let me deal a fourth round draft pick for a guy who is going to be in jail two years down the line... and another five years down the line again. This is why Jerry probably won't win another one either unless Romo bails him out one of these years. Can't wait till this guy muffs a punt week 17... nice move Jerry... nice freaking move...
I think you are being a little too harsh here. He has alot to contribute. In particular our sorry secondary. I think it can only help us. I think everything you said was said by others when we picked up Tank Johnson. Has he destroyed the teams chemistry or got into more trouble? No. Let's wait and see what happens before we jump the gun.

[FaT_tONle]

Not a Pats fan. Just an observer.

So they lost their last two big games. *single tear*

History will still show they were the team of their respective decade, and they'll still compete for another title this year. It's not like all of a sudden they're the Buffalo Bills.

No one is debating that... I am not even debating with you for that matter. I am talking to whiny Patriot fans who think they are entitled to more success. Think they deserved that Superbowl because they didn't. Just like the spoiled Yankee fans... or Cowboy fans in the 90's (I would know and you would not). I just think the chamionship years are over. If they don't do it this year or next year Brady will be too old to build a whole new team around him by then. Prove me wrong and go out and win another one. Signing players like Ty Law only convinces me otherwise.

[chuckymack]

The Pats are undeniably the team of the decade. However, they'll be remembered just as much for the one that got away.

As a Bengals fan, I'd take that in a heartbeat over decade upon decade of predominant futility.

[FaT_tONle]

I think you are being a little too harsh here. He has alot to contribute. In particular our sorry secondary. I think it can only help us. I think everything you said was said by others when we picked up Tank Johnson. Has he destroyed the teams chemistry or got into more trouble? No. Let's wait and see what happens before we jump the gun.

Wait and see what happens? No is is going to wait and see what happens when they see this douche fumbling the football... has Owens had one big catch in a big game with the Cowboys yet? No... this is what these players do... they talk... they bring attention to themselves... and they get exposed in the big game because they can't handle the pressure. If one of our starters go down and you have to start depending on a guy like Pac Man... and if the distractions off the field because of this guy... it will add pressure to the ENTIRE team to account for that on a weekly basis by backing him up in front of cameras in the locker rooms... these "me first" players always fail to get the job done. I am not saying don't take chances at all... you need talent to make the playoffs. But if Jerry doesn't rid these players asap after he gets his one or two years out of them its trouble.

[NewYorkSpider]

No one is debating that... I am not even debating with you for that matter. I am talking to whiny Patriot fans who think they are entitled to more success. Think they deserved that Superbowl because they didn't. Just like the spoiled Yankee fans... or Cowboy fans in the 90's (I would know and you would not). I just think the chamionship years are over. If they don't do it this year or next year Brady will be too old to build a whole new team around him by then. Prove me wrong and go out and win another one. Signing players like Ty Law only convinces me more though.

You think it's are fault they spend all that money and get the good players? :whatever: Am I supposed to stop cheering for my team beacause people like you think we're spoiled. Since we got Giambi, A-Rod, Abreu and Matsui, have we won a championship? It's people like you that make me want the Yankees to win more and more every year just so I can rub it in your face.

[FaT_tONle]

You think it's are fault they spend all that money and get the good players? :whatever: Am I supposed to stop cheering for my team beacause people like you think we're spoiled. Since we got Giambi, A-Rod, Abreu and Matsui, have we won a championship? It's people like you that make me want the Yankees to win more and more every year just so I can rub it in your face.

How old are you? It doesn't matter because you are one of the true Yankee fans and its in your family's blood anyways. I am talking about the losers, some FOB's I know, these whiny teenage girls, that jumped on board in 1998. Makes me sink... some of these people don't even know what team Don Mattingly played for. I want you to rub it in when it happens... when A-Rod wins the big one... I'll be happy for him... well not really... but my problem isn't with you though.

[KALEL114]

Wait and see what happens? No is is going to wait and see what happens when they see this douche fumbling the football... has Owens had one big catch in a big game with the Cowboys yet? No... this is what these players do... they talk... they bring attention to themselves... and they get exposed in the big game because they can't handle the pressure. If one of our starters go down and you have to start depending on a guy like Pac Man... and if the distractions off the field because of this guy... it will add pressure to the ENTIRE team to account for that on a weekly basis having to back him up... these "me first" players always fail to get the job done. I am not saying don't take chances at all... you need talent to make the playoffs. But if Jerry doesn't rid these players asap after he gets his one or two years out of them its trouble.
Yes, see what happens. It is better than having a coronary like you are having with all the "ifs". We are getting a top tier CB with a 4th round pick. Yes, he has had off the field problems in the past, but that doesn't mean he will go right back to the way he was. He knows his career will be done if he gets into trouble again. We need alot of help in the secondary. We just got it.

[Alex The Great]

Place Your Bets Here! Will Miami Screw There First Round Pick Again?! Place Your Bets Here Folks!

