Harvey Dent/Two Face Thread

[TheBatman072]

I don't know. Eckhart wasn't someone on my radar, and even now, I don't know if he can pull off the all-American superhero that Cap is.

People can flame me all they want, but the greatly talented Brad Pitt would have been my ideal choice. Reminds me so much of how RDJ fit Iron Man, despite their global fame and public scrutiny.


Even IF he signed up for The First Avenger: Captain America, which he'd NEVER do, do you really think he'd go for The Avengers?


That would completely **** up Marvel's plans and they'd have to cast someone else as Cap.

Maybe when he was more or less unknown, maybe then. But now? Never.


My totally out there but kinda possible choice for Cap is Matt Damon. Probably would never happen, but I'd like to see it.

[Crook]

Pitt's my ideal choice, never said it was actually possible. Seems nowadays he's very picky with the projects he chooses, and seems to be past that big-budget movie days.

As for Damon, he turned down a comic book role that wasn't exactly typical and big-time. Even more unlikely he'd go for the front and center icon in an ongoing franchise.

[deathfromabove]

Even IF he signed up for The First Avenger: Captain America, which he'd NEVER do, do you really think he'd go for The Avengers?


That would completely **** up Marvel's plans and they'd have to cast someone else as Cap.

Maybe when he was more or less unknown, maybe then. But now? Never.


My totally out there but kinda possible choice for Cap is Matt Damon. Probably would never happen, but I'd like to see it.

i think matt damon would be a great choice. i dont see it happening though. same with pitt.

[Spoonman]

As for Damon, he turned down a comic book role that wasn't exactly typical and big-time. Even more unlikely he'd go for the front and center icon in an ongoing franchise.

What role are you talking about? is it the rumour that Damon turned down Two-Face?...I thought that was unconfirmed.

[TNC9852002]

Casting the same guy who's playing a major role in the Batman franchise, for a major icon in the Marvel universe....is stupid.

Aaron isn't the only blonde-haired, chiseled actor out in Hollywood. Leave him in one comic book franchise and save the confusion.
Whoa...We're not talking seriously or anything here. We're just pointing out that Eckhart has probably the most chiseled-looking jaw and a cleft chin straight out of a comic book, very Captain America-ish.

He's not who I'd pick for the Cap at all, though...for a variety of reasons, including his current movie role as a prominent DC Comics character.

-TNC

[Nepenthes]

As for Damon, he turned down a comic book role that wasn't exactly typical and big-time. Even more unlikely he'd go for the front and center icon in an ongoing franchise.

Jason Bourne? Unless you're talking about strictly comic book. Though for me Jason Bourne is the main reason I wouldnt want to see him as Cap and I wouldn't be surprised if many execs or Damon himself felt the same either.

He's also, um, a little expensive for a new franchise plus a film already starring Ed Norton, Sam Jackson and Robert Downey (damn that's a hell of cast).

Pitt, depsite intial apprehension I can see him doing an interesting take on Cap. He'd give him more meat and bones than most other actors would, even if he's a little pretty boy it would be worth it in the end result. And you know he would sell the movie

[Rikxiepoo]

And English Captain America would be like having an American James Bond. It just isn't going to happen.

Need I remind you that our current Batman is Welsh? :whatever:

[regwec]

Batman is Batman: his American-ness is hardly the cornerstone of his identity. He is really an aristocratic knight who lives in a castle and sallies forth to fight crime in his feudal fifedom with the aid of a squire.

That's not to say that I would object to a non-American playing Cap. I just think that his American-ness is clearly more important, and that one of the reasons for Batman's global following is that he lacks a strong national identity.

[Manosman]

Batman is Batman: his American-ness is hardly the cornerstone of his identity. He is really an aristocratic knight who lives in a castle and sallies forth to fight crime in his feudal fifedom with the aid of a squire.

That's not to say that I would object to a non-American playing Cap. I just think that his American-ness is clearly more important, and that one of the reasons for Batman's global following is that he lacks a strong national identity.


I agree, batman is in gotham city a fictional city, that happens to be in the USA. Bond is an MI6 agent for britain, Cap is Captain America. Cap and Bond characters are defined by their nationality so its more important that a british and american persons play them, batmans nationality doesnt matter as much

[Banquet]

as long as Captain America isn't Jackie Chan or sporting a thick russian accent or something, I don't think it'll matter much if he played by an American actor or not...

[regwec]

I guess that rules out Dolph Lundgren. ;)

[Banquet]

I guess that rules out Dolph Lundgren. ;)

Nah, we can just overdub him with the voice of Gregory Peck.

[cjblair]

Batman is Batman: his American-ness is hardly the cornerstone of his identity. He is really an aristocratic knight who lives in a castle and sallies forth to fight crime in his feudal fifedom with the aid of a squire.

That's not to say that I would object to a non-American playing Cap. I just think that his American-ness is clearly more important, and that one of the reasons for Batman's global following is that he lacks a strong national identity.

Some Brits can do "American" better than most American actors. Look at the cast and crew of BB and TDK, the best Batman to date is a Brit. Look at House and at Hugh Laurie, Brian Singer said he was the perfect American actor. Only to realise he's a Pom.

[Nepenthes]

Whoever plays Captain America needs to have a super cheesy American head. You know, those faces....

[blueblazer2]

Some Brits can do "American" better than most American actors. Look at the cast and crew of BB and TDK, the best Batman to date is a Brit. Look at House and at Hugh Laurie, Brian Singer said he was the perfect American actor. Only to realise he's a Pom.


Some Brits have terrible American accents . Look at Clive Owen in the Inside Man and Sin City

[Keyser Soze]

The British infiltrating American roles is like the real-life Secret Invasion.

[hannya]

The British infiltrating American roles is like the real-life Secret Invasion.

Anyone see HBO's "Recount"? Classic scene of Tom Wilkinson and John Hurt throwing each other's already terrible U.S accents off kilter, in front of a boardroom full of American actors. Painful.
I'm British by the way. The truth hurts.

[passiondesigns]

Custom Dark Knight Harvey Deny Chase figure w/podium

Recipe: 1 Dark Knight Joker Thug figure, Re-sculpted Ryu head

“I believe in Harvey Dent” Inspired by the recent Batman Trailer. Everyone makes Two Face figures all day, but I thought Harvey Dent never got any love. I used a Ryu head, dremeled off the head ban & hair, resculpted with apoxy sculpt. Added a tie, used some hands off of some clearance figure I found. But Harvey would not be complete without a “Vote for Gotham new DA” stand. Stand is made out of balsa wood, with Dent poster and Gotham’s city symbol.. Also Harvey comes with an evidence box………. Evidence from criminals & vigilantes hmmmmmm ……?

More pics here ……http://www.passiondesignsinc.com/harveydent.html

it will be going up on ebay tonight

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http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e182/passiondesigns/hardent/hdt4.jpg

[regwec]

That's pretty awesome! Needs a little more fringe, maybe?

[TNC9852002]

I think Cap should be played by a well-known, like a B-list actor, no older than mid 30's. Someone who could pass as being 25 and still have the maturity of a 30 or even a 40 something. That's the difficult thing about Cap because historically, he first becomes Captain America while he's still in his 20's, yet he's usually drawn like a very matured, older man around 40 or so. I think the best way to approach this is to get a guy in his early 30's and work the rest out in the makeup, SFX department if necessary.

I think he could do it:
http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/paul-walker-2003-mtv-movie-awards-CHKOq4.jpg

He's just the first guy off the top of my head. He probably wouldn't be the best for it, but I wouldn't hate it if he was given the part.

-TNC

[LiveWire777]

as long as Captain America isn't Jackie Chan or sporting a thick russian accent or something, I don't think it'll matter much if he played by an American actor or not...
hmm an asian Captain America . . . . i smell sitcom gold :woot:

[laudanum09]

hmmm..knights, in america? i dont think so, i think its european. knights were in england.

