2008 NFL Thread

[Ace of Knaves]

New England would have been 11-1 if Brady wasn't injured.

:o

And he would have also been the leading contender for MVP, not Brees or Warner or Portis.

Hmmm, so not only do you have the ability to look into the future but you also have the ability to see into the "what if" dimension? :huh:

[Dr. Evil]

Brad Childress made the right move, replacing Tarvaris "Worst QB In the league" Jackson with Gus "He's still playing?" Frerotte. It saved his job, IMO, because if Jackson continued his suckiness, Childress would be in the same boat as Herm Edwards and Marvin Lewis: sinking

[Dr. Evil]

Hmmm, so not only do you have the ability to look into the future but you also have the ability to see into the "what if" dimension? :huh:

Just emphasizing what ESPN will probably say after they lost to Pittsburgh.

[Erzengel]

Well didn't the Vikings know that McNabb would be free in a year so instead of going for a QB in the offseason? :huh:

[Dr. Evil]

Well didn't the Vikings know that McNabb would be free in a year so instead of going for a QB in the offseason? :huh:

I saw this on CBS Sports before the Lions game:

Former Redskins and Texans GM Charley Casserley, who is an NFL insider now, says that he doesn't see McNabb leaving Philly, but if he does, then Minnesota and Chicago would be the two teams.

Going from Jackson to Frerotte was a desperation move by Brad Childress. He had to make the move in order to salvage the season. It has paid off so far.

[Dr. Evil]

Sigh.......Jacksonville at Houston is going to be awful.

Watch, Kornheiser is going to probably start talking about something not related to the game, much he did last week talking about a former Packers QB now playing for the Jets.

[Erzengel]

I saw this on CBS Sports before the Lions game:

Former Redskins and Texans GM Charley Casserley, who is an NFL insider now, says that he doesn't see McNabb leaving Philly, but if he does, then Minnesota and Chicago would be the two teams.

Going from Jackson to Frerotte was a desperation move by Brad Childress. He had to make the move in order to salvage the season. It has paid off so far.
I guess I was just assuming they "lucked out" with Frerotte especially if they were just going to chalk up this year to waiting.

[Immortalfire]

New England would have been 11-1 if Brady wasn't injured.

:o

And he would have also been the leading contender for MVP, not Brees or Warner or Portis.

Discussing "what if" is so much fun :o

[Marx]

Sigh.......Jacksonville at Houston is going to be awful.

Watch, Kornheiser is going to probably start talking about something not related to the game, much he did last week talking about a former Packers QB now playing for the Jets.

I have no doubt that there will be (yet again) another discussion about Brett Farve tonight. :whatever:http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon13.gif

[Immortalfire]

I have no doubt that there will be (yet again) another discussion about Brett Farve tonight. :whatever:http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon13.gif

I'll bring a gun to your home, so you and I can shoot one another to end the misery of hearing the F word.

[Cmill216]

Next year's London game:

New England vs. Tampa Bay

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3737047

[Dark Donnie]

Plaxico Burress-WR-Giants Dec. 1 - 12:43 pm et

Plaxico Burress reportedly sought treatment for his gunshot wound Friday night by checking himself into a hospital under the codename "Harris Smith."

Plax also allegedly told medical staff at New York-Cornell Hospital that he'd been shot at an Applebee's. Hospital workers immediately recognized him and did not report the injury to authorities, putting them at risk of legal action. Police found Burress' gun after searching his home with him not present.
Source: New York Post

[Immortalfire]

Next year's London game:

New England vs. Tampa Bay

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3737047

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[Go Web Go!]

Enough with the BLEEPING games overseas. Good God. That's what NFL Europe was for, and you know what? It FAILED!

[Ace of Knaves]

I'm not too fussed if they have games over here. I have now found a website that gives me all my live NFL needs! :cwink:

[The Game]

Next year's London game:

New England vs. Tampa Bay

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3737047

Im already there, yes

[Belvedere]

Im already there, yes

I cannot wait. :grin:

[Immortalfire]

I'm not too fussed if they have games over here. I have now found a website that gives me all my live NFL needs! :cwink:

Check the give a Hypester a gift thread :yay:

[Ace of Knaves]

Check the give a Hypester a gift thread :yay:

Wheres that man? In the community?

[Immortalfire]

Yup.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yup.

Ta very much!!

[Ace of Knaves]

'Fire...........YOU DA MAAAAAN!!!

I'll have to get you something, i'll have to think about it though! :D

[ih8nyy]

New England would have been 11-1 if Brady wasn't injured.

:o

And he would have also been the leading contender for MVP, not Brees or Warner or Portis.

11-1? Lets not get crazy. They would certainly be leading the division and be in a comfortable position for the playoffs, but the Pats defense has been suspect all year long. They look old, very, very old on the defensive side of the ball.

[Ace of Knaves]

11-1? Lets not get crazy. They would certainly be leading the division and be in a comfortable position for the playoffs, but the Pats defense has been suspect all year long. They look old, very, very old on the defensive side of the ball.

Yep, old and fragile.

[Raiden]

Sigh, just when you think Jets are legit after winning against Pats and Titans away, they laid an egg against Denver and their soft defense. At least it's not as bad as their loss against Oakland several weeks ago, but with AFC East so competitive, this loss might hurt them in the long run.

[Raiden]

Double post.

[Dark Donnie]

ESPN - Tampa Bay Buccaneers defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin will be joining his son Lane at Tennessee, sources told Chris Mortensen.

Lane Kiffin is expected to be introduced as the next head coach of Tennessee on Monday.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3735102

[Double Down]

^ That's a nice, little two-for-one for Tennessee.

[Immortalfire]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3735102

"Together, we can rule the SEC as father and son!" ~ Darth Kiffin

[Excel]

Its so obvious the NFL is sending over the bandwagon teams. I feel sorry for the bucs. Its a home game for them but will be ALL Pats. All youll hear is:

-3 time super bowl champs in the 2000's
-undefeated regular season 2 years agi
-mvp tom brady (poster of his face will have london chicks fainting)
-randy moss, one of the most electrifying and high profile players of his era (only rook ever to lead in jersey sales, #4 in sales over last 20 years)
-every body else (lomo & welker; thomas, seymour, vince, bware on d).

Plus, if all goes to plan, itll be a helluva game unlike the last 2 as the bucs are always great and a healthy new england may dominate like its 2007 next season.

This game will actually garner huge attention unlike the last 2.

[Erzengel]

-mvp tom brady (poster of his face will have london chicks fainting)
Um...all they will be saying, or all you will be saying? :huh:

[SouLeSS]

If the buc's lose our defense, we're ****ed. Hard.

****.

[Belvedere]

Its so obvious the NFL is sending over the bandwagon teams. I feel sorry for the bucs. Its a home game for them but will be ALL Pats. All youll hear is:

-3 time super bowl champs in the 2000's
-undefeated regular season 2 years agi
-mvp tom brady (poster of his face will have london chicks fainting)
-randy moss, one of the most electrifying and high profile players of his era (only rook ever to lead in jersey sales, #4 in sales over last 20 years)
-every body else (lomo & welker; thomas, seymour, vince, bware on d).

Plus, if all goes to plan, itll be a helluva game unlike the last 2 as the bucs are always great and a healthy new england may dominate like its 2007 next season.

This game will actually garner huge attention unlike the last 2.

Are you talking about attention in America? Because if you're talking about England, you're wrong.

[BlackLantern]

maybe if Bob Kraft or some of the other owners turned the greed switch off and told the NFL that their teams wouldn't participate in this, then the NFL would put an end to all this nonsense....

[Dark Donnie]

I think in the US.

[Dark Donnie]

maybe if Bob Kraft or some of the other owners turned the greed switch off and told the NFL that their teams wouldn't participate in this, then the NFL would put an end to all this nonsense....

I'm sure The NFL and the owners get a pretty penny for going over there.

[Dr. Evil]

Former Eagles TE Chad Lewis in China:

http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/for_the_record/posts/28001-former-tight-end-helping-nfl-take-flight-in-china?eref=sircrc&eref=fromSI

[Double Down]

Its so obvious the NFL is sending over the bandwagon teams. I feel sorry for the bucs. Its a home game for them but will be ALL Pats. All youll hear is:

-3 time super bowl champs in the 2000's
-undefeated regular season 2 years agi
-mvp tom brady (poster of his face will have london chicks fainting)
-randy moss, one of the most electrifying and high profile players of his era (only rook ever to lead in jersey sales, #4 in sales over last 20 years)
-every body else (lomo & welker; thomas, seymour, vince, bware on d).

Plus, if all goes to plan, itll be a helluva game unlike the last 2 as the bucs are always great and a healthy new england may dominate like its 2007 next season.

This game will actually garner huge attention unlike the last 2.

This post is kind of amazing.

[BlackLantern]

They certainly do....I may despise the Dallas Cowboys, but I do respect that Jerry Jones has publicly stated his team will play NO regular season games outside the United States..

[Excel]

Are you talking about attention in America?

:up:

[ScottyBBadd]

They certainly do....I may despise the Dallas Cowboys, but I do respect that Jerry Jones has publicly stated his team will play NO regular season games outside the United States..

He will not lose a home game due to an overseas game.

[That-Guy]

11-1? Lets not get crazy. They would certainly be leading the division and be in a comfortable position for the playoffs, but the Pats defense has been suspect all year long. They look old, very, very old on the defensive side of the ball.