[NewYorkSpider]

How old are you? It doesn't matter because you are one of the true Yankee fans and its in your family's blood anyways. I am talking about the losers, some FOB's I know, these whiny teenage girls, that jumped on board in 1996. Makes me sink... some of these people don't even know what team Don Mattingly played for. I want you to rub it in when it happens... when A-Rod win's the big one... I'll be happy for him... well not really... but my problem isn't with you though.

You just made it sound like all Yankee fans were spoiled. I'm 22 years old. I became a Yankee fan back in the early 90's, but never really paid attention to baseball as much untill I started playing it in 1995(Little League). Then I really became a fan when I took my first trip to Yankee Stadium in 1997. It was the first year of interleague and my friends parents took me to see the Braves/Yankees play.

[FaT_tONle]

Yes, see what happens. It is better than having a coronary like you are having with all the "ifs". We are getting a top tier CB with a 4th round pick. Yes, he has had off the field problems in the past, but that doesn't mean he will go right back to the way he was. He knows his career will be done if he gets into trouble again. We need alot of help in the secondary. We just got it.

Thing is... I'd be having coronaries if Jerry left the corner situation as it is... being that he can't draft for **** without a Jimmy Johnson or a Bill Parcells evaluating talent for him.

[KALEL114]

Thing is... I'd be having coronaries if Jerry left the corner situation as it is... being that he can't draft for **** without a Jimmy Johnson or a Bill Parcells evaluating talent for him.
That we can agree on. :up:
Steven Jackson :csad:

[Excel]

The Pats just went 16-0, were given a joke schedule, and only major losses were Asante n Stallworth but have appearently added Ty Law and have the #7 pick in the draft. Anybody thinking we go 12-4 without any injuries Brady or Moss is kidding themselves.

I predict the Pats to be BETTER next year. They will be more balanced.

Bounced in the divisional round, heh :down

[NewYorkSpider]

Patriots will go 14-2 at best. I don't see them going undefeated again.

[Excel]

Based on rumros and barring no trades, heres how I see the top 10 picks going:

1. Miami - Jake Long
2. St. Louis - Chris Long
3. Atlanta - Glenn Dorsey
4. Oakland - Sedrick Ellis
5. Kansas City - Brandon Albert
6. New York Jets- Darren McFadden
7. New England - Vernon Gholston
8. Baltimore - Matt Ryan
9. Cincinatti - Rashard Mendenhall
10. New Orleans - Leodis McKelvin
10.

[Erzengel]

The Pats just went 16-0, were given a joke schedule, and only major losses were Asante n Stallworth but have appearently added Ty Law and have the #7 pick in the draft. Anybody thinking we go 12-4 without any injuries Brady or Moss is kidding themselves.

I predict the Pats to be BETTER next year. They will be more balanced.

Bounced in the divisional round, heh :down
Uh isn't better than 18-1, 19-0 meaning you think the Pats will go undefeated and win the Superbowl next year? :huh:

[FaT_tONle]

The Pats just went 16-0, were given a joke schedule, and only major losses were Asante n Stallworth but have appearently added Ty Law and have the #7 pick in the draft. Anybody thinking we go 12-4 without any injuries Brady or Moss is kidding themselves.

I predict the Pats to be BETTER next year. They will be more balanced.

Bounced in the divisional round, heh :down

19-0... heh :cwink:

[Dark Donnie]

Based on rumros and barring no trades, heres how I see the top 10 picks going:

1. Miami - Jake Long
2. St. Louis - Chris Long
3. Atlanta - Glenn Dorsey
4. Oakland - Sedrick Ellis
5. Kansas City - Brandon Albert
6. New York Jets- Darren McFadden
7. New England - Vernon Gholston
8. Baltimore - Matt Ryan
9. Cincinatti - Rashard Mendenhall
10. New Orleans - Leodis McKelvin
10.

All signs point to Dorsey going two, and Gholston not making it past Oakland....at least as of this morning.

[The Game]

19-0... heh :cwink:

Well they have trademarked 19-0 so you know

[Erzengel]

They tried to, but I don't think they could. :huh:

[The Game]

You just made it sound like all Yankee fans were spoiled. I'm 22 years old. I became a Yankee fan back in the early 90's, but never really paid attention to baseball as much untill I started playing it in 1995(Little League). Then I really became a fan when I took my first trip to Yankee Stadium in 1997. It was the first year of interleague and my friends parents took me to see the Braves/Yankees play.

Dude don't get baited into proving you are a 'true' fan, as long as you are secure in your allegiance then thats all that matters.

[The Game]

They tried to, but I don't think they could. :huh:

Oh ok, why would the Pats even want to do that, it is a stupid thing to do IMO

[Erzengel]

Because they thought they were going to be the first 19-0 team. *shrug*

[The Game]

Because they thought they were going to be the first 19-0 team. *shrug*

Fair enough, but to try and trademark it seems a bit arrogant

[Immortalfire]

Gentlemen, you may now discuss the draft here. (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=301118)

[Excel]

Uh isn't better than 18-1, 19-0 meaning you think the Pats will go undefeated and win the Superbowl next year? :huh:

Yup :up:

[cyborg ninja 14]

Here's the jest of it.

