Spidey-Bat's Fantasy Baseball League

[Spidey-Bat]

This will be the official thread for my league.

Superhero Hype League:
http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/league/superherohypeleague

League ID#: 4266
League Name: Superhero Hype

Settings: http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4504/shhob8.gif

CLOSED
Spidey-Bat (http://forums.superherohype.com/member.php?u=8131)
Dark Donnie (http://forums.superherohype.com/member.php?u=17098)
NewYorkSpider (http://forums.superherohype.com/member.php?u=40464)
Showtime (http://forums.superherohype.com/member.php?u=27914)
Superman79 (http://forums.superherohype.com/member.php?u=28204) (The S79 Red Sox)
EL ASESINO (http://forums.superherohype.com/member.php?u=42328) (Butterflies) BANNED
E. Nygma (http://forums.superherohype.com/member.php?u=63200) (Michael Jack Schmidt)
Kingfish (http://forums.superherohype.com/member.php?u=28204)
Jerry! (http://forums.superherohype.com/member.php?u=53231) (Team Rowsdower) BANNED
Captain Planet! (http://forums.superherohype.com/member.php?u=50543)
cyborg ninja 14 (http://forums.superherohype.com/member.php?u=7797) (Cy Ninja14)
steintym (http://forums.superherohype.com/member.php?u=50891) (Steintymers)
Dodger (http://forums.superherohype.com/member.php?u=21870) (Dodger Dogs)
The Apocalypse (http://forums.superherohype.com/member.php?u=31140) (apoc)
Crawdad1616 (http://forums.superherohype.com/member.php?u=64865) (Minot Why Nots)

[Spidey-Bat]

I forgot to send out everyone PM's to remind them the draft is today, so I'm changing the draft date to next week.

I'll also push it back later in the day since it might be easier for people to get there.

[sinewave]

why change the draft date by a whole week at the last second for something so trivial? it clearly states on the league's home page when the draft is taking place, so whoever joined should have no reason not to know. not only that, but now you're setting it to 6PM (CST) next sunday? with 16 teams drafting 25 positions, it's going to take about 4-5 hours to complete the draft. that'll end really late on a sunday night. at this point, i can only assume this was some poorly thought out plan to piss those of us off who had already set the whole afternoon aside so we'd quit the league to allow your buddies to join. well, guess what, it worked. i'm out. please remove me from the league.

[Captain Planet!]

It's fine with me.

[Spidey-Bat]

why change the draft date by a whole week at the last second for something so trivial? it clearly states on the league's home page when the draft is taking place, so whoever joined should have no reason not to know. not only that, but now you're setting it to 6PM (CST) next sunday? with 16 teams drafting 25 positions, it's going to take about 4-5 hours to complete the draft. that'll end really late on a sunday night. at this point, i can only assume this was some poorly thought out plan to piss those of us off who had already set the whole afternoon aside so we'd quit the league to allow your buddies to join. well, guess what, it worked. i'm out. please remove me from the league.

You and I chatted in PMs. If you want to leave, I won't stop you. If you change your mind you're welcome to re-join.

[Fran]

Wow, sinewave snapped.

[cyborg ninja 14]

R.I.P Sinewave's Sox:huh:

[Dodger]

Dam, it's just a simple change. No need to snap.

[Spidey-Bat]

This place seems dead today. Glad I changed it.

[Crawdad1616]

Hey, I'm new around here. I like baseball. I notice your fantasy team has 15 spots. Can I get number 16?

[Crawdad1616]

Double post, sorry.

[Spidey-Bat]

If you promise to be active in the league, I don't see why not. I'll PM you the ID and password.

[Crawdad1616]

Oh, don't worry. I live fantasy baseball. I'll be active.

[Superman79]

Welcome Crawdad.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j230/BoSoxSuperman/Misc/Newbie.png

:D

[Fran]

Hey, I'm new around here. I like baseball. I notice your fantasy team has 15 spots. Can I get number 16?

Welcome, friend of Spidey-Bat.

[Showtime]

I have to say when I saw Sinewave snap, I thought his theory was a little out there...

Now there is all of a sudden a newbie who just happened to sign up for The Hype and find out about a this thread who wants to join the baseball league...

Seems pretty obvious to me.

[Dodger]

Hey, I'm new around here. I like baseball. I notice your fantasy team has 15 spots. Can I get number 16?

Okay, maybe sinewave isn't crazy. Somethings fishy.

[Crawdad1616]

I don't know Spidey-Bat. I was just looking up stuff on The Dark Knight and found this site. I saw it also has a sports section and I'm a big baseball fan so I joined.

[Dodger]

I don't know Spidey-Bat. I was just looking up stuff on The Dark Knight and found this site. I saw it also has a sports section and I'm a big baseball fan so I joined.

Well, dude unfortunately your a victim of bad timing.

What team do you root for?

[Crawdad1616]

Well, dude unfortunately your a victim of bad timing.

What team do you root for?

Seems to be the case.

I'm a Tigers fan.

[Kingfish]

interesting turn of events.

pretty lame to suddenly change the draft day by a week at the very last moment for something that most of us didn't care about at all. but whatever, its not as big a deal to me as it was to sinewave.

[Fran]

Seems to be the case.

I'm a Tigers fan.

WELCOME!!!

I apologize for insinuating you were SB's friend.

GO TIGERS!

[cyborg ninja 14]

Crawdad seems to use english, grammer, punctuation ect. better than sinewave. Although, what a turn of events.

[Fran]

He is welcomed with open arms :yay:

[Spidey-Bat]

pretty lame to suddenly change the draft day by a week at the very last moment for something that most of us didn't care about at all. but whatever, its not as big a deal to me as it was to sinewave.

A draft with only half of the people there would have been even more lame.

