2008 NFL Thread

[Excel]

To be honest it wouldnt surprise me at all if they go undefeated. The team has very few weakness and you can bet theyll be fixed. Some will say loss of Stallworth is a downgrade but anybodys whose seen Chad Jackson in action knows its not.

We'll get younger at linebacker with Oscar Lua healthy, free agents and the draft. We'll get another corner to help asante, and meriweather starting to play like a probowler.

Not only that, theres only a handful of teams capible of beating the Patriots anyway. Had Josh McDaniels not lost sight of the gameplan we woulda won it last night too.

Maroney had bad 1st half in all the playoff games, he just turns it on the 2nd gets into groves. But alas he needs to be on the field to do that.

We'll be fine. But now we have a reason to really kick da **** outta people other than just wanting to do it.

[Fran]

I doubt Moss will come back unless he (shockingly) doesn't want money to be part of the picture.

[Alex The Great]

i hate my school.

There all saying ''PATRIOTS SUCK!!!'' and they lost ONE GAME!!!

even if it was a superbowl loss going 18-1 is a big acompleshment

[Showtime]

To be honest it wouldnt surprise me at all if they go undefeated. The team has very few weakness and you can bet theyll be fixed. Some will say loss of Stallworth is a downgrade but anybodys whose seen Chad Jackson in action knows its not.

We'll get younger at linebacker with Oscar Kua healthy, free agents and the draft. We'll get another corner to help asante, and meriweather starting to play like a probowler.

We'll be fine. But now we have a reason to really kick da **** outta people other than just wanting to do it.

Chad Jackson was active for two games the entire year without a catch, what makes you think he is even going to contribute? Jackson has done nothing to impress me, back in 2006, when he had about a dozen catches.

There is no way in hell the Patriots go undefeated again during the regular season. They had one chance to make history.

[Alex The Great]

yeah well in those games brady was throwing to moss and welker all the time. not chad. when daunte is gone he'll explode (i hope)

[Fran]

i hate my school.

There all saying ''PATRIOTS SUCK!!!'' and they lost ONE GAME!!!

even if it was a superbowl loss going 18-1 is a big acompleshment

Well, a lot of people hate the Patriots.

I hate them incredibly, and after last night's game, it was amazing to watch people's reactions.

It's a big "F*** YOU" to the NFL, who I'm pretty sure wanted a 19-0 season, and another big "F U" to Goodell, who destroyed tapings, etc. I loved last night's game.

Karma exists.

[Excel]

Chad Jackson was active for two games the entire year without a catch, what makes you think he is even going to contribute? Jackson has done nothing to impress me, back in 2006, when he had about a dozen catches.

There is no way in hell the Patriots go undefeated again during the regular season. They had one chance to make history.

I dont really care about what hes done, I just care about what hes capible. Boston Globe had an article on him bout a month ago where there nothing but praise from Blelichik and his appearent mentor, Randy Moss.

All I know hes a 6'1 muscled dude who runs a 4.3 and had the best hands of his class. His catches in 2006 were no joke watch em on NFL.com; their usually some acrobatic leap or some **** and if hes on one end of the field and Wlker and Moss on the other, CJac aint gonna get **** attention paid to him.

I doubt Moss will come back unless he (shockingly) doesn't want money to be part of the picture.

Moss yesterday after the game:

"I wont break mr. krafts bank, for anybody else I will. Mr. Kraft, Mr. Pioli- sign me!"

Worst case scenario is hes franchised. Hell be back.

[Fran]

He will not break his own record. That's for sure.

[Jerry!]

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[Cmill216]

Moss will be back.

Stallworth won't.

[Alex The Great]

Kraft must be on something if he don't keep Moss

[Kelly]

In the end......it was all about the karma.....

Well, a lot of people hate the Patriots.

I hate them incredibly, and after last night's game, it was amazing to watch people's reactions.

It's a big "F*** YOU" to the NFL, who I'm pretty sure wanted a 19-0 season, and another big "F U" to Goodell, who destroyed tapings, etc. I loved last night's game.

Karma exists.


I agree......

[Excel]

He will not break his own record. That's for sure.

No doubt. Maroney will get close to 15 I think. Brady will hit 38-42.

[Fran]

Rams = Super Bowl XLIII champions.

[Erzengel]

Some NY Daily News columnist was already saying Jaguars vs. Cowboys in the Superbowl next year.

[Fran]

I expect the Rams to have a resurgence of some sort... at least 8-8, maybe a playoff appearance.

[Mee]

Rams = Super Bowl XLIII champions.
:lmao:

[Alex The Great]

:lmao:
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[Arkady Rossovich]

i hate my school.

There all saying ''PATRIOTS SUCK!!!'' and they lost ONE GAME!!!

even if it was a superbowl loss going 18-1 is a big acompleshment

Putting asside the Giant victory..your right. That does not happen often and there is no denying the fact that New England did something right to have a record like that. But..because their single loss had to be the Super Bowl..someone is getting fired.

[Fran]

:lmao:

I remember saying Cowboys = Super Bowl XLII champions, so yeah.

Join me. :o

[Alex The Great]

Putting asside the Giant victory..your right. That does not happen often and there is no denying the fact that New England did something right to have a record like that. But..because their single loss had to be the Super Bowl..someone is getting fired.
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[Mee]

I remember saying Cowboys = Super Bowl XLII champions, so yeah.

Join me. :o
We are the champions.


We beat the Giants who won the Super Bowl, therefor...co-champs! WOOOO! :fireworks:

[BlackLantern]

nice try Mee, but NO......The Patriots are a damn good team but they arent the best team....

[Immortalfire]

Dear Falcons,

Please be good this year, and please let Shockley play.

'fire

[Alex The Great]

heh. i predict they'll go.....6-10 season......

[Immortalfire]

:cmad: :up: DA FALCONS! :cmad: :up:

[Alex The Great]

DON'T COPY ME!!!!:cmad:

:cmad::up: DA PATS! :cmad::up:


:cwink:

[BlackLantern]

Atlanta got the high hard one this year......first their franchise QB gets jailed, then the coach that left college to coach said QB quits before the season ends.....I hope they make the right changes and do better this coming season

[Alex The Great]

things aint going good for them. I hope Cmill makes more hilarios Bob sanders stories....they were awseme.

[Dark Donnie]

Moss will be back.

Stallworth won't.

Comes down to Asanta Samuel or Moss, one will go.

[BlackLantern]

i see Moss sticking around.....he'll take the "winning team" discount

[M.O.Steel]

nice try Mee, but NO......The Patriots are a damn good team but they arent the best team....

I don't agree. They are still the best team, but they lost a fair game yesterday. I would still take the patriots over the giants if they played again next week, as i'm sure most people would. It obviously won't be a 12-14 point spread, but i still think they are the better team. Having said that, Giants did the very thing every other team has tried to do, and they were successful when it counted. Other than 72 dolphins, everyone loses a game. It is extremely unfortunate that it had to be at the SB's expense. But they are much better than the 72 dolphins, and are still better than the Giants.

These are the opinions of a redskins' fan who has no "investment" in either team.

[BlackLantern]

Being the best team in the NFL means you get to hold the Vince Lombardi trophy at the end of the Super Bowl......and that wasnt the Patriots.....

[Excel]

Pats beat Giants 9 outta 10 times, last night was the 1. It sucks but it dont change nothing.

Hell, Dallas, Green Bay, Indy...they are all better than NYG.

[M.O.Steel]

Whats your opinion?

Can the patriots redeem themselves if they do pull off a superbowl next season?

I don't think they can even if they are the superbowl champs next year with 18-1 or 17-2. Its unfortunate that anything short of a winning a superbowl is considered a failure, it seems like they have set the bar even higher to do it with a 19-0 season to fully redeem last night. Man, talk about setting the bar high.

What do you all think?

[Cmill216]

As much as I'd like to agree with some of you, the Patriots aren't the World Champs right now. The Giants are.

[BlackLantern]

Pats beat Giants 9 outta 10 times, last night was the 1. It sucks but it dont change nothing.

Hell, Dallas, Green Bay, Indy...they are all better than NYG.

Bitter, Party of one your table is ready...Bitter, Party of one....

as a football fan, the Pats have all the tools to get back to the Super Bowl next year.....I see Brady will not be attending the Pro Bowl....good for Derek Anderson, I see cleveland doing good things next season

[M.O.Steel]

Being the best team in the NFL means you get to hold the Vince Lombardi trophy at the end of the Super Bowl......and that wasnt the Patriots.....

Again, i respectfully don't agree. I'm not taking anything away from the giant's victory last night, but they aren't the better team.

[Gmanofsteel]

Way to go Giants :up: Their defense turned Brady into a tackle dummy :D

[StorminNorman]

Pats beat Giants 9 outta 10 times, last night was the 1. It sucks but it dont change nothing.

Hell, Dallas, Green Bay, Indy...they are all better than NYG.

My God - get over yourself.

[Alex The Great]

So how much cap room does Indy have? 50 grand :o

[Gmanofsteel]

Pats beat Giants 9 outta 10 times, last night was the 1. It sucks but it dont change nothing.

Hell, Dallas, Green Bay, Indy...they are all better than NYG.

All that matters is the SB, the Patiots had an 18-0 record and failed to win. The only game that matters and the only game people will even remember is the superbowl. The Patriots in the end, were over rated. 18-0 is impressive, but take into account all those close/lucky wins, it doesn't mean anything unless they soundly won every single game.

[BlackLantern]

Again, i respectfully don't agree. I'm not taking anything away from the giant's victory last night, but they aren't the better team.

WHAT THE ****!!!! All season it was all about how the Giants weren't good enough, how Eli couldn't handle the pressure, How Strahan missed training camp and had lost a step....They go to 2 of the most hostile environments in the NFC...Dallas and Lambeau Field...beat 2 outstanding QB's....go to the Super Bowl and derail history....and still NO ****ING CREDIT...its all about how the Patriots messed up, not about how Eli stepped up and the Giants D banged Brady like a kettle drum ALL NIGHT LONG.....it makes the whole ride that much sweeter

[Alex The Great]

WHAT THE ****!!!! All season it was all about how the Giants weren't good enough, how Eli couldn't handle the pressure, How Strahan missed training camp and had lost a step....They go to 2 of the most hostile environments in the NFC...Dallas and Lambeau Field...beat 2 outstanding QB's....go to the Super Bowl and derail history....and still NO ****ING CREDIT...its all about how the Patriots messed up, not about how Eli stepped up and the Giants D banged Brady like a kettle drum ALL NIGHT LONG.....it makes the whole ride that much sweeter
agreed :up:

[StorminNorman]

Last Night - the Giants were the better team. Period.

