2008 NFL Thread

[FaT_tONle]

Don't care how many blowouts or fancy games the Cowboys win, until they play a hard knocks gritty game, until they show me that they can keep getting back up after getting knocked on their butts over and over, basically until they beat the super bowl champs, I'm not impressed. Don't care if it was the bengals. So what. They don't need to prove anything to anyone, they've got the rings. The Cowboys are still the ones that really need to prove something, which is can they keep this up in the playoffs.

Apparently you must have misssed the Monday night game... look if Cowboy haters are going to keep bringing up the post season I can't argue with them... but cmon we have MORE THAN THREE MONTHS before then. In the mean time... deal with it. Cowboys are the best team in the NFL right now.

[Bond]

The Cowboys definitely didn't play their best tonight, but yea, I would say they're the best team in the league at the moment.

[Erzengel]

To me... barring injury... it's going to come down to the final few weeks. Whether the Giants and Eagles are hanging with the Cowboys by then I don't know. I am not getting cocky but I believe Dallas will be like 12-2 or 11-3 at that point. The question will be how they'll play out the string.... because they were burned last year by pretty much resting players and taking it easy.

I'll be honest. I haven't been overly impressed by Romo so far. Even with their win over the Eagles, they still gave up a lot of points.

I wouldn't be surprised if their game against the Eagles in Game 17 will be an important game for both of them.

[Mister J]

As far as Denver goes, I'm not buying a team that plays no defense. That nonsense will only take them so far. I'd take the Bills over them right now.
Nope. They're atrocious on that side of the ball.

[Spider-Fan]

Guys, its official. My Brownies suck :dry:

[The Chris]

Apparently you must have misssed the Monday night game... look if Cowboy haters are going to keep bringing up the post season I can't argue with them... but cmon we have MORE THAN THREE MONTHS before then. In the mean time... deal with it. Cowboys are the best team in the NFL right now.

I saw the game. I'm not talking about 43-40 type games or what ever the score was, I'm talking about games where both teams just absolutely manhandle each other. I'm talking about low scoring MAN games, like the ones the pre-Moss Patriots would win. They would fight and claw, and in the end would find a way to win. Games like Super Bowl XLII. The defense fights until they have nothing left and the offense finally scores when they have to. Those games to me are the most impressive, not the huge mega shootouts, that's what I'm talking about.

[FaT_tONle]

I saw the game. I'm not talking about 43-40 type games or what ever the score was, I'm talking about games where both teams just absolutely manhandle each other. I'm talking about low scoring MAN games, like the ones the pre-Moss Patriots would win. They would fight and claw, and in the end would find a way to win. Games like Super Bowl XLII. The defense fights until they have nothing left and the offense finally scores when they have to. Those games to me are the most impressive, not the huge mega shootouts, that's what I'm talking about.

So because they average 28 point per they have to play a conservative game to prove that they can win one of these tight low scoring ball games??? Really insightful way of looking at it... :whatever:

[Cmill216]

I saw the game. I'm not talking about 43-40 type games or what ever the score was, I'm talking about games where both teams just absolutely manhandle each other. I'm talking about low scoring MAN games, like the ones the pre-Moss Patriots would win. They would fight and claw, and in the end would find a way to win. Games like Super Bowl XLII. The defense fights until they have nothing left and the offense finally scores when they have to. Those games to me are the most impressive, not the huge mega shootouts, that's what I'm talking about.

......Did you ever stop to think that maybe the Cowboys won't be in those types of games because people can't stop their offense enough to get them into a low scoring slugfest? :huh:

[Go Web Go!]

It's a process of elimination. Chargers and Jaguars failing to live up to expectations. Patriots and Colts not winning because of injuries. Steelers not getting the job done against the Eagles.

Running out of teams here.

I'd still pick an 0-2 Chargers team and the Steelers over Buffalo. The Colts aren't going to be in this funk for 13 more games, and the Patriots still have a pretty soft schedule the rest of the way. I wouldn't be surprised if the Bills continued to play well (like I said, they don't have many challenges along the way) but I wouldn't pick them over teams that have won consistently over the last few seasons.

[Go Web Go!]

Guys, its official. My Brownies suck :dry:

Sorry, dude. It looks more and more like they're just a trendy pick after a surprising season, much like the Dolphins were after they went 9-7 in '05.

[Hunter Rider]

I saw the game. I'm not talking about 43-40 type games or what ever the score was, I'm talking about games where both teams just absolutely manhandle each other. I'm talking about low scoring MAN games, like the ones the pre-Moss Patriots would win. They would fight and claw, and in the end would find a way to win. Games like Super Bowl XLII. The defense fights until they have nothing left and the offense finally scores when they have to. Those games to me are the most impressive, not the huge mega shootouts, that's what I'm talking about.

I think impressive is when you're so good you don't have to get into those type of games. It's early for sure, but I don't think there is any denying that they look awesome right now.

[The Chris]

......Did you ever stop to think that maybe the Cowboys won't be in those types of games because people can't stop their offense enough to get them into a low scoring slugfest? :huh:

Oh I think they'll be in those games. A lot of these high scoring teams at some point are gonna meet a team that has their number, like the rams against the patriots, you could maybe even count the colts lately (But thye have a boat load of injuries so you choose). I want to see what they'll do with that, and if they overcome like The best really do, then they will get the respect from me. Not saying they can't, I'm saying I don't know, and I need to see it before I name them the best.

P.S.

[Erzengel]

The teams have won consistently over the last few seasons are what made the AFC dominant over the past few years. This year's it's entirely different because of injuries and failed expectations.

[Erzengel]

Oh I think they'll be in those games. A lot of these high scoring teams at some point are gonna meet a team that has their number, like the rams against the patriots, you could maybe even count the colts lately (But thye have a boat load of injuries so you choose). I want to see what they'll do with that, and if they overcome like The best really do, then they will get the respect from me. Not saying they can't, I'm saying I don't know, and I need to see it before I name them the best.

P.S.

You mean the Dolphins?

[The Chris]

Oh and last year's Patriots are what is also keeping me from giving The cowboys the respect that everyone else has given them. They annihilated EVERYONE.

[Erzengel]

Well...um...not everyone. :o

[Cmill216]

Oh and last year's Patriots are what is also keeping me from giving The cowboys the respect that everyone else has given them. They annihilated EVERYONE.

One team's failure shapes your view of a completely different team, in a completely different year?

[The Chris]

Well...um...not everyone. :o
Well, in the regular season I guess. I mean those dudes were scary at times, especially when they played my Jets. Ugh.

[The Chris]

One team's failure shapes your view of a completely different team, in a completely different year?

I'm not saying they stink or anything, I'm just don't want to proclaim any specific team (and honestly especially them:cwink:) the best right now. I want to see it all from them, especially considering the game against the Giants in the playoffs. I know it's last year, but can this Cowboy team overcome that. Do they have the guts? I'm curious. Hey, I'll definately eat the crow if they do have it in them, no doubt.

[Erzengel]

Statistically, the Cowboys have the overall best offensive numbers of any team. However, they dropped the ball in the past 2 playoffs.

I said this before but I likened this year's Cowboys to 2006 Colts. They really can't settle for anything less than a Superbowl win.

[Excel]

The only 3 elite teams around are the Cowboys, Giants, and Eagles. Eagles defense looked superb today. The list of toss up pretender/contender is absurd.

-atlanta is 2-1 and blown out some teams on both sides of the ball (and personally has been my fave non-Pats team to watch)
-oakland beat atlanta, and barely lost to buffalo
-buffalo is consider by some the best in the AFC east
-New England
-Tennesee
-Tampa Bay
-Chicago
-Pittsburg
-Indianapolis
-New Orleans offense has looked great and theyve had a rough schedule so far. Brees n Bush looks great colston is coming back
-Washington
-Airzona
-Carolina
-minnesota

Standing wise, this is fgonna be a crazy season. hell it already is. My surprise team for playoffs....

Atlanta Falcons.

[NewYorkSpider]

-buffalo is consider by some the best in the NFC east


Buffalo moved to the NFC? :huh: :oldrazz:

[Excel]

Buffalo moved to the NFC? :huh: :oldrazz:

Man quit playin, its been a long day for us Pats fans :csad: :p

[Go Web Go!]

Standing wise, this is fgonna be a crazy season. hell it already is. My surprise team for playoffs....

Atlanta Falcons.

May I have some?

:word:

[Nightmare]

Take that patriots!!!

also, **** the cowboys. They'll go 15-1 and still lose in the 1st round again.

[NewYorkSpider]

Man quit playin, its been a long day for us Pats fans :csad: :p

Pats have a bye next week. I expect them to come back strong. Belichick will come up with a new gameplan that should get them rolling again. I just can't see them winning the divison anymore though. Buffalo looks vastly improved and made a strong comeback against Oakland. I think Buffalo wins it this year.

[Poeman]

big game for the Jets tmrw against the chargers.

Time to see Favre's gunslinger arm again!

[Go Web Go!]

Good luck with that..

