What's so bad/differnent about this?

[DieSmiling]

As someone who isn't familiar with the graphic novel, I was wondering if someone could explain the apparent differences between the movie and the comic, and why most fanboys seem to hate on this movie so much. I don't know much about it, but was intrigued by the cast (I like McAvoy, Jolie, and Freeman) and the trailer I saw looked cool.

[Leto]

The film adaptation of Wanted has stripped it of its superhero background story. Instead of taking place in a universe were all of earth's supervillains amassed into a vast army and slaughtered all the world's superheroes and then took control of everything while simultaneously making everyone forget they ever existed, Wanted is a film about evil assassins with Matrix powers.

A lot of Wanted is the same, but the reasoning behind everything has changed.

[chamber-music]

Basically the script writers wrote the movie before actully reading the comic. They seem to read the premise and adapted that before read the whole comic.

[bullets]

that just sucks . why didn't they bother to research this?

[Gotham]

As someone who isn't familiar with the graphic novel, I was wondering if someone could explain the apparent differences between the movie and the comic, and why most fanboys seem to hate on this movie so much. I don't know much about it, but was intrigued by the cast (I like McAvoy, Jolie, and Freeman) and the trailer I saw looked cool.

The reason I dislike this "adaptation" is because they've stripped a unique (and by unique, I mean unique, with the main character being a super villain) comic and used a silly plot (that has been done to death) to make a summer blockbuster.

I'm not saying they could have made money and salvaged the real plot, but don't make the film at all if you can't stay true to the original, well written material.

[ShadowBoxing]

They neutered a novel concept.

[deathshead2]

that just sucks . why didn't they bother to research this?
from whats been said in interview the script was written before the books even came out.

[Hoedowned]

from whats been said in interview the script was written before the books even came out.

Well, they've could have still done a rewrite to make it somewhat resemble the original material.

[Mister Sinister]

"Kill one, save a thousand"

The real Wanted crew would kill a thousand, save one. And then kill the one, just for a laugh.

[November Rain]

is the whole killing superheroes aspect of it really that necessary to throw into things?

[Chaos Bringer]

is the whole killing superheroes aspect of it really that necessary to throw into things?



nope. in fact two other stories are being adapted that you might enjoy;

Snow White and the 3 Dwarfs

The Story of Moses - but this time he's liberating a nation of enslaved snowboarders from Whistler, BC

[The Joker]

is the whole killing superheroes aspect of it really that necessary to throw into things?

Well...seeing as it was a story about super powered villains who killed all the heroes, and would go on alternate dimension crime spree's just for fun...yeah, taking out the entire set up and everyones powers is a pretty stupid change.

[xisaacx]

Well...seeing as it was a story about super powered villains who killed all the heroes, and would go on alternate dimension crime spree's just for fun...yeah, taking out the entire set up and everyones powers is a pretty stupid change.
thank you

[November Rain]

nope. in fact two other stories are being adapted that you might enjoy;

Snow White and the 3 Dwarfs

The Story of Moses - but this time he's liberating a nation of enslaved snowboarders from Whistler, BCmeh, you just sound bitter.

[Jahan]

meh, you just sound bitter.

Imagine Batman but he isnt a costumed detective..he's a nutcase who beats up people with a baseball bat (hence "bat-man").

or

Spiderman: a man inspired by spiders runs around the city catching criminals with his "web" (which is a fishing net)

I must add that I am looking forward to the movie

[DarkSuperman]

My 2 cents...

Wanted the Comic was the most incredible Comic Book experience I ever had in my life.After reading it I felt like punching life in the face and doing/becoming whatever the hell I wanted. I suppose at heart that is the the "Super Villain" philosophy of life. The story was like the realization of a dream, have super powers, steal, have sex with whoever you want, and basically be gods. I was THRILLED that the bad guys won and all they did was have fun and kill stuff.

This movie...

While bearing the same name is completely different from the comic. It's not even a comic book movie anymore. No more Super Villain angle which was the Novel and Innovative Idea that spawned the story in the first place..."What if Super Villains won instead of Heroes" that's the whole freaking purpose behind "Wanted" and now its about assassins who what? Save the world? Ummmmm...wrong.

They just squeezed every bit of originality and cool out of the real "Wanted's" balls until they were only shadows of their former round majesty.