Thats all that matters here people.

[Alex The Great]

:indy:

[Erzengel]

We are the champions.


We beat the Giants who won the Super Bowl, therefor...co-champs! WOOOO! :fireworks:
The Giants couldn't have done it without your support all year, Mee (E Manning's #1). :o

[Excel]

Some of yall can shut up ight? Maybe it makes you happy the Pats lost buts its hella dissappointing to some of us; show some damn respect. WE WERE 18-0 MAN, WE WENT 18-0! And couldnt win it the last one. Yall can say "get over yourself" and that **** but I cant remember the last time I felt so gosh damned dissappointed. Didnt see me coming on here and talking **** to the fans of the teams the pats beat this season, so shut it. Its easy to tell us to move n **** but it aint that easy for some fans to just move onto next seaosn after a season like this ends so badly. Im not crying some people, but show some damn respect.

They beat us-fact.
They also held our lineman on that eli escape-tyree catch and no flag was thrown-fact
I feel were didnt show up and didnt play our best game-fact

It sucks, its incredibly dissappointing and none of yall know how us fans feel cause none of yall ever went 18-0 n blew it in the super bowl with :35 seconds to go. This aint right, this aint how it was supposed to end, so Ill say sorry for all Pats fans in advance if we have trouble moving on from this.

[Excel]

All that matters is the SB, the Patiots had an 18-0 record and failed to win. The only game that matters and the only game people will even remember is the superbowl. The Patriots in the end, were over rated. 18-0 is impressive, but take into account all those close/lucky wins, it doesn't mean anything unless they soundly won every single game.

I said all season undefeated, while awesome, nasty,sick, great,ect. is really only a testement to the teams you play. Winning the super bowl is a testement to how good you are. That said; I feel we didnt play our best game and so do the vast majory of people and you. Sucks cause its a one shot deal, but its true.

[Kelly]

Whats your opinion?

Can the patriots redeem themselves if they do pull off a superbowl next season?

I don't think they can even if they are the superbowl champs next year with 18-1 or 17-2. Its unfortunate that anything short of a winning a superbowl is considered a failure, it seems like they have set the bar even higher to do it with a 19-0 season to fully redeem last night. Man, talk about setting the bar high.

What do you all think?


Well.......maybe if they don't cheat next year, their karma will be better in the end......:o

[Jerry!]

I'm starting the Rex Grossman "One more chance, because he's the best you've got" campaign.

[Erzengel]

Some of yall can shut up ight? Maybe it makes you happy the Pats lost buts its hella dissappointing to some of us; show some damn respect. WE WERE 18-0 MAN, WE WENT 18-0! And couldnt win it the last one. Yall can say "get over yourself" and that **** but I cant remember the last time I felt so gosh damned dissappointed. Didnt see me coming on here and talking **** to the fans of the teams the pats beat this season, so shut it. Its easy to tell us to move n **** but it aint that easy for some fans to just move onto next seaosn after a season like this ends so badly. Im not crying some people, but show some damn respect.

They beat us-fact.
They also held our lineman on that eli escape-tyree catch and no flag was thrown-fact
I feel were didnt show up and didnt play our best game-fact

It sucks, its incredibly dissappointing and none of yall know how us fans feel cause none of yall ever went 18-0 n blew it in the super bowl with :35 seconds to go. This aint right, this aint how it was supposed to end, so Ill say sorry for all Pats fans in advance if we have trouble moving on from this.
Get.over.it.

If the roles were reversed, you'd be rubbing it in the faces of every single NFL fan. Colts, Giants, Packers, Steelers, etc.

Don't like being razzed, don't be into sports.

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[Excel]

Well.......maybe if they don't cheat next year, their karma will be better in the end......:o

Karma my ass, every team does it. Cowher and Johnson both admitted on tv.

[BlackLantern]

Some of yall can shut up ight? Maybe it makes you happy the Pats lost buts its hella dissappointing to some of us; show some damn respect. WE WERE 18-0 MAN, WE WENT 18-0! And couldnt win it the last one. Yall can say "get over yourself" and that **** but I cant remember the last time I felt so gosh damned dissappointed. Didnt see me coming on here and talking **** to the fans of the teams the pats beat this season, so shut it. Its easy to tell us to move n **** but it aint that easy for some fans to just move onto next seaosn after a season like this ends so badly. Im not crying some people, but show some damn respect.

They beat us-fact.
They also held our lineman on that eli escape-tyree catch and no flag was thrown-fact
I feel were didnt show up and didnt play our best game-fact

It sucks, its incredibly dissappointing and none of yall know how us fans feel cause none of yall ever went 18-0 n blew it in the super bowl with :35 seconds to go. This aint right, this aint how it was supposed to end, so Ill say sorry for all Pats fans in advance if we have trouble moving on from this.

in the words of one of our great sages, Eric Cartman...."Your tears...mmmm...your tears are so sweet"

seriously, even if it wasnt a super bowl game it was a fantastic football game...we have fans of various teams in our office and we all agreeed it was one of the best SB's and one of the best football games in a while...me personally, prolly one of the best since Rams/Titans

[Kelly]

Some of yall can shut up ight? Maybe it makes you happy the Pats lost buts its hella dissappointing to some of us; show some damn respect. WE WERE 18-0 MAN, WE WENT 18-0! And couldnt win it the last one. Yall can say "get over yourself" and that **** but I cant remember the last time I felt so gosh damned dissappointed. Didnt see me coming on here and talking **** to the fans of the teams the pats beat this season, so shut it. Its easy to tell us to move n **** but it aint that easy for some fans to just move onto next seaosn after a season like this ends so badly. Im not crying some people, but show some damn respect.

They beat us-fact.
They also held our lineman on that eli escape-tyree catch and no flag was thrown-fact
I feel were didnt show up and didnt play our best game-fact

It sucks, its incredibly dissappointing and none of yall know how us fans feel cause none of yall ever went 18-0 n blew it in the super bowl with :35 seconds to go. This aint right, this aint how it was supposed to end, so Ill say sorry for all Pats fans in advance if we have trouble moving on from this.

Hey, some are just showing their feelings of ecstasy at the loss of the Pats........no biggie........as a Cowboy fan, I get this **** all the time........goes with the territory of winning alot.........:yay: Get use to it, it isn't going to get any better.

[Excel]

Get.over.it.

If the roles were reversed, you'd be rubbing it in the faces of every single NFL fan. Colts, Giants, Packers, Steelers, etc.

Don't like being razzed, don't be into sports.

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Easy for yall to say that, but nobody will ever know the dissappointment the Pats fans feel after watching their seasons go from beyond best case scenario to joke/nightmare in a split second.

Patriot Nation aint getting this loss for a while, deal with it.

[Alex The Great]

how bout we shut up and talk about teams oppurtunities and free agents and the draft????





and smexy lesbians :woot: jk

[Kelly]

Karma my ass, every team does it. Cowher and Johnson both admitted on tv.


Theeeeen, don't get caught next time.......:waa:

[Mister J]

People need to get off this 'the Patriots were the better team' nonsense. The better team is the one that plays like it when it matters most. The accolades, records and media jocking don't mean squat if you can't bring it on gameday. The best team in the league, bar none, is the New York Football Giants. End of story.

Besides, look at how much joy New England losing has brought...
t0T0mWR9fys

[BlackLantern]

one of my good buddies at work is a Dallas fan and it stung a little bit....to have the division rival knock his team out of the postseason and go on to win the Super Bowl, but he shook my hand and said Congrats

[StorminNorman]

Some of yall can shut up ight? Maybe it makes you happy the Pats lost buts its hella dissappointing to some of us; show some damn respect. WE WERE 18-0 MAN, WE WENT 18-0! And couldnt win it the last one. Yall can say "get over yourself" and that **** but I cant remember the last time I felt so gosh damned dissappointed. Didnt see me coming on here and talking **** to the fans of the teams the pats beat this season, so shut it. Its easy to tell us to move n **** but it aint that easy for some fans to just move onto next seaosn after a season like this ends so badly. Im not crying some people, but show some damn respect.

They beat us-fact.
They also held our lineman on that eli escape-tyree catch and no flag was thrown-fact
I feel were didnt show up and didnt play our best game-fact

It sucks, its incredibly dissappointing and none of yall know how us fans feel cause none of yall ever went 18-0 n blew it in the super bowl with :35 seconds to go. This aint right, this aint how it was supposed to end, so Ill say sorry for all Pats fans in advance if we have trouble moving on from this.

Oh please. ****ing get over yourself.

Your team lost. Don't try to pull half ass things like "they held us on the eli escape play" - if you play football half as much as you claim to, you would know that holding happens on every single play. Get over it man.

No one would of given you **** if you didn't try to claim "we were the better team, blah blah blah ****".

Please man - grow some thicker skin.

[Kelly]

Easy for yall to say that, but nobody will ever know the dissappointment the Pats fans feel after watching their seasons go from beyond best case scenario to joke/nightmare in a split second.

Patriot Nation aint getting this loss for a while, deal with it.



Excel........lmao................................. .talk to me about the deep disappointment of the actual players.....and I'll show some sympathy. Disappointment of fans?.....please unless you lost your house on the game..............have a couple of beers and look forward to next year.

[Memphis Slim]

And the universe has realigned itself once again!! the Dark side of the force has been turned back for a third time in as many years! Twice, by the Jedi brothers Manning. The sacred trophy is safe once more.

But seriously, was it not poetic justice? Plaxico made the prediction and he made the winning catch ....RIGHT OVER THE PATRIOT LOGO!
http://www2.indystar.com/autofocus/photos/standard/2008/02/37971.jpg:woot:

There was not a team in the NFL that was not pulling for the Giants! I felt like my Colts won!

[Erzengel]

People need to get off this 'the Patriots were the better team' nonsense. The better team is the one that plays like it when it matters most. The accolades, records and media jocking don't mean squat if you can't bring it on gameday. The best team in the league, bar none, is the New York Football Giants. End of story.

