2008 NFL Thread

[Alex The Great]

If someone told me the Bills would make the Superbowl this year Before this season started, I would have punched there jaw.

[Erzengel]

Well it's still a bit early to talk about the "collapse" of the AFC. Several teams can still turn it around.

[Spider-Fan]

Eh, I don't think the Bills will make the SB. They're good, but not quite that good. Right now, I am more impressed with the Broncos.

[Alex The Great]

Eh, I don't think the Bills will make the SB. They're good, but not quite that good. Right now, I am more impressed with the Broncos.
they aint going to the top with THAT Defense

[FaT_tONle]

An experienced SD/Pitt/Jag/Indy team can easily go in there and knock the Bills/Broncos off... it's week 4 people. Let's see those teams go 7-2, 9-3 before we call them Superbowl contenders.

[Showtime]

I think the Bills look good, but I'm not sold yet. Definately the best team in the AFC East now though.

[Alex The Great]

They let you on the internet in the Hospital?

[Excel]

I still think the Pats are the best team. Ronnie Brown was the NFLs best running back last year when healthy (and I can fondly remember telling everybody here how good he was). That and it isnt like they beat us normally. The Dolphins using a buncha trick plays to beat us is alarming, but not THAT bad.

Besides, we soundly beat the Jets, who BEAT the Dolphins.

Im not worried. Not yet, anyways.

Lets be serious, the Bills were THIS close to losing to the Raiders. Edwards and their dline looked sharp, but I dont see them having anything on the Jets who we had no trouble beating.

[Franklin Richards]

I still think the Pats are the best team.

Bwahahahaha!!!!!

Kiss my butt!

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[Alex The Great]

I still think the Pats are the best team.
:dry:

Please do not judge all Patriots fans by this human being....

[NewYorkSpider]

The Pats will turn it around after the bye, but I just can't see them winning the divison now.

[Excel]

I see the Pats having an extremely uneven season:

Sun 9/7 Kansas City
Sun 9/14 at NY Jets
Sun 9/21 Miami
Sun 10/5 at San Francisco
Sun 10/12 at San Diego
Mon 10/20 Denver
Sun 10/26 St. Louis
Sun 11/2 at Indianapolis
Sun 11/9 Buffalo
Thu 11/13 NY Jets
Sun 11/23 at Miami
Sun 11/30 Pittsburgh
Sun 12/7 at Seattle
Sun 12/14 at Oakland
Sun 12/21 Arizona
Sun 12/28 at Buffalo

11-5, go on a tear late in season and through playoffs led by defense and running game with the occasional play action bomb to #81 :up:

[Alex The Great]

oy.

[Excel]

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[Poeman]

Sun 10/5 at San Francisco- Loss
Sun 10/12 at San Diego- Loss
Mon 10/20 Denver- Loss
Sun 10/26 St. Louis- Win
Sun 11/2 at Indianapolis- Loss
Sun 11/9 Buffalo- Loss
Thu 11/13 NY Jets- Loss
Sun 11/23 at Miami- Win
Sun 11/30 Pittsburgh- Loss
Sun 12/7 at Seattle- Win
Sun 12/14 at Oakland- Win
Sun 12/21 Arizona- Loss
Sun 12/28 at Buffalo- Loss

8-8

[Poeman]

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roddy white is helping me win my fantasy league so far

[NewYorkSpider]

Winning against Denver? You couldn't even stop Miami's offense. :dry:


Plus, the Patriots always have trouble against Denver.

[Franklin Richards]

Because that's NOT excessive celebrating and acting like you're running a sprint is.


Un-friggin-believable.


:doom: :doom: :doom:

[Excel]

Winning against Denver? You couldn't even stop Miami's offense. :dry:


Plus, the Patriots always have trouble against Denver.

Miamis offense beat us a bunch of trick plays. Theres a reason the Phins lost to the Jets, who we beat. I have not been that impressed with the Broncos outside of Cutler and Marshall. I see a 27-17 win or something like that for the Pats. I see our dline shutting down Cutler (and therefore, Marshall) for the most part while we control the clock and tempo. Its Monday Night Football at Denver, and we'll be 3-2, 2nd in our division, and be the underdogs by a lot. I see it as a statement game, not a joke like they clearly thought Miami was.

This is all assuming they go the direction they need with their gameplan; a direction I do think their going.

[Go Web Go!]

The Titans are shockingly similar to the 2000 Ravens.

Crazy taaalk :csad:

[Dr. Evil]

of course Roddy White is doing well, he finally has someone to throw to him. I've always thought he was going to be a good player, it's just that he's has nobody to throw to him the last four seasons.

[Nightmare]

Trent Green will lead the rams back to Glory!!! :up:

[Excel]

he shoulda been a probowler last year

[The Game]

Whats the update on Ben roffleburger?

[Go Web Go!]

Time for a long-overdue celebration, Lions fans - Matt Millen is OUTTT

[Dark Donnie]

hahaha they call Matt Millen's time as GM the "Reign of Error"

[Mister J]

I can't believe Millen lasted 8 years.
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Giants Suspend Plexiglass For One Game; Violation of Team Rules (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3606150)

[Go Web Go!]

Millen and Wannstedt should meet for a drink somewhere. Maybe have a nice discussion about mustaches and how they were failures at what they did in the NFL. ;)

[Immortalfire]

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[Ace of Knaves]

yo immotal you a falcons fan? i thought i was the only one here!!

[bunk]

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Levicorpus! haha

[Kelly]

Its always fun to see guys get that excited, but they are REALLY STUPID doing that kind of stuff....

Drew Pearson (Dallas Cowboy) broke an ankle and screwed up playoffs doing a stupid stunt like that.....BUT its still fun to watch.