If you couldn't tell already. I'm not happy. :cmad:

[November Rain]

Imagine Batman but he isnt a costumed detective..he's a nutcase who beats up people with a baseball bat (hence "bat-man").

or

Spiderman: a man inspired by spiders runs around the city catching criminals with his "web" (which is a fishing net)

I must add that I am looking forward to the movie
batman is essentially a man insanely driven to commit him self to being a vigilante based on a traumatic life experience

spidey is a man who's selfishness caused the death of a loved one and now fights crime out of guilt with no sense of satisfaction.


everything else about them can come and go, it doesn't make them who they are.

[November Rain]

My 2 cents...

Wanted the Comic was the most incredible Comic Book experience I ever had in my life.After reading it I felt like punching life in the face and doing/becoming whatever the hell I wanted. I suppose at heart that is the the "Super Villain" philosophy of life. The story was like the realization of a dream, have super powers, steal, have sex with whoever you want, and basically be gods. I was THRILLED that the bad guys won and all they did was have fun and kill stuff.

This movie...

While bearing the same name is completely different from the comic. It's not even a comic book movie anymore. No more Super Villain angle which was the Novel and Innovative Idea that spawned the story in the first place..."What if Super Villains won instead of Heroes" that's the whole freaking purpose behind "Wanted" and now its about assassins who what? Save the world? Ummmmm...wrong.

They just squeezed every bit of originality and cool out of the real "Wanted's" balls until they were only shadows of their former round majesty.

If you couldn't tell already. I'm not happy. :cmad:
If you swap supervillains for assassins and realise that they are selling this film from the point that the assassins are good (when in fact they are reallly the bad ones), Then what is the difference?

The assassins have powers just like supervillains do and they are going about killing superheroes and civilians (although it will be unclear to the viewer till the end of the film or half way).

so looking at it from that point of view, the premise of the story remains intact, it's just some fantasy details of it have been grounded in order to not alienate people by throwing in the terms 'superheroes and supervillains', they'll all be probably added as easter eggs but not directly referred to.

[KenK]

If you swap supervillains for assassins and realise that they are selling this film from the point that the assassins are good (when in fact they are reallly the bad ones), Then what is the difference?

Most movies where assassins are the protagonists, the idea is that they're functioning as a necessary evil, thereby allowing some leeway in how the audience views them. The villains of Wanted the comic, are evil for the sake of being evil. Everything they do is for selfish purposes.

The assassins have powers just like supervillains do and they are going about killing superheroes and civilians (although it will be unclear to the viewer till the end of the film or half way).

so looking at it from that point of view, the premise of the story remains intact, it's just some fantasy details of it have been grounded in order to not alienate people by throwing in the terms 'superheroes and supervillains', they'll all be probably added as easter eggs but not directly referred to.

But the comic is meant to serve as a commentary on superheroes and supervillains. It's taking the idea that supervillains never win and saying, what if they did? A lot of this relies heavily on traditional superhero/villain concepts and aesthetics that are just nowhere to be found. They don't even make the slightest bit of effort to match the look of the comic. Yeah, the major characters were obviously modeled after actors, and while they weren't likely to be in the film (although Eminem was in serious consideration early on), would it have killed them to just try and have actors who matched the look of their characters in the comic? Even if you have to make them look like the character after the fact.

Hell, look at Watchmen, and how that film's shaping up. Zack Snyder's already got one impressive comic adaptation under his belt, and in general is just a good filmmaker. Obviously alienating the audience with all the superhero aspects isn't a major concern for this production. Why should it be for Wanted?

[DarkSuperman]

Most movies where assassins are the protagonists, the idea is that they're functioning as a necessary evil, thereby allowing some leeway in how the audience views them. The villains of Wanted the comic, are evil for the sake of being evil. Everything they do is for selfish purposes.



But the comic is meant to serve as a commentary on superheroes and supervillains. It's taking the idea that supervillains never win and saying, what if they did? A lot of this relies heavily on traditional superhero/villain concepts and aesthetics that are just nowhere to be found. They don't even make the slightest bit of effort to match the look of the comic. Yeah, the major characters were obviously modeled after actors, and while they weren't likely to be in the film (although Eminem was in serious consideration early on), would it have killed them to just try and have actors who matched the look of their characters in the comic? Even if you have to make them look like the character after the fact.

