2008 NFL Thread

[Mister J]

They had to...there Defense is terrible today and LJ is killing the clock.
Their defense is consistently terrible. :hehe:

Beyond that, I wouldn't put it past Herm to take away any creativity with the run offense and just run Larry into the line 3 times. They had 2 timeouts left. Hindsight is always 20/20, but I would have kicked off.

[Dr. Evil]

Brett Favre is who we thought he was :wow:

And we let him off the hook.

Warner threw 57 passes for 472 yards.

[Dark Donnie]

Only fitting he(Warner) ends the game with a pick.

[Immortalfire]

Oh, man. Favre throws 6 TDs, Jets put up 56 points. Rodgers throws 3 INTs, Packers lose two straight.

The media will eat this alive.

I can already hear Chris Berman fangasming

[Caped Crusader]

Praying for Boldin

[Cmill216]

I'd like to personally thank the Denver Broncos and the Atlanta Falcons for proving me right today.

Denver will go nowhere playing defense the way they do. And to give up 33 points to the Chiefs? Ridiculous.

And Atlanta losing 24-9, the same exact score as the last game in which they played a real team.

[Caped Crusader]

Report, Boldin is moving and talking.

Thank god.

[Spidey-Bat]

Last year I was bored from October to February since my baseball team didn't make the playoffs. They didn't again so I need help picking a football team.

[Double Down]

Report, Boldin is moving and talking.

Thank god.

Where did you hear that?

[Caped Crusader]

Where did you hear that?

Cards post game radio

[Dark Donnie]

Where did you hear that?

I heard it on a few sites, one was profootballtalk. They said he was just knocked out.

[Dark Donnie]

Last year I was bored from October to February since my baseball team didn't make the playoffs. They didn't again so I need help picking a football team.

Before today I would have said Denver as they have an exciting offense.

[Dark Donnie]

Report: 'Boldin has full use of extremities'


Boldin
Pro Football Talk reports that Anquan Boldin "did not suffer a neck injury" and "has full use of his extremities" after leaving Sunday's game on a stretcher.
PFT notes that Boldin "apparently was only knocked out," which would qualify as excellent news given how ugly the injury looked. He hauled in 10 catches for 119 yards and one touchdown before being strapped down and carted off the field following a helmet-to-helmet hit in garbage time. Sep. 28 - 5:08 pm et
Source: Pro Football Talk

[Double Down]

Thank God. Boldin is a warrior.

[Assassin32]

I know Janikowski is a beast, but 76 yards is even out of his range.

Kiffin should have let JaMarcus heave it.:cmad:

[Dark Donnie]

Was it even close?

[Mister J]

3-2-OAK 42 (:01) 11-S.Janikowski 76 yard field goal is No Good,
Center-59-J.Condo, Holder-9-S.Lechler. 31-A.Cromartie at SD 2 to SD 28 for 26 yards (86-T.Stewart).
:dry:

[NewYorkSpider]

76 yards. :dry: You better off throwing a hail mary.


I'm getting some rumors that Carson Palmer may need Tommy John Surgery. I heard this on some forum, so It may not be true.

[Cmill216]

The Raiders really aren't that bad. :huh:

[Assassin32]

They're young. That's not the same thing as bad.

[chesslover]

How bout them Packers :)

[Zephyr Alexian]

What are the Chargers doing?

[CrypticOne]

Brett Favre is who we thought he was :wow:

HAHA, no doubt.

[bunk]

Yeah, this week he is.

[Double Down]

What are the Chargers doing?

Winning 18-15.

[Double Down]

The Rams were up 14-6 at halftime and have given up 22 straight points. That must have been some great speach Linehan gave at halftime.

[Nightmare]

The Rams!!! haha

[Cmill216]

The Rams are officially the worst team in the NFL. Wow.

[Double Down]

The Rams are officially the worst team in the NFL. Wow.

Why? Just because they have been outscored 147-43 so far this year?

[Nightmare]

Damn, i hate LT.

Kiffin Should be fired.

[Double Down]

Raiders blew a 15-0 halftime lead and now are losing 28-18.
Kiffin and Linehan both blew good leads at the half.

[Double Down]

The Rams are losing by an average of 26 points per game.

[Dr. Evil]

Is it too late for the Rams to move back to Los Angeles?

[The Game]

Good win by the skins

[vindrow]

Way to go Skins...of course I love any team that beats the Girls.

[Dr. Evil]

Has Chad Ocho Cinco lost his temper yet?

[Bond]

That was just disappointing.

[vindrow]

Is it too late for the Rams to move back to Los Angeles?



Hell, we don't want them....send the to North or South Dakota.

[Excel]

T.O. is being T.O. again.

JaMarcus outplayed Rivers.

When is Atlanta going to give the ball to Norwood more?

[Excel]

They're young. That's not the same thing as bad.

But still, Russel has looked excellent and Mike Bush has been quite the surprise.

[Poeman]

Favre is who we thought he was

League leader in touchdowns and awesome

[Cmill216]

Heh. The Bears had 0 sacks last week in 67 pass attempts by the Bucs.

3 plays into the Eagles game, and they've already got a sack.

[Nightmare]

Is it too late for the Rams to move back to Los Angeles?

We dont want them, they suck!!!

[JTStarkiller]

Olsen!

[Addendum]

How about that TD? Helluva way to start a game

[vindrow]

Should have challenged that TD...he only had one foot down before he went out of bounds.

[JTStarkiller]

Yeah, that sure was close. Their loss.

[Cmill216]

He got both down from my perspective.

[Addendum]

There wasn't enough there there to overturn it, if challenged

[Addendum]

Damn Philly.

But this is a helluva game so far

[vindrow]

He got both down from my perspective.

looks that way but by the time he got possesion of the ball he only got his right foot in and his momentium carried him through the endzone.

There wasn't enough there there to overturn it, if challenged

Unfortunatly, we will never know.

[Excel]

That was a TD (the olsen one).


Jesus Donovan, that td to DeSean was a pretty throw.

[vindrow]

[QUOTE=Excel;15736927]That was a TD (the olsen one).