Besides, look at how much joy New England losing has brought...
t0T0mWR9fys

Hysterical. :)

[StorminNorman]

Also - Excel - you want people to show YOUR team Respect? Why should we? Your coach is an ******* that doesn't show anyone else the respect you feel we should show his team.

[Kelly]

one of my good buddies at work is a Dallas fan and it stung a little bit....to have the division rival knock his team out of the postseason and go on to win the Super Bowl, but he shook my hand and said Congrats


Hell yeah.....of course you go......."ouch" but only because we beat the team that beat the team. Everybody goes through it.........its called FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTBALL.......:cwink:

[Erzengel]

The Buccaneers, the Cowboys, the Packers and finally the Patriots.

Yeah, the Giants were just lucky to be in the SB. :whatever:

[M.O.Steel]

WHAT THE ****!!!! All season it was all about how the Giants weren't good enough, how Eli couldn't handle the pressure, How Strahan missed training camp and had lost a step....They go to 2 of the most hostile environments in the NFC...Dallas and Lambeau Field...beat 2 outstanding QB's....go to the Super Bowl and derail history....and still NO ****ING CREDIT...its all about how the Patriots messed up, not about how Eli stepped up and the Giants D banged Brady like a kettle drum ALL NIGHT LONG.....it makes the whole ride that much sweeter

Relax. If you read my quote earlier, i said Giants beat Patriots fair and square. They beat them, and they are the champs. No one is taking that away from them. But i still think that the patriots are the better team. Using your arguements, pats beat all those people also, and jacksonville, steelers, colts, chargers, and the giants, cowboys. Patroits didn't mess up. They lost a football game.

Here's a hypothetical: if the ravens would have won against the pats during their close game, would you consider them the better team? I wouldn't think so. I'm a redskins FAn to the bone, but if they won last night against the patriots, I'd be jumping up and down, but patriots would still be the better team.

[Alex The Great]

And the universe has realigned itself once again!! the Dark side of the force has been turned back for a third time in as many years! Twice, by the Jedi brothers Manning. The sacred trophy is safe once more.

But seriously, was it not poetic justice? Plaxico made the prediction and he made the winning catch ....RIGHT OVER THE PATRIOT LOGO!
http://www2.indystar.com/autofocus/photos/standard/2008/02/37971.jpg:woot:

There was not a team in the NFL that was not pulling for the Giants! I felt like my Colts won!
does this mean no more babbling and posting Payton Manning holding up the Lombardi trophy in 06??

[BlackLantern]

I watched the interview with Tiki and Eli this morning.....you wouldnt see it on his face but Tiki has to be dying inside, just a little bit

[Excel]

Oh please. ****ing get over yourself.

Your team lost. Don't try to pull half ass things like "they held us on the eli escape play" - if you play football half as much as you claim to, you would know that holding happens on every single play. Get over it man.

No one would of given you **** if you didn't try to claim "we were the better team, blah blah blah ****".

Please man - grow some thicker skin.

I never said we werent holding them either. Im not like some people wiping tears from my eyes, and Kel obv I know the dissappointment of the players is probably unbearable-seau, moss, all them who wanted to go out on top.

I got thick skin aint get no thicker, this **** just hard to accept. Im not saying Giants suck cause they dont, not saying they didnt win cause they did...it just sucks for Pats fan cause we had the chance-chances-to win and didnt. Hats off the Giants and their fans and congrats, but all yall have no business telling us to grow up n move on n forget about it already n all that **** just cause yall hated them.

[Erzengel]

F' Barber and Shockey too.

[Mister J]

I watched the interview with Tiki and Eli this morning.....you wouldnt see it on his face but Tiki has to be dying inside, just a little bit
Eli should have taken at swing at him.

[Kelly]

Hey, those are the choices they make........thats how it is.


In the end, the fans are just fans............................NO ONE........knows the disappointment of the Pats players today.......NO ONE.......can even come close to knowing or understanding.

[Erzengel]

I never said we werent holding them either. Im not like some people wiping tears from my eyes, and Kel obv I know the dissappointment of the players is probably unbearable-seau, moss, all them who wanted to go out on top.

I got thick skin aint get no thicker, this **** just hard to accept. Im not saying Giants suck cause they dont, not saying they didnt win cause they did...it just sucks for Pats fan cause we had the chance-chances-to win and didnt. Hats off the Giants and their fans and congrats, but all yall have no business telling us to grow up n move on n forget about it already n all that **** just cause yall hated them.
Quicky hypothetical. Would you have been a poor winner if they did win?

[StorminNorman]

Shockey should be cut.

What type of **** was that last night? Boozing it up in some VIP suite instead of being with HIS team?

Cut that *******.

[M.O.Steel]

i'm planning on getting that t-shirt on the bottom. HAHA. how sad.

[BlackLantern]

I have no hate for the Patriots at all....the only team in the NFL my hate is reserved for is the Dallas Cowboys....Tom Brady and his squad have 3 rings and are a fantastic team, but the Giants stepped up....Bradys face the whole night was like "what is this me getting hit sh** going on? I dont like this at all"

[Alex The Great]

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It's true :cmad::up:

[BlackLantern]

Eli should have taken at swing at him.

No...he can just floss that ring at him FOREVER....

[Badger]

I never said we werent holding them either. Im not like some people wiping tears from my eyes, and Kel obv I know the dissappointment of the players is probably unbearable-seau, moss, all them who wanted to go out on top.

I got thick skin aint get no thicker, this **** just hard to accept. Im not saying Giants suck cause they dont, not saying they didnt win cause they did...it just sucks for Pats fan cause we had the chance-chances-to win and didnt. Hats off the Giants and their fans and congrats, but all yall have no business telling us to grow up n move on n forget about it already n all that **** just cause yall hated them.

:waa:

Seriously Dude, that's poor.

Everbody Hates Them... :waa:

They had their chances... :waa:

BTW, if you want to be treated like a grown man stop with the 'n' ****.

[Erzengel]

Shockey should be cut.

What type of **** was that last night? Boozing it up in some VIP suite instead of being with HIS team?

Cut that *******.

Boss looked great in his position.


Greg Gadson, honorary Captain, a US soilder who had his legs amputated and was inspirational to the Giants on their sidelines even and was on there during the Packers game and f'ing Shockey had to be in the VIP suite?

[BlackLantern]

and not for nothing Tom Brady still has Gisele, I dont know if thats as good as a Super Bowl ring but it should count for something

[Memphis Slim]

I think the chickens came home to roost in that last 2-minute drive by the Giants. Eli and crew are not an offensive powerhouse by any stretch. But the Pat D really looked like they ran out of gas. 18 games straight....never resting your defensive starters....those "old" starters like "Senior Seau", Brusci.... even when they had 52-point leads. Never letting up.....trying to prove a point. Humiliating their opponents when they could....I think that Pats D just got tired. It's not like the Giants are dazzling by any means.

Just a great day for the universe! :woot:

And Spy-Gate is still "NOT OVER". :waa:

[Kelly]

I never said we werent holding them either. Im not like some people wiping tears from my eyes, and Kel obv I know the dissappointment of the players is probably unbearable-seau, moss, all them who wanted to go out on top.

I got thick skin aint get no thicker, this **** just hard to accept. Im not saying Giants suck cause they dont, not saying they didnt win cause they did...it just sucks for Pats fan cause we had the chance-chances-to win and didnt. Hats off the Giants and their fans and congrats, but all yall have no business telling us to grow up n move on n forget about it already n all that **** just cause yall hated them.

Well, as for me.......has nothing to do with "hating" a team........hate is an emotion I hold for people I actually know...........and can't stand....:cwink: My reason for saying......"the fans will move on"....is because after awhile....the crying over a loss that they had nothing to do with, begins to look and sound silly. Be upset......say your piece......and then let others make themselves look like asses for rubbing it in. In the end, the lowest payed Pats player, will still make more tomorrow, than all of us put together........:cwink: He'll get over it........

[Memphis Slim]

and not for nothing Tom Brady still has Gisele, I dont know if thats as good as a Super Bowl ring but it should count for something


For now....:whatever:

[Addendum]

I knew that the Super bowl was going to be a great game, no matter who won.

The only thing I didn't like was the halftime show. Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers played good, but I just didn't like the songs being cut in half.

[Erzengel]

I think the chickens came home to roost in that last 2-minute drive by the Giants. Eli and crew are not an offensive powerhouse by any stretch. But the Pat D really looked like they ran out of gas. 18 games straight....never resting your defensive starters....those "old" starters like "Senior Seau", Brusci.... even when they had 52-point leads. Never letting up.....trying to prove a point. Humiliating their opponents when they could....I think that Pats D just got tired. It's not like the Giants are dazzling by any means.

Just a great day for the universe! :woot:

And Spy-Gate is still "NOT OVER". :waa:
Please stop, you are making the Giants blush. :whatever:

[Excel]

Also - Excel - you want people to show YOUR team Respect? Why should we? Your coach is an ******* that doesn't show anyone else the respect you feel we should show his team.

How the hell does Belichick not show respect? He was the single most respected man in the league aside from commissioner in this decade until Eric Manginni said he cheated. Yall love to ignore that other teams do it and coaches who have retired have admitted it and said everyone does and act if its only our coach.

People hate the Pats cause of how good they are its that simple. Pats have gone from bandwagon team to love to bandwagon team to boo because they went from David to Goliath.

I recall posting a pic of Randy Moss along with pics of brady, maroney, stallworth, wlker and thomas on the Saturday before 1 and saying it = lombardy trophy pic.

The response? The same pic of moss, but an = sign and then a pic of a train wreck. All yall laughed and said itd blow up in our face. Howd that turn out?

Yall hate that we went 18-0 and did with wins over Indy and Dallas on the road. Its too much success, its just too much of everything working from drafts picks to free agent signings to trades all going our way.

Thats the deal and yall not being able to admit it is a lot more sad than me not being able to instantly get over my team blowing 19-0 with 35 seconds left in the season.

I dont even wanna know what this means. Seau was all set to retire at 19-0 with a super bowl ring. Now what? Does he come back again? Make that kinda committment? How bout the youngsters? How their 1st or 2nd season end with such enormous dissappointment? **** aint easy to deal with.