Maybe Big D can handle Pacman Jones.

The Dallas Cowboys and Tennessee Titans agreed in principle on a trade on Wednesday for the suspended cornerback.

The agreement, which was first reported by ESPN's Ed Werder, was confirmed to The Associated Press by both teams. No terms had been filed with the NFL office, which already had closed for the day.


Sources tell Werder that Dallas will send its fourth-round pick (the 126th overall) in Saturday's draft to the Titans for Jones.


There are also conditions attached to the trade related to Jones being reinstated by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and how much he plays for the Cowboys. If he plays a significant amount of time in 2008, the Titans will get an additional pick from the Cowboys in 2009.

If he doesn't get reinstated by the NFL, the Titans will send an undisclosed 2009 draft pick back to the Cowboys.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3364138

**** Jerry Jones, I'm glad he cares about acquiring players who have a history of trouble with no moral or personal integrity. (also: Tank Johnson)

[Kaleb]

Somewhere, John Madden is smiling. And eating. While smiling.

Madden’s long-time football I-just-wish-I-could-quit-you guy, Brett Favre, will adorn the cover of the Madden 2009 video game, according to SportsBusiness Daily.

So what will the potential Madden jinx be for a guy who won’t be playing football in 2008? (We’re not asking it rhetorically — we’re giving you guys an opener for some creative and/or smart-alecky comments.)





lol

[Dark Donnie]

Lito Sheppard-DB- Eagles Apr. 24 - 4:12 pm et


Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com reports that Tampa Bay has become the frontrunner for Lito Sheppard.
Glazer reports that Sheppard was visiting with the Buccaneers on Wednesday, and that a trade could go down by Saturday. He speculates that it will take at least a second round pick to get a deal done, and the Bucs have the 21st (52nd overall) pick in the second round.
Source: FOXSports.com
Related: Buccaneers

Lito is worth more then the 52nd pick, so hopefully they don't go through with it. However there just going to package any pick they get to get another 1st so I guess it doesn't really matter when the 2nd round pick is.

[FaT_tONle]

Eagles might as well keep the guy unless they are getting a big time receiver as part of the deal... when you have three corners of that calibur... the pretty much can island both sidelines and load the middle... allowing more help in the slot. I mean a 2nd round pick is good... but eventually they are gonna need to draft theat nickel guy anyhow... are you really gonna get a shutdown guy in the 2nd or third round? I don't know who their other corner is right now but I'd keep Sheppard unless the deal is too good to pass.

[omid17]

Yup :up::up:

[Nightmare]

Wonder how far the cowboys will go with pacman now. Im gonna go with a first round exit. I know its a stretch, but im gonna guess its one and done for the cowboys.

[omid17]

Wonder how far the cowboys will go with pacman now. Im gonna go with a first round exit. I know its a stretch, but im gonna guess its one and done for the cowboys.Jerry Jones gets whoever he wants, whenever he wants

[Dark Donnie]

Eagles might as well keep the guy unless they are getting a big time receiver as part of the deal... when you have three corners of that calibur... the pretty much can island both sidelines and load the middle... allowing more help in the slot. I mean a 2nd round pick is good... but eventually they are gonna need to draft theat nickel guy anyhow... are you really gonna get a shutdown guy in the 2nd or third round? I don't know who their other corner is right now but I'd keep Sheppard unless the deal is too good to pass.

There other corner is Sheldon Brown, who is pretty damn good to. The real issue is Lito wants a new contract, which is the main reason there trying to deal him.

[FaT_tONle]

I meant the guy behind the 3 they have already... I figured Lito needs a new contract? Is this his final year of his Eagle contract or no?

[Dark Donnie]

I meant the guy behind the 3 they have already... I figured Lito needs a new contract? Is this his final year of his Eagle contract or no?

Joselio Hansen, an ok player...he shoudl be fine as a 4th CB. They plan on using one of there first picks on CB, possibly 1st depending on who is left.

Shepperds contract actually runs through 2011, which is why the organization is upset.

[NewYorkSpider]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6d/Madden_NFL_09_Coverart.jpg/256px-Madden_NFL_09_Coverart.jpg

[Showtime]

Wow this time the curse worked ahead of time.

[Showtime]

Like I said once before, it made people forget them losing an 18 point lead in the AFC Championship last year. :huh:

I wonder if it made them forget that the Patriots have been in 5 of the last 7 of those AFC Championship games? :huh:

[Showtime]

Patriots will go 14-2 at best. I don't see them going undefeated again.

There is no way the Patriots have an undefeated season again, nevermind any other team in the league.

[Showtime]

Pat fans can keep living in the past when they look back at the championships years... considering its going to be a long time before they'll be seeing any of those things again.

Aren't you the one who keeps talking about the Jets being a tough team?

[Showtime]

How do you guys want a guy like that back? Its laughable... doing exactly the same thing the Yankees started doing in 2003... you'd have to be an idiot if you think washed up veterans are going to just come back and get the job done. Its always a disaster. Well suit yourselves... I can't wait for the December and January meltdowns to happen...