QUOTE]


To you it was, to others it wasn't....but, it does no good to debate it now since its done and over.

[BatSpider]

http://wai.redskins.com/redskinsFile/articles/images/23844.jpg

[Dark Donnie]

Heh. The Bears had 0 sacks last week in 67 pass attempts by the Bucs.

3 plays into the Eagles game, and they've already got a sack.

McNabb holds onto the ball to long from time to time.


Great play on that screen by Buck.

[Belvedere]

The fact Orton's put up 2 TDs on the NFLs best defence in the first half alone's quite embaressing, I think.

[War Party]

The fact Orton's put up 2 TDs on the NFLs best defence in the first half alone's quite embaressing, I think.

That's what happens when you have a short field. And they ain't the best defense.

[Poeman]

For anyone that missed it...

the brutal hit that Boldin took

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[Belvedere]

That's what happens when you have a short field. And they ain't the best defense.

Coming into this game (statistically), they were.

[War Party]

Coming into this game (statistically), they were.

Yeah, statistically. But there's holes in this defense and they can be easily exploited. Dallas exploited it and the Bears are doing it to an extent. The Eagles can't cover a tight end for the life of them and their eagerness to blitz is a good/bad thing for them. When they don't execute, which does happen a good amount, they get torn up.

[Dark Donnie]

Looking at that hit again...it doesn't look like it was intentionally helmet to helmet.

[Hunter Rider]

Shocked to see the Cowboys losing, this Bears/Eagles game is tight as it gets.

[Excel]

I dont think that was intentional.

Eagles D looks great except on 3rd down where they are getting rocked.

[Addendum]

It was an unavoidable helmet to helmet.

As for tonight's game, that was a great catch by Hester

[War Party]

I dont think that was intentional.

Eagles D looks great except on 3rd down where they are getting rocked.

That's Jim Johnson's defense for you.

[Belvedere]

Yeah, statistically. But there's holes in this defense and they can be easily exploited. Dallas exploited it and the Bears are doing it to an extent. The Eagles can't cover a tight end for the life of them and their eagerness to blitz is a good/bad thing for them. When they don't execute, which does happen a good amount, they get torn up.

True, I really thought the Bears would be screwed against the Eagles today, they didn't have the personnel to air it out and the Eagles own against the run.

How wrong I was.

3 TDs for Orton now, Asante got burnt.

[Excel]

Asante tripped; and Westbrook it out. Eagles could lose.

[Hunter Rider]

Is John Madden also Matlock ? and why does he stand all the time ? :huh:

[War Party]

Asante tripped; and Westbrook it out. Eagles could lose.

Seriously. The Eagles offense is a completely different monster when Westbrook is out there.

[Mister J]

For anyone that missed it...

the brutal hit that Boldin took

SWDA67sdfPg
Boldin! Jesus. I thought you was dead. :2face:

Seriously, the way he fell was just creepy.

Is John Madden also Matlock ? and why does he stand all the time ? :huh:
Hemorrhoids.

[Mister J]

Jeebus, Donovan. :dry:

[War Party]

Mcnabb didn't know the route.

[Belvedere]

Kevin Payne's second INT of the season.

Insult to injury, Buckhalter (sp?) went down injured after tackling Payne.

[Excel]

That was ugly, though now way McNabb didnt know the route. Hes played in that offense a decade; the reciever was rookie. McNabb looked brilliant all night but that was an ugly throw.

[Excel]

Replay shows it, Desean DID run the wrong route...but he would not have been open, that was a bad decision.

PICK!

[Mister J]

Jeebus, Kyle. :dry:

[War Party]

Got it right back.

[War Party]

Has anyone else noticed that Orton is incapable of throwing to his left? He's barely attempted a pass to his left and when he finally did, he just got picked off.

[Showtime]

They play football when the Patriots have a bye week? WTF.

[Belvedere]

Oh, Orton, how could you?

[War Party]

The Eagles defense keeps giving the offense chances to score. They're bound to get one eventually.

[Hunter Rider]

Come on Eagles what is with this nonsense. :(

[Excel]

McNabb, send it deep for DeSean. Enough otu routes with him; they cant keep up with him.

[War Party]

The Eagles are having one of those frustrating games on offense. I'm used to seeing this kind of thing from them. It also doesn't help when Westbrook is out of the game.

[Excel]

They will be ok, the conservative play calling isnt helping. McNabb was rolling early going down the field.

[Excel]

:lmao:

[Belvedere]

Well done, Kevin Jones.

I hope your mother's proud of you. :(

[Mister J]

Well, this is the best game of Hot Potato that I've seen in some time. :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Come on Eagles this time make it count!

[Dr. Evil]

I guess the Bears are who we thought they were.

[Addendum]

But will the Eagles let us off the hook

[Belvedere]

Good stop on 3rd down, do the Eagles go for it? I think so.

[War Party]

I don't agree with the Eagles play calling there. Need to pass there on 3rd down.

[Excel]

stupid pay calling

he was in though

i woulda kicked the field goal.

[War Party]

Terrible play calling there.

[Hunter Rider]

The Eagles cannot close the deal! :(

[Belvedere]

Bears D. :heart:

[Addendum]

stupid pay calling

he was in though

If the NFL extends the goal line by 1 yard, then yes he was in.

[War Party]

Why does play calling always have to be an issue with the Eagles? It's starting to get repetitive complaining about it eight times a year.

[Addendum]

What a way to end

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[Excel]

The play calling in the 2nd half was horrendous; WHY do they keep playing conservative? They were rolling early when they stretched the field; they need to let mcnabb air it out.

[Dark Donnie]

No Westbrook killed us.

[Excel]

Disagree. Westbrook makes you arguably the best offense in the NFL, but your guys pass game is good enough to win by itself if they use; they didn't. Even Al Michaels was just waiting for a pump fake short and a deep pass late to Deseabn on a fake out and go deep, it woulda almost defiently worked, but the play didnt come.

[Dr. Evil]

Lovie Smith made a smart move naming Orton the starter over Rex Grossman. It was about time that Da Bears realized he sucks.

[Dr. Evil]

Those Superfans are very happy that Da Bears won.