Hell, look at Watchmen, and how that film's shaping up. Zack Snyder's already got one impressive comic adaptation under his belt, and in general is just a good filmmaker. Obviously alienating the audience with all the superhero aspects isn't a major concern for this production. Why should it be for Wanted?

Bingo! The whole concept of Wanted is "WHAT IF SUPER VILLAINS WON?!" its not "WHAT IF ASSASSINS WHATEVER..."

SUPER VILLAINS.

There's a big difference between super villains and Assassins. There's absolutely NO super hero allusions in this movie thus it isn't anything like what it's supposed to be. It's basically the equivalent of making Spider-Man a secret agent. IT'S NOT THE SAME. :cmad:

[TheVileOne]

Millar says the movie would never work with the super-villains beating heroes scenario. And he says its still faithful to the idea of a total loser becoming the #1 assassin.

[November Rain]

what the difference in saying 'what if the supervillains won' and saying 'what if the bad guys won?'

supervillains come from a generic long line of bad guys, assassins, murderes, big james bond-esque villains.

narrowing the field down to only showcase it from a supervillain point makes no sense on film, you might as well broaden the horizon to look at bad guys as a whole.

again, I don't see why supervillains in particular are required to drive this film. It's not like the concept of good and evil aren't all around us and one needs specific supervillain archtypes to get the point across.

[November Rain]

What's the difference between lex luthor and any large scale bond villain?

heck on film they are pretty much seen as one and the same.

look at star wars and the matrix, science fiction films that one could interpret of having superhero mythology yet they stick to their own views and get their point across. Both could easily be derived from a superhero/villain concept originated in comics but you get it all without the need for the costumes and code names.

bad guys and still bad guys and good guys are still good guys. Manga does this thing all the time.

Bingo! The whole concept of Wanted is "WHAT IF SUPER VILLAINS WON?!" its not "WHAT IF ASSASSINS WHATEVER..."

SUPER VILLAINS.

There's a big difference between super villains and Assassins. There's absolutely NO super hero allusions in this movie thus it isn't anything like what it's supposed to be. It's basically the equivalent of making Spider-Man a secret agent. IT'S NOT THE SAME. :cmad:

[shinlyle]

Well...a comic about supervillians winning that was turned into a movie about supervillians winning is something that hasn't been done before. We've seen tons of "from the assasin's perspective" movies...."Hitman", anyone? How was that film again? Oh yeah....sucky.

The probelm with this crap-tastic voyage of a film is, they could have called it something else, ANYTHING else, and it would have been another action flick, and there could have STILL been a "Wanted" movie. Instead, they took the first issue of the comic, and wrote out what THEY thought the rest of the bok should be like. It's supposed to be an adaption of the source material, and, as such, it is a miserable f***ing failure.

If the argument is about, "Why is it so bad to lose the superheroes/villians aspect", then the argument is over. The source material is about superheroes/villains. To NOT include the core aspect of the story is to fail at the goal of translating it from the source material. That is the pont of calling it wanted. Spider-Man isn't about an urban kid who belongs to the Spider-Gang, or it wouldn't be Spider-Man. The same rules apply here.

Could this be a good film? In some parallel universe, it may be. Somewhere, people may think that curving bullets and flipping cars off of overpasses unharmed is plausible and cool...but it'll NEVER be a good "WANTED" movie.

Ugh...why is there even a debate about that?!

[The Lizard]

The thing that turns me off about Wanted is the silly, over-the-top cartoonish action sequences. If I see a totally goofy, unbelievable CGI maneuver, it doesn't make me say "whoa, cool", it just makes me laugh at the ridiculousness. I giggled quite a bit while watching the trailer.

[shinlyle]

The thing that turns me off about Wanted is the silly, over-the-top cartoonish action sequences. If I see a totally goofy, unbelievable CGI maneuver, it doesn't make me say "whoa, cool", it just makes me laugh at the ridiculousness. I giggled quite a bit while watching the trailer.

Same here. As if curving bullets wasn't stupid enough as it is, that ability making you rcar capable of doing sideways flips and not blowing a tire is just ridiculous...

