2008 NFL Thread

[Excel]

Managing teams is a lot different than everybody thinks. It starts with the offensive line. If you make them good, you just need a decent running back to have success. Than recievers. guys like Dwayne Bowe or Brandon Marshall that will make your quarterback BETTER. Its not about finding ther Tom Brady or Peyton Manning; or the next LT. Its about the guys who set them up to do well.

[Alex The Great]

Again, this is Psycho Symbiote we're talking about... he doesn't know jack about managing an NFL team.
heh.
true :csad::up:

oh well.....

[Fran]

Not trying to be mean there... it's just smart, money-wise.

[Alex The Great]

i know. But hey. 7 time pro-bowler will be trde worthy for a young player or 2. oh well.....Miami aint my team so :woot:

[BlackLantern]

Parcells is going for a whole new thing in Miami, that means all the old luggage has to go....Zack Thomas, great career he has had, is not getting any younger

[Dark Donnie]

Excel

Felix Jones-RB-Player Feb. 14 - 8:42 pm et

Arkansas RBs Felix Jones and Darren McFadden are training with former gold medal sprinter Michael Johnson in preparation for the 2008 NFL Draft.

Johnson's program is designed to maximize speed in before the Combine. It seems unlikely that McFadden would take part in something like this if he didn't plan to run the 40. Of course, he may not be registering great times on the stop watch. We'd still take Jones over McFadden in a race.
Source: dallascowboys.com
Related: Darren McFadden, Cowboys

[Dark Donnie]

Managing teams is a lot different than everybody thinks. It starts with the offensive line. If you make them good, you just need a decent running back to have success. Than recievers. guys like Dwayne Bowe or Brandon Marshall that will make your quarterback BETTER. Its not about finding ther Tom Brady or Peyton Manning; or the next LT. Its about the guys who set them up to do well.

Like you said O Line is important but just as important is D Line. If you can pressure the QB and protect the QB you will win(i.e. Giants)..I really don't think RB is really important in terms of where you draft one.....Some of the better RB's this past year weren't first round guys.

[BlackLantern]

Jesse Armstead just hemmed somebody up on Pros Vs Joes....

[NewYorkSpider]

Bengals just announced they will not trade Chad Johnson.

They seriously should trade him. He has a contract through 2011. If he's not happy, then they shouldn't keep him.

[Dark Donnie]

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Report: Panthers shopping DeShaun Foster

ESPN's Pat Yasinkas reports the Panthers are shopping DeShaun Foster.

Yasinkas used to cover the Panthers' beat, so he has the inside track on any team developments. With a $5.8 million cap number, other clubs likely know Foster will eventually be released if Carolina can't find a taker. Foster played poorly last year, averaging just 3.5 yards per carry and losing five fumbles. A team inquiring would have to restructure his contract. Feb. 14 - 10:45 pm et
Source: ESPN.com

[StorminNorman]

Hell no, McFaddens stock is plummeting. Both Medenhall and Stewart are expected to be taken over him, and they will both have better seasons than him assuming all 3 start.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=199100

McFadden will have the same problem as Reggie Bush has-he'll be so zeroed in on and focused on by defenses that hell never get into the open field to show his skills, and he wont be able to shake tacklers, which is the main reason AD has been so successful.

If he can gain a good 20 lbs of muscle by camp well talk, but until then....no way.

Guy I like too is Chris Johnson...kids runs a 4.19 :eek:


Chris Johnson is a kick returner in the NFL, not a RB.

McFadden played in the biggest, fastest, strongest conference in college football. Actually, he THRIVED in it. On the field he out performed AD who had a better overall team around him.

There is NO way McFadden is not the number one back drafted.

He is a star.

[Dark Donnie]

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Rod Coleman-DL-Falcons Feb. 15 - 11:13 am et

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports that the Falcons have released DT Rod Coleman.

And so the storm begins in Atlanta. Coleman was once one of the better DTs in the league, but the 10-year vet had been declining and missed the end of last season due to injury. He'll likely catch on elsewhere, and is surely the first of a great number of cuts coming up for the Falcons.
Source: Atlanta Journal-Constitution

[danielisthor]

After the release of Zack Thomas, the Dolphins are somewhere around 35million under the expected cap number of 116million for the next season. Parcell's is going to have alot of money to improve this team.

[Excel]

Chris Johnson is a kick returner in the NFL, not a RB.

McFadden played in the biggest, fastest, strongest conference in college football. Actually, he THRIVED in it. On the field he out performed AD who had a better overall team around him.

There is NO way McFadden is not the number one back drafted.

He is a star.

And Reggie Bush is a megastar, that doesnt mean you do well. Medenhall and Stewart will have more productive rookie seasons than mcfadden will.

[Mister J]

And Reggie Bush is a megastar.
Umm ...no he's not. :dry:

[Fran]

^ Yeah.

[Dark Donnie]

And Reggie Bush is a megastar, that doesnt mean you do well. Medenhall and Stewart will have more productive rookie seasons than mcfadden will.

Reggie Bust is more of a celebrity then he is a great football player. He has done nothing in the NFL to warrant MEGASTAR....he's been average to below at RB

[Raiden]

Reggie Bust is more of a celebrity then he is a great football player. He has done nothing in the NFL to warrant MEGASTAR....he's been average to below at RB

Yeah, he's more of a mega hype than a mega star. If he got convicted of accepting money at USC, his Heisman would also be taken away and he'd be left with nothing.

[Excel]

Being a star does not mean your good. I didnt say he desereved it, he's in the top 5 most famous players in the NFL easily behind Brady, Manning, Moss, and T.O.

I would say Reggie Bush is more well known than LT. He has more commercials, more endorsements...Romos catching up, but hes not there yet.

[Fran]

Yeah, but that doesn't make him an amazing supermegaawesomestar football player.

[Excel]

Wheres your avy?

Being a "star" is all about how well known and famous you are. Being "great" is about how well you do.

Norm called him a "star" ad I agreed; McFaddens by far the most talked about and famous player from his draft, but that does not mean he will good.

Case in point...Reggie Bush.

Let me be clear, like Bush, I dont think McFadden will become great inthe NFL till his 3rd season. I expect Reggie to be a monster next year.

[Dark Donnie]

Carnell Williams-RB-Buccaneers Feb. 15 - 1:24 pm et

The best Cadillac Williams (torn patellar tendon) could hope for is returning at midseason in 2008, according to the Orlando Sentinel.

Cadillac has time to make advancements in his rehab, but no outlook we've heard has been positive. The Bucs retained Michael Bennett as a change of pace behind Earnest Graham, showing they're not counting on Williams.
Source: Orlando Sentinel


Earnest Graham-RB-Buccaneers Feb. 15 - 1:08 pm et

The Bucs began talks about a long-term deal with Earnest Graham last week.

He's slated to earn $605,000 in 2008, the last year on his contract. Graham, who recently hired agent Drew Rosenhaus, could get a deal approaching Justin Fargas' three-year, $12 million pact. He is likely to start this season.
Source: St. Petersburg Times


Rod Smith-WR-Broncos Feb. 15 - 11:20 am et

Broncos placed Rod Smith on the reserve/retired list.

It's not an official retirement, but it's a step in that direction. Smith now won't count against the team's 80-man offseason roster or its salary cap. Still, Smith is holding out hope that he can return, and as unlikely as that seems, the team will hold off on a retirement press conference for now.
Source: Denver Post

:up: to Rod Smith's career

[Dark Donnie]

Kinda suprising

Crumpler among cuts in Falcons' roster purge

Falcons released seven players Friday, including four-time Pro Bowl TE Alge Crumpler.

Feb. 15 - 1:54 pm et

[Dark Donnie]

Damn Immortal, Falcons are cutting the fat. Definately some REALLY notable cuts, Crumpler, Harrington, Leftwich, Gandy, and Coleman.

I heard Dunn was a possibility

[Cmill216]

Of course the organization isn't counting on Cadillac Williams. For one thing, he should be renamed: Glassman Williams sounds about right.

[Dark Donnie]

That really has turned into a recurring story(injury)

[Immortalfire]

Damn Immortal, Falcons are cutting the fat. Definately some REALLY notable cuts, Crumpler, Harrington, Leftwich, Gandy, and Coleman.

I heard Dunn was a possibility

Yup, we gotta move ahead and rebuild. As for Dunn, I love him to death, but he's really been slowing down. Time to go.

[Cmill216]

That really has turned into a recurring story(injury)

He missed several games in both '05 and '06 because of foot injuries. Cracked a rib in the season opener this year, three weeks before the knee injury that ended his season.

Dude's brittle.

[Dark Donnie]

Yup, we gotta move ahead and rebuild. As for Dunn, I love him to death, but he's really been slowing down. Time to go.

There was talk about them possibly going after McFadden is he's there. Who do you think they'll go after?

[Immortalfire]

I want us to pump up our O-line. My eyes saw that as why Harrington got sacked so much and had no time to throw; little to no protection. Some want us to get Glenn Dorsey, big ole tackle from LSU.
As popular as McFadden is, he may get taken before we have our first pick. However his Ark teammate Felix Jones can also run like crazy, so he'd be a good pick up too.

