Harvey Dent/Two Face Thread

[Frank Noir]

All right, I did a little research on the subject. Probably for the best that there haven't been any pictures posted, because it is pretty gruesome. I wonder how far they can go with a PG-13 rating, 'cause Eckhart said the damage to the face would be worse than the fans think. The wounds are deep, according to him.

Anyway, the face of a burn victim looks more reddish/pink and swollen. The face of a victim of an acid burn can vary from red to black. It can eat it's way to and through the bone, depending on the type of acid.

Seriously, the pictures are gruesome, so do not watch if you can't stand that type of thing.

[HUMANIMAL]

im not sure if i shall post a link to a site wich i found with a burned victim ....all i can say is that it looks awfull...and not only reddish and swollen...its black and rotten ....

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

All right, I did a little research on the subject. Probably for the best that there haven't been any pictures posted, because it is pretty gruesome. I wonder how far they can go with a PG-13 rating, 'cause Eckhart said the damage to the face would be worse than the fans think. The wounds are deep, according to him.

Anyway, the face of a burn victim looks more reddish/pink and swollen. The face of a victim of an acid burn can vary from red to black. It can eat it's way to and through the bone, depending on the type of acid.

Seriously, the pictures are gruesome, so do not watch if you can't stand that type of thing.

Lord of the rings got away with alot, they can go pretty far I think.

[Marden]

I really doubt he would have his face burned by fire. I thought this was about realism(Well, not everything was that way of course, but it wasn't over the top.) and fire would burn all of his hair and most of the suit in few moments to actually give the fire enough time to do some horrible scarring. I don't know how he gets his special suit, but I'd bet he gets acid in the face.

[mrsparkle]

Is it acid or gasoline?

In the trailer it looks like he's lying in a pool of gas that someones about to light which is why he's screaming "NO!" he doesn't look in pain just **** scared.

[Ecstasy]

I sincerely hope that his hair is somewhat messed up after the scarring.

[Morphius DOH]

Yup he has a clean hand.
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/darthvader1025/Darkknight33.jpg

I think it looks more blueish because of the light coming inward from the window. Oh well we can agree to disagree.
The color of the burn depends on how deep the burn damages skin, veins, muscles, and other scar tissue. So, it's very likely that the burnt half will have varying shades of black, blue, pink, and red. I imagine that the burns are going to be quite severe because if you look at him as he's yelling, his face is pressed against what looks like gasoline soaked wood. Can you imagine the added damage splintered wood can do his face on top of his flesh being burnt away.

Have you also noticed the color of his jacket on the side closest to the door? It's a lighter blue than the other side, and has the appearance of being frayed and tattered, just like it had been near or on fire as well.

[HUMANIMAL]

ok speculation goes on ...ive red in another forum that they also think he gets pressed down on a table not on a floor ...he gets a bath ...could still be acid ;-) the scenes with the gasoline and harvey dont need to be connected ...but it still could be that he gets burned and it wouldnt disturb me if they did so ... is it me or is in this movie all about burning down something?

[Morphius DOH]

ok speculation goes on ...ive red in another forum that they also think he gets pressed down on a table not on a floor ...he gets a bath ...could still be acid ;-) the scenes with the gasoline and harvey dont need to be connected ...but it still could be that he gets burned and it wouldnt disturb me if they did so ... is it me or is in this movie all about burning down something?
The phoenix [Gotham] rising from the ashes. Fire does seem to be a common theme, just look at the various posters; most of them have fire in one form or another.

[The Caped Knight]

So much do you guys want a bet The look of Two-Face is going to be simliar to Bermejo art ?

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b310/midnite4/Lee%20Bermejo/BermejoTwoFace.jpg

[Juggernaut33]

So much do you guys want a bet The look of Two-Face is going to be simliar to Bermejo art ?

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b310/midnite4/Lee%20Bermejo/BermejoTwoFace.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/batmanonfilm/bofimagesbofimages/bermejo_dent_2.jpg

That one is far more realistic and better.

[doctorkenyon]

http://photos.imageevent.com/batmanonfilm/bofimagesbofimages/bermejo_dent_2.jpg

That one is far more realistic and better.

Not sure I like that tbh.

[Nepenthes]

If they truly have abandoned the sudden-acid-splash-in the-courtroom sequence then I can only hope that the guys holding Dents head to the floor are corrupt cops or maybe goons posing as cops. It's the only good way I can think of right now to preseve some of the symbolism of the courtroom scene

[mrsparkle]

This is what i'm seeing in the trailer.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i234/mrsparckle/demiseofdent.jpg

[cjblair]

If they truly have abandoned the sudden-acid-splash-in the-courtroom sequence then I can only hope that the guys holding Dents head to the floor are corrupt cops or maybe goons posing as cops. It's the only good way I can think of right now to preseve some of the symbolism of the courtroom scene

I did suggest it could be a failed hit, like in TLH when they blew up his house. Bats shows up or something.

[doctorkenyon]

This is what i'm seeing in the trailer.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i234/mrsparckle/demiseofdent.jpg

Best Two-Face art yet :up: :woot:

[doctorkenyon]

I did suggest it could be a failed hit, like in TLH when they blew up his house. Bats shows up or something.

It must be something like that, they wouldn't just scar him when they can just as easily kill him.

[CaptainClown]

Still the major flaw of that theory is evident in your art
"somehow Dent escapes the blaze with the side he was lying on burnt beyond recognition"
also I like the art

[cjblair]

also I like the art

Same here, it's a bit like the Jokerized trailer. Mister J would be proud.

[Nepenthes]

I did suggest it could be a failed hit, like in TLH when they blew up his house. Bats shows up or something.

Yeah I actually think it is most likely an early attempt to scare him, not the the disfigument scene itself. But if it IS, those guys better be cops is all I'm sayin

Dent is the guy who will not back down. It makes sense there would be several attempts to silence him, especially before resorting to something as desperate, excessive and cruel as throwing acid in a packed courtroom. it's stupid and outrageous, you dont just go from nothing to throwing acid at your prosecutor. Maroni only does it because he's knows he going down for Life I guess.

[regwec]

God, I hate Bermejo. He really is the artist 'teen' generation.

[Frank Noir]

Yeah I actually think it is most likely an early attempt to scare him, not the the disfigument scene itself. But if it IS, those guys better be cops is all I'm sayin

Dent is the guy who will not back down. It makes sense there would be several attempts to silence him, especially before resorting to something as desperate, excessive and cruel as throwing acid in a packed courtroom. it's stupid and outrageous, you dont just go from nothing to throwing acid at your prosecutor. Maroni only does it because he's knows he going down for Life I guess.

Exactly. In TLH Maroni screams at Dent after he throws the acid in his face: DID YOU REALLY THINK YOU HAD ME?!"

[sarg2k]

Something I was hoping someone could clarify for me.

The tralier Dents hand is fine when he is holding the gun, but when those leaked toy images came out he clearly has a burnt hand as well.

I looked at the images again and I am pretty sure that he does not have a glove on his hand, but I maybe wrong.

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

http://photos.imageevent.com/batmanonfilm/bofimagesbofimages/bermejo_dent_2.jpg

That one is far more realistic and better.

I disagree.

[I am a Guthrie]

in the al roker interview aaron eckhart says he gets burnt by acid

[CaptainClown]

Something I was hoping someone could clarify for me.

The tralier Dents hand is fine when he is holding the gun, but when those leaked toy images came out he clearly has a burnt hand as well.

I looked at the images again and I am pretty sure that he does not have a glove on his hand, but I maybe wrong.
http://www.mwctoys.com/images/review_sc2_3.jpghttp://www.cinematical.com/images/2005/06/batty_022.jpg
Toy design =/= actual design

[ShadowBoxing]

I realize for the first film they aren't going with the starkly contrasting suit (Black and White, Orange and Blue), which I think is fine since we're seeing the newly formed Two-Face. I hope though, as the films progress into the third installment that we finally see Two-Face emerge in his tradition costume. I think it would be a mistake not to. This movie shouldn't get so stooped in it's realism that it forgets that villains can be a little hokey.

[CaptainClown]

I realize for the first film they aren't going with the starkly contrasting suit (Black and White, Orange and Blue), which I think is fine since we're seeing the newly formed Two-Face. I hope though, as the films progress into the third installment that we finally see Two-Face emerge in his tradition costume. I think it would be a mistake not to. This movie shouldn't get so stooped in it's realism that it forgets that villains can be a little hokey.
soo...where would he get a suit like that from? The same tailor who makes the Jokers clothing?