[Raiden]

I still think the Pats are the best team. Ronnie Brown was the NFLs best running back last year when healthy (and I can fondly remember telling everybody here how good he was). That and it isnt like they beat us normally. The Dolphins using a buncha trick plays to beat us is alarming, but not THAT bad.

Besides, we soundly beat the Jets, who BEAT the Dolphins.

Im not worried. Not yet, anyways.

Lets be serious, the Bills were THIS close to losing to the Raiders. Edwards and their dline looked sharp, but I dont see them having anything on the Jets who we had no trouble beating.

Pats is not the best team. How can you say that with Matt Cassel as their QB, and NFL teams rise and fall with their QB? And against the 'Fins, Pats' defense showed their age and just because they beat up two lousy teams (Chiefs and Jets) doesn't make them legit.

[BlackLantern]

the Pats D is not used to having to work that hard

[StorminNorman]

I still think the Pats are the best team. Ronnie Brown was the NFLs best running back last year when healthy (and I can fondly remember telling everybody here how good he was). That and it isnt like they beat us normally. The Dolphins using a buncha trick plays to beat us is alarming, but not THAT bad.

Besides, we soundly beat the Jets, who BEAT the Dolphins.

Im not worried. Not yet, anyways.

Lets be serious, the Bills were THIS close to losing to the Raiders. Edwards and their dline looked sharp, but I dont see them having anything on the Jets who we had no trouble beating.

But the Pats DID loose to the Dolphins - a team arguably worse than the Raiders.

The Bills will destroy the Jets.

[Raiden]

the Pats D is not used to having to work that hard

Against Chad Pennington and Ron Brown? :huh:

[Kelly]

If Favre goes down, so does Jets' season because Clemens is not a competent starting QB. But Jets are 1-2 even with Favre starting, and unless they start improving soon this will become another long season for them.

Meh, its a rolled ankle, they'll wrap it tight, and he'll play.....he's played with worse.

[Raiden]

Meh, its a rolled ankle, they'll wrap it tight, and he'll play.....he's played with worse.

Favre will play, but Jets are playing against Bills who has a better D than Chargers, so I forseen another long day for Favre and the Jets.

[BlackLantern]

Against Chad Pennington and Ron Brown? :huh:

Usually the offense scores at well and that will get the D pumped up when they come out on the field....that isn't happening anymore and it has an effect

[Kelly]

Favre will play, but Jets are playing against Bills who has a better D than Chargers, so I forseen another long day for Favre and the Jets.


I didn't say he'd win, I said he'd play........:cwink:

[Go Web Go!]

Usually the offense scores at well and that will get the D pumped up when they come out on the field....that isn't happening anymore and it has an effect

Oh, come on. A defense stacked with veterans who've been to numerous Super Bowl's do not need an offense to "pump" them up. Yes, it may occasionally give a team a much needed boost, but the Patriots are way beyond that.

[Kelly]

Oh, come on. A defense stacked with veterans who've been to numerous Super Bowl's do not need an offense to "pump" them up. Yes, it may occasionally give a team a much needed boost, but the Patriots are way beyond that.

As the Pats coach said....


They were out coached, and out played.......simple as that.

We will see if that continues.....

The only thing that matters at the moment, is their next game.

[Erzengel]

SF has a tough schedule coming up next with the Patriots, Eagles then the Giants.

[BlackLantern]

Oh, come on. A defense stacked with veterans who've been to numerous Super Bowl's do not need an offense to "pump" them up. Yes, it may occasionally give a team a much needed boost, but the Patriots are way beyond that.

Doesn't look that way.....

[Erzengel]

Half those players on the Patriots D line haven't been to the Superbowl multiple times.

[BlackLantern]

if anything, if the Pats D was half as great as its fans think it is, they should be carrying the team like Baltimore did in their SB winning season....

[Go Web Go!]

Half those players on the Patriots D line haven't been to the Superbowl multiple times.

I'm not talking about the defensive line. I'm talking about the entire defensive unit. If they haven't been to multiple Super Bowls like Harrison or Bruschi, then they've at least been to *A* Super Bowl, unless this is their first year with the team.

[Double Down]

I read that the Patriots may be going after AJ Feeley.

[Zephyr Alexian]

Him over Chris Simms? I think that they might regret giving him a chance. Out of the available candidates, he seemed like the guy who could win ball games for them as opposed to simply managing the clock.

[BlackLantern]

Feeley filled in nicely for McNabb when he was there

[Double Down]

Feeley likely won't win or lose any games for you at QB, it would be up to the rest of the team. That might be good enough for the Pats.

[Dark Donnie]

Joey Harrington got cut again

[Ace of Knaves]

Joey Harrington couldn't throw his way out of a paper bag

[BlackLantern]

Joey Harrington couldn't throw his way out of a paper bag

a wet one?

[Ace of Knaves]

LOL. Any type of bag, infact i don't think he could throw his way out of a imaginary bag.

[Zephyr Alexian]

Feeley filled in nicely for McNabb when he was there

That's true, but he won't give you a chance in a tight 4th quarter game. He's effective when he gets the early lead and his team can play the clock.

[kane9321]

SF has a tough schedule coming up next with the Patriots, Eagles then the Giants.

if we can go 2-2 for the next 4 games.that would be great

[Go Web Go!]

Feeley filled in nicely for McNabb when he was there

...and failed miserably down here. I still can't believe they gave Philadelphia 2nd round pick for the guy. Ugh.

[Dark Donnie]

Plax retaliates with grievance against Giants

Plaxico Burress has filed a grievance with the NFL against the Giants for suspending him one game and docking him two weeks of pay.