[Mee]

I can't believe the Falcons cut Crumpler.



Mostly I just really like his name. :csad::o

[Dark Donnie]

I can't believe the Falcons cut Crumpler.



Mostly I just really like his name. :csad::o

Algernon Darius Crumpler is a great name

[Immortalfire]

Algernon Darius Crumpler is a great name

:up:

[Showtime]

I am way behind here.

Has Zach Thomas been officially released?
Has there been talk of him coming to the Patriots?
I heard the Patriots also might try to swing a trade for Jason Taylor?

[Mee]

Yeah Thomas got cut.


As for the rest, I dunno. The last thing the Pats need is another ancient linebacker though. :huh:

[Showtime]

Yeah Thomas got cut.


As for the rest, I dunno. The last thing the Pats need is another ancient linebacker though. :huh:

If they picked up Thomas he would be the youngest linebacker on the team! :oldrazz:

[Mee]

Heh, wow.

[BlackLantern]

I don't see zach thomas getting snatched up right away....even if he does I dont see him starting

[signalman]

Ex-St. Louis Rams player Willie Gary has file suit against the Patriots, Robert Kraft, and Bill Belichick because of SPYGATE.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-patriotssued&prov=ap&type=lgns

[Mee]

Is "they beat me in the Super Bowl! :csad:" really an accepted reason to sue? :huh:

[Mister J]

100M? Really? :dry:

These idiots should be publicly caned and the dumbass lawyer who agreed to represent them should have the hell kicked out of him by some random and disgruntled ex-Navy SEAL.

[Showtime]

Is Fran part of the defense team?

[ScottyBBadd]

I can't believe the Falcons cut Crumpler.



Mostly I just really like his name. :csad::o

He is a killer pass catching TE.

[ScottyBBadd]

I want us to pump up our O-line. My eyes saw that as why Harrington got sacked so much and had no time to throw; little to no protection. Some want us to get Glenn Dorsey, big ole tackle from LSU.

Glen Dorsey projects to be the top pick.


As popular as McFadden is, he may get taken before we have our first pick. However his Ark teammate Felix Jones can also run like crazy, so he'd be a good pick up too.

If your Falcons pick 3rd McFadden maybe avalable. However, if Felix Jones is the pick, your Flacons need to trade down. The Dallas Cowboys are holding two 1st rounders. If The pick is 4 or 5, and McFadden is not there Jake Long OT out of Michigan is the logical pick.

[Dark Donnie]

Asante Samuel-DB-Patriots Feb. 17 - 10:56 am et

The Boston Herald suggests the Browns could make a play for free agent CB Asante Samuel.

The Jets, who pursued Samuel last year, will also be in the mix. Samuel's first defensive coordinator was current Browns head coach Romeo Crennel. Acquiring Samuel would allow Cleveland to move Eric Wright to nickel back.
Source: Boston Herald
Related: Browns, Jets

Cedric Benson-RB-Bears Feb. 17 - 10:18 am et

The Chicago Sun Times believes the Bears may use their first-round draft pick on a running back.

The Bears hold the 14th overall pick. A running back would be a difficult sell, considering Chicago has already invested a $35 million contract in Cedric Benson. GM Jerry Angelo has vowed to acquire offensive talent this offseason. With Bernard Berrian leaving and RT Fred Miller likely to be cut, the Bears have two other needs that appear to be bigger priorities.
Source: Chicago Sun Times

:word:

[Alex The Great]

Bears will trade up IMO.

[The Apocalypse]

I can see Zach Thomas going to the Rams or Lions.

[ScottyBBadd]

The Bears should go QB.

[rdh007]

What? Rex is King!

[Kaleb]

Bears shouldnt waste a pick on a Qb in the first round, they should draft one in the later rounds and pick up a free agent qb (i.e like Daunte Culpepper)

[ScottyBBadd]

I don't see zach thomas getting snatched up right away....even if he does I dont see him starting

I would like the Cowboys to pick up Zack Thomas

[Fran]

Is Fran part of the defense team?

Hardy har har.

[BlackLantern]

I would like the Cowboys to pick up Zack Thomas

why?? so he can help you lose another playoff game to the Giants??

[Fran]

That wasn't well thought out.

[Cmill216]

why?? so he can help you lose another playoff game to the Giants??

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/659/facepalmsx0.gif

[LegendaryCaleb]

I can see Zach Thomas going to the Rams or Lions.
i surely wouldnt mind him comin!!

[BlackLantern]

he would probably be a good fit in Detroit

[NewYorkSpider]

He might end up in Houston.

[Alex The Great]

What? Rex is King!
:huh: :o :whatever: :oldrazz: :huh: :o


rex is teh sux :down

[Jerry!]

The Bears need offensive linemen. Almost everything stems from that with their problems on offense.

[Dark Donnie]

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Belichick: I have never filmed a walkthrough

Bill Belichick and Scott Pioli strongly denied taping the Rams' 2002 Super Bowl walk-through practice.

"In my entire coaching career, I've never seen another team's practice film prior to playing that team," Belichick said. I have never authorized, or heard of, or even seen in any way, shape, or form any other team's walkthrough. We don't even film our own." Belichick also apologized to his team, the league, other teams and fans for the entire videotape mess, while trying to explain how he interpretated the rules before. Scott Pioli said that Walsh was fired in 2003 for illegally taping conversations with him. Feb. 18 - 8:32 am et
Source: Boston Globe

why?? so he can help you lose another playoff game to the Giants??

Quit gloating:o

[BlackLantern]

...




Quit gloating:o

Quit hating:oldrazz:

[Oh Snap!]

The Bears'll see to their O-Line problems in the first round, (I should think Jeff Otah should still be around by #14, alot of the others will be gone) and then pick up Joe Flacco in the second.

[Excel]

where is frans avy???

[Fran]

I was a very disobedient poster.

[BlackLantern]

so are your avy privileges gone permanently??

[Fran]

Until March 15th at noon.

[BlackLantern]

Ouch....sorry man....I read some of what happened....I guess it was just a ****ed up situation

[Fran]

A big misunderstanding for all. But I was asleep while it happened :up:

[BlackLantern]

I got my first warning last week....but it was kinda deserved...in any case the world moves on

[E. Nygma]

Zach Thomas will end up with either the Dallas Cowboys or the team that Jim Bates ends up going to, IMO.

Jerry Jones wouldn't pass up an oppertunity to sign a homegrown Texan boy who's a terrific big name player when he's healthy.

[Dark Donnie]

Alge Crumpler-TE-Falcons Feb. 18 - 1:02 pm et

In addition to the Panthers and Bucs, the Tampa Tribune reports the Colts and Saints are showing interest in free agent Alge Crumpler.

The Colts would be a surprise landing spot, as they're expected to apply the franchise tag to Dallas Clark and have a strong backup in Ben Utecht. The Saints make sense with Eric Johnson also a free agent. All these teams must wait for Crumpler to clear the waiver wire before setting up visits.
Source: Tampa Tribune
Related: Panthers, Colts, Saints, Buccaneers

[StorminNorman]

The Colts?

[Cmill216]

Alge in Tampa? Kinda surprising, but that'd be a huge boost for the offense.

[BlackLantern]

it will be interesting to see how both Atlanta and Miami do next season after their respective house cleaning

[FaT_tONle]

I would like the Cowboys to pick up Zack Thomas

Nah... I mean yeah a veteran is nice to have but this guy is too old... he can't blitz anymore... and certainly ain't gonna help the pass coverage... they need to sign either a veteran nickel corner... and draft a corner as well.

[Dark Donnie]

Reports: Eagles allow Sheppard to seek trade

NFL Network and ESPNews both report that the Eagles have given CB Lito Sheppard permission to seek a trade.

A shocker. Sheppard hasn't completed a 16-game season since 2003, but is only 26 and the Birds' best cover corner when healthy. Philadelphia would take a $2.9 million cap hit to move him. The Eagles are not deep at cornerback, so it's unclear how they'd atone for losing the two-time All Pro. Feb. 18 - 5:58 pm et


:csad:

[Alex The Great]

:csad:
:facepalm:

[Showtime]

Hardy har har.

Come on, for me that was funny! Plus, I tease because I love.

[Showtime]

Posted: February 18, 2008
Sporting News staff reports

Zach Thomas will visit the Patriots today in Foxboro, Mass., a league source told the Boston Herald.

That makes the Patriots the first team that the 34-year-old linebacker will visit after being released by the Dolphins last week. Thomas, a seven-time Pro Bowler, also will visit the Cowboys and Saints, the newspaper reports.

Thomas has piled up 982 tackles in his 12-year career but played just five games last season while suffering from migraines.

Interesting.

[rdh007]

Pats = Yankees

[Alex The Great]

Interesting.
i knew it :o

youngin up our team damn it :down:cmad:

[Showtime]

i knew it :o

youngin up our team damn it :down:cmad:

He'd be one of the youngest LB's on the roster. :csad:

[Dark Donnie]

Asante Samuel-DB-Patriots Feb. 18 - 10:19 pm et

The Eagles are "believed to be targeting" impending free agent CB Asante Samuel.

