Batman: The Brave and the Bold (General Discussion)

[Doctor Baywatch]

"The Brave And The Bold" - DC's Next Animated Series?

February 18, 2008 by James Harvey

The classic team-up comic book The Brave And The Bold could be the next DC Comics-inspired animated series from Warner Bros. Animation.

While nothing is confirmed at this time, the The Brave And The Bold animated series will apparently center around Batman teaming up with a different DC superhero in each episode. The series will also apparently have no ties to any previous animated incarnations. The Brave And The Bold is rumored to premiere next fall though, once again, nothing is confirmed at this time.

News on the next DC-inspired animated series should start trickling out soon. Stay tuned for further developments.

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[BATS N' HORNETS]

I'd watch it sure... but probably it would probably get too kid-friendly & become stale very quick...

[Luchastyle]

i'm sure it would be too kid-friendly, also, most of the DC superheroes are lame to me, so i agree that it would get stale.

[BATS N' HORNETS]

why are they lame??????

i agree some are but Batman, Superman, Wonderwoman & Lantern & Manhunter rock

[Doctor Baywatch]

because they are not as gritty, dark, realistic, badass as Batman. Or something like that ;)

[Luchastyle]

why are they lame??????

i agree some are but Batman, Superman, Wonderwoman & Lantern & Manhunter rock
i'm just not a fan. they are all OKAY but i like to think of batman as separate. i mean, green lantern, superman, flash, manhunter, wonderwoman can all team up. but batman isn't like them. he doesn't have powers. i think of his world as separate from their's.

because they are not as gritty, dark, realistic, badass as Batman. Or something like that ;)
indeed :cwink:

[Super_Ludacris]

Good Idea for a series.

[dolfan55aj]

i'm just not a fan. they are all OKAY but i like to think of batman as separate. i mean, green lantern, superman, flash, manhunter, wonderwoman can all team up. but batman isn't like them. he doesn't have powers. i think of his world as separate from their's.

Yea, great point. All of the other superheros look like they could belong back in superfriends, all excited and happy about getting the bad guy, but Batman, at least now, just doesn't seem to fit in that mold of the typical superhero. He's unique, and any show that includes him with other superheroes, just doesn't work IMO. That's why I never liked Justice Leauge, not to mention they always seemed to have the weirdest villains/enemies, I dunno, I was never a fan.

[Doctor Baywatch]

Yea, great point. All of the other superheros look like they could belong back in superfriends, all excited and happy about getting the bad guy, but Batman, at least now, just doesn't seem to fit in that mold of the typical superhero. He's unique, and any show that includes him with other superheroes, just doesn't work IMO. That's why I never liked Justice Leauge, not to mention they always seemed to have the weirdest villains/enemies, I dunno, I was never a fan.

Batman works perfectly with other heroes. There must be a reason why he is the character with the most team-ups in the DCU.

[Cobblepot]

Because he's also the most populair.

[Super_Ludacris]

So wait has The Batman been cancelled or will that be going on at the time as this?

[Doctor Baywatch]

Because he's also the most populair.

even when Superman outsold Batman (before the 80s) Batman was the guy who overtook "The Brave & The Bold". He is not a loner, he has Robin, Alfred, a whole crew and just fits well into teams. Superman on the other end not. He is truly a loner and works best alone. He makes partners redundant.

[November Rain]

this concept is pretty much EXACTLY like the last season of the batman and to be fair, it hasn't exactly been its best...

[CFE]

I was just about to say what November Rain pointed out.

If 'The Batman' Season 5 is any indication of how this series would go, I'd be skeptical for sure.

As far as animation is concerned, I'd suggest that Warners and DC focus on these new DC Universe films instead of trying to push for another show. I mean they were already scrapping the bottom of the barrel with 'Legion of Superheroes.'

The smart thing for DC to do, both in terms of TV and films, is to stop thinking up "team" projects...and just do projects based on solo characters and there mythologies. I mean they wonder why Batman and Superman are the two most popular characters...it's because they were given a chance to have their own series of shows and films...

I wanna see the Timmverse versions of characters get their own shows.

Flash: The Animated Series
Green Lantern: The Animated Series
Wonder Woman: The Animated Series

CFE

CFE

[ArkhamAsylum]

...or a TDK cartoon...i mean come on...they did it for burton's batman...they can do it for nolan's...plus...that cartoony joker figure would actually be kind of interesting in animation form...

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Im not so sure im fond of this idea.

[BATS N' HORNETS]

Yea, great point. All of the other superheros look like they could belong back in superfriends, all excited and happy about getting the bad guy, but Batman, at least now, just doesn't seem to fit in that mold of the typical superhero. He's unique, and any show that includes him with other superheroes, just doesn't work IMO. That's why I never liked Justice Leauge, not to mention they always seemed to have the weirdest villains/enemies, I dunno, I was never a fan.

I agree... I never was a fan of JL either, but i think some of the more interesting, less campy superheroes could stand alone and be just as cool (NOT AS GRITTY) as Batman. The thing about Batman is, he's a detective... closer to the pulp heroes like The Spider or The Shadow, but he dresses like a bat... No other heroes in the DC universe have much of anything in common w/ the pulps...

ALL HE REALLY IS IS A VIGILANTE DETECTIVE... a guy doing a lot of HARD WORK! ! !

[ArkhamAsylum]

Im not so sure im fond of this idea.

fair enough...but reeeeeealy kinda tired of the 'tim-style'...and 'the batman' style...need new blood...litereally and figureatively.

[ArkhamAsylum]

okay DV, how about giving TDK animation to mcfarlaine? might be interesting to see how dark he can take it...:)

[BATS N' HORNETS]

i hope this series gets made ! ! ! !

[November Rain]

I was just about to say what November Rain pointed out.

If 'The Batman' Season 5 is any indication of how this series would go, I'd be skeptical for sure.

As far as animation is concerned, I'd suggest that Warners and DC focus on these new DC Universe films instead of trying to push for another show. I mean they were already scrapping the bottom of the barrel with 'Legion of Superheroes.'

The smart thing for DC to do, both in terms of TV and films, is to stop thinking up "team" projects...and just do projects based on solo characters and there mythologies. I mean they wonder why Batman and Superman are the two most popular characters...it's because they were given a chance to have their own series of shows and films...

I wanna see the Timmverse versions of characters get their own shows.

Flash: The Animated Series
Green Lantern: The Animated Series
Wonder Woman: The Animated Series

CFE

CFE
To be fair, I do think teams work but it's probably best to keep them as separate from everything else as possible.

the only reason legion doesn't work particularly well is that the main antagonists aren't threatening enough and also it is too heavily based around superman especially in the second series when there are two of him.

I thought teen titans at its best was fantastic and their take on slade is probably my favourite animated baddie on screen. THe only problems teen titans had was sometimes it was too kiddy and the 'then-new' american anime style grated on a lot of people. When it came down to its make arc stories, it handled them extremely well and managed all of this without any of dc's big hitters.

however if teams aren't the way forward, then I would like to see a captain marvel cartoon, I think it would bring a lot to the table, especially with some cameos from the justice guild/society. Or perhaps a green latern core one like you said.

[The Joker]

A Brave & the Bold series would be a good idea...but...how would it really be different from Justice League Unlimited? Also, having it center on Batman is a bad idea, have a more out there character, who would feel as at home teaming up with Green Arrow as he would teaming up with the more sci-fi characters. I'd say make it focus on Green Lantern.

[-Crusher-]

i would like to see how they did it. but im going to go with the others in saying that it will get old quick, just like the new batman cartoon.

[ThreeActRomance]

i dunno about McFarlane doing a Batman story.

He drew a Spawn / Batman crossover-that was written by Frank Miller...and it sucked. Hard.

I would like to see a Batman cartoon done in the style that "Spawn" was done in-since "Todd McFarlane's Spawn" and "Batman: The Animated Series" are two of the greatest comic book cartoons ever.

[Krypton Girl]

I guess I'm still a big kid at heart because I don't mind if its campy or directed at children, I will still watch this when it comes out. :woot:

[Reflectionist]

why are they lame??????

i agree some are but Batman, Superman, Wonderwoman & Lantern & Manhunter rock

There are more than that?

I only like Batman, the other ones are just retarded to me.

[-Crusher-]

i like superman, but IMO, hes a boy scout. and batman is the badass that does stuff boyscout wont ever do.

[ronny]

They really need an animated series with The Question.

[-Crusher-]

They really need an animated series with The Question.


they also really need an animated series thats good.....like back in the day.

[BATS N' HORNETS]

they also really need an animated series thats good.....like back in the day.

no animated batman show will ever compare, unless they start making Batman Gotham Knights a series! ! !

[DCnightwing23]

WB is most likely gonna create a new Batman show.

My idea if there is one, that they should bring back Bruce Timm (who's already in talks with WB with ideas for a new Batman show) and have the show be darker like BTAS. And id go with a new animation, kinda of like anime perhaps. But for me, they need to get rid of the kid oriented crap and have a more mature audience.

Well i'd like to hear your ideas on a new batman show, so let me know what u guys think

[Prison Mike]

I thought there was talk of a Brave and the Bold series where Batman teams up with a new hero every week? Personally, I think they should give Batman a rest for a while and give an animated series to someone new like the Flash or Green Lantern.

[Boom]

I love what they're doing with the TDK anime movie.

I'd love to see an actual series follow suit.

[The Joker_1000]

Yeah, agreed. That animation is downright spectacular.

[Mikelus]

Well, either they do something similar to the anime movie or they could continue with Batman Beyond, with an adult Terry McGuiness, but to repeat the same crap no, we had enough of that!