Good thing pitchers and catchers report soon.

[M.O.Steel]

I think the chickens came home to roost in that last 2-minute drive by the Giants. Eli and crew are not an offensive powerhouse by any stretch. But the Pat D really looked like they ran out of gas. 18 games straight....never resting your defensive starters....those "old" starters like "Senior Seau", Brusci.... even when they had 52-point leads. Never letting up.....trying to prove a point. Humiliating their opponents when they could....I thing that Pats D just got tired. It's not like the Giants are dazzling by any means.

Just a great day for the universe! :woot:

And Spy-Gate is still "NOT OVER". :waa:

I agree. I think that cost them the game.

[M.O.Steel]

and not for nothing Tom Brady still has Gisele, I dont know if thats as good as a Super Bowl ring but it should count for something

I think it would have if he got her at super bowl or after. She was with him the whole season.

[StorminNorman]

Boss looked great in his position.

I agree. The Giants had an amazing draft.

[Memphis Slim]

does this mean no more babbling and posting Payton Manning holding up the Lombardi trophy in 06??


Pictures of Eli, maybe!:woot:

[Excel]

:waa:

Seriously Dude, that's poor.

Everbody Hates Them... :waa:

They had their chances... :waa:

BTW, if you want to be treated like a grown man stop with the 'n' ****.

Heh now you making me chuckle. :cmad:

[rdh007]

and not for nothing Tom Brady still has Gisele, I dont know if thats as good as a Super Bowl ring but it should count for something
My wife volunteered to make him feel better. I couldn't argue with her since I don't have three rings or millions of dollars.

[Erzengel]

How the hell does Belichick not show respect?
You mean like when he accepted the job as Jets manager and during his introduction got to the podium and said I quit?

Yeah. Lot of respect for him.

[M.O.Steel]

How the hell does Belichick not show respect? He was the single most respected man in the league aside from commissioner in this decade until Eric Manginni said he cheated. Yall love to ignore that other teams do it and coaches who have retired have admitted it and said everyone does and act if its only our coach.

People hate the Pats cause of how good they are its that simple. Pats have gone from bandwagon team to love to bandwagon team to boo because they went from David to Goliath.

I recall posting a pic of Randy Moss along with pics of brady, maroney, stallworth, wlker and thomas on the Saturday before 1 and saying it = lombardy trophy pic.

The response? The same pic of moss, but an = sign and then a pic of a train wreck. All yall laughed and said itd blow up in our face. Howd that turn out?

Yall hate that we went 18-0 and did with wins over Indy and Dallas on the road. Its too much success, its just too much of everything working from drafts picks to free agent signings to trades all going our way.

Thats the deal and yall not being able to admit it is a lot more sad than me not being able to instantly get over my team blowing 19-0 with 35 seconds left in the season.

I dont even wanna know what this means. Seau was all set to retire at 19-0 with a super bowl ring. Now what? Does he come back again? Make that kinda committment? How bout the youngsters? How their 1st or 2nd season end with such enormous dissappointment? **** aint easy to deal with.

Good thing pitchers and catchers report soon.

About the first part, i do agree that people hate them because of how good they are. They never trash-talked or anything. They were the MOST humble team i've ever seen. Spygate is a bad situation, but the players are as humble as you get. PEople hate them cause they are good, not because they are jerks.

I don't really agree with this part because, its' a competition, and these guys lost. End of story. Giants shouldn't feel pity and let them win because he was about to retire. If he had the intention of retiring, then he should, if it wasn't enough and he wants a ring, then he should stay. But you can't feel sorry for them. Its their job. They get paid, LOTS and LOTS of money. About the rookies, are you kidding?? To reach the big game is a HUGE accomplishment for them so early in their career, most veterans don't even get to experience it, i highly doubt it would be an unbearable emotion weight. You can't have your cake and eat it too. They're rookies, they'll get over it.

[Fran]

Excel, keep going. You make me look good from the Survivor outburst :o

[Jerry!]

You mean like when he accepted the job as Jets manager and during his introduction got to the podium and said I quit?

Yeah. Lot of respect for him.

That actually was hilarious.

[Addendum]

You mean like when he accepted the job as Jets manager and during his introduction got to the podium and said I quit?

Yeah. Lot of respect for him.

But dude, it was the ****ing Jets.

[Erzengel]

That actually was hilarious.
I felt that was low class. Don't take a position and then flip flop on it, especially, when you were with the team for 2 years.

[Excel]

It was the Jets :o

PEople hate them because of how good they are. They never trash-talked or anything. They were the MOST humble team i've ever seen. Spygate is a bad situation, but the players are as humble as you get. PEople hate them cause they are good, not because they are jerks.

Thank you.

[Addendum]

I felt that was low class. Don't take a position and then flip flop on it, especially, when you were with the team for 2 years.

A Giants fan defending the Jets :huh:

[Erzengel]

But dude, it was the ****ing Jets.
I have my favorite NY teams but I like any team that plays for the greatest city in the world. :o

[Fran]

Belichick doesn't show class:
A) By hardly complementing the Giants on their victory
B) Walking off the field Moss-style with 2 seconds left in the game to finish
C) Cutting the sleeves on his hoodies.

[Addendum]

I have my favorite NY teams but I like any team that plays for the greatest city in the world. :o

The beautiful city of East Rutherford, New Jersey :woot:

[Erzengel]

It was the Jets :o



Thank you.
Oh, I guess you forgot your stance on respect. :huh:

[Erzengel]

The beautiful city of East Rutherford, New Jersey :woot:
Eh, born in NY live in Jersey, it doesn't bother me they play in Jersey.

[Fran]

Thank you.

Dude, you're acting like an arrogant and pompous ass right now.

I hate New England. I hate them for ruining the Rams dynasty that could have happened (especially if the taping is true). I hate them for this Spygate scandal. I don't care if you tape games, just don't get CAUGHT and have the media exploit your behavior. That's why I hate New England. I hate Tom Brady, because he is a Michigan QB (who has gotten owned by Plaxico twice now). I hate him because he gets more and more arrogant as the years go on, especially scoffing at Plaxico's guarantee.

I don't hate them just because they were undefeated. That doesn't matter, really.

[Addendum]

Just messing

[Erzengel]

http://nfl.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p4500383dt.jpg

[Showtime]

I dont really care about what hes done, I just care about what hes capible. Boston Globe had an article on him bout a month ago where there nothing but praise from Blelichik and his appearent mentor, Randy Moss.

All I know hes a 6'1 muscled dude who runs a 4.3 and had the best hands of his class. His catches in 2006 were no joke watch em on NFL.com; their usually some acrobatic leap or some **** and if hes on one end of the field and Wlker and Moss on the other, CJac aint gonna get **** attention paid to him.


I just don't understand why you think he is going to get major playing time all of a sudden. The guy has been completely off the depth chart for the past couple years. He returned some kicks this year in a couple games. That is it.

He was even behind players like Gafney and Cauldwell last year. The guy is not the next Jerry Rice. Let's wait to see the guy actually play. Running a 4.3 doesn't mean anything, he can be as fast as cheetah but that hasn't done that much for him so far.

[Excel]

Belichick doesn't show class:
A) By hardly complementing the Giants on their victory
B) Walking off the field Moss-style with 2 seconds left in the game to finish
C) Cutting the sleeves on his hoodies.

A)He gave Coughlin a hug :huh:
B)He didnt know there was 2 seconds left or care. He was giving the Giants the win and had already congratulated them, wouldnt that a classy act?
C)He wore a damn RED HOODIE! ! :cmad: :cmad:

Dude, you're acting like an arrogant and pompous ass right now.

I hate New England. I hate them for ruining the Rams dynasty that could have happened (especially if the taping is true). I hate them for this Spygate scandal. I don't care if you tape games, just don't get CAUGHT and have the media exploit your behavior. That's why I hate New England. I hate Tom Brady, because he is a Michigan QB (who has gotten owned by Plaxico twice now). I hate him because he gets more and more arrogant as the years go on, especially scoffing at Plaxico's guarantee.

I don't hate them just because they were undefeated. That doesn't matter, really.

Chill, you aint talking **** n telling me to get over it.

[Fran]

http://nfl.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p4500383dt.jpg

Is that real?

[M.O.Steel]

But dude, it was the ****ing Jets.:lmao::pal:

[StorminNorman]

How the hell does Belichick not show respect? He was the single most respected man in the league aside from commissioner in this decade until Eric Manginni said he cheated. Yall love to ignore that other teams do it and coaches who have retired have admitted it and said everyone does and act if its only our coach.

People hate the Pats cause of how good they are its that simple. Pats have gone from bandwagon team to love to bandwagon team to boo because they went from David to Goliath.

Belichick was one of the most respected COACHES in the league (not men).

But my problem with Belichick is not as simple as him cheating. It is his attitude of "well I don't care about the rules". It is his ignoring coaches after the game. It is him cutting off his sleeves because he can. Its him putting Randy Moss as safety against the Dolphins on the last play when the were up by several touchdowns. Its him running up the score. Its him leaving before the game is over - even though his players do the same.

The guy does NOT show respect to anyone. He doesn't deserve any now.

[Excel]

I just don't understand why you think he is going to get major playing time all of a sudden. The guy has been completely off the depth chart for the past couple years. He returned some kicks this year in a couple games. That is it.

He was even behind players like Gafney and Cauldwell last year. The guy is not the next Jerry Rice. Let's wait to see the guy actually play. Running a 4.3 doesn't mean anything, he can be as fast as cheetah but that hasn't done that much for him so far.

Its easy to figure out how hell get playing time. Stallworth is gone and Gaffney is more than likely too. Kelly Washingtons the only guy infront of him and seeing as Jackson had all the physical tools I dont see why he wont get a shot.

This is his 2nd season; he was banging up all last year and tore his ACL against the colts last AFC Championship game.

Wide reciever is the last thing the Patriots need help at and this kid has all the physical tools to preform, thats all. I dont see Kelley Washington going over him, or any other guy they sign.

[Erzengel]

Don't know. I kinda looked based on the link, but kinda dead ends.