Yeah, granted, Cassel is no Tom Brady, but the QB isn't the only player on the team. The defense was weak, and the offense let their QB get sacked multiple times and fumbled constantly. Pittsburgh on the other hand, looked stellar for the most part. :grin:

The Steelers may not have been perfect, but Harrison and the defense were f**king harsh, Big Ben had some great passes, Ward and Holmes had some awesome receptions, and Moore continued to make impressive runs. In fact, I have to say it: Willie Parker, though he did okay when they brought him back into the game, can retire for all I care. Pittsburgh has a much more versatile RB in Mewelde Moore.

[BlackLantern]

He will not lose a home game due to an overseas game.

that's not the point, it's the principle of the thing....

[Immortalfire]

They certainly do....I may despise the Dallas Cowboys, but I do respect that Jerry Jones has publicly stated his team will play NO regular season games outside the United States..

Seconded in that respect.

[Erzengel]

Yeah, granted, Cassel is no Tom Brady, but the QB isn't the only player on the team. The defense was weak, and the offense let their QB get sacked multiple times and fumbled constantly. Pittsburgh on the other hand, looked stellar for the most part. :grin:

The Steelers may not have been perfect, but Harrison and the defense were f**king harsh, Big Ben had some great passes, Ward and Holmes had some awesome receptions, and Moore continued to make impressive runs. In fact, I have to say it: Willie Parker, though he did okay when they brought him back into the game, can retire for all I care. Pittsburgh has a much more versatile RB in Mewelde Moore.
I'll be flipping from their game with the Cowboys next week and the Jets/49ers game. :up:

[ScottyBBadd]

that's not the point, it's the principle of the thing....

If his Boys were considered the visiting team he might.

[Showtime]

Its so obvious the NFL is sending over the bandwagon teams. I feel sorry for the bucs. Its a home game for them but will be ALL Pats. All youll hear is:

-3 time super bowl champs in the 2000's
-undefeated regular season 2 years agi
-mvp tom brady (poster of his face will have london chicks fainting)
-randy moss, one of the most electrifying and high profile players of his era (only rook ever to lead in jersey sales, #4 in sales over last 20 years)
-every body else (lomo & welker; thomas, seymour, vince, bware on d).

Plus, if all goes to plan, itll be a helluva game unlike the last 2 as the bucs are always great and a healthy new england may dominate like its 2007 next season.

This game will actually garner huge attention unlike the last 2.

I have no words. :csad:

[BlackLantern]

If his Boys were considered the visiting team he might.

He won't...he believes the NFL is Americas Game....

[Dark Donnie]

NYC mayor wants Giants' Burress behind bars

New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg came out Monday and said he wants Plaxico Burress prosecuted "to the fullest extent of the law" for accidentally shooting himself with an unlicensed handgun.

Apparently this guy isn't a football fan. Reportedly fuming in anger as he spoke, Bloomberg also said he wants the "book" thrown at NY-Cornell Hospital for failing to disclose Plax's situation to police. The mayor has been on a crusade to crack down on gun possession and apparently isn't willing to address this on a case-by-case basis. Plax looks to be in big time trouble. Dec. 1 - 4:25 pm et
Source: New York Daily News

[RAMORE]

A proposed rival league to the NFL, known as the UFL (United Football League) has launched it's website:

http://ufl-football.com/home

Cool I've always said there should be a team in Orlando now there will be. Plus Vick might have to play in that league for a year while he's suspended.

[That-Guy]

I'll be flipping from their game with the Cowboys next week and the Jets/49ers game. :up:

Yeah, next week should be a good game. The Cowboys have been playing really solid since Romo has been back, but hopefully Big Ben and the Men of Steel can take them down. Romo likes the throw, so that makes him a prime target for Harrison and Farrior, and even Casey Hampton if the refs piss him off, lol.

[RAMORE]

Next year's London game:

New England vs. Tampa Bay

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3737047

Damn NFL screwed us out of a home game:cmad: But they couldn't take it away from the Patriots though not the golden boys.

[Double Down]

I love how their web site stole famous pics of NFL players in action, then changed them a little.

[RAMORE]

All right i'm officially starting my "THE BUCS WILL BE GOING TO THE SUPERBOWL!!!!!!" This year campaign. What makes it all the sweeter is the Superbowl is in Tampa this year:up: ....what it could happen. We are playing really good right now, we're tied with with the panthers in the south as far as record but we beat them and atlanta. Now if we could just find a way to stop the Giants then we WILL be playing in the superbowl.

Am I talking to my Damn self on here?

[FaT_tONle]

Right now Atlanta and Dallas have the same record of 8-4, and based on the CBS NFL Playoff Bracket, so if they are tied now at 8-4 and their opponents are different, it's safe to say that in the event of a tie, Atlanta will make it over Dallas.

The Cowboys would have to win all their games and hope the Panthers lose 2 or Atlanta loses 1.

Atlanta still has to beat TB which is tough... also you forget that TB/Carolina are TIED right now... someone will lose next week. Cowboys are most likely in with 3 wins. The tie breakers are irrelevant right now.

[That-Guy]

So which NFL coaches do you think will be getting the axe at the end of this season? Obvious choices would be Romeo Crennel (Cleveland), Marvin Lewis (Cincy) and Rod Marinelli (Detroit). These three guys seem almost like a guarantee... who else?

[RAMORE]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3735102

It's not confirmed that hes going anywhere. He won't leave (if at all) till after this season and I think he'll see that he is better off in Tampa and His son is better off by himself without people thinking it's his dad getting it done not him.

Plus if he goes we'll bring back one of his assistants (maybe marinelli if the lions are stupid enough to dump him) and there won't be that much drop off cause Kiffen sowed defense in the dirt and that man should be in Canton when it's said and done whether he ever takes a head coaching gig or not.

[Go Web Go!]

So which NFL coaches do you think will be getting the axe at the end of this season? Obvious choices would be Romeo Crennel (Cleveland), Marvin Lewis (Cincy) and Rod Marinelli (Detroit). These three guys seem almost like a guarantee... who else?

You can probably throw Herm Edwards & Norv Turner in the mix.

[Double Down]

It's not confirmed that hes going anywhere. He won't leave (if at all) till after this season and I think he'll see that he is better off in Tampa and His son is better off by himself without people thinking it's his dad getting it done not him.

Plus if he goes we'll bring back one of his assistants (maybe marinelli if the lions are stupid enough to dump him) and there won't be that much drop off cause Kiffen sowed defense in the dirt and that man should be in Canton when it's said and done whether he ever takes a head coaching gig or not.

I don't see how the Lions would be "stupid" if they got rid of Marinelli. They are 0-12. There were people saying Cam Cameron deserved more time in Miami after last year. Does anyone think the Dolphins would be 7-5 this year under Cameron?

[Double Down]

So which NFL coaches do you think will be getting the axe at the end of this season? Obvious choices would be Romeo Crennel (Cleveland), Marvin Lewis (Cincy) and Rod Marinelli (Detroit). These three guys seem almost like a guarantee... who else?

Jauron needs to win last four games to keep Buffalo job


If somehow the Buffalo Bills (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/buf/) were to sweep their finishing gauntlet of games — Miami, the New York Jets (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/nyj/), Denver and New England — to finish 10-6, Dick Jauron, whose career NFL record is 56-73, will have earned the right to keep coaching the Bills. But anything less and this front office needs the courage to make a change. It can make that alleged contract extension go away, no questions asked.
Jauron did address his job security. "I always feel like I'm playing for my job," he said. "It's the nature of our business. You can say that about any game and every game."
It was a clichéd answer, but at least he acknowledged that winning is the measuring stick in pro sports. Jauron is a fine human being but the fans booing their lungs out Sunday don't really care about that.
And if the 49ers don't want Singletary, maybe the Bills do. They've tried Docile Dick. Now how about Iron Mike II?

Source: Democrat and Chronicle (http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20081201/SPORTS0103/812010328)

[Raiden]

You can probably throw Herm Edwards & Norv Turner in the mix.

Both should be fired imo.

[Double Down]

If they gave a trophy for worst coaching job of the year, I would give it to Norv Turner.

[Immortalfire]

If they gave a trophy for worst coaching job of the year, I would give it to Norv Turner.

Wasn't he supposed to be like, a super coaching genius?

[Double Down]

Wasn't he supposed to be like, a super coaching genius?

I thought that firing Schottenheimer was ridiculously stupid and petty at the time. I have not changed my mind.

[Franklin Richards]

Wasn't he supposed to be like, a super offensive coordinator genius?

fixed.



:thing: :doom: :thing:

[Dr. Evil]

Does Al Davis still have to pay Lane Kiffin the rest of his contract?

[FaT_tONle]

Jauron needs to win last four games to keep Buffalo job


If somehow the Buffalo Bills (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/buf/) were to sweep their finishing gauntlet of games — Miami, the New York Jets (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/nyj/), Denver and New England — to finish 10-6, Dick Jauron, whose career NFL record is 56-73, will have earned the right to keep coaching the Bills. But anything less and this front office needs the courage to make a change. It can make that alleged contract extension go away, no questions asked.
Jauron did address his job security. "I always feel like I'm playing for my job," he said. "It's the nature of our business. You can say that about any game and every game."
It was a clichéd answer, but at least he acknowledged that winning is the measuring stick in pro sports. Jauron is a fine human being but the fans booing their lungs out Sunday don't really care about that.
And if the 49ers don't want Singletary, maybe the Bills do. They've tried Docile Dick. Now how about Iron Mike II?

Source: Democrat and Chronicle (http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20081201/SPORTS0103/812010328)

Bills front office is a joke... Ralph Wilson... whoever is running that team... time to go. I mean didn't they give this guy a contract extenstion in week 7? The Bills front office clueless.