[FatalEnergy]

If theres one movie that deserves the "____ in name only" title, its this movie.

[Rac]

I haven't read the comic, but I prefer James McAvoy over Eminem. :o

(Might sound ridicilous, but that's the reason I've avoided reading it. And that Millar wanted Eminem to be in the movie.)

[MaskedManJRK]

I haven't read the comic, but I prefer James McAvoy over Eminem. :o

(Might sound ridicilous, but that's the reason I've avoided reading it. And that Millar wanted Eminem to be in the movie.)

No, it's not ridicilous at all...it's retarded. :o

[Rac]

It's also retarded to make your fictional character to look like Eminem. :o

[shinlyle]

Well, good news, Wall-E, Pixar's latest offering, will be debut the same weekend as "Wanted". That means there will be at least one good movie to see that weekend, and hopefully, it'll keep Wanted at the number 2 spot of lower for the weekend.

And yeah....not reading a GN because the lead character was modelled after a guy you don't like IS pretty retarded.

[Rac]

Well, I read Wanted now. It was okay. The idea was fun, but I didn't quite like the way they made it. Dunno if Millar was trying to make "the new Watchmen" or something as revolutionary, but this is not the way to do it.

And for fcks sake; JG Jones even draw the fcking earrings that Eminem have to Wesley! Wtf! Oh, and Halle Berry and Tommy Lee Jones were there too. Yippee-Ki-Yay mofos...

I understand the frustrasion and pain of you (the fans of the comic) towards this movie. If I'd have loved the comic, I'd be pissed too! But to as someone who thought the comic was okay, the movie actually looks better... You can crucify me now. But you know, they shouldn't have even gone through all the trouble bying the rights to the comic if they weren't even gonna make it resemble the source material.

[Chaos Bringer]

meh, you just sound bitter.

yea? you sure? what was your 1st clue ?

i like my properties to retain the original concepts they were created with.

[Lobo]

Well, I read Wanted now. It was okay. The idea was fun, but I didn't quite like the way they made it. Dunno if Millar was trying to make "the new Watchmen" or something as revolutionary, but this is not the way to do it.

And for fcks sake; JG Jones even draw the fcking earrings that Eminem have to Wesley! Wtf! Oh, and Halle Berry and Tommy Lee Jones were there too. Yippee-Ki-Yay mofos...

I understand the frustrasion and pain of you (the fans of the comic) towards this movie. If I'd have loved the comic, I'd be pissed too! But to as someone who thought the comic was okay, the movie actually looks better... You can crucify me now. But you know, they shouldn't have even gone through all the trouble bying the rights to the comic if they weren't even gonna make it resemble the source material.

As someone who just recently read Wanted as well i wholeheartedly agree with the above

[Odin's Lapdog]

Well...a comic about supervillians winning that was turned into a movie about supervillians winning is something that hasn't been done before. We've seen tons of "from the assasin's perspective" movies...."Hitman", anyone? How was that film again? Oh yeah....sucky.

The probelm with this crap-tastic voyage of a film is, they could have called it something else, ANYTHING else, and it would have been another action flick, and there could have STILL been a "Wanted" movie. Instead, they took the first issue of the comic, and wrote out what THEY thought the rest of the bok should be like. It's supposed to be an adaption of the source material, and, as such, it is a miserable f***ing failure.

If the argument is about, "Why is it so bad to lose the superheroes/villians aspect", then the argument is over. The source material is about superheroes/villains. To NOT include the core aspect of the story is to fail at the goal of translating it from the source material. That is the pont of calling it wanted. Spider-Man isn't about an urban kid who belongs to the Spider-Gang, or it wouldn't be Spider-Man. The same rules apply here.

Could this be a good film? In some parallel universe, it may be. Somewhere, people may think that curving bullets and flipping cars off of overpasses unharmed is plausible and cool...but it'll NEVER be a good "WANTED" movie.

Ugh...why is there even a debate about that?!

Have you not considered that 'supervillains/assassins just doing it for the kicks' could be the twist

you are lead into believing they work for a government organisation taking out bad guys and this dude is required to take out the greatest of operatives on the other sides and so on and so forth and then you realise they are actually working for the other side and the main dude firstly doesn't care but relishes in it.

i don't see what is wrong with having this approach of having the unveling of them being bad for the sake of it being a twist the audience doesn't expect.