[Showtime]

I don't buy the whole Craw Dad situation, but I don't really care, or do I?

[Kingfish]

A draft with only half of the people there would have been even more lame.

indeed, but did you even bother to see who was online at the time? personally, i didn't get on until half an hour beforehand. and a pm from you the night before wouldn't have changed that. i got my reminder from yahoo days ago.

I don't buy the whole Craw Dad situation, but I don't really care, or do I?

sums up my feelings on the matter perfectly.

[Spidey-Bat]

indeed, but did you even bother to see who was online at the time? personally, i didn't get on until half an hour beforehand. and a pm from you the night before wouldn't have changed that. i got my reminder from yahoo days ago.
Not everyone checks their email though.

[Kingfish]

Not everyone checks their email though.

while that is true, more people check their e-mail than their superhero hype pm folder.

whatever, this is pointless. you decided to postpone it, which is obviously your choice. there is also no way you could have accurately predicted someone would be pissed off enough to drop out, so i dont really buy that you planned that sort of thing out.

just an unfortunate combination of events i guess.

heaven forbid you and crawdad make an unbalanced trade at some point though...

[sinewave]

Crawdad seems to use english, grammer, punctuation ect. better than sinewave. Although, what a turn of events.

say what you want about me, but don't you dare attack my grammar! :cmad:

look, this isn't a big deal. sorry if i blew things out of proportion. i wasn't too jazzed about playing in a 16-team league anyway and i was considering dropping out since spidey asked me to so one of his friends could join. i wouldn't have been able to make the draft this weekend, anyway. have fun with the league. i'll see some of you in badger's league.

[steintym]

I'm assuming everyone (or most) will be able to actually make the draft. It makes it a lot more entertaining and it moves along better with everyone there.

Looking forward to it.

[Jerry!]

Didn't see this thread. Sinewave....HE GONE!!

As for the draft, I might not be able to do it either, guess it just auto drafts the best player availiable then. Bunch of bull**** if you ask me, but whatever.

[Fran]

Just pre-rank your players if you can't make it.

[Jerry!]

In the end, I just don't care that much about it either way.

[Fran]

:up:

[Spidey-Bat]

Any guesses who the first overall pick will be?

[Fran]

Alex Rodriguez.

WAIT, you want the answer to be Johan Santana.

[Kingfish]

depends who picks first.

alot of people will just take a-rod first.

i'll take an outside shot in the dark and say hanley though.

[Spidey-Bat]

Alex Rodriguez.

WAIT, you want the answer to be Johan Santana.

Seriously, drop this "OMG you're such a cocky homer!" thing. It's really stupid not to mention inaccurate.

[Fran]

I was being honest, I thought you'd say that. Or were at least insinuating.

[Spidey-Bat]

I was being honest, I thought you'd say that. Or were at least insinuating.

I was only asking for peoples' opinions.

Unless I knew Santana was going to have a Bob Gibson type season, I wouldn't draft him first overall.

It works both ways, one could say your ace would get more quality starts

Except you're limiting his number of starts thus chances of quality starts. If a guy like Santana can make 32 starts in a 5-man rotation but only 27 in a 6-man rotation, that's 5 fewer games where you aren't using your best pitcher and could lose a playoff spot because of it.

[Jerry!]

I swear, if I am able to do the draft, and I get the first pick......Scott Podsednik.

[steintym]

depends who picks first.

alot of people will just take a-rod first.

i'll take an outside shot in the dark and say hanley though.

I'd go with A-Rod first, but Hanley is not a bad pick. I'd have him rated right at the top.

[The Apocalypse]

Someone dropped out..it says we only have 15 instead of 16...

[Jerry!]

Sinewave.

[steintym]

Wasn't Crawdad supposed to be joining in place of Sinewave. Are we going to be short one team?

[Spidey-Bat]

He joined. I've been too lazy to add his name on my main post. I'll get around to it.

[steintym]

He joined. I've been too lazy to add his name on my main post. I'll get around to it.

:up: Cool

I was also too lazy to just double check Yahoo :woot:

[Spidey-Bat]

Draft tomorrow at 2:30pm. Anyone object if I made it 2pm instead?

[steintym]

Either time works for me.

[Kingfish]

fine by me.

[Spidey-Bat]

Anyone else object to an earlier start?

[Spidey-Bat]

PM'd you all reminders.

[NewYorkSpider]

2:00 is fine for me.

[Spidey-Bat]

Good to hear. I had a draft today and my team is awesome.

[NewYorkSpider]

Who's on your team?

[Spidey-Bat]

Hitters: Brian McCann, Prince Fielder, Ian Kinsler, Hanley Ramirez, Mark Reynolds, Grady Sizemore, Raul Ibanez, Delmon Young, Ryan Garko, Jay Bruce, Joey Votto, Evan Longoria, and Casey Kotchman.

Pitchers: Johan Santana, Felix Hernandez, Chad Billingsley, Yovani Gallardo, Greg Maddux, Jon Garland, Billy Wagner, Joe Borowski, Pat Neshek, Kerry Wood, and Peter Moylan.

I traded Matt Cain, Homer Bailey, and Jhonny Peralta for Hanley Ramirez and Yovani Gallardo (guy was desperate for pitching). I traded Kurt Suzuki for Casey Kotchman (guy needed a C really bad and had Pujols). Traded Josh Beckett and Jonathan Papelbon for Johan Santana and Billy Wagner (guy was a Red Sox homer so I took advantage of that). I picked up Garland on FA's. I'm trying to get Chris Young (the OF) from the Red Sox homer.

[NewYorkSpider]

That's a pretty good lineup. I can't wait for tomorrows draft.

How much time do we have between picks to choose are player?