Just because the Yankees folded into obscurity and the Red Sox are now the new team to beat in the East doesn't really have anything to do with the Patriots? :csad:

[Erzengel]

I wonder if it made them forget that the Patriots have been in 5 of the last 7 of those AFC Championship games? :huh:

Just because the Yankees folded into obscurity and the Red Sox are now the new team to beat in the East doesn't really have anything to do with the Patriots? :csad:

And yet the Yankees have been in the Playoffs the last 13 straight seasons. :o

I didn't mean my first comment maliciously. But I know how upset Pats fans were last year and probably thought there wasn't anywhere to go but up.

[Showtime]

And yet the Yankees have been in the Playoffs the last 13 straight seasons.

Should I quote Jim Mora? :csad:

I didn't mean my first comment maliciously. But I know how upset Pats fans were last year and probably thought there wasn't anywhere to go but up.

I don't buy that, you're devolving. :csad:

I take solace in the fact that almost every year the past decade Patriots fans have something to cheer for well into January while other fans have had to bandwagon on to other teams in the playoffs because "their" teams didn't make the cut.

[Erzengel]

My team made the cut. :)

There "evolving".

[Dark Donnie]

...
Michael Strahan-DL-Giants Apr. 25 - 12:43 pm et

Osi Umenyiora says he spoke to Michael Strahan last week and got the feeling that Strahan is going to retire.

"I talked to him after the season and I thought he was going to retire," Osi said. "I talked to him a month ago and I thought he was coming back. Then I talked to him maybe a week ago and I thought he was going to retire. It just changes day to day with Michael." The Giants expect a decision by camp.
Source: New York Daily News

[FaT_tONle]

Aren't you the one who keeps talking about the Jets being a tough team?

Every other year are they are a playoff team no? You add McFadden to that roster and they are probably better than the Bengals, KC, Bills... and the Titans might take a step back... that could vault them back into the 6-8 hole in the conference.

[Dark Donnie]

...
Report: Dolphins offer Jason Taylor to 'Skins

Citing league sources, the Washington Post reports that the Dolphins offered Jason Taylor to the Redskins.

However, the Redskins reportedly turned Miami down. The Dolphins may have asked for the No. 21 overall pick, which Washington is interested in moving, but 'Skins officials don't feel Taylor would fit in with their long-term plans. The Post does not expect the Redskins' stance to change. Apr. 25 - 4:45 pm et
Source: Washington Post

Rosenhaus plea: 'Free Chad' on YouTube

Agent Drew Rosenhaus, via video, is pleading with the Bengals to trade Chad Johnson.

It's sorta genius even if it's not going to work. Our favorite part is that Rosenhaus got the Youtube clip sponsored! While Rosenhaus tries to build media and fan pressure on the Bengals, owner Mike Brown is out to make a point, and he's not going to budge. Boomer Esiason suggested that a sensible compromise would include Johnson offering to pay back his signing bonus in exchange for a ticket out of Cincinnati. Apr. 25 - 9:55 am et
Source: ProFootballTalk.com

[Showtime]

Every other year are they are a playoff team no? You add McFadden to that roster and they are probably better than the Bengals, KC, Bills... and the Titans might take a step back... that could vault them back into the 6-8 hole in the conference.

Being better than KC, Bills, Bengals, or the Titans isn't really something a franchise should strive for and I really don't call being a playoff team every other year the defination of tough.

[FaT_tONle]

I am just saying the division is closing the gap. Pats will probaly go 5-1... losing either to the Bills or Jets. That could be the difference between a first round bye. Being that their toughest games are on the road. I don't see them getting homefield with that schedule.

[Alex The Great]

we should have a pool where some people guess the 1st round picks. who ever gets the most right wins. to bad Fran aint here. he's da pool mastah. would be cool though.

[Dark Donnie]

...
Shockey traded to Saints for multiple picks?


Shockey
Pro Football Weekly is hearing that the Saints and Giants may already have a deal in place that would send Jeremy Shockey to New Orleans.
PFW isn't the greatest source, but ESPN's Chris Mortensen says he's heard similar rumors. Pro Football Weekly says the deal would send "multiple picks" to New York, including the Saints' second-rounder (No. 40 overall). An NFL source tells Profootballtalk.com that Shockey hasn't heard a trade is done. Apr. 25 - 6:10 pm et
Source: Pro Football Weekly

[NewYorkSpider]

Favre hints at return.....again.



Well, we're now guaranteed to have several more months (or years) of the whole "Will Brett unretire?" talk. Appearing on The Late Show with David Letterman, former Green Bay Packers quarterback Brett Favre talked about his status according to ProFootballTalk.com "I think when training camp gets close, something's bound to happen," Favre told Letterman.
Letterman then asked him what that means.
"I don't know," Favre said. "Did I just say that?"

If this does happen, does anyone see him signing with Miami?

Raiders to trade down in the draft.