[Prison Mike]

They pretty much wrapped the Batman Beyond storyline in JLU. I'm still voting for another superhero to get his chance at an animated show. Batman has the Burton, Nolan movies, the Dini/Timm series along with JL and JLU and now The Batman. I think it's time for the flash or green lantern to get his own show.

[The Joker_1000]

If they were to give another superhero his own show, I'd still like to see Batman get a new show. I like "The Batman" but I still want another show that is darker like TAS. Frankly, I think that Superman should get his own show, something a little more adult themed than the last series & Captain Marvel should as well. Captain Marvel is one of the guys that hasn't been featured in the media much at all.

[Vaportrail]

I would like for there to be more Batman Beyond. I dunno, it seems like they should take a break for a bit, they're kinda drilling it into the ground.

What's the point of starting over and bringing up the same ol' villains yet again?

[Ratcrawler]

An Arkham Asylum sPinoff. A sick and twisted show about the villains. Lets face it, the reason Batman's so popular is widely due to the interesting face in his rogues gallery. It'll never happen but if nothing else, they could just turn it into a "The Office" parody.

Michael-Joker (Thinks he's funnier than he is)
Jim-Riddler (Smartest guy there)
Pam-Poison Ivy (Cute redhead)
Dwight-Penguin (Takes self too seriously)
Angela-Catwoman (Loves them kitties)
Jan-Harley Quinn (Has authority over all, loses it over a relationship)
Ryan-Two Face (Big ideas, [halfway] handsome face)
Toby-Mr. Freeze (Lousy history with relationships)
Creed-Scarface (Has more loose screws than a sorority house)
Kevin-Killer Croc (Big simpleton)
Stanley-Clayface (Large, expressionless blob)
Felix-Bane (Only Latin guy)

[The Joker_1000]

Worst.Batman.Related.Idea.Ever.

[Ratcrawler]

Like you wouldn't tune in ;)

[The Joker_1000]

I wouldn't.

[TheVileOne]

Does this make up for the cancellation of the Batman besides the show getting a ton of episodes and being on for several seasons?

[The Joker_1000]

The show had a great run & I'm sure we'll be getting another show within the next few years.

[TheVileOne]

Umm no, its been cancelled, or its done after this season, whatever you want to call it.

[DCnightwing23]

Yeah thats what i heard, but hopefully they make another series. Hopefully with another network, the WB animation department hasnt been that great since BTAS, its been too cartoonish since then. I really want a darker series and a smarter series like BTAS and The WB animation department is focusing it too much to little kids.

[RonStoppablefan]

So I hear there will be a new series coming in the fall. I was hoping too that a new BatMan series would go to some thing like Cartoon Network but oh well things can't be perfect. BatMan teaming up with every heroe will be fun as heck.

[RonStoppablefan]

Hey I hope this gets made. I think they need to cram in as many heroes though this time. BatMan so far teamed up with Green Arrow/Green Latern/Flash/Super-Man more, please. Also I'm hoping for some good villains, I mean bad ass ones that BatMan will find a good threat.

[BubbaGump]

They're overexposing Batman. DC should just chill out with the churning out of so many Batman cartoons. The Batman just finished it's last episode and now we've got another series? NEVAH!!!

[SHADOWBAT69]

This still hasnt been officialy confirmed by WB, so we dont know if we are in fact getting this.

[RonStoppablefan]

I heard its being in production and that they've already found a voice for BatMan of this series. But than maybe that was just a moron who posted that info on Toon Zone forums, but I found it there will have to see. I hope it ends up happing.

[SymbioteKnight]

How disappointing. I watch The Batman with my one and three year olds every Saturday morning. It's going to be strange, that's for sure.

On the flipside, my three year old loved the new Spider-Man series so...

[The Joker_1000]

I definitely want a new Batman series to be on Cartoon Network & if they truly plan to start another Batman series, they really need to do something new to justify having another series. I say go for more realistic animation, go darker, don't rush the villains & heroes, etc.

[DCnightwing23]

I just created a poll for this thread, lets see what you think.

Also, i really think they need to start a new Batman seriews on a new network, cause the WB animation department is mainly targeting to kids, i wanna see a Batman series like BTAS, i mean u can still let kids watch it, but common there are alot of young adults and older people that want a more mature Batman series like the 90's.

They need to use that black background thing that Bruce Timm used cause it made it more darker and visually more realistic. Or just bring back Bruce Timm all together.

[Spider-Bat]

I just heard about this. I just hope it's done with better animation than the crap they have now.

The Batman looks bad but at least not as horrible as that new Spider-man cartoon. Yuck!!!

And then there's Legion which is worse, but also canceled. I gotta' say though it was a better show than that total piece of **** Teen titans, and that gets to stay on the air. What a load, I hate that goofy gay anime crap. eyes bulging, heads blowing up, just retarded. I'd have loved to have seen a good serious TT cartoon, it's a damn shame.

Maybe Timm will do this one, or it'll be a rip off and just be The Batman turned into a team-up show, which is all it's been lately anyway, the thing's still just a toy commercial with horrible redesigns of great villians, what they've done to the Joker is a crime. Every time I see how bad
Joker in TDK looks I just take a breath and remember that at least he doesn't look as horrid as the Batman version of The Joker.

[-Crusher-]

any cartoon has to be better then the new transformers animated, abomination.

[Asteroid-Man]

If they do another one it should be:
1. More realistic: this means no stupid exaggerated emotions and no stupid animation like Anime. No matter what people say, Batman was NEVER made for anime and should NEVER be shown in anime.

2. Before you start bringing in really stupid villains, bring in the classics (like two face) and have them true to the characters. This doesn't mean make it exclusive to classics, it means stay clear of dumb villains and bring cool ones like Hush!

3. Stay true to the comics!!! That means even truer then TAS! (Yes this includes the Huntress)

4. Make it DARK. For my definition of Dark, look at Mask of the Phantasm or the batman comics with art by Jeph Loeb.

Just MO and I think most would agree.

Oh and please have GOOD voice actors. Like the original Batman voice and bring back Hamill as Joker.

[Warhammer]

If they do another one it should be:
1. More realistic: this means no stupid exaggerated emotions and no stupid animation like Anime. No matter what people say, Batman was NEVER made for anime and should NEVER be shown in anime.

2. Before you start bringing in really stupid villains, bring in the classics (like two face) and have them true to the characters. This doesn't mean make it exclusive to classics, it means stay clear of dumb villains and bring cool ones like Hush!

3. Stay true to the comics!!! That means even truer then TAS! (Yes this includes the Huntress)

4. Make it DARK. For my definition of Dark, look at Mask of the Phantasm or the batman comics with art by Jeph Loeb.

Just MO and I think most would agree.

Oh and please have GOOD voice actors. Like the original Batman voice and bring back Hamill as Joker.

Bat-Embargo. Just like JLU had an embargo put on it for The Batman and Batman Begins, The Batman also had an embargo put on it for Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. This is why we had no Scarecrow, no Ra's Al Ghul, and no Two-Face.

[The Joker_1000]

That's why this series never reached it's full potential, it didn't have some of the greatest villains in Batman's rogue gallery.

[RonStoppablefan]

For some reason animation has turned bad, but whatever. Sounds like the series is confirmed though. Its called Batman: The brave and the bold.

[-Crusher-]

i suppose i will wait for a trailer before i knock it. but i have a feeling it wont be good.

[Green Goblin 1964]

I just heard about this. I just hope it's done with better animation than the crap they have now.

The Batman looks bad but at least not as horrible as that new Spider-man cartoon. Yuck!!!

And then there's Legion which is worse, but also canceled. I gotta' say though it was a better show than that total piece of **** Teen titans, and that gets to stay on the air. What a load, I hate that goofy gay anime crap. eyes bulging, heads blowing up, just retarded. I'd have loved to have seen a good serious TT cartoon, it's a damn shame.

Maybe Timm will do this one, or it'll be a rip off and just be The Batman turned into a team-up show, which is all it's been lately anyway, the thing's still just a toy commercial with horrible redesigns of great villians, what they've done to the Joker is a crime. Every time I see how bad
Joker in TDK looks I just take a breath and remember that at least he doesn't look as horrid as the Batman version of The Joker.You probably didn't even watch that show because us fans love it. Just like 616 Spidey greatness. The characterization for the characters are top notch.

[JokerLedger]

I think the move makes sense.
The Batman was created to coincide with the release of Batman Begins. To start up the whole Bat-mania again if you will.

Now that The Dark Knight is well on it's way... It's only makes to create another Batman cartoon show.

[storyteller]

They will never have a dark childrens show. It not gonna happen unless theres a 180 in tv censoring. After rewatching the old series, the only dark bits were that after the change in animation, Bruce became more introverted(pre gotham knights, Bruce was not like the batman persona, in gotham knights he is the batman persona but hey thats character evolution), and others are darker. It was Batman Beyond that put happy endings in the trash. Also dark is a lot of times effected by the music. The Batman was about showing batman as a hero and so the music was more upbeat.

Now staying true to the comics to me is irrelevant with a character with such a long history. The history of the comics gets reinvented every time theres a new issue. Batman had this teacher, or he went here when he was 15. I don't think Two Face for instance should be a guy who wears makeup, but asking for the basic origin is fine by me. Staying true just cant be done unless its say a limited series like Wanted, or an arc.

[Doctor Baywatch]

They should just bring back BTAS. :dry:

The old style, please :dry:

[Hudson]

The Batman have some of the ****tiest dialogue I've ever heard in a cartoon.

[Cain]

fair enough...but reeeeeealy kinda tired of the 'tim-style'...and 'the batman' style...need new blood...litereally and figureatively.