The two-face suit is going to be two toned but not like you said, it will be tattered and ruffled on one side with burn marks and nice and neat on the other.

[Nepenthes]

maybe Firefly burnt the Jokers money?

[sarg2k]

http://www.mwctoys.com/images/review_sc2_3.jpghttp://www.cinematical.com/images/2005/06/batty_022.jpg
Toy design =/= actual design

LOL

Good point :yay:

[Crook]

God, I hate Bermejo. He really is the artist 'teen' generation.
What's wrong with his Two-Face?

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b310/midnite4/Lee%20Bermejo/BermejoTwoFace.jpg

That's pretty much exactly how I'd want him to look. It's ripped from the comics actually. :huh:

[regwec]

His face looks like the moon. It's another misplaced attempt to appear "realistic". I admit, however, that i judge it more harshly in light of his absurd Joker.

[ShadowoftheBird]

Why is everyone assuming the two scenes are connected? I mean, they might be, and people are making very good arguments for it, but trailers are known to be mash ups of different parts of a movie, and not necessarily chronological.

For all we know, they could be holding his head against the roof of the building that the Joker is pushing Rachel off of. If they were about to push my girl off a roof, I imagine they'd have to restrain me, and the ground seems as good a place as any. And I'd sure as hell scream "NOOOOO."

Personally, it doesn't matter to me by what method he's scarred, as long as he's scarred. I think the burning would be creative, but I think the acid is more logical. However, I won't put too fine a point on it. In the L.A. Times Article, he states only that it would be "like" looking at someone who had half their face ripped off or burned from acid, not necessarily that it was.

Hate to get too nitpicky about the gasoline burning, it just seems to me like we might be taking this too far. I, after all, was a big supporter of the perma-white Joker. Again though, whatever. It's the psychological aspects of Two-Face re: the scarring that I'm most concerned with.

[Crook]

His face looks like the moon. It's another misplaced attempt to appear "realistic". I admit, however, that i judge it more harshly in light of his absurd Joker.
Maybe. I don't see too much difference between that and:

http://www.vacuumboy9.com/tlh/13p23.jpg

Though his Joker has been much improved over his initial design sent over to BOF a while back.

[66 Face]

Are there any pics of Dent in the car with the gun from the third trailer? Its clearly post acid and you can see some of the scars.

[Finlandman]

I just read The Long Halloween. I hope they mix that Harveys story with BTAS Harveys story. Look should be taken from THL. Picture above is perfect example.

[Keyser Soze]

Are there any pics of Dent in the car with the gun from the third trailer? Its clearly post acid and you can see some of the scars.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/darthvader1025/Darkknight33.jpg

[Keyser Soze]

So much do you guys want a bet The look of Two-Face is going to be simliar to Bermejo art ?

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b310/midnite4/Lee%20Bermejo/BermejoTwoFace.jpg

That is a great Two-Face drawing! Where is it from, that "Joker: Dark Knight" project Bermejo's working on with Azzarello?

[ShadowBoxing]

soo...where would he get a suit like that from? The same tailor who makes the Jokers clothing?

Or, ya'know, he could sew it together himself. It's honestly not that hard to sew two halves of a suit together. The man is a DA, he has probably got a million suits, many of them starkly different from one another. You could open up a movie (that is if you wanted to waste the time explaining it) with him breaking into his house and ripping up two of his suits.

Also remember the Joker in this wears custom clothing which is, to say the least, very unconventional.

[Dark Donnie]

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/darthvader1025/Darkknight33.jpg
^^
I have almost no doubt that his face is dropped in some sort of gasoline(not acid) then lit on fire. I mean even his half of the suit looks like its been on fire....

[ShadowoftheBird]

Why is everyone assuming the two scenes are connected? I mean, they might be, and people are making very good arguments for it, but trailers are known to be mash ups of different parts of a movie, and not necessarily chronological.

For all we know, they could be holding his head against the roof of the building that the Joker is pushing Rachel off of. If they were about to push my girl off a roof, I imagine they'd have to restrain me, and the ground seems as good a place as any. And I'd sure as hell scream "NOOOOO."

Personally, it doesn't matter to me by what method he's scarred, as long as he's scarred. I think the burning would be creative, but I think the acid is more logical. However, I won't put too fine a point on it. In the L.A. Times Article, he states only that it would be "like" looking at someone who had half their face ripped off or burned from acid, not necessarily that it was.

Hate to get too nitpicky about the gasoline burning, it just seems to me like we might be taking this too far. I, after all, was a big supporter of the perma-white Joker. Again though, whatever. It's the psychological aspects of Two-Face re: the scarring that I'm most concerned with.

Actually, I retract everything I just said (except about the way he phrased what he said in the article). I looked at the trailer twice, and when his face is pressed against the floor you can clearly see a ceiling light and a roof above him.

However, or in addition, that's not wood his face is pressed up against. That is white marble, covered in the gasoline.

Maybe they actually ARE doing this.

[CaptainClown]

Or, ya'know, he could sew it together himself. It's honestly not that hard to sew two halves of a suit together. The man is a DA, he has probably got a million suits, many of them starkly different from one another. You could open up a movie (that is if you wanted to waste the time explaining it) with him breaking into his house and ripping up two of his suits.

Also remember the Joker in this wears custom clothing which is, to say the least, very unconventional.
...Two-face one of batmans greatest foes sews his costume together...What reason you ask?! Because his favorite blue suit doesn't match the red side of his face so he decided to mix and match.

It is not a matter of his ability to to create the suit. It is the fact he goes out of his way to make it for whatever reason.

the reason why it is ok with the Joker is mainly because he is a mysterious guy. Hell the man could have been a tailor in his past life. the guy is insane. I could see him holding a tailor hostage for his own personal threads.

two-face...ya nah, if that is what you want though go for it.

[ShadowBoxing]

...Two-face one of batmans greatest foes sews his costume together...What reason you ask?! Because his favorite blue suit doesn't match the red side of his face so he decided to mix and match.

It is not a matter of his ability to to create the suit. It is the fact he goes out of his way to make it for whatever reason.
He's crazy and obsessed with duality. I think that's reason enough. Remember Batman escalates the playing field. He has a taste of the theatrical, so now villains in Gotham do as well. They become symbols like him, only with opposing logic.
the reason why it is ok with the Joker is mainly because he is a mysterious guy. Hell the man could have been a tailor in his past life. the guy is insane. I could see him holding a tailor hostage for his own personal threads.

Harvey Dent might be a stable guy, but Two-Face is far from it. He flips a coin to make his decisions, he talks in two distinct voices, he becomes obsessed with duality to the point where it runs his life. It's certainly a man who could make a "costume" for himself, certainly one as simple as the one he wears.

It's something that could definitely be included in the third film.

[ShadowoftheBird]

He's crazy and obsessed with duality. I think that's reason enough. Remember Batman escalates the playing field. He has a taste of the theatrical, so now villains in Gotham do as well. They become symbols like him, only with opposing logic.

Harvey Dent might be a stable guy, but Two-Face is far from it. He flips a coin to make his decisions, he talks in two distinct voices, he becomes obsessed with duality to the point where it runs his life. It's certainly a man who could make a "costume" for himself, certainly one as simple as the one he wears.

It's something that could definitely be included in the third film.

Third film maybe, sure. But this time around, it's burning/acid marks on the suit. The toy pictures make this fairly clear.

[ih8nyy]

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/darthvader1025/Darkknight33.jpg

Funny, his hand doesn't look like its crispy at all? Not at all like the figure that was leaked.

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x135/symbiote24/dscn2434oe1.jpg

Sorry let me put that in spoiler tags.

[ShadowoftheBird]

Funny, his hand doesn't look like its crispy at all? Not at all like the figure that was leaked.

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x135/symbiote24/dscn2434oe1.jpg

You see the opposite sides of the hand in each pic...

It would seem to me that if he were making a fist (in pain) that it's possible that only the back side of his hand/thumb got burned (by fire or acid, either way)

[SuperBatman]

I thought we established that the Toy isn't what he looks like. SO STOP Going back to the Toy.

[doctorkenyon]

Or we could again put that down to differences in the figures to the film.

[ShadowoftheBird]

I thought we established that the Toy isn't what he looks like. SO STOP Going back to the Toy.

There's that, too. Toys are never quite the same as their move counterparts. Liberties are definitely taken.