[The Lizard]

If theres one movie that deserves the "____ in name only" title, its this movie.

heh - "WINO"

[Soup]

If anyone wants to know why so many of us are pissed about this movie... just go read the ****ing comic. Read it. Then ask again if you're that stupid.

[shinlyle]

Have you not considered that 'supervillains/assassins just doing it for the kicks' could be the twist

you are lead into believing they work for a government organisation taking out bad guys and this dude is required to take out the greatest of operatives on the other sides and so on and so forth and then you realise they are actually working for the other side and the main dude firstly doesn't care but relishes in it.

i don't see what is wrong with having this approach of having the unveling of them being bad for the sake of it being a twist the audience doesn't expect.

That would be fine....if the comic had been about assassins, that would be fine, but it wasn't. It wa sabout effing supervillians running the world and destroying or negating all of the superheroes.

If they wanted to make a movie about assassins killing for the hell of it, then they should have just called it something else, made the movie, and no one would have cared. They based it off of a comic...so it should be LIKE THE COMIC.

Ugh....I have a headache.:csad:

[Odin's Lapdog]

you can't use that 'based off a comic line' to justify your claims, all movies deviate from their comic book sources.

I mean since when were the terms 'superheroes' and 'supervillains' used seriously in a comic book movie adaptation?

If the avengers or the sinister six were to ever form on camera, they wouldn't address them selves as a group of heroes or supervillains, they'd be crimefighters with a common goal or outlaws all done in by spiderman.

What's wrong with these guys calling themselves assassins. YOu and I get what they are, it doesn't have to be spelt out.

If they wish to 'pretend' they are doing good and then the twist is that they are actually bad, then that's better story telling to get in the average movie-watcher.

I mean I haven't read the comic but I don't believe the comic would start off straight away with the knowledge that the characters we are reading about are infact bad guys....or superheroes...

[Odin's Lapdog]

Perhaps I just don't get why comic book fans are attached to titles.

If they made a story that was essentially spiderman but wrapped up in other jargon then i'd still see it as a spiderman story, just like the matrix is essentially a star wars fantasy-esque story or at least very typical of a manga story where the protagonist.

[shinlyle]

Perhaps I just don't get why comic book fans are attached to titles.

Well...we read them....we like them...we want to see them translated into another media accurately WITHOUT being completely turned into somthing else.

If Spider-Man had been about a guy who was murdered by his boss, only to be brought back by a magical spider, then becomes a confident hero who seeked out to avenge his own death, it wouldn't be Spider-Man. In fact, that's what they did to Catwoman in her supposed movie. How did that work out? Not too well.

Granted, "Wanted" isn't isn't as well known as Spider-Man or even Catwoman, but it doesn't mean that it's fans aren't just as dedicated to seeing something that at least resembles the original story....which, this crap-heap of car-flipping, bullet-curving, ridiculousness is not.

[Gotham]

I've had the graphic novel for some time now, and I busted it out this evening and finished it in one sitting.

Well, I liked the novel for what it was, but in the end, it was decent. I'll still see the film.

[Odin's Lapdog]

Well...we read them....we like them...we want to see them translated into another media accurately WITHOUT being completely turned into somthing else.

If Spider-Man had been about a guy who was murdered by his boss, only to be brought back by a magical spider, then becomes a confident hero who seeked out to avenge his own death, it wouldn't be Spider-Man. In fact, that's what they did to Catwoman in her supposed movie. How did that work out? Not too well.

Granted, "Wanted" isn't isn't as well known as Spider-Man or even Catwoman, but it doesn't mean that it's fans aren't just as dedicated to seeing something that at least resembles the original story....which, this crap-heap of car-flipping, bullet-curving, ridiculousness is not.
The changes you adress aren't even that big...

they've swapped the term supervillain for assassin and marketed the film so the fact they are actually evil comes in as a twist.

The concept of the story is still intact.

Why is that a hard thing to come by. It's no more a big deal than not having the x-men in costume in singer's version or harry not being the second green goblin in spiderman 3.

[shinlyle]

The changes you adress aren't even that big...

they've swapped the term supervillain for assassin and marketed the film so the fact they are actually evil comes in as a twist.