[The Chris]

The ESPN rankings should be very interesting. Whose number one guys?

[Cmill216]

IMO, Tennessee.

[Dark Donnie]

Disagree. Westbrook makes you arguably the best offense in the NFL, but your guys pass game is good enough to win by itself if they use; they didn't. Even Al Michaels was just waiting for a pump fake short and a deep pass late to Deseabn on a fake out and go deep, it woulda almost defiently worked, but the play didnt come.

They were definitely more aggressive in the first half...this is a common theme though. Our defense played great in the second half, we had to many missed opportunities.

[Excel]

LenWhale has a pretty nice td jig.

IMO, Tennessee.

Yup. #2 is Giants, #3 is Dallas (sorry, Buffalo)

Re: McNabb: he is a gifted player physical, Andy Reid knows it thats why hes stuck with him. Reid loves him, but evidently not enough to ever get him a real wr outside of T.O.. He now has oen in DeSean, who is a truly special player whether folks realize it or not, people with his illusiveness are incredibly rare, and McNabb knows it which is why he throws the ball his direction all the time; its why even as a rookie he became their #1 in the preseason.

If Reid wont call it, McNabb will have change the play at the lie to attack downfield; the Eagles are deadly there.

[Marx]

So how good does everyone think the Steelers will do tomorrow night?

[Assassin32]

I think Big Ben's gonna take care of business.

[Excel]

for the sake of my fantasy team, rashard needs to do well.

[Go Web Go!]

I was nowhere near a tv or computer with the Fins having their bye week, so it was pretty surprising to see a few things:

-The Chiefs beating the Broncos. I was pretty certain KC would be winless pretty late into the season. They have a pretty tough schedule.
-The filthy Jets putting up 56 against the Cards. Now, in typical NYJ fan fashion, they go from having a finger on the panic button to making preparations for a trip to Tampa in Feb. Bleh.

Also fun to see new blood like the Titans and the Bills at the top of the AFC. Countdown is on for Fins/Chargers next Sunday, which I shall be attending. ;)

[Kelly]

I have come to the conclusion, that.........the Cowboys are allowed to throw ONE interception....................as long as it is in the FIRST ****ING HALF.......

















*sighs* I will be in mourning for the next few days......

[Dark Donnie]

Rams Offense-TM-Rams Sep. 29 - 8:38 am et

According to ESPN's Chris Mortensen, the Rams have fired coach Scott Linehan.

Defensive Coordinator Jim Haslett is expected to replace him. Linehan was 11-25 as head coach of the Rams and had St. Louis out to an 0-4 start this season.
Source: ESPN.com

[Belvedere]

It's been a long time coming.

[FaT_tONle]

Cowboys actually dropped a game, eh? Better now then later... at least the Eagles lost. They are almost in a must win next week. Not sure who I'll be rooting for.

[Alpha and Omega]

Yeah, interesting times for the Eagles. They play Washington next week.

[Dark Donnie]

Yeah, interesting times for the Eagles. They play Washington next week.

They should be fine if Westbrook and Andrews return.

[Go Web Go!]

Linehan is just another case of an O Coordinator that should have stuck to calling plays up in a booth somewhere.

[Alpha and Omega]

They should be fine if Westbrook and Andrews return.

that, and if Reid's play calling is more diverse. He's too good of a coach to be ultra-conservative in one game and open it up in the next.

[Kaleb]

Linehan is just another case of an O Coordinator that should have stuck to calling plays up in a booth somewhere.

He Cam Cameron'd that team :csad::o

[Go Web Go!]

He Cam Cameron'd that team :csad::o

Hey now. Let's not get crazy. Linehan was bad, but atleast had a decent first season before thing's started going awry. Cameron...yikes. Just awful. :csad:

[kane9321]

the cowgirls lost, the raiders lost...I'm happy

[BlackLantern]

It's not like Haslett is much better.....

[Raiden]

Wow, Eagles lost, and 'Skins beat the 'Boys. Looks like NFC East is a 4-team race to the top.

[Matt]

If Kyle Orton could just stop with all the interceptions, he'd actually be one of the deadliest QBs in the NFC.

[Dr. Evil]

Lane Kiffin is probably next.

[Dark Donnie]

If Kyle Orton could just stop with all the interceptions, he'd actually be one of the deadliest QBs in the NFC.

I don't remember him making one throw to the right last night. He has below average arm strength and isn't great at making adjustments. The Eagles shut him down in the 2nd half.

I personally see him as a Trent Dilfer type....he could manage a game well, but I doubt he'll win you many games.

[Excel]

Kiffin himself has no clue just how good Oakland will be.

Give it two years.

[Belvedere]

If Kyle Orton could just stop with all the interceptions, he'd actually be one of the deadliest QBs in the NFC.

I think if he hadn't sat during the 06 season he'd of come on leaps and bounds by now, I'm hoping by the end of this season he'll actually be a respectable QB rather than "Neckbeard"; the beer-swilling, interception throwing, game manager.

[bunk]

If Kyle Orton could just stop with all the interceptions, he'd actually be one of the deadliest QBs in the NFC.

Hahahaha!

[Equinox]

If Kyle Orton could just stop with all the interceptions, he'd actually be one of the deadliest QBs in the NFC.

The most frustrating part is not the interceptions..Its watching him overthrow or underthrow open receivers..Some sure fire touchdowns were missed as a result...

[Ace of Knaves]

Does anyone else think Matt Ryan was let down by his receivers? He spread the ball around very well, but was let down at least 6 times by wide-outs dropping the ball!!!!! I've been saying it for years, the Falcons need to get some decent WRs in!!! Roddy White is the only respectable one, and even he had a couple of drops on Sunday.

[Go Web Go!]

It's not like Haslett is much better.....

Yeah, that's a joke. I guess they were in a hurry to send him out the door.

[Marx]

If Kyle Orton could just stop with all the interceptions, he'd actually be one of the deadliest QBs in the NFC.

Yes...IF. :hehe:

[Dr. Evil]

It's not like Haslett is much better.....

