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Kelly
01-11-2009, 05:08 PM
Embrace destiny, Kel

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/doubledown44/p1_warner.jpg


grrr.....

Matt
01-11-2009, 05:11 PM
Steelers get the ball back after half time. If they can score again after the half they can blow this game wide open.

Dr. Evil
01-11-2009, 05:11 PM
Nantz is great at PGA Golf coverage.

And what the hell is the name of that techno music that plays prior to each kickoff?

Holiday
01-11-2009, 05:13 PM
Great game so far. San Diego is hanging in there, they need more pressure on Big Ben though.

Kaleb
01-11-2009, 05:15 PM
Nantz is great at PGA Golf coverage.

And what the hell is the name of that techno music that plays prior to each kickoff?

lol its Zombie Nation , and it gets waaay overused.

Go Web Go!
01-11-2009, 05:16 PM
Nantz is great at PGA Golf coverage.

And what the hell is the name of that techno music that plays prior to each kickoff?

Sounds like Darude. Takes me back to my Freshman year in high school. :o

StorminNorman
01-11-2009, 05:18 PM
Come on Bolts

Double Down
01-11-2009, 05:18 PM
Nantz is great at PGA Golf coverage.

And what the hell is the name of that techno music that plays prior to each kickoff?

whJcpKbdm0E

The song is called Kernkraft 400.

Alex The Great
01-11-2009, 05:19 PM
WILLIE PAAAAAARKER! TOUCH DOWN STEELERS! :woot:
Enlarge your avvy you bum :cmad:

:heart:

Matt
01-11-2009, 05:20 PM
Come on Bolts

Not you, Norm :csad:

Enlarge your avvy you bum :cmad:

:heart:

NEVAH!!!

StorminNorman
01-11-2009, 05:27 PM
Not you, Norm :csad:

I want to see the top four seeds in the playoffs go.

Matt
01-11-2009, 05:36 PM
Heath Miller is the most underrated tight end in the NFL. Great receiver, great blocker. He is the whole package.

Matt
01-11-2009, 05:36 PM
Big Ben to Heath Miller! TOUCH DOWN!!!!!!!! :up:

Alex The Great
01-11-2009, 05:38 PM
NEVAH!!!
I can barely read the text in your avvy :o

*Puts on glasses*

I Kid You Not, Jamie Lyn Spears is going to have twins?

woah

*goes to the Doctor*

SuperJediHero
01-11-2009, 05:39 PM
Steelers know how to Grind time!!!

The Game
01-11-2009, 05:41 PM
Chargers are dumb, that midget dude puts them in good position, then they turn it over

Bunker
01-11-2009, 05:42 PM
:facepalm

SuperJediHero
01-11-2009, 05:42 PM
Wow

Kaleb
01-11-2009, 05:49 PM
Go home chargers , you have no business here :o

Hunter Rider
01-11-2009, 05:51 PM
The Steelers are to strong.

The Game
01-11-2009, 05:53 PM
This is just comdey now

Matt
01-11-2009, 05:57 PM
Woo! There is less than one minute left in this quarter and San Diego's time of possession is 17 seconds with one offensive play. Great third quarter by the Steelers. If I'm Baltimore, I am very afraid right now.

Kaleb
01-11-2009, 05:57 PM
I expect the Steelers to rest their starters in the 4th qrt.

Dark Donnie
01-11-2009, 05:58 PM
Chargers gave this game to Pittsburgh....to many mistakes

SuperJediHero
01-11-2009, 05:59 PM
Go for it, or FG??

Venom'sDad
01-11-2009, 06:00 PM
Pittsburgh has to go for it; but if they don't make it, they are going to lose.

Matt
01-11-2009, 06:00 PM
San Diego's time of possession in the 3rd quarter, 17 seconds with only one play. That's gotta be a record for least possession time in a quarter. At least in the play-offs.

Still, Pittsburgh's gotta try for this. 4th and inches. A field goal does them no good with an 11 point lead. Its a two touch down game regardless.

Bunker
01-11-2009, 06:00 PM
Chargers gave this game to Pittsburgh....to many mistakes

It seems like a common theme this weekend.

Matt
01-11-2009, 06:02 PM
Chargers gave this game to Pittsburgh....to many mistakes

Steelers are forcing the mistakes. Don't sell the Steelers short. That last two minutes of the 2nd quarter really fired them up and they came out strong in the third quarter. Both sides of the ball played like beasts.

Anyhow, challenge this. He was in there.

SuperJediHero
01-11-2009, 06:03 PM
Can't they run to the right?

Holiday
01-11-2009, 06:04 PM
Great play to get out of the end zone.

Matt
01-11-2009, 06:09 PM
Great play to get them back in :oldrazz:

SuperJediHero
01-11-2009, 06:09 PM
You know, I am SURPRISED Chargers Defense is even this good!

They should run to the right earlier, it seemed OPEN.


But, nevermind all that, TD Steelers!!!

Matt
01-11-2009, 06:11 PM
Pass interference! Ball on the one! Get it in this time!

Matt
01-11-2009, 06:12 PM
TOUCH DOWN! THAT'S GAME! Three possession game (maybe even three touchdown if San Diego can't make the two point conversion). That's game! AFC Championship! Here we come!

BlackLantern
01-11-2009, 06:12 PM
and that is that.....pittsburgh is just too physical for SD, and i've never felt SD can play from behind

The Game
01-11-2009, 06:13 PM
I can't wait till the Ravens bird brain Hines Ward next week, I can't stand that guy

SuperJediHero
01-11-2009, 06:14 PM
Now Steelers have a Commanding lead, they will just Run out the time!!!

FaT_tONle
01-11-2009, 06:14 PM
I have never seen a team get as many breaks as the Steelers have this season... I think it will come apart for them next week in the championship game... I can see it right now... Ravens 24 Steelers 6.

Pittsburgh has to go for it; but if they don't make it, they are going to lose.

:huh:

BlackLantern
01-11-2009, 06:14 PM
Pittsburgh/Baltimore is going to be serious punch you in the face game.....

Matt
01-11-2009, 06:15 PM
I can't wait till the Ravens bird brain Hines Ward next week, I can't stand that guy

How can anyone dislike Hines Ward? The man is a class act.

Venom'sDad
01-11-2009, 06:15 PM
I have never seen a team get as many breaks as the Steelers have this season...

You must have not seen many Colts game of the years....eh

FaT_tONle
01-11-2009, 06:16 PM
How can anyone dislike Hines Ward? The man is a class act.

He's a dirty player... Steelers are a dirty team... Ravens will take them out next week. Drink it up for a week... then collapse in the Championship like they always do at home.

You must have not seen many Colts game of the years....eh

I saw some playoff game a few weeks back... chippy calls costed them their season.

The Game
01-11-2009, 06:17 PM
How can anyone dislike Hines Ward? The man is a class act.

Now I am not saying he is a super villian (see Ravens and Bengals) but he annoys me, the little cheap things he does

Hunter Rider
01-11-2009, 06:18 PM
The Chargers are getting bulldozed right now.

Holiday
01-11-2009, 06:19 PM
As a Charger fan this game is depressing. I'm gonna go eat a tub of ice cream...

A BATHTUB OF ICE CREAM!!!11

Dark Donnie
01-11-2009, 06:20 PM
Steelers are forcing the mistakes. Don't sell the Steelers short. That last two minutes of the 2nd quarter really fired them up and they came out strong in the third quarter. Both sides of the ball played like beasts.

Anyhow, challenge this. He was in there.

There defense is good, but they are getting alot of breaks.....Eric Weddle alone gave them two scores with those two bone head plays.

BlackLantern
01-11-2009, 06:21 PM
but the Chargers lose and they get to go back to sunny and beautiful San Diego....I can think of worse ways to spend the off season

Cmill216
01-11-2009, 06:22 PM
I don't see the Ravens making enough plays offensively to go into Pittsburgh and beat the Steelers.

Kelly
01-11-2009, 06:22 PM
I have never seen a team get as many breaks as the Steelers have this season... I think it will come apart for them next week in the championship game... I can see it right now... Ravens 24 Steelers 6.



:huh:

He's a dirty player... Steelers are a dirty team... Ravens will take them out next week. Drink it up for a week... then collapse in the Championship like they always do at home.



I saw some playoff game a few weeks back... chippy calls costed them their season.


Now Tonie', you aren't trying to pick a fight now are you????? Because you know that's a no...no.......

Matt
01-11-2009, 06:22 PM
He's a dirty player... Steelers are a dirty team... Ravens will take them out next week. Drink it up for a week... then collapse in the Championship like they always do at home.



I saw some playoff game a few weeks back... chippy calls costed them their season.

Says a fan of the only team in recent years to actually be caught cheating (not to mention has a thread dedicated to how little he knows of football). :whatever: Those sour grapes still tasting good?

Now I am not saying he is a super villian (see Ravens and Bengals) but he annoys me, the little cheap things he does

Fair enough. I love me some Hines. The man is one of the all time greats at his position. I can't picture anyone disliking him :csad:

Hunter Rider
01-11-2009, 06:23 PM
Says a fan of the only team in recent years to actually be caught cheating (not to mention has a thread dedicated to how little he knows of football). :whatever: Those sour grapes still tasting good?


That was the Pats wasn't it ?