[Memphis Slim]

http://nfl.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p4500383dt.jpg


If that's real, I want one. :woot:

[Addendum]

The stuff about him cutting off his sleeves is just too damn funny

[Excel]

Belichick was one of the most respected COACHES in the league (not men).

But my problem with Belichick is not as simple as him cheating. It is his attitude of "well I don't care about the rules". It is his ignoring coaches after the game. It is him cutting off his sleeves because he can. Its him putting Randy Moss as safety against the Dolphins on the last play when the were up by several touchdowns. Its him running up the score. Its him leaving before the game is over - even though his players do the same.

The guy does NOT show respect to anyone. He doesn't deserve any now.

Those are valid points for not liking someone except they dont fit Bill. How does he not cares about the rules. Unless you hate every coach because every coach tapes film.

And as most have noticed, they played 4 quarters against everybody because they knew at some pint theyd have to and they did and it paid off n games like the ones at Baltimore and Indy and the Giants.

[StorminNorman]

Its easy to figure out how hell get playing time. Stallworth is gone and Gaffney is more than likely too. Kelly Washingtons the only guy infront of him and seeing as Jackson had all the physical tools I dont see why he wont get a shot.

This is his 2nd season; he was banging up all last year and tore his ACL against the colts last AFC Championship game.

Wide reciever is the last thing the Patriots need help at and this kid has all the physical tools to preform, thats all. I dont see Kelley Washington going over him, or any other guy they sign.

Really? Do you really believe that? Stallworth and Moss currently don't have contracts.

[NewYorkSpider]

Shockey should be cut.

What type of **** was that last night? Boozing it up in some VIP suite instead of being with HIS team?

Cut that *******.

I heard that injured players that are out for the season aren't allowed at the sidelines during the postseason. He originaly wasn't even going to make the trip out to Arizona.

[StorminNorman]

Those are valid points for not liking someone except they dont fit Bill. How does he not cares about the rules. Unless you hate every coach because every coach tapes film.

And as most have noticed, they played 4 quarters against everybody because they knew at some pint theyd have to and they did and it paid off n games like the ones at Baltimore and Indy and the Giants.

He cheated! Plain and simple. There was not this swell of pass coaches saying they did the same thing as you seem to have imagined. He cheated. He KNEW he was cheating. He did it anyway.

He runs up the score on team - putting his players in unnecessary risk.

But again - last night was further example of his complete lack of class. You DO NOT LEAVE THE GAME BEFORE ITS OVER. Moss was bashed for it years ago - but this is even worse than Randy Moss. A COACH IS SUPPOSE TO KNOW BETTER.

[Addendum]

And if he was out for the season, wouldn't he have been taken off the roster?

[Excel]

Really? Do you really believe that? Stallworth and Moss currently don't have contracts.

Stallworth has an option for like 10 million next season the Pats obviously wont pick up because its 10 million bucks and that would make him a free agent...and its forgone conclusion by most that Moss is coming back...so I dont see the point of that post...

[Memphis Slim]

Excel:
How the hell does Belichick not show respect? He was the single most respected man in the league aside from commissioner in this decade until Eric Manginni said he cheated.



uh....News Flash: "That's usually what happens when someone who is thought to be honest is found to be a scum bag. You lose your good name.

Not only did Mangini rat on him, it was TRUE. :waa:

[M.O.Steel]

Dude, you're acting like an arrogant and pompous ass right now.

I hate New England. I hate them for ruining the Rams dynasty that could have happened (especially if the taping is true). I hate them for this Spygate scandal. I don't care if you tape games, just don't get CAUGHT and have the media exploit your behavior. That's why I hate New England. I hate Tom Brady, because he is a Michigan QB (who has gotten owned by Plaxico twice now). I hate him because he gets more and more arrogant as the years go on, especially scoffing at Plaxico's guarantee.

I don't hate them just because they were undefeated. That doesn't matter, really.

I was rooting for the rams that year. However, you can use the same argument here versus that. Giants ruined a "bigger" dynasty, but they won the football game when it mattered, just like the 2001 pats (this is assuming they didn't cheat). I really don't see Brady as being arrogant, i sorry. Brady and Moss are really humble, considering who they are. He was not scoffing at plaxico's guarantee win, but how he gave both teams a low score, considering it was 38-35 last time. He would have prefered 45-42 against them. Also, come on, you're telling me brady was the more arrogant one, even though it was in response to plaxico's guarantee win?

[Excel]

The dynasty didnt get ruined. 3 Super Bowl titles in 4 years, and undefeated regular season 3 seasons later?

If Brady wins another super bowl or 2 this will just turn into another accolade of his, that he all went 16-0.

uh....News Flash: "That's usually what happens when someone who is thought to be honest is found to be a scum bag. You lose your good name.

Not only did Mangini rat on him, it was TRUE. :waa:

Thats not the point- every coach cheated. Mike Ditka said Mangini is the least respected coach in the NFL because they all do it and so does Mangini.

Belichick aint no different than any other coach. Even Tony Dungy who I love.

[Fran]

He could have been the bigger man and just declined to comment on the guarantee.

But like all Michigan players, he had to be the more cocky and arrogant person, whereas Plax was deemed delusional and crazy for predicting a win.

[M.O.Steel]

http://nfl.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p4500383dt.jpg

HAHA...man, that's a tough choice between that and the one on the bottom.

[M.O.Steel]

He could have been the bigger man and just declined to comment on the guarantee.

But like all Michigan players, he had to be the more cocky and arrogant person, whereas Plax was deemed delusional and crazy for predicting a win.

Come on, that's not even fair. He did that all year. He accepted the predicted win, what more do you want. I know you nor I could decline to comment. its the superbowl, and they both were obviously having fun. I mean, he turned the other cheek.

[Excel]

He could have been the bigger man and just declined to comment on the guarantee.

But like all Michigan players, he had to be the more cocky and arrogant person, whereas Plax was deemed delusional and crazy for predicting a win.

I believe he laughed it off. Bradys the best kinda sportmans there is. You wont ever see him put down an opponent or teammate, its always the opposite.

Again he didnt mind that he said theyd lose, he just minded that Plax said theyd only put 17 after dropping 38 on em amonth ago.

[StorminNorman]

I heard that injured players that are out for the season aren't allowed at the sidelines during the postseason. He originaly wasn't even going to make the trip out to Arizona.

I, honestly, don't believe this. I mean you have ex pro's on the sidelines.

[Fran]

Well. I'm biased, since I hate Michigan :)

He scoffed at the comment.

[StorminNorman]

He could have been the bigger man and just declined to comment on the guarantee.

But like all Michigan players, he had to be the more cocky and arrogant person, whereas Plax was deemed delusional and crazy for predicting a win.

It was a tongue in cheek remark.

[Excel]

Sammie Morris was on the sideline I believe

[StorminNorman]

Stallworth has an option for like 10 million next season the Pats obviously wont pick up because its 10 million bucks and that would make him a free agent...and its forgone conclusion by most that Moss is coming back...so I dont see the point of that post...

Nothing is a forgone conclusion. IF Moss comes back - your post is valid. If its not - the Patriots NEED to worry about WR since Wes Walker is not a Number 1.

[M.O.Steel]

He could have been the bigger man and just declined to comment on the guarantee.

But like all Michigan players, he had to be the more cocky and arrogant person, whereas Plax was deemed delusional and crazy for predicting a win.

and arrogant.

[Addendum]

Yeah, and everyone that wasn't a Giant fan scoffed at it.

Now, if the score was actually what he said it would be, then everyone would have said "holy ****"

[Fran]

I just love Burress. That's all.

[Memphis Slim]

Thats not the point- every coach cheated. Mike Ditka said Mangini is the least respected coach in the NFL because they all do it and so does Mangini.

Belichick aint no different than any other coach. Even Tony Dungy who I love.


But The "genius got caught"! That changes everything. :waa:

And until you find video tape for the other teams, you got nothing. :woot:

[Addendum]

And if the "taping" of the Rams before Superbowl 39 doesn't turn up, there's nothing there either

[Fran]

Taping a walkthrough is pretty big, though. Gives away the whole gameplan. :csad:

I hope it's true. :)

[Memphis Slim]

And if the "taping" of the Rams before Superbowl 39 doesn't turn up, there's nothing there either

True....
but the question of the destroyed tapes is there.

Why would Goodell burn those tapes??

I heard that he a Craft are buds.

[Showtime]

Its easy to figure out how hell get playing time. Stallworth is gone and Gaffney is more than likely too. Kelly Washingtons the only guy infront of him and seeing as Jackson had all the physical tools I dont see why he wont get a shot.

This is his 2nd season; he was banging up all last year and tore his ACL against the colts last AFC Championship game.

Wide reciever is the last thing the Patriots need help at and this kid has all the physical tools to preform, thats all. I dont see Kelley Washington going over him, or any other guy they sign.

They might cut him too though, and restock themselves with free agents as they did this year, or they might draft one. Even if he does get more playing time I am not sure why you think this guy is all that good. You know how many guys there have been who looked good in a combine and at the college level who deflated on the big stage. I will wait until the guy actually does something before I get too excited about him.

[jaguarr]

and not for nothing Tom Brady still has Gisele, I dont know if thats as good as a Super Bowl ring but it should count for something

Well, either one will fit on your finger. :up:

jag

[Fran]

Hahahahaha... like Bonds, we could put a * by the Pats Super Bowl XXXVI victory :o

[Addendum]

It'd be funny if they find the tape, and you see the Rams line up for the first play and then it cuts to a gladiator film or something

[Showtime]

True....
but the question of the destroyed tapes is there.

Why would Goodell burn those tapes??

I heard that he a Craft are buds.

You disappeared after the Colts loss and now have come out of the woodwork once the Patriots have lost. That is quite sad. I guess seeing Peyton Manning as a cheerleader on Super Bowl Sunday reminded you we have an NFL thread. :cwink:

[Kelly]

Well, either one will fit on your finger. :up:

jag



And yet all I see is your thumb.................:woot:

[Fran]

It'd be funny if they find the tape, and you see the Rams line up for the first play and then it cuts to a gladiator film or something

No it wouldn't :cmad:

Maybe if it was a gay porn video then I'd be okay with it. Because they benefited from it :funny:

[jaguarr]

And yet all I see is your thumb.................:woot:

I'm glad you're paying attention. ;) :heart:

jag

[Excel]

They might cut him too though, and restock themselves with free agents as they did this year, or they might draft one. Even if he does get more playing time I am not sure why you think this guy is all that good. You know how many guys there have been who looked good in a combine and at the college level who deflated on the big stage. I will wait until the guy actually does something before I get too excited about him.