[ShadowoftheBird]

Now that I think about it, the side-to-floor burning would actually be a great way to establish the two-sidedness across his body and clothes without resorting to a Tommy Lee Jones-esque double-suit. It seems very Nolan to me.

[ih8nyy]

I am just saying that it would seem odd that his hand doesn't look burnt at all.

[ShadowoftheBird]

I am just saying that it would seem odd that his hand doesn't look burnt at all.

For the sake of argument, again, look at your hand, and try to imagine only the part you're seeing in the toy pic being burnt. Maybe color it with a crayon/marker. Then turn your hand around and pretend to hold a gun as we see in the trailer. I think you'll find you can't see the other side, except maybe part of the thumb, which is shadowed in the trailer.

[Visceral]

i don't know if the shot is done, i heard something about his ugly sid being cgi

[ShadowoftheBird]

i don't know if the shot is done, i heard something about his ugly sid being cgi

It's going to be, yes. The scarring goes very deep, according to AE.

[ih8nyy]

For the sake of argument, again, look at your hand, and try to imagine only the part you're seeing in the toy pic being burnt. Maybe color it with a crayon/marker. Then turn your hand around and pretend to hold a gun as we see in the trailer. I think you'll find you can't see the other side, except maybe part of the thumb, which is shadowed in the trailer.

I would think that if my hand was lying in liquid such as Gas and then was lit on fire, the flames would do enough damage that my fingers would look like a couple of Baby Back Ribs. But that's just my opinion.

I'll let you know how my hand turns out when I get home and have time to do a few experiments in the garage. Unless of course anyone wants to be a lab rat for me? Its all in the name of science.

Where are the Jamie Hyneman and Adam Savage when you need them?

[ShadowoftheBird]

I would think that is my hand was lying in liquid such as Gas and then was lit on fire, the flames would do enough damage that my fingers would look like a couple of Baby Back Ribs. But that's just my opinion.

I'll let you know how my hand turns out when I get home and have time to do a few experiments in the garage. Unless of course anyone wants to be a lab rat for me? Its all in the name of science.

Where are the Jamie Hyneman and Adam Savage when you need them?

Yeah, I'm not saying it makes perfect sense, I'm just saying you don't see the whole hand in either picture.

[ih8nyy]

Yeah, I'm not saying it makes perfect sense, I'm just saying you don't see the whole hand in either picture.


True.

Now I have a craving for Baby Back Ribs. I'm gonna have to go to Chili's for lunch now.

[ShadowoftheBird]

True.

Now I have a craving for Baby Back Ribs. I'm gonna have to go to Chili's for lunch now.

So long as you don't end up eating your fried fingers on accident, I don't see a problem with that.

[ShadowBoxing]

Third film maybe, sure. But this time around, it's burning/acid marks on the suit. The toy pictures make this fairly clear.
Well he's only gonna be in this film for what, twenty minutes tops. There's no point in wasting the gimmick on such a short appearance and set-up.

[ShadowoftheBird]

Well he's only gonna be in this film for what, twenty minutes tops. There's no point in wasting the gimmick on such a short appearance and set-up.

My point exactly.

It's kind of like the old threads in Star Wars forums prior to Episode III. People kept saying that Anakin was going to construct a red lightsaber prior to his fight with Obi Wan Kenobi. I doubt Nolan's Two-Face is going to stop killing people just so he can visit the tailor or go home and sew himself a suit. With the exception of the Joker, most of Nolan's villains have very practical outfits, and they have an explanation. Scarecrow's develops over time, and Ra's is, well, a ninja.

[CaptainClown]

He's crazy and obsessed with duality. I think that's reason enough. Remember Batman escalates the playing field. He has a taste of the theatrical, so now villains in Gotham do as well. They become symbols like him, only with opposing logic.

Harvey Dent might be a stable guy, but Two-Face is far from it. He flips a coin to make his decisions, he talks in two distinct voices, he becomes obsessed with duality to the point where it runs his life. It's certainly a man who could make a "costume" for himself, certainly one as simple as the one he wears.
He is obsessed with duality, but he isn't meant to be a theatric character. Batman brings the freaks to Gotham, but Harveys mental break down was inevitable. He already had psychological problems and his scaring just reinforced it. Duality develops from his wants to do and what he is suppose to do. Like his Id ego superego, except Harvey looses his Ego and can not determine which way to follow.
He doesn't need a suit to prove that he is obsessed with duality his coin and face are enough. Harvey is not out there to be the best villain of all time and try and out dress the joker. Harvey is focused on revenge.

Also Harvey understands right and wrong and is not as crazy as you make him out to be. He is without the ability to judge that is all. Joker is balls to the wall crazy and wanted to get a fish licensed after himself. Comparing the two is like comparing George W. Bush to Dick Cheny. One wants to do the good thing but is incapable of doing so because of his mental state and the other is pure evil.

[ShadowBoxing]

He is obsessed with duality, but he isn't meant to be a theatric character. Batman brings the freaks to Gotham, but Harveys mental break down was inevitable. He already had psychological problems and his scaring just reinforced it.
And yet, even in this franchise, if there were no freaks in Gotham there would be no Two-Face. Dent may always have had psychological issues (although he didn't really until he got scarred in the comics), but the manic Two-Face develops directly as a result of the scarring.
Duality develops from his wants to do and what he is suppose to do. Like his Id ego superego, except Harvey looses his Ego and can not determine which way to follow.
He doesn't need a suit to prove that he is obsessed with duality his coin and face are enough.
His face was there by accident not by choice. It has nothing to do with his "duality" obsession, it's what was the catalyst for it.
Harvey is not out there to be the best villain of all time and try and out dress the joker. Harvey is focused on revenge.
Jeph Loeb completely disagrees with you.
Also Harvey understands right and wrong and is not as crazy as you make him out to be.
...But Two-Face doesn't. You keep using Two-Face and Harvey like they are synonomous. They aren't.
He is without the ability to judge that is all. Joker is balls to the wall crazy and wanted to get a fish licensed after himself. Comparing the two is like comparing George W. Bush to Dick Cheny. One wants to do the good thing but is incapable of doing so because of his mental state and the other is pure evil.Poor example, and even worse point. Two-Face and Joker are both crazy. You can't say one is and one is not. Most of Batman villains qualify as crazy.

[The Guard]

Point.

Who says this version of Dent will be obsessed with duality? Odds are they'll just play up his psychological inability to reconcile his choices after the mindset he once posessed is shattered. Which means he'll have his coin, and he'll have his vendetta against organized crime, but he won't be robbing the Second National Bank of Gotham on February 2nd.

[ih8nyy]

Point.

Who says this version of Dent will be obsessed with duality? Odds are they'll just play up his psychological inability to reconcile his choices after the mindset he once posessed is shattered. Which means he'll have his coin, and he'll have his vendetta against organized crime, but he won't be robbing the Second National Bank of Gotham on February 2nd.


February 2nd is the best day of the year!

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg277/cpoconnor/Phil.jpg

[LiveWire777]

Now that I think about it, the side-to-floor burning would actually be a great way to establish the two-sidedness across his body and clothes without resorting to a Tommy Lee Jones-esque double-suit. It seems very Nolan to me.
yes i would much rather have that then that god awful two toned suit

[ShadowBoxing]

yes i would much rather have that then that god awful two toned suit
It doesn't have to be a "God awful" two toned suit. I'm fine with the burnt suit look for the first film, since Two Face is a very small aspect of the overall plot, and establishing his look would take too much time. For the third film though I think using the two-toned suit from TLH and DV would be fine. That suit looks good, without being over the top.

[ShadowoftheBird]

It doesn't have to be a "God awful" two toned suit. I'm fine with the burnt suit look for the first film, since Two Face is a very small aspect of the overall plot, and establishing his look would take too much time. For the third film though I think using the two-toned suit from TLH and DV would be fine. That suit looks good, without being over the top.

Nolan would wait to have Two-Face wear such a suit until his insanity/dissociative personality disorder is well established... And even then might not. I agree that TLH and DV suits are tasteful, I'm just not sure if Nolan would do it.

And from the more recent interviews it seems that Harvey's slip is a very large, if not the largest part of the film's plot. The Joker is really just a maniac, a -- how was it quoted? -- "destructive force"(?) and the plot revolves around having to deal with him moreso than the investigation of his logic/motivations, etc.

Unless you meant that Two-Face's appearance as Two-Face is a very small aspect of the film, in which case that's where the evidence certainly points.