Oakland Raiders coach Lane Kiffin said the team might try something "not in Raider fashion" during this weekend's NFL draft. Translation: Trade down.
The Raiders' history of moving up for players they covet in the draft is well known around the league. Don't expect that in the first round of this weekend's draft. The Raiders have just one pick Saturday — the fourth overall. They'll have four in Rounds 4 through 7 Sunday. With no selections in rounds two and three, Kiffin could have a lot of free time if the Raiders don't make any deals to either trade down and acquire more picks or trade 2009 picks in order to grab more players now.
Kiffin expects the Raiders to continue talking with teams and would be "surprised" if the team ended the weekend with only five picks.



Panthers have 10 draft picks and have thought about trading up for Matt Ryan or Darren McFadden if they're still available.

[FaT_tONle]

Raiders trading down makes no sense... you got Dorsey and McFadden in that slot... who else do you need? Unless they think they can get Sedrick Ellis which they probably won't if they go to 10. And a second rounder for Shockey is a flat out joke... the guy is a 3rd rounder at best. I understand the window of opportunity is closing on Brees but still. They need all the picks they can get.

[Alex The Great]

who cares? ther Raiders shall forever be in the basement playing Maddenas the other teams drink beer and partay. Raiders are the team that shall never get out of the gutter :csad::o

[Silver Knight]

Looks like Miami dont have new jerseys :(

[Showtime]

Why is that a suprise, I told you they wouldn't.

[Venom'sDad]

The StormTroopers is on the clock!!! :hehe:

[Silver Knight]

Why is that a suprise, I told you they wouldn't.
Actually you said they WOULD be getting new duds..

[Bond]

Is any team getting new uni's?

[Bond]

Yes! The Cowboys had a terrific draft, they got a good running back opposite Marion Barber: Felix Jones, and a really good cornerback that somehow fell in their hands: Mike Jenkins. Great draft. :up:

[FaT_tONle]

What were the trade details on that Cowboy trade? Nm... I found out.

[Showtime]

Actually you said they WOULD be getting new duds..

Actually no, Chucky or somebody did. Go back and check my posts buddy. I presented you with a quote from the Dolphins VP that there was no logo change coming at this time about a month ago.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=14379186&highlight=Uniforms#post14379186

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=14509574&highlight=Uniforms#post14509574

[chuckymack]

I said they might be getting new duds. In no way, shape or form did I guarantee anything.

I was misinformed and apologize for any mental anguish it may have caused.

[Silver Knight]

Do you think there is a chance it may still occur?

[NewYorkSpider]

The Dolphins may get new uniforms in the future, but as it stands right now they're keeping the ones they have now.

[Orson_Randall]

I just have to say! who gives a ****, about new uniforms?

[Silver Knight]

^You bitter?

[Dark Donnie]

I've never seen someone so concerned with Uniforms...

[Kaleb]

Just in


Marvin Harrison Involved In Shooting

Indianapolis Colts all-pro wide receiver Marvin Harrison is under investigation in his home town of Philadelphia in a shooting that took place late Tuesday afternoon, outside a North Philadelphia bar owned by Harrison, a source close to the investigation told Anthony Gargano of WIP Radio in Philadelphia.
The source said the alleged victim came into the bar, Playmakers, around 5 p.m., and engaged in an argument with Harrison, who was at the bar. The victim then left the bar, heading to his car, with Harrison following. Gunfire broke out, the victim was hit in the hand, and a young girl was slightly injured by flying glass from a car that apparently was hit by a bullet.
Police came to scene, but the victim did not identify a shooter. On Wednesday, according to the source, ballistic tests showed that the gun that had fired the shots was a custom-made Belgian weapon, and police determined that Harrison owned such a gun.
Police then went to a Philadelphia car wash owned by Harrison, to question him about the gun. Harrison admitted owning such a weapon, but claimed it never left his suburban Philadelphia home. However, again according to the source, the gun was discovered in a bucket at the car wash, and tests showed that it had fired seven bullets that matched those found at the scene.
The source says police were contacted today by an attorney representing a second alleged victim in the shooting, and police are now waiting for that individual to come forward.
Harrison has yet to be arrested or charged with the crime. ESPN is attempting to reach Harrison, his agent and the Colts for comment.




More news about this later on.

[Dark Donnie]

Damn Marv

[Omega Wizard]

Memphis Slim was the shooter
:ninja: :pal:

[Kaleb]

guy who broke the story said that he will be arrested pretty soon

[Omega Wizard]

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b25/jmbt/diabeetus.jpg

[Dark Donnie]

guy who broke the story said that he will be arrested pretty soon

yeah Gargano, he is a radio guy from here....sounds bad

[Cmill216]

No way. :eek:

[Kaleb]

No way. :eek:
way :o

[Omega Wizard]

I always thought Marvin was good conservative guy...

[Kaleb]

Tough defense for Marvin...

1) Shots fired from a "custom-made Belgian gun," one of which he owns...can't be too many of those floating around North Philly
2) Claimed the gun never left his home
3) Gun found on the scene at his carwash
4) Evidence of shots fired from the gun
5) Bullets match the gun

He can claim he didn't fire the shots, but at the least, he's an accomplice. No judge is going to believe that his friend snuck the gun out of his house without him knowing, fired the shots at the guy Marvin was arguing with, then stashed the gun at Marvin's carwash all without telling him.