That's like saying that we've changed Spider-Man from a superhero to a contract killer...there's a big honkin' difference.


The concept of the story is still intact.

Why is that a hard thing to come by. It's no more a big deal than not having the x-men in costume in singer's version or harry not being the second green goblin in spiderman 3.

Changing a costume isn't as big a deal as changing the entire concept of the story, which this film has done. Also, you're defending a movie tha features a Dodge Viper flipping off of an overpass and onto the top of a tractor trailer...think about it, man.

This movie has characters whose names are the same as the comic characters, and that's about it. This movie is WINO (Wanted In Name Only), and nothing more.

[Symbiotica]

Lapdog: The concept of the story is still intact.

The concept of "Wanted" is completely GONE, you mean.

I don't think some of you are capable of comprehending the concept upon which "Wanted" is based. Not that the general public is either, which is why a film based upon it was a bad idea, right out of the gate.

What they've done is the metaphorical equivalent of replacing a Bruce Lee-type with a nine-year-old girl who has taken a few cheerleading classes and saying "Well they both do physical things, so what's the difference? Each is as good as the other one, stop whining!"

Uh..... there's a big difference.

Sinister: "Kill one, save a thousand"

The real Wanted crew would kill a thousand, save one. And then kill the one, just for a laugh.

Somebody gets it.

[shinlyle]

The concept of "Wanted" is completely GONE, you mean.

I don't think some of you are capable of comprehending the concept upon which "Wanted" is based. Not that the general public is either, which is why a film based upon it was a bad idea, right out of the gate.

What they've done is the metaphorical equivalent of replacing a Bruce Lee-type with a nine-year-old girl who has taken a few cheerleading classes and saying "Well they both do physical things, so what's the difference? Each is as good as the other one, stop whining!"

Uh..... there's a big difference.



Somebody gets it.

Preach it!:woot:

[Colossus24]

I mean I haven't read the comic but I don't believe the comic would start off straight away with the knowledge that the characters we are reading about are infact bad guys....or superheroes...

Ok you haven't read it, so your opinion doesn't mean much in regards to the translation of the story. And yes, in the comic you start out with the knowledge that they are bad guys. I mean he goes out and blows people away who either annoyed or were mean to him before he realized he was a badass. Not a lot of ambiguity there.

[shinlyle]

Ok you haven't read it, so your opinion doesn't mean much in regards to the translation of the story. And yes, in the comic you start out with the knowledge that they are bad guys. I mean he goes out and blows people away who either annoyed or were mean to him before he realized he was a badass. Not a lot of ambiguity there.

Yep. The whole first half of the story is about him becoming a bad guy. The second half is about him killing other bad guyf. The last page reminds you that he is, in fact, the most evil of the bad guys.

[November Rain]

Right I bought myself a copy of it and the plot for me basically comes down to people's desires....

Old Killer wanted to be a father to the son he abbandoned
Wesley's Mom wanted her son to not go down that route
Wesley wanted to have purpose to his life
Richter wanted chaos
The professor wanted order

The whole superhero/supervillain aspect of it is really irrelevant and only just throws a bunch of easter egg references to other superheros in it.

Take that all out and the points i'm mentioned is pretty much what i listed earlier is the story. I mean it's not even that well put together with a fairly loose plot.

I still don't see why the non-superhero thing is that big a deal.

[November Rain]

Yep. The whole first half of the story is about him becoming a bad guy. The second half is about him killing other bad guyf. The last page reminds you that he is, in fact, the most evil of the bad guys.
He wasn't evil at all, He was just happy to realise that he had meaning to his life. and was somebody.

The same kinda rush you get with young hollywood suddenly 'making it' in the industry and going completely outlandish.

I mean ultimately he's moved up to the top five by wiping out a lot of peeps. Aren't the mandarin/emperor and adam one still alive. It's not like he ran anything or had the brains to pull off any types of scheme, he's still pretty much just a hitman at the end of the day. A very good one but that doesn't make him evil...

his doubts about killing that police woman before the crap started is still somewhat unresolved.

[seblopez]

Right I bought myself a copy of it and the plot for me basically comes down to people's desires....
which story doesn't? how is that a description of the plot?

