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b24
02-18-2008, 04:08 PM
my ONLY problem with superman movies have been portrayel of lex

they make him tooo cartooooooooonish i mean he is the guy who is going against the most strongest person on earth and yet they showed him in Superman movies goofing around making lame jokes

i hated gene hackman's version and although in SR kevin spacy downplayed some goofiness but still he was inspired by genek hackman's version of lex

IMO MR is doing much better job in prorayel of lex

he is more serious and complex and also more faithfull to comic version of lex

Mikelus
02-18-2008, 05:48 PM
Agreed, the movies version is just too campy, although in Smallville there are some inconsistencies (Lex's security is a joke), but overall, is more sophisticated and interesting.

Lemaris
02-18-2008, 05:52 PM
With all due respect to Gene Hackman and Kevin Spacey, not only do I like Rosenbaum's Lex more I actually liked John Shea's Lex more than the movies.

Serene
02-18-2008, 06:11 PM
Yes.

Lex Luthor
02-18-2008, 06:14 PM
With all due respect to Gene Hackman and Kevin Spacey, not only do I like Rosenbaum's Lex more I actually liked John Shea's Lex more than the movies.
I'll second that. :up:

04nbod
02-18-2008, 06:26 PM
When Lex is bad yes i prefer rosenbaum to all of them. When Lex is sappy (see Lexana) no i would take the movie versions

SamuraiSon6
02-18-2008, 06:32 PM
to be totally honest, i never liked Lex as a villain at all until i started watching smallville, i get upset when i watch the movies and Lex is so campy, MR is an amazing portrayal of Lex that we have never seen in film

M.O.Steel
02-18-2008, 06:34 PM
the original lex from the reeve movies is actually pretty good if you take out the silly clothes and the wig. and otis. But his interactions with superman were pretty good IMO. But yeah i like the lex that thinks he's better than superman...like Lex Luthor MOS, and this smallville.

Lemaris
02-18-2008, 06:41 PM
the original lex from the reeve movies is actually pretty good if you take out the silly clothes and the wig. and otis. But his interactions with superman were pretty good IMO. But yeah i like the lex that thinks he's better than superman...like Lex Luthor MOS, and this smallville.

Yes Otis and we can't forget Miss Teschmacher:hehe:

SpideyVille
02-18-2008, 06:59 PM
I enjoyed Hackman as Lex, but at times it seemed hard to accept that version as "Superman's greatest arch-nemesis", esp now compared to SV's version of Lex. But I agree, Lex and Superman's interaction in the movie were pretty good.

The Incredible Hulk
02-18-2008, 07:54 PM
Hackman and Spacey are great actors, but they both did an outdated version of the character who doesnt have much depth. Rosenbaum's Lex isnt just bad for the sake of being bad, he's got actual motivations behind doing what he does. For that reason alone, I think his Lex is by far the best.

avidreader
02-18-2008, 07:54 PM
I think Gene Hackman's Lex was a great character, it was the people around him that made him look stupid.

triplet
02-18-2008, 08:21 PM
Yes.

QFT


:D

Prison Mike
02-18-2008, 08:31 PM
most definitely Rosenbaum's Lex is the best. Hackman and Spacey portray a campy Lex.

Lord Doom
02-18-2008, 08:33 PM
Yeah, Smallville's Lex is one of the only reasons I still watch the show. He's a good actor.

SpideyVille
02-18-2008, 08:40 PM
All three can make Lex funny with little jokes here and there, but SV Lex ha that more dangerous/villainous side that is needed with the character. This Lex looks like he'll pull a gun on you and shoot if you piss him off, but Hackman and Spacey both seemed like the most they would do is yell at you.

Lord Doom
02-18-2008, 08:43 PM
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n310/jennalynnegarrett/Lex_Luthor.jpg
I just felt like posting this. Please don't ask why.

SpideyVille
02-18-2008, 08:56 PM
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n310/jennalynnegarrett/Lex_Luthor.jpg
I just felt like posting this. Please don't ask why.

