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What would have been your absolute dream ticket for 2008 Prez/Veep?
Warner/Brown. Brown needs a few more years experience before being President but he would make the perfect VP for Mark Warner.
The Senator
02-09-2008, 01:37 PM
I have six:
Clinton/ Evan Bayh
Clinton/ Dick Gephardt
Clinton/ Bob Kerrey
Obama/ Tom Daschle
Obama/ Brian Schweitzer
Obama/ Byron Dorgan
Chris B
02-09-2008, 02:28 PM
Edwards/Richardson
Warner/Feingold
Warner/Bayh
Biden/Clark
The Senator
02-09-2008, 04:45 PM
My ultimate dream tickets would have been Bayh/ Warner or Warner/ Feingold.
Not that its my dream ticket.....but the ticket that is unbeatable by anyone.....is Clinton/Obama......and its a possible unbeatable ticket.....Obama/Clinton would be unbeatable as well, but will never happen.
rdh007
02-10-2008, 02:36 PM
Warner/ Feingold.
Teh return of teh demoxracies!!1!
I agree with your choice, good sir.
Right now, though:
Obama/Warner
Obama/Kaine
and much less likely:
Obama/Hagel
Obama/Powell
If it's Clinton, it'll be Clark.
Teh return of teh demoxracies!!1!
I agree with your choice, good sir.
Right now, though:
Obama/Warner
Obama/Kaine
and much less likely:
Obama/Hagel
Obama/Powell
If it's Clinton, it'll be Clark
You may want to add Warner to the "much less likely" category being as he is currently running for Senate in Virginia. I doubt he would abandon his campaign 4 months from the election accept a VP nomination. Especially when ever poll shows him winning the Senate seat with ease.
That said...Kaine has a great possibility of being Obama's running mate, I'd say. He endorsed him before he won Iowa and it became "stylish" to endorse Barack Obama. He is experienced in the executive branch and a white, southern male who has more moderate beliefs to balance out Obama's ticket. He is pretty ideal to balance the ticket. By the time Obama is in office (2009), Kaine will have served 3 of his 4 years and will not be eligible for re-election in 2010 under Virginia law (I believe the governor has to wait a term before seeking a second).
The only thing that is impractical about him is that his lieutenant governor Bill Bolling is a Republican and he would be eligible to run if he only serves on year of Kaine's term. So the party may not want to give up that Governor seat and in turn create a Republican govenror who can run for Governor again as an incumbent in 2010.
comicgirl
02-10-2008, 03:01 PM
Tennesee Tuxedo/Chumley
Sigmund the Sea Monster/H. R. Puff-n-Stuff/
http://www.cfhf.net/lyrics/images/sigmund2.jpg
you know Siggy would win.
rdh007
02-10-2008, 03:03 PM
Though I would personally prefer possibly being VP to being Senator for certain, Warner might differ.
I don't know why I forgot Richardson for Obama. I wonder if he'd take it. Having a Democratic governor out west is pretty important, too. Hmmmmmm
I'm convinced it's Clark for Clinton, especially with McCain winning.
Excel
02-10-2008, 03:05 PM
Obama/Edwards
With Edwards the frontrunner for 2016.
Edwards 2016 would never happen, IMO........the media tends to crucify the VP these days........and they already use him for laughs right now...
Steve Rogers
02-10-2008, 03:11 PM
Wesley Clark with Richardson as VP. That would be awesome.
I might would actually vote for that team....
StorminNorman
02-10-2008, 03:43 PM
Mitt Romney/Colin Powell
Huckabee/Powell
or
Huckabee/Rice
The Professor
02-10-2008, 03:55 PM
Mitt Romney/Colin Powell
Don't you mean Obama/Edwards :grin:
rdh007
02-10-2008, 03:59 PM
Mitt Romney/Colin Powell
I could've lived with that.
The Senator
02-10-2008, 04:00 PM
Also, anything with Barney Frank on the ticket :up:
I could've lived with that.
Other way around, and I might say yes.....