[Raiden]

Wasn't he supposed to be like, a super coaching genius?

Norv has failed in every team as HC, so this latest debacle shouldn't be a surprise.

[ScottyBBadd]

Wasn't he supposed to be like, a super coaching genius?

Offensive genius maybe.

[BlackLantern]

Great Shades of Elvis.....What the **** is Houston wearing???

[Immortalfire]

They do look rather horrible.

[FaT_tONle]

Great... now I have to watch a second of this ball game to see what the Texans are wearing... you guys are GREAT............

[Immortalfire]

Tonight's game isn't even the front story on Yahoo sports.

[Double Down]

You think Jacksonville and Houston could ever beat out a New York story?

[Mister J]

I thought that firing Schottenheimer was ridiculously stupid and petty at the time. I have not changed my mind.
I was in favor of getting rid of Marty, as I believe there's a ceiling to his coaching ability. Once the team has reached the point where it can contend to get in the playoffs each year, that's it. However, hiring Norv Turner, who since being blessed enough to call plays in Big D for one of the most star-studded offenses of all time, has had fairly limited success as a coordinator and none as a head coach (at least for a team with Super Bowl aspirations), was just plain silly.

Great Shades of Elvis.....What the **** is Houston wearing???
It's atrocious. Off hand, the putrid, late-70's, all red getups of the Cleveland Indians come to mind. Outside of something sported by the University of Oregon football team, nothing has rivaled the sheer ugliness of those unis ...until tonight. The league will fine you if you have on the wrong socks, but they allow stuff like this. I need to send The Hammer a memo.

[Double Down]

^ People also said the same thing about Bill Cowher and Tom Coughlin (amongst many others), though. Schottenheimer was very good at getting all of that talent to work together.

[Calvin]

Yeah, granted, Cassel is no Tom Brady, but the QB isn't the only player on the team. The defense was weak, and the offense let their QB get sacked multiple times and fumbled constantly. Pittsburgh on the other hand, looked stellar for the most part. :grin:

The Steelers may not have been perfect, but Harrison and the defense were f**king harsh, Big Ben had some great passes, Ward and Holmes had some awesome receptions, and Moore continued to make impressive runs. In fact, I have to say it: Willie Parker, though he did okay when they brought him back into the game, can retire for all I care. Pittsburgh has a much more versatile RB in Mewelde Moore.

I think you've forgotten how good Willie Parker is when he's healthy.

[Double Down]

From Rotoworld.com:

NYC mayor wants Giants' Burress behind bars (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&hl=133309&id=19)
New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg said he wants Plaxico Burress prosecuted "to the fullest extent of the law" for accidentally shooting himself with an unlicensed handgun.

Bloomberg: not a Giants fan. Reportedly fuming in anger, Bloomberg also said he wants the "book" thrown at NY-Cornell Hospital for failing to disclose Plax's situation to police. Burress shot himself in the wrong city. New York's gun laws are the toughest in the nation, largely because of Bloomberg. Plax's lawyers better be good. It would be a shock at this point if Burress played another snap in 2008.
Source: New York Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/12/01/2008-12-01_mayor_bloomberg_fuming_over_plaxico_shoo-3.html)

[FaT_tONle]

^ People also said the same thing about Bill Cowher and Tom Coughlin (amongst many others), though. Schottenheimer was very good at getting all of that talent to work together.

A.J Smith ****ed it up completely. I think Marty would have won a Superbowl this year had he stayed in San Diego. I think they would have gotten a better seed in 2007 and would have positioned themselves better to take out the Pats. The team ran out of gas last January. But at the end of they day... you can't blow that playoff game to the Pats when you are 14-2 and a one seed. Here is my quick fix on the Chargers:

1) STOP THROWING AWAY YOUR DRAFT PICKS... Jacob Hester??? A second rounder for a kid who couldn't block for a lick? Horrible move. And Chambers is a bum... perfect example of trading for a receiver who was clearly on the back end. Again... stop unloading these picks.

2) LT IS DONE... I hate to say it... but Tomlinson is shot... they brought in no backup replacement. The guy is playing out the string. He can't pick up that short yardage. The acceleration is gone. Start looking elsewhere. And bring in a freaking fullback that can block.

3) STOP DRAFTING CORNERS... I mean they have about three first round picks back there... they all stink. First... bring in a veteran safety that can make those in game adjustments and provide some leadership back there... next... replenish the front seven. Don't rely on Merriman coming back next year... replenish the front seven and generate a more consistent pass rush.

4) GET ANOTHER RECEIVER... Rivers needs a deep threat. Chargers need to bring in a big time receiver this off season. Whoever is out there... just bring him in and be done with it. Take the cap hit with Chambers.

5) PROTECTION... O-line is just flat out bad... and get another TE to free up Gates. Most teams need two good tight ends these days anyway.

[NewYorkSpider]

What in the hell was David Garrard thinking by just tossing the ball in the air like that? :huh: That's how you turn the ball over.

edit: nevermind. It was 4th down

[Edd Wright]

It's a shame that the Jags are getting pwng3d by Houston. Del Rio is out in a week or two mark my words.

[Marx]

From Rotoworld.com:

NYC mayor wants Giants' Burress behind bars (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&hl=133309&id=19)
New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg said he wants Plaxico Burress prosecuted "to the fullest extent of the law" for accidentally shooting himself with an unlicensed handgun.

Bloomberg: not a Giants fan. Reportedly fuming in anger, Bloomberg also said he wants the "book" thrown at NY-Cornell Hospital for failing to disclose Plax's situation to police. Burress shot himself in the wrong city. New York's gun laws are the toughest in the nation, largely because of Bloomberg. Plax's lawyers better be good. It would be a shock at this point if Burress played another snap in 2008.
Source: New York Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/12/01/2008-12-01_mayor_bloomberg_fuming_over_plaxico_shoo-3.html)

I don't see how Buress will play any of the rest of the season.

[Marx]

Welcome to the boards Edd Wright! :yay:

[FaT_tONle]

And I had San Diego hosting Jacksonville in the AFC championship... unbelievable.

[Double Down]

I don't see how Buress will play any of the rest of the season.


If they did a real-life version of "The Longest Yard," the cons could put together quite a team.
Off the top of my head, there is Michael Vick, Lawrence Phillips and Ray Carruth. They could be coached by OJ Simpson.

[Dr. Evil]

Burress will be meeting with Goddell very soon.....very soon.

(Dead Man Walking).........

[BlackLantern]

I have to agree with Bloomberg on this one....as time goes on I am sick and ****ing tired of hearing of these athletes getting into trouble over dumb ****....The Hammer is probably waiting for the legal system to suss this out first before looking at what the League is going to do...

[Excel]

And I had San Diego hosting Jacksonville in the AFC championship... unbelievable.

The 2nd most dissappointing team of the NFL

[Marx]

If they did a real-life version of "The Longest Yard," the cons could put together quite a team.
Off the top of my head, there is Michael Vick, Lawrence Phillips and Ray Carruth. They could be coached by OJ Simpson.

This is true.

[Dr. Evil]

If they did a real-life version of "The Longest Yard," the cons could put together quite a team.
Off the top of my head, there is Michael Vick, Lawrence Phillips and Ray Carruth. They could be coached by OJ Simpson.

And they would be called:

The Cincinnati Bengals

[Excel]

If they did a real-life version of "The Longest Yard," the cons could put together quite a team.
Off the top of my head, there is Michael Vick, Lawrence Phillips and Ray Carruth. They could be coached by OJ Simpson.

:hehe:

[Excel]

I think you've forgotten how good Willie Parker is when he's healthy.

Parker has always been incredibly overrated. Moore is the 3rd down back behind Mendenhall for the future.

[Marx]

And they would be called:

The Cincinnati Bengals

Watch it pal. Dallas has had its fair share of legal problems as well.

[Calvin]

Parker has always been incredibly overrated. Moore is the 3rd down back behind Mendenhall for the future.He's always been completely underrated in my opinion. At full health, I might even take him over Peterson on a given day.

I am very thankful for Moore though.

[Dr. Evil]

Jack Del Rio won't be back next year.

[Double Down]

What a fun game. There were more posts about the Texans uniforms than the actual game.
At least Kevin Walter did nothing. I just clinched first place in my league with a week left in the regular season.

[Dr. Evil]

Was there anymore Brett Favre talk?

[Double Down]

I didn't hear any (thank God).

[Excel]

Anybody else catch Bill Simmons article this week? Its hysterical.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/partone/081121

realized this during the Bears-Colts game in Week 1, when Kyle Orton waltzed into Indy and ruined the grand opening of Lucas Oil Stadium, the latest state-of-the-art football venue that seems much more interested in looking cool and making money over, you know, actually helping its home team win games. The place was so dead for four quarters that you could almost hear John Madden salivating over his postgame meal of fried turkey legs, blooming onions and Lipitor parmigiana. You could have laid a baby down at midfield, and it wouldn't have woken up.

[Trainwreck2100]

Watch it pal. Dallas has had its fair share of legal problems as well.

Tank Johnson's crimes aren't crimes commited in IL aren't crimes in Texas, everybody has a gun here.

[The Game]

Anybody else catch Bill Simmons article this week? Its hysterical.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/partone/081121

Lucas oil looks like trash anyway...........(waits for Surf DUI appearance)

[That-Guy]

I think you've forgotten how good Willie Parker is when he's healthy.

Parker was healthy most of last season, and the only reason he had so many 100 yard games is because they gave the ball to him on almost every play. I saw him drop balls, slip and fall for no reason, and constantly run straight into the pile for no gain.

