Harvey Dent/Two Face Thread

[Weadazoid]

I can only guess that we may see only brief moments of Dent as a potencial dark character, but no Two face not in this movie.

Eckheart is a fine choice lean and tall, with a face that could easily show twisted dementia

[Nepenthes]

yeah maybe Dent talking in the mirror in a seemingly casual, 'normal' kind of way or a few strange comments regarding criminals and law. the conversation in the Gannon sides, stuff like that. Personally I don't mind a little Big Bad Harv, i guess it depends on which version you prefer.

[Katsuro]

Thats version of two face has to be one of my favourite versions ever. I loved that episode in Batman TAS, and bluey grey skin just looks better to me than the red pinkish skin. And i hope they make Eckhart look a little but like this in the third film after The Dark Knight. http://www.gothampublicworks.com/twoface.html

It's sad that there've been so many terrible interpretations of Two-Face, that "Big Bad Harv" manages to stand out as the best.

You really should pick up The Long Halloween. The TAS version was so oversimplified it was depressing. They took away all the psychological complexity that made Two-Face interesting. Pre-transformation Harvey was a joke, too. I'm glad we can see from these sides already that he has plenty of good scenes in which he's doing things a good, hard-working attourney should be doing, and not just going out to dinner with Bruce Wayne.

And it's great to see he's a supporter of Batman. The kind of Harvey that most people would assume IS Batman is the kind of Harvey I want to see. I can't wait to see Harvey up on the GCPD HQ rooftop with Gordon and Batman.

And seriously, you liked the blue scarring?

[ghost_x]

As crappy as TAS Dent was, he had a great little introduction in the pilot

[Nepenthes]

It's sad that there've been so many terrible interpretations of Two-Face, that "Big Bad Harv" manages to stand out as the best.

You really should pick up The Long Halloween. The TAS version was so oversimplified it was depressing. They took away all the psychological complexity that made Two-Face interesting. Pre-transformation Harvey was a joke, too. I'm glad we can see from these sides already that he has plenty of good scenes in which he's doing things a good, hard-working attourney should be doing, and not just going out to dinner with Bruce Wayne.

And it's great to see he's a supporter of Batman. The kind of Harvey that most people would assume IS Batman is the kind of Harvey I want to see. I can't wait to see Harvey up on the GCPD HQ rooftop with Gordon and Batman.

And seriously, you liked the blue scarring?

Okay it's been years since I saw any Two-Face TAS episodes so help me. How is Big Bad Harv so different from Dent in TLH? He had a few strange and 'dark' moments in there as well, it's even *suggested* that he might have been responsible for some of the Holiday killings himself....

I just assumed the cartoon exaggerated the dark Harv moments for the sake of time efficiency and a younger audience. Is that it, a matter of exaggeration or what?

[Crooklyn]

The cartoon added the subplot that Harv already had a split personality well before the accident.

[Miranda Fox]

I watched Thank you for smoking and The Black Dahlia this week and i am now confident in Eckhart as Dent.

Told ya! :up: :oldrazz:

[Nepenthes]

The cartoon added the subplot that Harv already had a split personality well before the accident.

you mean he actually spoke in two separate voices, two personalities fighting each other, etc?

If so it seems kinda sensible they made it like that. It would've be hard to show a deeply conflicted guy without making clear distinctions between 'good Dent, bad Dent' in a half hour children's toon.
or maybe I should see the eps before I talk...

[Dark Sentinel]

people can have two sides to one personality, but it takes a truly traumatic event to actually separate them and create two distinct identities

[frank the tank]

i think harvey dent when he is two-face should maybe not realise that hes doing terible things, so half the time it would be like "bruce it wasnt me" but he does'nt know hes Subconsciously doin it as two face. jus a thort.

[TimDrake64x]

the tas version had to be simplified because of the age group it was aimed at and the time restraints. but the movie version should be more like tlh

[Katsuro]

Okay it's been years since I saw any Two-Face TAS episodes so help me. How is Big Bad Harv so different from Dent in TLH? He had a few strange and 'dark' moments in there as well, it's even *suggested* that he might have been responsible for some of the Holiday killings himself....

I just assumed the cartoon exaggerated the dark Harv moments for the sake of time efficiency and a younger audience. Is that it, a matter of exaggeration or what?

TAS oversimplified Two-Face to a ridiculous degree. Basically, he was already Two-Face before the accident. He had a full-on split personality before his face was ever damaged. He would switch back and forth from good Harvey Dent, to Big Bad Harv. All the accident did was leave the BBH persona permantly in charge.

TLH is much deeper. Sure, he has dark moments, but he never acts on them. He expresses a slight desire to turn some bad guys loose, knowing the mob will take them out. He expresses ever so slight happiness at the death of a corrupt bank manager. And he hints that part of him would like to skim a little off the top when him and Batman enter a room full of untracable cash. But these are the kinds of feelings lots of people have.

It's still Harvey saying these things, too. It's not some split personality. He doesn't suddenly turn into a completely different person. It's not until after the accident that his psyche is fractured and he essentially develops a split personality.

Also, Harvey was never the killer in TLH. There were hints before the end of the story that he might've been, but by the end we see that he wasnt. His wife, Gilda, started the killings. Alberto finished them starting with his own death, and Gilda merely assumed it was Harvey who continued them.

[Mr. Wooden Alligator]

yep. im pretty sure that they must be old friends from WAY back, since they were in their youth. it would be kind of questionable for Bruce to have come to know of Harvey Dent AFTER the events of BB. Being Batman, wouldnt you think that he minimizes his up-close relationships from that time on?

After BB, Bruce would be extra careful & would always have his "socialite mask" on. any friendship he establishes from that point would not be as close as the kind of friendship one acquires back in his youthful days, in his more innocent & honest days.

the way i see it, when he became Batman, Bruce Wayne has now become the MASK & the real Bruce Wayne has already evolved into the Batman.

Likewise, if Harvey was such a decent guy, he would not consider this bigtime rich brat-ish Jerk Bruce Wayne as somebody he could trust as a friend. Not unless he'd have known him from way back.

That's the kind of Bruce-Harvey dynamic I'd like to see. However, he's tight with Bats.

[odiin]

So now that the final theatrical trailer for Spider-Man 3 has been released showing this little nugget:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/valentine1731/s3t12pb9.jpg

Anyone think something along those lines would be great for two-face?

I do. It's definitely not over the top, definitely realistic, yet extreme enough that the average woman would never consider dating him. That's pretty much how I imagine two-face being.

[regwec]

What a rip off!

[Miranda Fox]

So now that the final theatrical trailer for Spider-Man 3 has been released showing this little nugget:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/valentine1731/s3t12pb9.jpg

Anyone think something along those lines would be great for two-face?

I do. It's definitely not over the top, definitely realistic, yet extreme enough that the average woman would never consider dating him. That's pretty much how I imagine two-face being.

I think that's along the right lines, but I'd personally like to see a bit more scarring.

[ghost_x]

Thats no where near the scarring I want to see on Dent, and to be honest Harry is still a really good looking guy even with a scar

[Keyser Sushi]

LOL, they Two-Faced Harry? I guess that's the result of the pumpkin-bomb scene from the trailer? :eek:

[ghost_x]

Yep, apparently bombs directly to the face only leave small scars

[Steelsheen]

^ maybe he ducked :p

i'm not half as spoiled for Spidey3 as i was last time. i think its doing me good.

[ghost_x]

nope it hits him direct square in the face

[Steelsheen]

^ whoah. mugs of steel.