PhillyBurbs.com believes the Birds are "certainly" fielding offers for Lito Sheppard, whose place at left corner Samuel would take. Samuel is more durable than Sheppard, but older and would cost way more. Philadelphia is said to be down on Sheppard because of his constant injuries.
Source: phillyburbs.com
Related: Eagles
:up:

[Dark Donnie]

Keyshawn Johnson-WR-Panthers Feb. 19 - 12:54 pm et

Keyshawn Johnson told Yahoo! Sports that he is seriously considering a comeback.

"The challenge of helping to turn a team around, to help get it to the next level, that gets my competitive fires burning. I have the itch, and right now I'm trying to decide how strong that itch is," Johnson said. Bill Parcells has reportedly already offered Johnson a spot on the Dolphins, and the Titans and Raiders have also expressed interest in the past.
Source: Yahoo!
Related: Dolphins, Raiders, Titans

[Immortalfire]

Keyshawn Johnson-WR-Panthers Feb. 19 - 12:54 pm et

Keyshawn Johnson told Yahoo! Sports that he is seriously considering a comeback.

"The challenge of helping to turn a team around, to help get it to the next level, that gets my competitive fires burning. I have the itch, and right now I'm trying to decide how strong that itch is," Johnson said. Bill Parcells has reportedly already offered Johnson a spot on the Dolphins, and the Titans and Raiders have also expressed interest in the past.
Source: Yahoo!
Related: Dolphins, Raiders, Titans

:whatever:

He needs to stay on ESPN so he can do what he does best; talk.

[rdh007]

Agreed.

[Showtime]

Patriots offer Zach Thomas a contract.

[Dark Donnie]

Will The Falcons have a team?

DeAngelo Hall-DB-Falcons Feb. 19 - 7:07 pm et

The Falcons are reportedly gauging trade interest in CB DeAngelo Hall, who enters the final year of his contract in 2008.

New coach Mike Smith wants to wrap up Hall long term, but the Falcons are tearing the roster apart before building it back up. If they can get a late first-round pick for Hall, they'll almost certainly pull the trigger. Hall is on record as saying he wants to be dealt if he doesn't get a new contract.
Source: Atlanta Journal-Constitution

[Oh Snap!]

Will The Falcons have a team?

You mean, they had a team before? :huh:

[Alex The Great]

He'd be one of the youngest LB's on the roster. :csad:
:csad:X2


Keyshawn Johnson-WR-Panthers Feb. 19 - 12:54 pm et

Keyshawn Johnson told Yahoo! Sports that he is seriously considering a comeback.

"The challenge of helping to turn a team around, to help get it to the next level, that gets my competitive fires burning. I have the itch, and right now I'm trying to decide how strong that itch is," Johnson said. Bill Parcells has reportedly already offered Johnson a spot on the Dolphins, and the Titans and Raiders have also expressed interest in the past.
Source: Yahoo!
Related: Dolphins, Raiders, Titans
:whatever:


Patriots offer Zach Thomas a contract.
really? great....get a old...old...player. and he's the youngest on that position. :csad:.

Will The Falcons have a team?
oy. why are they even IN the NFL?

You mean, they had a team before? :huh:
hehe. well played, sir :up:

[Dark Donnie]

GM: Browns close to deal with QB Anderson

Browns GM Phil Savage says the team is closing in on a three-year contract with restricted free agent Derek Anderson.

"We've had pretty good dialogue," Savage said. "I do feel like it is going to get done." It's surprising Anderson's side would retreat to a three-year deal after initially requesting six- and seven-year pacts. Still, Anderson could enter the free agent market in 2011, possibly without a salary cap, at the age of 27. Feb. 19 - 9:05 pm et
Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer

[Fran]

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k287/lforlucas/LuthorRantPost.jpg

This needs to be remembered.

[Alex The Great]

that post will be topped....this year :ninja::up:

[Fran]

NOTHING will ever top that post.

[Showtime]

Psycho, After seeing what Seau did and other older linebackers, why wouldn't you want Zach Thomas in a limited role. I think it's a good signing. Don't forget they have A. Thomas and Colvin is coming back, he was injured.

Linebackers: Vrabel, Bruschi, Colvin, A. Thomas, Z Thomas, Seau.

[Alex The Great]

NOTHING will ever top that post.
lies :ninja:



i wonder if Miami will make another piss poor draft pick in the first round :o

[Fran]

They'll draft Mike Hart :o:o:o

[Cmill216]

I just noticed something about The Post.

He edited it. :cmad:

[chuckymack]

You heard it here, first. The Pats' window is closing. Two more years, TOPS.

[Alex The Great]

Psycho, After seeing what Seau did and other older linebackers, why wouldn't you want Zach Thomas in a limited role. I think it's a good signing. Don't forget they have A. Thomas and Colvin is coming back, he was injured.

Linebackers: Vrabel, Bruschi, Colvin, A. Thomas, Z Thomas, Seau.
true. but there old........Rolling Stones old :csad:


youngin up the team damn it! :cmad:

[Showtime]

You heard it here, first. The Pats' window is closing. Two more years, TOPS.

I'll take that.

[Showtime]

true. but there old........Rolling Stones old :csad:


youngin up the team damn it! :cmad:

Bruschi: 35
Colvin: 31
Vrabel: 33
Seau: 39
Z. Thomas: 34
A. Thomas: 31

Sure they are an aging core, but I think that having that much talent with the ability to rest them and rotate players is a plus. I think it is a strong part of their defense. I think the secondary is in trouble.

[Excel]

Colvins gone now way they pick up his 6 million option, and Id take Thomas. If they can sign asante and moss, what do we need to draft? Another shut down corner ala mike jenkiins or the next adlalius thomas in vernon gholston.

[Cunning Stunts]

Steelers for #6!

[Dark Donnie]

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Dwight Smith-DB-Vikings Feb. 20 - 4:37 pm et

Vikings released FS Dwight Smith.

He would've cost the Vikings $3.1 million in 2008 and Brad Childress had enough of Smith's off-field antics. Minnesota's pass defense was also very mediocre last year. Smith may struggle to find a starting job in free agency.
Source: Minneapolis Star-Tribune


Albert Haynesworth-DL-Titans Feb. 20 - 4:24 pm et

The Titans officially placed the franchise tag on Albert Haynesworth.

He will earn $7.25 million if he plays under the tag, but don't expect him to sign for a while. The Titans and Haynesworth will work on a long-term deal, but both sides have some motivation to put it off. Haynesworth's effort has been inconsistent in his career, but another All Pro year could make him the richest defender in the league.
Source: Nashville Tennessean


Nnamdi Asomugha-DB-Raiders Feb. 20 - 4:24 pm et

Raiders named CB Nnamdi Asomugha their franchise player.

The cornerback tender is $9,465,000. Asomugha didn't repeat his eight-pick season from 2006 last year, but that was because opponents rarely threw at the 26-year-old. Through the first 14 weeks, only 27 passes were thrown at the Raiders' left corner. Nine of the attempts were complete.
Source: Profootballtalk.com

[Dark Donnie]

Bubba Franks-TE- Packers Feb. 20 - 6:13 pm et


Packers released TE Bubba Franks.

When healthy, Franks was an effective blocker and red-zone option in '07, but his body is beginning to fall apart. Franks certainly wouldn't have been worth the $3.5 million he was due. Old pal Mike Holmgren could bring him on as a backup for around the minimum, but he's nowhere near starting caliber.
Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel
Related: Seahawks

Marcus Trufant-DB- Seahawks Feb. 20 - 6:31 pm et


The Seahawks have applied the franchise tag on CB Marcus Trufant.

The Seahawks seemed unsure about whether Trufant was worth paying $9.46 million this season, but this was the best move. Trufant was one of the game's best corners in 2007 following an inconsistent career. Seattle's secondary now has excellent depth. Ten players have been franchised, including three corners, which should make Asante Samuel a happy man.
Source: Profootballtalk.com
Related: Asante Samuel

Dallas Clark-TE- Colts Feb. 20 - 6:22 pm et


The Associated Press reports that the Colts signed Dallas Clark to a six-year contract extension. Terms haven't been disclosed.

They named Clark their franchise player yesterday, but now have freed up some '08 cap space. Clark is more of a wide receiver than a tight end, but he perfectly fits what the Colts do on offense. Even if Marvin Harrison doesn't fully come back, Peyton Manning has enough weapons to keep the Colts offense humming.


What what the money was on Dallas Clarks' contract?

[steintym]

i wonder if Miami will make another piss poor draft pick in the first round :o

Probably not with Bill running the show now. He's got a pretty good history of making solid picks (although he makes his money with later rounds).

[steintym]

You heard it here, first. The Pats' window is closing. Two more years, TOPS.

Having a top QB and solid O-Line makes all of the difference. They might not be Super Bowl material in a few, but they probably won't bottom out if those two things remain.