Havok83
02-10-2008, 04:12 PM
My dream ticket would be Obama as Pres with Edwards as VP
Obama - Powell
i like it alot, for so many reasons, what a tag team.
powell got sandbagged with his UN speech, aside from that... i like him
StorminNorman
02-10-2008, 04:42 PM
Don't you mean Obama/Edwards :grin:
Willem Dafoe/Willem Dafoe
How about a Dafoe/Busey ticket?
StorminNorman
02-10-2008, 05:03 PM
Sure we could have a Dafoe/Busey ticket...
...if you want this country to turn communist.
Well, Dafoe is a Staunch Communist, and Busey is a Staunch Alcoholic, so it balances out...
StorminNorman
02-10-2008, 05:16 PM
Dafoe stands for everything Ron Perlman doesnt!
Though I would personally prefer possibly being VP to being Senator for certain, Warner might differ.
It just doesn't make sense to me to drop a major state-wide campaign that by the time he gets the VP nomination he will have put millions of dollars into, won the primary, etc. Especially after he decided not to run for President saying that he did not want to have a nation wide campaign at this time.
Plus I think the DNC would take major issue with him dropping out of the Senate race when he is pretty much a shoe-in (They love him in Virginia. He is up by huge margins in every poll). Dropping out in early June to mid-July would leave the Democrats without a candidate and they would be forced to just grab a fill-in who would inevitably be destroyed much like Alan Keyes was by crushed by Obama when Jack Ryan had to drop out of the Illinois Senate race in 2004. Yeah, I don't think the DNC would let Obama pick Warner and lose a new Senate seat which is currently held by a retiring Republican.
I don't know why I forgot Richardson for Obama. I wonder if he'd take it. Having a Democratic governor out west is pretty important, too. Hmmmmmm
I'm convinced it's Clark for Clinton, especially with McCain winning.
Yeah, Clark is a definite for Hillary. As for Richardson for Obama...seems risky. Too minorities on one card, especially one of Latino descent when Mexicans are currently the trendy, politically acceptable group to hate.
IF Clinton wins, I think she'll ask Obama first.....if he says no, she'll go with Clark.......and Clark will say yes. Obama's first choice will probably be Clark as well.........as much as I like Richardson.....in this day and age, he's just.............................................. ......................................boring....an d at the end of the day, that could hurt the presidential run. Cabinet position, definitely, VP, doubtful.
ScottyBBadd
02-10-2008, 09:02 PM
If the Dems put their egos aside their ticket will be some combo of Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama. Sure as I am posting this, I am certian the GOP ticket will be John McCain/Rudy Guallini.
If the Dems put their egos aside their ticket will be some combo of Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama. Sure as I am posting this, I am certian the GOP ticket will be John McCain/Rudy Guallini.
That would be a strong ticket on the Republican side, but I'm not sure what they would do to the far right voters.....both of those are Moderate Republicans, with one being left of center on immigration, and the other being left of center on most social issues......
As far as the Dems, Hillary will never settle for VP.....
ScottyBBadd
02-10-2008, 09:38 PM
That would be a strong ticket on the Republican side, but I'm not sure what they would do to the far right voters.....both of those are Moderate Republicans, with one being left of center on immigration, and the other being left of center on most social issues......
Well, if the far right wants the White House back they will swallow their ego and go Moderate. Most voters consider themselves Moderate.
As far as the Dems, Hillary will never settle for VP.....
If Hillary is a team player and not an egotistical b-bomb that she can be she will be Obama's runningmate.
Well, if the far right wants the White House back they will swallow their ego and go Moderate. Most voters consider themselves Moderate.
Tell that to the states that have so far voted for Huckabee.....
If Hillary is a team player and not an egotistical b-bomb that she can be she will be Obama's runningmate.
Won't happen....
People that get to this level in politics are EGOTISTICAL, in more ways than one......even Obama, because they way they will talk him into it, is the fact that he would be guaranteed 8 years starting in 2016.....
rdh007
02-10-2008, 09:56 PM
It just doesn't make sense to me to drop a major state-wide campaign that by the time he gets the VP nomination he will have put millions of dollars into, won the primary, etc. Especially after he decided not to run for President saying that he did not want to have a nation wide campaign at this time.