[StorminNorman]

The only 3 elite teams around are the Cowboys, Giants, and Eagles. Eagles defense looked superb today. The list of toss up pretender/contender is absurd.

-atlanta is 2-1 and blown out some teams on both sides of the ball (and personally has been my fave non-Pats team to watch)
-oakland beat atlanta, and barely lost to buffalo
-buffalo is consider by some the best in the AFC east
-New England
-Tennesee
-Tampa Bay
-Chicago
-Pittsburg
-Indianapolis
-New Orleans offense has looked great and theyve had a rough schedule so far. Brees n Bush looks great colston is coming back
-Washington
-Airzona
-Carolina
-minnesota

Standing wise, this is fgonna be a crazy season. hell it already is. My surprise team for playoffs....

Atlanta Falcons.

Oakland didn't beat Atlanta - Tampa Bay did.

[Double Down]

Fox is saying Lane Kiffin has been told he will be fired tomorrow. Al Davis is an idiot.

[Ace of Knaves]

I see ATL going 8-8 or 9-7 on the year. I know they have only played one decent team so far, and they lost that. But the first route to success is beating the teams that you should beat, and they did that quite comfortably. I'm really liking Malarkys offensive calls and the fact that we have two fast, powerful runners along with a wise head on young shoulders in Matt Ryan, this seems like a good time to be a ATL fan. You can tell since Smith has come in that his priority is power football, on both sides of the ball. They are getting a lot of pressure on the quatrebacks but i still think the secondary is soft.
Overall i'm very pleased with the Falcons.

[The Game]

Isn't soccer your game... or did you just move to England later on?

So because I live in England I have no right to watch other sports besides 'soccer'

[FaT_tONle]

So because I live in England I have no right to watch other sports besides 'soccer'

I was just hoping a team like Man U or Arsenal or whoever you might root for would make up for the Pats being so bad this year...

[Erzengel]

7 - 9

Green Bay, Carolina, Philadelphia, New Orleans, San Diego, lose another to Tampa Bay, split one with New Orleans, and Minnesota.

[Immortalfire]

Roddy White's backflip...

WPSlCREirYs

[Go Web Go!]

Fox is saying Lane Kiffin has been told he will be fired tomorrow. Al Davis is an idiot.

Crypt Keeper Al Davis has no idea what he's doing. Kiffin isn't great by any means, but if you're going to fire him, do so before the season. Word has been floating around all summer. What are you waiting for, old man? Sheesh. That franchise is a mess.

[Alpha and Omega]

Kiffin would be a better coach if he could hire his own staff. How can you hire a guy and not allow him to bring in his own people? Ridiculous!:down The Raider's organization was asking for problems from the start. They'll be the laughing stock of the league for a long time, unless Davis croaks.

[Go Web Go!]

They'll be the laughing stock of the league for a long time, unless Davis croaks.

That's not very nice...true though.

:o

[The Game]

I was just hoping a team like Man U or Arsenal or whoever you might root for would make up for the Pats being so bad this year...

I Despise Arsenal and can't stand Man U, I support Chelsea good team but last season while the Pats went 18-1 :csad:, they came second best in every competition they had a chance to win :csad::csad:

[Alpha and Omega]

That's not very nice...true though.

:o

:csad: I know, but the Black and Silver hopefuls need something to look forward to, and it's not '09-'10, '10-'11, '11-'12. . . uhhh, you get the picture.

We thought you should know that Al Davis stated recently that he will not retire until the Oakland Raiders win two more Super Bowls (http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/al-davis-not-retiring-until-raiders-win-two-super-bowls-14746.php). We're not saying that it may take a few years, but we did immediately think of this photo. "Al, if you want a two tight end set, beep twice. For a running play, beep once."

Laughing stock indeed.

[Belvedere]

Well, atleast Green Bay lost too.

That softens the blow slightly, I guess.

[Excel]

I see ATL going 8-8 or 9-7 on the year. I know they have only played one decent team so far, and they lost that. But the first route to success is beating the teams that you should beat, and they did that quite comfortably. I'm really liking Malarkys offensive calls and the fact that we have two fast, powerful runners along with a wise head on young shoulders in Matt Ryan, this seems like a good time to be a ATL fan. You can tell since Smith has come in that his priority is power football, on both sides of the ball. They are getting a lot of pressure on the quatrebacks but i still think the secondary is soft.
Overall i'm very pleased with the Falcons.

Only thing they could do better is get Norwood more touches. He just screams big play, I believe is the league leader in plays over 15 yards so far.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea i like Norwood, the should use him and Turner similer to Brown and Williams at Miami. But i think as the season progresses, with Turner getting at least 20 carries a game, Norwood will come into play more towards the end.

[Ace of Knaves]

Who Norwood? He just loves breaking big ones don't he!! His average yards per carry must be like 6-7 right?

[Go Web Go!]

Laughing stock indeed.

That story. Oh boy...

The man has overdosed on crazy pills.

[Kaleb]

Coach Romeo Crennel was non-committal when talking about Derek Anderson's job status Monday.

"We have to evaluate what we've done so far and who is going to give us the best chance to win. ... We have to look at all positions," Crennel said. He hinted the team needs to do a better job preparing Brady Quinn. It sounds like a quarterback change could happen this week or during Cleveland's Week 5 bye. Anderson is on a very short leash at best. Anderson owners should grab Quinn if possible.


sorce :rotoworld.com


lol

[BlackLantern]

so what happens when Brady Quinn screws the pooch? they gonna sign Testaverde?

[kane9321]

the 49ers have an offense...wooooohoooo

[Kaleb]

vwgNqQlHfQ8

Kellen Winslow jr, you just got JACKED UP!!!! :o

[Belvedere]

Lovie Smith, Bob Babich and Ron Turner need to be fired :cmad::csad:

vwgNqQlHfQ8

Kellen Winslow jr, you just got JACKED UP!!!! :o

Damn!

The "Soldier" is going to be feeling that one for years.

[Marx]

vwgNqQlHfQ8

Kellen Winslow jr, you just got JACKED UP!!!! :o

Holy crap! :wow:

[Ace of Knaves]

Damn Ray Lewis F'd that guy up!!! Man that was a beast of a tackle!!! Have you guys seen the one of Reggie Bush against the Seahawks? Brees threw it to him on a screen and before he could even look up-field BAAM!!!! Got completely smashed

[Kaleb]

Damn Ray Lewis F'd that guy up!!! Man that was a beast of a tackle!!! Have you guys seen the one of Reggie Bush against the Seahawks? Brees threw it to him on a screen and before he could even look up-field BAAM!!!! Got completely smashed
Im sure that was agaisnt the Eagles .

[Ace of Knaves]

Oh yea sorry it is against the Eagles, i just checked on Youtube. That was a beast of a hit though

[Silver Knight]

Is it safe to say KC and the Rams are the worst teams in the L by far?

[Kaleb]

Oh yea sorry it is against the Eagles, i just checked on Youtube. That was a beast of a hit though

one of my fav hits last season, basically told Reggie that his ''college sh#@'' doesnt work in the nfl.



rQS26UAfWQ0

Love this Dawkins tackle.

[Kaleb]

Is it safe to say KC and the Rams are the worst teams in the L by far?

hang on, let me see....




yip its safe to say it.

[Raiden]

Is it safe to say KC and the Rams are the worst teams in the L by far?

Yes, and I think Raiders might join them despite McFadden.

[Kaleb]

Yes, and I think Raiders might join them despite McFadden.

Think first 3 picks will go like this

1.Chiefs
2.Rams
3. Raiders

[Ace of Knaves]

one of my fav hits last season, basically told Reggie that his ''college sh#@'' doesnt work in the nfl.



rQS26UAfWQ0

Love this Dawkins tackle.


Hahahaha that was more like a German Suplex!!!

[Silver Knight]

Raiders have won a game and should have won yesurday. I dont think they are that bad actually.

[Go Web Go!]

vwgNqQlHfQ8

Kellen Winslow jr, you just got JACKED UP!!!! :o

That's U on U crime!

Winslow has always kind of annoyed me though..

[The Game]

so what happens when Brady Quinn screws the pooch? they gonna sign Testaverde?

No Testaverde is waiting for the pats to call :woot:

[NewYorkSpider]

Al Davis is so retarded. The team has so much potential to be a contender in the coming years. Changing coaches now would just be stupid. Dennis Green will probably become the coach next season.

[Raiden]

Al Davis is so retarded. The team has so much potential to be a contender in the coming years. Changing coaches now would just be stupid. Dennis Green will probably become the coach next season.

Al Davis just want a "yes man" to be their HC. Dennis Green is pretty desperate for a HC job so I think he might be a perfect fit there.

[Immortalfire]

Al just wants to win. Unfortunately, it's not football games.

[Kaleb]

Id laugh my ass of if next season the Raiders get Bronco's offensive coordinator to be their new H.C. That would piss Shanny off so badly

[Raiden]

Id laugh my ass of if next season the Raiders get Bronco's offensive coordinator to be their new H.C. That would piss Shanny off so badly

They'd be like Belichick/Mangini II.