:lmao:
That reminds of the line that Chloe had in Rush, "You know, I always wondered. For a boy who has all the money in the world, you'd think he could afford a good toupee."

Lord Doom
02-18-2008, 08:58 PM
All three can make Lex funny with little jokes here and there, but SV Lex ha that more dangerous/villainous side that is needed with the character. This Lex looks like he'll pull a gun on you and shoot if you piss him off, but Hackman and Spacey both seemed like the most they would do is yell at you.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/Russell1H/luthor.jpg





You're right.http://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

M.O.Steel
02-18-2008, 08:58 PM
Superman TM LEx had stuff that worked and stuff that didn't. Singer, for some stupid reason, actually took the stuff that didn't work and emphasized it even more, but covered with a dark curtain.

Hackman's lex could put a bullet in anyone also, just watch the last scene of superman with the kryptonite.

My favorite incarnation of lex is a graphic novel called Lex Luthor: Man of Steel. I highly recommend the read. very short, but really cool IMO. in that book Lex honestly believes that he is doing everything for the good of mankind and superman is the real villian. They touched it a little bit during the NAMAN/native indian story arc, with the episode ending with lex saying, "a man with the strength of many men, can fly, and shoots fire out of his eyes, sounds like a monster to me. You ever think ________ is really the hero". That specific line made him lex luthor

Bruce_Wayne29
02-18-2008, 09:18 PM
Unquestionably. Rosenbaum's Lex is the best live action version ever done of the character.

MaskedManJRK
02-18-2008, 09:26 PM
I think Hackman and Spacey did great with the material they were given and would have played a great Luthor--the problem was having retarded henchmen and plots that did not work for an archnemesis.

I think acting-wise, they do a bit better then Rosenbaum, but that's probably more because of their expereience rather than Rosenbaum's talent, though.

Character-wise, Smallville's is definately better.

Lighthouse
02-18-2008, 09:44 PM
Whats funny is that not only do I think Rosenbaum is the best Lex, but he isn't even fully Lex yet. I think he could play an even better Lex than the one he's doing now.

SpideyVille
02-18-2008, 09:50 PM
I think Hackman and Spacey did great with the material they were given and would have played a great Luthor--the problem was having retarded henchmen and plots that did not work for an archnemesis.

I think acting-wise, they do a bit better then Rosenbaum, but that's probably more because of their expereience rather than Rosenbaum's talent, though.

Character-wise, Smallville's is definately better.

Isn't it ironic how Hackman and Spacey are actors better known for their performances in strong, serious roles but play a campy LL, yet Rosenbaum, who has done more roles as a comedic character is actually playing a serious, and more threatening LL.:p

But what makes me like SV Lex is that he seems more badass, taking no **** from anyone as opposed to the others. Like if you compare Lex's interactions with Zod in SII and Lex with Bizarro in the season premiere, Hackman's version knew what power they had so he tried to let them boss him around so long as he was safe and get what he wanted at the end. Yet on SV, he knew Bizzaro was the phantom and what it was capable of so even though he agreed to help Bizarro, he later tries to defeat him on his own. It just shows that this Lex is more like the Lex that is supposed to be Superman's greatest enemy, not the one who runs a hides until Superman is defeated and hopes the other villains are nice to him.

M.O.Steel
02-18-2008, 10:37 PM
Isn't it ironic how Hackman and Spacey are actors better known for their performances in strong, serious roles but play a campy LL, yet Rosenbaum, who has done more roles as a comedic character is actually playing a serious, and more threatening LL.:p

But what makes me like SV Lex is that he seems more badass, taking no **** from anyone as opposed to the others. Like if you compare Lex's interactions with Zod in SII and Lex with Bizarro in the season premiere, Hackman's version knew what power they had so he tried to let them boss him around so long as he was safe and get what he wanted at the end. Yet on SV, he knew Bizzaro was the phantom and what it was capable of so even though he agreed to help Bizarro, he later tries to defeat him on his own. It just shows that this Lex is more like the Lex that is supposed to be Superman's greatest enemy, not the one who runs a hides until Superman is defeated and hopes the other villains are nice to him.