T.O. II? Their hard-line stance with Burress is admirable, especially after just giving him a new contract, but the Giants may need to back down a bit. They can afford the missed game at 3-0, but will certainly need Burress to defend their title in the NFL's most difficult division. Agent Drew Rosenhaus says his client was tending to a family matter when he missed a team meeting and intends to get Burress reinstated after the Giants' bye. Sep. 24 - 1:53 pm et
Source: NFL.com

[Silver Knight]

Joey Harrington got cut again
Dude needs to retire pronto.

[Poeman]

Lions win the superbowl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Erzengel]

Source: NFL.com
You can't let a player get "bigger" than a team.

Family issues could be him getting drunk with his cousins. I think they can be without him against Seattle.

I think the Giants should take a stance on this.

[Excel]

AJ Feely would probably be smart enough to through it in Randys direction a bit more often. :o

But the Pats DID loose to the Dolphins - a team arguably worse than the Raiders.

The Bills will destroy the Jets.

Bills will crush Jets, that game will be :lamo: . I would say the Pats loss to Miami was more of a fluke then Oakland almost beating Buffalo, then again Oaklands looked pretty good the last 2 weeks. I am intrigued at the idea of this week Oakland-San Diego game.

Pats is not the best team. How can you say that with Matt Cassel as their QB, and NFL teams rise and fall with their QB? And against the 'Fins, Pats' defense showed their age and just because they beat up two lousy teams (Chiefs and Jets) doesn't make them legit.

1st of all, the Jets BEAT the Dolphins. We soundly beat the jets. I would Miami beating us was a much bigger fluke them the Jets beating the Dolphins.

Cassel has to get his **** together, I never bought into the "Cassel can do it" syndrome, I bought into the "He wont have to" but if we go in with an idiotic gameplan ala last week/if Maroney or Moss have to miss significant time, we are in major trouble. But thats a huuuuge if.

[Excel]

Rumor: Pats playing big joke on league...

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=f0f4b5c4-a944-49fd-8d04-3267707604d0

Not on IR yet either. Possible playoff return??

[Immortalfire]

Michael Turner named NFC offensive player of the week :up:

[Go Web Go!]

AJ Feely would probably be smart enough to through it in Randys direction a bit more often. :o

1st of all, the Jets BEAT the Dolphins. We soundly beat the jets. I would Miami beating us was a much bigger fluke them the Jets beating the Dolphins.


1. He would throw touchdowns...to the other team.

2. You can call it a fluke if it's by a field goal or a last second victory, but Miami put an ol' fashioned take-you-out-to-the-tool-shed beating on the Pats, and it's no coincidence that even throughout their various Super Bowl runs, the Dolphins have given the Patriots a tough time when they meet. Even Brady has said so.

[Double Down]

Brian Griese threw 67 passes vs. the Bears Sunday and was never sacked. Great job by the O line.

[Excel]

Frank Gore and Reggie Bush might both go 1000/1000.

[Showtime]

Rumor: Pats playing big joke on league...

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=f0f4b5c4-a944-49fd-8d04-3267707604d0

Not on IR yet either. Possible playoff return??

What do you mean he isn't on the IR? :huh:

[FaT_tONle]

What do you mean he isn't on the IR? :huh:

I don't know what is true... but I believe you only have like what... 48 guys on the active roster for game day... so it's not like you absolutely have to kill a position up ASAP if a player on that roster goes on IR... only if you have a pressing need somewhere. Wouldn't be a big deal... but you don't recover from an ACL/MCL tear in a few months that's fo sure...

[Excel]

Not according to the Globe. I thought he was the move that let Faulk come back, but appearently not.

[Showtime]

I don't know what is true... but I believe you only have like what... 48 guys on the active roster for game day... so it's not like you absolutely have to kill a position up ASAP if a player on that roster goes on IR... only if you have a pressing need somewhere. Wouldn't be a big deal... but you don't recover from an ACL/MCL tear in a few months that's fo sure...

No doubt about it. I could have sworn it was already said he was on the IR though?

Not according to the Globe. I thought he was the move that let Faulk come back, but appearently not.

I'm confused. I thought it was official that he was on the IR?

[Dark Donnie]

Brady was put on IR officially on Sept 8th

[BlackLantern]

Brady tore an MCL and an ACL...anyone who isn't retarded knows he is NOT coming back this season, whether he is on IR or not is a non-story....he hasn't even had surgery yet to repair the damage

[Dr. Evil]

Saints release Joey Harrington.

[Go Web Go!]

Somebody's going to give him a call. Maybe KC.

[Alpha and Omega]

Herman Edwards can't be that hard up. I don't know; maybe you're right.

[Nightmare]

Saints release Joey Harrington.

Maybe he'll fall into abyss now. Millen Picked up #3 overall in 2001 draft right? :hehe:

[Double Down]

Millen and Harrington lost their jobs on the same day.

[Alpha and Omega]

Brady tore an MCL and an ACL...anyone who isn't retarded knows he is NOT coming back this season, whether he is on IR or not is a non-story....he hasn't even had surgery yet to repair the damage

Oh definitely. I partially tore my ACL last November and I still haven't fully recovered from it. I've rehabbed, but it takes over a year to get back to full strength, although 100% isn't guaranteed. Brady may not be back until next October.

[Excel]

Ima miss you Troy

[Go Web Go!]

Roscoe Parrish is out 4-6 weeks with a thumb injury.

That's a pretty big blow to the suddenly trendy SB pick.

[Excel]

Time for James Hardy

[Kaleb]

Coaches are pretty down on James Hardy aparently ( attitude problem ? )

[Excel]

Possibly; a bit raw for 2nd round pick. But he is a young Plax clone.

[Kelly]

Rumor: Pats playing big joke on league...

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=f0f4b5c4-a944-49fd-8d04-3267707604d0

Not on IR yet either. Possible playoff return??

Ya gotta get to the playoffs first.

