2008 NFL Thread

[Tigerking]

Should I start Aaron Rodgers (Detroit) or Drew Brees (Tampa)?

[Immortalfire]

Everyone go here http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=311606

..for fantasy league advice.

[Excel]

Rodgers

[Cmill216]

Should I start Aaron Rodgers (Detroit) or Drew Brees (Tampa)?

Brees isn't playing Tampa.

[Kaleb]

Brees is playing Washington.

[FaT_tONle]

No more fantasy here guys... take it to the appropriate thread...

Lemme get my picks in here... I went 2-2 last week. I switched my pick on the Bills because I needed an upset pick, so I got burned there. Maybe I'll do better this week.

Minnesota 34 Indy 17... I don't like the Colts offense in this spot. Defense won't contain Peterson either.

New York Jets 20 New England 17... Pats need this more than the Jets, but this is just too tough a spot for Cassel.

Dallas 34 Eagles 31... A wild, wild old western Monday night shootout.

Upset: Detroit 31 Green Bay 24... Aaron Rogers lays an egg on the road.

[FaT_tONle]

I heard on my local radio that the Texans Ravens game won't be played Monday Night... When on Earth are they gonna get that game in? It's unlikely but what if that game has tie breaker implications? I would hate to see it cancelled. I'd try to get it in by Wednesday.

Report: Ike postpones Texans-Ravens game
Damage to Reliant Stadium too severe for rescheduled game to be played
NBCSports.com news services
updated 1:59 p.m. ET, Sat., Sept. 13, 2008
Hurricane Ike caused damage to Reliant Stadium, causing the Houston Texans to postpone their home opener scheduled for Monday night against the Baltimore Ravens, the Houston Chronicle reported.

The storm tore chunks off the stadium’s retractable roof and the damage can’t be fixed in time to host the game, said Shea Guinn, the president and general manager of Reliant Park.

"The facility will not be usable," Guinn said. "There's some structural damage to the roof. Part of it is off.

"There's also some other damage on the property caused by wind and water. We're in the process of assessing the damage. As far as the game being postponed again or played, that will be up to the NFL."

An official announcement was expected later Saturday, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said.

“It certainly appears that the stadium is not going to be able to be used on Monday night,” Aiello said.

The game, originally scheduled for Sunday, was moved to Monday earlier in the week as Ike approached the area.

The field is not scheduled to host another game until Oct. 5. If the game is postponed, it is unclear when it could be made up. The Texans’ off week is Oct. 26, while Baltimore’s is Nov. 6.
Three years ago, when the New Orleans Saints were displaced because of Hurricane Katrina, they played four of their scheduled home games at LSU’s Tiger Stadium, three in San Antonio and one in East Rutherford, N.J., against the New York Giants.


Actually, there is quite an easy solution.... Houston has a bye week 8. Baltimore has a bye week 10. Houston plays Cincinnati week 10. They can move that game to week 8 since the Bengals also have a bye on week 8. And then they can play the Houston Baltimore game week 10... expect this to happen.

[Kaleb]

I heard on my local radio that the Texans Ravens game won't be played Monday Night... When on Earth are they gonna get that game in? It's unlikely but what if that game has tie breaker implications? I would hate to see it cancelled. I'd try to get it in by Wednesday.

Actually, there is quite an easy solution.... Houston has a bye week 8. Baltimore has a bye week 10. Houtson plays Cincinnati week 10. They can move that game to week 8 since the Bengals also have a bye on week 8. And then they can play the Houston Baltimore game week 10... expect this to happen.


Im sorry but Goddell really dropped the ball this time, he knew that there was no ways that reliant stadium was going to handle the storm , he could have easily in the begining said that they should move it to a nuteral ground or do exactly what the Saints did and made them play their home game at the opositions field ( saints played their home game agaisnt the giants at giants stadium )

[FaT_tONle]

You move it onto a college field if the stadium is not ready... that's not a problem. They didn't have time to make the proper accomodations. The game can be easily re-scheduled as stated above... the only downside is that both teams have their byes week 2. Tough luck.

[StorminNorman]

Im sorry but Goddell really dropped the ball this time, he knew that there was no ways that reliant stadium was going to handle the storm , he could have easily in the begining said that they should move it to a nuteral ground or do exactly what the Saints did and made them play their home game at the opositions field ( saints played their home game agaisnt the giants at giants stadium )

I believe that the Texans would have to sign off on that though - its it is very possible that Houston wouldn't want to sign away a home game.

[Addendum]

It's not like they can play the game in Houston any time soon. After Ike gets out of Houston, getting a football stadium back to game ready status isn't high on the list of priorities after getting hit with a hurricane

[FaT_tONle]

Houston can't object to moving it into a neutral field though. They will have to play in San Antonio or something. They can play at the Cotton Bowl. There are plenty of venues down there.

[vindrow]

They will probably play at a neutral site there in Texas someplace..I don't see them playing the game in week 10 since the Ravens would then lose their bye week, and they're not going to agree to that.



Goodell should have had a plan in place for this, his run a commissioner has not been very stellar the past couple of years.

[FaT_tONle]

9/11 they took out the week before the Superbowl an extended the season to 18 weeks. But that included all 32 teams. If the teams don't want to lose that bye then there is no other solution. If they don't end up making it up this week you can't play three games in the same week (Sun Thurs Sun) down the road. That's murder. Expect the game to be cancelled or both teams take a tie... because I think Godell is banking on neither of these teams in the mix for the playoffs. But if the Texans go 9-6-1, they can't get in over a 9-7 football team. THe game HAS to be made up.

[Dark Donnie]

Making up the game will not be a problem.

[Kaleb]

they should just take the Texans best Madden player and Baltimores Best Madden Player ( which is Mark Clayton , he went into the finalsof the nfl madden players challenge ) and then play a madden game between the two teams.


problem solved :o

[FaT_tONle]

Making up the game will not be a problem.

If the Ravens don't want to give up their bye though?

Here is my final last resort solution as crazy as this is. If Balt/Hou has playoff implications... put it in the Saturday or Sunday slot on Wild Card weekend. Play the NFC games as scheduled. And push back the AFC playoffs by one week. Crazy thinking and it's highly unlikely that both these teams will be in the playoff mix... but that's another solution.

[The Game]

they should just take the Texans best Madden player and Baltimores Best Madden Player ( which is Mark Clayton , he went into the finalsof the nfl madden players challenge ) and then play a madden game between the two teams.


problem solved :o

I could beat both of them :grin:

[Dr. Evil]

I am interested in seeing how the Texans vs. Ravens are going to be made up.

[Addendum]

I am interested in seeing how the Texans vs. Ravens are going to be made up.

Essay test?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bf/Bluebook.jpg

[BlackLantern]

Houston Vs. Baltimore will be decided by an academic decathelon.....Who wants to see Mario Williams give a speech about the industrial revolution?? This guy does

[Dr. Evil]

Houston Vs. Baltimore will be decided by an academic decathelon.....Who wants to see Mario Williams give a speech about the industrial revolution?? This guy does

I'd rather see Ray Lewis or Ed Reed recite Shakespeare.