[Jerry!]

Yeah it's not like they had a super star studded team when they won their 3 championships before.

[Excel]

What yall talking bout? Long as Belichicks there they are fine, but their lines are both young for the most part, young running back young recivers in welker n jackson...
Im really starting to like malcolm kelly...

6'4, 217, runs in the 4.4's and has some good hands.

Hes faster than James Hardy and bigger than Manningham and has more ups than both!

Just watch these vids.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=T9W7nTi4JFQ
^check 1:24

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cX7dSoIGp6A&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=f9ZHjgrXArI

All around he is the best reciever in the draft and with McNabb he could be a star. We MUST get him.

[Cmill216]

:lmao:


One NFL front office man tells the Chicago Tribune that Hawaii QB Colt Brennan has come off as a "jackass" during interviews.

Brennan suffered a hip pointer at the Senior Bowl and reportedly showed less than adequate arm strength, so the least he can do is interview well. While Brennan arguably is the most accurate passer in the draft, it seems clear that his stock is no longer close to first-day pick territory.

[Dark Donnie]

... Jamal Lewis-RB-Browns Feb. 21 - 9:11 am et

GM Phil Savage said on the radio early Thursday that a deal between the Browns and prospective free agent Jamal Lewis is "imminent."

The contract would be for two years with an option for a third. The deal's worth would probably be a base of $12-13 million and around $5-6 million guaranteed. Savage says Lewis could sign within the next 24 hours.
Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer


Bernard Berrian-WR-Bears Feb. 21 - 9:07 am et

The Bears are not expected to use their franchise tag on impending free agent Bernard Berrian.

They want to avoid another dispute with his agent, Drew Rosenhaus. The Bears reportedly still hope to strike deals with Berrian, Lance Briggs, Brendon Ayanbadejo, and Rex Grossman before the start of free agency. If Berrian isn't tagged, the Bears will enter March with returner Devin Hester and last year's fifth receiver, Mark Bradley, as their starting wideouts.
Source: Chicago Sun Times


Travis Henry-RB-Broncos Feb. 21 - 8:51 am et

Travis Henry has agreed to a restructured contract that will keep him in Denver for the upcoming season.

He likely had most of the $6 million option bonus he was due reduced. It's a smart move for Henry. The Broncos aren't ready to pass the starting job onto Selvin Young, and Henry staying makes it far less likely that they'll use a high pick on a running back. Henry's style still suits the one-cut system, and he was productive in 2007 when healthy, leading the NFL in rushing the first four weeks. He'll be the favorite to start and heavy favorite for goal-line carries.
Source: Denver Post
Related: Selvin Young

[Dark Donnie]

...
Ken Hamlin-DB-Cowboys Feb. 21 - 12:53 am et

The Cowboys will meet with the representatives for free agent FS Ken Hamlin at the Combine this weekend.

The Fort Worth Star-Telegram suggests that Dallas may place the franchise tender on Hamlin if early morning talks don't go well Thursday. The deadline to use the tag is 4PM ET. The franchise number for safeties is $4.3 million.
Source: Dallas Morning News


Lance Briggs-LB-Bears Feb. 21 - 12:45 am et

A source close to impending free agent Lance Briggs says the Bears' renewed contract offer still falls short of what he's seeking.

It looks like he'll hit the market, not that there was ever much doubt. Those known to be interested in Briggs are Washington and San Francisco, although the Bills, Saints, and Broncos could also join the bidding.
Source: Chicago Tribune
Related: Bills, Broncos, Saints, 49ers, Redskins

[steintym]

Briggs has been waiting to hit the open market. Unless the Bears made a ridiculous offer, there's no way he won't at least see what's out there.

[Showtime]

I think if Matt Walsh has anything...it's probably a recorded conversation, that points to possible cheating.

Walk-Thrus aren't as official as most of you might think, sometimes they do them in hotel rooms or even at restaraunts. It's not necessarily something that happens on the field.

[Dark Donnie]

I think if Matt Walsh has anything...it's probably a recorded conversation, that points to possible cheating.

Walk-Thrus aren't as official as most of you might think, sometimes they do them in hotel rooms or even at restaraunts. It's not necessarily something that happens on the field.

I believe it was stated the Walk Through he has was right before the game, The view was from one of the endzones.

[Immortalfire]

:lmao:

He's still nursing the Bulldog smackdown that was thrown on him.:oldrazz:

[Showtime]

I believe it was stated the Walk Through he has was right before the game, The view was from one of the endzones.

I will wait until it's confirmed that he actually has anything.

[Dark Donnie]

Ronnie Brown-RB-Dolphins Feb. 21 - 10:32 am et

Ronnie Brown's recovery from a torn ACL is "apparently going very well," according to the Miami Herald.

Brown should be back in time for training camp, and quite possibly sooner. The Dolphins still have to find a backup RB and at least one starting tackle.
Source: Miami Herald

[Dark Donnie]

Ken Hamlin-DB-Cowboys Feb. 21 - 2:32 pm et

Adam Schefter of the NFL Network reports that the Cowboys have used the franchise tag on S Ken Hamlin.

The Pro Bowler finished the season with 62 tackles and five interceptions while starting for the Cowboys. He will make $4.3 million, and it's the first time the Cowboys have used the franchise tag since placing it on LT FLozell Adams in 2002. Ironically, putting the tag on Hamlin means that Adams will likely become an unrestricted free agent next week.
Related: Flozell Adams

[Dark Donnie]

Per Rotoworld..

Patriots elect not to tag Randy Moss

The Patriots have elected not to place the franchise tag on Randy Moss.

The story was first reported by ESPN's John Clayton. Feb. 21 - 4:35 pm et

[Raiden]

^ I guess Pats think they can make Welker their #1 WR, so they don't need Moss.

[Dark Donnie]

^ I guess Pats think they can make Welker their #1 WR, so they don't need Moss.

A couple sites indicate that The Pats might have a long term deal already worked out which is why they didn't franchise him.


Cmill
Report: Bucs considering trade for J. Walker

The Bucs and Broncos are in trade discussions involving Javon Walker, according to the St. Petersburg Times.

The sides have done business in the past, but it'd be a surprise if a deal actually happens. Walker is almost certain to be cut before his $5.4 million option bonus comes due March 4. If healthy, he'd be an excellent fit in Jon Gruden's West Coast attack, but his balky knee makes Walker a huge risk. Feb. 21 - 6:53 pm et
Source: St. Petersburg Times

[Cmill216]

That's a big IF, regarding his health.

They better not do it for anything higher than a fourth.

[Showtime]

^ I guess Pats think they can make Welker their #1 WR, so they don't need Moss.

Reports here are that they are finalizing a deal.

[Mister J]

What's the Hype record for most mods as regular participants in a thread? :dry:

Congrats Show. :up:

-----------------------------------
Competition Committee Considering Changing Playoff Seeding Rules (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3257498)

Do it.

[Excel]

If they didnt franchise him, they have a deal. Its not so much Moss but Brady would be PISSED.

[Cmill216]

Moss isn't going anywhere. The "drama" of that situation is hilarious.

[BlackLantern]

Moss will take a pay cut if needs be to stay in NE...he knows its his best chance for a ring at this point in his career

[The Game]

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/22/sports/football/22patriots.html?_r=3&ref=sports&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Will this ever end? :csad:

[Super_Ludacris]

Probably not

[BlackLantern]

People love scandal

[Immortalfire]

Falcons will pick third..http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/falcons/stories/2008/02/22/falconsflip_0223.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab

[Showtime]

What's the Hype record for most mods as regular participants in a thread? :dry:

Congrats Show. :up:



The "reds" are suckers for sports. Thanks J.

[Dark Donnie]

...

Report: Giants preparing to trade for CB Hall

The Giants are reportedly prepared to send the No. 31 overall pick in the draft to the Falcons in exchange for CB DeAngelo Hall.

The Giants were reportedly hoping to woo Nnamdi Asomugha or Marcus Trufant, but both were franchised. GM Jerry Reese views Asante Samuel as a product of the Patriots' system. The rebuilding Falcons could probably ask the Giants to add a later-round pick to the deal and get it. Despite the Super Bowl win, Reese smartly recognizes the Giants' CB situation as a need area. Feb. 22 - 12:36 am et
Source: Newark Star-Ledger

Jets give Vilma permission to seek out trade

The Jets have given ILB Jonathan Vilma permission to shop himself for a potential trade.

Vilma is coming off knee surgery, but was a Pro Bowl alternate his second season, and just doesn't fit well into Eric Mangini's 3-4 defense. He'll seek a long-term deal with a team that would then have to work out a trade with the Jets. Reuniting with former Jets defensive coordinator Donnie Henderson in Jacksonville is a possibility. There has also been talk in St. Louis of the Rams sending the No. 2 overall pick to the Jets for the No. 6 pick and Vilma, though that seems unlikely. Feb. 22 - 9:09 am et
Source: New York Daily News

[Fran]

The New England Patriots have decided not to franchise WR Donte Stallworth. This makes the WR a free agent.