[Kingfish]

according to the league homepage there are only 15 teams. has spidey-bat's friend crawdad just not been added or what? i bring it up because bye-weeks suck ass.

[Jerry!]

I figure he is or will be since this whole delay was for him really. I still might not be able to make the draft, but I pre-ranked the players, and hoo boy, if I get the guys I want, this draft is going to be a barn burner for me.

[Showtime]

I believe the league isn't allowed to draft if there isn't an even number of teams right?

[Spidey-Bat]

Fran is gone for some reason. I definitely didn't kick him out.

I pm'd Fat_Tonie since I know he posts in the MLB thread and he's the only guy on right now. If he says no, anyone want to volunteer to leave? I'd give up my spot in Badger's league if you're not already registered there.

[FaT_tONle]

Yo did someonelse join I can't get in?

[Spidey-Bat]

It shows you on the list. Want me to remove you and you can try again?

[FaT_tONle]

Yeah I thought I'd be better to use my SHH ID... take me out of there and I'll sign back in

[Spidey-Bat]

Removed you. Try again.

[FaT_tONle]

Iight I'm in... thanks.

[Spidey-Bat]

Thanks. Avoided that disaster.

[Showtime]

I lied.

[Captain Planet!]

I was without a computer for 2 days, so what happens now?

[Spidey-Bat]

Let the trading commence!

[FaT_tONle]

Looking for some power pitching... work horse type starter or another second tier closer as well... or a big time out fielder.... if anyone interested let me know... shopping around Pena if anyone needs more power at 1st base...

[Jerry!]

Overall this draft was a sucess. Sure I missed a few players, but then again, seeing Spidey Bat threaten to remove me was hilarious.

[Spidey-Bat]

You deserve to be removed for drafting only 2005 White Sox players.

[Jerry!]

Some of them are 2007 and 2008 players. I was just having fun. What does it matter to you anyway? Besides, it seems like you disagreed with like every other pick there was in the draft anyway.

"So and so selects so and so"
Spidey-Bat: Oh he sucks.

"So and so selects..."

Spidey Bat: Ugh, horrible pick.

And on and on and on throughout the entire draft.

[Spidey-Bat]

Actually I didn't. I said it a couple times but that was it.

[The Apocalypse]

I'm looking to deal C.C. if anyone wants him.

[Spidey-Bat]

I'm shopping Geovany Soto. Looking for a guy with some good SB numbers (15-20).

[Jerry!]

What is the Can't Cut List?

[NewYorkSpider]

Do you honestly believe I'm gonna accept that trade Jerry?

[Spidey-Bat]

What is the trade?

What is the Can't Cut List?

You can't drop that player. We don't have that.

[NewYorkSpider]

What is the trade?


Rob Mackowiak for Aaron Rowand.

[Jerry!]

I can't really trade anyone else for him though. Unless you want Darin Erstad, but right now I am trying to trade him for Dye. Do you think Rowand is going to do well in San Franciso?

[Spidey-Bat]

Jerry, you're a tool.

[NewYorkSpider]

I can't really trade anyone else for him though. Unless you want Darin Erstad, but right now I am trying to trade him for Dye. Do you think Rowand is going to do well in San Franciso?

He'll be better than Mackowiak.

[FaT_tONle]

I'll give you Cabrera for a power pitcher Jerry

[Jerry!]

Cabrera wasn't on the team though. And Spidey, you're missing the point, I really don't care. I figure I might as well try.

[FaT_tONle]

Oh last years team... nm...

[Spidey-Bat]

Fat Tonie, I might be interested in Cabrera.

[Dodger]

I'm looking to deal C.C. if anyone wants him.

hmmm...what are you looking for dude?

[Dodger]

I'm shopping Geovany Soto. Looking for a guy with some good SB numbers (15-20).

Throw in martin and I'll give you reyes. lol :p

[FaT_tONle]

Yeah and your gonna give me who (Spidey-Bat).... Juan John Pablo? Seriously you are going to give me this scouting report of a guy I never even heard of, that only you know about and try to spin some mad theory about how he will be the next Albert Pujols... so its all good... I was just kidding... wasn't planning on dealing Cabrera... I need the SB's...

[Spidey-Bat]

Throw in martin and I'll give you reyes. lol :p

Martin for Upton?

Yeah and your gonna give me who (Spidey-Bat).... Juan John Pablo? Seriously you are going to give me this scouting report of a guy I never even heard of, that only you know about and try to spin some mad theory about how he will be the next Albert Pujols... so its all good... I was just kidding... wasn't planning on dealing Cabrera... I need the SB's...

You needed power pitchers. I consider some of the pitchers I have to be power pitchers.

[Dodger]

Martin for Upton?

seriously?

[Captain Planet!]

I'm looking to trade Miguel Tejada, any takers?


I'm also willing to trade Johnny Damon.

[Spidey-Bat]

seriously?

I'd do it but I want to think it over a little more.

[The Apocalypse]

hmmm...what are you looking for dude?

a good OF and a so-so SP

[Fran]

Sorry, joined a keeper league and that's a lot of time and effort.

[Spidey-Bat]

Sorry, joined a keeper league and that's a lot of time and effort.

So you did mean to leave this league?

[Kingfish]

wow, thanks for actually, you know, telling us Fran.

[Dodger]

I'd do it but I want to think it over a little more.

alright. take your time you know were to find me.

a good OF and a so-so SP

Alright. I'll send you a proposal dude.

[Captain Planet!]

a good OF and a so-so SP
Here are some players I have

Brad Hawpe
Johnny Damon
Miguel Tejada (not an OF, but I want to get rid of him)
A.J. Burnett
Henry Owens

[Kingfish]

sent you an offer apoc.


i'm interested in upgrading at first, if anyone wants to come up with a deal.

[Captain Planet!]