[Ace of Knaves]

How do you boys think the Falcons will do this week? Do you reckon Turner will roll again? I'm not to familier with Carolinas defense.

[BlackLantern]

Carolinas D is spotty at best....Turner should have a productive game

[Kaleb]

Tuirner is gaurenteed at least 20+ touches so yeah I like his chances to at least score once.

[Zephyr Alexian]

Carolinas D is spotty at best....Turner should have a productive game

Don't count Peppers and co. out just yet; they'll get it together.

[Double Down]

I don't like Atlanta on the road.

[Kaleb]

8V-GKOkiEAA

what a catch :wow:

[Dark Donnie]

Cromartie x2

[Excel]

I like Norwood and Roddy to top Carolina

[NewYorkSpider]

Atlanta has a pretty good team. Should be a good game on Sunday.

[Go Web Go!]

Why all this hype over Atlanta all of a sudden? Yes, Michael Turner is pretty damn good at what he does. Yes, Ryan has been impressive, but both of their wins are against KC and Detroit! Those are the worst 2 teams in the NFL!

[Excel]

Outside of week 1, turner hasnt been that great.

[Alex The Great]

Roscoe Parrish is out 4-6 weeks with a thumb injury.

That's a pretty big blow to the suddenly trendy SB pick.
Damn. But they have a good Special teams returning peoples so.....

But he'll be back....

[Excel]

Pats got Buff.

[Alex The Great]

wait what?

This Years Bills > This Years Patriots :yay:

[Excel]

Nope.

[Alex The Great]

Yep

Trent Edwards > Matt Cassle

Sure he has a great bunch of Receivers. But The WR's can't get the ball if the QB is on the gorund being sacked. Our OL is rather crappish.

[Excel]

Our oline will be fine.

Our running game will open up our passing game, out defense will be fine. Cassel will be fine, he has looked bad because our oline has struggled when they throw the kitchen sink at him.

It can all be fixed and will be.

[Alex The Great]

sigh

[Excel]

Sigh all you want, gtfo the bandwagon.

[Alex The Great]

sigh



I wish i was a mod and put a Miami Dolphins pic in your post :o

[Excel]

quit playing, I said Miami would be good this year.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea but you have to make sure you beat the team that your expected to, they lost to Bucs yea but the last win could instill confidence in them to beat a better team like Carolina.

[Immortalfire]

Why all this hype over Atlanta all of a sudden? Yes, Michael Turner is pretty damn good at what he does. Yes, Ryan has been impressive, but both of their wins are against KC and Detroit! Those are the worst 2 teams in the NFL!

Odd as it may sound, that actually is a sign of hope. Had Vick still been here, we would have found a way to lose to KC and Detroit.

[Ace of Knaves]

Wasn't Vicks win percentage like 70% or summin? That ain't too bad.

[Immortalfire]

Maybe, but he still had a way of blowing it against bad teams.

[Ace of Knaves]

I suppose. Vick was a great player though, even if he was a arsehole off the field.

[Go Web Go!]

I wouldn't say great, but a lot of teams would take him over what they have right now under center.

[FaT_tONle]

The whole new generation of running QB's in this league is as good as dead... first Vick flushes himself down the toilet... not that he was any good in the first place... now guys like Tavaris Jackson who can't get out of their own way. Vince Young who has been in this league for like 3 years who is already completely broken down mentally. The media played it out like we were going to get this revolution at the QB position... not to be.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea he didn't really put up good stat lines every week, but he could just make things happen out of the blue. I remember seeing against the Vikings he ran between the Corner and Safety and they smashed into each other, it was sickening.

[Go Web Go!]

He's out of the slammer next year. I wouldnn't be surprised if there were a handful of teams that make a run at him, presuming the Falcons release him.

[Dark Donnie]

The whole new generation of running QB's in this league is as good as dead... first Vick flushes himself down the toilet... not that he was any good in the first place... now guys like Tavaris Jackson who can't get out of their own way. Vince Young who has been in this league for like 3 years who is already completely broken down mentally. The media played it out like we were going to get this revolution at the QB position... not to be.

Tavaris Jackson should have never been starting in the first place. He was a project QB from the start. Vince Young was always questioned, out of college the big knock was his throwing style, but that BCS caused his stock to rise.

[BlackLantern]

No team wants the bad publicity...I bet PETA or some organization will protest any team he goes to....I wouldn't want to deal with that crap.....and honestly, IMO, he should be banned from the NFL

[Ace of Knaves]

Why should Vick be banned and Ray Lewis or La'Roi Glover not be?

[BlackLantern]

as for Ray Lewis, he was never convicted and I don't think anyone really knows what happened in that situation....He was there...playing in the NFL is a privilege, not a right...and as such, you are held to a higher standard as a person and as an athlete...if the NFL refuses to take any action against Michael Vick, they are indirectly endorsing what he did...

[Dark Donnie]

What happened with La'roi Glover?

[BlackLantern]

and Ray Lewis was a one time incident, he has not been involved in any legal issue since then...Michael Vick was funding a CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE

[DeaDheaD]

If Leonard Little, Pacman, and the entire Cowboys roster 90'-95' is able to play in the NFL, I don't see why Michael Vick wouldn't be allowed to come back.

[Ace of Knaves]

and Ray Lewis was a one time incident, he has not been involved in any legal issue since then...Michael Vick was funding a CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE


Yea but Ray Lewis and his buddies beat a man to death didn't they? He probly only got off because he testified against his so called buddies.

Michael Vick is guilty of nothing more than being stupid. His old buddies from Newport News probly just used him for money and a place to stage the fights.

[Ace of Knaves]

What happened with La'roi Glover?


Sorry I meant Leonard Little.