FaT_tONle
01-11-2009, 06:24 PM
If they don't recover an onside kick here the game is over...

BlackLantern
01-11-2009, 06:26 PM
the Steelers, from what I've seen, are a physical team and are a little more prone to trash talking then most....I wouldn't consider that dirty....and Mike Tomlin looks like a man who would beat your ass if he believes you are questioning his integrity

FaT_tONle
01-11-2009, 06:28 PM
Says a fan of the only team in recent years to actually be caught cheating (not to mention has a thread dedicated to how little he knows of football). :whatever: Those sour grapes still tasting good

Yay.... I am a Pat fan because Matt says so... :whatever:

Dr. Evil
01-11-2009, 06:30 PM
the Steelers, from what I've seen, are a physical team and are a little more prone to trash talking then most....I wouldn't consider that dirty....and Mike Tomlin looks like a man who would beat your ass if he believes you are questioning his integrity

At least Tomlin doesn't look like a retarded monkey, like Wade Phillips usually is.

BlackLantern
01-11-2009, 06:30 PM
i've always thought Tonie was a Dallas fan, which to me, means I really don't pay any attention to what he says....

Matt
01-11-2009, 06:31 PM
That was the Pats wasn't it ?

That is correct, sir.

the Steelers, from what I've seen, are a physical team and are a little more prone to trash talking then most....I wouldn't consider that dirty....and Mike Tomlin looks like a man who would beat your ass if he believes you are questioning his integrity

Agreed. They simply play physical football. Its not playing dirty. Its playing tough. I'd rather have a team that is tough than a bunch of pussy.....cats like New England, Miami, or Indy.

Yay.... I am a Pat fan because Matt says so... :whatever:

I figured it was because you've spent 3 weeks crying over their lack of play-offs.

Dr. Evil
01-11-2009, 06:32 PM
I'm a Dallas fan too, but at least I acknowledge the fact that Wade Phillips is a retard.

Sadly, though, it's back to rooting for the Detroit Lions of Baseball, The Texas Rangers for me..........sigh.

Matt
01-11-2009, 06:32 PM
i've always thought Tonie was a Dallas fan, which to me, means I really don't pay any attention to what he says....


That's right! He's a Dallas fan! My mistake. Even funnier. A man who is a fan of a team with some of the whiniest, dirtiest players in NFL history complaining about what is always a united team. :lmao:

FaT_tONle
01-11-2009, 06:33 PM
I figured it was because you've spent 3 weeks crying over their lack of play-offs.

Yes... one of the Patiot fans on these boards hacked into my account and started crying about the Pats not being in it... :huh:

BlackLantern
01-11-2009, 06:34 PM
I'm a Dallas fan too, but at least I acknowledge the fact that Wade Phillips is a retard.

Sadly, though, it's back to rooting for the Detroit Lions of Baseball, The Texas Rangers for me..........sigh.

Wade always looks like an old man who doesn't know where his pants are....and wants a sandwich....

Hunter Rider
01-11-2009, 06:35 PM
That is correct, sir.

I figured it was because you've spent 3 weeks crying over their lack of play-offs.

I see it's been mentioned that Tonie is a Cowboys fan, it was Excel that was complaining about the Play off system when the Pats bit the dust.

Matt
01-11-2009, 06:35 PM
Yes... one of the Patiot fans on these boards hacked into my account and started crying about the Pats not being in it... :huh:

Cowboys, Patriots...losers are losers, its easy to mix them up. Especially when you have learned to mentally block out the idiot man-child making the outrageous claims.

Bond
01-11-2009, 06:35 PM
I know the Cowboys are ****ed in almost every area, but I can't ever stay mad at them for too long. I missed them today. :csad:

Matt
01-11-2009, 06:36 PM
I see it's been mentioned that Tonie is a Cowboys fan, it was Excel that was complaining about the Play off system when the Pats bit the dust.

Yeah, I got them mixed up.

Never the less, TOUCH DOWN STEELERS!

Hunter Rider
01-11-2009, 06:36 PM
Willie Parker just pulled the plug on the Chargers.

Mister J
01-11-2009, 06:36 PM
Fast Willie appears to be back.

Holiday
01-11-2009, 06:37 PM
Well it's over. Good gosh... if I was old enough I'd be headed to a bar right now to drown my sorrows.

Dr. Evil
01-11-2009, 06:37 PM
Pittsburgh won't score that many points next week, with a stingy Ravens Defense.

Kelly
01-11-2009, 06:37 PM
i've always thought Tonie was a Dallas fan, which to me, means I really don't pay any attention to what he says....





:cmad:

Matt
01-11-2009, 06:38 PM
Willie Parker just pulled the plug on the Chargers.


That he did. Fast Willie is back!

BlackLantern
01-11-2009, 06:38 PM
if you cheer against Kurt Warner, does that mean you hate Jesus?? just curious....I'm cheering for the Cards anyway because my brain will not physically allow me to cheer for Philadelphia....

FaT_tONle
01-11-2009, 06:39 PM
Cowboys, Patriots...losers are losers, its easy to mix them up. Especially when you have learned to mentally block out the idiot man-child making the outrageous claims.

Who is making the outrageous claims? This is like the fifth time you have insinuated I am a Pat fan... your the guy who said Dick Lebeau would be a good head coach in this league... then you wanted to trade or release Big Ben a few weeks back... :hehe:... pretty laughable stuff...

Go Ravens... Go Cardinals... Lowest rated Superbowl ever.... that is my only wish...

Kelly
01-11-2009, 06:39 PM
Cowboys, Patriots...losers are losers, its easy to mix them up. Especially when you have learned to mentally block out the idiot man-child making the outrageous claims.




:nono:


and just to be clear, that is the middle finger you are seeing.....

Matt
01-11-2009, 06:40 PM
Pittsburgh won't score that many points next week, with a stingy Ravens Defense.

Neither will Baltimore. Its going to be a tough, hard fought game. Should be a lot of fun to watch. I personally am picking the Steelers. I just don't think Flacco is ready to beat this Pittsburgh defense.

Matt
01-11-2009, 06:40 PM
:nono:


and just to be clear, that is the middle finger you are seeing.....

:csad: He started it.

Double Down
01-11-2009, 06:40 PM
I see it's been mentioned that Tonie is a Cowboys fan, it was Excel that was complaining about the Play off system when the Pats bit the dust.

Tonie has been complaining about the playoff format, too.

Dr. Evil
01-11-2009, 06:40 PM
I'll be surprised if Arizona doesn't give Whisenhunt a contract extension in the offseason.

Dr. Evil
01-11-2009, 06:42 PM
Byron Leftwich

NewYorkSpider
01-11-2009, 06:42 PM
Tonie has been complaining about the playoff format, too.

He's just letting out his anger because the Eagles and Steelers are moving on.

Cmill216
01-11-2009, 06:43 PM
Cowboys, Patriots...losers are losers, its easy to mix them up.

Oh, Matthew.....

FaT_tONle
01-11-2009, 06:44 PM
Tonie has been complaining about the playoff format, too.

Your point??? I was making a general observation... not nitpicking on any one team or fans of one team.

Spiderine
01-11-2009, 06:44 PM
Hard to beat a team 3 times in one season. Those playoff games between divisional rivals are dangerous for the team that went 2-0 in the season matchup however I just feel like Flacco will eventually fall "flacc" on his face.

Dr. Evil
01-11-2009, 06:45 PM
Is Charlie Batch still with the Steelers?

Double Down
01-11-2009, 06:45 PM
He's just letting out his anger because the Eagles and Steelers are moving on.

All four of the teams still remaining in the playoffs beat the Cowboys this year.

Spiderine
01-11-2009, 06:45 PM
What exactly is wrong with the current playoff format?

Double Down
01-11-2009, 06:46 PM
Is Charlie Batch still with the Steelers?

Injured reserve

Spiderine
01-11-2009, 06:46 PM
Is Charlie Batch still with the Steelers?
No.

Dr. Evil
01-11-2009, 06:47 PM
I'm going with an all Pennsylvania Super Bowl, as much as I don't like it.

Venom'sDad
01-11-2009, 06:47 PM
I'm getting the impression that the League(NFL) is setting up a Cival War for the SuperBowl, by pitting Eastern Pennsylvania vs Western Pennsylvania... with the loser succeeding from the state. ;)

FaT_tONle
01-11-2009, 06:47 PM
All four of the teams still remaining in the playoffs beat the Cowboys this year.

I am rooting for Baltimore because that will make us look good. I hope that is the point you are making... of course I want the Eagles to choke next week... but we will look even better if they lose in the Superbowl to the Ravens.

Matt
01-11-2009, 06:48 PM
Is Charlie Batch still with the Steelers?

Yep, but he's on the IR.

vindrow
01-11-2009, 06:48 PM
Steelers are a moving on, baby!!!!:woot::woot::woot:

Addendum
01-11-2009, 06:49 PM
What exactly is wrong with the current playoff format?

Not a damn thing

Matt
01-11-2009, 06:49 PM
I am rooting for Baltimore because that will make us look good. I hope that is the point you are making... of course I want the Eagles to choke next week... but we will look even better if they lose in the Superbowl to the Ravens.

No it won't. Dallas will still look like the team that couldn't get it done when it counted and didn't deserve the play-offs. No other team's loss will make them look any better.