Plus I think the DNC would take major issue with him dropping out of the Senate race when he is pretty much a shoe-in (They love him in Virginia. He is up by huge margins in every poll). Dropping out in early June to mid-July would leave the Democrats without a candidate and they would be forced to just grab a fill-in who would inevitably be destroyed much like Alan Keyes was by crushed by Obama when Jack Ryan had to drop out of the Illinois Senate race in 2004. Yeah, I don't think the DNC would let Obama pick Warner and lose a new Senate seat which is currently held by a retiring Republican.
I don't know why I forgot Richardson for Obama. I wonder if he'd take it. Having a Democratic governor out west is pretty important, too. Hmmmmmm
Yeah, Clark is a definite for Hillary. As for Richardson for Obama...seems risky. Too minorities on one card, especially one of Latino descent when Mexicans are currently the trendy, politically acceptable group to hate.
As usual, you've sold me. Warner stays. But I'm not changing my mind on Richardson as a possibility.
rdh007
02-10-2008, 09:59 PM
[quote=ScottyBBadd;14032501]Well, if the far right wants the White House back they will swallow their ego and go Moderate. Most voters consider themselves Moderate.[quote]
Tell that to the states that have so far voted for Huckabee.....
Won't happen....
People that get to this level in politics are EGOTISTICAL, in more ways than one......even Obama, because they way they will talk him into it, is the fact that he would be guaranteed 8 years starting in 2016.....
His age makes it easier for him than for her, you're right. Also, he can always use his relative new-ness to the national scene as a reason to run if they lose. An Edwards-esque run at it again. While we generally don't like losers, I think he's got a better shot at running away from that title than Edwards did. Mostly because he could win his seat in Illinois a second time and everyone knew Edwards was done in North Carolina anyway. Which is too bad because Edwards is win.
The Senator
02-10-2008, 09:59 PM
It just doesn't make sense to me to drop a major state-wide campaign that by the time he gets the VP nomination he will have put millions of dollars into, won the primary, etc. Especially after he decided not to run for President saying that he did not want to have a nation wide campaign at this time.
Plus I think the DNC would take major issue with him dropping out of the Senate race when he is pretty much a shoe-in (They love him in Virginia. He is up by huge margins in every poll). Dropping out in early June to mid-July would leave the Democrats without a candidate and they would be forced to just grab a fill-in who would inevitably be destroyed much like Alan Keyes was by crushed by Obama when Jack Ryan had to drop out of the Illinois Senate race in 2004. Yeah, I don't think the DNC would let Obama pick Warner and lose a new Senate seat which is currently held by a retiring Republican.
I don't know why I forgot Richardson for Obama. I wonder if he'd take it. Having a Democratic governor out west is pretty important, too. Hmmmmmm
I agree with everything you're saying here. Mark Warner will not let this Senate seat go, because it will kill him politically. If he runs as VP and loses, he'll not only lose his chance to be Vice President, but he'll also screw up just about any chance he has at keeping himself in the limelight to run for President in a future election cycle, whether it's in 2012 or 2016. That's really the only reason why I see him running for the Senate, so he can keep himself at the center of national attention. Had John Warner decided to stay in the Senate, though, I'd have no doubt in my mind Mark Warner would be at the top of everyone's VP list, and that he'd be actively campaigning for it.
And while I agree Richardson would be a strong VP for just about everyone, I don't think the racial aspects will play good for Obama in the general election. Two minorities on the same ticket is almost as big a risk as having a Clinton/ Obama ticket. If he wants a strong, experienced, Western governor, he ought to pick either Brad Henry from Oklahoma or Brian Schweitzer from Montana. Both are extremely popular in their home states, so there's a chance both of them could turn blue. Of course, that's more likely with Schweitzer and Montana, because Montana is trending Democratic as of late. Plus, Schweitzer would have national appeal, too, since he's a 'straight talker' and quite the moderate.
rdh007
02-10-2008, 10:01 PM
I'm not giving up on Obama/Richardson gentlemen. I'm not giving up!