[ih8nyy]

Question: How does WR Matt Jones from Jacksonville not get suspended by the NFL for getting caught by cops in July cutting up blow in his car and Kevin Faulk gets caught with a blunt, doesn't get arrested, tests negative for marijuana use 2 days later and still gets suspended for one game?

With that said. Michael Vick will get a 2nd chance in the NFL.
You know Al Davis is just waiting for him.

[Go Web Go!]

I don't like Vick. I don't like what he did, but why shouldn't he get another chance in the NFL? He would have done his time. It may upset quite a few fans around the league and no doubt, the fools from PETA, but this is a guy that (though overrated) was considered one of the better QB's in the NFL. You don't think a team's like KC, Detroit, among others, would be very interested in giving the guy, at the very least, a shot at making the team? Yes, there's going to be some major backlash comes with it signing Vick, but if it leads to winning? There are going to be very few people in the organization or fans of the team that care.

[BlackLantern]

...and if it doesn't lead to winning.....is all the backlash worth it then?

[Go Web Go!]

I don't see why not. What's the worst that can happen? You upset a few fans? People picket outside your stadium? Maybe I'm just one of the few that wouldn't have a problem with it.

[Belvedere]

I think Vick should be allowed to play, what he did was stupid but once he's served his time he's repaid his debt to community (even though he's got a stack of tangible debts waiting for him once he's out).

[ih8nyy]

...and if it doesn't lead to winning.....is all the backlash worth it then?

True, this could turn into a Barry Bonds like situation. A ton of teams could have used his bat this year, but decided it was better to go in a different direction.

[ih8nyy]

I think Vick should be allowed to play, what he did was stupid but once he's served his time he's repaid his debt to community (even though he's got a stack of tangible debts waiting for him once he's out).

All the more reason for him to try and play. Gotta pay up on those bills.

[Kelly]

Let Vick walk on and work for the position like everyone else. If he deserves the top seat give it to him.......if not send him packing. I wouldn't keep him on as a benchwarmer......that IMO, is where the backlash is not worth it, but if he's good enough to start, let him start.

[ih8nyy]

Let Vick walk on and work for the position like everyone else. If he deserves the top seat give it to him.......if not send him packing. I wouldn't keep him on as a benchwarmer......that IMO, is where the backlash is not worth it, but if he's good enough to start, let him start.

I don't think it would cost a team much to bring him in either. Just the veteran minimum which is like $850,000. And since it is not guaranteed, if it doesn't work out so be it.

A buddy of mine was invited to the Pats camp for the veteran minimum along with a $40,000 signing bonus. Of course he got cut 2 weeks later, so $40,000 for two weeks of work isn't too bad. I am sure any team would give Vick a signing bonus like that and if it isn't in the cards, they can cut their loses with minimal damage to the cap #.

[FaT_tONle]

I don't like Vick. I don't like what he did, but why shouldn't he get another chance in the NFL? He would have done his time. It may upset quite a few fans around the league and no doubt, the fools from PETA, but this is a guy that (though overrated) was considered one of the better QB's in the NFL. You don't think a team's like KC, Detroit, among others, would be very interested in giving the guy, at the very least, a shot at making the team? Yes, there's going to be some major backlash comes with it signing Vick, but if it leads to winning? There are going to be very few people in the organization or fans of the team that care.

He won't even make an NFL roster...

[Go Web Go!]

True, this could turn into a Barry Bonds like situation. A ton of teams could have used his bat this year, but decided it was better to go in a different direction.

Well, Bonds is a whole other situation. The guy has a ton hanging over his head in terms of possible court dates, jail time, etc. Vick would have done his time and (hopefully) wouldn't have any more issues pending.

He won't even make an NFL roster...

Care to explain?

[BlackLantern]

True, this could turn into a Barry Bonds like situation. A ton of teams could have used his bat this year, but decided it was better to go in a different direction.

...and words cannot describe how happy that made me this season

[Excel]

Vick will be the cowboys return man

[Franklin Richards]

So Jay Novacek can be a rodeo man. Sarah Palin can field dress a moose. But Michael Vick can't have dog fights?

Hypocrisy thy name is man.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[BlackLantern]

So Jay Novacek can be a rodeo man. Sarah Palin can field dress a moose. But Michael Vick can't have dog fights?

Hypocrisy thy name is man.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

I don't support hunting anyway....unless you are using EVERY single bit of that animal....and dogfighting is a FEDERAL offense now....so Vick can work at Winn-Dixie for the rest of his life for all i care

[Franklin Richards]

I'm not really for dog fighting. I'm just against hypocrisy. And you're right about Vick. I was hoping he would wait tables. That oughta teach him.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[FaT_tONle]

Care to explain?

You think he will be in football shape when he gets out? You think the speed will still be there? The guy is finished... he'll be lucky if he gets a phone call.

[BlackLantern]

2 years in jail...and he will probably have more time to serve as the state of Virginia has yet to levy charges...

[Immortalfire]

Yeah, I doubt the law is finished with him yet.

[Double Down]

How about Lane Kiffin for Scott Linehan, straight up?

[BlackLantern]

Lane is a good coach and he is smart to make Al Davis fire him if it comes to that

[Double Down]

I think Kiffin has a bright future. Linehan does not.

[Immortalfire]

Lane is a good coach and he is smart to make Al Davis fire him if it comes to that

I like how Kiffin refuses to play Al's game.

Al: "Here, sign this note of resignation."
Lane: "No."
Al: "I'll fire you!"
Lane: "Yeah, go ahead."
Al: "Uh...maybe later."

[Double Down]

Guaranteed contracts are a wonderful thing.

[BlackLantern]

Lane Kiffin = Bugs Bunny

Al Davis = Elmer Fudd with a carrot stuck in his gun barrel

[Franklin Richards]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/AuntPetunia/dirty-skunk-season.jpg


:doom: :doom: :doom:

[Immortalfire]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/AuntPetunia/dirty-skunk-season.jpg


:doom: :doom: :doom:

DW3jfppdGLY

[Alex The Great]

Mee is Lane Kiffin? :huh::csad:

[Go Web Go!]