He had 3 touches last season and all of were nice grabs, check on nfl.com. They arent easy pics.

[Addendum]

No it wouldn't :cmad:

Maybe if it was a gay porn video then I'd be okay with it. Because they benefited from it :funny:

If it was gay porn, that'd be funny seeing the reactions of the senators and then C-Span would put a picture of the Capitol building with "Technical Difficulties - Please Stand By"

[Fran]

And then C-Span would be on hold for like an hour.

[NewYorkSpider]

I, honestly, don't believe this. I mean you have ex pro's on the sidelines.

You're right. I looked it up. The Giants invited him to Arizona, but it seems he didn't want to be on the sidelines cause it was reported that Eli was happy he wasn't playing any more.

[Showtime]

I find it hilarious that people are hoping that the Patriots cheated. This rumor has been floating around for months and months and nothing has come of it. The commisioner of the NFL has said there is no evidence of cheating on the tapes he went through, granted not from 2001. However, some of you are getting hopeful based off one employees word, that is not enough evidence. If they did and real evidence comes out, then it's a disgrace. Until then.

As a Patriot fan I was pissed that there was cheating involved during the Jets game and the Patriots organization and Belichick deserved what they got. That being said they went 18-0 and lost by 3 points in the Super Bowl which just shows me that the team and their coach are just that damn good. Good is the key word though, the great team of the 2007 season is the NYG. The Patriots are #2 despite all the records, hoopla, and fanfare.

When I am watching a player perform on the field, a coach call plays on the sideline, or even an actor or actress in a movie, all I know and care about is their performance. I don't care if they are smoking beans or smuggling illegal fireworks into their town. I care about what happens between the lines. It doesn't matter to me if Belichick is a horrible interview or if he is mean to reporters. I care about what he does on the field. I respect Bill Belichick as a coach, but not as a man. I don't have to though. He is not my dad or my brother, nor is he my friend. He is a coach. So him taping another team, that upsets me. The walking of the field early thing, not so much, the Rams did it in 2001. Not a big deal. Him not wanting to be the coach of the Jets, that is a personal decision. Coach. Not man.

[Memphis Slim]

You disappeared after the Colts loss and now have come out of the woodwork once the Patriots have lost. That is quite sad. I guess seeing Peyton Manning as a cheerleader on Super Bowl Sunday reminded you we have an NFL thread. :cwink:


You missed me!! :woot: :waa:

[Showtime]

He had 3 touches last season and all of were nice grabs, check on nfl.com. They arent easy pics.

You mean 2006. So what though? How does that mean anything?

[Memphis Slim]

Seriously, I've stayed away because of the picture Nazis, Matt and Kel. Can't have fun anymore.

[Showtime]

You missed me!! :woot: :waa:

I just love how you approach things. It's awe inspiring.

I notice you used the all to cute crying smilie. It's tough to cry about 5 AFC Title Games in the last 7 years, winning 4 of them. 4 Super Bowls in the last 7 years, winning 3 of them. 16-0 regular season. This list goes on. Luckily I respect the Giants and the game of football enough not to be a cry baby about it. The Giants deserve it, so does Eli. The Patriots season is indeed a failure in my eyes, but there is nothing to cry about.

[Kelly]

That's a shame.....

[Showtime]

Seriously, I've stayed away because of the picture Nazis, Matt and Kel. Can't have fun anymore.

No more Belichick with his rings and Peyton with his Superbowl and MVP(s). :csad:

[Addendum]

If it was the Colts and the Giants in the superbowl, celldog would have assploded because he'd have to decide which Manning to love

[NewYorkSpider]

Go Panthers. :csad:

[Excel]

You mean 2006. So what though? How does that mean anything?

touchDOWNS*

I dont remember any of his other catches, his missed training camp both seasons so far n got hurt in the middle of last year.

[Showtime]

touchDOWNS*

I dont remember any of his other catches, his missed training camp both seasons so far n got hurt in the middle of last year.

I couldnt decipher Excelish. I thought you meant touches, as in kicks and catches. I am just not sold on this guy as a 3rd receiver. If he works out, all the better, I just didnt see anything exciting about him.

[Cmill216]

If it was the Colts and the Giants in the superbowl, celldog would have assploded because he'd have to decide which Manning to love

:lmao:

[M.O.Steel]

You disappeared after the Colts loss and now have come out of the woodwork once the Patriots have lost. That is quite sad. I guess seeing Peyton Manning as a cheerleader on Super Bowl Sunday reminded you we have an NFL thread. :cwink:

Come on. he's still a fan of the nfl. Nothing wrong with him taking a break. Peyton was supporting his younger brother. There's nothing wrong with that either.

[Fran]

:lmao:

Addendum is like Eli Manning.

He grew up this year. Dude is damn funny to read posts from :woot:

[Showtime]

Come on. he's still a fan of the nfl. Nothing wrong with him taking a break. Peyton was supporting his younger brother. There's nothing wrong with that either.

I was joking with Slim, he doesn't need a defense team. He knows I am joking with him, we do that.

[M.O.Steel]

I was joking with Slim, he doesn't need a defense team. He knows I am joking with him, we do that.

My bad, Sorry didn't know. carry on.

[Fran]

Hahaha I almost forgot this...

When Plaxico caught the game-winner, I jumped up from the couch and screamed, "YEEESSS PLAXICO!!! OH MY GOD!!!". The family where I was watching the game at had a dog who was pretty spunky.

The dog went "RUF RUF RUFFF :cmad:" at me, and started to hump my leg.

That was funny.

[NewYorkSpider]

^^That's hilarious.

I was at a friends apartment watching the Super Bowl. There was a Giants fan there. I swear that kid did not say one word during the entire game. Seriously.

[Badger]

You got mad dog mojo!!

[Fran]

I was quick on the draw, so I pushed him off my leg immediately. :o

[M.O.Steel]

^^That's hilarious.

I was at a friends apartment watching the Super Bowl. There was a Giants fan there. I swear that kid did not say one word during the entire game. Seriously.

Why? Was he the only NY fan?

[Jerry!]

No probably because he was waiting for the other shoe to drop the entire game, even after Eli threw the TD. I was too.

[Fran]

There were about 12 people at the house I was at... no Giants fans, but one Patriot fan.

The kid was stunned, and turned off his phone! :woot:

[M.O.Steel]

There were about 12 people at the house I was at... no Giants fans, but one Patriot fan.

The kid was stunned, and turned off his phone! :woot:

u're not a giants fan? I would to if i were him. how sad for NE frachise.

[Fran]

I'm a Rams fan.

But if they suck another year, I'm considering a move to the G-Men, because of Burress. I love him.

[M.O.Steel]

I'm a Rams fan.

But if they suck another year, I'm considering a move to the G-Men, because of Burress. I love him.

I liked kurt warner, marshall faulk, and isaac bruce. Good team. I wish kurt didn't fizzle away. I like him.

[NewYorkSpider]

Why? Was he the only NY fan?

He was the only Giants fan. When they scored that last TD, everyone but him jumped up and high fived each other.

[StorminNorman]

I liked kurt warner, marshall faulk, and isaac bruce. Good team. I wish kurt didn't fizzle away. I like him.

Kurt didn't fizzle. He is the best QB at Arizona.

[cyborg ninja 14]

That would be any "insert" city here. Fans are fickle, low on patience and shorter memories.

True, but places like New York, Boston, and Philly set themselves apart with their particular brand of insanity. (Most recent example but doesn't really relate to what I just said. It's more a nipitck if anything: Bill Simmons. A man who has long since lost his way from being unique, spends the whole year touting the Pats in all their glory. Or mabye it's because he's getting paid by ESPN to write a national sports column....about Boston based teams mostly?)

[BlackLantern]

Philly sports fans are scum.....

[NewYorkSpider]

Philly sports fans are scum.....

Most of them are, but not all of them.

[Dark Donnie]

Philly sports fans are scum.....
Most of them are, but not all of them.
haha, lets not start with the name calling, you are a Giants Fan, but any case elaborate please why we are scum?

[Erzengel]

True, but places like New York, Boston, and Philly set themselves apart with their particular brand of insanity. (Most recent example but doesn't really relate to what I just said. It's more a nipitck if anything: Bill Simmons. A man who has long since lost his way from being unique, spends the whole year touting the Pats in all their glory. Or mabye it's because he's getting paid by ESPN to write a national sports column....about Boston based teams mostly?)

Philly sports fans are scum.....

Most of them are, but not all of them.
Philly fans are probably chomping at the bit. Especially since most of their wins in all sports were in the early 80s, except for the Eagles.

It's funny Jersey is split in 2. Northern and Central are pretty much NY fans and Southern Jersey is Philadelphia fans.

[BlackLantern]

haha, lets not start with the name calling, you are a Giants Fan, but any case elaborate please why we are scum?

You boo Santa Claus and any athlete thats worth a damn...... and they end up leaving and having better success elsewhere.......and its going to happen again when McNabb leaves, either now or after next season, and goes to Chicago

[BlackLantern]

so both Tom Brady and Randy Moss will not play in the Pro Bowl....I understand, the Pats have been at full speed all season and they can finally rest, but the Pro Bowl is for the fans and this is their job so im kinda split about it

[Erzengel]

Well Brady's ankle has been the topic of question for 2 weeks before the Superbowl and allegedly Moss hurt himself during.

*shrug*

Part of me is like sh't happens, but another part of me wonders if they are being spoiled.

[Dark Donnie]

You boo Santa Claus and any athlete thats worth a damn...... and they end up leaving and having better success elsewhere.......and its going to happen again when McNabb leaves, either now or after next season, and goes to Chicago

That Santa thing really needs to die already....it's not even entirely true.

If McNabb leaves it won't be anything us fans ever did...the guy has been injury 3 of the last 4 seasons. He is injury prone of late. We HAD to draft a future QB because at this rate he might not have to much left.
McNabb has gone on record that he wants to stay, and likely will unless the Eagles are blown away by some offer. The Eagles will never trade him to Chicago....they'll send him to the AFC if anywhere.