The Rams will be contacting these guys as soon as the season ends:

- Bill Cowher
- Brian Billick
- Jim Fassell
- Marty Schottenheimer
- Dick Vermiel
- Steve Mariucci

And they will probably look at College Coaches such as:

- Pete Carroll, USC
- Kirk Ferentz, Iowa
- Charlie Weiss, Notre Dame

They have to adhere to the Rooney Rule, so they will probably interview Assistant Coach Henry Ellard and maybe give a courtesy call to Denny Green. They will probably look at Jason Garrett and Josh McDaniels as well.

[BlackLantern]

Fassel or Marty are the most likely...Cowher is not coming back to coaching anytime soon, Mariucci loves his NFL Network gig, Vermiel is retired, Billick might be a good choice...Pete Carroll is NOT leaving USC anytime soon

[Go Web Go!]

You can cross Cowher off the list. There's no doubt any team with a coaching vacancy is going to have him at the top of their list, but he has a comfy brodcasting gig. He's not going to drop it for a job with one of the league's bottom feeders, whichever team that may be.

[Zephyr Alexian]

The Rams might hit desperation mode and interview 'they are who we thought they were.' In all fairness, with the right players, Green is a good head coach.

[NewYorkSpider]

Pete Carroll isn't leaving USC. He's basically a god there.

[Silver Knight]

You can cross Cowher off the list. There's no doubt any team with a coaching vacancy is going to have him at the top of their list, but he has a comfy brodcasting gig. He's not going to drop it for a job with one of the league's bottom feeders, whichever team that may be.
Money talks.

[Raiden]

Pete Carroll isn't leaving USC. He's basically a god there.

Plus his last two NFL gigs left a bad taste in his mouth. USC pays well and he has way less pressure doing it. Why go anywhere else?

[Raiden]

Btw, Ted Thompson (GM of Packers) must be feeling nervous after Favre threw for 6 TDs against the Cards, and Rodgers is out with a shoulder injury. If Rodgers' injury persists, then he will start hearing the criticisms from the Packer faithfuls before long.

[Tigerking]

Am I one of the few that think the Ravens can upset the Steelers?

[Zephyr Alexian]

The injury is now deemed as a sprain, but who knows. You're right Raiden. Those two quarterbacks are going to face comparisons all season long and Thompson will be in the thick of it.

Also, former Jags offensive lineman Stephen Collier is now paralyzed from the waist down; one of his legs was amputated as well. Sad story.

[Immortalfire]

Man...did you guys hear about Tampa kicker Matt Bryant's 3 month old son that died? Very sad :(

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Matt-Bryant-hits-game-winner-amidst-tragedy;_ylt=AqZyUYK3UK9t.xKbujwnpsFDubYF?urn=nfl, 110991

[NewYorkSpider]

I heard about a few days ago. :csad:

[Zephyr Alexian]

Bryant looked like he was going to break down at the post game press conference and understandably so. There are no words for that kind of tragedy.

[BlackLantern]

I commend the guy for even being ready to play....they said he took one day to himself, showed up at team meetings and was ready to work....That's a man right there....people like Pacman Jones and Cedric Benson should take notes

[Belvedere]

I read about Matt Bryant's loss, I really didn't think he would play nor did I expect him to, no-one should ever have to bury their own child. :csad:

Terrible news about Collier also.

[FaT_tONle]

Wow, Eagles lost, and 'Skins beat the 'Boys. Looks like NFC East is a 4-team race to the top.

Ya I wouldn't buy into the hype just yet. Eagles play a couple of decent games and then they lay an egg last night. Redskins are just playing out of their minds right now. They will wear down by the second half of the year. It will come down to the Giants and Cowboys.

[Dr. Evil]

RIP to Matt Bryant's son....

As for the Rams, they are going to have to interview a minority candidate to adhere to the Rooney Rule. It's probably going to have to be Denny Green.

[Raiden]

RIP to Matt Bryant's son....

As for the Rams, they are going to have to interview a minority candidate to adhere to the Rooney Rule. It's probably going to have to be Denny Green.

I wonder if Dennis Green is tired of all the interviews he got because of that Rooney Rule. I'm sure he's rather tired of it.

[Cmill216]

The Bucs were prepared to go without him yesterday, but he flew back late Saturday night and decided to play in honor of his son. He went 3 for 3, and eventually hit what would become the game-winning field goal. Really amazing.

[Zephyr Alexian]

I commend the guy for even being ready to play....they said he took one day to himself, showed up at team meetings and was ready to work....That's a man right there....people like Pacman Jones and Cedric Benson should take notes

Well said.:up:

This guy is a true team player.

[Alex The Great]

More sad news kids. the Jags OL who was shot before the start of the season is paralyzed below the waist and has had to have his left leg amputated :csad:

[Alex The Great]

even more, Andre Fraizer is been carried off on a stretcher. Been an ugly weekm for injuries :csad:

[Bunker]

Helmet to helmet?

[Alex The Great]

dunno, didn't see the hit.

[Metropolis_Man]

Man...did you guys hear about Tampa kicker Matt Bryant's 3 month old son that died? Very sad :(

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Matt-Bryant-hits-game-winner-amidst-tragedy;_ylt=AqZyUYK3UK9t.xKbujwnpsFDubYF?urn=nfl, 110991


Its a tragedy. Watching him at the press conference had tears welling up in my eyes. That's a sad thing, your child is there and you're ready to bring it into this world and teach it everything you know, in the best way possible and to watch it grow, and just like that, its all taken away.

I was happy to see him get the game winning kick.

Prayers to him and his family.

[The Game]

Am I one of the few that think the Ravens can upset the Steelers?

No its quite possible that they could beat the Sheelers, but not with the way they are playing at the moment

[Metropolis_Man]

Wow. Steelers offense is looking horrid right now. With last weeks play and then whats going on tonight, its not a Steelers team I am familiar with. Listen at those boo's from the fans.

[Dark Donnie]

What a bum:



Plaxico Burress fined a 'stunning number' of times in New York

By Chris Chase

Recently-suspended Giants WR Plaxico Burress has been fined a stunning 40-50 times during his four seasons in New York, according to FOX Sports' Jay Glazer. The fines have been levied for various offenses, mainly related to Burress' tardiness for meetings and treatments. Considering that Burress has played in 50 games for the Giants, the total number of violations is mind-boggling. (It should be said that Tom Coughlin is a task-master who fines players for being early to meetings (his meetings begin five minutes early), so getting a few fines probably isn't out of the ordinary for some players. But 50? That's habitual.)