The whole superhero/supervillain aspect of it is really irrelevant and only just throws a bunch of easter egg references to other superheros in it. I disagree. If you take away the fact that the bad guys are in control, and they have the power to do whatever they want, you are left with yet another deadbeat-getting-a-new-hand-dealt we've already seen a million times.

I mean it's not even that well put together with a fairly loose plot.Here I might agree. This no Watchmen, no Dark Knight. This novel is mediocre at best. I know that should be no argument to butcher the story in an adaptation, but it certainly makes it less of an issue. Hell, the movie might even improve upon the original.

[November Rain]

why did you take out my plot description from your quote. You took it out and made a point about my description being too generic :confused:

Bad guys being in charge has nothing to do with superheroes. They've swapped supervillains for assassins yet they could have easily taken out all of the similar people who had 'abilities' back in the day and run things from underground. The fact they they are superheroes or need to have costumes is pretty irrelevant to the plot which comes down to those five or so descriptions you left out of my post.


As for the story, people have been going up in arms so i thought i would give it the benefit of the doubt and it'd be a fantastic read but **** that, it's just an excuse to throw swearing in every other second, the fox sounds actually retarded and is a wasted character. Development of anyone apart from 2-3 characters is pretty much non-existant and is based on our existing knowledge of other heroes to place the pieces together.

It's novel and a 'cool' change of pace but the whole 'what if the superheroes lost' thing has really been covered in other mediums. I mean ultimately the matrix has that 'what if the humans lost this big war and everything you are living is a lie and has been covered up by the evil machines', It wouldn't take a genius to make the comic leap. Heck Millar keeps going on about how his bro gave him the idea when they were kids, KIDS.

I mean there weren't any real superhero costumes in the comic and there really wasn't any need for any either. Their ultimate purpose was for easter eggs, especially dc easter eggs.

It's not like the mafia film industry hasn't displayed an aura of underground crime secretly running a city before. it's not like they haven't taken a young hero without prospects and made them the 'one' before.Nothing about this novel really stands out except for the superhero angle but that's not even an essential part of the story.

meh..

[seblopez]

I'm sorry, but your description was too generic... X want Y, Z wants W.... every character worth reading about in any story wants something
I do agree with you on the novel. Character development is almost non-existent, and what little exists is utterly predictable. The way the bad guys are taken out is borderline stupid.

Like you said yourself, 'Nothing about this novel really stands out except for the superhero angle'. In Matrix the machines are not really evil, they are just ensuring their survival. But these are really bad guys, they have powers and there is nobody outside their organization that can oppose them, thus the conflict must come from within.I don't think this is irrelevant. Now, is it enough to make the story stand on its own? don't know, maybe not.

[Odin's Lapdog]

well the comic was called 'wanted' and it's ultimately about people who are striving to get it or keep it. The novelty of it is just that it's villains who have this authority because you normally don't see supervillains in this position because their threat is neutralised.

I don't believe my descriptions are infact vague and I believe they correctly some up the tone and backbone to the story. It's not like it's a situation based story where the main characters have to adapt to new ways of being.

[Sun_Down]

The new trailer definitely shows that they've at least got a grasp on Wesley's life/training, his frustration and the general "**** the world" vibe of the comics. Personally, I don't think the comic itself is all that special and I don't really mind that they've taken it in a different direction.

[Shifty]

The thing that turns me off about Wanted is the silly, over-the-top cartoonish action sequences. If I see a totally goofy, unbelievable CGI maneuver, it doesn't make me say "whoa, cool", it just makes me laugh at the ridiculousness. I giggled quite a bit while watching the trailer.

Same. I have no desire to see this film but the comic sounds interesting and I would read that.

[SatEL]

Can anyone tell me what Wesley's powers are in the comic and in general what the powers of everyone is, also do they fight with guns in the comic?

[November Rain]

wesley has perfect aim, like his father. the rest have generic superhero powers and characteristic traits similar to a lot of dc universe villains but with their own twist.

[SatEL]

wesley has perfect aim, like his father. the rest have generic superhero powers and characteristic traits similar to a lot of dc universe villains but with their own twist.

Can you PM me some details about the whole going on of the comic, at the end is Wesley the most powerful superhero, what are fox powers in the comic.

[November Rain]

just read about it on wikipedia dude, or buy the comic.

[nocomics]

Same here. As if curving bullets wasn't stupid enough as it is, that ability making you rcar capable of doing sideways flips and not blowing a tire is just ridiculous...
Just think of Shoot'em UP on crack :) this is what this movie basically was..As I stated in another thread, I never read the comics so I basically did'nt know what was what,and who was who..Maybe it was for the best they did'nt use the superhero/supervillain scenerio. They made it into a somewhat more believable plot line,and characters...to a certain extent.
Far as writing the movie before the comics came out? Not sure,but far as rewriting the material after to fit the comics,well I guess it was'nt finacially smart or something they wanted to do...
Anywho, I enjoyed the movie overall regardless of what was or was'nt in the movie...sometimes its good not to read the source material,then ur expetations are set too high :)

[Papa Burgundy]

yea it was cheesy and the main character is freakin annoying for the first hour, and unconvicing as a assassin towards the end. jolie was pretty good though.

[Darthkush]

i'm glad i didn't read the comic first(which sounds waymore interesting to be honset) and yet...i really like the flick. It was very entertaining, rock em' sock em' action flick. I do want to read the comic anyway for comparison sake but I think it's best that if you're an fan,you stay away and just go if you're looking for an action flick.

[M.O.Steel]

while i haven't read the comics, and it seems pretty unanimous that the comic vision is better, i don't think these guys were good, including the main character. they are evil people that kill people, and they kill each other and betray each other. the main character is really a dark character, with a slightly good side to him. i mean, they are smiling after they kill their target.

that being said, i hate it when they claim to adapt a story but then do nothing of the story. if it was so difficult to translate, then don't translate. if you have a good script with cool action sequences, call it a different movie. don't call it wanted.

i mean, this would have been no different than if the new will smith movie was called superman. the essence of superman is there, but the costume is different, the guy looks different, and just about everything else is different.

[Gilpesh]

i'm glad i didn't read the comic first(which sounds waymore interesting to be honset) and yet...i really like the flick. It was very entertaining, rock em' sock em' action flick. I do want to read the comic anyway for comparison sake but I think it's best that if you're an fan,you stay away and just go if you're looking for an action flick.

Yeah, exactly what I tell all my friends. Although I messed up the order and saw it after reading it. So I appreciated the take and all the action that shut my brain off and dazzled me with pretty lights... but advised people to see the movie if they want THEN read it.

Also, those changes didn't even help the movie that much. Friend of mine saw it (with no knowledge of comics and that it was an adaptation) and said it blew.

[goh78]

My take...I read the comic last month and saw the movie last night. I really feel like I read something else called "Wanted" because what I read and what I saw are completely different.

"Looms of Fate", Rat-bombs with peanut butter, curving bullets, wax baths, textile mills, blah blah blah. Like many are saying, Wanted in name only.

But also like others are saying, maybe I would have liked it more if I hadn't read the comic, but there's no way to know that now I guess.

[The Jester]

ok, so i never read the comic, but i absolutely loved Wanted.

It reminded me alot like Fight Club in some ways.

So yeah, soon id like to read the comic and no matter what i think about it when im done, it wont be able to affect how i view the movie, which was awesome.

[Abstract]

The film is different from the graphic novel for several reasons.
1. Supervillians have been changed to Assassins (Yes, there is a difference. Would you say that the villain in a Bond film employed assassins or supervillains?)
2. The Supervillains of the novel are secretly running the world, while the assassins of the film are protecting and shaping the world for the benefit mankind by obeying the dictates of "fate"
3. The antagonist of the novel has been replaced by an entirely different character, lessening the story in my eyes and to other fans of the novel as well.
4. The ending is totally different. Owing to the changes made to the antagonist and Sloan.

"WINO" is not the same as the graphic novel Wanted.

[xisaacx]

theres a difference between supervillains and assassins


like there is a difference between The Joker and the Shadowmaster(double dragon)

I mean hell if thats the logic why not put the shadowmaster in the batman movie, instead of the joker...a villain is a villain right? yeah shut up

[redhawk23]

had they made this exact movie, without selling it as an adaption of Wanted, and with a different title, this movie would have been loved. I get why people are angry aobut it, but honestly i thought it was a bada$$ in and of itself