You think he will be in football shape when he gets out? You think the speed will still be there? The guy is finished... he'll be lucky if he gets a phone call.

Whether or not there are more charges awaiting him when he's released is besides the point. Let's say he's a free man and is reinstated by dictator Fidel Goodell. You don't think there is ONE team out of 32 that may have even the slightest interest in trying him out? Not signing him to a deal. Trying him out.

Sure, he may not be the same Michael Vick that can scramble from one endzne to the other, but he's not going to lose his speed or skill. Especially when (according to various reports) he's still keeping active in the yard. I know it' not the same situation, but Ricky Williams...retires. Comes back 1 year & a half/2 years later. Not what he once was, but is effective/serviceable.

[Cmill216]

Michael Vick will be a starting QB in the NFL again.

Quote me.

[Alex The Great]

Chiefs will be intrested?

[BlackLantern]

Whether or not there are more charges awaiting him when he's released is besides the point. Let's say he's a free man and is reinstated by dictator Fidel Goodell. You don't think there is ONE team out of 32 that may have even the slightest interest in trying him out? Not signing him to a deal. Trying him out.

Sure, he may not be the same Michael Vick that can scramble from one endzne to the other, but he's not going to lose his speed or skill. Especially when (according to various reports) he's still keeping active in the yard. I know it' not the same situation, but Ricky Williams...retires. Comes back 1 year & a half/2 years later. Not what he once was, but is effective/serviceable.

You don't insult The Hammer...people are just cranky because, unlike Tagliabue, who was more concerned with having NFL games everywhere from Alaska to Africa, is actually holding people accountable for their actions.....don't walk into strip clubs and throw money around, don't punch strippers in the face, don't drive a boat drunk, don't fight dogs....it's not that difficult...

[Go Web Go!]

Quote me.

Now what?













:woot:

[Badger]

Michael Vick will be a starting QB in the NFL again.

Quote me.

Yeah, he's alrighty thrown for 1,000 yards and 10 TD's for the Leavenworth C Block Pitbulls.

[Alex The Great]

GWG insulted THE Hammer:huh:

[Badger]

Chiefs will be intrested?

Well, he's only a short car ride away. Maybe he could get a work release.

[Go Web Go!]

GWG insulted THE Hammer:huh:

Mariano Rivera?

:huh:

[Alex The Great]

Roger Goodel, damn it.

[Alex The Great]

And with the 10th pick, the New England Patriots Select....:csad:


I'm surprised we haven't called up Daunte :huh:

[FaT_tONle]

Whether or not there are more charges awaiting him when he's released is besides the point. Let's say he's a free man and is reinstated by dictator Fidel Goodell. You don't think there is ONE team out of 32 that may have even the slightest interest in trying him out? Not signing him to a deal. Trying him out.

Sure, he may not be the same Michael Vick that can scramble from one endzne to the other, but he's not going to lose his speed or skill. Especially when (according to various reports) he's still keeping active in the yard. I know it' not the same situation, but Ricky Williams...retires. Comes back 1 year & a half/2 years later. Not what he once was, but is effective/serviceable.

You are absolutely right... Jerry will tell him to come down to the Ranch... they'll sign him at the minimum... he'll be a back up corner/receiver that works on the special teams unit... and he'll be cut a week later.

Michael Vick will be a starting QB in the NFL again.

Quote me.

Yeah the Bucs will be first in line.

[Franklin Richards]

DW3jfppdGLY

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/AuntPetunia/toeye.gif


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/AuntPetunia/captainamerica.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/AuntPetunia/captainamerica.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/AuntPetunia/captainamerica.gif

[Alex The Great]

I want him dead

[Dr. Evil]

COULD MILLEN LAND IN OAKLAND?
Posted by Michael David Smith on September 27, 2008, 5:54 p.m. EDT

It sounds like a joke, the idea that Matt Millen could finally stop running the Detroit Lions into the ground and then move on to another dysfunctional franchise.

But it might make sense that an owner who gets to work at 4:30 in the afternoon would think that Millen is a good fit.

Our friend Todd Wright of Sporting News Radio reports that people in the know say Raiders owner Al Davis thinks very highly of Millen, who played for the Raiders from 1980 to 1988. In fact, Davis keeps in such close contact with Millen that he actually talks more to Millen than he does to most of the people who work for the Raiders.

Davis is such a loose cannon that it’s impossible to predict what might happen with the Raiders in 2009, other than to say that Lane Kiffin will not be the head coach. But Millen’s job prospects are limited because he would be hard to take seriously as a TV commentator, so if he wants to keep working in football, he might need to find an NFL owner willing to employ him.

And that means Davis and Millen might just be perfect for each other. Which is about as big an insult as you can give to either of them.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/09/27/could-millen-land-in-oakland/

[Mee]

Mee is Lane Kiffin? :huh::csad:
Or...

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=290876&highlight=romo

[Alex The Great]

COULD MILLEN LAND IN OAKLAND?
Posted by Michael David Smith on September 27, 2008, 5:54 p.m. EDT

It sounds like a joke, the idea that Matt Millen could finally stop running the Detroit Lions into the ground and then move on to another dysfunctional franchise.

But it might make sense that an owner who gets to work at 4:30 in the afternoon would think that Millen is a good fit.

Our friend Todd Wright of Sporting News Radio reports that people in the know say Raiders owner Al Davis thinks very highly of Millen, who played for the Raiders from 1980 to 1988. In fact, Davis keeps in such close contact with Millen that he actually talks more to Millen than he does to most of the people who work for the Raiders.