Butterflies, you have a trade offer.

[NewYorkSpider]

So, who has the best looking team?

[Dodger]

apoc. sent you an offer hopes it what your looking for. let me know man.

[Dodger]

Jerry. He's going to win the whole thing!



If this was 2005. :p

[FaT_tONle]

Damn my team sucks ass... shopping for starting pitching and a big time outfielder... don't mention crap names like Damon and Hawpe... anyone willing to deal players that can actually help other teams?

[Spidey-Bat]

So, who has the best looking team?

Me does.

[Showtime]

I have Victorino!

[NewYorkSpider]

Me does.

I like the way my team looks. Little worried about the Marlin players I drafted. Not sure how they'll perform without Cabrera in the lineup.

[Spidey-Bat]

apoc, sent you an offer for Sabathia.

[El ASESINO]

Butterflies, you have a trade offer.

Ok I'll see


I have a good team, could use another pitcher but other tahn that I have a good team

[Dodger]

Pleasure doing business with ya Spidey-Bat. I got my guy and Moylan looks solid.


Kingfish, dude. I just couldn't do Sanchez for Percival. However, I am looking for a 2nd Baseman.

[Kingfish]

Kingfish, dude. I just couldn't do Sanchez for Percival. However, I am looking for a 2nd Baseman.

alright thats cool. honestly looking at your pitchers i figured you punted saves anyway. too bad i don't have any dodgers to offer :cwink:

[Dodger]

alright thats cool. honestly looking at your pitchers i figured you punted saves anyway. too bad i don't have any dodgers to offer :cwink:

Yeah I did play homerism....first draft. lesson learned..

[FaT_tONle]

Is there any interest for Oliver Perez or Daiske? I am willing to deal those guys if there are buyers...

[Superman79]

I MIGHT be willing to do something for Dice-K...emphaisis on MIGHT...

I'm actually fairly happy with my team, other than having to get Paul Lo Duca and Felipe Lopez :csad:

[Showtime]

I do need an upgrade at catcher, but Lo Duca is deflated.

[Superman79]

I know :csad:

[FaT_tONle]

Yo Captain... check your trade proposal... I heard you were interested in getting rid of Hawpe... I offered you Pena... also willing to throw Jose Guillen in there if its not enough... orcourse the price is gonna go up if thats the case...

[Captain Planet!]

Yo Captain... check your trade proposal... I heard you were interested in getting rid of Hawpe... I offered you Pena... also willing to throw Jose Guillen in there if its not enough... orcourse the price is gonna go up if thats the case...
I accepted.

[cyborg ninja 14]

Anyone need a Curtis Granderson or Scott Kazmir?

[Spidey-Bat]

If anyone needs OFs, I'm pretty loaded. Have Grady Sizemore, BJ Upton, Chris Young, Delmon Young, Jay Bruce, and Josh Fields.

[cyborg ninja 14]

How about Hideki Matsui for Sizemore:cwink:

[Dodger]

If anyone needs OFs, I'm pretty loaded. Have Grady Sizemore, BJ Upton, Chris Young, Delmon Young, Jay Bruce, and Josh Fields.

Hmmm...I know I'm being a homer by grabbing Kemp but if that deal falls through I'm caontacing you.


Anyone need a Curtis Granderson or Scott Kazmir?

What'cha ya looking for dude. I'm intrested in both.

[Jerry!]

So what's the deal with some players not being availiable at all?

[Dodger]

If anyone is needing some pitching I'm willing to unload D.Lowe and Suppan for an outfielder with a power bat.

[cyborg ninja 14]

What'cha ya looking for dude. I'm intrested in both.

Nothing you have really. I intend on keeping Kazmir unless someone blows me away with an offer I can't refuse

[steintym]

A couple of you have mentioned upgrading SB. I'd be willing to move Juan Pierre. If you're interested, send me a proposal. I'm most interested in a starting pitcher. I'd be willing to add to Pierre for a real solid SP.

[FaT_tONle]

If anyone needs OFs, I'm pretty loaded. Have Grady Sizemore, BJ Upton, Chris Young, Delmon Young, Jay Bruce, and Josh Fields.

What do you need for Upton?

[FaT_tONle]

A couple of you have mentioned upgrading SB. I'd be willing to move Juan Pierre. If you're interested, send me a proposal. I'm most interested in a starting pitcher. I'd be willing to add to Pierre for a real solid SP.

Lemme get him... you need starters? Power outfielder?

[Spidey-Bat]

What do you need for Upton?

You don't have anything that interests me.

[FaT_tONle]

Iight be like that...

[steintym]

Lemme get him... you need starters? Power outfielder?

I'll take a look at your roster. If there's a deal that you think makes sense shoot me an offer.

[NewYorkSpider]

Cyborg, look at my roster and see if you want anybody for Granderson. I need a guy who can steal bases.

Spidey-Bat, give me some time to think about that trade. I'm not to sure if I want to give those two up.

[Captain Planet!]

I'm looking for a closer.

[Spidey-Bat]

Spidey-Bat, give me some time to think about that trade. I'm not to sure if I want to give those two up.

I sent you a 2nd offer to choose from. Might be more to your liking.

[FaT_tONle]

I'll take a look at your roster. If there's a deal that you think makes sense shoot me an offer.

Looking for an upgrade at second base... I'll trade an outfielder (not Hawpe though) for I guy like Aaron Hill

[cyborg ninja 14]

Cyborg, look at my roster and see if you want anybody for Granderson. I need a guy who can steal bases.



I wouldnt mind Victor Martinez or Helton:o

[steintym]

Looking for an upgrade at second base... I'll trade an outfielder (not Hawpe though) for I guy like Aaron Hill

I'll take a look. Probably get back with you or shoot you an offer tomorrow.