What other athlete have we drove out of town that has gone on to be successful. NY fans act the same way, they boo when your struggling and cheer when your winning. It's the same everywhere.

[BlackLantern]

not in terms of championships, but both Charles Barkeley and Allen Iverson have done better with teams they went to after leaving Philly....Reggie White left the Eagles and went to the Packers

[Excel]

Whatever, opcho cinco and anderson are good replacements.

showtime here are some links to chad jackson catches last year. Nothing moss-esque, but hes got talent.

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801b0e47

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801ac054

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80161335
^thats a nice catch

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80161272

[Erzengel]

Before the Superbowl, I heard a Boston news/sports caster stating how obnoxious NY fans were in victory and even more so in defeat.

After reading some of the stuff off the Boston Globe, let's just say those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. I empathize but I don't sympathize.

[Erzengel]

A mixture of pride and joy - and, let's face it, a day off work and school - sent New York Giants fans flocking to lower Manhattan on Tuesday for a ticker-tape parade to honor the Super Bowl heroes.

Nick Mascarelli, 12, a seventh-grader from Staten Island, arrived early for the midday parade with his mother, twin brother and friends. "It's great not going to school," conceded Nick, his face painted half red and half blue.

The parade will begin at the tip of lower Manhattan in Battery Park and proceed north on Broadway, going past the financial district and the site of the World Trade Center before finishing at City Hall Park. The stretch is known as the "Canyon of Heroes."

As the team assembled at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, N.J., for the bus ride into Manhattan, many players carried video cameras to record personal images of the parade, which was expected to draw upwards of 1 million fans.

"I still can't believe it," defensive end Michael Strahan said. "I'm still in some kind of shock."

The Giants last won the Super Bowl in 1991, and the last New York team to win a championship in any of the four major sports was the New York Yankees in 2000.

The Giants will be showered with some 50 tons of confetti, and Bloomberg will give team officials the key to the city after the parade.

All the while, New Yorkers will be casting their ballots for president. New York and the 23 other Super Tuesday states are holding primaries that could collectively seal the fates of the Democratic and Republican presidential candidates.

Just south of City Hall, politics and the parade crossed paths as signs for Democratic candidate Barack Obama were surrounded by fans wearing Giants red, white and blue.

The city had tons of shredded paper on hand for the parade, but some fans came prepared with toilet paper. An hour before the parade, several street lamps along Broadway were covered in streams of white tissue.

Justice Rodriguez, 11, of Brooklyn, was up at 3 a.m. with his father and half-dozen friends to secure a spot along Broadway complete with chairs, food and a camcorder.

"I want to see Eli Manning," said the boy, who wore a Manning No. 10 shirt over a puffy down jacket.

"It's exciting for him," said Justice's father, Juan Rodriguez, who took the day off from his car wash job. "You never know when they'll win again."

...

[The Techno Bat]

I am a huge Washington Redskins fan and I think in 2008 they will be alot better, with everything they went through this year and the distractions and injuries and the death of Sean Taylor I am surprised they made the playoffs.

But with Campbell & McIntosh back and healthy it will be a fun and improving year for the Skins... They could even post 10, maybe 11 wins

One thing that always bothers me is how the so called experts always dump on the NFC East and say what a weak division it is, funny thing is it's not. They play some rough and tough football and great defense. And 3 of the 4 NFC teams made the playoffs. One had the best record in the NFC (Cowboys) and the other won the Superbowl (Giants)

[Dark Donnie]

not in terms of championships, but both Charles Barkeley and Allen Iverson have done better with teams they went to after leaving Philly....Reggie White left the Eagles and went to the Packers
Reggie White:
Reggie White wasn'y driven out of town, he was beloved. We didn't have the money to sign White. Christ he's the only Eagle to have there own shrine at the new staduim. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/12398/reg.jpg
Iverson
Allen Iverson had nothing but off the court problems. Many around the NBA believed we held onto him to long. He quit on Mo Cheeks last year. The simple fact is Iverson didn't make anyone around him better. The fans knew he played his heart out, which is why he was always cheered. Every interview Iverson does, all he says is how much he loves the Philly fans.
Barkley
Barkely wanted out of Philly because management didn't make the team better. He wasn't driven out at all. Also I think people forget the amount of trouble Barkely got into with the fights and spitting on people but anyway, heres an article:
"Barkley spent eight seasons in Philadelphia, but the team's best showing during his tenure was in his first year, when the Sixers went 58-24 in the regular season and advanced all the way to the 1985 Eastern Conference Finals, where they lost to the Boston Celtics in five games. After several disappointing early-round playoff defeats, the Sixers failed to make the postseason in 1991–92 and Barkley wanted out of the City of Brotherly Love.

Barkley's time in Philly brought headlines and headaches. The incidents were many, such as the infamous spitting incident during a game against the New Jersey Nets where Barkley's expectorant, aimed at a heckler, landed on a young girl at the Meadowlands Arena."

Got anymore?

[dr venture]

http://i32.tinypic.com/316lzcm.jpg

[Dark Donnie]

Good News

Charles Grant-DL-Saints Feb. 5 - 10:48 am et

Atlanta Police have determined that Charles Grant was not involved in a bar brawl that ended with him being stabbed in the neck last Saturday.

Police have also found no connection between Grant and a pregnant woman who was shot and killed during the fight. Grant sustained only minor injuries and should be ready for the Saints' offseason conditioning program.
Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune

[jaguarr]

Glad to hear Grant's going to be okay. :up:

jag

[Mister J]

I didn't know it was possible to get stabbed in the neck and only sustain minor injuries. Was the knife or whatever made by Nerf? :confused:

Anyway, I'm glad it's not serious for him. The news about the woman is terrible.

[Alex The Great]

Hahaha I almost forgot this...

When Plaxico caught the game-winner, I jumped up from the couch and screamed, "YEEESSS PLAXICO!!! OH MY GOD!!!". The family where I was watching the game at had a dog who was pretty spunky.

The dog went "RUF RUF RUFFF :cmad:" at me, and started to hump my leg.

That was funny.
train your dog son

[jaguarr]

I didn't know it was possible to get stabbed in the neck and only sustain minor injuries. Was the knife or whatever made by Nerf? :confused:

Anyway, I'm glad it's not serious for him. The news about the woman is terrible.

No, no. Charles Grant's skin is nearly impervious to most commonly known metals and alloys. He was stabbed full force and barely sustained a scratch. That's how damn tough his skin is, son!

jag

[Mister J]

So, Charles Grant is actually an alias of Omega Red. I'll be damned.

There's no way he shouldn't be near the league lead in sacks. Slacker.

[Fran]

train your dog son

It wasn't my dog... it was the family's whose house I was at.

[jaguarr]

So, Charles Grant is actually an alias of Omega Red. I'll be damned.

There's no way he shouldn't be near the league lead in sacks. Slacker.

I, too, feel he's been holding back. :o

jag

[Erzengel]

I have a video of the dog humping Fran. :eek:

3z1vuiy9IVo

[jaguarr]

Fran, it's bad manners to smex up the pets of people who's home you are a guest in. :down

jag

[Fran]

Blame Plaxico Burress for it all. He caught the game-winning touchdown which caused me to bend my leg in celebration and have the dog go nuts on it! :cmad:

Also - I don't have a Wii anymore :o

[jaguarr]

I have a video of the dog humping Fran. :eek:

3z1vuiy9IVo

That's almost as funny as that Sesame Street's Count vid you posted in the Youtube thread. That kid is going to need therapy to get over the hate he probably has for his parents for just videotaping that and laughing instead of getting the dog off of him.

jag

[Fran]

His brother taped it... he planned it for a while too.

[jaguarr]

Pre-meditated dog humping!? :eek:

jag

[Fran]

The brother was like Batman... he had prep-time.

[Erzengel]

Why is Whoopi Goldberg there at the Giants Parade? :huh:

[BlackLantern]

she is from NY and has said she is a Giants fan before

[Fran]

I wish I could find a video of Strahan's speech after the game Sunday night.

[BlackLantern]

or Tiki interviewing Eli.....

[Fran]

I forgot about Tiki... the Giants gave him a big "F U" Sunday night. :up:

[Showtime]

...

To think we've had 5 championship parades in the Boston area in the 2000's. Two with the Red Sox and three with the Patriots, after not having one here since the Celtics last championship in the mid 80's. It's an awesome spectacle, enjoy it!

[Fran]

And the Celtics will have to wait. :cwink:

[Showtime]

And the Celtics will have to wait. :cwink:

I'll just give you a we'll see on that one. Meanwhile...

http://www.rbk.com/us/perfectville/

[Erzengel]

To think we've had 5 championship parades in the Boston area in the 2000's. Two with the Red Sox and three with the Patriots, after not having one here since the Celtics last championship in the mid 80's. It's an awesome spectacle, enjoy it!

The last one was only 7 years ago so it's not like it was a long stretch.