[BlackLantern]

if the Giants can get DeAngelo Hall and only have to give up a first round pick that is basically meaningless I am all for it

[Dark Donnie]

DeAngelo Hall is always in altercations on the field, seems like a punk, plus he gets torched by opposing teams #1's most of the time. I don't think he's worth a 1 or a 2(Giants pick is basically a 2)

DeSean Jackson only 5'9/169 at weigh-in

California WR DeSean Jackson measured in at 5'9/169 at the NFL Combine weigh-in.

This is significant. Jackson was listed at 6'0/172 during his Cal days. He still has superior explosiveness to hang his hat on, but teams may not view such a diminutive player as a legitimate outside receiver right away. Expect Jackson to fall at least to the bottom of the first round. Feb. 22 - 12:13 pm et
Source: draftheadquarters.com

Report: Saints favorites to sign Zach Thomas

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports the Saints have emerged as the favorites to sign free agent LB Zach Thomas.

It's the best fit for Thomas in terms of playing time and most likely from a financial standpoint. He'll meet with the Cowboys Friday at the Combine. Feb. 22 - 11:35 am et

[BlackLantern]

the Giants have the 31st pick....its not like its something in the first 10 picks...and Hall would have a competent defensive unit around him which would keep him in check

[Venom'sDad]

According to Mel Kiper's Mock Draft, the StormTroopers is expected to draft Darren McFadden with the 4th pick.




:)

[Alex The Great]

Reports here are that they are finalizing a deal.
showey a mod? congratz :up:


don't beleive all that **** they say about me :cmad: :csad:

[Alex The Great]

i hope the browns make the playoffs this year.

[BlackLantern]

Id like to see the Browns do well...I like Derek Anderson

[Showtime]

The New England Patriots have decided not to franchise WR Donte Stallworth. This makes the WR a free agent.

Stallworth? They weren't ever going to franchise him as far as I know. Moss, they were going too.

[Showtime]

showey a mod? congratz :up:


don't beleive all that **** they say about me :cmad: :csad:

Now I know everything you've done. Thanks though!

[Alex The Great]

Now I know everything you've done. Thanks though!
:cmad: :csad:

[Dark Donnie]

when did you become a mod?

[BlackLantern]

when did you become a mod?

Don't ask questions....they ban you for that....j/j Showtime:oldrazz:

[Showtime]

when did you become a mod?

Yesterday morning.

Don't ask questions....they ban you for that....j/j Showtime:oldrazz:

:Banned: :oldrazz:

[BlackLantern]

:Banned: :oldrazz:

Tyranny....abuse...I am going to blog about this, then post a youtube video and tell all my MySpace friends about the tyrannical-ness of this board.....:::shakes fist in air:::::

[Dark Donnie]

Yesterday morning.



:Banned: :oldrazz:

Are you in charge of a particular section?

[Showtime]

Tyranny....abuse...I am going to blog about this, then post a youtube video and tell all my MySpace friends about the tyrannical-ness of this board.....:::shakes fist in air:::::

I wouldn't be suprised if that really happened.

Are you in charge of a particular section?

Just the NFL Thread.

Superman and Justice League.

[Dark Donnie]

...

Cowboys land LB Thomas with one-year deal

Cowboys agreed with LB Zach Thomas on a one-year, $3 million contract. Profootballtalk.com reports he'll earn a $1 million signing bonus with a $1 million base salary. Another $1 million is available in incentives.

Thomas is not guaranteed to start in front of Bradie James or Akin Ayodele, but he'll be part of a solid interior rotation for the Cowboys deep linebacker group. Coach Wade Phillips indicated he'd use Thomas like Donnie Edwards, meaning if Thomas starts, Ayodele will be sent to the bench. Thomas' tackle numbers will go down, but Dallas probably offered him the best combination of money and possible wins. Feb. 23 - 12:15 pm et
Source: Fox Sports.

Grossman staying with Bears on one-year pact

Bears agreed to terms with Rex Grossman on a one-year, $3 million contract. NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports the deal includes $1.5 million guaranteed.

He's very unlikely to be cut even if training camp goes poorly. The short deal makes sense for both sides, but the Bears should still add talent to the position. Brian Griese is likely to get cut. After watching Rex make the same old mistakes late last year, we're not optimistic he'll suddenly develop. Feb. 23 - 12:26 pm et

Asante Samuel wants 10 years, $100 million?

Free agent Asante Samuel is rumored to be in search of a ten-year, $100 million contract, including $30 million up front.

Apparently he doesn't just want more than Nate Clements (seven years, $64 million), he wants much more. The way Samuel and his agent are speaking, it sounds like he doesn't have a preference of where to sign. Some GMs are pegging him as a system DB, but Samuel will likely go to the highest bidder. Feb. 23 - 3:50 pm et
Source: Boston Herald

[BlackLantern]

I wouldn't be suprised if that really happened.

LOL...I'd never do that....MySpace is the devil

[LegoMyEggo]

Grossman....lives.. AGAIN! I'm kinda glad though, he was looking better after Griese got hurt/benched and he went back in. A lot of people seem to forget that the year the Bears went to the Super Bowl, it was Grossman's first real season in the NFL. He has one season of real experience and people wanted to give up already. It was ridiculous. The Chicago media blew that up more than anything I've seen in recent history.

[BlackLantern]

I like Rex Grossman....I hope he can keep his job this season....but I have this itching feeling that if it doesnt work out Chicago may make a play for McNabb when his contract is up

[Showtime]

LOL...I'd never do that....MySpace is the devil

Do it!

[BlackLantern]

Do it!

I don't even have a MySpace, so I would have to sign up for one and then commence to ranting and raving about the tyranny on the Hype and honestly Showtime...you just are not worth it....

[Fran]

I had a MySpace. Once.

But I deleted it! :up:

[Bond]

Grrr, Dallas is wasting their money. They should save it to make sure they can get Marion Barber to stay and possibly even Flozell.

[Fran]

Hahahaha, your avatar is looking at your post like http://www.spartantailgate.com/forums/images/smilies/uhoh.gif It's incredible :up:

[Bond]

Hahahaha, your avatar is looking at your post like http://www.spartantailgate.com/forums/images/smilies/uhoh.gif It's incredible :up:
Oh wow, I didn't even notice that! Haha. :up:

[E. Nygma]

As much as Grossman is bashed, who else is out there for the Bears to get in free agency? I mean sure, they could trade for guys like McNabb or Derek Anderson, but they'd have to give something up, and those guys have question marks just as Rex does.

Rex by no means is Dan Marino, he's not a great QB, he wont put up great numbers, but one thing he can do is manage a game. When that team is healthy he can manage a game and play well enough for them to win. He knows the offense, the players and coaches are familiar with his style of play. I think signing him is fine until they draft and groom a replacement, and then Rex would be a pretty solid backup.

[Jerry!]

It's getting to the point where I believe the only way Chicago is going to get a GOOD QB, because for whatever reason they don't have the patience to groom a QB (because they will run him out of town every chance they get, justified or not) the only way is to sign some big name free agent QB while he is still actually good, not washed up. It's gonna be the same bull**** all over again with Grossman. As is the o-line ain't worth ****, which means he has little chance. He has no running game to fall back on, it's a bad situation for any QB, let alone a guy who has basically one full year of NFL experience under his belt.

But not a lot of people seem to understand that. They wanted him gone, they wanted the wonderful BRIAN GRIESE! And then when he got beat up behind the line and wasn't doing any better than Rex was, it was Rex's turn again, and then he got hurt because of the ****ty o-line again and was done for the season, so it was Orton's turn to take a beating and so on and so forth. The problem wasn't just the QB position. And the Chicago media never, never once crucified Griese for his poor performances like they did Grossman. It was every day Grossman's face was on the front page (back page really) with a typical smarmy Jay Mariotti column to follow. I just got so sick of it.

[E. Nygma]

It's getting to the point where I believe the only way Chicago is going to get a GOOD QB, because for whatever reason they don't have the patience to groom a QB (because they will run him out of town every chance they get, justified or not) the only way is to sign some big name free agent QB while he is still actually good, not washed up. It's gonna be the same bull**** all over again with Grossman. As is the o-line ain't worth ****, which means he has little chance. He has no running game to fall back on, it's a bad situation for any QB, let alone a guy who has basically one full year of NFL experience under his belt.

But not a lot of people seem to understand that. They wanted him gone, they wanted the wonderful BRIAN GRIESE! And then when he got beat up behind the line and wasn't doing any better than Rex was, it was Rex's turn again, and then he got hurt because of the ****ty o-line again and was done for the season, so it was Orton's turn to take a beating and so on and so forth. The problem wasn't just the QB position. And the Chicago media never, never once crucified Griese for his poor performances like they did Grossman. It was every day Grossman's face was on the front page (back page really) with a typical smarmy Jay Mariotti column to follow. I just got so sick of it.

Are you questioning the Bears decision to bring in KORDELL STEWART! :woot:

[Jerry!]

Yeah I didn't like that. All I kept hearing was "Oh he's a great athelete, he's a great athelete." OK, I believe you, how is he as a QB?
"......."

We're ****ed.

[Showtime]

I don't even have a MySpace, so I would have to sign up for one and then commence to ranting and raving about the tyranny on the Hype and honestly Showtime...you just are not worth it....

Now I am going to have to rant and rave about you on my Myspace. That is so worth it.

[jaguarr]

It's getting to the point where I believe the only way Chicago is going to get a GOOD QB, because for whatever reason they don't have the patience to groom a QB (because they will run him out of town every chance they get, justified or not) the only way is to sign some big name free agent QB while he is still actually good, not washed up. It's gonna be the same bull**** all over again with Grossman. As is the o-line ain't worth ****, which means he has little chance. He has no running game to fall back on, it's a bad situation for any QB, let alone a guy who has basically one full year of NFL experience under his belt.

But not a lot of people seem to understand that. They wanted him gone, they wanted the wonderful BRIAN GRIESE! And then when he got beat up behind the line and wasn't doing any better than Rex was, it was Rex's turn again, and then he got hurt because of the ****ty o-line again and was done for the season, so it was Orton's turn to take a beating and so on and so forth. The problem wasn't just the QB position. And the Chicago media never, never once crucified Griese for his poor performances like they did Grossman. It was every day Grossman's face was on the front page (back page really) with a typical smarmy Jay Mariotti column to follow. I just got so sick of it.

Yeah, I would tend to agree with you. Rex hasn't had much of a chance to do anything with the spot. Hard to throw the ball to your receivers when the other team's D-Line is lying on top of you. 'Da Bears should be focusing on beefing up their O-Line instead of jacking around with their QB's. Grossman really isn't a bad QB at all when he's got time to actually do something other than check out the turf from ground level.

jag

[BlackLantern]

Now I am going to have to rant and rave about you on my Myspace. That is so worth it.

why thank you......

[jaguarr]

Just read the news blip Donnie posted about Asante Samuel. Ten years and $10M? :lmao:

jag

[Showtime]

Asante Samuel thinks very highly of himself.

[BlackLantern]

Just read the news blip Donnie posted about Asante Samuel. Ten years and $10M? :lmao:

jag

Asante should take that comedy routine on tour....

[jaguarr]

I'd like to see the Jets pick Samuel up. They've got the cap room. It would serve him right. :D

jag

[E. Nygma]

It's the market, Samuel may want quite a lot but he's going to get it. He's the top DB out there......

[Showtime]

I doubt he is going to get 100 Million including a 30 Million signing bonus.

[E. Nygma]

I doubt he is going to get 100 Million including a 30 Million signing bonus.

Well Nate Clements got 8 years 8 million with 22 guaranteed

That was last year, so you've got to figure Samuel could get more.

I dont know if he WILL, but there are enough teams out there with enough cap room to give him at least more than Clements got.

[Alex The Great]

...
thomas goes to the cowgrirls, bears get crappy rexy. and samuel is being a greedy bastard. cool :o :whatever:

[steintym]

Well Nate Clements got 8 years 8 million with 22 guaranteed

That was last year, so you've got to figure Samuel could get more.

I dont know if he WILL, but there are enough teams out there with enough cap room to give him at least more than Clements got.

it just takes one dumb/desperate team to set a new market. I also don't know if he will get it, but the possibility is definitely there.

[Fran]

Michigan State WR Devin Thomas' stock just went through the ceiling. 4.34 and 4.32 running times for the 40, and a 28" vertical (not that good, but the 40 times are incredible).

Mario Manningham from Michigan had a bad day... got like a 4.59 40, the scouts aren't too impressed. They're saying he might have dropped to a second-early third-round pick.

[Fran]

Mike Hart ran a 4.67 40... yikes. :dry:

Also, Kellen Davis, MSU's tight end, outran Manningham in the 40! :funny:

[Showtime]

Well Nate Clements got 8 years 8 million with 22 guaranteed

That was last year, so you've got to figure Samuel could get more.

I dont know if he WILL, but there are enough teams out there with enough cap room to give him at least more than Clements got.

He's not worth it.

[steintym]

Mike Hart ran a 4.67 40... yikes. :dry:

Also, Kellen Davis, MSU's tight end, outran Manningham in the 40! :funny:

Not good for Mr. Hart, not good at all. He needed a strong showing.

[BlackLantern]

I was never a fan of Mike Hart..

[Fran]

I hate him more than any other U-M player. Chad Henne gets a bad rep.

[Dark Donnie]

Darren McFadden ran a 4.33

Arkansas' McFadden runs official 4.33 forty

Arkansas RB Darren McFadden ran an official 4.33 forty at the NFL Combine Sunday. His first run, though unofficial, was timed at 4.27.

Hello. McFadden was considering not running in the weeks leading up to the Combine, but it's good he did. For perspective, Adrian Peterson ran 4.40 and 4.37 times last year. At 4.27, Appalachian State WR Dexter Jackson posted the fastest time among wideouts. East Carolina scatback/returner Chris Johnson (4.24) had the fastest official time among running backs. Feb. 24 - 2:39 pm et

Report: Serious concerns about DT Dorsey

NflDraftScout.com's Howard Balzer reports there are "serious concerns" over the long-term effects of a stress fracture Glenn Dorsey suffered in 2006.

The stress fracture was in his right tibia. After taking a physical Saturday, Dorsey was sent to the hospital for additional tests. Dorsey is not working out at the Combine due to a death in the family, but the tibia issue is reportedly now a "red flag" for some NFL teams. Michigan DT Alan Branch dropped to the second round of last year's draft due to similar concerns. Feb. 24 - 2:26 pm et
Source: mysportspage.com

[Dark Donnie]

Also:
Steve Slaton-RB- Player Feb. 24 - 4:30 pm et


West Virginia RB Steve Slaton ran an unofficial 4.44 forty at the Combine.

This eases some concern that Slaton lost a step later in his college career, although we wouldn't be surprised if he was running in the 4.3s as a freshman. Slaton (5'9/197) could be tried as a slot receiver by NFL teams.


Jamaal Charles-RB- Player Feb. 24 - 4:22 pm et


Texas RB Jamaal Charles officially ran a 4.36 forty at the NFL Combine.

Charles had fumbling problems in his college career, but there was never any doubt about his speed. He'll likely be a late second or third-round pick.


Felix Jones-RB- Player Feb. 24 - 4:19 pm et


Arkansas RB/KR Felix Jones ran an official 4.47 forty at the Combine.

It's not a blazing time like his former teammate, but plenty fast. Jones will likely be drafted late in the first round or early in the second as a complementary back and return ace. He has long-term starting upside.

Rashard Mendenhall-RB- Player Feb. 24 - 3:06 pm et


Illinois RB Rashard Mendenhall timed 4.37 and 4.43 in the NFL Combine's forty-yard dash.

Outstanding times for Mendenhall, who is apparently ranked as the top running back on some teams' draft boards. Mendenhall is a tackle breaker, so showing he has home run speed as well certainly can't hurt.


Vernon Gholston-DL- Player Feb. 24 - 2:44 pm et


Ohio State DE/OLB Vernon Gholston bench pressed 225 37 times at the Combine.

Equaling Jake Long's mark, which was the most among offensive linemen. Long is 6'7/313, while Gholston is 6'3/266. Gholston has yet to run his 40.
Source: draftheadquarters.com


Jonathan Stewart-RB- Player Feb. 24 - 2:51 pm et


Oregon RB Jonathan Stewart ran unofficial 4.44 and 4.49 forty times at the NFL Combine.

For a 235-pound pure power back, this is highly impressive. Stewart projects as a surefire first-round pick. Arizona seems like a fine fit at No. 16.
Related: Cardinals

[Dark Donnie]

More...

Michael Huff-DB- Raiders Feb. 24 - 1:23 pm et


Two league sources tell the Oakland Tribune's Jerry McDonald that it's "no secret" Raiders S Michael Huff is on the trade block.

Huff is going to be hard to trade with that $43 million rookie deal he signed in 2006. It's very surprising that the Raiders would be looking to unload Huff with no viable alternative behind him. Oakland needs a hitter at strong safety so Huff can move to center field and capitalize on his strengths.
Source: Oakland Tribune

Gibril Wilson-DB- Giants Feb. 24 - 1:11 pm et


The Jaguars are expected pursue free agent S Gibril Wilson when the market opens on February 29.

Eugene Wilson and Madieu Williams will be fallback options. Jacksonville has around $40 million in available cap space and will be a major player in free agency. The Jags are also in search of an every-down defensive end, a "No. 1 receiver," and a backup QB like Todd Collins or Josh McCown.
Source: Florida Times Union
Related: Eugene Wilson, Todd Collins, Josh McCown, Jaguars

Mario Manningham-WR- Player Feb. 24 - 12:40 pm et


Michigan WR Mario Manningham ran forty times of 4.59 and 4.62 at the NFL Combine on Sunday.

At 6'0/182, much faster timing was expected. Manningham was a deep threat in college, but it appears he may struggle to separate from faster DBs at the next level. This won't ruin his great college career, but could hurt his chances for the firstround.

DeSean Jackson-WR- Player Feb. 24 - 11:22 am et


Cal's DeSean Jackson ran a 4.35 forty at the NFL Scouting Combine.

The expectations were so high, and Jackson came through. He was the fastest receiver on the board. Jackson's size is going to hurt him on draft day, but teams won't be worried about his explosivness. He should go in the first round, but towards the end.

[E. Nygma]

as if the combine even matters...

[BlackLantern]

pretty much....

[Excel]

Did I not say Chris Johnson was someone to watch out for?

Reggie Bush ran a 4.33

WOW @ Manningham

[jaguarr]

WTF are the Raiders doing putting Huff up on the block? That makes little to no sense. Come on, Al! You're KILLING the team!

And, as usual, the Jags are looking like they are making smart acquisitions to address their holes. I'm expecting some really good things from them next season. Del Rio is a badass!

jag

[BlackLantern]

since when did people get SO ******* wet for the combine....??

[Fran]

It's neat to watch the MSU guys work out for the pros. Shut up :cmad:

[Dark Donnie]

Darren McFadden killed it

[BlackLantern]

It's neat to watch the MSU guys work out for the pros. Shut up :cmad:

I'm sorry Fran, I don't respond to people who don't have avatars....:oldrazz:

[Fran]

I am your superior.

[BlackLantern]

^^^^ No, you just have more posts...

[Fran]

And I joined before you :o

[Cmill216]

Good lord, Darren McFadden. Trying out for the Flash film? :eek:

[Excel]

Chris Johnson ran a 4.24, a new combine record.

[Dark Donnie]

Good lord, Darren McFadden. Trying out for the Flash film? :eek:

I know, the guy is going to be a good one

[jaguarr]

Good lord, Darren McFadden. Trying out for the Flash film? :eek:

LOL! :D

jag

[Cmill216]

He's a bigger, faster Adrian Peterson without the health concerns.

*dies*

[Excel]

Chris Johnson ran a 4.24!

How yall not freakin?

[Cmill216]

Chris Johnson ran a 4.24!

How yall not freakin?

Roids.

[Jerry!]

Bust.

[Dark Donnie]

Chris Johnson ran a 4.24!

How yall not freakin?

He's like the 7th best back in the draft, speed isn't everything. There are alot of blazing fast RB's in the NFL who are third stringers and special teamers.

[Jerry!]

*cough* Reggie Bush *cough* He should be a receiver though.

[Dark Donnie]

*cough* Reggie Bush *cough* He should be a receiver though.

Great Hands, he should definately lineup at WR

[Excel]

Devin Hester?? But i still the most mipressive is nou doubt jonathan stewart.

sub 4.5 while being at 235 lbs of muscle?

Good luck tackling him....

[Jerry!]

You know what's funny, Devin Hester has more touchdowns than Reggie Bush and only 2 of them are from playing on offense.

[Dark Donnie]

Devin Hester?? But i still the most mipressive is nou doubt jonathan stewart.

sub 4.5 while being at 235 lbs of muscle?

Good luck tackling him....

Mendenhaal is moving ahead of him I think

[Excel]

Wouldnt surprise me, but it depends. houston is taking one and arizonas taking the other; it seems likely.

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chris johnson in action, that is moss circia 1998 esque. pure natural speed, breathetaking. Catches at his own 5 on 9 seconds, is in the endzone by 20.

95 yards in 11 seconds at angle? He could run a 100 in under 10, excel thinks.

[Dark Donnie]

Wouldnt surprise me, but it depends. houston is taking one and arizonas taking the other; it seems likely.

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chris johnson in action, that is moss circia 1998 esque. pure natural speed, breathetaking.

Fixed

[Badger]

Wouldnt surprise me, but it depends. houston is taking one and arizonas taking the other; it seems likely.

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chris johnson in action, that is moss circia 1998 esque. pure natural speed, breathetaking. Catches at his own 5 on 9 seconds, is in the endzone by 20.

95 yards in 11 seconds at angle? He could run a 100 in under 10, excel thinks.

He ran 4.24 40, without pads, and you think he can do it under 10?

How are you not working as a Scout or something?

[Excel]

itd be close10 would be a stretch...but he plainly does on film in 11, and thats while walking into the endzone...its clear in that film anyways that hes still picking speed and doesnt really hit his stride until around the 50 where hes absolutly flying...so that might be just over 10 seconds per 10 yards in his 40, but in his 50 or 6o i think it might be under.

damn, if i could coach that kid. Imaging fake reverse to a reciever and a screen to him in the open field 10 yards out?

oh my, the possibilities...

[The Techno Bat]

I've been checking out some of that NFL scouting on the NFL network over the weekend and that is some pretty neat stuff they are doing. Interesting and cool to watch

[Dark Donnie]

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Gibril Wilson-DB-Giants Feb. 25 - 12:07 pm et

The Philadelphia Inquirer considers the Eagles more likely to pursue S Gibril Wilson than Asante Samuel in free agency.

Wilson would come cheaper than Samuel and fill a greater need, assuming the Birds keep Lito Sheppard. He also learned the Eagles' scheme from defensive coordinator Jim Johnson disciple Steve Spagnuolo last year.
Source: Philadelphia Inquirer
Related: Eagles

Jonathan Vilma-LB- Jets Feb. 25 - 8:52 am et


The Jets' permission to allow Jonathan Vilma to seek a trade reportedly applies to 30 teams, all but the Patriots.

The Patriots probably wouldn't want Vilma anyway, but there's apparently still bad blood between the clubs. The Lions are known to have interest in Vilma.
Source: Boston Globe
Related: Lions, Patriots


Darren McFadden-RB- Player Feb. 25 - 8:42 am et


Chiefs GM Carl Peterson says that after Darren McFadden ran the forty in an official 4.33 seconds, he'd "have to consider" taking him No. 5 overall.

"He’s a game-changing talent," said King Carl. "He helped himself a lot. If he’s at No. 5 overall, I’m going to have to consider him long and hard. And I (already) have a great running back." Peterson is almost certainly just puffing up McFadden because he knows he won't take him.
Source: Yahoo Sports
Related: Chiefs, Rams

[Dark Donnie]

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Lito Sheppard-DB- Eagles Feb. 25 - 9:00 am et


One of the rumors "making the rounds" at the Combine is that the Patriots are interested in Lito Sheppard, according to Profootballtalk.com.

The Eagles have vehemently denied reports Sheppard is on the block, but might trade him for the right price. There is speculation that Sheppard is unhappy with his contract, while the Birds are eyeing Asante Samuel.
Source: Profootballtalk.com
Related: Patriots, Eagles



Vernon Gholston-DL- Player Feb. 25 - 11:06 am et


Ohio State DE Vernon Gholston ran an unofficial 4.64 forty at the NFL Combine Monday.

This is Gaines Adams territory - a great time for a defensive lineman. The most important test for Gholston was whether he showed enough hip fluidity to kick to full-time outside linebacker in the pass coverage drills. The Patriots and Jets will look at him closely.

Michael Strahan-DL- Giants Feb. 25 - 9:31 am et


NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports those close to Michael Strahan expect him to play football again in 2008.

The Giants have expressed a willingness to upgrade Strahan's contract this offseason, something they balked at last year. He is due $4 million in 2008. Strahan is expected to make his plans known by March at the latest.

[Dark Donnie]

McFadden faces two paternity suits

Darren McFadden created a major buzz at the NFL scouting combine when he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.27 seconds on Sunday. That's also where news got out that McFadden is not only battling a paternity suit, but that he told a team during an interview Saturday night that he has two children on the way. In addition to meeting with the Falcons, he met with the Raiders, who pick fourth in the draft, and several other teams.
=Travis Henry?

[Mister J]

The Jets' permission to allow Jonathan Vilma to seek a trade reportedly applies to 30 teams, all but the Patriots.

:lmao:
That's also where news got out that McFadden is not only battling a paternity suit, but that he told a team during an interview Saturday night that he has two children on the way.
Yep. Bringing that wood, on and off the football field. :lmao:

[Mee]

Just found out Zack Thomas went to the Cowboys. Since the Phins never made it onto TV last year, I'm not sure how I feel about this. Is he still good?

I'm gonna assume/hope yes. :(

[Immortalfire]

Noooo don't tell me Run DMC is a student of the Travis Henry school of sexy time :wow:

[Cmill216]

Asante Samuel interested in becoming a Buc? (http://www.tboblogs.com/index.php/sports/story/asante-wants-to-join-tampa/)

[StorminNorman]

I believe Excel criticized me for saying Darren McFadden will be better than Adrien Peterson?

I also believe Excel went on record saying Chris Henry was a better pro prospect than Darren McFadden.

I said it before, and I will say it again, Darren McFadden is the best talent to be in this draft in many a year. He is a potential top 5 RB his first year in the game.

[Dark Donnie]

Asante Samuel interested in becoming a Buc? (http://www.tboblogs.com/index.php/sports/story/asante-wants-to-join-tampa/)

I think he'll play for any team that gives him the money

[StorminNorman]

Who seems to be the players in the Asante Samuel sweepstakes?

[Dark Donnie]

Who seems to be the players in the Asante Samuel sweepstakes?

Eagles, Bucs, maybe a few others

Asante Samuel-DB-Patriots Feb. 25 - 3:52 pm et

SI.com's Peter King writes the Jets will not go after Asante Samuel.

If this is proven to be true, it's telling that his old coach Eric Mangini doesn't think Samuel is worth the huge bucks. We'd put Samuel towards the bottom of the top ten cornerbacks in football, but he's about to be the highest paid. King thinks the Eagles will go after him.
Source: SI.com
Related: Jets, Eagles

Asante Samuel-DB-Patriots Feb. 25 - 2:38 pm et

The Bucs are on the short list of teams free agent CB Asante Samuel wants to play for, according to his agent.

The agent plans to begin talks shortly after Samuel formally qualifies for free agency. Samuel is thought to be in search of a ten-year, $100 million deal.
Source: Tampa Tribune
Related: Buccaneers

[Dark Donnie]

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Javon Walker-WR-Broncos Feb. 25 - 3:22 pm et

A league source tells Profootballtalk.com that owner Jerry Jones is working on a deal to bring Javon Walker to Dallas.

However, the source says it's possible Walker's knee won't allow him to pass a physical. There seems to be a lot of concern about Walker's long-term health within the league. He shouldn't cost more than a fifth-round pick.
Source: Profootballtalk.com
Related: Cowboys, Buccaneers

Alan Faneca-G-Steelers Feb. 25 - 3:53 pm et

The Jets will reportedly go after Alan Faneca in free agency.

They could certainly use some bulk upfront to help their running game. The Cardinals are also expected to pursue Faneca, 31.
Source: SI.com
Related: Jets

[NewYorkSpider]

Not sure if this has been discussed.

NFL looking into changing the seeding process.


The NFL's Competition Committee continues to explore the possibility of reseeding playoff teams, with the idea of putting more of an emphasis on overall record instead of winning the division according to the Boston Globe.
As it stands, division winners get the top four seeds; but this past season, two wild-card teams had better records than division winners. Part of the motivation for a potential change is to make late-season games more meaningful.
Opinion has been varied among league officials at the combine, with Colts coach Tony Dungy sounding happy with the status quo. "I've probably been old school and think the division champs should get some type of award," he said, "but I'm certainly open to listening and seeing if they could help out maybe those last three weeks in the regular season."
Source: Boston Globe

[Dark Donnie]

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DeShaun Foster-RB-Panthers Feb. 25 - 4:43 pm et

ESPN's John Clayton expects the 49ers to sign free agent DeShaun Foster "in the next couple of days."

San Francisco was quick to contact Foster after he was cut last Thursday. The Niners would reportedly use him as a complement to Frank Gore, but he'd be the biggest threat for carries Gore's faced since Kevan Barlow in '05.
Source: ESPN Insider
Related: 49ers


Troy Williamson-WR-Vikings Feb. 25 - 4:39 pm et

ESPN's John Clayton reports a trade involving Troy Williamson should be announced on the first day of free agency.

Clayton writes that "at least two or three teams" have stayed in contact with the Vikings about acquiring Williamson. Jacksonville, Cleveland, and Miami are rumored to have interest. The Jags seem like a good bet to land the 24-year-old wideout with former Vikings coach Mike Tice an assistant there.
Source: ESPN Insider
Related: Browns, Jaguars, Dolphins

[StorminNorman]

I have to ask why any team would be in contact with the Vikings for Troy Williamson.

[E. Nygma]

I have to ask why any team would be in contact with the Vikings for Troy Williamson.

Potential? A cheaper form of a young receiver who when paired with a decent consistent QB may be an ok player? Easier than trading the farm for Larry Fitz or Roy Williams.

[Dark Donnie]

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Derek Anderson-QB-Browns Feb. 25 - 5:42 pm et

The Browns have reportedly leaked that Derek Anderson is in search of a six-year deal in order to make themselves look good.

As John Czarnecki of FOXSports' theory goes, the Browns want it to look like they won the negotiating battle when he winds up with a three-year contract. It would be impossible to verify something like this, but it's interesting.
Source: FOXSports.com


Asante Samuel-DB-Patriots Feb. 25 - 5:24 pm et

The Saints are "currently the leader" to sign free agent Asante Samuel, according to FOXSports.com's John Czarnecki.

Nice to see they've realized their Jason David mistake. Samuel's asking price reportedly went up recently because DeAngelo Hall is asking for $10 million a season. Czarnecki says the Giants would trade their first-rounder for Hall, but wouldn't go that high on a contract.
Source: FOXSports.com
Related: DeAngelo Hall, Falcons, Saints, Giants


Randy Moss-WR-Patriots Feb. 25 - 5:21 pm et

FoxSports.com's John Czarnecki writes that Randy Moss and the Patriots aren't really close on a new contract.

The Czar is known for some off the wall stuff, but this makes enough sense. The Patriots reportedly believe that Moss will give them a chance to match any offer. It's uncertain who might go after Moss, but Denver and Dallas have been mentioned.
Source: FoxSports.com
Related: Cowboys, Broncos

[NewYorkSpider]

Moss and Owens on the same team? That would either be a great combination or a disaster waiting to happen.

[Immortalfire]

Moss and Owens on the same team? That would either be a great combination or a disaster waiting to happen.

The latter.

[Dark Donnie]

Report: Lions, Broncos close on Rogers trade

The Rocky Mountain News reports that the Broncos and Lions are close to agreeing to a trade that would send Shaun Rogers to Denver. A deal couldn't be official until Friday.

The terms are unclear, but this is typical high-risk, high-reward Mike Shanahan move. We think it's worth it. Rogers' effort and conditioning are suspect, but he's a Pro Bowl quality defensive tackle in his prime. Denver is desperate for some pass-rushing help, and Rogers would help. Feb. 25 - 6:15 pm et
Source: Rocky Mountain News

[Excel]

I believe Excel criticized me for saying Darren McFadden will be better than Adrien Peterson?

I also believe Excel went on record saying Chris Henry was a better pro prospect than Darren McFadden.

I said it before, and I will say it again, Darren McFadden is the best talent to be in this draft in many a year. He is a potential top 5 RB his first year in the game.

Chris Henry? I said Chris JOHNSON was fast. I would rank run dmc 3rd in rbs of this year after 1. Stewart and 2. Medenhall n have said it for a while.

[Alex The Great]

dman it kraft! sign moss. but then again....now teams know how to cover him oretty much. mosrt of the season he was POW! in the playoffs he was *freefalling whistle noise*
i don't really know :csad:

[StorminNorman]

Chris Henry? I said Chris JOHNSON was fast. I would rank run dmc 3rd in rbs of this year after 1. Stewart and 2. Medenhall n have said it for a while.

No, you argued during the year that Chris Henry was the most NFL ready RB.

Also - Stewart and Medenhall aren't in McFadden's league.

[steintym]

Moss and Owens on the same team? That would either be a great combination or a disaster waiting to happen.

That has the potential to get ugly real fast.

[Dark Donnie]

I actually like Mendenhaal

[Dark Donnie]

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D.J. Hackett-WR-Seahawks Feb. 25 - 6:58 pm et

The player rep for D.J. Hackett confirmed Monday that his client will hit the free agent market on February 29.

"I won’t rule out Seattle as a destination but we are going to test the market and see what’s out there," Hackett's agent said. As a West Coast receiver, there will be heavy competition for Hackett with the Redskins, Raiders, Vikings, Bucs, Titans, Broncos, and possibly Eagles in need of WR help.
Source: Seahawks Insider Blog

[StorminNorman]

I stand corrected Excel

You said Michael Hart would be better than McFadden - not Chris Henry.

[Fran]

Mike Hart hurt himself big-time at the combine. No way is he better than McFadden.

[Dark Donnie]

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Report: Jaguars to acquire Troy Williamson

The Vikings have reportedly agreed in principle to trade Troy Williamson to the Jaguars in exchange for a second-day draft pick.

The first day of the draft was reduced to the first two rounds this year, so that's not really narrowing it down. Still, it'd be a shock if the Vikings get more than a conditional sixth-round pick for the drop prone wideout. Trades can't become official until free agency begins at 12:00 ET Thursday night. Feb. 25 - 9:02 pm et
Source: St. Paul Pioneer Press

[NewYorkSpider]

Hell no, McFaddens stock is plummeting. Both Medenhall and Stewart are expected to be taken over him, and they will both have better seasons than him assuming all 3 start.


:up:

[BlackLantern]

so who is going to get saddled with Madden this year? early rumors pointed to Eli..but we all know how marketable he is....I'm guessing since the pass rush was such a focal point in the NFL this year, maybe a defensive player will be on the cover...

[Fran]

I know! I know!

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