[FaT_tONle]

Any buyers for A-Rod... looking for the Beltran type and a number 2 type starter...

[NewYorkSpider]

I sent you a 2nd offer to choose from. Might be more to your liking.

Is Willits even going to start?


I wouldnt mind Victor Martinez or Helton:o

Send me an offer and I'll see. I'd rather give up Helton.

[Captain Planet!]

I've made 2 trades, but my roster hasn't been updated... Is that normal?

[FaT_tONle]

check Tuesday...

[Spidey-Bat]

Is Willits even going to start?

Maybe not immediately but he will. Matthews blows and Anderson will probably be injured.

[NewYorkSpider]

Maybe not immediately but he will. Matthews blows and Anderson will probably be injured.

I might be making a deal with Cyborg. I'll get back to you.

Jerry, I'm gonna politely say no to your trade offer.

[Spidey-Bat]

I might be making a deal with Cyborg. I'll get back to you.

I combined my original offers.

[NewYorkSpider]

I combined my original offers.

Damn you for putting me in a situation! I think I have a good deal in place with Cyborg for Curtis Granderson. If he doesn't like what he sees then I'll consider that offer. Just be patient.

At least your offers are better than Jerry's.

[Spidey-Bat]

Sent you a new proposal.

[NewYorkSpider]

I don't know if I'm gonna trade Victor or not.

[Spidey-Bat]

Think about it.

[El ASESINO]

I'm looking for a pitcher

[El ASESINO]

If anyone is needing some pitching I'm willing to unload D.Lowe and Suppan for an outfielder with a power bat.

I send you a trade proposal

[Kingfish]

Maybe not immediately but he will. Matthews blows and Anderson will probably be injured.

i wouldn't buy that NYS. even if one of those things does happen juan rivera is more likely to start then willits. much as i like the guy, reggie has pinch runner written all over him this season.

still interested in a deal for a power hitting first baseman. any of my outfielders might be available in the right deal.

[NewYorkSpider]

i wouldn't buy that NYS. even if one of those things does happen juan rivera is more likely to start then willits. much as i like the guy, reggie has pinch runner written all over him this season.

That's what I'm pretty much thinking.

[Spidey-Bat]

i wouldn't buy that NYS. even if one of those things does happen juan rivera is more likely to start then willits. much as i like the guy, reggie has pinch runner written all over him this season.

Juan Rivera? The guy who was out from April to early September. Willits is going to have more playing time than him. And Matthews will lose his job very soon since he blows...hard. Anderson is old and injury prone. Vlad is becoming that, too. Willits is going have the same amount of playing time as last year.

That's what I'm pretty much thinking.

Mike Scioscia loves small ball. Willits is a small ball player. He's going to be more than a pinch runner. Especially with an OF full of ailing, old veterans.

I'm also offering you one everyday player and one who will likely win the everyday position in ST (his "competition" is a platoon OF/pinch runner).

[FaT_tONle]

I'll take a look. Probably get back with you or shoot you an offer tomorrow.

Just in case you check here before you check your team... I got some power guys in the outfield... no All-Star material... but sloppy 25 90 guys if you can use that type... looking for some help at SP.... I really can't use Juan Pierre unless I move Taveras... which I don't want to do at the moment...

[Kingfish]

Juan Rivera? The guy who was out from April to early September. Willits is going to have more playing time than him. And Matthews will lose his job very soon since he blows...hard. Anderson is old and injury prone. Vlad is becoming that, too. Willits is going have the same amount of playing time as last year.

the thing you're overlooking is that the angels lineup is already full of small ball players. figgins/matthews/hunter/izturis/aybar/kendrick to an extent. good for you to think matthews blows. he's still not losing his job for a long time. and if anderson gets hurt? they'll need power. thats why rivera would start ahead of willits.

whatever, it's not like i'm even involved in this trade. just a friendly warning NYS, don't let spidey sucker you with a one category player that will be lucky to get half the number of at-bats he got last season.

[Spidey-Bat]

the thing you're overlooking is that the angels lineup is already full of small ball players. figgins/matthews/hunter/izturis/aybar/kendrick to an extent. good for you to think matthews blows. he's still not losing his job for a long time. and if anderson gets hurt? they'll need power. thats why rivera would start ahead of willits.
Hunter is a small ball player? The west coast must really be another planet. Hunter is a 260-270 hitter who will hit 25 HR, 30 at most if he's lucky. Matthews is a declining OF. Right now, he's so-so and barely better than Willits, if at all. He is no great threat on Willits' playing time. Izturis and Aybar are infielders and have nothing to do with Willits. Even if they were OF, Willits is the superior player. You're right, they need power. That's where Casey Kotchman comes in.

whatever, it's not like i'm even involved in this trade. just a friendly warning NYS, don't let spidey sucker you with a one category player that will be lucky to get half the number of at-bats he got last season.
One category? I guess that .293 BA and .390 OBP don't really count, huh? You're severely underrating him. First time I've ever seen a fan underrate a good, young player on his own team.

[Dodger]

I send you a trade proposal

Had to decline friend. Bradley for Reyes? C'mon bra your going to have to give me more than that. I'm willing to work out a deal with any of my players except Martin.

[Kingfish]

Hunter is a small ball player? The west coast must really be another planet. Hunter is a 260-270 hitter who will hit 25 HR, 30 at most if he's lucky. Matthews is a declining OF. Right now, he's so-so and barely better than Willits, if at all. He is no great threat on Willits' playing time. Izturis and Aybar are infielders and have nothing to do with Willits. Even if they were OF, Willits is the superior player. You're right, they need power. That's where Casey Kotchman comes in.