[Dark Donnie]

Early Mock

http://nfldraft.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=763411

1. Miami (1-15)
The Pick: Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College
The buzz: The Dolphins need a tough, talented leader to get them back to the playoffs. Bill Parcells will not hesitate to select a player like Ryan, who has proven skills and the intangibles necessary to play the game's most important position.
2. St. Louis (3-13)
The Pick: Chris Long, DE, Virginia
The buzz: The Rams will focus on both lines early in the draft, and Long would give them an impact defender and the ability to have a flexible front line.
x - 3. Atlanta (4-12)
The Pick: Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU
The buzz: The Falcons must totally rebuild on each side of the ball, and Dorsey could be the safest selection of the entire draft.
x - 4. Oakland (4-12)
The Pick: Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas*
The buzz: Al Davis rarely passes on a star-caliber prospect despite bigger needs in other areas..
x - 5. Kansas City (4-12)
The Pick: Jake Long, OT, Michigan
The buzz: The Chiefs' once-great offensive line has struggled in recent seasons. Long would be a fine addition for a revamped unit.
6. N.Y. Jets (4-12)
The Pick: Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC
The buzz: The Jets want to add a playmaker on their front line, and Ellis has been outstanding for USC.
7. New England (From San Francisco (5-11))
The Pick: Vernon Gholston, DE, Ohio State*
The buzz: The Patriots are looking for a young impact defender to add to their aging linebacker unit.
8. Baltimore (5-11)
The Pick: Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville
The buzz: The Ravens want one of the top two quarterbacks and may have to settle for Brohm at this spot.
9. Cincinnati (7-9)
The Pick: Kenny Phillips, FS, Miami*
The buzz: The Bengals defense gives up too many big passes, and Marvin Lewis needs a playmaker at free safety.
10. New Orleans (7-9)
The Pick: Keith Rivers, LB, USC
The buzz: The Saints defense is not at a playoff-caliber level, and Rivers would quickly help revamp this struggling unit.
11. Buffalo (7-9)
The Pick: Malcolm Kelly, WR, Oklahoma*
The buzz: The Bills wants to find a playmaker opposite Lee Evans so their young passers will have more than one option.
12. Denver (7-9)
The Pick: Reggie Smith, CB, Oklahoma*
The buzz: The Broncos secondary lacks talent and depth. Denver needs to address this unit early and often this April.
13. Carolina (7-9)
The Pick: Ryan Clady, OT, Boise St.*
The buzz: The Panthers offensive line would benefit from a top-flight tackle, especially on the left side.
14. Chicago (7-9)
The Pick: Calais Campbell, DE, Miami*
The buzz: The Bears are looking for help on both lines, though their free agency moves will dictate early draft selections.
15. Detroit (7-9)
The Pick: Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College
The buzz: The Lions must improve their pass protection in order to be considered legitimate playoff contenders.
16. Arizona (8-8)
The Pick: Aqib Talib, CB, Kansas*
The buzz: The Cardinals secondary needs another top cover man. Talib has the versatility to help in other areas as well.
17. Minnesota (8-8)
The Pick: DeSean Jackson, WR, California*
The buzz: The Vikings are looking for playmakers at wideout and in the return game, and Jackson could possibly fill both roles.
18. Houston (8-8)
The Pick: Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Illinois*
The buzz: The Texans are looking to add a young feature back to give some balance to this offensive unit.
19. Philadelphia (8-8)
The Pick: Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida*
The buzz: The Eagles want pass rushers to solidify their front seven on defense. Harvey has proven effective against top-flight competition in the Southeastern Conference.
20. Tampa Bay (9-7)
The Pick: Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona
The buzz: The Buccaneers are looking to rebuild a playoff-caliber defense, especially at cornerback.
21. Washington (9-7)
The Pick: Quentin Groves, DE, Auburn
The buzz: The Redskins are hoping to draft into the strong defensive end class to find an impact pass rusher for their front four.
22. Dallas (from Cleveland (10-6))
The Pick: Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida
The buzz: The Cowboys have big problems at receiver and cornerback that could be addressed with two first-round selections.
23. Pittsburgh (10-6)
The Pick: Jeff Otah, OT, Pittsburgh
The buzz: The Steelers will address their offensive line in this draft, and Otah is a tackle who carries a first-round grade.
24. Tennessee (10-6)
The Pick: Lawrence Jackson, DE, Southern Cal
The buzz: The Titans could face big defensive line losses in free agency. That makes this position a top priority in the draft.
25. Seattle (10-6)
The Pick: Jonathan Stewart, RB, Oregon*
The buzz: The Seahawks are searching for a young feature back because Shaun Alexander's production has slipped over recent seasons.
26. Jacksonville (11-5)
The Pick: Andre' Woodson, QB, Kentucky
The buzz: The Jaguars are looking to the future at this position, and they like a few prospects in this draft class.
27. San Diego (11-5)
The Pick: Kentwan Balmer, DT, North Carolina
The buzz: The Chargers could surprise here with a fast-rising prospect that fits well into their front three
28. Dallas (13-3)
The Pick: Mario Manningham, WR, Michigan*
The buzz: The Cowboys' receiving corps is thin and aging, and this position should be addressed early this April - possibly with more than one prospect.
29. San Francisco (From Indianapolis (13-3))
The Pick: James Hardy, WR, Indiana*
The buzz: The 49ers have neglected their weak receiving corps long enough. San Francisco needs another playmaker to help Alex Smith realize his potential.
30. Green Bay (13-3)
The Pick: Felix Jones, RB, Arkansas*
The buzz: The Packers will look to address their backfield early in this deep class. Jones would give them an impact weapon in several roles.
31. New England (16-0)
The Pick: Pick forfeited.
The Buzz: No first-round pick because of NFL sanctions following "Spygate" controversy.
32. NY Giants (10-6)
The Pick: Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy State
The buzz: The Big Blue defense is in search of another top-flight cover man opposite last year's top pick, Aaron Ross. McKelvin is also a dangerous return man.

[Fran]

I can see Ryan being the #1 pick. Sadly.

Manningham will be a great fit in Dallas, IMO.

[Erzengel]

The last one was only 7 years ago so it's not like it was a long stretch.

And if you include the Rangers, Giants, Yankees, & Mets it's like 9 in the past 20 years. :o

[Showtime]

The last one was only 7 years ago so it's not like it was a long stretch.

I assume your talking Yankees? I didn't say it was a stretch, but some might not also be Yankees fans and championships are not so easy to come by as the Patriots fans are now realizing.

[Showtime]

And if you include the Rangers, Giants, Yankees, & Mets it's like 9 in the past 20 years. :o

Not bad. I guess you thought I was trash talking. :whatever:

[Dark Donnie]

I assume your talking Yankees? I didn't say it was a stretch, but some might not also be Yankees fans and championships are not so easy to come by as the Patriots fans are now realizing.


Try waiting 20 years:o

[Fran]

Detroit has had four parades in 11 years.

1997 Stanley Cup Champion Red Wings
1998 Stanley Cup Champion Red Wings
2002 Stanley Cup Champion Red Wings
2004 NBA Champion Pistons

[Dark Donnie]

Philadelphia has had ..........

[Erzengel]

Not bad. I guess you thought I was trash talking. :whatever:
I wasn't either. You just got me thinking. I use to live in NYC, and you made me remember fond memories of the 86-87 with the Mets and Giants as well as everything since then.

[Showtime]

Try waiting 20 years:o

Alot of the younger crowd around here thinks that this is going to happen every year. They get spoiled by it all.

Detroit has had four parades in 11 years.

1997 Stanley Cup Champion Red Wings
1998 Stanley Cup Champion Red Wings
2002 Stanley Cup Champion Red Wings
2004 NBA Champion Pistons

Could have two or three more this year.

[Fran]

If there are three parades this year for the Wings, Pistons and Tigers, I will call Detroit the best sports city in the world.

[Showtime]

I wasn't either. You just got me thinking. I use to live in NYC, and you made me remember fond memories of the 86-87 with the Mets and Giants as well as everything since then.

My bad Erz.

That World Series still leaves a bad taste in my mouth. The connection with the Giants being Bill Belichick has two rings with them. :wow:

[Showtime]

If there are three parades this year for the Wings, Pistons and Tigers, I will call Detroit the best sports city in the world.

Very very strong possiblity. I think Boston has a chance for two as well, a better chance with the Red Sox. The Patriots blew the chance for three.

[Erzengel]

Alot of the younger crowd around here thinks that this is going to happen every year. They get spoiled by it all.

All dynasties fall. It's inevitable. Cowboys, Yankees, Lakers, Red Wings.

Patriots, Spurs, one day.

It's fans get use to winning. And other fans resent them for it.

[Showtime]

All dynasties fall. It's inevitable. Cowboys, Yankees, Lakers, Red Wings.

Patriots, Spurs, one day.

It's fans get use to winning. And other fans resent them for it.

The Circle of Life.

[Fran]

The Wings will eventually fall... but not all the way down to the cellar, Blackhawks-style.

[Showtime]

The answer is in your signature.

[Mister J]

1. Miami (1-15)
The Pick: Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College
The buzz: The Dolphins need a tough, talented leader to get them back to the playoffs. Bill Parcells will not hesitate to select a player like Ryan, who has proven skills and the intangibles necessary to play the game's most important position.

The hell? Nothing about this guy ever screamed 'franchise QB' to me. :huh:
Granted, Beck didn't set the football world on fire last season, but he was on his ass or running for his life most of the time. Were those three games really enough to discard him?

And why in the hornswoggle is Brian Brohm listed so high?

[Excel]

showtime here are some links to chad jackson catches last year. Nothing moss-esque, but hes got talent.

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801b0e47

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801ac054

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80161335
^thats a nice catch

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80161272

[Excel]

Btw that draft is horrible. Parcells is in love with old veteran QB's; I will be shocked if he doesnt trade the pick but if he does I dont see how he doesnt take Glenn Dorsey.

And Golston? Pats will either try and make Kenny Phillips a corner or draft reggie smith.

[Showtime]

Thanks man. They won't play for me though.

[Dark Donnie]

Report: Williams heading to Jacksonville

Jacksonville radio station 1010XL is reporting that Gregg Williams has been hired by the Jaguars as defensive coordinator.

The decision isn't expected to be announced for another day, but the Jags have found a quality (though likely pricey) replacement for MIke Smith, who is now in Atlanta. Williams was once thought to be the favorite for the head coaching job in Washington, but the Redskins decided to pursue other options. Feb. 5 - 2:53 pm et
Source: profootballtalk.com

[Excel]

Thanks man. They won't play for me though.

Ugh. Go to the left corner n click on the patriots link. Click on Chad Jackson and then change it from 2007 to 2006 and youll find em. They should work.

[LegendaryCaleb]

If Manningham went to Dallas....Itd be one heck of a Draft Pick...and would be certainly worth it (my bro is a michigan fan and a cowboy fan therefore hed be pretty excited)

[jaguarr]

Report: Williams heading to Jacksonville

Jacksonville radio station 1010XL is reporting that Gregg Williams has been hired by the Jaguars as defensive coordinator.

The decision isn't expected to be announced for another day, but the Jags have found a quality (though likely pricey) replacement for MIke Smith, who is now in Atlanta. Williams was once thought to be the favorite for the head coaching job in Washington, but the Redskins decided to pursue other options. Feb. 5 - 2:53 pm et
Source: profootballtalk.com

Jacksonville has been making some very smart choices, lately. They really seem to have a handle on what they need to do to take it up a notch. Could be very interesting to watch them next year.

jag