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Conebone69
06-16-2008, 08:38 PM
What if thats the last scene of the movie lol. That would be a good ending, I think. But I dont think they would show us the ending. Personally I have a feeling were not gonna see two-face's face in the film, because im pretty sure they would mention something in the rating about "distrubing images."

Two-Face
06-16-2008, 08:39 PM
"Big bad Harv" voice what Eckhart needs, or something similar.

Two-Face
06-16-2008, 08:39 PM
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk280/STKthedarknightGIF/2facesmall.gif

Just made this bad boy, ENJOY!

:brucebat:



Thanks :up::wow:

antsman41
06-16-2008, 08:40 PM
you see, nolan films on harvey's side when harvey talks then slides to Two's side when he spoke... dirty idea wally/nolan

deathfromabove
06-16-2008, 08:41 PM
And I'm shocked you once again took offense to a harmless question. :funny:

Would it make you feel better if I listed the same things everyone else is happy about, thereby only coming off as repetitive? It amazes me how you can't just block me, since all you ever offer is a quick retort and an eyeroll. It'd save you much stress.

i am not offended. and nothing that comes "out of your mouth" has the abilty to stress or offend me sir.

sorry.



my point was it is no suprise that one of the boards resident negative nellies is already diisapointed after two lines.


:whatever::whatever::whatever::whatever::oldrazz:

Bunker
06-16-2008, 08:42 PM
What if thats the last scene of the movie lol. That would be a good ending, I think. But I dont think they would show us the ending. Personally I have a feeling were not gonna see two-face's face in the film, because im pretty sure they would mention something in the rating about "distrubing images."

I hope to god I just didn't watch the ending...:csad:

gwynplaine
06-16-2008, 08:43 PM
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk280/STKthedarknightGIF/2facesmall.gif

Just made this bad boy, ENJOY!

:brucebat:
Cool. That barman or customer or whatever is a very good actor. You can really see the shock and fear in his eyes.

Gotham
06-16-2008, 08:43 PM
That was... wow, I can't believe they revealed it!

Keyser Soze
06-16-2008, 08:43 PM
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk280/STKthedarknightGIF/2facesmall.gif

Just made this bad boy, ENJOY!

:brucebat:

Nice!

Two things that occur to me:

1. It appears Two-Face now has hair on the scarred side. Does this imply a change from the concept art? Or is this just the angle/lighting of the shot? Facially, what little we see implies this is a lot like the concept art.

2. Harvey Dent is one hardcore motherf***er. Downing booze, with THAT raw wound? Stiiiiiiiiiingy!

StillTheKing
06-16-2008, 08:44 PM
Does anyone know if Nolan has any affect on the virals?
I know its very unlikely that he does but I was just wondering, I just wish Nolan got to decide what gets released to the public, even though I know that would never happen. Cause I thought that he should be the one letting 42 release this 2face video
I love it though!

gwynplaine
06-16-2008, 08:45 PM
Nice!

Two things that occur to me:

1. It appears Two-Face now has hair on the scarred side. Does this imply a change from the concept art? Or is this just the angle/lighting of the shot? Facially, what little we see implies this is a lot like the concept art.

2. Harvey Dent is one hardcore motherf***er. Downing booze, with THAT raw wound? Stiiiiiiiiiingy!
Lol, yeah that made me think of Captain Vidal in Pan's labyrinth.

Gotham
06-16-2008, 08:45 PM
Does anyone know if Nolan has any affect on the virals?
I know its very unlikely that he does but I was just wondering, I just wish Nolan got to decide what gets released to the public, even though I know that would never happen. Cause I thought that he should be the one letting 42 release this 2face video
I love it though!

I don't think he has any control over the viral marketing, but I think the posters, yeah.

Keyser Soze
06-16-2008, 08:46 PM
Does anyone know if Nolan has any affect on the virals?
I know its very unlikely that he does but I was just wondering, I just wish Nolan got to decide what gets released to the public, even though I know that would never happen

I'm sure the virals are showing nothing from the film that Nolan doesn't approve of us seeing.

That's why I don't feel spoiled, any more than I would feel spoiled by what I've seen in one of the trailers. Nolan also showed this clip to the Wizard-World audience, way back last year. He's fine with us seeing it.

Rocker22
06-16-2008, 08:50 PM
Is that some jaw I see in there?

JaD
06-16-2008, 08:50 PM
Cool. That barman or customer or whatever is a very good actor. You can really see the shock and fear in his eyes.
Yeah, I was gonna say the same thing, he did a good job, and the music building made it even better *heart beating faster as I just watched it again* :wow:

gwynplaine
06-16-2008, 08:51 PM
I wonder what Harvey's drinking ? I know it's a double but I wonder what it is:woot:.

StillTheKing
06-16-2008, 08:52 PM
I'm sure the virals are showing nothing from the film that Nolan doesn't approve of us seeing.

That's why I don't feel spoiled, any more than I would feel spoiled by what I've seen in one of the trailers. Nolan also showed this clip to the Wizard-World audience, way back last year. He's fine with us seeing it.

Yea you do have a point, I just hope this is the end or close to the end of the footage being released. Cause I swear if a new trailer comes out with cool new footage soon im going to have break my computer. Im going to ruin the movie for myself.

Temptation is a powerful thing, I cant resist new Dark Knight stuff!:oldrazz:

Crook
06-16-2008, 08:54 PM
i am not offended. and nothing that comes "out of your mouth" has the abilty to stress or offend me sir.

sorry.
When you end half of your posts with a sarcastic and remark and a family of these: :whatever::whatever::whatever::whatever:

Obviously something's bugging you.

my point was it is no suprise that one of the boards resident negative nellies is already diisapointed after two lines.

Not surprised that once again you're completely wrong about me. I'm more excited for this film than any film I can even remember, so that shows how much you think you know. Just because I can freely write my disappointments and critiques on this project, doesn't change the fact that I'm eagerly awaiting it and fully expect to enjoy the film.

But of course, in such a black and white world; any negativity towards a film MUST mean they're a hater, right? Moving on. :yay:

I hope to god I just didn't watch the ending...:csad:

Nolan also showed this clip to the Wizard-World audience, way back last year. He's fine with us seeing it.
That's probably not going to be near the ending then, if it's released this early. We know he has at least two more scenes as Two-Face, so this is probably his introduction.

the_monk
06-16-2008, 08:54 PM
It'd be rad if the drink seeped through some tears in his mouth.

JayTee
06-16-2008, 08:56 PM
ARGH!!!! That's just too cool!

Why oh why does this movie keep flip flopping!?

Keyser Soze
06-16-2008, 08:59 PM
Don't you just love how the music lingers for a couple of seconds after the blackout?

deathfromabove
06-16-2008, 08:59 PM
When you end half of your posts with a sarcastic and remark and a family of these: :whatever::whatever::whatever::whatever:

Obviously something's bugging you.


Not surprised that once again you're completely wrong about me. I'm more excited for this film than any film I can even remember, so that shows how much you think you know. Just because I can freely write my disappointments and critiques on this project, doesn't change the fact that I'm eagerly awaiting it and fully expect to enjoy the film.

But of course, in such a black and white world; any negativity towards a film MUST mean they're a hater, right? Moving on. :yay:


any negativity? how about all negativity? what then?

and i have no doubt you are anticipating the movie. why else would you be here? but i have no problem pointing out that you spend a large portion of your time complaining. its fine man. do what makes you happy.

try to keep in mind this is a public forum and your comments are open to debate and conjecture.

TheBatman072
06-16-2008, 09:02 PM
ARGH!!!! That's just too cool!

Why oh why does this movie keep flip flopping!?


What?

PJBoy
06-16-2008, 09:02 PM
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk280/STKthedarknightGIF/2facesmall.gif

Just made this bad boy, ENJOY!

:brucebat:
:wow: Motherf...

BrollySupersj
06-16-2008, 09:03 PM
Man, that little clip was awesome!


"Thought yous was dead..."

"Only half..."

JayTee
06-16-2008, 09:04 PM
What?

I found out today Batman actually fires live machine gun rounds from his Batpod in this movie and was complaining about it in the bleached thread half of today.

Now I get a more perfect Two-face video than I could've ever hoped for.

All in the same day. My brain seriously hurts. :woot::o

Stringer
06-16-2008, 09:11 PM
Whoa that came out of nowhere......and Im happy it did.

I wonder if The Joker is still running the streets at that point in the movie

jono974
06-16-2008, 09:13 PM
wouldn't it be awesome if crook and dta stopped *****ing at each other, and just enjoyed the new clip?

it's a rad clip. i'm glad they stuck close to the 'concept art' we saw earlier.

to those worried about this being the end of the film, i'd say it's the start of the 3rd act. pay special attention to the newscast... notice them mentioning any joker-centric plot points?

TNC9852002
06-16-2008, 09:14 PM
check this out

http://www.whysoserious.com/myhero/
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8/headexplodeds1.gif

-TNC

Jesster32388
06-16-2008, 09:16 PM
That was a nice little surprise. The only thing I wish is that his hand was scared. I like how the camera moved to his "bad" side when he starting talking. Awesome

Crook
06-16-2008, 09:16 PM
any negativity? how about all negativity? what then?
You see what you want to see. I've wrote plenty of things I'm excited about in this film. From the cinematography, to the epic scope, the score, to Heath. Just because you fail to see or read these, does not mean it doesn't exist.