[Dark Donnie]

If the Ravens don't want to give up their bye though?

Here is my final last resort solution as crazy as this is. If Balt/Hou has playoff implications... put it in the Saturday or Sunday slot on Wild Card weekend. Play the NFC games as scheduled. And push back the AFC playoffs by one week. Crazy thinking and it's highly unlikely that both these teams will be in the playoff mix... but that's another solution.
The Ravens new bye will be this week....they really don't have much of a choice.

Just read their discussing playing the game in New Orleans on Monday Night.

[FaT_tONle]

HOUSTON -- The Houston Texans' home game against the Baltimore Ravens, previously scheduled for Monday night, has been postponed until Nov. 9 because of hurricane-related damage to Reliant Stadium, according to ESPN's Chris Mortensen.

Hurricane Ike, which made landfall early Saturday at Galveston as a severe Category 2 storm, also caused extensive damage throughout Houston, including the retractable roof at Reliant Stadium.

The Nov. 9 game will be held during the Ravens' bye week. According to league sources, the Texans' home game against the Cincinnati Bengals, originally scheduled for Nov. 9, will be moved to Oct. 26, which was the bye week for both of those teams.



The storm tore chunks off the stadium's retractable roof and the damage can't be fixed in time to host the game, said Shea Guinn, president and general manager of Reliant Park.

"There is no way this stadium will host a game on Monday night," Guinn said Saturday. "There are parts of the roof that are completely gone."

The retractable roof on the $352 million venue rolls open in nine sections. Guinn said five of the sections were missing and large pieces of debris had fallen into the stadium.

"It's hard to tell what came from where," Guinn said.

The game, originally scheduled for Sunday, was moved to Monday earlier in the week as Ike approached the area.

The field is not scheduled to host another game until Oct. 5, but Guinn said he wasn't sure when repairs could be completed. He said the stadium also sustained some water damage at street level.

Reliant Stadium sits next to the Astrodome. Guinn said Saturday that he had not yet inspected the dome for storm damage. The Texans' air-supported practice "bubble" across the street was deflated on Thursday and was not damaged, Guinn said.

Harris County Judge Ed Emmett, the supervisor of the county's hurricane cleanup efforts, planned to visit Reliant Stadium and survey the damage later Saturday.


Just as predicted. Not that it was rocket science.

[BlackLantern]

ESPN is reporting that Al Davis is ready to fire Lane Kiffin before seasons end and as early as Monday...

[chesslover]

Go Packers!

[Excel]

Gotta love how the nfl today is always shocked when mike ditka beats em in fantasy

[Raiden]

ESPN is reporting that Al Davis is ready to fire Lane Kiffin before seasons end and as early as Monday...

Not surprising. I wonder if any HC will be willing to take over this dysfunctional team and work under Al Davis.

[Excel]

Al Davis is an idior.

"Why isnt Darren getting the ball every play?"-15 minutes, 2 3and outs later-"Hey,why isnt JaMarcus ever passing?"

[Dark Donnie]

:dry:
Vince Young-QB- Titans Sep. 14 - 10:32 am et


NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that Vince Young asked out of the Titans' playoff loss last season.
Schefter says Young didn't want to play in the second half and had to be pushed by the coaching staff to come out of the tunnel. The Titans lost 17-6.

[Showtime]

Apparently he goes to the same school as Manny Ramirez.

[Hunter Rider]

Good drive from Rogers, 7-0 Packers.

[chesslover]

Brett who?

[Dark Donnie]

Peyton needs to start looking Reggie Wayne's way :cmad:

[Excel]

Indy looks like absolute crap. They cant stop the run at all, and they got lucky whoeverthatwas dropped a (damn nice) Tarvaris Jackson pass for a touchdown.

[Hunter Rider]

Green Bay are destroying Detroit.

[Addendum]

Bears are just beating up the Panthers. It's only 10-0, but Carolina is doing nothing

[Bond]

This season is so ****ing weird.

[NewYorkSpider]

Bears are just beating up the Panthers. It's only 10-0, but Carolina is doing nothing

Panthers are pathetic at home. At least we got down there to get a FG.

[Badger]

Brett who?

Haha, as much as I love Brett. I agree. I guess the Packers brass knew what they're doing.

[The Game]

Colts.....................:hehe:

[Immortalfire]

Colts/Vikings game is boring as hell

[jaguarr]

ESPN is reporting that Al Davis is ready to fire Lane Kiffin before seasons end and as early as Monday...

Good luck replacing him, Al. No one wants to coach for you because you won't let them do their damn job!!!

jag

[jaguarr]

Colts/Vikings game is boring as hell

Makes you wonder what Cellslim would be saying about the Colts this year, since he was so damned obnoxious about them last year. If he weren't banned for life. :hehe:

jag

[Immortalfire]

You get one, maybe two seasons to win a Super Bowl with Al Davis...if not, you're gone.

[Immortalfire]

Makes you wonder what Cellslim would be saying about the Colts this year, since he was so damned obnoxious about them last year. If he weren't banned for life. :hehe:

jag

Hey well, we still have SurfDUI...talking about YOUR Indianapolis Colts

[jaguarr]

You get one, maybe two seasons to win a Super Bowl with Al Davis...if not, you're gone.

Yep. And Davis has said that he won't retire or let go of the team until he wins another Super Bowl. Yet he won't give any coach a chance to run the team the way they like or even recruit, and gives them absolutely zero time to build the team up so they could be a contender. Programs take time to come together; something Al Davis doesn't have since he's so damn old.

Hey well, we still have SurfDUI...talking about YOUR Indianapolis Colts

Yeah, well MY Indianapolis Colts suck balls this year. :hehe:

jag

[Addendum]

Damn! What a hit on Delhomme!

[Excel]

Well, surf can take comfort in knowing that atleast Anthony Gonzalez showed up to play. But Peyton doesnt look like hell make it through this game, he is getting hit.

Is Delhomme ight?

Btw RUN DMC 14 carries, 110 yards, TD; plus Chris Johnson with a big 51 yarder too :up: :up:

[Addendum]

Unfortunately, he is.

More important, Devin Hester is out :csad:

[Kaleb]

It must be impossible to play behind the colts o line without their starting tackle and starting center.

[Bond]

Someone should make a .gif of the invisible tackle on Steven Jackson.

[Excel]

Rrrrrrrrrreggie Bush!

[chesslover]

Green Bay are destroying Detroit.

You were saying :csad:

[Hunter Rider]

TD Colts and Detroit are coming back at the Packers. :wow:

[Excel]

TD Colts

We got us a game!

Detroit are coming back at the Packers. :wow:

How embarassing would that be? :hehe:

[NewYorkSpider]

Panthers D needs to step up now. We can win this game.

[Hunter Rider]

How embarassing would that be? :hehe:

It just got worse, Calvin Johnson just smoked the defense for a TD, Detroit have a kick to take the lead.

[Addendum]

Damn Bears :csad:

[Excel]

It just got worse, Calvin Johnson just smoked the defense for a TD, Detroit have a kick to take the lead.