[Gianakin_]

Ok, I saw the vid of Harvey's speech from the Six-Flags TDK Ride thread and I have to say, I was happy with Eckhart as Harvey, because of his resume so far. Seeing him talking in character for an extended period of time makes me love him as Dent!

I was under the impression he'd be playing a somehow light-hearted Dent, however he gave a more serious and stern performance. His voice is fantastic. Now I'm REALLY starting to feel the Dent of TDK and the hype surrounding him.

[TNC9852002]

Some Brits have terrible American accents . Look at Clive Owen in the Inside Man and Sin City
Yeah...Clive's "Americanized" accent was very flaky at times. He's getting a little better.

-TNC

[itsthebatman]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/extendedplay/2008/06/batman-the-dark.html
You guys split up characters a bit. James, can you talk about what you created for Harvey Dent/Two Face?
Howard: Basically, Harvey Dent is Gotham's great hope. He's going to turn things around. He starts out with the best of intentions. He's a brave, courageous, high-minded man. Over the course of this story, he becomes seduced and corrupted -- really by the Joker. The Joker kind of wins. It's just the arc of his character, which ultimately ends up in a very tragic self-destructive place. That was the musical line.

Zimmer: What makes it interesting is that there are such extremes. The music James wrote for Harvey Dent is really beautiful. On the hand, you have the Joker theme, and on the other hand you have that contrast of something really elegant and beautiful.
What makes this movie -– and this score -– interesting is the extremes. The black is a lot blacker because of the light.

So, Joker has a direct influence in the making of Two-Face?

[HUMANIMAL]

i certanly think that he changes his view on how to fight crime without beeing mean...also if joker kills rachel wich aint confirmed..but if...he certainly goes mad....but i doubt joker itself will throw the acid or burn his face;-)...but he has control over the mob and they maybe act under his influence...

[Zohan Dvir]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/extendedplay/2008/06/batman-the-dark.html
You guys split up characters a bit. James, can you talk about what you created for Harvey Dent/Two Face?
Howard: Basically, Harvey Dent is Gotham's great hope. He's going to turn things around. He starts out with the best of intentions. He's a brave, courageous, high-minded man. Over the course of this story, he becomes seduced and corrupted -- really by the Joker. The Joker kind of wins. It's just the arc of his character, which ultimately ends up in a very tragic self-destructive place. That was the musical line.

Zimmer: What makes it interesting is that there are such extremes. The music James wrote for Harvey Dent is really beautiful. On the hand, you have the Joker theme, and on the other hand you have that contrast of something really elegant and beautiful.
What makes this movie -– and this score -– interesting is the extremes. The black is a lot blacker because of the light.

So, Joker has a direct influence in the making of Two-Face?

I know that some people like individual development of villains. But I really like how they are linked together. One villain's actions ripple and contribute to the creation and development of another villain. Actions, consequences, and unintended consequences.

[TheComicbookKid]

As long as Joker isn't the one that throws the acid, I'll be find.

Batman 's crusade created the Joker.
Joker's crusade creates the atmosphere for Two-Face.

[HolyPurpleSocks]

As long as Joker isn't the one that throws the acid, I'll be find.

Batman 's crusade created the Joker.
Joker's crusade creates the atmosphere for Two-Face.
And now imagine, in effect, what Two Face can create. Another hero figure, perhaps? With his penchant for duality, and his obsession with dual identities? Could his dark side cross the line to create something positive? I can't wait to see where the third movie takes this.

[passiondesigns]

Custom Dark Knight Harvey Deny Chase figure w/podium

Recipe: 1 Dark Knight Joker Thug figure, Re-sculpted Ryu head

“I believe in Harvey Dent” Inspired by the recent Batman Trailer. Everyone makes Two Face figures all day, but I thought Harvey Dent never got any love. I used a Ryu head, dremeled off the head ban & hair, resculpted with apoxy sculpt. Added a tie, used some hands off of some clearance figure I found. But Harvey would not be complete without a “Vote for Gotham new DA” stand. Stand is made out of balsa wood, with Dent poster and Gotham’s city symbol.. Also Harvey comes with an evidence box………. Evidence from criminals & vigilantes hmmmmmm ……?

More pics here ……http://www.passiondesignsinc.com/harveydent.html

it will be going up on ebay tonight

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e182/passiondesigns/hardent/hdmain.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e182/passiondesigns/hardent/hdt4.jpg

Bonus head is coming with my auction hehehe
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e182/passiondesigns/hardent/bonus.jpg

[SalaciousVC]

http://images.wizarduniverse.com/WizardUniverse/magazinepics/dkgallery/4.jpg


Now that is one badass tie:o

[The Caped Knight]

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/3337/44451462dh1.jpg
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/2536/69447229xn0.jpg

[Cagefighterkip]

sweet new pix

[TNC9852002]

I keep finding it weird how these pics pop up.

How do you guys know when new photos appear? Is there a website?

-TNC

[xero1186]

I keep finding it weird how these pics pop up.

How do you guys know when new photos appear? Is there a website?

-TNC


Google alerts my friend :word:

and not to mention these new pics were in the latest wizard magazine.

[Keyser Soze]

I love how all Dent's ties are two-toned. Nice, subtle foreshadowing there...

[regwec]

Y'think? Most of my ties are two toned...I just think they look nicer.

[itsthebatman]

Y'think? Most of my ties are two toned...I just think they look nicer.
OT, but whenever I watch Family Guy, I imagine you were like Stewie Griffin as a baby.

[Batman]

This may be a bit late, but where would my best bet of getting Harvey Dent campaign swag be? eBay?

[ActuallyRobin]

This may be a bit late, but where would my best bet of getting Harvey Dent campaign swag be? eBay?

Prolly, or theres a swag thread on the viral forum, I'm sure someone would sell you stuff reasonably there.

[JasonWood]

http://stars.ign.com/articles/879/879644p1.html

Very Nice read on Two-face

[I7eIVIoNBoY]

i just came to a sudden realization! i dont read much comic books but doesnt harvey dent have a wife???? can somebody explain to me why he's dating rachel, im sure it has to do with emotional impact but wouldnt that be like making bruces parents killer the penguin?? you know like a spiderman thing where every villain has to be related to the hero in some way, its kinda dumb if you ask me...

[The Caped Knight]

Man I'm getting a big bad Hav kind of vibe from this shot of Aaron with the coin
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t302/DCMarvelRPG/Supporting%20Characters/Harvey%20Dent/Batman18.jpg

[jsf]

i love that shot

[DesertBat86]

so he just picks it up from the street???

[ironwez20]

we have to see the movie to find out

[CrypticOne]

Man I'm getting a big bad Hav kind of vibe from this shot of Aaron with the coin
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t302/DCMarvelRPG/Supporting%20Characters/Harvey%20Dent/Batman18.jpg

This is an awesome shot!

[The Man of Steel]

I Havent been on anything Batman latly, so I'm wondering if they've released a Two-Face pick yet?

[Keyser Soze]

Man I'm getting a big bad Hav kind of vibe from this shot of Aaron with the coin
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t302/DCMarvelRPG/Supporting%20Characters/Harvey%20Dent/Batman18.jpg

Awesome! Where does this shot come from?

[Keyser Soze]

I Havent been on anything Batman latly, so I'm wondering if they've released a Two-Face pick yet?

A picture was leaked. But it was promptly removed, and posting it results in a ban. But there's a stickied thread at the top of the page which might help you out.

EDIT: Hmmmm.......that thread seems to have disappeared. Never mind...

[Bunker]

Awesome! Where does this shot come from?

It came from the new IMAX featurette that released last night

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpBzxsqd4cU

[Keyser Soze]

It came from the new IMAX featurette that released last night

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpBzxsqd4cU

AWESOME!