[LiveWire777]

It doesn't have to be a "God awful" two toned suit. I'm fine with the burnt suit look for the first film, since Two Face is a very small aspect of the overall plot, and establishing his look would take too much time. For the third film though I think using the two-toned suit from TLH and DV would be fine. That suit looks good, without being over the top.
I just don't want to see anything like that tacky crimson animal stripe suit that Tommy Lee Jones had to sport in BMF,

*shudders*

[Nightwing1977]

Looks like bad CGI to me? I really hope Nolan uses as little CGI as possible with TwoFace; the scarred side.



I wouldn't worry about CGI. It will be only use for something that is too hard to do with makeup. Nolan is trying to use much of "practical" stuff as much as possible & use CGI on few thing as a last option.

It's hard to say what caused the burn. His hand is free of any scarring. What's kinda funny is how off the "offical" Two-face figure is. His hand and sleeve is free of burn. The face scarring is inaccurate as well.

You can see his sleeve are quite burned. And his hand are as well. It just not all over like in TAS & the comics. But he does has the burn look on his hand without a doubt. :)

[Kaizer]

You can see his sleeve are quite burned. And his hand are as well. It just not all over like in TAS & the comics. But he does has the burn look on his hand without a doubt. :)

.....where?

http://photos.imageevent.com/batmanonfilm/thedarkknightimages/TDK_twoface2_1.jpg

[Why So Cereal?]

Heh - I tend to be a bit short when I see something plain and simple like that :hehe:

There's a fun little thing I noticed when compiling caps for my analysis - in the shot with Gordon stepping out of the SUV, you can see this in the side-door window's reflection:

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9562/waynetowerreflectionit9.png



That boom mike is there because there are reporters in the scene of Gordon and the other dude leaving the car. Watch the 2nd trailer again (taste for the theatrical)

[Silver Knight]

Do you think we will actually see a pic of Two-Face before the movie comes out?

[doctorkenyon]

Do you think we will actually see a pic of Two-Face before the movie comes out?

I'm sure something will be leaked.

Having said that, here's hoping we don't.

[Silver Knight]

^Why is that?

Dont you want to see a cool poster?

[ActuallyRobin]

I reeeealy don't want to see 'proper' Two-Face pics before i see the film, and if any leak I will avoid them like the plague.

when i see Two-Face on screen for the first time I want to go wow and *jaw drop*

[Silver Knight]

Why is that may I ask.

[BruceWayne]

I reeeealy don't want to see 'proper' Two-Face pics before i see the film, and if any leak I will avoid them like the plague.

No you won't...the temptation will be too great for anyone.

[Silver Knight]

No you won't...the temptation will be too great for anyone.
Exactly.

[ActuallyRobin]

Stupid temptation :(

[Silver Knight]

Temptation is a terrible emotion.

[BruceWayne]

It will end up the same for everyone. Everyone will look then either be super excited or really p-ed off that they looked. But in the end, everyone will look.

[Silver Knight]

I think most will be pleased.

[Mr. Socko]

It doesn't have to be a "God awful" two toned suit. I'm fine with the burnt suit look for the first film, since Two Face is a very small aspect of the overall plot, and establishing his look would take too much time. For the third film though I think using the two-toned suit from TLH and DV would be fine. That suit looks good, without being over the top.

I'm also just fine with Nolan's Two Face not wearing a split suit, the burned suit look is fine. The problem arises when people then start saying the two tone suits suck and Nolan is doing us such a huge favor by getting rid of a visual element the character has retained since his creation. Then it just gets stupid.

Sure, the two tone suit is not necessary, just as Joker's purple suit isn't necessary, but both are great visual character traits that I'd like to be present.

[Cagefighterkip]

I reeeealy don't want to see 'proper' Two-Face pics before i see the film, and if any leak I will avoid them like the plague.

when i see Two-Face on screen for the first time I want to go wow and *jaw drop*

ditto,
that screencap from the trailer is the closest we'll get

[lixdexia]

I'm also just fine with Nolan's Two Face not wearing a split suit, the burned suit look is fine. The problem arises when people then start saying the two tone suits suck and Nolan is doing us such a huge favor by getting rid of a visual element the character has retained since his creation. Then it just gets stupid.

Sure, the two tone suit is not necessary, just as Joker's purple suit isn't necessary, but both are great visual character traits that I'd like to be present.
agreed

[Mr. Socko]

ditto,
that screencap from the trailer is the closest we'll get

Same here as well. I hope no full pics of Two Face leaks. I want there to be at least one surprise when I see it in theaters, Two Face will be it.

[BruceWayne]

Same here as well. I hope no full pics of Two Face leaks. I want there to be at least one surprise when I see it in theaters, Two Face will be it.

You'd still look....

[escobar2248]

Same here as well. I hope no full pics of Two Face leaks. I want there to be at least one surprise when I see it in theaters, Two Face will be it.

If they do, I'll be very pissed off. If they can keep a lid on it for this long....another 2.5 months is nothing.

[Mr. Socko]

You'd still look....


Yeah I would no doubt, I can't constrain myself. That's why I hope no Two Face pics are leaked:o

[The Dark Guybrush]

I will flip a coin- heads, I don't look, tails, well, you know..

[BruceWayne]

I think the only person that would probably be able to not look would be Jesus Chirst himself...and even I have some doubts about him not being able to resist the temptation of seeing what Two-Face looks like.

[Gallagher]

I think the only person that would probably be able to not look would be Jesus Chirst himself...and even I have some doubts about him not being able to resist the temptation of seeing what Two-Face looks like.

The last temptation of Christ :woot:

[Keyser Soze]

Here's the thing, though. If a picture of Two-Face is leaked, it won't become an issue of temptation. Nowhere on these boards will be safe. You'll get morons who'll just barge into this thread or the trailer thread or whatever, all like "OMGZ LOOK AT THIS PIC!" before posting the Two-Face picture with no warning.

[ShadowoftheBird]

Here's the thing, though. If a picture of Two-Face is leaked, it won't become an issue of temptation. Nowhere on these boards will be safe. You'll get morons who'll just barge into this thread or the trailer thread or whatever, all like "OMGZ LOOK AT THIS PIC!" before posting the Two-Face picture with no warning.

Keyser is right, of course.

What's more, it will be in people's avatars, gifs, everything.

One leaked Two-Face pic and this place goes from the SuperHeroHype Boards to the ScarredHalfHype Boards.

[BruceWayne]

Keyser is right, of course.

What's more, it will be in people's avatars, gifs, everything.

One leaked Two-Face pic and this place goes from the SuperHeroHype Boards to the ScarredHalfHype Boards.

Well not to start a long, drawn out discussion/arguement, but that's the risk you run while surfering through a spoiler forum. My only suggestion to avoid that is become a card carrying member of the Jett army.

[regwec]

I would rather be raped.

[cerealkiller182]

Its not about the forum. If someones avatar is a scarred dent and they wander into a forum thats not even about The Dark Knight than the image becomes spoiled

[BruceWayne]

Its not about the forum. If someones avatar is a scarred dent and they wander into a forum thats not even about The Dark Knight than the image becomes spoiled

Well, being a lurker for since '03, I could totally see the Mods posting something about no Two Face avatars. As much as I like these boards, some of the rules get a little out of hand...but that is the only way I can see fixing that little problem.

[ShadowoftheBird]

I would rather be raped.

Than see the picture or becoming Jetter?

In either event, cerealkiller is absolutely right. Avatars and pics are viral in nature. If you're an avid SHHer, you're bound to see it. What follows next will be an orgasm, followed by great disappointment and possible blindness.

[Keyser Soze]

Well not to start a long, drawn out discussion/arguement, but that's the risk you run while surfering through a spoiler forum. My only suggestion to avoid that is become a card carrying member of the Jett army.

I should have known that old "if you don't want to be spoiled don't come on the spoiler board" chestnut would rear its ugly head again.

The spoiler board is the place to be, if you want to talk about "The Dark Knight". If we were to leave the spoiler boards, the alternative would be going over to non-spoilers, and having conversations with ourselves. Or perhaps waiting 3 days for a single response. People who say "don't come to the spoiler boards" are essentially saying that those who don't want EVERYTHING spoiled should be punished by essentially being banished from active discussion about "The Dark Knight".