I got Johnson on one of my fantasy teams; 2nd straight 100 yard game! He truly is Moss-on-Vikings-esque ridiculous with his combo of speed, acceleration, hands, and ups. except with a better attitude :up:

Now lets see Rodgers lead em down for a win.

[Excel]

Campbell just threw a 67 yard td to santana moss and now new orleans is losing to washington :eek:

[NewYorkSpider]

Good. :yay:

[Hunter Rider]

Packers now back in the lead and have just got an interception.

[Immortalfire]

Indy and Minn are tied...

Giants are violently having their way with da Rams.

Oakland is winning?

[Excel]

Brees is picked!

[Hunter Rider]

19 yard TD from Brandon Jackson to most likely seal it for The Packers.

[Excel]

Indy and Minn are tied...


Oakland is winning?

Yup, 23-8. DMC got 164 n a td; Mike Bush got 90 n a td too.

[Addendum]

At least Memphis has excellent barbeque

[The Game]

Vikings have a good team, they seriously need a QB...................any QB

[Hunter Rider]

The Colts win it with 3 seconds two go.

Woodson picks Kinta again for a Packers TD to finish the Lions off.

[Dr. Evil]

The Vikings won't go deep into the playoffs if Tarvaris Jackson continues to suck.

Brad Childress won't replace him though.

[Excel]

Jackson looked fine. His tight end dropped a friggin td; and there were about 80 yards in pass interference that werent called.

[The Game]

Lions = COMEDY

[Excel]

Oaklands 3 headed rushing monster had 300 rushing yards :eek:

[The Game]

Time to step up Cassel.......Go Pats

[Hunter Rider]

Lions intercepted for another Packers TD. 49-25.

[NewYorkSpider]

Panthers beat the Bears 20-17.

Carolina played horrible in the first half again. They rebounded in the second scoring 17 points. Such a huge start to the season without your best player.

[Excel]

Kitna just got intercepted for a td....AGAIN....2ND TIME IN 1 MINUTE :LMAO:

[chesslover]

Packers win!

[The Game]

LOL @ Feely

[Dr. Evil]

Rumor:

Lane Kiffin will be fired tomorrow, regardless of the outcome.

[NewYorkSpider]

Rumor:

Lane Kiffin will be fired tomorrow, regardless of the outcome.

Dennis Green will be the coach next season. I heard that rumor somewhere.

[LegendaryCaleb]

gah...The Lions...got blown out...then came back..then threw it away...and the worst thing is that I couldnt even watch it...ahh

[Excel]

Cassel looks shapr; Moss totally missed his block which resulted in Maroney getting stuffed.

[The Game]

Kurt Warner is back!!!!

[Caped Crusader]

:woot:

Dont mess with Tuck.

[The Game]

Faulk.....damn

[Mister J]

Kurt Warner: 5/5, 162 yds, 2TDs

I'm astounded that our secondary can be that asstastic? :dry:

[Raiden]

Good thing I picked Card D in my starting team this week. :up:

[Excel]

Faulk.....damn

Wordddd. Our run blocking is crap, but it should open up a play action bomb later on.

[Immortalfire]

Falcons are looking more like the team I'm used to, unfortunately :whatever:

[The Game]

I really hope Denver destroy SD

[The Game]

Patriots goal line stand 101

[Excel]

God our run blocking is sucking

[The Game]

God our run blocking is sucking

I know, it is actually breaking my heart :csad:

[Mister J]

The Broncos offense is moving through San Diego's defense like ball park nachos through your digestive system.

[The Game]

The Broncos offense is moving through San Diego's defense like ball park nachos through your digestive system.

Don't know why most 'experts' thought SD would be too much for them :huh:

[Belvedere]

Greg Olsen, hang your head in shame.

[Caped Crusader]

Earth. Wind & Fire !!

[The Game]

Now cassel is limping...........awesome.............why us?

[BlackLantern]

It's because God hates cheaters

[Immortalfire]

The Broncos offense is moving through San Diego's defense like ball park nachos through your digestive system.

:lmao: That was so poetic

[Immortalfire]

It's because God hates cheaters

A false balance is an abomination to the Lord, But a just weight is His delight. - Proverbs 11:1

Putting it a bit more simply; "God abhors cheating, but delights in the honest man."

[The Guardian]

DUDE, I'M ABOUT A FIVE YARD PENALTY AWAY FROM BEING DONE WITH MIAMI!!!:( I'M SICK OF WAISTING 3 HOURS OF MY LIFE EVERY SUNDAY TO WATCH THESE GUYS PLAY LIKE A BUNCH OF PANSIES!!!:mad::mad::mad:

[BlackLantern]

DUDE, I'M ABOUT A FIVE YARD PENALTY AWAY FROM BEING DONE WITH MIAMI!!!:( I'M SICK OF WAISTING 3 HOURS OF MY LIFE EVERY SUNDAY TO WATCH THESE GUYS PLAY LIKE A BUNCH OF PANSIES!!!:mad::mad::mad:

Tell us how you really feel....don't hold back

[Caped Crusader]

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b322/vinrich/earthwindfire.jpg

[Excel]

And now Maroneys hurt his shoulder? Whatttttt!

[The Guardian]

Tell us how you really feel....don't hold back

LOL, I WAS HOLDING BACK LOL!!!:oldrazz::oldrazz::oldrazz::D:D:D

[Bunker]

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b322/vinrich/earthwindfire.jpg

The hell?

[Excel]

Matt Ryan...ouch.

[The Game]

Finally INT Farve is back

[Excel]

Bware!! And now Kfaulk!!! TOUCHDOWN!!!

[The Guardian]

AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH, MIAMI'S GONNA MAKE ME HAVE A CORONARY!!!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

[The Game]

At last a TD, YES

[Caped Crusader]

The hell?

" From now on we're gonna be called Earth Wind & Fire, I'm Earth, Ward is Wind & Bradshaw is Fire"

- Brandon Jacobs

:cwink:

[Excel]

I cant believe Meriweather didnt drop it!

[Bunker]

" From now on we're gonna be called Earth Wind & Fire, I'm Earth, Ward is Wind & Bradshaw is Fire"

- Brandon Jacobs

:cwink:

That's nice.

[The Game]

" From now on we're gonna be called Earth Wind & Fire, I'm Earth, Ward is Wind & Bradshaw is Fire"

- Brandon Jacobs

:cwink:

Hmph Jacbos is talking like he is a champion............oh wait :csad:

[Caped Crusader]

That's nice.

very. :woot:

[Kaleb]

oh man , Adrian Peterson made the Colts D look silly today.

[Showtime]

Colts had the last laugh.

[Showtime]

Colts had the last laugh.

[The Game]

Jordan is doing what Maroney should be doing

Miami Lolphins.

31-3 down in Arizona.

Oh dear.

[Immortalfire]

Seahawks and Niners are tied...