[turtlefocker]

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t302/DCMarvelRPG/Supporting%20Characters/Harvey%20Dent/Batman18.jpg

took me two times to notice this, such a short clip...

[turtlefocker]

the coin..

[Aidan2209]

His eyes are clearly not focused on the coin...

The ground, from which he picked up said coin?

[Aidan2209]

I most certainly hope not.

Yeah, not too sure when and where he gets it. We'll just have to wait and see.

[RKO]

Yeah he just picks it up from the ground and says "Ooooh shiny coin" :gray:

The complexity of the story is just magnificent.

[Gallagher]

His dad should give it him like in Long Halloween :cmad:

[Jokers_Wild]

His dad should give it him like in Long Halloween :cmad:

It would be cool if him and Rachel can't decide where to go for dinner, and Harvey whips out his big, half-dollar and flips it. Rachel is like, "Is that a silver piece? Where'd that come from?", and Harvey responds, "Oh, I always have it on me for luck. My dad gave it to me when I kid."

[Orb]

A Bigger picture:

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z31/Spider-Z/pic.png

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

A Bigger picture:

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z31/Spider-Z/pic.png

I love this shot, look at how confused he is!

[undyingsoul]

Maybe he has dual personalities before the transformation and thats his dark side showing through.

[Gallagher]

It would be cool if him and Rachel can't decide where to go for dinner, and Harvey whips out his big, half-dollar and flips it. Rachel is like, "Is that a silver piece? Where'd that come from?", and Harvey responds, "Oh, I always have it on me for luck. My dad gave it to me when I kid."

I love this idea :up:

Subtle nod to the comics and a believable 'reveal' of the coin.

[ronny]

I love this shot, look at how confused he is!

He looks angry to me. Absolutely seething in fact.

[TNC9852002]

A picture was leaked. But it was promptly removed, and posting it results in a ban. But there's a stickied thread at the top of the page which might help you out.

EDIT: Hmmmm.......that thread seems to have disappeared. Never mind...
It was still uncertain if that photo was just a piece of concept art of it it was something from the actual film.

and that coin photo, he's definitely not looking straight at the coin, which suggests that there's something going on there where the coin plays a factor.

-TNC

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

He looks angry to me. Absolutely seething in fact.

I mean confused in being he has two sides equally telling him to act in a specific manner and he cant decide which, thats why hes turning to the coin for the decision.

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

It was still uncertain if that photo was just a piece of concept art of it it was something from the actual film.

and that coin photo, he's definitely not looking straight at the coin, which suggests that there's something going on there where the coin plays a factor.

-TNC

Definitly concept art, you can tell quality wise its not directly from the film.

[BatSpider]

DOES ANYONE HAVE THE SHOT OF THE COIN SPINNING SCENE RIGHT BEFORE THE SHOT OF HIM HOLDING IT PLEASE???

thanks

[Gallagher]

Aye, I'd love that coin spin as an avvy.

[HolyPurpleSocks]

A Bigger picture:

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z31/Spider-Z/pic.png
He looks so wonderfully disturbed and psychologically damaged in this picture...Like he's literally caught at an internal crossroads. I LOVE the emotion put into this by Mr. Eckhart.:wow:

[Juggernaut33]

It would be cool if him and Rachel can't decide where to go for dinner, and Harvey whips out his big, half-dollar and flips it. Rachel is like, "Is that a silver piece? Where'd that come from?", and Harvey responds, "Oh, I always have it on me for luck. My dad gave it to me when I kid."

I want something more meaninful than that! Like Harvey Dent showing up at a crime scene that is connected to a mob boss (Maroni? The Joker?). The only evidence is a coin that belongs to the boss but he will never be able to prove it. That would emphezise the idea that justice is about luck (from Two Face POW).

[Jokers_Wild]

I want something more meaninful than that! Like Harvey Dent showing up at a crime scene that is connected to a mob boss (Maroni? The Joker?). The only evidence is a coin that belongs to the boss but he will never be able to prove it. That would emphezise the idea that justice is about luck (from Two Face POW).

^Yes- that's quite good. :yay:

[Omega Wizard]

Anyone think Two-Face might be too scary? It could drive away the kids, like with Batman returns, we all know what happened after that....

[Symbiotic]

Anyone think Two-Face might be too scary? It could drive away the kids, like with Batman returns, we all know what happened after that....WB won't tone down this series. They've learned.

[Symbiotic]

They might make Nolan tone down Two-Face, from that concept art, he looks pretty, extreme.Possibly. What I'm saying is though, is that the movies will never again be as light as BF and B&R.

[RKO]

DOES ANYONE HAVE THE SHOT OF THE COIN SPINNING SCENE RIGHT BEFORE THE SHOT OF HIM HOLDING IT PLEASE???

thanks


http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6664/harvey2coinev4.jpg

[Rocker22]

That must be during that bar scene shown before.

[BatSpider]

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6664/harvey2coinev4.jpg
Thanks mr Randy Orton :oldrazz:

[RKO]

Thanks mr Randy Orton :oldrazz:


You're welcome. You can tell from that shot, Two-Face likes his Cuervo every now and then.

[bell110]

They might make Nolan tone down Two-Face, from that concept art, he looks pretty, extreme.

He looks pretty real.

[MiniBond]

Aaron Eckhart will ROCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/8676/picbk7.png





I never really doubted it, I was more than happy when he was cast (much more than with Ledger at first time)......I haven't seen the movie yet but..........HE'S GONNA BE A HELL OF A DENT, A HELL OF A TWO FACE !!!!! :p:p:p:p


I can sense a progressive fall of the character driven slowmly but firlmy to madness with the scarring scene as the cherry on top !!!!!

[MAKIEVELLI]

It would be cool if him and Rachel can't decide where to go for dinner, and Harvey whips out his big, half-dollar and flips it. Rachel is like, "Is that a silver piece? Where'd that come from?", and Harvey responds, "Oh, I always have it on me for luck. My dad gave it to me when I kid."

Really, really like that idea. Good stuff

[Orb]

Better? I removed everything besides the pic and the comcast thing..

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z31/Spider-Z/pic-1.png

[Symbiotic]

They may not be as light, but its certainly possible that they tone it done.Well, I'm sure that if they do decide to tone down, they'd take it only so far. They know the backlash they'd receive if they went too far.

[MAKIEVELLI]

Well, I'm sure that if they do decide to tone down, they'd take it only so far. They know the backlash they'd receive if they went too far.

How many people have actually seen the pic itself? 1, maybe 2 million people. The majority of people will never know, nevertheless care, about the original design for the scars. The backlash will not be that bad.

[regwec]

OT, but whenever I watch Family Guy, I imagine you were like Stewie Griffin as a baby.
Well. Stewie Griffin is like the Tim Burton version of the child I was. :)

[Watson]

Better? I removed everything besides the pic and the comcast thing..

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z31/Spider-Z/pic-1.png

Big Bad Harv :D?

This seems to suggest that we'll get some background pysch stuff concerning his Two-Face origins, which I think is great.

[BatSpider]

Big Bad Harv :D?

This seems to suggest that we'll get some background pysch stuff concerning his Two-Face origins, which I think is great.
uprising FTW

[thejon93]

Anyone think Two-Face might be too scary? It could drive away the kids, like with Batman returns, we all know what happened after that....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiBhLayXlwA

Translation: 'The Dark Knight' is not the type of film that screams: "Kid's Friendly".

[Clark Kent]

the movies will never again be as light as BF and B&R.

You wish.

He looks pretty real.

I'd love to see a large version of your avatar.

How many people have actually seen the pic itself? 1, maybe 2 million people. The majority of people will never know, nevertheless care, about the original design for the scars. The backlash will not be that bad.

He was talking about the movies in general. Anyway, we don't know yet how much Two-Face has been toned down from the original concept, maybe not as much as you'd think.

[jtfaria]

The complexity of the story is just magnificent.

Yes, it appears to be quite finely wrought. I head the Iron Man director, Jon Favreau, talk about how unusual it was to get the script 'just right' before shooting, as he believes happened here. He said they usually 'get it close and wing it' or something like that. And if you think about it, most films of this magnitude are pretty muddy in terms of motivations and dialogue. Especially a 'superhero' film. Who thinks writing is a craft in a superhero film? It's a payday, a collaboration, maybe even a chore. Certainly not something for the ol' writing resume. And yet here we are.

[Beanjuice]

Anyone think Two-Face might be too scary? It could drive away the kids, like with Batman returns, we all know what happened after that....



:whatever:

i will send you a hundred dollars if you can point out one thing about this movie that looks kid friendly. children should stay away from this movie and wait for a new cartoon to come out. its about time we had a serious mature batman film after schumacher killed it with all of the cheesiness

[Marx]

:whatever:

i will send you a hundred dollars if you can point out one thing about this movie that looks kid friendly. children should stay away from this movie and wait for a new cartoon to come out. its about time we had a serious mature batman film after schumacher killed it with all of the cheesiness

My thoughts exactly! http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

[Clark Kent]

children should stay away from this movie and wait for a new cartoon to come out.

Children who'd enjoy a Batman cartoon would presumably enjoy a Batman movie. Why shouldn't they be allowed to?

[TinkTonks]

Does **anyone** have any idea where to find a bigger version of this pic?? I saw it in the Official Photo thread. I just wasted 2 hours of my life searching every image sight I could find~LOL! :oldrazz: (not like I actually *have* a life or anything! :hehe: )

http://bp0.blogger.com/_dUkFGeKr4aU/SDt5eOi_Q3I/AAAAAAAAB3I/IYM9MV5TeII/s400/DK23.jpg

[smatt584]

At the risk of seeming a completely uneducated dickwad, have you all read this article on CHUD about how Nolan plans to film/portray two-face's dual identities? (warning, may contain spoilers):

http://chud.com/articles/articles/13931/1/THE-TWO-PERFORMANCES-OF-TWO-FACE/Page1.html

[BatmanFanatic]

At the risk of seeming a completely uneducated dickwad, have you all read this article on CHUD about how Nolan plans to film/portray two-face's dual identities? (warning, may contain spoilers):

http://chud.com/articles/articles/13931/1/THE-TWO-PERFORMANCES-OF-TWO-FACE/Page1.html

That is utterly AMAZING.

Thanks for the link, that was awesome...

[turtlefocker]

At the risk of seeming a completely uneducated dickwad, have you all read this article on CHUD about how Nolan plans to film/portray two-face's dual identities? (warning, may contain spoilers):

http://chud.com/articles/articles/13931/1/THE-TWO-PERFORMANCES-OF-TWO-FACE/Page1.html

Since they have no quotes from Nolan or sources of any kind it seems a little... "how do they know"...

[Crook]

I can't remember the last time CHUD had an exclusive scoop on Batman.

[turtlefocker]

I like the sound of it so I'd like it to be real but something about the way the article is written just scream "********!"

[TheBatman072]

I can't remember the last time CHUD had an exclusive scoop on Batman.


*shrugs* Law of Averages.

[Crook]

Actually, I think DH were the first to report that cgi rumor. CHUD just expanded on it.

[Spidey-Sean]

This is interesting regardless of being true or not, but I don't quite get it yet. Blending of the two recordings via GGI blends? Half of his face freaking out digitally merged to a simultaneous normal reading of lines on the other face? I don't understand. The article is a little unclear, but it does mention two performances in the same shot right? Are we talking two Harvey's face to face? Or a blended performance (which doesn't quite make sense).

[BatmanFanatic]

Here's what I'm thinking. They mentioned Golum... remember how when he spoke there were these fast jump cuts between words, and he seemed to have split personalities?

I think they had Dent say his lines normally and then say them with the insane side of the character and filmed both versions. Then they might edit them together, jumping back and forth between words and sentences. With good editing the effect would be awesome, and quite shocking. :yay:

[BatoutofHell]

Heres an example this crowd will understand.

In American Psycho Willem Dafoe acted his scenes in three different ways. One, he knew Bateman did it, two, he wasn't sure, and three, he thought he didn't. They edited these three performances so the audience is kept guessing as to what he actually knows.

[Spidey-Sean]

Heres an example this crowd will understand.

In American Psycho Willem Dafoe acted his scenes in three different ways. One, he knew Bateman did it, two, he wasn't sure, and three, he thought he didn't. They edited these three performances so the audience is kept guessing as to what he actually knows.

So that would be multiple performances in the same scene, not shot. The article says in the same shot. I imagine the article meant to say "in the same scene".

[BatmanFanatic]

So that would be multiple performances in the same scene, not shot. The article says in the same shot. I imagine the article meant to say "in the same scene".

I think what they meant is it will be in the same shot when it's all edited together.

[Keymaker]

Heres an example this crowd will understand.

In American Psycho Willem Dafoe acted his scenes in three different ways. One, he knew Bateman did it, two, he wasn't sure, and three, he thought he didn't. They edited these three performances so the audience is kept guessing as to what he actually knows.
That's an interesting way of doing things but it can also be mistaken for bad acting. It might seem like the actor doesn't know what the hell he's doing and what his character is thinking :D

[Eggyman]

That's the second time I've heard about the Two-Take shots. I love the idea. I think it'll work very well for the character.

[Crook]

I think what they meant is it will be in the same shot when it's all edited together.
That doesn't require CG.

[JayCaz]

Speaking of Willem Defoe, does anyone think a Green Goblin type 2 way mirror thing would work for Two Face?


Or maybe even this?; ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6l0riVfdHQ

[Eggyman]

Speaking of Willem Defoe, does anyone think a Green Goblin type 2 way mirror thing would work for Two Face?


Or maybe even this?; ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6l0riVfdHQ

You lil prince - you read my mind! I was just thinking: 'Ya know what I'd like to watch right about now? Some bald guy having a slash on the floor.' :o

[JayCaz]

You lil prince - you read my mind! I was just thinking: 'Ya know what I'd like to watch right about now? Some bald guy having a slash on the floor.' :o


Did you watch the whole clip? Ben Kingsley got Oscar nominated for that performance my friend (and was robbed).

[Eggyman]

Did you watch the whole clip? Ben Kingsley got Oscar nominated for that performance my friend (and was robbed).

Yeh, I watched the whole clip. http://bestsmileys.com/peeing/1.gif

;)

[Darknight432]

What i hope to see is Harvey Dents other side before he's scarred

[Dr. Crane]

^ i as well hope to see a little of his angry side before the inevitable drink in the face.....

[BatoutofHell]

We've all seen it, and I'll wager thats the last we'll see of you.

[BatoutofHell]

^ i as well hope to see a little of his angry side before the inevitable drink in the face.....

Yeah, I think we will. I doubt Nolan would go with "Wonderboy Wonderboy Wonderboy *Tragic Accident* Gah I'm evil!"

[magus]

Yeah, I think we will. I doubt Nolan would go with "Wonderboy Wonderboy Wonderboy *Tragic Accident* Gah I'm evil!"

Honestly, either one could work just fine. I like Big Bad Harv, as I think it makes the transformation more believable, but I would be ok if they didn't do it that way.

[The Caped Knight]

http://www.worstpreviews.com/images/headlines/headline2323.jpg
You know it's a real tragedy that when all is said and done . All the Hard work everyone put in to get Harvey Dent into office . When he becomes the villain TWO-FACE, he will have become the very thing he fought against as District attorney .

[Beanjuice]

http://www.worstpreviews.com/images/headlines/headline2323.jpg
You know it's a real tragedy that when all is said and done . All the Hard work everyone put in to get Harvey Dent into office . When he becomes the villain TWO-FACE, he will have become the very thing he fought against as District attorney .

thats why hes such a compelling character

[TheBatman072]

I'm imagining the Two-Take scenes in my head, and it's ****ing awesome.


Just the good side of Harvey and the bad side of Harvey arguing with each other.


I hope nobody sits infront of me when I see this movie. They'll be getting a little of MY viewing experience on the back of their heads.

[The Caped Knight]

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/batman/btas/episodes/twofacep1/00.jpg
http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/batman/btas/episodes/twofacep2/00.jpg

[magus]

I am extremely curious to see what kind of voice he uses. I loved the BTAS voice and I wonder how Eckhart's will compare.

[Symbiotic]

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/batman/btas/episodes/twofacep2/00.jpgWatched this earlier on youtube. Great stuff.

[Aidan2209]

I am extremely curious to see what kind of voice he uses. I loved the BTAS voice and I wonder how Eckhart's will compare.

I'm also looking forward to that. Right now, I'm guessing he'll use a more aggressive, growling sort of voice for his "second face".

[CrypticOne]

thats why hes such a compelling character

Yep, one of the best characters.

[Jokers_Wild]

I can hardly wait. I so hope this is the live action Harvey/Two-Face we've all wanted to see.

I was thinking about those Total Film interviews, and I think it was Bale who said Harvey was Bruce/Batman's one, great hope for the city. He is/was the face of justice that Batman sought after--longed for.

I get very excited when I think about how emotionally gripping the story of Harvey, along with Bruce, will be as we see this hero of the city be destroyed, along with any hopes Bruce ever entertained of not having to be Batman anymore.

It's great to see how far this franchise has come from the campy Two-Face in Forever hamming it up with Jim Carrey.

[Clark Kent]

the campy Two-Face in Forever hamming it up

c6dDO7YJwrQ

Oh ...















... Christ.

[Schlosser85]

I am extremely curious to see what kind of voice he uses. I loved the BTAS voice and I wonder how Eckhart's will compare.


I remember when the WizardWorld Chicago footage was screened and we first heard about the "Dent I thought you were dead!" "Half.", someone who had seen it was asked this same question and said Eckhart's voice was harsher as Two-Face, somewhat like how Bale changes his voice as Batman (not meaning Two-Face talks like Batman, just somewhat in that direction, a harsher, growlier voice).

[Darknightnomis]

On my way to work this morning I see a guy on a motorcycle wearing a shirt that says: I BELIEVE IN HARLEY DAVISON in the same look and typestyle as the I BELIEVE IN HARVEY DENT slogan . :yay:

[horrorwriter]

I saw one that said " I believe in jesus" with a picture of Jesus in turmoil like he is constantly depicted. But his eyes and mouth are jokerized...

[itsthebatman]

http://www.worstpreviews.com/images/headlines/headline2323.jpg
You know it's a real tragedy that when all is said and done . All the Hard work everyone put in to get Harvey Dent into office . When he becomes the villain TWO-FACE, he will have become the very thing he fought against as District attorney .
Some people will be looking for their campaign donations back.
'I feel that Mr Dent lied to us in his campaign. He never said he was thinking of becoming a supervillain after his election. For that reason I feel our company has given money under false pretences and will be looking for its $5000 back. Anyone know where his new office in the sewers is?'

[TinkTonks]

Some people will be looking for their campaign donations back.
'I feel that Mr Dent lied to us in his campaign. He never said he was thinking of becoming a supervillain after his election. For that reason I feel our company has given money under false pretences and will be looking for its $5000 back. Anyone know where his new office in the sewers is?'

That made me lol!! :hehe::hehe:

[jsf]

c6dDO7YJwrQ

Oh ...









... Christ.

yeah! I liked him as two-face

"No more curtains 1 and 2, just plain curtains."

thats so win.

[magus]

yeah! I liked him as two-face

"No more curtains 1 and 2, just plain curtains."

thats so win.

Tommy Lee Jones could have been a solid two-face but the writing/Shumacher in that movie made it impossible.

[selinakyle415]

thats why hes such a compelling character

Word. :hoboj:

[Figs]

Tommy Lee Jones could have been a solid two-face but the writing/Shumacher in that movie made it impossible.

Hell yeah he could have.

I still would have love to have seen Tommy Lee Jones playing that part in a serious manner.

Damn you Schumacher.

[Two-Face]

Tommy Lee Jones could have been a solid two-face but the writing/Shumacher in that movie made it impossible.

I always say this TLJ is an great actor, he do what he's given in this case I blame WB & Schumacher.

[The Caped Knight]

I always say this TLJ is an great actor, he do what he's given in this case I blame WB & Schumacher.


http://images.allmoviephoto.com/1995_Batman_Forever/tommy_lee_jones_batman_forever_001.jpg

He looked the part , and I thought that even with his joker like character . TLJ still mange to shine in BATMAN FOREVER .

I'll never forget his intro scene , It was pure comic book Two-Face as was the scene when he was ready to kill The Riddler .

[The Caped Knight]

And his girlfriends were pretty hot “Sugar” & “Spice”
http://www.zedlandfantasies.com/batfortwofacegirls.gif
http://img169.exs.cx/img169/2537/sugarspice5nb.jpg
http://www.ziyue.com/person/d/DrewBarrymore/batman01.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/debimazar3/pictures/022.jpg

[DarkReflections]

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/batman/btas/episodes/twofacep1/00.jpg
http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/batman/btas/episodes/twofacep2/00.jpg

those 2 episodes are in my top 5 favorite episodes of btas. they are just so ****ing brilliant.

[blueblazer2]

And his girlfriends were pretty hot “Sugar” & “Spice”
http://www.zedlandfantasies.com/batfortwofacegirls.gif
http://img169.exs.cx/img169/2537/sugarspice5nb.jpg
http://www.ziyue.com/person/d/DrewBarrymore/batman01.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/debimazar3/pictures/022.jpg

Drew Barrymoore looks really Hot in those Pics

[blueblazer2]

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/batman/btas/episodes/twofacep1/00.jpg
http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/batman/btas/episodes/twofacep2/00.jpg

I love Two Face theme Music . It was Dark and Sad

[Zohan Dvir]

Drew Barrymoore looks really Hot in those Pics

I was gonna say the same thing. Wawawewa I like!

[Fanticon]

I hope nobody sits infront of me when I see this movie. They'll be getting a little of MY viewing experience on the back of their heads.

ROFL! That is the funniest thing I've heard all day. Thank you for that. :woot::up:

[Fanticon]

those 2 episodes are in my top 5 favorite episodes of btas. they are just so ****ing brilliant.

best line..."Theres just one problem, your talking to the wrong Harvey..." ...evil.

[The Caped Knight]

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk280/STKthedarknightGIF/HDJGrooftop.gif
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk280/STKthedarknightGIF/harvscoin.gif

I can't wait to see these scenes .

[StylishHokie21]

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/batman/btas/episodes/twofacep1/00.jpg
http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/batman/btas/episodes/twofacep2/00.jpg

I love those episodes.

[DarkReflections]

best line..."Theres just one problem, your talking to the wrong Harvey..." ...evil.

yeah that line was awesome. :yay:

[StylishHokie21]

c6dDO7YJwrQ

Oh ...















... Christ.
Haha! Tommy Lee Jones was alright. He would have been even better if the script wasn't ****.

[Saint]

He was absolutely not "alright." He was an offense, a worthless Jack Nicholson imitator that only served to induce vomit.

[Beanjuice]

He was absolutely not "alright." He was an offense, a worthless Jack Nicholson imitator that only served to induce vomit.

harsh words...but word from a man i trust :cwink:

[Matchbox]

harsh words...but word from a man i trust :cwink:

I think much of Saint's harshness toward his performance of Two-Face stems from the fact that Tommy Lee Jones is a fantastic actor. The expectation level is and should be high.

