View Full Version : Harvey Dent/Two Face Thread
Octoberist
05-06-2008, 12:23 AM
let's say it's a fellow who like burlap masks.
Lead_Tester
05-06-2008, 12:24 AM
oh crap im getting pm's now lol..
about what?
bluedragon77
05-06-2008, 12:32 AM
about what?
nothin...:whatever:
LastSunrise1981
05-06-2008, 12:33 AM
I'm glad I missed the leaked Two Face photo. I don't want to see him in full glory until the actual film.
thatsabadoutfit
05-06-2008, 12:37 AM
about what?
A leaked unfinished 3-D photo of Harvey Dent as Two-Face emerged over at CBC and it was removed at he request of Warners Film Division. I couldn't get the high-res pic, but I have the thumbnail of it.
I'm very disappointed in the look.
let's say it's a fellow who like burlap masks.
i dont see that anywhere in the trailer
Web-Head
05-06-2008, 12:39 AM
Just saw it.
If thats concept art just imagine what we'll get in the movie. :wow:
bluedragon77
05-06-2008, 12:39 AM
i dont see that anywhere in the trailer
its scarecrow when batman jumps on the car roof
The Caped Knight
05-06-2008, 12:39 AM
DAMN Two-Face in that picture look a lot like BTAS (BATMAN : The Animated series ) version
http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/batman/btas/bios/twoface/15.jpg
I love it .
The Original Bamfer
05-06-2008, 12:41 AM
DAMN Two-Face in that picture look a lot like BTAS (BATMAN : The Animated series ) version
http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/batman/btas/bios/twoface/15.jpg
I love it .
It does? :huh:
bluedragon77
05-06-2008, 12:41 AM
DAMN Two-Face in that picture look a lot like BTAS (BATMAN : The Animated series ) version
http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/batman/btas/bios/twoface/15.jpg
I love it .
not really in my opinion, just the color somewhat and the open mouth, everything else looks really different to me at least..
combusticator
05-06-2008, 12:45 AM
Question 'bout Two-Face in the comics:
In the cartoon's origin story, Harvey had issues with his "Big Bad Harvey" ...I'm assuming right by imagining this was the same for Harvey in the comics too before he became Two Face right?
And if so, they're going to address this in movie aren't they? Any rumors or tidbits about that? I just don't want him to suddenly change after the accident. It makes more sense that he has issues, and the accident is what pushes him over the edge.
mcallima
05-06-2008, 12:53 AM
Question 'bout Two-Face in the comics:
In the cartoon's origin story, Harvey had issues with his "Big Bad Harvey" ...I'm assuming right by imagining this was the same for Harvey in the comics too before he became Two Face right?
And if so, they're going to address this in movie aren't they? Any rumors or tidbits about that? I just don't want him to suddenly change after the accident. It makes more sense that he has issues, and the accident is what pushes him over the edge.
No, Big Bad Harv was only in BTAS.
Katsuro
05-06-2008, 12:54 AM
Question 'bout Two-Face in the comics:
In the cartoon's origin story, Harvey had issues with his "Big Bad Harvey" ...I'm assuming right by imagining this was the same for Harvey in the comics too before he became Two Face right?
Wrong. Big Bad Harv was made up by the cartoon. In the comics he was purely good before the transformation. He may have had some kind of latent psychosis, but it never manifested itself in any way. No split personality or anything.
Looks almost certain it'll be the same in the movie. Much better, I think.
combusticator
05-06-2008, 12:59 AM
Wrong. Big Bad Harv was made up by the cartoon. In the comics he was purely good before the transformation. He may have had some kind of latent psychosis, but it never manifested itself in any way. No split personality or anything.
Looks almost certain it'll be the same in the movie. Much better, I think.
Interesting! I did not know that. So after that happened to him in the comics, did he have similarities to the cartoon...as in, there were some good sides to him, and he'd flip the coin to let people off the hook?
TNC9852002
05-06-2008, 01:00 AM
It doesn't look like the cartoon at all, IMO. I mean, as far as comparing the likeness of the same character anyway.
I liked what the cartoon did with Big Bad Harv and sort of have Dent dealing with latent schizophrenia and all. Even before he was deformed, he carried around a coin and everything, occasionally getting these little violent tantrums.
-TNC
Uber Venom
05-06-2008, 01:05 AM
Saw the pic.....I feel bad for Dent already.
TNC9852002
05-06-2008, 01:08 AM
Anyone else really love Richard Moll's voice for Two-Face?
-TNC
Cronus
05-06-2008, 01:09 AM
http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/image/TwoFace_3.jpg
the concept art looks a lot like this!!! not like the animated series two face!!:word:... or other hand i must say its a lot like "The Long Halloween" two face!
CrypticOne
05-06-2008, 01:09 AM
Saw the pic.....I feel bad for Dent already.
Yeah, I know man. He is going to be going through some hard times in this movie.
I can't wait to see Dent's story arch unfold, sure to be tragic.
Silver Knight
05-06-2008, 01:10 AM
Wait...
What pic?
tekcopedis
05-06-2008, 01:11 AM
DAMN Two-Face in that picture look a lot like BTAS (BATMAN : The Animated series ) version
http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/batman/btas/bios/twoface/15.jpg
I love it .
Actually, just predictively Nolan, he looks very much like The Long Halloween Two Face except for the suit:
http://www.vacuumboy9.com/tlh/13p23.jpg
I wish I could post the leaked one for comparison, but if you have seen it/have it you can see the similarities very quick.
OctaviusINC
05-06-2008, 01:12 AM
Wait...
What pic?
A "concept" picture of Two Face was leaked. It's basically half Eckhart half Mummy.
TNC9852002
05-06-2008, 01:12 AM
Check it out if you haven't already:
Rsb7rho72QM
-TNC
Caped Crusader
05-06-2008, 01:12 AM
Everyone is gonna feel terrible for Dent when he turns, going from a man doing nothing but great things then getting it all taking away from him
This will be the first time we see the highest of the high and the lowest of the low for Harvey Dent in the same film..
CaptainClown
05-06-2008, 01:12 AM
is it gone? Is it safe?
CrypticOne
05-06-2008, 01:13 AM
Actually, just predictively Nolan, he looks very much like The Long Halloween Two Face except for the suit:
http://www.vacuumboy9.com/tlh/13p23.jpg
I wish I could post the leaked one for comparison, but if you have seen it/have it you can see the similarities very quick.
Yeah, this one is really similar.
CrypticOne
05-06-2008, 01:14 AM
is it gone? Is it safe?
The leaked pic?
CaptainClown
05-06-2008, 01:15 AM
The leaked pic?
aye
CrypticOne
05-06-2008, 01:16 AM
aye
Yeah, it's gone.
$klaary
05-06-2008, 01:16 AM
A PG-13 Movie and this pic, that doesn`t work for me. I think they softed the final version.
HopeOfTheFuture
05-06-2008, 01:18 AM
Damn, after seeing the leaked pic, I guess scarred Dent will be taking painkillers all the time with such a face and those open wounds....
tigerknight
05-06-2008, 01:19 AM
Wow saw the pic, but it doesn't feel like Nolan's Version of Realism.
CrypticOne
05-06-2008, 01:21 AM
Yeah, after seeing the leaked pic, imagine what that does to your personality if your Dent, everytime you look in the mirror. Plus, if you lose a loved one. Man o' man. It sucks to be Harvey. But to me, he is one of the best characters in the franchise, and definitely in my top three characters of the Batman series.
tekcopedis
05-06-2008, 01:21 AM
Another angle:
http://www.vacuumboy9.com/tlh/13p38.jpg
I really hope if they use any shots from The Long Halloween, that they use the all three of them on the roof with Harvey Dent and then repeat the same scene with Two-Face. For people who read the comics, you know what I am talking about...
Would be fricken' sweet!
TheBatman072
05-06-2008, 01:23 AM
Yeah, after seeing the leaked pic, imagine what that does to your personality if your Dent, everytime you look in the mirror. Plus, if you lose a loved one. Man o' man. It sucks to be Harvey. But to me, he is one of the best characters in the franchise, and definitely in my top three characters of the Batman series.
If it was me? I'd probably think it was cool.
I wonder what that says about MY psychosis...
TNC9852002
05-06-2008, 01:58 AM
I'd go insane too if my face looked like that.
-TNC
ironwez20
05-06-2008, 01:59 AM
omg
Shoemeister
05-06-2008, 02:00 AM
Two-Face was the final piece of the puzzle and the verdict is now officially in:
Christopher Nolan is God.
Mr. Superhero
05-06-2008, 02:01 AM
Just seen the leaked picture, and now I understand what Eckhart means when he says that Nolan has gone completely beyond anything that us fans have preconceived.
Damn, that's gotta' friggin' hurt.
Erok213
05-06-2008, 02:02 AM
Question 'bout Two-Face in the comics:
In the cartoon's origin story, Harvey had issues with his "Big Bad Harvey" ...I'm assuming right by imagining this was the same for Harvey in the comics too before he became Two Face right?
And if so, they're going to address this in movie aren't they? Any rumors or tidbits about that? I just don't want him to suddenly change after the accident. It makes more sense that he has issues, and the accident is what pushes him over the edge.
Actually, you're original assumptions were correct.
While the BTAS, to my knowledge, coined the term "Big Bad Harvey," the notion that Dent had deep-seated psychological and anger issues was well established in comics.
And like BTAS, in the comics, Dent struggled with his fractured personality -- trying his best to suppress and hide it from family, colleagues, and the viewing public.
Although in several comics, Harvey's split personality stems from a highly abusive childhood. Naturally, the cartoon shielded this particular detail from its target audience. And they created the 'Big Bad Harv' gimmick as a simple, child-friendly way to reference Dent's underlying psychological issues and struggles.
The comics, though, usually handled it in more complex and nuanced fashion.
If you're interested in this particular take on Dent and how it plays into the origin of Two-Face, look up the comic, "The Eye of the Beholder" from Batman Annual #14 (1990).
IMO - its the best Two Face origin story. And it's one of my favorite comics.
But as to whether the film references or addresses Harvey's personality and/or anger issues -- who knows?
I'd like it if they did. But they could also go the total 'white knight turned bad guy' route - and have Dent's scarring be the big haymaker that fries his mind. As opposed to it being catalyst that causes his two warring personalities to split and simultaneously co-exist with equal influence.
Regardless of how much or little they hint at Harvey's past or 'anger' issues -- I'm very much looking forward to finally seeing the character respectfully and maturely depicted on screen.
Two Face can be a DEEP character. July 18th can't get here soon enough.
Kaizer
05-06-2008, 02:03 AM
well, at least in the shot from the trailer, it doesn't appear as if the bone is visible on the chin as in the photo.
bluedragon77
05-06-2008, 02:07 AM
IRONWEZ20 i would edit that if i were u, could get banned for asking..
Mr. Superhero
05-06-2008, 02:09 AM
Also, another thing I love about this design is how much the audience is going to awe in shock when Two-Face is finally revealed.
That's going to be a great moment.
bluedragon77
05-06-2008, 02:10 AM
well, at least in the shot from the trailer, it doesn't appear as if the bone is visible on the chin as in the photo.
is it me or does the burned half in the trailer look really odd, especially in a creen cap of it, it looks really noisy or something, not smooth and realistic looking. is it just me?
The Battousai
05-06-2008, 02:10 AM
Also, another thing I love about this design is how much the audience is going to awe in shock when Two-Face is finally revealed.
That's going to be a great moment.
You mean *gasp*, right? :oldrazz: :cwink:
mrsparkle
05-06-2008, 02:11 AM
Pretty darn close. :word:
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i234/mrsparckle/demiseofdent.jpg
joker-hwd
05-06-2008, 02:11 AM
lol
ironwez20
05-06-2008, 02:11 AM
thanks for the heads up bluedragon
Mr. Superhero
05-06-2008, 02:11 AM
You mean *gasp*, right? :oldrazz: :cwink:
Yes! That's exactly the word I was looking for.
What a fine, fine addition you are to the human race. :cwink:
Fred-Green
05-06-2008, 02:11 AM
is it me or does the burned half in the trailer look really odd, especially in a creen cap of it, it looks really noisy or something, not smooth and realistic looking. is it just me?
i noticed that... it looks like the edges of the burned part are pixelated. or something
Fred-Green
05-06-2008, 02:13 AM
some one im the link to me please
:wow:
silance ! you're gonna get banned :wow:
The Battousai
05-06-2008, 02:14 AM
Yes! That's exactly the word I was looking for.
What a fine, fine addition you are to the human race. :cwink:
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w160/backtothefront88/word%20pics/jokerthrowsrachelwide1.jpg
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w160/backtothefront88/word%20pics/aiseewhatyoudidthere.jpg
Wrong. Big Bad Harv was made up by the cartoon. In the comics he was purely good before the transformation. He may have had some kind of latent psychosis, but it never manifested itself in any way. No split personality or anything.
Looks almost certain it'll be the same in the movie. Much better, I think.
Well, his history was sort of expanded upon, giving him a bit more of a tragic past with regards to his father.
But again, The Long Halloween will give you a good idea. It is a very Harvey centric story, and shows him with a darker side pre-TwoFace. Mind you, the "darker" side is more of his conflicts within about how he works his ass off to rid the city of crime, and yet mob bosses and such basically buy their own justice.
Also, TLH is a huge influence on, and reference for, TDK, and similarly, it has Dent turning to Two Face with a more vigilante slant at first.
joker-hwd
05-06-2008, 02:16 AM
guy please lemme get a link
TNC9852002
05-06-2008, 02:16 AM
i noticed that... it looks like the edges of the burned part are pixelated. or something
Yeah, I pointed that out some time ago. I don't believe it looked like that when I caught it in theaters. In theaters, the left side of his face always looked plain pink.
-TNC
bluedragon77
05-06-2008, 02:16 AM
thanks for the heads up bluedragon
np, same goes for you joker.. dont ask you will get banned..
totaljim
05-06-2008, 02:17 AM
so..
having not seen the pic as it's been removed, is it something i'd WANT to see..?
as in, is the pic worth spoiling seeing two-face..?
cos i remember a TON of people saying they DON'T want two-face spoilt but now everyone's saying how great the pic is..
so give me an idea of how great it is and i'll try to look it up or forget about it..
some one im the link to me please
:wow:
Yeah, you don't wanna be asking for that.
What is with people and not reading the bold notices right first thing they see when they come in?
Anita18
05-06-2008, 02:18 AM
You mean *gasp*, right? :oldrazz: :cwink:
Or puke. Or go, "Aaaaah!" in vicarious pain.
The Battousai
05-06-2008, 02:19 AM
Or puke. Or go, "Aaaaah!" in vicarious pain.
Whichever one :cwink:
bluedragon77
05-06-2008, 02:21 AM
so..
having not seen the pic as it's been removed, is it something i'd WANT to see..?
as in, is the pic worth spoiling seeing two-face..?
cos i remember a TON of people saying they DON'T want two-face spoilt but now everyone's saying how great the pic is..
so give me an idea of how great it is and i'll try to look it up or forget about it..
cant really say how great it is, everybody has a differne topinion but i will say its really close to the long halloween and way more gruesome then u think, think zombie and your on the right track.. its a good look but its up to you if you will think its great.. the rundown i can remember is theres a more or less straight line down his face, hes burnt beyond reconition, his mouth is exposed completly, and you can see all the muscle and even some bone.. his eyeball is fully exposed, um.. hes charcol greyish not really fresh flesh.. his suit is burnt from what i could see.. his hair is gone from that side of his face.. thats about it, just make up your mind..
MrP3118
05-06-2008, 02:21 AM
I wonder how Two-Face looks like threw fear gas.
bluedragon77
05-06-2008, 02:22 AM
I wonder how Two-Face looks like threw fear gas.
chances are he might not get fear gassed, and maybe jumping on a limb here but what if that is the fear gas version??
Mr. Superhero
05-06-2008, 02:22 AM
I wonder how Two-Face looks like threw fear gas.
Something we'll never get to see, unfortunately.
Or so I'm guessing.
TNC9852002
05-06-2008, 02:25 AM
chances are he might not get fear gassed, and maybe jumping on a limb here but what if that is the fear gas version??
Those chances seem extremely low, given my understanding of the movie's storyline.
-TNC
Joker4Halloween
05-06-2008, 02:25 AM
The pic is close. His scarred eye is more red.
totaljim
05-06-2008, 02:25 AM
meh..
i reckon if it's so touchy for everyone to be up in arms about, i can probably wait..
i've been far too spoilt on these boards as it is..
no point crossing the line..
ah, i wish i were clever enough to come up with some line about being on the good side and crossing to the bad side with some use of scarring/burning imagery in regards to trying to find this pic..
but i'm too tired..
in the end, it'd be sweet to see it,. but it'd be better to wait..
i'll probably end up coming across it by accident later anyway..
TNC9852002
05-06-2008, 02:27 AM
In regards to the leaked concept art, I think if his eye is made a little bit red, then it'd be perfect. I'd expect a little puss and saliva to be dripping down the side of his face a bit too. But....I guess there's so much to take into account for a PG-13 rating.
-TNC
bluedragon77
05-06-2008, 02:28 AM
Those chances seem extremely low, given my understanding of the movie's storyline.
-TNC
well what i mean is that maybe it was just an early concept that somebody got ahold of and thought it to be real or knew and just passed it off as official.. either way thats disgusting lol. i doubt they are gonna fear gas twoface tho..
ActuallyRobin
05-06-2008, 02:39 AM
the WB ninjas haven't take it down from everywhere it seems.
I've had time to think about the pic now, and yeh, I'm happy with the look now.
bluedragon77
05-06-2008, 02:41 AM
well what i mean is that maybe it was just an early concept that somebody got ahold of and thought it to be real or knew and just passed it off as official.. either way thats disgusting lol. i doubt they are gonna fear gas twoface tho..
what the hell my post count went down.. i swear posts are getting deleted as im typing..
MrP3118
05-06-2008, 02:42 AM
well what i mean is that maybe it was just an early concept that somebody got ahold of and thought it to be real or knew and just passed it off as official.. either way thats disgusting lol. i doubt they are gonna fear gas twoface tho..
I just thought the concept of seeing Two-Face on fear gas would be pretty cool. I heard on the forums that the Joker and Scarecrow might have something along the lines of that. Joker threw fear gas=awesomeness.
tekcopedis
05-06-2008, 02:42 AM
That is seriously messed up dude, why in the hell would you post something like that? Sick bastard.
I just find it funny and ignorant that people would scream that the concept art is unrealistic when anyone who has seen someone's flesh catch fire would agree that they nailed what that looks like.
You ever toasted a marshmallow? Notice how the insides turn off-yellow and the outside turns hard black with many cracks into it as it shrinks? That is because a marshmallow is loaded with sugar (which burns easily) and is carbon based which means when heated it turns more into a hard carbon like substance.
Now, imagine if the marshmallow was a living thing. Same reaction.
When you catch on fire, the fire will feed off of your fat reserves stored in your skin while the skin goes through a chemical reaction turning into a hard carbon form and thus killing the cells.
What you are left with is raw and damaged blood vessels and tissue underneath with a hard dead hard carbon-based that was once was the skin.
The first kid was the unfortunate victim of being set on fire and has yet to be treated or healed. The woman below was a person who's someone threw acid at her face when she was 14 and had a chance to heal, but it shows the extent of deformities when your skin is eroded away even after healing.
Since we are going to see Harvey shortly after he was burned and before he can receive medical treatment, that concept art would be a close match to someone would actually look like if someone's face was burned extensively.
BTW, the reason why you rarely see the black carbonized skin is because they scrape that off with a wire brush when you arrive in the hospital. Like what Richard Prior said in his act, its a process that is painful beyond belief.
The Original Bamfer
05-06-2008, 02:43 AM
what the hell my post count went down.. i swear posts are getting deleted as im typing..
You would be correct. And, perhaps, if people were concerned about their post counts, they wouldn't quote and comment on a post containing a graphic and disturbing image. :cwink:
You would be correct. And, perhaps, if people were concerned about their post counts, they wouldn't quote and comment on a post containing a graphic and disturbing image. :cwink:
Yes! *throws fist up*
bluedragon77
05-06-2008, 02:45 AM
You would be correct. And, perhaps, if people were concerned about their post counts, they wouldn't quote and comment on a post containing a graphic and disturbing image. :cwink:point taken duly noted.. by the way did u see the two face pic? what did u think of it?
Fred-Green
05-06-2008, 02:49 AM
I just find it funny and ignorant that people would scream that the concept art is unrealistic when anyone who has seen someone's flesh catch fire would agree that they nailed what that looks like.
You ever toasted a marshmallow? Notice how the insides turn off-yellow and the outside turns hard black with many cracks into it as it shrinks? That is because a marshmallow is loaded with sugar (which burns easily) and is carbon based which means when heated it turns more into a hard carbon like substance.
Now, imagine if the marshmallow was a living thing. Same reaction.
When you catch on fire, the fire will feed off of your fat reserves stored in your skin while the skin goes through a chemical reaction turning into a hard carbon form and thus killing the cells.
What you are left with is raw and damaged blood vessels and tissue underneath with a hard dead hard carbon-based that was once was the skin.
The first kid was the unfortunate victim of being set on fire and has yet to be treated or healed. The woman below was a person who's someone threw acid at her face when she was 14 and had a chance to heal, but it shows the extent of deformities when your skin is eroded away even after healing.
Since we are going to see Harvey shortly after he was burned and before he can receive medical treatment, that concept art would be a close match to someone would actually look like if someone's face was burned extensively.
BTW, the reason why you rarely see the black carbonized skin is because they scrape that off with a wire brush when you arrive in the hospital. Like what Richard Prior said in his act, its a process that is painful beyond belief.
point made, lets move on please :oldrazz:
Kaizer
05-06-2008, 02:52 AM
is it me or does the burned half in the trailer look really odd, especially in a creen cap of it, it looks really noisy or something, not smooth and realistic looking. is it just me?
Looks a bit CGI to me...perhaps an unfinished shot?
totaljim
05-06-2008, 02:52 AM
ok..
seen the pic..
won't discuss it..
it's not too hard to find..
but that's a concept right..?
nobody's saying that's the way it will look at the end right..?
inflames
05-06-2008, 02:55 AM
so the general consensus is it won't look much like this or?
ActuallyRobin
05-06-2008, 02:57 AM
ok..
seen the pic..
won't discuss it..
it's not too hard to find..
but that's a concept right..?
nobody's saying that's the way it will look at the end right..?
so the general consensus is it won't look much like this or?
yeh it's prolly concept art, and it won't look just llike this in the film.
Interesting how this pops up a few days after Eckhart says 'it's more grusome than the fan pics'....
TNC9852002
05-06-2008, 02:58 AM
You would be correct. And, perhaps, if people were concerned about their post counts, they wouldn't quote and comment on a post containing a graphic and disturbing image. :cwink:
I miss the good ol' days. :cmad:
-TNC
inflames
05-06-2008, 02:59 AM
yeh it's prolly concept art, and it won't look just llike this in the film.
Interesting how this pops up a few days after Eckhart says 'it's more grusome than the fan pics'....
i was just wondering if it would look anything like that but...bummer...weird that WB is pulling it off so fast if it supposedly just early concept art
Kaizer
05-06-2008, 03:01 AM
Interesting how this pops up a few days after Eckhart says 'it's more grusome than the fan pics'....
which would mean it's not that far off....
my two cents: the bone isn't as visible, some is there, but not that much, the line will be a bit more uneven, at least down the forehead, as seen in the toy pic and the open mouth will be about 10% smaller.
bluedragon77
05-06-2008, 03:03 AM
which would mean it's not that far off....
my two cents: the bone isn't as visible, some is there, but not that much, the line will be a bit more uneven, at least down the forehead, as seen in the toy pic and the open mouth will be about 10% smaller.
all i know is thats insane and im trying to picture it in my head with him screaming or somethign with dramatic lighting and i just cant.. i cant wait to see this movie..
ActuallyRobin
05-06-2008, 03:05 AM
i was just wondering if it would look anything like that but...bummer...weird that WB is pulling it off so fast if it supposedly just early concept art
Nah it will look something like this I suspect, it's an indication of the general direction Nolan is taking with the look.
Well they are pulling it down cos the image is their property :)
inflames
05-06-2008, 03:11 AM
kinda makes me wish we had a pic of him as two face.....gr
Anita18
05-06-2008, 03:13 AM
You would be correct. And, perhaps, if people were concerned about their post counts, they wouldn't quote and comment on a post containing a graphic and disturbing image. :cwink:
:ninja:-like punishment indeed!
DrFrommeyer
05-06-2008, 03:13 AM
I'm indifferent to the scarred look - So long as the character is well written.
Batman jr.
05-06-2008, 03:14 AM
Well, if he'll look like that... it's just disgusting :wow:
I like it :grin:
Batman jr.
05-06-2008, 03:22 AM
I understand it's just concept art...but I was expecting a little...better. Obviously it's gonna be a different effect when it's moving pictures but I'm getting a Mummy vibe when I'm looking at it. It is definately extreme, in your face and all, my gripe is that when you remove SOOO much and strip it down that bare...you almost remove the humanity from it, I'd be happier with it if there was a little more of a recognizability to harv. Of course...concept art...this has probably been adapted 20 times over since this was done. Hey...I've read about 200 posts about permawhite and the crow joker and all this other bull about what I consider the best adaptation of the joker we'll likely see on screen so you'll forgive me over what I consider, as a working graphic designer/art director in an ad agency...forgive me for NOT being blown away.
In my opinion, a scarred Harvey doesn't have too much humanity left. He's no circus artist on XTC like in BF...
Besides, the scarring is so close to TLH, which is a very good thing.
The Battousai
05-06-2008, 03:23 AM
The CGI looks good in motion:
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w160/backtothefront88/TDK%20Files/twofacecar.gif
Also, you can tell that his mouth is indeed exposed on the opposite side due to the unnatural opening between the lips on the far side.
Frank Noir
05-06-2008, 03:59 AM
Holy ****!
I just saw the Two-Face concept. Looks sick as hell. I'm pretty happy about it. :woot:
Just yesterday we were talking about how we didn't want to see what he looks like before the actual movie and now it leaks.
One more thing: can they do this with a PG-13 rating? I can already hear the kids screaming in the cinema. Or the sign in front: kids under the age of 10 have to wear diapers. :grin:
Joker
05-06-2008, 04:07 AM
That "concept art" definietly isnt. First off, it's not really "concept art" at all is it? It's a photoshop of Echart. That's obvious. Second, it doesnt match the action figure shots. Third, something that gruesome would be an automatic R. My guess is some fan read Echarts comments about it being worse than the fan art, took what we know of the look (the suit, the color of the burns from the trailer shot) and made this. I'm gonna throw in my two cents and say...FAKE.
Mr. Superhero
05-06-2008, 04:11 AM
That "concept art" definietly isnt. First off, it's not really "concept art" at all is it? It's a photoshop of Echart. That's obvious. Second, it doesnt match the action figure shots. Third, something that gruesome would be an automatic R. My guess is some fan read Echarts comments about it being worse than the fan art, took what we know of the look (the suit, the color of the burns from the trailer shot) and made this. I'm gonna throw in my two cents and say...FAKE.
So you're saying it's a fan manip? How can that be, when WB have prevented its online publication?
Frank Noir
05-06-2008, 04:15 AM
So you're saying it's a fan manip? How can that be, when WB have prevented its online publication?
I don't think it's a manip either. It's just too well-made.
Keyser Soze
05-06-2008, 04:16 AM
That "concept art" definietly isnt. First off, it's not really "concept art" at all is it? It's a photoshop of Echart. That's obvious. Second, it doesnt match the action figure shots. Third, something that gruesome would be an automatic R. My guess is some fan read Echarts comments about it being worse than the fan art, took what we know of the look (the suit, the color of the burns from the trailer shot) and made this. I'm gonna throw in my two cents and say...FAKE.
1. Why would WB censor a fake?
2. Don't base everything on the figure. The design of the scarring on the figure is markedly different from even what we've seen of Two-Face in the trailer. The concept art matches up with the trailer scar-line better than the figure does.
Joker
05-06-2008, 04:17 AM
Maybe the manip was a little too close to what it will be. Also, since when did studios start using photoshop for concept art???
CaptainClown
05-06-2008, 04:18 AM
Maybe the manip was a little too close to what it will be. Also, since when did studios start using photoshop for concept art???
to get an idea how the cgi might look like on screen...:huh:
Keyser Soze
05-06-2008, 04:20 AM
Maybe the manip was a little too close to what it will be. Also, since when did studios start using photoshop for concept art???
Doesn't look like photoshop to me. It's far more detailed than the photoshop jobs we've seen posted here before. To me, it seems more like early CGI than photoshop.
If it IS photoshop, there would be an Eckhart picture like this out there. And I for one haven't seen any. If you want to prove it's a photoshop, you need to find the original pic.
Keyser Soze
05-06-2008, 04:27 AM
Even if this isn't the final design, I hope that what we get is close to this. Looking at that picture just blew me away. Two-Face's scarring is hideous, sickening. While I think we've come to take Two-Face's disfigurement in the comics for granted, this truly reinstills the sheer horror of what happens to Harvey Dent. It's absolutely understandable that a good person could go totally crazy after seeing that in the mirror.
I think it's an excellent adaptation of Two-Face into the cinematic medium, and if this ISN'T what Nolan is doing...... he better have one hell of an alternative to top it.
CaptainClown
05-06-2008, 04:31 AM
Ya, I actually think that it isn't done and there is still some more meaty parts on there. If I am wrong eh I am wrong. It did look all sorts of intense and something that would be absolutely frightening if one was confronted with that.
Mr. Superhero
05-06-2008, 04:33 AM
Maybe the manip was a little too close to what it will be. Also, since when did studios start using photoshop for concept art???
So, if I guessed how Two-Face would look in TDK, and it was almost identical to the actual design; WB would remove it from the face of the planet? As for the Photoshop query; no, I don't think it's done in Photoshop. What gives you that impression?
sarg2k
05-06-2008, 04:52 AM
Typical, I always miss the leaked images before they get removed :cmad:
Mandalore464
05-06-2008, 05:00 AM
First off, it's not really "concept art" at all is it? It's a photoshop of Echart. That's obvious.
Concept arts come in a variety of forms and shapes, from a pencil drawing to a CGI manip. Its purpose is what it is : show a concept.
Second, it doesnt match the action figure shots.
For months now we've known that the action fig was toned down. Plus all we got from the figure was a blurry pic. Apart from the color of the burnt half we can't really say what matches and what doesn't. Remember the scarecrow figure, it had nothing to do with the movie's scarecrow.
Third, something that gruesome would be an automatic R.
Star Wars Episode 3 was rated PG-13. The state Anakin is in at the end is pretty similar, I'd even say the exact same except for the fact that his facial features are not distorted (no bulging eyeball, no mouth opening, the rest is there), and it's all over his body and not just his face AND he has no legs and only one arm left. I'd say that save for Two-Face's eyeball and mouth, Anakin at the end of Episode 3 is even more gruesome-looking when you think about it.
HUMANIMAL
05-06-2008, 05:03 AM
looks very legit to me ...something tells me ...made with maya but definitively no photoshop and i like it very much .... the theorie with the fire could be not only a theorie anymore...y'all remembered when nicholson set one of the mob bosses in burtons batman on fire?
looks very legit to me ...something tells me ...made with maya but definitively no photoshop and i like it very much .... the theorie with the fire could be not only a theorie anymore...y'all remembered when nicholson set one of the mob bosses in burtons batman on fire?
Yeah, he electrocuted him.
HUMANIMAL
05-06-2008, 05:15 AM
yeah was looking for a picture of that scene but i cant find it:-( new harvey aint more gruesome than that at this time was...just a charred body;-)
Keyser Soze
05-06-2008, 05:19 AM
What's crazy is, for so long I've been uber-hyped about The Joker. Now, after that image, my anticipation for Two-Face is right up there at about the same level. :wow:
HUMANIMAL
05-06-2008, 05:23 AM
same here;-) pictures can change everything:-) lets hype to the hype!!!!! it realy makes us wanting even more we've seen alot of joker now we want two face!!!!
Vengeance of Bane
05-06-2008, 05:23 AM
It think it's legit. We have hundreds of fanmanips of Twoface but ne have been taken down by WB.
sasquatchs
05-06-2008, 05:29 AM
WB can't take down manips they don't own anyway
Vengeance of Bane
05-06-2008, 05:33 AM
Thank God I'm not TwoFace, I would be picking those sores all day.:woot:
Keyser Soze
05-06-2008, 05:35 AM
WB can't take down manips they don't own anyway
True. I don't think there's any question of whether or not this is legit. The question is how much of this look will be retained in the finalised version.
Mr. Superhero
05-06-2008, 05:38 AM
True. I don't think there's any question of whether or not this is legit. The question is how much of this look will be retained in the finalised version.
How anyone can look at this and not want it as the final design for the character is beyond me. I mean, what's there to be improved? It's bloody perfect.
Keyser Soze
05-06-2008, 05:41 AM
How anyone can look at this and not want it as the final design for the character is beyond me. I mean, what's there to be improved? It's bloody perfect.
I agree. Like I said, I love this look. If this is just concept art, for the final version I really think all they need to do is refine the CGI, without needing to alter the actual design.
Eggyman
05-06-2008, 05:41 AM
How anyone can look at this and not want it as the final design for the character is beyond me. I mean, what's there to be improved? It's bloody perfect.
:up:
I love how it's showing that toothy snarl.
Oh, and the mods should get on the case of making a Two-Face smilie :yay:
Keyser Soze
05-06-2008, 05:43 AM
Oh, and the mods should get on the case of making a Two-Face smilie :yay:
Seconded!
CaptainClown
05-06-2008, 05:44 AM
I want an animated two-face smiley. It be a smiley dent then splash
Keyser Soze
05-06-2008, 05:45 AM
I want an animated two-face smiley. It be a smiley dent then splash
Then the Dent side can be all like :csad:
Gianakin_
05-06-2008, 05:46 AM
The pic looks very good. I definately hope they've gone with this for the big screen.
Plus, the level of gruesomeness isn't something we haven't seen before, so I wouldn't worry about the parents' backlash this time around.
CaptainClown
05-06-2008, 05:46 AM
yup. We can get both a sad and happy smiley at the same time.
Street Vendor
05-06-2008, 05:47 AM
Should be incredible!
Eggyman
05-06-2008, 05:49 AM
Read the announcements at the top of the page, man. Asking is a no no.
Edit: :o Sorry it's not an announcement, it's a sticky by Mister J. :)
Gianakin_
05-06-2008, 05:50 AM
Edit your post right now, Street Vendor.
Keyser Soze
05-06-2008, 05:52 AM
Edit your post right now, Street Vendor.
Yeah, c'mon, you have kids to feed!
LiveWire777
05-06-2008, 05:53 AM
I'm hearing a lot of complaints of it being way to gruesome, but come on people what can u expect when half ur face is horribly disfugured . :whatever:
CaptainClown
05-06-2008, 05:55 AM
I'm hearing a lot of complaints of it being way to gruesome, but come on people what can u expect when half ur face is horribly disfugured . :whatever:
ya people will always be complaining.
eXperiment
05-06-2008, 05:55 AM
Can somebody describe it? Is it OK to ask that?
Street Vendor
05-06-2008, 05:55 AM
Yeah, c'mon, you have kids to feed!
What, they don't like falafel? ;)
CaptainClown
05-06-2008, 05:55 AM
A skull with an eye and some flesh wrapping.
Eggyman
05-06-2008, 05:56 AM
It's a guy with half of his face messed up :)
Keyser Soze
05-06-2008, 05:56 AM
I'm hearing a lot of complaints of it being way to gruesome, but come on people what can u expect when half ur face is horribly disfugured . :whatever:
It's the fact that it's so hideously gruesome that makes it so great. Even I, as something of a jaded filmgoer who seen plenty of gory horror, was taken aback by just how vile it looks. It really is the kind of face you could imagine someone looking at, and throwing up, like in "Knightfall".
Jonathan Crane
05-06-2008, 05:56 AM
http://www.batman-on-film.com/batmovienews.html
Our insider "Slappy The White Dog" is back with some excellent and interesting insight into today's leak:
Thought ol' Slappy should sniff his way in with a little insight into what has found its way onto the Net.
It's real, however it's one of the very early concept designs (remember what I reported to you regarding the look of The Joker before that was public knowledge? This image of Two Face is from around the same period of early design tests). Just like the early concept design of The Joker largely informed the final look, it wasn't dead on (i.e. They decided to retain the purple suit rather than the raggedy, pieced together costume, etc), but certain elements carried through to the final screen version (The Cut Smile).
In the case of this particular design, it's closer to what you'll see than that early Joker design was, but it's not a good representation of what it looks like on camera (and, as I alluded to above, it's not *exactly* what the screen look is). It's not really what you'll see in the movie, but the general idea is still very much intact.
I don't mean to be overly cryptic, but I know that a lot of people are trying to retain the surprise of the Two-Face look, and this concept art doesn't properly represent what Aaron looks like onscreen.
Keyser Soze
05-06-2008, 05:58 AM
Can somebody describe it? Is it OK to ask that?
It's basically a filmic version of this:
http://www.vacuumboy9.com/tlh/13p23.jpg
Only, being that's it live action and not a comic, it looks much gorier, with exposed tendons, muscle and bone. And much of the skin is charred grey rather than pink.
Gianakin_
05-06-2008, 06:00 AM
Not the final result, eh? I hope they improved upon it and didn't change it too much. What they've got there is really great.
DrFrommeyer
05-06-2008, 06:00 AM
I'm hearing a lot of complaints of it being way to gruesome, but come on people what can u expect when half ur face is horribly disfugured . :whatever:
Its really not that gruesome.
CaptainClown
05-06-2008, 06:01 AM
Its really not that gruesome.
There isn't much left to get disgusted about (slaps knee)
DrFrommeyer
05-06-2008, 06:01 AM
Only, being that's it live action and not a comic, it looks much gorier, with exposed tendons, muscle and bone. And much of the skin is charred grey rather than pink.
The best detail is the exposed salivary gland.
DrFrommeyer
05-06-2008, 06:02 AM
There isn't much left to get disgusted about (slaps knee)
This disgustion is over.
Keyser Soze
05-06-2008, 06:02 AM
Not the final result, eh? I hope they improved upon it and didn't change it too much. What they've got there is really great.
Yeah, like I said, all it needs is a refining of the CGI, rather than an overhaul of the design itself. It'd be hard to beat that design.
Gianakin_
05-06-2008, 06:03 AM
A bit OT as far as the pic is concerned, but has the expression that Eckhart has in his 2Face bit from the trailer been commented upon yet?
He looks really... bitter, I guess is the word. Fantastic job, and we only see him in 20 frames of footage.
Keyser Soze
05-06-2008, 06:04 AM
The best detail is the exposed salivary gland.
I wonder if we'll see Two-Face merrily drooling while he talks.
DRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINAGE!
Keyser Soze
05-06-2008, 06:05 AM
A bit OT as far as the pic is concerned, but has the expression that Eckhart has in his 2Face bit from the trailer been commented upon yet?
He looks really... bitter, I guess is the word. Fantastic job, and we only see him in 20 frames of footage.
The impression I got from his expression is someone who's just...... really tired. Like he's had enough, and he wants this war over with, by any means necessary, so he can just go crawl into a corner and die somewhere.
Gianakin_
05-06-2008, 06:05 AM
Yeah, like I said, all it needs is a refining of the CGI, rather than an overhaul of the design itself. It'd be hard to beat that design.
Precisely.
CaptainClown
05-06-2008, 06:05 AM
It is a million times better than this http://www.gothampublicworks.com/images/gallery/two-face-seated-1.jpg
Eggyman
05-06-2008, 06:07 AM
The impression I got from his expression is someone who's just...... really tired. Like he's had enough, and he wants this war over with, by any means necessary, so he can just go crawl into a corner and die somewhere.
To me he looks sad and angry at the same time. Emmm, perfect? Yes! :hehe:
Gallagher
05-06-2008, 06:07 AM
It's basically a filmic version of this:
http://www.vacuumboy9.com/tlh/13p23.jpg
Only, being that's it live action and not a comic, it looks much gorier, with exposed tendons, muscle and bone. And much of the skin is charred grey rather than pink.
Looking back at TLH now and it really is pretty much identical. I love it.
We are not worthy of Nolan's talents!
Ok, we suffered Joel, scratch that we ARE worthy!:woot:
DrFrommeyer
05-06-2008, 06:07 AM
I wonder if we'll see Two-Face merrily drooling while he talks.
DRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINAGE!
It would be true-to-anatomy. A lot like a stroke patient who can't control his or her lips.
Gianakin_
05-06-2008, 06:08 AM
The impression I got from his expression is someone who's just...... really tired. Like he's had enough, and he wants this war over with, by any means necessary, so he can just go crawl into a corner and die somewhere.
Yes, that's also a good way to sum it up. It gives me a Godfather vibe.
I was just very impressed because it's not even 1,5 second of acting and he conveys it so well. A very good choice, Eckhart.
Keyser Soze
05-06-2008, 06:08 AM
It is a million times better than this http://www.gothampublicworks.com/images/gallery/two-face-seated-1.jpg
Absolutely agreed. The Freddy Kreuger look is a bit too familiar to us filmgoers now. Hell, even Harry Osborn had some scarring not too different from that. Nolan and co really had to up the ante with Two-Face, and I think they've done just that.
I'm really curious about what regwec thinks. Back when they revealed The Joker had a cut-smile, I remember him jokingly talking about how gruesome they were making the film, and he half-expected to see Two-Face's left side stripped down to a bloody stump. And what we've got isn't all that far off that.
cjblair
05-06-2008, 06:10 AM
I wonder if we'll see Two-Face merrily drooling while he talks.
DRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINAGE!
If he drools no one will take him seriously, he'll need to wear a bib, maybe a Venom themed one.
CaptainClown
05-06-2008, 06:10 AM
Absolutely agreed. The Freddy Kreuger look is a bit too familiar to us filmgoers now. Hell, even Harry Osborn had some scarring not too different from that. Nolan and co really had to up the ante with Two-Face, and I think they've done just that.
I'm really curious about what regwec thinks. Back when they revealed The Joker had a cut-smile, I remember him jokingly talking about how gruesome they were making the film, and he half-expected to see Two-Face's left side stripped down to a bloody stump. And what we've got isn't all that far off that.
Seriously, It was like Nolan and Co. began noticing that the scared face is becoming insanely cliche now. SM3, Heroes that guy in Iron Man. It is like they said, alright lets turn this up a notch.
Gianakin_
05-06-2008, 06:10 AM
I'm really curious about what regwec thinks. Back when they revealed The Joker had a cut-smile, I remember him jokingly talking about how gruesome they were making the film, and he half-expected to see Two-Face's left side stripped down to a bloody stump. And what we've got isn't all that far off that.
I believe he was talking about a pulsating brain.
Frank Noir
05-06-2008, 06:10 AM
It is a million times better than this http://www.gothampublicworks.com/images/gallery/two-face-seated-1.jpg
I agree. ^This looks like Christopher Walken with a Freddy Krueger mask.
Keyser Soze
05-06-2008, 06:12 AM
If he drools no one will take him seriously, he'll need to wear a bib, maybe a Venom themed one.
DRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINAGE CJ YOU BOY!
Keyser Soze
05-06-2008, 06:12 AM
I believe he was talking about a pulsating brain.
I think I can see a little bit of brain in there :oldrazz:
LiveWire777
05-06-2008, 06:13 AM
I hope theres a scene where he's drinking something and it just starts 2 leak from the missing part of his cheek. :wow: Oh man that pic has gotten me even more excited for this movie. (if possible)
LiveWire777
05-06-2008, 06:13 AM
I agree. ^This looks like Christopher Walken with a Freddy Krueger mask.
MORE COWBELL BABY
DrFrommeyer
05-06-2008, 06:14 AM
I think I can see a little bit of brain in there :oldrazz:
If thats true, Harvey Dent doesn't have long to live before an infection kills him.
Keyser Soze
05-06-2008, 06:14 AM
I hope theres a scene where he's drinking something and it just starts 2 leak from the missing part of his cheek. :wow: Oh man that pic has gotten me even more excited for this movie. (if possible)
Or he takes a drink of scotch, then realises too late how much it's gonna sting. :wow:
Keyser Soze
05-06-2008, 06:15 AM
If thats true, Harvey Dent doesn't have long to live before an infection kills him.
Nah, that was a joke. Though there is a bit of bone visible. He better be stocking up on the anti-septic cream.
cjblair
05-06-2008, 06:15 AM
DRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINAGE CJ YOU BOY!
Alright boyo? Venom does drools, both metaphorically and literally
http://vinspins.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/sm_venom.jpg
Juggernaut33
05-06-2008, 06:15 AM
Edit.
Keyser Soze
05-06-2008, 06:16 AM
I'd remove that request before you get a 2 month ban Juggy.
Frank Noir
05-06-2008, 06:17 AM
Can you somebody mp me the picture of Two-Face pleeeaaaassseeee?
Please read the sticky first.
Gianakin_
05-06-2008, 06:17 AM
I think I can see a little bit of brain in there :oldrazz:
I foresee BB3 will be a crossover with Saw.... nah, that wasn't a good joke.:csad:
LiveWire777
05-06-2008, 06:18 AM
Or he takes a drink of scotch, then realises too late how much it's gonna sting. :wow:
Like that scene in Pan's Labrynth when that guy drinks right after his cheek gets sliced.
*shudders*
cjblair
05-06-2008, 06:18 AM
Nah, that was a joke. Though there is a bit of bone visible. He better be stocking up on the anti-septic cream.
The acid would've cortorized the wound wouldn't it?
LiveWire777
05-06-2008, 06:20 AM
The acid would've cortorized the wound wouldn't it?
That don't look like no acid burn to me.
cjblair
05-06-2008, 06:22 AM
That don't look like no acid burn to me.
I know is looks like burn injuries, but everyone is convinced it's acid so get with the program.:whatever:
LiveWire777
05-06-2008, 06:26 AM
If that was acid we might as well call him Halfface cause one side would be totally disenegrated.
CaptainClown
05-06-2008, 06:28 AM
If that was acid we might as well call him Halfface cause one side would be totally disenegrated.
acid doesn't necessarily do that...but you knew that..
LiveWire777
05-06-2008, 06:32 AM
Well I'm failing chemistry so i wouldnt be the most reliable source on that, but it just looks like an obvious burn wound to me.
DrFrommeyer
05-06-2008, 06:33 AM
Honestly guys, it doesn't look like ANY real world wound.
tw9876z
05-06-2008, 06:33 AM
i sadly dont want what we have seen as the final version of two face. I love it, but honestly, its so gruesome it will make people not watch the film. But i dont see wb approving something this grotesque
tw9876z
05-06-2008, 06:35 AM
I shouldve added this, it is something that would push someone over the edge, imagine your face being that disfigured. It compliments the personality of two face. Its just so extreme in its horror look that it will turn people away, which it is meant to do.
LiveWire777
05-06-2008, 06:36 AM
Honestly guys, it doesn't look like ANY real world wound.
I hope the board doesn't get a barrage of hospital burn victim pictures. :wow:
Tex Hex
05-06-2008, 06:36 AM
Crimeny-I tracked it down there (its actually dead easy to finds!)and if thats real...then God bless Chris Nolan...and there is no chance in HELL this is gonna be kid friendly...I actually finish my final year of University today and to see this on the same day....its absolutely amazing!:wow::grin:
cjblair
05-06-2008, 06:37 AM
Well I'm failing chemistry so i wouldnt be the most reliable source on that, but it just looks like an obvious burn wound to me.
You can't win this argument, people are convinced it's acid. So am I to an extent.
Bat-Mite
05-06-2008, 06:38 AM
Thank God I'm not TwoFace, I would be picking those sores all day.:woot:"By the way, that's never going to heal if you don't stop picking."
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9240/tljfacejp4.jpg
cjblair
05-06-2008, 06:39 AM
Crimeny-I tracked it down there (its actually dead easy to finds!)and if thats real...then God bless Chris Nolan...and there is no chance in HELL this is gonna be kid friendly...I actually finish my final year of University today and to see this on the same day....its absolutely amazing!:wow::grin:
Do you want a group hug to celebrate the event? :woot: I know someone who's birthday falls on the 17th, the day it screens here, but they couldn't give a toss.
CaptainClown
05-06-2008, 06:41 AM
You can't win this argument, people are convinced it's acid. So am I to an extent.
Who? A huge portion of posters says its fire.
Tex Hex
05-06-2008, 06:43 AM
Do you want a group hug to celebrate the event? :woot: I know someone who's birthday falls on the 17th, the day it screens here, but they couldn't give a toss.
damn straight! :up:
LiveWire777
05-06-2008, 06:43 AM
I just image googled "acid burns". . . . . . . . . :dry:
LiveWire777
05-06-2008, 06:44 AM
Who? A huge portion of posters says its fire.
Ya i was on the boards last night and fire was the majority.
CaptainClown
05-06-2008, 06:46 AM
The sounds don't look like an acid wound or a burn wound. I spent one day comparing the two to determine it. I have to look at it again later.
LiveWire777
05-06-2008, 06:49 AM
The sounds don't look like an acid wound or a burn wound. I spent one day comparing the two to determine it. I have to look at it again later.
I guess we'll know fo sure come July 18th. Anyone care to make any bets :cwink:
Nivek
05-06-2008, 06:49 AM
Can somebody describe it? Is it OK to ask that?
Half Aaron Eckheart. Half Darkman (the Totally burned side with skull peeking through).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/Nivekian/LiamNeeson_Darkman.jpg
Tex Hex
05-06-2008, 06:50 AM
it definatly looks more like a fire kind of thing....if it is a matter of Dent being held face down on a floor covered with gasoline and it being set alight (which looks like whats in the trailer) then I can imagine this being the result....but I can also imagine that being a really intense and tragic scene...seriously imagine how messed up that scene would be if it was a mobster or Mr. J doinf the pouring and laughing at a good man being held down and screaming his lungs out as he's being held into the fire
CaptainClown
05-06-2008, 06:50 AM
I guess we'll know fo sure come July 18th. Anyone care to make any bets :cwink:
I am going to bet he cuts it shaving.
LiveWire777
05-06-2008, 06:55 AM
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n70/live_wire_777/Zombie.jpg The pic reminds me of one o these bad boys.
cjblair
05-06-2008, 06:56 AM
Who? A huge portion of posters says its fire.
I agree it's possibly fire, the drum of gas was hooked up to some wires. Who knows? Maybe Rachel did it.:oldrazz:
DrFrommeyer
05-06-2008, 06:57 AM
I'm really mad - My brother just e-mailed me saying that Two-Face looks like a Mars Attacks! alien... Now its all I see.
cjblair
05-06-2008, 06:57 AM
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n70/live_wire_777/Zombie.jpg The pic reminds me of one o these bad boys.
pls lets not makes this a thread about posting lame pictures. :csad:
CaptainClown
05-06-2008, 06:58 AM
I'm really mad - My brother just e-mailed me saying that Two-Face looks like a Mars Attacks! alien... Now its all I see.
tim burton has the last laugh
cjblair
05-06-2008, 06:59 AM
I'm really mad - My brother just e-mailed me saying that Two-Face looks like a Mars Attacks! alien... Now its all I see.
Don;t look at JaD's avartar, you won't be able to sleep.:woot:
DaddyGrayson
05-06-2008, 06:59 AM
tim burton has the last laugh
Haha
LiveWire777
05-06-2008, 06:59 AM
pls lets not makes this a thread about posting lame pictures. :csad:
Quoting me and doubling the same lame pic does not help ur cause good sir.
DrFrommeyer
05-06-2008, 07:00 AM
tim burton has the last laugh
:lmao:
cjblair
05-06-2008, 07:01 AM
Quoting me and doubling the same lame pic does not help ur cause good sir.
It was a general remark, as someone said let's not make this a thread about burn victims and dodgy pics off the net. But if I have personally offended you, I apologize.
LiveWire777
05-06-2008, 07:03 AM
It was a general remark, as someone said let's not make this a thread about burn victims and dodgy pics off the net. But if I have personally offended you, I apologize.
Its all good i said the same thing a few posts ago.
Ring Deacon
05-06-2008, 07:32 AM
Looks to me like this Two Face is going to give kids nightmares. I hope that this is how he ends up looking.
shogunrua
05-06-2008, 07:34 AM
cool picture, and what an excellent ground for infections :D (sorry I have my exams next week and I've been studying ****ing bacterias and virus for the last 2 weeks almost 14 hours a day...) but I really like the look (a little gory for a PG-13 movie but what the hell, it's great anyway)
Slipping_Halo
05-06-2008, 07:42 AM
I just hope it's not the Joker who does it to him. That would be totally friggin' awful.
TheDarkAce
05-06-2008, 07:47 AM
I just saw the picture. I have a dark mind and I love the Joker being all twisted and all. But I threw up in my mouth a bit when I saw that Two-Face pic. I hope that is the real thing. I can't wait to see how it moves in the movie and how Eckhart acts. From the description that Eckhart gave in the LA Times, I'd say it's real.
Metallo22
05-06-2008, 07:48 AM
Anybody think Dent will be playing the role of Gordon here, where the Joker tries to make a clean, honest man go insane? It looks that way from toying with Rachel, and possibly killing her, to setting the guy on fire.
inflames
05-06-2008, 07:50 AM
this is a bit OT but if you pause the trailer when joker throws rachel you can see a window frame to the jokers left (the viewers right) i'll bet he throws out one of those windows at the party
Dark Donnie
05-06-2008, 07:53 AM
Little late, but is that pic confirmed as real?
inflames
05-06-2008, 07:54 AM
Little late, but is that pic confirmed as real?it is official concept art thats why it's been getting pulled off the net
Dark Donnie
05-06-2008, 07:55 AM
it is official concept art thats why it's been getting pulled off the net
Thanks!
inflames
05-06-2008, 07:57 AM
Thanks!yup, no problem
TNC9852002
05-06-2008, 08:00 AM
For "concept art" it looks very detailed.
-TNC
Crook
05-06-2008, 08:00 AM
Doesn't look like photoshop to me. It's far more detailed than the photoshop jobs we've seen posted here before. To me, it seems more like early CGI than photoshop.
If it IS photoshop, there would be an Eckhart picture like this out there. And I for one haven't seen any. If you want to prove it's a photoshop, you need to find the original pic.
Professionals use PS (or similar programs) as well. You'd be surprised at what experts in the field can do with an image.
I want an animated two-face smiley. It be a smiley dent then splash
Someone made this a while back: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Happy/022.png
I always lol @ his happiness.
I'm really curious about what regwec thinks. Back when they revealed The Joker had a cut-smile, I remember him jokingly talking about how gruesome they were making the film, and he half-expected to see Two-Face's left side stripped down to a bloody stump. And what we've got isn't all that far off that.
Haha, I remember that post! I think they've done a good job, but really....you'd have to TRY and f**k up the comic book design in order to fail. My only problem with it is it looks more like fire burns than an acid scarring. But eh, I guess I should have expected a change once again.
escobar2248
05-06-2008, 08:02 AM
Maybe the manip was a little too close to what it will be. Also, since when did studios start using photoshop for concept art???
Why not?? Concept art can be created on a variety of mediums.
inflames
05-06-2008, 08:02 AM
For "concept art" it looks very detailed.
-TNCyea, it looks real but then again it looks kinda like a sculpt or made of wax...i dunno...maybe it is real and the burn looking so crazy it almost looks fake, if you get my meaning...like 'wow i cant believe that guy looks that horrible'
SimpleHero82
05-06-2008, 08:06 AM
can someone please pm me the pic?
escobar2248
05-06-2008, 08:09 AM
Professionals use PS (or similar programs) as well. You'd be surprised at what experts in the field can do with an image.
Yes you would.
People on here have absolutely no idea how powerful Photoshop or the 3d modeling programs are that Hollywood uses.
For "concept art" it looks very detailed.
-TNC
I have seen MANY different levels of concept art, from rough sketches to full blown sculptures. Check out the art of Guillermo Del Toro's films sometime. He takes concept art it to a whole new level.
Also, it may be really close to the finished product. We'll all have to wait til July 18th to see.
ultimatefan
05-06-2008, 08:12 AM
Well, the fact itīs been pulled off is usually a strong indication that itīs real deal. And itīs gross and awful and, therefore, awesome. No pinky chewing gum, THIS is a guy who had half his face melted by acid...
inflames
05-06-2008, 08:12 AM
i think it will end up looking almost exactly like that, why? because if it had bared little to no resemblance to the final version WB might have kept quiet therefore making people assume it's just another mockup
cjblair
05-06-2008, 08:13 AM
can someone please pm me the pic?
No, but the mods can PM you your ban notice for making such requests. :mad:
SuperBatman
05-06-2008, 08:13 AM
Does it bother anyone that it looks like Fire is the thing that scars Harvey instead of Acid? At first I thought Acid should do the job but I gotta admit that is one sick ass picture if Fire did the job.
cjblair
05-06-2008, 08:14 AM
Well, the fact itīs been pulled off is usually a strong indication that itīs real deal. And itīs gross and awful and, therefore, awesome. No pinky chewing gum, THIS is a guy who had half his face melted by acid...
I think its concept art, something like that talking would be a R grade.
Crook
05-06-2008, 08:14 AM
Does it bother anyone that it looks like Fire is the thing that scars Harvey instead of Acid? At first I thought Acid should do the job but I gotta admit that is one sick ass picture if Fire did the job.
A little bit. I felt they could've achieved the same look with acid burns.
cjblair
05-06-2008, 08:15 AM
Does it bother anyone that it looks like Fire is the thing that scars Harvey instead of Acid? At first I thought Acid should do the job but I gotta admit that is one sick ass picture if Fire did the job.
This is going to be as divisive as the whole bleaching issue, to burn or not to burn? that's the question.
DeaDheaD
05-06-2008, 08:15 AM
I still cant believe that came from a Nolan film, better than what I thought he would do.
ultimatefan
05-06-2008, 08:15 AM
I think its concept art, something like that talking would be a R grade.
I donīt think itīs more horrifying than, say, the Orcs in LOTR or Lord Voldemort or even Joker himself.
turtlefocker
05-06-2008, 08:16 AM
I love this look to the point that I'm going to be incredibly disappointed when I see the finished product and it looks nothing like this...
cjblair
05-06-2008, 08:16 AM
I donīt think itīs more horrifying than, say, the Orcs in LOTR or Lord Voldemort or even Joker himself.
Not even God understands how the MPAA works.
inflames
05-06-2008, 08:17 AM
This is going to be as divisive as the whole bleaching issue, to burn or not to burn? that's the question.wow, your probably right...but like that issue im indifferent but also like that issue the latter sounds cooler and more visceral.
Juggernaut33
05-06-2008, 08:17 AM
Wow, that pic of Two Face is so disgusting. I'm just so happy with it. The only issue that I have with it is the eye. Apparently half of Dent's face was severly burned and therefor, his left eye should be blind.
cjblair
05-06-2008, 08:17 AM
I love this look to the point that I'm going to be incredibly disappointed when I see the finished product and it looks nothing like this...
Yeah I think its concept art, or fake.
inflames
05-06-2008, 08:18 AM
Yeah I think its concept art, or fake.it isnt fake, its unofficially official AKA leaked
TNC9852002
05-06-2008, 08:20 AM
I'm surprised at the number of people that can recognize the difference between being burned by acid and being burned by fire. :p I've seen what both look like and it looks more like an acid burn to me, but still a combination of both.
-TNC
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
05-06-2008, 08:23 AM
I donīt think itīs more horrifying than, say, the Orcs in LOTR or Lord Voldemort or even Joker himself.
Ya, joker has a mutilated mouth, heads getting beheaded in lord of the rings along with Sean Bean shot to crap with arrows, those un-dead pirate dudes in POTC and the specail effects (along Brendan Fraser trying to act) in the mummy, they got away with that.
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
05-06-2008, 08:24 AM
Double post.
ultimatefan
05-06-2008, 08:24 AM
I'm surprised at the number of people that can recognize the difference between being burned by acid and being burned by fire. :p I've seen what both look like and it looks more like an acid burn to me, but still a combination of both.
-TNC
Yeah, flesh burned by fire tends to look darker, kinda like coal.
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
05-06-2008, 08:26 AM
Wow, that pic of Two Face is so disgusting. I'm just so happy with it. The only issue that I have with it is the eye. Apparently half of Dent's face was severly burned and therefor, his left eye should be blind.
There is bone that protects the eye from all sides, look at the burnt side.
SuperBatman
05-06-2008, 08:26 AM
Something just hit me what if it's both? I mean what if Maroni hits Harvey with the Acid and then maybe the Joker and his men come in to finish the job and light Harvey on Fire.
cjblair
05-06-2008, 08:27 AM
It is official:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=16292
NOTE: This image has been removed at the request of Warner Bros. Films.
SimpleHero82
05-06-2008, 08:28 AM
thanks guys for the links. dunno why i was too lazy to look myself
turtlefocker
05-06-2008, 08:28 AM
Doesn't mean this is the "final" look
Gianakin_
05-06-2008, 08:28 AM
Double post.
I love Jaheira! As a character in a fantastic game, that is.
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
05-06-2008, 08:28 AM
Ya, link no worky.
Hotwire
05-06-2008, 08:29 AM
Wow, that pic of Two Face is so disgusting. I'm just so happy with it. The only issue that I have with it is the eye. Apparently half of Dent's face was severly burned and therefor, his left eye should be blind.
I agree. Go watch the remake of The Hills Have Eyes. There is a scene where someone is set on fire. Watch what happens to his eyes.
escobar2248
05-06-2008, 08:29 AM
Yeah I think its concept art, or fake.
I don't think that it's fake because the photo of Harvey/Eckhart is something that we haven't seen yet. It also has that "add noise" filter from Photoshop applied to it, the same as the leaked Joker photos.
However, concept art it may be.
cjblair
05-06-2008, 08:30 AM
Doesn't mean this is the "final" look
No it doesn't but it does mean that the suits treat it seriously, so it is something near to the real thing. Eckhart did warn us that the manips were off the mark. It may be toned down a bit but that's pretty much it.
I'm dissappointed with the look of Two-Face. Although I knew that we would get something extremely gross but I always hoped for something more subtle. I know I'm pretty much alone with my opinion but I kinda hate the fact that Two-Face looks like a science fiction monster. The ending result reminds me too much of The Mummy effects/make-ups. Me not likey. But hey, this is just my problem and as usual, Nolan will make it work on screen.
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
05-06-2008, 08:36 AM
I agree. Go watch the remake of The Hills Have Eyes. There is a scene where someone is set on fire. Watch what happens to his eyes.
That's a fictional movie and there are lots of factors that can be taken into consideration. One being the differences of burnt by a fire and set on fire.
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