One category? I guess that .293 BA and .390 OBP don't really count, huh? You're severely underrating him. First time I've ever seen a fan underrate a good, young player on his own team.

hunter isn't the biggest small ball player in the world but he still knows how to steal a base and lay down a bunt. he'll do more of both this season. the only point i was even trying to make by naming the other players was to demonstrate that the lineup already has a number of small ball players. if they lose anderson for any extended time, i'm confident they will choose rivera's power over willits. matthews is better than willits, particularly at fantasy. 10 fewer stolen bases and 20 more homeruns. i appreciate your opinions of him, i've shared them at times, but in this case you're wrong. as for kotchman providing power, thats just not his game. at this point in his career he should hit 12-15.

and as i said, i really like willits as a player. he is a major league starter, but not on the angels right now. i don't undervalue him, my opinions are based on the amount of playing time he'll recieve. you can't have that kind of value getting 8 ABs a week. his one category will be steals since he'll be running for anderson, kotchman, and napoli quite a bit. also, it's worth noting that he had surgery last month to remove his gall bladder. that makes me hesitant about him as well.

and funny, this isn't the first time i've seen someone over-value a player they're trying to trade, so i guess we're even.

[Spidey-Bat]

hunter isn't the biggest small ball player in the world but he still knows how to steal a base and lay down a bunt. he'll do more of both this season.
He'll do more stealing and bunting? Why? You already have admitted the Angels' lineup has small ball hitters. His role now is going to be to drive those runs in.

the only point i was even trying to make by naming the other players was to demonstrate that the lineup already has a number of small ball players. if they lose anderson for any extended time, i'm confident they will choose rivera's power over willits.
Even though Rivera played 14 games and had 43 ABs while Reggie Willits proved he can put up a productive 430 AB season?

matthews is better than willits, particularly at fantasy. 10 fewer stolen bases and 20 more homeruns.
Ok, Matthews won HR last year while Willits only won BA, OBP, and SB. You're right. What was I thinking Willits was a better player?

If you're not convinced, I'll break it down even more.

i appreciate your opinions of him, i've shared them at times, but in this case you're wrong. as for kotchman providing power, thats just not his game. at this point in his career he should hit 12-15.
Many believe Kotchman will have a breakout year.

and as i said, i really like willits as a player. he is a major league starter, but not on the angels right now. i don't undervalue him, my opinions are based on the amount of playing time he'll recieve. you can't have that kind of value getting 8 ABs a week.
Willits will be getting more than 8 ABs a week. You honestly think Matthews is going to be good enough to steal his playing time?

his one category will be steals since he'll be running for anderson, kotchman, and napoli quite a bit.
And BA, OBP, hits, and runs.

and funny, this isn't the first time i've seen someone over-value a player they're trying to trade, so i guess we're even.
Willits is considered a sleeper.

[Kingfish]

*see below

[Showtime]

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh294/bigmikek7/Duquette.jpg

[Kingfish]

Showtime has reignited the spirit of competition within me. Back to the pointless debate about a trade I have nothing to do with.

He'll do more stealing and bunting? Why? You already have admitted the Angels' lineup has small ball hitters. His role now is going to be to drive those runs in.

For the exact reason you stated earlier. Because he plays for Mike Scioscia now. Being able to bunt and steal are big parts of the line-up and have been for years. It's really the entire reason they signed him. Because he can play Mike Scioscia baseball.

Even though Rivera played 14 games and had 43 ABs while Reggie Willits proved he can put up a productive 430 AB season?

And Rivera has proven in an almost identical amount of ABs that he can hit 20+ homeruns and drive in 80. He hasn't lost those skills. The ABs he had at the end of last year showed he could still hit.

Ok, Matthews won HR last year while Willits only won BA, OBP, and SB. You're right. What was I thinking Willits was a better player?

Matthews also had 40 more RBIs. The point is Matthews is a better run producer. And he clearly will be this year since he'll be batting second in front of Vlad. He was miscast hitting fifth. I know you think he'll lose his job and I've already told you he won't. Combine that with better health and he'll improve on those numbers. Sadly Willits won't. If someone gets hurt, he'll at best be in a platoon with Rivera. If not, he'll start maybe once a week and pinch-run.

If you're not convinced, I'll break it down even more.

I really wish you wouldn't. I've already stated I like Willits as a player and I wish he was a starter. He probably will be when Anderson walks after this season. The point is, with the current situation and players the Angels have he won't get the same playing time he did last year. For that reason, I am stating that Matthews is a better fantasy option right now. And I really don't care how much you swear Matthews sucks and will lose his job.

Many believe Kotchman will have a breakout year.

I also happen to be one of those people. It's just not with HRs. Casey isn't a power hitter, he's a doubles hitter. If he can stay healthy, he'll put up great run production numbers, maybe even drive in 100, but I still don't see him hitting more than 15 bombs.

Willits will be getting more than 8 ABs a week. You honestly think Matthews is going to be good enough to steal his playing time?

Since when is it Willits playing time to steal? The only reason Reggie got to start last year was because of injuries to Anderson. He's a one year player going up against a vet with 4 years left on his contract. I'm also somewhat concerned about the surgery Willits had last month. Matthews won't be used as a bench player. The most likely scenario is Willits plays part time this year and becomes a starter again next season when Anderson walks and Guererro becomes the DH.

And BA, OBP, hits, and runs.

I've covered this enough. He can be helpful in those categories if he starts. Only problem is he isn't starting. With the playing time he'll get, steals will be the only thing he can really help with.

Willits is considered a sleeper.

Good for Reggie. To be where he is after being a nothing before last season is awesome. But unless he gets traded this spring, he won't be that helpful to a fantasy team.

Again I love Willits as a player. His intensity and heart are fantastic. He reminds me alot of Darin Erstad with those intangibles. His situation immediately began to suck when Hunter was signed. I just hope he continues to do what he can do until the time he becomes a full-time starter again. Which sadly won't be soon.