The only thing you can say, is I've written in far more detail of what I don't like. Which is only logical since you can't say much with what you're already happy with.

try to keep in mind this is a public forum and your comments are open to debate and conjecture.
I've got no problem with either of those. If I didn't, I wouldn't have stuck to this site for 7 years. But I will take issue to people that make lies or statements that aren't true about me.

Is that some jaw I see in there?
I thought I was the only one. If someone can make a series of screencaps of Two-Face's err.....face, that'd be helpful. I could have sworn I saw flesh on his jaw, which indicated they've taken the design from the toy. I truly hope not, because I found the leaked concept art to be much more appealing.

Bond
06-16-2008, 09:18 PM
The music makes that scene IMO. :up:

The Joker
06-16-2008, 09:18 PM
check this out

http://www.whysoserious.com/myhero/

Jesus Christ, that's AWESOME!!! :wow: :up: I remember when we first heard about this scene waaaaaay back in the day.

I sincerely hope that's not his Two Face voice, though.

Symbiotic
06-16-2008, 09:19 PM
Two words: Heck yeah!

Bond
06-16-2008, 09:20 PM
Just noticed his left hand... thank god it isn't scarred. I'd of been pissed.

Crook
06-16-2008, 09:20 PM
The music makes that scene IMO. :up:
Yup, so does the panning shot. :up:

Can anyone dig up NoirMan's report on this scene? I wonder if there's any more to the bar, or if that's just it, as indicated by the ending "THUMP!" music.

zmystico
06-16-2008, 09:21 PM
I'm glad his hand isn't scared, he's two-face, not two-body. I gotta admit, Two-face is gonna cause alot of jumping in the theatres, I guarantee you'll hear some shouts whenever his face pops up out of nowhere.

kooldude88
06-16-2008, 09:21 PM
for those having trouble watchin it on WSS i have it processing on youtube right now

Hobodeluxe
06-16-2008, 09:21 PM
I hope to god I just didn't watch the ending...:csad:

I don't think so. they talk about how they treat Twoface and how he talks to himself much like Gollum and Smeagol did in LotR

Bond
06-16-2008, 09:23 PM
Yup, so does the panning shot. :up:

Can anyone dig up NoirMan's report on this scene? I wonder if there's any more to the bar, or if that's just it, as indicated by the ending "THUMP!" music.
That's the name! I was trying to remember who it was that witnessed this scene. I'd like to find it as well. I'm too lazy to do it myself though...

Bunker
06-16-2008, 09:23 PM
for those having trouble watchin it on WSS i have it processing on youtube right now

I already uploaded it, you better hurry and beat the maitenenance though.

Conebone69
06-16-2008, 09:23 PM
Just noticed his left hand... thank god it isn't scarred. I'd of been pissed.
Why? I thought thst would of been a nice addition. I also noticed that his suit isnt burnt on the side of his scarred face

Jesster32388
06-16-2008, 09:24 PM
The text on the news report is

national guardsman working with GCPD to investigate Joker's Threat to Bridges and Tunnels

So yes, as stated above, this is most likely the begging to the 3rd act

zmystico
06-16-2008, 09:26 PM
Why? I thought thst would of been a nice addition. I also noticed that his suit isnt burnt on the side of his scarred face

The reason his hand isn't and shouldn't be burnt is because his hands were tied behind him when "they" burned him, as you saw in the trailer his face was laying on the floor when the chemical is being poured

kooldude88
06-16-2008, 09:27 PM
here it is

<object width="425" height="350"> <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/mTHw3vLJpbg"> </param> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/mTHw3vLJpbg" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="350"> </embed> </object>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTHw3vLJpbg

Schlosser85
06-16-2008, 09:28 PM
Tantalizing little clip....didn't really give away Two-Face, and I loved the tension of the music....the guy who says "I thought you were dead" looks familiar to me, not sure why.

riskproductions
06-16-2008, 09:28 PM
Hmmm I LOVE the clip, but I think the VO (voiceover) is just temp for this clip. I feel like the clip we saw at WW had a darker voice, and there was more of a sinister *beat* before Harv replies "half"

Caped Crusader
06-16-2008, 09:28 PM
wow ! awesome.. voice was great

Figs
06-16-2008, 09:29 PM
Jesus Christ, that's AWESOME!!! :wow: :up: I remember when we first heard about this scene waaaaaay back in the day.

I sincerely hope that's not his Two Face voice, though.


Same here. I want it more rough and raspy.


Clip was pretty cool but aside from hoping that's not his Two Face voice I think the cop should have looked a bit more disgusted while staring at his face.

JayTee
06-16-2008, 09:29 PM
The text on the news report is

national guardsman working with GCPD to investigate Joker's Threat to Bridges and Tunnels

So yes, as stated above, this is most likely the begging to the 3rd act

Wouldn't Two-Face be more fitted for the... second half?!

*rimshot!

Bunker
06-16-2008, 09:29 PM
Hmmm I LOVE the clip, but I think the VO (voiceover) is just temp for this clip. I feel like the clip we saw at WW had a darker voice, and there was more of a sinister *beat* before Harv replies "half"

What clip are you talking about?

J.Howlett
06-16-2008, 09:29 PM
That glimpse of Two-Face tells me all I need to know. His look might be too intense. I'm very, very curious to see how this plays with audiences.

Not saying I don't like. I love it but man, the mere glimpse at him is quite shocking. It's an intense look.

TheFamilyGuy
06-16-2008, 09:29 PM
So, yeah, I think that concept art was pretty accurate so far :)

BatMatt
06-16-2008, 09:31 PM
very cool, and I'm assuming that's the last we'll see of any official Two-Face media until the movie

JayTee
06-16-2008, 09:31 PM
I thought the voice was pretty damn raspy. I was afraid he'd just talk in Harvey's normal voice.

digu rui
06-16-2008, 09:32 PM
clip was awesome except i think the cop or whoever he was shouldve been a little more shocked when he saw him. do we know wat part the old man plays in the film?

riskproductions
06-16-2008, 09:33 PM
What clip are you talking about?

The Wizard World clip we saw last year, they showed that last part of the scene. I REALLY dont think he says half there, notice when he says it in this clip he's only cracking his jaw.

In the finished product, he will probably take a shot, then the camera dollies up to have a nice reveal of his face when he says "Half"

JayTee
06-16-2008, 09:33 PM
That glimpse of Two-Face tells me all I need to know. His look might be too intense. I'm very, very curious to see how this plays with audiences.

Not saying I don't like. I love it but man, the mere glimpse at him is quite shocking. It's an intense look.

Really? I think most people, kids included, will walk out going "Two-Face was cool!" having seen more disgusting things on network TV these days.

Caped Crusader
06-16-2008, 09:33 PM
very cool, and I'm assuming that's the last we'll see of any official Two-Face media until the movie

I hope.

zmystico
06-16-2008, 09:33 PM
Two-face is gonna be haunting a bunch of little children, and silly ass grown men in their sleeps for a while.

Figs
06-16-2008, 09:34 PM
I thought the voice was pretty damn raspy. I was afraid he'd just talk in Harvey's normal voice.


Um...that pretty much was Eckhart's/Harvey's normal voice.

Bond
06-16-2008, 09:35 PM
Eckhart's voice isn't like classic Two-face... but I like it! It sounds... dirty.

The Guard
06-16-2008, 09:36 PM
That's Aaron Eckhardt talking like Aaron Eckhardt, in a sort of half-whisper. In all fairness, come on people, you can't gauge Two-Face's quality in THE DARK KNIGHT based on THIS. There's very little there to go on. I will say, I didn't buy the guy's reaction to Two-Face for a second. Not if he's really disfigured.

Spade
06-16-2008, 09:37 PM
His face looks more burnt than acid-scarred, but it's a good sneak peek.

JayTee
06-16-2008, 09:38 PM
Um...that pretty much was Eckhart's/Harvey's normal voice.

It had a more raspy sinister inflection.

He didn't walk in there with his "Rachel's told me so much about you!" voice like "Heyyyy!" "Nah, just half man, no big deal bro!"

Schlosser85
06-16-2008, 09:38 PM
Yea the guy's expression was a little mild, considering Two-Face is obviously going to be pretty gruesome, even from what little we could see of him.

I'd love to get a little clip like this of The Joker making a television broadcast.

JayTee
06-16-2008, 09:40 PM
Eckhart's voice isn't like classic Two-face... but I like it! It sounds... dirty.

Technically Two-Face doesn't have a voice, he's a comic book character.

We've heard BTAS and Tommy Lee Jones. You could land a plane inbetween the range there.

StylishHokie21
06-16-2008, 09:42 PM
Holy ****! :wow: That was amazing.

JayTee
06-16-2008, 09:42 PM
What is with this garbage, some people will believe any hype.

Two-Face will look awesome and scary, there wont be people throwing up all over the theatres people.

Spade
06-16-2008, 09:43 PM
He could have seen his face before. Plus, if you know somebody who's been scarred like that it'd be a little rude to scream like a little girl and run off.

BaleISBatman4ev
06-16-2008, 09:44 PM
Eckhart's voice isn't like classic Two-face... but I like it! It sounds... dirty.

Jesus what do you poeple want him to sound like a monster or what? His voice is perfect, anymore dark and it gets silly, his face got burned he didnt get mutated into a hellboy villain for christs sakes.