[Kaleb]

In fact I wouldnt put it past the krypt keeper to do that.

[Kaleb]

Mike Lombardi of the National Football Post has learned that Packers CB Al Harris could be lost for the season with a ruptured spleen.

This is the same injury that knocked Chris Simms out in 2006. Harris is 33 now, but still arguably a top-five cover corner in the league. His backup at left corner is third-year undrafted free agent Tramon Williams.



The Pack have zero depth at CB, this loss is going to hurt badly...

[Raiden]

Mike Lombardi of the National Football Post has learned that Packers CB Al Harris could be lost for the season with a ruptured spleen.

This is the same injury that knocked Chris Simms out in 2006. Harris is 33 now, but still arguably a top-five cover corner in the league. His backup at left corner is third-year undrafted free agent Tramon Williams.



The Pack have zero depth at CB, this loss is going to hurt badly...

Looks like Packers, like Broncos, will have to rely on their offense to win the games for them.

[Mister J]

Has Al Davis named himself Head Coach yet?

[jaguarr]

Damn you, Al Davis!!!! :cmad: :shakes fist:

jag

[BlackLantern]

Lane Kiffin won't be unemployed for long....he's a good coach and I have a feeling a team out there is already preparing an offer

[Dark Donnie]

Lane Kiffin won't be unemployed for long....he's a good coach and I have a feeling a team out there is already preparing an offer

I read he is likely to take the HC job at Syracuse

[jaguarr]

Lane Kiffin won't be unemployed for long....he's a good coach and I have a feeling a team out there is already preparing an offer

The fact that he's been able to make the Raiders not ABSOLUTELY and COMPLETELY suck giant ass this season despite Davis' constant interference is actually pretty impressive. Al wants to win but he's the biggest obstacle to the Raiders being able to do it. Talk about self-defeating.

jag

[Ace of Knaves]

Didn't the Raiders off-load one of their top WRs?

[Kaleb]

Lane Kiffin won't be unemployed for long....he's a good coach and I have a feeling a team out there is already preparing an offer


Syracuse are interested I heard :o

[Kaleb]

The Raiders are clearly not interested in winning, they just want to find new exciting ways to lose games.

[Kaleb]

Saints have suffered another blow on offense.

Jeremy Shockey is out for 3-6 weeks with a sports hernia, and David Patten has a groin strain.

[Erzengel]

A second-round pick and a fifth-round pick seems so much better for the Giants. :up:

[BlackLantern]

Saints have suffered another blow on offense.

Jeremy Shockey is out for 3-6 weeks with a sports hernia, and David Patten has a groin strain.

It's because he cut the hair....and dated Tara Reid.....

[Ace of Knaves]

haha that girl would give anyone a hernia

[Immortalfire]

It's because he cut the hair....and dated Tara Reid.....

If only we all could accomplish such grand achievements.

[Poeman]

It's because he cut the hair....and dated Tara Reid.....

Its simply because hes Jeremy "the douche" Shockey

btw Kevin Boss is the real deal

[Ace of Knaves]

na Tony Scheffler is the best TE at the moment IMO. he just seems to be able to pull the ball in not matter how many guys hes got around him.

[Go Web Go!]

A second-round pick and a fifth-round pick seems so much better for the Giants. :up:

Same for Miami & what they got back for Jason Taylor. Unloaded him just in time. :cwink:

[BlackLantern]

Boss has managed to do a good job for stepping in mid season last year....and he actually doesn't have a problem doing things other than catching the ball....

[Kaleb]

Its simply because hes Jeremy "the douche" Shockey

btw Kevin Boss is the real deal
based off his perfomance agaisnt the bengals D :huh:

[Kaleb]

Jason Witten is the best TE atm.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea IMO its between Witten and Scheffler. Witten is a reception beast, hes Romos go to guy when things get a bit hairy. But Scheffler can just pull of some extraordinary plays, he can make grabs when hes got like 3 or 4 defenders around him.

[Kaleb]

Yea IMO its between Witten and Scheffler. Witten is a reception beast, hes Romos go to guy when things get a bit hairy. But Scheffler can just pull of some extraordinary plays, he can make grabs when hes got like 3 or 4 defenders around him.

true, I remember last season when he caught the ball between his legs in the redzone.

[FaT_tONle]

I Despise Arsenal and can't stand Man U, I support Chelsea good team but last season while the Pats went 18-1 :csad:, they came second best in every competition they had a chance to win :csad::csad:

What is the buzz about the London game coming up? What was the feel last year? I am assuming most people there don't know anything about it or they could care less about it.

[The Game]

Yea IMO its between Witten and Scheffler. Witten is a reception beast, hes Romos go to guy when things get a bit hairy. But Scheffler can just pull of some extraordinary plays, he can make grabs when hes got like 3 or 4 defenders around him.

No its Witten by himself the rest can fight for 2nd place

[Ace of Knaves]

What is the buzz about the London game coming up? What was the feel last year? I am assuming most people there don't know anything about it or they could care less about it.

You talking about the Fins-Giants game? It sold out Wembley stadium, 85,000

[Kaleb]

What is the buzz about the London game coming up? What was the feel last year? I am assuming most people there don't know anything about it or they could care less about it.

I was at the dolphins / giants game last season and although the weather sucked ass, I still enjoyed it as it was my first game I went to, this season im hoping my friend invites me for the Saints vs Chargers game since I payed for the tickets last season.

[That-Guy]

Any Steelers fans out there? If so, I'm sure you're as bummed out as I am today about Sunday's game. And it's something I've been seeing with Pittsburgh for three goddamned seasons.

IF YOU DON'T PROTECT YOUR QUARTERBACK HE CAN'T THROW THE F**KING BALL.

As you can imagine, I was screaming this at my TV yesterday. I know there will be people who disagree with me here, but Ben Roethlisberger is one of the best quarterbacks in the league. I daresay that if he had New England's or Dallas' offensive line, he might be the best. But as it stands right now, he's lucky if he has a second to think before six guys jump on top of him.

Yesterday was an embarrassment. And to make things worse, it was a game against the Eagles, so unfortunately, the next time I go visit my home state of PA, I'm going to have to listen to a bunch of gloating Eagles fans go an and on about how much better their team is. Where are your Super Bowl rings then, jackasses?

But unfortunately, right now they are right. The Eagles, as much as I hate them and their whining baby of a quarterback, are a much stronger team than the Steelers are right now. And why is that? Pittsburgh has a great QB. Pittsburgh has a great defense. Pittsburgh has good receivers like Ward and Holmes. But Pittsburgh lets the other teams defense run right past them and sack their QB 50% of the time. The other 50%, Willie Parker gets a hand-off and runs straight into the pile. Didn't get a 100 yard game last night, did ya?

Mike Tomlin (a guy who defines the term "in over his head") actually acknowledged that the problem was not protecting Ben. Well it's about time! Here, I thought letting your QB get his ass leveled in every other game was all part of your brilliant strategy. So maybe next week, we'll see a turnaround. I certainly hope so, because with the Steelers losing to the team I hate most in the league this week, I think I'm going to give up on football if they lose to my second most-hated team.

Sadly, this had to happen. A truly horrible game to show these guys that their offensive line is as broken as our country's political system. But Rome wasn't built in a day, and unfortunately, I doubt something this f**ked can get fixed in a week.

[The Game]

You talking about the Fins-Giants game? It sold out Wembley stadium, 85,000

Im still trying to get tickets (cheap ones) for the coming match, me and my mate got tickets for £50 each, a week before kick off last year

[FaT_tONle]

You talking about the Fins-Giants game? It sold out Wembley stadium, 85,000

Well I am not suprised... Premiere League clubs and other european stars that play in the states draw sell out crowds... there is a built in fan base... but 90% of that population probably knows nothing about American football. At least that's my guess. I mean look no further than the failure of NFL Europe.

[BlackLantern]

What is the buzz about the London game coming up? What was the feel last year? I am assuming most people there don't know anything about it or they could care less about it.

I don't mind doing the occasional pre-season game outside the States, but I completely disagree with doing regular season games outside the country...it's taking revenue away from American cities....I do admire Jerry Jones coming right out and saying that the Cowboys will NOT be playing any regular season games outside the US

[FaT_tONle]

I don't mind doing the occasional pre-season game outside the States, but I completely disagree with doing regular season games outside the country...it's taking revenue away from American cities....I do admire Jerry Jones coming right out and saying that the Cowboys will NOT be playing any regular season games outside the US

But what is there left for the NFL to conquer in the domestic market?

[BlackLantern]

How about getting the NFL Network into more homes...?

[Kaleb]

Any Steelers fans out there? If so, I'm sure you're as bummed out as I am today about Sunday's game. And it's something I've been seeing with Pittsburgh for three goddamned seasons.

IF YOU DON'T PROTECT YOUR QUARTERBACK HE CAN'T THROW THE F**KING BALL.