But the biggest problem is that damn near EVERY time he goes in, its a red flag to the defense: "Oh, Pittsburgh's going to run the ball." Gee, who do you think they should cover? That's a bad move on the coach's and the offensive coordinator's part, but Parker's predictable method of "run wherever the most guys are" doesn't help either.

[kane9321]

norv turner should come back to SF..shouldnt have left in the 1st place

[Go Web Go!]

norv turner should come back to SF..shouldnt have left in the 1st place

You can't blame a guy for taking THAT head coaching position.

[Raiden]

You can't blame a guy for taking THAT head coaching position.

Norv Turner will always be a good offensive coordinator but lousy HC.

[Dr. Evil]

When San Diego hired Norv Turner, he needed to go 30-2 in his first two years in order to have a .500 record as a head coach.

That's how bad Turner's coaching record has been.

[Go Web Go!]

Norv Turner will always be a good offensive coordinator but lousy HC.

I don't disagree. I just said that I don't blame him for taking the SD job when he has guys like LT, Rivers, & Gates to work with.

[Belvedere]

Three consecutive home games for the Bears (JAX, NO, GB) then away @ HOU, I'm pretty sure we can beat both Jaxonville and Houston but we're going to really struggle against New Orleans.

We had better beat Green Bay at Soldier Field, or there will be hell to pay. :cmad:

[Double Down]

ESPN's new commercial with Adrian Peterson includes a cameo at the end by the University of Akron mascot.

:word::up:

[FaT_tONle]

Saints' McAllister, Vikings' Pat Williams and Kevin Williams among six suspended


The NFL announced Tuesday the suspension without pay for four games of six players -- Charles Grant, New Orleans, Deuce McAllister, New Orleans, Bryan Pittman, Houston Will Smith, New Orleans, Kevin Williams, Minnesota and Pat Williams, Minnesota -- that violated the NFL Policy on Anabolic Steroids and Related Substances.

The players specifically violated a longstanding provision of the policy relating to the use of diuretics and water pills, which serve as masking agents for steroids and are potentially dangerous to the health of players.

The policy states that the use of so-called “blocking” or “masking” agents, including diuretics and water pills, is prohibited and that a positive test will not be excused because it results from the use of a dietary supplement that unknowingly contained a banned substance. Supplements are not regulated or monitored by the government and players have been warned about the risks of supplement use.

“You and you alone are responsible for what goes into your body,” the policy has always stated. “Claiming that you used only legally available nutritional supplements will not help you in an appeal…Even if they are bought over-the-counter from a known establishment, there is currently no way to be sure that they contain the ingredients listed on the packaging or have not been tainted with prohibited substances…If you take these products, you do so AT YOUR OWN RISK! For your own health and success in the league, we strongly encourage you to avoid the use of supplements altogether, or at the very least to be extremely careful about what you choose to take.”

The six players are each suspended for the final four games of the regular-season. If the player’s team qualifies for the playoffs, he is eligible to return to the active roster on Monday, Dec. 29.

All I can say is... Cowboys better get that fifth seed... though the Williams will be back for the playoffs anyway... nevermind.

[Immortalfire]

Guess that's not all fat on Williams.

[Franklin Richards]

All I can say is... Cowboys better get that fifth seed... though the Williams will be back for the playoffs anyway... nevermind.

Being a Cowboy fan, I've seen my share of scandal. Thank goodness I didn't see the franchise when I was reading Game of Shadows.

Cowboys do drugs. Not steroids.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[Marx]

All I can say is... Cowboys better get that fifth seed... though the Williams will be back for the playoffs anyway... nevermind.

Yikes! :wow:

[FaT_tONle]

It's just that... without those tackles in the middle... Dallas would run all over Minnesota. But the Vikings may not even make the playoffs if those guys are out for December.

[Double Down]

Six players suspended today or Plaxico updates. Guess which one ESPN led with? I will give you a hint. Plaxico plays in New York, the six players do not.

[Marx]

Six players suspended today or Plaxico updates. Guess which one ESPN led with? I will give you a hint. Plaxico plays in New York, the six players do not.

I haven't seen anything more on Plax other than he showed up today in NY for treatment.

[Double Down]

I haven't seen anything more on Plax other than he showed up today in NY for treatment.

Really? They won't shut up about it on ESPN.
The Giants put him on the non-football injury list and he is out for the year.

[Marx]

Really? They won't shut up about it on ESPN.
The Giants put him on the non-football injury list and he is out for the year.

I guess I should try watching ESPN then. :funny:

[Immortalfire]

ESPN's Favorite Subjects..

Patriots
Brett Favre
Tony Romo
Red Sox
Brett Favre
Tim Tebow
Beanie Wells
Brett Favre
Brett Favre
Brett Favre

[Marx]

ESPN's Favorite Subjects..

Patriots
Brett Favre
Tony Romo
Red Sox
Brett Favre
Tim Tebow
Beanie Wells
Brett Favre
Brett Favre
Brett Favre

So true! :lmao:

[Double Down]

Plus:
Yankees
Where will LeBron go in 2010?
and
Brett Favre

[BlackLantern]

who is this Brett Favre that people speak of??

[Dr. Evil]

ESPN also talks about:

- Kobe Bryant
- Brett Favre
- Brett Favre
- Brett Favre
- Brett Favre

and Last but certainly not least: Brett Favre

[Excel]

ESPN's Favorite Subjects..

Patriots
Brett Favre
Tony Romo
Red Sox
Brett Favre
Tim Tebow
Beanie Wells
Brett Favre
Brett Favre
Brett Favre

LBJ 2010 plans

[Immortalfire]

and Last but certainly not least: Brett Favre

Yeah, him too.

[vindrow]

ESPN's Favorite Subjects..

Patriots
Patriots
Patriots
Brett Favre
Tom Bwady
Tony Romo
Red Sox
Patriots
Brett Favre
Tim Tebo
Tom Bwady
Beanie Wells
Patriots
Patriots
Brett Favre
Brett Favre
Brett Favre


There that looks a little closer to ESPN's broadcasting.

[Cmill216]

ESPN's Favorite Subjects..

Cowboys
Cowboys
Cowboys
Brett Favre and the Cowboys
Tony Romo and the Cowboys
Tony Romo
Red Sox
Red Sox
Red Sox
Brett Favre
Cowboys
Cowboys
Cowboys and the Red Sox
Cowboys
Brett Favre
Brett Favre
Brett Favre
Cowboys


No, NOW it looks a little more accurate.

[FaT_tONle]

Cowboys are America's team... they are pretty much the Yankees of football. They will be the story until they are eliminated... and Farve has been a top story... for almost a year now. No reason for that to change. When baseball season rolls around it will be Yankees/Red Sox as it always is. They'll trickle in the rest of the stuff as they come and go. There is nothing else to talk about. What else can they do? Regular season basketball??? Maybe some hot stove baseball... the big college football weekend/controvery. But once that is done... it will be all Cowboys and Farve. Throw in Peyton Manning and the Pats if they can make another run. Those are the only stories right now.

[NewYorkSpider]

Some clinching scenarios this week.


AFC

Tennesee Titans - can clinch the AFC South with a win or a Colts loss. They can clinch a first round bye with a win and a Jets loss.

Pittsburgh Steelers - can clinch playoff spot with a win + a Dolphins loss + a Patriots loss.

Denver Broncos - can clinch the AFC West with a win and a Chargers loss.

NFC

New York Giants - Clinch the NFC East with a win or a Cowboys loss. Can clinch a first round bye with a Cowboys loss + Cardinals loss + Vikings loss.

Arizona Cardinals - Clinch NFC West with a win or 49ers loss.

[DorneyDave]

I'm a Cowboys fan and I dislike ESPN's coverage. ESPN spends too much time sensationalizing sports rather than the sports themselves. The only good NFL show is NFL Match up and that comes on at like 3 a.m. I lean towards NFL Network for my NFL coverage.

[Double Down]

NFL Network owns ESPN. It's not even close. NFL Network's Adam Schefter gets more accurate scoops than the dozens of hacks at ESPN combined.

[The Game]

Some clinching scenarios this week.


AFC

Tennesee Titans - can clinch the AFC South with a win or a Colts loss. They can clinch a first round bye with a win and a Jets loss.

Pittsburgh Steelers - can clinch playoff spot with a win + a Dolphins loss + a Patriots loss.

Denver Broncos - can clinch the AFC West with a win and a Chargers loss.

NFC

New York Giants - Clinch the NFC East with a win or a Cowboys loss. Can clinch a first round bye with a Cowboys loss + Cardinals loss + Vikings loss.

Arizona Cardinals - Clinch NFC West with a win or 49ers loss.

Bar the Giants, this was not how I expected the season to go at all, good thing I am not a betting man

[Erzengel]

Cowboys are America's team... they are pretty much the Yankees of football. They will be the story until they are eliminated... and Farve has been a top story... for almost a year now. No reason for that to change. When baseball season rolls around it will be Yankees/Red Sox as it always is. They'll trickle in the rest of the stuff as they come and go. There is nothing else to talk about. What else can they do? Regular season basketball??? Maybe some hot stove baseball... the big college football weekend/controvery. But once that is done... it will be all Cowboys and Farve. Throw in Peyton Manning and the Pats if they can make another run. Those are the only stories right now.

Regardless that I'm a Giants fan. "America's team" is really a presumptuous title considering that the Cowboys have not dominated the NFL like the Yankees in MLB, the Celtics or Lakers in the NBA or the Canadiens in the NHL.