I think it's actaully more naive of lex to think he can defeat the phantom head-on. i think hackman would let the others take care of business, and then sweep in for the kill. I think that's actually the smart of the two paths. Lex does have a giant ego, but he is also super-smart. I think he would have taken brainiacs approach from siren, where he pretends to be on one side, but in reality, he's just playing both of them like pawns. I think lex knows that he wouldn't win against bizzaro, so have superman take care of him, let them get rid of each other.

Ultimate_Superman
02-19-2008, 06:14 AM
With all due respect to Gene Hackman and Kevin Spacey, not only do I like Rosenbaum's Lex more I actually liked John Shea's Lex more than the movies.Agreed although I think Shea's Lex could have blown them all away had he come back for the second season.

Mandrill
02-19-2008, 08:01 AM
The main problem with movie Lex is his motivation its always about land.3 movies STM ,S2 and SR his main concern was getting land for cash.Getting rid of Superman was just a sidetrack.

b24
02-19-2008, 01:08 PM
My favorite incarnation of lex is a graphic novel called Lex Luthor: Man of Steel. I highly recommend the read. very short, but really cool IMO. in that book Lex honestly believes that he is doing everything for the good of mankind and superman is the real villian. They touched it a little bit during the NAMAN/native indian story arc, with the episode ending with lex saying, "a man with the strength of many men, can fly, and shoots fire out of his eyes, sounds like a monster to me. You ever think ________ is really the hero". That specific line made him lex luthor[/quote]

i see smallville's version inspired by this MOS lex thats in smalville lex also belive he is doing good for mankind

and he considers "aliens" threat

Ultimate_Superman
02-19-2008, 01:36 PM
My favorite incarnation of lex is a graphic novel called Lex Luthor: Man of Steel. I highly recommend the read. very short, but really cool IMO. in that book Lex honestly believes that he is doing everything for the good of mankind and superman is the real villian. They touched it a little bit during the NAMAN/native indian story arc, with the episode ending with lex saying, "a man with the strength of many men, can fly, and shoots fire out of his eyes, sounds like a monster to me. You ever think ________ is really the hero". That specific line made him lex luthor

i see smallville's version inspired by this MOS lex thats in smalville lex also belive he is doing good for mankind

and he considers "aliens" threat[/quote]That is how SV Lex is some what but that is really how The Batman's Lex is if you watch the Batman/Superman story.

M.O.Steel
02-19-2008, 02:06 PM
My favorite incarnation of lex is a graphic novel called Lex Luthor: Man of Steel. I highly recommend the read. very short, but really cool IMO. in that book Lex honestly believes that he is doing everything for the good of mankind and superman is the real villian. They touched it a little bit during the NAMAN/native indian story arc, with the episode ending with lex saying, "a man with the strength of many men, can fly, and shoots fire out of his eyes, sounds like a monster to me. You ever think ________ is really the hero". That specific line made him lex luthor

i see smallville's version inspired by this MOS lex thats in smalville lex also belive he is doing good for mankind

and he considers "aliens" threat

you might want to fix it cause it looks like you wrote that whole thing instead of just the bottom part.

M.O.Steel
02-19-2008, 02:08 PM
i see smallville's version inspired by this MOS lex thats in smalville lex also belive he is doing good for mankind

and he considers "aliens" threat

That is how SV Lex is some what but that is really how The Batman's Lex is if you watch the Batman/Superman story.

We were just talking about which lex is the best. i'm not saying the MOS version inspired smallville, or that it is the definitive one, its just my favorite version.

Mike_D202
02-19-2008, 02:13 PM
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n28/MikeD202/killsuperman6sr6su.jpg

Ultimate_Superman
02-19-2008, 02:22 PM
We were just talking about which lex is the best. i'm not saying the MOS version inspired smallville, or that it is the definitive one, its just my favorite version.I am not saying he did. The person I quoted messed up in his posting which in turn messed up my quote. I am agreeing with you that Lex Luthor: M.O.S is a great way to view Lex and I was saying like the poster I quoted that Lex from SV is alot like him in that he believes he is doing everything for the good of man kind in terms of aliens.

Vindicator
02-19-2008, 02:46 PM
MR from Smallville does the best Lex, partly due to talent, but mostly because his character is a 3-D representation. All of the films depict a Lex who is 2-D, not properly motivated, and not intelligent enough. I think we must also lay blame to improper direction, as these men probably wanted to infuse more into their characters – considering past projects.

Lex from Smallville has been given a clear history and clear motivations regarding all of his actions. And it’s always more interesting to watch a character fall into darkness, rather than a character who has already fallen. I imagine, the creators of the series did read “Lex Luthor: Man of Steel”. (In fact, I can’t wait to read it myself). I think Smallville really understood that for any actor to play the villain convincingly, that actor cannot see him/herself as evil or villainous. It’ll never read on camera.

But it’s difficult to judge in the end, because Smallville is about Lex’s downfall and Clark’s rise to greatness. The Superman movies are about Superman and his journey. Lex is never really part of the story-line, not really, not enough.

SpideyVille
02-19-2008, 04:25 PM
MR from Smallville does the best Lex, partly due to talent, but mostly because his character is a 3-D representation. All of the films depict a Lex who is 2-D, not properly motivated, and not intelligent enough. I think we must also lay blame to improper direction, as these men probably wanted to infuse more into their characters – considering past projects.

Lex from Smallville has been given a clear history and clear motivations regarding all of his actions. And it’s always more interesting to watch a character fall into darkness, rather than a character who has already fallen. I imagine, the creators of the series did read “Lex Luthor: Man of Steel”. (In fact, I can’t wait to read it myself). I think Smallville really understood that for any actor to play the villain convincingly, that actor cannot see him/herself as evil or villainous. It’ll never read on camera.

But it’s difficult to judge in the end, because Smallville is about Lex’s downfall and Clark’s rise to greatness. The Superman movies are about Superman and his journey. Lex is never really part of the story-line, not really, not enough.

Excellent points throughout :up:
Now that i think about it, Hackman's version wasn't really an 'evil' character. He was more like a theft or a con artist that uses his wits to conceive a plan where he won't get caught. but he wasn't really evil. Aside from his attempt to destroy the California fault line, he wasn't as bent on hurting innocent people as he was on getting rid of Superman. Unlike SV Lex where we see him capturing meteor freaks and having them experimented on. He's just an early Lex but he's already showing his evil roots.

And like you said, he's more of a 2-D character that wasn't developed as much as he could have been, and i guess that's why i think he fails in comparison towards SV Lex,esp when he claims to be the "greatest criminal mind" when there really any proof or background on this. While we see Lex on SV and how he's changed over the past 7 years.

darkrayaelaine
02-19-2008, 05:35 PM
the smallville version of lex is the better one in my opinion.

M.O.Steel
02-19-2008, 06:04 PM
I am not saying he did. The person I quoted messed up in his posting which in turn messed up my quote. I am agreeing with you that Lex Luthor: M.O.S is a great way to view Lex and I was saying like the poster I quoted that Lex from SV is alot like him in that he believes he is doing everything for the good of man kind in terms of aliens.

oh ok, my mistake. yeah b24 needs to fix his quote.

it's one of my favorite books. i really like it also.

Lex Luthor
02-19-2008, 06:08 PM
Agreed although I think Shea's Lex could have blown them all away had he come back for the second season.
Yeah, Shea should have been brought back for more than just one episode in the second season. And although, he finally got the familiar bald look we know so well, having him return for simply one episode following Seasn 1 clearly wasnt enough for a character like Lex.