He had a shot at a defense until he lied to the police about the gun.

Bye bye Marvin...

[Excel]

Oh man, thats bad.

[Kaleb]

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x294/gq1nyc/harrisonhitman2.jpg

[StorminNorman]

Marvin Harrison?

Really? :eek:

[Excel]

Not a fan of this news :down

[Kaleb]

Few yrs back he choked a kid at the pro bowl,who wanted his autograph.

[Mee]

Huh.


I'm actually more shocked by the choking a kid thing. If your the Colts though, you gotta be thinking "why couldn't he do this BEFORE the Draft? :("

[Kaleb]

He also knocked down a jets ball boy and put his hands around his neck prior to the Jets vs Colts game.

[StorminNorman]

The Colts should trade for Chad Johnson :(

[Cmill216]

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x294/gq1nyc/harrisonhitman2.jpg

Too soon!

[FaT_tONle]

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x294/gq1nyc/harrisonhitman2.jpg

Choking kids for trying to get your autograph in 2005? Marvin Motha' ****in Harrison don't take s*** from nobody...

[Kaleb]

Im sure that if he shot the guy he did it with class.

[StorminNorman]

And quietly - no trash talking.

[Mister J]

Im sure that if he shot the guy he did it with class.

And quietly - no trash talking.
:lmao:

[Mee]

Bullets speak louder than words.

[Alex The Great]

With out a doubt meemeister.

oh and uh....Rabdy Moss is starting a Nascar truck team....:dry::up:

LINK (http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/opinion/05/02/dcaraviello.moss.motorsports.uphill.battle/index.html)


Streeter Lecka/Getty Images
Tim Brown was excited to announce his new Cup team in 2005 only it never came to fruition.
In starting a truck team, Moss facing long yardage

More failures than succeses regarding athletes as owners

By David Caraviello (http://www.nascar.com/news/opinion/david_caraviello), NASCAR.COM
May 3, 2008
12:28 AM EDT

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In the summer of 2005, recently-retired NFL wide receiver Tim Brown stood before a gathering of reporters at Indianapolis Motor Speedway and announced his intentions to go racing. He didn't have a driver, didn't have a crew chief, didn't have a sponsor. Armed with only an agreement with Jack Roush to provide equipment, the former Heisman Trophy winner unveiled Tim Brown Racing, and stated his intention to compete at NASCAR's highest level the next year.
"I want to help bring NASCAR to the urban community," he said. "Right now, it's not too cool to wear a Dale Earnhardt Jr (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/dearnhar01/cup/index.html). jacket in the 'hood. We want to make it cool."

They were noble intentions, especially for a sport struggling to diversify itself, but they never happened. There was no Tim Brown Racing in 2006, 2007, or 2008. In fact, we never heard publicly from Brown on the subject again. Whatever expectations he had of breaking into NASCAR seemed to evaporate into thin air, just like the hopes of so many others who thought -- somewhat naively, in retrospect -- that they could succeed in this arena because they succeeded in another one.
And now comes word that another NFL wide receiver, Randy Moss of the New England Patriots, will try to form a Craftsman Truck Series team that will debut later this season and run full-time in 2009. While Moss seems to be a bit more NASCAR-savvy than Brown was -- he's sponsored a car on a local track in his native West Virginia, and served as an ambassador to the Urban Youth Racing School in Philadelphia -- Moss Motorsports still doesn't have anything but a name. "We don't have all the details in place just yet," he said in a release.
Now, let's make this clear: Anyone who likes NASCAR should hope Moss' organization becomes a reality. The guy may have something of a checkered past, but he seems to dig racing, and he'd add another valuable crossover personality to a sport that had Friday night's Nationwide Series race at Richmond bumped off ESPN2 because of a conflict with the NBA playoffs. And goodness knows his profile couldn't hurt the truck circuit, which these days seem to put on great races in a vacuum.
So your heart says, go Randy go. It would be very cool to see Moss walking through the truck garage, camped out on top of a pit box, sitting in on the drivers' meeting. It would be a big boost to both NASCAR's diversity efforts and the visibility of the Truck Series. But your head wonders if it will ever happen, because we've seen this movie before.
There might not be anything in sports more difficult than pulling together sponsorship for a new NASCAR organization in a depressed economy, especially when there are already established car owners in all three national series funding teams out of their own pockets. Sponsorship is far from a guarantee, and the lack of it has scuttled the dreams of neophytes and experienced racers alike.
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On Tuesday, NFL star Randy Moss announced the formation of Moss Motorsports with its intended participation in the Craftsman Truck Series.