Add to the fact that the Cowboys while having the most Superbowl wins, they are TIED with the Steelers and the 49ers.

Lastly, I mean it was coined from an announcer during a game in 79.

Just don't get it. :huh:

[FaT_tONle]

Regardless that I'm a Giants fan. "America's team" is really a presumptuous title considering that the Cowboys have not dominated the NFL like the Yankees in MLB, the Celtics or Lakers in the NBA or the Canadiens in the NHL.

Add to the fact that the Cowboys while having the most Superbowl wins, they are TIED with the Steelers and the 49ers.

Lastly, I mean it was coined from an announcer during a game in 79.

Just don't get it. :huh:

Cowboys are WAY bigger than those other franchises... the only team that comes close is the Yankees. It isn't only about Championships... they are the most popular franchise in pro football. They pretty much made in the NFL what it is today. Yankees are more popular WW... Lakers as well. But that's why they call them "America's team".

[Franklin Richards]

Regardless that I'm a Giants fan. "America's team" is really a presumptuous title considering that the Cowboys have not dominated the NFL like the Yankees in MLB, the Celtics or Lakers in the NBA or the Canadiens in the NHL.

Add to the fact that the Cowboys while having the most Superbowl wins, they are TIED with the Steelers and the 49ers.

Lastly, I mean it was coined from an announcer during a game in 79.

Just don't get it. :huh:

It's just a moniker. Green Bay is Title Town. Doesn't mean they get the title all the time.

Just get over it. The Cowboy's Cheerleaders have a movie about them. There was a movie called North Dallas Forty fashioned after them. Roger Staubach was Captain America.

And let's face it. When the Cowboys are on TV the ratings go up. They are also Mexico's Team when ya think about it. Some venues are more Cowboys' fans than the home team. Check out those games at Arizona.

I'm sorry your team isn't as popular and the term makes you uncomfortable.



Oh wait.


I'm not.

:D


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[Erzengel]

Cowboys are WAY bigger than those other franchises... the only team that comes close is the Yankees. It isn't only about Championships... they are the most popular franchise in pro football. They pretty much made in the NFL what it is today. Yankees are more popular WW... Lakers as well. But that's why they call them "America's team".

It's just a moniker. Green Bay is Title Town. Doesn't mean they get the title all the time.

Just get over it. The Cowboy's Cheerleaders have a movie about them. There was a movie called North Dallas Forty fashioned after them. Roger Staubach was Captain America.

And let's face it. When the Cowboys are on TV the ratings go up. They are also Mexico's Team when ya think about it. Some venues are more Cowboys' fans than the home team. Check out those games at Arizona.

I'm sorry your team isn't as popular and the term makes you uncomfortable.



Oh wait.


I'm not.

:D


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I wouldn't expect there to be Giants fans outside of the tri state area. :huh: It doesn't bother me perse, it just sounds like a misnomer.

I mean wasn't there a survey when Favre was with Green Bay that actually had more people prefer that team?

And I'm not trying to be a uber fan but I don't hear much about Dallas around here, so saying that the Cowboys are bigger than the Yankees just sounds weird regardless of all the Yankee championships but how embedded it is in popular culture, movies, tv, etc. At least around me, which is the biggest networked city. Dallas isn't really a blip. And I'm not saying that to pat NY on the back. Just maybe America's team fame doesn't really move past the state of Texas. :huh:

[Franklin Richards]

I've lived in Hartford, Boulder, and Chicago. Trust me. The Boys get enough coverage.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[Erzengel]

Tony Kornheiser from ESPN said the same thing that the Cowboys are bigger than the Yankees. The other hosts sounded surprised that he did.

[Franklin Richards]

Having lived on the East Coast and in Chicago, I've noticed how big Baseball is those areas. People who live in Baseball Towns (NY, Boston, Chi) just don't realize how big the NFL really is. Kornheiser seems to be one of the few that realize that.

NFL > MLB

therefore

Cowboys > Yankees


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[RAMORE]

Too much coverage. I'm astonished how little love the bucs get we are 9-3 you know, and when we go to the superbowl this year it will be a hometown affair!!

[Erzengel]

Having lived on the East Coast and in Chicago, I've noticed how big Baseball is those areas. People who live in Baseball Towns (NY, Boston, Chi) just don't realize how big the NFL really is. Kornheiser seems to be one of the few that realize that.

NFL > MLB

therefore

Cowboys > Yankees


:thing: :doom: :thing:

I won't deny that football is more popular than baseball but by that rational in Texas, High School Football > College Football > NFL

LOL

[FaT_tONle]

No one gives a crap about baseball in the south... Texas... the midwest... south east. All they want down there is football... and maybe Nascar because that their only year round sport. Baseball is just so huge in the NY/Boston/Chicago region that football is an afterthought most of the year. Those regions don't even seriously talk about it until November. But those markets are not representative of the rest of the country.

[Cmill216]

Man, has there been a bigger disappointment this season than Vernon Gholston? :huh:

[Excel]

Man, has there been a bigger disappointment this season than Vernon Gholston? :huh:

Nope, but to his defense, wasnt he not allowed to take place in any team activity till like, the end of August? Something to do with his age or class or something.

[Go Web Go!]

Man, has there been a bigger disappointment this season than Vernon Gholston? :huh:

I honestly haven't seen the guy in one highlight. And to think that he was a favorite to be #1 pick early on in the draft hype.

[That-Guy]

Cowboys are America's team... they are pretty much the Yankees of football.

I know I'm obviously biased here, but the Steelers have also been regarded as "America's team." They both have 5 rings, so it's debatable (San Francisco does too, but no one really cares about them anymore because they suck so badly).

[That-Guy]

Some clinching scenarios this week.


AFC

Pittsburgh Steelers - can clinch playoff spot with a win + a Dolphins loss + a Patriots loss.




Steelers, FTW!

[BlackLantern]

I know I'm obviously biased here, but the Steelers have also been regarded as "America's team." They both have 5 rings, so it's debatable (San Francisco does too, but no one really cares about them anymore because they suck so badly).

Maybe by people in PA, but that's about it.....SI have run cover stories with Dallas as "America's Team"....I have yet to see something similar in that publication or others that regard the Steelers as such

[That-Guy]

Maybe by people in PA, but that's about it.....SI have run cover stories with Dallas as "America's Team"....I have yet to see something similar in that publication or others that regard the Steelers as such

There was talk about it when the Steelers were in the Superbowl in '05; it was Terrible Towels Across America. It's really not a big deal... just trying to give my team some credit. Of course, it doesn't help their cause that the only Bowl they lost was to the Cowboys.

[BlackLantern]

I hope this whole Plaxico thing gets resolved....the Giants made the right move in what they did....

[Dr. Evil]

Well, Plaxico won't have a meeting with Goddell after all.

I hear that Antonio Pierce may be in trouble for the incident. He may have to meet with Goddell.

[BlackLantern]

If Pierce did try to conceal the gun or something to that affect, he should be punished as well....

[Dr. Evil]

If Pierce did try to conceal the gun or something to that affect, he should be punished as well....

yes he should and if the Giants don't suspend him, the NFL will.

[Marx]

If Pierce did try to conceal the gun or something to that affect, he should be punished as well....

yes he should and if the Giants don't suspend him, the NFL will.

Exactly.

[Erzengel]

After the Playoffs. :up:

[BlackLantern]

After the Playoffs. :up:

sorry no...I am a Giants fan, but I support Goodells policy of swift discipline....

[Erzengel]

You're the party pooper. :csad:

[Nightmare]

Why should Pierce get suspended? Just cause he was along with the idiot who shot himself? Was pierce carrying a gun as well or what?

[Erzengel]

He "allegedly" hid the gun after the shooting.

[BlackLantern]

If it's found that he did do that, then it needs to be handled.....

[Dark Donnie]

I thought it was all but confirmed he did take it back to Plaxico's NJ house? I thought the only thing unclear at the moment was Bradshaws involvement?

I could be wrong though.

[Double Down]

I turned on the NFL Network and they are replaying the Steelers-Patriots game. It starts with a stat that NE has won 6 of the past 7 matchups. Then the Steelers fumble the kickoff, but recover it, only to get a 15-yard penalty. Then Big Ben throws a pick and the Patriots go on to score. A graphic says the Pats have won 23 straight regular season games when scoring first.
At this point, it's really hard to believe Pittsburgh not only won, but blew them out.

[BlackLantern]

I thought it was all but confirmed he did take it back to Plaxico's NJ house? I thought the only thing unclear at the moment was Bradshaws involvement?

I could be wrong though.

Bradshaw has been ruled out as a person of interest

[That-Guy]

I turned on the NFL Network and they are replaying the Steelers-Patriots game. It starts with a stat that NE has won 6 of the past 7 matchups. Then the Steelers fumble the kickoff, but recover it, only to get a 15-yard penalty. Then Big Ben throws a pick and the Patriots go on to score. A graphic says the Pats have won 23 straight regular season games when scoring first.
At this point, it's really hard to believe Pittsburgh not only won, but blew them out.

Believe it. Just wait until the second half. Pittsburgh started out a little rough, it's true, but damn did they ever finish up well.

[Excel]

The Giants have played better without him than with him this year and he hasnt doe a whole lot since week 1 even when he was healthy.

[The Game]

I turned on the NFL Network and they are replaying the Steelers-Patriots game. It starts with a stat that NE has won 6 of the past 7 matchups. Then the Steelers fumble the kickoff, but recover it, only to get a 15-yard penalty. Then Big Ben throws a pick and the Patriots go on to score. A graphic says the Pats have won 23 straight regular season games when scoring first.
At this point, it's really hard to believe Pittsburgh not only won, but blew them out.