Glazer's sources also tell him that Burress is often insubordinate towards Coughlin, frequently "tuning him out" during conversations and ignoring direct orders. This news isn't altogether surprising; Plaxico has long been known for his diva-like attitude, something that gets glossed over because of the successes his teams have had.

Burress has accepted the fines without incident, writes Glazer, but was taken aback by the suspension because "he just wants to play football." What Plax doesn't seem to understand is that playing football is a full-time job that includes going to meetings, getting treatment for injuries and listening to coaches. His new $35 million contract doesn't just pay him for Sundays, but for the other six days of the week as well.

This is a major problem for the Giants. It's one thing to give star treatment to your biggest offensive weapon, but allowing him to create his own rules in a locker room that won a Super Bowl thanks, in part, to the disciplined approach of Tom Coughlin is a powder keg of resentment waiting to explode. It seems like the Giants tried to handle this in-house for the past few years, but when Burress didn't show up for a meeting on Monday, they were forced to act.

Now that the team has drawn its line in the sand, what happens the next time Burress shows up late or turns his back to Coughlin? The toughest kind of person to control is the one who doesn't care.

[Cmill216]

Man they may have to pull a Keyshawn on his ass and sit him down for the season. This is getting out of hand.

[Go Web Go!]

Yeah, that's going to happen with a brand new contract and all...

[Cmill216]

As if that's ever stopped an organization.

On a side note, WTF happened to Willis McGahee's eye? :huh:

[bunk]

As if that's ever stopped an organization.

On a side note, WTF happened to Willis McGahee's eye? :huh:

His helmet was ripped off a couple times in the game before, that's why he now looks like a cyborg.

I thought my Ravens had this one...so sad.

[vindrow]

Steelers got hit hard with injuries Mendenhall and Simmons out for the season, so Tomlin said that they will sign a RB for Willie's back-up and to start against the Jags.

I have a feeling that they are going to sign Davenport since he is available and knows the Steelers offense, but at least Willie will be back after the bye week.

[Go Web Go!]

As if that's ever stopped an organization.


Well, I can't quite think of many examples off the top of my head where teams suspend one of their top players for the season. Maybe T.O. when he was still in Philly.

[Zephyr Alexian]

On a side note, WTF happened to Willis McGahee's eye? :huh:

He was injured during the Browns game.

[Kaleb]

I feel sorry for Matt Bryants son, and im pissed off that the league didnt allow the Bucs a roster exemption ( meaning they could have let Matt have the day off and sign another kicker without cutting a player in the squad ) , which would had allowed him to have the day off to mourn his son.


oh but get this the league has allowed the bengals a roster exemption for Chris Henry :cmad:

[The Game]

Hey guys I just wanted to know since you have been a football fan, what do you consider the best year to be. I say 1998 (maybe because that was the year I went from casual fan to serious and what a year to do it)

[Kable24]

I have to say for me it was different times. I've been a fan of the Pittsburgh Steelers for 30 years now, so I love the seventies legacy, but was still pretty young to appreciate it. I think every year gets more and more exciting for me. But in the 90's I went through a lull and wasn't watching much football. I guess I became a big fan of the NFL in 2001. I was bored with football and wanted something more. The XFL for as crappy as it was actually got me back into watching football again. And now I don't miss a Steelers game!

[Dark Donnie]

Looks Kiffin is getting the axe today.

[Immortalfire]

Looks Kiffin is getting the axe today.

We'll probably be saying the same thing next week.

[Go Web Go!]

This is true. He was supposed to be out of a job last Monday, but sure enough...still there...

[kane9321]

just heard..lane is gone

[Dr. Evil]

I read a report saying that Chip Rosenbloom, the owner of the Rams won't sell the team unless the new owners keep the team in St. Louis. Basically he doesn't want to sell the team to the NFL's Version of Clay Bennett (Owner of NBA's Oklahoma City Thunder who bought the Sonics, then moved them to Oklahoma City).

[Immortalfire]

just heard..lane is gone

Link.

[Dr. Evil]

Link.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3617977

[BlackLantern]

the NFL needs to stop with these throwback uniforms....I understand its a merchandise thing but they are ugly and make my eyeballs cry....

[The Chris]

the NFL needs to stop with these throwback uniforms....I understand its a merchandise thing but they are ugly and make my eyeballs cry....

Agreed.

[Dr. Evil]

Who would of thought that two of the NFL's most dysfunctional franchises once made their home in Los Angeles?

[Showtime]

I didn't mind the Steelers uniforms.

[Go Web Go!]

the NFL needs to stop with these throwback uniforms....I understand its a merchandise thing but they are ugly and make my eyeballs cry....

Not if it's theeese:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39538000/jpg/_39538742_running_back_300.jpg

...but then again, they haven't worn those in 5 years, so what do I care? :o

[Dark Donnie]

ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports that Lane Kiffin was fired Tuesday over the phone, and do not intend to honor his contract.

The Raiders may use "insubordination" as the excuse -- they pulled the same stunt with Mike Shanahan almost two decades ago. The in-house favorite to replace Kiffin is noted offensive line coach Tom Cable. Kiffin, still owed $3 million, went 5-15 with the Raiders, but had them playing hard in two close losses to the Bills and Chargers. This can't be a good thing for their offense.
The Raiders are jokes...he won't be out of a job long. I read Syracuse is likely.

[Showtime]

Insubordination? Are they going to write it on his report card?

[Belvedere]

I know what'll help the development of a #1 overall QB and a #4 overall RB, let's fire the coach that drafted them!

Genius!

[Dark Donnie]

They'll have to honor...it's a joke what The Raiders did to this guy for almost 3 weeks..plus they interview guys for his job while he's still in office?

[Mister J]

ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports that Lane Kiffin was fired Tuesday over the phone, and do not intend to honor his contract.
That's bush league. :down

[Belvedere]

So bush league, you have to say it twice? ;)

[The Chris]

Al Davis is just evil. That is just plain wrong. Sue his ass.