[Excel]

Jordan is doing what Maroney should be doing

Not do much; the Jets were playing the pass whenever Jordan was in and he had a lot fo running room; maroney and morris on the other hand had 0; the Jets have a very good Defensive line;' Jenkins just too Dam Koppens manhood. And Adlius Thomas just completely ownwed Leon Washington AND Brett Favre at the same time! 20 yard sack! Keep scrambling, Brett :lmao:

Wes converts on fourth; Pats get the win.

Btw....Cassel threw a hideous ball with Randy wide open deep....but w/e.

[BlackLantern]

The Giants throw st. louis a beating and jay cutler is giving me massive fantasy points....its a good day

[The Guardian]

Jordan is doing what Maroney should be doing

Miami Dolphins.

31-3 down in Arizona.

Oh dear.

FIXED!!!:rolleyes:

[The Game]

Wait is this, Lord Favre did not destroy us lowly Patriots..............LOL

[FaT_tONle]

Wow... that Earth, Wind, Fire has got to be the saddest analogy I have ever heard in a while. Giant fans getting excited over wins at home against the Skins and Rams are obviously suffering of boredem... and they got the Bengals next week... can't wait till their back end of the schedule starts.

[The Game]

Not do much; the Jets were playing the pass whenever Jordan was in and he had a lot fo running room; maroney and morris on the other hand had 0; the Jets have a very good Defensive line;' Jenkins just too Dam Koppens manhood. And Adlius Thomas just completely ownwed Leon Washington AND Brett Favre at the same time! 20 yard sack! Keep scrambling, Brett :lmao:

Wes converts on fourth; Pats get the win.

Btw....Cassel threw a hideous ball with Randy wide open deep....but w/e.

Hmm, i'm still waiting for Maroney to open it up, but yeah our line needs to help him out, we have that so called team next week, surely Cassel can get some passing TD's.

[Caped Crusader]

Jets suck

[Immortalfire]

Matt Ryan has been sacked 4 times..:rolleyes:

[Excel]

Darren Sproles is money I been telling yall

Hmm, i'm still waiting for Maroney to open it up, but yeah our line needs to help him out, we have that so called team next week, surely Cassel can get some passing TD's.

Runnings backs only as good as their olines, Maroney and Morris both had horrendous blocking today; for some reason Jordans former team gave him no respect and have 5 guys back in coverage, hence why he had so many lanes.

That and Jets just have a good run defense. Next week against mami he should do better, he did have 156 on just 14 against em last season.

[The Game]

Broncos......................hahahahahahahaha, seriously this has been a strange week for comebacks

[Bunker]

Go Chagahs go!

[FaT_tONle]

San Diego is thriving under that Norv Turner system. They may have the most dangerous passing attack in the AFC right now. Their defense has been stinking it up as of late though... I guess you can pin that on Cotrell.

[Immortalfire]

Geesh, Tampa has an excellent D :eek:

Ours is pretty good. Not great, but ok. Ah well, live and learn....I hope.

[Excel]

Marshall has 18 catches...

[NewYorkSpider]

I guess I was wrong about Arizona. They still have a tough second half of football on their schedule though.

[Hunter Rider]

Nice win for the Pats. :up:

[Mister J]

Darren Sproles has been a machine today; almost if he's playing at a different speed.

[Dark Donnie]

Arizona Defense is sick...started them again today.

18 Catches for Marshall :eek:

[FaT_tONle]

I guess I was wrong about Arizona. They still have a tough second half of football on their schedule though.

They play both Eastern divisions so that's probably 3-5 at best. I think the winner of that division will end up being the 4th seed. I am, however, liking the Panthers to run away with the South. Saints look like the same old.

[The Game]

Cutler oh dear

[Excel]

Darren Sproles has been a machine today; almost if he's playing at a different speed.

I said it before, screw Mike Turner; Sproles is the real backup to LT threat. Noel Devine is a clone of him.

[Hunter Rider]

Denver steal it!

[Excel]

Eddie Royal oh bih!

[The Game]

I dislike the Bolts but they have been gyped big time here

[NewYorkSpider]

They play both Eastern divisions so that's probably 3-5 at best. I think the winner of that division will end up being the 4th seed. I am, however, liking the Panthers to run away with the South. Saints look like the same old.

Panther have an easy schedule, but they have to start playing better at home. I think they won 2 games at home last season.

[Duende Verde]

Denver steal it!

You got that right.

That was a Cutler fumble.:cmad:

[Bunker]

Expletive!

[FaT_tONle]

Can someone tell me how the Broncos last series went down when they had 1st and goal at the 2? I am following it on game channel. Someone give me the play by play because I am confused.

[BlackLantern]

61 Fantasy points from Cutler for me today

[Mister J]

This is a pretty damn good game in Denver.

edit: Zoinks! Shanahan is going for 2 and the win. :eek:

edit2: They got it! :wow:

[Dark Donnie]

Can someone tell me how the Broncos last series went down when they had 1st and goal at the 2? I am following it on game channel. Someone give me the play by play because I am confused.

1-2-SD 2 (1:24) 28-M.Pittman up the middle to SD 1 for 1 yard (76-J.Williams, 59-B.Siler).
Timeout #3 by SD at 01:17.
2-1-SD 1 (1:17) 6-J.Cutler pass incomplete short right to 28-M.Pittman. The Replay Assistant challenged the fumble ruling, and the play was REVERSED. 6-J.Cutler sacked at SD 10 for -9 yards. FUMBLES, declared dead at SD 10.
3-10-SD 10 (1:14) (Shotgun) 35-S.Young up the middle to SD 4 for 6 yards (93-L.Castillo).
Timeout #2 by DEN at 00:29.
4-4-SD 4 (:29) (Shotgun) 6-J.Cutler pass short middle to 19-E.Royal for 4 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

...

Jay Cutler is a beast....Won me my game.

[Bunker]

I can't remember the last time the Browns played a primetime game on national tv.

[Dark Donnie]

I can't remember the last time the Browns played a primetime game on national tv.

Against Pitts last year I believe.

[vindrow]

The Chargers should start Sproles every week and have L.T. be his back-up...seems L.T. can't play with a wittle hurt toe.

[jaguarr]

Damn! The SF/Seattle and Denver/SD games were nailbiters today. Great football games! And my Raiders actually f***ing won?! WTF?!

jag

[FaT_tONle]

The Chargers should start Sproles every week and have L.T. be his back-up...seems L.T. can't play with a wittle hurt toe.

Maybe LT is becmong another Shaun Alexander... :wow:... it's way to soon but I mean damn... it's amazing how quickly some of these RB's fall off the map. Watch Adrian Peterson be a backup to someone in like three years.

[redfirebird2008]

Sproles is amazing. Always has been in fact. People always say he's too small but I say that's a load of BS. The man can bench 400+ pounds and is built like a tank. He delivered a huge block for Cutler earlier today on one of his TD passes. He's too explosive of a player for people to write him off due to his height. Someone is going to sign him and let him be a starter, and San Diego's going to regret it.

Meanwhile, the Chargers got screwed BIG TIME by Ed Hochuli. That was one of the worst calls in NFL history.

[DeaDheaD]

Greg Olsen needs to be kicked in the baby-maker several times..

[Showtime]

Not do much; the Jets were playing the pass whenever Jordan was in and he had a lot fo running room; maroney and morris on the other hand had 0; the Jets have a very good Defensive line;' Jenkins just too Dam Koppens manhood.

Maroney was out for about 3 quarters again because he was injured, hence why he can never be "unleashed" he's like Glass Joe.

And Adlius Thomas just completely ownwed Leon Washington AND Brett Favre at the same time! 20 yard sack! Keep scrambling, Brett

That is what Thomas should have been doing last year, glad he is showing some of that now.

Btw....Cassel threw a hideous ball with Randy wide open deep....but w/e.

That was horribly under thrown, he needed to go up top with that. A win is a win.

Hmm, i'm still waiting for Maroney to open it up, but yeah our line needs to help him out, we have that so called team next week, surely Cassel can get some passing TD's.


Runnings backs only as good as their olines, Maroney and Morris both had horrendous blocking today; for some reason Jordans former team gave him no respect and have 5 guys back in coverage, hence why he had so many lanes. That and Jets just have a good run defense. Next week against mami he should do better, he did have 156 on just 14 against em last season.

It isn't the line, it's Maroney and his injury bugs. The guy can't stay on the damn field.

61 Fantasy points from Cutler for me today

That is just sick man.

[POWdER-man]

A good game tomorrow with my Eagles....:up:

[Excel]

The level Cutler is playing at is extremely impressive, both throws to Royal were threading the needal.

Maroney was out for about 3 quarters again because he was injured, hence why he can never be "unleashed" he's like Glass Joe.

I know. He can still be "unleashed", I just dont kow if he ever will. The caoches dont give him enough carries; Maroney is such a "in-the-zone" running back that to find success he HAS to get the ball.

That is what Thomas should have been doing last year, glad he is showing some of that now.

Last they he played outside linebacker unless to Colvin went down. Now Mayo (whose looking GREAT) is in the role he had last year and Thomas is playing outside more.

That was horribly under thrown, he needed to go up top with that. A win is a win.

Cassel was far from perfect; his idiotic use of timeouts was frusterating. That pass however was inescusable; it was play action with Moss on a post and Cassel looked short first. Moss had 10 yards on his man, Cassel shoulda fired a hard liner and lead him right into the endzone immeadietly, instead he looks short and then throws a lollipop that makes moss stop hard.

It isn't the line, it's Maroney and his injury bugs. The guy can't stay on the damn field.

When you have Morris and Jordan, and its week 2, of course theyll go on the suide of caution. Maroney had surgery on that shoulder 16 months ago, they cant afford to lose him long term.

[Cmill216]

Bucs 24
Falcons 9

Buc Ball at its best. Ugly, sloppy, dirty southern football. The Tampa defense tee'd off on the rookie quarterback, while the offense took care of business on the ground.

Should be a tough in Chicago next week.

[Immortalfire]

I see Ben Rotwhateverburger continues to employ his douche look, with the backwards cap.

[Excel]

unnoticed by all was the spectacular CALVIN JOHNSON. Young Moss clone.

[Showtime]

I know. He can still be "unleashed", I just dont kow if he ever will. The caoches dont give him enough carries; Maroney is such a "in-the-zone" running back that to find success he HAS to get the ball. When you have Morris and Jordan, and its week 2, of course theyll go on the suide of caution. Maroney had surgery on that shoulder 16 months ago, they cant afford to lose him long term

I just think that is always going to be the situation for Maroney, at least with the Pats. He is just to injury prone, so they'll be protecting him from injuries or giving him rest to recoup from them.

Last they he played outside linebacker unless to Colvin went down. Now Mayo (whose looking GREAT) is in the role he had last year and Thomas is playing outside more.

The defense still has that tendency to let up a big play or two, but has looked pretty solid so far.


Cassel was far from perfect; his idiotic use of timeouts was frusterating. That pass however was inescusable; it was play action with Moss on a post and Cassel looked short first. Moss had 10 yards on his man, Cassel shoulda fired a hard liner and lead him right into the endzone immeadietly, instead he looks short and then throws a lollipop that makes moss stop hard.


Cassel isn't Brady, that is for sure. Maybe a little more like 2001 Brady, but this team looks like they are now running the 2001 offense, so maybe it will work. 2 games are way to early to judge it either way. This offense has a long way to go, a lot of confusion between Cassel and the receivers and Cassel and the running backs.

[Excel]

Ill just say that if the big mistakes he makes are misfires on deep throws to Moss, we should be happy. Those will all come in time. I am just glad he didnt go out throwing pics left and right (not trying to jinx...)

[Bond]

...

Jay Cutler is a beast....Won me my game.
Me too. :up:

[bgates87]

Wow the Chargers got ripped off there at the end of that game. Still, I like coach Shannahan's decision to go for two, it was a classy move. If they took the extra point and tied then they would have benefited directly from the bad call, but by going for two he effectively made the entire rest of the game irrelevant (which included some other suspicious calls and defunct replay equipment), pinning the outcome of the game on one single play and giving the chargers a chance to win in regulation. Coaches should always go for two in this situation in my opinion, I think if you can end the game without going into overtime you should, I think that's the spirit of the game. Then again I'm not a head coach.

[Excel]

Rodgers just belly flopped on Roethlisberger :lmao:

[Poeman]

favre had a favre kind of day

[vindrow]

Rodgers just belly flopped on Roethlisberger :lmao:


And Lord Bwady is out for the season:lmao:

[Excel]

And Lord Bwady is out for the season:lmao:

We dont need him :o

[vindrow]

We dont need him :o



Oh...yes you will.

[Excel]

Edited for content and making Patriots fans look bad.

[StorminNorman]

...

:dry:

[Excel]

Bottom line, dont underestimate the hoodie. :up:

[Cmill216]

...

:dry:

Seconded.

...Wait, StorminNorman?! :eek:

[Mee]

The Pats can get to the playoffs without Brady, sure. Easy schedule, crappy division. (though the Bills look pretty good) But no way can they make the AFC championship or Super Bowl. They'll be 11-5 at best.

[Excel]

If our dline continues to play at the level it has, and o undoubtedly improves, we could go a long way...losing a few in the reg. season is better for them mentally anyway.

[jaguarr]

So, Excel is the new Cellslim with all the gratuitous picture posting and such, then?

jag

[Showtime]

The Pats can get to the playoffs without Brady, sure. Easy schedule, crappy division. (though the Bills look pretty good) But no way can they make the AFC championship or Super Bowl. They'll be 11-5 at best.

I see them at around 10-6 and winning the division, beyond that...yikes.

If our dline continues to play at the level it has, and o undoubtedly improves, we could go a long way...losing a few in the reg. season is better for them mentally anyway.

Super Bowl would be more of a miracle then 2001.

[Excel]

Super Bowl would be more of a miracle then 2001.

How? I am NOT saying we will win the super bowl, bout our team is infinetly times better than that 2001 team. 2001 Brady does not **** on 2008 Cassel. These are Bradys numbers:

86.5 QB rating
63.9 completion %
189.5 yards/game
18 TD, 12 INT

Not just that, but the Pats are better now at just about every position then their 2001 counterparts.

Randy Moss > Troy Brown
Laurence Maroney >Antowain Smith
Sammy Morris > J.R. Redmond
Wes Welker > David Patten
Benjamin Watson > Jermaine Wiggins
David Thomas > Rod Rutledge
Matt Light 2008 > Matt Light 2001
Logan Mankins > Mike Compton
Dan Koppen > Damien Woody

Ty Warren > Bobby Hamilton
Vince Wilfork > Anthony Pleasant
Richard Seymour 2008 > Richard Seymour 2001
Jarvis Green > Brandon Mitchell
Adalius Thomas > Willie McGinest
Jerod Mayo > Roman Phifer
Ellis Hobbs > Otis Smith
Brandon Meriweather > Tebucky Jones

[Dark Donnie]

Losing Brady and having Cassell step in is a huge downgrade obviously. I mean this was his first start since High School. If he was able to lead this team to the Superbowl that would be amazing.

[Excel]

Losing Brady and having Cassell step in is a huge downgrade obviously. I mean this was his first start since High School. If he was able to lead this team to the Superbowl that would be amazing.

Well it depends (though yes, hes is obviously a huge downgrade, and it showed on that long pass to Moss that shoulda been a TD as Moss had the guy BURNED but Cassel underthrew it and threw it way too late.) If they try to play the same style they played last season, they will not be good. But, if they try to play classic Belichick football, which is control the clock, the tempo, and the game while trying to expose the opposing offenses biggest weakness, they have a shot to really compete. Itll take a few weeks, but hopefuly this season they can peak in December and January instead of peaking in September like last year.

Our d was outstanding. Adalius Thomas, Richard Seymour, Jerod Mayo, and even ELLIS HOBBS :wow: are playing like pro bowlers. That goalline stand was awesome. Brandon "Bware" of the "hit stick" Meriweather had a pick that was a gorgeous read on a one of Favres pass. Thomas's sack was against a scramling Favre AND Leon Washington; he just overpowered em both and made Brett wish he stayed retired. Our only weakness today was our run blocking was atrocious, but against arguably the games best defensive tackle in Kris Jenkins, that shouldnt be a surprise.

[Silver Knight]

LT sucks!

[Caped Crusader]

LT sucks!

There is only ONE LT.

http://images.byrnerobotics.com/forum/uploads/ChrisHutton/2008-01-18_202231_TaylorLawrence21.jpg

[Raiden]

Man, Jets really suck today, and I had high hopes for them this year. If they can't even beat a Brady-less Pats team, how were they supposed to have a chance if Brady didn't go down for the season? And Jets now is powered by Favre, instead of Pennington or Clemens, which would've made the score even more lopsided.

Now I'm beginning to think that if Jets can't even make the playoff this year, then Mangini should be fired, no questions asked; he has 3 years to make this a respective team, and this year should be make-or-break for him.

[NewYorkSpider]

Well it depends (though yes, hes is obviously a huge downgrade, and it showed on that long pass to Moss that shoulda been a TD as Moss had the guy BURNED but Cassel underthrew it and threw it way too late.) If they try to play the same style they played last season, they will not be good. But, if they try to play classic Belichick football, which is control the clock, the tempo, and the game while trying to expose the opposing offenses biggest weakness, they have a shot to really compete. Itll take a few weeks, but hopefuly this season they can peak in December and January instead of peaking in September like last year.

Our d was outstanding. Adalius Thomas, Richard Seymour, Jerod Mayo, and even ELLIS HOBBS :wow: are playing like pro bowlers. That goalline stand was awesome. Brandon "Bware" of the "hit stick" Meriweather had a pick that was a gorgeous read on a one of Favres pass. Thomas's sack was against a scramling Favre AND Leon Washington; he just overpowered em both and made Brett wish he stayed retired. Our only weakness today was our run blocking was atrocious, but against arguably the games best defensive tackle in Kris Jenkins, that shouldnt be a surprise.

The Panthers use the method " control the clock". Look at all of their games over the years. Most of them are very close. The two games they've played this season came down to the final minutes. If the Pats use this method then they're going to lose games and undoubtedly will be vulnerable. The Patriots will be competitive down the stretch (with an easy ass schedule), but as soon as they get in the playoffs, everybody will be testing Cassel's ability to move around in pressure situations.(in which that will probably cause him to throw a crucial INT) Cassel is stepping into BIG shoes. Untill he can win an important game, the Patriots won't go far in the postseason.

[Ace of Knaves]

What happened to Michael Turner this week!?!!? I know 220 yards against a poor Lions D-line shouldn't get hopes up too much, but i mean.........what happened!!!! Matt Ryan was brought down to earth with a bump aswell, but thats to be expected, i still think he will be a great QB. GOOO FALCONS!!!!!!!
Keep ya head up Mike!!

[Kaleb]

What happened to Michael Turner this week!?!!? I know 220 yards against a poor Lions D-line shouldn't get hopes up too much, but i mean.........what happened!!!! Matt Ryan was brought down to earth with a bump aswell, but thats to be expected, i still think he will be a great QB. GOOO FALCONS!!!!!!!
Keep ya head up Mike!!

Monte Kiffen is what happened :o

[Excel]

Monte Kiffen is what happened :o

:up: :up:

[The Game]

I see Ben Rotwhateverburger continues to employ his douche look, with the backwards cap.

How many fat people do you know that look cool with backwards caps on?

[Kaleb]

He is supposed to look cool, not douchey :o

[ih8nyy]

There is only ONE LT.


http://images.byrnerobotics.com/forum/uploads/ChrisHutton/2008-01-18_202231_TaylorLawrence21.jpg

Unless Tomlinson develops a tremendous crack cocaine addiction. Then we can all call him LT.

[ih8nyy]

Wow the Chargers got ripped off there at the end of that game. Still, I like coach Shannahan's decision to go for two, it was a classy move. If they took the extra point and tied then they would have benefited directly from the bad call, but by going for two he effectively made the entire rest of the game irrelevant (which included some other suspicious calls and defunct replay equipment), pinning the outcome of the game on one single play and giving the chargers a chance to win in regulation. Coaches should always go for two in this situation in my opinion, I think if you can end the game without going into overtime you should, I think that's the spirit of the game. Then again I'm not a head coach.

It took balls to go for 2, but at the same time they shouldn't have been in that position to begin with. Should have been a fumble and the bolts ball. He was playing with house money and he knew it, so why not go for the win?

[The Game]

It took balls to go for 2, but at the same time they shouldn't have been in that position to begin with. Should have been a fumble and the bolts ball. He was playing with house money and he knew it, so why not go for the win?

I can't believe that the Chargers are unable to stop a pass to the middle of the endzone and the fact they got beat with the same play twice

[Ace of Knaves]

The Chargers secondary isn't up to much anyway, especially when Cromartie is out. Oops my mistake he wern't out, but he is recovering from a injury isn't he?

[Kaleb]

The Chargers secondary isn't up to much anyway, especially when Cromartie is out. Oops my mistake he wern't out, but he is recovering from a injury isn't he?
yes he was recovering, and was limited.

[Ace of Knaves]

yes he was recovering, and was limited.


Yea i thought so. And that Eddie Royal, what a player!!! I predict very very big things for this kid.

[kane9321]

go 49ers...great win..great win

go pats go

[Kaleb]

Yea i thought so. And that Eddie Royal, what a player!!! I predict very very big things for this kid.



Yeah I do too, I was more impressed with that 2 point convertion catch than anything else he has done, for Shannny to do that took balls and to put his trust in a rookie wr took really big balls. I mean to think to he came from Virginia tech ,where they hardly ever threw the ball.

[Alex The Great]

WOW! Got back from the Pats Jets game last night. freaki ng awseme. Great Atmosphere. I still don't get why half of the Jets fans left with 5 minutes left. they were down by only 6! sure we got the FG on that drive but come on! Stick with the team. :down

Cassle was ok. Receivers bailed him out.

That Chargers Broncos game was crzy! :eek:

[Spider-Fan]

I don't forsee my Browns netting a playoff spot. Yesterday, they showed me they lack the attitude of a winning team. They just didn't seem to want to win that game last night, and they were okay with keeping it close.

Even if they beat the Ravens and Bengals the next two weeks, they'll have to eventually beat a team whom is actually good (and the 5th game is against the Giants no less).

Shame too. The Browns have talent. I am not a fire anyone after two weeks kind of guy, but perhaps the Browns should keep the possibility of firing Romeo in the back of their minds and revisit the issue when the season ends (since I acknowledge anything can happen at this point).

[BlackLantern]

WOW! Got back from the Pats Jets game last night. freaki ng awseme. Great Atmosphere. I still don't get why half of the Jets fans left with 5 minutes left. they were down by only 6! sure we got the FG on that drive but come on! Stick with the team. :down

Cassle was ok. Receivers bailed him out.

That Chargers Broncos game was crzy! :eek:

The skanky Flight Crew and Jenn Sterger annoy people away....

[ih8nyy]

WOW! Got back from the Pats Jets game last night. freaki ng awseme. Great Atmosphere. I still don't get why half of the Jets fans left with 5 minutes left. they were down by only 6! sure we got the FG on that drive but come on! Stick with the team. :down

Cassle was ok. Receivers bailed him out.

That Chargers Broncos game was crzy! :eek:

Well 6 points down with 5 minutes left pretty much means the game is over for the Jets. So why not leave an beat the traffic? That's how they roll.

[That-Guy]

I don't forsee my Browns netting a playoff spot. Yesterday, they showed me they lack the attitude of a winning team. They just didn't seem to want to win that game last night, and they were okay with keeping it close.

Even if they beat the Ravens and Bengals the next two weeks, they'll have to eventually beat a team whom is actually good (and the 5th game is against the Giants no less).

Shame too. The Browns have talent. I am not a fire anyone after two weeks kind of guy, but perhaps the Browns should keep the possibility of firing Romeo in the back of their minds and revisit the issue when the season ends (since I acknowledge anything can happen at this point).


Yeah, I'm a Steelers fan myself (so I'm happy about last night) but I feel for you guys because Romeo is an idiot. I couldn't believe they took the field goal on that 4th down when there was about 3 minutes left in the 4th quarter. He should have just let them go for it. When they did that, I knew the game was over. Back when Cowher was Pittsburgh's coach he did something similar to that in a playoff game and I went ballistic.

[Alex The Great]

Rome Crennel screwed the Browns last night. FG with 3 minutes left in the 4th? No thanks.....

[Ace of Knaves]

I don't follow the Browns but you have a couple of decent players. If Braylon could learn to stop dropping balls he would be a brilliant receiver, he's got the moves and speed. I also feel Jamal Lewis has got a bit left in the tank.

[Erzengel]

Looking forward to the Cowboys vs. Eagles game tonight. Should show why the NFC East is the best division in the NFL this year.

[Raiden]

Well 6 points down with 5 minutes left pretty much means the game is over for the Jets. So why not leave an beat the traffic? That's how they roll.

I think after the high expectation bestowed on Jets to beat a Brady-less Pats, and the fans saw that they had regressed back to SOJ, those fans were deflated and that's why they left the game early. I think the team already gave up the game before the fans started leaving the stadium en masse.

[Ace of Knaves]

yea that'll be a great game, does anyone have links to watch it live? i'm in England and we don't get great NFL coverage.

[Dr. Evil]

Will Lane Kiffin coach the Raiders next week?

[BlackLantern]

I think the best thing for Lane Kiffin right now is to get fired...the Raiders have to pay him and he won't be out of a job for long

[Ace of Knaves]

I thought it was their defensive coach who was at risk of getting the sack?

[BlackLantern]

No....the San Jose local paper is citing sources that say Al Davis is ready to fire Lane Kiffin at any time

[Ace of Knaves]

oh i see, well i blame the defensive coach anyway. i mean they didn't dial up one single blitz in their opening game did they?

[Erzengel]

Well technically it's going to be on at like 2 am your time.

However, last night's game was on NBC and you could watch that game over the internet on www.nfl.com. I'm not sure if it was a Sunday Night thing, or what, but you can try watching it live on tv.

[Ace of Knaves]

Well technically it's going to be on at like 2 am your time.

However, last night's game was on NBC and you could watch that game over the internet on www.nfl.com (http://www.nfl.com). I'm not sure if it was a Sunday Night thing, or what, but you can try watching it live on tv.


okay thanx :yay: oh no worries channel 5 is showing it. gonna have to stay up late tonight!!

[Caped Crusader]

Unless Tomlinson develops a tremendous crack cocaine addiction. Then we can all call him LT.

Hey it's whatever. The man was a warrior, the best defensive player in NFL history

[ih8nyy]

I think after the high expectation bestowed on Jets to beat a Brady-less Pats, and the fans saw that they had regressed back to SOJ, those fans were deflated and that's why they left the game early. I think the team already gave up the game before the fans started leaving the stadium en masse.

I'll have to ask my buddy what the deal is. He's a Jets season ticket holder. Poor guy. Although his seats are great.

[ih8nyy]

Hey it's whatever. The man was a warrior, a drug addict and one of the best defensive players in NFL history

Fixed. :oldrazz:

[Ace of Knaves]

It isn't all doom and gloom for the Jets, they still have a chance to make the play-offs IMO

[BlackLantern]

Ya...that gloom is just the hairspray cloud floating over Jersey

[Erzengel]

I think Favre is still not "clicking" with the rest of his team seeing he's been with them for only a month so far. I'll give him another 3 games to see how he does.

[Matt]

Yeah, I'm a Steelers fan myself (so I'm happy about last night) but I feel for you guys because Romeo is an idiot. I couldn't believe they took the field goal on that 4th down when there was about 3 minutes left in the 4th quarter. He should have just let them go for it. When they did that, I knew the game was over. Back when Cowher was Pittsburgh's coach he did something similar to that in a playoff game and I went ballistic.

Yeah...I don't get that call.

I don't follow the Browns but you have a couple of decent players. If Braylon could learn to stop dropping balls he would be a brilliant receiver, he's got the moves and speed. I also feel Jamal Lewis has got a bit left in the tank.

I see the Browns as a team that is very similar to the Cincinatti Bengals of 2005. Last year they had their first good season in God knows how long, and everyone got really excited about it, and created a bunch of Hype, which even the team got sucked into. Therefore they ignored a bunch of fundamental problems with their team and now they suck again and everyone is baffled as to why. Still, they have a couple easy games coming up...so they should be .500 by their bye week...at which point everyone will build them up again, then act shocked when they get their asses handed to them by the Giants.

[ih8nyy]

No....the San Jose local paper is citing sources that say Al Davis is ready to fire Lane Kiffin at any time

"Nev-ah question Al Davis!"

[ih8nyy]

Ya...that gloom is just the hairspray cloud floating over Jersey

Big hair jokes and Jersey go hand in hand. :up:

[Ace of Knaves]

what do you guys reckon is a realistic record for the Falcons this season? slam me all you want but the reason i'm really into the NFL now is because of Mike Vick and the Falcons. I was so disappointed when he got nicked, so much talent and he just threw it away like one of his lasers to Alge.

[Caped Crusader]

Fixed. :oldrazz:

Yea he was into drugs.. but what does that have to do with his on-field play?

The best ever not one of the best

[BlackLantern]

the falcons 7 or 8 wins this year

[BlackLantern]

Yea he was into drugs.. but what does that have to do with his on-field play?

The best ever not one of the best

Well doing rails of coke prior to a game does affect your on-field play...regardless of what Michael Irvin says

[Caped Crusader]

It didnt stop him from doing what he does best on the field

[Ace of Knaves]

How do you reckon Matt Ryan will do? Bearing in mind he hasn't exactly got the best receiving corps.

[Erzengel]

Yeah, I agree. Falcons be lucky to be 8-8 this year. Looking at their schedule, Eagles, Bears, Packers, Broncos, Panthers, Bucs.

[Ace of Knaves]

It didnt stop him from doing what he does best on the field


Yea L.T was the don. great player. i loved him in "Any Given Sunday" what a legend!!!!!

[Immortalfire]

I wonder if Al is even aware of how much of a joke he is. :whatever:

[Immortalfire]

the falcons 7 or 8 wins this year

That'd be a mega improvement from last year. One step at a time.

[Matt]

No one cared about my anti-Cleveland rant. :csad:

[Spider-Fan]

Yeah, I'm a Steelers fan myself (so I'm happy about last night) but I feel for you guys because Romeo is an idiot. I couldn't believe they took the field goal on that 4th down when there was about 3 minutes left in the 4th quarter. He should have just let them go for it. When they did that, I knew the game was over. Back when Cowher was Pittsburgh's coach he did something similar to that in a playoff game and I went ballistic.

Romeo did screw up last night with that FG, and completely butchering his timeouts. You don't call timeout until 3rd and long cause they can still chuck the ball for massive yards. I knew that was going to happen, too.

But more than the bad coaching moves last night, I just didn't see them play with the fire it takes to finally beat a team whose owned us 9 (now 10) straight times. No fire in playing a team in your house, after you were embarrassed, that is pretty much your only competition for the division. I just didn't see it. I take this as Romeo is not motivating the team. We have talent, but he's not getting that fire out of our talent.

If Romeo can't ignite that fire by the end of the season, we'll have to get someone else who will.

Rome Crennel screwed the Browns last night. FG with 3 minutes left in the 4th? No thanks.....

Agreed, that was dumb. But, we should have been driving down in a 10-6 game at that point, not 10-3 (thanks to DA's dumb half ending pick). Also, I don't feel that was the primary reason we lost. See my comments about their seeming lack of motivation.

I don't follow the Browns but you have a couple of decent players. If Braylon could learn to stop dropping balls he would be a brilliant receiver, he's got the moves and speed. I also feel Jamal Lewis has got a bit left in the tank.

We definately have talent. The secondary could be better, and their WRs are banged up, but they have talent. But, that is only half the equation. Good teams have talent and heart. We lack THE HEART OSBORN!!!

I see the Browns as a team that is very similar to the Cincinatti Bengals of 2005. Last year they had their first good season in God knows how long, and everyone got really excited about it, and created a bunch of Hype, which even the team got sucked into. Therefore they ignored a bunch of fundamental problems with their team and now they suck again and everyone is baffled as to why. Still, they have a couple easy games coming up...so they should be .500 by their bye week...at which point everyone will build them up again, then act shocked when they get their asses handed to them by the Giants.

I expected a possible 0-2 start and any playoff hopes rested on winning the division (and our chances were borderline....I've been saying this for a while). Yesterday just got to me cause I feel I learned a lot about the soul of the team, or better yet their lack of a soul. I love my Browns, but until this team gets someone to ignite the sparks, then we'll never be a team worth anything, we'll lose 20 straight to the Steelers, and they'll never have the swagger that the great teams from the past had.

I expect them to be 2-2 heading into the bye, but beating teams you should beat isn't the problem. Until they beat a QUALITY team, we'll continue to be nothing but mediocre at best.

[Spider-Fan]

No one cared about my anti-Cleveland rant. :csad:

I just replied to it.

[Erzengel]

No one cared about my anti-Cleveland rant. :csad:
Well I won't be surprised when the Giants beat them. :huh: :)

[Matt]

I expected a possible 0-2 start and any playoff hopes rested on winning the division (and our chances were borderline....I've been saying this for a while). Yesterday just got to me cause I feel I learned a lot about the soul of the team, or better yet their lack of a soul. I love my Browns, but until this team gets someone to ignite the sparks, then we'll never be a team worth anything, we'll lose 20 straight to the Steelers, and they'll never have the swagger that the great teams from the past had.

I expect them to be 2-2 heading into the bye, but beating teams you should beat isn't the problem. Until they beat a QUALITY team, we'll continue to be nothing but mediocre at best.

Well said :up:

I just replied to it.

And I :heart: you for it.

[Caped Crusader]

Bengals top corner Johnathan Joseph is in a walking boot.

uh oh.

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/1106/nfl_g_burress_580.jpg

[Ace of Knaves]

I just replied to it.


yea i think its like with any team in any sport, you get a big win that was unexpected and you'll turn the corner.

[Raiden]

It isn't all doom and gloom for the Jets, they still have a chance to make the play-offs IMO

Before the season, I thought Jets would be a lock for playoffs, but now I'm not too sure due to the fact that Pats seemed to right the ship after Brady's out and Cassel in as the starter, and Bills are playing good football right now. It's still early, but this was a huge game and Jets blew it completely.

[Spider-Fan]

Bengals top corner Johnathan Joseph is in a walking boot.

uh oh.

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/1106/nfl_g_burress_580.jpg

That'll help my fantasy team :woot:

Well said :up:



And I :heart: you for it.

It was summed best on the Browns post-game radio show, when a caller said when the team left after 95, their swagger left with them, and we may never get it back. I think their is a lot of truth to this.