[Kingfish]

dodger, what would you be looking for as far as percival goes? i could use another closer.

[NewYorkSpider]

Kingfish, you don't need to argue with him anymore. I declined his trade. I decided that I'm not trading Victor Martinez. I'm not taking anymore trade offers from anyone. I like my team the way it is.

[Jerry!]

So if certian players are unavailiable right now in the league, but become availiable later for whatever reason, coming off injury, etc, will they be added to the free agent list or something? Certain players like Scott Podsednik and Freddy Garcia.

[Showtime]

dodger, what would you be looking for as far as percival goes? i could use another closer.

I could use A closer. :csad:

[Showtime]

Showtime has reignited the spirit of competition within me. Back to the pointless debate about a trade I have nothing to do with.

Duquette has that effect on people.

[Captain Planet!]

Is anyone willing to trade a closer??

[Showtime]

Does everybody need a closer?

[Captain Planet!]

Does everybody need a closer?
I don't know. But the most saves a player has on my team is 6... so I need a closer really badly.

[Spidey-Bat]

Kingfish, I'll reply later today.

I could use A closer. :csad:

I have 3 closers, 2 others capable of picking up some saves.

[Superman79]

Does everybody need a closer?

Nah, I took care of that one in my 3rd pick

:Paps::heart:

[Showtime]

Ouch. He's probably going to miss about 2 months. That sucks.

[Superman79]

Huh? Gammons was just saying on Sunday that he'd be ready to go come Apr1??

:huh:

[Showtime]

HAHA

Just messing.

[Dark Donnie]

Someone give me a closer...

[Superman79]

HAHA

Just messing.

:csad:

[Dodger]

dodger, what would you be looking for as far as percival goes? i could use another closer.

Someone give me a closer...

Sent you both a proposal.

[Kingfish]

Accepted. Thanks Dodger.

Kingfish, I'll reply later today.

I have 3 closers, 2 others capable of picking up some saves.

Looking forward to it I guess. But who do you consider your third closer?

[Showtime]

:csad:

Love?

[steintym]

Just in case you check here before you check your team... I got some power guys in the outfield... no All-Star material... but sloppy 25 90 guys if you can use that type... looking for some help at SP.... I really can't use Juan Pierre unless I move Taveras... which I don't want to do at the moment...

I was looking at possibly moving Pierre and wasn't really looking to move anyone else right now, but I'll check out your proposal and roster. See if we can work something out.

[Captain Planet!]

Someone give me a closer...
I asked first... :csad:

[Superman79]

Love?

aw...I can't stay mad at you.

[Spidey-Bat]

Looking forward to it I guess. But who do you consider your third closer?
Joey Devine. He was traded from the Braves to the A's for Mark Kotsay. Huston Street may not start out as the close since he was out a lot last year. Plus Street will likely be traded. Neshek will pick up some saves and may even be the full time closer if Nathan is traded. Rafael Perez will probably pick up some saves as well.

[steintym]

Just in case you check here before you check your team... I got some power guys in the outfield... no All-Star material... but sloppy 25 90 guys if you can use that type... looking for some help at SP.... I really can't use Juan Pierre unless I move Taveras... which I don't want to do at the moment...

I'm going to hold off for now. Not really looking to move the guys you were looking at. I'll keep the offer in mind, though. :up:

[Showtime]

Wow nobody has a closer?

[Dodger]

Accepted. Thanks Dodger.


Pleasure doing buisness with ya :)

[Dark Donnie]

Is The Nationals stadium going to be done by opening day?

[Spidey-Bat]

It's already done.

[El ASESINO]

Wow nobody has a closer?

I have Joakim Soria who might be the Royals closer. If you want him lets talk

[FaT_tONle]

I'm going to hold off for now. Not really looking to move the guys you were looking at. I'll keep the offer in mind, though. :up:

I can shop Guillen and maybe another power guy for Hill and Pierre as well... can't move both Bay and Guillen though...

[Showtime]

I have Joakim Soria who might be the Royals closer. If you want him lets talk

Let me look into him.

What are you looking for?

[steintym]

I can shop Guillen and maybe another power guy for Hill and Pierre as well... can't move both Bay and Guillen though...

I just accepted your last offer. Pleasure working this one out with you. If I decide to make a move with Hill, I'll keep you in mind in the future.

[Captain Planet!]

I took care of my closer problem by getting David Weathers. :up:

[Showtime]

I thought he wasn't closing this season?

[Showtime]

aw...I can't stay mad at you.

Loovvvee.

[Kingfish]

I took care of my closer problem by getting David Weathers. :up:

the signing of cordero pretty much means that weathers ain't closing this year.

[FaT_tONle]

I just accepted your last offer. Pleasure working this one out with you. If I decide to make a move with Hill, I'll keep you in mind in the future.

I'm losing all my chips here dealing with you guys... lemme know if you want to unload Hill... I just need some upgrades with the pitching staff... a closer... anything... maybe Young is too much... but I'll consider increasing the offer if there is something you are interested in...

[Captain Planet!]

the signing of cordero pretty much means that weathers ain't closing this year.
Well... looks like my problem isn't solved.

[FaT_tONle]

Didn't you read the little bio on Weathers? Just keep yourself focused on the *****ty teams all year... they got new guys closing every week... except their ERA's are around 7.93 ish...

[cyborg ninja 14]

the signing of cordero pretty much means that weathers ain't closing this year.

I was just gonna say, cause I have Cordero:up: Captain Planet needs help...

[Captain Planet!]

I was just gonna say, cause I have Cordero:up: Captain Planet needs help...
Mental help. :csad:

[cyborg ninja 14]

Mental help. :csad:

Ok, I was gonna suggest Al Reyes, but Percival is closing in TB I guess.