Davis is such a loose cannon that it’s impossible to predict what might happen with the Raiders in 2009, other than to say that Lane Kiffin will not be the head coach. But Millen’s job prospects are limited because he would be hard to take seriously as a TV commentator, so if he wants to keep working in football, he might need to find an NFL owner willing to employ him.

And that means Davis and Millen might just be perfect for each other. Which is about as big an insult as you can give to either of them.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/09/27/could-millen-land-in-oakland/
Al Davis and Millen? Together? [Oakland Raiders Fans]NO!!!!!!!!! *Jumps off tall building*[/Oakland Raiders Fans]

[Mee]

Haha, it's like Al Davis is trying to sabatoge the team.

[Dr. Evil]

Yeah the Bucs will be first in line.

One more couldn't hurt. It would increase the number of QB's they have to 74.

[FaT_tONle]

The NFL season is really dead these days. I mean we are still on Millen and Al Davis??? I get that the baseball usually takes the front seat this time of year... but if you just look at the matchups these next few weeks it's gonna be pretty brutal as a fan. The Pats and Colts were obviously the stories last year... with both teams struggling it's going to be quite boring. It was fun with those two teams at the top. Denver is exciting but they are a small market team as is Buffalo. And Cutler is no where near that Peyton Manning status. Pittsburg is brutal to watch... the Ravens... the Titans... the Jags... all meh meh and more meh... even Farve has failed to entertain as his offense continues to sputter although I think the Jets will turn it around. The only teams worth watching are San Diego and Denver.

The NFC has been more interesting with the NFC East and all but the rest of the conference is brutal.... maybe the Saints and Cardinals are fun teams but that's about it. Other than that this is shaping to be a really lack luster season outside of the Cowboys and maybe a handful of other teams.

[Mee]

I think the Pats and Colts falling off makes it more exciting, actually. The last few years, every season is just who can manage to beat the Pats/Colts? But now it's all wide open. The Broncos and Bills look good, the Jags are getting on track, the Dolphins might make a run, the NFC South and East are gonna be really competetive, etc etc blah blah. Good season ahead IMO.

[Alex The Great]

Except for the pats part :csad:

[FaT_tONle]

The one thing I will say is that we will have great division races in every division this year. I think the Steelers and POSSIBLY Arizona/GB can run away with it but other than that it should be interesting in that respect.

[BlackLantern]

Brady going down might actually be good for the AFC East...with a resurgent Buffalo and Miami rebuilding, the division is up for grabs....

[Immortalfire]

Al Davis clearly has no interest in winning games.

[Zephyr Alexian]

One of the only good things about the team(Lane Kiffen) is getting fired and that's a good thing in Davis' mind. He would rather stay loyal to personnel coaches who are used to losing.

[Showtime]

Brady going down might actually be good for the AFC East...with a resurgent Buffalo and Miami rebuilding, the division is up for grabs....

Tough to tell this early, but it still looks like Buffalo and the Patriots at this point. Although Miami bungling the Patriots last week gave them some life.

[Dr. Evil]

Carson Palmer won't play

[Kaleb]

and Michael Clayton is starting .

[Ace of Knaves]

The NFL season is really dead these days. I mean we are still on Millen and Al Davis??? I get that the baseball usually takes the front seat this time of year... but if you just look at the matchups these next few weeks it's gonna be pretty brutal as a fan. The Pats and Colts were obviously the stories last year... with both teams struggling it's going to be quite boring. It was fun with those two teams at the top. Denver is exciting but they are a small market team as is Buffalo. And Cutler is no where near that Peyton Manning status. Pittsburg is brutal to watch... the Ravens... the Titans... the Jags... all meh meh and more meh... even Farve has failed to entertain as his offense continues to sputter although I think the Jets will turn it around. The only teams worth watching are San Diego and Denver.

The NFC has been more interesting with the NFC East and all but the rest of the conference is brutal.... maybe the Saints and Cardinals are fun teams but that's about it. Other than that this is shaping to be a really lack luster season outside of the Cowboys and maybe a handful of other teams.


How can you say its boring? I think its much more entertaining to see some unexpected teams doing well and the so called big teams struggling. I think the League has been pretty unpredictable so far, and to me that means more excitement

[Double Down]

So that's what Favre looks like in a color other than green.

[Excel]

The NFL season has no big bad villain to watch every week week and hope they lose like they did with the Pats least year.

[Franklin Richards]

Have you met the Dallas Cowboys? People route against them every week.


:doom: :doom: :doom:

[Excel]

Americas team?

[Alex The Great]

God damn it. hate those Jets Throwbacks :down

[Franklin Richards]

Americas team?


Damn straight. You either love 'em or hate 'em.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[Alex The Great]

Wait a minute......










































































































Jurassic Park is on! :eek: *changes channel*

[Ace of Knaves]

How do you guys reckon ATL will get on in Carolina? I know about Peppers and Gamble but what about the rest of the Panthers defense?

[Alex The Great]

Cheifs up 6-0

[The Chris]

God damn it. hate those Jets Throwbacks :down

Yeha I'd really like for them to stop wearing them.

[Alex The Great]

The Broncos need to use Cutler more instead of running. hopefully he gets some good yards on this drive. He's on my fantasy team.

[Immortalfire]

Falcons block a kick :up:

[Alex The Great]

Falcons to get a Wildcard appearence. With some luck, the division.

[Ace of Knaves]

Whats the Falcons score?

[Alex The Great]

There down 7-6

[Cmill216]

Whats the Falcons score?

http://www.espn.com

[Spider-Fan]

The battle of Ohio is pathetic...so poetic :dry:

[Alex The Great]

Bucs up 10-7

[Alex The Great]

Jets up 21-0 in the 2nd.....