Though Schweitzer would work too. :(
The Senator
02-10-2008, 10:37 PM
I'm not giving up on Obama/Richardson gentlemen. I'm not giving up!
Though Schweitzer would work too. :(
I'm afraid the hundreds of consultants working on his campaign will have to fight you off, then :csad:
ScottyBBadd
02-15-2008, 01:46 PM
Well, if the far right wants the White House back they will swallow their ego and go Moderate. Most voters consider themselves Moderate
Will if they want the White House back, they will.
StorminNorman
02-15-2008, 01:53 PM
[quote=rdh007;14032685][quote=Kel;14032530]
Will if they want the White House back, they will.
The GOP went moderate.
Raiden
02-15-2008, 02:12 PM
Obama/Powell
Obama/Richardson
Obama/Warner
I can't see Clinton willing to settle for VP spot, though.
Malice
02-15-2008, 02:13 PM
Ross Perot\Admiral Stockdale
The Chairman
02-17-2008, 09:42 PM
Walken / Petrellli.
Walken / Petrellli.
Don't be an idiot! Everyone knows Walken is FAAAR too inexperienced to lead our country in such a hectic time! We need a man with the leadership to set our economy back on track and military experience to lead us to victory in Iraq! Zod should be President, Walken can be his running mate! Then in 2016 Walken can run!
Bow before Zod in 2008!
http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/zod/zod-4-prez-small.jpg
:cwink: :woot:
Malice
02-18-2008, 06:22 AM
Don't be an idiot! Everyone knows Walken is FAAAR too inexperienced to lead our country in such a hectic time! We need a man with the leadership to set our economy back on track and military experience to lead us to victory in Iraq! Zod should be President, Walken can be his running mate! Then in 2016 Walken can run!
Bow before Zod in 2008!
:cwink: :woot:
You have got to be kidding!
Admiral Stockdale is the man....granted ...he is a little ... dead at the moment, but a hero never trully leaves!
rdh007
02-18-2008, 08:51 AM
Depending upon which movie you believe, Zod is dead too. Of course, I prefer the Donner version where he's carted away by the cops after having his powers taken from him.
redfirebird2008
02-18-2008, 10:11 AM
Obama/Clark.
Good luck John McCain on attacking Wes Clark's military experience, which I am sure he will try to do to Obama if Obama is the nominee.
Venom'sDad
02-18-2008, 10:34 AM
I think John McCain/Mitt Romney would be good ticket and go a long way to unite the Party. There are other factors that make thic a good ticket.
Another one would be John McCain/George Allen, but if Americans rarely pick Senators to be President, they surely wouldn"t like two Senators on the same ticket. We saw how that work out the last time around.... but Allen was Governor for one term in 93.
rdh007
02-18-2008, 10:38 AM
Would the Republicans ever support a McCain/Son of a Jew ticket? or for that matter what would McCain's mother say about her son picking a Mormon?
redfirebird2008
02-18-2008, 10:39 AM
I found Romney's endorsement of McCain to be pretty annoying. Those two absolutely hate each other and were about as negative towards each other as Kerry and Bush. If they were to "come together" on the Presidential ticket, it'd be pretty amusing.
rdh007
02-18-2008, 10:49 AM
I found Romney's endorsement of McCain to be pretty annoying. Those two absolutely hate each other and were about as negative towards each other as Kerry and Bush. If they were to "come together" on the Presidential ticket, it'd be pretty amusing.
Similar to Kerry/Edwards. One never got the feeling that they saw eye to eye. Clinton and Gore were much the same except that they seemed to have a professional relationship and some similar feelings on politics. Though what I found surprising was when I read (in Newsweek I believe) that Gore was more hawk-ish on foreign policy than Clinton.
Venom'sDad
02-18-2008, 10:53 AM
Would the Republicans ever support a McCain/Son of a Jew ticket? or for that matter what would McCain's mother say about her son picking a Mormon?
Ha Ha... good question. :up:
There are many Jews in the Republican Party as well as classify themselves as Conservative. However, the mother thing is interesting... :hehe:
Malice
02-18-2008, 11:18 AM
I dont see McCain picking Leiberman (sp?)
Leiberman is moderate Democrat. McCain needs someone on the right to get the votes...picking Leiberman would most likely be a very bad move.
The Senator
02-18-2008, 11:28 AM
I dont see McCain picking Leiberman (sp?)
Leiberman is moderate Democrat. McCain needs someone on the right to get the votes...picking Leiberman would most likely be a very bad move.
Lieberman also made a pledge that he wouldn't run as McCain's VP if he was asked to, so I certainly don't see that happening.
Superman4ever
02-19-2008, 08:06 PM
Dem for '08: Obama/Edwards.
I really like Edwards.
Republicans: Paul/Any Mammal! I don't like any of the other Rep. they just seem like slimy sycophants to the Evangelicals. Ew.
With actual possibilities as president.....with dream pics for me.
Obama/Clark
Clinton/Obama
McCain/Bloomberg
The Chairman
02-19-2008, 08:17 PM
Scratch my vote for Walken. I want this man:
http://www.hahmed.com/pics/Stephen_Colbert_flag.jpg
The Senator
02-19-2008, 08:29 PM
With actual possibilities as president.....with dream pics for me.
Obama/Clark
Clinton/Obama
McCain/Bloomberg
Obama/ Bloomberg would be strong too...
MaskedManJRK
02-20-2008, 12:26 AM
Kucinich/Obama
or
Kucinich/Paul
Hey, it said DREAM, right? :csad:
The Senator
02-20-2008, 12:30 AM
Kucinich/Obama
or
Kucinich/Paul
Hey, it said DREAM, right? :csad:
Kucinich is the wicked little elf which haunts my nightmares :csad:
ScottyBBadd
02-20-2008, 01:33 AM
The GOP went moderate.
Exactly. A more Moderate ticket might sway Independant voters, and some "Reagan Democrats".
MaskedManJRK
02-20-2008, 08:09 AM
Kucinich is the wicked little elf which haunts my nightmares :csad:
Which is why I like him. :woot:
SuperMonkey
02-23-2008, 04:20 PM
Mitt Romney/Fred Thompson :dry:
DREAM SP, not NIGHTMARE.....lol
hippie_hunter
02-23-2008, 05:59 PM
Depending upon which movie you believe, Zod is dead too. Of course, I prefer the Donner version where he's carted away by the cops after having his powers taken from him.
Well technically in the Donner version Zod still has his powers and is trapped in the Phantom Zone because Superman reversed almost everything.
Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton.
I do prefer one ticket over the other, but I believe the two need to run together to unite the party. (Clinton can pull in what Obama can't, and vice versa.)
ScottyBBadd
02-24-2008, 04:04 PM
A John McCain/Fred Thompson ticket might appeal to the far right of the GOP.
CorpusBlack
02-26-2008, 03:19 PM
Bill Pullman/Jeff Goldblum
The Senator
02-26-2008, 05:04 PM
A John McCain/Fred Thompson ticket might appeal to the far right of the GOP.
It'll also appeal to the living dead :o
SuperMonkey
03-01-2008, 03:59 PM
No, it wouldn't..... trust me. They hate Thompson almost as mucha s they hate McCain...
not sure why
StorminNorman
03-01-2008, 04:09 PM
No, it wouldn't..... trust me. They hate Thompson almost as mucha s they hate McCain...
not sure why
That is incorrect.
SuperMonkey
03-01-2008, 04:15 PM
Lsitened to Limbaugh, Savage or anyone else lately?
Heheh, yeah :csad:
Superman
03-01-2008, 05:18 PM
Obama/Edwards
With Edwards the frontrunner for 2016.That sounds about right, I'll go with this. :up::woot:
StorminNorman
03-01-2008, 06:03 PM
Lsitened to Limbaugh, Savage or anyone else lately?
Heheh, yeah :csad:
Savage is hardly a representative of the Conservative branch of the GOP, hell - he is more irrational than most far rightwingers out there.
Limabaugh had no problems with Thompson last I heard - I know most of the very conservative people I know supported Thompson and would do so today.
souvlaki
03-01-2008, 06:33 PM
Dem for '08: Obama/Edwards.
I really like Edwards.
I dont see that happening. I get the sinking feeling the only reason Edwards hasn't endorsed Clinton yet is because Obama will probably win the nomination. If he were going to be anyone's running mate, I would think it would be Clinton. Not that I think he dislikes Obama by any stretch of the imagination. I think he would be happy with either receiving the nomination. But I don't think he would take the VP slot again for either candidate, and if by some miracle he did, I would think it would be for Clinton.
My top choices would be Obama/Bloomberg, Obama/Richardson, Obama/Warner, Obama/Biden, or Obama/Clark. If we are talking about an unrealistic, will never happen in a billion years ticket I'd be happy with an Obama/Clinton ticket if just because it would unite the party more than any other ticket and would insure a win in November but he certainly does not need her to win.
If by some miracle Clinton got the nomination, I would not be happy with anything less than a Clinton/Obama ticket.
souvlaki
03-01-2008, 06:39 PM
Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton.
I do prefer one ticket over the other, but I believe the two need to run together to unite the party. (Clinton can pull in what Obama can't, and vice versa.)
Personally I think Clinton needs Obama on her ticket a lot more than Obama needs Clinton.
Memphis Slim
03-02-2008, 12:58 PM
Huckabee and Romey
Personally I think Clinton needs Obama on her ticket a lot more than Obama needs Clinton.
That may be true, but I would like to see that. :yay:
comicgirl
03-02-2008, 02:04 PM
The Obama-Warner Scenario
http://www.observer.com/2008/obama-warner-scenario
GreenKToo
03-02-2008, 02:07 PM
powell/rice.
powell/romney
The Senator
03-02-2008, 02:31 PM
The Obama-Warner Scenario
http://www.observer.com/2008/obama-warner-scenario
That won't happen. Warner has ensured the powers that be that he is 100% committed to his Senate race.
Chris B
03-02-2008, 11:37 PM
That won't happen. Warner has ensured the powers that be that he is 100% committed to his Senate race.
Plus, if Obama is looking for someone who could deliver Virginia, he'll go with Tim Kaine.
powell/rice.
powell/romney
You know I actually heard rumblings of a McCain/Powell ticket. Sadly I'm not joking.
Are people forgetting that Powell was the one who flat out lied to the UN when he made his "Iraq has WMD" speech that made the case for the war in the first place???
The Senator
03-08-2008, 12:50 AM
Frankly, Colin Powell has had enough politicking, considering he's been attacked by Democrats for essentially orchestrating the Iraq war effort and criticized by Republicans for not supporting the Bush administration enough. I'm certain he wouldn't even consider running as anyone's VP.
Frankly, Colin Powell has had enough politicking, considering he's been attacked by Democrats for essentially orchestrating the Iraq war effort and criticized by Republicans for not supporting the Bush administration enough. I'm certain he wouldn't even consider running as anyone's VP.
I highly doubt that it would happen too, but I have heard rumblings. Of course, until McCain actually announces his choice, the rumor mill will continue to churn away.
The Senator
03-08-2008, 01:09 AM
I highly doubt that it would happen too, but I have heard rumblings. Of course, until McCain actually announces his choice, the rumor mill will continue to churn away.
The combined age of a McCain/Powell ticket would be 143. I don't think McCain wants to pick someone as old as he is as his running mate, especially since age is already becoming an issue in this election.
The combined age of a McCain/Powell ticket would be 143. I don't think McCain wants to pick someone as old as he is as his running mate, especially since age is already becoming an issue in this election.
I would agree. I also do not see him picking a woman. And even though I don't think it will happen after the damage of the current one, I keep having thoughts and fears of Jeb Bush...
Nancy Pelosi again rules out Clinton and Obama joint ticket
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/13/pelosi-again-rules-out-joint-ticket/
The Senator
03-14-2008, 02:03 PM
Nancy Pelosi again rules out Clinton and Obama joint ticket
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/13/pelosi-again-rules-out-joint-ticket/
Nancy Pelosi isn't Hillary or Obama, so she really shouldn't be talking... even if this thing goes behind closed doors, she probably won't be consulted...
so her opinion, as true as it may be, doesn't really matter...
lazur
03-14-2008, 02:43 PM
Jeb Bush / Jeb Bush Jr.
But only if it revealed a hidden incestuous nature within the family, and they were both impeached for having a torrid love affair with each other, after which it is also revealed that George Bush Sr. and his wife Laura are actually brother and sister ... thereby finally, for the good of mankind, explaining everything we needed to know about GW.
That'd be gold!
Other than a highly unlikely scenario such as that unfolding, I'd have to go with Lieberman / McCain.
Nancy Pelosi isn't Hillary or Obama, so she really shouldn't be talking... even if this thing goes behind closed doors, she probably won't be consulted...
so her opinion, as true as it may be, doesn't really matter...
I'm really finding this whole thing with Pelosi interesting Jman. I don't understand why she feels the need to publicly rule this out. Alot of people would like to see this combination happen, yet she again has ruled it out. Whether or not it actually does, doesn't really involve her. It's like she has a hidden agenda or something. It's all very odd, if you ask me.
The Senator
03-14-2008, 04:19 PM
I'm really finding this whole thing with Pelosi interesting Jman. I don't understand why she feels the need to publicly rule this out. Alot of people would like to see this combination happen, yet she again has ruled it out. Whether or not it actually does, doesn't really involve her. It's like she has a hidden agenda or something. It's all very odd, if you ask me.
I think Nancy Pelosi wants to be the lone woman at the top. She's enjoying her status as the first female Speaker of the House, and I don't think she wants to be in a position where she'll be overshadowed by the first female president or vice president. That probably isn't the "official" reason, but I think that plays into it.
I think Nancy Pelosi wants to be the lone woman at the top. She's enjoying her status as the first female Speaker of the House, and I don't think she wants to be in a position where she'll be overshadowed by the first female president or vice president. That probably isn't the "official" reason, but I think that plays into it.
I agree and it wouldn't surprise me if that's the case. I would like to not think that way, but everyone wants their own turn in the spotlight! If you know what I mean.
The Senator
03-14-2008, 04:28 PM
I agree and it wouldn't surprise me if that's the case. I would like to not think that way, but everyone wants their own turn in the spotlight! If you know what I mean.
She knows she won't be remembered until there's a Democratic president and a Democratic agenda being pushed in the House. If Hillary becomes President, the focus will be solely on Hillary's goals, and Hillary will be standing next to Pelosi when they announce whatever legislation it is they want to pass... many will look at Pelosi and see nothing but 'that other woman' standing next to her. If Obama is President, though, you certainly have the first African American President in the media spotlight... but Pelosi would still be the top woman in charge, and she'd earn a lot more press coverage than she would if Hillary became President. She might even earn a legacy all her own.
Again, probably not her "official" reason for rejecting the idea, but there are a lot of things which influence how politicians act... and the thirst for power and recognition where it matters is usually the top reason.
She knows she won't be remembered until there's a Democratic president and a Democratic agenda being pushed in the House. If Hillary becomes President, the focus will be solely on Hillary's goals, and Hillary will be standing next to Pelosi when they announce whatever legislation it is they want to pass... many will look at Pelosi and see nothing but 'that other woman' standing next to her. If Obama is President, though, you certainly have the first African American President in the media spotlight... but Pelosi would still be the top woman in charge, and she'd earn a lot more press coverage than she would if Hillary became President. She might even earn a legacy all her own.
Again, probably not her "official" reason for rejecting the idea, but there are a lot of things which influence how politicians act... and the thirst for power and recognition where it matters is usually the top reason.
I couldn't agree with you more Jman.
YsoSerious
03-14-2008, 05:41 PM
My dream ticket
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9046/dentandobamann9.jpg
rdh007
03-14-2008, 05:56 PM
My dream ticket
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9046/dentandobamann9.jpg
I'd vote for that! :up:
And, before someone says it...which one is two-face again?
I'd vote for that! :up:
And, before someone says it...which one is two-face again?
Which one is two face...indeed.
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