Amen. The visual style of the animated DC universe has become so one dimensional thanks to Bruce Timm always being involved that it makes my teeth hurt. Even when given an opportunity to try something different (Superman: Doomsday) the guy didn't really show any variety at all aesthetically. It's time for a change cause as much as I loved TAS both for Supes and Bats as well as JL and JLU his style has become played. I would love something a lot more "comic booky" to be tried. One of the reasons I respect what The Batman accomplished is that the show at least tried to break from the status quo and was brave enough to reinterpret the classic designs to fit within it's own universe.

I look forward to this show as I love the classic B&B stories I haven't followed the relaunch much at all though. But it is a cool concept for animation. I'd rather see a Batman and The Outsiders series or even moreso a weekly Green Lantern/Green Arrow series reminiscent of the classic Neil Adams works on that title.

[dolfan55aj]

They should just bring back BTAS. :dry:

The old style, please :dry:

amen to that

[The Techno Bat]

I have always wanted a Brave and The Bold, World's Finest cartoon and I hope it happens. This will have tons of potential if done correctly, and especially if they can revamp the animation.

I have been watching alot of the old Justice League cartoons on Boomerang, and if they can stick with that level of audience it would totally rock. But even if they are half of the level of what the JLU used to be I will be happy.

[The Joker_1000]

It's my opinion that a hero like Batman isn't even truly meant for children. Looking back at the 90's animated series, that series was definitely not meant for small children. It just had to be meant for kids in their late teens & adults because the show was very dark and had themes that only older kids & adults would understand. It's my belief that this is how a lot of superhero shows need to be done. So far we've gotten a great animated Batman show that was pretty dark & a great animated Spider-Man show that was somewhat dark. If we got more superhero cartoons like this, they'd be more enjoyable.

[DCnightwing23]

It's my opinion that a hero like Batman isn't even truly meant for children. Looking back at the 90's animated series, that series was definitely not meant for small children. It just had to be meant for kids in their late teens & adults because the show was very dark and had themes that only older kids & adults would understand. It's my belief that this is how a lot of superhero shows need to be done. So far we've gotten a great animated Batman show that was pretty dark & a great animated Spider-Man show that was somewhat dark. If we got more superhero cartoons like this, they'd be more enjoyable.

I agree with this statement. Batman's a dark character, and shouldn't be targeted for children, Batman just doesn't fit in that audience.

[Green Goblin 1964]

It's my opinion that a hero like Batman isn't even truly meant for children. Looking back at the 90's animated series, that series was definitely not meant for small children. It just had to be meant for kids in their late teens & adults because the show was very dark and had themes that only older kids & adults would understand. It's my belief that this is how a lot of superhero shows need to be done. So far we've gotten a great animated Batman show that was pretty dark & a great animated Spider-Man show that was somewhat dark. If we got more superhero cartoons like this, they'd be more enjoyable.I was slightly agreeing with you until...

a great animated Spider-Man show that was somewhat dark.

That show wasn't dark AT ALL.

[GregComicFan]

I agree...

I think a Brave and the Bold series focusing on Batman teaming up with other superheroes is kinda a lame idea....

Why only Batman?

So if every episode is just a team-up episode, does that mean there's going to be no on-going storyline? No story/character arcs?

Eventually, they will run out of superheroes and either begin repeating the team-ups or picking 2nd and 3rd tier heroes for Batman to join with....

I would much rather get a Timmverse Wonder Woman series, Flash series, Green Lantern series, or The Question series.... and I would prefer each of these series be a PREQUEL to Justice League, since that would make the most sense.... and for fun, later on, in like season 3, we could have a time-travel-to-the-future episode.... and get some JL/JLU cameos....

Greg

[TheDarkAce]

I hope this series does get made, but you know it will be too kiddy. Just look at the new animated series that is showing on WB Kids, it is kiddy as hell. We probably will never see a animated series like the first one. The first one was so dark, the villains were crazy and psychotic, the way they should be.

[IRON_Lad]

Watch out everyone, they could do like the new IronMan cartoon and make Batman a teenager. Just hope it doesn't get picked up by Nickelodean (Where apparently everybody is a teenager).

[RogueDK]

I guess I'm pretty much a Timm-bot because that's how I voted. Not really feeling the latest series totally...

It's not bad at all but doesn't pack quite the same impact.

[Finlandman]

Boo to this!

[CaptainStacy]

Amen. The visual style of the animated DC universe has become so one dimensional thanks to Bruce Timm always being involved that it makes my teeth hurt. Even when given an opportunity to try something different (Superman: Doomsday) the guy didn't really show any variety at all aesthetically. It's time for a change cause as much as I loved TAS both for Supes and Bats as well as JL and JLU his style has become played. I would love something a lot more "comic booky" to be tried. One of the reasons I respect what The Batman accomplished is that the show at least tried to break from the status quo and was brave enough to reinterpret the classic designs to fit within it's own universe.

I look forward to this show as I love the classic B&B stories I haven't followed the relaunch much at all though. But it is a cool concept for animation. I'd rather see a Batman and The Outsiders series or even moreso a weekly Green Lantern/Green Arrow series reminiscent of the classic Neil Adams works on that title.


My thoughts to a tee. :up:

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

I wanna see a Flash solo cartoon.

[project13]

They should be a new "Batman Beyond" series, only that it would be called "BATMAN: THE TOMORROW KNIGHT" or simply "THE TOMORROW KNIGHT". It would be the future for "The Batman" cartoon universe, just like Beyond was the future for B:TAS and TNBA.

[SuBe]

They need to give Batman a Rest. Hand over the DC Animated Reigns to someone elese. I'd say Martian Manhunter, he's not well known enough, they could take some great liberties with him, and use more of his John Jones Detective Persona, and introduce other heroes into the mix once in a while.

[Dark Knight90!]

Make of it what you will :yay:

EDIT - Very large image

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/bravebold/media/gallery/01.jpg

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/news.php?action=fullnews&id=115

[Cobblepot]

Wow very cool!!

[union_jak]

Who's the one on the right?

If this is a new cartoon, aren't they kinda rushing it?

[Mister J]

I believe that's Blue Beetle on the right.

I had hoped this thing would be tweaked to get away from largely focusing on cooperative efforts with one hero. Either that, or scrapped entirely for a show about the Green Lantern Corps, The Flash or something else we haven't seen.

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

I dont like that art at all!

[Darkfly]

looks umm different. not sure I like the style either reminds me of a too campy Batman.

[SHADOWBAT69]

sorry, looks like somone did this in paint.

If this is legit, I dont like it. The retro 50's Batman is cool and all, but this is 2008, get some up to date animation and designs. Give us a gritty 70's style comic book art look. Like B&B of old. Not this "dumbed" down stuff.

[deathshead2]

sorry, looks like somone did this in paint.

If this is legit, I dont like it. The retro 50's Batman is cool and all, but this is 2008, get some up to date animation and designs. Give us a gritty 70's style comic book art look. Like B&B of old. Not this "dumbed" down stuff.
Its real. Dang this sucks. Looks like a return to superfriends. Very kiddie.

[gqxsensazn]

1940s Green Arrow, 1960s Batman, 2006 Blue Beetle.

They need to be consistent in which era the cartoon takes place.

[-Crusher-]

ugh, how did i know this was gunna be bad?

[Midnite]

First look (http://www.comicscontinuum.com/)
Looks very retro... interesting approach.

Your thoughts?

[tyler-durden]

Is that Blue Beetle? Sweet!!!

[SHADOWBAT69]

ugh, how did i know this was gunna be bad?

'cuz its WB. Lets face it, all in all, their track record is more miss than hit.

[Sawyer]

I dig the look. I know alot of people are saying that WB is over-using Batman, but at least it isnt a Batman solo series, we'll get to see other characters...

I'm in.

[Prison Mike]

this is from TV Guide:

Star Wars, Batman Headline Cartoon Network Upfront

Batman: The Brave and the Bold courtesy Cartoon NetworkWith a quartet of Clone Troopers as his escort, George Lucas made a grandiose entrance to the Cartoon Network upfront Thursday morning in Manhattan. Lucas was on hand to plug Star Wars: The Clone Wars, a feature film/animated series combo coming later this year. (As previously announced, the movie premieres August 15, followed by the series on Cartoon, then TNT, in the fall. No date for the TV premiere was made.) It was the key announcement for the network, which is also premiering the Ben 10 relaunch Alien Force, and finally confirmed the rumored series Batman: The Brave and the Bold, which teams the Caped Crusader with a variety of DC Comics superheroes.

Calling Star Wars "the greatest brand in entertainment history," Turner Animation COO Stuart Snyder said he personally courted Lucasfilm when he heard about the project (which went into production before a network had signed on), and "after watching five minutes they had me." For his part, Lucas calls the project "Star Wars starring an 11-year-old girl" — that is, feisty Ahsoka, padawan apprentice to Anakin Skywalker. In a short clip, Ahsoka appears to be a central player in the story. Also seen: an acrobatic 'saber-wielding Yoda, Anakin, Obi-Wan Kenobi, R2-D2, and the evil multi-limbed General Grievous. Lucas calls the show "truly family entertainment" that will appeal to viewers "8 to 80."

Ben 10: Alien Force premieres April 18. Later this year it will be part of a Friday-night action/adventure bloc that includes The Clone Wars. Also on that slate is The Secret Saturdays, about a family of "world-saving adventure scientists," and the new Batman series, whose guest stars include Green Arrow, Blue Beetle, Green Lantern and Aquaman. No clip was shown, but Rob Sorcher, Cartoon Net's chief content officer, says The Brave and the Bold will be "equal doses of comedy and high stakes."

Comedy series Chowder was picked up for more episodes and will be paired with new addition The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack, a surreal series about... well, even after watching the clips that was hard to tell. — Rich Sands

[JokerLedger]

First promotional art always ends up looking different than the final product so I'm not worried yet.

[Kal-El 8]

Sounds like a modern day version of the superfriends

http://www.dccomics.com/media/product/9/0/9022_400x600.jpg

[Rocker22]

I actually like the look of it, it has more of a classic feel to it.

[tyler-durden]

I do think that batman is somewhat overused, they should have given this series to the falsh.

[Kal-El 8]

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[Riven]

1940s Green Arrow, 1960s Batman, 2006 Blue Beetle.

They need to be consistent in which era the cartoon takes place.
As if BTAS was so consistent, with their 30ies architecture, 50ies cars and 90ies/futuristic technology... :dry:


I don't think this looks bad at all. I like the retro look...

[I-T-B]

I really like the retro look as well, reminds of of New Frontier. :up:

Though I already have some other reservations about the series, for starters the modern Blue Beetle doesn't jive with the other designs. But beyond that, I'm not really behind the idea for this "Batman and ________!!!" series. Season 5 of The Batman did the same thing, and it ended up being a weak, formulaic season. And, while he is my favorite character, I wish DC would give us something besides a Batman series. I'd take anything at this point, even if it were just another Superman. But, I'll watch it, and I'll give it a fair chance to impress me. I loved B:TAS, I loved The Batman, chances are I'll love this...

[Sawyer]

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I love that. So much better than The Batman.

[The Joker]

Oh god. More Fisher Price Little People crap like the s**ty new Spider-Man cartoon. PASS.

[The Joker]

As if BTAS was so consistent, with their 30ies architecture, 50ies cars and 90ies/futuristic technology... :dry:


They did that to be timeless...they didnt have 70's Nightwing with 30's Superman.

[The Techno Bat]

I am digging the look of the animation, I like that they are steering away from the look of The Batman and the Timm-verse style of Superheroes.

Not sure the current Blue Beetle fits in with the silver age look of Green Arrow and Batman, would have been better to use the Ted Kord or Dan Garrett design.

I am excited for the new show :batty:

[Sawyer]

I am digging the look of the animation, I like that they are steering away from the look of The Batman and the Timm-verse style of Superheroes.

Not sure the current Blue Beetle fits in with the silver age look of Green Arrow and Batman, would have been better to use the Ted Kord or Dan Garrett design.

I am excited for the new show :batty:

An animated Ted Kord would kick soo much ass.

[Prison Mike]

I'm not familiar with the brave and the bold. Is it campy like Superfriends campy? The animation is not my style. I just want some rated R Batman cartoon or a different cartoon with another superhero.

[GamerSlyRatchet]

I'm liking the art.

However, a reliable source (if anyone wants to know, PM me) told me this show was supposed to be in continuity with "The Batman". And seeing much of the crew from TB return in this one (including Michael Jelenic, who story edited the fourth season) seems a little bizarre.

However, a change in artwork also occured for the DCAU between B:TAS and GK, so that can't be a problem. As long as they explain Green Arrow, I'm fine.

Either way, this looks good.

[MaskedManJRK]

I'm not familiar with the brave and the bold. Is it campy like Superfriends campy? The animation is not my style. I just want some rated R Batman cartoon or a different cartoon with another superhero.

Brave and the Bold came out around the 70s and I'm pretty sure O'Neil wrote it, so I wouldn't exactly say it was campy.

[Saint]

"Equal doses comedy and high stakes?" So even more kidtastic than The Batman. How utterly disappointing. Suddenly The Batman looks a lot better.

[JP]

Oh god. More Fisher Price Little People crap like the s**ty new Spider-Man cartoon. PASS.

WHAT?

Spectacular Spider-Man is AWESOME!

[-Crusher-]

Oh god. More Fisher Price Little People


THANK YOU! thats exactly what i thought when i saw it.

[The Joker]

WHAT?

Spectacular Spider-Man is AWESOME!

The writing and voice acting, yes, it's great...best superhero series in years.

The animation style? God no, worst superhero series in years...and with it's main competition in that respect being The Batman's americanime s**t, that's saying alot. Everyone has lifeless doll eyes, and looks like Little People from Fisher Price. They all have square faces, and there's no sense of anatomy at all. I dont mind simplifiying things...Justice League did it brilliantly...but this goes beyond that, and makes everything look kiddy and stupid. I cant even watch the show because it hurts my eyes looking at it.

[JP]

Oh, ok. Yeah, I agree. :p

Well, I actually think the animation is great. Just the character designs that are a bit iffy. But I still love it.

[The Joker]

The animation itself is fine yes. But the character designes are the most horrid thing I've ever seen, and it completely ruins the show for me. Some things are just unforgiveable in animation, and one of the is having your characters look like complete and utter non-human freaks.

[Odin's Lapdog]

this cartoon looks aweful

why are they saturating the batman market.

dcau isn't finished, then they have the batman start, then just as that finishes, this starts up and there's also a batman anime coming out

talk about overkill...

because of the movie embargo, they probably won't even have the joker in it...

[samsnee]

I don't like the animation. Looks like the old Dick Sprang 70s look.

[Odin's Lapdog]

This show looks and feels bad

it's whole plot device sounds like the last series of the batman, i.e batman teams up with a different hero every episode which limits the growth of bats and that hero to a 2d plot device.

[tyler-durden]

they so should have given this series to the flash.

[jabbatheridge]

I'm not sure how I feel about this series to be honest. The animation does look a bit childish but I guess the silver age look fits in with The Brave And The Bold comics era. I don't like it that much but the same was true when they unveilled images of how the characters in Spectacular Spider-Man would look and despite not liking the images I've still enjoyed the series so far. So I'll reserve judgement at the moment until I've seen a few episodes of the final product. Fingers crossed it'll be worth watching because in the last couple of years IMHO, The Batman, which had the shakiest of starts has managed to grow into a pretty decent superhero cartoon and they've pretty much replaced that with this.

[Sidepocket]

My eyes. They burn!

[IRON_Lad]

I don't like the animation. Looks like the old Dick Sprang 70s look.

Exactly

[Compi716]

Eh.

That's all I have to say. The designs look weird, and I can't believe they went with that version of Blue Beetle.

Than again, I didn't like the designs for Spectacular Spider-Man at first, either, so...

[Kal-El 8]

Director Ben Jones put up some teasers about Batman: The Brave and The Bold on his blog (http://hamfist.blogspot.com/):

Once again, the Internet has unmasked my latest [secret project]. This one's called Batman: The Brave and the Bold, and I'm one of three directors on it, along with Brandon Vietti and Michael Chang, working for James Tucker, of Legion of Superheroes/Justice League/Batman/the-drawing-at-the-end-of-this-post fame, and Sam Register, executive producer of all kinds of awesome shows that you've spent so much time enjoying like Teen Titans, Transformers Animated, Clone Wars, Ben 10, and so on.

Also, here's a list of characters and guest-stars that will be appearing in the show - self-redacted, because 1/ I'm not allowed to spill these particular beans yet and 2/ it will annoy Colin. Keep checking in from time to time, though, and I will be unredacting names selectively, as I have been doing for my previous Transformers and Legion posts.

I wish I could talk about it, because we have [secret character], [secret character], and [secret character] appearing. How awesome is that? Also Blue Beetle (psst - it's [secret character] in the suit) and the new [secret character]. We also have Green Arrow and [secret character], rocking a decidedly more Silver Age appearance than they have in the comics currently. We even have some really obscure characters popping up, like [secret character], [secret character] and fan favorite [secret character]. Also James has promised that we'll finally see the return of [secret character] to the world of animation, which makes me happy, since I thought he should have been in JLU. Not to mention tons of [secret characters], including one who's never been animated before. And of course, my favorite, [secret character].

Oh, and the guest star voices! Can you believe we got [secret guest star]? We also got [secret guest star], reprising his role as [secret character], and [secret guest star], but not in the role you might expect (he'll actually be playing [secret character]). Plus the return of many familiar faces from shows I've worked on in the past, like [secret guest star], [secret guest star], [secret guest star], [secret guest star], [secret guest star] and [secret guest star]. So you can see why I would be excited!

Anyhow, the show is apparently airing Fridays on Cartoon Network, but not until the Fall. I will probably forget to remind you when it airs, but please, check it out!

Brandon Vietti also mentions it in his blog (http://blogbattery.blogspot.com/):

I'm a huge Batman fan who's been lucky enough to work behind the scenes on both previous versions of Batman animation. I have to admit I was at the point where I thought Batman couldn't possibly be relaunched in any way that could elicit anything more than an eye roll out of me. But James, Sam, and Linda cooked up a new angle on the franchise that not only made me excited about Batman again, but actually made me even more excited about my career in animation. The Brave and the Bold is completely different and totally FUN! Just wait, you'll see.

[zerohour films]

Yeah not feeling this series at the moment.
While I do think that is a cool image (just has a good retro vibe to it) it made me instantly think of that new Super Friends toyline.



http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9678/comparisonbatsrw5ui8ry0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)




Then hearing the comment regarding comedy...oh well. There is always the DTV Batman: Gotham Knights.

[WompuM]

Hmm... secret character eh??? Who had been animated before but wasn't included in JLU? Firestorm perhaps?

Fan favorite: The Question?

[tyler-durden]

Secret Characters.

[Prison Mike]

LOL, I love how every other word on that blog is "secret character". Like zerohour said, there's always Gotham Knights to look forward to.

[tyler-durden]

Gotham Knight.

[zerohour films]

Yes I mistyped as Tyler Pointed out...Gotham Knight it is.

[Sawyer]

I'm excited for this. You guys may not like the lighter tone, but I have no problems with it. IMO, The Batman tried to have a dark tone and ended up, to me, being a bit silly. Maybe this will be the opposite.

[DJ Kornphlake]

sorry, looks like somone did this in paint.

If this is legit, I dont like it. The retro 50's Batman is cool and all, but this is 2008, get some up to date animation and designs. Give us a gritty 70's style comic book art look.Like B&B of old. Not this "dumbed" down stuff.

An up-to-date look that's styled from the 70's incarnation? Isn't that an oxymoron?:huh:

[signalman]

I don't like the animation. Looks like the old Dick Sprang 70s look.

Thats way I like the design of Batman.
Dick Strang was a GREAT Bat-Artist from late 1940's to early 1960's.
:woot:

[Memphis Slim]

I don't like the animation. Looks like the old Dick Sprang 70s look.


You're right.....
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0804/03/batmanbraveth.jpg (http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0804/03/batmanbrave.htm)
I agree. It does look like Sprang......Why go backwards like this??



The series will be set in a new continuity. Here's how the show is
described: http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0804/03/batman2th.jpg (http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0804/03/batman2.htm)
Batman isn't going at it alone this time! From Warner Bros. Animation comes the latest interpretation of the classic Batman franchise. Our caped crusader is teamed up with heroes from across the DC Universe, delivering nonstop action and adventure with a touch of comic relief. Blue Beetle, Green Arrow, Aquaman and countless others will get a chance to uphold justice alongside Batman. Though still based in Gotham, Batman will frequently find himself outside city limits, facing situations that are both unfamiliar and exhilarating. With formidable foes around every corner, Batman will still rely on his stealth, resourcefulness and limitless supply of cool gadgets to bring justice home."
The series, consisting of 30-minute episodes, will be produced by James Tucker and Linda M. Steiner -- the team behind Legion of Super Heroes -- and will be executive produced by Sam Register. Other creators include line producer Amy McKenna, story editor Michael Jelenic and directors Ben Jones, Brandon Vietti and Michael Chang.
_________________________________________


That "comic relief" part has me concerned. Are we going back to Adam West crap?
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[CaptainStacy]

I believe that's Blue Beetle on the right.

I had hoped this thing would be tweaked to get away from largely focusing on cooperative efforts with one hero. Either that, or scrapped entirely for a show about the Green Lantern Corps, The Flash or something else we haven't seen.

Why not all three? The WB should just make a DCU spin-off network, featuring toons with all their superhero characters...old ones from the 60's, all the way through to new toons today...

[CLARKY]

I do think that batman is somewhat overused, they should have given this series to the flash.
I agree completely. Flash or GL. I fed up with batman.

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

All I know is this looks like its for kids, and Im most likely not going to make a habit of watching it.

[tyler-durden]

I'm not fed up with him but Seriously it's time for someone else to get a tv show, people say how characters aren't popular it's because DC and Warner Bros don't give other characters a chance.

[dolfan55aj]

Ugh, just looks like a crazy, modern, kids oriented, reincarnation of superfriends...i'm not thrilled

gah, i'm sorry, i miss BTAS so much, would it be such a crime for them to just go back and continue that series with the same style and animation and everything, i just wish people would understand that that is the way to go, and some kiddie show with Batman & Friends just doesn't work. Batman is no longer the kid friendly nice guy he was in the Superfriends show. It just frustrates me.

I'll probably watch it though, somehow it seems better than The Batman, at least more fun/funny to watch.

[Cain]

Damn I'm dissapointed. I actually like that art style but it's much more suitable for a silver age themed Batman series. As I have said before I don't want a return to Bruce Timm's style either, I'm sick of it. Will it kill them to for once give us character designs akin to this?

http://www.comicsbulletin.com/features/images/0603/waid/waid0.jpg

[KBX]

Just simply call it the Brave and the Bold. Where you can see Flash/GL team up or GA/BC.

So they are planning to have Bats in every episode? Any chance he could miss one or two?

[SouLeSS]

I hate the designs, 100%.

[tyler-durden]

I hate the look but I like the use of the New Blue Beetle, the old is better and I would have liked him better but it's just nice to BB gets some recogntion.

[Parents-Gun-Bat]

That sucks. Back then with BTAS we got a show that was somehow based on the Burton movies, but just on a superficial story and turned the flawed source material into something AWESOME!

Why can't we get an animated series based on Nolan's style (no, not Gotham Knight)???

Where is the point of makeing a Batman TV show basically for kids when Batmans core audience is much older these days, about 12 to 50 or something. :dry: Those kids cannot buy the Batman comics because they are too sophisticated!

[Parents-Gun-Bat]

Damn I'm dissapointed. I actually like that art style but it's much more suitable for a silver age themed Batman series. As I have said before I don't want a return to Bruce Timm's style either, I'm sick of it. Will it kill them to for once give us character designs akin to this?

http://www.comicsbulletin.com/features/images/0603/waid/waid0.jpg

yeah if we could get the Neal Adams/Jim Aparo style on television that would own. A lot of mysteries to solve, not much violence, but bascially all ages and not kid stuff.

[Bat Attack]

*spews vomit everywhere* Blech!!! those character designs look putrid.

[Mister J]

Why not all three? The WB should just make a DCU spin-off network, featuring toons with all their superhero characters...old ones from the 60's, all the way through to new toons today...
From your keyboard to some WB suit's eyes, Cap.

I love seeing varying Batman projects, but enough is enough for right now. There's so much untapped character goodness out there that would make for good TV.

[Ratcrawler]

Hate this design more than I hated sPectacular sPider-Man's when I first saw 'em. Ditto to the Flash or GL series.

I think I'm gonna puke.

[Memphis Slim]

They have a silver age look. So why not the Ted Kord Beetle?? He never got any play in JLU. This was perfect chance for him.

[Sawyer]

They have a silver age look. So why not the Ted Kord Beetle?? He never got any play in JLU. This was perfect chance for him.

Yeah, I would've liked to see Kord. But who knows? Maybe he will still show up...

[tyler-durden]

hopefully he will show up.

[The Techno Bat]

I think that DC/WB would love to throw other heroes out there and give them there own shows, but I wonder if Comic Book sales drives there decisions as well, because if that is the case then I can see where they are sticking with Batman, he is a sure hit, and will bring in the viewers, he has numerous comic book titles, and people know Batman.

I think with guys like the flash and green lantern, there have been a few revamps with there comics and different people in the roles of Flash and GL, with Flash there has been Jay Garrick, Barry Allen, Wally West, and Bart. And Green Lantern has gone around and around with Hal Jordan, Guy Gardner, Kyle Rayner, and John Stewart, and they are probably thinking who do we go with as the hero

But hopefully with The Brave and The Bold it will break the mold or whatever is keeping DC/WB from giving other heroes a chance and catapult new heroes to the front and hopefully get there own series.

Like already mentioned I think a Green Lantern Corps series would really work well. Other series that could work:
Green Lantern/Green Arrow
Blue Beetle & Booster Gold w/ Fire & Ice
Heck perhaps even the late 80's Justice League Lineup would work fine with me for a spotlight cartoon

[Sawyer]

I think with Brave and the Bold, its the perfect chance to showcase different heroes, and show people that they may be able to hold their own series, while having Batman being the constant on the show. I'm excited for it and hope that this might bring back DC animated series.

[DocLathropBrown]

With all due respect, am I the only one open-minded enough to appreciate the art style for what it is?

Would I prefur a Jim Aparo art-style instead? You bet your ass. But are the designs still cool? Yes! I don't see what's so unappealing about it. Just as I never saw why people were so dead-set on stereotyping The Batman as crap when it really wasn't anything like what people said it was.

[SouLeSS]

fck that i want a liveaction greenlantern corps show. it could be like some random recruit group that randomly will see the 4 earth lanterns (cameo's or guest apperances), or not even at all. Would have to have Kilowog in ti though.

or a cartoon with all the gl's, as long as its glc, not just earthgl.

[The Techno Bat]

fck that i want a liveaction greenlantern corps show. it could be like some random recruit group that randomly will see the 4 earth lanterns (cameo's or guest apperances), or not even at all. Would have to have Kilowog in ti though.

or a cartoon with all the gl's, as long as its glc, not just earthgl.

Kilowog is a must and other Green Lanterns that I would love to see in the show would be: John, Hal, Kyle, Guy, Laira, Katma Tui & of course, C'Hp & G'Nort LoL

[SouLeSS]

They don't even need to have any of the well known GL's other than Kilowog (what with him being the main lantern that trains the new guys) though, that's what makes it so good.

Hell, they don't even need to have him. Have the story take place 50 years from now or 100 when all the current (or most) GL's have died off, that way all the raving fanboys won't scream "WHERES HAL AND guy and KYLE AND JOHN?!" likee you know they would.

[The Techno Bat]

What team ups are we all hoping for? Besides the norm, are there any Brave and Bold teamups that would totally rock?

I know I would love to see Batman team up with:
The Creeper, Deadman, The Ted Kord Blue Beetle, Wonder Woman, Robin, Superman, Guy Gardner (a throwback to the late 80's comic book) and perhaps even have him team up with members of the JSA

Would anyone want to have the Batman/Wonder Woman romance continue that was kind of started in the Justice League Cartoons?

[The Techno Bat]

They don't even need to have any of the well known GL's other than Kilowog (what with him being the main lantern that trains the new guys) though, that's what makes it so good.

Hell, they don't even need to have him. Have the story take place 50 years from now or 100 when all the current (or most) GL's have died off, that way all the raving fanboys won't scream "WHERES HAL AND guy and KYLE AND JOHN?!" likee you know they would.

Personally I think that would be a mistake to set it so far in the future and not have the main stay Green Lanterns part of the show, I would want to see Hal, John, Guy, and Kyle. But I do see where you are coming from and perhaps instead of having them all be "dead" they could do a few stand alone episodes. Or have the show based around the Earth Sector, where these Lanterns would be featured but then have several episodes where other GL's are featured in different Sectors and not have the well know "4" GL's appear.

Being a GL fan I would be bummed out not to have a GL series with Hal, Kyle, John, and Guy

[Cain]

As I said before I like the style just not for a B&B series if this was a silver age Batman throwback though it'd be perfect. But it seems reminiscent of older Batman cartoons so it's not something new and also seems to show that the aesthetics of modern age western animation is limited in scope. I mean I know artists are more diverse than this so I'd like them to show it for once. We still haven't seen a Batman animated show that sticks to the sensibilities of the majority of the comic book era's the character has been a part of. I think that's a shame as it will be refreshing to finally see.

[spiderfan970]

Well, I really like this direction its going in. The art style is refreshing and harkins back to the dick sprang batman comics as well as the 70s with the name/idea of the cartoon. I look forward to everyone *****ing and moaning a ****ing monsoon about how this new cartoon looks way too cartoony....AGAIN.

[MetalloX]

They have a silver age look. So why not the Ted Kord Beetle?? He never got any play in JLU. This was perfect chance for him.

Who cares? Whats the matter? Hate that the new BB is a mexican?

[SouLeSS]

He;s saying that if all the other heroes are goin silver agy, why not use the silverage BB.

[tyler-durden]

Exactly what other reason would he have.

[Sawyer]

Who cares? Whats the matter? Hate that the new BB is a mexican?

Woah. Settle...

[chris moore]

I guess it was only a matter of time before Batman cartoons went the way of Powerpuff girls and Johnny Bravo.
Batman may be one of the most recognisable characters DC has, but every successive Batman series they do gets lighter and lighter to the point of him not being feared by criminals at all.
The new Spectacular Spidey series is bad enough in terms of overly cartoony art style, but at least he's a light character and they find it impossible not to do spidey cartoons without him being the kid version. But Batman should have that darker edge, or at least an anatomical style of drawing approximating realistic. I've said it elsewhere, and I'll say it here. I really miss the old hero based cartoons that had semi-realstic figures:
Gi:Joe the movie, and He-Man and the Masters of the Universe 2003 series
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[Sawyer]

May I also point out...we're all judging this based on two drawings of what the series may look like. We should maybe wait until we get an actual clip of it in action before we judge the quality.

[Memphis Slim]

Who cares? Whats the matter? Hate that the new BB is a mexican?

Get a life. :dry:

[Robin91939]

I am not liking the look and feel of this so far.


Batman is not a comedy...

-R

[KBX]

some updates:

"Batman: The Brave and The Bold" Set To Premiere March 2009


April 07, 2008 by James Harvey ("")
The upcoming animated series Batman: The Brave and The Bold is set to premiere in March 2009.
Originally announced last week as a fall debut, Cartoon Network will set to premiere Batman: The Brave and The Bold in March 2009 premiere to provide a larger window for episode production. However, the network's schedule is subject to change without notice, so stay tuned for further updates.

Voice recording is currently underway for Batman: The Brave and The Bold, and writers for upcoming series include Todd Casey, Jim Krieg, Steve Melching, and Matt Wayne.

Click here (http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/news.php?action=fullnews&id=115) to read the formal announcement for Batman: The Brave and The Bold. Stay tuned for further updates.

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/news.php?action=fullnews&id=120

[KBX]

and another one...

Jones On Upcoming "Batman: The Brave and The Bold" Animated Series


April 08, 2008 by James Harvey ("")
Ben Jones, ones of the directors for the upcoming Batman: The Brave and The Bold animated series, briefly talked to The World's Finest about the upcoming cartoon.
"I wouldn’t mind trying to allay some of the fears expressed on various message boards," Jones told The World's Finest. "First, there will be an element of comedy, but that doesn’t mean that we’re skimping on the action.

"We’re trying as hard as we can to make sure the action will be as amazing and exciting as any previous incarnation of the Batman," he added.

Jones wanted to assure fans that the series won't be making fun of Batman, but will instead tell stories about him in a slightly lighter style.

"Character-wise, Batman is still the same gruff perfectionist that he’s been for the last twenty-five or so years," says Jones. "Everyone here is a Batman fan too, so we want to do right by him."

While he doesn't want to spill any specific details just yet, Jones says that fans will be excited about both the approach the show will take and vast amount of characters that will be appearing.

"I’m excited about what we’re doing on the show," says Jones. "The geek in me wants to spend all day going on and on about cool it is to have certain characters or actors in the show, or some of the cool stories we’re doing."

Stay tuned for more on Batman: The Brave and The Bold coming soon.

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/news.php?action=fullnews&id=121

[zerohour films]

Thanks for posting KBX, nice find.

I've been reluctant about this show from the inital description and the image released. Although it may be different, maybe it will turn out ok.

I won't be losing any sleep over it either way, there is plenty of Batman out there to enjoy at the moment and this thing is still a year away.

At the very least if it is light then it will be something I can watch with my daughter who just loves Batman at the moment.

[Saint]

Who was concerned about the action? Seems to me everyone was concerned about it being lighter, which he expressly confirmed.

[ND Irish]

Dont know if this is old or just old news but its now been confirmed
http://www.craveonline.com/articles/comics/04650095/batman_the_brave_and_the_bold.html

hopefully itll bring back the respect a bat cartoon deserves and not be crappy like the batman

[Warhammer]

This looks like a piece of s***.

[IRON_Lad]

Well....at least he's not a teen...

[MaskedManJRK]

Who was concerned about the action? Seems to me everyone was concerned about it being lighter, which he expressly confirmed.

He also mentioned that the character himself isn't going to be lighter.

Jones wanted to assure fans that the series won't be making fun of Batman, but will instead tell stories about him in a slightly lighter style.

"Character-wise, Batman is still the same gruff perfectionist that he’s been for the last twenty-five or so years," says Jones. "Everyone here is a Batman fan too, so we want to do right by him."

[KBX]

Thanks for posting KBX, nice find.

I've been reluctant about this show from the inital description and the image released. Although it may be different, maybe it will turn out ok.

I won't be losing any sleep over it either way, there is plenty of Batman out there to enjoy at the moment and this thing is still a year away.

At the very least if it is light then it will be something I can watch with my daughter who just loves Batman at the moment.

Exactly, and all I need to do is too get used to the classic look. I just hope his batmobile want have his face on it.

For me, I just view this as a JL show, with Bats in every episode. Whoever guest stars in a particular episode (Green Arrow or Blue Beetle) will probably get a little bit more screen time. Its called Batman: Brave and the Bold just because of Batman selling power, but I wonder if this has anything to do with the JL movie coming out. Wolverine and Ironman got their cartoons.



Who was concerned about the action? Seems to me everyone was concerned about it being lighter, which he expressly confirmed.

What some of us need to remember all cartoons are geared to kids. BTAS and JLU had some good scripts to go with it, but its main focus were to get kids interested in it.

[Saint]

Which does not necessitate childish comedy with no adult appeal, as demonstrated by BTAS and JLU. I can pretty much assure you that my child self would have watched BTAS before this "Brave and the Bold."

[KBX]

Remember Wally West in JLU? if their comedy their talking about is like his version of Flash than I think thats great.

I mean its not going to be Sponge Bob

[WompuM]

Which does not necessitate childish comedy with no adult appeal, as demonstrated by BTAS and JLU. I can pretty much assure you that my child self would have watched BTAS before this "Brave and the Bold."

Ah yes, because even as a child you would judge a show by two still frames of promotion and dislike it even before an episode aired:whatever:

[MetalloX]

Get a life. :dry:

Yeah,bigoted evangelicals really have lives.

[Metal Spidey]

It looks ok. A lot of people keep saying it's within The Batman's continuity but there's nothing that supports that rumor.

[CaptainStacy]

I hope we get some more less-traditional team ups as well; Swamp Thing, House of Mystery, etc.,

[Rockbottom]

Looks crap. Thats all i have to say.

[KBX]

well....

DIEDRICH BADER IS BATMAN IN THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD

Diedrich Bader is providing the voice of Batman in Cartoon Network's Batman: The Brave and the Bold animated series, The Continuum has learned.

Cartoon Network has yet to confirm Bader's casting. Recording for the series -- announced last week -- started more than a month ago.

Bader, 41, is probably best known as Oswald from a nine-year run on The Drew Carey Show. He recently starred in the No. 1 film Meet the Spartans.

Bader's many animation credits include Zee in the Batman Beyond spin-off, The Zeta Project, and more recently as Shadow Thief in The Batman.

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0804/09/index.htm

[The Guard]

It looks like a kids show. Fisher Price Batman.

Oh well. We older kids get the movie franchise and the comic book universe.

Where is the point of makeing a Batman TV show basically for kids when Batmans core audience is much older these days, about 12 to 50 or something. Those kids cannot buy the Batman comics because they are too sophisticated!

Toys.

[The Guard]

See how they're all smiling and having fun? It's clearly a show for young children. Geared to sell toys, just like THE BATMAN, and any other animated effort over the last several years. The next announcement will be about a THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD toyline.

I can't say that I care. I thought THE BATMAN was pretty subpar in every level except animation, and this is just an obvious attempt to cash in on kids love of Batman while adults and older kids view THE DARK KNIGHT and BATMAN: GOTHAM KNIGHT.

I have to be honest, that new DC SUPER HEROES toyline that is obviously an attempt to recapture the SUPERFRIENDS dynamic was a good idea, giving younger kids a Batman they can relate to. I can't call a kid's show terrible based on the fact that it's a kids show. It might be really cute.

[Sawyer]

well....


http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0804/09/index.htm

I'm trying to keep faith, but I...just...CAN'T!!!!!

[-Crusher-]

Looks crap. Thats all i have to say.
QFT.


im open minded, but come on people. thats a catastrophe to batman. it looks like a mix between Batman, fisher price, and rescue heros.

[samsnee]

I admit, the actor seems to be more of a comedic actor, but he did voice Shadow Thief as well, so who knows how he'll play it. But I'm losing faith.

[DJ Kornphlake]

All this hate based on one pic.

[BlueLightning]

OK. I would really like another incarnation of Batman like TAS, or a spin-off of the Timmverse, but I think it´s time the kiddies have some fun. For example:

When I was a kid I loved the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (The 80´s show), but then, whe I grew up, I discovered the Real Ninja Turtles (on the comics) and I loved them more. When the new animated series came, I was more than happy to see a serious representation of the turtles.

I can almost assure you that in the future we will have our "more mature" Batman we know and love in a new show. (With some luck before we became "oldies" :))

[The Guard]

Agreed. I mean it's obviously geared toward kids, a la TEEN TITANS, KRYPTO, and the new LEGION show.

[-Crusher-]

thats why they should have brave and the bold and also a more mature batman series.

like the spawn animated series.

[SHADOWBAT69]

Here, this ought to fuel the debate as to which direction this series is going to take. This is a blog from the character designer for the series.

http://drawman.blogspot.com/2008/04/new-cartoons-announced-and-babymen.html

[LexCorp]

"The Brave And The Bold" - DC's Next Animated Series?

February 18, 2008 by James Harvey

The classic team-up comic book The Brave And The Bold could be the next DC Comics-inspired animated series from Warner Bros. Animation.

While nothing is confirmed at this time, the The Brave And The Bold animated series will apparently center around Batman teaming up with a different DC superhero in each episode. The series will also apparently have no ties to any previous animated incarnations. The Brave And The Bold is rumored to premiere next fall though, once again, nothing is confirmed at this time.

News on the next DC-inspired animated series should start trickling out soon. Stay tuned for further developments.

===
http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/news.php?action=fullnews&id=66

Yeah if they do it like BTAS or JLA then yeah I would watch it.

[BlueLightning]

Here, this ought to fuel the debate as to which direction this series is going to take. This is a blog from the character designer for the series.

http://drawman.blogspot.com/2008/04/new-cartoons-announced-and-babymen.html

You know, that blog may be a little harsh, but he is right. I am getting interested in this new series, I never had the opportunity to read a Dick Sprang era comic, and I liked "Legends of the Dark Knight" episode on Batman TAS. So I am in.

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Here, this ought to fuel the debate as to which direction this series is going to take. This is a blog from the character designer for the series.

http://drawman.blogspot.com/2008/04/new-cartoons-announced-and-babymen.html

I hate that art, I think it looks like garbage.

[-Crusher-]

^agreed.

ill watch it when it comes out, see how it is story-wise. but the art is disgusting and somthing tells me that will ruin the whole experience for me.

[Memphis Slim]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7JIm0LmklQ

Listen to his voice...

[KBX]

Producer James Tucker


'The Brave And The Bold'] s not connected to ‘The Batman.’ It’s its own thing. It will be action-packed and fun,” said Tucker. “I’d say it’s more Batman as a superhero as opposed to Batman as a dark avenger. And he’s joined by a rotating cast of heroes. And that’s all I can say right now.”

The Batman,” an Emmy-award winning series, aired its final episode in March. Tucker did confirm what the “Batman: The Brave And The Bold” teaser image indicated, and that was the inclusion of Green Arrow and the Jaime Reyes-version of Blue Beetle in the series. “They are some of the guest heroes but there are tons more. It’s not just them,” said Tucker, who when pushed, added “We love Aquaman.”


http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=15931

Lets see here...

Green Arrow, Blue Beetle, Aquaman, and Green Lantern I've read in reports that will be showing up....

Wonder if they finally animate Black Lighting, and I want more Dr. Fate.

[Sawyer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7JIm0LmklQ

Listen to his voice...

He's not a bad choice, its just that he doesnt seem like he will pull off the darkness in Batmans voice.

[Dark Knight90!]

Apparently ...

'Diedrich Bader, known for his role as the robot Zee in The Zeta Project, will be provide the voice of Batman/Bruce Wayne in Cartoon Network's forthcoming Batman: The Brave and The Bold. Recording for the series has been underway for at least a month, and further cast announcements are expected to roll out soon.'

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/news.php?action=fullnews&id=123

[Two-Face]

Cool :up: :batman:

[JokerLedger]

REX KWON DO IS BATMAN??!?!

This show is going to kick ass!!!

[Gold Samurai]

Mike Manley, a character designer for the show, had some... let's call it interesting... comments regarding its intended approach at his blog.
http://drawman.blogspot.com/

One of the things I enjoy about this new Batman cartoon is the fact we are going back to a kinder, friendlier Batman. A Dick Sprang version, which is the guiding design principle we are working from and there still is a slight echo of the BT styling, which is a nice break from the grim and gritty. Let's face it, these cartoons are for children, young children 5-10,12 years old. Cereal eating, fruit rollup snacking, toy buying kids, not 30-something, 40-something bitter bee babymen who want these characters in adult situations. The message boards are already full of babymen angst about the show, how they hate the art, the idea of a kid friendly Batman and I have to just laugh at the rediculous comments. IMO one of the biggest resons comics suck ass and have since the 80's is the rise and overtaking of the biz by the Babyman fan and the loss of kids reading comics as a hobby. Now we are stuck with an aginging fanbase with limited taste, long memories, a twisted taste where the comic heroes have to be dark, gritty, sexy, adult...REAL! Humor, the most popular form of comic in the world is the least popular form of comic in the direct market. Fans don't realize what an aberation the direct market has become and how out of step it is with the rest of the comic reading world. I include it all, strips, manga, you name it, but superheroes are a niche with the smallest fanbase. The top books crack, what 100K? Try having a TV show with that number.
If they made TV cartoons the way the babymen wanted the shows would fail to reach enough ratings to survive. I also realize the fans on the web are probably not always the best sampling in any fan base as they are always the extremists. I loved the Batman comics as kid, I love the Batman TV show, the funny, corny Adam West, and millions did too. I think you can only darken these concepts to a degree and for a certain amount of time before you play them out, and face it, these concepts have really been played out anyway. 70 years of these characters pumped at you in every medium by the big corporations means there is little fresh that can be done. Fans never forget, the Babymen especially, and that's part of their problem, they can't move on, They want everything to be exactly as it always was, which is infantile. Batman should probably be played out for you by the time you are out of college. That doesn't mean you still can't enjoy the art, story or concept, but realistically these characters can't age with you. They must remain ageless and we must graduate and accept that as readers of any children's fiction. That doesn't mean you can't enjoy it like Harry Potter, but Harry Potter's story ends, and he won't grow old with you.

babymen?

[Sawyer]

That guy sounds like a complete moron. So, what he is trying to alienate adult Batman fans? Hell, I'm not even in my twenties yet, and it sounds like he is trying to alienate me...

[WompuM]

Ok, yeah. Questionable choice. As long as it's not some sort of Rex Qwan Do voice... I can imagine it being somewhat similar to New Frontier Batman.

[Mr. Socko]

Looks like a new version of Super-Friends.

[-Crusher-]

Omfg Socko!!!!

[The Joker]

Looks like a new version of Super-Friends.

Not really. The Superfriends were actually drawn fairly realistically. The tone look similar, but the character models on Superfriends were far, far superior.

[Artistsean]

I'll give it a shot. Does anyone know who is the animation style from?

[BubbaGump]

Not really. The Superfriends were actually drawn fairly realistically. The tone look similar, but the character models on Superfriends were far, far superior.

Which made the animation terrible.

[Shocker 9000]

Hmmm I wouldn't say the animation is "bad" but it's just not what I and probably most people would want for Batman. Though if you read that article on page 4, it makes alotta sense. This show is targeted at kids cause they want new younger fans. Nothing wrong with that.

Of course I'll have to reserve judgement until it actually aires. If the story's good enough, then I'll get over it. Look at "The Spectacular Spider-Man" cartoon. Lots of people hated the art when we first saw it, I myself was a little skeptical. But the story's great so the art managed to grow on me. That show pleases both old fans and new kids. Maybe this show will be able to do the same.

But Knowing DC... probably not. BTW wasn't "The Batman" a "Friendlier" type of Batman? That's what the article said this show wanted to do... but didn't "The Batman" just get canned?

[TheVileOne]

You know whatever. It's not like kids weren't watching BTAS in the 90's. Not to mention that show was saying THIS was how Batman should be. And the same show parodied the Dick Sprang/Adam West style and Batman and Robin taking that flamboyant route.

However that said, I don't have a problem with a DC AND FRIENDS style show for kids. It might not necessarily be my thing. But I understand. They want a gateway show for these characters and kids who are playing with the kid-friendlier, bulkier toys and not the DCU and JLU toys.

However, fans are simply used to the DCU style that's been around for over a decade. Those shows were watched and loved by young kids, but they didn't talk down to them and they weren't ridiculously juvenile. What was wrong with the DCAU shows that have been popular and successful for so many years? What's wrong with wanting to uphold that standard?

[BubbaGump]

Hmmm I wouldn't say the animation is "bad" but it's just not what I and probably most people would want for Batman. Though if you read that article on page 4, it makes alotta sense. This show is targeted at kids cause they want new younger fans. Nothing wrong with that.

Of course I'll have to reserve judgement until it actually aires. If the story's good enough, then I'll get over it. Look at "The Spectacular Spider-Man" cartoon. Lots of people hated the art when we first saw it, I myself was a little skeptical. But the story's great so the art managed to grow on me. That show pleases both old fans and new kids. Maybe this show will be able to do the same.

But Knowing DC... probably not. BTW wasn't "The Batman" a "Friendlier" type of Batman? That's what the article said this show wanted to do... but didn't "The Batman" just get canned?

The Batman didn't get canned. It reached 65 episodes.

[deathfromabove]

thats why they should have brave and the bold and also a more mature batman series.

like the spawn animated series.

or maybe a direct to dvd animated movie set in the movie universe? that would be cool...

[SHADOWBAT69]

... but didn't "The Batman" just get canned?

It was cancelled, yes, but it had a 4 year run.

[Jochimus]

I'm not too worried about this. Based on what little we've seen and know for a fact, it sounds like they're taking a bit of a cue from Batman's reinvention of himself in "New Frontier", at least in terms of the tone they're aiming for. "Lighter" doesn't necessarily mean compromising the character...you can easily have him be his usual grumpy self and play humor off of that.

[Prison Mike]

you know I don't really care. We have TDK and Gotham Knight coming out for us adult fans. Let the kids have their friendly Batman show. Afterall, the network is AIMED at kids who are 5-10 years old anyway. The bulk of their audience are kids. So what if they lose the adult audience. The show isn't for adults anyway and the creators have already said that.

LOL at "babyman", It's kind of funny when you think about it.

[Noir]

the art reminds me of Dick Sprang..

[Noir]

reminds me this:

X6SM7KXKulQ

[Captain Planet!]

I can't wait for this.

[Sonic1002]

I'll watch, crappy or not

[Rowen]

They need to give Batman a Rest. Hand over the DC Animated Reigns to someone elese. I'd say Martian Manhunter, he's not well known enough, they could take some great liberties with him, and use more of his John Jones Detective Persona, and introduce other heroes into the mix once in a while.


i agree, hand the reings over to someone else. batman's been done to death, we need to see a flash cartoon or blue beetle. someone other than batman. we've seen this character, to much now. its time for someone else to take center stage.

[RogueDK]

i agree, hand the reings over to someone else. batman's been done to death, we need to see a flash cartoon or blue beetle. someone other than batman. we've seen this character, to much now. its time for someone else to take center stage.


For me, Batman never gets old but I'd be all for a Flash cartoon. With the bevy of quirky villians he has, it would make a great Saturday morning indulgence.

[Captain Planet!]

The Brave and the Bold cartoon sounds like a good take on Batman, but I wish they would have used Superman as the main character instead. A Green Lantern or Flash show would be cool too. It just seems like there have been too many Bat-toons in too short of time.

[Captain Planet!]

Mike Manley, a character designer for the show, had some... let's call it interesting... comments regarding its intended approach at his blog.
http://drawman.blogspot.com/


babymen?
I agree with a lot that he said. But I don't think comics should be only for kids, or only for adults. Why not both?

[deathshead2]

So I guess this is like krpto the superdog. Well looks like its time to grow up you guys the kiddies won. Well at least we have Btas.

[ThreeActRomance]

how about a series focusing on Nightwing?

[The Techno Bat]

I would love to see a Justice League Cartoon (the late 80's incarnation giffen/dematteis) that featured:
Batman, Blue Beetle, The Martian Manhunter, Mister Miracle, Dr Light, Dr. Fate, Shazam (Captain Marvel), Guy Gardner, & The Black Canary. And of course you could bring in Booster Gold, along with Fire & Ice.

And have the character designs based off of Kevin Maguire's run or Mark Bagley

I would even be down for a Blue Beetle (Ted Kord) and Booster Gold cartoon, with Fire & Ice

[KBX]

some news from worldsfinest...

Romano Voice Directing "Batman: The Brave and The Bold"

Renowned voice director Andrea Romano will be lending her skill to the upcoming animated series.
The World's Finest has confirmed that Andrea Romano will be the voice director for the upcoming Batman: The Brave and The Bold animated series. Her impressive resume includes Batman: The Animated Series, Justice League: The New Frontier, Avatar: The Last Airbender, among a wide variety of other acclaimed animated series and features.

In related news, Will Wheaton will be providing the voice for an undisclosed character on Batman: The Brave and The Bold.

Stay tuned for further updates.



http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/news.php?action=fullnews&id=129

[DCnightwing23]

Wait!! this was my thread???!! and the poll was my idea!!!! what is going on here!!! the the hell!! whoever did this copied my thread!!

[RonStoppablefan]

I am hoping for a more darker ranged series, that would be neat. I'll give it a chance it will be neat seeing Batman take on different types of villains, he did a good job in the JL. I just hope that dezine they showed was fake, I like Batmans black suite better, not his blue but whatever.

[DaCrissaMan02]

I'd watch it sure... but probably it would probably get too kid-friendly & become stale very quick...

Its a cartoon, cartoons are for kids.

[Syncos]

Its a cartoon, cartoons are for kids.

That's the problem I have with this.
Why should they specifiically aim this show for kids?

Bats TAS was a more serious toned show, that was still fantastic for kids (I know, I was one at the time), but also allowed for adult indulgence too.

Where's the logic in limited your market? Wouldn't it be beneficial to have both adults and children enjoy your show?

Who says that kids like mindless, goofy crap? I certainly didn't when I was a kid.

[Cain]

I mean you got to understand kids today are different than they were during your generation. I grew up during a time where parents weren't afraid of their kids being precocious. My introduction to Batman was the filmation show and the Adam West series but when I saw the Burton movie at age 6 it completely solidified me as a fan for life.

It was so different from what I initially perceived as a younger kid it's what made me start buying the comics with my dollar allowance. But I still loved all 3 in the end. Still do at age 24.

My parents had no problems with letting me see Scarface, Evil Dead, The Fly, the Freddy movies, Child's Play, Aliens, Robocop, Predator, Commando & The Terminator as a youngin but I grew up in an area that was crack riddled and filled with regular shoot outs so to me I had seen worse in real life than movie violence and such. During the late 80's a very dark period out here in NY. It was nothing to explain fantasy to me but I can't expect kids today especially to be growing up under the same circumstances.

Like others already said we have the comics, the live action movie series and an animated DVD that spin's off that world I think they've done more than enough to compensate for us. It's only fair the little 3 - 6 year olds get their own Batman before their ready for the heavier stuff. My only beef is that I wish the designs were more bronze age comics like.

[Spider-Bat]

i'm sure it would be too kid-friendly, also, most of the DC superheroes are lame to me, so i agree that it would get stale.
Why are you here then? DC's better than anything I've seen. Marvel's ruined their characters. Marvel sucks now.

DC rocks.

[Spider-Bat]

They need to stop with the kiddy crap. TAS was way serious and way good!!! They need to do that again and they'll have a hit that lasts more than 1 or 2 seasons. Quality people!

[Cain]

They need to stop with the kiddy crap. TAS was way serious and way good!!! They need to do that again and they'll have a hit that lasts more than 1 or 2 seasons. Quality people!

That's a very selfish perspective. You could tell by which animated series really resonate with the majority of today's kids that they're more interested in a lighter tone and something a bit more fast paced. Nothing wrong with that that's just where their sensibilities lie.

Yes my generation wasn't anywhere near as "ADD based" but again the keyword here is "generation" different ones have different ideals. You can't get mad at WB for making a show that will connect with today's childrens. Even The Batman was "kiddy crap" when compared to a series like TAS and it worked out fine at least IMO.

Stop complaining about little kids getting their own Batman when you already have the live action movies and even the comic books which really haven't been written for younger children for going on 3 decades now. It seems really ridiculous and uneccessary, I would understand if the more adult fans didn't have anything to call their own but give me a break we all know that is not the case.

[KBX]

oh I read somewhere that Plastic man is showing up....

so we got him, Blue Beetle, finally getting animated... any takes on Black Lightning?

[Parkdaledude]

It sucks they cancelled playing the old one, but this one is going to kill, finally Batman & The Question Teaming up

[HankVenture]

Where's Kevin?

[RonStoppablefan]

It sucks they cancelled playing the old one, but this one is going to kill, finally Batman & The Question Teaming up

Batman and Question never teamed up in the JL did they? So yah it would be sweet. I just wish they didn't change Batmans look is all, sucks ass :csad:
Thats the only problem I have here.

[Lead Cenobite]

They need to stop with the kiddy crap. TAS was way serious and way good!!! They need to do that again and they'll have a hit that lasts more than 1 or 2 seasons. Quality people!

Yeah, maybe it'll last three seasons instead! :oldrazz:

Seriously though, I'd give this a chance. Like it or not, Batman IS a superhero. He was the first character inspired by the success of Superman for crying out loud! He may not have powers, but that doesn't mean he isn't just a wee bit fantastical.

[Silver Knight]

Will come out start of 2009.

Im exited..

[BatmanEVH]

Here's the first look at the new Batman!

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/bravebold/media/gallery/01.jpg