[Kingfish]

set-up man. percival is their new closer.

[cyborg ninja 14]

set-up man. percival is their new closer.

Yeah, I tried:csad: Are there no closers left in FA?

[Showtime]

I don't have one either, you'll live, just make sure you win in other categories.

[cyborg ninja 14]

I don't have one either, you'll live, just make sure you win in other categories.

I meant, I tried to find a closer for you, and couldnt. I have Francisco Cordero.

[Kingfish]

many players consider saves a puntable category anyway as long as you make up for it in other stats. there are no definate closers left in the FA pool, just gambles on players becoming closers.

[Kingfish]

Joey Devine. He was traded from the Braves to the A's for Mark Kotsay. Huston Street may not start out as the close since he was out a lot last year. Plus Street will likely be traded. Neshek will pick up some saves and may even be the full time closer if Nathan is traded. Rafael Perez will probably pick up some saves as well.

If you say so. It's not like Street was hurt at the end of the season, he was back throwing strong. Highly unlikely he'll be traded this season either, since he only makes 3 million and is still in his arbitration years i believe. Beane would have to get a monster return to trade him. Plus Devine hasn't even thrown 20 innings in the big leagues so I doubt they'll just hand him the job. He's behind Foulke and Embree on the depth chart anyway.

[Spidey-Bat]

Beane is obviously in rebuilding mode. Since relievers are more often traded at the deadline, it's not unlikely for Street to be traded. Would not be surprised if a prospect-rich team trades for Street.

Like stole bases, Beane finds saves to be overrated. He's always believed in "selling the closer".

And Devine will be 2nd to close very shortly. Foulke has virtually nothing left and Embree is bad.

[Kingfish]

So Street will be traded at the deadline? How does that make Devine a closer?

[Showtime]

I meant, I tried to find a closer for you, and couldnt. I have Francisco Cordero.

Oh. My bad. :csad:

Thanks for checking. :yay:

I have been going over and over the list of FA, but I think i'll be ok. :applaud

[Spidey-Bat]

So Street will be traded at the deadline? How does that make Devine a closer?

It's a possibility. If he was, you need someone to close. Devine is their long term solution. Only makes sense for him to replace Street.

[Kingfish]

All i know is you said you had 3 closers, i asked who your third closer was and you said Devine. Who (as always barring injury) wouldn't become the closer until more than likely the trading deadline, and that's assuming that they do in fact trade Street, which isn't too likely since Beane would ask for the moon for him.

Hmmmmmm. Seems to me like you have 2 closers.

[FaT_tONle]

He's a sneaky one that Spidey-Bat...

[Spidey-Bat]

All i know is you said you had 3 closers, i asked who your third closer was and you said Devine. Who (as always barring injury) wouldn't become the closer until more than likely the trading deadline, and that's assuming that they do in fact trade Street, which isn't too likely since Beane would ask for the moon for him.

Hmmmmmm. Seems to me like you have 2 closers.

Ok. I have 2 guaranteed closers, 2 possible closers after the deadline, and 1 reliever who is likely to pick up a couple saves during the season. Happy now?

[Kingfish]

Very. :applaud

[Spidey-Bat]

No one will beat me in the saves category :o

[Kingfish]

I'll believe it when I see it.

[El ASESINO]

No one will beat me in the saves category :o

maybe, maybe not

[FaT_tONle]

Spidey Bat is going to get his ass handed to him so bad in his own league that he will have to edit the results :o ...

[Showtime]

I have no closers and I don't really care at this point.

[cyborg ninja 14]

Oh. My bad. :csad:

Thanks for checking. :yay:

I have been going over and over the list of FA, but I think i'll be ok. :applaud

Anytime.

[Showtime]

Dodgers. Check your account.

[NewYorkSpider]

Do we get Stattracker all season or is it just for this week? In fantasy football you got it for only two days, then you had to pay for it.

[Spidey-Bat]

We have it until the 13th.

[NewYorkSpider]

I'm getting killed right now. :csad:

[Kingfish]

Yeah, well, I have Pedro and Gagne. Don't I feel great about my pitching.

[NewYorkSpider]

I knew from the start I wasn't going to draft Gagne. Pedro on the other hand I would have drafted.

I have Lackey. I hope he can return healthy.

[Kingfish]

I'll trade you Pedro for Lackey. *fingers crossed*

[NewYorkSpider]

No thanks.

[Kingfish]

Zounds. Foiled again.

[Showtime]

Brandon Lyon!

[FaT_tONle]

I sent a trade proposal to Dogder so check it out when you get a chance... getting my ass kicked in every hit category and we are already like five games into the season... gonna miss the playoffs if this keeps up.

[Jerry!]

Ok so I haven't checked on this since like right after the draft and somehow I am winning in the first week? Mercy. If I win just one week then my goal will have been accomplished.

[Kingfish]

Pierzynski is basically carrying you. I don't think anyone has worse pitching right now.

[Jerry!]

I always liked AJ. On the Sox.

[NewYorkSpider]

Spidey-Bat pretty much has me beat. I need one hell of a Sunday if I want to beat him.

[Jerry!]

Hahaha, I tied. Mercy! Wish I would have won though.

[ASESINO]

Not a bad week for a first timer.

[Jerry!]

Not bad for completely blowing it off you mean.

[ASESINO]

Perhaps

[Jerry!]

I drafted players like Juan Uribe and Jose Contreras. If that's not completely blowing it off, I don't know what is. Who are you anyway?

[ASESINO]

I'm the Butterflies. I could use an outfielder

[Superman79]

what happened to your old account Asesino??

[ASESINO]

I got banned for life with my old account, so I had to create a new one. It's cool. I learned that my believes offend some people.