As you can imagine, I was screaming this at my TV yesterday. I know there will be people who disagree with me here, but Ben Roethlisberger is one of the best quarterbacks in the league. I daresay that if he had New England's or Dallas' offensive line, he might be the best. But as it stands right now, he's lucky if he has a second to think before six guys jump on top of him.

Yesterday was an embarrassment. And to make things worse, it was a game against the Eagles, so unfortunately, the next time I go visit my home state of PA, I'm going to have to listen to a bunch of gloating Eagles fans go an and on about how much better their team is. Where are your Super Bowl rings then, jackasses?

But unfortunately, right now they are right. The Eagles, as much as I hate them and their whining baby of a quarterback, are a much stronger team than the Steelers are right now. And why is that? Pittsburgh has a great QB. Pittsburgh has a great defense. Pittsburgh has good receivers like Ward and Holmes. But Pittsburgh lets the other teams defense run right past them and sack their QB 50% of the time. The other 50%, Willie Parker gets a hand-off and runs straight into the pile. Didn't get a 100 yard game last night, did ya?

Mike Tomlin (a guy who defines the term "in over his head") actually acknowledged that the problem was not protecting Ben. Well it's about time! Here, I thought letting your QB get his ass leveled in every other game was all part of your brilliant strategy. So maybe next week, we'll see a turnaround. I certainly hope so, because with the Steelers losing to the team I hate most in the league this week, I think I'm going to give up on football if they lose to my second most-hated team.

Sadly, this had to happen. A truly horrible game to show these guys that their offensive line is as broken as our country's political system. But Rome wasn't built in a day, and unfortunately, I doubt something this f**ked can get fixed in a week.


Its about to get worse for them next week :o

[FaT_tONle]

People are taking the Ravens seriously now? Pitt will run away with it...

[Kaleb]

People are taking the Ravens seriously now? Pitt will run away with it...

the media isnt taking the ravens seriously :huh: , they showed highlights on espn and all they spoke about was how bad the browns are.

[Belvedere]

I don't mind doing the occasional pre-season game outside the States, but I completely disagree with doing regular season games outside the country...it's taking revenue away from American cities....I do admire Jerry Jones coming right out and saying that the Cowboys will NOT be playing any regular season games outside the US

I often visit England myself (seeing as I used to live in London), I went to Wembley last year and have already purchased tickets to go this year; I personally found the experience to be an enjoyable one, despite how bad the actual game was.

I'm all for them, to be honest.

[Poeman]

based off his perfomance agaisnt the bengals D :huh:

and based off his performance in the superbowl against the *18-1 Pats

[Kaleb]

RODNEY HARRISON CALLS RICKY WILLIAMS BLOCK DIRTY
Posted by Michael David Smith on September 22, 2008, 4:12 p.m.
Pot, meet kettle: Patriots safety Rodney Harrison is criticizing Dolphins running back Ricky Williams for what Harrison says was a dirty play Sunday.

On the first play of the fourth quarter, Ronnie Brown scored on a 62-yards run. Running downfield trailing the play, Williams dove at the legs of Patriots linebacker Mike Vrabel. After the play, Vrabel retaliated with a shot at Williams, and they were both flagged with personal fouls.

Harrison was asked after the game if he thought it was a dirty play on Williams’ part, and he answered, “Of course it was. Of course it was. There’s no place in the game for that.”

Some would argue that there’s no place in the game for a lot of what Harrison does. In July a poll of NFL coaches revealed that they overwhelmingly believe Harrison is the dirtiest player in the league.

For Williams’ part, he said, “A lot of defensive guys don’t like it when you go at their legs. I can understand that. … If I had to do it all over again, I wouldn’t have done it because I can understand why he was upset. I was caught up in the play and just trying to help [Brown]. I wasn’t trying to hurt anybody.”

source: profootballtalk.com



kids todays new word is hypocrite , tell me can one of you use that in a sentance ?

[Bond]

Wow :lmao:

[BlackLantern]

Whatever....I'm surprised Rodney hasn't shanked someone at this point....Ronnie Brown violated the Patriots defense yesterday....

[Go Web Go!]

I hope Rodney Harrison tears his achillies.

I know, shame on me. Can't stand the guy though.

[Mister J]

Rodney Harrison said that? Wow. :dry:

[Raiden]

Any Steelers fans out there? If so, I'm sure you're as bummed out as I am today about Sunday's game. And it's something I've been seeing with Pittsburgh for three goddamned seasons.

IF YOU DON'T PROTECT YOUR QUARTERBACK HE CAN'T THROW THE F**KING BALL.

Sadly, this had to happen. A truly horrible game to show these guys that their offensive line is as broken as our country's political system. But Rome wasn't built in a day, and unfortunately, I doubt something this f**ked can get fixed in a week.

I like the Steelers because it's the team my sister and brother-in-law like and support, and I agree with you that their OL needs work. Steelers is imo better than Eagles, but if you can't protect your QB, then it doesn't matter if you have the best on the field; they can't make a play flat on their back.

[Ironfan72]

Great game by the giants and bengals!!!

That was a very good game, that's the first sign's of life from my Bengals this year, they actually protected Palmer very well, Giants are as good as advertised.
I hope Cincy has finally woken up and plays to its potential, have to wait and see.

[Dr. Evil]

Does anyone notice that ESPN has more analysts for their NFL coverage then their baseball coverage?

Except with baseball, they have America's Favorite Game "Name that Molina." NFL doesn't have that, except cool highlight music.

[Tigerking]

If the Eagles can get 8 sacks on Big Ben, the Ravens will make him his *****...

[Dr. Evil]

Lane Kiffin isn't fired.....for now.

But who knows though.

Some injury notes:

- Packers CB Al Harris out for season with ruptured spleen
- Saints TE Jeremy Shockey out 3 to 6 weeks with sports hernia

I also read a report that the Vikings could be interested in Matt Cassell in free agency at the end of the season.

[Kaleb]

Report: Fight breaks out during Raiders press conference




You can't make this stuff up

lol

http://cohn.pressdemocrat.com/default.asp?item=2264900&mode=

This is getting better all the time. Better in the sense of more ridiculous - but these are the Raiders and anything goes.

I'm saying there was almost a fistfight in the Raiders press room after Lane Kiffin's Monday press conference, a fistfight between a Raiders official and a columnist (not me).

Yee-haw!!

The tension had started a few minutes earlier during the Q&A with Kiffin. My friend Tim Kawakami from the San Jose Mercury asked Kiffin if he feels isolated on the Raiders. Kawakami mentioned an article he said the Raiders passed out to the media critical of Kiffin. From back in the room, Raiders official John Herrera - the one who allegedly passed out the article - interrupted the press conference. This act of interrupting was totally unheard of. Herrera yelled, "That's not true. That's not true, Kawakami."

Kawakami ignored him and so did Kiffin, who seemed mildly amused, and the press conference proceeded in an awkward way. I mean, how could it be the same? It's like you're invited to dinner at your boss's house and your boss has white carpets and you spill a glass of red wine on the carpet. The boss's wife says "Don't worry, it'll clean up," but you know the evening is ruined.

Well, the afternoon over here got ruined - or maybe it got better. You couldn't make up this stuff, and in a weird way, it's fascinating.

When the press conference ended, Herrera started shouting at Kawakami.

"You're a liar," Herrera shouted. "You built a whole column on a lie. So did Lowell Cohn." (Hey, that hurts my feelings, John.)

Kawakami put his hand on Herrera's arm in a peacekeeping soothing way and said, "Calm down." Herrera violently shook it off. "Get your hand off me," he shouted. "Get your (bleeping) hand off me."

To which Kawakami replied, "Do you want to take a punch at me?"

"Yeah, I'd love to."

And then I heard Kawakami say, "I'd love to own part of this franchise," meaning if a Raider official slugged him he could sue.

Hey, kids, they don't teach you this stuff in Journalism 101. I may have missed the exact words in all the hub bub - things were kind of crazy - but I was very close.

Herrera continued to make his point. "Nothing was distributed in this room," he shouted. "Nothing. Nothing."

Herrera meant he didn't actually make the critical Kiffin article available, although according to sources, he directly handed it to one beat writer. According to my sources he let other beat writers know the article existed. So, technically he didn't hand it out, but he encouraged writers to know about it and read it.

The last thing I heard, Kawakami - bravely to my way of thinking -- told Herrera, "You're welcome to sue me."

Another fun day at the Raiders. And get this, I went to see the coach get fired, but a fight broke out, instead. The Raiders always provide.

[Metropolis_Man]

Mr. Rivers is picked.

[The Game]

Damn @ Rivers, if Bolts go 0-3, Im going to be lol'ing for the whole week

[Metropolis_Man]

I hope for another good game like last Monday, but it will be very hard to top that.

[Kaleb]

that was a horrible pass by rivers ( to Vincent )

[FaT_tONle]

Chargers can easily make the playoffs even if they go to 0-3... they play the Colts and Pats still... the Jags are only 1-2 so they are only a game behind them... they will control their own destiny. But they'll be chasing a wild card spot.

[Kaleb]

another pass from Rivers to Davis.

[FaT_tONle]

the media isnt taking the ravens seriously :huh: , they showed highlights on espn and all they spoke about was how bad the browns are.

I only made that comment because Pitt fans are over reacting... I don't think it was realistic to expect them to clinch a bye anyhow with their schedule... but they'll easily make the playoffs.

[Showtime]

Chargers can easily make the playoffs even if they go to 0-3... they play the Colts and Pats still... the Jags are only 1-2 so they are only a game behind them... they will control their own destiny. But they'll be chasing a wild card spot.

Who are all of a sudden push overs? :huh:

[FaT_tONle]

Who are all of a sudden push overs? :huh:

Yeah we all know how sharp the Pats and Colts have been this year... but I believe SD hosts both games although I'd have to double check that... if the Broncos and Bills run away with it those games become even more critical. But I like the Chargers in both those games if they are healthy.

[The Game]

Chargers can easily make the playoffs even if they go to 0-3... they play the Colts and Pats still... the Jags are only 1-2 so they are only a game behind them... they will control their own destiny. But they'll be chasing a wild card spot.

Jeez not this again

[Kaleb]

oh come on Cromartie should have taken that to the house.

[Kaleb]

Jammer with the int, and now Chargers have good field position.

[Kaleb]

Buster Davis suddenly has become rivers fav target :confused:

[The Game]

Where ya going Rivers huh?

Nice TD

[FaT_tONle]

Jeez not this again

Jets started 2-5 in 2002... they beat the Pats and pretty much knocked them out of the playoffs in week 16 and won the division the following week. So I don't know what your point is exactly.

[Kaleb]

Nice td to the fullback.

[Showtime]

Yeah we all know how sharp the Pats and Colts have been this year... but I believe SD hosts both games although I'd have to double check that... if the Broncos and Bills run away with it those games become even more critical. But I like the Chargers in both those games if they are healthy.

If San Diego loses tonight they both have better records then the Chargers...

[Showtime]

Jets started 2-5 in 2002... they beat the Pats and pretty much knocked them out of the playoffs in week 16 and won the division the following week. So I don't know what your point is exactly.

What does that one example have to do with anything? :huh:

[The Game]

Jets started 2-5 in 2002... they beat the Pats and pretty much knocked them out of the playoffs in week 16 and won the division the following week. So I don't know what your point is exactly.

2002 oh wow what has that got to do with 2008, you used to be good at this... smh

[FaT_tONle]

What does that one example have to do with anything? :huh:

You want me to find more examples of teams bouncing back from 0-3? Or even worser situations? I am sure you can look it up yourself. You are talking as if the Pats and Colts are the teams of old... Colts have dropped two home games. The Pats looked bloody awful yesterday. They'd be two games up with 13 left to play... hardly insurmountable considering they play the Chargers on the road.

[Kaleb]

woot Antonio Cromartie int and takes it to the house

[kane9321]

woohoooo took it back 52 yards

[The Game]

Favre INT.............lets wait for the ESPN spin

[kane9321]

awwwwwwww crap

[Kaleb]

holy crap, this game is looking good.

[Showtime]

You want me to find more examples of teams bouncing back from 0-3? Or even worser situations? I am sure you can look it up yourself. You are talking as if the Pats and Colts are the teams of old... Colts have dropped two home games. The Pats looked bloody awful yesterday. They'd be two games up with 13 left to play... hardly insurmountable considering they play the Chargers on the road.

Of course I could do it myself, but there are also plenty of teams that started 0-3 and bit the dust as well? Do you want me to look them up for you, or are you going to get to it?

So let me get this straight. The Patriots at 2-1 and the Colts at 1-2 are going to lose to the Chargers who might be 0-3 after tonight, because the Patriots and Colts are not the teams of old and because of the 2002 Jets and other examples.

[Poeman]

neon leon..

[Metropolis_Man]

Very nice! Now this is what I like to see. A good game going back and forth. Pats will go 10-6 by the way.

[FaT_tONle]

Of course I could do it myself, but there are also plenty of teams that started 0-3 and bit the dust as well? Do you want me to look them up for you, or are you going to get to it?

So let me get this straight. The Patriots at 2-1 and the Colts at 1-2 are going to lose to the Chargers who might be 0-3 after tonight, because the Patriots and Colts are not the teams of old and because of the 2002 Jets and other examples.

You don't think that it is inconceivable that the Chargers might be favored against the Pats? And perhaps even the Colts... it's too early to say because they don't play the Colts in a while... but get back to me in three weeks when SD is a favorite for that NE game. You guys look at the standings now and think it's December... it's laughable.

[Showtime]

You don't think that it is inconceivable that the Chargers might be favored against the Pats? And perhaps even the Colts... it's too early to say because they don't play the Colts in a while... but get back to me in three weeks when SD is a favorite for that NE game. You guys look at the standings now and think it's December... it's laughable.

Where did I say they wouldn't be "favored"? :huh:

What do "odds" have to do with actually winning the game, I really don't understand what you're refering to. I'm talking about winning and losing football games not who is favored?

[FaT_tONle]

Where did I say they wouldn't be "favored"? :huh:

What do "odds" have to do with actually winning the game, I really don't understand what you're refering to. I'm talking about winning and losing football games not who is favored?

I would think the people down at Vegas making those odds make them in terms of who they think will WIN THE FOOTBALL GAME. I would like to think they know at least as much as you and me.

[Showtime]

I would think the people down at Vegas making those odds make them in terms of who they think will WIN THE FOOTBALL GAME. I would like to think they know at least as much as you and me.

Well then you should always be betting the favorites then Tonie. Good luck with all that. :csad:

http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/nwzchik/2006/11/03/raiderettes350x241.JPG

[FaT_tONle]

Well then you should always be betting the favorites then Tonie. Good luck with all that. :csad:

Are you yourself not essentially making a prediction by calling me crazy for thinking an 0-3 Charger team can come back and beat the Pats (God knows where they will be) three weeks from now? I rest my case... :whatever:

[Kaleb]

3 int for favre now lol

[Showtime]

Are you yourself not essentially making a prediction by calling me crazy for thinking an 0-3 Charger team can come back and beat the Pats (God knows where they will be) three weeks from now? I rest my case... :whatever:

I didn't call you crazy, I just disagree with your reasoning. If you scroll back which is easy to do, I said the Patriots and Colts, you act as if they are easy games and pointed to them on the schedule as if they will help the Chargers. So what case are you resting?

[Venom'sDad]

yeah... farve is such an overrated blowfish

[Kaleb]

Jets Favre = 2005/2006

[FaT_tONle]

I didn't call you crazy, I just disagree with your reasoning. If you scroll back which is easy to do, I said the Patriots and Colts, you act as if they are easy games and pointed to them on the schedule as if they will help the Chargers. So what case are you resting?

"So let me get this straight" never implies a positive thing. And I NEVER acted like they were easy games... if you went back and read my post... I stated... they "play the Pats/Colts"... meaning "they control their own destiny"... where is the flaw in that logic?

[Showtime]

"So let me get this straight" never implies a positive thing.

What do you mean by positive? I disagree with you, I guess you could say that isn't positive?

And I NEVER acted like they were easy games... if you went back and read my post... I stated... they "play the Pats/Colts"... meaning "they control their own destiny"... where is the flaw in that logic?

Yeah we all know how sharp the Pats and Colts have been this year.

You are talking as if the Pats and Colts are the teams of old... Colts have dropped two home games. The Pats looked bloody awful yesterday.

:huh:

[FaT_tONle]

How the **** do those statements anyway imply that the CHargers would have it easy against them? All that says is that those two teams might be mediocre this year, and the Chargers may very well fall into the same group. I never said the Chargers were still the class of the AFC even if they went 0-3.

What do you mean by positive? I disagree with you, I guess you could say that isn't positive?

Disagreeing in a condescending way...

[Bunker]

Whatever happened to Alex Smith?

[Bond]

He either got benched or got hurt. I think benched.

[Cmill216]

He's on IR.

[Kaleb]

jeez Rivers has all day to throw.

[Showtime]

How the **** do those statements anyway imply that the CHargers would have it easy against them? All that says is that those two teams might be mediocre this year, and the Chargers may very well fall into the same group. I never said the Chargers were still the class of the AFC even if they went 0-3.

I must be delirious.

Disagreeing in a condescending way...

Just a little.

[Double Down]

Warner, Boldin and Fitzgerald are going to kill this Jets "defense" next week.

[FaT_tONle]

Warner, Boldin and Fitzgerald are going to kill this Jets "defense" next week.

Pshhh... Charger offense is darn good. I think the Cardinals can steal one next week. But I doubt they'll put up 35 or something. Jets are capable of playing better D.

[Poeman]

i had jets at 2-2 by the bye week...so i knew this was a guaranteed loss but i was hoping for better

[StorminNorman]

Hear that sound? Yea - thats the sound of millions of Packer fans greatly ashamed that they are secretly glad they have Rodger over Favre.

[Venom'sDad]

I just can't wait for the New York Press to start ripping his arse.