Dr. Evil
01-11-2009, 06:50 PM
I'll probably watch the Super Bowl mainly for the commercials.

Interested in seeing if GI Joe will suck or if it will kick ass. Same for Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen.

Matt
01-11-2009, 06:50 PM
Steelers are a moving on, baby!!!!:woot::woot::woot:

:woot: Here we go!

FaT_tONle
01-11-2009, 06:50 PM
No it won't. Dallas will still look like the team that couldn't get it done when it counted and didn't deserve the play-offs. No other team's loss will make them look any better.

Okay... your opinion is different than mine... who woulda thunk it??? :cwink:

Dr. Evil
01-11-2009, 06:51 PM
Not a Steelers fan, but I like James Harrison. That guy is a stud.

vindrow
01-11-2009, 06:52 PM
Time to pluck and put those dirty Ratbirds in their place for the 3rd time this year:woot:

Kelly
01-11-2009, 06:56 PM
Well, Tonie' as a 3+ decade fan of the Cowboys......he's right......nothing will make them look better this season, especially not the Ravens...

FaT_tONle
01-11-2009, 06:57 PM
Ima go watch the Globes... I'll see you peeps next week...

http://www.nflfootballstadiums.com/images/Arizona-Cardinals-Logo.gifhttp://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u273/giomol/539-Ravens.jpg

Preach it brothas...

Alex The Great
01-11-2009, 06:58 PM
Well, the Chargers made effort at the end, but it was too late. Congratz to the Steelers, And Matt can sit on it

NewYorkSpider
01-11-2009, 06:59 PM
2008 NFL Playoff Pool Standings:


Users @ 7-1
Metropolis Man
Kaleb

Users @ 6-2
Double Down

Users @ 5-3
Matt
Mister J
gogetter0587
Thor Odinson

Users @ 4-4
FaT_tONle
Holiday
ih8nyy
NewYorkSpider
Addendum
Bond
Panophobia
StorminNorman Returns
Dark Donnie
The Last Son
Venom'sDad

Users @ 3-5
fu manchu
Excel
Raiden

Users @ 2-6
BunkerXXI
Showtime
Alex The Great

Users @ 1-7
Erzengel
CConn

SuperJediHero
01-11-2009, 07:00 PM
BYE BYE 8-8 Team!!!

Dr. Evil
01-11-2009, 07:01 PM
Ima go watch the Globes... I'll see you peeps next week...

http://www.nflfootballstadiums.com/images/Arizona-Cardinals-Logo.gifhttp://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u273/giomol/539-Ravens.jpg

Preach it brothas...

No 24?

24 > Golden Globes

Alex The Great
01-11-2009, 07:02 PM
2008 NFL Playoff Pool Standings:


Users @ 7-1
Metropolis Man
Kaleb

Users @ 6-2
Double Down

Users @ 5-3
Matt
Mister J
gogetter0587
Thor Odinson

Users @ 4-4
FaT_tONle
Holiday
ih8nyy
NewYorkSpider
Addendum
Bond
Panophobia
StorminNorman Returns
Dark Donnie
The Last Son

Users @ 3-5
fu manchu
Excel
Raiden

Users @ 2-6
BunkerXXI
Showtime
Alex The Great

Users @ 1-7
Erzengel
CConn
:(

BYE BYE 8-8 Team!!!
*sigh*

FaT_tONle
01-11-2009, 07:03 PM
No 24?

24 > Golden Globes

My hate for Fox is that much... nah I just don't do TV shows...

Alex The Great
01-11-2009, 07:05 PM
My hate for Fox is that much... nah I just don't do TV shows...
What kind of Man are you? :cmad:

Double Down
01-11-2009, 07:05 PM
2008 NFL Playoff Pool Standings:


Users @ 7-1
Metropolis Man
Kaleb

Users @ 6-2
Double Down

Users @ 5-3
Matt
Mister J
gogetter0587
Thor Odinson

Users @ 4-4
FaT_tONle
Holiday
ih8nyy
NewYorkSpider
Addendum
Bond
Panophobia
StorminNorman Returns
Dark Donnie
The Last Son

Users @ 3-5
fu manchu
Excel
Raiden

Users @ 2-6
BunkerXXI
Showtime
Alex The Great

Users @ 1-7
Erzengel
CConn

Thanks for putting this together. You are doing a great job of getting everything done and you are doing it very quickly.

ih8nyy
01-11-2009, 07:07 PM
Thanks for putting this together. You are doing a great job of getting everything done and you are doing it very quickly.

2nd.
:up:

Double Down
01-11-2009, 07:10 PM
Well it's over. Good gosh... if I was old enough I'd be headed to a bar right now to drown my sorrows.


Don't party with this dude:


Cowboys OLB Anthony Spencer was arrested in Indiana early Sunday for disorderly conduct and public intoxication at Have a Nice Day Cafe.

Spencer is also accused of trying to bribe bar workers to keep the club open past 3AM along with his agent, Matthew Millhouse. It's unclear if Millhouse was arrested too. Spencer allegedly "threw punches at bouncers, pounded on exit doors, and shouted at bar staff." He was Dallas' first-round pick in '07.


http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Home_NFL.aspx

Calvin
01-11-2009, 07:19 PM
Loved the way Ben and Willie looked, and I'll take the home game even though I have to see the Ravens again.

The Big Ben punt was awesome.

Double Down
01-11-2009, 07:22 PM
Sunday's NFC championship game between Arizona and Philadelphia at University of Phoenix Stadium sold out within six minutes after tickets went on sale at 3 p.m. today, according to the Cardinals.
“Ticket demand was high even before the Eagles-Giants game started,” said Ron Minegar, the team’s executive vice president/chief operating officer. “Once that outcome was decided and it was certain that we were hosting the NFC championship game, the demand grew to enormous proportions.”
Because of the flexibility of University of Phoenix Stadium, the team was able to add seats and use a configuration similar to that of last year’s Super Bowl that takes the total seating capacity over 70,000.
Tickets were available on-line and by phone through Ticketmaster as well as in person at the Cardinals' training facility in Tempe and the University of Phoenix Stadium box office. Tickets were available to Arizona residents only.

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/133983

ih8nyy
01-11-2009, 07:29 PM
The Big Ben punt was awesome.

Taken right out of Belichicks play book.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg277/cpoconnor/evilbill.jpg

ih8nyy
01-11-2009, 07:30 PM
Sunday's NFC championship game between Arizona and Philadelphia at University of Phoenix Stadium sold out within six minutes after tickets went on sale at 3 p.m. today, according to the Cardinals.
“Ticket demand was high even before the Eagles-Giants game started,” said Ron Minegar, the team’s executive vice president/chief operating officer. “Once that outcome was decided and it was certain that we were hosting the NFC championship game, the demand grew to enormous proportions.”
Because of the flexibility of University of Phoenix Stadium, the team was able to add seats and use a configuration similar to that of last year’s Super Bowl that takes the total seating capacity over 70,000.
Tickets were available on-line and by phone through Ticketmaster as well as in person at the Cardinals' training facility in Tempe and the University of Phoenix Stadium box office. Tickets were available to Arizona residents only.

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/133983

I would certainly hope so. Its the friggin NFC Championship Game.

The Game
01-11-2009, 07:32 PM
The Cardinals play in the University of Phoenix Stadium, a university that doesn't exist (offering online classes does not make one a university)

Alex The Great
01-11-2009, 07:32 PM
You gotta feel for Cardinal fans, so many years of **** and this is there year. There the Chicago Cubs of the NFL

ih8nyy
01-11-2009, 07:35 PM
The Cardinals play in the University of Phoenix Stadium, a university that doesn't exist (offering online classes does not make one a university)

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg277/cpoconnor/smilies/aheathosnap.png

I swear to God I saw someone with one of those static window stickers on their car that said "University of Pheonix". I almost spilled my coffee on my lap. I was quite amused by it.

Kelly
01-11-2009, 07:40 PM
The Cardinals play in the University of Phoenix Stadium, a university that doesn't exist (offering online classes does not make one a university)

Well according to a hell of alot of people with degrees, it does.

The Game
01-11-2009, 07:41 PM
Well according to a hell of alot of people with degrees, it does.

No it does not

Double Down
01-11-2009, 07:42 PM
The Cardinals play in the University of Phoenix Stadium, a university that doesn't exist (offering online classes does not make one a university)

The University of Phoenix football team has never lost. :cmad:

NewYorkSpider
01-11-2009, 07:46 PM
Thanks for putting this together. You are doing a great job of getting everything done and you are doing it very quickly.

2nd.
:up:

Thanks. I almost had to give someone all the picks this weekend so they could post them. I had the stomach bug Friday and Saturday. :csad: It felt like I got hit by a truck. I could hardly move. Thankfully it was only for 24 hours.

Kelly
01-11-2009, 07:51 PM
No it does not

Well, you indeed have a right to your opinion....


:word:

Alex The Great
01-11-2009, 08:09 PM
Well, you indeed have a right to your opinion....


:word:
Thank you John :heart::hehe:

StorminNorman
01-11-2009, 08:15 PM
After watching the four games this weekend - the most impressive team IMO is Arizona.

The Game
01-11-2009, 08:29 PM
Well, you indeed have a right to your opinion....


:word:

It is a fact :cmad: :woot: :oldrazz:

Kelly
01-11-2009, 08:31 PM
It is a fact :cmad: :woot: :oldrazz:


Well, ok then....:cwink:

Alex The Great
01-11-2009, 08:33 PM
After watching the four games this weekend - the most impressive team IMO is Arizona.
agreed.

Cmill216
01-11-2009, 08:35 PM
Denver:
Choice Head Coach - Josh McDaniels

McDaniels hybrid spread offense was killer in 2007, setting records aplenty with Brady, Moss, & Welker. In 2008, he transformed Matt Cassell from perennial benchwarmer to one of the league's hottest young QBs.

McDaniels would translate those same principals to a Denver offense already built to run his system: a young gunslinger in Cutler, a terrific trio at wideout with Marshall/Royal/Stokely, and a solid offensive line.

The focus from there would be stabilizing the running situation, and then patching up the defense through the draft. Building a young defensive unit to compliment the dynamic young offensive unit, all led by a young head coach, would make the Broncos a force in the AFC for years to come.


Bump for relevance.

Matt
01-11-2009, 09:02 PM
So is a 17 second time of possession in a whole quarter some kind of record?

Immortalfire
01-11-2009, 09:15 PM
What exactly is wrong with the current playoff format?

It didn't let the Patriots in.


:huh: :whatever:


Neither will Baltimore. Its going to be a tough, hard fought game. Should be a lot of fun to watch. I personally am picking the Steelers. I just don't think Flacco is ready to beat this Pittsburgh defense.
6-3 final score.

Alex The Great
01-11-2009, 09:19 PM
6-3 final score.
Heh, most likely

Immortalfire
01-11-2009, 09:19 PM
How can anyone dislike Hines Ward? The man is a class act.

He's a Georgia Dawg :yay:

Shemtov
01-11-2009, 09:19 PM
so if pittsburgh beats Baltimmore and Philly beats Arizona, will it be the Pennsylvania bowl?

Kelly
01-11-2009, 09:21 PM
so if pittsburgh beats Baltimmore and Philly beats Arizona, will it be the Pennsylvania bowl?



Yes, and an eyesore on all of the world.....well except for the commercial...

Alex The Great
01-11-2009, 09:22 PM
I Think so


And if the Cards and Ravens win it's going to be the Battle Of The Birds :hehe:

Immortalfire
01-11-2009, 09:24 PM
Yes, and an eyesore on all of the world.....well except for the commercial...

Next time someone mentions to me that they watch the Super Bowl for the freakin commercials, they're getting a kick in the throat. :cmad:

Shemtov
01-11-2009, 09:25 PM
I Think so


And if the Cards and Ravens win it's going to be the Battle Of The Birds :hehe:
or if the ravens and the Eagles win.
but if its Pittsburgh vs. Arizona it Won't have a label beyond Super Bowl....What Number is it? i forgot.

Immortalfire
01-11-2009, 09:25 PM
I Think so


And if the Cards and Ravens win it's going to be the Battle Of The Birds :hehe:

Did you come up with that all by yourself? :eek:

NewYorkSpider
01-11-2009, 09:31 PM
Does anyone find it funny that Bruce Springsteen is singing at the Super Bowl, and one of his songs is called "Streets of Philadelphia"?

Alex The Great
01-11-2009, 09:32 PM
Vince Helped Me :hehe:

Alex The Great
01-11-2009, 09:36 PM
Does anyone find it funny that Bruce Springsteen is singing at the Super Bowl, and one of his songs is called "Streets of Philadelphia"?
Conspiracy

Double Down
01-11-2009, 09:40 PM
So is a 17 second time of possession in a whole quarter some kind of record?

I'm not sure in the pros, but I do remember a game from two years ago when Auburn had the ball for the entire third quarter against South Carolina.

Immortalfire
01-11-2009, 09:47 PM
Vince Helped Me :hehe:

:up:

Cmill216
01-11-2009, 09:48 PM
Does anyone find it funny that Bruce Springsteen is singing at the Super Bowl, and one of his songs is called "Streets of Philadelphia"?

Now all we need is for The Eagles to do the National Anthem and I'd be calling up Mulder and Scully.

vindrow
01-11-2009, 09:56 PM
or if the ravens and the Eagles win.
but if its Pittsburgh vs. Arizona it Won't have a label beyond Super Bowl....What Number is it? i forgot.



Or if the if it is Ravens/Eagles it will be the battle of the #6 seeds..I believe that would be the first time that 2 #6 seeds ever faced each other in the SB.

Kelly
01-11-2009, 10:05 PM
Or, two crappy teams?

That got lucky in the end.....

NewYorkSpider
01-11-2009, 10:12 PM
Kurt Warner could become the 10th QB in NFL history to have 3 or more Super Bowl starts. All those QB's with the exception of Tom Brady are in the Hall of Fame.

Dark Donnie
01-11-2009, 10:21 PM
Or, two crappy teams?

That got lucky in the end.....
How exactly did The Ravens or Eagles get lucky?

CConn
01-11-2009, 10:21 PM
****ing upsets.

I'm like 2-437 with my picks. :down

2furious4U
01-11-2009, 10:30 PM
I'm kinda pissed that the Giants didnt win.... but they really didnt deserve to win... they were having a really rough game

Cmill216
01-11-2009, 10:36 PM
What's interesting is that the Eagles could legitimately win the Super Bowl, and the main reason they got into the playoffs was because several teams managed to suck more than they did down the stretch.

CELTICPRED
01-11-2009, 10:36 PM
How exactly did The Ravens get lucky?

I'd call them not getting penalized for delay of game pretty lucky, but I was rooting for the Ravens anyway, so it's all good.

2furious4U
01-11-2009, 10:43 PM
What's interesting is that the Eagles could legitimately win the Super Bowl, and the main reason they got into the playoffs was because several teams managed to suck more than they did down the stretch.

Thats so true... they only got in by the skin of their a$$

CELTICPRED
01-11-2009, 10:46 PM
What/when did this happen during the Eagles/Giants game, I must have been in the bathroom:

http://i43.tinypic.com/2vs0mdf.jpg

Spiderine
01-11-2009, 10:48 PM
It didn't let the Patriots in.


:huh: :whatever:




And that stresses the importance of winning the division. Its an extra incentive to make the playoffs. SD played in a crappy division and came out the victor even with an 8-8 record while New England lost out to Miami. New England also lost to those same 8-8 Chargers.

Kelly
01-11-2009, 10:53 PM
What/when did this happen during the Eagles/Giants game, I must have been in the bathroom:

http://i43.tinypic.com/2vs0mdf.jpg
Why is it when McNabb tries to look cool, he just looks stupid. Another example, the dance last week.

Marx
01-11-2009, 10:53 PM
Frickin' Steelers! :cmad:

Marx
01-11-2009, 10:54 PM
Why is it when McNabb tries to look cool, he just looks stupid. Another example, the dance last week.

If it walks like a duck...and quacks like a duck...then...

2furious4U
01-11-2009, 10:56 PM
Yeah that wasn't called for... and he took a penalty for it.....

Kelly
01-11-2009, 10:57 PM
If it walks like a duck...and quacks like a duck...then...


It's an eagle????

Spiderine
01-11-2009, 10:57 PM
What's interesting is that the Eagles could legitimately win the Super Bowl, and the main reason they got into the playoffs was because several teams managed to suck more than they did down the stretch.
That's parody for ya.

Marx
01-11-2009, 10:58 PM
It's an eagle????

Yep. :oldrazz:

Dark Donnie
01-11-2009, 11:00 PM
What's interesting is that the Eagles could legitimately win the Super Bowl, and the main reason they got into the playoffs was because several teams managed to suck more than they did down the stretch.

All that matters is what you do once you get into the playoffs. It's not there fault teams like Tampa and Dallas choked.

Why is it when McNabb tries to look cool, he just looks stupid. Another example, the dance last week.
He's pretty corny, even Eagles fans recognize that...however you can't dispute his track record. One of only 5 QB's to play in 5 Conference Championship games. He comes through in these types of games unlike that guy in Dallas.

Spiderine
01-11-2009, 11:03 PM
All that matters is what you do once you get into the playoffs. It's not there fault teams like Tampa and Dallas choked.
Exactly. You can put Chicago in there as well.

Cmill216
01-11-2009, 11:03 PM
All that matters is what you do once you get into the playoffs. It's not there fault teams like Tampa and Dallas choked.

I wasn't discrediting them at all. I was just saying how fascinating it is that this team could conceivably win the entire thing and would not have even had that opportunity to do so had a team like Chicago or Tampa made an extra play or two in Week 17.

Dr. Evil
01-11-2009, 11:04 PM
Denver should have went with a defensive coach then McDaniels as defense was a huge problem for them last year. Hiring Josh McDaniels means that there is going to have to be a new offense in place and it could end up being a major learning curve for Jay Cutler if the offenses are different. He's going to want a new staff completely and since he was hired before the GM, he will probably end up with personnel power and a say in football operations. Also, former New England assistant coaches have had a mediocre track record as head coaches in the NFL and in college. Romeo Crennel just got fired and replaced by Eric Mangini, who's Jets collapsed down the stretch and then there is Charlie Weiss, who needs to win at least 9 games for Notre Dame in 2009 to keep his job.

Denver should have went with Leslie Frazier or Steve Spagnolo.

CConn
01-11-2009, 11:04 PM
I wasn't discrediting them at all. I was just saying how fascinating it is that this team could conceivably win the entire thing and would not have even had that opportunity to do so had a team like Chicago or Tampa made an extra play or two in Week 17.
It goes to show how much parody there is right now.

And how pretty much everything in the NFL today revolves around getting on a roll late in the season.

2furious4U
01-11-2009, 11:05 PM
Dallas choked the whole year through ......

Dark Donnie
01-11-2009, 11:09 PM
I wasn't discrediting them at all. I was just saying how fascinating it is that this team could conceivably win the entire thing and would not have even had that opportunity to do so had a team like Chicago or Tampa made an extra play or two in Week 17.

Your right....they actually just said they had a 10% chance of making the playoffs going into week 17. 10%. They definitely got plenty of help to get in.

Marx
01-11-2009, 11:12 PM
What's interesting is that the Eagles could legitimately win the Super Bowl, and the main reason they got into the playoffs was because several teams managed to suck more than they did down the stretch.

All I know is that I am getting less and less interested in the Super Bowl with each playoff game. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon13.gif

Cmill216
01-11-2009, 11:12 PM
It's the nature of the one-and-done playoff system. Anything really can happen, no matter what you did in the regular season. Quite the opposite for, say, the NBA.

Barring injury, the most talented team in the NBA is going to win the entire thing 95% of the time. It's incredibly difficult to beat a team 4 times in 7 games unless you really are truly superior to that team. But in the NFL, if you come in with any kind of momentum or rhythm, a play here and a play there and you can knock off the defending champs or an 18-0 juggernaut.

Spiderine
01-11-2009, 11:13 PM
Yeah they got help but they also took care of business themselves.

2furious4U
01-11-2009, 11:15 PM
Thats how the Giants won it last year... The Patriots were 16 - 0 through the regular season.... Giants came in and beat them.... so it doesn't really matter how good you are in the regular season... just how good you can come out in the playoffs

Spiderine
01-11-2009, 11:15 PM
It's the nature of the one-and-done playoff system. Anything really can happen, no matter what you did in the regular season. Quite the opposite for, say, the NBA.

Barring injury, the most talented team in the NBA is going to win the entire thing 95% of the time. It's incredibly difficult to beat a team 4 times in 7 games unless you really are truly superior to that team. But in the NFL, if you come in with any kind of momentum or rhythm, a play here and a play there and you can knock off the defending champs or an 18-0 juggernaut.
Which begs the question, does the bye hurt some teams more than it helps? Especially when you are talking about momentum.

Cmill216
01-11-2009, 11:20 PM
Which begs the question, does the bye hurt some teams more than it helps? Especially when you are talking about momentum.

Momentum should be irrelevant, though. If you were good enough to get a top seed and a bye, you should be good enough to beat just about anyone who comes into your house.

I can understand what happened to Tennessee and New York. They got beat by aggressive defensive teams in relatively tight games. But there's no excuse for a team as complete as Carolina to get waxed the way they did. Especially when the Cardinals were missing one of their two best offensive weapons.

Go Web Go!
01-11-2009, 11:21 PM
Hooray for upsets. Call me crazy, but I want to Cardinals to take it. And please...may we be spared from an all Pennsylvania SB.

Marx
01-11-2009, 11:29 PM
Hooray for upsets. Call me crazy, but I want to Cardinals to take it. And please...may we be spared from an all Pennsylvania SB.

At this point, the Cards are the only team I even remotely care about.

That-Guy
01-11-2009, 11:40 PM
I'm kind of torn here. I want the Steelers to go all the way, obviously. And the prospect of beating Baltimore (again) next week and Philly in the SB is something that I could salivate over.

BUT... anything can happen. And though I may not like Philly and Baltimore, I won't deny that they are good teams and either of those games could go either way. And personally, if my team makes it to the Super Bowl and loses, I'd rather see them lose to a team like Arizona where there isn't this annoying rivalry like there is between Pittsburgh and Philly.

So at this point; I'm not going to speculate and just hope for the best next week. The Steelers can beat the Ravens... that doesn't mean that they definitely WILL, but they can. So if they play like they did in the two previous matchups (or better... I certainly think that they looked better in today's game than they have in months) then they should be able to pull it off. As for Philly, well, yeah, they beat Pit in the regular season, but if today's showing was any indication, it looks like Pit's O-Line finally solved their pass protection problem so things might go differently next time around.

BlackLantern
01-11-2009, 11:42 PM
I'll cheer for any team but Philly....

2furious4U
01-11-2009, 11:46 PM
yeah me too

NewYorkSpider
01-11-2009, 11:48 PM
I want to see Joe Flacco and John Harbaugh win it in their first year.

CELTICPRED
01-11-2009, 11:51 PM
I really like that Flacco guy a lot too. He's made some great plays this year.

Matt
01-11-2009, 11:51 PM
I'm kind of torn here. I want the Steelers to go all the way, obviously. And the prospect of beating Baltimore (again) next week and Philly in the SB is something that I could salivate over.

BUT... anything can happen. And though I may not like Philly and Baltimore, I won't deny that they are good teams and either of those games could go either way. And personally, if my team makes it to the Super Bowl and loses, I'd rather see them lose to a team like Arizona where there isn't this annoying rivalry like there is between Pittsburgh and Philly.

So at this point; I'm not going to speculate and just hope for the best next week. The Steelers can beat the Ravens... that doesn't mean that they definitely WILL, but they can. So if they play like they did in the two previous matchups (or better... I certainly think that they looked better in today's game than they have in months) then they should be able to pull it off. As for Philly, well, yeah, they beat Pit in the regular season, but if today's showing was any indication, it looks like Pit's O-Line finally solved their pass protection problem so things might go differently next time around.

At this point, if we have to lose, I want it to be to Arizona. Coach Whisenhunt is Steeler alumn and deserves his own ring, plus, I love their underdog story. Philly is a dirty team and deserves nothing, and Baltimore...well...I think if they beat us, I can deal. I won't like it, but I love watching a young player like Flacco. You can really see the future of the league in a player like that, and seeing a rookie QB win a Super Bowl would be fun.

Matt
01-11-2009, 11:54 PM
I want to see Joe Flacco and John Harbaugh win it in their first year.

Part of me wants to see a Whisenhunt/Harbaugh Super Bowl just because of how unceremoniously snubbed they were in the Coach of the Year race. They could say, "Ha ha! **** you AP! Look at our shiney AFC/NFC Championship rings! Start waiting until after the play-offs to give out your awards...*****es!" Warner could do the same in regards to the MVP. God I hate the AP selection process.

Dark Donnie
01-11-2009, 11:55 PM
At this point, if we have to lose, I want it to be to Arizona. Coach Whisenhunt is Steeler alumn and deserves his own ring, plus, I love their underdog story. Philly is a dirty team and deserves nothing, and Baltimore...well...I think if they beat us, I can deal. I won't like it, but I love watching a young player like Flacco. You can really see the future of the league in a player like that, and seeing a rookie QB win a Super Bowl would be fun.

Again how is Philly dirty?

Part of me wants to see a Whisenhunt/Harbaugh Super Bowl just because of how unceremoniously snubbed they were in the Coach of the Year race. They could say, "Ha ha! **** you AP! Look at our shiney AFC/NFC Championship rings! Start waiting until after the play-offs to give out your awards...*****es!" Warner could do the same in regards to the MVP. God I hate the AP selection process.

It's tough to argue Wisenhunt over either choice. If the vote took place after the playoffs maybe, but based on the actual season Wisenhunt didn't deserve it.

Matt
01-11-2009, 11:59 PM
Again how is Philly dirty?

Philly and Reid have a long history of being dirty. I'm not going to debate it with you Donnie, as no matter what I say you will deny it as you are a Philly fan. But there are plenty examples of the dirty nature of the Philadelphia Eagles.

Marx
01-12-2009, 12:00 AM
I want to see Joe Flacco and John Harbaugh win it in their first year.

I wouldn't be opposed to that either.

Matt
01-12-2009, 12:02 AM
It's tough to argue Wisenhunt over either choice. If the vote took place after the playoffs maybe, but based on the actual season Wisenhunt didn't deserve it.

I disagree. Sure, they fell apart in December, but plenty of teams experience an end of the season burn out. The fact of the matter is, in two short seasons, Wis took the worst team in the history of the National Football League, and brought to the NFC Championship. Of course, as you said, if the vote took place after the playoffs, it may be different. I'd say my argument is more of one of why the AP ought to wait until at least championship weekend to vot on these awards.

Marx
01-12-2009, 12:03 AM
Part of me wants to see a Whisenhunt/Harbaugh Super Bowl just because of how unceremoniously snubbed they were in the Coach of the Year race. They could say, "Ha ha! **** you AP! Look at our shiney AFC/NFC Championship rings! Start waiting until after the play-offs to give out your awards...*****es!" Warner could do the same in regards to the MVP. God I hate the AP selection process.

Again how is Philly dirty?

Philly and Reid have a long history of being dirty. I'm not going to debate it with you Donnie, as no matter what I say you will deny it as you are a Philly fan. But there are plenty examples of the dirty nature of the Philadelphia Eagles.

Am I the only one amused by a Steeler's fan accusing the Philadelpia Eagles of playing dirty?

Pot meet kettle. Kettle meet pot. :funny:

NewYorkSpider
01-12-2009, 12:04 AM
Part of me wants to see a Whisenhunt/Harbaugh Super Bowl just because of how unceremoniously snubbed they were in the Coach of the Year race. They could say, "Ha ha! **** you AP! Look at our shiney AFC/NFC Championship rings! Start waiting until after the play-offs to give out your awards...*****es!" Warner could do the same in regards to the MVP. God I hate the AP selection process.

It's too bad that team records determine the outcome for awards. I honestly believe that Phillip Rivers deserved it more than Peyton Manning. I also believe that Ed Reed should've won defensive player of the year. The fact that he wasn't in the top 3 in voting was a complete joke.

Matt
01-12-2009, 12:05 AM
It's too bad that team records determine the outcome for awards. I honestly believe that Phillip Rivers deserved it more than Peyton Manning. I also believe that Ed Reed should've won defensive player of the year. The fact that he wasn't in the top 3 was a complete joke.

Hell, I'll take you one further. Ed Reed should've been league MVP. The AP's combined hard-on for the Manning family and prejuidice against defensive players is absurd.

Dark Donnie
01-12-2009, 12:06 AM
Philly and Reid have a long history of being dirty. I'm not going to debate it with you Donnie, as no matter what I say you will deny it as you are a Philly fan. But there are plenty examples of the dirty nature of the Philadelphia Eagles.

Hines Ward and Polamalu never do anything dirty either...I watch every game and I know for a fact this team isn't dirty. Calling a team dirty gives off the impression that there blatantly out there trying to hurt people each game and that is simply not the case.

I disagree. Sure, they fell apart in December, but plenty of teams experience an end of the season burn out. The fact of the matter is, in two short seasons, Wis took the worst team in the history of the National Football League, and brought to the NFC Championship. Of course, as you said, if the vote took place after the playoffs, it may be different. I'd say my argument is more of one of why the AP ought to wait until at least championship weekend to vot on these awards.

I'd be very happy if they changed the voting to include the playoffs...for both the MVP and Coach of the Year.

Hunter Rider
01-12-2009, 12:06 AM
Am I the only one amused by a Steeler's fan accusing the Philadelpia Eagles of playing dirty?

Pot meet kettle. Kettle meet pot. :funny:

Haha! :D From what ive seen both are physical "take no prisoners" teams, but neither are breaking any rules that i can tell or that the coms have mentioned.

Matt
01-12-2009, 12:07 AM
Am I the only one amused by a Steeler's fan accusing the Philadelpia Eagles of playing dirty?

Pot meet kettle. Kettle meet pot. :funny:

There's a difference between aggressive play and dirty play. There is nothing like the Bounty Bowl on the Steelers' records. You never see the Steelers getting in fights with other teams fans, disrespecting another team's trademark, etc. For such an aggressive team, the Steelers are incredibly disciplined. Do you know why? Because Knoll and Cowher have a long tradition of making sure that they are a team. There are very few selfish players on the Pittsburgh Steelers who will put their ego above the team by doing something like a late hit or taunting fans and getting penalties and that trend seems to be carrying over to Tomlin.

BlackLantern
01-12-2009, 12:10 AM
I think that happens because they are all scared of Tomlin....He probably walked into the locker room on his first day of work, hit Troy Polamaulu(sp?) with a chair and said "I'm the new head coach...any questions??"

NewYorkSpider
01-12-2009, 12:10 AM
Hell, I'll take you one further. Ed Reed should've been league MVP. The AP's combined hard-on for the Manning family and prejuidice against defensive players is absurd.

Ed Reed was actually 3rd in defensive player of the year voting. I must have read it wrong when it came out. I also agree with Reed being MVP. I was only implying that if a QB was to win the MVP, it should have been Rivers or Warner. I think if you take Ed Reed out of the Ravens lineup, they're not in the playoffs.

Cmill216
01-12-2009, 12:11 AM
MVP is so unbelievably subjective. I mean, can you really say that Peyton Manning was more valuable to his team than somebody like Rivers or Matt Ryan? Or if it really is most valuable to the league, how the heck was Peyton Manning valuable to the league this year? His team flew under the radar all year and beat a bunch of scrubs in the last month of the season to get into the playoffs.

If you want valuable to the league, go with Matt Ryan, who changed the entire outlook of a franchise.

Or....give it to Plaxico Burress's gun. That pistol completely altered the balance of power in the NFC.

Matt
01-12-2009, 12:12 AM
Hines Ward and Polamalu never do anything dirty either...I watch every game and I know for a fact this team isn't dirty. Calling a team dirty gives off the impression that there blatantly out there trying to hurt people each game and that is simply not the case.


Hurt players? No. Those days in the Eagles history are long gone. So perhaps dirty is the wrong word. I suppose...sleazy is a better word. Things like Donovan McNabb taunting the Giants side line, and after every play you see an Eagles player rush to the ball before the ref can get it and try to put it in a spot that favors them. Sure players on the other teams do it, but I've never seen a team as meticulous about it as the Eagles, almost as if it is a reflex that they are trained to do. Makes me wonder what Andy Reid teaches that team. Just little things like that bother me.


I'd be very happy if they changed the voting to include the playoffs...for both the MVP and Coach of the Year.

now there is something we can agree on. Hell, perhaps if they did include play-offs, Donovan McNabb would've gotten a deserved Comeback Player of the Year over the supremely overrated Chad Pennington (yes, I said it).

Dark Donnie
01-12-2009, 12:12 AM
There's a difference between aggressive play and dirty play. There is nothing like the Bounty Bowl on the Steelers' records. You never see the Steelers getting in fights with other teams fans, disrespecting another team's trademark, etc. For such an aggressive team, the Steelers are incredibly disciplined. Do you know why? Because Knoll and Cowher have a long tradition of making sure that they are a team. There are very few selfish players on the Pittsburgh Steelers who will put their ego above the team by doing something like a late hit or taunting fans and getting penalties and that trend seems to be carrying over to Tomlin.

The Bounty Bowl was almost 20 years ago with a completely different team/owner/coach. When has anyone on this team done anything like that? I can't remember any one on this team or staff getting in a fight with a fan of an opposing team either. The only time I remember the team getting in a fight with another team itself was that Atlanta game like 3 years ago, and that was sparked by DeAngelo Hall.

BlackLantern
01-12-2009, 12:14 AM
both Matt Ryan and Kurt Warner changed the culture and outlook of their respective teams....Warner took the same group of people that Leinart didn't do jack with, won the division, and now heading to the NFC title game....Ryan led a team that lost its new head coach and franchise QB within a month of each other

Matt
01-12-2009, 12:14 AM
I think that happens because they are all scared of Tomlin....He probably walked into the locker room on his first day of work, hit Troy Polamaulu(sp?) with a chair and said "I'm the new head coach...any questions??"

:lmao: I can see it. Tomlin is like the quiet little guy in any Asian kung-fu movie, who during the fight just hangs in the back until the perfect moment where he does something entirely bad ass to show that you don't want to **** with him.

Dark Donnie
01-12-2009, 12:16 AM
MVP is so unbelievably subjective. I mean, can you really say that Peyton Manning was more valuable to his team than somebody like Rivers or Matt Ryan? Or if it really is most valuable to the league, how the heck was Peyton Manning valuable to the league this year? His team flew under the radar all year and beat a bunch of scrubs in the last month of the season to get into the playoffs.

If you want valuable to the league, go with Matt Ryan, who changed the entire outlook of a franchise.

Or....give it to Plaxico Burress's gun. That pistol completely altered the balance of power in the NFC.

LMAO...before The Giants weren't even entertaining the idea of bringing him back and now:

Giants GM Jerry Reese acknowledged after Sunday's season-ending playoff loss that the team was considerably weaker without Plaxico Burress.
The Giants went 4-5 after losing Burress for the year in Week 13. "It's hard to replace that," Reese said. "The guy has a presence out there and when you lose that, teams play you differently." Asked if Plax could be let back in 2009, Reese said "If everything goes alright, yeah. Absolutely." Burress' first step will be avoiding prison time for illegal gun possession. Jan. 11 - 8:52 pm et
Source: Newark Star-Ledger

Matt
01-12-2009, 12:16 AM
The Bounty Bowl was almost 20 years ago with a completely different team/owner/coach. When has anyone on this team done anything like that? I can't remember any one on this team or staff getting in a fight with a fan of an opposing team either. The only time I remember the team getting in a fight with another team itself was that Atlanta game like 3 years ago, and that was sparked by DeAngelo Hall.

Which is why I concede sleazy would've been a better word choice.

Holiday
01-12-2009, 12:17 AM
Hurt players? No. Those days in the Eagles history are long gone. So perhaps dirty is the wrong word. I suppose...sleazy is a better word. Things like Donovan McNabb taunting the Giants side line, and after every play you see an Eagles player rush to the ball before the ref can get it and try to put it in a spot that favors them. Sure players on the other teams do it, but I've never seen a team as meticulous about it as the Eagles, almost as if it is a reflex that they are trained to do. Makes me wonder what Andy Reid teaches that team. Just little things like that bother me.

Are you referring to McNabb using the Giants sideline phone? I wouldn't call that taunting. That's just Donovan being goofy.

Dark Donnie
01-12-2009, 12:17 AM
Which is why I concede sleazy would've been a better word choice.

lol I guess:cwink: Maybe it's because there on TV so much that you notice it...who knows.

Matt
01-12-2009, 12:17 AM
MVP is so unbelievably subjective. I mean, can you really say that Peyton Manning was more valuable to his team than somebody like Rivers or Matt Ryan? Or if it really is most valuable to the league, how the heck was Peyton Manning valuable to the league this year? His team flew under the radar all year and beat a bunch of scrubs in the last month of the season to get into the playoffs.

If you want valuable to the league, go with Matt Ryan, who changed the entire outlook of a franchise.

Or....give it to Plaxico Burress's gun. That pistol completely altered the balance of power in the NFC.

Subjective or not, I can think of at least ten more deserving candidates than Peyton, ranging from Matt Cassel to Ed Reed. The name Manning got him that award, and that is a shame.

Hunter Rider
01-12-2009, 12:17 AM
LMAO...before The Giants weren't even entertaining the idea of bringing him back and now:


Source: Newark Star-Ledger

Now that IS sleazy, the moron even shot himself.

Matt
01-12-2009, 12:19 AM
lol I guess:cwink: Maybe it's because there on TV so much that you notice it...who knows.

Its entirely possible. Being a Pennsylvanian, the Eagles game usually is the NFC game that Fox shows, so yeah, I am most exposed to the Steelers and the Eagles.

Dark Donnie
01-12-2009, 12:19 AM
Report: Rex Ryan emerges as Jets' favorite

According to the Newark Star-Ledger, Ravens defensive boss Rex Ryan has emerged as the new front runner to be the Jets' next head coach.
The Star-Ledger had Jets OC Brian Schottenheimer as the favorite a week ago and he remains a contender. However, Ryan reportedly met with Jets brass for five hours Sunday and the sides "hit it off in a big way." The Jets could keep Schotteneheimer in place if they hired Ryan. New York would also not have to tweak its defense much because Ryan can run a 3-4 scheme. Jan. 12 - 12:40 am et
Source: Newark Star-Ledger

Matt
01-12-2009, 12:20 AM
Now that IS sleazy, the moron even shot himself.

Agreed. Plax should be the Barry Bonds of football. No team should want to touch him. His behavior shows such a selfish, disregard for his team. If I were the owner of the G-Men, he'd of got his walking papers long ago and we'd be taking him to arbitration to get our signing bonus back.

Matt
01-12-2009, 12:22 AM
Source: Newark Star-Ledger

Ryan should not have met with the Jets until the playoffs were over. He is a huge part of what is happening in Baltimore right now, and to know he is interviewing jobs in the midst of a heated play-off run has got to be a blow to morale.

NewYorkSpider
01-12-2009, 12:23 AM
OMFG :lmao:

xWPcu5ZDDjk

Cmill216
01-12-2009, 12:24 AM
Agreed. Plax should be the Barry Bonds of football. No team should want to touch him. His behavior shows such a selfish, disregard for his team. If I were the owner of the G-Men, he'd of got his walking papers long ago and we'd be taking him to arbitration to get our signing bonus back.

Yeah, but dude. It's not like he punched a stripper. The cat accidentally shot himself.

Stupid? Yes. But to say you wouldn't bring him back when clearly his absence had a negative impact on your team? I don't get that.

Matt
01-12-2009, 12:25 AM
:funny:

Hunter Rider
01-12-2009, 12:26 AM
Agreed. Plax should be the Barry Bonds of football. No team should want to touch him. His behavior shows such a selfish, disregard for his team. If I were the owner of the G-Men, he'd of got his walking papers long ago and we'd be taking him to arbitration to get our signing bonus back.

Exactly, the guy is just a cheap thug, this is not his first problem either, he has no respect for the team at all, a big team like the Giants should be able to attract another top quality WR to replace him.

Matt
01-12-2009, 12:26 AM
Yeah, but dude. It's not like he punched a stripper. The cat accidentally shot himself.

Stupid? Yes. But to say you wouldn't bring him back when clearly his absence had a negative impact on your team? I don't get that.

He didn't just accidentially shoot himself though. He broke a law that could land him in prison for three years by carrying a concealed, unlicensed gun. What the hell did he need a gun for? The second he left his house with that gun he was showing a total disregard for his team and that is unforgivable in my book.

Hunter Rider
01-12-2009, 12:28 AM
He didn't just accidentially shoot himself though. He broke a law that could land him in prison for three years by carrying a concealed, unlicensed gun. What the hell did he need a gun for? The second he left his house with that gun he was showing a total disregard for his team and that is unforgivable in my book.

I dunno, I know that when I leave the house i always make a check list " chews, house keys, phone...oh almost forgot my glock...there, good to go! "

BlackLantern
01-12-2009, 12:28 AM
as a Giants fan....I am conflicted about having Burress back because I have serious issue with all these athletes and their shenanigans....Punching strippers, shootings, all that crap

Cmill216
01-12-2009, 12:29 AM
IMO, guys like Plaxico are too hard to come by for teams to just say, "Oh, well, we'll just move on without him."

I can see if this was a Pacman situation where the dude's on-the-field play wasn't all that spectacular, but Plaxico Burress (when healthy) is one of the most physically gifted receivers in the league. You're not going to just sign somebody else who can give you the advantages a Plaxico can give you.

Double Down
01-12-2009, 12:31 AM
I honestly don't think there are any so-called "dirty" teams. There are certainly dirty players, but I wouldn't tag a whole team that way for the way one player is. Rodney Harrison is probably the dirtiest player in the league, but that doesn't mean the Patriots are a dirty team.
And I certainly would not classify the Steelers or the Eagles as a dirty team.
But, I guess, if you wanted to call out one team for being dirty, I would go with the Ravens, for the way they always seem to be placing bounties on players. But, again, it's not the whole team, just a few guys.

Matt
01-12-2009, 12:32 AM
IMO, guys like Plaxico are too hard to come by for teams to just say, "Oh, well, we'll just move on without him."

I can see if this was a Pacman situation where the dude's on-the-field play wasn't all that spectacular, but Plaxico Burress (when healthy) is one of the most physically gifted receivers in the league. You're not going to just sign somebody else who can give you the advantages a Plaxico can give you.

In 2005 the Steelers had a choice between Hines Ward and Plaxico Burress. They could only afford one of the two and had to pick. They offered Hines the big contract. Why? Because while he may not be as gifted of a player, he brings so much in intangibles. The mentality, leadership, and ethic a player brings to the locker room is arguably more important than talent.

Besides, I've heard TO is gonna be shopping around. They can always go for him. :hehe:

Double Down
01-12-2009, 12:34 AM
IMO, guys like Plaxico are too hard to come by for teams to just say, "Oh, well, we'll just move on without him."

I can see if this was a Pacman situation where the dude's on-the-field play wasn't all that spectacular, but Plaxico Burress (when healthy) is one of the most physically gifted receivers in the league. You're not going to just sign somebody else who can give you the advantages a Plaxico can give you.

The Steelers did just that. They did not even offer him a contract when he became a free agent, and he hadn't even shot himself yet.

Hunter Rider
01-12-2009, 12:35 AM
It's about integrity IMO.

Double Down
01-12-2009, 01:01 AM
Biggest hurdle is cleared
By Phil Sheridan
PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER COLUMNIST
EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. - The impossible suddenly looks probable. After requiring a miracle just to sneak into the playoffs, the Eagles are now two very manageable wins from retracing the Phillies' parade route.
They will play in their fifth NFC championship game in eight years this Sunday in Arizona. There is nothing about the Cardinals or the AFC finalists, Baltimore and Pittsburgh, that is as imposing as the New York Giants at the Meadowlands.
By beating the defending Super Bowl champions, 23-11, in a brutal game today, the Eagles cleared the highest hurdle between themselves and their first NFL championship since 1960.
...
Steve Spagnuolo, the defensive coordinator who helped the Giants win it all, came into the Eagles' locker room after the game. He embraced Pat Shurmur and Ted Williams, with whom he worked in Philadelphia for eight years.
"Go get that ring," Spagnuolo told his old friends before seeking out Brian Dawkins to deliver the same message: "Go get that ring."
The hardest part of the job is done.

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/breaking/sports_breaking/20090111_Phil_Sheridan__Biggest_hurdle_is_cleared. html

Matt
01-12-2009, 01:03 AM
I disagree with that on so many levels, I'd say the two toughest defenses in the NFL are far more imposing than anything the G-Men had (then again, it is by a Philly columnist so he probably does want it in a positive light).

Double Down
01-12-2009, 01:05 AM
I disagree with that on so many levels, I'd say the two toughest defenses in the NFL are far more imposing than anything the G-Men had (then again, it is by a Philly columnist so he probably does want it in a positive light).

It's just stupid. But I guess the Eagles might as well purchase their rings right now. :whatever:

Mister J
01-12-2009, 01:08 AM
Claiming that neither, the Steelers or the Ravens, defense is comparable, if not outright superior, to that of the Giants is ridiculous. I don't care where the game is played.

Cmill216
01-12-2009, 01:12 AM
In 2005 the Steelers had a choice between Hines Ward and Plaxico Burress. They could only afford one of the two and had to pick. They offered Hines the big contract. Why? Because while he may not be as gifted of a player, he brings so much in intangibles. The mentality, leadership, and ethic a player brings to the locker room is arguably more important than talent.

Besides, I've heard TO is gonna be shopping around. They can always go for him. :hehe:

The Steelers did just that. They did not even offer him a contract when he became a free agent, and he hadn't even shot himself yet.

Yes, but you're comparing a contractual issue in free agency to dropping the guy altogether because of an off-the-field incident.

And upon losing Plaxico in 2005, the Steelers showed they didn't need him. Upon losing Plaxico this season, the Giants showed they did.

Double Down
01-12-2009, 01:13 AM
The comments from the Eagles fans after the column are great:

Posted by burholme 09:45 PM, 01/11/2009
Do Not Look Past Arizona! That's probably what Atlanta and Carolina did. They're a very good home team.

Posted by jonnyb0916 11:57 PM, 01/11/2009
Definite locker room material, Sheridan. Way to go. This will be a tough game on the road and the last we thing we need is to take AZ lightly. Go Birds!

Posted by eeglenutt 12:16 AM, 01/12/2009
Memo to the Daily News headline writer: If I had a say, you'd be fired by midnight. It isn't hard enough to win in the NFL, on the road? You have to give the Cardinals bulletin board material, when this win isn't even a few hours old? Shame on you. This is the mentality that sent Carolina home for the season. Ignore this ridiculous and irresponsible headline, Birds, and keep it rolling!

Posted by jtj06 12:28 AM, 01/12/2009
I disagree with Sheridan's opening. The Giants limped into the playoffs. I thought this would be the easiest hurdle going into the playoffs. I think this is the Eagles' year, but AZ, BAL, & PIT all would have stifled the Giants too.

Excel
01-12-2009, 02:17 AM
Phily will lose as soon as they begin to buy into their own hype. They cannot underestimate Arizona.

Excel
01-12-2009, 02:21 AM
McDaniels is leaving the Pats-YES! Notice to next years fantasy footballers: DRAFT JAY CUTLER!

OMFG :lmao:

xWPcu5ZDDjk

Bastards :cmad:

Caped Crusader
01-12-2009, 02:49 AM
IMO, guys like Plaxico are too hard to come by for teams to just say, "Oh, well, we'll just move on without him."

I can see if this was a Pacman situation where the dude's on-the-field play wasn't all that spectacular, but Plaxico Burress (when healthy) is one of the most physically gifted receivers in the league. You're not going to just sign somebody else who can give you the advantages a Plaxico can give you.


100% agree, I would like to see him comeback but if he doesnt then the Giants might have to work on a trade for a WR.. BUT we do have a good core of receivers, I hope Manningham works hard during the off season IMO he has the talent to be a #1 in the league so we'll see.

Next season our defense will be very scary with our best defensive player coming back (Osi) we were a top 5 defense without him. Phillips will be starting at safety and we need to draft a good OLB or sign good FA OLB, I like Kehl a lot but we need another LB on the other side, I really like Bart Scott and would love to see him in blue next season. Kiwanuka will be the '07 Tuck, this will also be huge for Tuck as well for him to get more rest and be healthier down the stretch. This is why im not so down after this playoff loss, Giants have such a bright future. No reason at all for Giant fans to be hanging there heads, they will be back next season tougher than ever.

Goodnight. :brucebat:

DChero
01-12-2009, 04:56 AM
I have nothing bad to say about any of the Eagles' defensive players, but that team in general isn't enough to take the AFC's finalists. I'm from Pittsburgh, so I won't talk them up, but Baltimore is pound-for-pound tougher than anything McNabb can handle. Enjoy the ride NFC, this isn't the regular season anymore!

Seriously, I have a lot of respect for the Eagles. They have a defense that shows up more than Adam Jones at keg parties. The problem is the in decisive offensive coaching. It was a question mark through the early part of the season and I still believe it's a hindrance. Say what you want about their quarterback, compare him to the inexperienced Flacco or injury-prone Roethlisberger, but he can have better days than any of the trio. It's when he needs to make plays that his potential is weathered. A one-sided offense may work in the NFC, but the AFC won't allow it. It's up to Westbrook to win against those stronger defenses, not the Eagles' frontman. It's about time they get a constant run attack, we say the same thing across the state. If the Eagles can do that then they will be the team to beat in, not only the NFC, but the NFL.

DChero
01-12-2009, 05:00 AM
100% agree, I would like to see him comeback but if he doesnt then the Giants might have to work on a trade for a WR.. BUT we do have a good core of receivers, I hope Manningham works hard during the off season IMO he has the talent to be a #1 in the league so we'll see.

Next season our defense will be very scary with our best defensive player coming back (Osi) we were a top 5 defense without him. Phillips will be starting at safety and we need to draft a good OLB or sign good FA OLB, I like Kehl a lot but we need another LB on the other side, I really like Bart Scott and would love to see him in blue next season. Kiwanuka will be the '07 Tuck, this will also be huge for Tuck as well for him to get more rest and be healthier down the stretch. This is why im not so down after this playoff loss, Giants have such a bright future. No reason at all for Giant fans to be hanging there heads, they will be back next season tougher than ever.

Goodnight. :brucebat:
I really hope you guys do well. I went to college with a guy from New York, huge Giants fans, and he was kind enough to root for the Steelers with me through their recent Super Bowl run. I've been returning the favor ever since because the two fan bases are so similar. If the Steelers don't take it, then I'm always about the NFC's Giants. After that I have a checkdown list of the Ravens, Bills, Eagles, etc.

Keep up hope. With a Manning, you will always have that. :cwink:

SuperKoala
01-12-2009, 06:15 AM
it's about time bruce arians got the offense clicking

Dark Donnie
01-12-2009, 07:22 AM
The comments from the Eagles fans after the column are great:

Posted by burholme 09:45 PM, 01/11/2009
Do Not Look Past Arizona! That's probably what Atlanta and Carolina did. They're a very good home team.

Posted by jonnyb0916 11:57 PM, 01/11/2009
Definite locker room material, Sheridan. Way to go. This will be a tough game on the road and the last we thing we need is to take AZ lightly. Go Birds!

Posted by eeglenutt 12:16 AM, 01/12/2009
Memo to the Daily News headline writer: If I had a say, you'd be fired by midnight. It isn't hard enough to win in the NFL, on the road? You have to give the Cardinals bulletin board material, when this win isn't even a few hours old? Shame on you. This is the mentality that sent Carolina home for the season. Ignore this ridiculous and irresponsible headline, Birds, and keep it rolling!

Posted by jtj06 12:28 AM, 01/12/2009
I disagree with Sheridan's opening. The Giants limped into the playoffs. I thought this would be the easiest hurdle going into the playoffs. I think this is the Eagles' year, but AZ, BAL, & PIT all would have stifled the Giants too.


lol my thoughts exactly.

The Game
01-12-2009, 07:36 AM
I hope the iggles do not start buying into their own hype, I would really like them to win the SB. It would be nice for guys like B-Dawk Don-of-them to get a ring, seeing Asante playing so well makes me sad and happy (we raised that boy).

The Giants do NEED Plastico, Toomer, Hixon et all can't make up for the loss of that guy

Dark Donnie
01-12-2009, 07:42 AM
Broncos Defense-TM-Broncos Jan. 12 - 1:48 am et

Citing a team source, NFL.com's Adam Schefter reports that ex-49ers head coach Mike Nolan is expected to be the Broncos' next defensive coordinator.

The Josh McDaniels era has begun with misinformation his mentor would be proud of. The Denver Post reported Dom Capers would replace Bob Slowik, but Schefter has never been wrong about the team he once covered. Nolan is choosing the Broncos over Green Bay, where he was considered the heavy favorite to land as defensive coordinator as recently as Friday.
Source: NFL.com

Go Web Go!
01-12-2009, 09:13 AM
Bastards :cmad:

Hee Hee

Kaleb
01-12-2009, 10:22 AM
Tony Dungy is going to retire. It was announced on Sportscentre

Kaleb
01-12-2009, 10:25 AM
FoxSports.com's Jay Glazer reports that Tony Dungy will step down as Colts coach later Monday.

Glazer hears that Dungy is making the rounds at the Colts complex, saying his goodbyes. A 5PM presser is scheduled, at which time assistant head Jim Caldwell should officially take the reigns after Dungy led the Colts to playoff appearances in all seven seasons with Indy.

LegendaryCaleb
01-12-2009, 10:29 AM
Dungy is such a great coach...what a loss for the Colts...

Silver Knight
01-12-2009, 10:38 AM
Dungy is such a great coach...what a loss for the Colts...
Agreed.

ih8nyy
01-12-2009, 10:42 AM
Tony Dungy is going to retire. It was announced on Sportscentre

Thank God he didn't Drag his decision out like Brett Favre will.

Silver Knight
01-12-2009, 10:51 AM
Thank God he didn't Drag his decision out like Brett Favre will.
Dungy is a class act.

ih8nyy
01-12-2009, 10:53 AM
Dungy is a class act.

100% agree.

Dr. Evil
01-12-2009, 11:13 AM
With Jim Caldwell as the next Colts Head Coach, there probably won't be much drop off, if at all next season.