[Eros]

Yep, apparently bombs directly to the face only leave small scars

well considering Harry has superhuman strength,speed, and durability thanks to the goblin gas, Its not surpirsieng that he came out with a only a scared face.

[ghost_x]

He can't stop death though, and bombs to the face usually result in such

[Eros]

He can't stop death though, and bombs to the face usually result in such


well then falling into a vat of poisonous chemicals usually doesn't dye your skin white, and drive you insane.

[ghost_x]

Well actually bleach can potentially whiten skin and insanity is a fairly common thing, especially if you were to look like the Joker does. I'm not quite sure what relevance that has now? unless of course your trying to prove the point that comics aren't based around the idea of logic? Well if that's the case than the New Goblin wasn't essentially a comic character, Harry was supposed to be the GG2

[Eros]

Well actually bleach can potentially whiten skin and insanity is a fairly common thing, especially if you were to look like the Joker does. I'm not quite sure what relevance that has now? unless of course your trying to prove the point that comics aren't based around the idea of logic? Well if that's the case than the New Goblin wasn't essentially a comic character, Harry was supposed to be the GG2


My point is its a fiction. And no if I tossed you in poisonous chemicals, chances are you would die.

[Nepenthes]

Well actually bleach can potentially whiten skin and insanity is a fairly common thing

http://www.circus-krone.de/image/stars/promis/m_jack_1.jpg

no kidding :cwink:

[Miranda Fox]

LOL, they Two-Faced Harry? I guess that's the result of the pumpkin-bomb scene from the trailer? :eek:

LOL, it's funny, but I remember thinking *wouldn't that, like, burn his skin horribly?' and wondering why it apparently hadn't. D'oh!

[Steelsheen]

defective pumpkin bomb ;)

[TimDrake64x]

http://www.circus-krone.de/image/stars/promis/m_jack_1.jpg

no kidding :cwink:

lmao

and i dont think we should be question the reality limits on movie about a guy who sticks to walls

[ghost_x]

My point is its a fiction. And no if I tossed you in poisonous chemicals, chances are you would die.

It sounds like you want to give it a try, don't fight the feelings :cwink:

[regwec]

I must point out that The Joker fell into a vat of misc. chemicals, not acid, so he did have some chance of survival.

[Nightwing]

Eckhart is going to be great. He's been in a few films which have been both good and bad, but overall, he had a really good performance in Thank You For Smoking. He did a very decent job as well in The Black Dahlia, even though the film itself wasn't all that special.

Solid choice.

Oh, and I believe in StorminNorman.

[itsthebatman]

Eckhart is going to be great. He's been in a few films which have been both good and bad, but overall, he had a really good performance in Thank You For Smoking. He did a very decent job as well in The Black Dahlia, even though the film itself wasn't all that special.

Solid choice.

Oh, and I believe in StorminNorman.

He who does not believe in StorminNorman, believes in nothing.
Eckhart is the man.

[batboy99]

nope it hits him direct square in the face
yeah,it does,i think he's also blind in one eye now(hence the light blue eye color)

[Mr. Credible]

yeah,it does,i think he's also blind in one eye now(hence the light blue eye color)

you'd think the hair on that side of his head would've been burned off though. oh well.

[Nepenthes]

^ but then he wouldn't look so spunky....:whatever: :cwink:

i like how Harry's mask protects his mouth and eyes but leaves his little hairdo poking out the top. good look :up: until you fly headfirst into a metal pipe

[ghost_x]

Harry clearly isn't the type of villain to construct a uniform to hold up in a fight with a superhuman man spider

[batman7289]

So now that the final theatrical trailer for Spider-Man 3 has been released showing this little nugget:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/valentine1731/s3t12pb9.jpg

Anyone think something along those lines would be great for two-face?

I do. It's definitely not over the top, definitely realistic, yet extreme enough that the average woman would never consider dating him. That's pretty much how I imagine two-face being.
thats pretty good. but 2face has to have more redness from the acid burning his skin and maybe a lil bit of hanging or melted flesh

[StorminNorman]

Eckhart is going to be great. He's been in a few films which have been both good and bad, but overall, he had a really good performance in Thank You For Smoking. He did a very decent job as well in The Black Dahlia, even though the film itself wasn't all that special.

Solid choice.

Oh, and I believe in StorminNorman.

Batman for BatMod :up:

[bdsproductions]

I would have personally much preffered Dent filling out Rachael's role in Begins.

Minus of course the love interest part :cwink:

Dent, as a character, requires alot of development, and it would have worked better had he had another film to be in to make the audiences love him, and then...

Well, you know the rest :cwink:

[itsthebatman]

Batman for BatMod :up:

Kiss-a$$.

[Nepenthes]

shameless pandering :cwink:

[Octoberist]

I would have personally much preffered Dent filling out Rachael's role in Begins.

Minus of course the love interest part :cwink:

Dent, as a character, requires alot of development, and it would have worked better had he had another film to be in to make the audiences love him, and then...

Well, you know the rest :cwink:

sure ;)

[Steelsheen]

i saw part of Suspect Zero at my buddy's house. that was an interesting film, but best part is that movie has convinced me 100% that Eckhart is the right man to play DA Harvey Dent. part of me is wishing that Nolan would show a sequence where we see Dent psychologically transforming into Two Face. dayum Eckhart's gonna own! :up:

[Cronus]

Waiting to see the Nolan version two face with high hope.

[ghost_x]

Hope your patient, your going to be waiting a longg time...

[Cronus]

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i169/vizor64/Two_Face_vs__Batman_by_No_Sign_of_S.jpg

[Nepenthes]

http://www.geekroar.com/leopoldo/wp-content/freaked.winters.milkman.jpg
:wow:

Is this not THE PERFECT Two-Face image right here?

'milk' hee hee :yay:

[ghost_x]

What the **** is it?

[ghost_x]

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i169/vizor64/Two_Face_vs__Batman_by_No_Sign_of_S.jpg

This is a great image

[Two-Face]

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i169/vizor64/Two_Face_vs__Batman_by_No_Sign_of_S.jpg



That's great pic! :up:

[batman44]

Props to Asberry of BOF who wrote this about the intro to the Absolute Batman: The Long Halloween.



Get this: It's not just Christopher Nolan! It's David Goyer as well. And it's an interview where they speak about everything they enjoyed about The Long Halloween. The coolest thing that is said by Nolan and Goyer is that after The Dark Knight comes out it (and yes, they did refer to it by that title, just "The Dark Knight" thank God and not Batman:The Dark Knight) it will be clear that The Long Halloween had the greatest influence on the films. They also say that Long Halloween is pivotal to how they created the character of Harvey Dent and that there will most certainly be more of rooftop meetings!

[ghost_x]

Thats satisfied me, TLH Dent is perhaps the best interpretation of the character

[StorminNorman]

Props to Asberry of BOF who wrote this about the intro to the Absolute Batman: The Long Halloween.



Get this: It's not just Christopher Nolan! It's David Goyer as well. And it's an interview where they speak about everything they enjoyed about The Long Halloween. The coolest thing that is said by Nolan and Goyer is that after The Dark Knight comes out it (and yes, they did refer to it by that title, just "The Dark Knight" thank God and not Batman:The Dark Knight) it will be clear that The Long Halloween had the greatest influence on the films. They also say that Long Halloween is pivotal to how they created the character of Harvey Dent and that there will most certainly be more of rooftop meetings!


http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f39/StorminNormanTho/Din.jpg

[Paste Pot Pete]

http://www.geekroar.com/leopoldo/wp-content/freaked.winters.milkman.jpg
:wow:

Is this not THE PERFECT Two-Face image right here?

'milk' hee hee :yay:

Is that Bill S. Preston, Esquire?

[Nepenthes]

Yep. His name is something Winters and he either directed or wrote Bill & Ted and then he did Freaked ^ it's another great, stupid movie. Keanu Reeves plays a dogman.

I swear that make-up must have been modeled on the classic comic book Two-Face. In the movie he also has a little guy growing out of his shoulder.

[DSET]

Props to Asberry of BOF who wrote this about the intro to the Absolute Batman: The Long Halloween.



Get this: It's not just Christopher Nolan! It's David Goyer as well. And it's an interview where they speak about everything they enjoyed about The Long Halloween. The coolest thing that is said by Nolan and Goyer is that after The Dark Knight comes out it (and yes, they did refer to it by that title, just "The Dark Knight" thank God and not Batman:The Dark Knight) it will be clear that The Long Halloween had the greatest influence on the films. They also say that Long Halloween is pivotal to how they created the character of Harvey Dent and that there will most certainly be more of rooftop meetings!

thats wicked news u have an article link?

[batman44]

Well, I have the link to the original post; but if you want to find exactly what Nolan and Goyer wrote you'll have to buy Absolute Batman: The Long Halloween. Jett ordered the book and said he'll post a review as soon as he gets it...so maybe you won't have to buy it.

http://p088.ezboard.com/fbatmanonfilm81780frm18.showMessage?topicID=1832.t opic

[itsthebatman]

Great stuff. Norm, there''s no need to gloat. Accept victory graciously!

[ghost_x]

Yep. His name is something Winters and he either directed or wrote Bill & Ted and then he did Freaked ^ it's another great, stupid movie. Keanu Reeves plays a dogman.

I swear that make-up must have been modeled on the classic comic book Two-Face. In the movie he also has a little guy growing out of his shoulder.

Looks more like half a gremlin than two face

[Katsuro]

Props to Asberry of BOF who wrote this about the intro to the Absolute Batman: The Long Halloween.



Get this: It's not just Christopher Nolan! It's David Goyer as well. And it's an interview where they speak about everything they enjoyed about The Long Halloween. The coolest thing that is said by Nolan and Goyer is that after The Dark Knight comes out it (and yes, they did refer to it by that title, just "The Dark Knight" thank God and not Batman:The Dark Knight) it will be clear that The Long Halloween had the greatest influence on the films. They also say that Long Halloween is pivotal to how they created the character of Harvey Dent and that there will most certainly be more of rooftop meetings!

Hell yes. Best news ever!

[Two-Face]

That's great news :up:

[StorminNorman]

Great stuff. Norm, there''s no need to gloat. Accept victory graciously!

I have been waiting for several months to claim a single fanboyish victory. First Paul Bettany was taken away from me, then Liev Schreiber/Chris Meloni/Denzel Washington/everyone else on my list, so I am going to gloat on my next most interested interest.

:cmad:

:D

[itsthebatman]

Then I give you your moment. Bask in it, my friend, bask.

[Miranda Fox]

Aaron attended the opening of a Broadway show yesterday and still seems to be sporting his usual blond hair:

http://www.aaron-eckhart.net/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=29

I remember some people being quite insistant that he should dye his hair brown, but really, is it that important? :/

[Two-Face]

To me if Eckhart gets the the character right, that's all matters.

[Miranda Fox]

To me if Eckhart gets the the character right, that's all matters.

:up:

[regwec]

http://www.aaron-eckhart.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=29&pos=5

Eckhart for The Joker!

[Miranda Fox]

http://www.aaron-eckhart.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=29&pos=5

Eckhart for The Joker!

Great. Now I want a manip of that. :csad: :oldrazz:

[Dark Knight]

Aaron attended the opening of a Broadway show yesterday and still seems to be sporting his usual blond hair:

http://www.aaron-eckhart.net/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=29

I remember some people being quite insistant that he should dye his hair brown, but really, is it that important? :/



I have a feeling this guy is going to rule as Dent!

[Dark Sentinel]

In response to Miranda's quote, i think its a good idea that Harvey have blond or "fair" hair. It shows his "lighter" (i.e. "good") side before Two-Face comes on the scene in the sequel

[StorminNorman]

In response to Miranda's quote, i think its a good idea that Harvey have blond or "fair" hair. It shows his "lighter" (i.e. "good") side before Two-Face comes on the scene in the sequel

I am all for Harvey symbols - but I think that is going a bit too far :o

[Steelsheen]

To me if Eckhart gets the the character right, that's all matters.

co-signed

[Shoemeister]

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i169/vizor64/Two_Face_vs__Batman_by_No_Sign_of_S.jpg

That's a beautiful piece of artwork right there.

[Dark Sentinel]

I am all for Harvey symbols - but I think that is going a bit too far :o

haha well i don't think that Nolan would flaunt it, but that's how i'd separate the "Harvey" side from the "Two-Face" side. it's just a subtle thing, they dont have to make a big deal out of it

[Doc Holliday]

haha well i don't think that Nolan would flaunt it, but that's how i'd separate the "Harvey" side from the "Two-Face" side. it's just a subtle thing, they dont have to make a big deal out of it

They could also do the opposite, and give him naturally dark hair, and have it white post-scarring on the left side.

[nightwing07]

two face is cool but why does he incoperate coin flipping
does he do this as harvey dent?

[Red_Dragon]

Here's my lazy attempt at a Two-Face manip:
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/1701/twofaceeckhartlb8.jpg

[Hartter]

Eckhart was great in the "Black Dahlia" and "In The Company Of Men"...you watch that flick and you can see how he switches from good guy to bastard in the blink of an eye...

[lukelindemeyer]

I'll see your Two-Face photoshop and I'll raise you THIS!
http://www.imadethisproductions.com/eckharttwoface.jpg
Man, I really hope to see Two-Face by the end of "The Dark Knight." have it be the "catch" for the next one. I'll pretty much crap my pants.

[Cronus]

I'll see your Two-Face photoshop and I'll raise you THIS!
http://www.imadethisproductions.com/eckharttwoface.jpg
Man, I really hope to see Two-Face by the end of "The Dark Knight." have it be the "catch" for the next one. I'll pretty much crap my pants.

oOOWAaAaOoo!!!!! coooooooooooooooool :wow:

[ghost_x]

Thats pretty ****ing scary

[Nepenthes]

lukelindemeyer if you reverse the pic the scarring will be on the correct side of his face! :cwink: I like how the scarring blends in on his forehead. The colour doesn't look very good though, maybe it could be more grey or a flesh tone, it's a little cartoony right now. :up:

[jsf]

...are they gunna have him wearing that cheesey (but classic) two colored suit? I almost hope not

[Muziko]

I doubt they'd have him wear a two colored suit (Left half one color, right half another)... maybe he'll just have scarred up half face and hand...

Truthfully speaking...I kind of don't want to see too much of Two-Face in this movie... I mean, Two-Face can be just as big of a menace as Joker, and it seems that the Clown Prince is already causing mayhem on the scene. I believe Joker should have an overwhelming presence as the main villain in this movie... he's just that bad ass.

[jsf]

yeah, def... i think nolan and goyer already said that they weren't going to have him in this movie, he wasn't going to emeger as a villain until the next one

[Nepenthes]

It would be nice to reveal the fresh scarring at the end, perhaps in a darkened hospital room but that is all.

It will make the ending more tragic than just seeing Dent in bandages, because the audience won't know how severely he was fu*ked up, they might just assume something minor.

[Rynan]

I'll see your Two-Face photoshop and I'll raise you THIS!
http://www.imadethisproductions.com/eckharttwoface.jpg
Man, I really hope to see Two-Face by the end of "The Dark Knight." have it be the "catch" for the next one. I'll pretty much crap my pants.

You know, that's great and all, but there's one problem with it.

The scarring is on the wrong side.

[Muziko]

[quote=lukelindemeyer;11586364]I'll see your Two-Face photoshop and I'll raise you THIS!
http://www.imadethisproductions.com/eckharttwoface.jpg
quote]

It's a cool manip. Other than the fact that the scarring should be on the left side of Dent's face, it looks good. For some reason, I don't see "Nolan n' them" going in that direction for the look of two face. Wouldn't be bad if they did though.

[regwec]

A great manip- a simple horizontal flip, and it's perfect.

[SilentType]

Not my manip, it's lukelindemeyer's. I take no credit. I just flipped it.
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3831/eckharttwofacecopyrb7.jpg

[Nepenthes]

Strange how it just doesn't seem 'right' until it's flipped. I'm with Muziko it's looks great but my I doubt they'll won't go that way, all skeletal and ghoulish. My unnerring sense of premonition tells me so.

[AndrewGilkison]

That's very Long Halloween-ish.

[jsf]

That's very Long Halloween-ish.

exactly what i was thining... and I doubt he'll look something like that, maybe close though since it's real enough for Nolan, but he might change it a bit more to look like it's scareing and not mutated flesh

[regwec]

Harvey suffered acid burns to the face, which this manip simulates quite well. Why would he have scars of any other nature?

[jsf]

Harvey suffered acid burns to the face, which this manip simulates quite well. Why would he have scars of any other nature?

yeah i know, but in this manip and in certian, well... almost all the comics/cartoons and movies they show his skin looking like it's been mutated, not chemically burned. i just think that Nolan might go with a look similar to this, but still keep the general skin tone of his face and not have it be pink or purple or have one eye thats bigger than the other, etc. if he wants it to stay real he'll probably have him look more like a fire burn victim rather than mutant

[regwec]

I think you can have both: Two Face probably appears to have a huge eye and bared teeth because his lips and eyelids have been burned off. Englehardt often has him using eyedrops to stop the thing drying up and falling out of his head. :)

[jsf]

ok... well how do you think Nolan will approach this character knowing how Nolan likes to film

[regwec]

I don't know, because he has never filmed a character like Two Face before.

[jsf]

Yeah true, did you see Eckhardt in Thank you for Smoking?

[Dark Knight]

Not my manip, it's lukelindemeyer's. I take no credit. I just flipped it.
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3831/eckharttwofacecopyrb7.jpg


Nice! Yeah....whatever would have an effect on the face of a REAL acid scar or burn.

[Dark Knight]

Not my manip, it's lukelindemeyer's. I take no credit. I just flipped it.
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3831/eckharttwofacecopyrb7.jpg


Nice! Yeah....whatever would have an effect on the face of a REAL acid scar or burn.

[itsthebatman]

We don't want it too real-looking, otherwise it'll just look like Mel Gibson in Man Without A Face. And nobody wants that. I think it should look pretty horrific.

[Muziko]

I was flipping through the channels on TV the other day...and came across that movie (Man Without a Face) and I immediately thought "Two-Face"... and not because Mel Gibson's character looks like the two-face from the comics..simply because it's a very realistic take on the character (just burned/melted/scarred skin on one side of the face). I also hope that they don't go that route for Two Face in TDK... or the third film (whichever film we see Two-Face in) He needs to look like... well... he needs to look kind of like the manip that Silent Type posted!

[Antonello Blueberry]

Harry Osborn in Spider-Man 3 ends up with a Two-face like scarring. Maybe a bit too subtle for the Batman character.

[Nepenthes]

I can't find the original manip by Dorky Fresh in my photobucket but this is one I adjusted to see how different colours look.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g74/ngorsh01/dorkydentblue-1.jpg

^ the original had the scarring in flesh tones, it was near perfect if you ask me.

[ghost_x]

them grey colours seem a bit off for Two Face but the scar texture is good

[ghost_x]

Harry Osborn in Spider-Man 3 ends up with a Two-face like scarring. Maybe a bit too subtle for the Batman character.

It is far too subtle for Two Face, but the prosthetic work is a good sign for the final look of Two Face

[itsthebatman]

Harry Osborn in Spider-Man 3 ends up with a Two-face like scarring. Maybe a bit too subtle for the Batman character.
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4489&d=1174626803
it's a bit too subtle for my taste, alright.
TLH Two-Face is what I'd like to see, lips and hair burnt away.
Not that we're gonna see it for another FOUR YEARS!

[jsf]

I can't find the original manip by Dorky Fresh in my photobucket but this is one I adjusted to see how different colours look.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g74/ngorsh01/dorkydentblue-1.jpg

^ the original had the scarring in flesh tones, it was near perfect if you ask me.

hell yes, that looks great! something of that sort would be perfect.

[Nebins]

Heres my take on Two-Face
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g5/Nebins/Picture4.png

[comic_guy04]

Heres my take on Two-Face
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g5/Nebins/Picture4.png

Not to take a **** on your work but that gives me a huge quasi-zombie vibe.

[Cronus]

Heres my take on Two-Face
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g5/Nebins/Picture4.png

I must appreciate your work…coz the manip is good but some how the burn effect is missing here… the scar looks like some zombie effect to me… nways no hard feelings bro.

[Cronus]

I can't find the original manip by Dorky Fresh in my photobucket but this is one I adjusted to see how different colours look.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g74/ngorsh01/dorkydentblue-1.jpg

^ the original had the scarring in flesh tones, it was near perfect if you ask me.

perfect!!!!

[hannya]

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g74/ngorsh01/dorkydentblue-1.jpg

^ the original had the scarring in flesh tones, it was near perfect if you ask me.

Love it! Subtle and scary. Excellent.
I did a similar one a while back but this mightnot be PG12!
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/6388/twoeckrv6.jpg

[comic_guy04]

I do firmly belive that his lips on the burn side should be curled back like that. I'm optimistic when it comes to the eye being curled back aswell, I could go either way but his teeth have to be showing to some degree invoulantarily. I wouldnt say like a zombie but right in between what Nepenthes and hannya have here.

[Nepenthes]

can someone please post DorkeyFresh's original manip? without the blue colour i added myself

[FaT_tONle]

Love it! Subtle and scary. Excellent.
I did a similar one a while back but this mightnot be PG12!
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/6388/twoeckrv6.jpg

Now THAT is too face... the eye are a bit exaggerated though

[Keyser Soze]

Not my manip, it's lukelindemeyer's. I take no credit. I just flipped it.
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3831/eckharttwofacecopyrb7.jpg

I love this one! If Two-Face looks like that, I'll be a happy camper!

However, I don't think we'll see Two-Face in "The Dark Knight". MAYBE have him get the acid thrown in his face at the end of the movie, though maybe even that could wait for part 3. But Two-Face should wait for the third film.

[C.R.E.]

yeah i know, but in this manip and in certian, well... almost all the comics/cartoons and movies they show his skin looking like it's been mutated, not chemically burned. i just think that Nolan might go with a look similar to this, but still keep the general skin tone of his face and not have it be pink or purple or have one eye thats bigger than the other, etc. if he wants it to stay real he'll probably have him look more like a fire burn victim rather than mutant

I totally agree, I think he will look more like a burn victim than a mutant, but I do think his skin tone will be different, but not that different. I think it will be kind of a greyish color, just so there is a distinction of 2 different people. But if it does look like this manip I would be fine with it because it looks pretty good. As long as it doesn,t look anything like Tommy Lee Jones's two-face, and there is not a perfectly straight line down his face I will be fine.

[OokieSpookie]

I really hope that if they do rush the turn from Dent to two face that at LEAST they save it until the very end of the film.
I would personally rather Dent just through out some signs of odd behavior and mood swings and then have the acid toss happen at the beginning of the third film.

[lixdexia]

what i'd like to see is basically the end of the TAS two face episode where he's escaping from the hospital and just before the credits start to roll we get one frame of his scaring, obscured by the regular side and the shadows.

[regwec]

That comic was fine right up to the insertion of the "Two Face is really Harvey's dead brother" bombshell. Otherwise, the characterisation is good.

[itsthebatman]

That comic was fine right up to the insertion of the "Two Face is really Harvey's dead brother" bombshell. Otherwise, the characterisation is good.
What comic is that from? Never seen it before.

[Cobblepot]

They should have replaced Rachel with Dent in BB, this way we could have a Two-face in The Dark Knight (now they have to rush this). Then we could have had The Joker in a story simulair to that of TLH and DV.

[itsthebatman]

They should have replaced Rachel with Dent in BB, this way we could have a Two-face in The Dark Knight (now they have to rush this). Then we could have had The Joker in a story simulair to that of TLH and DV.
They won't have to rush if they establish Harvey in TDK and introduce Two-Face in the third movie. As long as they don't do a Venom on it, we'll be fine.

[ghost_x]

I loved Lee's Two Face, his look was far closer to a burn than usually interpreted, he had that decayed, moulded effect, which personally I think would look great on screen.

[ghost_x]

By the way, has anyone seen Thursday, it's an overlooked gem of a film. It's a very Tarantino style film, with black black comedy and sharp dialogue. It's Quite old now but Eckhardt is in it along with Thomas Jane and Mickey Rourke. Eckhardt plays a crazy gangster, it's a nice watch to see what he could bring to the Dent role.

[ETHAR-N]

They should have replaced Rachel with Dent in BB, this way we could have a Two-face in The Dark Knight (now they have to rush this). Then we could have had The Joker in a story simulair to that of TLH and DV.

I think that to intriduce Dent in TDK is quite perfect, as long as two face doesnt appear till the last shot of TDK or in another sequel, just build the character in this movie, and use the villain in the next movie/s.

[ghost_x]

I hope Dent hasn't become two face by the end of this film. I really hope they end TDK as the trial is about to commence, but you see whoever it is sneak in the acid. That way you can leave the audience anticipating the verdict of Joker? and for anyone who doesn't know will be led to realise that there will be trouble at the trial and someone will be getting hurt. Than the very first scene of Batman 3 will be the continuing of the trial.

[Castle]

I would go one further and actually have the acid splashed on his face and have the last shot of him in the hospital... all bandaged up.... then the screen goes black and you hear that familar sound of a coin flip...

[regwec]

That might be nice. It would create a nice structure if TDK ended with an allusion to Two Face in the same way that Begins ended with an allusion to The Joker.

[Dark Sentinel]

That might be nice. It would create a nice structure if TDK ended with an allusion to Two Face in the same way that Begins ended with an allusion to The Joker.

my thoughts exactly. after i saw Begins i started writing a fanscript for the third film, and it opened with Harvey already scarred and in the hospital. never got far with the script though....

[Dark Knight]

when and if harvey becomes two-face, would any off shoot of jae lee's interpretation be stupid?
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a143/fearandloathing_/jaelee2.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a143/fearandloathing_/jaelee.jpg



Which book is this art from?

[ghost_x]

That might be nice. It would create a nice structure if TDK ended with an allusion to Two Face in the same way that Begins ended with an allusion to The Joker.

That was what my idea was leading to, it's too obvious to have Dent scarred at the end and than end on a cliffhanger after seeing his face. By leading up to it, it creates a sense of foreboding, you have the surprise of Jokers conviction at the end and the sense that someone is going to be seriously injured with the acid. That's a real cliffhanger.

[dark_b]

I would go one further and actually have the acid splashed on his face and have the last shot of him in the hospital... all bandaged up.... then the screen goes black and you hear that familar sound of a coin flip...
this would be nice. but not hte last scene of hte movie. this is a movie about batman so i think it would be nice to see him again glide above the city.

[C.R.E.]

I think the ending can go either way and it will still be good; two-face could show up at the end of TDK or at the begining of the 3rd movie. I think he will show up at the end of TDK in one of the last scenes. But I'm pretty sure he wont be a villian in this movie at all, because it would be too much story to fit into one film. I think they are just going to establish the Harvey Dent character.

[hannya]

Forgive my ignorance, people, but has there ever been a storyline where the Joker and Two-Face fight? At the risk of sounding like a nine year old that would be money

[ghost_x]

ye, there was a special called Batman: Two Face (I think that was it's name), Two Face kills Pamela Isley, who wasn't Poison Ivy in this. There was some sort of potion involved in the story which was created from a plant (pamela's involvement) it would cure Two Faces split personality, but Bruce takes it and he gets super strength. Selina Kyle's also in it, but she's not Catwoman either just another superhero. Joker cripples her, very similiarly to Barbara. Joker and Dent and I think Gordon was there fight, Joker basically kicks the crap out of Dent. It ends quite strangely, I think Batman died and two face too the potion and becomes a superhero who looks like Batman.

Obviously it was an alternate world from the regular Batman.

[regwec]

Well, The Joker fights Harvey in The Long Halloween, and shoots Two Face in Dark Victory. They also have a great standoff in Engelhardt's Dark Detective run.

[itsthebatman]

Well, The Joker fights Harvey in The Long Halloween, and shoots Two Face in Dark Victory. They also have a great standoff in Engelhardt's Dark Detective run.
Yeah, I was about to mention the Englehart story. Great stuff between them. Nothing else springs to mind other than what you've mentioned.

[Juanigi]

might as well throw this in here too

http://www.mywasteofspace.com/twoface.gif

[StorminNorman]

might as well throw this in here too

http://www.mywasteofspace.com/twoface.gif

oh my God that is scary.

[DorkyFresh]

can someone please post DorkeyFresh's original manip? without the blue colour i added myself

sorry i'm a bit late but ask and yee shall recieve...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/harveyeckart1b-1.jpg

[Nepenthes]

^ damn that's good. thanks Dorky

[Two-Face]

WOW! :up:

[ghost_x]

might as well throw this in here too

http://www.mywasteofspace.com/twoface.gif

It looks like CGI art because of the lighting, but it's from Dark City

[Juanigi]

basically, yeah.

[Cobblepot]

It's awefully quit around Harvey Dent right now.

[Steelsheen]

^^ probably prepping for the role.

anybody know where Eckhart is at?

[mrsparkle]

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i234/mrsparckle/twoface.jpg

[Nepenthes]

^:csad: not one of your better efforts MrSparkle. The scarring looks like an alien design for Star-Trek or something and Eckharts expression is kinda boring. Background's nice though.

[Hartter]

http://publish.hometown.aol.com/hartters2/images/batmanmovie2face.jpg

[ghost_x]

I have yet to of seen one good two face manip.

[Hartter]

thanks bud

[ghost_x]

No Problem

[comic_guy04]

Its hard to make acid bruns that don't look like **** so dont hate on all these guys and the fact they have too much time on their hands. But in all seriousness I do want Harvey's hair to be white or discolored on one side.

[regwec]

I have yet to of seen one good two face manip.

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3831/eckharttwofacecopyrb7.jpg

I think lukelindemeyer's approaches perfection.

[IamtheBatman]

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3831/eckharttwofacecopyrb7.jpg


Best two-face manip yet!

[itsthebatman]

Agreed regwec. Something similar to the TLH/DV look is what I'd like to see.

[Ibn]

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3831/eckharttwofacecopyrb7.jpg


Best two-face manip yet!

That man deserves the Nobel Prize!

[Lobster Charlie]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v360/LobsterCharlie/dent.jpg

[Lobster Charlie]

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3831/eckharttwofacecopyrb7.jpg


Best two-face manip yet!

I second that. Incredible!

[Nepenthes]

^ He looks too skeletor in that pic. I'd rather he was more fleshy

[Mister J]

That manip is insane! :wow:

The Dent campaign poster at the site is great. Hope to get some more stuff. :up:

[Nepenthes]

a bloody good manip though! :up: just prefer a different look

[Robin91939]

I got goosebumps seeing the "I believe in Harvey Dent" slogan.

-R

[Silver Souper]

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3831/eckharttwofacecopyrb7.jpg

I think lukelindemeyer's approaches perfection.

agreed regwec- the only definitive two-face manip so far

[Darknightnomis]

Alright intraweb artist..get those Manips going! :woot:

EDIT: HEY IT JUST HIT ME! HIS SLOGAN IS FROM THE LONG HALLOWEEN!

[breyfogle_rules]

AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

http://ibelieveinharveydent.warnerbros.com/images/dent.jpg

[Compi716]

AMAZING!!

That's so great. I'm so freaking stoked.

EKHART DAMMIT!

[ghost_x]

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3831/eckharttwofacecopyrb7.jpg

I think lukelindemeyer's approaches perfection.

It's a decent manip, but not what I want to see in Dent. Someone posted a Two Face manip in the Sequel Art using the Black Dahlia poster, and that was by far away the best one yet

[Ultimate_Superman]

He just looks like how he did in Thank You for Smoking.

[Johnichi Chiba]

That's such an awesome first official picture of Harvey.

[ghost_x]

Thats what cigarettes will do to ya

[Batman]

Love the campaign poster.

[Kleric]

Anyone else get the feeling that they are throwing us a bone here? A quick manip of a Harvey Dent campaign poster … DAMN THAT KICKS ASS! I totally geeked out here. It’s the slogan at the bottom. I freaked, plus the new description to boot. We are going to get some great long Halloween moments including a roof top meeting maybe even the promise they make. I bet Wayne Enterprises is a part of the "Friends of Harvey Dent"

I have never said this, I don’t like throwing too much support behind any one person as I trust no one but … I believe in Christopher Nolan …

[Shoemeister]

YES!

[Darknightnomis]

That campaign poster begs the question: Who's Harvey is running against for D.A.?

Rachel perhaps? :huh:

[vibeke_T]

I'm going to poo my pants!!!

[IamtheBatman]

Maybe, that's what MF meant about Rachel having more screen time.

[fabman]

Rachel will also have something to do with the storylines which lead into the third film ;)

[LostSon88]

I'm going to poo my pants!!!

:wow: :csad:

[Juggernaut33]

That campaign poster begs the question: Who's Harvey is running against for D.A.?

Rachel perhaps? :huh:

I don't think that the campaign will be part of TDK plot. It is just something to tease us.

[sasquatchs]

Probably, it seems alot to be elected, develop a relationship with Gordon, then get introduced to Batman, then start to clean the city up, and get scarred in one film. I reckon just the last 3 will be included but the others would have been great, that's why Dent should have been in Begins. Perhaps Dent knew Gordon already.

If he has been elected already there must be at least a few weeks between Begins end and TDKs beginning.

[LostSon88]

I'm pretty sure by the time TDK starts Harvey will already be DA. As mentioned before, this is just a lil' tounge in cheek thing WB is doing...

[Ceb-Man]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v360/LobsterCharlie/dent.jpg

I believe in Harvey Dent too. I am glad to see a picture of Aaron Eckart as Harvey Dent. Glad he didn't dye his hair, but is using his natural hair. I know Dent in the comics has brown hair and on BTAS has black, but I am glad they didn't require Eckhart to dye hair. Some dye jobs done in movies look bad.
I am excited more than ever to see TDK and the next sequel with Two-Face as the villian

[odiin]

I'm pretty sure by the time TDK starts Harvey will already be DA. As mentioned before, this is just a lil' tounge in cheek thing WB is doing...

Maybe by the time the film rolls around he will have just been elected? Like within the first 10 minutes of the film we'll see a news report somewhere about Harvey winning the election and there will still be a bunch of campaign signs everywhere. Good way to introduce the character, in my opinion.

[ultimatefan]

Beautiful, beautiful stuff. The synopsis and campaign slogan clearly suggest the movie´s largely inspired by TLH. The election thing suggests a bit of TAS on top of it. Anyone still questions why Nolan gets so much support from fans?

[Steelsheen]

"I Believe in Harvey Dent"

priceless :woot::up:

[Caliber]

I believe in Dent, the pic looks amazing. Its cool to see a fake politic ad as the first Dent pic.

[Nepenthes]

agree with Juggernaut there won't be any campaign it's just a cool (and poorly put together!) poster.....




it got me as thinking....advertisements for fictional Stark products like hoverboards and such would be a good campaign for the Ironman movie.

[Dark Phantom]

Damn, I just wish that they would dye his hair brown ><

I'm not against a blonde Harvey Dent/ Two-Face, it's just I don't get the same feeling as if Eckhart looked like him traditonally. I don't know maybe it's just the unsure look on his face.:dry:

[Mr. Socko]

This is awesome! We Believe in Dent!

[Mr. Socko]

Damn, I just wish that they would dye his hair brown ><

I'm not against a blonde Harvey Dent/ Two-Face, it's just I don't get the same feeling as if Eckhart looked like him traditonally. I don't know maybe it's just the unsure look on his face.:dry:

I think the blonde is fine, but damn he sure reminds me of Thomas Jane!

[ghost_x]

Eckhart saw how bad ass Jane was in Thursday, he decided to model himself after Jane

[Dark Knight]

I don't think that the campaign will be part of TDK plot. It is just something to tease us.


I agree.....

[ghost_x]

I think a nice twist in the story would be for Dent and Rachel to run against each other for D.A. It would highlight the Bruce/Batman dichotomy, with Bruce's loyalties having to go to Rachel, but Batman's to Dent.

[The Guard]

He looks like Aaron Eckhardt. Yeehaw. Is there a reason Nolan's leading men can't dye their hair to match their comic counterparts? Or is it that WB doesn't want three leading men with brown hair, which wouldn't be an issue if Bale dyed his black to begin with.

[Miranda Fox]

He looks like Aaron Eckhardt. Yeehaw. Is there a reason Nolan's leading men can't dye their hair to match their comic counterparts? Or is it that WB doesn't want three leading men with brown hair, which wouldn't be an issue if Bale dyed his black to begin with.

Or, maybe, Nolan figured Performance > Freakin' Hair Colour FFS!

Shocking, I know.

[LostSon88]

He looks like Aaron Eckhardt. Yeehaw. Is there a reason Nolan's leading men can't dye their hair to match their comic counterparts? Or is it that WB doesn't want three leading men with brown hair, which wouldn't be an issue if Bale dyed his black to begin with.

Hair color? I mean...seriously, you're b****ing about his hair color?!?!?

:csad:

[itsthebatman]

I think a nice twist in the story would be for Dent and Rachel to run against each other for D.A. It would highlight the Bruce/Batman dichotomy, with Bruce's loyalties having to go to Rachel, but Batman's to Dent.
I like it. Good idea.

[Mr. Socko]

Or, maybe, Nolan figured Performance > Freakin' Hair Colour FFS!

Shocking, I know.

God FORBID Both!

[NoName86]

Some of you people do cry like little children. It's just hair color, don't worry, the movie isn't going to fail because of it.

It's never lack of news or debating that keeps me away from this place, it's when people whine or act like idiots over the dumbest things. Like when someone says something obviously untrue trying to be funny, and then another person takes them serious and uses the :huh: smilie, arghh dear baby Jesus!!!! Lol

[lujho]

God FORBID Both!

Dude, didn't you know that dyeing one's hair reduces acting ability by 30%? I think Nolan's done the right thing here by giving performance top priority over looking like their drawn counterparts. :whatever:

Actually, I would have given Dent black hair, because I love his black/white colour theme in the BTAS design. That's my favourite version of Two-Face, I would simply have translated that to live action - apart from the blue colouration and straight line of course.

Heaven forbid comic book characters in films actually looking striking and interesting though.

[Batty Belfry]

Aaron Eckhart for the Crimson Chin!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Chin

[itsthebatman]

Damn, I just wish that they would dye his hair brown ><

I'm not against a blonde Harvey Dent/ Two-Face, it's just I don't get the same feeling as if Eckhart looked like him traditonally. I don't know maybe it's just the unsure look on his face.:dry:
Maybe he's trying to remember if he left the oven on when he was leaving the house.

[Miranda Fox]

Dude, didn't you know that dyeing one's hair reduces acting ability by 30%? I think Nolan's done the right thing here by giving performance top priority over looking like their drawn counterparts. :whatever:

Actually, I would have given Dent black hair, because I love his black/white colour theme in the BTAS design. That's my favourite version of Two-Face, I would simply have translated that to live action - apart from the blue colouration and straight line of course.

Heaven forbid comic book characters in films actually looking striking and interesting though.

I meant it's really not as important compared to how the actor does in the role. Yes? Logic?

[Darkest Knight]

He looks like Aaron Eckhardt. Yeehaw. Is there a reason Nolan's leading men can't dye their hair to match their comic counterparts? Or is it that WB doesn't want three leading men with brown hair, which wouldn't be an issue if Bale dyed his black to begin with.
SMH @ this post...

:dry:

[Miranda Fox]

You know, when they said people would actually start complaining about Dent being blond, I refused to believe it.

But no. Humanity really is that ****ing pathetic.

[itsthebatman]

He looks like Aaron Eckhardt. Yeehaw. Is there a reason Nolan's leading men can't dye their hair to match their comic counterparts? Or is it that WB doesn't want three leading men with brown hair, which wouldn't be an issue if Bale dyed his black to begin with.

EDIT: Forget it. Pic not coming up.

[Boom]

I figured people who be used to this by now. Did anybody in Batman Begins dye their hair?

And before you mention Oldman, I'm fairly sure that that's his natural hair color.

[Steelsheen]

You know, when they said people would actually start complaining about Dent being blond, I refused to believe it.

But no. Humanity really is that ****ing pathetic.

fans will complain about anything Miranda. fact of life.

[thorstone]

I can't believe they're making him blonde.

[Miranda Fox]

I figured people who be used to this by now. Did anybody in Batman Begins dye their hair?

And before you mention Oldman, I'm fairly sure that that's his natural hair color.

Oh, don't you get it, Boom? If they don't look like their comic book counterparts, their performance or, you know, anything important like that is invalid. Why? I don't know. But some geek on the internet said so, so it must be TRUFAX!

fans will complain about anything Miranda. fact of life.

What happened to the days when they complained about **** That Matters?

[itsthebatman]

You know, when they said people would actually start complaining about Dent being blond, I refused to believe it.

But no. Humanity really is that ****ing pathetic.
Calm blue ocean. Waves, gently crashing across the shore. Whales, singing quietly over the breeze.
Remember the response to Daniel Craig? James Blond? Why did it surprise you? But also, look what happened after the film came out - it was the performance, not the hair colour, that people talked about. Same will happen after TDK hits.

[Bond]

I can't believe they're making him blonde.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f77/mooncrickit/dave%20chapelle/bb61cf54.gif

[gdw]

Damn, I just wish that they would dye his hair brown ><

I'm not against a blonde Harvey Dent/ Two-Face, it's just I don't get the same feeling as if Eckhart looked like him traditonally. I don't know maybe it's just the unsure look on his face.:dry:

Well, remember that the first image fo Thomas Jane as the Punisher had him with blonde hair.

[Keyser Soze]

Who gives a tinker's piss about the hair colour?

It's HARVEY F'N DENT!

I marked out big-time when I saw that pic. Aweome little touch by Nolan and co. God, I'm so so hyped for this film.

[Artos]

I can't believe they're making him blonde.

Daniel Craig Will Be An Excellent Bond.

Oh wait...

[Steelsheen]

What happened to the days when they complained about **** That Matters?

well, look at it this way, its a good thing if all fans complain about is nitty gritty details like hair color. when fans complain about major things like plots, acting quality, music composition, even the budget, then you know the movie is in real trouble.

[Cain]

http://warehouse.carlh.com/article_079/total_recall_07.jpg

[lujho]

I meant it's really not as important compared to how the actor does in the role.

Of course it isn't. That doesn't mean it isn't nice when people who are entrusted to bringing characters to life from one visual medium to another - characters who are as much defined by how they're drawn as how they're written - put as much effort into the visual side as the characterization.

Not that I was expecting any different. He's obviously not concerned with that aspect of the characters. But don't be so condescending to people who are - you make it sound as if people who care how these characters look are ONLY concerned with the superficial. That we somehow don't care whether or not the character acts faithful to the comics, as long as they look right. Which is bullcrap, we care about both aspects, it's just that we care about one a more than other people.

Comics and film are visual media. You can't blame someone who's a fan of one or the other for being aesthetically oriented, concerned with how things look.

[Miranda Fox]

well, look at it this way, its a good thing if all fans complain about is nitty gritty details like hair color. when fans complain about major things like plots, acting quality, music composition, even the budget, then you know the movie is in real trouble.

That is a very good point, my man.

Thanks for bringing the logic as well. :up:

[StorminNorman]

Who gives a tinker's piss about the hair colour?

It's HARVEY F'N DENT!

I marked out big-time when I saw that pic. Aweome little touch by Nolan and co. God, I'm so so hyped for this film.

Listen to Keyser Soze *****es :o

[Miranda Fox]

Of course it isn't. That doesn't mean it isn't nice when people who are entrusted to bringing characters to life from one visual medium to another - characters who are as much defined by how they're drawn as how they're written - put as much effort into the visual side as the characterization.

Not that I was expecting any different. He's obviously not concerned with that aspect of the characters. But don't be so condescending to people who are - you make it sound as if people who care how these characters look are ONLY concerned with the superficial. That we somehow don't care whether or not the character acts faithful to the comics, as long as they look right. Which is bullcrap, we care about both aspects, it's just that we care about one a more than other people.

Comics and film are visual media. You can't blame someone who's a fan of one or the other for being aesthetically oriented, concerned with how things look.

Thank you for actually explaining that in a manner that makes sense. Unfortunately, some people do complain because 'he doesn't look exactly like the comics!' and I find that a bit silly.

[LostSon88]

The color of Eckhart's eyes are ALL wrong. :cmad:



















:cwink:

[Keyser Sushi]

You know, it is INCREDIBLY petty and ridiculous to complain about Eckhart's hair. I mean, I realize I'm the guy who wouldn't have cared if Harvey was black or Hispanic or Asian. I don't give a crap about skin color, let alone hair color, or hairstyle.

But I mean, come on... HAIR? Really?

You people are ridiculous.

[Kleric]

I don't care about his hair color myself, however I remember Dent from the comics mostly with light brown hair so for me it's close enough.

http://www.filmrot.com/images/batman_twofacecomic.jpg

[Batman FREAK]

It's hair. *End of point*

[IamtheBatman]

But, will his face look like when acid thrown on him red like in BF or brown from comics.

[lujho]

You know, it is INCREDIBLY petty and ridiculous to complain about Eckhart's hair. I mean, I realize I'm the guy who wouldn't have cared if Harvey was black or Hispanic or Asian. I don't give a crap about skin color, let alone hair color, or hairstyle.

But I mean, come on... HAIR? Really?

You people are ridiculous.

There IS a difference between being mildly disappointed by the way something looks and being outright outraged that they've totally ruined the character because they've changed his look.

This IS a forum dedicated solely to the subject of translating Batman comics to film - every possible subject will be discussed, especially any differences between source and adaptation.

That doesn't actually mean the people voicing their misgivings are actually placing great importance in the issue. It may seem that way but really we're just discussing what's there.

What else CAN we say about Dent? "Gee, I hope they get his character right?" well, duh, we all do, it goes without saying. The kind of things that get discussed in a forum of this type are the kind of issue you can latch on to - more often than not that means things that people see as wrong, not right. No-one's going to say "gee, I'm glad his skin's the right colour" or "yes, he's wearing a suit like I always hoped, rather than a green ballgown". You don't comment on the things that they obviously got right.

[lujho]

It's hair. *End of point*

What if he had pronounced baldness?

[lujho]

But I mean, come on... HAIR? Really?


I'd actually agree if Dent wasn't also two-face. If he was just a normal guy, like Gordon or whatever. But as a villain he's supposed to have an interesting, striking look.

There's a reason they gave Harvey black hair in BTAS and not brown like the comics. It's because it enhanced the black/white scheme of the character - which was a direct reflection of his personality. It was something that looked cool AND striking that literally tied in with the duality of his nature. Not particularly subtle, I'll conceed, but there's nothing wrong with doing things just because they look cool.

That's why I get disappointed at this kind of thing - it's not that I want things to look like the comics just for the sake of looking like the comics. It's because the miss these little opportunities for "visual coolness", which along with the incredibly important aspects of character, story, performance etc, is why I go to the movies. I just want things to look cool and interesting.

[Hartter]

Hot damn! That Dent poster rules.

[DangerousInc.]

Thats the first image we get? Lame. Why have a flyer as if Im a Gothamite? Im not Im a Batman/Joker fan.

For some reason I dont think this is a face that I would trust either. Maybe if he had another side to him I might like him!!

[DangerousInc.]

Thats the first image we get? Lame. Why have a flyer as if Im a Gothamite? Im not Im a Batman/Joker fan.

For some reason I dont think this is a face that I would trust either. Maybe if he had another side to him I might like him!!

[Keyser Sushi]

I'd actually agree if Dent wasn't also two-face. If he was just a normal guy, like Gordon or whatever. But as a villain he's supposed to have an interesting, striking look.

There's a reason they gave Harvey black hair in BTAS and not brown like the comics. It's because it enhanced the black/white scheme of the character - which was a direct reflection of his personality. It was something that looked cool AND striking that literally tied in with the duality of his nature. Not particularly subtle, I'll conceed, but there's nothing wrong with doing things just because they look cool.

That's why I get disappointed at this kind of thing - it's not that I want things to look like the comics just for the sake of looking like the comics. It's because the miss these little opportunities for "visual coolness", which along with the incredibly important aspects of character, story, performance etc, is why I go to the movies. I just want things to look cool and interesting.

What, you don't think the idea that half his head looks like hamburger is visually striking?

I'm pretty sure that Nolan's Two-Face will have at least one thing in common with Tim Sale's: the complete LACK of hair on the scarred side.

Which is far more logical than white hair anyway.

[Mr. Socko]

I think they could still pull off the black/white suit look, which has always been my favorite. Damn, I hope that suit is in!

[ToddIsDead]

I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't any modification to his hair when he becomes Two-Face. I don't know how the acid could conceivably cover the entire half of his face as well as half of his head of hair; all being right down the middle. At most, I'd expect a little bit of his hair to be burn off, but not a Sale style complete 50-50 job.

[Keyser Sushi]

I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't any modification to his hair when he becomes Two-Face. I don't know how the acid could conceivably cover the entire half of his face as well as half of his head of hair. At most, I'd expect a little bit of his hair to be burn off, but not a Sale style complete 50-50 job.


Well, I wouldn't way 50-50... that wouldn't be plausible, and therefore Nolan would stay away from it. But depending on the delivery method of the acid, and the amount of it, there's quite a range as far as the level of scarring. I'd like to see, not half his hair gone, but a large swath missing and a few bald patches around it, like he got splattered copiously.

There shouldn't be a straight line down the middle of his face, either. It's gotta be raggedy and fugly.

[Boom]

In lujho's defense, it would have been a cool gesture. I suppose, if anything, the fact that he simply looks like Aaron Eckhart makes it difficult for him to become the character in the eyes of some.

[sasquatchs]

I'm expecting less than 1/2 his face to be burnt, with the hair up to the ears gone. That way it looks like the worlds most gruesome receding hairline and allows him to appear perfectly normal from some camera angles.

[IamtheBatman]

Crazy, how we get a Dent pic before a Joker one.

[Batman FREAK]

As bad as Spider-Man 3 is, they acheived pretty realistic burns on Harry Osborn's face (like he should have even survived that explosion anyway..ugh).

For TDK something like that should be made a bit more gross and tragic though IMO.

[ToddIsDead]

I'm expecting less than 1/2 his face to be burnt, with the hair up to the ears gone. That way it looks like the worlds most gruesome receding hairline and allows him to appear perfectly normal from some camera angles.

That's more of what I'm expecting. I really think that's the only way to go. Having his hair change colors would just look ridiculous, but going all the way and burning off all of his hair is just completely unplausible. There has to be some sort of compromise. Anyway, we've got like four years until Two-Face will hit the screen, so we have plenty of time to ponder the possibilities.

[AndrewGilkison]

As bad as Spider-Man 3 is, they acheived pretty realistic burns on Harry Osborn's face (like he should have even survived that explosion anyway..ugh).

Harry injected the green gas into his body that made his dad the Goblin in the first film. If it allowed him to punch a hole into the side of a building and survive getting clotheslined by Spider-Man webbing and not get decapitated, then I don't see any reason why he couldn't survive a bomb to the face. At least it's logical within it's own universe.

As for Two-Face, I wouldn't mind the S-M 3 Harry Osborn approch, only covering a greater % of the side of his head. I am assuming the third film will be PG-13 too, so they will have to work within that when trying to create the Two-Face burns and not make them too disgusting.

[lujho]

What, you don't think the idea that half his head looks like hamburger is visually striking?

Of course I do. It's the most important visual element of the character and it's why I don't personally think the blonde hair thing is a big deal. But just because I don't think it's a big deal, doesn't mean I can't be a little disappointed at the loss of something a little extra.

I'm pretty sure that Nolan's Two-Face will have at least one thing in common with Tim Sale's: the complete LACK of hair on the scarred side.

Which is far more logical than white hair anyway.

True also, but not my personal preference.