[FaT_tONle]

Farve always throws a clunker... no suprise... if the Jets have any playoff aspirations they need to ride this guys arm and let him be a gun slinger especially when they don't get production in the running game. The media won't get on Farve untill the team is 1-4 or worse. Even then he'll get a pass.

[Venom'sDad]

Nope.... Derrick Jeter is the only New Yorker that gets a pass.

[Go Web Go!]

Are the Chargers special teams usually this horrid? I haven't watched the entire game, but when I have watched the Jets are always running a kick back deep into SD territory.

Not that I care. Dolphins do play them at home in 2 weeks. Muahaha.

In the mean time, please beat these filthy Jets.

[Go Web Go!]

What a [p-word] onside kick that was.

[cyborg ninja 14]

Favre INT.............lets wait for the ESPN spin

ESPN spin "It's not his fault, he's had a bad O-line that screws up offensive rythym, he is still football god. Praise Favre and all his gritty glory."

[cyborg ninja 14]

Nope.... Derrick Jeter is the only New Yorker that gets a pass.

I've never heard of him

[Mister J]

Favre caught a free pass for some horrible interceptions in the two seasons before last, just based on his name. The excuses the media made for him were ridiculous. He's due to be ripped. 'Gunslinger' my behind. Sometimes, it's just a stupid pass.

Damn, the Dolphins could have had that Week 1 victory.

[Cmill216]

I didn't watch the game, but I see the Jets got their heads handed to them.

Classy.

[Raiden]

I think I have said it before, but if Jets don't make the playoff then Mangini should be fired. Games like this makes me wish I didn't root for Jets. :cmad:

[Ace of Knaves]

So was Favre really that bad? Whats his numbers?

[FaT_tONle]

I think I have said it before, but if Jets don't make the playoff then Mangini should be fired. Games like this makes me wish I didn't root for Jets. :cmad:

I think he'll get one more year as long as Farve commits early on after the season... he'll get a pass because it's Farve's first year. If Farve decides to retire for good (which he won't) then Mangini could be in trouble by the end of the year. Eight or nine wins and he is definitely secure IMO

[Poeman]

favre had ok numbers 3tds 2 ints 271 yards

[Excel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y3bcQN3FvA

check old twinkle toes :lmao:

[Double Down]

http://www.bossip.com/wp-content/uploads/kennyirons.jpg (http://www.bossip.com/10324/fill-in-the-blank-24/kenny-irons-booty-shorts/)
NFL Running Back Kenny Irons, who plays for the Cincinnati Bengals, was photographed showing off an interesting ensemble with the black footies to match.

[Dark Donnie]

:dry: what the...

[jaguarr]

What in the blue hell? :huh:

jag

[BlackLantern]

I'm listening to WFAN and they are going on about the game last night and how it was a disaster for the Jets...but it really wasn't because San Diego is one of the best teams in the AFC with one of the NFL's premiere players....were people expecting the Jets to win last night??

[Double Down]

Brett Favre said it was a "must win."

[BlackLantern]

Brett Favre also said he was retiring a few months ago....so just because Favre says it, makes it so....?

[Double Down]

To the New York media? Maybe.

[Raiden]

I'm listening to WFAN and they are going on about the game last night and how it was a disaster for the Jets...but it really wasn't because San Diego is one of the best teams in the AFC with one of the NFL's premiere players....were people expecting the Jets to win last night??

Well, I think after a loss to Brady-less Pats, and having Favre and other expensive FA they acquired in the offseason, the Jets have high expectations, and they were playing the 0-2 (but very dangerous) Chargers. If they wanted to compete for their division and a playoff spot, then they shouldn't have such a lopsided defeat. Right now their 2nd consecutive losses might be revealing the ugly truth about this team.

[Go Web Go!]

....were people expecting the Jets to win last night??

Every Jet call I've heard on the radio since they acquired Favre is about them being the best thing going on in the league, sudden Super Bowl contenders, the top team in the AFC, so...yes. BUT, I'm glad they didn't. I can't stand them, their ugly green uniforms, and ESPECIALLY their fans.

Choke on another loss, Jets.

[BlackLantern]

the NY media do love their quotes....I think Favre is a week or two away from realizing what a mistake he has made....NY isn't going to blow him like Green Bay did for years...it's like going from screwing Heidi Klum to screwing Ricki Lake

[FaT_tONle]

Every Jet call I've heard on the radio since they acquired Favre is about them being the best thing going on in the league, sudden Super Bowl contenders, the top team in the AFC, so...yes. BUT, I'm glad they didn't. I can't stand them, their ugly green uniforms, and ESPECIALLY their fans.

Choke on another loss, Jets.

Yeah I'd figure... the Dolphins have been the Jets ***ches from 98 on... I'd be a little ticked off if I were a Dolphin fan myself. And no one has been saying the Jets were Superbowl contenders on any certified sports radio station so I don't know what you have been listening to. MANY of their fans are losers though I'll give you that.

[Silver Knight]

http://www.bossip.com/wp-content/uploads/kennyirons.jpg (http://www.bossip.com/10324/fill-in-the-blank-24/kenny-irons-booty-shorts/)
NFL Running Back Kenny Irons, who plays for the Cincinnati Bengals, was photographed showing off an interesting ensemble with the black footies to match.
What the f?

[Go Web Go!]

Yeah I'd figure... the Dolphins have been the Jets ***ches from 98 on... I'd be a little ticked off if I were a Dolphin fan myself. And no one has been saying the Jets were Superbowl contenders on any certified sports radio station so I don't know what you have been listening to.

In Miami, sir. Transplants. There's plenty of them in town, incase you haven't heard...

And yes - they've had Miami's number for the better part of a decade, but that's not going to change the way I feel about them, and what? I'm a fan. They're my team's main rival. I'm entitled to dislike them and their fanbase. Sue me. Are the Red Sox and Yankees going to hate eachother any less when one team has the upperhand for an extended period of time, like the Yanks had for all those years? Give me a break, dude. That's part of being a fan.

[Erzengel]

I thought the Dolphins have been everybody's b'tch? :Huh:

[Go Web Go!]

I thought the Dolphins have been everybody's b'tch? :Huh:

Pretty much...except the Ravens. :oldrazz:

[Immortalfire]

NY isn't going to blow him like Green Bay did for years...it's like going from screwing Heidi Klum to screwing Ricki Lake

:lmao:

[Kaleb]

Pretty much...except the Ravens. :oldrazz:

:cmad::csad:

[Go Web Go!]

:cmad::csad:

HEY! You had your chance! Billick should have gone for a TD in the closing seconds instead of playing for OT against an 0-13 team! :word:

[Dr. Evil]

Rams bench Marc Bulger

[Double Down]

Rams bench Marc Bulger

That's kind of strange. Is he hurt?

[Go Web Go!]

For who?

[Double Down]

It would have to be Trent Green

[Double Down]

Derek Anderson and Matt Schaub are hanging by a string, too.

[Go Web Go!]

Derek Anderson and Matt Schaub are hanging by a string, too.

..and both are in the first year of new contracts. Nice work by the front office guys in Cleveland and Houston.

By the way, is Trent Green really the back-up in St.Louis? I had no clue he was still in the league. I thought he called it a career once Miami cut him loose.

[Immortalfire]

For who?

Vinny Testaverde

[Double Down]

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that Trent Green will take over as the Rams' starting quarterback.

No word if the change is heath related, but we doubt it. Green is not going to save your fantasy season; we'd rather have Kerry Collins. Green knows Al Saunders' system, but he's been a below average quarterback since taking a vicious hit in 2006 and the problems in St. Louis go beyond their quarterback.

[Alpha and Omega]

the NY media do love their quotes....I think Favre is a week or two away from realizing what a mistake he has made....NY isn't going to blow him like Green Bay did for years...it's like going from screwing Heidi Klum to screwing Ricki Lake

:wow: Ouch.

The guys from Mike and Mike seem to agree with you though about Brett's comeback being a short one.

Ricky Lake BL? Ricky Lake? Ha, ha, that's messed up. The Jets D is going to have all kinds of problems if they let Arizona beat them. As usual, the Giants are the best football team in NY.

[Mister J]

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that Trent Green will take over as the Rams' starting quarterback.

No word if the change is heath related, but we doubt it. Green is not going to save your fantasy season; we'd rather have Kerry Collins. Green knows Al Saunders' system, but he's been a below average quarterback since taking a vicious hit in 2006 and the problems in St. Louis go beyond their quarterback.
Oh God.

I was commenting to someone, just yesterday, that I'm glad Trent hung up his cleats; for his the sake of his own health. He won't be happy until he's name able to remember his name. This is just bad.

[Dark Donnie]

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that Trent Green will take over as the Rams' starting quarterback.

No word if the change is heath related, but we doubt it. Green is not going to save your fantasy season; we'd rather have Kerry Collins. Green knows Al Saunders' system, but he's been a below average quarterback since taking a vicious hit in 2006 and the problems in St. Louis go beyond their quarterback.

He has my prayers:
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:csad:

[Dr. Evil]

Well that was $65 million wasted on Bulger.

[Double Down]

I've always thought that Marc Bulger was over-rated, but he's got to be better than Trent Green at this point.

[Double Down]

Rams bench Bulger

By Jim Thomas (JThomas@post-dispatch.com)
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
09/23/2008

The Rams have benched quarterback Marc Bulger and will replace him with Trent Green this week against Buffalo.


Bulger completed 18 of 31 passes for 184 yards and one interception last Sunday in a loss to Seattle.

He is rated 22nd in the league's passer rating system.

The team is 0-3 going into Sunday's home game against the 3-0 Bills.

Green, 38, last started in Week 5 of the 2007 season for the Miami Dolphins in a loss to the Houston Texans. He was 0-5 with Miami.

A native St. Louisan and Vianney High graduate, Green started for the Kansas City Chiefs from 2001 until halfway through the 2006 season, when he was sidelined by injuries.

He was slated to be the Rams' starter in 1999 but suffered a season-ending knee injury in the final preseason game. Unheralded Kurt Warner took over and led the Rams on an improbable run to the Super Bowl championship.

Green also was the Washington Redskins' starter in 1998.

Bulger, 31, took over from Warner as the Rams' starter in 2002. After a stellar 2006 season in which he passed for more than 4,300 yards and 24 TDs with only eight interceptions, Bulger signed a $65 million contract extension that made him the highest-paid player in Rams history.

Playing for a 3-13 team, Bulger had his worst season in 2007 and missed four games because of injuries.

Sacks have taken a heavy toll on Bulger, who has been dropped 97 times in 31 starts from 2006 until now.

Bulger's entire 2008 base salary of $7 million is guaranteed, as is $3 million (of his $6.5 million base) in '09.

[Marx]

Who thinks Jerry Porter will return to action this week in Jacksonville?

[Alex The Great]

Rams bench Bulger?

Didn't see that coming.

Quite a few Fantasy Players just cursed in Unison

[Raiden]

Rams bench Bulger?

Didn't see that coming.

Quite a few Fantasy Players just cursed in Unison

I actually picked up Bulger as my bench QB after Week 1, but I soon dropped him for Matt Cassel (which I'm also dropping due to his unimpressive fantasy numbers). This is just salt on the wound for Rams organization, and I doubt Green will be able to fix the problems they have over in St. Louis.

[Double Down]

My backup QB spot has been a carousel behind Warner. I have cut loose Schaub and Cassel, and brought back O'Sullivan, who I drafted, then cut for Cassel.

[Ace of Knaves]

What happened to Trent Green in 2006 then? Did he take a beast of a hit or summin? Any videos?

[Dr. Evil]

What worse for the Rams?

They could be for sale by the end of the season.

[Kaleb]

I actually picked up Bulger as my bench QB after Week 1, but I soon dropped him for Matt Cassel (which I'm also dropping due to his unimpressive fantasy numbers). This is just salt on the wound for Rams organization, and I doubt Green will be able to fix the problems they have over in St. Louis.

Imo , this is just a band aid move, the most it would do is give tempoary false hope to the rest of the team mates

[Kaleb]

What happened to Trent Green in 2006 then? Did he take a beast of a hit or summin? Any videos?


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[Raiden]

What worse for the Rams?

They could be for sale by the end of the season.

I sait it before and I'll say it again, I hope Rams would go back to LA (or Anaheim). LA is the 2nd biggest market and has no NFL team, and I think a change of scenery may do them some good. And Rams would've stayed in LA, if Georgia (their late owner) wasn't so adament to take the team back to her hometown.

[FaT_tONle]

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that Trent Green will take over as the Rams' starting quarterback.

No word if the change is heath related, but we doubt it. Green is not going to save your fantasy season; we'd rather have Kerry Collins. Green knows Al Saunders' system, but he's been a below average quarterback since taking a vicious hit in 2006 and the problems in St. Louis go beyond their quarterback.

Is this so that Trent Green gets his 18907293847 concussion while Bulger relaxes on the bench? If this is because they are afraid of Bulger getting hurt that is beyond sad... if they bench Bulger it shouldn't be week 4... and they should be playing a young guy... not a concussion waiting to happen.

[FaT_tONle]

In Miami, sir. Transplants. There's plenty of them in town, incase you haven't heard...

And yes - they've had Miami's number for the better part of a decade, but that's not going to change the way I feel about them, and what? I'm a fan. They're my team's main rival. I'm entitled to dislike them and their fanbase. Sue me. Are the Red Sox and Yankees going to hate eachother any less when one team has the upperhand for an extended period of time, like the Yanks had for all those years? Give me a break, dude. That's part of being a fan.

I am just returning the favor as a New Yorker (not really but close enough)... not a Jet fan per say... but the Dolphins are pretty high as far as teams on my ****otry meter though... if I revealed the astericks I'll be banned so I think you get the point. I like Pennington and PArcells gives them credibility my hate for them has diminished somewhat.

[Belvedere]

Is this so that Trent Green gets his 18907293847 concussion while Bulger relaxes on the bench? If this is because they are afraid of Bulger getting hurt that is beyond sad... if they bench Bulger it shouldn't be week 4... and they should be playing a young guy... not a concussion waiting to happen.

Any QB that plays behind the St Louis offensive line could be called this.

[Excel]

Green is still playing?

Wow...seriously, is he ****ing stupid or something? Man this has the makings of a tragedy all over it.

[Go Web Go!]

I am just returning the favor as a New Yorker (not really but close enough)... not a Jet fan per say... but the Dolphins are pretty high as far as teams on my ****otry meter though... if I revealed the astericks I'll be banned so I think you get the point. I like Pennington and PArcells gives them credibility my hate for them has diminished somewhat.

Well, that's ok. I just hope you didn't take my bashing of the Jets and their fans personal, because it's not...maybe a little, but for the most part, it's all in fun.

[Double Down]

Honest to God, ESPN just breathlessly announced the following "breaking news" -- Brett Favre IS going to play Sunday.

[Raiden]

Honest to God, ESPN just breathlessly announced the following "breaking news" -- Brett Favre IS going to play Sunday.

If Favre goes down, so does Jets' season because Clemens is not a competent starting QB. But Jets are 1-2 even with Favre starting, and unless they start improving soon this will become another long season for them.

[Dr. Evil]

An article on the future of the Raiders in Oakland:

http://www.eastbayexpress.com/gyrobase/last_days_of_the_raiders/Content?oid=820946&p

[FaT_tONle]

If Favre goes down, so does Jets' season because Clemens is not a competent starting QB. But Jets are 1-2 even with Favre starting, and unless they start improving soon this will become another long season for them.

I'll be at the Cardinal game... thank God I'll see Farve live once in my life... I hope he plays... but this game is as close to a must win game in September as you can have if you are the Jets.

[Raiden]

I'll be at the Cardinal game... thank God I'll see Farve live once in my life... I hope he plays... but this game is as close to a must win game in September as you can have if you are the Jets.

Exactly. Although the offense is still questionable, I think the defense has even bigger problems. Allowing 48 pts. by Chargers (which has a good but not *the* best offense in NFL, since LT is still not 100%) is just inexcusable.

[Excel]

An article on the future of the Raiders in Oakland:

http://www.eastbayexpress.com/gyrobase/last_days_of_the_raiders/Content?oid=820946&p

The Raiders will be fine, theyve actually looked pretty dman good excluding that monday nighter against Denver. They almost beat Buffalo, who some think could be the AFC's best. Oakland and Atlantas play hve been the biggest positive surprises this season, both tames have looked very improved. The offensive line has looked outstanding and McFadden and Bush have bennefited from it.

Hell, if you were to tell me that, through 3 weeks, Derek Anderson would have 5 ints, Carson Palmer would have 3, but JaMarcuss Russel would have 0, I probably woulda laughed.

[Raiden]

An article on the future of the Raiders in Oakland:

http://www.eastbayexpress.com/gyrobase/last_days_of_the_raiders/Content?oid=820946&p

I found this part to be particularly interesting:

From just about every perspective, the Raiders' move back to Oakland has been a mistake for the organization. Given the team's storied history here, everyone reasonably expected the Raider Nation to swarm back into the Coliseum every Sunday. But according to sports economist David Berri of Southern Utah University, the Raiders have done considerably worse since the move. From 1988 to 1991, attendance at Raiders' games was 96 percent of the NFL average. Since moving back to Oakland, it has dropped to just 85 percent of the league's average. "The Raiders have never done as well as they did in LA," Berri said. "And I would imagine you could charge higher ticket prices in LA"

The Raiders seem to agree. In 2001, Davis lost a $1 billion lawsuit against the NFL in which he sought the right to move the team back to Southern California. Los Angeles, the country's second-biggest media market, a vast city of money, people, and advertising, just happens to have no football team. And thanks to the Raiders' presence there from 1982 to 1994, the team has plenty of Southern California fans. And whereas the fan base of the old LA Raiders was the city's blue-collar, low-rent set, Davis could capture one of the most lucrative suburban markets in the country by moving the team to the Rams' old stomping grounds in Anaheim. Sure, he'd have to build a new stadium, but according to sports economist Victor Matheson, the Raiders could finance such a project at the drop of a hat. "You can certainly get a line of credit to build a stadium," Matheson said. "If you were moving a team to LA knowing the sort of audience you can attract, there are a lot of banks lining up."

I really hope Raiders will return to LA, and I don't think they should've moved back to Oakland in the first place. The decline in attendance from LA to Oakland just demonstrates the debacle.

[FaT_tONle]

L.A Raiders just don't sound right... there is something about the black hole and the Oakland mystique as much as that has fizzled over the last few years. I think New Orleans needs to get out and go to L.A. It's hard to believe they don't have an NFL franchise though.

[Dr. Evil]

Wouldn't it be crazy to see both the Rams and Raiders move back to Los Angeles?

Plus, the possibility of a shiny new stadium for the Chargers in the suburbs.

[Excel]

I find it very surprising they dont either. The market is enormous. L.A. Saints sounds ok, same with LA Raiders. Theyd be better off changing their name, to what I dunno. Los Angeles Stars (?), I dunno.

They do have USC though.

[Raiden]

L.A Raiders just don't sound right... there is something about the black hole and the Oakland mystique as much as that has fizzled over the last few years. I think New Orleans needs to get out and go to L.A. It's hard to believe they don't have an NFL franchise though.

I think LA Raiders sounds fine, unlike Oklahoma City Thunder. And for critics who claimed that LA won't support a NFL team, well they used to have two teams, and fans here enthusiastically support USC football, which is not unlike a pro football team. According to the article, NFL owners wanted to keep LA from having NFL team so they can use the city as a threat and force their own city to finance 400 million new stadium, and I think that's rather despicable.

According to Berri, team owners know this all too well, and have deliberately kept Los Angeles vacant in order to encourage officials in other cities to build them new $400 million stadiums.

"The NFL likes the LA market to stay vacant," Berri said. "Because it's a potential bargaining chip for all the other teams. So a team can go to a city and demand a subsidy, and if you don't give it to us, then we'll go to LA."

[Cmill216]

L.A Raiders just don't sound right...

I kind of agree. Oakland just sounds perfectly Raider-esque.

[Dark Donnie]

2008 Power Rankings: Week 4
RK (LW) TEAM REC COMMENT

1 (1) Cowboys 3-0-0 Two big NFC wins in a row put the Cowboys in the driver's seat. Rivalry game against the Redskins looms. (MM)

2 (3) Giants 3-0-0 I have them pretty much even with the Eagles, but ties aren't allowed. Close call against Bengals will help in long run. (MM)

3 (5) Eagles 2-1-0 They put up points against a solid Cowboys defense and then used a fierce pass rush to slow down the Steelers. We need to see how Brian Westbrook responds to the ankle injury. (MM)

4 (9) Titans 3-0-0 Hardly playing perfect ball, but still 3-0. Some of it's the competition; some of it's a very good football team doing enough to win. Next mission: Slow Adrian Peterson. (PK)

5 (2) Steelers 2-1-0 The Eagles exploited the Steelers' poor pass protection. Things won't get any easier against the Ravens on Monday.

6 (10) Bills 3-0-0 The Bills escaped with a victory despite a shaky performance against the Raiders. They have posted two fourth-quarter comebacks in a row and should cruise to 4-0 Sunday against the Rams. (TG)

7 (11) Broncos 3-0-0 The Broncos survived another tight game. Doubt their next game, at Kansas City, will be as nerve-wracking for the residents of Bronco Country. (BW)

8 (4) Packers 2-1-0 The worst news out of their Sunday night loss to Dallas was CB Al Harris' ruptured spleen. That changes everything. (KS)

9 (13) Chargers 1-2-0 The Chargers put 48 on the Jets on Monday night. That's a good way of avoiding another last-second defeat. (BW)

10 (8) Panthers 2-1-0 Couldn't protect Jake Delhomme enough for him to get the ball to Steve Smith against the Vikings. (PY)

11 (6) Patriots 2-1-0 The season can go south in a hurry if they don't shake off the humilating loss to the Dolphins. The Patriots have lost their mojo without Tom Brady. They better find an infusion from another source straight away. (TG)

12 (7) Colts 1-2-0 Their run defense is not good enough to win with right now, but the Colts keep repeating their mantra: We have to do what we do. Luckily this week, what they do is have a bye. (PK)

13 (17) Buccaneers 2-1-0 At this pace, Jon Gruden will make Brian Griese into a Pro Bowler. (PY)

14 (18) Jaguars 1-2-0 Feeling much better about themselves after a hard-earned win in Indy. Difficult to win regularly if it's that hard, and the solution to that is a couple big pass plays. (PK)

15 (19) Redskins 2-1-0 Huge opportunity Sunday against the Cowboys. Jason Campbell has looked superb in consecutive victories. (MM)

16 (12) Saints 1-2-0 Defensive lapses and injuries have made for a slow start. (PY)

17 (20) Ravens 2-0-0 The Ravens could go 3-0 overall and against the AFC North with a victory Monday at Pittsburgh, a surprising start for a team sporting rookies at coach and QB.

18 (14) Cardinals 2-1-0 The Cardinals' first two turnovers of the season doomed them at Washington. Arizona stays on the East Coast this week for date with Jets. (MS)

19 (21) Vikings 1-2-0 Gus Frerotte is an improvement at quarterback. Now the Vikings have to keep him upright for 14 games. (KS)

20 (15) Bears 1-2-0 The Bears have led all three of their games in the fourth quarter. Good teams know how to finish. (KS)

21 (16) Jets 1-2-0 The bye can't come soon enough for Brett Favre's continuing transition. That won't be until Week 5. He needs a lot more time before he'll look comfortable. (TG)

22 (25) 49ers 2-1-0 Mike Martz has the 49ers believing. The schedule gets tougher, but they are having fun again. (MS)

23 (23) Seahawks 1-2-0 The ground game is rounding into form. The bye week gives Seattle time to get healthier at receiver. (MS)

24 (26) Falcons 2-1-0 The Falcons have shown they can beat bad teams. But they need to show they can play with good teams. (PY)

25 (30) Dolphins 1-2-0 The Dolphins rebounded from an awful performance in Arizona to deliver an epic thumping of the Patriots. It will be a few more weeks before we learn which outing was the aberration. (TG)

26 (22) Browns 0-3-0 Starting QB change worked last season, why not now? Showdown with the Bengals is a must-win.

27 (24) Texans 0-2-0 With a QB controversy brewing, at least on the radio, the Texans can take some solace in their historical ability to give the Jaguars major headaches. (PK)

28 (28) Bengals 0-3-0 Valiant effort at defending SB champion Giants fell short. Showdown with the Browns in Week 4 is a must-win.

29 (27) Raiders 1-2-0 The Raiders are playing hard. And that's half the battle in Oakland these days. (BW)

30 (29) Lions 0-3-0 Bill Ford Jr. wants to fire GM Matt Millen. That's a start. (KS)

31 (31) Chiefs 0-3-0 The Chiefs aren't showing any signs of being a team that is ready to compete to win a game. (BW)

32 (32) Rams 0-3-0 The Rams are on pace to finish with 3,237 yards while allowing 7,307. Enough said. (MS)
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking

[FaT_tONle]

I find it very surprising they dont either. The market is enormous. L.A. Saints sounds ok, same with LA Raiders. Theyd be better off changing their name, to what I dunno. Los Angeles Stars (?), I dunno.

They do have USC though.

New Orleans has LSU. I mean we are talking about L.A here. Saints should definitely go to L.A IMO... move St. Louis to the NFC South. That's the best solution IMO. I don't know when the contract is up but Goodell needs to revisit this... though Raiden makes a good point with the bargaining chip and all.

And the Power Rankings are showing no love to the Broncos... tough when they have beaten decent teams thus far... barely though.

[Excel]

The Titans are shockingly similar to the 2000 Ravens.

[Franklin Richards]

San Antonio should get the Saints.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[Excel]

They should be 2-1.

[Erzengel]

NFC East owning the NFL at this point.

10 - 2 record with the 2 loses only against other NFC East teams.

[FaT_tONle]

Whoever wins the division is irrelevant... because in the divisional round the wild cards will in all likeyhood come from the East and they'll have a chance to get revenge in the playoffs albeit on the road. That's why you hope if you are a fan of one of these teams that you run out of gas by January like Dallas did.

[Alex The Great]

The Buffalo Bills scare me :csad:

[Erzengel]

The Bills are definitely a dark horse. They should be 4 - 0 by the end of Week 4.

[Alex The Great]

Indeed.



They might go 11-5/12-4 looking at the rest of the season
Obviosly my prediction is probably crap so.....

But wow, Bills to the AFC championship, then losing to the Broncos (unlikely) or Steelers?

Bills or Steelers vs Cowboys in Superbowl?

[Erzengel]

Unless the Steelers does something with their offensive line, it's probably going to be the Bills.