Complete story, click here (http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/headlines/truck/04/29/rmoss.moss.motorsports/index.html)




Just ask Eddie D'Hondt. The veteran team executive went out on his own in 2006, teaming with engineer Bill Riley to form Riley-D'Hondt Motorsports. Like Brown, there was a press conference at Indianapolis full of big plans, among them two Busch cars and a part-time Cup schedule the next year. The stark reality was a handful of Busch races and one Cup start, at Infineon Raceway. The sponsorship never came together, and the partnership soon afterward dissolved.
Even when sponsorship isn't an issue, juggling the myriad of factors that make a NASCAR team go can sometimes be too much. Hip-hop artist Nelly jumped into the sport with much fanfare in 2003, buying into a Billy Ballew-owned truck that would bear the logo of Nelly's clothing line, Vokal. After a few starts with drivers Andy Houston (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/ahouston00/truck/index.html) and Patrick Lawler (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/plawler00/truck/index.html), Vokal -- and Nelly -- were never heard from again. Remember the big partnership between Robert Yates Racing and the Newman/Haas/Lanigan open-wheel organization, announced at Indy last year? Even Paul Newman was on stage for that one. But when Robert Yates retired, the handshake agreement fell apart.
When it comes to NASCAR, the devil is very much in the details. Year after year, prospective car owners announce big plans that never come to fruition. You'd think people would learn from that, and make sure their sponsor and manufacturer -- at the very least -- were nailed down before announcing their plans to the public. Because few things are more embarrassing than a big press conference that amounts to nothing.
In the press release announcing the formation of his race team, Moss points to the long line of current and former NFL players that have preceded him into the sport. And he's right. But what he fails to mention is that Dan Marino's involvement lasted one year. Jim Kelly's partnership with Frank Cicci lasted just two lean seasons. Troy Aikman and Roger Staubach sold majority interest in Hall of Fame Racing to a pair of Arizona Diamondbacks executives after just more than a year at the helm. Terry Bradshaw's cars started 85 races in three Nationwide seasons before he bowed out. Brown's organization never progressed beyond a press conference.
It's a tough deal, and car owners who enter this sport with anything less than full commitment are often quickly overmatched, if they even get off the ground. As his football career would suggest, Randy Moss is a determined athlete. That, and his preexisting interest in NASCAR, gives him a chance at bucking the trend. If he does, it might be a bigger achievement than his football team going 16-0.
The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer

[Omega Wizard]

I want 85 in Indy.
:up:

[BlackLantern]

I read somewhere that this is how Marvin Harrison helps train Bob Sanders in the off-season. Marvin shoots bullets and Bob Sanders chases after and catches them....

[Kaleb]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix081prSiNc&eurl=http://www.yoursportssite.com/therammers-ramit


In honour of Fran :csad:

[KALEL114]

Benson to Forte- I'll make it alot easier for you to take my spot.

AUSTIN, Texas -- Chicago Bears running back Cedric Benson failed a sobriety test while operating a 30-foot boat, then resisted arrest before being hit with pepper spray and dragged ashore by officers.

Benson faces charges of boating while intoxicated and resisting arrest after the incident Saturday night on Lake Travis, Travis County Sheriff's Department spokesman Roger Wade said.

Both charges are misdemeanors.

Benson was released from jail early Sunday on a $14,500 bond. A call to Benson's agent was not immediately returned.

Benson was operating the boat with 15 passengers aboard when he was stopped by a Lower Colorado River Authority officer for a random safety inspection. He failed a field sobriety test on the officer's boat and was uncooperative when the officer tried to take him ashore, the authority said.

"When Benson did not pass the test, he presented himself as a threat to the officer and argued about whether or not he would be taken to land to have a follow-up field sobriety test performed on land and refused to put on a life jacket," the authority said in a statement.

The officer had to use pepper spray to subdue Benson. He then refused to leave the officer's boat and authorities had to drag him to a car to be taken to the Travis County jail, the authority said.

Benson has had legal problems before.

He was sentenced to eight days in jail in 2003 for a misdemeanor trespassing charge after forcing his way into an apartment to look for a reported stolen TV. In 2002, misdemeanor drug and alcohol charges against him were dropped.

Benson rushed for more than 5,500 yards and 64 touchdowns at the University of Texas, going for 1,000 yards in four straight seasons.

The 25-year-old has done little since the Bears took him with the fourth pick of the 2005 draft.

As a rookie he couldn't beat out Thomas Jones and rushed for 272 yards in nine games. He was more effective the next season while sharing time with Jones, going for six touchdowns and 647 yards.

Last year, Benson took over as the featured back after Jones was traded. He rushed for 674 yards, four touchdowns and 3.4 yards a carry before going on injured reserve in November.

In three years with the Bears, Benson has rushed for 1,593 yards and 10 touchdowns, averaging 3.8 yards a carry. He's also missed 13 games.

[Alex The Great]

I read somewhere that this is how Marvin Harrison helps train Bob Sanders in the off-season. Marvin shoots bullets and Bob Sanders chases after and catches them....
A Bob Sanders is god joke and Marvin Harrison shooting joke in one? well played my good sir.

[tupelohoney]

Thursday night...they just have to get those games off of NFL network and broadcast them on the local networks.

Yeah, because that was a hot-mess. All of DC was rasin' hell last year when the Skins played that Thursday night game...think they were finally simulcasting by that point though...