It doesn't have to be all or nothing. There is no reason why people with all different levels of spoiler thresholds can't co-exist peacefully on the spoiler boards. People just need to follow simple conventions of board etiquette, such as:

- Keeping major spoilers contained within specific threads
- Using the readily available spoiler tags if needing to discuss these major spoilers in other threads
- Avoid putting major spoilers in thread titles

It isn't hard to follow these rules. But some people are so selfish and so lazy, that they won't even do such small things like this to be considerate to their fellow posters. They need to think of it as an issue of balance. Those who know spoilers are inconvenienced for about 2 seconds, when adding spoiler tags. The alternative - everyone who wants to remain unspoiled leaving these boards - inconveniences these people for 2 months. So, what exactly is the fairer option here?

[therewasme]

Speaking of leaked pics.....

Spoil yourself on some concept art if you dare....

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/litg/2008/0505/dent_tdk.jpg

[cerealkiller182]

Well, being a lurker for since '03, I could totally see the Mods posting something about no Two Face avatars. As much as I like these boards, some of the rules get a little out of hand...but that is the only way I can see fixing that little problem.

Yeah i know. It kinda sucks that something like that should be enforced. I dont think its entirely fair. The whole concept of spoilerific avatars should be more of an unwritten rule

[The Dark Guybrush]

^ wow, that's pretty intense.
(yeah. I looked)

[ActuallyRobin]

Speaking of leaked pics.....

Spoil yourself on some concept art if you dare....

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/litg/2008/0505/dent_tdk.jpg

dats some crazeee **** yo

[Keyser Soze]

Speaking of leaked pics.....

Spoil yourself on some concept art if you dare....

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/litg/2008/0505/dent_tdk.jpg

HOLY CRAP!

I thought you said it was concept art, not an ACTUAL PICTURE OF TWO-FACE! :cmad:

[BruceWayne]

I should have known that old "if you don't want to be spoiled don't come on the spoiler board" chestnut would rear its ugly head again.

The spoiler board is the place to be, if you want to talk about "The Dark Knight". If we were to leave the spoiler boards, the alternative would be going over to non-spoilers, and having conversations with ourselves. Or perhaps waiting 3 days for a single response. People who say "don't come to the spoiler boards" are essentially saying that those who don't want EVERYTHING spoiled should be punished by essentially being banished from active discussion about "The Dark Knight".

It doesn't have to be all or nothing. There is no reason why people with all different levels of spoiler thresholds can't co-exist peacefully on the spoiler boards. People just need to follow simple conventions of board etiquette, such as:

- Keeping major spoilers contained within specific threads
- Using the readily available spoiler tags if needing to discuss these major spoilers in other threads
- Avoid putting major spoilers in thread titles

It isn't hard to follow these rules. But some people are so selfish and so lazy, that they won't even do such small things like this to be considerate to their fellow posters. They need to think of it as an issue of balance. Those who know spoilers are inconvenienced for about 2 seconds, when adding spoiler tags. The alternative - everyone who wants to remain unspoiled leaving these boards - inconveniences these people for 2 months. So, what exactly is the fairer option here?


Well in all fairness, the nature of this particular board is in the title. I understand your point and totally respect that. If I had a pic of Two Face right now, you can bet I'd follow the proper protocal. But again, those that don't want to be spoiled by everything, you run that risk by posting on these boards.

[BruceWayne]

Speaking of leaked pics.....

Spoil yourself on some concept art if you dare....

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/litg/2008/0505/dent_tdk.jpg

Awesome. How is that concept art??

[DaddyGrayson]

Is that real!?

[cerealkiller182]

Awesome. How is that concept art??

how is it not? I mean it doesnt have to be, but it totally can be

[Sarg92]

It looks real to me and very gruesome!

Nice!

[BruceWayne]

how is it not?

Well that's either a leaked picture of Harvey/Two-Face or someone that has some pretty good photoshop/sculpting skills...

[Keyser Soze]

Is that real!?

It must be, with that level of detail.

While I'm slightly annoyed at seeing it, that annoyance is somewhat muted by how awesome Two-Face looks.

The parts that particularly disgust me are the exposed bone on the chin, and the tendons on his neck.

[ActuallyRobin]

Well that's either a leaked picture of Harvey/Two-Face or someone that has some pretty good photoshop/sculpting skills...

it's real god damn tidy regardless of if it's official or not

[cerealkiller182]

Well that's either a leaked picture of Harvey/Two-Face or someone that has some pretty good photoshop/sculpting skills...

its definitely a sculpture. If theres possibly 4 other sculptures trying different styles then its concept art. I edited my initial post after youquoted it butbefore you poster. Even though it might not be, it still totally could be,.

[BruceWayne]

It must be, with that level of detail.

While I'm slightly annoyed at seeing it, that annoyance is somewhat muted by how awesome Two-Face looks.

The parts that particularly disgust me are the exposed bone on the chin, and the tendons on his neck.


That definately looks like fire damage IMO...

[DaddyGrayson]

Well that's something I DIDN'T want to see.... but it was very intense and has my definite approval.

[BruceWayne]

Does anyone have the exact source? There has to be an article explaining where that came from.

[Anita18]

it's real god damn tidy regardless of if it's official or not
Indeed! :wow:

I'm so glad this movie is coming out now rather than when I was a kid. :lmao: Man, I would have run screaming from the room.

Still, I expect it would be toned down somewhat for the PG-13. That's too much for the rating.

[ActuallyRobin]

Indeed! :wow:

I'm so glad this movie is coming out now rather than when I was a kid. :lmao: Man, I would have run screaming from the room.

Still, I expect it would be toned down somewhat for the PG-13. That's too much for the rating.

yeh that's reeealy intense and grusoe

[Keyser Soze]

I find it funny that we were all in the middle of talking about how "Oh I wouldn't look at a pic of Two-Face if it was leaked", then a bunch of us immediately look at it thinking its concept art. :woot:

[BruceWayne]

its definitely a sculpture. If theres possibly 4 other sculptures trying different styles then its concept art. I edited my initial post after youquoted it butbefore you poster. Even though it might not be, it still totally could be,.

Yea, I can see some maniquin qualities to it. If it is the final design though, what happened the the no straight line?

[Anita18]

That definately looks like fire damage IMO...

It doesn't to me. Fire would melt the skin - acid melts or corrodes depending on what it is. If it were fire, the skin would be melted off first, and probably wouldn't expose bone like that.

Still! I hope he's got a thorough morning routine to keep that clean! -shudders from the possibility of infection- But it's a movie anyway, sooo...:oldrazz:

[ShadowoftheBird]

I find it funny that we were all in the middle of talking about how "Oh I wouldn't look at a pic of Two-Face if it was leaked", then a bunch of us immediately look at it thinking its concept art. :woot:

If it's really that extreme, I'm probably going to crap my pants when he talks, each time.

Zombie movies, eat your hearts out. Wait, that's pretty much the theme of zombie movies.

[BruceWayne]

I find it funny that we were all in the middle of talking about how "Oh I wouldn't look at a pic of Two-Face if it was leaked", then a bunch of us immediately look at it thinking its concept art. :woot:

Would this qualify as "irony"......?

[DaddyGrayson]

I find it funny that we were all in the middle of talking about how "Oh I wouldn't look at a pic of Two-Face if it was leaked", then a bunch of us immediately look at it thinking its concept art. :woot:

I'm really pissed about that. I legitimately thought it was concept art.

[Anita18]

I find it funny that we were all in the middle of talking about how "Oh I wouldn't look at a pic of Two-Face if it was leaked", then a bunch of us immediately look at it thinking its concept art. :woot:
LOL I totally would have looked anyway. :hehe: I'm a spoiler-fiend, especially when it's something gruesome. I want to be able to brace myself first!

[BruceWayne]

It doesn't to me. Fire would melt the skin - acid melts or corrodes depending on what it is. If it were fire, the skin would be melted off first, and probably wouldn't expose bone like that.

Still! I hope he's got a thorough morning routine to keep that clean! -shudders from the possibility of infection- But it's a movie anyway, sooo...:oldrazz:

But there is definate charing of the flesh

[$klaary]

was that posted before?:http://www.joblo.com/two-face-information

[Gallagher]

I hate myself for looking...

BUT GOOD GOD THAT IS GRUESOME :wow:

Eckhart was right, we were thinkin small.

[Anita18]

But there is definate charing of the flesh
The blue color? "Charring" means black to me, and I don't see black. :oldrazz: Then again I've never seen a really bad acid burn so....

NO DON'T POST PICS OF ANY ACID BURNS OKAY THANK YOU!!! :wow:

[ShadowoftheBird]

BruceWayne is absolutely right about the nature of the damage. You can even tell where it was targeted judging on which points are most affected.

By that I mean that his face was pressed against the fire right next to his mouth and ears

[BruceWayne]

The blue color? "Charring" means black to me, and I don't see black. :oldrazz: Then again I've never seen a really bad acid burn so....

NO DON'T POST PICS OF ANY ACID BURNS OKAY THANK YOU!!! :wow:

I'm seeing definate black in that pic. His exposed mandable is even discolored like it was burned by fire.

[sclabguy]

are we sure that's real??

[Keyser Soze]

I'm really pissed about that. I legitimately thought it was concept art.

As did I.

[BruceWayne]

BruceWayne is absolutely right about the nature of the damage. You can even tell where it was targeted judging on which points are most affected.

By that I mean that his face was pressed against the fire right next to his mouth and ears

You can call me Bruce. :yay: I think I'm going to be a lot more active here until the release of the film.

[BruceWayne]

are we sure that's real??

If it's not, then Mike Hill has been working on something on the side....

[Keyser Soze]

I still can't get over how gruesome this looks. It really is "grab the sickbag" type stuff. "Saw" eat your heart out! :wow:

Another thing, look at that eyeball! It seems set to roll out his head!

[ShadowoftheBird]

As did I.

I'm a sinful person. I came back to the boards after stepping out for coffee, saw your post where you called it out as an "actual" picture, and immediately clicked. I enjoyed every second of it. I'm going to print a picture of that and keep it in my suit pocket. And then maybe I'll get it printed on a pillow sheet so I can stare at it when I go to sleep at night.

Two-Face is gruesome, but that has "please don't try this at home" written all over it.

[therewasme]

Speaking of leaked pics.....

Spoil yourself on some concept art if you dare....

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/litg/2008/0505/dent_tdk.jpg

Here's the original article text from http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=16292

"ITEM! Did you catch the side shot of post-accident Harvey Dent in the "Dark Knight" trailer?

Care to see the other side?

Seems to fit together quite nicely... Thank you to an anonymous LA source (who wishes to stay that way) with the concept artwork there."

Bold is mine as I'd just like to say that concept art can mean more than just a drawing.

[BruceWayne]

I still can't get over how gruesome this looks. It really is "grab the sickbag" type stuff. "Saw" eat your heart out! :wow:

Another thing, look at that eyeball! It seems set to roll out his head!

I know right? But eyes are locked pretty much in place by muscle and tentons. It take a lot to pop an eye out let along roll. Pretty creepy. Glad I already had my lunch break.

[$klaary]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/litg/2008/0505/dent_tdk.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/darthvader1025/Darkknight33.jpg

i don´t think it`s real

[Keyser Soze]

I know right? But eyes are locked pretty much in place by muscle and tentons. It take a lot to pop an eye out let along roll. Pretty creepy. Glad I already had my lunch break.

In "Dark Detective", one nice touch they included was that Two-Face carried around a bottle of eye-drops, which he needed to regularly apply to stop his eye drying up. I think judging by this pic, ol' Harvey will be needing one of those. :wow:

[Jokers_Wild]

Wow...I'm surprised SHH hasn't banned this pic and link yet...:wow:

[JStorm]

If that artwork is true.

Sick-nasty! :up:

[Rezzo]

Speaking of leaked pics.....

Spoil yourself on some concept art if you dare....

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/litg/2008/0505/dent_tdk.jpg

If that's real then wow, but if not it's still pretty cool. :up:

[Boom]

Uh...shouldn't his eye be more ****ed up than that? And the only reason I think it's concept art is because the teeth look a little fake.

Also, how is he going to talk? He's missing an entire cheek and half of his lips.

[itsthebatman]

I would rather be raped.
In a dark alley, 5 big thugs, all resembling Grant or Phil Mitchell, holding you at knifepoint, give you this choice.
Now, which would you rather?:cwink:

[BruceWayne]

In "Dark Detective", one nice touch they included was that Two-Face carried around a bottle of eye-drops, which he needed to regularly apply to stop his eye drying up. I think judging by this pic, ol' Harvey will be needing one of those. :wow:

No kidding..."not gonna get better if ya keep pickin' at it"...

[LiveWire777]

That pic looks so sick! I love it!! I ain't no dermatologist but those don't seem to be acid burns at all.

[ShadowoftheBird]

Wow...I'm surprised SHH hasn't banned this pic and link yet...:wow:

I saved it and printed it. Yum.

[MiniBond]

GOD......I have to go to the bathroom....py pizza is taking the mouth exit !!!!!!:wow::wow::wow::wow:

[ShadowoftheBird]

Boom, you might want to use one of these.

It's possible. Unfortunately, I've seen someone talk under these circumstances and the result is, well, a little eerie to listen to. Ever see Hannibal? It's something like that.

[Jokers_Wild]

That pic looks so sick! I love it!! I ain't no dermatologist but those don't seem to be acid burns at all.

It looks more like what I imagine would happen if you were doused with gasoline and allowed to burn for a while...very sick!

[BruceWayne]

Wow...I'm surprised SHH hasn't banned this pic and link yet...:wow:

I just see a sticky for leaked Joker pics....:cwink:

[MiniBond]

This pic is disgusting....in a good way !


I think it's legit.....the remaining haircut is the same as in other TDK shots, the suit seems right and Eckhart's normal face is unknown to me !!!

[Patty]

I just see a sticky for leaked Joker pics....:cwink:

which were equally awesome, by the way.

[Boom]

[spoiler]Boom, you might want to use one of these.
It has been done :up:.

[BruceWayne]

which were equally awesome, by the way.

Hell yea they were!!

[The Top Hat]

Oh my God. I wish I hasn't looked. It's so awesome, but I wish I didn't look.

I thought it was only going to be concept art, not the real thing. :(

[Puppet Johns]

if this is real, the toy pics that were leaked (if real, as well) make perfect sense given that they softened the look of The Joker for the kids line, that is something definitely would need to be altered for children.

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/litg/2008/0505/dent_tdk.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/darthvader1025/Darkknight33.jpg

i don´t think it`s real

Wow.
All the anatomy is perfectly correct, if it's a fake, it is really, really well done.

[$klaary]

http://www.joblo.com/two-face-information

[Boom]

There's only one way to find out.

Email the link to SHH!. If they post it on the main page, and it gets asked to be taken down, then we will know.

[ih8nyy]

If that's real then wow, but if not it's still pretty cool. :up:


I second that.

[Anjow1060]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/litg/2008/0505/dent_tdk.jpg

wow........that looks pretty legit.


has the same grain to it as the Joker-nurse pics.

Could be real.........

- Jow

[LongHalloween]

I am pretty sure it's legit. The char and suit match the trailer. I posted it on my blog and I'll let you know if I get asked to take it down. An investigator from WB came to my house after I posted the nurse pics so I'm sure they will be aware of me posting this one.

[batman44]

That is disturbingly awesome concept art, almost too good for concept art:up:....that is concept art right?

[Marden]

All in all it looks great, though it must have hurt like hell. But I'm wondering about one thing... He has different shirt for sure and maybe even suit in that new picture... Could be some concept, but I'm not against it if that is the final design.

[Boom]

I am pretty sure it's legit. I posted it on my blog and I'll let you know if I get asked to take it down. An investigator from WB came to my house after I posted the nurse pics so I'm sure they will be aware of me posting this one.
Hahaha you have got to be ****ting me.

[BruceWayne]

It's like a train wreck. You know you shouldn't look, but you can't take your eyes away from it. I'm just shock on how deep they went with the scaring.:wow:

There's no coming back from something like that.

[Crook]

Speaking of leaked pics.....

Spoil yourself on some concept art if you dare....

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/litg/2008/0505/dent_tdk.jpg
What in the world? I log on expecting some casual concept art, then I got bombarded with what looks to be a leaked pic? :funny: :huh: :(

I half expected at least a discussion of said pic before it's actually even posted. :cmad:

[Caped Crusader]

hope this is real !

its amazing !

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

If it's real, it will be awesome seeing the bare muscles work.
That's really gruesome stuff.

[Boom]

Dent's gonna get addicted to painkillers.

[itsthebatman]

What in the world? I log on expecting some casual concept art, then I got bombarded with what looks to be a leaked pic? :funny: :huh: :(

I half expected at least a discussion of said pic before it's actually even posted. :cmad:
If you don't want spoilers get out of the spoiler thread,mmmkay? N00b.