It was 10-10 at the half, and at that point I thought we would win a very close game................boy was I wrong :csad:

The Giants have played better without him than with him this year and he hasnt doe a whole lot since week 1 even when he was healthy.

How does a guy go from gaining so much respect for playing hurt last year, to being a complete headcase this season?

[Dark Donnie]

While I hate The Giants and the Fans :cwink:...I do feel bad for Plax to a degree. I don't necessarily think the the guy is some thug, I just think he's plain stupid for carrying a gun. With the money he has why not hire a security guard or something. That walk of shame they had him do was pretty bad.

[FaT_tONle]

I know I'm obviously biased here, but the Steelers have also been regarded as "America's team." They both have 5 rings, so it's debatable (San Francisco does too, but no one really cares about them anymore because they suck so badly).

See... by writing off SF... which you just did... you helped make my argument. It isn't just about championships.

[SurfDUI]

America's team:whatever: good one.
-That antiquated title was pre-cable T.V. and pre at least 4 teams in the league. Back when there was no way possible for you to see an eighth of the Nationally broadcast games, unless CBS had a double header. I don't even know if Tom Landry is still living.

An equation to find a real 'America's team' is annual Jersey sales + number of tmes your QB shows up in national commercials...ya know, like Mastercards and Sony T.V.'s

[Alex The Great]

LOL at Plaxico :yay:

Oh and ugh, ugly loss for the Pats....sigh

[vindrow]

Cowboys are WAY bigger than those other franchises... the only team that comes close is the Yankees. It isn't only about Championships... they are the most popular franchise in pro football. They pretty much made in the NFL what it is today. Yankees are more popular WW... Lakers as well. But that's why they call them "America's team".


Thats not how the Cowboys got that name this is how they got it:

NFL Films approached the Rooney family in the 1970s wanting to christen the Steelers "America's Team." But Dan Rooney told them, "We don't want to be America's Team – we want to be Pittsburgh's team." So NFL Films bestowed the title "America's Team" on the Cowboys.

[NewYorkSpider]

I wish Sunday would get here faster. Some good matchups this week.

[Go Web Go!]

America's team:whatever: good one.
-That antiquated title was pre-cable T.V. and pre at least 4 teams in the league. Back when there was no way possible for you to see an eighth of the Nationally broadcast games, unless CBS had a double header. I don't even know if Tom Landry is still living.

An equation to find a real 'America's team' is annual Jersey sales + number of tmes your QB shows up in national commercials...ya know, like Mastercards and Sony T.V.'s

That's exactly right...


















:o

[FaT_tONle]

Thats not how the Cowboys got that name this is how they got it:

NFL Films approached the Rooney family in the 1970s wanting to christen the Steelers "America's Team." But Dan Rooney told them, "We don't want to be America's Team – we want to be Pittsburgh's team." So NFL Films bestowed the title "America's Team" on the Cowboys.


And they maintained the title.

[Erzengel]

So the Cowboys took the sloppy seconds title from the Steelers? :o

[Erzengel]

Saw the back of the Post or Daily News and it says that Antonio Pierce will spill everything from that night in exchange for no charges.

[That-Guy]

Thats not how the Cowboys got that name this is how they got it:

NFL Films approached the Rooney family in the 1970s wanting to christen the Steelers "America's Team." But Dan Rooney told them, "We don't want to be America's Team – we want to be Pittsburgh's team." So NFL Films bestowed the title "America's Team" on the Cowboys.

Thanks, I thought there might have been some actual history behind the title but I wasn't totally clear on it. Good to see there are other Steeler fans here too. Here's to hoping we'll be the first team to get six rings... maybe this year, you never know!

[Franklin Richards]

An equation to find a real 'America's team' is annual Jersey sales + number of tmes your QB shows up in national commercials...ya know, like Mastercards and Sony T.V.'s

The Dallas Cowboys, According to NFL Jersey Sales, Are Obnoxiously Popular

Will Brinson Posted Oct 17th 2008 10:55AM by Will Brinson
Filed under: Cowboys, NFL Fans, NFL Media Watch


It's never that surprising to hear that a large portion of America is all about the Dallas Cowboys. After all, they are "America's Team" (for whatever reason) and they seem to consistently provide each generation with a reason to jump on that bandwagon.

I'm fairly certain that people my age were in a polarizing love/hate relationship with the Aikman - Emmitt - Irvin 'Boys, and I think that Romo - Barber - Witten inspire the same sort of thing. (Oh yeah, Terrell Owens too.) Or maybe not. Because it looks like, based on the top 10 NFL jersey sales (via Darren Rovell), that everyone just loves them.

1. Brett Favre, New York Jets
2. Tony Romo, Dallas Cowboys
3. Eli Manning, New York Giants
4. Marion Barber, Dallas Cowboys
5. Tom Brady, New England Patriots
6. Adrian Peterson, Minnesota Vikings
7. Peyton Manning, Indianapolis Colts
8. Jason Witten, Dallas Cowboys
9. LaDainian Tomlinson, San Diego Chargers
10. Terrell Owens, Dallas Cowboys

Ah yes. I just remembered why so many people hate them. They're a huge bandwagon! No, seriously -- how else can you possibly explain a tight end being the eighth best selling jersey in America?

Or, perhaps the fact that Marion Barber is the fourth-best selling jersey, and Adrian Peterson is only sixth. Barber's been great, of course, but in a world where talent and ability to perform without any semblance of a quarterback should matter, there's no way he's better than 'Purple Jesus'.


AOL Sports (http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2008/10/17/the-dallas-cowboys-according-to-nfl-jersey-sales-are-obnoxious/)




So... how do you figure out who America's Team is again?


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[Immortalfire]

You left out the Master Card commercials equation, Franklin.

[Franklin Richards]

I'm sure Romo will be doing his share soon. :D


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[BlackLantern]

I remember when I first visited Hong Kong, I saw people with Dallas cowboys tshirts....

[Dark Donnie]

Saw the back of the Post or Daily News and it says that Antonio Pierce will spill everything from that night in exchange for no charges.

Antonio Pierce-LB-Giants Dec. 4 - 11:10 am et

Giants MLB Antonio Pierce has agreed to testify and "come clean" before a grand jury about what transpired on the Fright night Plaxico Burress accidentally shot himself at a New York nightclub.

Police sources say Pierce will be cleared of any wrongdoing if he's truthful about what happened with his teammate and how the night developed after the accident. According to the NY Post, Pierce won't have to throw his friend under the bus because Plax "is already under the bus." If Pierce had refused to testify, he likely would been charged with a crime and possibly suspended.
Source: New York Post

[The Game]

I remember when I first visited Hong Kong, I saw people with Dallas cowboys tshirts....

I remember reading that the Cowboys are the second most supported sports franchise worldwide after Manchester United............that is freaking huge

[Belvedere]

I remember reading that the Cowboys are the second most supported sports franchise worldwide after Manchester United............that is freaking huge

They're like rats, you're never more than three feet away from one of them.

That would work better if I wasn't a United supporter myself. :o

[The Game]

They're like rats, you're never more than three feet away from one of them.

That would work better if I wasn't a United supporter myself. :o

As a Chelsea man let me say it, LOL

[KALEL114]

Thats not how the Cowboys got that name this is how they got it:

NFL Films approached the Rooney family in the 1970s wanting to christen the Steelers "America's Team." But Dan Rooney told them, "We don't want to be America's Team – we want to be Pittsburgh's team." So NFL Films bestowed the title "America's Team" on the Cowboys.

Um no.



http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8074cf30

[Erzengel]

Isn't that wikipedia.

[KALEL114]

Isn't that wikipedia.

My post? It was originally, then I found a better source.

[Dr. Evil]

NFL Films = Greatness

That is all for now.

:whatever:

[Buford The Sly]

They're like rats, you're never more than three feet away from one of them.

That would work better if I wasn't a United supporter myself. :o

Or five posters away... Go Cowboys!

[The Apocalypse]

Saw the back of the Post or Daily News and it says that Antonio Pierce will spill everything from that night in exchange for no charges.

Snitches get stitches! :woot:

[BlackLantern]

Snitches get stitches! :woot:

Let's jeopardize a career in the NFL for some outdated thinking:csad: and some BS "code of the hood"

[The Apocalypse]

Let's jeopardize a career in the NFL for some outdated thinking:csad: and some BS "code of the hood"

Twas a joke.

[BlackLantern]

I know....

[Assassin32]

Snitches get stitches, and end up in ditches.:cmad:

[BlackLantern]

I've always gone with playing dumb....someone asks "Did you see....?" my answer is usually "I didn't see ****" and go on about my day

[SurfDUI]

Let's jeopardize a career in the NFL for some outdated thinking:csad: and some BS "code of the hood"

I prefer 'Playground rules', a hood code could change from 40th to 41st street. The snitch thing came from both sides doin dirt and one blows whistle on the other. Which is a naw naw.- but it sells T-shirts.:csad:

[SurfDUI]

I hope the Lions get the Vikings-there last best shot. It's a divison game and it could be close, but with them 2 brothas NOT gettin suspended over that B.S. dirty drop, and a Judge in Minnesota puttin his two cents in, Lions might not have a shot anyway.

I don't nee to see any team go Oh-fer.

[Dark Donnie]

Shaun Ellis-DL-Jets Dec. 4 - 7:11 pm et

Jets DE Shaun Ellis was arrested for marijuana possession just minutes from the team's practice facility last week after a traffic stop.
Ellis was also cited for driving without insurance and speeding. The Jets' defensive co-captain was allegedly "uncooperative" with police before being taken into custody. He could avoid a 2008 suspension because it's so late in the season, but the NFL is certain to look into the matter. Ellis has 6.5 sacks, 34 tackles (23 solo), and a forced fumble through 12 games.
Source: New York Daily News

[Alex The Great]

Those New Yorkers are mad!

[Metropolis_Man]

In all honesty, if you want to call a singular team in the NFL "America's Team". It should be the New England Patriots.

[KALEL114]

They could be "America's Team*".

J/K

[The Game]

In all honesty, if you want to call a singular team in the NFL "America's Team". It should be the New England Patriots.

Maybe America's Most Hated Team?

[Alex The Great]

Maybe America's Most Hated Team?
That works :o

[Go Web Go!]

In all honesty, if you want to call a singular team in the NFL "America's Team". It should be the New England Patriots.



Team of the decade, sure, but America was unaware of there even being a football team in New England until 2001. How about we just end the whole "America's Team" non-sense before it gets even more out of hand. :down

[FaT_tONle]

SD getting their act together against the Raiders, though it is the Raiders... but if the Broncos somehow slip up against KC this week... who knows? They already lost to them earlier in the year. And they finish @ Carolina and home to Buffalo. Not easy... San Diego wins 3 straight... Denver loses 2 of 3... both play for the division week 17. That would be fun.

[Immortalfire]

San Diego and Oakland...what a thriller :sleepy:

[Immortalfire]

Team of the decade, sure, but America was unaware of there even being a football team in New England until 2001.

For sure. I certainly never heard of em til then.

[Venom'sDad]

Let it be known..... for the record,

:mad::mad::mad:I HATE:mad:AL DAVIS!!! :mad::mad::mad:

[Venom'sDad]

Loves Justin Miller......................... 4now. :dry:

[jaguarr]

Let it be known..... for the record,

:mad::mad::mad:I HATE:mad:AL DAVIS!!! :mad::mad::mad:

AMEN AND HALLELUJAH!!!!!

jag

[kane9321]

HAHA raiders....jokes

[Go Web Go!]

Let it be known..... for the record,

:mad::mad::mad:I HATE:mad:AL DAVIS!!! :mad::mad::mad:

But he's the cute & cuddly grandpa

[Silver Knight]

What a great game this is...

[Dark Donnie]

The Raiders literally have no one to throw to but Zack Miller

[Double Down]

The Raiders literally have no one to throw to but Zack Miller

You forgot about Cooper, Cromartie and Wilhelm. They caught throws from the Raiders tonight.

:hehe:

[FaT_tONle]

So can we get into the matchups that matter now??? Lemme throw some picks out there for this week:

Giants 27 Eagles 24... Eagles season finally comes to an end.

Pittsburg 17 Dallas 16... Just don't like Dallas in this spot.

Falcons 45 Saints 28... Sean Payton's game plan on offense... 65 passes... 5 runs.

Ravens 45 Redskins 10... Redskins are that bad.

Bucs 20 Panthers 13... Delhomme isn't playing at a high level anymore.

[Double Down]

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=210921&title=jon-stewart-touches-kids

"Damn, these sweatpants make a bad holster."

[Dark Donnie]

From The Huddle, Rotoworld and KFFL

Tomlinson not expected to play beyond 2011 season
KFFL- Kevin Acee, of The San Diego Union-Tribune, reports San Diego Chargers RB Ladainian Tomlinson has made it clear he will not play beyond his current contract, which expires after the 2011 season. Thu Dec 4 11:58:34 a.m. ET 2008

Tomlinson won't play beyond 2011
TheHuddle- The San Diego Union-Tribune reports Chargers RB Ladainian Tomlinson has made it clear he will not play beyond his current contract, which expires after the 2011 season.
Analysis: This isn't all that surprising, given that LT has already exceeded the life expectancy of a running back--specifically, he's spent more time at an elite level than most backs who ever reach that level. That run appears to be reaching its end, and LT's fantasy career may end prior to 2011 even if he sticks around. Few athletes are able to walk away before their career takes a sharp downward turn, and Tomlinson will have multiple opportunities to change his mind over the next three years. Thu Dec 4 12:23:29 p.m. ET 2008

Chargers could trade LT2 after this season
Rotoworld- The San Diego Union-Tribune suggests that Ladainian Tomlinson could be traded in the offseason.
Analysis: Tomlinson has a monster contract that would have to be redone to facilitate a deal. He also turns 30 before next season and will be coming off his worst year as a pro, so his trade value is weak. While GM A.J. Smith could draft LT's heir apparent in April, expect to see him back in powder blue in 2009. Thu Dec 4 12:47:00 p.m. ET 2008

[Double Down]

Adam Schefter (http://blogs.nfl.com/category/adam-schefter/)
QBs could flood market in offseason (http://blogs.nfl.com/2008/12/05/qbs-could-flood-market-in-offseason/)

No offseason in recent memory, and maybe ever, has provided the quantity of intrigue that this one will regarding quarterbacks.
A handful of high-profile quarterbacks are scheduled to be unrestricted free agents. Other well-known quarterbacks could be traded. Another talented but troubled one could be reinstated. All together, the collection of quarterbacks is going to create one of the most fascinating off-seasons in NFL history.
Check out the list of quarterbacks that could be available.

Donovan McNabb — If traded, the Eagles would recoup at least a first-round pick and free up $9.2 million against their salary cap. Minnesota and Chicago are the most logical landing spots, though Tampa Bay always has had a fascination with McNabb and franchise quarterbacks.


Kurt Warner — Talks between Warner and the Cardinals have not progressed at all. Arizona always could slap the $14 million franchise tag on Warner, who doesn’t want to leave. But if the Cardinals don’t take care of him, the 49ers or Rams might.


Derek Anderson — Anderson is owed a $5 million roster bonus by the middle of March. If Cleveland is going to trade Anderson, it is going to do it before it pays him more money. If the Browns keep him, he counts $9 million against the cap. If Minnesot a can’t land McNabb, Anderson is a nice consolation prize.


Matt Cassel — New England could franchise Cassel, but then he would be making $14 million –- as much as Tom Brady is scheduled to earn the next two seasons. Maybe Cassel can become Brett Favre’s successor with the Jets.


Kerry Collins — After playing the way he has played this season, Collins no longer will be content to be a backup next season. He feels as if he deserves a starting job and should be compensated for it. He is scheduled to become a free agent; he will find out just where he stands.


Jeff Garcia — Garcia and the Buccaneers have been waiting to divorce since the off-season and will this winter, when the quarterback’s contract is up. Maybe, fittingly, he could finish his career in San Francisco.


Michael Vick — If and when NFL commissioner Roger Goodell reinstates Vick, the Falcons will be forced to release him. Vick would be the perfect Raider. Even if JaMarcus Russell improves at quarterback, maybe the Raiders could convert Vick to receiver.


Jon Kitna — When Detroit cleans house in the off-season, Kitna will be one of the first players to go. He could be a nice stopgap quarterback for a team that drafts one of the country’s top young quarterbacks.


Rex Grossman — Once he was good enough to help lead the Bears to the Super Bowl. But Kyle Orton has taken over the Bears starting quarterback job and forced Grossman, who will be an unrestricted free agent, to move on.


Vince Young — Should the Titans commit to Collins, the question then becomes what the team does with Young. It says it wants him around. But it could be challenging to keep both their top quarterbacks.


Matt Leinart — The Young/Collins story in Tennessee is eerily similar to the Leinart/Warner story in Arizona.


Matt Hasselbeck — Seattle has begun pondering life without Hasselbeck. If the Seahawks had a successor in waiting, it might be easier to trade or release Hasselbeck. But with no viable options on the horizon, chances are Hasselbeck is back.


Marc Bulger — Trading Bulger would be a cap-neutral move for the Rams, making it a definite possibility. But they would need to find a college signal caller to replace him.


Alex Smith — Once the former No. 1 overall pick, Smith is not going to see the $9.5 million he was scheduled to make next season in San Francisco. The two sides might be better off divorcing.
As if that weren’t enough, there are other quarterbacks to consider. Tennessee’s Chris Simms and Detroit’s Dan Orlovsky also are scheduled to become free agents. Houston’s Sage Rosenfels and Miami’s John Beck are other pickup possibilities. And these are just the quarterbacks. There also could be anywhere from six to 10 head coaching changes.
So we are on the verge of one of the most tumultous off-seasons in NFL history.
Last off-season revolved around where Favre would land. The coming off-season will center around an enormous number of significant changes at the most high-profile position in sports. As T.O. would say about some of the very quarterbacks he has caught passes from, get your popcorn ready.

[Go Web Go!]

Yeah, the Titans might want to hold on to Vince Young unless someone's willing to send them a couple of high picks. You can't commit to Kerry Collins. He's done a great job this year, but he's 36. I wouldn't sign him for more than a year beyond this one and any team that's willing to offer more than that needs to evalate their front office guys.

[Ace of Knaves]

So does anyone think that my Falcs have a realistic chance of winning the NFC South? Who have Carolina and TB got coming up? I feel we will do the Saints again.

[Immortalfire]

So does anyone think that my Falcs have a realistic chance of winning the NFC South? Who have Carolina and TB got coming up? I feel we will do the Saints again.

Falcs? :dry:

Please don't abbreviate team names. :o

[Ace of Knaves]

Falcs? :dry:

Please don't abbreviate team names. :o

Sorry man!! As a fellow FALCON fan do you think we have a realistic chance of winning the NFC south? Who have Carolina and TB got coming up? If they lose their next couple and we beat the Saints(which I think we will) then it's ours!

[Immortalfire]

I remain cautiously hopeful. The next two games are gonna be thoughies I'm thinking, and they will all but tell the tale of what happens to us.
Of course, what Tampa and Carolina do will factor in as well.

It ought to be quite a show over the next couple of weeks in the NFC south.

Falcons' next 4 games-
@ New Orleans
vs. Tampa Bay
@ Minnesota
vs. St Louis

Buccaneers' next 4 games
@ Carolina
@ Atlanta
vs. San Diego
vs. Oakland

Panthers' next 4 games
vs. Tampa Bay
vs. Denver
@ NY Giants
@ New Orleans

[Ace of Knaves]

I remain cautiously hopeful. The next two games are gonna be thoughies I'm thinking, and they will all but tell the tale of what happens to us.
Of course, what Tampa and Carolina do will factor in as well.

It ought to be quite a show over the next couple of weeks in the NFC south.

Falcons' next 4 games-
@ New Orleans
vs. Tampa Bay
@ Minnesota
vs. St Louis

Buccaneers' next 4 games
@ Carolina
@ Atlanta
vs. San Diego
vs. Oakland

Panthers' next 4 games
vs. Tampa Bay
vs. Denver
@ NY Giants
@ New Orleans

Hmmmm, the Panthers have a tougher schedule on paper. So the ideal situation would be that they beat TB and lose to Denver, NY and hopefully the Saints.
Then if we beat TB and the Saints, and TB lose to SD we'll be on top right? I can see us beating the Rams, the Vikings will be tricky though.

[Immortalfire]

I'm going to those two home games, actually. Buccaneers and Rams..cool?

[FaT_tONle]

If the Falcons run the table they'll win the division, as long as Carolina doesn't win out.

[Ace of Knaves]

I'm going to those two home games, actually. Buccaneers and Rams..cool?

Awesome!! I've been to America a few times, my next ambition is to get over to ATL and see the Falcons. I gotsta do it!! I'm old enough to drink over there now aswell :applaud

If the Falcons run the table they'll win the division, as long as Carolina doesn't win out.

Hopefully, all we can do is just win our remaining games. TB and Vikings will be the tricky ones.

[FaT_tONle]

TB @ Atl game will decide the division... not this Monday Nighter coming up. As long as you take care of business against the Saints ofcourse. The tie breakers are log jams though... Divsion record is almost even for all three teams... common games are pretty much even between the three (Everyone has beaten the NFC West opp, lost to the NFC East opp)... conference record is pretty much even (Everyone may finish 3-1 the AFC West, giving them the same conference record). Carolina has the toughest schedule so they'd win SOS if it comes to that.

[Ace of Knaves]

TB @ Atl game will decide the division... not this Monday Nighter coming up. As long as you take care of business against the Saints ofcourse. The tie breakers are log jams though... Divsion record is almost even for all three teams... common games are pretty much even between the three (Everyone has beaten the NFC West opp, lost to the NFC East opp)... conference record is pretty much even (Everyone is 3-1 or 3-0 against the AFC West, giving them the same conference record). Carolina has the toughest schedule so they'd win SOS if it comes to that.

So MNF is Falcons vs Saints? That means it will be on TV over here!!

[Immortalfire]

So MNF is Falcons vs Saints? That means it will be on TV over here!!

No..this Monday is Buccaneers/Panthers.

Falcons are not on MNF this year.

[Ace of Knaves]

No..this Monday is Buccaneers/Panthers.

Falcons are not on MNF this year.

What!?!?! That is a joke! We are one of the most entertaining teams in the whole league. They give MNF to Jaxonville and the Texans but not Falcons vs Saints?! Insanity I tells ya!

[FaT_tONle]

One note about the Panthers as I write them off... they are unbeaten at home... should they beat TB on Monday and Denver the following week... and should the Giants lose to either Philli or @ Dallas (good chance IMO)... that week 16 game is for homefield advantage... that's how tight this conference is.

[Immortalfire]

What!?!?! That is a joke! We are one of the most entertaining teams in the whole league. They give MNF to Jaxonville and the Texans but not Falcons vs Saints?! Insanity I tells ya!

They set the game dates months in advance. And when you figure Atlanta was "supposed" to only win 1-2 games this year, it's not surprising they aren't showing up here. They weren't going to have a MNF game in an empty dome.

Or so they thought, lol.

[Ace of Knaves]

One note about the Panthers as I right them off... they are unbeaten at home... should they beat TB on Monday and Denver the following week... and should the Giants lose to either Philli or @ Dallas (good chance IMO)... that week 16 game is for homefield advantage... that's how tight this conference is.

Yea I don't underestimate the Panthers for one second. I don't like them, but they play a good solid game.

They set the game dates months in advance. And when you figure Atlanta was "supposed" to only win 1-2 games this year, it's not surprising they aren't showing up here. They weren't going to have a MNF game in an empty dome.

Or so they thought, lol.

Hahaha indeed.

[Go Web Go!]

They set the game dates months in advance. And when you figure Atlanta was "supposed" to only win 1-2 games this year, it's not surprising they aren't showing up here. They weren't going to have a MNF game in an empty dome.

Or so they thought, lol.

You know what that means though? You'll get 12 primetime games next season like the Browns did this season after overachieving last year.

[Ace of Knaves]

You know what that means though? You'll get 12 primetime games next season like the Browns did this season after overachieving last year.


Yea but I don't think we will go the way of the Browns. In fact i think we'll improve next year.

Matt Ryan has proved that he will be THE elite QB in the years to come. Michael Turner, if he stays healthy, will keep rolling. And Roddy White has emerged as a premier wide-out. I also like the look of our tight end Peele.

[The Game]

Sorry man!! As a fellow FALCON fan do you think we have a realistic chance of winning the NFC south? Who have Carolina and TB got coming up? If they lose their next couple and we beat the Saints(which I think we will) then it's ours!

I still think Caro (see what I did there :yay:) will take it, we all know its going to be a close finish

[Ace of Knaves]

I still think Caro (see what I did there :yay:) will take it, we all know its going to be a close finish

I see it! I see what you did there!

That's why this season has been the best for years, unpredictable=exciting. close finishes=extremely exciting!

Wouldn't want it any other way.

[kane9321]

that was a great game..friggin awesome

[Ace of Knaves]

that was a great game..friggin awesome

what was?

[Excel]

You know what that means though? You'll get 12 primetime games next season like the Browns did this season after overachieving last year.

:applaud

[Raiden]

Let it be known..... for the record,

:mad::mad::mad:I HATE:mad:AL DAVIS!!! :mad::mad::mad:

Seconded. I will not root for Raiders again until he leaves the organization, which will probably only happen upon his death bed unfortunately.

[Erzengel]

Heh, there's a recent video about Al Davis from NFL Films stating the rise and downfall of the team since he's been there.

[Raiden]

Adam Schefter (http://blogs.nfl.com/category/adam-schefter/)
QBs could flood market in offseason (http://blogs.nfl.com/2008/12/05/qbs-could-flood-market-in-offseason/)


Matt Cassel — New England could franchise Cassel, but then he would be making $14 million –- as much as Tom Brady is scheduled to earn the next two seasons. Maybe Cassel can become Brett Favre’s successor with the Jets.


I can see that happening, since Brady is still young and Belichick won't keep a backup QB who commands high salary. Besides, Belichick believes that it is the system that makes the players (except Brady), not the other way around, so he has been reluctant to resign their players like Asante Samuel. Jets will only have Favre for another year, and their young QB looks like won't become their QB of the future, so having Cassel to take over Favre may be a logical move if they can sign him.

[Erzengel]

I think if the Jets win the Superbowl, Favre will retire. I have a feeling if they get close, you'll look at another year with Favre.

[Immortalfire]

Yea but I don't think we will go the way of the Browns. In fact i think we'll improve next year.

Matt Ryan has proved that he will be THE elite QB in the years to come. Michael Turner, if he stays healthy, will keep rolling. And Roddy White has emerged as a premier wide-out. I also like the look of our tight end Peele.

Indeed, Thomas Dimitroff is already working to keep most of our guys for awhile. With just about everyone coming back, and also with the added whomevers we pick up in free agency...look out for the Falcons in '09.

[FaT_tONle]

I think if the Jets win the Superbowl, Favre will retire. I have a feeling if they get close, you'll look at another year with Favre.

I think if he gets to a Superbowl or AFC Championship and loses... he needs to hang it up... because he can't expect to get there every year at this point. Jets are getting old at the skill positions and they are a Kris Jenkins injury away from being a sub-par defense once again.

If he wins a Superbowl... he needs to come back one more year and try to go back to back like Elway... because he gets a free pass regardless of how the year goes. And the Jets don't have ANYONE under the wings right now. Clemens is probably not the answer. Jets need to draft or trade up for a QB and have him sit on the bench for a full year. None of the guys in the upcoming FA class are the answer either. Just stop gaps... good thing for the Jets was Farve was the best "stop gap" guy on the market last year... so it was the right move.

[Ace of Knaves]

Indeed, Thomas Dimitroff is already working to keep most of our guys for awhile. With just about everyone coming back, and also with the added whomevers we pick up in free agency...look out for the Falcons in '09.

Yep! I think we are good on the offensive side of the ball, maybe some defensive aquisitions will help complete the team.

Mike Smith is a defensive minded coach, i'd like to see him continue to build HIS own defensive unit. Good times ahead me thinks! :applaud