I checked into the Tirico show again last week. He's got Van Pelt on as a regular side-kick now, ehh??!

[Silver Knight]

Did anyone see the fight with Vernon Davis during traiing camp?

Funny stuff indeed.

[SurfDUI]

New news to me, and thank gawd.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/17559174.html

[Alex The Great]

New news to me, and thank gawd.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/17559174.html
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/Mjusin/old_news.jpg

[Silver Knight]

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/Mjusin/old_news.jpg
:hehe:

[SurfDUI]

May Matt Walsh have Bellicheat on tape signing his contract w/ Satan.
At this point it better be.

[Alex The Great]

May Matt Walsh have Bellicheat on tape signing his contract w/ Satan.
At this point it better be.
*re reads*

wait what? :huh:

[Kaleb]

Shaun Alexander is visiting the Saints this weekend.

[Cmill216]

The Saints need another running back? :confused:

[NewYorkSpider]

I think Denver should sign him. Who knows what Travis Henry will do this season.

[chuckymack]

I say the Bengals nab him. They've been the frontrunners this whole time.

[Silver Knight]

I think he will end up in Dallas.

[Kaleb]

The Saints need another running back? :confused:

well concidering Mcallister's history of knee injuries, it might not be such a bad idea.

[Dark Donnie]

I think Denver should sign him. Who knows what Travis Henry will do this season.

Im guessing have another illegitimate kid:nono:

[Immortalfire]

Im guessing have another illegitimate kid:nono:

More like, be an illegitimate parent.

[Dark Donnie]

Yeah....he's taken out most of the southern states, hopefully he doesn't take his show north...

[Dark Donnie]

...
Pierce: Strahan will retire on top

Giants LB Antonio Pierce said Tuesday that he expects Michael Strahan to retire.

Strahan said that winning the Super Bowl gives Strahan a perfect opportunity to leave the game on top. He does think that there's one way the Giants can get Strahan to return: "Money talks. Maybe a $2 million signing bonus or something," Pierce said. May. 6 - 3:19 pm et
Source: New York Post

[Erzengel]

I don't think you can top a Superbowl like the last one. Even if the Giants repeated, I doubt the game would be as memorable as the previous one.

[cvinces]

memorable indeed.

[Cmill216]

Speaking of which, the hook to that Busta/Linkin Park track "We Made It" had to be written right after the Super Bowl. :funny:

Together we made it
We made it even though we had our backs up against the wall
Forever we waited
And they told us we were never going to get it
But we took it on the road
On the road
On the road.....

[BlackLantern]

I have an odd feeling that Strahan will come back, even though I feel he should retire

[Alex The Great]

Shaun Alexander is visiting the Saints this weekend.
:down:huh::up:


lame movie IMO. they already have Reggie Bush and wuts his face....eh......oh well.

[Bond]

The new Wes Welker:

http://www.dallascowboys.com/images/amendola_800.jpg

[Silver Knight]

Anyone know what number D-Mac will have?

[Excel]

20.

[Silver Knight]

^Cheers, any pics?

[cvinces]

I have an odd feeling that Strahan will come back, even though I feel he should retire

i agree, best to leave on a good note.

[Erzengel]

The only reason he should play is if he "truly" loves the game and would take a paycut (Doubt it.) if he was that passionate about playing the sport.

[Immortalfire]

:down:huh::up:


lame movie IMO. they already have Reggie Bush and wuts his face....eh......oh well.

:whatever: :huh:

[Alex The Great]

i fail :csad:

[Immortalfire]

i fail :csad:

Take this test http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=6798

:hehe:

[Cmill216]

The end of Spygate?


Contrary to a February 2 report in the Boston Herald, former Patriots videotape assistant Matt Walsh does not have film of the Rams' Super Bowl XXXVI walkthrough.

Walsh gave the NFL eight videos of opponents' coaches from 2000-2002. The tapes show the Patriots videotaping opposing signals in five regular season games and the the 2002 AFC Championship. Walsh's attorney says his client never claimed to have a tape of the Rams' walkthrough and was not the "unnamed source" in the Herald's story. The NFL knew about all this, and says this is consistent with what the Patriots told them. Any further punishment isn't happening.

[Silver Knight]

^I am soo over the whole Spygate bs..

[The Game]

The end of Spygate?

I hope it is, the thing is so boring now, I hope Kraft sues the hell out Boston Herald

[BlackLantern]

Kraft won't...there isn't anything to gain by doing that...I think he just wants everyone to move on suing the citys' biggest newspaper won't help with that

[cyborg ninja 14]

I read somewhere that this is how Marvin Harrison helps train Bob Sanders in the off-season. Marvin shoots bullets and Bob Sanders chases after and catches them....

That should clear his story up.

[Alex The Great]

Alright!

I'm going to the New England Paitriots @ New York Jets Week 2!!!

We tried to get a home game but prices were huuuuuuuuuuuuge.


:hyper::up:

[Mee]

The new Wes Welker:


That'd be nice.

[Alex The Great]

to bad it'll never happen :hyper::up: