Unicron

[The Joker_1000]

Do you all think that Unicron should be used in this movie? I recently learned about his character & I think it'd be pretty cool if we got Unicron in the next movie or maybe even in the third movie.

[DoctorJones]

Definitely not in no. 2. At this rate Unicron is definitely overused:

*The cartoon.
*The Marvel comics (I can name three major appearances in both the UK and US comic off the top of my head).
*Transformers: Armada and Energon (cartoons and comics).

It'd be cool on screen, but I'd rather see them use every pre-1986 character in these films before seeing the more futuristic characters. Then again, they shoved in Scorponok...

[Avangarde]

No dammit :down

[November Rain]

too early for the cron, although he did make a guest appearance inside galactus' cloud though...

[Avangarde]

Yeah he stands out like a sore thumb :csad:

[Super Kal]

hell yeah :up:

[tviceman]

No Unicron, EVER.

[The Joker_1000]

Why not? I think it'd be pretty badass to see the Autobots taking on Unicron in all his giant glory.

[DoctorJones]

He's been heavily overused, as you can tell from reading the whole thread.

[wiegeabo]

No Unicron, EVER.


Agreed.

[Nathan]

Maybe for a 3rd Movie. Right now I want more Autobot Vs. Decepticon action.

[Chris B]

No, but I can see Unicron appearing in TF3 along with the Qunitesonns.

[The Joker_1000]

He's been heavily overused, as you can tell from reading the whole thread.


How has he been overused?

[DoctorJones]

Just read my first post in this thread. There's a reason Simon Furman has forbidden Unicron from appearing in the IDW comics.

[The Joker_1000]

I'd still love to see him at least appear once in this franchise. He's pretty badass & it'd be great to see him on the big screen.

[DoctorJones]

Me too, but not for a long time.

[The Joker_1000]

Maybe about 20 minutes maximum just so he can at least get to cause destruction.

[Đeadpool]

No.

[The Joker_1000]

Nobody asked you.

[Đeadpool]

The Poll asked me ;)

[Arcturus]

I'm going to have to say no. I wouldn't mind seeing him appearing in a third Transformers movie.

[The Joker_1000]

If he does appear in the second movie, it should be a cameo at the end of the movie.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

too early for the cron, although he did make a guest appearance inside galactus' cloud though...

He was? When exactly?

Anyway, no Unicron just yet, save him for the 3rd or 4th movie.

[The Joker_1000]

Yeah, that'd probably be best. If he's going to appear in the third movie, have him be referenced at the end of the second movie. If he's going to be in the fourth movie, have him make some sort of cameo at the end of the third movie.

[WarBlade]

In all likelihood Unicron (as we know it) will never appear in the current Transformers live action franchise. And good riddance too. It doesn't take much wondering to figure out that very little characterisation can be given to a planetoid that roams the galaxy gobbling up everything in its path. You'd have practically zero interaction with all the 'little' transformers on the ground and some stupid plot finale where someone creates a diversion while someone else flies inside to upload the computer virus (or something equally banal).

I'm all for seeing an exciting one on one with Optimus Prime versus Megatron or a chaotic melee with three on three etc. Not everyone versus a metal asteroid. It would be as riveting as watching Jet Li performing martial arts on a volcano! :whatever:

Where Unicron belongs is back in the 80's in a cheesy cartoon where small handguns can transform into giant robots and people have silly names like Sparkplug and Spike.

[Jick09]

I think he should be there.
Autobots and Decepticons would team-up to defeat him.
kinda like X-2.
Transformers 3 would be the final war between Autobots and Decepticons.

[wiegeabo]

In all likelihood Unicron (as we know it) will never appear in the current Transformers live action franchise. And good riddance too. It doesn't take much wondering to figure out that very little characterisation can be given to a planetoid that roams the galaxy gobbling up everything in its path. You'd have practically zero interaction with all the 'little' transformers on the ground and some stupid plot finale where someone creates a diversion while someone else flies inside to upload the computer virus (or something equally banal).

I'm all for seeing an exciting one on one with Optimus Prime versus Megatron or a chaotic melee with three on three etc. Not everyone versus a metal asteroid. It would be as riveting as watching Jet Li performing martial arts on a volcano! :whatever:

Where Unicron belongs is back in the 80's in a cheesy cartoon where small handguns can transform into giant robots and people have silly names like Sparkplug and Spike.


:up: 100%

Not everything in the comics or cartoon needs to, or should, show up in the live action. Unicron just doesn't have a place.

[The Joker_1000]

I still think he could fit very well into this universe but hey, that's just me. He wouldn't have to be as giant as he was in the cartoon but he could still be huge. I'm sure that if Bay wanted to use him he could come up with something interesting for Unicron to do.

[knowsbleed]

In all likelihood Unicron (as we know it) will never appear in the current Transformers live action franchise. And good riddance too. It doesn't take much wondering to figure out that very little characterisation can be given to a planetoid that roams the galaxy gobbling up everything in its path. You'd have practically zero interaction with all the 'little' transformers on the ground and some stupid plot finale where someone creates a diversion while someone else flies inside to upload the computer virus (or something equally banal).

I'm all for seeing an exciting one on one with Optimus Prime versus Megatron or a chaotic melee with three on three etc. Not everyone versus a metal asteroid. It would be as riveting as watching Jet Li performing martial arts on a volcano! :whatever:

Where Unicron belongs is back in the 80's in a cheesy cartoon where small handguns can transform into giant robots and people have silly names like Sparkplug and Spike.

I still have faith that Unicron might be able to be used in a live action movie given the proper setting. He doesn't even need to be in the form of a giant planet sized Transformer. He could just be in the history, as in the comics where he is a diety of sorts. I, personally, love that explanation of how the Transformers came to be...though I'm sure Hollywood can find some way to jack that up ala the Allspark.

[The Joker_1000]

I actually want to see Giant Unicron but his size would definitely need to be cut down for the movie.

[Avangarde]

I still have faith that Unicron might be able to be used in a live action movie given the proper setting. He doesn't even need to be in the form of a giant planet sized Transformer. He could just be in the history, as in the comics where he is a diety of sorts. I, personally, love that explanation of how the Transformers came to be...though I'm sure Hollywood can find some way to jack that up ala the Allspark.

If they take that direction they should probably include Primus in there as well.

[knowsbleed]

If they take that direction they should probably include Primus in there as well.

Definitely...a nice flashback of Primus fighting Unicron. Sort of like at the beginning of Return of the King when you saw Smeagol fighting that other hobbit. A nice short flashback but it set up the tone of the movie perfectly. :up:

[The Joker_1000]

Is Primus as big as Unicron?

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Is Primus as big as Unicron?

The toy is a bit smaller but the characters are roughly the same size.

[The Joker_1000]

I don't think both of them would be able to be adapted in one movie because they are both too huge. I could only see them both being in the movie if they were scaled down so that they are actually able to walk around on Earth & fight each other.

[knowsbleed]

Read...it will help you understand: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primus_(Transformers)

[The Joker_1000]

I would've ended up going to that website eventually anyway, that's how I learned more about Unicron & the other Transformers.

[Avangarde]

Read...it will help you understand: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primus_(Transformers)

What happened to that Transformers guide you had in your sig way back during the TF1 hype?

[Mal'Akai]

No. He's too damn big. See, as big as all of the other Transformers are (put together I might add) They cannot be seen from space. And to see them fighting something that size, well, it would be like watching them fight Earth. It's impossible to show something that size in relation to these established characters. For reference, see Rise of the Silver Surfer. Leave Unicron out of these movies.

[The Joker_1000]

I'm sure he could be scaled down where he's small enough to actually fit on Earth.

[knowsbleed]

No. He's too damn big. See, as big as all of the other Transformers are (put together I might add) They cannot be seen from space. And to see them fighting something that size, well, it would be like watching them fight Earth. It's impossible to show something that size in relation to these established characters. For reference, see Rise of the Silver Surfer. Leave Unicron out of these movies.

If they use him and Primus in a flashback type scene to establish the origins of the Transformers like in the Marvel comics...the it would fit.

Anything can be done on screen. That's what movies are for...to make the impossible seem possible.

[Avangarde]

I'm sure he could be scaled down where he's small enough to actually fit on Earth.

Then that would be pointless in showing him. I remember the first time I saw Unicron transform in the animated movie all those years ago and thought "bloody hell that guy is effin huge". To scale him down would loose that awesome factor, not to mention the somewhat impossible task of destroying him.

[Cyclonus]

No, No, No, hell no to Unicron, I loved him the animated movie, but in a real movie. Its just too soon. If transformers became like starwars and this was the 5th or 6th movie then maybe yeah. There so much more story and characters to add in, than just jumping straight to Unicron. The need to add in some of the combiners and some of the animal transformers and characters like Astrotrain or big ships and planes and triple changers. Boy I hope bay doesn't F up this series.

[knowsbleed]

animal transformers?

no thanks.

[The Joker_1000]

Animal transformers would be the worst thing any of the writers or Bay could do to this movie series.

[The Joker_1000]

Then that would be pointless in showing him. I remember the first time I saw Unicron transform in the animated movie all those years ago and thought "bloody hell that guy is effin huge". To scale him down would loose that awesome factor, not to mention the somewhat impossible task of destroying him.

Well, if they aren't going to scale down his size, I guess Bay & crew should just wait until the third or fourth movie to introduce Unicron. I want it to happen somewhat like it happens in the animated movie where Galvatron threatons Unicron.

[Mal'Akai]

I'm sure he could be scaled down where he's small enough to actually fit on Earth.
And how many fanboys would that piss off?

[Mal'Akai]

If they use him and Primus in a flashback type scene to establish the origins of the Transformers like in the Marvel comics...the it would fit.

Anything can be done on screen. That's what movies are for...to make the impossible seem possible.
Yes, you have a point there. Just be prepared for something like the Galactus we got in FF2. But, in a flashback, without using other Transformers, they could work. But I still say leave him out.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

And how many fanboys would that piss off?

About as many as were pissed off by the changes done in the first film.:shock

[The Joker_1000]

As I've said earlier, nothing will always be like just in the comics. A few changes here or there isn't bad.

[Avangarde]

Bay would make Unicron an Air Craft Carrier...................with flames :csad:

[The Joker_1000]

I'm sure Bay would interpret the character close to the way he needs to be. All in all, I just think that Unicron is badass & should be in this live action franchise.

[lespaul59]

If he does appear in the second movie, it should be a cameo at the end of the movie.

I couldn't say it any better. I would either have Unicron as the last thing seen before the credits or have his out line be seen after the credits. I just think it would be awesome to just see his out line go across the screen then either the credits or nothing.

[The Joker_1000]

I'd say scale his size down just a little bit & have the Autobots battling him in space. That'd be something cool to see.

[Figs]

I don't want to see him in the second film, I want to see some more Autobot VS Decepticon action!!

I wouldn't mind him being the threat in the third film. I don't read the comics so I don't have the issue with him being overused in the Transformers mythology/universe.

[The Joker_1000]

I don't think he's overused, I just think there are a lot of people who just plain don't like him.

[Mr. Wooden Alligator]

I take it he's the Venom of the TF universe?

[The Joker_1000]

Eh, no.

[copywrite]

I don't think he's overused
How would you know? All you know about him is what you've read on wikipedia.

I'm sure that if Bay wanted to use him he could come up with something interesting for Unicron to do.
That's like an oxymoron. Michael Bay, doing something interesting? Knowing him, he would make Unicron a NASA shuttle with tribal decals on it.

[The Joker_1000]

How do you know I've only read about him on Wikipedia? You don't have a clue as to what I know about Unicron or where I obtained my knowledge so with that statement alone you need to just be quiet.

[copywrite]

I would've ended up going to that website eventually anyway, that's how I learned more about Unicron & the other Transformers.
That's how I know.

[Avangarde]

pwnd

[The Joker_1000]

No, I don't think so. That was almost three months ago. Try again.

[lars573]

I take it he's the Venom of the TF universe?
Not that bad (although that danger does exist). But Armada and Energon were ALL about Unicron. For most of the Energon series Megatron used Unicrons headless body as a base (and Alpha Quintesson used Unicrons head as his base), meaning of the series 52 epsidoes he appeard in some form in most of them. While both of them raced to get enough energon (post Beast Wars Tiberium-esque energon that is) to reactivate him for their own ends.

[Jochimus]

I think the closest we'll see to Unicron in the live-action movies anytime soon is that horned thing that S7 popped out of that Nokia in the first movie. Although that would lead to some interesting speculation as to the true nature and origins of the Allspark...

[chaseter]

Unicron and Primus for TF3:up:

[knowsbleed]

I'm all for Unicron... but knowing Bay, he will look like a big asteroid with fish lips and a billion moving parts.

[shigsy2003]

Okay Unicron isn't that popular then. Question: would you guys prefer Trypticon and Metroplex be introduced?

[Peter_Porker]

You can't have Unicron in TF2, cause that would be too much going on in the movie, not keeping one storyline on track (a la Spiderman 3)

[luca_frontino]

Let's speculate, instead of whining:

1. The Fallen is the main anti-hero in RotF and, since he's one of the original 13 TFs (some sort of Judas) who betrayed his 12 brothers to side with Unicron, thus makes it a close possibility to see Uni in CGI (it's not live action, but animation).

2. So far we're only aware of the existence of the Allspark, but that doesn't mean that Primus and Unicron are not involved.

3. Robots as big as our planet could walk on the surface of a red giant sun.
Stop whine about everything that doesn't fit on our stupid insignificant marble as being too big.
Grow up!

[Avangarde]

They could always make him the size of the moon, surely that's big enough, provided Bay wants him as a planet.

[luca_frontino]

One thing I owe to Michael Bay is that he's not afraid to push for bigger and bigger robots.

[Doctor Jones]

I think Orci and Kurtzman said they would like to introduce Unicron in the third film.

I'm all for the Dinobots. It would be interesting as to more of how they came to earth, maybe they caused the dinorsaurs extinction and scanned their bodies, taking over, lost for millions of years until how ever the end of T2 is, wakes them.

The third film should start in a archeological dig somewhere.

But there should be limited amount of Dinobots. I'm thinking like three or four.

[Venom]

Unicron better be moon-sized if he makes it to a live action film. Or else he couldn't interact with any of the other TF characters. Optimus would be the size of a microscopic germ compared to a planet sized transformer.

Before anyone asks, in the animated movie's scenes, Unicron could interact with other characters because they cheated on the scale.

[Raiden]

Unicron should not be in TF2. However, I think they should mention about it since Fallen has certain tie with Unicron, and if Prime really does die we might be able to see Unicron be introduced in TF3.

[DorkyFresh]

it would be cool to see a glimpse of Unicron or even a mention, but i wouldn't want him to actually play a role in this movie.


however, for the next movie...all bets are off.

[knowsbleed]

Yes, I'm all for a mention of him in this movie. It would be a perfect way to end the movie.

[SatEL]

I am no transformers expert so I googled this character and he sounds an awful lot like Galactus. I am surprised Marvel didnt sue the transformers guys for stealing Galactus and making him a robot.

[AnorexicBatman]

Only in an after credits sequence...
*Cue DarthVader inhale sound and mechanical laughter*

[Hypestyle]

Save Unicron for part 3... though i'm not sure how you justify how large Unicron is supposed to be, traveling through a solar system without causing all sorts of cosmic havoc...

[Chris B]

Personally, I think TF3 is still too early for Unicron. If it were up to me, I would prefer that the third film revolves around Shockwave in some capacity. Maybe take some inspiration from the second volume of the Dreamwave series with him having united the Autobots and Decepticons who remained on Cybertron under his rule. Something along those lines.

All the while planting more seeds for the arrival of Unicron in TF4.

[Avangarde]

The Potential for stories are endless when it comes to Transformers, just consider how many movies they can make before people get sick of it. Apart from Shockwave they can use Bludgeon and Thunderwing as bad guys as well.

[knowsbleed]

I took Unicron to my prom.






We were told to leave, Unicron was misbehaving.

[Avangarde]

:facepalm

[Chris B]

The Potential for stories are endless when it comes to Transformers, just consider how many movies they can make before people get sick of it. Apart from Shockwave they can use Bludgeon and Thunderwing as bad guys as well.

Exactly. Which is why they're better off holding off on Unicron until they're certain that they want to end the series.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Personally, I think TF3 is still too early for Unicron. If it were up to me, I would prefer that the third film revolves around Shockwave in some capacity. Maybe take some inspiration from the second volume of the Dreamwave series with him having united the Autobots and Decepticons who remained on Cybertron under his rule. Something along those lines.

All the while planting more seeds for the arrival of Unicron in TF4.

The Potential for stories are endless when it comes to Transformers, just consider how many movies they can make before people get sick of it. Apart from Shockwave they can use Bludgeon and Thunderwing as bad guys as well.

:up: 2 great posts which sum up my thoughts exactly, I think in the 3rd movie Shockwave or Thunderwing could be introduced with their own storylines, and save Unicron for TF4, which, lets face it, if these movies keep making money, we will see at some point.

Saying that, I would love a line from a defeating/dying Fallen at the end of TF2 to go something like "My defeat/death is meaningless, for though many serve me, I serve a still greater power!"

[luca_frontino]

I agree that "planet eater" Unicron is too similar to Galactus. Also, how's a planet suppose to feed a giant robot?
What about a sun eater, instead? A Unicron bigger than our sun that feeds on hydrogen.

[knowsbleed]

They haven't done Galactus in a motion picture anyway (DO NOT even say anything about Fantastic Four II)... so it wouldn't hurt to show a proper planet eater in motion.


Though I do like luca's idea about a sun eater. Though I don't see how any of the Transformers would battle anything on that scale. Too overwhelming.

[chaseter]

Them fighting off in space would sort of take away the theme of these movies.

[luca_frontino]

They haven't done Galactus in a motion picture anyway (DO NOT even say anything about Fantastic Four II)... so it wouldn't hurt to show a proper planet eater in motion.


Though I do like luca's idea about a sun eater. Though I don't see how any of the Transformers would battle anything on that scale. Too overwhelming.

I didn't say they would be able to fight him. That's Primus task.