And had the cop looked anymore shocked it would teeter on the edge of corny for me, this clip IMHO was a perfect balance of acting/suspense/cinematography.

It felt like godfather but a Batman movie. AWESOME!

Drz
06-16-2008, 09:45 PM
I actually really love his Two-Face voice, its not overdone at all. I mean i've used to the BTAS Two-Face voice and that being a children show had it reason why the voice sounded like it, but this one just sounds more sinister, not overdone or anything at all. =D

Magneto29
06-16-2008, 09:45 PM
Great clip, doesn't show too much, just enough :)

JaD
06-16-2008, 09:46 PM
The Wizard World clip we saw last year, they showed that last part of the scene. I REALLY dont think he says half there, notice when he says it in this clip he's only cracking his jaw.

In the finished product, he will probably take a shot, then the camera dollies up to have a nice reveal of his face when he says "Half"
Yeah it certainly could have been edited just as a teaser, look at all the different versions of scenes and dialogue from the trailers so far. It could be even better in finished form, not saying this clip wasn't amazing already. I'll definitely say that this clip is the definition of a teaser :wow:

Bond
06-16-2008, 09:46 PM
Jesus what do you poeple want him to sound like a monster or what? His voice is perfect, anymore dark and it gets silly, his face got burned he didnt get mutated into a hellboy villain for christs sakes.

And had the cop looked anymore shocked it would teeter on the edge of corny for me, this clip IMHO was a perfect balance of acting/suspense/cinematography.

It felt like godfather but a Batman movie. AWESOME!
Did I say that I wanted his voice like a monster? I think he sounds great. :huh:

Beanjuice
06-16-2008, 09:48 PM
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8/headexplodeds1.gif

-TNC



my thoughts exactly

Poland626
06-16-2008, 09:48 PM
The TV says

"National Councilmen working with GCPD (Gotham City Police Department) to investigate Joker's threat to bridges and tunnels"

So 2 Face must be seen more than half way through I guess

the_tortel
06-16-2008, 09:49 PM
wow that's pretty great right there, surprised the drink didn't leak through the gape in his cheek though

LiveWire777
06-16-2008, 09:49 PM
Oh man!! >_< u can like see the tendants in his cheek thats so awesome!

riskproductions
06-16-2008, 09:50 PM
Who is the old guy? Bartender says "shouldnt you be out there?" like he's a cop. He also must be a friend of Harv's. Does anyone know?

BaleISBatman4ev
06-16-2008, 09:51 PM
Did I say that I wanted his voice like a monster? I think he sounds great. :huh:

Sorry just some other people are complaining and dont seem to get that this is supposed to be REALISTIC not FANTASTICAL. If his voiced morphed into Beast it would be laughable but some of the kids on here might not get Nolan's vision yet even after Begins.

Scarecrows voice was allowed to be Maniacal and monster like because he makes people hallucinate. Two face just has a burned face.

Figs
06-16-2008, 09:51 PM
Who is the old guy? Bartender says "shouldnt you be out there?" like he's a cop. He also must be a friend of Harv's. Does anyone know?


He's most likely a cop.

The Riddler
06-16-2008, 09:52 PM
Who is the old guy? Bartender says "shouldnt you be out there?" like he's a cop. He also must be a friend of Harv's. Does anyone know?

he seems like a crooked cop or something.

JaD
06-16-2008, 09:53 PM
He's most likely a cop.
A corrupt cop as well, who Dent plans on flipping the coin to probably

Bat-Mite
06-16-2008, 09:53 PM
I thought I was the only one. If someone can make a series of screencaps of Two-Face's err.....face, that'd be helpful. I could have sworn I saw flesh on his jaw, which indicated they've taken the design from the toy. I truly hope not, because I found the leaked concept art to be much more appealing.I thought that was the case as well when I first watched it, but upon several more viewings, I'm almost certain that that's the muscle tissue that we've seen from the leaked concept art.

riskproductions
06-16-2008, 09:54 PM
dangit I really wish they would have cut to black and then you hear "half". (note to self, quit complaining about pure awesomeness!)

SonikDeath
06-16-2008, 09:55 PM
That was awesome.

Numez
06-16-2008, 09:55 PM
Yet another nail in this movie's coffin.

Figs
06-16-2008, 09:56 PM
Sorry just some other people are complaining and dont seem to get that this is supposed to be REALISTIC not FANTASTICAL. If his voiced morphed into Beast it would be laughable but some of the kids on here might not get Nolan's vision yet even after Begins.

Scarecrows voice was allowed to be Maniacal and monster like because he makes people hallucinate. Two face just has a burned face.


I'm getting tired of the people talking **** about the few of us who happen to have some very small criticisms.

All you guys can do is exaggerate with **** like "you want his voice to morph into Beasts" and "these idiots want him to sound like a monster".:whatever:

All a few of us wanted was it to be slightly raspy...nothing over the top just a little raspy. For those who are saying it is raspy...get your ears checked, it's not.

The Joker
06-16-2008, 09:56 PM
Yet another nail in this movie's coffin.

Why?

riskproductions
06-16-2008, 09:56 PM
must...quit....watching.....*watches again*

Compi716
06-16-2008, 09:57 PM
I thought the clip was GREAT! Two-Face's look, his voice...AWESOME!

The one thing I'm not 100% sold on is Two-Face's first line of dialogue. It just sounded...off to me.

youngavenger26
06-16-2008, 09:57 PM
Does anybody remember a rumor where Nolan was supposed to film Eckhart twice. Once as Dent and again as Two-Face and then he was supposed to splice them together or something? When I heard it I got the impression that as Dent was talking, Harvey's face would react on its own and vice versa.

Numez
06-16-2008, 09:58 PM
Why?

The scene is horribly filmed. There's no tension. The music is awful and generic. Eckhart's delivery of hello is terrible.

DiFabio
06-16-2008, 09:59 PM
I just love assumptions.

That could very well be Harvey answering in his "Dent" voice, instead of Two-Face speaking in his "Two-Face" voice (the cop asks and only know Harvey, not Two-Face) So his "other" voice might still be unknown to us viewers. He's insane and has a split personality, what would be so "unrealistic" about him having a different voice for his other personality, Two-Face?

Forget Two-Face in that scene, i'm curious about that cop. I'm willing to bet that that's one of Maroni's payed off cops, and that Harvey Dent/Two-Face is there for some revenge. Maybe the cop saw whatever happened to Dent. The way the scene is set up, with Two-Face going over behind the counter and then drinking the cops drink just gives me the idea that Dent is there for some payback.

Conebone69
06-16-2008, 10:00 PM
That scene didnt feel anything like a batman movie but I still loved it. I also liked the line "you want someone to shake it for ya too?"

deathfromabove
06-16-2008, 10:00 PM
agreed^^^

Numez
06-16-2008, 10:00 PM
I just love assumptions.

That could very well just be Harvey answering, instead of Two-Face. So his "other" voice might still be unknown to us viewers. He's insane and has a personality problem, what would be so "unrealistic" about him having a different voice for his other personality, Two-Face?

It doesn't sound like Harvey at all.

the_tortel
06-16-2008, 10:01 PM
Why?

So.
Serious.

honestly

JaD
06-16-2008, 10:01 PM
must...quit....watching.....*watches again*
We're all on the same boat too, don't worry :cwink: *replays* :wow:
Does anybody remember a rumor where Nolan was supposed to film Eckhart twice. Once as Dent and again as Two-Face and then he was supposed to splice them together or something? When I heard it I got the impression that as Dent was talking, Harvey's face would react on its own and vice versa.
I never heard of that "rumor" :huh:

But I always felt the left side of his face would have a life of it's own in a sense. I think it'll look more amazing than gruesome to some. :up:

BaleISBatman4ev
06-16-2008, 10:01 PM
Yet another nail in this movie's coffin.
This clip owned anything ive seen from ANY movie this year let alone any comic movie ever made. The only nail in any coffin is for any disillusioned fanboys who think any other iterations of Batman , or any superhero for that matter, touch these movies!

deathfromabove
06-16-2008, 10:01 PM
The scene is horribly filmed. There's no tension. The music is awful and generic. Eckhart's delivery of hello is terrible.

:whatever:

Poland626
06-16-2008, 10:02 PM
By MYHERO in the url does this hint that Dent gets the joker out of Jail? If someone said this already, I didn't know

SonikDeath
06-16-2008, 10:02 PM
The scene is horribly filmed. There's no tension. The music is awful and generic. Eckhart's delivery of hello is terrible.

I liked it, it thought it was good.

TheBatman072
06-16-2008, 10:02 PM
Does anybody remember a rumor where Nolan was supposed to film Eckhart twice. Once as Dent and again as Two-Face and then he was supposed to splice them together or something? When I heard it I got the impression that as Dent was talking, Harvey's face would react on its own and vice versa.


Think Gollum from LOTR arguing with himself. Making it seem like two people were talking.

Conebone69
06-16-2008, 10:02 PM
I thought that was the case as well when I first watched it, but upon several more viewings, I'm almost certain that that's the muscle tissue that we've seen from the leaked concept art.
If its seriously that gruesome, then the rating diffenetly would of mentioned "disturbing images." I think it'll look like the action figure, I hope

The Joker
06-16-2008, 10:03 PM
The scene is horribly filmed. There's no tension. The music is awful and generic. Eckhart's delivery of hello is terrible.

Tension? The bit with Two Face is like 6 seconds long. I imagine the tension will build as the scene continues.

I liked the music. I am disappointed with Two Face's voice, though. I hope it gets a bit raspier/grittier.

Asteroid-Man
06-16-2008, 10:03 PM
An incredible clip! Just enough to get me back into this movie!!!

Schlosser85
06-16-2008, 10:03 PM
The scene is horribly filmed. There's no tension. The music is awful and generic. Eckhart's delivery of hello is terrible.

Oh, give me a freakin break, the clip is like 30 seconds long. If that's "yet another nail in the movie's coffin", I'm afraid to ask what you think are the rest of the nails. The fact that the falafel guy isn't back? That Alfred doesn't have a moustache?

Numez
06-16-2008, 10:03 PM
This movie hasn't done a single thing that is good.

Schlosser85
06-16-2008, 10:04 PM
Care to explain a little?

Figs
06-16-2008, 10:04 PM
This clip owned anything ive seen from ANY movie this year let alone any comic movie ever made. The only nail in any coffin is for any disillusioned fanboys who think any other iterations of Batman , or any superhero for that matter, touch these movies!


While I don't agree with Numez at all with his comments about the scene I have to admit what you posted was godawful.

I'm actually looking forward for the film to come out not just to see it but hopefully a lot of the biased ignorant fanboys will be gone from here shortly after.

Seriously!?!? This tiny clip owned ALL movies out this year as well as all comic films??:whatever:

Symbiotic
06-16-2008, 10:05 PM
This movie hasn't done a single thing that is good.:dry:

Yurka
06-16-2008, 10:05 PM
This movie hasn't done a single thing that is good.

Quiet troll, take your nay-saying out of here.

youngavenger26
06-16-2008, 10:07 PM
Think Gollum from LOTR arguing with himself. Making it seem like two people were talking.

I heard that too but that seems unoriginal.

8Diagrams(WU)
06-16-2008, 10:07 PM
Awesome clip. That guy looks really scared. Man this movie is going to be intense

Figs
06-16-2008, 10:08 PM
Numez.

Seriously, there's criticism and then there's trolling.

Yeah...not one thing, not even something tiny was done right in this film according to you?

Conebone69
06-16-2008, 10:08 PM
Yet another nail in this movie's coffin.
Yet another idiot that isnt satisfied with anything

JaD
06-16-2008, 10:08 PM
Quiet troll, take your nay-saying out of here.
That's what I say :cwink::up:

Beanjuice
06-16-2008, 10:08 PM
This movie hasn't done a single thing that is good.

:huh: please die in a fire

youngavenger26
06-16-2008, 10:08 PM
I'm angry I didn't know a viral was going on!!!

TheBatman072
06-16-2008, 10:09 PM
I heard that too but that seems unoriginal.


I'm...sorry?

DiFabio
06-16-2008, 10:09 PM
Forget Two-Face in that scene, i'm curious about that cop. I'm willing to bet that that's a cop Maroni's payed off, and that Harvey Dent/Two-Face is there for some revenge. Maybe the cop witnessed what happened to Dent. The way the scene is set up, with Two-Face going behind the counter and then drinking the cop's drink just gives me the idea that Dent is there for some payback.

Yurka
06-16-2008, 10:10 PM
Im sure im not the first to say this but his left hand is unscarred, the toys left hand was scarred, possibly uncompleted CGI?

kyuubijavi1
06-16-2008, 10:10 PM
Forget Two-Face in that scene, i'm curious about that cop. I'm willing to bet that that's a cop Maroni's payed off, and that Harvey Dent/Two-Face is there for some revenge. Maybe the cop saw witnessed what happened to Dent. The way the scene is set up, with Two-Face going behind the counter and then drinking the cop's drink just gives me the idea that Dent is there for some payback.

Yup i got a feeling that cop's Two Face's first Victom

Figs
06-16-2008, 10:10 PM
Im sure im not the first to say this but his left hand is unscarred, the toys left hand was scarred, possibly uncompleted CGI?


Possibly.

That or for the figure they wanted to make him look a bit more messed up than just his face.

deathfromabove
06-16-2008, 10:11 PM
Quiet troll, take your nay-saying out of here.

Numez.

Seriously, there's criticism and then there's trolling.

Yeah...not one thing, not even something tiny was done right in this film according to you?

Yet another idiot that isnt satisfied with anything

:huh: please die in a fire

:hehe:

i concur.

the *****ing is just getting really juvenille.

Joker8906
06-16-2008, 10:11 PM
well given the cops face, and the dialouge I'd say ur theory is well supported.

The Joker
06-16-2008, 10:11 PM
Forget Two-Face in that scene, i'm curious about that cop. I'm willing to bet that that's a cop Maroni's payed off, and that Harvey Dent/Two-Face is there for some revenge. Maybe the cop saw witnessed what happened to Dent. The way the scene is set up, with Two-Face going behind the counter and then drinking the cop's drink just gives me the idea that Dent is there for some payback.

Definitely. Why else would Harvey go to that particular bar and accost that guy?

Also, he seems very indifferent to the fact that Gotham is facing a major crisis at the hands of Joker. The bartender shows more concern lol.

youngavenger26
06-16-2008, 10:12 PM
I'm...sorry?

I was on another message board and people were speculating how they were going to film Dent/Two-Face. Some people said they were doing it like Gollum but that sounded unoriginal to me, and then I heard the rumor that Nolan was splicing two different takes together so I got the vision of Dent talking for example and then his eye on his left side rolling like as if he couldn't believe what was coming out of his own mouth.

Yurka
06-16-2008, 10:12 PM
Forget Two-Face in that scene, i'm curious about that cop. I'm willing to bet that that's a cop Maroni's payed off, and that Harvey Dent/Two-Face is there for some revenge. Maybe the cop saw witnessed what happened to Dent. The way the scene is set up, with Two-Face going behind the counter and then drinking the cop's drink just gives me the idea that Dent is there for some payback.
Hes most definately a cop, "Shouldnt you be out there? doing something?"
Along with the set report a few months back, confirm this

Conebone69
06-16-2008, 10:12 PM
Im sure im not the first to say this but his left hand is unscarred, the toys left hand was scarred, possibly uncompleted CGI?
I noticed that too. I dont think his hand will be burnt, even though that would be tight

Poland626
06-16-2008, 10:12 PM
Can someone PLEASE tell me if they have this same opinion?

After the guy leaves for the bathroom there is a part where he see's Harvey and Harvey kills him. Right after that we cut to that guy who said something about wiping. I am only saying this because it seems like right when he went to the bathroom there is something missing between those shots

Loneranger
06-16-2008, 10:14 PM
I just hate the 'Hello!" delivery. He sounds like the Joker there. I was worried most about Eckhart's two-face; I know he can play the charming Dent, but I just don't know if he can pull two-face off. And I can't believe they're using CGI for his face; very dissapointing.

Movie looks awesome though. Love the way the scene is shot. Just not the delivery and cgi face.

Spidey-Sean
06-16-2008, 10:14 PM
here's my unnecessary breakdown:
+
1) yay! national guard reminds me of how much trouble Joker is going to cause
2) cinematography/lighting is great! Feels like something out of a drama where men dressed as Bats wouldn't appear; adds another layer of respectability to the film. I love the quality here.
3)They didn't show Two-Face's 2 faces. Good, we don't need that spoiled yet.
4)Dirty Cops who don't care about Gotham; "Eh, this is my day off" - good stuff
5) Dent seeking revenge here?
6) The bartender's waltzing back and forth made him look like he actually had to go to the bathroom - attention to detail is nice to see.
-
1)I think the cop should have looked a little more freaked out when a guy with half of his face appears out of nowhere, even if he does recognize him
2)Isn't this cop the same guy that said "the whole place is gonna blow!" about 500 times in Begins?

I'm waiting for more 2 face line delivery before I begin to criticize it here.

TheBatman072
06-16-2008, 10:14 PM
I was on another message board and people were speculating how they were going to film Dent/Two-Face. Some people said they were doing it like Gollum but that sounded unoriginal to me, and then I heard the rumor that Nolan was splicing two different takes together so I got the vision of Dent talking for example and then his eye on his left side rolling like as if he couldn't believe what was coming out of his own mouth.


That would look incredibly silly.

Loneranger
06-16-2008, 10:15 PM
Can someone PLEASE tell me if they have this same opinion?

After the guy leaves for the bathroom there is a part where he see's Harvey and Harvey kills him. Right after that we cut to that guy who said something about wiping. I am only saying this because it seems like right when he went to the bathroom there is something missing between those shots
Most definitely this scene is condensced. It is cut short.

Schlosser85
06-16-2008, 10:15 PM
Well we had a side containing the dialogue between the cop and the bartender immediately before Two-Face's entrance, in the side the cop is "Detective Wuertz". We also had a set report from way back when about Two-Face killing a crooked cop in a bar, so I'm betting he's about to toss his coin. The coin spinning on the table in the comcast clip is probably from a few moments after he says "half".

TheBatman072
06-16-2008, 10:16 PM
And I can't believe they're using CGI for his face; very dissapointing.


It's mostly make-up and prosthetics. With CG touch-ups.

Yurka
06-16-2008, 10:17 PM
I just hate the 'Hello!" delivery. He sounds like the Joker there. I was worried most about Eckhart's two-face; I know he can play the charming Dent, but I just don't know if he can pull two-face off. And I can't believe they're using CGI for his face; very dissapointing.

Movie looks awesome though. Love the way the scene is shot. Just not the delivery and cgi face.

We have heard 2 words from two-face and have seen a over the shoulder shot revealing almost nothing.
I will withhold my judgement until I see just a little bit more. :o

youngavenger26
06-16-2008, 10:17 PM
That would look incredibly silly.

I just wanted something different than the cliche'd Gollum thing.

Spidey-Sean
06-16-2008, 10:18 PM
Anyone else worried how the coin toss is going to be pulled off uniquely after "No Country For Old Men" used it so effectively in a similar manner?

rashad
06-16-2008, 10:18 PM
Awesome clip. Absolutely love the score in that scene. The cinematography was amazing as well.

TheBatman072
06-16-2008, 10:18 PM
I just wanted something different than the cliche'd Gollum thing.


I've only seen it used once. And that was with Gollum.


Can you name any other instances where it's been used in a serious manner?

youngavenger26
06-16-2008, 10:19 PM
Anyone else worried how the coin toss is going to be pulled off uniquely after "No Country For Old Men" used it so effectively in a similar manner?

It's not like nobody else has ever flipped coins in movies before No Country for Old Men. It'll be fine. I remember the first time I saw the trailer for that movie, the first thing I thought of was Two-Face.

BaleISBatman4ev
06-16-2008, 10:19 PM
While I don't agree with Numez at all with his comments about the scene I have to admit what you posted was godawful.

I'm actually looking forward for the film to come out not just to see it but hopefully a lot of the biased ignorant fanboys will be gone from here shortly after.

Seriously!?!? This tiny clip owned ALL movies out this year as well as all comic films??:whatever:

LOL look i might have gone over board but in all seriousness. This clip felt like Godfather, it felt like a legit film of oscar caliber that a motivated and serious team of filmmakers put together.

Look at the lighting and set design, first class. The acting, excellent and real and not tongue in cheek like most comic movies. When harvey steps into frame and the guy is cocky saying his line then we track over to the left to change axis and the guy's face turns to pure shock/fear and the subtly yet intenseness of two face's delivery and movement.

I'm a filmmaker so i pick up on all the nuanced subtleties others might not care about and im glad a Batman movie coming out from a director who dares to make an actual film that can be taken seriously and not insult anyone's intelligence.

TheBatman072
06-16-2008, 10:19 PM
Anyone else worried how the coin toss is going to be pulled off uniquely after "No Country For Old Men" used it so effectively in a similar manner?


That was No Country for Old Men. This is The Dark Knight.


/end.

JayTee
06-16-2008, 10:20 PM
Anyone else worried how the coin toss is going to be pulled off uniquely after "No Country For Old Men" used it so effectively in a similar manner?

Soooo, noone in America saw Batman Forever eh?

RickO'Connell
06-16-2008, 10:20 PM
I was hoping we would see his full face :(

deathfromabove
06-16-2008, 10:20 PM
Anyone else worried how the coin toss is going to be pulled off uniquely after "No Country For Old Men" used it so effectively in a similar manner?

am i the only one that felt anton chigur was like a ripoff of the joker and two face anyway?

:oldrazz:

im sure it will work just fine.

the_tortel
06-16-2008, 10:21 PM
Soooo, noone in America saw Batman Forever eh?

haha

DiFabio
06-16-2008, 10:21 PM
I just love assumptions.

That could very well be Harvey answering in his "Dent" voice, instead of Two-Face speaking in his "Two-Face" voice (the cop asks and only know Harvey, not Two-Face) So his "other" voice might still be unknown to us viewers. He's insane and has a split personality, what would be so "unrealistic" about him having a different voice for his other personality, Two-Face?

youngavenger26
06-16-2008, 10:22 PM
I've only seen it used once. And that was with Gollum.


Can you name any other instances where it's been used in a serious manner?

No, not off the top of my head.

TheBatman072
06-16-2008, 10:22 PM
Soooo, noone in America saw Batman Forever eh?


I sure as hell hope it's handled better than that.



Two-Face flipping the coin over and over again until getting the desired side?


**** you, Joel. **** you.

Beanjuice
06-16-2008, 10:22 PM
And I can't believe they're using CGI for his face; very dissapointing.




:huh: im sorry, perhaps in the next one thy will just melt eckharts face off

Spidey-Sean
06-16-2008, 10:23 PM
It's not like nobody else has ever flipped coins in movies before No Country for Old Men. It'll be fine. I remember the first time I saw the trailer for that movie, the first thing I thought of was Two-Face.

That's my point though. I imagine a lot of non-Batman people will be thinking about No Country and see it as a ripoff. I mean, it's not like Dent is flipping coins just for fun here.

Yurka
06-16-2008, 10:23 PM
I just love assumptions.

That could very well be Harvey answering in his "Dent" voice, instead of Two-Face speaking in his "Two-Face" voice (the cop asks and only know Harvey, not Two-Face) So his "other" voice might still be unknown to us viewers. He's insane and has a split personality, what would be so "unrealistic" about him having a different voice for his other personality, Two-Face?

The voice we heard was most definately the two-face voice.

Secret_Riddle
06-16-2008, 10:23 PM
That scene didnt feel anything like a batman movie but I still loved it. I also liked the line "you want someone to shake it for ya too?"

I donno, from the brown lighting to the quippy writing..it felt like something out of Batman Begins to me..kinda reminiscent of Falcone's bar.

TheBatman072
06-16-2008, 10:23 PM
No, not off the top of my head.


Then it's not cliche is it?


Also, from what I can remember, Gollum only really did it once.

scubasteve2
06-16-2008, 10:23 PM
That's the cop who supplied Maroni with acid to scar Two Face.

Saint
06-16-2008, 10:24 PM
Badass.

Conebone69
06-16-2008, 10:26 PM
here's my unnecessary breakdown:
+
1) yay! national guard reminds me of how much trouble Joker is going to cause
2) cinematography/lighting is great! Feels like something out of a drama where men dressed as Bats wouldn't appear; adds another layer of respectability to the film. I love the quality here.
3)They didn't show Two-Face's 2 faces. Good, we don't need that spoiled yet.
4)Dirty Cops who don't care about Gotham; "Eh, this is my day off" - good stuff
5) Dent seeking revenge here?
6) The bartender's waltzing back and forth made him look like he actually had to go to the bathroom - attention to detail is nice to see.
-
1)I think the cop should have looked a little more freaked out when a guy with half of his face appears out of nowhere, even if he does recognize him
2)Isn't this cop the same guy that said "the whole place is gonna blow!" about 500 times in Begins?

I'm waiting for more 2 face line delivery before I begin to criticize it here.
I agree, but I dont think that cop is the same guy from BB. He has a different voice.

the_monk
06-16-2008, 10:27 PM
AAAARGH!!! I hate this annoying banner ad with the chime noise!!!!

youngavenger26
06-16-2008, 10:27 PM
Then it's not cliche is it?


Also, from what I can remember, Gollum only really did it once.

I just felt like Nolan wants to push the boundaries and do things differently, and like I said it was just a rumor and that was the impression I got.

Yurka
06-16-2008, 10:29 PM
Damn, I just thought of the manip recreation of this scene and how damn accurate it was, the user who did it deserves a big ass hug.

DSET
06-16-2008, 10:29 PM
Im loving 2faces from what little we hear of it

I think he said half a little too quickly tho
maybe because hes just about to kill him
also the music seemed kinda not right imo I dont know why

but other than that I think that also points an argument against the poetic dialogue issue I thought the dialogue in this was alot more normalized than in BB. Which is a very good thing

Conebone69
06-16-2008, 10:29 PM
I donno, from the brown lighting to the quippy writing..it felt like something out of Batman Begins to me..kinda reminiscent of Falcone's bar.
The cinematography is alot different, I think

TheBatman072
06-16-2008, 10:30 PM
Im loving 2faces from what little we hear of it

I think he said half a little too quickly tho
maybe because hes just about to kill him
also the music seemed kinda not right imo I dont know why

but other than that I think that also points an argument against the poetic dialogue issue I thought the dialogue in this was alot more normalized than in BB. Which is a very good thing


Don't worry about it. From what I hear, the scene's condensed. Shortened.


Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if it was only HALF as long as the normal scene.

DSET
06-16-2008, 10:33 PM
The cinematography is alot different, I think

it is very different VERY
I study cinematography and the shots \lighting in the trailers for this movie look outstanding

Yurka
06-16-2008, 10:33 PM
Is there any factual evidence that this scene is shortened?
I think it works great, the timing is perfect IMO.

ChrisB
06-16-2008, 10:33 PM
That guys a terrible actor! He sees this... leakedtwoface.jpg ...and just calmly says "Dent, I thought you was dead?"
???

Terrible delivery!

DSET
06-16-2008, 10:33 PM
Don't worry about it. From what I hear, the scene's condensed. Shortened.


Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if it was only HALF as long as the normal scene.
awesome I had no clue
thats damn good to know

Figs
06-16-2008, 10:34 PM
LOL look i might have gone over board but in all seriousness.


Ok, at least you realized that lol.

I do like the scene a lot, I wasn't trashing it. I just thought that your statement was as you put it a bit over board.:cwink:

DSET
06-16-2008, 10:35 PM
That guys a terrible actor! He sees this... leakedtwoface.jpg ...and just calmly says "Dent, I thought you was dead?"
???

Terrible delivery!

I disagree he gets shooken up in the scene his facial exression along with his body languange changes
also his voice tone changes I have no CLUe how you derrived your opinion
but to each his own

TheBatman072
06-16-2008, 10:35 PM
Is there any factual evidence that this scene is shortened?
I think it works great, the timing is perfect IMO.


Other than the people who saw the original clip at one of the big comic cons and said it was, no. None.

Die Laughing
06-16-2008, 10:35 PM
also the music seemed kinda not right imo I dont know why

The instrumentation reminds me of a big dissonant chord held on the organ. Gave me an old horror movie vibe to the introduction of Two Face. I liked it.

Might just be the strings, but it does actually sound like an organ is sustaining at 0:20.

:hoboj: - Ahahahaha!

Figs
06-16-2008, 10:36 PM
That's the cop who supplied Maroni with acid to scar Two Face.


How are you so sure?

That definitely would give him enough reason to find him and hopefully kill him though.

Beanjuice
06-16-2008, 10:36 PM
Im loving 2faces from what little we hear of it

I think he said half a little too quickly tho
maybe because hes just about to kill him
also the music seemed kinda not right imo I dont know why

but other than that I think that also points an argument against the poetic dialogue issue I thought the dialogue in this was alot more normalized than in BB. Which is a very good thing


:huh: :hehe: i lol'd so hard

TheBatman072
06-16-2008, 10:37 PM
That guys a terrible actor! He sees this... leakedtwoface.jpg ...and just calmly says "Dent, I thought you was dead?"
???

Terrible delivery!


Okay, here's the attention you seem to desperately need since you've posted this EXACT same thing in two different threads.


Feel better? Done now?

Conebone69
06-16-2008, 10:37 PM
it is very different VERY
I study cinematography and the shots \lighting in the trailers for this movie look outstanding
Yeah I like it too

kristin
06-16-2008, 10:37 PM
Holy ****.

I just finished my dinner, logged on here, and saw the new clip.

I'm dead, loves. That was amazing (for how short it was). I thought the cinematography, music, his voice- everything was great.

Work it, Harv.

ChrisB
06-16-2008, 10:39 PM
Heres the clip in WMV-HD
http://www.mediafire.com/?gmhst1ghbmj

David Rice
06-16-2008, 10:39 PM
That guys a terrible actor! He sees this... leakedtwoface.jpg ...and just calmly says "Dent, I thought you was dead?"
???

Terrible delivery!

Nah, you're wrong dude. The acting fine.

DSET
06-16-2008, 10:40 PM
:huh: :hehe: i lol'd so hard
lol
its 2face's
2face (is)
non plural

David Rice
06-16-2008, 10:41 PM
it is very different VERY
I study cinematography and the shots \lighting in the trailers for this movie look outstanding

You best believe it fool! :woot:

Yurka
06-16-2008, 10:41 PM
Other than the people who saw the original clip at one of the big comic cons and said it was, no. None.
I remember reading the reviews, didnt they say he was sitting at the end of the bar spinning his coin? I just feel this works so much better, he just
nonchalantly walks in

DiFabio
06-16-2008, 10:41 PM
I just love assumptions.
That could very well be Harvey answering in his "Dent" voice, instead of Two-Face speaking in his "Two-Face" voice (the cop asks and only know Harvey, not Two-Face) So his "other" voice might still be unknown to us viewers. He's insane and has a split personality, what would be so "unrealistic" about him having a different voice for his other personality, Two-Face?
The voice we heard was most definately the two-face voice.

How do you know? How do any of us know? We have no idea how this scene or the film for that matter is going to play out.

TheBatman072
06-16-2008, 10:42 PM
I remember reading the reviews, didnt they say he was sitting at the end of the bar spinning his coin? I just feel this works so much better, he just
nonchalantly walks in


I don't recall the sitting and spinning coin part.

Conebone69
06-16-2008, 10:42 PM
I remember reading the reviews, didnt they say he was sitting at the end of the bar spinning his coin? I just feel this works so much better, he just
nonchalantly walks in
Yeah I agree

scubasteve2
06-16-2008, 10:43 PM
How are you so sure?

That definitely would give him enough reason to find him and hopefully kill him though.

From several months back -

· Wayne Manor is being rebuilt; Bruce Wayne and Alfred are staying in a penthouse suite. Underneath the suite there is a garage where Batman keeps the tumbler, his suit and equipment and a computer terminal.
· Joker is the main villain. One of his first scenes in the movie is a bank robbery where he and his goons wear clown masks. The Bank Manager (played by William Fichtner) tries to stop the thugs, but is stopped by the Joker, who also kills his goons during the robbery as well. He escapes on a carjacked school bus.
· Harvey Dent (Aaron Eckhart) is the new District Attorney. He is possibly dating Rachel Dawes.
· Bruce Wayne is up to his playboy millionaire antics. At one point he throws a party on his private yacht for the cast of an Opera, closing the show for the night.
· Sal Maroni (Eric Roberts) is the new head of the Falcone family. There are gang wars ensuing the streets of Gotham City including Maroni’s gang, and a gang lead by a man named Gambol (Michael Jai White).
· There are Vigilantes, disguising themselves as Batman, patrolling the streets of Gotham. They attempt to break up a confrontation between a Chechen gang and Scarecrow early on in the movie. The Chechens release attack dogs on the Vigilantes, who must be rescued by the Batman.
· Dent wants to end the gang wars in Gotham and put an end to organized crime. To mount a case against Maroni he needs to bring an extradited accountant from Hong Kong named Lau (Chin Han), who has connections with Maroni to Gotham. Batman travels to Hong Kong (as Bruce Wayne) with Lucius Fox in order to bring Lau to Gotham.
· The Joker is somehow approached by the mobs entreating him to cause chaos in Gotham, distracting the cops and Dent from their warfare.
· The Joker does indeed cause chaos in Gotham City. He (in no particular order) kills cops, blows up a hospital (while disguised as a female nurse), and commits other actions causing a general state of fear in the city.
The Joker dies his hair green and wears white make up over his face, never taking it off, causing it to "rot" permenantly onto his face over time.
· At some point, Harvey Dent announces that he is Batman at a press conference.
· Bruce Wayne throws a party for Harvey Dent at his penthouse suite. The Joker and his goons crash it, trying to kill Dent. Batman intervenes, but the Joker ends up kidnapping Rachel, dancing with her at knife point.
· Reese (Joshua Harto), a disgruntled Wayne Enterprises employee, breaks into the applied sciences sector of Wayne Enterprises and somehow discovers Batman’s true identity. He gives this information to a reporter/radio/talk show host named Mike Engel (Anthony Michael Hall), who announces he will reveal the identity on his evening program. Not to be out of the limelight, Joker makes a bomb threat to the TV station, causing the program to be cancelled. Lucius Fox somehow blackmails Reese into not revealing the identity to anyone else.
· Tired of all the vigilantes running around Gotham, and wanting to find the real Batman, Joker kidnaps their leader, a man named Brian Douglas, and hangs him from a flag pole outside the mayor’s office with a Joker card pinned into his chest with a knife. On the card it reads, “Will the real Batman please stand up.” Harvey Dent is making a proclamation of a crime-free 18 months in Gotham to Mayor Anthony Garcia (Nester Carbonell) when the wind blows the dead body into his window.
· Batman/Bruce Wayne is struggling with falling into his persona, and juggling both the life of Batman and Bruce Wayne. He is also seen doing more detective work this time around. He also gets a new suit sometime in the movie.
· Lt. Gordon (Gary Oldman) fakes his own death. His wife, Barbara (Melinda McGraw) is notified about his “death” by Detective Stephens (Keith Szarabajka).
· Joker kills Commissioner Loeb (Colin MacFarlane) and a female judge. At their funeral, the Joker (disguised as a cop) makes an assassination attempt on the mayor.
· At some point, (possibly after the assassination attempt) the Joker and some of his goons are arrested. Batman interrogates the Joker, and ends up beating the snot out of him. The Joker escapes by the use of a bomb planted in the stomach of one of his goons.
· Detective Stephens and Detective Ramirez (Monique Curnen) are cops loyal to Harvey Dent.
· Officer Berg (Matt Shallenberger) tries to kill the Joker, after his wife is killed in the hospital explosion, but is stopped by Gordon.
· There is a chase scene involving the Bat mobile and the Joker in a semi-truck. Joker ends up destroying the Bat mobile/Tumbler, causing Batman to use his Bat-Cycle.
· Eventually Maroni and other gang leaders are rounded up and arrested by Batman, and SWAT squads led by Gordon. Maroni is in a night club with two mistresses (Sarah Jayne Dunn and Kerri Parker) when Batman breaks in and takes him.
· Maroni goes on trial, being prosecuted by Harvey Dent. During the trial, he throws acid (that was smuggled to him by a corrupt cop) in Dent’s face, permanently scarring him.
· The Joker causes so much chaos in Gotham, and makes a threat forcing all of Gotham to evacuate onto huge barges. The criminals and lower class citizens are on one barge, while the Gotham elite are on the other. Joker announces that there are bombs on both barges. The leaders of Gotham must choose to blow up one of the barges, or he will destroy both. This culminates to a showdown between Joker and Batman.
· Dent, now scarred, confronts Maroni. He flips his coin to determine whether to kill Maroni or not. The flip determines that Maroni will live for the time being, but his driver is not so lucky.
· Dent/Two-Face also makes an appearance at a bar, where he kills the cop who supplied Maroni with the acid.

So, basically, Joker makes a public decree that unless Batman reveals himself to the world, he'll start killing the people on his list (Gordon, Dawes, A-List of Gotham City). After this plan is foiled he begins a campaign to destroy Gotham City...by blowing it up. The Gotham island is evacuated onto two barges...but uh-oh...surprise surprise each barge has a bomb on it and unless one is destroyed the Joker will detonate both...

Crook
06-16-2008, 10:44 PM
That guys a terrible actor! He sees this... leakedtwoface.jpg ...and just calmly says "Dent, I thought you was dead?"
???

Terrible delivery!
I'd have to agree, if it was his first time seeing Dent since his "normal" state.

But if the theory that the guy is a crooked cop and knew or had something to do with Harv's scarring, then his reaction fits in that context.

DSET
06-16-2008, 10:44 PM
You best believe it fool! :woot:

Forget seeing the movie Thats not that far away

I Cant wait to own this shizznit on Blu Ray
I CAINt wAit!:hyper::hyper:

The more I think like this the better then it will shorten the feel of the wait to see the movie:hehe:

Yurka
06-16-2008, 10:45 PM
How do you know? How do any of us know? We have no idea how this scene or the film for that matter is going to play out.

Dude, listen to his damn voice, thats not Aaron Eckharts normal voice

I don't recall the sitting and spinning coin part.

There were definate reviews of him spinning a coin on the bar from the con footage, which is probably the same coin spinning from the imax featurette. I dont know if thats part of the "extended" scene your talking about or not.

Yurka
06-16-2008, 10:46 PM
Forget seeing the movie Thats not that far away

I Cant wait to own this shizznit on Blu Ray
I CAINt wAit!:hyper::hyper:

The more I think like this the better then it will shorten the feel of the wait to see the movie:hehe:

I thought the same thing right after I watched this clip
:hoboj:

Numez
06-16-2008, 10:47 PM
I was just kidding about the hating part. You guys should know me by now.

TheBatman072
06-16-2008, 10:48 PM
Dude, listen to his damn voice, thats not Aaron Eckharts normal voice



There were definate reviews of him spinning a coin on the bar from the con footage, which is probably the same coin spinning from the imax featurette. I dont know if thats part of the "extended" scene your talking about or not.


No, I know the spinning coin bit is true, but I highly doubt that someone who looks like Dent(good AND bad side) could be just sitting at a bar and nobody notice beforehand. Especially if that's the cop who supplied Maroni(or Rossi) with the acid that scarred Dent.

batman11
06-16-2008, 10:49 PM
There were definate reviews of him spinning a coin on the bar from the con footage, which is probably the same coin spinning from the imax featurette. I dont know if thats part of the "extended" scene your talking about or not.

Perhaps Two-Face then pulls a coin out in the bar and spins it on the countertop, slams it down, reveals tails, the guy looks up in horror, and we cut to our first FULL GLIMPSE of Two-Face holding a gun at the cop, and then...

BOOM!

DiFabio
06-16-2008, 10:49 PM
Dude, listen to his damn voice, thats not Aaron Eckharts normal voice.

I just listened to it again. I really don't hear the differecne in his voice between this scene and what we've heard in the trailers. Thats definately Eckharts "normal voice".

Maybe there isn't a difference between Two-Face or Harvey Dent, maybe there is. Maybe his voice changes with the personality at hand, maybe it doesn't.

WE DON'T KNOW!

David Rice
06-16-2008, 10:50 PM
Forget seeing the movie Thats not that far away

I Cant wait to own this shizznit on Blu Ray
I CAINt wAit!:hyper::hyper:

The more I think like this the better then it will shorten the feel of the wait to see the movie:hehe:

That makes two of us brother! This film is going to be so bad ass I think I better bring an extra change of underwear the the theater! :woot:

bkey
06-16-2008, 10:50 PM
From several months back -

That's from the "What We Know So Far" thread, which I compiled. You are right, that is from several months back. I added that because of some rumors at the time, but I have sense removed that piece of info because the rumor has never been backed up.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=289047

Yurka
06-16-2008, 10:52 PM
No, I know the spinning coin bit is true, but I highly doubt that someone who looks like Dent(good AND bad side) could be just sitting at a bar and nobody notice beforehand. Especially if that's the cop who supplied Maroni(or Rossi) with the acid that scarred Dent.
The person who gave the set report said he was wearing a hood, it might have been just to hide him but who knows. If he is just sitting there without anything covering him, then we might have to ignore it kinda like the way the Joker can be standing on a corner in a busy intersection and no one gives a second look

TheBatman072
06-16-2008, 10:54 PM
The person who gave the set report said he was wearing a hood, it might have been just to hide him but who knows. If he is just sitting there without anything covering him, then we might have to ignore it kinda like the way the Joker can be standing on a corner in a busy intersection and no one gives a second look


I actually don't mind the Joker bit. It's not that busy around where he's standing from what I can remember. Nobody's walking past him, and the people in the cars that are driving by are too busy with their own lives to notice him. I know I wouldn't notice him.

Probably early in the morning on a weekday. Which is why the bank wasn't busy.

Yurka
06-16-2008, 10:55 PM
Perhaps Two-Face then pulls a coin out in the bar and spins it on the countertop, slams it down, reveals tails, the guy looks up in horror, and we cut to our first FULL GLIMPSE of Two-Face holding a gun at the cop, and then...

BOOM!

That would be ****ing amazing, reminds me of Long Halloween

I just listened to it again. I really don't hear the differecne in his voice between this scene and what we've heard in the trailers. Thats definately Eckharts "normal voice".

Maybe there isn't a difference between Two-Face or Harvey Dent, maybe there is. Maybe his voice changes with the personality at hand, maybe it doesn't.

WE DON'T KNOW!

Look no one but you is arguing whether that was two-face's voice or not, you can tell its deeper and has more of a grumble to it than his normal voice.

EDIT typo

Loneranger
06-16-2008, 10:56 PM
I've been watching it over and over. It's beautifully constructed. And wonderfully underplayed by the corrupt cop; you can really feel his parylizing fear. I can tell this guy had something to do with Dent being killed or the attempt.

DiFabio
06-16-2008, 10:56 PM
you cant tell its deeper and has more of a grumble to it than his normal voice.

Thats what i've been saying?!?!

The Mighty Wind
06-16-2008, 10:56 PM
That guys a terrible actor! He sees this... leakedtwoface.jpg ...and just calmly says "Dent, I thought you was dead?"
???

Terrible delivery!
People who see amputees don't scream in horror.

Everyone who sees that sort of thing tries to act normal. The actor did a great job of having that look of shock, while still trying to maintain normalcy.

TheBatman072
06-16-2008, 10:57 PM
Oh, and regarding the Two-Face voice thing.


Remember, the cop addressed HARVEY. Why would Two-Face answer for Harvey? Just becuase the camera panned over to Two-Face's side doesn't mean Two-Face is talking.

Yurka
06-16-2008, 10:57 PM
I actually don't mind the Joker bit. It's not that busy around where he's standing from what I can remember. Nobody's walking past him, and the people in the cars that are driving by are too busy with their own lives to notice him. I know I wouldn't notice him.

Probably early in the morning on a weekday. Which is why the bank wasn't busy.

lol ok.


I know I would be thinking "Jesus, look at that freak, hes got clown makeup on" then all my friends would stare.:o

batman11
06-16-2008, 10:57 PM
That would be ****ing amazing, reminds me of Long Halloween

Yeah definitely!

ND Irish
06-16-2008, 10:57 PM
i did not like how his voice sounded there

youngavenger26
06-16-2008, 10:57 PM
Perhaps Two-Face then pulls a coin out in the bar and spins it on the countertop, slams it down, reveals tails, the guy looks up in horror, and we cut to our first FULL GLIMPSE of Two-Face holding a gun at the cop, and then...

BOOM!

I really like that! :yay:

David Rice
06-16-2008, 10:58 PM
Perhaps Two-Face then pulls a coin out in the bar and spins it on the countertop, slams it down, reveals tails, the guy looks up in horror, and we cut to our first FULL GLIMPSE of Two-Face holding a gun at the cop, and then...

BOOM!

That would rule!

I just listened to it again. I really don't hear the differecne in his voice between this scene and what we've heard in the trailers. Thats definately Eckharts "normal voice".

Maybe there isn't a difference between Two-Face or Harvey Dent, maybe there is. Maybe his voice changes with the personality at hand, maybe it doesn't.

WE DON'T KNOW!

His voice sounds differnet to me.

deathfromabove
06-16-2008, 10:58 PM
I've been watching it over and over. It's beautifully constructed. And wonderfully underplayed by the corrupt cop; you can really feel his parylizing fear. I can tell this guy had something to do with Dent being killed or the attempt.

:up:

David Rice
06-16-2008, 10:59 PM
Oh, and regarding the Two-Face voice thing.


Remember, the cop addressed HARVEY. Why would Two-Face answer for Harvey? Just becuase the camera panned over to Two-Face's side doesn't mean Two-Face is talking.

Good point.

Yurka
06-16-2008, 10:59 PM
Thats what i've been saying?!?!

Sorry typo,

You really cant tell a difference in his voice?

To me it was night and day.

DiFabio
06-16-2008, 11:00 PM
Oh, and regarding the Two-Face voice thing.


Remember, the cop addressed HARVEY. Why would Two-Face answer for Harvey? Just becuase the camera panned over to Two-Face's side doesn't mean Two-Face is talking.


Thats what i'm thinking. In my opinion it's Harvey in that scene not Two-Face.

TheBatman072
06-16-2008, 11:01 PM
Thats what i'm thinking. In my opinion it's Harvey in that scene not Two-Face.


Which is very smart on the part of Nolan's/the Viral's part. Give us a taste of Harvey AS Two-Face but don't give us Two-Face yet.


Genius.

Ecstasy
06-16-2008, 11:02 PM
That is definitely Eckhart's normal voice. And it suits the scene because it's just merely a tease. It's really just Dent in that scene.


Perhaps as the scene progresses, we hear more of Two-Face.

DiFabio
06-16-2008, 11:02 PM
You really cant tell a difference in his voice?

To me it was night and day.

Maybe a little in "Half", but other than that no, I don't hear a significant difference between this qoute or the "Dawn is Coming", "Told me so much about you", "No!" etc. Especially with his deliverance of "Hello".

batman11
06-16-2008, 11:03 PM
I really like that! :yay:

That would rule!

Hehe, glad you guys think it's cool. Sorta just thought of it off the top of my head and thought...damn, that'd be a freakin sweet scene and reveal for Two-Face.

LegendaryCaleb
06-16-2008, 11:03 PM
That Two Face clip owned.

Conebone69
06-16-2008, 11:05 PM
That really feels like a ending scene to me, but its probably not...

DSET
06-16-2008, 11:05 PM
Sorry typo,

You really cant tell a difference in his voice?

To me it was night and day.

agreed that was definately an alterd voice I wouldnt want anything overdone we dont need to be beat over the head with a different vocal tone

DSET
06-16-2008, 11:06 PM
That really feels like a ending scene to me, but its probably not...

i think it would be pretty cool if it was:brucebat:

actually I would love it if it was
less cluttering of stories =a much better film

Octoberist
06-16-2008, 11:07 PM
but the joker's threat is still on, so it can't be the last scene.

BubbaGump
06-16-2008, 11:07 PM
Freaky music...

DiFabio
06-16-2008, 11:07 PM
I wouldnt want anything overdone we dont need to be beat over the head with a different vocal tone

Why not? They are essentially two different people. One good the other evil.

hame4479
06-16-2008, 11:07 PM
Man you can tell that he gets burned as opposed to being splashed with acid with all that blackened and charred skin.

youngavenger26
06-16-2008, 11:08 PM
That really feels like a ending scene to me, but its probably not...

I thought Oldman or Eckhart let leak that they had an important scene together as Gordon and Two-Face/Dent.

bkey
06-16-2008, 11:08 PM
Don't worry about it. From what I hear, the scene's condensed. Shortened.


Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if it was only HALF as long as the normal scene.
Is there any factual evidence that this scene is shortened?
I think it works great, the timing is perfect IMO.

Actually, according to Rory Bat, who was at WW, the scene shown there was actually shorter than this. It only had the last part. "Dent? I thought you was dead?" "Half."

Your info is incorrect 072

LegendaryCaleb
06-16-2008, 11:09 PM
but the joker's threat is still on, so it can't be the last scene.
exactly. hmm.
btw the custom title has me cracking up...that kid couldnt spell worth crap

hame4479
06-16-2008, 11:09 PM
Why not? They are essentially two different people. One good the other evil.
yeah I was hoping for a more menacing low pitched voice.

DSET
06-16-2008, 11:09 PM
but the joker's threat is still on, so it can't be the last scene.

true say

well hopefully thats the last or second last we see of two face
I would love it even more if we got as little as possible of him, it will make the movie feel more powerfull and set up the third film better

Yurka
06-16-2008, 11:10 PM
Just noticed in the first couple frames of :29, (nerd, I know)
It looks like you can see a muscle or something from the top part of his mouth to the jaw, much like the concept art.

bkey
06-16-2008, 11:10 PM
Man you can tell that he gets burned as opposed to being splashed with acid with all that blackened and charred skin.

No, its acid. But maybe burning from the hospital explosion as well?

I thought Oldman or Eckhart let leak that they had an important scene together as Gordon and Two-Face/Dent.

Yeah. Its not the last scene. Gordon said he shares a scene with Two Face near the end. Also, Two Face has at least two other scenes.

gwynplaine
06-16-2008, 11:10 PM
Great clip ! Cool way to reenergize a thread:woot:.

hame4479
06-16-2008, 11:11 PM
And wow it appears that that leaked pic was right on the money when it comes to how gruesome and horrid his appearence actually is.

DSET
06-16-2008, 11:12 PM
Why not? They are essentially two different people. One good the other evil.
well everyone has there own opinion but
the different voice thing can be easily overdone imo,
Id rather a good similarity to his original voice but still different and Im pretty sure thats what it is.

but thats just my opinion

TheBatman072
06-16-2008, 11:13 PM
Actually, according to Rory Bat, who was at WW, the scene shown there was actually shorter than this. It only had the last part. "Dent? I thought you was dead?" "Half."


Okay. So.


They show a MUCH shorter version at WW much earlier in the film's production, and then show a more extended clip NOW nearer the film's release.


Doesn't that...TELL you something? That maybe, just MAYBE, the WW clip was a taste of THIS clip, and that THIS clip is just a taste of the much longer scene we'll probably see in the movie?

bkey
06-16-2008, 11:14 PM
Okay. So.


They show a MUCH shorter version at WW much earlier in the film's production, and then show a more extended clip NOW nearer the film's release.


Doesn't that...TELL you something? That maybe, just MAYBE, the WW clip was a taste of THIS clip, and that THIS clip is just a taste of the much longer scene we'll probably see in the movie?

Possibly. Well, I mean I'm sure that the scene continues with Two Face killing the cop, and maybe the bartender as well.

DSET
06-16-2008, 11:14 PM
Actually, according to Rory Bat, who was at WW, the scene shown there was actually shorter than this. It only had the last part. "Dent? I thought you was dead?" "Half."

Your info is incorrect 072

this may be tru but its still a possibility of being condensed as alot of things in trailers\early footage usually are

ABleedingCorpse
06-16-2008, 11:15 PM
Ok...seen the clip over and over. From the news report on the tv, I'm figuring this scene happens during the first of the 3rd act of the film. Joker's rampage with the bridge and barges and boats and blah blah blah is taking place since Harvey's "dead", Joker knows Dent isn't Batman....which is why of course the barge thing happens.

With that said, and what the clip means...it's HARVEY talking (more or less). He answers to the name Harvey. What's in the voice? Take into account, that Dent's just been in an accident, at this point even his Normal voice wouldn't sound the same. It's a bit different, but not by much.

As far as I can tell, the Two Face personality hasn't been revealed yet. Though, the face...I can tell that the leaked photo was no B.S. Look closely and you'll see the missing cheek skin. And for those of you who are asking if the shot of alcohol would leak though that, it wouldn't. If you drink, you know what I mean. It would go directly back into his throat...which in itself would be hard to imagin seeing as how he was scarred and all. But it also would made a lot of sense as to why he needs a drink. haha

I'm getting that twisted hangman storyline feeling going on from Dark Victory in this clip. Two-Face is out for justice, and the crooked cops have to pay.

Anyways...that's my ...um..two cents worth.

hame4479
06-16-2008, 11:15 PM
No, its acid. But maybe burning from the hospital explosion as well?




We don't know that for sure, but honestly I have never seen an acid burn that chars skin charcoal black.

Yurka
06-16-2008, 11:15 PM
Actually, according to Rory Bat, who was at WW, the scene shown there was actually shorter than this. It only had the last part. "Dent? I thought you was dead?" "Half."

Your info is incorrect 072

Hmm, I thought there was a shot with him sitting at the bar. Oh well.
Thats good though, I love that he just comes out of no-where, right up to the guys face.

StillTheKing
06-16-2008, 11:17 PM
I was thinking about it and I think the last scene should be like one of the scenes from the Long Halloween where Two-Face, Batman, and Gordon are all on the roof together. I think that would be a good way to end it. IMO

bkey
06-16-2008, 11:17 PM
We don't know that for sure, but honestly I have never seen an acid burn that chars skin charcoal black.

Trust me, he's scarred by acid. I don't know how anyone could light a man's face on fire in a courtroom.

Conebone69
06-16-2008, 11:18 PM
And wow it appears that that leaked pic was right on the money when it comes to how gruesome and horrid his appearence actually is.
Its not gonna be that gruesome, like I said before the MPAA would of at least mentioned "disturbing images" in the rating

Yurka
06-16-2008, 11:18 PM
Trust me, he's scarred by acid. I don't know how anyone could light a man's face on fire in a courtroom.

And Eckhart has said in 2 different interviews that it is acid.
He also says its Poured onto his face.

bkey
06-16-2008, 11:19 PM
Its not gonna be that gruesome, like I said before the MPAA would of at least mentioned "disturbing images" in the rating

Good point, there isn't anything like that at all for TDK is there?

The Caped Knight
06-16-2008, 11:19 PM
Man I love the clip .