[LongHalloween]

Hahaha you have got to be ****ting me.

Unfortunately I'm not. I had high resolution images and an investigator from WB came to my house at 9 at night to help track the leak. He was a nice guy and I didn't get in trouble or anything but I was pretty scared at first. He said to keep the images in case he needed to contact me again but to not post them because they were very important to the studio.

[deathfromabove]

If you don't want spoilers get out of the spoiler thread,mmmkay? N00b.

hahhah i think you may be kidding but as silly as it sounds we bat boarders try to respect one another around here and not bombard each other with massive spoilers without warning.

who's the nOObie?

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmkkkkkkaaaaaaaaaayyy?

[ActuallyRobin]

Unfortunately I'm not. I had high resolution images and an investigator from WB came to my house at 9 at night to help track the leak. He was a nice guy and I didn't get in trouble or anything but I was pretty scared at first. He said to keep the images in case he needed to contact me again but to not post them because they were very important to the studio.

hmm, busted!

[Caped Crusader]

so this is real ?

[Anjow1060]

Unfortunately I'm not. I had high resolution images and an investigator from WB came to my house at 9 at night to help track the leak. He was a nice guy and I didn't get in trouble or anything but I was pretty scared at first. He said to keep the images in case he needed to contact me again but to not post them because they were very important to the studio.

..............


yeah.......ok. :whatever:

- Jow

[Crook]

Actually looking at it again, that definitely is concept art. Not in the sense that it is hand-drawn, but an actual pic of Eckhart was taken "in costume", and manipped to fit the look desired.

The eyes, mouth, and neck do look off to be an actual make-up application. It looks to be the real deal though. Who knows if it's the actual final design.

[Anjow1060]

could be concept for Vis FX. We know the eye and mouth and obviously the muscles under the cheeks are vis FX.

- Jow

[Prefix]

I don't like it. It's too much.

[BruceWayne]

Actually looking at it again, that definitely is concept art. Not in the sense that it is hand-drawn, but an actual pic of Eckhart was taken "in costume", and manipped to fit the look desired.

The eyes, mouth, and neck do look off to be an actual make-up application. It looks to be the real deal though. Who knows if it's the actual final design.

Well it's definately a sculpt. The amount of damage to the face is too deep for make up. I can't see any conceivable way to make a recess in the left cheek like that.

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

I don't like it. It's too much.

lol

[LiveWire777]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/litg/2008/0505/dent_tdk.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/darthvader1025/Darkknight33.jpg

i don´t think it`s real
Any one else get a hankering for some rotisserie chicken :cwink:

[Boom]

Yeah.

This is probably 95%-100% of the final design.

[Prefix]

lol
Looks like I'm about to be tarred and feathered.

[ActuallyRobin]

The timing of the leak/release of the pics certainly is curious.

[BruceWayne]

I don't like it. It's too much.

Actually, I'm starting to agree with you. The more I look at it, the more it seems like it's out of a horror movie. I know Two Face isn't supposed to be on any GQ covers, but this seems a tad bit extreme. You would think after an accident like that, you'd go into shock and ultimately die.

[MiniBond]

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/2088/bermejodent22be4724av5.jpg

inspiration ?????

[Crook]

I don't like it. It's too much.
I don't "like" it partly because of the charred/burnt concept, as opposed to the peeled flesh look I'm more used to. It's definitely an interesting design though.

[LongHalloween]

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yeah.......ok. :whatever:

- Jow

Send me a PM, I would be happy to forward emails to you from the investigator. He was a former Burbank police officer for 28 years who is now investigator at WB. I have no reason to lie about getting in trouble.

Here is my notice of ceasing the images and the ones from the investigator have personal information which I will not post publicly. I have been posting things for SHH since day one, this really shouldn't be a surprise.

Dear AngryWeb,

Your website is offering 4 images from THE DARK KNIGHT, consisting of Batman and the Joker characters. I have a good faith belief that such content is not authorized by Warner Bros., its agent, or the law and therefore infringes Warner Bros.’ rights.

Images to be removed are located at:
http://angryweb.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/new-dark-knight-images-leaked/

I swear, under penalty of perjury, that the information in the notification is accurate and that I am the copyright owner or am authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.

Please confirm that you have taken the appropriate action at your earliest convenience. Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter and please advise should you have any questions or require any additional information.

Thank you,

/mb

[Mr. Credible]

damn, i just saw the pic on chud.com, and all i have to say is "wow".

if that's real, it's easily the best thing about this movie so far. they forking knocked that out of the park, and into the next county, and then some.

if it's real, of course. i'm not sure how this movie could stay pg-13 with images like that.

[Boom]

damn, i just saw the pic on chud.com, and all i have to say is "wow".

if that's real, it's easily the best thing about this movie so far. they forking knocked that out of the park, and into the next county, and then some.

if it's real, of course. i'm not sure how this movie could stay pg-13 with images like that.
They got away with showing a charred/chopped up Anakin.

[Harvey_Dent]

Wow....i like that :) It looks very dark....but better than the pink/red from TLH and DV :)

[LiveWire777]

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/2088/bermejodent22be4724av5.jpg

inspiration ?????
This pic looks more fleshy and muscley opposed to the other one that looks charred and crusty.

[Riven]

I don't like it. It's too much.
I agree. It is too much.

I mean, I expected something pretty grotesque, but this is insanely disgusting... :csad:

[Batman]

...

You know, I thought I'd never say this, but compared to Nolan's Two-Face... Sale's actually looks pretty tame (which, given his Two-Face was the most grotesque one in the comics in my opinion, says something). Goddamn, did they do a great job with that makeup. I love it.

[BruceWayne]

...

You know, I thought I'd never say this, but compared to Nolan's Two-Face... Sale's actually looks pretty tame (which, given his Two-Face was the most grotesque one in the comics in my opinion, says something). Goddamn, did they do a great job with that makeup. I love it.

There's got to be a med student somewhere on these boards. Someone would die from these injuries, wouldn't you think? At least major shock...

[LiveWire777]

I agree. It is too much.

I mean, I expected something pretty grotesque, but this is insanely disgusting... :csad:
Well what can u expect if u wanted a realistic take on Twoface?

[MiniBond]

, but this is insanely disgusting... :csad:

That's why I like it !!


And with the CGI added...........MAN this is gonna rock !!:grin::grin::grin:

I knew Two face would be the cheryy on top after all that Joker hysteria !!!
:brucebat:

[Boom]

There's got to be a med student somewhere on these boards. Someone would die from these injuries, wouldn't you think? At least major shock...
Morphiiiiine.

[BruceWayne]

Morphiiiiine.

Infection...

[Crook]

There's got to be a med student somewhere on these boards. Someone would die from these injuries, wouldn't you think? At least major shock...
Not everyone dies from major shock.

[Boom]

Infection...
Diabeetus.

[Figs]

If that is real I'm loving it!

I wonder how many fans are going to think they went to far with the look.

[redfirebird2008]

Holy crap that looks amazing. So Begins has a "disturbing images" in its MPAA rating but TDK doesn't? How much sense does that make? Two-Face, if done right and taken seriously, IS a disturbing image. I'm thinking WB paid 'em to not slap that label on there. LOL.

[BruceWayne]

Diabeetus.

Insuline shots....??

[Hurm...]

Ok, I'm late?


There are leaked pics? And are they real?


Info please.

[ActuallyRobin]

Diabeetus.

Did someone say diabeetus?

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/9223/theresnothing1285436642wg3.jpg

[Dark Knigh7]

There's got to be a med student somewhere on these boards. Someone would die from these injuries, wouldn't you think? At least major shock...Nope, you'll live, extremely realistic.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go jump off a skyscraper with my cape that turns to a glider.

[LiveWire777]

Did someone say diabeetus?

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/9223/theresnothing1285436642wg3.jpg
Lmao

[redfirebird2008]

Nope, you'll live, extremely realistic.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go jump off a skyscraper with my cape that turns to a glider.

:hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe:

[LongHalloween]

Nope, you'll live, extremely realistic.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go jump off a skyscraper with my cape that turns to a glider.

Bravo...

[Boom]

Did someone say diabeetus?

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/9223/theresnothing1285436642wg3.jpg
It's so sad :csad:.

[Mr. Thing]

My god, think of the infections he would get.

[BruceWayne]

Nope, you'll live, extremely realistic.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go jump off a skyscraper with my cape that turns to a glider.

Hi-larious...:whatever:

[Prefix]

Well what can u expect if u wanted a realistic take on Twoface?That's the thing. I would have thought a realistic Two Face would've toned down the scarring.

But honestly, it's not a realism thing. It's purely aesthetic.

[Zacky]

I hope it real because i just piss my pants and i have it on my psp

[Caped Crusader]

Did someone say diabeetus?

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/9223/theresnothing1285436642wg3.jpg

lmao !

[Fred-Green]

i dont know how to feel about the look.

its too dark, i would have liked something a little more flesh or red colored.
maybe its the quality of the pic but it even looks like lizard skin in some places haha

one things for sure, i HOPE they make the eye and teeth look real

i think that last part is whats bothering me. cause all in all it looks pretty good

[ActuallyRobin]

Lmao

*bows*

It's so sad :csad:.

Yes, the tragedy *sobs*

[Omega Wizard]

Are the pics legit??

[Boom]

Are the pics legit??
No word from any admins yet.

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

i dont know how to feel about the look.

its too dark, i would have liked something a little more flesh or red colored.
maybe its the quality of the pic but it even looks like lizard skin in some places haha

one things for sure, i HOPE they make the eye and teeth look real

i think that last part is whats bothering me. cause all in all it looks pretty good

The teeth do not move and only the bottom teeth move when the jaw is lowered. The movement will be in the muscles next to the mouth.

[ActuallyRobin]

lmao !

I can't see any other reason why he'd need to be held back like that :)

[JaD]

If those pics are real, I'm not entirely upset that I saw them, i know it'll be nothing to the real thing

[MiniBond]

The movement will be in the muscles next to the mouth.


one word again......disgusting !!!!:woot::woot::wow::wow:

[LiveWire777]

That's the thing. I would have thought a realistic Two Face would've toned down the scarring.

But honestly, it's not a realism thing. It's purely aesthetic.
Seems pretty realistic to me especially if the wound is still fresh. Theres a bunch of stories of people around the world being involved in disfiguring accidents and coming out with there faces looking like a charred piece off flesh and bone

[Fred-Green]

The teeth do not move and only the bottom teeth move when the jaw is lowered. The movement will be in the muscles next to the mouth.
im just worried if they can make it look right. i wouldn't wanna a rubbery looking two-face. hmm, that exposed part of the mouth. i would imagine that would give him a nasty speech impediment

[BruceWayne]

The teeth do not move and only the bottom teeth move when the jaw is lowered. The movement will be in the muscles next to the mouth.

I can see the movement reminding me of the first Pirates movie.

[Omega Wizard]

No word from any admins yet.
It looks like a really, really good manip. If they get banned on here Ill believe it.

For those that havent seen, heres a link
http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/litg/2008/0505/dent_tdk.jpg

[Riven]

Well what can u expect if u wanted a realistic take on Twoface?
STOP saying the word realistic to defend anything.


I expected something, for lack of a better term "realistic", something harsh and even somewhat disturbing, but not necessarily something that makes me wanna throw up. There's different levels of how far you can go with this and I feel here they went too far.

Plus, think of the commercial side... Parental groups BOYCOTTED Batman Returns cause occasionally some black spittle came out of the Penguin's mouth. How's this fright-show runaway gonna go over with the moms of America ya think?

[Kaizer]

i would imagine that would give him a nasty speech impediment

Harvey and Bruce can have a lisping-fight :oldrazz:

[Dark Knigh7]

Hi-larious...:whatever:Its just a joke, don't take it to personally.

I mean, its just a movie. We all know that Nolan is going for a more realistic tone, but you still have to suspend you belief.

You wouldn't be Brev from other forums would ya?

[Manosman]

I don't know if this is real or not, just some concept art, or a really good hoax, but if it is real, how did they get a pg-13 rating? I can see it now, all the parents who bring their kids to see tdk, those kids are going to have major nightmares, with the joker we're getting and now a grotesque two-face, just wow

[BruceWayne]

STOP saying the word realistic to defend anything.


I expected something, for lack of a better term "realistic", something harsh and even somewhat disturbing, but not necessarily something that makes me wanna throw up. There's different levels of how far you can go with this and I feel here they went too far.

Plus, think of the commercial side... Parental groups BOYCOTTED Batman Returns cause occasionally some black spittle came out of the Penguin's mouth. How's this fright-show runaway gonna go over with the moms of America ya think?

Tim Drake on BTAS used to call him "Ol' Puke-Face".:oldrazz:

[Fred-Green]

Parental groups BOYCOTTED Batman Returns cause occasionally some black spittle came out of the Penguin's mouth. How's this fright-show runaway gonna go over with the moms of America ya think?
i always hated parental groups. always boycotting never parenting

[Patty]

I dont know wether this has been brought up yet, but now that I see how scarred dent becomes, I imagine Joker giving 2 Face and NOT bat man the "You've changed things... forever" (Talking about Dent cracking down on the mob/crooked cops) "Theres no goin back" and "To them, yer just a freak... like me" (referring to dents scars)

Think about it, batman has to simply remove his mask... dent and jokers are permanent.

Sorry if its been pointed out already. Ive just been chewin that over all mornin

[BruceWayne]

Its just a joke, don't take it to personally.

I mean, its just a movie. We all know that Nolan is going for a more realistic tone, but you still have to suspend you belief.

You wouldn't be Brev from other forums would ya?

No worries man. I knew you were just crackin' wise.

[Prefix]

Because Two Face appears in TDK for such a short time they can get away with how severe the scarring is, but in the sequel where he will be a main character, that might push it to an R rating. Which isn't good. Maybe the third movie will be set a few months later, when the burns have healed over.

[Dark Knigh7]

STOP saying the word realistic to defend anything.


I expected something, for lack of a better term "realistic", something harsh and even somewhat disturbing, but not necessarily something that makes me wanna throw up. There's different levels of how far you can go with this and I feel here they went too far.

Plus, think of the commercial side... Parental groups BOYCOTTED Batman Returns cause occasionally some black spittle came out of the Penguin's mouth. How's this fright-show runaway gonna go over with the moms of America ya think?
Times change, and people learn from stupid things like that. Do you remember when Mortal Kombat first came out, and parents were banning that? Now, parents are buying their kids Grand Theft AutoIV, just for the hell of it.

[Caped Crusader]

Because Two Face appears in TDK for such a short time they can get away with how severe the scarring is, but in the sequel where he will be a main character, that might push it to an R rating. Which isn't good. Maybe the third movie will be set a few months later, when the burns have healed over.

If any Batman movie was to be rated R this would be it.. so i highly doubt the next one might push it

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

Plus, think of the commercial side... Parental groups BOYCOTTED Batman Returns cause occasionally some black spittle came out of the Penguin's mouth. How's this fright-show runaway gonna go over with the moms of America ya think?

Free promotion.

[Fred-Green]

I dont know wether this has been brought up yet, but now that I see how scarred dent becomes, I imagine Joker giving 2 Face and NOT bat man the "You've changed things... forever" (Talking about Dent cracking down on the mob/crooked cops) "Theres no goin back" and "To them, yer just a freak... like me" (referring to dents scars)

Think about it, batman has to simply remove his mask... dent and jokers are permanent.

Sorry if its been pointed out already. Ive just been chewin that over all mornin

i would prefer if that was directed at batman, considering the escalation thing. since batman started his crusade gotham has been over run with freaks and is, in some ways, worse off. im glad they're is finally a movie that shows that

[Rezzo]

Because Two Face appears in TDK for such a short time they can get away with how severe the scarring is, but in the sequel where he will be a main character, that might push it to an R rating. Which isn't good. Maybe the third movie will be set a few months later, when the burns have healed over.

There will never be an R rated Batman movie.

[Patty]

i would prefer if that was directed at batman, considering the escalation thing. since batman started his crusade gotham has been over run with freaks and is, in some ways, worse off. im glad they're is finally a movie that shows that

I just love the idea of joker using someone by pointing out that theyre both "scarred freaks". It seems awesome that hed play that card due to the fact that he emphasizes his scars so dramatically.

[Kaizer]

they got away with something similar for The Mummy, this'll be fine.

[CaptainGenerica]

Because Two Face appears in TDK for such a short time they can get away with how severe the scarring is, but in the sequel where he will be a main character, that might push it to an R rating. Which isn't good. Maybe the third movie will be set a few months later, when the burns have healed over.

That's what I was thinking, too. I also could see Dent going for some plastic surgery to fix the more extreme wounds, but it it won't be enough, and he'll still be horribly disfigured.