[Kaleb]

The battle of Ohio is pathetic...so poetic :dry:

What were you expecting lol

[Excel]

KC, who lost to Oakland, is leading Denver

[Alex The Great]

Touchdown cheifs!

[Immortalfire]

The battle of Ohio is pathetic...so poetic :dry:

Ironic term :oldrazz:

[Alex The Great]

Broncos blew it right there.

[Kaleb]

Jets 31 Cards 0

:hehe:

[Immortalfire]

Jets 31 Cards 0

:hehe:

Damn :wow:

[Excel]

What just happened to Brandon Albert? He looked dead.

[Alex The Great]

Damn :wow:
I thought the Cards would at least put up a fight. there 2-1 and they looked pretty good. Now were seeing the NORMAL Cardinals :o

[Kaleb]

What just happened to Brandon Albert? He looked dead.

Kansas City tackle Branden Albert was carted off the field with a leg injury late in the first half in Week 4.

Herb Taylor entered the game in his place. The extent of Albert's injury is not yet known, but he appears unlikely to return.

rotoworl.com

[Immortalfire]

I thought the Cards would at least put up a fight. there 2-1 and they looked pretty good. Now were seeing the NORMAL Cardinals :o

The Jets are who AZ thought they were.

[Alex The Great]

That will never get old :hehe:

[Kaleb]

So far Coles has 3tds from Brett.

[Alex The Great]

Something tells me I shouldn't have traded him away fro Jay Cutler :hehe:

oh well. :o

[Marx]

The battle of Ohio is pathetic...so poetic :dry:

What were you expecting lol

Ironic term :oldrazz:

It definately isn't the game I was hoping to see... :csad:

[Zephyr Alexian]

The Jet's offensive coordinator redeemed himself today, even if it is only the Cardinals.

[Poeman]

damn i have never seen a quarterback have a worse game then what kurt warner is going through

what an embarrassment this is...wonder whats it like in that locker room

5 seconds to end the half and the cards didnt down the ball instead fumble again..hahaha

[Excel]

Kansas City tackle Branden Albert was carted off the field with a leg injury late in the first half in Week 4.

Herb Taylor entered the game in his place. The extent of Albert's injury is not yet known, but he appears unlikely to return.

rotoworl.com

I was watching it live, he just collpased.

[Alex The Great]

Hope his injury isn't bad. But it doesn't look good :(

[Alex The Great]

Chiefs ahead of the Broncos??? wow.....

[Zephyr Alexian]

Only by a field goal. Denver won't lose this game.

[Alex The Great]

I know :)

[Ace of Knaves]

They're level now.

[Alex The Great]

:yay:


Jay Cutler is helping my Fantasy team :yay:

Though he COULD do better

[Ace of Knaves]

Matt Ryan is struggling big time

[The Game]

seeing what the deep ball is doing to 49ers, surely Coach B will find a way for Moss to ruin the DBs

[Raiden]

I started JT Sullivan for two of my teams that have a QB on bye, and so far he's rather disappointing. :(

[Badger]

How's Cutler treating you now, Alex? :D

[Zephyr Alexian]

Pick no. 2 for Griese was touchdown for GB.

[Mister J]

Why is Matt Flynn in the game for Rodgers?

edit: His shoulder didn't look bad on that strike to Jennings on his last play. :confused:

[Zephyr Alexian]

I was wondering the same thing.

[The Game]

WTH did the saints just do there

[The Game]

So lets see Cutler and Boldin are playing on teams that are losing at the moment...............thanks for all the help guys its not like I need the fantasy points

[Cmill216]

Rodgers just came back in....and threw a pick to Gaines Adams.

3 INTs for Aaron Rodgers today. Bucs have the ball on the Packer 1 with 2:00 to go, 23-21 Tampa Bay.

[Dark Donnie]

Rodgers just came back in....and threw a pick to Gaines Adams.

3 INTs for Aaron Rodgers today. Bucs have the ball on the Packer 1 with 2:00 to go, 23-21 Tampa Bay.

Play action to Antonio Bryant Pleaseeeee!

[Immortalfire]

I had hoped Atlanta might get a win today, before they get walloped next week in Green Bay. Ah well.

[Cmill216]

Graham scores.

Bucs lead 30-21 with less than two minutes to play.

[Duende Verde]

So lets see Cutler and Boldin are playing on teams that are losing at the moment...............thanks for all the help guys its not like I need the fantasy points

But Cutler is still getting a lot of yards and that's more fantasy points for you, I had to start Huard and even if the Chiefs win he'll give me less points than what Cutler will get you by losing. :csad:

[Zephyr Alexian]

3 INTs for Aaron Rodgers today.

He'll probably take a lot of criticism for that, but even more for the timing issue. It happened on a day that his predecessor's team put up 48 points.

[Badger]

Holy ****, that On-side was to close!!

[Badger]

Also, welcome back LJ!!

[Cmill216]

The 1st interception wasn't his fault. Tipped into the air by his running back.
The 2nd was a near direct pick to Derrick Brooks, who nearly had two more throughout the game.
And on the 3rd, he got leveled by DE Greg White and was picked by DE Gaines Adams.

A rough, rough day for Aaron Rodgers. Welcome to the NFL.

[Hunter Rider]

6 TD passes for Favre today. :wow:

[Mister J]

I know Shanahan doesn't mind taking a gamble, but they didn't need an onside kick there.

[Dark Donnie]

They had to...there Defense is terrible today and LJ is killing the clock.

[Immortalfire]

6 TD passes for Favre today. :wow:

Brett Favre is who we thought he was :wow:

[Badger]

Ding Dong the Donkeys are dead. :o

[Cmill216]

Oh, man. Favre throws 6 TDs, Jets put up 56 points. Rodgers throws 3 INTs, Packers lose two straight.

The media will eat this alive.