Prison Mike
02-19-2008, 08:11 PM
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n28/MikeD202/killsuperman6sr6su.jpg

:hehe:

user123456789
02-20-2008, 03:16 PM
my ONLY problem with superman movies have been portrayel of lex

they make him tooo cartooooooooonish i mean he is the guy who is going against the most strongest person on earth and yet they showed him in Superman movies goofing around making lame jokes

i hated gene hackman's version and although in SR kevin spacy downplayed some goofiness but still he was inspired by genek hackman's version of lex

IMO MR is doing much better job in prorayel of lex

he is more serious and complex and also more faithfull to comic version of lex
two completely diff interpretations

i love rosen's better

its also nice to have 120+ episodes to develop your character vs a 2hr movie

amazingfantasy15
02-20-2008, 04:13 PM
The main problem with the movie Lex's is the plan, as others have said, it's all about land, not something really evil. Smallville's Lex is about becoming evil. You could see glimspes of evil in Kevin's Spacey's Lex and I think if Singer didn't feel the need to use the first Superman plot, Spacey would've done really well. When he's explaining his dislike for Superman, it's a lot like Smallville's Lex, when he's attacking Superman on the island he's showing that evil streak, those scenes are great, but there wasn't enough of them because Spacey's Luthor was too concerned about making his island.

M.O.Steel
02-20-2008, 08:58 PM
as much as i like the smallville lex (best live-action, i don't remember L&C version), i thinks it very biased to ask that question in a smallville board.

Cmill216
02-20-2008, 09:12 PM
as much as i like the smallville lex (best live-action, i don't remember L&C version), i thinks it very biased to ask that question in a smallville board.

Not really, because Smallville's version of Lex is better than the movie's versions.

'Tis fact. :hehe:

M.O.Steel
02-20-2008, 09:55 PM
Not really, because Smallville's version of Lex is better than the movie's versions.

'Tis fact. :hehe:

thanks for proving my point:cwink: .

nice avatar.

Sawyer
02-20-2008, 10:48 PM
my ONLY problem with superman movies have been portrayel of lex

they make him tooo cartooooooooonish i mean he is the guy who is going against the most strongest person on earth and yet they showed him in Superman movies goofing around making lame jokes

i hated gene hackman's version and although in SR kevin spacy downplayed some goofiness but still he was inspired by genek hackman's version of lex

IMO MR is doing much better job in prorayel of lex

he is more serious and complex and also more faithfull to comic version of lex

Agreed.

Mikelus
02-20-2008, 10:50 PM
Even some fanboys of SR recognize Spacey's Lex could've been better.

Ultimate_Superman
02-21-2008, 06:29 AM
The thing with Spacey's Lex was he was still all about land. Had his motives been about something else he would have been the be version of Lex to date. I say this because even though SV's Lex is evil he is lacking something IMO that Lex has always had even in L&C and thats smarts. Lex is on or above Batman's level when it comes to how smart he is and I have yet to see SV's Lex show any signs of that. The movie versions of Lex have shown that there only problem IMO is that their motives where always about Land had they been about something else I would say they would be the best version of Lex. Which is why I say Shea from L&C is the best Lex because he was not only rich but displayed the smarts that Lex should have as well. And it will not help SV's Lex when they change Clark into Superman and Lex being around Clark for 7years now seeing him almost everyday and still can't tell he is Clark will look pretty bad.

RakuMon
02-21-2008, 07:01 AM
To answer the question in the title: yes.

On another point, since Hackman will never be on SV, can we get a guest spot for Clancy Brown? He was great on "Lost" a couple seasons back and has done work with Rosey in the past (the JLU ep in which Lex & Flash switch bodies comes to mind).

I think that would be a great subtle nod to the Luthor legacy in other media.

Serene
02-21-2008, 07:52 AM
^Cool. The Kurgan on SV. :D

NHawk19
02-21-2008, 11:30 AM
^Cool. The Kurgan on SV. :D

Why not we already had Methos didnt we?

Pink Ranger
02-21-2008, 12:08 PM
Michael Rosenbaum is the finest portrayal of Lex Luthor ever, IMO.

Showtime
02-21-2008, 12:11 PM
I think Hackman's potrayal is dated, however it was good at the time.

I think Spacey portrayed the same version of Lex in a much better way, but it still wasn't what Lex should be.

Rosenbaum has given a great portrayal as Lex but with a better version to work with.

Robin91939
02-21-2008, 01:09 PM
Smallville's Lex is only surpassed by Animated Series' Lex.

-R

triplet
02-21-2008, 02:02 PM
Hard to beat the animated series Lex when he was voiced by Clancy Brown... the guy has a wonderful speaking voice, but I think MR is the best live-action Lex ever.

zerohour films
02-21-2008, 02:30 PM
SV's Lex is definitely the best live action performance of the character.
I only hope that one day we see an older version of this type of Lex going toe to toe with the Man of Steel (although a different villain in a Superman movie would be a very welcome change!) in a movie.

CLARKY
02-23-2008, 11:36 AM
With all due respect to Gene Hackman and Kevin Spacey, not only do I like Rosenbaum's Lex more I actually liked John Shea's Lex more than the movies.
I could not agree more. I dislike the "goofy yet dangerous" Lex. I think Sinister Lex is perfect. I loved John Shea's portrayal, and I think M.Rosenbaum makes a terrific job. One thing nevertheless, I have the impression M.Rosenbaum has reached his limits. We saw him evolve troghout the serie, so perhaps I'm getting used to it, but I hope Rosenbaum has still things in store for Lex. :up:

StorminNorman
02-23-2008, 02:31 PM
Gene Hackman's Lex was horrible.

Honestly - him and his merry gang of idiots ruined Donnor's two Superman movies. (Superman 2,3 and 4 ruined themselves).

Kevin Spacey's Luthor WAS quite good - yet it still had to retain some of the camp from Hackman's and thus it wasn't as good as it COULD of been.

Michael Rosenbaum is just so incredibly brilliant. He is Brian Azzarello's Lex Luthor brought to life.

And I love the show for that.

storyteller
02-23-2008, 03:09 PM
The lex on smallville still doesnt have any motivation to find an enemy in superman. Its clark he hates and hell never know who the two are. personally its not fair to compare since Lex had a series to show his character on smallville. Spacey and Hackman had a few movies. Personally John Shea(sp?) was the best incarnation of lex in all live action. This character had no prior history to superman and the conflict came in superman challenging lex's reason for being. But whats great is that he rarely showed signs of anger. And even when he failed he saw the good in it for him.

CLARKY
02-23-2008, 06:55 PM
Honestly - him and his merry gang of idiots ruined Donnor's two Superman movies. (Superman 2,3 and 4 ruined themselves).
Hey, I thought Superman 2 was great anyway, wasn't it ?
I've never thought about this before but, I realize that B.Singer could have used the genius of Keyser Soze in Lex Luthor. It wouldn't have hurt IMO.
The lex on smallville still doesnt have any motivation to find an enemy in superman.
I agree. That's what I said earlier, I think it lacks a step in the evolution of Rosenbaum's Luthor.I sincerly hope we will see this final step one day! :up:

The Incredible Hulk
02-23-2008, 10:34 PM
of course he'll have motivation to hate Superman. Everything he's jealous of Clark for having, the love, respect, and adoration he gets are the some of the same things Lex hates Superman for. Lex will hate Superman for having things that he cant have even with his immense wealth and persuasion. That's paralleled on the show in how Lex cant have the types of relationships with people that Clark has. That's basically the gist of the Superman/Lex conflict, in that Lex, no matter how powerful he makes himself, will NEVER be as powerful as Superman, and Superman is much more respected for it, hence the reason Lex is always trying to defame him. If you havent seen that building for the past 7 years on the show, you just havent been paying attention.

SpideyVille
02-23-2008, 10:59 PM
of course he'll have motivation to hate Superman. Everything he's jealous of Clark for having, the love, respect, and adoration he gets are the some of the same things Lex hates Superman for. Lex will hate Superman for having things that he cant have even with his immense wealth and persuasion. That's paralleled on the show in how Lex cant have the types of relationships with people that Clark has. That's basically the gist of the Superman/Lex conflict, in that Lex, no matter how powerful he makes himself, will NEVER be as powerful as Superman, and Superman is much more respected for it, hence the reason Lex is always trying to defame him. If you havent seen that building for the past 7 years on the show, you just havent been paying attention.

QFT :up:

They don't show why he'll hate Superman because he's not really a character on the show, but his hatred of Clark is certainly a parallel to what his hatred for Superman will be. Also, Superman is gonna be messing up Lex's plan just like GA and his crew have been. He hates them for that now, and he'll hate Superman for that in the future.

StorminNorman
02-24-2008, 02:26 AM
Hey, I thought Superman 2 was great anyway, wasn't it ?


If you like soulless action camp that pales to the beauty of the original film - maybe it is great.

CLARKY
02-28-2008, 03:29 AM
:( well, I think I like "soulless action camp that pales to the beauty of the original film" in this case. I like it even more thatn the first one.
Back on topic M.Rosenbaum's Lex rocks ! :up:

chamber-music
03-05-2008, 09:23 AM
Michael Rosenbaum is the finest portrayal of Lex Luthor ever, IMO.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y226/teLOCA/divas/sorority_boys003.jpg

Prison Mike
03-05-2008, 11:25 AM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y226/teLOCA/divas/sorority_boys003.jpg

:lmao: Sorority Boys is a classic.

Lighthouse
03-05-2008, 11:27 AM
He certainly made the best looking chick in that movie.

Vindicator
03-17-2008, 01:51 PM
What movie was that from?

Ps. I think that it'd be really fun if they reinvented the superman movies, sorta the way they did with Batman.... Could be good to throw a fresh vision into the line of films, probably with better results and better acting than when we try to rehash and remake soeone else's vision.

Prison Mike
03-17-2008, 02:46 PM
What movie was that from?

Sorority Boys

Timstuff
03-17-2008, 10:35 PM
Is Smallville's version of Lex is better than movie's version of Lex

The short answer:

Yes.

greenlantern248
03-20-2008, 10:28 AM
Okay here is my thought.
MR's Lex is very good, I like the fact that he is a man with power (with that I mean he has money and he owns a good part of Smallville).
Now I am taking nothing away from Hackman, and Spacey I thought there Lex's were good.

Someone said on here that Gene's Lex wasn't evil, I beg to differ. In the first movie Lex killed a cop by pushing him into a train, then sent out two rockets one to Cali and the other one to New Jersey and if the would've hit it would have killed thousands. Gene Hackman's Lex was also smart, without even talking to Superman he calculated the estimated time it took for pieces of Krypton had falling to earth, and he calculated the time that Krypton blew up, so it does sound like he was pretty smart.

So to answer the question, yes I think in some area's SV's Lex is better then the movie Lex, but in the other areas I feel that movie Lex's are better than SV Lex.

Olea
03-23-2008, 07:31 AM
I'm divided on the issue. This season Lex seems to go all the way evil, killing people and manipulating everything and everyone to get what he wants.

But then there is last season too, where he was running after Lana's skirt. The real Lex Luthor would have taken his revenge on her by now for setting him up and stealing his money.

chamber-music
03-23-2008, 08:22 AM
I'm divided on the issue. This season Lex seems to go all the way evil, killing people and manipulating everything and everyone to get what he wants.

But then there is last season too, where he was running after Lana's skirt. The real Lex Luthor would have taken his revenge on her by now for setting him up and stealing his money.

Luthor is inconsistent in Smallville but he is in the comics as well so its not really surprising. Smallville isn't going to have Lex kill off Lana for real.

Olea
03-23-2008, 08:42 AM
Luthor is inconsistent in Smallville but he is in the comics as well so its not really surprising. Smallville isn't going to have Lex kill off Lana for real.
I actually didn't mean kill off. Even in the comics Lex's revenge doesn't mean death. It could be finacial ruin, set up to take the fall etc.

my point is that he didn't react to that at all. Even if he wasn't Lex Luthor but any ordinary Joe, he would still want to punish the person who did those things to him.

chamber-music
03-23-2008, 11:13 AM
I actually didn't mean kill off. Even in the comics Lex's revenge doesn't mean death. It could be finacial ruin, set up to take the fall etc.

my point is that he didn't react to that at all. Even if he wasn't Lex Luthor but any ordinary Joe, he would still want to punish the person who did those things to him.

Its smallville I learn to not expect much from the writers of the show. I mean Lex has been knocked unconscious about 40 times since the show began, I wouldn't be surprised if he had some sort of long term memory loss.

Syncos
03-23-2008, 12:19 PM
I really do love rosenbaum as lex. The goofy shenanagans really threw me off in the movies. I much prefer the LexCorp, scheming from his ivory tower type of lex. I think smallville has established as Lex as a criminal mastermind at this point. I can certainly see him cooking up a plot. But it hasn't quite displayed his scientific intelligence at this point. which kinda depresses me.

Vindicator
03-23-2008, 03:07 PM
I think SV Lex can only be considered inconsistant because he hasn't fully turned to the dark side. In that regard, I doubt one can consider him truly inconsistant, rather a tormented man.

Meanwhile, he may not have taken revenge on Lana for three reasons. The first, he is still in love with her. The second, he hates Clark and loves to reassurt their previous relationship and his (probably true) assumption that Lana is still in love with him. The third, her actions are probably not of consequence to him at the moment.

Vindicator
03-23-2008, 03:08 PM
Okay this is slightly off topic, but can anyone help me figure out how to put up an avatar?

M.O.Steel
03-23-2008, 03:31 PM
Okay this is slightly off topic, but can anyone help me figure out how to put up an avatar?

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=137235

The Techno Bat
03-25-2008, 12:23 PM
The Lois and Clark and Smallville Lex's are way better than the movie version

Super_Ludacris
03-25-2008, 12:26 PM
I think the movie version of Luthour (Spacey) had the potential to be the best by diversity of interpretation, and he did show signs but given the story this was only on occasion.
The TV version while less diverse is more focused on the sinister trait and is probably a bit better.....but Spacey has the goods overall, I just dont think hes gotten a chance to show it yet.

Vindicator
03-27-2008, 03:11 PM
Do you supppose, that Lex in Smallville can be considered a meteor freak because he's never been sick a day in his life? They've mentioned it a few times, and I think it's a curious attribute...

vegeta21
03-27-2008, 09:22 PM
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n310/jennalynnegarrett/Lex_Luthor.jpg
I just felt like posting this. Please don't ask why.

That's even more dastardly than when the Joker turned Gotham's water supply into jelly! :wow:

triplet
03-27-2008, 09:41 PM
Okay this is slightly off topic, but can anyone help me figure out how to put up an avatar?

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=137235

Yeah, no avie until you reach 300...

:(

You know, I remember asking the same thing about 3.5 years ago.

Is there nothing in the CP telling you can't have one until 300?

darkseid26
03-29-2008, 08:02 AM
Spacey could have been a great Lex, we needed the spacey from THE USUAL SUSPECTS and SE7EN, but we did not get it.

Compared to performance SV's Lex is the best.

ariellem
04-02-2008, 09:25 PM
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n310/jennalynnegarrett/Lex_Luthor.jpg
I just felt like posting this. Please don't ask why.

:lmao:
That reminds of the line that Chloe had in Rush, "You know, I always wondered. For a boy who has all the money in the world, you'd think he could afford a good toupee."


It does, SpideyVille, it does.
Oh, man, that's a great cartoon (and poster)! I want that dictionary.

And in answer to this thread's question: yes. Hope they continue with a movie with the SV cast.

The Caped Knight
04-02-2008, 09:49 PM
http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/superman/bios/villains/luthor/02.jpg
Clancy Brown as Luthor in STAS , JL & JLU is still IMO The Best version of Lex Luthor

triplet
04-02-2008, 10:01 PM
In IM tonight, when I asked why my identical triplet sister (after she'd been gushing about her new Dell XPS system) why on the show Lex had a gaming laptop:


Me: Why would Lex need a gaming system?
Older triplet sister: probably needs a high-powered system to run his Conquer the World in 10 Easy Steps software

LOL!

:D

Awesome, Lex is an early adopter with plans to conquer.

;)

Vindicator
04-03-2008, 12:06 AM
Yeah, no avie until you reach 300...

:(

You know, I remember asking the same thing about 3.5 years ago.

Is there nothing in the CP telling you can't have one until 300?


Thanks so much for the info.