[BLACKVULCAN]

Hey i just caught the tail end of Espn last night. Did somebody say something on the cowboys team after their lost to Washington on sunday? I am hoping it's Terrell Owens. I want that dude to be a cancer to Dallas just like he has everywhere else.Can Anybody give me the scoop on what when down?

[Zephyr Alexian]

They'll have to honor...it's a joke what The Raiders did to this guy for almost 3 weeks..plus they interview guys for his job while he's still in office?

Agreed. I don't even think he's the problem. How can Davis hire and guy and not allow him to bring in his own staff? Unbelievable.:down

[Erzengel]

Hey i just caught the tail end of Espn last night. Did somebody say something on the cowboys team after their lost to Washington on sunday? I am hoping it's Terrell Owens. I want that dude to be a cancer to Dallas just like he has everywhere else.Can Anybody give me the scoop on what when down?
The Cowboys know they have an excellent weapon in Terrell Owens. Against the Redskins, the Cowboys may have tried to force it to T.O. way too much. Owens had seven catches for 71 yards and bulled his way into the end zone for a 10-yard touchdown in the third quarter. But Shawn Springs smothered Owens in the first half, and Carlos Rogers took over in the second when Springs suffered a calf injury.
The Cowboys ran 58 offensive plays. They threw it to him 18 times and let Owens run it twice on two end-arounds. Yet when asked if the ball was thrown his way often enough, Owens said: "I would say no. I'm a competitor, and I want the ball.
"There were some opportunities there, and there were some opportunities there where they were holding and the refs just didn't call it. You can't blame the refs; we just didn't make the plays.
"Everybody recognized that I wasn't really getting the ball in the first half," Owens said. "I'm pretty sure everybody watching the game recognized it, people in the stands recognized it, I think my team recognized it. I didn't quit. I kept fighting and trying to running my routes and trying to get open."
...

[The Game]

WR's are all divas, I would not read too much in to it

[BLACKVULCAN]

Thanks Erzengel. not being a Cowboys supporter .i hope this starts to unravel things in "Big" D between T.O. and quote"his" quaterback Romo.
thanks again

[Dark Donnie]

Terrell Owens-WR- Cowboys Sep. 30 - 10:18 am et

Terrell Owens had what several sources deemed a "serious conversation" with Tony Romo about his role in the Dallas offense.

According to sources, the types of routes and throws he is seeing are what concerns Owens, who did not talk to reporters no Monday. Owens has never had a QB with whom he didn't eventually have a falling out, so keep an eye on this situation if TO's stats continue to lag behind his expectations.
Source: Dallas Morning News

[Kable24]

WR's are all divas, I would not read too much in to it

Hines Ward isn't a diva, although he does get his nails done.

[Dark Donnie]

Power Rankings:
2008 Power Rankings: Week 5
RK (LW) TEAM REC COMMENT
1 (2) Giants 3-0-0 Took the NFC East lead without getting off the couch. With the Seahawks coming in, Giants are staring at 4-0. (MM)
2 (4) Titans 4-0-0 Hard to find fault with the franchise's first 4-0 start. But you have to take note that the teams they've beaten are 3-12 combined. The Titans are the only team that has played three home games. (PK)
3 (1) Cowboys 3-1-0 We'll see if the loss to the Redskins is a wake-up call. The good news is Cincinnati, Arizona and St. Louis are next. (MM)
4 (6) Bills 4-0-0 The Bills have overcome three straight fourth-quarter deficits to remain undefeated. Their opponents have a combined record of 4-11, but the Bills have been sensational when it matters most. (TG)
5 (5) Steelers 3-1-0 The Steelers got back on track with a big win against Baltimore to solidify their spot as one of the AFC's best. (JW)
6 (15) Redskins 3-1-0 Beating the Cowboys on their home turf has to count for something. Big game with Philly looms. (MM)
7 (10) Panthers 3-1-0 Steve Smith and Muhsin Muhammad give Panthers best receiver duo since Muhammad's departure three years ago. (PY)
8 (9) Chargers 2-2-0 The Chargers' win over Oakland wasn't pretty, but 25 points in the fourth quarter is a nice indication of what this team can do. (BW)
9 (3) Eagles 2-2-0 Deserve a little grace for playing without Brian Westbrook, L.J. Smith and Shawn Andrews. Can't afford to lose at home to the Redskins. (MM)
10 (13) Buccaneers 3-1-0 Brian Griese 3-0 since taking over as starter. (PY)
11 (7) Broncos 3-1-0 The Broncos will continue to slide down the rankings if their defense can't improve. Too much pressure is being put on the Denver offense. (BW)
12 (14) Jaguars 2-2-0 Two consecutive late-game rallies, spurred by a precise David Garrard. They've officially survived the 0-2 start and losses to Tennessee and Buffalo don't look so bad. (PK)
13 (11) Patriots 2-1-0 Eviscerating loss to Dolphins in Week 3 gave Patriots plenty to work on in their bye week. If they can't beat the 49ers on Sunday, prepare for panic to set in. (TG)
14 (17) Ravens 2-1-0 There's nothing wrong with a 2-1 start. But the Ravens missed out on a chance to make a huge statement in Monday's road loss to Pittsburgh. (JW)
15 (8) Packers 2-2-0 The Packers might have to start their backup quarterback for the first time in 16 years if Aaron Rodgers can't recover from a sprained shoulder. (KS)
16 (16) Saints 2-2-0 Deuce McAllister is back to bring much-needed balance to the offense. (PY)
17 (12) Colts 1-2-0 The Colts enjoyed a week off to help refocus and heal. But the best medicine could be the Texans, who've only beaten Indy once. (PK)
18 (20) Bears 2-2-0 The Bears hope they turned the corner in defeating Philadelphia. One thing is for certain: They showed important versatility on offense. (KS)
19 (21) Jets 2-2-0 Brett Favre's six-touchdown day breathes new life into the Jets heading into their bye week. But defense ranks 28th on points allowed and 24th in yards allowed. (TG)
20 (18) Cardinals 2-2-0 Pass protection must improve or Kurt Warner won't last. Cards face must-win vs. Buffalo. (MS)
21 (19) Vikings 1-3-0 It doesn't get any easier this week at New Orleans on Monday Night Football. (KS)
22 (22) 49ers 2-2-0 J.T. O'Sullivan has taken 19 sacks in four games. Tough week for Niners with Pats coming off bye. (MS)
23 (23) Seahawks 1-2-0 Bye week allowed Seahawks to get healthier at receiver. Defense must step up. (MS)
24 (24) Falcons 2-2-0 Falcons beating bad teams and losing to good ones. Must keep Michael Turner running against the good ones. (PY)
25 (26) Browns 1-3-0 The Battle of Ohio wasn't pretty. But the Browns finally got a win and have the bye week to try to get better. (JW)
26 (25) Dolphins 1-2-0 Dolphins shocked the NFL with a crazy romp over the Patriots in Week 3. If the Dolphins can follow up with a win at home over the Chargers, they would rekindle long-lost hopes in South Florida. (TG)
27 (27) Texans 0-3-0 Remaining upbeat despite losing a game they should have won. Ready for a full month at home in Reliant Stadium with the roof open. (PK)
28 (29) Raiders 1-3-0 The Raiders may be a mess, but this team is playing hard. Good things will start to happen if that trend continues. (BW)
29 (31) Chiefs 1-3-0 The Chiefs deserve a lot of credit for their big win over Denver. Many pundits thought they'd go 0-16. That is no longer a worry. (BW)
30 (28) Bengals 0-4-0 This team wasn't good with Carson Palmer. Without him, it might be the worst team in the league. (JW)
31 (30) Lions 0-3-0 Matt Millen's departure doesn't make them any better. At least not this year. (KS)
32 (32) Rams 0-4-0 Rams would be wise to give Marc Bulger another shot. Trent Green's not the long-term answer. (MS)


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking?season=2008&week=5

[Kable24]

It's hard to believe The Bills and the Titans in the top 5.

At least My Steelers are holding on. for now....

[Zephyr Alexian]

What? C'mon TO. What about that crying plee at the end of last season?
*sniffles* That's my quarterback. . .*whimpers* and y'all are gonna try and blame him . . . . . and . . .and, it's not fair*tears and more whimpers*

It's only heading into week 5 and he's already putting himself in the headlines for the wrong reasons.

[Go Web Go!]

Ugh. Why does every single media outlet make something out EVERYTHING that Owens has to say. He's seriously becoming the Britney Spears of the NFL. No matter what he does makes the headlines somewhere, it's ridiculous. Yes, he has a history of fallouts with quarterbacks/organizations, but he's been nothing but a model citizen in Dallas.

All he said was they need to throw him the ball. What receiver hasn't said that at one point or another?

[Excel]

The Bills arent a top 5 :lmao:

The Eagles should still be in the top 8 unless westbrook is out for longer than expected.

[kane9321]

22 (22) 49ers 2-2-0 J.T. O'Sullivan has taken 19 sacks in four games. Tough week for Niners with Pats coming off bye. (MS)

wooohooo. Better than where we were lastyear

[Zephyr Alexian]

All he said was they need to throw him the ball. What receiver hasn't said that at one point or another?

I definitely agree with you on the media's overexposure of him, but still, TO said that after a game where 19 of the Cowboy's 58 offensive plays in the game were for him.

[The Apocalypse]

Ugh. Why does every single media outlet make something out EVERYTHING that Owens has to say. He's seriously becoming the Britney Spears of the NFL. No matter what he does makes the headlines somewhere, it's ridiculous. Yes, he has a history of fallouts with quarterbacks/organizations, but he's been nothing but a model citizen in Dallas.

All he said was they need to throw him the ball. What receiver hasn't said that at one point or another?

Thank you! He's just speaking his mind and it isn't like that's what every WR in the league is thinking. The media over analyzes everything.

[jaguarr]

F**king Al Davis! :cmad:

jag

[DeaDheaD]

BENSON TO THE BENGALS (http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/09/30/benson-to-the-bengals/)

Posted by Mike Florio on September 30, 2008, 4:12 p.m.
At a time when the Cincinnati Bengals seemed to be the favorite to land 2005 NFL (http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/#) MVP Shaun Alexander, a native of nearby Florence, Kentucky, the Bengals threw the league a curveball on Tuesday, signing tailback Cedric Benson.
The team has announced via a press release the addition of Benson. He’ll replace DeDe Dorsey, who has been placed on injured reserve.
Benson was the fourth overall pick in the 2005 draft. The Bears dumped him after a lackluster 2007 season as the clear-cut starter — and after two alcohol-related arrests in less than a month. Though a grand jury opted last week not to indict Benson on any of the pending charges, the decision of the Bengals (http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/#) to add a player with a troubled past will only reinforce the team’s standing as a franchise that simply doesn’t care about the perception that more than a few of its players are turds.

Hey, but at least those talented-but-flawed players are helping the Bengals win lots of football games.
http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/

God bless the Bengals, :funny:

[Mister J]

So, I wonder what broadcast booth Marvin Lewis will be trying to get into next year.

[Zephyr Alexian]

He'll probably become a defensive coordinator for another franchise.

[Dark Donnie]

so, i wonder what broadcast booth marvin lewis will be trying to get into next year.

cbs

[Belvedere]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/

God bless the Bengals, :funny:

Cedric the Entertainer signed with the Bungles? It's a match made in heaven.

[Raiden]

Lane Kiffen deserves the money he is owed in the contract, and if Al Davis doesn't give it to him I hope he'll sue Davis' cranky old ass off, and maybe Davis will get a heart attack for having to pay all those money in addition to attorney fee.

[Raiden]

Ugh. Why does every single media outlet make something out EVERYTHING that Owens has to say. He's seriously becoming the Britney Spears of the NFL. No matter what he does makes the headlines somewhere, it's ridiculous. Yes, he has a history of fallouts with quarterbacks/organizations, but he's been nothing but a model citizen in Dallas.

All he said was they need to throw him the ball. What receiver hasn't said that at one point or another?

Didn't TO get 12 passes from Romo in that 'Skins game? I think TO also dropped a crucial pass that could've been a TD. TO just need to shut up and play.

[Mister J]

He got thrown to 17 times and had 2 carries on end-arounds. Him saying he didn't get the ball enough is just dumb. All receivers want the ball, but the context in which he made the statement makes no sense; it's like he thinks he only got a couple of looks.

The real problem with Dallas' statsheet for that game is that Barber only had 8 carries.

[Immortalfire]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/

God bless the Bengals, :funny:

:lmao:

[Double Down]

Al Davis looks like a melting candle. What a bitterman. I hope Lane Kiffin goes on to be the next Shanahan.

[Raiden]

He got thrown to 17 times and had 2 carries on end-arounds. Him saying he didn't get the ball enough is just dumb. All receivers want the ball, but the context in which he made the statement makes no sense; it's like he thinks he only got a couple of looks.

The real problem with Dallas' statsheet for that game is that Barber only had 8 carries.

If Cowboys want to win more games, then they establish their running games despite TO's whine for more passes in his way. Cowboys have a good OL and two outstanding backs, Marion Barber and Felix Jones. If these two were involved more I think 'Boys would've beaten 'Skins in that game.

[Excel]

Al is so damn ugly :dry:

[BLACKVULCAN]

it's alot more than the media going after T.O He's also a B**** he told the media. Jeff garcia was gay. when the guy had two playmate models fighting over him. He stirred up crap with D Mac in philly. i am not a cowboys fan but i am Glad Emmett smith clocked his ass when he ran in the middle of their star twice during that game.Where he got suspended by Steve Maruchi.To say that T.O dont bring this stuff on himself is wrong.he's a hell of a football player but he needs to take a clue from Barry Sanders and like someone just said shut the **** up and just play, but i think its cool now cause i want him stirring stuff up in Dallas, and not all WR are divas.my boy Jerry Rice never complained about not getting the ball. He was one classy guy.

[Go Web Go!]

Quick, turn on ESPN! It's a talking corpse!

Anyway, back to TO...yes, they gave him plenty of looks against the 'Skins, but they were mostly short plays (an average of 10 yds. I think it was) I think he specifically means he wants more of the deep ball, big plays, whatever you want to call it. If that were the case, the Cowboys might have won the game and all would have been fine and dandy - as it was a few games ago when TO caught only a few balls (2?) and said after the game that he didn't care because Dallas won.

[BlackLantern]

Al Davis looks good for 970 years old

[Dr. Evil]

Bengals sign Ced Benson.

[Marx]

Source: Dallas Morning News

T.O. needs to just shut up and play.

[Double Down]

Larry Fitzgerald is not a diva.

[Double Down]

Neither is Marques Colston.

[Go Web Go!]

I like this game.

...or Wes Welker.

[Dark Donnie]

Raiders Offense-TM-Raiders Sep. 30 - 5:54 pm et

Raiders owner Al Davis accused recently fired coach Lane Kiffin of lying and propaganda that had been going on for months.
In a lively and at times bizarre press conference, Davis added that Lane wanted to hire his father Monte as defensive coordinator, and that Monte was on board with the plan. According to Davis, Kiffin asked to be let go for a possible college job and Bobby Petrino left the Falcons so suddenly in order to beat Kiffin to Arkansas. Other highlights: Davis blamed Kiffin for trading Randy Moss and referred to ESPN's Chris Mortensen as a "professional liar."

Sad

[Belvedere]

Sad

Awh shucks, Al.

I don't think he could actually sink any lower. :o

[Double Down]

Kiffin can sue for more than just contract money owed now. That conference was an actionable mistake.

[Raiden]

Sad

What we saw was a senile old man who has gone off the deep end. I hope Kiffin sues him for breach of contract after this.

[Mister J]

This business with Al's press conference is like some bad soap opera storyline.

[Dr. Evil]

At least we know that Al Davis is still alive.

[Mister J]

Yeah, I didn't see any puppeteers or anything.

[Dr. Evil]

OL Coach Tom Cable takes over in the interim for the Raiders.

[BlackLantern]

If I was Kiffin, I would sue for the remainder of my contract and after that press conference, slander and defamation of character

[Dr. Evil]

Rams bench Trent Green.........For Marc Bulger

[Double Down]

Who did Kiffin want to draft instead of Russell?

[Zephyr Alexian]

If I was Kiffin, I would sue for the remainder of my contract and after that press conference, slander and defamation of character

Definitely. Interestingly enough, Chris Mortensen reported that Davis had previously fired a young Mike Shanahan and didn't pay him the remainder of his contract. That was before the coaches association though. A raw deal for Kiffen indeed.

[Dark Donnie]

Who did Kiffin want to draft instead of Russell?

I'm guessing he wanted to trade back and go defense.

[Double Down]

A reporter asked Al Davis if the offensive line would suffer with the OL coach becoming the head coach. Davis said he was concerned but pointed to Cable said, "but he can talk." Is that the only requirement now for being the Raiders coach?

[Raiden]

Definitely. Interestingly enough, Chris Mortensen reported that Davis had previously fired a young Mike Shanahan and didn't pay him the remainder of his contract. That was before the coaches association though. A raw deal for Kiffen indeed.

It's no wonder that Shanahan still hates Al Davis years after he left Raiders, and relish in beating the hapless Raiders up whenever his Broncos play them.

[Dark Donnie]

The funny thing about this is, The Raiders O-Line is terrible, yet they hire the O-Line coach.

[Double Down]

A reporter asked if Cable is an "interim coach." Aren't all Raiders coaches interim coaches?

[Raiden]

The funny thing about this is, The Raiders O-Line is terrible, yet they hire the O-Line coach.

Cable probably won the "kiss Al Davis' ass" contest, that's why he's the new HC. :hehe:

[Nightmare]

Who will suck worse the rest of the season, Raiders or Rams?

[Dark Donnie]

Anyone see Kiffin on ESPN? You can tell he's gonna sue :)

[Double Down]

Did anyone who saw both talk believe Al Davis over Kiffin ?