[Beanjuice]

I think much of Saint's harshness toward his performance of Two-Face stems from the fact that Tommy Lee Jones is a fantastic actor. The expectation level is and should be high.


the only problem i had with two face was his makeup,everything else i thought was fine for that type of film. i rather see it for what it is,and not what i want it to be,m thats how things lead to disappointment

[inflames]

the only problem i had with two face was his makeup,everything else i thought was fine for that type of film. i rather see it for what it is,and not what i want it to be,m thats how things lead to disappointmentthat type of batman movie shouldn't even exist.:o

[Schlosser85]

Kinda reminds of the deep appreciation we owe Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, and Christopher Nolan, doesn't it?

[PeteVenkman]

Haha! Tommy Lee Jones was alright. He would have been even better if the script wasn't ****.

Unfortunately his Two Face fit the movie. When Harvey is going to kill them and Batman asks him "aren't you going to flip for it, you're always two minds about everything?" and Harvey responds with "Yes, thank you bruce, you were always a good friend." or something like that.... That was the only time they touched on the fact that there was seemingly still "goodness" left in him. That little part of the movie showed what he potentially could have been.

I really think this Two Face will be utterly tragic, which will make it all the better. Hopefully the third movie touches more on the fact that his battle is of good vs evil, not bad vs crazy or whatever the Forever Two Face was.

[Jahan]

I really think this Two Face will be utterly tragic, which will make it all the better. Hopefully the third movie touches more on the fact that his battle is of good vs evil, not bad vs crazy or whatever the Forever Two Face was.

Agreed. Comic book writers often just have Two-Face as a bat-***** crazy guy. I would like to see a great conflict, of not only emotions but morals and ethics.
Imagine Two-Face cornering a mob boss; the Harvey pysche wanting to cuff him up and leave him for the police but the Two-Face pysche telling him *out loud* to put a bullet in the guys head (in a "better off dead" point of view).

But not in a "oh my God, he's a schizo!" way, with him arguing with himself, more so The Long Halloween type with the 2 distinctive voices".

Infact I remember reading a Batman comic at my school library that went over the life of Harvey Dent (I think it was the "first" time he was cured, Im not so sure, the art was in a Batman Year One style) and it showed his struggle with sanity through his p.o.v. Case in point being that he is in a court room arguing with a judge when he (in his day dream) pulls out a gun and simply shoots the defendant. The judge shouts at him and Harvey shoots the judge, then the jury for being so crap at their job (but not pot shots at random civvies). I remember reading that really creeped me out about him. how he had this inner urge (like most of use do) to just let go but his was personified with great violence.

[Bunker]

Punyfan, take it down now...

[Anubis Raptor]

Punyfan, take it down now...


**** off

[Batnam]

uh oh.....

[MercuryEnigma]

Wrong answer.... lol

[Bunker]

**** off

Just trying to help...

I predict a banning in your future :o

[Batnam]

dun dun dun...

[Manosman]

Well thats just asking for whats coming! :woot:

[Batnam]

bye bye

[Fred-Green]

**** off
being a jerk and posting banned pictures? you make getting banned look easy sir

[Cagefighterkip]

there were banned pictures posted?

can i ask... w/out getting banned... what of?

[SalaciousVC]

**** off

Ow :o

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk280/STKthedarknightGIF/HDJGrooftop.gif
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk280/STKthedarknightGIF/harvscoin.gif

I can't wait to see these scenes .

Im with ya on that one Kal-El, for damn sure!

[The Caped Knight]

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/batman/btas/bios/twoface/15.jpg
TWO-FACE: Good head - We leave 'em alone, bad head we hit 'em hard.

TWO-FACE: Chance, Grace. Change is everything. Whether you're born or not. Whether you live or die. Whether you're good or bad. It's all arbitrary.

BATMAN: Let the law handle it.
TWO-FACE: The law!? Here's the only law! The law of averages! The great equalizer!

~ Batman : The animated series [two-Face part II]

TWO-FACE: Get out of my face, clown!
JOKER: Which one?

STRANGE: Joker, please! I was set up! Bruce Wayne is Batman!
TWO-FACE: That's absurd! I know Bruce Wayne. If he's Batman, I'm the King of England.

~ Batman : The Animated Series - [The Strange Secret of Bruce Wayne]

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/batman/tnba/bios/twoface/08.jpg
TWO-FACE: Attention, people of Gotham City. I've got a simple equation for you. One plus one equals Armageddon. When these liquids are mixed together they create a nasty gas. Unless I receive twenty-two millions dollars by 2 a.m. they'll be two kinds of citizens in Gotham: the dying and the dead. ~ BTAS/TNBA - [Sins of the Father ]

[Fred-Green]

there were banned pictures posted?

can i ask... w/out getting banned... what of?
it was a banned two-face concept art. its suppose to be really close to what will be in the film

[smatt584]

it was a banned two-face concept art. its suppose to be really close to what will be in the film

Yeah only a few websites have it, but you can still find it easily enough

Like i have http://thefour11.org/2008/05/05/harvey-dent-a-man-who-sees-both-sides/

[Bunker]

Why can't people just Google it and save the trouble of someone getting banned?

[smatt584]

I'll take one for the team :D

[Patty]

I'll take one for the team :D

*swoons*

[Fanticon]

thats the first time I've seen that leaked concept art twoface pic...I think its way over the top...Nolan, the mpaa and the actors probably wouldn't go for it....it looks like something out of Return of The Living Dead...the sh***y ones.

[Beanjuice]

thats the first time I've seen that leaked concept art twoface pic...I think its way over the top...Nolan, the mpaa and the actors probably wouldn't go for it....it looks like something out of Return of The Living Dead...the sh***y ones.

keep in mind it is a concept,not the finished product

[regwec]

He's right with reference to the picture itself, though. It blows the "Nolan is teh realizm!" argument out of the water.

[Two-Face]

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk280/STKthedarknightGIF/HDJGrooftop.gif
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk280/STKthedarknightGIF/harvscoin.gif

I can't wait to see these scenes .




Me too!


30K YAY!!

[Crook]

He's right with reference to the picture itself, though. It blows the "Nolan is teh realizm!" argument out of the water.
All the more reason why it should stay.

[itsthebatman]

Has Nolan himself not said that he was aiming for a more realistic take on the Batman story? I could swear he said that in one of the comcast clips. He may not aim for realism in all aspects of the production, but it definitely underpins his view of how to do things.

[Figs]

LOL

First there was all the arguing about realism or not involving the microwave emitter, then there was the arguing about realism involving getting bleached and for what reasons did Nolan not make Joker permawhite.

Now we're going to have people arguing about how the leaked Two Face pic is unrealistic.

From what I remember Nolan had said he wanted the films grounded in reality...key word is Grounded. He said he wanted there to be reasons for things instead of just them being that way.

With that being said, he never said the movies were going to be realistic...just wanted them grounded in reality a bit. Which means, we most likely won't ever get Man Bat or Clayface in his films but when it comes to a character like Two Face...if you want to get realistic the acid in the face would have killed him either from reaching his brain or from trauma from the pain.

So, in short...a man surviving a horrible disfiguration like that where a whole can of acid is thrown at him is Not realistic. Thus, if it looks fairly close to that leaked pic(which it damn well should)it won't ruin Nolan's credibility since he's already used a microwave emitter and I'll say again using a character that survives major acid to the face.

Personally, if they don't go that route...I sure as hell wouldn't want them to go the Batman Forever or Animated Series route where his lip somehow enlarged(or eyeball for that matter in regards to B:TAS)and his skin just changed colors.

[regwec]

But does he achieve it? We already know that Begins compromised that "ideal", so we can conclude that Nolan is willing to be fantastical when he things an unrealistic concept is cool. So the "necessity", for istance, of a face-painting Joker is removed.

[Beanjuice]

He's right with reference to the picture itself, though. It blows the "Nolan is teh realizm!" argument out of the water.


well how else would you expect a guy hit in the face with acid to look?


like this?

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q158/selinakyle30/facial.jpg

or this?

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m279/Carnigan-Smiley/TwoFace.jpg

hopefully not this abomination

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j191/joey_hates_the_world/twofacebf.jpg

[Keyser Soze]

But does he achieve it? We already know that Begins compromised that "ideal", so we can conclude that Nolan is willing to be fantastical when he things an unrealistic concept is cool. So the "necessity", for istance, of a face-painting Joker is removed.

I, for one, never viewed the decision to make The Joker apply make-up as a "necessity" forced on Nolan by some dedication to realism. I think it was a creative decision, to take a different approach to the character.

[Patty]

LOL

First there was all the arguing about realism or not involving the microwave emitter, then there was the arguing about realism involving getting bleached and for what reasons did Nolan not make Joker permawhite.

Now we're going to have people arguing about how the leaked Two Face pic is unrealistic.

From what I remember Nolan had said he wanted the films grounded in reality...key word is Grounded. He said he wanted there to be reasons for things instead of just them being that way.

With that being said, he never said the movies were going to be realistic...just wanted them grounded in reality a bit. Which means, we most likely won't ever get Man Bat or Clayface in his films but when it comes to a character like Two Face...if you want to get realistic the acid in the face would have killed him either from reaching his brain or from trauma from the pain.

So, in short...a man surviving a horrible disfiguration like that where a whole can of acid is thrown at him is Not realistic. Thus, if it looks fairly close to that leaked pic(which it damn well should)it won't ruin Nolan's credibility since he's already used a microwave emitter and I'll say again using a character that survives major acid to the face.

Personally, if they don't go that route...I sure as hell wouldn't want them to go the Batman Forever or Animated Series route where his lip somehow enlarged(or eyeball for that matter in regards to B:TAS)and his skin just changed colors.

AMEN. I think anyone hit with any amount of acid to the face would prolly have an Aneurysm, stroke, heart attack, or somethin like that. F**k I know I would if someone knocked me in the face with sulphuric.

[itsthebatman]

I, for one, never viewed the decision to make The Joker apply make-up as a "necessity" forced on Nolan by some dedication to realism. I think it was a creative decision, to take a different approach to the character.
You stole into my head and plucked the words right out of my brain. The question is, was it the right creative decision?
Wrong thread, lets not start anything that we can fight about in the 'To Bleach or not to Bleach' thread instead.

[Keyser Soze]

You stole into my head and plucked the words right out of my brain. The question is, was it the right creative decision?
Wrong thread, lets not start anything that we can fight about in the 'To Bleach or not to Bleach' thread instead.

Yeah, back to Two-Face.

I love the concept art. I'd be happy if he ended up looking just like that. Yeah, some detractors say it's not realistic, that he'd die with burns that severe. But come on. We're talking about a movie featuring a man who dresses as a bat to fight crime.

[itsthebatman]

Yeah, back to Two-Face.

I love the concept art. I'd be happy if he ended up looking just like that. Yeah, some detractors say it's not realistic, that he'd die with burns that severe. But come on. We're talking about a movie featuring a man who dresses as a bat to fight crime.
I think the art looks just fine. I couldn't care less if its not realistic - it looks good.

[Figs]

Yeah, back to Two-Face.

I love the concept art. I'd be happy if he ended up looking just like that. Yeah, some detractors say it's not realistic, that he'd die with burns that severe. But come on. We're talking about a movie featuring a man who dresses as a bat to fight crime.


That wasn't in reference to me and my recent post was it?

Because I'm a supporter of the leaked pic, and I do realize it does need some touchups.

My point was that because it looks unrealistic in terms of someone surviving that, it wouldn't be too over the edge for Nolan...like I'm guessing Clayface and Manbat would.

[sasquatchs]

The concept art is great, I'd like a version that's a little more raw and less crusted over on the top

[Keyser Soze]

I think the art looks just fine. I couldn't care less if its not realistic - it looks good.

I thought so, too. It's a perfect translation of the spirit of the comics. I mean, I remember reading Two-Face's appearance in "Knightfall", there's one moment where a guy just looks at him, and the sight of his face makes him throw up. It's just that hideous!

I think the gory direction they've taken with the look in "The Dark Knight" captures this perfectly. It's the kind of face you can imagine sending you over the deep-end and driving you insane if you saw it in the mirror.

[Patty]

The concept art is great, I'd like a version that's a little more raw and less crusted over on the top


if it is real they prolly had to make much of it "crunchy black" to get the pg-13

[Keyser Soze]

That wasn't in reference to me and my recent post was it?

Because I'm a supporter of the leaked pic, and I do realize it does need some touchups.

My point was that because it looks unrealistic in terms of someone surviving that, it wouldn't be too over the edge for Nolan...like I'm guessing Clayface and Manbat would.

It wasn't sure post, Figs. It was more a general sentiment of the look's critics that was prominent back when the concept art was first leaked. It segued into all this technical discussion about him going into shock, and wound infection, to the point where I just wanted to scream "HE'S A COMIC BOOK SUPERVILLAIN!"

[Figs]

It wasn't sure post, Figs. It was more a general sentiment of the look's critics that was prominent back when the concept art was first leaked. It segued into all this technical discussion about him going into shock, and wound infection, to the point where I just wanted to scream "HE'S A COMIC BOOK SUPERVILLAIN!"


Exactly! :up:

[Patty]

maybe hes just that f**king macho that he can get hit with acid and casually wipe it off with his hand (that explains why his hand is burnt too!)

[bkey]

I'm not sure his hand is actually burnt. :wow:

I know it is on the action figure, but in the shot of him in the car from the trailer there doesn't appear to be any scarring on his hand.

[HUMANIMAL]

how bout to use "plausible" or "traceable" instead of "realistic" ???

[aragen]

It wasn't sure post, Figs. It was more a general sentiment of the look's critics that was prominent back when the concept art was first leaked. It segued into all this technical discussion about him going into shock, and wound infection, to the point where I just wanted to scream "HE'S A COMIC BOOK SUPERVILLAIN!"

Or maybe the scarred side is supposed to reflect Harvey's dark side. It's supposed to be gruesome.

[Octoberist]

'realism' is an overused buzzword

[Gianakin_]

'realism' is an overused buzzword

Agreed.

[Octoberist]

yes!

[The Caped Knight]

well how else would you expect a guy hit in the face with acid to look?


like this?

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q158/selinakyle30/facial.jpg

or this?

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m279/Carnigan-Smiley/TwoFace.jpg

hopefully not this abomination

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j191/joey_hates_the_world/twofacebf.jpg

BTAS is my favorite version of TWO-FACE.

[NoName86]

The scarred side of his face looks like taffy.


The older movie makes me hungry when I watch them because when I see Batman 89, and Joker in that the white looks like powder. He looks like a powdered donuts and that makes me want some donuts. Now I see that pic of two face and it looks like taffy, but it is too bad I can't find taffy around here anymore. lol.

[Patty]

The scarred side of his face looks like taffy.


The older movie makes me hungry when I watch them because when I see Batman 89, and Joker in that the white looks like powder. He looks like a powdered donuts and that makes me want some donuts. Now I see that pic of two face and it looks like taffy, but it is too bad I can't find taffy around here anymore. lol.


AWESOME. :woot:

[Oryon]

Raspberry Taffy to be exact.

mmmm...Raspberry Taffy

[QueenChaos]

The scarred side of his face looks like taffy.


The older movie makes me hungry when I watch them because when I see Batman 89, and Joker in that the white looks like powder. He looks like a powdered donuts and that makes me want some donuts. Now I see that pic of two face and it looks like taffy, but it is too bad I can't find taffy around here anymore. lol.


HAHA
Batman '89 is edible! yum yum I always sort of had the joker-jelly donut idea,
but I never really thought of that actually, concerning two face, it does kind of resemble... taffy.. lol

[Keyser Soze]

In the latest Gotham Times, it says Dent's father died when he was very young, and he was raised by his mother. Does this mean we won't be getting the childhood abuse angle with Dent?

[Aidan2209]

^Most rikery.

[Nepenthes]

why the hell would you want to go into his childhood abuse anyway. not when you have the Joker, vigilantes, mob wars, blackmail, batpods, mass carnage and Gator to keep you occupied



http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m279/Carnigan-Smiley/TwoFace.jpg

never seen this before. wow. any others?





my main problem with the concept art (do we know this is concept art for certain?) is that his scarred side looks like a deer in the headlights. He looks dazed and corpse-like, more like a cheap horror-house mannequin than a scarred man ravaged by schizophrenia.

Also with no eyebrows, eyelids or lips it's nigh impossible to show facial expressions out what is essentially a crusted mask. Why would you do that, just paralyze half of an actors face? It means the Two-Face side of his identity would have less personality than Harvey Dent. This makes Harvey Dent the dominant side no matter what you do, that's how it will be perceived, as Harvey Dent merely "behaving" angry and psychotic with one half of his face frozen into a goofy stare, and not actually Two-Face and Harvey existing as separate identities in one body. He looks disgusting but can he convey emotion, or even menace? The second face of Two-Face needs to look like be a real person, not a doll.

[imnotbatman]

i really dont see why so many ppl hated TLJ's twoface look, hes pretty much comic accurate and just gruesome enough.

[Bat-Mite]

Edit: Oops.. you said the look. I thought you meant the character in general. But yeah, aside from the outlandish dress (even more far out than the comics ever went), his scarred side looked like his face was covered in purple silly putty.

[TNC9852002]

Yeah, TLJ's Two-Face is pretty accurate, but they turned it a little too cartoony by making his face so brightly pink and giving him more of a permanent grin on that side instead of it looking like his cheekbones and jaw muscles were destroyed.

-TNC

[The Guard]

It wasn't sure post, Figs. It was more a general sentiment of the look's critics that was prominent back when the concept art was first leaked. It segued into all this technical discussion about him going into shock, and wound infection, to the point where I just wanted to scream "HE'S A COMIC BOOK SUPERVILLAIN!"

You know, that actually kind of makes sense. Shock can take many forms, perhaps for Harvey Dent that's a part of it, that muddled inability to think clearly. In many versions of the character, the acid has eaten through, affected his brain, etc, that would be another angle of the same idea.

[Conebone69]

I really hope two-face looks like the leaked action figure pic

[TheBatman072]

In the latest Gotham Times, it says Dent's father died when he was very young, and he was raised by his mother. Does this mean we won't be getting the childhood abuse angle with Dent?


Hmm.


All depends on HOW young. If Harvey's dad was dick enough, he could have beat him a few times before kicking the bucket, and Harvey was young enough to either not remember or just block it out.


So, we've got the possibility of repressed memories.

[batman_1982]

Maybe there will be a bit more to how harvey's dad died? Maybe he was killed by a mugger like bruce's parents in this one, which would help give them something to relate to. It's a bit of a stretch but you never know?

[TehUberMuffinXD]

I really hope two-face looks like the leaked action figure pic

I'd rather see Two-Face look like the concept art, but the design of the action figure, how it looks as if only part of his face is scarred, not right down the middle.

[Spoonman]

Yeah, TLJ's Two-Face is pretty accurate, but they turned it a little too cartoony by making his face so brightly pink and giving him more of a permanent grin on that side instead of it looking like his cheekbones and jaw muscles were destroyed.

-TNC

Exactly, I actually like TLJ's makeup as Two-Face for the most part, What I don't like is the coloring, but the scarring itself is cool to me (love the evil grin). Of course I'm not saying that's something I'd like to see in TDK.

[Keyser Soze]

You know, that actually kind of makes sense. Shock can take many forms, perhaps for Harvey Dent that's a part of it, that muddled inability to think clearly. In many versions of the character, the acid has eaten through, affected his brain, etc, that would be another angle of the same idea.

No, what I meant was, they were arguing that, realistically speaking, Dent would die from shock or infection, that he couldn't survive, never mind become the criminal Two-Face.

[Octoberist]

check this out

http://www.whysoserious.com/myhero/

[AzBat]

Meltdown in 3... 2... 1...

AzBat

[Rocker22]

Nice.

[deathfromabove]

:wow:

[antsman41]

t... i... t... i... e... s...

[Bunker]

**** me.

[BAILY]

my god.. too much spoilerage for me now.. I CANT STOP ..

[antsman41]

was that tim sale drawing that lol

[Crook]

Was he using a Two-Face voice, or intentionally sticking with Harvey? If it's the former, I'm disappointed.

[beyond_death]

Fark, where did this come from?!?!

[Keyser Soze]

check this out

http://www.whysoserious.com/myhero/

HOLY CRAP! :wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow:

[Octoberist]

the hues in the scene reminds me of the Godfather Part 2..

[gwynplaine]

I like Two-Face's voice and once again beautiful lighting by maestro Wally Pfister.

[TheBatman072]

Holy ****...

[AzBat]

Video was the prize for finishing today's viral game. If you played then you would know this. ;) It came from GothamCityPizzeria.com.

AzBat

[ih8nyy]

Was he using a Two-Face voice, or intentionally sticking with Harvey? If it's the former, I'm disappointed.


I don't know, sounded a little more raspy too me.

[deathfromabove]

Was he using a Two-Face voice, or intentionally sticking with Harvey? If it's the former, I'm disappointed.

well color me shocked:whatever:

[Conebone69]

Oh myyyyy, oh myyyyy god! :wow:

[Zohan Dvir]

Sweet

[Crook]

I don't know, sounded a little more raspy too me.
It was too quick to tell, I must admit. I would have preferred if they did a "double" voice, like in BTAS. But we'll see.

well color me shocked:whatever:
And I'm shocked you once again took offense to a harmless question. :funny:

Would it make you feel better if I listed the same things everyone else is happy about, thereby only coming off as repetitive? It amazes me how you can't just block me, since all you ever offer is a quick retort and an eyeroll. It'd save you much stress.

[Two-Face]

WTF WAS THAT!! I wish could watch all of it.


I like it "half"

[DesertBat86]

WHERE THE HELL DID THAT COME FROM?!?!?!?!

:wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow:

[ih8nyy]

It amazes me how you can't just block me, since all you ever offer is a quick retort and an eyeroll. It'd save you much stress.

:hehe:

[theShape]

Whoa. That was shocking. Someone should have warned us that it was a video.

[Keyser Soze]

Was he using a Two-Face voice, or intentionally sticking with Harvey? If it's the former, I'm disappointed.

Well, its only two words, so its hard to really get an impression. It does mainly sound like he's sticking to the Harvey voice, but I dunno. I do get a slight vibe of Eckhart channeling the spirit of Tobin Bell...

[Two-Face]

Burns seem look real...

[Crook]

Well, its only two words, so its hard to really get an impression. It does mainly sound like he's sticking to the Harvey voice, but I dunno. I do get a slight vibe of Eckhart channeling the spirit of Tobin Bell...
Yeah it wasn't enough to really tell, hence why I'm not so sure. I'd hope they use a scarier voice for Two-Face, since I really cannot picture a nice tone to go with the jarring image and persona.

The dialog does hint that it may be Eckhart using Harvey intentionally, though. "Hello" and "Half" are delivered in calm and cool manner as if he was just greeting an old friend. If that's the case, then I'm for it.

[StillTheKing]

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk280/STKthedarknightGIF/2facesmall.gif

Just made this bad boy, ENJOY!

:brucebat: